I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Removing pain
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Lord, let my words
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Heal a heart that hurts
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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Hello, and welcome to
another 3ABN Family Worship.
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We are so glad
that you could join us
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as you do each day,
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but of course for the family
worships each Friday night
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we want to wish
you a happy Sabbath.
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It's hard to
believe that another week
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is already behind us, isn't it?
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I know Jill and I always
look forward to the Sabbath.
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Amen.
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I mean, I'm sure your week
has been busy just like ours
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but it's always a
blessing to receive
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the special Sabbath
blessing that God has promised
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as we keep His day holy.
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I know we enjoy
the family worship
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and we have some wonderful
friends and family here
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and we like to
always say welcome to you
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as well there at home
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or wherever you may
be tuning in to 3ABN.
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Thank you so
much for your prayers,
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your financial support,
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your faithfulness to
this ministry of 3ABN
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because it is
truly reaching souls
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around the world
and it's a blessing
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because you're part of
that just like we are here too.
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So praise God for that. Amen.
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Family worship is a
special time for Greg and I.
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We love getting
together and it's a privilege
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every Friday night
to come into your home.
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Each member of our 3ABN
family gathering together
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and coming into your home
and welcoming the Sabbath,
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opening up the Sabbath with you.
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We have a special part
of our 3ABN family here
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with us around the
table. That's right, we do.
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We want to introduce them.
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Over on our right
is Shelley and JD Quinn
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and we consider
you family and friends.
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Absolutely.
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And it's a joy to have you both.
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It's a joy to be
here. We just love you all.
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Thanks for asking us.
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So tell us-- Amen. Love Jesus.
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So tell us quickly in case
this maybe someone's first time
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to tune into 3ABN
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what part you play here
at the ministry of 3ABN so.
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Well, I'm in the
pastoral department.
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Absolutely love it.
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It's absolutely fantastic to
be able to share Jesus daily.
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Amen.
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A lot of phone
calls you receive. Amen.
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Lots of phone calls
and we certainly just pray
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that we are anointed every day
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we start every day of by
inviting the Holy Spirit.
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And we cover everyone's prayers,
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you know, because
this is a battleground.
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It is, absolutely.
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And, Shelley?
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Officially program
development manager.
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Officially.
Officially, just lots of hats.
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Yes, you do wear a lot of
hats and you guys are great team
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and great ministry
that you have here at 3ABN.
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We love it.
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We know God called us in. Amen.
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We know God called you here too.
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We are so glad.
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And on this side is a couple
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who God has definitely
called to this ministry too.
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Our friends and 3ABN family
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Pastor CA Murray
and his wife Irma.
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And we are so
glad you all are here.
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Good to be here.
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Yes, we are
very happy to be here
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especially with the four of you
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because we do feel
the same about you family.
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Amen.
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Yes, we do love
each other a lot.
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Amen. We do. Yes.
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So tell us, Pastor, I
mean like we call you Pastor CA
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but again what hats do you wear
here at the ministry of 3ABN?
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Oh, my soul.
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I tell that's a lot.
So we begin to count.
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Everybody wears many hats here.
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Yes. Yeah.
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My official title
is General Manager
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to 3ABN Proclaim dot-dot-dot.
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Producer of this program.
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Producer of other
programs and wear many hats.
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Well, wonderful preacher
and Shelley preaches too.
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Amen. Yes.
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And, Ms. Irma.
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And I wear a
few hats myself too,
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but I must mostly
work for Latino channel
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and I do productions,
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so producer and work
with marketing now also
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and answer phone calls
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which I agree with JD
that it is a privilege
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and a joy to answer the
questions in the phone calls
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that the people
give so many testimonies
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and especially when you
are supposed to you can help
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is even more of a blessing.
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Amen. Oh, absolutely.
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Amen. Yeah.
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Well, it's a blessing to
be here at Family Worship
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isn't it Friday night
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like we are talking
it's been a long week,
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you know, but it's a
blessing always to work
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for the Lord and
to see His blessings.
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And, you know, family
worship at my home growing up
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and then of course,
Jill and I we got married
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for about what
14 years or so ago.
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We started, you know,
tradition also of singing.
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So we want to
have some songs here
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for family worship as we
start but before we do that,
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you know, we should
have a word of prayer
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as we are here of
course opening the Sabbath,
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here family
worship and let's pray.
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Father in
heaven, it is a privilege
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and want to thank You for
bringing us through this week
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where we look back
and we see how You've led,
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how You've protected,
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all the blessings You
provide each one of us.
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And, Lord, it is a privilege
to open Your Sabbath with You.
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We want You always to be
number one in our lives and,
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Lord, as we talk
about the subject of love,
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Your love here this
evening for family worship.
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We just pray that Your
word will be clear to us those
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that are at home as we open
Your Holy Scriptures, Father,
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that You would draw very
near that Your Holy Spirit
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would bring to us
things that we can use
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in our own personal lives. Amen.
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We thank You for hearing
and answering our prayer,
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in Jesus' name
we pray, amen. Amen.
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What songs do we have, Sweetie?
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We have a couple
songs starting with
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"There Is
Sunshine in My Soul Today"
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and on the piano
we have Summer Boyd,
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she is playing
the piano for us today
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and we are blessed to have her.
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Let's sing this.
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There is
sunshine in my soul today
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More glorious and bright
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Than glows in any earthly sky
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For Jesus is my light
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Oh, there's
sunshine, blessed sunshine
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When the
peaceful, happy moments roll
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When Jesus
shows His smiling face
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There is sunshine in my soul
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There is music in my soul today
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A carol to my King
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And Jesus, listening, can hear
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The songs I cannot sing
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Oh, there's
sunshine, blessed sunshine
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When the
peaceful, happy moments roll
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When Jesus
shows His smiling face
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There is sunshine in my soul
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There is gladness.
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There is
gladness in my soul today
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And hope, and praise, and love
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For blessings
which He gives me now
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For joys "laid up" above
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There's the chorus. Let's go.
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Oh, there's
sunshine, blessed sunshine
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When the
peaceful, happy moments roll
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When Jesus
shows His smiling face
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There is sunshine in my soul
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Amen. Amen.
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What hope that
is saying for you,
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is there sunshine
in your soul today?
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It should be because Jesus
Christ of course is Lord of,
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Lord of all things and hopefully
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He is Lord in your life as well.
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Amen. Now we got another song.
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We do, "'Tis Love
That Makes Us Happy"
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and you might
think this is kid's song
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but I think it's a fun song
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because as we go throughout
life we need love, God's love,
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you know, to enable
us to walk through that.
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There should be
children in every one of us.
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That's right. That's true.
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'Tis love that makes us happy
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'Tis love that smoothes the way
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It helps us
mind, it makes us kind
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To others every day
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God is love, we're
His little children
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God is love, we
would be like Him
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'Tis love that makes us happy
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'Tis love that smoothes the way
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It helps us
"mind," it makes us kind
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To others every day
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This world is full of sorrow
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Of sickness, death, and sin
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With loving
heart we'll do our part
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And try some soul to win
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God is love, we're
His little children
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God is love, we
would be like Him
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'Tis love that makes us happy
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'Tis love that smoothes the way
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It helps us
"mind," it makes us kind
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To others every day
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And when this life is over
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And we are called above
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Our song shall be, eternally
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Of Jesus and His love
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God is love, we're
His little children
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God is love, we
would be like Him
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'Tis love that makes us happy
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'Tis love that smoothes the way
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It helps us
"mind," it makes us kind
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To others every day
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Amen. Amen.
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That was fun. It was fun.
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It is even thought we say
it's a kids song its still fun.
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I enjoy those kids song, right.
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Amen.
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And the message is
timeless. That's right.
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You know, whether you
are one year old or hundred,
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the message we need
to apply to our lives.
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Right. Amen.
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God is love, we are his children
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and praise God for
that that God is our Father.
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Now today our topic, we
want to call topic is on love.
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Amen. God's love.
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We're gonna look at 1
Corinthians 13 is a plan today
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so make sure you
have your Bibles out,
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pull your Bibles out.
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Maybe a notepad
and pencil and pen,
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but just want to ask
you all here as far as love.
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I mean, you hear
love tossed around a lot
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in the world and society today
like, I love, I love my cat.
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Pizza.
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Yeah. Pizza.
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Did you say
pizza? I do love pizza.
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Yeah, but the-- I mean,
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love is just throwing out
like I love this, I love that.
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You know, what you
guys think of that?
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Is that, there is such a thing
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as just loving
pizza and my cat, right?
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Well, you know,
even in the Greek
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there was a difference between
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the agape love
which is an unconditional,
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unselfish love for
someone or a person and phileo
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which is an infinity
towards something or,
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It would be like for pizza?
you know, to be affectionate.
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So, yeah, when
you say I love pizza
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that we just have one
word in the English language
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and that's love. Yeah. Yeah.
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So, you know, if you were Greek
you would say I phileo pizza.
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Okay.
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Well, pizza phileo.
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You know,
Shelley, it's so right.
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As I'm learning Spanish,
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English is such an
impoverish language.
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It is.
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Not very inflective
and we, I love my car.
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I love my cat. I love my dog.
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I love pizza. I love horses.
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I love-- you
know. I love my wife.
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Yeah, I love my life
and it's all the same.
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Whereas Greek has so much
more nuance as is Spanish.
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And you need those
slight little difference
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because when talk about agape
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it's love at the
level of commitment.
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It's unconditional.
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It is constant and it is always,
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it is the principle of
love and love and action.
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Where as phileo
sometimes you love pizza,
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sometimes you're sick of pizza.
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You know, you think, you
know, today I want pizza,
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tomorrow I don't want pizza.
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Last time we were at
your house we had pizza
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and it was
great pizza, you know.
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But at the end of the
day I was tired of pizza.
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You know, so it
comes and it goes.
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So English is so, you know,
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so broader kind of
paints it with one broad brush
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and it kind of does something
like love a real disservice.
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Absolutely.
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And the irony of it is,
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is that you can be
in a dysfunctional home
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and love pizza
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but the lessons of why
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that's you are
learning this really imparted,
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mom and dad may be
fussing all the time.
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Yeah. Good point.
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And so you grow up
on this crocked road.
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It's twisted.
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When do you say I love you
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and what does it
mean to say I love you.
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And so this is the thing
that we are trying to get into
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and I know in my own
life, boy, it was confusing
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because you are not
supposed to say I love you
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unless you truly mean it.
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But what is it?
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And now, do we get into that or
where did this love come from.
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Yeah.
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When are we
vaccinated and it starts taking
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that you really
know whenever you--
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Who do you say I love you too.
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But it is very complex
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because I think of this
language barrier that we have.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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You know, what you are
saying about the English
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and the Spanish language,
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in Spanish it's not so
common to just say I love you.
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You know, it is
used more specifically.
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You know, like
I love my husband,
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I love my children and,
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but it's becoming
a little more common
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I find now that people
would just say, I love you.
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But now I don't think
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that people are really thinking
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of that you
really loving the person
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is becoming more just
an expression or a word.
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Well, let me ask
you a quick question.
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I don't speak
Spanish, all right,
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so how would you say in Spanish,
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this is great example
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because this takes us
back into the languages.
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How would you say
that you love pizza versus
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how would you say I love CA.
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See, in the Spanish we
don't say I love pizza.
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Wow.
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What do you say? I like pizza.
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So it will be me gusta pizza
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But I can say that I like CA
but that will be just general.
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Yeah, you--
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Yeah, but, pastor,
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because there is that
step of going through courtship
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that I want you to
know that you're special
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so sometimes you
got to cross that--
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That is called love
for human beings and things
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that can love you back.
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In animate things
like pizza you are like,
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I like pizza a lot,
you know, in the context.
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You know, I like it but I
don't love pizza, just like it.
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Like valentines excuse me
in valentines for Latin America
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and I'm not sure
about other countries.
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But valentine was
for relationships.
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Love between
relationships was not,
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was not for
valentine for the children,
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your friends and no,
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but it was
especially for the couple.
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In Greek that's Eros,
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it's that kind
of a romantic love.
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But I have to say something
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that I'm saying I love
you to a lot more people
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much more frequently
than I ever have in my life
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because what God
has been showing me
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and I pray for it is that
His love is that, you know,
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love when we say what is love?
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That's the very essence when
you say agape of God's being
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and it is His, this
intent on doing good,
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doing things that
are beneficial to people
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who are unworthy.
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It is an unconditional,
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self-sacrificial desire to serve
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and it's something that I
believe that God, you know,
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especially because one
of my favorite scriptures
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become 1 Thessalonians 3:12
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where Paul is
praying and saying,
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"May God cause you to
increase and abound in love
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so that He may
perfect you in holiness."
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Well, so I'm
praying more and more, Love,
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Lord, help me to open my heart.
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Fill my heart with by
the power of Your Holy Spirit
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with Your essence
help me to love others,
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to have that same thing.
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So I'm saying
and I don't mean it
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when I say it to
someone here at work.
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I mean, I can tell
you, Greg, I love you.
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Amen.
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Love is a deliberate choice.
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It's not a feeling. I agree.
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Yeah, there is people and--
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And maybe accompanied by feeling
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but it certainly
doesn't stop with the feeling.
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Yeah. It's a feeling plus.
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And there is
someone whom I don't like
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but I love him because
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I prayed for God to
put that love in my heart.
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I don't particularly
care for the things he does,
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he is not the most
comfortable person to be around
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but I do love him and I
pray for him all the time
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so that something that
God, you know, so its like,
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it's a special
thing when you feel that.
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Love supersedes,
it supersedes like,
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I think two things that
occasions that, Shelley,
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one as you get older,
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you find out that
relationships are more precious.
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And two, the love of Christ
does as you grow in Christ.
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It does make you love more,
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so that when you
say it, you mean it.
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When you're younger,
you love, love, love,
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but as you get
older you realize that
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when that word comes out
of your mouth, it has weight,
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you know, and it has
bearing on you and the person
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that you are talking to,
so that you do say it more
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because you actually
feel it in your heart
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as Christ gives you that
love, you become this conduit,
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you know, it just
flows through you.
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I think, yeah, I
agree, Pastor CA,
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I think that's
where we want to go
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with today in our family worship
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where we are talking
because you think the song
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we just sang says, "God
is love" taken from what,
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1 John 4, "God is love, right."
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And so God, if God
is the essence of love
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that God wants us
to become like Him.
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And so that means
then we need to learn
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how to love like God loves.
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Not this phileo love,
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not this eros
love but agape love.
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You know, the type of
love that Jesus demonstrated
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that is not, we don't have
to feel it in order to give it.
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It's a principle, you
do it based off of that.
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It's the nice
thing to feel it too.
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It is a nice thing to feel it.
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That's true. Yes.
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I'm thinking in
Greg and my relationship,
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we made a commitment and
this may seem kind of strange
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but we did not say, "I
love you" to each other
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until he proposed.
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So the night he proposed,
we had just told each other,
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I mean, we felt love or
may be we just felt eros
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but whatever there was feelings.
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But Greg had said,
"I'm not gonna say,
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I love you until I
back that with a commitment.
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Until I'm ready to commit.
Until I'm ready to marry."
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And to me
that's, that's beautiful.
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You know, that's love that's
backed by that commitment.
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Yes.
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So I'm thinking here so
God is not merely loving,
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He is love, right? Right.
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There's a big difference.
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Isn't there between just God is
not merely just loving because,
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you know, okay, we know
God loves us but He is love.
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So breaking down
what God is, God is love.
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There's sometimes a hard
thing to actually grasp maybe.
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You know, and we are people
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that are calling in
every day looking for Jesus
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and how do I find Jesus.
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We got this precious
little lady right now
00:19:47.38\00:19:49.38
and this is just breaks your
heart but it's just so joyful
00:19:49.42\00:19:53.49
because you begin
to see some fruit.
00:19:53.52\00:19:57.53
She is very disappointed
in the life that she has lived
00:19:57.56\00:20:00.96
and because of all
this dysfunctionalism,
00:20:01.00\00:20:03.37
she is doing the
very best that she can do.
00:20:03.40\00:20:05.93
And so we started inviting
her into the world of Jesus
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and she doesn't even
know how to connect the dots.
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And we got a call
yesterday and it's kind of like
00:20:15.38\00:20:20.38
Joe O'Brien who is
in a pastoral staff,
00:20:20.42\00:20:22.75
he is giving her
assignments to read
00:20:22.78\00:20:26.15
and we sent her the books
and everything, Steps to Christ
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and bless her little heart,
00:20:29.16\00:20:31.39
I've read 35 pages
do I have Jesus here?
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Well.
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And so what you are
asking here how do we get Jesus?
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How do we get God?
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What is our responsibility?
00:20:42.24\00:20:44.17
Is it difficult to get Him,
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so that then we will know more
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what love is or is it a formula?
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It's a great
question? Great question it is.
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And it really starts from there
00:20:56.42\00:20:58.32
because we are sitting
here and it's easy to say.
00:20:58.35\00:21:01.32
"Jesus loves you."
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Or "God is love." "God is love."
00:21:02.79\00:21:04.63
But to
understand that in practice.
00:21:04.66\00:21:06.13
But to, and I'm learning,
I'm learning this about,
00:21:06.16\00:21:12.33
what a beautiful bush that is.
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How green.
00:21:14.47\00:21:16.00
And look at all the
leaves and you're just,
00:21:16.04\00:21:19.17
oh, I love that bush.
00:21:19.21\00:21:20.78
I could, and then you
get up and you start looking,
00:21:20.81\00:21:24.05
oh, where is the fruit.
00:21:24.08\00:21:26.41
So with God, there has to
be the production of fruit.
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So how do we get from
over here to over here
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so that we can become all that
we can be in Jesus and love.
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Amen.
00:21:40.23\00:21:42.13
You know, I'm glad that God,
the Bible said that God is love
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because there has
been times in my life
00:21:47.30\00:21:49.80
that I don't feel lovable. Yes.
00:21:49.84\00:21:53.34
You know, I said, Lord, I
want to love but I don't feel.
00:21:53.38\00:21:58.05
You know, how do I love
00:21:58.08\00:21:59.91
and I have asked Him
to give me that love.
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And so He is marvelous
when He gives you that love.
00:22:03.89\00:22:10.03
So I'm a person of feelings.
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I like to feel this, it's like
an assurance that I'm there.
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And so I asked the Lord
00:22:18.10\00:22:21.14
to make me feel that I have love
00:22:21.17\00:22:23.57
because sometimes I feel like,
00:22:23.61\00:22:25.57
you know, it's
easy to say I love you.
00:22:25.61\00:22:27.38
It is easy.
00:22:27.41\00:22:28.74
But then, so when
the love gives you that,
00:22:28.78\00:22:32.51
they use that
realizing our love is serving,
00:22:32.55\00:22:35.68
yes, you have
feelings. You start loving.
00:22:35.72\00:22:38.92
You start seeing
the beauty like JD says,
00:22:38.95\00:22:43.56
"You start seeing the beauty
not only on different things
00:22:43.59\00:22:46.29
but even on people."
00:22:46.33\00:22:47.96
Yes. Yes.
00:22:48.00\00:22:49.33
You know, something that
I want, I don't want just,
00:22:49.36\00:22:51.10
I don't just
want God's agape love.
00:22:51.13\00:22:54.40
Now let me, let me--
00:22:54.44\00:22:55.77
You better clarify that.
00:22:55.80\00:22:58.34
I want His phileo
love as well. That's good.
00:22:58.37\00:23:01.28
I want, I mean,
because God is love.
00:23:01.31\00:23:03.71
He loves unconditionally.
00:23:03.75\00:23:06.05
I mean, His,
it's so hard to say,
00:23:06.08\00:23:09.32
He is love and then He loves.
00:23:09.35\00:23:11.15
He is love which means
00:23:11.19\00:23:12.99
His intent for all beings
is for good and not for evil.
00:23:13.02\00:23:17.23
His intent for all
beings is to serve Him,
00:23:17.26\00:23:21.30
to sacrifice for them to,
00:23:21.33\00:23:23.87
I mean, this is the
definition of agape love.
00:23:23.90\00:23:28.04
But there are scriptures
00:23:28.07\00:23:30.74
that also speak
of God's phileo love.
00:23:30.77\00:23:33.81
And so I want God to have
00:23:33.84\00:23:38.28
that
affectionate feeling toward me
00:23:38.31\00:23:41.88
and not that there is
not affection in the other
00:23:41.92\00:23:43.52
but I mean, its more
phileo is based-- okay,
00:23:43.55\00:23:47.39
let me see if I can say this.
00:23:47.42\00:23:48.82
Agape is
unconditional. That's right.
00:23:48.86\00:23:50.93
Phileo is based on infinity,
00:23:50.96\00:23:53.33
a pleasure because
you are doing something
00:23:53.36\00:23:55.93
that really pleases it.
00:23:55.96\00:23:57.70
Does that make
sense? It does make sense.
00:23:57.73\00:23:59.20
Amen. Amen.
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Let's jump into
1 Corinthians 13.
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Yes.
00:24:02.34\00:24:04.24
And you think 1 Corinthians 13
00:24:04.27\00:24:06.14
comes right
after 1 Corinthians 12
00:24:06.17\00:24:07.94
and we have Bible scholars here.
00:24:07.98\00:24:09.44
1 Corinthians 12 is all about
the spiritual gifts, right,
00:24:09.48\00:24:12.21
that we are
giving to the church.
00:24:12.25\00:24:13.58
That's right.
00:24:13.62\00:24:14.95
And so it's incredible
to me because it follows.
00:24:14.98\00:24:17.35
1 Corinthians 12 and the very
next chapter goes into love.
00:24:17.39\00:24:20.66
So to me what's it saying
00:24:20.69\00:24:23.16
is that spiritual
gifts are important.
00:24:23.19\00:24:26.70
But yet if we don't have
that love for each other,
00:24:26.73\00:24:31.40
that agape love,
it means nothing.
00:24:31.43\00:24:33.80
My preaching, my teaching,
00:24:33.84\00:24:35.94
my gift of
healing, my gift of faith.
00:24:35.97\00:24:38.44
No, I'm not saying
I posses these gifts,
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I'm just saying
whatever gifts we posses,
00:24:40.21\00:24:42.88
if we don't follow that
with the 1 Corinthians 13
00:24:42.91\00:24:46.01
with the love that
God has, it means nothing.
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That's right.
00:24:49.92\00:24:51.25
So we hope that you
are turning in your Bible
00:24:51.29\00:24:53.15
there at home 1 Corinthians 13,
00:24:53.19\00:24:55.46
it's known also
as the love chapter.
00:24:55.49\00:24:57.16
Amen.
00:24:57.19\00:24:58.53
So what we want to do is kind
of go through verse by verse
00:24:58.56\00:25:00.13
and kind of break it down.
00:25:00.16\00:25:01.50
I hope you're
doing the same thing too.
00:25:01.53\00:25:02.86
Looking at these
scriptures and verses
00:25:02.90\00:25:04.33
as we go along
here this evening.
00:25:04.37\00:25:06.13
You know, and we are
gonna sort of dive in this.
00:25:06.17\00:25:08.37
Yes, pastor.
00:25:08.40\00:25:09.74
Something Shelley said
it just touched my spirit.
00:25:09.77\00:25:12.67
You want to love people so well
00:25:12.71\00:25:16.85
that they just
assume you like them.
00:25:16.88\00:25:19.21
You know, I want
to have the principle
00:25:19.25\00:25:21.52
but I also want to
have that affinity.
00:25:21.55\00:25:23.92
So I want to love you so well
00:25:23.95\00:25:25.89
that if someone says "Well,
00:25:25.92\00:25:28.09
does CA likes
Shelley?" Oh, yeah.
00:25:28.12\00:25:30.49
Look he really does.
00:25:30.53\00:25:31.93
Now in my heart
maybe something I may not
00:25:31.96\00:25:34.33
but I want to be so in tune
with what God does through me
00:25:34.36\00:25:39.97
that you just assume
00:25:40.00\00:25:41.34
because of way I relate to
you that I like you, you know.
00:25:41.37\00:25:44.77
But I also want
to genuinely like you
00:25:44.81\00:25:48.24
because that
completes the circle.
00:25:48.28\00:25:50.15
You allow me, I
got the principle,
00:25:50.18\00:25:51.91
I got the commitment
00:25:51.95\00:25:53.28
but I also got I like
being in Shelley's presence.
00:25:53.31\00:25:55.15
I like working with Shelley.
00:25:55.18\00:25:57.09
And that's, that
closes the circle for love.
00:25:57.12\00:25:59.85
You know, it's the principle
so I had to love you so much
00:25:59.89\00:26:03.36
that you don't know that I like
you or not you just assume I do
00:26:03.39\00:26:06.29
because my love is
so well demonstrated
00:26:06.33\00:26:08.96
if that makes sense. It does.
00:26:09.00\00:26:10.73
In a consistent way. Yes.
00:26:10.77\00:26:13.64
You know, I mean that is where,
00:26:13.67\00:26:15.00
that is where you
become all that you can be
00:26:15.04\00:26:18.64
because of your
consistency on looking back.
00:26:18.67\00:26:21.41
It's hard to say
walk in and say, "Hey,
00:26:21.44\00:26:23.18
I like you and I love
you and well, who are you?"
00:26:23.21\00:26:26.61
You know, if you
got time on your side
00:26:26.65\00:26:29.72
and you are
consistently being all
00:26:29.75\00:26:31.25
that you can be with the
gift that God has given you.
00:26:31.29\00:26:33.99
Yeah, and working
it out in a real world
00:26:34.02\00:26:35.42
even when I
stumble into your lane
00:26:35.46\00:26:37.56
and make a
mistake you give me a pass
00:26:37.59\00:26:40.16
'cause I know this guy.
00:26:40.20\00:26:41.53
You know, I know his
heart. I know he loves me.
00:26:41.56\00:26:43.06
Okay, today he
is having a bad day,
00:26:43.10\00:26:45.27
but I'm not gonna
hold that against him
00:26:45.30\00:26:46.63
because we love each other.
00:26:46.67\00:26:48.00
Because there are
times when we got bump up
00:26:48.04\00:26:49.37
against each other you
just know well, you can't.
00:26:49.40\00:26:51.14
But at the point
love ought to sooth that
00:26:51.17\00:26:53.21
so it doesn't
become a raw wound.
00:26:53.24\00:26:55.28
Yeah, okay, she said
something wrong but it's okay.
00:26:55.31\00:26:58.11
We know each
other, we love each other.
00:26:58.15\00:26:59.48
And what we are talking
about that's Christ like.
00:26:59.51\00:27:01.12
Precisely.
00:27:01.15\00:27:02.48
So would love be kind
of like the glue then,
00:27:02.52\00:27:04.39
it already sort of seem
like if we run these bumps
00:27:04.42\00:27:06.52
and different things
that love is sort of thing
00:27:06.55\00:27:08.66
that kind of keeps...
00:27:08.69\00:27:10.46
Holds us together.
Hold us together maybe.
00:27:10.49\00:27:12.59
I don't know, I'm just
kind of throwing that out there.
00:27:12.63\00:27:13.96
The glue, the
sap, balm in gilead,
00:27:14.00\00:27:15.83
it is all of the oil, he
answers all of the above.
00:27:15.86\00:27:18.53
Yeah, I agree. Yeah.
00:27:18.57\00:27:20.40
And you think only
God can give us that.
00:27:20.44\00:27:21.77
So I'm saying yes, so
how do we get this love
00:27:21.80\00:27:23.17
because that's
what I want. Yeah.
00:27:23.20\00:27:24.74
You know, to have
that type of love.
00:27:24.77\00:27:26.41
Only God. We are talking about.
00:27:26.44\00:27:27.78
Amen.
00:27:27.81\00:27:29.14
So we're gonna--
we'll read the scripture
00:27:29.18\00:27:30.51
and then get into that.
00:27:30.55\00:27:33.15
JD, you want to
start with this one?
00:27:33.18\00:27:34.78
Okay.
00:27:34.82\00:27:36.15
"Though I speak with the
tongues of men and of angels,
00:27:36.18\00:27:38.35
but have not love,
00:27:38.39\00:27:39.89
I have become sounding
brass or a clanging cymbal.
00:27:39.92\00:27:45.63
And though I have
the gift of prophecy,
00:27:45.66\00:27:47.50
and understand all
mysteries and all knowledge,
00:27:47.53\00:27:50.23
and though I have all faith,
00:27:50.27\00:27:52.27
so that I could
remove mountains,
00:27:52.30\00:27:54.54
but have not
love, I am nothing."
00:27:54.57\00:27:58.11
Well, that is a
lot said in two verses.
00:27:58.14\00:27:59.94
That's a whole lot to say.
00:27:59.97\00:28:02.94
It's kind of like, you
know, is it all or nothing
00:28:02.98\00:28:06.25
or can you have all
the pictures of the world
00:28:06.28\00:28:09.68
but be selfish.
00:28:09.72\00:28:11.75
Obviously that's not
Christ like so that really,
00:28:11.79\00:28:15.02
you're a beautiful bush
without any fruit on it.
00:28:15.06\00:28:19.16
You know, I think about that.
00:28:19.19\00:28:20.53
You know, when Jesus taught
00:28:20.56\00:28:21.93
and I can't place the scripture
reference at the moment
00:28:21.96\00:28:24.53
but remember when He said,
these people say, "Lord, Lord,
00:28:24.57\00:28:27.90
when have we not done
this prophesied in my name."
00:28:27.94\00:28:31.67
And we did wonderful works
and we did all these things
00:28:31.71\00:28:34.04
that what does Jesus
say, I never knew you.
00:28:34.08\00:28:37.25
So do you think this
could have some bearing on that
00:28:37.28\00:28:40.12
like here they had
knowledge in prophecy and faith
00:28:40.15\00:28:43.18
and we would think, wow,
they are good Christians.
00:28:43.22\00:28:45.22
Yes. Yes.
00:28:45.25\00:28:46.59
They have the
trappings of Christianity.
00:28:46.62\00:28:48.69
They do the right thing,
they say the right thing.
00:28:48.72\00:28:51.06
They have the right outward acts
00:28:51.09\00:28:52.43
but there is nothing inside.
00:28:52.46\00:28:55.06
You know, I went to
Chapter 12 and I read some
00:28:55.10\00:29:00.34
and it just clear to me
00:29:00.37\00:29:03.94
what God is saying in
Chapter 13 in relations to 12.
00:29:03.97\00:29:09.88
I was thinking it
says, it lists all the gifts.
00:29:09.91\00:29:14.35
Wisdom and healing and
the sermon and all of that
00:29:14.38\00:29:19.65
and he says, it
comes from the spirit.
00:29:19.69\00:29:23.53
So I was thinking if
it comes from the spirit,
00:29:23.56\00:29:26.70
isn't that automatically
that comes with the love.
00:29:26.73\00:29:30.20
But apparently not, because
if we look around us sometimes
00:29:30.23\00:29:34.10
we see that out
talents and our abilities
00:29:34.14\00:29:37.87
make us feel puffed up.
00:29:37.91\00:29:40.31
So in Chapter 13 and it says
00:29:40.34\00:29:44.65
that love is
not puffed up. Yeah.
00:29:44.68\00:29:49.28
You know, so I thought I said,
00:29:49.32\00:29:51.92
that is really
important to remember them.
00:29:51.95\00:29:55.66
What you will be
going to Matthew 7:21.
00:29:55.69\00:29:58.29
Thank you for
the reference. Yeah.
00:29:58.33\00:29:59.86
Is that, you
know, when Jesus said,
00:29:59.89\00:30:03.47
depart from me,
I never knew you,
00:30:03.50\00:30:05.23
you who practice lawlessness.
00:30:05.27\00:30:07.90
So it was more of a prideful
thing of being in ministry
00:30:07.94\00:30:11.84
and look at me aren't I special.
00:30:11.87\00:30:13.94
But they didn't
love Jesus enough to
00:30:13.98\00:30:17.28
what He say in John
14:15 "If you love Me,
00:30:17.31\00:30:19.61
keep My commandments."
00:30:19.65\00:30:21.18
So they weren't and what
is His greatest commandment?
00:30:21.22\00:30:25.35
Mark 12:30, "Love the
Lord with all your heart,
00:30:25.39\00:30:27.62
soul, mind, and strength, "
00:30:27.66\00:30:28.99
and love your
neighbor as yourself.
00:30:29.02\00:30:30.66
So there are people
and I'm not gonna just,
00:30:30.69\00:30:33.33
I mean, I'm not
pointing a finger.
00:30:33.36\00:30:34.70
I think anybody in
ministry has to be careful
00:30:34.73\00:30:38.63
that we don't get
so involved in ministry
00:30:38.67\00:30:43.54
that we forget the
most important thing is
00:30:43.57\00:30:45.97
our relationship with Christ
00:30:46.01\00:30:47.38
because you can become
overwhelmed with doing good
00:30:47.41\00:30:51.45
and not do the best.
00:30:51.48\00:30:52.81
Yes. Yes. Yeah.
00:30:52.85\00:30:54.48
And so that's the difference
we are having the talents
00:30:54.52\00:30:58.85
and the gifts from the
spirit but once it gets,
00:30:58.89\00:31:03.99
given to you and
then you use this,
00:31:04.03\00:31:06.36
we get on pride
that love is missing
00:31:06.39\00:31:09.83
and that's why God said,
00:31:09.86\00:31:12.17
if you, the love
is more important
00:31:12.20\00:31:14.64
because the
love will make you do
00:31:14.67\00:31:18.37
and act upon the
gifts that God is giving you
00:31:18.41\00:31:23.65
with humbleness. Amen.
00:31:23.68\00:31:25.08
So what type of
love is this talking
00:31:25.11\00:31:26.58
about here then
in verse 1 and 2?
00:31:26.61\00:31:28.38
It says, if you are like okay,
00:31:28.42\00:31:30.09
"Sounding brass
or a tinkling cymbal
00:31:30.12\00:31:31.99
and I have the gift of prophesy
and understand all mysteries,
00:31:32.02\00:31:34.02
and all knowledge,
and have all faith,
00:31:34.06\00:31:35.82
like remove
mountains, and have not love,
00:31:35.86\00:31:38.33
I am nothing."
00:31:38.36\00:31:39.73
So what type of love
are we talking about?
00:31:39.76\00:31:41.10
We are talking
about the agape love.
00:31:41.13\00:31:42.46
It is agape here. Yeah.
00:31:42.50\00:31:44.00
It is that love and agape
love is demonstrated first
00:31:44.03\00:31:51.47
in our love
toward God. That's right.
00:31:51.51\00:31:53.48
I mean, and it is in that.
00:31:53.51\00:31:55.64
I mean, when we
understand the Bible says,
00:31:55.68\00:31:57.51
we love Him
because He first loved us.
00:31:57.55\00:32:00.02
But when we understand that
we are not worthy of this love.
00:32:00.05\00:32:03.62
You know, it's like you said,
00:32:03.65\00:32:05.02
how often do we
not feel loveable,
00:32:05.05\00:32:07.89
but that doesn't
stop God's agape love.
00:32:07.92\00:32:10.49
And there is
somebody that's watching today
00:32:10.53\00:32:12.16
that needs to know that,
00:32:12.19\00:32:13.56
you don't have to be
lovable for God to love you.
00:32:13.60\00:32:15.70
That's right.
00:32:15.73\00:32:17.07
I mean, He loves
you in your mess.
00:32:17.10\00:32:18.43
And He loves you enough not
to leave you in your mess too.
00:32:18.47\00:32:20.34
When you come to Him,
He helps bring you out.
00:32:20.37\00:32:23.04
But--
00:32:23.07\00:32:24.41
When we say the agape love,
we are talking unconditional.
00:32:24.44\00:32:26.41
Unconditional,
self-sacrificing love.
00:32:26.44\00:32:30.45
Which we realize the
Father has given to us,
00:32:30.48\00:32:32.55
Christ has given
that too as well.
00:32:32.58\00:32:33.92
But right here this isn't
talking about necessarily God,
00:32:33.95\00:32:36.72
this is talking about
us having that agape love.
00:32:36.75\00:32:39.09
Absolutely, it is.
00:32:39.12\00:32:40.46
The unconditional love
which that comes when we need.
00:32:40.49\00:32:42.06
I think what
Shelley is moving to is
00:32:42.09\00:32:45.23
before you can
really show that to others,
00:32:45.26\00:32:46.70
you got to accept the
fact that God loves you.
00:32:46.73\00:32:48.40
Amen. Absolutely.
00:32:48.43\00:32:49.76
So you don't have to get right,
00:32:49.80\00:32:51.13
you don't have
to-- or take a bath.
00:32:51.17\00:32:52.50
You know, you just have
to be, just have to come.
00:32:52.53\00:32:55.97
And when you do that,
then God does the rest.
00:32:56.00\00:32:59.34
And then as that
love moves with you,
00:32:59.37\00:33:02.78
to you, for you, through you,
00:33:02.81\00:33:04.25
you cannot help
but share to others.
00:33:04.28\00:33:05.81
So you become, you
become a loving person.
00:33:05.85\00:33:07.88
Yeah.
00:33:07.92\00:33:09.25
I think the text
that she talked about
00:33:09.28\00:33:11.22
when we have these gifts
00:33:11.25\00:33:13.46
and the gifts of God or
without repent, repentance,
00:33:13.49\00:33:15.42
God, there're
people who just have gifts.
00:33:15.46\00:33:17.56
That's right. Yes.
00:33:17.59\00:33:18.93
Now, you get and I
use the term points
00:33:18.96\00:33:22.10
with how you use that gift.
00:33:22.13\00:33:23.90
Because you can use
that gift for self vainglory
00:33:23.93\00:33:28.60
or you can humbly
surrender that to God
00:33:28.64\00:33:30.41
and God will work
through you to do that.
00:33:30.44\00:33:32.27
Amen.
00:33:32.31\00:33:34.48
To do other than that,
00:33:34.51\00:33:36.01
to use those gifts for
yourself is lawlessness
00:33:36.04\00:33:38.31
and the word there it's
anomia that's the word for sin.
00:33:38.35\00:33:41.75
Yeah, so you are
taking God's gift
00:33:41.78\00:33:45.22
and you are not
giving God the glory.
00:33:45.25\00:33:46.59
That's sin. Yeah, that's sin.
00:33:46.62\00:33:48.72
That takes you away from God.
00:33:48.76\00:33:50.86
So you know,
00:33:50.89\00:33:52.23
when Paul is talking
at the Corinth church,
00:33:52.26\00:33:53.66
he is talking to a
Corinth church in turmoil.
00:33:53.70\00:33:55.60
You got to read
the context within,
00:33:55.63\00:33:57.37
the letter to
Corinth as a church
00:33:57.40\00:33:58.73
where people are doing
all kind of crazy stuff.
00:33:58.77\00:34:00.87
They are doing stuff, the right
stuff for the wrong reason.
00:34:00.90\00:34:03.30
There is a lot of pride there.
00:34:03.34\00:34:04.67
There is a lot
of legalism there.
00:34:04.71\00:34:06.04
And it's outright
rank-- Lot of cultures.
00:34:06.07\00:34:08.08
Precisely.
00:34:08.11\00:34:09.44
Outright sin,
00:34:09.48\00:34:11.78
license to sin in that church.
00:34:11.81\00:34:13.38
So Paul is trying to
straighten some stuff up.
00:34:13.42\00:34:15.28
So he says, yeah, I
know there's gifts here,
00:34:15.32\00:34:18.02
but if you are not using those
gifts for the glory of God,
00:34:18.05\00:34:20.96
then not only are
you in the wrong path,
00:34:20.99\00:34:23.36
you are sinning.
00:34:23.39\00:34:24.73
You are working against God.
00:34:24.76\00:34:26.09
So the thing that
undergirds all those gifts
00:34:26.13\00:34:28.06
is God to be love.
00:34:28.10\00:34:29.43
If you sing, love
and sing for Jesus.
00:34:29.46\00:34:31.20
If you preach,
preach in and for Jesus.
00:34:31.23\00:34:33.90
Let love be the motivation
for everything that you do.
00:34:33.94\00:34:36.27
Yes. Yes.
00:34:36.30\00:34:37.64
You know, I don't care
how loud you beat the cymbal,
00:34:37.67\00:34:40.14
you rang the bell...
00:34:40.18\00:34:41.81
Yeah, doesn't matter, does it?
00:34:41.84\00:34:43.18
That doesn't
make any indifference.
00:34:43.21\00:34:44.55
You can have the
loudest talented voice there is
00:34:44.58\00:34:47.88
but if it's for the
wrong reason, you know.
00:34:47.92\00:34:49.48
Yeah, you may
get a lot of noise.
00:34:49.52\00:34:50.89
Amen. Yeah.
00:34:50.92\00:34:52.25
You want to
continue on, Shelley?
00:34:52.29\00:34:53.62
Sure.
00:34:53.66\00:34:54.99
"And though I bestow all
my goods to feed the poor,
00:34:55.02\00:34:56.96
and though I give
my body to be burned,
00:34:56.99\00:34:58.93
but have not love,
it profits me nothing.
00:34:58.96\00:35:02.56
Love suffers long and is
kind, love does not envy,
00:35:02.60\00:35:06.70
love does not parade
itself, it is not puffed up,
00:35:06.74\00:35:10.04
does not behave
rudely, does not seek its own,
00:35:10.07\00:35:14.61
it is not
provoked, thinks no evil,
00:35:14.64\00:35:17.35
does not rejoice in iniquity,
but rejoices in the truth,
00:35:17.38\00:35:20.85
bears all things,
believes all things,
00:35:20.88\00:35:23.28
hopes all things,
and endures all things."
00:35:23.32\00:35:26.96
Amen. Amen.
00:35:26.99\00:35:28.39
You know, verses 4 through 8,
00:35:28.42\00:35:29.76
that's my favorite
part of that chapter.
00:35:29.79\00:35:31.59
It's heavy.
00:35:31.63\00:35:32.96
You know, I took a
couple of different times,
00:35:32.99\00:35:35.90
I took a day for
each one of these.
00:35:35.93\00:35:40.64
And so I would
pray in the morning,
00:35:40.67\00:35:42.00
"love suffers long."
00:35:42.04\00:35:43.37
So that morning I pray and say,
"Come, give me Your kindness.
00:35:43.41\00:35:46.88
Give me Your patience.
00:35:46.91\00:35:48.34
Give me Your, you know,
if someone comes against me
00:35:48.38\00:35:50.75
or if something
happens or whatever God I want,
00:35:50.78\00:35:52.75
today I want to suffer long."
00:35:52.78\00:35:54.72
And something
would happen that day
00:35:54.75\00:35:57.09
and then God
would show me my heart.
00:35:57.12\00:35:59.39
And that rub we were
talking about kind of comes in
00:35:59.42\00:36:02.12
and God says, Jill, I
want to pour My love in.
00:36:02.16\00:36:04.59
You know, there is
some need for that there.
00:36:04.63\00:36:06.33
I like this passage.
00:36:06.36\00:36:07.70
To me there is eight
attitudes fall into love.
00:36:07.73\00:36:10.43
If you look at the
negatives, you know,
00:36:10.47\00:36:11.87
do not, do not, do
not, there's eight of them.
00:36:11.90\00:36:14.80
And there are seven
characteristics of love
00:36:14.84\00:36:17.51
that are mentioned in there.
00:36:17.54\00:36:19.91
To me what you said
something to me that
00:36:19.94\00:36:24.08
that certainly
caught my attention is
00:36:24.11\00:36:25.75
whenever you are
concerning to follow His will
00:36:25.78\00:36:30.25
and you are
giving Him permission,
00:36:30.29\00:36:31.72
you are asking Him
so that's part of that,
00:36:31.75\00:36:35.62
how do we, how do we get
God in, I mean is it merely.
00:36:35.66\00:36:38.66
Can we just say, God,
00:36:38.69\00:36:41.36
I give You
permission to work in my life.
00:36:41.40\00:36:43.26
Amen.
00:36:43.30\00:36:44.63
At the start?
00:36:44.67\00:36:46.00
It is at start
because we believe
00:36:46.03\00:36:47.37
that people with talents here
00:36:47.40\00:36:49.27
that are doing it
for the wrong reasons.
00:36:49.30\00:36:51.27
Right.
00:36:51.31\00:36:52.64
So now I've done it
for the wrong reason.
00:36:52.67\00:36:55.51
And what do I do, Lord,
so that I can get on path.
00:36:55.54\00:36:58.41
I'm finding out who You are.
00:36:58.45\00:37:00.48
I love all
these characteristics.
00:37:00.52\00:37:05.02
Do I merely say,
"Jesus, help me."
00:37:05.05\00:37:06.76
Can I make a different
point for just a second?
00:37:09.86\00:37:11.49
Yes. You can.
00:37:11.53\00:37:12.86
As you said, verses 4
through 7 are your favorites
00:37:12.89\00:37:15.90
and the reason I read
off all those verses is
00:37:15.93\00:37:18.57
because that is
a single sentence.
00:37:18.60\00:37:20.80
This is, Paul is
defining love here.
00:37:20.84\00:37:24.24
I want to read it real
quickly from the Living Bible.
00:37:24.27\00:37:26.68
Okay.
00:37:26.71\00:37:28.04
"Love is very patient and
kind, never jealous or envious,
00:37:28.08\00:37:30.18
never boastful or proud,
00:37:30.21\00:37:31.55
never haughty
or selfish or rude.
00:37:31.58\00:37:33.31
Love does not
demand its own way.
00:37:33.35\00:37:35.42
It is not irritable or touchy.
00:37:35.45\00:37:37.92
It does not hold grudges
and will hardly even notice
00:37:37.95\00:37:40.76
when others do it wrong.
00:37:40.79\00:37:42.56
It is never
glad about injustice,
00:37:42.59\00:37:44.83
but rejoices
whenever truth wins out.
00:37:44.86\00:37:47.73
If you love someone,
00:37:47.76\00:37:49.10
you will be loyal to
him no matter what the cost.
00:37:49.13\00:37:50.77
You will always believe in him,
always expect the best of him,
00:37:50.80\00:37:54.77
and always stand your
ground in defending him."
00:37:54.80\00:37:58.51
So my question to you, Jill,
00:37:58.54\00:38:00.71
you said there are eight
characteristics in a negative
00:38:00.74\00:38:03.85
that says this
is what love is not,
00:38:03.88\00:38:05.68
there're seven, this
is the single sentence.
00:38:05.71\00:38:09.52
So my question is if
we are kind impatient
00:38:09.55\00:38:15.29
but we keep a record of
wrongs we are not being loving.
00:38:15.32\00:38:19.79
I mean, if-- Now, that's true.
00:38:19.83\00:38:21.16
I mean, if all eight, you know,
we might be getting somewhere.
00:38:21.20\00:38:25.67
I love the fact that
you studied these out
00:38:25.70\00:38:27.54
and prayed to each one.
00:38:27.57\00:38:29.14
We might be getting somewhere
00:38:29.17\00:38:30.51
because you asked us to
come up with examples of
00:38:30.54\00:38:34.18
when somebody has shown us
God's love as defined by this
00:38:34.21\00:38:38.61
that put me in a tailspin.
00:38:38.65\00:38:40.98
We had a hard time too.
00:38:41.02\00:38:44.02
Well, and I told JD
the only true example
00:38:44.05\00:38:46.29
I can think of is,
00:38:46.32\00:38:47.92
praise the Lord our
marriage is like this.
00:38:47.96\00:38:49.79
I mean, I can say that we
are exhibiting all of this
00:38:49.82\00:38:52.79
in our marriage, in
this love that we share
00:38:52.83\00:38:55.83
but even looking back, you know,
00:38:55.86\00:38:58.23
I had to
remember Isaiah 43:18, 19
00:38:58.27\00:39:01.70
because you
mentioned this last night,
00:39:01.74\00:39:03.14
I just kind of briefly looked
at it before we went to bed
00:39:03.17\00:39:07.51
and I couldn't get to sleep.
00:39:07.54\00:39:10.11
I kept thinking, nobody
has ever loved me like this.
00:39:10.15\00:39:13.01
Have I ever loved
anybody like this?
00:39:13.05\00:39:17.45
It's-- in Isaiah
43:18, 19 when God says,
00:39:17.49\00:39:21.22
when painful things come
up, I always think about this.
00:39:21.26\00:39:23.93
He says, do not
dwell on the past.
00:39:23.96\00:39:26.26
I'm doing a new thing,
now it springs forth suddenly.
00:39:26.29\00:39:30.07
Because dwelling in the past
00:39:30.10\00:39:31.67
even when you have
dealt with pain and sorrow
00:39:31.70\00:39:35.37
sometimes that can
kind of, it's like,
00:39:35.40\00:39:37.84
it's rubbing you
the wrong way again
00:39:37.87\00:39:39.61
and it's opening up
the wound or something.
00:39:39.64\00:39:41.94
But do you feel like
we are really being loving
00:39:41.98\00:39:46.92
if we don't combine all
seven of these characteristics?
00:39:46.95\00:39:50.89
No, I don't think so.
00:39:50.92\00:39:52.25
I mean, I think that God
wants to work all of that in us
00:39:52.29\00:39:56.42
and going back reminding
that what JD had mentioned.
00:39:56.46\00:40:00.23
I agree because
we can read this,
00:40:00.26\00:40:02.83
but then how do
I internalize it.
00:40:02.86\00:40:04.90
You know, so you at home
00:40:04.93\00:40:06.27
could be saying,
"Well, that's great.
00:40:06.30\00:40:07.64
That sounds wonderful.
00:40:07.67\00:40:09.00
Nobody has ever
loved me like that
00:40:09.04\00:40:10.44
and I for sure don't know
how to love anybody like that.
00:40:10.47\00:40:13.11
You know, I don't know
how to get this in my heart
00:40:13.14\00:40:15.51
and how to walk this out.
00:40:15.54\00:40:17.45
You know, how
to put on the boots
00:40:17.48\00:40:19.11
and start walking in real life,
00:40:19.15\00:40:20.92
like how do I get
God's love inside of me.
00:40:20.95\00:40:24.32
Because it could
be extra discouraging
00:40:24.35\00:40:25.75
look at this and say,
"Man, I know me personally.
00:40:25.79\00:40:27.92
I mean, I'm
failing this every day.
00:40:27.96\00:40:29.29
Like well..."
00:40:29.32\00:40:30.66
I've got the answer teacher.
00:40:30.69\00:40:33.23
To me Romans 5:5.
00:40:33.26\00:40:35.53
Okay, well, let's
turn to Romans 5:5
00:40:35.56\00:40:37.13
because someone
heart is in the same thing.
00:40:37.17\00:40:38.93
Like well this is,
this is beyond me so let's--
00:40:38.97\00:40:41.87
I was so excited
the very first time.
00:40:41.90\00:40:44.51
Romans 5:5. I
found this scripture.
00:40:44.54\00:40:46.71
I was just
doing a little bounce.
00:40:46.74\00:40:49.78
I can't find--
00:40:49.81\00:40:52.58
my page is there.
00:40:52.61\00:40:54.35
We go, Romans 5:5 says this.
00:40:54.38\00:40:57.02
Yeah, read it,
Irma, that's good.
00:40:57.05\00:40:58.45
Okay.
00:40:58.49\00:40:59.82
"Now hope does not disappoint,
because the love of God
00:40:59.85\00:41:03.73
has been poured
out in our hearts
00:41:03.76\00:41:06.29
by the Holy Spirit
who was given to us."
00:41:06.33\00:41:09.63
Shelley, read that from your
because the Living sometimes--
00:41:09.66\00:41:13.23
I don't have the Living, I
just looked that for the one.
00:41:13.27\00:41:15.44
Only for the one, okay. Yeah.
00:41:15.47\00:41:16.81
But here is what
I will say on now
00:41:16.84\00:41:19.54
when I first
read that it was like,
00:41:19.57\00:41:21.71
because I want to be like God.
00:41:21.74\00:41:24.31
God is love.
00:41:24.35\00:41:25.68
If the essence,
His divine essence,
00:41:25.71\00:41:27.75
His divine nature is love,
00:41:27.78\00:41:29.55
the only way that
can get into my heart
00:41:29.58\00:41:31.35
is when I go to
the Lord and I say,
00:41:31.39\00:41:33.79
"Father, help me
to open my heart.
00:41:33.82\00:41:37.59
Let me receive Your Holy Spirit.
00:41:37.63\00:41:39.46
And the spirit is
the spirit of love,
00:41:39.49\00:41:41.70
is the essence of God."
00:41:41.73\00:41:43.30
So as the Holy Spirit
is operating in our heart,
00:41:43.33\00:41:46.94
this is where
this love comes from.
00:41:46.97\00:41:49.44
And then if you tie this,
I cannot do this scripture
00:41:49.47\00:41:53.51
without mentioning
1 Thessalonians 3:12.
00:41:53.54\00:41:57.45
Let's turn here because--
00:41:57.48\00:41:58.81
Yeah, let's just look because--
00:41:58.85\00:42:00.72
This is where the
rubber meets the road for most.
00:42:00.75\00:42:02.68
Yeah, I know for me too.
00:42:02.72\00:42:04.25
And I think we
want to start in 11.
00:42:04.29\00:42:07.79
1 Thessalonians 3
00:42:07.82\00:42:11.16
and I'm going to
begin with verse--
00:42:11.19\00:42:15.23
What version are you reading?
00:42:15.26\00:42:16.60
I'm reading New
King James Version.
00:42:16.63\00:42:19.13
No, we begin
with verse 12 and 13.
00:42:19.17\00:42:20.64
Okay, let's read.
Here' what Paul says.
00:42:20.67\00:42:23.71
"May the Lord make you"
so who is doing the action?
00:42:23.74\00:42:27.58
God. God is doing the action.
00:42:27.61\00:42:29.71
"May the Lord make you
increase and abound in" what?
00:42:29.74\00:42:33.72
"Love to one another and to all,
00:42:33.75\00:42:36.38
just as we do to you."
00:42:36.42\00:42:37.75
So this God's work
in us. That's right.
00:42:37.79\00:42:40.26
We can't force
that type of love in us.
00:42:40.29\00:42:43.02
It says the Holy Spirit
00:42:43.06\00:42:44.39
is filling our
hearts with his love
00:42:44.43\00:42:46.80
but then look at this.
00:42:46.83\00:42:48.73
Why is Paul praying this?
00:42:48.76\00:42:51.53
"So that" in order that "He" God
00:42:51.57\00:42:55.40
"may establish your
hearts blameless in holiness
00:42:55.44\00:42:58.17
before our God and Father
00:42:58.21\00:42:59.54
at the coming of
our Lord Jesus Christ
00:42:59.57\00:43:01.08
with all His saints."
00:43:01.11\00:43:02.48
So what he is saying
is this is God's job,
00:43:02.51\00:43:05.45
but as we grow in
love, we grow in holiness.
00:43:05.48\00:43:08.68
We become more like
Him. That's beautiful.
00:43:08.72\00:43:11.65
Irma, you're
gonna say something.
00:43:11.69\00:43:13.02
I was telling that I have, I
have read that over and over,
00:43:13.05\00:43:17.99
you know, about the character--
00:43:18.03\00:43:19.49
1 Corinthians, is that you mean?
00:43:19.53\00:43:20.86
No, the
characteristics of having love
00:43:20.90\00:43:24.57
and then it dawned to me
00:43:24.60\00:43:28.20
that is just
what the enemy does.
00:43:28.24\00:43:31.24
Just love what he says,
00:43:31.27\00:43:32.61
you cannot keep
the Ten Commandments.
00:43:32.64\00:43:34.94
When we read these, you
know, to love without envy,
00:43:34.98\00:43:39.08
without grudging,
without all those things
00:43:39.11\00:43:41.68
that thus does our
very human tendencies.
00:43:41.72\00:43:47.09
Very human
tendencies that we can say
00:43:47.12\00:43:51.36
that we put them aside,
but deep inside they are not.
00:43:51.39\00:43:56.00
They, because they
creep out and come.
00:43:56.03\00:43:59.40
And so it's what we
need to do to understand
00:43:59.43\00:44:05.64
that the enemy will
bring this stuff to you
00:44:05.67\00:44:09.24
because he doesn't want
you to have the love of Christ.
00:44:09.28\00:44:12.11
But the love of Christ
is surrendering to him.
00:44:12.15\00:44:17.39
He will put and
clean that out of us
00:44:17.42\00:44:21.22
and little by
little you start realizing
00:44:21.26\00:44:23.56
that I'm doing a
little better than before.
00:44:23.59\00:44:27.63
God really loves me
00:44:27.66\00:44:29.20
because He is able to
help me out with these.
00:44:29.23\00:44:32.17
I don't have to
think that this is,
00:44:32.20\00:44:35.04
I can memorize
them all and I said,
00:44:35.07\00:44:38.17
now that I have Him in
my head, you know, I can do
00:44:38.21\00:44:40.11
because I'm gonna
remember what to do,
00:44:40.14\00:44:42.38
you know, but that's just doing.
00:44:42.41\00:44:44.48
That is not having
the love of Christ in you.
00:44:44.51\00:44:48.72
Yeah, it could be as
simple as, Jesus, help me.
00:44:48.75\00:44:51.59
You know my heart. Precisely.
00:44:51.62\00:44:53.56
Yes. I agree with that.
00:44:53.59\00:44:55.66
I just need some help.
00:44:55.69\00:44:57.59
Well, I think just being
real with God just saying,
00:44:57.63\00:45:00.00
Lord, I'm having
envious right now.
00:45:00.03\00:45:02.36
Right now, this person is just--
00:45:02.40\00:45:04.40
Yeah, I'm not
having that type of love
00:45:04.43\00:45:05.93
that you want and
just being real with God.
00:45:05.97\00:45:07.37
He knows anyway.
00:45:07.40\00:45:08.74
So it's not like I'm keeping
a secret from Him and God,
00:45:08.77\00:45:10.21
please help me, I'm
having trouble right now.
00:45:10.24\00:45:12.77
I think it's part of
the sanctification process.
00:45:12.81\00:45:15.64
I mean, this is like,
00:45:15.68\00:45:17.91
I don't think we
just become Christians
00:45:17.95\00:45:19.61
and we go, hey.
00:45:19.65\00:45:20.98
Hey, I got love.
00:45:21.02\00:45:22.95
You know, I'm
perfect in the way I love.
00:45:22.98\00:45:24.75
I know. I know. I think we grow.
00:45:24.79\00:45:26.92
It's, you know, add
to your kindness virtue,
00:45:26.96\00:45:29.52
add to this.
00:45:29.56\00:45:30.89
I mean, it's a growing process.
00:45:30.93\00:45:33.93
Ask everyday by day
00:45:33.96\00:45:35.36
because today you
may master let's say bad
00:45:35.40\00:45:40.04
and then
tomorrow something comes
00:45:40.07\00:45:42.14
and what
happens we're right back
00:45:42.17\00:45:43.71
to where we start in.
00:45:43.74\00:45:45.97
I would like to think
that we're a work in progress.
00:45:46.01\00:45:48.18
Absolutely. Yes.
00:45:48.21\00:45:49.54
As long as we
continue to go back,
00:45:49.58\00:45:52.85
I need to be
nourished today, Lord,
00:45:52.88\00:45:56.32
and that's asking
for divine appointment.
00:45:56.35\00:45:58.85
He is gonna say that
you get that what you need
00:45:58.89\00:46:02.32
to help you get
over that speed bump.
00:46:02.36\00:46:03.73
Amen.
00:46:03.76\00:46:05.09
That's the beautiful thing I
think because it's a process.
00:46:05.13\00:46:07.86
You know, every day
we discover God and say,
00:46:07.90\00:46:09.60
here's my heart, take
it, for I can't even give it.
00:46:09.63\00:46:12.47
And, God, work
out pour Your love
00:46:12.50\00:46:14.84
by the power of Your
Holy Spirit into my heart
00:46:14.87\00:46:17.24
and everyday I think
God just shows us our hearts
00:46:17.27\00:46:19.71
a little bit
more like, oh, Jill,
00:46:19.74\00:46:21.41
there is
something going on here.
00:46:21.44\00:46:22.98
Oh, I want to surrender
that when He shows us, you know.
00:46:23.01\00:46:26.35
The next day, oh, there
are some notes over here
00:46:26.38\00:46:28.52
and that's a good thing
00:46:28.55\00:46:29.88
because God is
working in our hearts
00:46:29.92\00:46:31.35
to show us our hearts.
00:46:31.39\00:46:32.72
You know, you mentioned
fruit a couple of time,
00:46:32.75\00:46:34.72
make this quick comment.
00:46:34.76\00:46:36.09
You mentioned
fruit a couple of times,
00:46:36.12\00:46:38.16
well, there is
always root to the fruit.
00:46:38.19\00:46:41.60
So if you're rooted and grounded
00:46:41.63\00:46:43.43
in the love of Christ
but bearing good fruit,
00:46:43.47\00:46:46.17
but a lot of what the actions
00:46:46.20\00:46:50.17
that we've seen in
our lives have roots
00:46:50.21\00:46:53.44
that were in not so good soil.
00:46:53.48\00:46:55.51
I mean, for example
00:46:55.54\00:46:57.31
when it says
love is not puffed up,
00:46:57.35\00:46:59.05
that doesn't necessarily
mean you're being vainglorious.
00:46:59.08\00:47:01.75
Puffed up love can be,
00:47:01.78\00:47:03.99
you're trying to
compete with somebody,
00:47:04.02\00:47:06.45
you know, like you, I
mean that's puffed up love
00:47:06.49\00:47:09.16
is that spirit of
competition that you--
00:47:09.19\00:47:12.03
How come him and not me.
I've got as many talents here.
00:47:12.06\00:47:14.63
So but where is
the root of that?
00:47:14.66\00:47:17.63
That goes back to something
that probably as a child,
00:47:17.67\00:47:21.57
you know someone did not,
00:47:21.60\00:47:23.81
you didn't feel
affirmed or something.
00:47:23.84\00:47:26.68
So this is
something as you said,
00:47:26.71\00:47:29.31
it's a day by day growth process
00:47:29.34\00:47:31.05
that we have to,
God helps us pull out
00:47:31.08\00:47:34.88
and curse at the
root those old things.
00:47:34.92\00:47:39.02
Well said. You can be proud
of your humility, you know.
00:47:39.05\00:47:42.99
I want to be
part of your humility.
00:47:43.02\00:47:45.83
You know, just
looking at this text
00:47:45.86\00:47:47.90
just before the one
where Jill sort of lock down.
00:47:47.93\00:47:50.43
Paul says, though, I
give my body to be burned.
00:47:50.47\00:47:52.73
You know, and he starts
out with that as the foundation
00:47:52.77\00:47:56.30
for all of those
things that come beyond.
00:47:56.34\00:47:58.14
It's interesting
that he put that in it
00:47:58.17\00:47:59.61
because burning of a
body is form of punishment
00:47:59.64\00:48:02.11
was pretty much
unknown in this time.
00:48:02.14\00:48:04.61
For criminals you got
three basic forms of punishment.
00:48:04.65\00:48:08.25
You had crucifixion,
you had, for soldier
00:48:08.28\00:48:12.09
they just took a sword
and just took his head off.
00:48:12.12\00:48:14.09
Was neat, quick
and painless, you know,
00:48:14.12\00:48:15.82
and it was
considered a good institution.
00:48:15.86\00:48:17.63
Of course, and Hebrews stoned.
00:48:17.66\00:48:19.69
But the idea of burning a
body that was not dead was not,
00:48:19.73\00:48:23.63
that's not even
in their thinking.
00:48:23.67\00:48:25.97
So Paul is taking
something that's alien to them
00:48:26.00\00:48:28.20
and is the most
grose thing to them.
00:48:28.24\00:48:30.11
This is really
negative to their and he says
00:48:30.14\00:48:33.07
even if I do that, it
doesn't do me any good.
00:48:33.11\00:48:36.28
You know, it's
nothing, it doesn't do good.
00:48:36.31\00:48:38.45
Then he gives
these negative things
00:48:38.48\00:48:40.55
to stay away from before
he begins to build back up.
00:48:40.58\00:48:43.12
So he is taking you to a place
00:48:43.15\00:48:44.49
that your mind can't
even wrap itself around.
00:48:44.52\00:48:47.32
Even if I do that,
it means nothing to God.
00:48:47.36\00:48:50.09
That's nothing
00:48:50.13\00:48:51.46
unless my actions are
motivated by love for Him.
00:48:51.49\00:48:54.26
Amen.
00:48:54.30\00:48:55.63
You know, when
I read that to me,
00:48:55.66\00:48:57.00
that was really deep for
me because how will you go
00:48:57.03\00:49:03.41
and offer your
body to be burned.
00:49:03.44\00:49:07.08
It has to be--
00:49:07.11\00:49:08.44
Certainly it
was for a sacrifice,
00:49:08.48\00:49:09.81
this is what my
assumption was there
00:49:09.84\00:49:11.35
is that he was saying, you know,
00:49:11.38\00:49:12.71
because they did
offer sacrifices to,
00:49:12.75\00:49:16.22
not to true God but gods.
00:49:16.25\00:49:18.02
But not living things.
00:49:18.05\00:49:20.26
Either
punishment or self-sacrifice
00:49:20.29\00:49:22.16
they wouldn't do that.
00:49:22.19\00:49:23.53
They would do
that to living things.
00:49:23.56\00:49:24.89
They hadn't been dead
before you would burn it.
00:49:24.93\00:49:26.29
So he is saying
even if I did that as a--
00:49:26.33\00:49:29.10
just threw myself on it, was
just totally incomprehensible.
00:49:29.13\00:49:32.20
It doesn't do anything
00:49:32.23\00:49:33.57
because there is no
love that's driving it.
00:49:33.60\00:49:35.94
Because so obviously
we can do things like that
00:49:35.97\00:49:39.64
and think that we are
doing something really great
00:49:39.67\00:49:43.41
but I don't remember
there is another passage
00:49:43.45\00:49:47.22
where it says that
whatever good things we do,
00:49:47.25\00:49:52.02
if they don't come
from God, they are no good.
00:49:52.05\00:49:56.69
You know, they
are like dirty rags.
00:49:56.73\00:49:59.79
So we can do a
lot of good things
00:49:59.83\00:50:03.26
to make us feel good.
00:50:03.30\00:50:05.93
Okay, we want to just go
ahead and go with your say?
00:50:05.97\00:50:08.94
Yeah, we got to
get through this.
00:50:08.97\00:50:10.37
Get away from the set.
00:50:10.41\00:50:11.97
I have a Kings James
Version what's you're reading?
00:50:12.01\00:50:13.88
Yeah. "Love
never fails," verse 18.
00:50:13.91\00:50:16.44
Verse 8 of 13.
00:50:16.48\00:50:17.81
"But whether
there are prophecies,
00:50:17.85\00:50:19.21
they will fail,
00:50:19.25\00:50:20.58
whether there are
tongues, they will cease,
00:50:20.62\00:50:23.12
whether there is
knowledge, it will vanish away.
00:50:23.15\00:50:26.15
For we know in part
and we prophesy in part.
00:50:26.19\00:50:29.06
But when that which
is perfect has come,
00:50:29.09\00:50:31.59
then that which is in
part will be done away."
00:50:31.63\00:50:34.60
Amen. Amen.
00:50:34.63\00:50:37.57
This is a packed,
packed chapter that's for sure.
00:50:37.60\00:50:41.27
You know, I think that has
to do with the sanctification.
00:50:41.30\00:50:44.57
It does in process.
00:50:44.61\00:50:45.94
You know, as you are, you know,
00:50:45.97\00:50:47.31
going from one level of glory
to the next level of glory,
00:50:47.34\00:50:50.65
and to me I don't know whether
I can see myself growing,
00:50:50.68\00:50:56.32
but those that are
close to me that love me
00:50:56.35\00:50:58.45
and accept me for
who I am with agape love,
00:50:58.49\00:51:01.09
then they can see that growth
00:51:01.12\00:51:02.79
and then they can,
you know, encourage you.
00:51:02.82\00:51:07.63
Yes. I think it's powerful too.
00:51:07.66\00:51:09.60
It says, where mine
says, "Charity never fails
00:51:09.63\00:51:12.17
or love never fails."
00:51:12.20\00:51:14.17
Amen.
00:51:14.20\00:51:15.54
That's amazing and
that's really a promise.
00:51:15.57\00:51:17.41
Yes, it is. It
never, it will not.
00:51:17.44\00:51:19.74
And that's another
one of those play on words
00:51:19.77\00:51:21.48
because I look at
charity as one thing
00:51:21.51\00:51:23.48
and but here
will bring into love
00:51:23.51\00:51:25.11
and when that, if
you stop and think,
00:51:25.15\00:51:26.48
"Oh, oh, I see
the similarities."
00:51:26.51\00:51:29.98
Yeah. Okay.
00:51:30.02\00:51:33.19
What verse in there?
00:51:33.22\00:51:34.56
It will be verse--
00:51:34.59\00:51:35.92
Going into 11.
00:51:35.96\00:51:37.99
"When I was a
child, I spoke as a child,
00:51:38.03\00:51:40.96
I understood as a
child, and thought as a child,
00:51:41.00\00:51:45.20
but when I became a man,
00:51:45.23\00:51:46.87
I put away self childish things.
00:51:46.90\00:51:50.27
For now we see
in a mirror, dimly,
00:51:50.31\00:51:53.81
but then face to face.
00:51:53.84\00:51:55.71
Now I know in part,
00:51:55.74\00:51:57.48
but then I shall know
just as I also am known.
00:51:57.51\00:52:02.58
And now abide faith,
hope, love, these three,
00:52:02.62\00:52:07.39
but the greatest
of them is love."
00:52:07.42\00:52:12.36
Amen.
00:52:12.39\00:52:13.73
Now, pastor, not
putting you on the spot here,
00:52:13.76\00:52:16.06
I have an Andrew Study Bible.
00:52:16.10\00:52:17.53
We have Pastor Murray.
00:52:17.57\00:52:18.90
We are putting you
on the spot right now.
00:52:18.93\00:52:20.54
I think Irma has
the Andrew Study too.
00:52:20.57\00:52:22.30
This is it. Oh, yes I do.
00:52:22.34\00:52:23.67
But it talks
about the part of our--
00:52:23.71\00:52:25.61
"Now we see in a mirror,
dimly, but then face to face."
00:52:25.64\00:52:28.58
And I never understood
that, that's just being honest.
00:52:28.61\00:52:31.11
I thought well,
when I look in the mirror
00:52:31.15\00:52:32.58
I can see pretty clearly, right.
00:52:32.61\00:52:34.42
But my Bible down
here says "Distorted.
00:52:34.45\00:52:37.85
The ancient mirrors were
generally made from brass
00:52:37.89\00:52:40.66
which produced
distorted images."
00:52:40.69\00:52:42.92
Is that accurate? Yeah.
00:52:42.96\00:52:44.83
The word is, I
don't remember the Greek
00:52:44.86\00:52:47.76
but dimly is not
the clearest explanation
00:52:47.80\00:52:50.60
though it is in
encompassed by the Greek.
00:52:50.63\00:52:54.04
The best word is they call
it parallax, a parallax view.
00:52:54.07\00:52:58.37
And that's part of
the key of the Greek word.
00:52:58.41\00:53:00.51
And what is that?
00:53:00.54\00:53:02.24
Parallax view is
view off to the side
00:53:02.28\00:53:05.35
so that you don't see
it really, really, clear.
00:53:05.38\00:53:07.68
When you are dead-ons
00:53:07.72\00:53:09.05
like you've been
looking in those old TVs,
00:53:09.08\00:53:10.89
those old projecting TVs
00:53:10.92\00:53:12.25
the further you
got from the center
00:53:12.29\00:53:13.62
the distorted the
picture came to you.
00:53:13.66\00:53:14.99
If you got over here
you couldn't see it at all.
00:53:15.02\00:53:16.73
So it's a parallax view.
00:53:16.76\00:53:18.39
It's a distorted
view, it's not a clear view.
00:53:18.43\00:53:20.60
So now you see,
00:53:20.63\00:53:21.96
but you don't have
the clearest view of God.
00:53:22.00\00:53:24.40
And a lot of
times that will distort
00:53:24.43\00:53:26.87
how you respond to Him
00:53:26.90\00:53:28.24
because you think
He is doing one thing
00:53:28.27\00:53:29.60
and He is now
doing something else
00:53:29.64\00:53:30.97
or you think you
are one way in His side
00:53:31.01\00:53:32.34
and you are not,
you are something else.
00:53:32.37\00:53:33.98
So you don't see it
clearly. It's a parallax view.
00:53:34.01\00:53:37.88
But then--
00:53:37.91\00:53:39.25
This is face to face.
00:53:39.28\00:53:40.62
Yeah, then you
will see in face to face
00:53:40.65\00:53:41.98
and you will know
00:53:42.02\00:53:43.35
and that's why love
has to be undergirding
00:53:43.39\00:53:45.45
for all that you do
00:53:45.49\00:53:46.82
because you don't
have the full picture now.
00:53:46.86\00:53:48.52
You really don't but that
00:53:48.56\00:53:51.26
that parallax is made
up by your love for Him.
00:53:51.29\00:53:53.46
We are gonna make mistakes,
we all do all the time.
00:53:53.50\00:53:56.16
So what cleans that up, Shelley?
00:53:56.20\00:53:57.87
What makes that clear?
00:53:57.90\00:53:59.23
What tidies up the mess we make?
00:53:59.27\00:54:01.84
Our love for God, you
know, that's what cleans it up.
00:54:01.87\00:54:04.81
So God says, you know what,
00:54:04.84\00:54:06.91
you didn't do
such a good job there
00:54:06.94\00:54:08.98
but you love Me, so I
give you a credit, you know.
00:54:09.01\00:54:12.18
Amen. Praise Jesus.
00:54:12.21\00:54:14.25
Because you are not
seeing Him really clear
00:54:14.28\00:54:16.82
because it's
distorted by your friends,
00:54:16.85\00:54:18.52
it's distorted by
maybe you just got up,
00:54:18.55\00:54:20.26
you had too much
pizza the night before,
00:54:20.29\00:54:22.49
so you got up the next morning
00:54:22.52\00:54:23.86
and you are not
having a good day,
00:54:23.89\00:54:25.43
you know, and maybe you
say some things you shouldn't
00:54:25.46\00:54:28.33
and you shake
your finger to God,
00:54:28.36\00:54:30.03
those kind of things
and God says, I love him
00:54:30.07\00:54:32.77
because I know, you know,
00:54:32.80\00:54:34.40
and one day she
will see clearly.
00:54:34.44\00:54:35.80
And one thing that
I wrote down earlier
00:54:35.84\00:54:37.71
and this is the
perfect time to bring it
00:54:37.74\00:54:39.84
in my opinion is we--
00:54:39.87\00:54:45.38
it's kind of like monkey
see monkey do and that means,
00:54:45.41\00:54:49.85
you know, that we
have role models in life
00:54:49.88\00:54:52.65
and so the
clear that we can see,
00:54:52.69\00:54:55.16
this is our role
model right here.
00:54:55.19\00:54:57.16
There you go. It's God's word.
00:54:57.19\00:54:58.53
And if we get into
here, then we begin to see
00:54:58.56\00:55:00.66
what love is and
grasp on it if you want it.
00:55:00.70\00:55:04.93
Yeah, that's right.
00:55:04.97\00:55:06.30
And I look at it that
00:55:06.33\00:55:07.67
when I look the Bible
reflects who I am in Christ,
00:55:07.70\00:55:11.27
but I don't have enough
light so I still see dimly
00:55:11.31\00:55:13.98
until His light is
more perfected in me.
00:55:14.01\00:55:17.58
And the monkey see,
monkey do is 2 Corinthians 3:18,
00:55:17.61\00:55:20.55
we become what we behold
in. So it is as we get in there.
00:55:20.58\00:55:24.25
Amen. Amen.
00:55:24.29\00:55:25.62
Boy, I tell you, our
hour has slipped very quickly.
00:55:25.65\00:55:28.09
We just got a
couple of minutes left.
00:55:28.12\00:55:29.72
We usually like to
00:55:29.76\00:55:31.29
and different people give
in just some short prayers.
00:55:31.33\00:55:33.06
We have a couple of minutes.
00:55:33.09\00:55:34.43
Let's just all pray
to something real quick
00:55:34.46\00:55:35.80
that maybe comes to your heart.
00:55:35.83\00:55:37.17
And if something's
on your heart at home
00:55:37.20\00:55:38.83
bring it before
the Lord with us.
00:55:38.87\00:55:40.20
That's right. Yeah.
00:55:40.24\00:55:41.57
Go ahead, JD,
why don't you start?
00:55:41.60\00:55:42.94
Father, I just
want to thank You.
00:55:42.97\00:55:44.31
So first of all, Lord, for You
00:55:44.34\00:55:46.88
and just give You
praise and glory, Lord,
00:55:46.91\00:55:48.68
because all good and
perfect things come from you.
00:55:48.71\00:55:50.85
You're our role model, Lord.
00:55:50.88\00:55:52.81
Father, we thank
You for the Sabbath day.
00:55:52.85\00:55:54.55
We thank You, Lord,
that we can call upon You
00:55:54.58\00:55:56.42
and turn everything over to you.
00:55:56.45\00:55:58.02
Amen.
00:55:58.05\00:55:59.39
Father, I thank
You that it is You
00:55:59.42\00:56:01.19
that will perfect us in love.
00:56:01.22\00:56:03.43
Amen.
00:56:03.46\00:56:04.79
You will perfect us in holiness
00:56:04.83\00:56:06.46
as you perfect us
and help us to surrender
00:56:06.49\00:56:09.20
to yield control
of our lives to You.
00:56:09.23\00:56:11.83
Amen.
00:56:11.87\00:56:13.37
Lord, Jesus, we will
give You our hearts just now.
00:56:13.40\00:56:15.57
We ask that You would come in
00:56:15.60\00:56:16.94
and that You
would pour Your love
00:56:16.97\00:56:20.28
into our hearts.
00:56:20.31\00:56:24.11
Heavenly Father, and
I ask not just for us
00:56:24.15\00:56:27.95
that You give us
a surrender heart
00:56:27.98\00:56:30.12
but also love for the viewers
those that are participating
00:56:30.15\00:56:34.09
and listening
and watching with us
00:56:34.12\00:56:37.53
that you would help them
to know how much You love them
00:56:37.56\00:56:40.86
and not to worry about doing
all that it needs to be done
00:56:40.90\00:56:46.74
but to just surrender to You
00:56:46.77\00:56:48.77
and believe that Your love
as it comes into their hearts,
00:56:48.80\00:56:54.18
they can also attain all
that God wants them to be.
00:56:54.21\00:56:58.31
Amen.
00:56:58.35\00:56:59.68
Dear Father, in 1
John 3, You impressed John
00:56:59.71\00:57:01.62
to write what
manner of love, what with,
00:57:01.65\00:57:05.39
what depths of
love you've given to us
00:57:05.42\00:57:08.16
that we should be
called the sons of God.
00:57:08.19\00:57:10.56
And we exclaim that today Lord
00:57:10.59\00:57:12.29
as we look at the
depth of Your love.
00:57:12.33\00:57:14.10
What have we done? We
know we've done nothing.
00:57:14.13\00:57:17.17
It's all because of
You that we are called
00:57:17.20\00:57:19.47
in account of
the children of God,
00:57:19.50\00:57:21.37
so we can stand boldly and say,
00:57:21.40\00:57:23.10
God as our helper and
Christ died to save us.
00:57:23.14\00:57:25.97
And we are the children of
God not because of our goodness
00:57:26.01\00:57:29.24
but because of Your great love
00:57:29.28\00:57:31.05
to which we thank
You in Jesus name.
00:57:31.08\00:57:33.65
Amen.
00:57:33.68\00:57:35.02
Thank you for joining
us for family worship.
00:57:35.05\00:57:36.38
Happy Sabbath and God bless.
00:57:36.42\00:57:37.95