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¤ I want to spend my
life mending broken people ¤
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¤ I want to spend
my life removing pain ¤
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¤ Lord let my words
heal a heart that hurts ¤
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¤ I want to spend my
life mending broken people ¤
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Hello friends. Welcome to 3ABN
Today. My name is John Lomacang
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and the woman sitting next to
me that's matching my tie is my
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lovely wife Angela.
Always good to have you hon.
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I'm happy to be here. I'm glad
that you've tuned in. You're
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going to be blessed by
today's program. I was.
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That's right.
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When I say I was is because I
was speaking to them backstage
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so to speak.
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Yeah, we kind of know what
you're going to find out about
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You know sometimes you think
about plans that you might have
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and you realize that you're
plans dwarf in comparison to
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God's plans. And so today
the couple that we're going to
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introduce you to in just a
moment stepped into God's dream
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which is way bigger than they
anticipated. God said I know the
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plans I have for you. And this
plan it took decades to get to
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this point but God's plans know
no haste and absolutely no delay
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And you'll find out...we
discovered that the place that
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this dream is coming to pass is
a place on earth that the name
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is duplicated nowhere else.
That's how unique God chooses a
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uniqueness and connects to
the things he dreams about. But
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before we introduce our couple
we want to thank you for your
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prayers and your financial
support of 3ABN Television and
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Radio.
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Where my wife is employed. But
before we go any further we have
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some music for you today
and who do we have Honey?
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We have Ginger Pitchers and
Tim Parton sharing a wonderful
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rendition of
Surely Goodness and Mercy.
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¤ ¤
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¤ Surely goodness and
mercy is going to follow me ¤
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¤ everywhere I go ¤
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¤ Surely goodness and
mercy is going to follow me ¤
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¤ everywhere I go ¤
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¤ Both goodness and the
mercy of the Lord my God ¤
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¤ are right behind
me every step I trod ¤
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¤ Surely goodness and
mercy going to follow me ¤
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¤ everywhere I go ¤
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¤ The Lord is my
shepherd a comfort to my soul ¤
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¤ When I lose direction
I trust the one who knows ¤
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¤ The pastures and
valleys restoring my faith ¤
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¤ Guiding myself for
the glory of his name ¤
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¤ My cup runneth over
My strength is renewed ¤
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¤ Shout hallelujah!
There's nothing he can't do ¤
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¤ Surely goodness and
mercy is going to follow me ¤
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¤ everywhere I go ¤
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¤ God said it and I heard
it it's settled in my mind ¤
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¤ Every day I walk with
Jesus new mercies I find ¤
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¤ I follow the leader
and his Spirit follows me ¤
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¤ Protecting my soul
from what I cannot see ¤
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¤ He goes before me
and he walks beside me ¤
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¤ Great God Almighty,
I've got angels all around me ¤
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¤ Surely goodness and
mercy is going to follow me ¤
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¤ everywhere I go ¤
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¤ Surely goodness and
mercy is going to follow me ¤
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¤ eternally ¤
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¤ And I will dwell in
the house of the Lord ¤
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¤ forever and
ever and ever more ¤
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¤ Oh surely good and
mercy is going to follow me ¤
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¤ everywhere I go ¤
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¤ Surely goodness and
mercy is going to follow me ¤
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¤ everywhere I go ¤
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¤ The goodness and the
mercies of the Lord my God ¤
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¤ are right behind
me every step I trod ¤
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¤ Surely goodness and
mercy is going to follow me ¤
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¤ everywhere I go ¤ Let's tag it
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¤ Surely goodness and
mercy is going to follow me ¤
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¤ everywhere I go ¤
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Well thank you so much for that
wonderful song, Surely Goodness
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and mercy and there was a
little bit of Ginger in there.
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Yeah, nice and lively.
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Nice and lively and when we talk
about surely goodness and mercy
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let's meet our guests right now
who understand what that really
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means. Jason and Annette Fornier
Good to have you here at 3ABN
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Thank you. Yes. Yes.
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You know before we go
any further...(Antionette)
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Is it Antionette or(Antionette,
right?)(guest nodding head)
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Now see something
a woman would know.
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Well we want to welcome you both
and before we move on to the
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wonderful mission stories, story
that you have, let's talk about
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who you are and where you're
from, and the name Fornier.
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That's right. It's connected
with the former president of ASI
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Frank Fornier, yes.
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This is his son.
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Yeah, so my name is Jason and
I'm from Kibidula in Tanzania
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and this is my wife Antionette.
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So I'm from South Africa
originally and Jason's from
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Canada originally but we
were both 19 when we moved on to
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become missionaries where we met
married and are still living in
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the same house
today 22 years later.
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Wow. So Jason you spent most
of your adult life in Africa.
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Yeah, so my parents actually
brought me to Africa when I was
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14 and we lived in Zambia on the
Sutu. And then I left Riverside
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when I was 19
and went to Kibidula.
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Oh you sent straight
to Tanzania to Kibidula.
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I like that. And that's the name
that we talked about by the way
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if you were watching the program
or listening that's the only
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place in the world where the
name Kibidula, at least to our
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knowledge exists. But let's just
kind of...This story is so rich
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when it kind of gets some good
foundation on it. Give us some
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of the backdrop into the history
and the miracle of Kibidula.
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Well in colonial times there was
a farmer, he used to work for a
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large tea company in Tanzania
and he purchased a farm that he
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planned to retire. And this was
a large farm, 4776 acres. And
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unfortunately or fortunately
but when Tanzania got its
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independence they were not
friendly to South Africa, they
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were not in a good relation to
South Africa and this farmer was
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South African and he had
to leave. Now he was not a
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Seventh-day Adventist but his
wife was. And when they had to
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leave his wife convinced him
to legally transfer the title of
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that farm to the name of or into
the hands of the church. And so
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he did that. And it reminds
me of Matthew 6:21 where it says
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where your treasure is there
will your heart be also and he
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gave his treasure to the church
and a few years after that he
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also gave his heart to Jesus
and he became an Adventist.
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Amen. That's wonderful. And so
now given the backdrop because
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they seem to have been...there
seems to be a lot of time
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between him giving that property
and then it getting into your
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possession. Just give me
some of that backdrop there.
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Well the church it had this farm
now and they really didn't have
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the manpower or the means to
do anything with it. So they sat
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with this farm almost
three decades. They requested
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Riverside Farm in Zambia because
they saw a successful program
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there if they could do something
with it in 1975. And Riverside
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was unable at that time to
do anything. But again when the
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call came in 1989 could
Riverside put together a team
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and do something with this farm
Riverside accepted the call and
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Daniel Butler with the team of a
doctor named Joshua Mopongo and
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and an agriculturist
named Gachi Chabala, they joined
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together and went to Kibidula
and started what we know today
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as Kibidula Mission.
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That picture we just saw
was the team of individuals?
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That was the
team that started it.
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For those who are familiar with
Butler's Soy Foods, Soy Curls,
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that's the Daniel Butler and his
family that went to Kibidula so
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many years ago to
pioneer the work there.
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Really, I have
some Soy Curls at home.
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So when I eat them now they're
going to take on a different (it
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is) different flavor. (Yeah) And
so the team there started a work
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that...Begin to tell me the
direction of that work. How did
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it unfold?
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The idea was to have a
self supporting mission so
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agriculture supporting mission
work, outreach evangelism.
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Which is not a new idea to
Adventism for those of you who
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are familiar with the Madison
training program. Madison has
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many missionaries going
from that program which started
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the branches of ministries and
Wildwood Sanitarium was one of
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those. Wildwood gave birth to
Riverside Farm in Zambia and it
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is Zambia who started the sister
project of Kibidula Farm in
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Tanzania. So it's based on a
work/training program training
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the whole person.
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But it proved to be
more difficult to do the self
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supporting part than the mission
part. The climate is cold, and
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the dry season is very long and
dry, the economy at the time was
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depressed. It wasn't easy to get
business or agriculture going.
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But the mission activities
you know took off. A clinic was
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started. An agriculture training
school was started. An outreach
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was going on. There was almost
from the very beginning baptisms
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were happening on a regular
basis. And the church growth
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just took off in that area.
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And it was a small and a
humble beginning because the
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missionaries back then and I
have to say even till today pay
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their own way to come to the
mission field. We pay very small
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stipends, just to cover living
expenses like eating and staying
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there. So it's a very self
sacrificing work but the Lord
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has blessed and so from very
small, very humble beginnings we
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are very excited about what's
happening right now and the
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growth that we are seeing.
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That's wonderful. How many
people work with you, the staff,
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and things like that.
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By today if you take staff
and students together all the
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workers we are about 400 people.
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Wonderful.
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That's good. And when you talk
about the large land you have
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covering to be able to...now is
all of that farming, or how did
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parcel that.
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Yeah. So for many years the
farm didn't do much. We had some
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gardens and some personal fields
or small acreages but we focused
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after recognizing that
agriculture was not easy to do,
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we focused mainly on
our mission activities.
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Which the focus on the mission
activities is mostly education
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We have a primary school where
we have the children trained in
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English and it's a significant
issue because in Tanzania right
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now children, and especially
in the rural areas receive their
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primary education in their
mother tongue which is Swahili
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and then when they switch to
high school it all switches to
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English which is a very big
challenge to the children. So
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giving our children an advantage
ahead of time in the English
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language is very valuable.
We also run an agricultural
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training center for at-risk
youth, it's children who had not
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progressed on to high school
due to poverty or discrimination
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against the sexes, abuse and
they stay with us for three-and-
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a- half years where we teach
them agriculture and vocational
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training and the goal behind
that is to protect them for
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three-and-a-half more
years until they are more mature
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enough to be able to be safe
when they go out into the world.
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And then we have a Bible school
where we train lay missionaries
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and our lay missionaries go
out into un-entered areas of the
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country and currently we have 42
We're very excited that some of
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our lay missionaries also go on
to get their pastoral training
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and are active pastors
in the Tanzanian church.
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Wow. This is good. What's the
nearest Adventist...Where is the
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nearest Adventist college
to you? To Tanzania where you
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you are.
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In Tanzania, there is an
Adventist College in Arusha and
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it's called The University
of Arusha, but that's about a 15
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hour drive from where we are.
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The church in Tanzania is
growing very fast. I'm sure if
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you look at a map
right now of East Central and
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Southern Africa, it's
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very green. The Adventist growth
is happening very rapidly. And
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so I remember there was a time
in Tanzania where there were so
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few pastors there were too many
churches for one pastor. And I'm
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thankful that it has changed and
improved right now but there's
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still, a need to train lay
missionaries, people who are out
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in the field, who can't afford
to become pastors and that are I
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have to say the majority of
the workers out there bringing
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people into the faith and those
are some of the people that we
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target and train.
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But the fact is there's still
a very large area especially in
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the southern part of Tanzania
where there are no or almost no
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Adventists. Whole areas you know
where you get villages that have
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no Adventists and never
heard the Adventist message. So
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sending out missionaries
that are trained a Kibidula into
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these villages where they rent
a home, they start living there
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and then over time because many
of these villages are Muslim.
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You can't work fast in Muslim
areas. But over time, two or
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three years, then you start to
build relationships with people
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and you start building.
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These are the lay missionaries
that are the real pioneers. When
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people look at us they think we
sacrifice a lot but it's when I
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look at my brothers and sisters
out on the front line, they
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sacrifice a lot. When a wife
just gave birth to twins and
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they both passed away because
of inadequate care. I remember
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at that time someone sent me
a little care package with the
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lotions and things that I really
treasure and I sent it on to her
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And just little things like that
touching her. Someone remembered
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her in her grief. You know I
can go on with many stories but
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those missionaries out on those
front lines they're the ones
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that are really raising up
the church of God in Tanzania.
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So you have a picture of a
church that is there. Is it in
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your community?
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Um, no. So when we send out
these missionaries from Kibidula
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they end up in various places
around Tanzania and they end up
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raising congregations. And
then the local communities or
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congregations have the ability
to like make brick, build a
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building, but the roof is the
expensive part, the part they
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cannot afford and so some
years back a project was started
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through ASI called Roofs Over
Africa. And through that project
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we were able to roof over 2000
churches in Tanzania, Malawi and
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Uganda and this is one of those.
And that's one of those. We also
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did the one-day church program
and so we built an additional
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1000 churches from
Kibidula in Tanzania.
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And I would like to say a
very big thank you to all our
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Adventist brothers and sisters
especially in North America who
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sponsored this one-day
church program because there's
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something that not everyone
realizes. So there was a budget
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attached to every church to be
built and my husband was part of
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the team building these churches
in the Tanzania area, but every
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penny that we saved of
that budget went to support the
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mission. So my husband and his
team would sleep on the ground
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or on the truck at night, not
taking guest houses or lodging
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and that project helped keep
the mission floating a few more
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years until God helped us figure
out a way to become more self
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supporting.
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You know when you think about a
church without a roof how is it
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looked upon by the community?
You're at a high altitude too.
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So one of the amazing things
is you know often the Catholic
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churches have very nice
church structures and other
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denominations. And then if
you have a very small new church
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started in an area with no roof
or no church built yet it's a
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little bit...you know the
church is a place where you know
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weddings happen and you
know it's a community center and
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joining a church that has no
structure is a little bit scary
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like who are they? But once a
church is built it's actually a
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tool for evangelism because if
they have a home to go to it's
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a welcoming place and we have
found that church membership
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grows much quicker where there
is a church than where there
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isn't.
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Because I know people have
wondered like well if we give
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money and we have churches built
we don't want them to sit empty
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and we can testify today that
these churches don't sit empty.
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It's the fact that there's a
church, there's a church behind
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this building that's legitimate
and it draws people to come and
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fill these churches.
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And people can still be involved
today. Just $1000 will roof a
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church. And so contributions
toward that project will help us
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put up more churches.
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Yeah we'll talk about that
before the program is done and
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we'll reach out
to those watching.
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A thousand, that's not a lot.
Cause I know my sister she needs
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a new roof and she said
it's $20,000 to get a new roof.
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That's 20 roofs on your church.
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And we talk about that. We have
been to Zimbabwe where we were
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in a community many years ago
where the people were meeting
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under a tree that had a
blue tarp on it. One of the old
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church sisters (a deaconess) a
deaconess, she had a little blue
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and white. While we were
building she was standing by
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this tree and she was so excited
We said what for. She says I
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have prayed for this day.
And when that whole complex was
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built even the local police...We
thought oh we're in trouble the
00:20:27.56\00:20:31.89
police are coming. But they came
to enroll their children in the
00:20:31.93\00:20:34.93
school because it becomes a
testament, like you said, to the
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community. And that was with
Maranatha. You know the roof
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over Africa, is that what you
call it? I saw the video at a
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recent ASI where Garwin McNielus
introduced that and they lowered
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the roof, that was the project
you talked about. (Yes) That was
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interesting. But now you're
reaching out to the people there
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but then how are you getting
through to them because you have
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to educate them. How is that
happening because you know are
00:21:01.06\00:21:05.53
there materials readily
available for them to read in
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their language?
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Right. So we realized that
education was going to be the
00:21:10.17\00:21:12.53
main way that we can reach and
build up a community. So we run
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three schools at Kibidula like
we mentioned, the primary school
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to reach our children when
they're young. It was originally
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started to reach our young
children of our staff in the
00:21:22.41\00:21:26.11
community so they don't have to
go off the boarding school when
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they're only six or seven
years old. And then we have the
00:21:28.62\00:21:33.05
agriculture training school for
at-risk youth which we already
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talked about as well. And then
we have our evangelism school
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And so bit by bit by sharing our
needs, sharing our story, people
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partner with us and they have
helped us build these buildings
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and I believe it's not just
been a blessing for us on the
00:21:47.10\00:21:51.11
receiving end but it has been a
blessing also for those involved
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when you see these young people
grow up and being able to live a
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productive and self-respecting
life witnessing for the Lord. It
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pays off.
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Wonderful. I have a question.
Are these teachers accredited?
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Where do you get these teachers
from to teach the children?
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Our teachers are well-trained
and educated as required but we
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we are not just restricting our
possibilities to those who are
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well trained. We have a few
teachers on staff who have not
00:22:17.43\00:22:21.70
the academic qualifications
but you could not find a better
00:22:21.74\00:22:23.44
teacher when it comes to love
and educating and disciplining
00:22:23.47\00:22:26.84
these children so we do try and
look at the character, love for
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the Lord, devotion to
the mission and ability.
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(Wonderful) Something else
happened there in this process
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of growing because I talk about
the bookstores and the printing
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aspects of it because providing
books, some ministries partnered
00:22:40.32\00:22:44.63
with you. Let's talk about that.
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Yeah. Back in the 90s, we
had one of our staff named Rudy
00:22:46.03\00:22:50.03
Harnish and he just had a burden
for the literature work, getting
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materials into Tanzania and
he began importing containers of
00:22:54.97\00:22:58.91
books through the help
of Light Bearers and other
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individuals. They purchased
books, filled containers brought
00:23:03.38\00:23:06.25
them to Tanzania and began
distributing and even selling
00:23:06.28\00:23:10.49
books around Tanzania. And
then we began getting people to
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translate some of those books.
And we're printing them in
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Swahili and of course there is
a huge demand for Swahili books.
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And that outreach has
really grown over the years.
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So Kibidula has a very unique
partnership where we work with
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the Seventh-day Adventist Church
in Tanzania. Everything that we
00:23:33.91\00:23:38.08
translate gets edited and
approved by the church first
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and then once upon approval we
then have permission to go ahead
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do the graphics, do the layout
and we partner with a sister
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ministry in Poland called
Springs of Life and they print
00:23:49.29\00:23:52.63
the high-quality booklets for us
at low cost which we import then
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and sell through the church
system and colporteuring system.
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Dr. Hans Diehl who unfortunately
has recently passed, Dr. Hans
00:24:00.94\00:24:06.14
Diehl worked with us and
translated his little book You
00:24:06.17\00:24:08.14
Turn. It was a best seller.
People are so interested in
00:24:08.18\00:24:12.98
health. And the interesting
thing about Tanzanians is they
00:24:13.01\00:24:15.85
love literature. They are not
as blessed to have literature in
00:24:15.88\00:24:19.25
abundance like we do here.
So they treasure what's given to
00:24:19.29\00:24:23.12
them in pamphlet or book form
and so when we are able to bring
00:24:23.16\00:24:27.06
in these small colorful
professionally printed booklets
00:24:27.10\00:24:29.83
at an affordable price people
want to buy and pass on to
00:24:29.86\00:24:33.03
others.
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That's interesting.
What's going through your head?
00:24:36.27\00:24:38.21
No I like that. They're doing
mission work just passing on
00:24:38.24\00:24:41.51
those books and yeah.
00:24:41.54\00:24:44.11
Like leaves of autumn.
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Leaves of autumn, there you
go. He's going to say something.
00:24:45.51\00:24:48.32
About 2012 I was going to
Young but actually an elderly
00:24:48.35\00:24:56.09
gentleman from Idaho. He had
a small printing press business
00:24:56.12\00:25:00.56
and he decided to donate his
whole shop, print shop. So the
00:25:00.60\00:25:09.94
press and the tools and the
guillotine, the thing that cuts
00:25:09.97\00:25:14.01
all the papers, all that
equipment. He loaded it into a
00:25:14.04\00:25:17.31
container and
sent it to Kibidula.
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And his name is Mr. Bill Bosay
and he didn't just donate his
00:25:20.02\00:25:24.65
whole shop. He closed his shop,
moved to Africa and even though
00:25:24.69\00:25:28.56
he couldn't speak a word of the
language he started our printing
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work in that garage that you
just saw. And though it was a
00:25:32.33\00:25:35.80
very small beginning today we
are breaking ground for a second
00:25:35.83\00:25:40.04
additional building, a large
building because our printing
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presses after printing and
distributing five million Glow
00:25:43.30\00:25:46.27
tracts in Swahili and many other
tracts and Bibles, we cannot
00:25:46.31\00:25:51.51
keep up and so by God's
grace we are now preparing and
00:25:51.55\00:25:54.82
receiving new presses to
let the work grow and go on.
00:25:54.85\00:25:57.99
You need funds
for that don't you?
00:25:58.02\00:26:01.79
Exactly. So we have actually
cleared the ground, prepared the
00:26:01.82\00:26:06.53
foundations, but we still need
to build a building and there's
00:26:06.56\00:26:09.43
a couple more pieces
of equipment that we would
00:26:09.46\00:26:11.93
eventually, like to obtain
to make our work more efficient.
00:26:11.97\00:26:15.67
We're looking for a paper
sheeter that would be able to
00:26:15.70\00:26:19.97
take rolls of paper and cut them
into sheets and that would be
00:26:20.01\00:26:23.48
much cheaper than
importing already sheeted paper.
00:26:23.51\00:26:26.75
Okay. Somebody's listening.
I want to reiterate: A paper
00:26:26.78\00:26:29.72
sheeter (yeah) that cuts
the roll into sheets of paper.
00:26:29.75\00:26:34.56
Because we can import rolls
much cheaper. It's called raw
00:26:34.59\00:26:38.69
material and sheeted paper is a
finished product and so they tax
00:26:38.73\00:26:44.07
differently, if it's
sheeted or rolls. (Okay)
00:26:44.10\00:26:47.24
Unfortunately, Mr. Bill is no
longer with us. He passed away
00:26:47.27\00:26:51.14
last year. But his work
continues and I'll always
00:26:51.17\00:26:55.48
remember Mr. Bill and him just
coming and giving all that he
00:26:55.51\00:26:59.18
had. He would go around serving
people's needs, dental needs or
00:26:59.21\00:27:02.85
medical needs. He
would get paid with chickens.
00:27:02.88\00:27:04.99
He gratefully accepted them and
so I'm reminded of Revelation
00:27:05.02\00:27:09.89
14 that says and their
works will follow them.
00:27:09.92\00:27:12.36
Their works will follow. Think
about the power of one. I was
00:27:12.39\00:27:16.43
just thinking from Idaho to
Kibidula, Tanzania. That's a...
00:27:16.46\00:27:22.67
that's not something that you
just wake up in the morning and
00:27:22.70\00:27:24.27
say I think I want to do that.
That's a divine appointment to
00:27:24.31\00:27:27.54
be able to invest, as we saw
in that picture there, his whole
00:27:27.58\00:27:31.21
printing outfit all the machines
That's a lot to transport. So he
00:27:31.25\00:27:35.38
invested himself and then he
ended up moving there to really
00:27:35.42\00:27:39.05
get it off the ground because I
could imagine all this equipment
00:27:39.09\00:27:42.86
arriving and people
said, So what do we do with it?
00:27:42.89\00:27:47.13
That's why he had to be there.
Were you there when it arrived?
00:27:47.16\00:27:49.83
I was there when it arrived.
And you know it wasn't his
00:27:49.86\00:27:52.80
original plan to go back. He
donated, he began thinking and
00:27:52.83\00:27:58.04
it's like it's back to that same
verse I quoted earlier: Where
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your treasure is there will your
heart be. And he followed his
00:28:00.94\00:28:04.45
treasure and gave his whole
life to the work of printing.
00:28:04.48\00:28:06.65
Just like the one that
donated the land. (Yeah)
00:28:06.68\00:28:10.69
That's true. It's amazing how
God works. You know the people
00:28:10.72\00:28:14.02
that have something like the
Lord asked Moses, What's in your
00:28:14.06\00:28:17.33
hand And we're seeing that
what's in our hand can be used
00:28:17.36\00:28:21.70
by the Lord He can divide
those loaves and fishes, yeah.
00:28:21.73\00:28:24.53
And there's an email address
and a website on every Glow
00:28:24.57\00:28:30.31
tract, every book printed. And
as we distribute it people can
00:28:30.34\00:28:33.64
call us and contact us or
look on the internet for further
00:28:33.68\00:28:38.68
information. And we get hundreds
of thousands of visits to these
00:28:38.71\00:28:45.05
sites looking for more Bible
studies or other materials and
00:28:45.09\00:28:50.03
one thing about the literature
work, you don't always know what
00:28:50.06\00:28:52.99
the results are because they're
not immediate and they're not
00:28:53.03\00:28:55.26
close to you. But we hear
stories all the time of people
00:28:55.30\00:29:00.74
having on the street, picked
up a piece of paper and the next
00:29:00.77\00:29:04.97
thing you know they're a church
member. So we don't know what
00:29:05.01\00:29:09.98
the impact is of this work. But
we know that one day in heaven
00:29:10.01\00:29:13.72
we will meet so many people who
are there because of Bill Bosay
00:29:13.75\00:29:20.56
and his giving his
life for this work.
00:29:20.59\00:29:25.56
Reminds me of that song, "Thank
you for giving to the Lord for a
00:29:25.59\00:29:30.00
life that was changed."
00:29:30.03\00:29:33.64
We can't sing right now, but
that's true. You don't know the
00:29:33.67\00:29:36.20
impact of it until you look
back And I like that because all
00:29:36.24\00:29:37.84
those thousand, no you
said millions, of pieces of
00:29:37.87\00:29:42.91
literature are going out.
They will get that information.
00:29:42.94\00:29:44.28
You're planting seeds and then
the resource that could come
00:29:44.31\00:29:48.15
back. We got this...We've heard
those stories through the years.
00:29:48.18\00:29:50.79
And it's not older people alone
that give themselves to the work
00:29:50.82\00:29:54.29
The power behind, or the
movement behind that five
00:29:54.32\00:29:57.03
million push for Glow tracts is
a young man who joined our team
00:29:57.06\00:30:01.33
about seven years ago. He is
from Missouri, a farmer's child
00:30:01.36\00:30:06.07
(from Missouri?) Yes. He
has never been anywhere else but
00:30:06.10\00:30:08.84
Missouri and he felt God's
call to come and join us at the
00:30:08.87\00:30:12.44
mission field. He refuses
to accept any pay. He is a
00:30:12.47\00:30:16.41
volunteer but he is a driving
force behind so much of what's
00:30:16.44\00:30:19.95
happening at Kibidula today. And
when I look at that young man it
00:30:19.98\00:30:23.55
keeps inspiring me to keep going
and God's blessing and I just
00:30:23.59\00:30:27.62
want to encourage young people
out there. If God is laying it
00:30:27.66\00:30:30.99
on your heart to join the
mission field just pray about
00:30:31.03\00:30:36.16
it and ask God to open a way for
you because when you look back
00:30:36.20\00:30:39.93
years later it may have been
just the start of many amazing
00:30:39.97\00:30:43.54
things.
00:30:43.57\00:30:44.91
Are you
accepting new missionaries?
00:30:44.94\00:30:49.08
Yeah, we're always
looking for people. Mm-hmm.
00:30:49.11\00:30:52.11
Do you...where do you house them
00:30:52.15\00:30:53.52
So we have several houses on
Kibidula and they are filling up
00:30:53.55\00:30:58.59
But we are looking for God's
providence to keep expanding
00:30:58.62\00:31:00.62
just like I'm sure here at 3ABN.
As the work grows you have to
00:31:00.66\00:31:03.63
keep up and yeah.
00:31:03.66\00:31:06.29
Now we talk about some of the
things, the challenges that some
00:31:06.33\00:31:09.70
of the young people face there.
Because we know wherever God's
00:31:09.73\00:31:14.50
work is being done there's
always some kind of spiritual
00:31:14.54\00:31:16.24
challenge, community challenges.
What are some of those
00:31:16.27\00:31:18.57
challenges that some of the
young people face in your area?
00:31:18.61\00:31:22.08
I think the biggest thing
that the youth of today face in
00:31:22.11\00:31:26.45
Tanzania in our area is poverty.
And with poverty comes a lack of
00:31:26.48\00:31:31.92
education and opportunities
which leads to boredom in the
00:31:31.95\00:31:35.89
villages. And so what we try
and do is provide educational
00:31:35.92\00:31:39.79
opportunities for them. So the
young people that come to our
00:31:39.83\00:31:43.47
schools don't have to pay
tuition because we realize that
00:31:43.50\00:31:45.63
their parents are not able to,
but they are agreeing to work.
00:31:45.67\00:31:49.30
They do plant and harvest their
own staples for their own food
00:31:49.34\00:31:53.54
and in addition to agriculture
they are learning vocational
00:31:53.58\00:31:57.65
trades like carpentry
and tailoring with some basic
00:31:57.68\00:32:01.32
academic subjects. And our hope
is that they can truly build-up
00:32:01.35\00:32:04.75
some self-respect when they
realize their identity in Christ
00:32:04.79\00:32:07.26
that he made them with a
purpose and that they can be a
00:32:07.29\00:32:12.23
blessing to many people. And
also, our goal is that they be
00:32:12.26\00:32:15.16
ready to meet him. And so it's
been a privilege to see 29 of
00:32:15.20\00:32:19.27
these young people give their
lives to Jesus just the last
00:32:19.30\00:32:22.94
year and a half and be baptized.
00:32:22.97\00:32:24.31
Praise the Lord. Twenty-nine;
that's the seed that came to
00:32:24.34\00:32:28.31
fruition, wow!
00:32:28.34\00:32:29.68
And we're just so thankful to
our staff back at Kibidula. We
00:32:29.71\00:32:33.52
work with local staff and they
realize that Kibidula is not
00:32:33.55\00:32:38.05
just a place for employment
but that they are called to do
00:32:38.09\00:32:40.82
mission service whether it's in
a school or in an office or on
00:32:40.86\00:32:44.16
the farm.
00:32:44.19\00:32:45.99
And so now something happened
back in 2003 that helped
00:32:46.03\00:32:53.50
strengthen the educational
system there. Talk about that
00:32:53.54\00:32:54.87
for us.
00:32:54.90\00:32:56.24
There was a lady in Colorado.
She was quite advanced in age
00:32:56.27\00:33:00.64
and as she felt end approaching
she was looking for a worthy
00:33:00.68\00:33:05.58
cause to invest some of her
money. And through the ministry
00:33:05.61\00:33:09.02
of Eden Valley, she heard about
Tanzania and Kibidula Mission
00:33:09.05\00:33:14.29
and our need to start a primary
school because our teachers were
00:33:14.32\00:33:18.99
forced to send their
little children to the nearest
00:33:19.03\00:33:20.63
government school. It was a
little distance away and they
00:33:20.66\00:33:23.10
were still young, five, six
years old. And so when she heard
00:33:23.13\00:33:26.43
that there's a need she invested
$20,000 and that helped us to
00:33:26.47\00:33:31.51
start the Iva Werner Primary
School and that was the birth of
00:33:31.54\00:33:35.44
the primary school.
00:33:35.48\00:33:36.81
What's the name of it?
00:33:36.85\00:33:38.18
Iva Werner. (Iva Werner)
00:33:38.21\00:33:39.55
Is it named after her?
00:33:39.58\00:33:40.92
Yeah, named
after her. (Beautiful)
00:33:40.95\00:33:42.42
You know I'm looking at the
cadence here, Idaho, Missouri,
00:33:42.45\00:33:46.82
Colorado, Canada. God pulling
people from all different places
00:33:46.86\00:33:51.46
to funnel into the dream that he
had. You want to share something
00:33:51.49\00:33:55.16
Well the Lord is not restricted
in his resources. He owns the
00:33:55.20\00:34:02.70
cattle on a thousand hills
and while he doesn't force our
00:34:02.74\00:34:05.74
hearts he does give a call
to us and so when the Lord calls
00:34:05.77\00:34:10.61
his people answer to a large
extent and through these people
00:34:10.65\00:34:15.88
all over the world
00:34:15.92\00:34:17.25
the work is going forward. And
I believe Jesus will come soon
00:34:17.29\00:34:21.06
because of it. Also in the same
year we were able to start that
00:34:21.09\00:34:25.39
agriculture school and it
targets these school dropouts.
00:34:25.43\00:34:30.83
It's kids who didn't finish
primary school or dropped out of
00:34:30.87\00:34:38.27
secondary school. They're the
ones who end up into crime, sex,
00:34:38.31\00:34:46.05
alcohol and joblessness because
they don't have a training. And
00:34:46.08\00:34:54.26
so going through our agriculture
school, that gives them three
00:34:54.29\00:34:55.99
and a half years of protection
and training. They come out the
00:34:56.02\00:35:01.13
other side with a skill that
they can depend on and also they
00:35:01.16\00:35:08.30
become upstanding citizens. And
through that school many of our
00:35:08.34\00:35:13.51
staff and the workers are former
students in that school who've
00:35:13.54\00:35:18.95
graduated and
they've become dependable.
00:35:18.98\00:35:20.95
So the staff that you saw in
the previous picture with the
00:35:20.98\00:35:23.85
printing process, they are
students in the agriculture
00:35:23.89\00:35:27.42
training. We have staff in
our avocado pack house that used
00:35:27.46\00:35:31.66
used to be students as well
because when they learn about
00:35:31.69\00:35:34.96
Jesus, it gives them a purpose
higher than just living for
00:35:35.00\00:35:39.03
themselves. So often they want
to continue with Kibidula and
00:35:39.07\00:35:41.57
ministry.
00:35:41.60\00:35:42.94
Beautiful. Now the agriculture.
What fruits and vegetables do
00:35:42.97\00:35:47.28
you grow?
00:35:47.31\00:35:49.11
Yeah. So that dream of becoming
self-supporting never left us
00:35:49.14\00:35:52.25
and even though we had a hard
start eventually we did notice
00:35:52.28\00:35:57.09
that one thing that grew well
was avocados. The avocados in
00:35:57.12\00:36:01.79
our gardens were like well
better than the avocados you
00:36:01.82\00:36:04.73
taste anywhere else in the world
and they grew prolifically. They
00:36:04.76\00:36:08.60
like that cool dry weather
(non GMO) non-GMO yeah. And so
00:36:08.63\00:36:16.81
eventually, I thought you know
why don't we grow avocados? And
00:36:16.84\00:36:20.71
we started planting. I had a big
dream, I thought it was big. It
00:36:20.74\00:36:23.55
is like we're going to do 10,000
trees. And so I started planting
00:36:23.58\00:36:27.78
preparing the land and we
received a donation to put in
00:36:27.82\00:36:32.05
some irrigation and I had asked
for money to do about 30 acres
00:36:32.09\00:36:38.53
of irrigation. And then I worked
really hard and made that money
00:36:38.56\00:36:44.97
go further and we ended
up putting about 60 acres of
00:36:45.00\00:36:49.74
irrigated avocados in.
(Wonderful) (Okay) And that
00:36:49.77\00:36:54.41
caught the attention of some
people who were interested in
00:36:54.44\00:36:56.95
what we were doing and they
partnered with us and we were
00:36:56.98\00:37:02.22
able to grow that you know from
10,000 trees. Now we're at about
00:37:02.25\00:37:07.82
78,000 avocado trees. It's a
500 acres avocado farm. Most of
00:37:07.86\00:37:12.19
the trees are still quite young.
(There's a picture of it there)
00:37:12.23\00:37:15.56
There's a picture of it.
00:37:15.60\00:37:16.93
So those are avocado
trees in the background?
00:37:16.97\00:37:18.30
Yeah. Some of the young ones.
(Okay) And 500 acres is a big
00:37:18.33\00:37:22.44
area and this year from our pack
house we are exporting about a
00:37:22.47\00:37:31.45
thousand tons of avocados to...
mostly to India but also to
00:37:31.48\00:37:37.32
Europe. (wow)
00:37:37.35\00:37:39.99
How long does it take
an avocado tree to grow?
00:37:40.02\00:37:41.62
One avocado
orchard, one avocado tree.
00:37:41.66\00:37:44.36
Yeah an avocado tree will
start producing in around three
00:37:44.39\00:37:50.57
years but it's you know a pretty
small tree. Five to seven years
00:37:50.60\00:37:54.84
is when they reach a
pretty good production.
00:37:54.87\00:37:57.84
That is interesting because when
I look back at that picture the
00:37:57.87\00:38:03.85
people that were standing in
front, are those the workers?
00:38:03.88\00:38:06.38
Yeah. I was in that picture
too but it's our avocado team.
00:38:06.41\00:38:11.52
The wonderful thing about this
whole avocado miracle is that
00:38:11.55\00:38:15.36
he always used to say, Honey,
if I just had a million dollars
00:38:15.39\00:38:19.33
we could do so much more work
and that's just an impossible
00:38:19.36\00:38:23.63
dream for poor missionaries.
But then at the right time,
00:38:23.67\00:38:26.57
according to
00:38:26.60\00:38:27.94
God's providence people
partnered with us and the dream
00:38:27.97\00:38:31.87
became a reality. Today we have
three dams that we have built on
00:38:31.91\00:38:35.58
the property. The water is
on the farm. There's no one down
00:38:35.61\00:38:40.38
stream from us. We are at a
high altitude so we harvest at a
00:38:40.42\00:38:44.12
different time than the regular
market season in the world. When
00:38:44.15\00:38:47.79
I look at the providences and I
see how God has made this happen
00:38:47.82\00:38:51.79
Kibidula is God's farm. I have
no other conviction but that
00:38:51.83\00:38:56.56
this is God's farm for such a
time as this. Again when I look
00:38:56.60\00:38:59.97
at that map of Africa and I see
how red it is up north of us and
00:39:00.00\00:39:04.17
there is no Adventist presence
I'm asking myself at a time when
00:39:04.21\00:39:08.61
it was difficult to invest in
God invested in Kibidula. At a
00:39:08.64\00:39:12.61
time when our colleagues were
not believers, couldn't sleep at
00:39:12.65\00:39:16.48
night, we slept at night. We
didn't know fully what God was
00:39:16.52\00:39:20.36
doing and I don't fully know yet
what he's going to do but I know
00:39:20.39\00:39:23.59
God may use Kibidula to reach
the rest of Africa to bless our
00:39:23.63\00:39:27.26
place. (Wow, wow)
00:39:27.30\00:39:29.80
Can you imagine what you could
do with a million dollars. Wow!
00:39:29.83\00:39:32.90
the work that could be done,
it's beautiful, the Lord owns
00:39:32.93\00:39:37.97
everything.
00:39:38.01\00:39:39.34
We're going to appeal to our
viewers and listeners here. Just
00:39:39.37\00:39:43.21
describe the location of
Kibidula because in the picture
00:39:43.24\00:39:46.25
we saw a young man with a coat
on and when people think about
00:39:46.28\00:39:48.98
Africa, they think heat, you
know desert (the climate) the
00:39:49.02\00:39:54.42
climate exactly.
00:39:54.46\00:39:55.79
Yeah people think of Africa as
a place that's very hot and dry
00:39:55.82\00:39:59.43
like desert and...Tanzania has a
lot of high-elevation areas. So
00:39:59.46\00:40:05.63
we live on a high plateau. The
weather is cool. It can even be
00:40:05.67\00:40:10.07
frosty part of the year but not
so frosty that it damages the
00:40:10.11\00:40:14.14
trees. (No snow?) No snow. But
it never gets hot either. It's
00:40:14.18\00:40:18.15
cool summer and winter.
We always wear jackets there.
00:40:18.18\00:40:23.18
There's very few days that you
can get up in the morning and
00:40:23.22\00:40:26.55
say I don't need a jacket.
00:40:26.59\00:40:28.19
So what's the
average temperature like?
00:40:28.22\00:40:30.96
On warm days we can get up into
the 80s but often in the winter
00:40:30.99\00:40:38.90
months it's 50s and 60s and
then 70s and low 80s is common.
00:40:38.93\00:40:45.87
You know I think of some of the
practical questions because we
00:40:45.91\00:40:49.14
have so much conveniences here
in America. What are some of the
00:40:49.18\00:40:52.48
conveniences that you don't
have I'm thinking things like
00:40:52.51\00:40:57.09
internet, communication. How do
you...Because it's so far away
00:40:57.12\00:40:59.85
from so much. Talk
about some of those things.
00:40:59.89\00:41:04.63
Yeah. When we went to Kibidula
there was no electricity and no
00:41:04.66\00:41:08.13
telephones. You used to have to
drive two hours to the nearest
00:41:08.16\00:41:12.70
phone.
00:41:12.73\00:41:14.07
And remember we would wait
until 8 p.m. when the satellite
00:41:14.10\00:41:16.27
was passing overhead so you
can catch it and quickly send an
00:41:16.30\00:41:18.94
email. Later we advanced and we
use formula milk cans from house
00:41:18.97\00:41:23.81
to house to send a satellite
signal. And then we kept
00:41:23.85\00:41:28.48
progressing till now we all have
cell phones and unfortunately my
00:41:28.52\00:41:31.72
husband does his office
work while he's lying in bed. So
00:41:31.75\00:41:34.69
technology has caught up with us
00:41:34.72\00:41:38.39
(unclear)Now it's caught you.
00:41:38.43\00:41:42.46
But we're still a little bit
remote. The nearest airport is a
00:41:42.50\00:41:49.24
town that's two hours from
us. And there's no international
00:41:49.27\00:41:53.71
fights there so it's a 12
hour drive to an international
00:41:53.74\00:41:56.38
airport. (wow) We live on dirt
roads but not so far you know.
00:41:56.41\00:42:05.05
It's only 45 minutes to the
nearest little town and so...
00:42:05.09\00:42:11.33
As a wife maybe the thing that
I missed most was homeschooling
00:42:11.36\00:42:15.30
my children. When we come
on furlough every two or three
00:42:15.33\00:42:18.23
years, I have to buy curriculum
for the next two or three years
00:42:18.27\00:42:21.57
And I can't sell it on eBay
if it doesn't work for us. So I
00:42:21.60\00:42:26.64
remember spending a lot of time
in prayer saying Lord, my girls
00:42:26.68\00:42:28.54
are growing, they're outgrowing
some things. Please help me,
00:42:28.58\00:42:33.05
guide me to the right materials
and I'm just so amazed because
00:42:33.08\00:42:38.15
we basically volunteer so we
didn't have the money to know a
00:42:38.19\00:42:42.06
year ahead how we were going to
fund their schooling but Jason
00:42:42.09\00:42:45.66
and I have always believed if
we live by the fact that God has
00:42:45.69\00:42:48.53
promised to provide for
our needs which he has and
00:42:48.56\00:42:50.03
every year he
00:42:50.07\00:42:51.40
has provided for our children's
education. That's just one
00:42:51.43\00:42:54.80
example of a convenience that
would have been nice if I could
00:42:54.84\00:42:57.94
have had access to a book
store or take my girls to some
00:42:57.97\00:43:02.11
extracurricular class
or something like that.
00:43:02.14\00:43:06.98
You know that's...We think so
conveniently in America here and
00:43:07.02\00:43:11.19
when we go places and realize
look north, east, south, and
00:43:11.22\00:43:15.29
west. Ah it's going to be awhile
before we get to where we're
00:43:15.32\00:43:18.03
aiming to get to.
00:43:18.06\00:43:19.39
But Pastor John it's okay. You
know I have learned and what we
00:43:19.43\00:43:22.90
strive to be an example to our
team is that we need each other.
00:43:22.93\00:43:25.27
We need people who have the
means that we need people in the
00:43:25.30\00:43:29.04
Un-entered areas of the world,
one giving service and one
00:43:29.07\00:43:33.44
giving means to partner together
and that's how we can finish the
00:43:33.48\00:43:36.68
work together. If we were just
keeping to ourselves because we
00:43:36.71\00:43:40.32
understand each other better
rather than to try and figure
00:43:40.35\00:43:42.15
other cultures or other people
out, we severely limit ourselves
00:43:42.18\00:43:46.42
we severely limit our faith,
we severely limit and retard
00:43:46.45\00:43:49.52
the work. And so it's a team
effort coming together cross
00:43:49.56\00:43:53.23
culturally many
times to further the work.
00:43:53.26\00:43:56.90
Are you able to watch 3ABN?
00:43:56.93\00:44:00.24
We don't actually have a TV.
We can pull it up on our phone
00:44:00.27\00:44:04.41
though. (Okay)
00:44:04.44\00:44:07.11
So every now and then by
kids would see Auntie Linda,_
00:44:07.14\00:44:11.38
3ABN (when they were young)
when they were young. (Right)
00:44:11.41\00:44:15.18
And so we think about...I don't
know if we showed that last
00:44:15.22\00:44:19.09
picture of the avocado in
the factory being packaged up. I
00:44:19.12\00:44:23.36
didn't see that
one. Maybe I missed it.
00:44:23.39\00:44:24.99
Yeah, they showed...Packaged?
Did you show that one?
00:44:25.03\00:44:28.26
The Package House.
00:44:28.30\00:44:29.83
Really interesting to know that
India and Europe are benefitting
00:44:29.86\00:44:33.90
from those avocados. So you
didn't bring any with you did
00:44:33.94\00:44:36.40
you? (Chuckles)
00:44:36.44\00:44:37.87
Unfortunately, America doesn't
allow us to bring avocados. But
00:44:37.91\00:44:41.11
we are negotiating right
now with the U.S. government and
00:44:41.14\00:44:44.35
hopefully within a year Kibidula
will see that possibility of
00:44:44.38\00:44:49.82
bringing avocados to America.
00:44:49.85\00:44:51.49
Yeah. We don't know how it's
going to pan out right now but
00:44:51.52\00:44:54.12
it's one of those interesting
developments that are happening
00:44:54.16\00:44:57.59
He was not exaggerating when
he was saying we grow superior
00:44:57.63\00:45:01.70
avocados. It really is true.
People are seeking after them.
00:45:01.73\00:45:04.63
So we're excited about
possibilities we're seeing where
00:45:04.67\00:45:07.50
that one may lead.
00:45:07.54\00:45:08.87
Yeah that's true because the
better the avocado the better
00:45:08.90\00:45:11.37
the guacamole. Now talk about
some of the needs you have.
00:45:11.41\00:45:15.41
Some of the specific needs
because I want our audience
00:45:15.44\00:45:18.51
listening. As you mentioned
Idaho, Colorado, a printing
00:45:18.55\00:45:23.05
press, all these things. Talk
about some of the specific needs
00:45:23.08\00:45:27.09
that you have and I believe that
God will move on the hearts of
00:45:27.12\00:45:30.53
those who are watching.
00:45:30.56\00:45:32.83
Well we always covet your
prayers and you know thinking
00:45:32.86\00:45:40.70
about us, we need people to
support the work in Africa. But
00:45:40.74\00:45:44.24
specific financial needs that
people can partner with us on
00:45:44.27\00:45:47.11
is training the lay missionaries
the Tanzanians who go through
00:45:47.14\00:45:53.62
our training course. It
costs about $400 to train one
00:45:53.65\00:45:58.52
missionary. That's a five-month
course. And then we send them
00:45:58.55\00:46:04.06
out into un-entered areas of
Tanzania and that costs us about
00:46:04.09\00:46:08.30
$100 a month to maintain a
family in an un-entered area.
00:46:08.33\00:46:12.90
That's only a hundred a month?!
00:46:12.93\00:46:15.00
So we sponsor them part-time
with the understanding that half
00:46:15.04\00:46:19.21
a day they work for us and
half a day they work to support
00:46:19.24\00:46:22.11
themselves. But we contribute
$100 toward them so that they
00:46:22.14\00:46:25.61
can cover their basic needs. So
people could partner with us to
00:46:25.65\00:46:29.15
keep our evangelism training
center going at $400 per student
00:46:29.18\00:46:32.55
for a five-month course,
or to help us support our lay
00:46:32.59\00:46:35.82
missionaries after the
training at $100 a month.
00:46:35.86\00:46:39.33
And then like I mentioned
earlier we are building a new
00:46:39.36\00:46:42.76
printing press, the foundation
has been started and we do need
00:46:42.80\00:46:47.57
help to finish that building
so that we can move our new
00:46:47.60\00:46:52.14
equipment which is
almost in Tanzania. It's on the
00:46:52.17\00:46:54.81
way. And be able to print more
tracts, more literature, more
00:46:54.84\00:47:01.08
Bible studies
and, of course, books.
00:47:01.12\00:47:03.79
And then we mentioned the church
building program. So if anyone's
00:47:03.82\00:47:08.19
willing to partner with us
through ASI the church Roofs
00:47:08.22\00:47:11.66
Over Africa project. For $1000
you can put a tin roof...No I
00:47:11.69\00:47:15.40
need to not say tin roof because
we are no longer living in the
00:47:15.43\00:47:17.97
days of the tin roof. The
technology has become so much
00:47:18.00\00:47:22.20
better now It's an Aluzinc
combination that they use now
00:47:22.24\00:47:26.78
and these roofs have lasted for
decades now. When people work
together, the ladies
00:47:26.81\00:47:32.21
and the men work together to
make their own bricks and they
00:47:32.25\00:47:34.98
can build the walls. But the
struggling aspect for them, the
00:47:35.02\00:47:37.65
stumbling block is the roof
itself. It's very expensive and
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so for $1000, you can help a
congregation to put a roof on
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their church.
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That's right. The banner over me
is love as the children used to
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sing that song and as I'm
looking at this I'm thinking
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how could our viewers and our
listeners you know partner in a
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significant way as we,
Antionette and Jason, as we
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listen to what God in the life
of Kibidula Farms. Let me ask
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another question. If people want
to volunteer, if people want to
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come there, how do you do that?
00:48:13.29\00:48:14.66
Right. So we love young people
Student missionaries are always
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welcome whether they
come through a university like
00:48:20.43\00:48:22.76
Southern Adventist University
or just by themselves. They are
00:48:22.80\00:48:25.83
welcome to contact us and start
dialoguing with us. If they're
00:48:25.87\00:48:29.70
looking for an opportunity for
six to nine months to come and
00:48:29.74\00:48:32.47
volunteer in any of our schools
or on the farm or in our PR
00:48:32.51\00:48:36.38
department or in the offices.
We would love to dialogue with
00:48:36.41\00:48:39.81
them and welcome them. For some
other people who would like to
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some and help us, we have some
building projects going on right
00:48:42.92\00:48:45.75
now. We are actually looking
for someone who could oversee a
00:48:45.79\00:48:49.86
building project for us for the
next several months. If someone
00:48:49.89\00:48:54.30
would like to help us in our
office with administration, we
00:48:54.33\00:48:57.53
do need someone to help us just
organize our office and run it
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so that we can keep up with the
demands. We are looking for just
00:49:01.04\00:49:08.21
anyone who's willing to
even partner with a wonderful
00:49:08.24\00:49:10.81
ministry called Child Impact.
Child Impact goes around the
00:49:10.85\00:49:16.22
world to save young children
from the trafficking business
00:49:16.25\00:49:21.96
and vulnerable at-risk children.
I had a wonderful opportunity
00:49:21.99\00:49:27.43
to meet with Child Impact
at ASI And that's why ASI's so
00:49:27.46\00:49:30.97
wonderful because you can
network and make connections
00:49:31.00\00:49:33.27
The Child Impact has been
willing to work with me to
00:49:33.30\00:49:37.54
sponsor some of the girls in
our agriculture training program
00:49:37.57\00:49:40.14
So people supporting
Child Impact is indirectly also
00:49:40.18\00:49:44.55
supporting
ministries like Kibidula.
00:49:44.58\00:49:47.92
Okay. And so if you were to say
the most urgent need you have
00:49:47.95\00:49:51.95
how would you respond to that?
00:49:51.99\00:49:54.12
Well the thing that's really
on my heart right now is getting
00:49:54.16\00:50:00.76
that printing
press building complete.
00:50:00.80\00:50:03.40
Just give us an idea the cost
upper cost in your estimation.
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Building in Africa is a
lot cheaper than building in
00:50:07.97\00:50:11.34
America. You know when I say
a figure in America it would be
00:50:11.37\00:50:15.91
hard to build a house in
some places but you know about
00:50:15.94\00:50:21.35
$200,000 would build us a
substantial building and so
00:50:21.38\00:50:25.22
that's what we think we need
for that building at this time.
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The other thing also and one of
the reasons we are in the U.S.
00:50:28.66\00:50:31.73
for a few weeks is not just to
give donor reports but also to
00:50:31.76\00:50:35.93
ask for people who are going
to partner with us because even
00:50:35.96\00:50:38.77
though we started the avocado
exporting business we're not
00:50:38.80\00:50:41.37
quite making a profit yet.
The business is still in it's
00:50:41.40\00:50:45.04
infancy and while it's
going well we still need support
00:50:45.07\00:50:49.04
for another year to keep
the mission operations going and
00:50:49.08\00:50:51.98
then it's our goal as soon as
the business has enough profit
00:50:52.01\00:50:55.02
that we can support our mission
but then also expand the mission
00:50:55.05\00:51:00.29
work across Tanzania and
beyond and support missions.
00:51:00.32\00:51:02.59
Do you have a church pastor?
00:51:02.62\00:51:04.76
No, we...we're...
00:51:04.79\00:51:07.76
We're under the care of
a district pastor and then
00:51:07.80\00:51:13.94
dependent on our own staff as
well. So we could use a chaplain
00:51:13.97\00:51:16.40
if there's someone out
there with a heart to keep
00:51:16.44\00:51:19.77
missionaries and staff motivated
and grounded in the love of
00:51:19.81\00:51:22.58
Jesus, please, do
communicate with us.
00:51:22.61\00:51:25.51
Wow. What a program, what a
program. We're going to talk
00:51:25.55\00:51:28.12
about some more on the other
side but as you think about what
00:51:28.15\00:51:31.02
God can do in your own life just
think about Kibidula Farms and
00:51:31.05\00:51:35.86
you may be located somewhere in
America or somewhere around the
00:51:35.89\00:51:38.06
world we're going to give you
information that you need to get
00:51:38.09\00:51:40.26
in touch with Antionette and
Jason there at Kibidula Farms
00:51:40.30\00:51:44.43
and become a partner by
advancing the work in Tanzania.
00:51:44.47\00:51:48.77
We'll be right back
after this short thought.
00:51:48.80\00:51:51.07
If you would like to contact
or know more about Kibidula Farm
00:51:51.11\00:51:57.95
you can do so in the following
ways: You can write to them at
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P.O. Box 17, Mafinga, Tanzania,
East Africa. You can call them
00:52:01.22\00:52:06.15
at +255 (756) 993-336
You can also contact by
00:52:06.19\00:52:19.53
Whatsapp. You can send them an
email at kibidula@gmail.com or
00:52:19.57\00:52:24.61
visit their
website at kibidula.org
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