I want to spend my life
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Spend my life.
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Removing pain
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Lord let my words
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Let my words
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Heal a heart that hurts
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people.
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Hello, and
welcome to 3ABN Today,
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to our Family Worship program.
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I love having family worships
on 3ABN, don't you, Yvonne?
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I love it. I love the concept.
I love the implementation.
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And I just
think it's so special.
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I know. Just a few, actually
a few months ago it hit me.
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I wonder why we're
not doing a, you know,
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we talk about the
Sabbath, we enjoy the Sabbath.
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We should have programs
bringing in the Sabbath.
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So when you're watching
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no matter where you're
in the world, you may say,
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well, this is not
exactly Sabbath to us,
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but you know what?
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It's coming.
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You tape the program then
and play it right at sundown.
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But I think we should
worship God on any day,
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but it's always
special on the seventh day
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because God created
it as the special time
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between He and His people.
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Yes.
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And so it's a time that--
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In my life, it's very
important and always has been,
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and we're gonna
talk about it, for you.
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And we have Brother
Kenny and Chris over here.
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Shelton, my brother, of course,
and sister-in-law and Jason.
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Do you know Jason
down there? I think I do.
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In fact I think
know him really well.
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I think you do.
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Of course, your son,
your youngest son Jason.
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Yes, yes.
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So Jason, we
call him the baby son
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except on Tuesday nights
when he was playing basketball.
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He suddenly
becomes a man out there.
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Oh, the other night, he got
a rebound and slapped it down
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and one of the guys
said, that's a man rebound,
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there he said, the Jason.
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But Jason loves
to play basketball.
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So we still go
out, don't we, Jason?
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All the time.
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At my old age,
I'm still out there.
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And Brother Kenny comes
once in a while, we get him.
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So we like to have fun. Amen.
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And, well, again we're
glad that you guys are here.
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Thanks for joining us.
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I know you been traveling
a lot, the last few months.
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Where you been?
You were in Minnesota?
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Minnesota. Yeah.
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They have had
evangelistic series up there.
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Yeah, three weeks there
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and then we went to
Cleveland, Ohio, for four weeks.
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And we came home and
the Fall Camp Meeting
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for 3ABN and
then flew right back
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to finish the week there.
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And we came
home a couple of days
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and we went to the Bronx,
New York, for a week of prayer.
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So we've just
been home a few days,
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but we really, we
enjoyed ourselves.
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Yes, it was wonderful.
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There's a week of
prayer, but the good news was
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there were people at the
end of the week of prayer
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that wanted to be baptized.
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Oh, great. Yes.
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And we were really
blessed. It was such a blessing.
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Oh, tremendous.
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You know, Yvonne, you and
me talk quite a bit about,
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of course the Bible
and favorite scriptures
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and I think, one
thing that we agree on
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and we always loved to talk
about is praise and worship.
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Oh, yes.
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And we talk about many
of our churches are devoid,
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it seems like, of
praise and worship.
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Now some of our churches,
we may even go to church
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and people shouting
all over and running,
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that maybe praise or maybe not,
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you know what I'm saying?
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How do I know what it is?
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I'm not gonna be the
judge for them, right?
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And then I go to some churches
and people are real quiet.
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And they say, boy,
we just praise the Lord.
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So it's interesting,
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you know, so I guess we
can't judge a book by its cover.
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But for me, every now and
then, if I'm praising the Lord
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or I'm reading the
scriptures or I'm in church
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and somebody is preaching,
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I just got to lift my
hand and say, praise the Lord.
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Yes.
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And every now and then,
I get a little bit loud.
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And so everybody,
you know, have to,
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but maybe it's
just the way I know.
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Brother Kenny and Chris,
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you know when they are
in audience, you know that?
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Oh, yeah.
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I love it when
they are in the audience
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because they do the
call and response thing.
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So when the
preacher is preaching,
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they are saying
amen, I love that.
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You know, for years, I
was one of those quiet mice
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that were sitting in church.
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But they were so many
times that I wanted to say amen,
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but I was afraid.
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I wanted to lift my--
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I could feel it, you know.
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And it's like, once
I became more mature
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in my spiritual walk,
you know, I began to read
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where God inhabits His praises.
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And so I began
slowly to praise God
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and I never want to go
back, I never want to go back.
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Some of the meetings
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where the Holy
Spirit is the strongest,
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it's when people are praising
Him and they are expressing,
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they are expressing
their true feelings.
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Yeah, and I think people,
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you know, people
express themselves differently.
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So if you feel
uncomfortable responding
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then that's your
particular way of worship.
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But if I want to say,
Lord, thank you, thank you,
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because you just get all
full when you start thinking
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about the goodness of the Lord.
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You get full.
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I'm getting ready to
start preaching up in here,
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right now.
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And, you know, and
you start getting full
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and it's like--
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Sometimes I'm in my car
and I'm listening to music
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and I'm singing
along, guess what happened,
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that time I had that accident.
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I'm singing along, you
know, and I'm praising the Lord
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and just saying,
thank you, Jesus, thank you.
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Because you can
really do that and feel like,
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you know, well, nobody
is around at that point.
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But even in church, if
you want to lift your hands
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and say, thank you, Lord.
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I just believe that, if I feel
like doing it, I should do it.
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But if you don't feel
like you should then you don't.
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Absolutely.
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When we were kids,
down on Warden Street
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and West Frankfort, Kenny
and I grew up down the corner,
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was the
Groveses, was Roy Groves.
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Roy had a bass voice
like Wintley, bass singer.
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Great guy, wonderful
guy, he's Pentecostal.
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And so he sang with
some of the family and Tommy
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and others of us, I mean,
just a wonderful Christian guy,
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you loved to be around
him because of his attitude.
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He's always
happy, always cheerful,
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always something
good to say, you know.
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So one time he
visited our church,
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we had little
church in West Frankfort.
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And so it was when we
call a white tight sometimes,
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he's little tight, you
know, where service goes little.
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We don't want to say
drive, but you know sometimes
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white people don't
get as, you know, excited,
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sometimes as other folk do.
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But anyway, he
comes to our church
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and he goes
right to the front row.
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Jason, this guy goes
right to the front row
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and all during the service
he's praise the Lord, glory,
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halleluiah, he's
just having church.
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I mean, and everybody else
is in the back of the church.
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All of us just looking at him,
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you know, and
now I'm used to him,
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but our some other
words members like, boy,
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this guy 'cause
it didn't take much.
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I mean you just say
some little something,
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he's like praise the
Lord, Glory, Hallelujah.
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He had a great time.
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When church was over, I
thought he has to notice
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how quiet every one else is.
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I wonder if he will relate that
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as to spiritual or not spiritual
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'cause sometimes
you make a lot of noise
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and people think
that's spiritual,
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that's not always,
doesn't mean spiritual, right?
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But I will never
forget, Kenny, after church,
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Roy was talking to somebody.
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This maybe in a week
or so later I was with him
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and he said, man,
he said, you got to go
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that Seventh-day
Adventist Church.
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Those people know
how to worship the Lord.
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He said, they were
praising God and there he said,
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he said the
Holy Spirit was there
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and was praising
the Lord, he said.
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And I looked him and I thought,
"Now how did he get that?"
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Because, what
occurred to me was,
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he was so busy
praising the Lord.
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He thought everybody
was praising that way,
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amen, praise the
Lord and hallelujah.
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So he, in his heart, he
said, man, those people know
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how to praise the
Lord out there and--
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And he didn't even realize
he was doing that by himself.
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No.
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And that's the way it
should be, other words,
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he wasn't
looking around and say,
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well, let's see,
can I praise the Lord?
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Do I want? Or why
aren't you praising the Lord?
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Or why are you to that...
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You know, he
didn't do any of that.
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He was so busy
that he loved it so much
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that from then on,
when he talk about--
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Let's say somebody of
Seventh-day Adventist...
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Oh, those people
know how to pray.
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Praise the Lord.
They know how to worship.
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I've been to their church.
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And, buddy, we had
church he said, you know.
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I think it's good.
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But one of the good
thing, he's always funny.
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He had an accident and
his three fingers were cut.
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All he had, I
guess, the right hand
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was look like here and
he would say, Kenny Ray.
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All of us...
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Was it Ray? Right again.
Yeah, he called Ray, yeah.
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And he said, I'm
gonna enjoy how to clap.
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I said, what do you have? He go.
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There were any noise,
but you start clapping.
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He say, that's what I mean.
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That's the way,
that's the way he would do it
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every time, but he was always--
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He was the most encouraging man
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that you would
ever want to be around.
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That regards
what you were doing.
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If you would said, even
he loved to coach baseball
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when we were just
young and so anyway--
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If you couldn't catch a ball,
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he had
something positive to say.
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If you couldn't hit it, he
had something positive to say
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and will try to show you how.
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So, yeah, I
think that says a lot,
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even the Christian experience,
we need to really be positive
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in the cause of Christ.
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And that's
something about worship.
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Worship doesn't
just happen in church.
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A lot of people
think worship is in church.
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We should worship
the Lord all the time.
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And so I've seen people
that's the most excited,
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to get up and run and shouting
all kinds of things in church,
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but during the week
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you wouldn't even
know they were Christian.
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And it's like, now, what is this
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when we come to church?
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You know we should be,
worship God all the time.
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Now there's a
special time he says,
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for our Friday evening sundown
till Saturday evening sundown,
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we didn't say, it's
what the Bible says.
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And God says, He wants to
be in the midst of His people.
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And he...
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it's a special time
of the week, He says,
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I want you to set
aside everything else.
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Remember the
Sabbath day to keep it holy.
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You know, Exodus 20:8.
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But he wants us to
set aside the world
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and be in communion with Him.
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And what a great time
to fellowship with friends
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and family and, you
know, church members
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and to just give
honor and glory and praise
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and worship the Lord.
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You know, what I
was wanting to do today
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maybe because this
program really isn't planned,
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you may think...
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We planned this out.
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And we didn't spend
much time planning, did we?
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No, not really.
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Well, so you know
what you're getting here.
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But, I thought we might each one
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to give a little
bit of testimony of,
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you know, today I
love praising the Lord,
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but I haven't always
enjoyed praising the Lord.
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I mean, I've always
said I was a Christian.
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I always, you
know, went to church,
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but I didn't always
enjoy praising the Lord.
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There were times when you
and I were playing baseball,
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Kenny, and softball,
you know, during the years
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and we had a team
that's very competitive.
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That there were times that I'd
be thinking about the ball game
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we were missing on Sabbath
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rather than to be
worshiping the Lord.
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But praise the Lord,
His patience and His love,
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He stayed with me till
I'm able to put those things
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in proper perspective, you know.
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And so I enjoyed
praising the Lord,
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but maybe we should
go back a little bit.
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Why don't you take us back?
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Tell me a little bit, kind
of home you were raised in?
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And what Sabbath meant
to you in your household?
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And then through the
years, give us a little bit
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of where I know you were
out of church for a while
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and of course, you have
been back for many years
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and with the Lord.
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So give us a little bit of that.
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Well...
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Well, I grew up
in an Adventist home
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and my parents both
worked for the denomination.
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They were--
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My dad was a principal
of, of an elementary school.
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And for a while,
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my mom had worked in
the conference office,
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but then she ended up not
working for the denomination.
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So, and my
grandmother was a missionary,
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so I grew up in a
very spiritual home,
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but yet we didn't
have worship everyday.
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But every Friday
night, we had worship.
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And that was so
special to me because
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my dad would read from the word
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and he would
expand on it a little bit.
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And we would sing some songs
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and it was just a
special time in my home.
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And it's something that
even years later when I--
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My mom died when
I was 19 and I...
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For a while, I
was closer to the Lord
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and then I found
myself moving away from Him
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and doing things
that I had never done
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because I was
raised in a Christian home.
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I go into parties,
not drinking and smoking
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and stuff like that,
but just doing things
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that I knew that I
shouldn't have been doing.
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Then I ended up going
into the music business.
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And it's interesting
how Satan works, you know.
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He just kind of
gently, gradually
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causes you to be
adrift and before you know it,
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you are out to see.
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Yes. You don't even realize.
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And it's started with
me not going to church.
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I'm too tired today.
I'm just gonna stay home.
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Not having my family worship,
not having real worship myself
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and then not going to church.
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I started just, you know,
every Sabbath I was tired.
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And so I would
just-- and it's a habit.
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Going to church is a habit.
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So anyway, I
stopped going to church
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and had gotten
into the music business
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and was caught up
into that lifestyle.
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Again, thankfully, I
never got into the drugs
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and all the wild
stuff, but you don't have
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to be wild to be lost.
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Right?
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It's about the relationship
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and my relationship was
torn, but God is so faithful.
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And I just thank Him,
I praise Him, right now.
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I just want to stop
and say, thank you, Lord,
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because You are so faithful.
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You, for me, you let
me know that You love me.
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And it was
through people, my family,
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that, you know, that
loved me and prayed for me
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and never stopped
praying, never stop praying
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for that loved
one, that's out there.
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The Lord brought me
back to Him in 1985.
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My grandmother was
going to Ephesus Church
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and I've told this story before,
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but I'm just thankful for it.
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So she was going
to Ephesus Church
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and she said to me, we
have a new pastor coming.
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You need to come
and hear him speak.
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And by then, the Lord
had started working on me.
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I had started
reading the Bible again.
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I'd started studying again,
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but I hadn't
started going to church.
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This was in New York?
This was in New York, in 1985.
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And, and I went
and I can remember...
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Whenever I would go to
visit my grandmother's church,
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which was the Ephesus
Seventh-day Adventist Church
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in Manhattan.
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Whenever I would go and
visit, I would just feel like,
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wow, I really need
to be back in church.
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This is where I
should be and I was...
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I would cry.
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I would just feel so full
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'cause I would feel
the Holy Spirits presence.
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And this
particular Sabbath I went,
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I heard the new preacher,
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it was pastor C.A.
Murray, it was just powerful,
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such a powerful
word from on high.
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And I thought this is it.
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This is where
I'm supposed to be.
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And from that time on,
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I have never ever
regretted coming back to Jesus.
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It's the best
thing I could ever do.
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Amen.
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And you came here
several years ago,
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and when we would
have prayer request,
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she would pray for her sons.
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She would say, pray for
my, my boys Martin and Jason.
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Yes.
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And sitting down
on the end is Jason.
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Jason, take us
back a little bit.
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You look like you have never
had a problem in your life,
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problem, and born
and raised in a church
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and never ever left.
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And the Lord, you look like,
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doesn't he look like
million dollar sitting there?
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He does.
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Well, as good as that would be.
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I've experienced my
fair share of problems.
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I remember coming up...
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And my mom used to read
just different devotionals
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and she would do, I think,
one was "Out Of This World,"
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and "Morning Riser,"
or something like that.
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And she would
read it every night.
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And, I mean, we must have gone
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through those books
a million and one time.
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But we would always find a story
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that we've never heard before.
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I don't know how it
worked, but it worked.
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So she brought
me up in the church
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and if I didn't do anything else
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I had to go to church.
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My dad, he was Adventist
when they were married.
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He was Adventist
for a little while.
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I think that had a
lot to do with mom,
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but after they had
gotten divorce, mom,
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she always read to me,
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she always read
those stories at night.
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But later on growing up,
I began to view the Sabbath
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and going to
church and all that stuff
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and the Commandments
everything as a burden.
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I didn't view it
from the perspective
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of God is
telling us these things
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because He loves us
and He cares about us.
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We shouldn't drink
because it kills you.
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We shouldn't smoke
because it kills you.
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We shouldn't do a
lot of these things
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because the end result is death.
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And, you know, He
gave up His life for us
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and such a loving sacrifice.
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I remember, when I was 14,
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I started leaving everything
that I knew that was good.
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I started living a lifestyle
that I had no business living.
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Unlike my mom, I did get
into the drugs and alcohol
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and the parties and
all of those things.
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And as the years
went on, it progressed
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and got worse and worse.
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And there's been several
other things that happened,
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but all throughout that time,
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my mother never
stopped loving me,
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my father never
stopped loving me.
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I had a family
that rallied behind me
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when I got in trouble.
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They came to my aid.
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They got me the
help that was needed.
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They loved me unconditionally
and they kept praying for me.
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Amen.
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And my mother
prayed me back into church.
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I just recently got re-baptized.
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I believe that.
Recently, he was re-baptized.
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That was gone, yeah. Yes.
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You couldn't keep your eyes dry.
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I don't blame her.
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Even thinking about it
now I get full blessed.
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There are so many,
could I take a minute
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to talk to the mothers?
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We got time.
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There are so many
mother's out here,
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who's children are
not walking with the Lord.
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Don't be discouraged. Trust God.
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God wants to save them
more than you want them saved.
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And He will open
heaven up to save them.
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Just keep
praying. Just keep praying.
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Try not to lecture,
but just keep praying
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and loving them and God
will answer your prayers.
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Eventually, through the years,
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you will see the
fruits of your prayer,
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by the grace of God.
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Amen. Praise the Lord.
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So, Jason, you are
happy now? Very much so.
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It's so much better
on this side of things
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than being out
there in the world
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and dealing with
all that struggle.
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There's an
overwhelming peace that comes...
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So the Jesus party
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is a lot better than
the world party, huh?
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Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
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Good, I said
something to somebody
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the other day Yvonne or you
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and the Republican
Party, the Democratic Party?
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I said I'm not
in Republican Party,
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I'm not in the Democratic Party,
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I'm not in any
independent party,
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I'm in the Jesus
party, because the Jesus party
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is only that lasts forever.
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You talk about parties,
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usually you go
somewhere and it ends, right?
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And you go home. But to Jesus...
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All these other
parties are gonna fail.
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So those of you as
Christians don't get too vibe,
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we are in a political time
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and the elections are coming
next year, don't get so...
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So, tore up about it, if
I can use that expression.
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My dad used to say,
don't get so tore up about it.
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Don't get so
involved that you forget
00:20:25.62\00:20:27.42
what the Bible
says, because you think
00:20:27.46\00:20:29.32
you need to support some party,
00:20:29.36\00:20:31.33
political party,
that's all gonna be gone.
00:20:31.36\00:20:33.90
The only thing that
will last in eternity is,
00:20:33.93\00:20:37.37
if we can last for eternity
00:20:37.40\00:20:39.00
because of the
sacrifice of the Lord Christ.
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So the only thing that's
gonna last forever is our soul
00:20:41.74\00:20:45.01
when we commit
it to Jesus Christ
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and confess our sins
00:20:46.84\00:20:48.28
and say, Lord, come
into my heart and my life.
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And then go and tell
what He's done for us.
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So don't get caught
up in all the parties,
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whether they're drug parties,
00:20:54.35\00:20:55.68
any other
parties, political parties,
00:20:55.72\00:20:57.39
just get caught up
in the Jesus party.
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And also by embracing some
of those political parties,
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you're, in essence embracing
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some of their
morals or lack thereof.
00:21:04.39\00:21:06.49
Yeah. Right Absolutely true.
00:21:06.53\00:21:09.40
In most cases,
lack thereof, right?
00:21:09.43\00:21:11.17
Yes, here some of
them may sound good,
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but in the end
result, there's only way to go
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and that's to
stick with the Bible,
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no matter what, you stick there,
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you can't go wrong.
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That's right. All right.
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So, Chris, I know you have
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never had a
problem in your life.
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Everything has been...
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My mom used to say hunky-dory.
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I don't know what that means.
00:21:27.92\00:21:29.25
What's that mean,
Kenny, hunky-dory.
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My mom used to say,
let's say how you're doing?
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She would say,
oh, I'm hunky-dory.
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I always assumed, it meant good.
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It means good. It means good.
00:21:35.72\00:21:37.06
But I have no idea of
what it means, but anyway.
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So I figured that your life,
00:21:40.13\00:21:42.26
everything has
been a barrel of fun,
00:21:42.30\00:21:43.97
a bed of roses, right?
00:21:44.00\00:21:45.50
Well, I never really
told this publicly before,
00:21:45.53\00:21:49.30
but my family was
very dysfunctional.
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And I never had worships.
We never had family worship.
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The closest I ever got to it is,
00:21:57.21\00:21:59.45
in the summer time, my mom...
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Because she had left the
church after she married my dad.
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And she would send us...
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If there was a
Vacation Bible School,
00:22:05.55\00:22:07.22
but it would always be,
00:22:07.26\00:22:08.59
you know,
different denominations.
00:22:08.62\00:22:10.49
It's very
interesting, because even though
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I would go and I
would hear about Jesus,
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I was never very comfortable
in these other churches.
00:22:16.03\00:22:19.63
Now if I went to
visit my grandparents,
00:22:19.67\00:22:22.64
that lived in Marion, Illinois,
and they were Adventists.
00:22:22.67\00:22:25.74
I would go to
church with my grandmother
00:22:25.77\00:22:28.28
and I was always
comfortable in that church.
00:22:28.31\00:22:31.28
I always felt like
God had His hand on me,
00:22:31.31\00:22:34.78
even though I didn't
really know that much about Him.
00:22:34.82\00:22:38.25
And so a lot of things
that was just a progressive
00:22:38.29\00:22:42.42
revelation for me
as I continued to go
00:22:42.46\00:22:44.99
and, you know, to church,
when I was a little bit older.
00:22:45.03\00:22:49.50
What had happened was,
my family was dysfunctional
00:22:49.53\00:22:52.33
and I ended up living
with my grandparents at...
00:22:52.37\00:22:55.74
I was probably
about fifth grade.
00:22:55.77\00:22:57.67
And so she would
always take me to church
00:22:57.71\00:22:59.74
and they could tell that
I had a love for the Lord,
00:22:59.77\00:23:02.08
but we really,
even in their family,
00:23:02.11\00:23:03.91
we never had a
family devotional.
00:23:03.95\00:23:06.55
And I remember a
family moving in,
00:23:06.58\00:23:10.62
they lived in Carbondale,
which is somewhat close to here
00:23:10.65\00:23:13.49
and they had two young girls.
00:23:13.52\00:23:15.39
So I would go stay all
night with those young girls
00:23:15.42\00:23:18.36
and their family
was so spiritual.
00:23:18.39\00:23:21.13
And I remember
having family devotionals
00:23:21.16\00:23:23.87
and their kids all around.
00:23:23.90\00:23:25.77
And I remember being
very young and thinking,
00:23:25.80\00:23:28.00
wow, when I grow up I
want a family like this.
00:23:28.04\00:23:32.61
It was so...
00:23:32.64\00:23:33.98
It made such a
stance in my heart,
00:23:34.01\00:23:37.98
you know, I never forgot.
00:23:38.01\00:23:39.68
I thought I want
a family like that.
00:23:39.71\00:23:41.28
I want to be a
mother that can pray.
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I want my children to feel
00:23:44.19\00:23:45.99
what I was feeling in that home.
00:23:46.02\00:23:48.26
And things
weren't always smooth.
00:23:48.29\00:23:50.46
It took a long time.
00:23:50.49\00:23:51.83
God's still working on me
00:23:51.86\00:23:53.19
and I'm thankful for
His mercy and His grace.
00:23:53.23\00:23:56.36
But it's very interesting,
even as a young child,
00:23:56.40\00:24:00.50
I was learning the
stuff with my grandmother.
00:24:00.54\00:24:03.24
And even before I
went to live with her,
00:24:03.27\00:24:06.78
I learned about
there's certain foods
00:24:06.81\00:24:08.68
that we shouldn't be eating,
that the Bible talks about.
00:24:08.71\00:24:11.21
And one in particular was pork.
00:24:11.25\00:24:14.12
And I remember my
mother had a restaurant
00:24:14.15\00:24:16.55
and I was sitting
back there and my dad
00:24:16.58\00:24:18.25
and she, I think by that time
00:24:18.29\00:24:19.85
they may have been
divorced, I don't know.
00:24:19.89\00:24:21.56
But they were in there
arguing and he didn't like it
00:24:21.59\00:24:24.26
'cause I would have to
go stay with him on Sabbath
00:24:24.29\00:24:26.66
and I had come to the
point even as a young age,
00:24:26.70\00:24:29.86
he always wanted to take us
00:24:29.90\00:24:31.23
to a place
called Soulard Market,
00:24:31.27\00:24:32.60
which I loved it 'cause it
had all these wonderful food
00:24:32.63\00:24:35.84
and different crafts,
but it was always on Sabbath.
00:24:35.87\00:24:39.14
And so as a little
girl, I'm trying not to look,
00:24:39.17\00:24:42.84
as I'm walking through
there and he didn't like that.
00:24:42.88\00:24:46.21
So he was
arguing with my mother,
00:24:46.25\00:24:47.85
and he didn't like
it that I was starting
00:24:47.88\00:24:50.12
to not want to eat pork.
00:24:50.15\00:24:52.15
And but my favorite
sandwich was a ham sandwich.
00:24:52.19\00:24:55.46
And I remember him
looking at me and my mom
00:24:55.49\00:24:58.46
and he said, what in the
world do you think that ham is?
00:24:58.49\00:25:02.33
And I thought ham
is ham. I don't know.
00:25:02.36\00:25:10.31
But, you know,
he said that is pork
00:25:10.34\00:25:12.34
and you are
eating it, that's pork.
00:25:12.37\00:25:13.91
See you can eat it.
00:25:13.94\00:25:16.04
At that point in time,
00:25:16.08\00:25:17.85
even though I'd
never been baptized, never,
00:25:17.88\00:25:20.52
you know, really wasn't
going to church every Sabbath,
00:25:20.55\00:25:22.58
just when I
visited my grandparents.
00:25:22.62\00:25:24.29
I never ate it again.
00:25:24.32\00:25:25.69
Wow. He just...
00:25:25.72\00:25:27.16
It was always those things,
00:25:27.19\00:25:28.52
as I learned I always
had a heart to follow Him.
00:25:28.56\00:25:31.53
I didn't always make the
right decisions growing up.
00:25:31.56\00:25:35.10
But I had that
calling to want to serve
00:25:35.13\00:25:38.57
and to be closer to Him.
00:25:38.60\00:25:40.27
So it's, for me, it's been more
of a progressive revelation.
00:25:40.30\00:25:43.61
And I knew He
had His hand on me.
00:25:43.64\00:25:45.17
Let me tell you another story
that it physically, they were--
00:25:45.21\00:25:48.71
My parents had been arguing,
my mom was back in her bedroom,
00:25:48.74\00:25:51.61
she was crying, I was
crying just uncontrollably,
00:25:51.65\00:25:56.65
I was on the couch
and I remember praying
00:25:56.69\00:26:00.26
and just, kind of, talking,
00:26:00.29\00:26:02.16
you know, whatever I
could at that time to the Lord.
00:26:02.19\00:26:05.83
And I remember feeling this,
00:26:05.86\00:26:08.43
what felt like a
big hand on my side.
00:26:08.46\00:26:12.17
And at that time I thought,
it felt like God had touched me
00:26:12.20\00:26:16.34
and the peace had just, kind of,
00:26:16.37\00:26:17.84
come over and I quit crying.
00:26:17.87\00:26:20.38
And at the very same
time, my mother came out
00:26:20.41\00:26:22.78
and she had, had
the same experience.
00:26:22.81\00:26:26.25
So even in some of
our darkest valleys,
00:26:26.28\00:26:30.05
God was there, and he put
His hand there to comfort.
00:26:30.09\00:26:34.99
And somehow it was just like
I'm gonna see you through this.
00:26:35.02\00:26:38.69
Oh, He'll never leave
us, He will never forsake us
00:26:38.73\00:26:41.83
and it's these types of memories
00:26:41.86\00:26:44.43
that we have growing up that,
00:26:44.47\00:26:46.17
you know, we need to hold on to.
00:26:46.20\00:26:47.94
Yes. Amen.
00:26:47.97\00:26:50.21
Brother Kenny, tell
us a little bit about
00:26:50.24\00:26:52.34
the background and
in the Shelton home.
00:26:52.37\00:26:54.74
And the raising up
and maybe a little bit
00:26:54.78\00:26:56.54
about our family worship
00:26:56.58\00:26:58.75
and then about
your own experience.
00:26:58.78\00:27:00.65
I've been wrong
about the others,
00:27:00.68\00:27:02.02
but now, I know Kenny
00:27:02.05\00:27:03.45
has never had a
problem in his life.
00:27:03.49\00:27:05.75
That's the brother
that loves you to say.
00:27:05.79\00:27:09.92
He'd looking past all
of these things in our life
00:27:09.96\00:27:12.79
because we did.
00:27:12.83\00:27:14.16
We grew up pretty close together
00:27:14.20\00:27:15.53
and we did a lot of
things in early adulthood
00:27:15.56\00:27:17.33
and so on and so forth, so.
00:27:17.37\00:27:19.13
But I think
probably, the great impression
00:27:19.17\00:27:23.30
always is on my mind was really,
00:27:23.34\00:27:26.21
again it's your
family, it's mom and dad.
00:27:26.24\00:27:28.71
And our mother
was always, always...
00:27:28.74\00:27:31.38
I looked at her as one
who was even more stable
00:27:31.41\00:27:33.42
than dad for a while,
that's my own opinion of this.
00:27:33.45\00:27:36.89
She would always encourage.
00:27:36.92\00:27:38.25
Say Friday
evening, we're talking about
00:27:38.29\00:27:39.62
worship service, you know,
and having times and just...
00:27:39.65\00:27:42.99
You would hear about
it hour before sundown
00:27:43.02\00:27:45.06
because we loved
play ball, we was outside,
00:27:45.09\00:27:46.96
she'd say,
guys, let's get ready,
00:27:47.00\00:27:49.16
it's just about
an hour for sundown.
00:27:49.20\00:27:50.77
Let's get everything all put up.
00:27:50.80\00:27:52.13
Let's get ready to go.
00:27:52.17\00:27:53.50
Well, you didn't
hardly like it back then
00:27:53.54\00:27:54.87
because if you are
nine or ten years old,
00:27:54.90\00:27:56.24
you want to get
another inning in
00:27:56.27\00:27:57.61
or whatever it might be.
00:27:57.64\00:27:58.97
I never forget that voice.
00:27:59.01\00:28:01.08
You need to hurry, we're
getting close to sundown,
00:28:01.11\00:28:02.94
let's put these
things aside and then we did.
00:28:02.98\00:28:05.18
I'm thinking Friday evenings,
like you were talking about,
00:28:05.21\00:28:08.85
was the time where I
don't know how regular it was,
00:28:08.88\00:28:12.12
it seemed pretty much at times,
00:28:12.15\00:28:13.49
another time we may
have slacked or whatever,
00:28:13.52\00:28:15.59
but Friday evening was the
time that we came together.
00:28:15.62\00:28:19.39
A lot of singing went on.
00:28:19.43\00:28:21.36
I was probably
mum and in the corner,
00:28:21.40\00:28:23.47
not doing much, maybe hum along,
00:28:23.50\00:28:25.63
try to get out of it,
try to get away from that,
00:28:25.67\00:28:27.64
you know, when we
came to that point.
00:28:27.67\00:28:29.47
But I'm thankful we had
a family who loved music
00:28:29.50\00:28:31.24
and they loved to
sing praises to God.
00:28:31.27\00:28:34.64
All of that stuff,
whether we think it or not,
00:28:34.68\00:28:36.98
goes through our mind, Danny.
00:28:37.01\00:28:38.61
As you will know
while we were growing up,
00:28:38.65\00:28:40.05
whether you may
fight it a little bit,
00:28:40.08\00:28:41.68
it's maybe not the
things that you're thinking,
00:28:41.72\00:28:43.59
you want to go
and you want to do,
00:28:43.62\00:28:45.29
but those seeds are planted.
00:28:45.32\00:28:47.42
And those seeds
were continue to plant it
00:28:47.46\00:28:49.02
and going to church consistent,
talking about every week.
00:28:49.06\00:28:52.23
And I remember
that when I was 12,
00:28:52.26\00:28:54.63
I had a revival
in West Frankfort
00:28:54.66\00:28:56.87
and the Pastor Evangelist.
00:28:56.90\00:28:59.53
He was just preaching up storm.
00:28:59.57\00:29:00.90
He made a call, you
know, and I was listening,
00:29:00.94\00:29:04.44
I was listening,
and I was listening.
00:29:04.47\00:29:06.41
It's like the Holy Spirit say,
00:29:06.44\00:29:07.78
Kenny, it's time you make
a decision, you know, for Me.
00:29:07.81\00:29:11.35
And I thought that time I never,
00:29:11.38\00:29:13.52
I never got
permission, you usually...
00:29:13.55\00:29:15.25
It's permitting, you
have to ask mom or dad,
00:29:15.28\00:29:16.62
will you go up or whatever.
00:29:16.65\00:29:18.02
I never looked to the right.
I never looked to the left.
00:29:18.05\00:29:21.12
The little guy gets in the back,
00:29:21.16\00:29:22.49
just gets up and
then he just walks down
00:29:22.52\00:29:24.26
to the front, say
he want to be baptized.
00:29:24.29\00:29:27.00
And I'll never forget that day.
00:29:27.03\00:29:28.36
It was an exciting day, I knew
I was doing the right thing.
00:29:28.40\00:29:31.47
But you know, at that point
00:29:31.50\00:29:32.83
and where you're at
in your relationship,
00:29:32.87\00:29:34.20
there's ups and downs
00:29:34.24\00:29:35.57
and there's things in your life.
00:29:35.60\00:29:37.21
A man at church a lot of times,
00:29:37.24\00:29:38.57
he said, I thank God for
second chances, you know.
00:29:38.61\00:29:41.44
And I'm thinking
200 and 400 and 1000,
00:29:41.48\00:29:44.98
that's the kind
of God that we serve.
00:29:45.01\00:29:46.98
So I don't want
anyone to get discouraged.
00:29:47.02\00:29:48.95
That's right.
That He's always there.
00:29:48.98\00:29:51.59
When you left,
He never left you.
00:29:51.62\00:29:53.82
When I left or I pull away...
00:29:53.86\00:29:55.52
And never was
the time that we say,
00:29:55.56\00:29:56.89
well, we're not
serving the Lord,
00:29:56.93\00:29:58.26
never was the time
to say I'm giving up.
00:29:58.29\00:29:59.63
There's never times,
00:29:59.66\00:30:01.00
spend a few years
in service and so on.
00:30:01.03\00:30:02.36
There was times you said,
I don't want no more of this.
00:30:02.40\00:30:03.90
But it's, what you
talk about the worship
00:30:03.93\00:30:07.34
is taking that time
in studying and prayer
00:30:07.37\00:30:09.54
and keeping connected
was the important thing.
00:30:09.57\00:30:14.01
And just long story short.
00:30:14.04\00:30:16.95
I know what it's like,
people said, well, it's easy.
00:30:16.98\00:30:19.11
You know, you guys
were raised in the church,
00:30:19.15\00:30:20.68
that's not always
the easiest thing.
00:30:20.72\00:30:22.32
I don't know you may have a
different take on than I do.
00:30:22.35\00:30:25.09
But there's challenges
being raised in this movement
00:30:25.12\00:30:28.12
and there's challenges if
you are not and you come in.
00:30:28.16\00:30:30.79
But we get, it's old
hat, we hear it all the time,
00:30:30.83\00:30:34.03
we get immune to it, but that's,
00:30:34.06\00:30:36.23
you know, the
Lord had to continue
00:30:36.26\00:30:37.70
to work on my
heart and in my life.
00:30:37.73\00:30:40.20
And I know it's
about getting the,
00:30:40.24\00:30:44.54
you say, well, you
teach a Sabbath school class
00:30:44.57\00:30:46.17
or you teach the
young Mary class,
00:30:46.21\00:30:47.78
just don't told me, it
doesn't mean you're saved,
00:30:47.81\00:30:49.28
it doesn't mean
you even converted.
00:30:49.31\00:30:51.01
'Cause I remember
getting the little planks
00:30:51.05\00:30:52.75
and the little
things you hang on the wall,
00:30:52.78\00:30:54.12
I still have some of those,
00:30:54.15\00:30:55.48
you know, good
Sabbath school, young Mary--
00:30:55.52\00:30:57.25
And that point of time,
00:30:57.29\00:30:58.62
I guess I was never
really born again, you see.
00:30:58.65\00:31:01.32
And the Lord
reached me through a dream
00:31:01.36\00:31:02.69
and He talked to me about
00:31:02.72\00:31:04.06
three different
things in my life
00:31:04.09\00:31:05.43
and so I'm thankful that He did
00:31:05.46\00:31:06.80
what was necessary
to get my attention.
00:31:06.83\00:31:10.27
And in sometime, we go this way
He brings us right back focus.
00:31:10.30\00:31:13.70
Now I believe by
the grace of God,
00:31:13.74\00:31:15.20
we keep our eyes on
Him and stay focused.
00:31:15.24\00:31:17.54
This is our life's work.
This is what makes us happy.
00:31:17.57\00:31:21.51
This is what we do.
00:31:21.54\00:31:23.65
There's nothing like
it in the whole world
00:31:23.68\00:31:25.58
and I thought growing up,
00:31:25.61\00:31:26.95
Danny, we play
good game and we won.
00:31:26.98\00:31:28.38
There was nothing
like that in the world.
00:31:28.42\00:31:29.78
You know what I mean?
00:31:29.82\00:31:31.15
At that point in
time in our life,
00:31:31.19\00:31:32.52
you know, there was jumping
and shouting and carrying on
00:31:32.55\00:31:36.22
and I got to think in my
own Christian experience,
00:31:36.26\00:31:38.06
if I can't have more of
that kind of feeling for Jesus
00:31:38.09\00:31:41.36
than I did about a game
that didn't amount to --
00:31:41.40\00:31:43.87
or who the world
series, it's not or anybody
00:31:43.90\00:31:45.83
but, that
something's wrong with me,
00:31:45.87\00:31:47.70
I need to be more vitalized,
00:31:47.74\00:31:49.50
you know,
invigorated by the word.
00:31:49.54\00:31:52.74
And so, and you
mentioned a while ago,
00:31:52.77\00:31:54.48
just quickly I'll quit.
00:31:54.51\00:31:56.68
I'm so thankful, like I
said, God continues to work
00:31:56.71\00:31:59.41
and He's continued to
work on me, I'm learning.
00:31:59.45\00:32:02.32
But again, it's a
study. So I'm also thankful.
00:32:02.35\00:32:04.39
You said, you want
to bring back something
00:32:04.42\00:32:06.35
for family worship and
I jotted something down,
00:32:06.39\00:32:09.22
I didn't know what he
was talking about this,
00:32:09.26\00:32:10.83
but early this morning, I got up
00:32:10.86\00:32:12.43
and I jotted something
down, if you don't mind,
00:32:12.46\00:32:14.06
I'll just, it's a paragraph.
00:32:14.10\00:32:15.56
It's a paragraph. See
this is how the Lord works.
00:32:15.60\00:32:17.57
So I said, Lord,
what will be subject?
00:32:17.60\00:32:19.47
What maybe, we'll
just combine of whatever.
00:32:19.50\00:32:21.54
But this was
from Charles Watson.
00:32:21.57\00:32:24.27
He was actually the president
00:32:24.31\00:32:25.64
of the General
Conference 1930, 1936.
00:32:25.67\00:32:29.81
The insight that
man had was awesome.
00:32:29.84\00:32:33.18
The things he talked
about in the book that I read,
00:32:33.21\00:32:35.02
I thought wow,
that didn't even seem
00:32:35.05\00:32:36.72
to take place in those years.
00:32:36.75\00:32:38.32
But here's what he
said in this phase with
00:32:38.35\00:32:39.89
what you are doing here
and what you want to advocate.
00:32:39.92\00:32:43.36
He said, "We
deplore the sad abandonment
00:32:43.39\00:32:46.29
of the family alter
in any Adventist home."
00:32:46.33\00:32:49.86
I'm saying any Christian home
if you allow me put that in.
00:32:49.90\00:32:52.73
"Nothing is so conductive
to wholesome family life."
00:32:52.77\00:32:56.84
And notice this,
"And a consistent
00:32:56.87\00:32:58.67
religious
experience as the old fashion."
00:32:58.71\00:33:01.24
Notice this,
"Entirely scriptural practice
00:33:01.28\00:33:04.38
of daily family worship.
00:33:04.41\00:33:07.05
We urgently
appeal for it's revival
00:33:07.08\00:33:09.82
in every SDA home."
00:33:09.85\00:33:11.22
And I say every Christian home,
00:33:11.25\00:33:12.92
where it has been
permitted to lapse.
00:33:12.95\00:33:15.76
Here's a man looking
down at that point in time
00:33:15.79\00:33:17.86
and he said, this
is it, the wholesome,
00:33:17.89\00:33:19.96
this is scriptural,
this is what we need
00:33:20.00\00:33:21.93
everyday in our life and
the family that they say,
00:33:21.96\00:33:24.37
that prays
together, stays together.
00:33:24.40\00:33:25.73
But still, in this, right here,
00:33:25.77\00:33:27.24
he sensed that the
family's gonna stick together.
00:33:27.27\00:33:30.17
If we are gonna stick with God,
00:33:30.21\00:33:31.54
we have to have that
daily experience with him.
00:33:31.57\00:33:34.81
And so when people say,
you get excited about the word,
00:33:34.84\00:33:36.98
absolutely, it's
life and light to me.
00:33:37.01\00:33:39.61
And the more you've
been on the opposite side,
00:33:39.65\00:33:42.52
he brings you back, the
more grateful and thankful
00:33:42.55\00:33:45.45
that you are, the
more you love him, you see.
00:33:45.49\00:33:48.12
So I'm grateful and thankful,
00:33:48.16\00:33:49.49
not that this here
would just fit so perfectly
00:33:49.52\00:33:52.59
if that we need
to get back into it
00:33:52.63\00:33:53.96
and notice this "old-fashioned,
00:33:54.00\00:33:56.40
entirely scriptural practice
of daily family worship."
00:33:56.43\00:34:01.20
And he said a urgent appeal.
00:34:01.24\00:34:02.57
So I'm glad we're
having that urgent appeal
00:34:02.60\00:34:04.67
and that God is
still working on me
00:34:04.71\00:34:06.27
and I still
look forward to doing
00:34:06.31\00:34:07.64
of what little bit I
can to help finish his work,
00:34:07.68\00:34:09.64
so that we can go home.
00:34:09.68\00:34:11.01
What about you, Dan? Yeah.
00:34:11.05\00:34:12.51
Well, I was going off of
what Kenny was saying here,
00:34:12.55\00:34:15.62
we're thinking about growing up.
00:34:15.65\00:34:17.89
Now Kenny, he said a while ago,
00:34:17.92\00:34:19.32
he's probably in
a corner somewhere
00:34:19.35\00:34:21.16
when he was young
before his voice changed.
00:34:21.19\00:34:23.99
He was the tenor
singer, you know, he was that.
00:34:24.03\00:34:27.00
And we'd sing at church.
00:34:27.03\00:34:28.36
Our family
always sang at church,
00:34:28.40\00:34:29.73
mom and dad and the
four boys there are times
00:34:29.76\00:34:31.67
we always sang at the church.
00:34:31.70\00:34:33.44
And then his
voice began to change
00:34:33.47\00:34:35.14
and he didn't
want to sing anymore.
00:34:35.17\00:34:37.14
And my mom would
really have to fight with him
00:34:37.17\00:34:39.24
to get him, get
up there and sing
00:34:39.27\00:34:40.98
because he'd like, mom, I
really don't want to sing.
00:34:41.01\00:34:43.35
I remember him
sometimes after singing,
00:34:43.38\00:34:45.31
singing things like...
00:34:45.35\00:34:46.68
Boy, when I get away
from here, I never gonna sing,
00:34:46.72\00:34:48.42
have to sing in church again.
00:34:48.45\00:34:49.78
I mean that type of thing.
00:34:49.82\00:34:51.15
Kenny was not gonna
be, you know, in and ways,
00:34:51.19\00:34:54.86
you know, like, they would,
00:34:54.89\00:34:56.22
they basically
forced us at the time
00:34:56.26\00:34:57.96
you thought it was force him.
00:34:57.99\00:34:59.43
But me, I didn't
care. I was up for anything.
00:34:59.46\00:35:02.86
Get upfront.
00:35:02.90\00:35:04.23
You know I didn't care
how many people are there.
00:35:04.27\00:35:05.90
Kenny and Ronnie,
00:35:05.93\00:35:07.27
they did not
want to get upfront.
00:35:07.30\00:35:08.64
In fact in
gathering, Christmas caroling,
00:35:08.67\00:35:10.71
in gathering, we
used to have a car.
00:35:10.74\00:35:13.61
My dad would
take a tape-recorder,
00:35:13.64\00:35:15.11
my uncle owned
another car, tape-recorder
00:35:15.14\00:35:17.05
and we would -- in another one.
00:35:17.08\00:35:18.91
We'd take kids all up and down.
00:35:18.95\00:35:21.25
We'd start right
after thanksgiving.
00:35:21.28\00:35:22.92
Sometimes go all
through West Frankfort,
00:35:22.95\00:35:25.59
every street, go up till Benton.
00:35:25.62\00:35:27.59
Kenny and Ronnie hated to go.
00:35:27.62\00:35:28.96
I couldn't wait to go out
00:35:28.99\00:35:30.33
because I love just
being outside and running.
00:35:30.36\00:35:32.16
And we made competition,
my cousins, you know,
00:35:32.19\00:35:34.36
Dennis and some
of my age around.
00:35:34.40\00:35:36.63
We'd get out and tried it
in, see who got the most money
00:35:36.67\00:35:39.53
and you know, we
used Kenny and Ronnie,
00:35:39.57\00:35:41.24
they just, they didn't
mind getting out and having fun.
00:35:41.27\00:35:43.81
They just didn't want to talk.
00:35:43.84\00:35:45.17
Kenny was not
wanting to talk to strangers,
00:35:45.21\00:35:48.04
that he didn't know,
Ronnie didn't either.
00:35:48.08\00:35:49.94
My mommy used to say,
Ronnie is a very biblical.
00:35:49.98\00:35:52.01
He's yay-yay and nay-nay,
00:35:52.05\00:35:53.95
that's really all
day he wants to say.
00:35:53.98\00:35:56.48
And so if
anybody would have said,
00:35:56.52\00:35:58.15
well, Kenny you're
gonna be a preacher.
00:35:58.19\00:35:59.59
Ronnie you're
gonna be a preacher,
00:35:59.62\00:36:01.02
that's the last thing
that they wanted to do
00:36:01.06\00:36:03.32
was do something
where you're in public
00:36:03.36\00:36:05.53
and you have to speak about it.
00:36:05.56\00:36:07.13
So one night,
they were teenagers
00:36:07.16\00:36:09.00
probably 13, 14, I
was 10 or 11, time go--
00:36:09.03\00:36:12.10
He said hope-- Time
to go jay in together
00:36:12.13\00:36:15.47
and him and Ronnie
just don't want to go
00:36:15.50\00:36:17.57
and my mom was saying, to go
00:36:17.61\00:36:18.94
and they are
like, mom, what it's...
00:36:18.97\00:36:20.31
My dad he would, he was
the head of the household
00:36:20.34\00:36:22.24
so if he heard
something he come in.
00:36:22.28\00:36:24.25
So he said, boys,
what's going on here?
00:36:24.28\00:36:26.11
Well, mom says,
they don't want to go
00:36:26.15\00:36:27.48
in gathering night.
00:36:27.52\00:36:28.85
He said, well, tell
you what we will do,
00:36:28.88\00:36:30.22
make it simple.
00:36:30.25\00:36:31.59
I will let you do,
either you go in gathering
00:36:31.62\00:36:33.69
or you get a whooping,
now which one do you want?
00:36:33.72\00:36:35.76
Now when he gave you one...
00:36:35.79\00:36:37.19
There's a
difference in the spanking
00:36:37.23\00:36:39.13
and a whipping and a whooping,
00:36:39.16\00:36:40.60
you don't want the
whoop, that's the last thing.
00:36:40.63\00:36:43.53
My dad knew how to
give the whoopings.
00:36:43.57\00:36:45.03
Now he didn't do it very
often, only when we needed it.
00:36:45.07\00:36:47.97
And, you know you
can argue with that
00:36:48.00\00:36:49.87
and say what you want today.
00:36:49.90\00:36:51.84
But I wish we had a
whole lot more dads today
00:36:51.87\00:36:54.34
who loved their kids enough
to tender high a little bit
00:36:54.38\00:36:57.18
in order and to do it
you know in the right way.
00:36:57.21\00:36:59.75
Train up the child
in a way he should go.
00:36:59.78\00:37:02.08
So they said...
00:37:02.12\00:37:03.75
I put him in
that position. Yeah.
00:37:03.79\00:37:06.49
So all the time we blame parents
00:37:06.52\00:37:07.86
because they
step up to the play.
00:37:07.89\00:37:09.36
Don't mean to
interrupt you here,
00:37:09.39\00:37:10.73
but I'm still thankful
that you mentioned we had a dad.
00:37:10.76\00:37:13.70
He made it very
clear, very plain.
00:37:13.73\00:37:16.10
I thought it big at 13 or 14.
00:37:16.13\00:37:18.37
He said, Kenny, mom
says you don't want to go,
00:37:18.40\00:37:20.30
you're not gonna go.
00:37:20.34\00:37:21.67
I said, that's right,
00:37:21.70\00:37:23.04
I'm not going in
gathering tonight.
00:37:23.07\00:37:25.17
I said, no I am
going-- Danny will tell you.
00:37:25.21\00:37:27.78
I want it make it plain
like he make it plain to us,
00:37:27.81\00:37:29.98
but he made it very
plain to me, you have...
00:37:30.01\00:37:32.18
There's two
options, which will it be?
00:37:32.21\00:37:34.28
And soon as he said
that, what did I say?
00:37:34.32\00:37:36.62
I will take
the... Take the whooping.
00:37:36.65\00:37:38.45
Kenny said, I'll
take the whooping.
00:37:38.49\00:37:39.82
I said I'll take the...
00:37:39.85\00:37:41.19
Think about
saying that to your dad.
00:37:41.22\00:37:42.56
I will take the whoop.
Well, you probably, you just--
00:37:42.59\00:37:43.93
When he used to
belt, it was no easy,
00:37:43.96\00:37:45.29
no little deal
when he used to...
00:37:45.33\00:37:46.66
He said take the
shirts off, boys.
00:37:46.70\00:37:48.06
Yeah, take the shirts off.
00:37:48.10\00:37:50.83
He would take the whooping,
me, I was running out the door.
00:37:50.87\00:37:54.50
No way.
00:37:54.54\00:37:56.24
And I would think to myself,
00:37:56.27\00:37:57.61
I'm four years
younger than Kenny.
00:37:57.64\00:37:58.97
And I think to myself I can
not believe he just said that.
00:37:59.01\00:38:01.64
My dad, you're not gonna
get the last word with him.
00:38:01.68\00:38:04.95
Kenny be quiet. All right.
00:38:04.98\00:38:06.82
No, I don't want to
hear anymore from you, okay.
00:38:06.85\00:38:09.45
Not another word, just nothing.
00:38:09.48\00:38:11.92
All right, I won't.
00:38:11.95\00:38:13.29
And then pretty soon,
okay, get over here, son,
00:38:13.32\00:38:15.46
you know, he
would work him over.
00:38:15.49\00:38:18.09
And I'm like...
00:38:18.13\00:38:19.46
So he goes to the
army and my mom said,
00:38:19.49\00:38:22.46
boy, I'm glad you will get
that strong will out of him,
00:38:22.50\00:38:24.90
they will break him there.
00:38:24.93\00:38:26.40
Every weekend he would call
00:38:26.43\00:38:27.77
and I would say,
"How's Kenny doing?
00:38:27.80\00:38:29.14
She said, he's doing KP.
00:38:29.17\00:38:31.91
I'll tell you why.
Well, he's smart enough.
00:38:31.94\00:38:34.28
He was smart
enough to his superiors
00:38:34.31\00:38:36.34
and so they had
him clean them barracks
00:38:36.38\00:38:37.98
and doing things on
weekends instead of going.
00:38:38.01\00:38:41.08
But what she hadn't realized,
00:38:41.12\00:38:42.45
see men couldn't
break him, but God can.
00:38:42.48\00:38:44.35
Amen. That's right.
00:38:44.39\00:38:45.72
But it was because
when he became willing.
00:38:45.75\00:38:47.79
Amen. So that's the thing.
00:38:47.82\00:38:49.16
All of us in our lives,
00:38:49.19\00:38:50.53
you know, we
have different things.
00:38:50.56\00:38:52.03
I had other problems
and things in my life.
00:38:52.06\00:38:54.30
Kenny was one of those,
you just not gonna tell him
00:38:54.33\00:38:56.00
what to do.
00:38:56.03\00:38:57.37
And end result, when I
knew my dad was getting ready
00:38:57.40\00:39:00.24
to give me whooping.
00:39:00.27\00:39:01.90
As soon as he raised
the belt I started crying
00:39:01.94\00:39:04.87
because what he would
do, he would give you this
00:39:04.91\00:39:08.38
and it take your
breath and he'd say,
00:39:08.41\00:39:09.94
you're gonna do it anymore.
00:39:09.98\00:39:11.31
And if you don't answer,
00:39:11.35\00:39:12.68
oh, you're not gonna
answer me so you will get more.
00:39:12.71\00:39:14.88
So I was already, I'm
not gonna do it anymore.
00:39:14.92\00:39:17.69
As he was coming down
Kenny would just stand like this
00:39:17.72\00:39:20.86
and take it and not say a word.
00:39:20.89\00:39:22.89
And I'm like, man, Kenny just...
00:39:22.92\00:39:24.59
He will quit if you will
just do that, strong will.
00:39:24.63\00:39:27.00
But, you see the
devil had a plan.
00:39:27.03\00:39:29.00
The devil's plan was to
destroy you to use that,
00:39:29.03\00:39:33.03
but look, look how
defeated the devil is now
00:39:33.07\00:39:35.57
because all of that,
that strength and strong will,
00:39:35.60\00:39:39.21
you use them for the Lord now.
00:39:39.24\00:39:40.58
Because you're not...
00:39:40.61\00:39:41.94
Kenny is not discouraged
when it comes to ministry.
00:39:41.98\00:39:44.71
No matter what
he's gonna be out there
00:39:44.75\00:39:46.92
and talk about knocking on doors
00:39:46.95\00:39:48.95
or visiting people or preaching
00:39:48.98\00:39:50.89
or traveling anywhere
in the world, you ask him.
00:39:50.92\00:39:53.42
I've got him to go to
Africa for me, everything else.
00:39:53.46\00:39:57.56
That's love. That's real love.
00:39:59.16\00:40:02.23
So I asked him to go.
00:40:02.26\00:40:03.70
Once he went, the
next time he asked me,
00:40:03.73\00:40:05.53
I asked my cousin
Donnie and he went.
00:40:05.57\00:40:07.37
Next time he asked me,
00:40:07.40\00:40:08.74
I asked my brother
Ronnie and he went.
00:40:08.77\00:40:10.24
So you know it's
one of those things,
00:40:10.27\00:40:11.87
but, but look at
what happens now.
00:40:11.91\00:40:14.14
You see, you take
all of that that's in us
00:40:14.18\00:40:16.41
when we were young.
00:40:16.44\00:40:17.81
And now he's given all of that.
00:40:17.85\00:40:20.05
So that same perseverance,
00:40:20.08\00:40:21.88
so if you think
you're up against somebody
00:40:21.92\00:40:24.05
that's gonna be
discouraged by somebody
00:40:24.09\00:40:25.75
in church standing up, said,
I don't liked what you said
00:40:25.79\00:40:28.62
or I don't like what you do.
00:40:28.66\00:40:30.06
Right, Chris, that's
just gonna roll off your head
00:40:30.09\00:40:32.46
because he says, you
know, now I'm in God's army.
00:40:32.49\00:40:35.46
So now I'm not worried about it
00:40:35.50\00:40:37.57
because it's not about me.
00:40:37.60\00:40:39.03
So it's tremendous what
God can do for each of us,
00:40:39.07\00:40:42.90
you know, in our lives.
00:40:42.94\00:40:44.31
But growing up, you
know, I loved the worship time,
00:40:44.34\00:40:46.44
but I was one of these, I
was the happy-go-lucky kid.
00:40:46.47\00:40:49.21
And my dad used to
say, people come in
00:40:49.24\00:40:51.15
and they will say, is
he like that all the time?
00:40:51.18\00:40:53.18
He'd say, oh, he's just
happy as if he had good sense,
00:40:53.21\00:40:55.72
you know, and I
would be over there
00:40:55.75\00:40:57.59
playing and folks come in.
00:40:57.62\00:40:59.72
He would say, well, you
can tell by his little face
00:40:59.75\00:41:01.42
he's not all right, you know.
00:41:01.46\00:41:03.19
And my dad, I was
hoped it was sense of humor,
00:41:03.22\00:41:06.19
maybe it wasn't all this time.
00:41:06.23\00:41:07.60
I just chose to think it was.
00:41:07.63\00:41:09.56
You know, but
we had a fun house,
00:41:09.60\00:41:12.10
it was a good
household, but here's the deal.
00:41:12.13\00:41:14.60
My dad said, Jason, boys,
00:41:14.64\00:41:17.07
we can do this the
easy way or the hard way.
00:41:17.11\00:41:20.04
You got four boys in six years.
00:41:20.08\00:41:21.91
You can do there's stair steps.
00:41:21.94\00:41:23.81
We can do this the
hard way or the easy way?
00:41:23.85\00:41:26.48
Now he would say, take me.
00:41:26.51\00:41:27.85
I'm a lover not a fighter,
00:41:27.88\00:41:29.38
but if you make
me I will be fighter
00:41:29.42\00:41:31.19
and you will be
loser, you will lose.
00:41:31.22\00:41:33.02
So now why don't we just
love each other and get along.
00:41:33.05\00:41:36.29
I'm the head of the household.
00:41:36.32\00:41:37.83
God set it up that way.
00:41:37.86\00:41:39.49
When you get growing you can
be the head of your household,
00:41:39.53\00:41:41.86
but right now what I
say goes in this house.
00:41:41.90\00:41:44.60
And it will go.
00:41:44.63\00:41:46.23
So if you want to fight
about it, I'm gonna win.
00:41:46.27\00:41:49.07
But if you don't, if
you will listen to me
00:41:49.10\00:41:51.07
and he would say, I'm
not doing this for me,
00:41:51.11\00:41:53.27
I'm doing this for you
00:41:53.31\00:41:54.64
because I don't want
you to end up in trouble.
00:41:54.68\00:41:56.78
I don't want you to
end up out in the world.
00:41:56.81\00:41:59.08
So the Bible tells me
what I'm supposed to do.
00:41:59.11\00:42:01.55
So I'm gonna do
everything I can do.
00:42:01.58\00:42:03.45
When you get 18 he said,
you can choose on your own.
00:42:03.49\00:42:05.92
Which way you want to go?
00:42:05.95\00:42:07.56
But all of that, that sometimes
00:42:07.59\00:42:09.29
it seemed little
hard on us at the time,
00:42:09.32\00:42:11.49
that's all been a blessing
00:42:11.53\00:42:12.96
because there is a
foundation given there
00:42:12.99\00:42:15.23
that we never give up.
00:42:15.26\00:42:16.87
I never thought to give up
00:42:16.90\00:42:18.23
in the things I've
been through my life.
00:42:18.27\00:42:20.37
He would always say,
00:42:20.40\00:42:21.74
whatever, anybody
else can do, you can do.
00:42:21.77\00:42:24.01
Then he would say,
you can do it even better,
00:42:24.04\00:42:26.01
you know, whatever they can do.
00:42:26.04\00:42:27.61
So whatever you do,
do it with all your mind.
00:42:27.64\00:42:29.88
We play ball, do
it with all your mind.
00:42:29.91\00:42:31.81
If we're working, do
it with all your mind.
00:42:31.85\00:42:34.05
If you are in ministry,
do it with all your mind.
00:42:34.08\00:42:36.85
And so that's what
we learned growing up.
00:42:36.89\00:42:38.82
Yes, absolutely.
00:42:38.85\00:42:40.19
In our household,
our folks were country,
00:42:40.22\00:42:42.22
western for a bit.
00:42:42.26\00:42:43.59
My mother used to
say, now remember,
00:42:43.63\00:42:44.96
I only played a
few months in tavern,
00:42:44.99\00:42:46.83
so don't hit that too heavily.
00:42:46.86\00:42:49.46
But they did country
music and made a living
00:42:49.50\00:42:51.87
and they both had
8th grade education
00:42:51.90\00:42:54.04
and didn't really, you know,
00:42:54.07\00:42:55.40
so they were able to make some
money singing in the late '40s
00:42:55.44\00:42:58.61
and all of that.
00:42:58.64\00:42:59.97
But when they became Christians,
00:43:00.01\00:43:01.34
of course, they quit that.
00:43:01.38\00:43:02.71
And what I saw was,
00:43:02.74\00:43:04.08
there's times
when we didn't know,
00:43:04.11\00:43:05.45
my father had a heart
attack, he was disabled.
00:43:05.48\00:43:07.78
We didn't know where the
next dollar was coming from,
00:43:07.82\00:43:10.72
where the food was coming from.
00:43:10.75\00:43:12.25
And I remember
people knocking on his door.
00:43:12.29\00:43:15.02
And they would
knock on the door,
00:43:15.06\00:43:16.39
Tom, how are you
doing? I'm doing fine.
00:43:16.42\00:43:18.19
Listen, I know that
you're a Christian now
00:43:18.23\00:43:20.83
and you don't
play out in the clubs,
00:43:20.86\00:43:22.23
but if you will
come this Friday night
00:43:22.26\00:43:24.83
and just play one time
00:43:24.87\00:43:26.23
and they would
give me like a $100.
00:43:26.27\00:43:27.77
Back then he
didn't make $100 a month.
00:43:27.80\00:43:30.54
And so he would
say, we'll give you $100
00:43:30.57\00:43:32.97
if you will just come.
00:43:33.01\00:43:34.58
And my dad, I
heard him one night.
00:43:34.61\00:43:36.44
I don't know who the man was.
00:43:36.48\00:43:38.01
And he said, boys,
00:43:38.05\00:43:39.38
I told you I can't do
that, I'm a Christian.
00:43:39.41\00:43:41.45
I don't believe in going
out in the clubs anymore.
00:43:41.48\00:43:43.82
And one of them said to him,
well, wait, then the Bible say,
00:43:43.85\00:43:46.15
you're supposed to
take care of your family.
00:43:46.19\00:43:47.96
You're not able to work.
00:43:47.99\00:43:49.89
You guys are having rough go.
00:43:49.92\00:43:52.03
Don't you think this
would be okay with the Lord
00:43:52.06\00:43:54.80
because you can now
take care of your family,
00:43:54.83\00:43:56.73
you are supposed to.
00:43:56.77\00:43:58.10
And my dad said, you know what,
00:43:58.13\00:43:59.47
I'll just trust God to do that.
00:43:59.50\00:44:00.84
He said, I'll trust
God and he didn't go.
00:44:00.87\00:44:02.70
You think we don't notice that.
00:44:02.74\00:44:04.87
Do you think?
00:44:04.91\00:44:06.34
Yes. I do. That's right.
00:44:06.37\00:44:08.04
Praise the Lord.
That's right. Yes.
00:44:08.08\00:44:10.61
Those were the
things that you notice.
00:44:10.65\00:44:12.51
It's not what people
say, it's what they do.
00:44:12.55\00:44:15.18
And you know that
Danny, while you said that,
00:44:15.22\00:44:16.92
but it makes me
said knock on the door.
00:44:16.95\00:44:19.05
He refused to take
that easy pay-check.
00:44:19.09\00:44:22.52
He refused to go against
what God has said in His word,
00:44:22.56\00:44:26.33
even when there was
no food in the house.
00:44:26.36\00:44:30.57
But let me tell you
that very next evening,
00:44:30.60\00:44:32.53
I remember that you tell him.
00:44:32.57\00:44:34.14
The very next evening there's
a knock on the door again.
00:44:34.17\00:44:37.64
Who is it?
00:44:37.67\00:44:39.17
But a friend, two
bags of groceries.
00:44:39.21\00:44:42.44
Come on now.
00:44:42.48\00:44:43.81
Two bags of groceries
and said, you know what?
00:44:43.85\00:44:45.71
We had so much extra,
00:44:45.75\00:44:47.08
we didn't really
know what to do with it
00:44:47.12\00:44:48.55
and we thought,
you know, the Sheltons
00:44:48.58\00:44:49.92
and they got several boys
00:44:49.95\00:44:51.29
and they really
having a hard time
00:44:51.32\00:44:52.65
and we just felt like, we
didn't say even in prayers,
00:44:52.69\00:44:55.46
we just felt like
we needed to bring it.
00:44:55.49\00:44:58.66
And it just, it
was exactly on time,
00:44:58.69\00:45:00.96
it's showing us once
again even in our little minds.
00:45:01.00\00:45:04.40
Dad did the right thing.
00:45:04.43\00:45:05.90
The blessings came.
00:45:05.93\00:45:07.54
Every time they
did the right thing,
00:45:07.57\00:45:09.87
the blessings came.
00:45:09.90\00:45:11.37
Day in and day
out, we saw it happen.
00:45:11.41\00:45:13.68
We see mom on her
knees pleading with God
00:45:13.71\00:45:16.08
sometime to meet
some needs in the home.
00:45:16.11\00:45:19.28
We'd see that...
00:45:19.31\00:45:20.65
I call her prayer
warrior, I always did.
00:45:20.68\00:45:23.25
There's a gift people pray
and just things would happen.
00:45:23.28\00:45:26.92
And those things
would always be met
00:45:26.96\00:45:28.89
because they chose
to do the right thing.
00:45:28.92\00:45:31.59
Yeah. Sorry.
00:45:31.63\00:45:33.56
I read a devotional about Elisha
00:45:33.60\00:45:35.83
and his ridiculous faith.
00:45:35.86\00:45:37.53
This man is
full of faith, right?
00:45:37.57\00:45:40.17
And it's stated in
there that sometimes
00:45:40.20\00:45:42.74
you have to leave your
security to reach your destiny.
00:45:42.77\00:45:47.01
And so in a sense,
that's what your father did.
00:45:47.04\00:45:50.55
I mean, he didn't
compromise his morals
00:45:50.58\00:45:53.11
or his principles
or Biblical principles
00:45:53.15\00:45:55.28
and he stood firm
on the word of God.
00:45:55.32\00:45:57.92
And then each time you
guys received the blessing.
00:45:57.95\00:46:00.36
Amen. And over and over.
00:46:00.39\00:46:02.42
And what a principle,
00:46:02.46\00:46:04.09
what a lesson for
whoever living in this time,
00:46:04.13\00:46:07.20
in this world's history
00:46:07.23\00:46:08.80
because truth has become
air and air is becoming truth.
00:46:08.83\00:46:13.20
And so the enemy
is coming up to us
00:46:13.23\00:46:15.64
and calling immoral
acts, you know, civil rights.
00:46:15.67\00:46:18.94
And how can you as a Christian,
00:46:18.97\00:46:20.74
if you are a
Christian, how can you say that,
00:46:20.78\00:46:22.61
how can you do that,
how can you not da-dah-da?
00:46:22.64\00:46:25.51
And so we're going to be faced
with those very same temptation
00:46:25.55\00:46:29.88
just on a different level.
00:46:29.92\00:46:31.59
You know, we're told
many will be put in prison,
00:46:31.62\00:46:34.22
many will-You know,
00:46:34.26\00:46:35.59
before it's over
there will be put to death.
00:46:35.62\00:46:36.96
Do we love God enough?
00:46:36.99\00:46:38.53
Do we trust Him
enough with our life?
00:46:38.56\00:46:40.96
He trusted.
00:46:41.00\00:46:42.33
Your dad trusted Him enough
to provide for the family.
00:46:42.36\00:46:45.47
Do we trust Him enough to
do that again in our lifetime?
00:46:45.50\00:46:49.57
Even onto death...
Could we say, could we say...
00:46:49.60\00:46:52.24
I'd say, I never
thought of this way before.
00:46:52.27\00:46:54.98
And being such a poor family
00:46:55.01\00:46:56.64
we had an edge in
the Christian walk
00:46:56.68\00:47:00.22
because we saw
faith in operation.
00:47:00.25\00:47:04.09
We saw when it was impossible
with man, time and time...
00:47:04.12\00:47:07.49
Not just one time,
00:47:07.52\00:47:08.86
time and time
again in our whole life,
00:47:08.89\00:47:11.46
day after day,
month after month,
00:47:11.49\00:47:13.96
we saw God do the
impossible with man
00:47:14.00\00:47:16.73
through the answer of
prayer and obedience every time.
00:47:16.77\00:47:20.34
So I look at
that now first time.
00:47:20.37\00:47:22.80
I'm getting old in my life,
and I'm saying I look that now,
00:47:22.84\00:47:25.17
that was an edge.
00:47:25.21\00:47:27.21
It was in the nice way
because we had godly parents
00:47:27.24\00:47:31.05
that helped to increase our
faith because we've seen God...
00:47:31.08\00:47:34.25
But other people may not
have that opportunity, we had
00:47:34.28\00:47:36.99
and I thank God for that.
00:47:37.02\00:47:38.35
See his well planning.
00:47:38.39\00:47:39.72
That's a
beautiful thought. Yeah.
00:47:39.75\00:47:41.09
Absolutely. Wow.
00:47:41.12\00:47:42.46
You know and a lot of people
we go by how the Bible says,
00:47:42.49\00:47:45.06
man looks on the
outward appearance,
00:47:45.09\00:47:46.43
God looks on the heart.
00:47:46.46\00:47:48.00
And I guess one of the
toughest things in the world
00:47:48.03\00:47:50.50
is not to judge other
people and them judging you.
00:47:50.53\00:47:53.50
And somehow what I'm
trying to learn to do is,
00:47:53.54\00:47:56.60
live in the spiritual.
00:47:56.64\00:47:58.04
In the spiritual, you
are not looking at physical
00:47:58.07\00:48:00.78
and in the spiritual,
you don't get discouraged.
00:48:00.81\00:48:03.45
In the physical
world, you get discouraged.
00:48:03.48\00:48:06.82
But in the spiritual,
00:48:06.85\00:48:08.18
you can see a far off as He did
in Hebrews 11th chapter, right?
00:48:08.22\00:48:11.35
We're strangers
here just so adjourners.
00:48:11.39\00:48:13.72
And so I want to
encourage you today,
00:48:13.76\00:48:16.19
as take time to worship God.
00:48:16.22\00:48:17.76
You're worshiping every day,
00:48:17.79\00:48:19.13
but the Seventh-day
Sabbath He says, come apart,
00:48:19.16\00:48:21.56
this is it's 24
hour period He gives us,
00:48:21.60\00:48:24.43
that He wants to
spend time with you
00:48:24.47\00:48:25.97
and worship your Creator.
00:48:26.00\00:48:27.90
Just spend time.
00:48:27.94\00:48:29.27
And it's not,
it's not how you do it.
00:48:29.30\00:48:31.11
Some people say,
well, I'd love to sing.
00:48:31.14\00:48:32.81
I can't sing like Yvonne.
00:48:32.84\00:48:34.51
You know I'd love
to preach like Kenny,
00:48:34.54\00:48:35.94
I can't preach like Kenny.
00:48:35.98\00:48:38.65
God inhabits the
praises of His people.
00:48:38.68\00:48:40.65
So whatever the best you
have, that's what you offer Him
00:48:40.68\00:48:45.15
because what it
occurred to me today,
00:48:45.19\00:48:48.09
I never thought about that see.
00:48:48.12\00:48:51.13
When you, at
home, maybe you can...
00:48:51.16\00:48:53.09
Jason, you say you don't sing.
00:48:53.13\00:48:54.50
I haven't really heard you,
00:48:54.53\00:48:55.86
but Jason says, your
mom, kind of, confirms it.
00:48:55.90\00:48:58.13
So I...
00:48:58.17\00:48:59.50
I love you, son, I love you.
00:48:59.53\00:49:01.50
But you have
many talents, but...
00:49:01.54\00:49:03.81
No, no, But guess what, I
want to encourage you today
00:49:03.84\00:49:06.37
and everybody like this because
what just occurred to me,
00:49:06.41\00:49:09.54
I never had, Kenny,
00:49:09.58\00:49:11.11
that whether it's
Yvonne Lewis singing
00:49:11.15\00:49:14.22
or when the great
Whitney Houston was singing,
00:49:14.25\00:49:16.95
that you used to sing
with or whether it's Jason.
00:49:16.99\00:49:20.46
If you are singing to
God, God only hears the heart.
00:49:20.49\00:49:23.73
That he's not
impressed by voice.
00:49:23.76\00:49:25.99
He's not impressed by voice,
00:49:26.03\00:49:27.56
He's not impressed by the
Whitney Houston's of this world
00:49:27.60\00:49:30.40
or Yvonne Lewis's
or the Wintley Phipps,
00:49:30.43\00:49:33.13
that doesn't impress
Him because He's probably,
00:49:33.17\00:49:36.44
the angels are like, boy,
I'd be glad to get to heaven.
00:49:36.47\00:49:38.64
They are out of tune.
00:49:38.67\00:49:40.01
So we're out of tune.
00:49:40.04\00:49:41.58
You know, but they
are doing the best.
00:49:41.61\00:49:43.51
The best singers that we
have, that means nothing to God.
00:49:43.55\00:49:47.08
God is hearing
you from your heart.
00:49:47.12\00:49:49.42
So He inhabits the
praises of His people.
00:49:49.45\00:49:51.99
So when you are praising God,
00:49:52.02\00:49:54.02
worshiping God and
do it in anyway that,
00:49:54.06\00:49:56.56
you know how to do it.
00:49:56.59\00:49:58.23
It doesn't have to
say, I'm pretty to hear you.
00:49:58.26\00:49:59.86
Now I'm not telling you to go
00:49:59.89\00:50:01.43
and to sing in
ministry if you can, right?
00:50:01.46\00:50:04.13
Because it's gonna hurt
00:50:04.17\00:50:05.50
other people's
ears, maybe, right?
00:50:05.53\00:50:06.87
So have mercy on them.
00:50:06.90\00:50:08.47
But, yeah, in just
occasion thinking about it,
00:50:08.50\00:50:11.24
I'm not telling you to
go out and sing or anything.
00:50:11.27\00:50:14.04
I was thinking about
going and recording an album,
00:50:14.08\00:50:16.28
right after this.
00:50:16.31\00:50:17.65
Well, let me make myself plain,
00:50:17.68\00:50:19.61
make myself clear.
00:50:19.65\00:50:21.48
No, but for all of
us what it is we can,
00:50:21.52\00:50:24.95
driving down the
road, you know, at home,
00:50:24.99\00:50:27.89
wherever you are,
just praise the Lord.
00:50:27.92\00:50:29.96
Amen. Yes.
00:50:29.99\00:50:31.33
You know, "Into my
heart, into my heart,
00:50:31.36\00:50:33.73
come into my heart, Lord Jesus."
00:50:33.76\00:50:36.73
Every time I get in
trouble, I start singing.
00:50:36.77\00:50:39.53
I start singing, I
start praising the Lord,
00:50:39.57\00:50:41.74
because when
you praise the Lord,
00:50:41.77\00:50:43.17
you are in the spiritual
and the physical will fly away.
00:50:43.20\00:50:47.28
I remember reading
in Spirit of Prophecy
00:50:47.31\00:50:49.21
that there is power when
you sing in the name of Jesus.
00:50:49.24\00:50:52.41
And one of my
daughters, one of our daughters
00:50:52.45\00:50:55.02
was really, really
sick, had a high fever,
00:50:55.05\00:50:57.32
wasn't throwing up.
00:50:57.35\00:50:58.69
I'd spent hours just
trying to call the doctor
00:50:58.72\00:51:01.82
and he said, well,
until such and such happens,
00:51:01.86\00:51:03.89
you know, just keep bathing her
00:51:03.93\00:51:05.63
and I finally remembered
about 2 o'clock in the morning
00:51:05.66\00:51:08.40
because I... what made me
think of it was him saying,
00:51:08.43\00:51:10.33
Jason couldn't sing
00:51:10.37\00:51:11.70
because I'm not that
great of a singer either.
00:51:11.73\00:51:13.70
But I remember
reading that there is power
00:51:13.74\00:51:15.74
in the name of Jesus,
00:51:15.77\00:51:17.11
just singing in
the name of Jesus.
00:51:17.14\00:51:18.81
About two in the morning,
I held that baby in my arm,
00:51:18.84\00:51:21.78
she had 104, 105
fever and I began to sing.
00:51:21.81\00:51:26.38
Within 30 seconds,
the fever was gone. Amen.
00:51:26.41\00:51:31.05
She was asleep,
everything changed.
00:51:31.09\00:51:34.69
There is power when you
sing in the name of Jesus.
00:51:34.72\00:51:38.43
That's proof
right there. Amen. Amen.
00:51:38.46\00:51:42.06
We used to sing
when we are at home
00:51:42.10\00:51:45.70
and Friday night's
worship we would do things like,
00:51:45.73\00:51:50.07
"Whisper our prayer,"
00:51:50.11\00:51:52.37
I play it like my dad used
to on the guitar, right, Kenny,
00:51:52.41\00:51:55.04
that's what he used to
play, all right, Yvonne.
00:51:55.08\00:51:57.05
Whisper a prayer in the morning
00:51:57.08\00:52:04.85
Whisper a prayer at noon
00:52:04.89\00:52:12.46
Whisper a prayer in the evening
00:52:12.49\00:52:19.60
So keep your heart in tune
00:52:19.63\00:52:26.44
God answers prayer.
00:52:26.47\00:52:27.94
God answers
prayer in the morning
00:52:27.98\00:52:35.55
God answers prayer at noon
00:52:35.58\00:52:42.92
God answers
prayer in the evening
00:52:42.96\00:52:49.96
So keep your heart in tune
00:52:50.00\00:52:55.07
Jesus may come.
00:52:55.10\00:52:58.21
Jesus may come in the morning
00:52:58.24\00:53:05.78
Jesus may come at noon
00:53:05.81\00:53:13.15
Jesus may come in the evening
00:53:13.19\00:53:20.26
So keep your heart in tune
00:53:20.30\00:53:27.90
Now just that little
bit, didn't that feel better?
00:53:27.94\00:53:29.90
I feel good.
00:53:29.94\00:53:31.27
Really, releasing that because
00:53:31.31\00:53:33.11
when you are
singing to the Lord,
00:53:33.14\00:53:35.08
you are not
worrying your payments,
00:53:35.11\00:53:36.44
you are not worrying about
00:53:36.48\00:53:37.81
everything else going on around.
00:53:37.85\00:53:39.18
You... that
somebody offended you, Jay.
00:53:39.21\00:53:41.32
People are going to
churches and they say,
00:53:41.35\00:53:43.15
well, I don't go to
church, I'll talk to people.
00:53:43.18\00:53:45.45
I don't go to church anymore
because so and so offended me.
00:53:45.49\00:53:48.89
And I always tell them
being offended is a choice.
00:53:48.92\00:53:51.43
That's right.
Nobody can offend you.
00:53:51.46\00:53:53.50
Are you gonna stand
before the Creator God and say,
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well, I quit
going to church, Lord,
00:53:55.80\00:53:57.13
because Brother
Jason offended me.
00:53:57.17\00:53:59.83
He beat me in basketball
and he bragged about it
00:53:59.87\00:54:02.24
and I'm offended by that.
00:54:02.27\00:54:04.04
You know, being
offended is a choice.
00:54:04.07\00:54:05.67
Why would I want
to allow somebody else
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to mess up my life
00:54:09.48\00:54:10.81
and my
relationship with the Lord?
00:54:10.85\00:54:12.71
We don't worry
about it, so we choose--
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I choose not to get offended.
00:54:14.42\00:54:15.75
So you all can say
want you want to say
00:54:15.78\00:54:17.52
but I'm not gonna
be offended about it
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and I hope you are not either.
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With you singing like that,
we might have to do it, do it.
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I have you on my album.
00:54:24.39\00:54:26.66
Thank you, Jay, I love it.
00:54:26.70\00:54:28.03
Last night and this morning,
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I don't even know if I can do it
00:54:29.43\00:54:30.77
so I'm gonna practice, Jay,
00:54:30.80\00:54:32.13
but I was just
thinking about worship
00:54:32.17\00:54:35.40
and I said, you know,
00:54:35.44\00:54:36.77
worship in the
Lord we don't have,
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it doesn't have
to be something big,
00:54:38.41\00:54:39.84
it doesn't have to be something.
00:54:39.87\00:54:41.38
I put together a little chorus,
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this may be the
only time it's ever sung.
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But still yet, for when
I was doing it last night
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and early this morning I
just felt so close to God
00:54:48.12\00:54:51.19
and I said thank you, Lord.
00:54:51.22\00:54:52.55
And it's just a little tune.
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I worship You, Oh, my Lord
00:54:56.26\00:55:02.13
I once was blind but now I see
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Because of You
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Oh, Kenny, we hardly do this.
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Yeah, now, come on now.
00:55:16.04\00:55:17.91
Bless our hearts.
00:55:17.95\00:55:19.45
I worship you, my Lord
00:55:22.32\00:55:28.19
Sometimes at home,
I literally will cry.
00:55:28.22\00:55:30.09
That's all right. Yeah.
00:55:30.13\00:55:31.46
I just get--
emotion comes over me
00:55:31.49\00:55:33.66
and I'm not
worried at this point,
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God inhabits the
praises of His people.
00:55:35.70\00:55:37.83
I worship you, Oh, my Lord
00:55:42.50\00:55:48.64
I once was blind but now I see
00:55:50.51\00:55:54.58
Praise the Lord.
Ain't that amazing?
00:55:54.62\00:55:56.12
We were once
blind but now we see...
00:55:56.15\00:55:59.65
Because of You
00:55:59.69\00:56:01.82
It's because of Jesus,
that's why we were all blind
00:56:01.86\00:56:05.59
but now we see it
only because of Jesus.
00:56:05.63\00:56:08.33
You are the Lily of the Valley
00:56:08.36\00:56:11.10
The Bright and Morning Star
00:56:11.13\00:56:14.40
Oh, I worship You
00:56:14.44\00:56:18.37
Oh, my Lord
00:56:18.41\00:56:21.91
Praise the Lord.
00:56:21.94\00:56:23.28
It was just a little
simple deal that you do
00:56:23.31\00:56:26.05
and I may never do this
again but just in doing it,
00:56:26.08\00:56:29.58
it drew me closer to Jesus.
00:56:29.62\00:56:30.95
Amen. Yes.
00:56:30.99\00:56:32.32
Isn't that amazing? It is.
00:56:32.35\00:56:33.69
God inhabits the
praises of His people.
00:56:33.72\00:56:35.09
We hope that you take
advantage of the opportunities
00:56:35.12\00:56:38.89
because if--
when we get to heaven,
00:56:38.93\00:56:40.60
we will never be
able to understand it
00:56:40.63\00:56:42.90
why the creation
could talk to the Creator,
00:56:42.93\00:56:47.54
and that He would
listen, that's the biggest deal.
00:56:47.57\00:56:50.87
And invite us to
do it. That's right.
00:56:50.91\00:56:52.67
He invites us to do it.
00:56:52.71\00:56:54.58
He gave all of heaven so
we could continue to do it.
00:56:54.61\00:56:58.05
He emptied all of heaven
00:56:58.08\00:57:00.22
so that we
could be one with Him.
00:57:00.25\00:57:02.35
Isn't that beautiful?
00:57:02.38\00:57:03.72
It's amazing. Thank you.
00:57:03.75\00:57:05.09
You know, there is also
a physiological component
00:57:05.12\00:57:07.42
to praise that neurologically
our brains change when we pray.
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And so if you are just
doing five minutes a week,
00:57:13.83\00:57:16.36
that's not gonna
make a big difference.
00:57:16.40\00:57:17.80
But if you are doing 40,
30, 40 minutes of prayer a day,
00:57:17.83\00:57:21.50
you can have
permanent brain changes.
00:57:21.54\00:57:25.14
And there is a book called
"How God Changes Your Brain."
00:57:25.17\00:57:27.91
It's in touch with heaven
00:57:27.94\00:57:29.28
and you are in touch with
heaven there is an energy.
00:57:29.31\00:57:32.08
Yes. Exactly.
00:57:32.11\00:57:33.45
The energy, that
energizes your mind.
00:57:33.48\00:57:34.82
There is nothing
like, you read this Bible,
00:57:34.85\00:57:36.18
it will energize the mind,
it will help you to memorize,
00:57:36.22\00:57:38.49
or help you do
all kind of things
00:57:38.52\00:57:39.95
that ordinary book will not
do because it's not ordinary.
00:57:39.99\00:57:42.82
It's the living
word. It's a living word.
00:57:42.86\00:57:44.66
Come on now. Oh,
I'm getting excited.
00:57:44.69\00:57:46.43
We have in church in
here. Just the opposite is true.
00:57:46.46\00:57:49.96
You stop praying,
you stop studying,
00:57:50.00\00:57:52.70
you know, give
yourself three days,
00:57:52.73\00:57:54.17
and all of a sudden that music
you didn't listen to anymore,
00:57:54.20\00:57:57.24
all of a sudden
you have a urgency
00:57:57.27\00:57:59.67
to want to turn that channel on.
00:57:59.71\00:58:01.71
Wow, our time is
just about all gone.
00:58:01.74\00:58:03.68
I looked up and
there is 30 seconds left.
00:58:03.71\00:58:05.95
What we like to do, Kenny,
00:58:05.98\00:58:07.32
we want to pray
with our viewers at home
00:58:07.35\00:58:09.08
and let's just go ahead,
00:58:09.12\00:58:10.45
we will go out praying today
and you go out praying with us,
00:58:10.49\00:58:13.15
if you would.
00:58:13.19\00:58:14.52
But draw close to Jesus
00:58:14.56\00:58:15.89
because He sure
wants to draw close to you.
00:58:15.92\00:58:17.63
Amen. Amen. What a privilege.
00:58:17.66\00:58:19.33
When we-- you at
home, just bow your heads,
00:58:19.36\00:58:21.33
if you will, you may
want to get on your knees.
00:58:21.36\00:58:22.70
Let's just pray. Shall we?
00:58:22.73\00:58:24.07
Merciful Father in heaven,
00:58:24.10\00:58:25.43
we thank You for
the privilege of prayer.
00:58:25.47\00:58:26.80
We thank You of being
part of the family of God.
00:58:26.84\00:58:28.80
We thank You for
this worship service,
00:58:28.84\00:58:30.84
service that we can
give praises unto You,
00:58:30.87\00:58:33.07
honor and glory that
deserves to You and You alone.
00:58:33.11\00:58:35.74
Thank You for Your love,
thank You for Your mercy,
00:58:35.78\00:58:37.78
thank You for those
of you who are viewing.
00:58:37.81\00:58:39.61
And we thank you
for the families.
00:58:39.65\00:58:40.98
We praise you and press them
00:58:41.02\00:58:42.35
to gather around
that family altar,
00:58:42.38\00:58:43.75
spend time
studying the Word of God.
00:58:43.79\00:58:45.52
Lord, we will always be
careful to give You praise,
00:58:45.55\00:58:47.56
give You honor and give
You glory because You are God.
00:58:47.59\00:58:50.69
You said, I'm coming soon,
00:58:50.73\00:58:52.06
help us to be
ready for that great day.
00:58:52.09\00:58:53.43
In Jesus name, amen.
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