I want to spend my
life mending broken people.
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I want to spend my
life removing pain.
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Lord, let my words
heal a heart that hurts,
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I want to spend my
life mending broken people.
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I want to spend my
life mending broken people
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Hello, I'm Shelley
Quinn, I'm JD Quinn
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we welcome you to 3ABN Today
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we are going on an
Incredible Journey today.
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We are very excited, let me
introduce our special guests
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we have Gary Kent who
is the Speaker/Director for
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the Incredible Journey
and his lovely wife Robin Kent
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who is the Producer of
Incredible Journey Media
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Ministry. These people
are from Down Under, Welcome.
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Pleasure to be
here, thank you so much.
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Thank you very
much, we're delighted.
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We're excited, how long
have you all been in the states
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now on this trip?
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On this trip? Three weeks.
So you are over your jetlag.
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So...So, we are looking
forward to this is the last stop
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on the trip. Your last
stop and you get to go home.
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It's always fun to go but it
it's even more fun to go home.
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[Laughter] Yes, always good.
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We will be speaking to them
about their exciting ministry
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but more than that,
their personal story so
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we know you are going to
be inspired but we also know
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you like music and we got
something to get us going. Yes.
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This is beautiful music and
its going to be played on a harp
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and it's Laura Paimiori.
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Thank you Laura
that was beautiful.
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Yes, "Be Though
My Vision" and He is.
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If you are joining
us just a moment late,
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we have Gary and Robin Kent
with us today from Australia
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and they have a ministry
called The Incredible Journey.
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Any time you have a
title like that for a ministry
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you know God has done something
already in their lives so
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let's just kind
of get to know you.
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Gary, we'll start with
you, did you grow up in a
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Christian home?
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I did, I grew up
in a missionary home,
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my parents were missionaries
for 13 years so we are
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immersed in a desire
to share the Good News
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so, yes, that's my heritage,
my journey, missionary home.
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When did it become more
than just a heritage, when did
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that personal relationship
with the Lord actually begin?
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Thirteen years in
Africa, after that I returned,
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my family returned to Australia
and we went, my sister and I
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went to Avondale College
and it was a time of adjustment,
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learning, I wanted to be
involved in sharing the gospel
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I did teaching, I did
Theology, Seminary work,
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but I still had doubts in
my mind and so after two years
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at seminary at college,
I decided to take a break.
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Then I traveled the
world, particularly Asia
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and was investigating Eastern
Religions wanting to be certain
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that I was following
truth. Went to Tibet,
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went to the Hindu Shrines
of India wanting to make sure
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so it was that experience
that confirmed in my own
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experience, my mind that Jesus
is the Messiah and He became
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King of my life and
it's never been the same.
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I am so grateful to Jesus
and all that He's done for me
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and I want to share that
Good News with as many people
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as I can. Amen and Amen!
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That's a beautiful story
and Robin, how about you?
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Yes, Shelley, I was also
born into a missionary home
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my parents left
Australia by boat back then
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and traveled to India and
then they caught the train
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up into the very northern
part of India in the foothills
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of the Himalayas where
it borders Tibet, Nepal,
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and Bhutan and they ran a
Christian Clinic there for
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years. In fact, I was born
there. Really, how interesting.
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So, it's rather
unusual for two missionary kids
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to be married to one another,
you both grew up in I'm assuming
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a Seventh-day-Adventist
Christian homes.
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How did you meet?
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We met at Avondale,
I came back from Africa
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Robin had been
studying back in Australia
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and we both went there to
learn to serve the Lord better.
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So Avondale is a Seventh-day-
Adventist University
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in Australia.
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Alright, you are the
Speaker/ Director for the
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Incredible Journey,
you are the Producer.
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Let's talk about what your
roles are, what you are doing...
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Tell us a little
about your ministry and your
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day-to-day life?
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Well, we work together on
producing television programs
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that are designed to
reach a secular audience.
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I love it. Our country,
Australia and it's a reflection
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what is happening in the
Western world is fast losing
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its Christianity,
its Christian heritage.
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In the last...just to give
you an idea what's happening
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down under, in the last
10, 15 years the percentage of
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Christians living in Australia
or practicing in Australia
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has reduced 20% from
60% down to below 40%.
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So, if this trend continues
within the next 20 years
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there will be hardly any
Christians left in Australia.
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And so Robin and I
feel a burden coming from
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Christian homes, missionary
homes I mentioned that we are
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MK's, missionary kids,
we're also PK's Pastor's kids.
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And so we've carried on
our family heritage, a desire
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to want to share the good
news of Jesus and in particular
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we want to reach the secular
audience, the fast-growing
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secular audience in our country.
The percentage of people
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who no longer
identify as Christians,
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no longer recognize Jesus
Christ as Savior and Lord.
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So that's what we do, we
produce television programs
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specifically designed to
reach people who would normally
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never attend a church service
or listen to a church sermon
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we've got to reach those people.
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There are more and
more of them around,
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not just increasing in
Australia but throughout Europe
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and I believe it's happening
right here in America as well.
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No doubt. No Doubt.
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Tell us what you
studied in Avondale,
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you had several
degrees, it's interesting?
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Well, I've studied
teaching, also, this is my
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primary focus is
Theology, the Bible.
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I've had a particular interest
in the field of Archeology
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particularly Biblical Archeology
and so after completing
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my Bachelor of Arts in
Theology I then studied further
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and traveled to America here
and then to the Middle East,
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Israel, Jordan, Egypt, and
studied Biblical Archeology
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where the Bible happened.
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Where all those stories
came from and I'm particularly
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interested in the evidence
that demonstrates that the
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Bible is trustworthy.
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And that Jesus is more
than just a fairy tale.
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Correct, correct. You
know it's interesting when we
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talk about secular, I would
say...United States is also
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becoming more secular but
in Australia there are people
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who do think of Jesus
as... They put Him in the same
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category as Santa Clause,
I mean they really have no
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understanding of Him.
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So you do like docu-dramas...
Do you write the scripts
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I assume, Gary? Robin and I
write the scripts, we also have
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some assistants, some
fellow writers that work with us
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on producing the scripts
because we try to do at least
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50 new programs every year.
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Wow. And so, and that's
just part of our responsibility
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These are 1/2 hour
television docu-dramas, yes.
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Love it. So it means
writing A lot of scriptwriting.
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A lot of work. We do most of it
ourselves, we get help as well.
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What is your
primary responsibility?
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Technically the producer which
means, I organize to make it
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happen. So all the logistics
involved in getting the
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scripts ready,
doing the research,
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where are we going to
go to film these scripts,
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how are we going to get there,
where are we going to stay,
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what permissions do we
need, and then through to
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how are we going to
illustrate this program?
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It's beautiful, we loved
working together as a couple
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and it's beautiful to
see that you all are as well.
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So, the Incredible Journey
is a faith-based ministry
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and it is a supporting ministry
of the Seventh-day-Adventist
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Church. Are you a 501
C3 non-profit? Yes, we are.
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Yes. I didn't know if that turn
if it waits Down Under but...
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So, what projects are
you currently involved with?
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Well, we've come to
America because great stories
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happened here. And we traveled
the world looking for stories
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and through those stories,
we introduce people to Jesus.
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The Bible and to Jesus and so
we're here filming a new series
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of programs. In the
past we've filmed programs on
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Abraham Lincoln, the assignation
of JFK, we've interviewed
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Dr. Ben Carson, we've
done a number of wonderful
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programs here based on
fabulous American stories.
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So, we are back doing some more,
we were stopped during Covid
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we couldn't film in America
during Covid so we're back here
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filming stories and we
found some marvelous stories
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that we have just
filmed, beautiful stories.
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We've done
Martin Luther King Jr.
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We've done the Tuskegee Airman,
we've done George Washington
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Carver and just great
stories, real American stories.
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And Desmond Doss.
Desmond Doss is another one
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that we've done, yes.
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That's beautiful and I think
you have...we have a video clip
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of some of these stories
that they are putting together
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and you can see the
quality of their production.
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It was in this seat that
Abraham Lincoln was fatally shot
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over 150 years ago in
Ford's Theater Washington DC.
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This is the window in
the Texas School Depository
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that changed history in
a dramatic terrible way.
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You get a clear view from
here down to Elm Street in the
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city of Dallas. Three,
two, one, zero, blastoff
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No one on planet earth was
there to see humanities greatest
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achievement.
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That's because it
didn't happen on planet Earth,
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it happened on the moon, it
was only seen through grainy
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television images beamed across
the distance of almost 400,00 km
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when Neil Armstrong
planted the first human step
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on the lunar surface.
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It began on the 21 of July,
1944. Allied Soldiers landing
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here at Asan Beach
on the Island of Guam.
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They had to take it back
from the Japanese soldiers
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firing with
machine guns and artillery.
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And yet one soldier would
make a name for himself by
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saving lives. He refused
to bear arms or carry a weapon
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in the midst of constant
enemy fire. He was unwilling to
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take a life or even so
much as touch a weapon.
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He did however say that
he would be proud to serve
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his country as a
medic, if they would let him.
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And we starting putting together
an amazing team of incredibly
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talented people and it
was an incredible, incredible
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operation. We ran out of blood
near the end of the operation
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that put aside 50 units
of blood, we ran out of blood
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people on the team were
volunteering their blood
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they were saying I'll lay
down, take my blood you know.
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Barry Black is a force for
integrity, goodness, reason,
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and compassion along
the corridors of power on
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Capitol Hill. Let's go and meet
him. Captain Black thank you
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for your invitation to the
Capitol Building and to meet
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in your office, it's a pleasure
to have you on our program
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today. I'm
delighted to be with you Gary.
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We're looking at this
big issue of depression. Yes.
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Today we want to look
at the solutions. Yes.
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That's the most exciting
part of this illness is that
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there is a solution, there
is a way out and I...one of the
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most rewarding things that I
do is put on treatment programs
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for those who have previously
thought that there was no way
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out. So what you're seeing there
is little snippets of their
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various Docu-Dramas kind
of put in together edited
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into one role. And it's exciting
to see that you're doing people
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like Ben Carson who is the
doctor that most people know and
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he's been very heavily
involved in politics but that
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you're getting these
stories that are so...
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Tell me this, you're telling the
story you're trying to reach a
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secular audience, so how do
you weave in the story of Jesus
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into these stories?
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Well of course the story
of Jesus is the greatest story
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ever told and it's the
story that brings hope,
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that brings peace, that
brings what we are really all
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searching for in our lives
and so there's always a way
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to bring Jesus
into any person's story.
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Anyone's life story
is a place for Jesus.
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And when you think
about it, we are all searching
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we're on a pilgrimage,
we're on an Incredible Journey
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and although a lot of
secular people don't realize it
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they too are searching to fill
the emptiness in their lives.
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As the theologians sometimes
say there is a God-shaped hole
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in every life.
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Because God has put
eternity Ecclesiastes tells us
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God has put eternity
into everyone's heart.
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And so we are all on
that search and so that story
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can be woven into any
story and that's what we do
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because we weave the story
of Jesus into all these programs
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that we've had a quick look
at the story of Jesus is there.
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I love it, I love it. So,
I'm going to call on you Robin.
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The Incredible
Journey, what a title,
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tell us how you
came up with this title.
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Well, the title was
actually Gary's idea.
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So, he will tell us
how it started from when
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he was a child in Africa.
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When we left Africa we decided
as a family that instead of
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flying home, we
would drive home.
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Which isn't easy when you
are in Africa trying to get to
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Australia, so instead of heading
south we bought a good old
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American Chevy truck, we
put a camper van on the back
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and we drove north in the
opposite direction to home.
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We drove right through Africa
through the steamy jungles of
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Equatorial Africa
through the Sahara Desert,
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this was a journey of a
lifetime, an incredible journey.
00:19:51.19\00:19:56.22
When we got through
Africa we made our way to London
00:19:56.26\00:20:00.30
and then we headed back
south or southeast to India
00:20:00.33\00:20:07.14
all in this old Chevy truck and
it was an incredible journey.
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And as we made that journey
one of the books that I read
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was one of the most popular
ever published in the English
00:20:15.44\00:20:18.51
or written in English language.
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It was written while in prison
by a prisoner by the name of
00:20:20.08\00:20:24.42
John Bunyan and sometime
later after reading that book.
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Pilgrim's Progress, Pilgrim's
Progress, and that is the story
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of each one of us, we
are on a pilgrim's journey,
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an incredible journey
from here to eternity.
00:20:39.83\00:20:42.97
So when we started
producing television programs
00:20:43.00\00:20:46.57
one of the first we did
was at Bedford in the prison
00:20:46.61\00:20:50.91
the story of John Bunyan.
00:20:50.95\00:20:52.98
Wonderful. And I realized
then hey, that's the story of
00:20:53.01\00:20:56.08
all of us so we
decided to call the ministry
00:20:56.12\00:20:59.85
named after Pilgrim's
Progress, An Incredible Journey
00:20:59.89\00:21:04.26
that we're all on
from here to eternity.
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Amen and amen! Hence
the name Incredible Journey.
00:21:07.76\00:21:10.83
I love it, I love it. You
know I think about you as PK's
00:21:10.87\00:21:16.04
missionary MK's, missionary
kids and pastor's kids.
00:21:16.07\00:21:21.61
Your father's probably
put up tents and used all
00:21:21.64\00:21:26.11
different things. How did
you know you were going to
00:21:26.15\00:21:29.38
come to media? You've preached
regular campaigns but what
00:21:29.42\00:21:33.86
made you decide on media?
00:21:33.89\00:21:35.62
Well we'd both grown up
in homes that were dedicated
00:21:35.66\00:21:41.83
to living and
sharing the gospel.
00:21:41.86\00:21:44.33
My grandfather was a
church planter so he traveled to
00:21:44.37\00:21:49.04
regions of Australia, some of
Australia's big regional centers
00:21:49.07\00:21:53.31
where there was not a
Seventh-day-Adventist Christian
00:21:53.34\00:21:57.01
in sight and he would go
down town, find an open place
00:21:57.05\00:22:01.98
in a park and he would pitch
a massive tent and then he would
00:22:02.02\00:22:06.39
advertise and invite people
to come and hear him preach
00:22:06.42\00:22:10.13
and so he was the sawdust trail.
00:22:10.16\00:22:12.69
My father followed in
his footsteps but instead of
00:22:12.73\00:22:16.23
pitching a tent, he would hire
the biggest theaters in town
00:22:16.26\00:22:22.20
in the city or large sporting
stadiums and invite people
00:22:22.24\00:22:26.94
to hear the gospel.
00:22:26.98\00:22:28.34
I wanted to do something similar
but we soon discovered that
00:22:28.38\00:22:33.75
it is becoming more and
more difficult to attract people
00:22:33.78\00:22:38.02
to a venue. So
instead of bringing them to us
00:22:38.05\00:22:43.09
we decided to go to them.
00:22:43.12\00:22:44.93
Yeah. And one of the
most effective ways to do that
00:22:44.96\00:22:47.96
is through the media.
00:22:48.00\00:22:49.33
So we every week, we go
right into people's homes while
00:22:49.36\00:22:55.04
they're sitting in their lounge
chair watching a television
00:22:55.07\00:22:58.04
screen or their computer
screen or their phone screen
00:22:58.07\00:23:01.61
and we share the gospel
with them right in their home
00:23:01.64\00:23:05.58
where they are.
00:23:05.61\00:23:06.95
Amen! That's amazing. I
think they call them pioneers.
00:23:06.98\00:23:09.98
And your grandfather
was a pioneer? Correct.
00:23:10.02\00:23:14.69
Your father was a pioneer. Yes.
00:23:14.72\00:23:16.06
You're a pioneer. We
use a different medium,
00:23:16.09\00:23:19.26
but sharing the same message.
Amen. And media is a powerful
00:23:19.29\00:23:24.03
way to reach the masses, its
one of the most effective ways
00:23:24.07\00:23:27.84
to do that. And everybody
loves to go on location and see
00:23:27.87\00:23:33.27
A docudrama, it's something
that brings the story to life.
00:23:33.31\00:23:36.98
So, by the way, you can
watch The Incredible Journey
00:23:37.01\00:23:42.05
on 3ABN, they air on our
Parent Network as well as our
00:23:42.08\00:23:47.36
International Network and
if it's not on the schedule
00:23:47.39\00:23:51.89
on an hour that is convenient
to you, just download the 3ABN+
00:23:51.93\00:23:58.23
app, that's free and
then you can watch on demand.
00:23:58.27\00:24:02.30
And you can watch it on YouTube
as well or on the website.
00:24:02.34\00:24:06.88
And your website is: The
Incredible Journey, TIJ.tv.
00:24:06.91\00:24:12.35
That's wonderful. So you
are not only doing programs
00:24:12.38\00:24:17.09
in the United States obviously,
tell us about some of the
00:24:17.12\00:24:21.12
programs that you are really
putting your architectural
00:24:21.16\00:24:26.13
knowledge into place.
00:24:26.16\00:24:28.70
Well, as we say, we go
to... we literally go to the
00:24:28.73\00:24:33.80
ends of the earth to follow
up good stories that we can use
00:24:33.84\00:24:38.17
to share the gospel. So
we filmed on seven continents
00:24:38.21\00:24:42.38
and we filmed in
some wonderful places.
00:24:42.41\00:24:44.58
We recently filmed a program on
the story of Masada in Israel.
00:24:44.61\00:24:49.22
Inspiring stories and
maybe that's a clip we can
00:24:49.25\00:24:53.66
have a look at and see
how that program looks,
00:24:53.69\00:24:57.93
what it feels like and what
it was like filming that program
00:24:57.96\00:25:02.46
right on location on Masada.
Absolutely. Let's roll that.
00:25:02.50\00:25:07.40
Judea was ruled by Rome
2,000 years ago in the time of
00:25:12.44\00:25:16.34
Jesus of Nazareth. Even
then the people were chafing
00:25:16.38\00:25:20.25
under Roman rule,
their occasional small-scale
00:25:20.28\00:25:24.45
rebellions but they
were quickly crashed.
00:25:24.49\00:25:26.32
In AD 66 however, the Jewish
revolt fled into a full-scale
00:25:26.35\00:25:33.66
war that raged for four years
until the Roman General Titus
00:25:33.70\00:25:37.67
conquered Jerusalem, destroyed
the sacred temple and expelled
00:25:37.70\00:25:42.37
most of the
survivors from the country.
00:25:42.40\00:25:44.47
One outpost alone
held out against the Romans
00:25:48.98\00:25:52.65
it was the Fortress of Masada
built high above the Dead Sea
00:25:52.68\00:25:57.72
upon a barren
mountainous plateau.
00:25:57.75\00:26:00.52
One of the most heroic
incredible stories of all
00:26:00.56\00:26:05.93
history was played out here when
a small group of Jewish Zealots
00:26:05.96\00:26:10.03
defied the power of Rome.
00:26:10.07\00:26:12.13
It's a story that carries a
special message for us today.
00:26:12.17\00:26:16.44
Well, we've been to
Masada on a number of occasions,
00:26:22.54\00:26:25.08
it is an incredible story.
I look forward to seeing that,
00:26:25.11\00:26:28.28
though. So tell us about
some of the others that you are
00:26:28.32\00:26:32.49
doing. Well we filmed programs
in England on John Wesley,
00:26:32.52\00:26:36.86
on Martin Luther, in Germany,
we've filmed throughout the
00:26:36.89\00:26:41.16
Middle East, we filmed stories
as I mentioned to you I love
00:26:41.20\00:26:43.93
archeology and so we filmed
stories on the Dead Sea Scrolls
00:26:43.97\00:26:48.74
we filmed another on the
discovery of the Rosetta Stone.
00:26:48.77\00:26:52.34
The Wonders of Egypt, we find
that these are people who are
00:26:52.37\00:26:56.58
interested in today. And so we
use these themes, these stories,
00:26:56.61\00:27:02.82
to lead people to Jesus.
00:27:02.85\00:27:05.29
And you know, I love the stories
that you're talking about
00:27:05.32\00:27:08.62
on the Reformation because
nowadays most people have no
00:27:08.66\00:27:13.70
idea of what a Protestant really
is. It's amazing as we lose
00:27:13.73\00:27:19.43
sight of History, we forget
many of us are Protestants
00:27:19.47\00:27:24.21
who are watching...I'm a
Protestant, you're a Protestant,
00:27:24.24\00:27:27.88
we're all Protestants here.
But what are we protesting?
00:27:27.91\00:27:31.41
And that's the beauty of
bringing history back again in,
00:27:31.45\00:27:34.45
it's so that people can
understand what their doing
00:27:34.48\00:27:39.15
and prepare
themselves for the future.
00:27:39.19\00:27:41.36
And also what's important
is that most people are getting
00:27:41.39\00:27:44.26
where they don't want to read,
either they don't have the time
00:27:44.29\00:27:47.16
to read or they're not
interested and so it would...
00:27:47.20\00:27:50.27
We used to call it cliff notes,
I don't know what they use today
00:27:50.30\00:27:53.00
but here we can actually go
to video and you 'all have done
00:27:53.03\00:27:56.34
the major work and
you're hitting the major points.
00:27:56.37\00:27:59.17
JD we live in a visual world
and people want to see things
00:27:59.21\00:28:04.31
and that's the
world we live in today.
00:28:04.35\00:28:06.05
And so we got to meet people
where they are and as I say,
00:28:06.08\00:28:10.12
one of the most effective ways
to do that is through Media,
00:28:10.15\00:28:13.59
through television,
through the internet, and so on.
00:28:13.62\00:28:17.93
That's where people are, that's
what they are interested in
00:28:17.96\00:28:20.76
and we've got the
greatest story of all to tell
00:28:20.80\00:28:24.23
so let's tell it and
let's reach them. Amen and Amen!
00:28:24.27\00:28:28.67
You were saying when we
were talking in the Green Room
00:28:28.70\00:28:32.47
this was fascinating to
me, that when we talk about
00:28:32.51\00:28:36.14
Australia being a secular
society many of them have never
00:28:36.18\00:28:41.92
heard the basic
Bible Stories of History.
00:28:41.95\00:28:46.52
So, they don't know who
Daniel is, they don't know who
00:28:46.55\00:28:49.96
Abraham...even Moses. Well,
tell us about your Bible Stories
00:28:49.99\00:28:53.90
that you're doing?
00:28:53.93\00:28:55.26
So, we've realized that
people don't have the Biblical
00:28:55.30\00:28:58.40
foundations that
past generations have had,
00:28:58.43\00:29:01.70
fewer people are going to
church, they never hear those
00:29:01.74\00:29:04.24
stories and so we have
hired some of the biggest
00:29:04.27\00:29:09.14
Hollywood Movie Sets and
we've used those sets to tell
00:29:09.18\00:29:15.58
Bible Stories. Amen. And so
we've told the story of Joseph,
00:29:15.62\00:29:19.29
the story of Moses, we've
told the story of Abraham,
00:29:19.32\00:29:24.13
we're telling the story of
Daniel and we are re-enacting
00:29:24.16\00:29:28.90
these Bible Stories on
sets that are meaningful to the
00:29:28.93\00:29:34.40
secular mind, to secular
people who watch these movies.
00:29:34.44\00:29:38.17
And so for us, it's been a
privilege to tell Bible Stories
00:29:38.21\00:29:43.35
often in the land where
they actually took place.
00:29:43.38\00:29:47.02
But you go beyond just the
major character, you're doing
00:29:47.05\00:29:50.99
Bible re-enactments of various
things that have happened,
00:29:51.02\00:29:55.52
tell us about that.
00:29:55.56\00:29:56.89
So yes, we tell these
Bible Stories, we reenact the
00:29:56.93\00:30:00.10
story Joseph, the story of
Moses, the story of Abraham,
00:30:00.13\00:30:04.27
we bring those Bible
stories to life and people can
00:30:04.30\00:30:09.04
relate to them as they see
them re-enacted in real life.
00:30:09.07\00:30:12.81
Also the Fall of Jerusalem and
the...from the Fall of Jerusalem
00:30:12.84\00:30:20.08
to the Reformation, we've done
a whole series of those programs
00:30:20.12\00:30:23.75
as well. So, what
would a typical length be
00:30:23.79\00:30:26.52
of one of these documentaries?
00:30:26.55\00:30:28.19
One of these stories, so we've
just done one on...very recently
00:30:28.22\00:30:34.16
on the Fall of Jerusalem
so it's a three-part series
00:30:34.20\00:30:37.60
and it picks up the early
church after the Crucifixion
00:30:37.63\00:30:42.57
and Resurrection of
Jesus, what happened after that?
00:30:42.60\00:30:45.81
and so we lead into the Fall of
Jerusalem, a three-part series.
00:30:45.84\00:30:50.45
Yeah cause a lot of
people think it all stopped at
00:30:50.48\00:30:53.05
His Crucifixion you know
so I mean there is a History
00:30:53.08\00:30:57.15
and wow, there is a Reformation
up there so we jump to the sixth
00:30:57.19\00:31:01.39
1500s or 1600s but what
happened all before then?
00:31:01.42\00:31:04.99
Amen! So we tell that
story, the Fall of Jerusalem
00:31:05.03\00:31:08.60
how Christianity began to
spread throughout the world
00:31:08.63\00:31:12.77
and then how there was a
falling away from Bible truth.
00:31:12.80\00:31:15.74
So, we have another
series called The Game Changer.
00:31:15.77\00:31:20.31
Constantine the Great and
what happened during that period
00:31:20.34\00:31:24.41
of History, how Bible
truth was lost and led into the
00:31:24.45\00:31:27.92
Dark Ages and from there,
the story of the Reformation
00:31:27.95\00:31:32.35
the Waldesians, John
Wycliffe, and then from there to
00:31:32.39\00:31:36.66
John Hus or Jan Hus and
Martin Luther, and John Wesley.
00:31:36.69\00:31:42.26
And then we're getting
right through to our own period
00:31:42.30\00:31:47.54
of History you know for
John Wesley came here to America
00:31:47.57\00:31:50.64
and it was on the ship
over to America that he met the
00:31:50.67\00:31:55.74
Moravians and he heard
and understood the true gospel
00:31:55.78\00:32:01.78
for the first time,
the Good News of Jesus
00:32:01.82\00:32:04.65
became meaningful to
him. It happened here
00:32:04.69\00:32:07.46
on the way to America so
we are getting down to our
00:32:07.49\00:32:11.13
period of History now.
00:32:11.16\00:32:12.59
And you know for those of
you at home who...some of these
00:32:12.63\00:32:16.73
names may not be registering
with you. Who was John Hus?
00:32:16.77\00:32:20.50
Who are these
people? Who is John Wesley?
00:32:20.54\00:32:23.64
That's why you need to
watch The Incredible Journey.
00:32:23.67\00:32:27.28
You can watch it on 3ABN+
or you can go to TIJ.tv and
00:32:27.31\00:32:33.38
see these programs on demand
and let History come to life
00:32:33.42\00:32:39.52
because I'll tell you
what, we need to know History,
00:32:39.55\00:32:43.06
History does repeat itself
and we are beginning to...
00:32:43.09\00:32:46.96
I think we are beginning
to see a cycle of History
00:32:47.00\00:32:50.97
repeating itself and
that's going to be interesting.
00:32:51.00\00:32:54.30
Shelley, we also need to
remember that History really is
00:32:54.34\00:33:00.78
His story. Amen! It's the story
of Jesus in some shape or form
00:33:00.81\00:33:04.61
And so we try to...as we are
telling these great Historical
00:33:04.65\00:33:08.55
stories, as we are unearthing
things in the Middle East and
00:33:08.58\00:33:12.85
the field of Archeology.
His story, Jesus' story,
00:33:12.89\00:33:17.76
shines through each time. Amen!
00:33:17.79\00:33:20.63
The theme that keeps
coming up and this is what we're
00:33:20.66\00:33:23.83
talking about is
when we first started
00:33:23.87\00:33:26.30
we started talking about
the Good News of who? Jesus.
00:33:26.33\00:33:30.41
And you keep bringing that
up so it makes no difference
00:33:30.44\00:33:35.01
whether we are up here
and got Paul or Daniel.
00:33:35.04\00:33:38.31
or we're down here with Martin
Luther, we're still talking
00:33:38.35\00:33:42.95
about the Good News and that's
where we're going to continue
00:33:42.98\00:33:46.82
to go is that right?
00:33:46.86\00:33:48.19
Absolutely, let me tell
you something interesting.
00:33:48.22\00:33:50.93
We did a program on
NASA, rockets to the moon and
00:33:50.96\00:33:56.46
people said, how on earth
are you going to relate that
00:33:56.50\00:33:59.80
to the story of Jesus?
Well, what is interesting
00:33:59.83\00:34:03.24
is in that
program which is entitled
00:34:03.27\00:34:06.07
The Book That Went to The
Moon, the only book that's ever
00:34:06.11\00:34:10.41
gone to the moon is the Bible.
And it went on one of those
00:34:10.45\00:34:14.02
early Apollo Flights and it was
the first book that was taken
00:34:15.22\00:34:19.82
to the moon by a
group of Christians.
00:34:19.85\00:34:21.46
What a lot of people don't
realize is that many of those
00:34:21.49\00:34:25.06
pioneer astronauts
were Christians. Amen!
00:34:25.09\00:34:28.56
And when they went to
the moon, they wanted to take
00:34:28.60\00:34:31.83
the Bible with them and
they did. Amen! Praise God!
00:34:31.87\00:34:35.70
Great story, so even the story
of NASA, Space Exploration,
00:34:35.74\00:34:40.58
Rockets to the Moon, the
story of Jesus fits in there
00:34:40.61\00:34:46.45
perfectly. Now, I love how
multi-faceted your ministry is
00:34:46.48\00:34:51.62
we're talking about Docudramas,
Bible re-enactment, Bible Story
00:34:51.65\00:34:57.13
re-enactment, various historical
re-enactments but for the people
00:34:57.16\00:35:02.73
of Papua New Guinea who
do not read you all have done
00:35:02.76\00:35:06.94
something very
special, tell us about that.
00:35:06.97\00:35:09.67
We have a special burden for
people who cannot read or write.
00:35:09.70\00:35:14.21
And it's surprising how many
people there are on our planet
00:35:14.24\00:35:19.25
today who are unable to read or
write even in this modern age.
00:35:19.28\00:35:23.08
So we had to find a way
to reach them and so I've got
00:35:23.12\00:35:27.92
one of these special Bibles
that are very dear to my heart.
00:35:27.96\00:35:32.36
This is an audio
Bible and so we went to PNG,
00:35:32.39\00:35:39.53
Papua New Guinea up into
the Highlands where there are
00:35:39.57\00:35:44.01
people who can't read or
write and we translated and
00:35:44.04\00:35:47.74
put the Bible in audio
form on what we call a God Pod.
00:35:47.78\00:35:52.91
So it's an audio Bible
and here in their own language
00:35:52.95\00:35:57.85
the people of New Guinea
in Pigeon could listen to
00:35:57.89\00:36:02.02
the Word of God, they couldn't
read it but they could hear it.
00:36:02.06\00:36:06.06
We did the same in the Solomons,
we translated, we put the Bible
00:36:06.09\00:36:11.53
audio into their own language
and put it on one of these
00:36:11.57\00:36:16.40
God-Pods from Mega voice
and these 10's of thousands
00:36:16.44\00:36:21.68
of these God-Pods have
now been shared with people
00:36:21.71\00:36:25.75
and their villages
who cannot read or write.
00:36:25.78\00:36:28.58
We did the same in Africa with
some of our partner ministries.
00:36:28.62\00:36:32.55
We took the Word of God to some
of the most primitive people
00:36:32.59\00:36:38.69
on earth, the Kalahari
Bushmen for example who are now
00:36:38.73\00:36:43.30
able to hear the Good News
of Jesus in their mother tongue.
00:36:43.33\00:36:48.20
And what about the
Indigenous people of Australia?
00:36:48.24\00:36:52.34
Now that's another group
of people who are very dear
00:36:52.37\00:36:54.88
to my heart, people who
are struggling in today's
00:36:54.91\00:36:59.81
modern society, some of
them, making the adjustments
00:36:59.85\00:37:03.72
from...in some people's
understanding the stone age
00:37:03.75\00:37:08.66
to the 21st century in
just a few generations and
00:37:08.69\00:37:13.36
that's a big step to take.
00:37:13.40\00:37:14.80
It took us Europeans
or those of us who have a
00:37:14.83\00:37:18.07
European heritage, it took us
centuries, they've had to do it
00:37:18.10\00:37:21.57
in a very short period of
time so we love those people.
00:37:21.60\00:37:24.81
We call them the aboriginal
people first Australians,
00:37:24.84\00:37:28.18
Indigenous Australians and we've
produced a variety of programs
00:37:28.21\00:37:33.31
that will relate to
them, programs called
00:37:33.35\00:37:36.25
Along the Rabbit-Proof Fence,
The Girl Who Talked to The
00:37:36.28\00:37:40.92
Stars, these are Indigenous
people who found Jesus.
00:37:40.96\00:37:44.76
And we are telling their stories
because the Indigenous people
00:37:44.79\00:37:48.96
can relate to
those stories. Amen.
00:37:49.00\00:37:52.03
And that's what people
want is to have something that
00:37:52.07\00:37:55.17
they can respond to because
it it's relevant to their lives.
00:37:55.20\00:38:01.34
Now, tell us how the
ministry is affecting people?
00:38:01.38\00:38:06.28
I think you had Chris Rentell
somebody that you were going to
00:38:06.31\00:38:10.42
tell his story.
00:38:10.45\00:38:11.95
People often ask us who have
been reached by these programs?
00:38:11.99\00:38:15.92
Well, we travel across
Australia visiting churches
00:38:15.96\00:38:19.66
virtually every week and every
church we go to, new churches
00:38:19.69\00:38:24.23
there is someone who
will come up to us and say
00:38:24.27\00:38:26.37
hey, I first heard
about Jesus by watching
00:38:26.40\00:38:30.57
The Incredible Journey or
The Incredible Journey played
00:38:30.61\00:38:33.61
a part of my own
spiritual pilgrimage.
00:38:33.64\00:38:37.38
And very recently we met
the most amazing character
00:38:37.41\00:38:41.62
who came to us and said, Gary
I watched one of your programs
00:38:41.65\00:38:45.65
at two O'clock on a
Sunday morning, couldn't sleep
00:38:45.69\00:38:49.82
was upset, worried, concerned,
had no peace in my life
00:38:49.86\00:38:54.36
and I woke up, flipped the
television on and there I saw
00:38:54.40\00:38:58.43
you sharing the news of
Jesus and it affected me,
00:38:58.47\00:39:02.40
it made a difference to my life.
00:39:02.44\00:39:04.34
And he said I became a
Christian, a Seventh-day
00:39:04.37\00:39:07.94
Adventist Christian and he
said I've had the most amazing
00:39:07.98\00:39:14.25
experience. He said my
daughter was celebrating her,
00:39:14.28\00:39:17.35
I think it was her 30th
Birthday and so we decided to go
00:39:17.39\00:39:21.89
parachuting to celebrate
and so we drove down to the
00:39:21.92\00:39:26.23
Little Bush Airfield,
flew up three kilometers
00:39:26.26\00:39:30.77
into the heavens, the sky
and my daughter jumped out first
00:39:30.80\00:39:36.24
we each had an instructor jump
with us and so off she jumped
00:39:36.27\00:39:42.88
out of the plane
and then it was my turn,
00:39:42.91\00:39:45.05
he said I was very
afraid and we jumped out,
00:39:45.08\00:39:47.85
me and the instructor
and all went well, it was an
00:39:47.88\00:39:52.22
exhilarating experience until he
said, we realize the instructor
00:39:52.25\00:39:57.13
and I that our
parachutes weren't opening...
00:39:57.16\00:40:01.30
And so he said, there we
were falling three kilometers
00:40:01.33\00:40:04.50
without a parachute.
00:40:04.53\00:40:06.20
And so he
said...It was terrifying.
00:40:06.23\00:40:09.47
Tai..you didn't mention it
was a terrifying experience
00:40:09.50\00:40:13.61
but he said, in that
moment of desperation
00:40:13.64\00:40:18.38
he said I shared with my
instructor the story of Jesus.
00:40:18.41\00:40:23.49
He said we had a very short
time, I said give your life
00:40:23.52\00:40:26.49
to Jesus no matter what happens
everything will be alright then
00:40:26.52\00:40:31.63
as long as we
commit our lives to Jesus.
00:40:31.66\00:40:35.50
What happened was as they neared
the ground, that instructor
00:40:35.53\00:40:40.14
cushioned the fall of
Chris Rantell, now both of them
00:40:40.17\00:40:45.54
were seriously injured, the
instructor sadly didn't survive
00:40:45.57\00:40:50.65
the fall but Chris although
he was seriously injured
00:40:50.68\00:40:54.52
he was saved by his instructor.
00:40:54.55\00:40:57.35
And so, what a story of
sharing the Good News of Jesus
00:40:57.39\00:41:03.73
even in that death fall
so we went down to meet Chris
00:41:03.76\00:41:09.10
he shared his story, we
made a Doc-a drama, a television
00:41:09.13\00:41:15.30
program based on his story
of how the Good News of Jesus
00:41:15.34\00:41:20.58
has made a difference
to his life and also made
00:41:20.61\00:41:23.71
a difference to the life
of his instructor as they fell
00:41:23.75\00:41:27.32
to the ground. Imagine falling
three, that's about a mile
00:41:27.35\00:41:30.69
and a half for Americans,
a mile and a half without a
00:41:30.72\00:41:35.02
parachute and
surviving it. That's amazing.
00:41:35.06\00:41:39.59
Well! that's amazing.
00:41:39.63\00:41:41.36
And the reality is to go
back to The Incredible Journey
00:41:41.40\00:41:46.60
that seed was planted at
two O'clock in the morning
00:41:46.63\00:41:49.84
who would ever
guess? You know sometimes...
00:41:49.87\00:41:53.68
J.D. what we are finding is
that God can speak to our hearts
00:41:53.71\00:41:57.25
any time of the day. Yeah. Amen.
00:41:57.28\00:41:59.85
Even in the wee
hours of the morning.
00:41:59.88\00:42:01.68
The thing that is
capturing my attention is
00:42:01.72\00:42:04.75
well, let's go back to the
missionaries I mean you 'all are
00:42:04.79\00:42:07.72
missionaries and it just really
hit me yes you can sit here
00:42:07.76\00:42:11.49
and listen and listen to
the stories but then you've got
00:42:11.53\00:42:15.20
a small audio unit that
you're actually going to people
00:42:15.23\00:42:19.53
that have never
heard the Word before.
00:42:19.57\00:42:22.27
And then you are taking the time
being all be it missionaries
00:42:22.30\00:42:26.78
and translating into
their language so those seeds
00:42:26.81\00:42:30.48
are being planted and their
maybe people lots of places
00:42:30.51\00:42:33.01
that are jumping out of planes
that have stories to tell and
00:42:33.05\00:42:36.12
wonder, well why?
00:42:36.15\00:42:37.49
You know, what impresses
me sometimes as Christians
00:42:37.52\00:42:43.26
we're preaching to the choir.
We get to where we are focusing
00:42:43.29\00:42:48.76
our own membership or
preaching to the choir,
00:42:48.80\00:42:53.67
people who already know
and what we need to remember
00:42:53.70\00:42:58.27
Matthew 24:14 Jesus said,
that this gospel will go into
00:42:58.31\00:43:03.01
every nation around the world
and when you are talking about
00:43:03.04\00:43:07.82
people who have never heard
the Bible and you're thinking
00:43:07.85\00:43:09.88
of the Indigenous people
but we have secular societies
00:43:09.92\00:43:15.36
that are clueless. Many
who have never even heard and
00:43:15.39\00:43:20.20
you know we think... You are
talking going on in Australia
00:43:20.23\00:43:24.13
but we've had it happen
right here in United States
00:43:24.17\00:43:27.04
we interviewed a police
officer who was working with
00:43:27.07\00:43:32.31
gang members and he
went in and said these kids
00:43:32.34\00:43:36.11
they were 16 to 21, they
had never the name of Jesus,
00:43:36.14\00:43:43.35
they thought they evolved
from apes and he said as soon as
00:43:43.39\00:43:46.92
he told them the story of
creation and that they were
00:43:46.96\00:43:49.62
created in the image of
Jesus their attitudes changed.
00:43:49.66\00:43:53.16
So we take things for
granted, let me ask you,
00:43:53.19\00:43:56.90
what you've got to clip that,
we want to make sure we get in
00:43:56.93\00:44:00.70
that dead men do
tell tales. Tell us.
00:44:00.74\00:44:04.87
Well, there's an old
English saying "Dead men don't
00:44:04.91\00:44:09.38
tell tales". Well as we
have looked at the situation
00:44:09.41\00:44:15.32
in our society, we
want to let people know that
00:44:15.35\00:44:21.66
"Dead men do tell tales"
because archeologists go to work
00:44:21.69\00:44:26.83
and they dig up the
remains of ancient cities,
00:44:26.86\00:44:29.53
ancient civilizations
in the Middle East,
00:44:29.56\00:44:31.97
in the lands of the Bible.
00:44:32.00\00:44:33.54
These dead men that were
buried thousands of years ago
00:44:33.57\00:44:38.41
are demonstrating the
trustworthiness of the Bible.
00:44:38.44\00:44:43.88
Do you know that archeologists
have now discovered 50 Bible
00:44:43.91\00:44:48.55
characters can demonstrate that
they lived, that they were real
00:44:48.58\00:44:52.15
people, show where they
lived and how they lived?
00:44:52.19\00:44:55.22
Fifty Bible characters.
So they are unearthing them.
00:44:55.26\00:44:59.06
They are unearthing
their skeletal remains,
00:44:59.09\00:45:02.13
They're unearthing their homes,
they're unearthing their fields,
00:45:02.16\00:45:06.47
their work implements,
their palaces. And so,
00:45:06.50\00:45:11.77
we are producing, God
willing, a brand new series of
00:45:11.81\00:45:17.11
television programs
that are going to be shown on
00:45:17.15\00:45:20.82
national television
right across Australia
00:45:20.85\00:45:23.45
and we hope beyond Australia
demonstrating the hysteresis,
00:45:23.49\00:45:29.29
the trustworthiness of
the Bible and we are gathering
00:45:29.32\00:45:34.36
the support from some of our
leading Christian Archeologists.
00:45:34.40\00:45:39.20
Archeologists
professors in their field from
00:45:39.23\00:45:42.74
Andrews University,
Southern University, La Sierra
00:45:42.77\00:45:47.44
University, these are
men who are well respected in
00:45:47.48\00:45:52.18
archeological circles and we're
going to work together to remind
00:45:52.21\00:45:56.35
people that "Dead
men do tell tales".
00:45:56.38\00:45:59.15
So, it's a series of
archeological based programs
00:45:59.19\00:46:03.06
filmed on location in the lands
of the Bible, the lands of the
00:46:03.09\00:46:06.80
Middle East, Egypt,
Greece, Turkey, Syria, Israel,
00:46:06.83\00:46:12.10
to show that you
can trust the Bible.
00:46:12.13\00:46:16.14
Amen! I think we've got a video
clip of that we'd like to show.
00:46:16.17\00:46:19.57
This is the most
visited place on earth,
00:46:28.62\00:46:32.12
the Egyptian pyramids of Giza.
00:46:32.15\00:46:34.52
The only one of the seven
ancient Wonders of the World
00:46:34.56\00:46:38.43
that still exist today.
00:46:38.46\00:46:40.33
It was here at Rosetta near the
mouth of the Nile that one of
00:46:44.50\00:46:48.50
archaeologies
greatest discoveries was made
00:46:48.54\00:46:51.71
in fact one of the greatest
discoveries in all history.
00:46:52.01\00:46:55.94
Many archeologists are convinced
that the treasure found in
00:47:00.35\00:47:03.82
this area is more valuable
than all the gold and wealth
00:47:03.85\00:47:08.02
found in the ancient
tombs of kings and pharaohs.
00:47:08.06\00:47:11.13
It stands as a silent
witness to one of the greatest
00:47:16.80\00:47:21.00
civilizations to have ever
existed on planet earth, perched
00:47:21.04\00:47:25.04
on a mountain ribbed some
2,500 meters above sea level.
00:47:25.07\00:47:28.54
The mysterious city of Machu
Picchu is no longer occupied,
00:47:28.58\00:47:35.88
it's been empty for
nearly a half of a millennium.
00:47:35.92\00:47:37.25
Woo hoo, that's one I want
to watch, so this is something
00:48:34.11\00:48:37.15
you are working on now? We're
working on that at present, yes.
00:48:37.18\00:48:39.65
That is amazing. And we want
to talk about how you can become
00:48:39.68\00:48:46.76
involved with The
Incredible Journey.
00:48:46.79\00:48:48.99
People can pray for you,
they can go to your website,
00:48:49.02\00:48:51.73
tell...share a few things.
00:48:51.76\00:48:53.36
Well, first please pray
for us, we know that prayer...
00:48:53.40\00:48:58.70
we are taken to the throne
of God, the most powerful force
00:48:58.73\00:49:03.47
in the universe. We need prayer.
So people, if they remember us
00:49:03.51\00:49:08.58
in their prayers,
we will be so grateful.
00:49:08.61\00:49:10.65
They can share this information
the program with their friends
00:49:10.68\00:49:14.72
their family, their
relatives, their workmates,
00:49:14.75\00:49:17.75
they can tell people
about The Incredible Journey
00:49:17.79\00:49:21.62
and how they can watch it.
00:49:21.66\00:49:23.02
Then also we're a faith-based
ministry so they may wish to
00:49:23.06\00:49:27.03
support us in whatever way they
can and we're always grateful
00:49:27.06\00:49:31.03
for that support. Amen!
00:49:31.07\00:49:33.00
And I want to just ask
you a quick question Robin,
00:49:33.03\00:49:38.14
You grew up a Christian,
you gave your heart to the Lord
00:49:38.17\00:49:40.98
and I love...I asked her
when did it become real for you?
00:49:41.01\00:49:44.31
And she said I can't
give you a date, it was a
00:49:44.35\00:49:46.78
progressive thing, I think
that happens with most of us
00:49:46.82\00:49:49.72
where it becomes more and more
real and more and more in love
00:49:49.75\00:49:53.72
with Him and we only love
Him because He first loved us.
00:49:53.76\00:49:56.76
How has being involved in
this ministry specifically...
00:49:56.79\00:50:00.83
is it changing your life?
00:50:00.86\00:50:02.20
Aww definitely changing my
life because every time we go on
00:50:02.23\00:50:07.87
location which means you are
facing all kinds of challenges
00:50:07.90\00:50:12.34
all kinds of difficulties in
a country that you don't know
00:50:12.37\00:50:16.81
the culture really well and
we have our faith that God will
00:50:16.85\00:50:20.92
watch over us and things
will happen and you'll think
00:50:20.95\00:50:24.65
ahh, why did that happen?
00:50:24.69\00:50:26.02
And then in a short time
you will look back and say
00:50:26.05\00:50:29.32
He protected you or He guided
you and it happens over and over
00:50:29.36\00:50:35.36
again. And you know, I bet
this has made you appreciate
00:50:35.40\00:50:40.54
your mom and dad more as
missionaries because now you are
00:50:40.57\00:50:45.34
walking in their
footsteps essentially.
00:50:45.37\00:50:47.98
We're going to take a
quick break, we want you to see
00:50:48.01\00:50:53.48
how you can get involved
or getting in touch with
00:50:53.52\00:50:58.72
The Incredible Journey,
Gary is the speaker/director,
00:50:58.75\00:51:03.32
Robin is the producer
but we have an address roll
00:51:03.36\00:51:07.00
that will give you their phone
number, ways to contact them
00:51:07.03\00:51:11.10
if you want to send a donation
or how you can visit their
00:51:11.13\00:51:14.77
website, join them on YouTube,
you name it, here it is.
00:51:14.80\00:51:19.27
If you would like
more information about
00:51:19.31\00:51:24.15
The Incredible Journey,
you can write to that at:
00:51:24.18\00:51:26.58
You can call:
00:51:42.53\00:51:47.47
You can find them
online at: Or email them at:
00:51:52.84\00:52:01.78