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life mending broken people ¤
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¤ I want to spend
my life removing pain ¤
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¤ Lord let my words
heal a heart that hurts ¤
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¤ I want to spend my
life mending broken people ¤
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Hello friends welcome to another
edition of 3ABN Today. My name
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is Ryan Day. I'm your host and
it's a blessing always for you
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our 3ABN family around the world
joining us each and every day
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as we take on a new Today
program. We have all kinds of
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different Today programs that
we air and I like to remind our
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viewers of that because there
maybe someone watching for the
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very first time that says, you
know what is this 3ABN Today?
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Well this 3ABN, the Three Angels
Broadcasting Network, this is
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our flagship program, our
main program. We have multiple
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programs and multiple other
types of programming that we air
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on the 3ABN network but this is
the flagship program and we have
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different types of 3ABN Today
programs. Sometimes we might do
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a cooking program, sometimes
it might be a 3ABN Today music
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program, it might be a 3ABN
Today Bible Q and A program.
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you've seen those.
They're fresh every Monday
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and so there's different types
of programs. Sometimes it might
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take on a Bible topic and
just do an entire one-hour Bible
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study on a subject. And of
course a lot of our programming
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we bring in different ministries
from around the world and we
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highlight that ministry and show
how God is blessing others and
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how you also can participate
in that blessing. Well today we
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have one of those. We have
Go There4 Ministry in the house
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with us.
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It's such a blessing to have
Mr. Tanner Maasdorp and Kani
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Washington with
us. How you guys doing?
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We're great. Thank you for
having us here we're excited
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to be here.
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Amen, amen. These guys
are on fire. They're all about
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evangelism and you're not going
to want to miss this program so
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don't change the channel, don't
just watch just two or three
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minutes of this YouTube video.
Stick it out to the end. I
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think you're going to be blessed
indeed. So we're going get to
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these guys. We're going to
get to know more about Go There4
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Ministries. But before we go any
further I would like to just go
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straight to a musical
number that's going to bless us
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tremendously. We have our sister
Hope Velasquez with us and she's
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going to be
singing the beautiful song
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Wonderful, Merciful Savior.
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¤ ¤
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¤ Wonderful, merciful Savior
Precious Redeemer and Friend ¤
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¤ Who would have
thought that a Lamb could ¤
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¤ Rescue the souls of men O
you rescue the souls of men ¤
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¤ Counselor, Comforter, Keeper
Spirit we long to embrace ¤
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¤ You are the hope when
our hearts have hopelessly ¤
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¤ lost our way, O we've
hopelessly lost our way ¤
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¤ You are the One that we praise
You are the one we adore ¤
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¤ You give us healing and grace
Our hearts always hunger for ¤
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¤ O our hearts
always hunger for ¤
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¤ Almighty, Infinite Father
Faithfully loving your own ¤
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¤ Here on our knees You find
us bowing before Your throne ¤
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¤ O we're bowing
before your throne ¤
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¤ You are the One that we
praise You are the one we adore¤
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¤ You give the healing and grace
Our hearts always hunger for ¤
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¤ O our hearts
always hunger for ¤
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Amen, amen. Thank you so much
Hope. Amen. That sister blesses
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me every time I hear her music.
Thank you so much for sharing
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that. And you know what I've got
to apologize to Hope because I
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just butcher her name on
national television. Actually
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it's not Velasquez. It's Vasquez
Hope Vasquez and I made a
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mistake because I had written it
down wrong. So I just wanted to
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clarify that. Thank you so much
Hope Vasquez for bringing us
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that beautiful, beautiful
song. Gentlemen, Welcome.
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We have Tanner Maasdorp and
we have Kani Washington. Nice
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names, great ministry. You're
on fire for the Lord, young guys
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and let's go ahead. I'm going
to start with you, Tanner. Let's
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just tell a little bit about
yourself. Let us know who is
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Tanner, where you're from, a
little bit about your background
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all that good stuff.
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Sounds good. I'm Tanner Maasdorp
I'm excited to be here. Thankful
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for this opportunity to share
how God has worked in my life.
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I was born and raised in
the Tampa Bay area to two
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amazing Christian
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parents. So I've been in the
church my whole life. You know
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I don't have that testimony of
I wandered away from the church
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and had this crazy experience
but I have a testimony of two
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amazing parents who tried to
keep me on track. So I've always
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love God, grew up in the church
but you know most people in high
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school probably would say
I got distracted. For me my
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distractions were things like
sports. Just wanted to be the
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best basketball player I
could possibly be. That was my
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distraction. And that was what
took up my time. I loved God but
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didn't take time in personal
study, didn't take time to
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actually, walk with Him and
somewhere along the way in high
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school I just really had that
encounter where I really, really
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fell in love with my Savior who
I thought I'd been walking with
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all the time but truly, truly
fell in love with Him. So that's
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kind of where things
started happening in my life.
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Amen, amen. I can so relate to
that testimony. While it's not
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the same, you and I share a love
for basketball I love basketball
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played it growing up. It was
my life at one point. And I also
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didn't have this incredible
story where I left, became a
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prodigal and gave up on God and
all that. While I thought I knew
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Christ, I really didn't. So
I can totally relate to that
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kind of testimony. Well
it's a blessing to have you here
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brother. It's you guys' first
time here at 3ABN? And hopefully
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it's not the last time.
So lets' go to Kani, Kani
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tell us a little bit about your
background, where you're from,
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your upbringing, a
little bit about your story.
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Okay so I was born in
Connecticut, the state of
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Connecticut. I moved down to
Florida when I was about like
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nine months to a year old so
I've lived in Florida my whole
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life. I wasn't born into
the church but I came into the
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church at a very young age and
I thank God every single day for
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that because you know
being younger I was a lot more
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receptive to like understanding
who God is. And um yeah that
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just happened because me and my
friend named Geo, we would just
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go outside and play, you know
do what little kids do, you know
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just play in the playground and
stuff. And we just kind of had
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like conversations. You know
we were like young, about like
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seven, eight years old. So he
was telling me that he goes to
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church but it was on Saturday.
And I remember me being a little
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kid I was very inquisitive. I
was like Saturday? Wait, what do
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you mean Saturday? I thought
that the seventh day of the week
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was Sunday but yet he told
me that it was Saturday and that
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still sticks to me to this day.
But he invited me to church and
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you know me being a little kid
and very inquisitive I went and
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then it was history from there.
I started going more frequently
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and I eventually brought my mom
with me. And you know his family
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really did take me under their
wing and I remember we were just
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sitting in his house and he
would be giving us like Bible
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studies and stuff like that.
And I praise God for that every
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single day. But um yeah it's
been history from there. Me and
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my mom got baptized on the same
day. You know I echo what Tanner
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said, You know I...my
relationship with God didn't
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really start taking off till
a couple years ago. I thought I
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was walking with God you know
like for years and years and
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years, but I didn't really start
to fall in love with my Savior
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until you know like recently
whenever I really started to
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take my walk with God seriously
But that's just a little bit
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Absolutely Amen, praise the Lord
You guys are young. I normally
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don't ask you this but I feel
like it won't be offensive to
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ask your age. How old are you?
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I'm 23. (23).
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I'm 19.
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Nineteen, wow man! Praise
the Lord. You know I remember I
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started preaching, my very first
sermon was at 17 years old. I
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can kind of relate to you guys.
The youth and the fireman. And
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like we need more young people
on fire for the Lord. And so to
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see you guys here today talking
about your ministry and talking
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about what God is doing through
you guys and through your
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ministry to bless others. It's
a blessing to have some young
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blood that's on fire for Jesus.
So praise the Lord for that.
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Well, let's talk about GoThere4.
I love this. So first of all let
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me back up here. I'm going to go
to the Bible. Let's just kick it
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off right now because
your ministry, the name of your
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ministry GoThere4 comes from
the great commission given to us
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by Jesus Christ there in Matthew
Chapter 28 and I want to read
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that text here, Matthew chapter
28 and I'm going to begin in
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verse 18. Jesus says: All
authority has been given to me
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in heaven and on earth, verse
19 first words, Go, therefore,
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where you get your name
from, your ministry name, Go,
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therefore, and make disciples
of all nations baptizing them in
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the name of the Father and of
the Son and of the Holy Spirit
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teaching them to observe all
things that I have commanded you
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and lo I am with you always even
to the end of the age. Amen.
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That's the great commission
and we are commanded, we are
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commissioned as soldiers for the
Lord's army to go out and work
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for him to share the gospel
and to bring others who might be
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lost and who might be
struggling, might be suffering
to a Savior who loves
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them and so tell us about
GoThere4 Ministries. How did
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this all come about because this
is a relatively new ministry.
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Tell us how you guys were
inspired or the inspiration
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behind the creation
of GoThere4 Ministries.
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Yeah absolutely. Um so basically
what we do is what Matthew 28
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says, Go therefore and make
disciples. The goal is to not
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merely go therefore and make
disciples but to go therefore
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and make disciples who then in
turn go therefore and make more
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disciples. So I guess the
creation of this started kind of
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back to where I was talking
about that moment where I fell
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in love with Jesus. Like I truly
fell in love. I actually started
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that relationship with Jesus
which was in high school and I
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just felt this you know burning
desire in my heart to you know
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go into ministry. I didn't know
exactly what that all entailed
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but I mean anybody who's
had that encounter and felt that
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calling you have this burning
desire that just won't go away
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until you actually do what God's
called you to do. And so I just
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kept praying about it, kept
walking with God and I just felt
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that there was this calling to
start this ministry. And so what
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I attempted to do around
probably 17, 18 years old was
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to start a ministry kind of
like what we're doing now and I
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brought a few friends alongside
with me to do as well and
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Cassandra, she's still part of
our ministry. I definitely want
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to shout her out while we're
here (Shout out to Cassandra)
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yes absolutely and then my other
friend Sebastian we wanted to
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start a ministry but you know
we're young people. We didn't
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know what was going on, so
there was a lot of talk, almost
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dreaming of what could be rather
than actually putting it into
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action. And so finally one year
I think in 2019 I was at an ASI
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convention and I just was seeing
all of these ministries doing
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what they were doing and I was
like, Lord, you've called me to
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do this. These people can do it,
why can't I? So I finally a few
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months after that went to
my parents who also had this
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feeling, a burning desire to
start a ministry for a long time
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and he's never done it. He said
this is what I want to do and I
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need your help. So thankfully
I had knowledgeable parents and
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they helped us start a nonprofit
and in March of 2020, we
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started, established,
GoThere4 Ministries nonprofit.
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Amen, that's amazing. And so we
were talking behind the scenes
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about the kind of a little joke
about how you know during COVID
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during the time when everyone's
supposed to be quiet and they're
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telling you remain at home and
remain still and remain grounded
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and not go out...You guys are
starting a ministry entitled Go
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There4, right. A little bit
of irony in that but it's an
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awesome mission, man.
So Go There4 Ministries was
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established for the sole purpose
of making disciples for Christ.
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Fulfilling the commission by
Jesus Christ. And I love, I love
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what you said there you kept
repeating over and over, I just
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had this on my heart, I had this
on my heart. You know Lord if
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they can do it why can't I do it
And I love that because you know
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there's a natural response that
when the Holy Spirit lights your
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world up okay, and this
has happened to me as well. It
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happens to everyone. If you
fall in love with Jesus and you
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really truly understand who
Christ is and what he's done for
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you. You cannot be quiet
about it. You can't contain the
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excitement and the energy within
you to want to go forward and do
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something about what Christ has
done for you. In other words to
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respond to that commission and
actually, follow through with
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it. And so that's exactly what
you are Lord I don't want to
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remain idle, I'm not going to
warm a bench, I'm not going to
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sit on the sidelines and cheer
you on from the sidelines. I
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want to be involved. I want to
be a disciple and I want to go
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forward and make disciples. So
that's what this is all about.
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Now Kani tell us how you
got involved and came into the
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picture because it sounds
like this ministry was kind of
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already put together or
established and then you came
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along later. Tell us how
you got involved with Go There4.
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It's a long awesome story so.
Me and Tanner, we're the best of
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friends. We're buddies. We do
ministry together but we didn't
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always have this relationship.
So it's funny. Whenever I used
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to go to my old church, I would
always see him and his parents
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you know coming to the church
and I would say you know hi to
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them. I would say hi there
Tanner but we didn't really have
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a relationship. But I remember
that there was this basketball
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league that like the church has
or whatever. I forget what it's
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called but Tanner actually was
the coach of that league and so
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he a bunch of us from the church
and from another church and to
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be part of a team. So we all
were part of a team and Tanner
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was the coach and so that's
the relationship me and him had.
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He was my
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basketball coach and I was you
know the student so to speak.
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And you know this was like
probably in 2019, I would say,
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2018, 2019 and so that's the
relationship we had and then I
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remember on day Tanner called
me, he called me and said that
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he was starting up this ministry
and they were going to start up
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and have worship services on
Friday, like Friday nights, and
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he asked me if I wanted to be
involved, if I wanted to come.
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And I told him that "I'll think
about it and get back to him"
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Funny story, I never
got back to him but...
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He had intentions, good
intentions, Yeah I got you.
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I guess I forgot about it.
But then you know like the Holy
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Spirit just put in my mind just
to call him back. And I called
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him back, you know I guess I'll
just try it out. I'll just come.
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And it's been history from
there but it's just an amazing
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testimony this force really
communicates the fact that
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God will literally
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use whatever's possible to
like accomplish His mission and
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Tanner says all the time you
know he was praying for somebody
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he was praying for someone a
right-hand man, that's how you
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say that, a right-hand man.
And he tells me all the time you
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know I was the answer to that
prayer. So I mean God is good
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and God has blessed us and He's
brought us together. He used
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basketball to sort of have,
so that we have that trust. And
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then it just grew from there so
that's just kind of like how I
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got involved.
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Amen, amen. So a series of Bible
studies ended in you getting
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involved and becoming more in
love with Jesus Christ and then
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now you guys...do you travel?
As you get invitations you
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travel in the ministry as people
invite you guys to come out and
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you go and do discipleship
training or...Talk about
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specifically what does Go There4
do? If someone reaches out to
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your ministry and says we want
to invite you to come out what
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specifically, do you guys do,
what has God laid on your heart
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to accomplish
through this ministry?
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Um yeah so essentially right
now there are two parts of our
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ministry I would say. We've just
been starting getting to media
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ministry and social media
ministry and God has blessed
00:19:14.68\00:19:17.45
there, but the meat and potatoes
of what we do is...You know my
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Dad came into the church as a
result of like the Net 97, Net
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98 series so he has that passion
for you know (public evangelism)
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yeah, public evangelism. Good
old fashioned tent campaigns and
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stuff like that. And so up
to this point over the past two
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years we've had the privilege
of going to churches and doing
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evangelistic campaigns and
things of that nature and you
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know God blessed for sure but
there's just always this part in
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our hearts you know we can
do a little bit more. There's
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something more we can do because
up to that point, we had been
00:19:48.68\00:19:53.39
going to the church and pretty
much doing all of the things
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rather than getting the
church members involved.
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Got you, yep. That seems to
be kind of a classic experience
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again not to be judgmental
or critical but sometimes that's
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kind of the idea. The churches
they've got this money, they
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want to do evangelism, they
feel the need to do evangelism
00:20:09.24\00:20:11.41
and they'll invite
the evangelist to come and
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it seems like the evangelist
ends up doing all the work that
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the church should be involved
in right? And so you guys caught
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onto that and now you want to do
something about it. Am I right?
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Yeah really. So now what we've
been doing is obviously when
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when we're invited to speak,
God's called us there, we'll
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still do that but what we
really really want to, where our
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heart's really at, we do these
things called partnerships now
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and what we've been doing, we
have two of them starting this
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summer, is we want to get into
the trenches, get into the nitty
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gritty with the local church
members. So rather than just
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coming and doing evangelistic
and leaving, we want to be
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involved with things such as
the prework, getting out in the
00:20:49.14\00:20:52.71
community and reaching out,
training the church members how
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to disciple people in everyday
life. Even, sometimes even help
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with the postwork. So like
one church where we're going to
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start partnering with soon
we're partnering with them for
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a whole year and we're going to
be almost a whole year of just
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going there on a monthly basis.
They're a local church so we can
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do this but on a monthly basis
and going out in the community
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doing service projects, teaching
the members how to you know be
00:21:18.24\00:21:23.85
evangelistic-minded and mission
minded in their everyday lives
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and so we get to rather
than just show up and do the
00:21:27.55\00:21:31.25
evangelistic series, we get to
be in these people's lives, get
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to know them. And hopefully
by the end of this year have a
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reaping event and
reap the seed we've sowed.
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I love that, I love that. So and
I'm going to get to it in just a
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moment I'm going to ask
you about your philosophy of
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evangelism or your philosophy
of discipleship, but I want to
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just touch on what
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you just said because it's one
thing to go in and you are on
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fire, right, you're excited
You personally want to be a
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part of something but then you
look around and you see others
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you know they want to see
the work done but seems like
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sometimes oh it's a little more
difficult to get them involved
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and it ends up being one or
two or three people in a church
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doing all the work while
everybody else just kind of sits
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on the sidelines. But yet the
idea of the great commission is
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that everyone is involved. Total
member involvement. And so the
00:22:15.63\00:22:19.83
idea would be to establish
an evangelists training or an
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evangelistic plan a discipleship
plan to get everyone involved in
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so that everyone can find
their place or their part in the
00:22:28.94\00:22:32.55
evangelism work and in
the evangelistic cycle so that
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everyone is doing their part to
reach someone which brings me to
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my question and I want to ask
you guys this just from a young
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person's perspective. Because
when you talk about discipleship
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and when Jesus says go therefore
and make disciples, so what does
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that mean to you guys if
somebody comes to you and says
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okay we want you to come do
discipleship training. We want
00:22:54.84\00:22:57.07
you to help us to understand
what it means to be a true
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disciple for Christ. How do
you do that? What does that look
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like. What is your philosophy
or mentality or understanding of
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what it means to
make disciples for Christ?
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So in 2022, we went to a
conference. It was an evangelism
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conference in Tennessee and one
of the things that we learned,
00:23:17.76\00:23:23.73
it was me, Tanner, and our
other friend who worked with us,
00:23:23.77\00:23:25.10
Rodney, one of the things that
we learned about evangelism and
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what evangelism is
relationships. Building
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relationships and with those
relationships you can point to
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the one true relationship
that you need to have which is a
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relationship with Christ.
And so discipleship, I believe
00:23:36.24\00:23:39.85
discipleship is building
that relationship but while
00:23:39.88\00:23:44.85
simultaneously pointing to hey
you need to have a relationship
00:23:44.89\00:23:46.25
with Christ, with God. He longs
to have a relationship with you.
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And so that's why I believe it
is our philosophy so to speak of
00:23:50.86\00:23:54.16
evangelism of discipleship
is relationships, building
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relationships, getting to know
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each other and doing Bible
studies together and learning
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about Christ together and
so that's what I would say.
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I love that. I love that answer.
And it really, really is that
00:24:05.67\00:24:09.64
and I find that that goes along
with what we find in Ministry of
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Healing, p. 143 where Mrs. White
writes about Christ's method
00:24:13.82\00:24:17.89
alone brings true success in our
evangelistic efforts. Only the
00:24:17.92\00:24:23.09
way Christ did evangelism
can bring true success and some
00:24:23.12\00:24:26.83
people don't grasp that. The
idea that we've had so far up
00:24:26.86\00:24:31.03
to this point in many cases
for some people is that you know
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what I've got the Bible and
I know the message and I'm just
00:24:34.14\00:24:36.24
going to go out and give Bible
studies. Well that's great and
00:24:36.27\00:24:38.97
it's needed and that's an
important work. You know if you
00:24:39.01\00:24:41.81
can find someone who's
interested in doing Bible
00:24:41.84\00:24:44.08
studies absolutely we need to
be sharing the word. Absolutely
00:24:44.11\00:24:46.61
we need to be spending that time
leading and guiding them through
00:24:46.65\00:24:50.72
a systematic study of God's word
so that they can understand who
00:24:50.75\00:24:53.82
God is, His plan for their
life and all of these incredible
00:24:53.86\00:24:57.66
truths, exposing the darkness
and the darkest plans of the
00:24:57.69\00:25:01.06
devil while also bringing about
the light of Jesus through Bible
00:25:01.10\00:25:04.30
study. But that is just one
aspect of the evangelism cycle,
00:25:04.33\00:25:06.97
right. That is just the seed
sowing aspect. Before you can
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get to that point you have
to become friends with them. You
00:25:10.24\00:25:13.88
have to be able to disciple them
and a part of that discipleship
00:25:13.91\00:25:16.75
aspect is not just going in with
a Bible and saying are you ready
00:25:16.78\00:25:20.32
to study? Are you going to
listen to me while I teach you
00:25:20.35\00:25:21.92
all about the Bible. That's not
always where you begin. You have
00:25:21.95\00:25:24.82
to build that relationship, you
have to build the confidence in
00:25:24.85\00:25:28.59
you and sometimes that means
going out of your way to go do
00:25:28.62\00:25:31.86
something fun with someone.
It means sometimes going and
00:25:31.89\00:25:35.30
spending time with them. Hey you
know what guys? You want to go
00:25:35.33\00:25:38.40
shoot some hoops, let's go shoot
some hoops. You like basketball,
00:25:38.43\00:25:40.60
you like basketball. We're
having a basketball game this
00:25:40.64\00:25:43.44
Saturday or Sunday or this
Friday. Whatever it is you know
00:25:43.47\00:25:46.68
we're just going to get together
and shoot some hoops and just
00:25:46.71\00:25:49.54
have some fun. That discipleship
friendship relationship factor
00:25:49.58\00:25:54.22
must happen before you can
build their trust and their
00:25:54.25\00:25:58.49
confidence to believe you or to
listen you to give them a Bible
00:25:58.52\00:26:02.02
study. And so I love what
you guys are doing here. That's
00:26:02.06\00:26:04.49
great. And so
00:26:04.53\00:26:05.86
these partnerships, so you
get partnership...Tell us about
00:26:05.89\00:26:08.66
these partnerships, how do
they happen, how does someone
00:26:08.70\00:26:10.60
partner with you and what
does that entail, what does that
00:26:10.63\00:26:12.77
involve for someone to create
or have a partnership with Go
00:26:12.80\00:26:16.47
There4 Ministry?
00:26:16.50\00:26:17.97
Yeah, for sure. So we tailor
each partnership according to
00:26:18.01\00:26:22.71
the needs of that specific
church. I would say so far when
00:26:22.74\00:26:25.81
we put these partnerships
together, each partnership will
00:26:25.85\00:26:29.32
at least have three things. It
would have a revival to start it
00:26:29.35\00:26:33.79
out because you know like I said
I have a testimony of someone
00:26:33.82\00:26:38.09
who grew up in the church. A lot
of time people have been in the
00:26:38.13\00:26:39.59
church for years or grew up in
the church. Sadly the gospel can
00:26:39.63\00:26:43.90
get stale. And you know honestly
the gospel is not something
00:26:43.93\00:26:48.74
we're wanting to get stale. So
that's the first step I think as
00:26:48.77\00:26:51.21
we go into a church would with
mainly people...they can invite
00:26:51.24\00:26:54.68
their friends and stuff but
it's mainly for the purpose of
00:26:54.71\00:26:56.54
getting the church on fire again
Hopefully helping them to revive
00:26:56.58\00:26:59.91
that walk with God and fall in
love with Jesus all over again.
00:26:59.95\00:27:02.45
So that's the first step. The
second step of our partnerships
00:27:02.48\00:27:07.39
are basically the whole in
between the revival and the
00:27:07.42\00:27:11.89
revival and the reaping event
where we come in. We will do
00:27:11.93\00:27:15.86
evangelism training. Not
necessarily training. We always
00:27:15.90\00:27:18.13
word it that way but you know
we're still young. We're not
00:27:18.17\00:27:21.07
experts. What we want to do more
than anything is facilitate a
00:27:21.10\00:27:23.17
discussion, actually get people
thinking, actually get their
00:27:23.20\00:27:27.41
mind going about how they can be
more effective in evangelism and
00:27:27.44\00:27:33.01
the discipleship process. So if
it's a local church we can come
00:27:33.05\00:27:35.45
more often throughout that time.
If the church is not so local it
00:27:35.48\00:27:39.29
would be more of a go in
there in person once or twice,
00:27:39.32\00:27:41.69
maybe three times
00:27:41.72\00:27:43.06
and then just walking with them
from a distance. At the end, by
00:27:43.09\00:27:48.56
God's grace, a reaping event. I
think I said reaping seeds that
00:27:48.60\00:27:52.87
we've sown but in reality
reaping the seeds that have been
00:27:52.90\00:27:55.30
sown by every local church
member getting every single
00:27:55.34\00:27:58.47
person involved and getting them
out there journeying with people
00:27:58.51\00:28:01.64
I love that, I love that. It's
very similar, there's a reason
00:28:01.68\00:28:04.68
why Jesus used the like
horticulture, you know, planting
00:28:04.71\00:28:10.65
the nature metaphors so often
in His parables in His teachings
00:28:10.69\00:28:16.49
He likened the kingdom...I
think there's like three or four
00:28:16.52\00:28:19.96
nature-type parables that He
tells that He likens the kingdom
00:28:20.00\00:28:22.23
of God unto you know a sower
sowing some seed, you know a
00:28:22.26\00:28:26.63
vine dresser who goes away and
comes back. That aspect is there
00:28:26.67\00:28:30.57
and I find that evangelism is
very much like that. It's like
00:28:30.61\00:28:33.31
planting, let's say for instance
a tomato plant. No one in their
00:28:33.34\00:28:38.48
entire life has ever went out to
the ground and held some tomato
00:28:38.51\00:28:45.12
seeds in their hand and just
throw them out there and walk
00:28:45.15\00:28:47.86
away. I mean I'm not saying that
there has never been a tomato
00:28:47.89\00:28:49.96
plant that accidentally came
about because of something like
00:28:49.99\00:28:53.50
that but that's not how you
garden. When you get ready to
00:28:53.53\00:28:56.10
garden you're serious about
growing healthy vibrant plants
00:28:56.13\00:28:59.13
that's going to produce a crop
that you're going to harvest you
00:28:59.17\00:29:02.17
don't just go out there to some
random plot of ground. You don't
00:29:02.20\00:29:05.21
go out there to the gravel or to
especially not to a, obviously
00:29:05.24\00:29:10.28
to a pavement of some kind and
just throw some seeds out there
00:29:10.31\00:29:13.38
and then walk away, Okay Lord.
I mean that's not how it works.
00:29:13.42\00:29:16.75
There's a process of building up
before you can reap you know to
00:29:16.79\00:29:23.89
have that great harvest and
reap And so there's an intricate
00:29:23.93\00:29:26.33
process and that's what you guys
are helping churches to do in
00:29:26.36\00:29:30.87
that prework preparatory process
of getting to the point to where
00:29:30.90\00:29:34.77
that reaping event is worth
all of the stuff that you've
00:29:34.80\00:29:37.97
been working hard to build up
to that point. And so give me an
00:29:38.01\00:29:41.51
example, just...you don't have
to go through everything because
00:29:41.54\00:29:43.41
I know it's an intricate process
but give me an example of what
00:29:43.45\00:29:46.82
are some of the prework items
that you would help a church.
00:29:46.85\00:29:49.35
Like if they come to you and
say we don't have a clue about
00:29:49.38\00:29:52.49
what we're doing, we don't know
what in the world we're doing?
00:29:52.52\00:29:54.42
We want to prepare for an
evangelistic campaign seven
00:29:54.46\00:29:58.53
months, eight months, nine
months or a year from now, how
00:29:58.56\00:30:01.83
can we best prepare for that? So
what are some of the things that
00:30:01.86\00:30:04.27
you would lead and guide a
church through in that prework
00:30:04.30\00:30:06.80
process?
00:30:06.84\00:30:08.17
Um yes. So um one of the
things we are planning with the
00:30:08.20\00:30:12.11
partnership that's going to
be a year-long, ones that we can
00:30:12.14\00:30:14.94
actually, get in the trenches
with is we're going to be having
00:30:14.98\00:30:17.85
these discussions, we're
going to have something like a
00:30:17.88\00:30:20.55
discussion of those training
sessions once a month. One of
00:30:20.58\00:30:23.69
the cool things that I like that
we're doing with that church in
00:30:23.72\00:30:26.25
particular we're actually going
to go and knock on the doors in
00:30:26.29\00:30:29.36
the community. We're not
going to go and say hey here's a
00:30:29.39\00:30:32.89
literature tract. We're not
doing any of that. We're going
00:30:32.93\00:30:34.26
go and knock on the door and
just say we're here with blah
00:30:34.30\00:30:37.03
blah, blah church, whatever
church it may be. Is there any
00:30:37.07\00:30:42.74
way we can bless you today. Try
to help the people. We've heard
00:30:42.77\00:30:45.67
a lot of testimonies of churches
that have done these in the past
00:30:45.71\00:30:48.54
and people getting marriage
counseling from the pastor just
00:30:48.58\00:30:55.35
because they helped them
fix their care and stuff of that
00:30:55.38\00:30:57.39
nature. That's an easy way to
build relationship. Don't come
00:30:57.42\00:31:00.36
with another agenda so to speak.
Of course, we want everybody to
00:31:00.39\00:31:04.13
fall in love with Jesus but you
want to come with the approach
00:31:04.16\00:31:07.53
of hey we're here to help you
out. We just want to bless you.
00:31:07.56\00:31:10.60
We want to be in your life. And
then from there, as you said,
00:31:10.63\00:31:14.57
build that relationship, build
that friendship and journey with
00:31:14.60\00:31:16.91
people as they journey to Jesus.
00:31:16.94\00:31:18.51
That's amazing. Praise the Lord.
Praise the Lord. And so again
00:31:18.54\00:31:22.81
building those relationships
and that takes time, that takes
00:31:22.84\00:31:26.35
effort takes you and I doing
our part to maybe step up out of
00:31:26.38\00:31:30.19
our comfort zone, outside of our
little bubble and do something
00:31:30.22\00:31:33.49
with someone, create a
relationship and be active in a
00:31:33.52\00:31:37.03
person's life in order to build
up that confidence and that
00:31:37.06\00:31:41.10
trust for you to be able to
deliver the message to them.
00:31:41.13\00:31:43.83
So I love that. All right. So
let's talk about, you know, you
00:31:43.87\00:31:48.20
guys actually...you
conduct evangelistic campaigns?
00:31:48.24\00:31:50.77
I'll let him talk a little bit
about the evangelistic campaigns
00:31:50.81\00:31:55.58
we do but one of the things that
I think is kind of interesting
00:31:55.61\00:31:59.11
we're kind of going into as
well We do conduct evangelistic
00:31:59.15\00:32:02.82
campaigns but if there's a
church that like say hey we
00:32:02.85\00:32:06.02
already have this evangelist
coming but we want help with the
00:32:06.05\00:32:08.92
prework that's something we
do as well. We'll come and just
00:32:08.96\00:32:11.26
get with the church, help with
the prework. You know we do have
00:32:11.29\00:32:14.36
this message on our hearts and
we love preaching the gospel and
00:32:14.40\00:32:17.80
doing evangelistic campaigns
but at the same time, you know
00:32:17.83\00:32:20.64
whatever we can do to help
that's what we want. We want to
00:32:20.67\00:32:22.70
get all hands on deck
and so whether it's us doing
00:32:22.74\00:32:26.57
evangelistic campaigns which
we love to do or if it's us just
00:32:26.61\00:32:29.94
coming and getting in the
trenches and trying to help the
00:32:29.98\00:32:32.15
church become more
mission minded we do that.
00:32:32.18\00:32:34.72
They invite you to come preach
campaign, what does that consist
00:32:34.75\00:32:39.05
of, what does your campaign look
like? How long is it? Is there a
00:32:39.09\00:32:43.83
special time? Is there a happy
length of, a perfect length of
00:32:43.86\00:32:49.76
meetings, topic series that
you preach? What does yours look
00:32:49.80\00:32:53.20
like, brother?
00:32:53.23\00:32:54.57
Yeah, so I'll just tell you one
of the ones that we have done
00:32:54.60\00:32:57.67
in the past and that we
are going to do very soon is a
00:32:57.71\00:33:00.48
series called God Equals Love
with a question mark at the end.
00:33:00.51\00:33:02.81
And basically what it's about is
I mean, it's about the fact that
00:33:02.84\00:33:07.75
you know he who does not love
does not know God, for God is
00:33:07.78\00:33:11.05
love. That's what the Bible says
and I believe that we believe
00:33:11.09\00:33:13.72
that but many people have
questions about that. Okay if
00:33:13.76\00:33:16.62
God is love then why did this
happen, why did that happen, why
00:33:16.66\00:33:19.86
like why is there so much pain?
Why is there so much evil in the
00:33:19.89\00:33:23.30
world? And that's what the
series is about. We're trying
00:33:23.33\00:33:27.34
to...we're not trying to explain
away people's suffering but
00:33:27.37\00:33:29.60
we're trying to say that
hey despite all of this, despite
00:33:29.64\00:33:34.58
though we're going through this
situation, despite this, despite
00:33:34.61\00:33:37.61
that this may have happened, God
did not cause it because God is
00:33:37.65\00:33:40.75
not the author of confusion
because with Christ there is
00:33:40.78\00:33:45.15
unity, but there is an
enemy, there is an enemy who has
00:33:45.19\00:33:49.66
thwarted God's original plan
that He had for humanity and so
00:33:49.69\00:33:53.66
we are trying to look at
biblical examples hey despite
00:33:53.70\00:33:56.40
all of this God is still love
and God is still good. So that's
00:33:56.43\00:34:00.10
one of the series that we've
done and we actually have many
00:34:00.14\00:34:02.90
more. Another series that we
have which is a prophecy series
00:34:02.94\00:34:06.01
is called Eden to Eden and
basically the philosophy behind
00:34:06.04\00:34:09.98
that is that the Bible begins
in Eden, Genesis chapter one and
00:34:10.01\00:34:13.55
two and Revelation chapter
21 and 22 the Bible ends in Eden
00:34:13.58\00:34:17.75
and everything in between is God
trying to restore that face to
00:34:17.79\00:34:21.52
face relationship. And so we
begin in the Garden of Eden and
00:34:21.56\00:34:25.26
then we end in the Garden of
Eden. So yeah that's just one
00:34:25.29\00:34:28.76
of the prophecy series that
we talk about you know prophecy
00:34:28.80\00:34:30.73
and you know just how God has
worked throughout history but
00:34:30.77\00:34:34.07
that's just two of the
prophecies and then we have
00:34:34.10\00:34:37.37
another revival series called
The Good Shepherd and that
00:34:37.41\00:34:41.74
one...let me tell you the way
that series came about was I got
00:34:41.78\00:34:47.35
it one day. I read my Bible.
This was when I was probably
00:34:47.38\00:34:50.22
like 17. So I got up. I read
my Bible. I read this passage of
00:34:50.25\00:34:53.79
scripture that said, Jesus said
I am the good shepherd. The good
00:34:53.82\00:34:56.09
Shepherd gives his life for the
sheep. And so I was so inspired
00:34:56.12\00:34:59.33
by that I wrote a sermon
about it and I preached it and
00:34:59.36\00:35:01.86
Tanner heard it and he made
a follow-up sermon to that and
00:35:01.90\00:35:04.70
then that just birthed into
a four day revival series. So
00:35:04.73\00:35:08.37
that's just some of the series
that we've done in the past and
00:35:08.40\00:35:11.27
we're We actually have a video
of you guys, the God Equals Love
00:35:11.31\00:35:18.21
with a question mark. We have
a little promotional video that
00:35:18.25\00:35:19.58
kind of gives an idea of setting
up for you coming and doing that
00:35:19.61\00:35:23.59
series. So let's look
at that video right now.
00:35:23.62\00:35:27.69
Was it really supposed to
be this way? Why would an all
00:35:27.72\00:35:31.23
powerful designer treat a world
like this? There is so much pain
00:35:31.26\00:35:35.20
and suffering, natural disasters
acts of evil and injustice. How
00:35:35.23\00:35:41.10
can there possibly be an all
powerful and all-loving Creator?
00:35:41.14\00:35:44.54
Pain and suffering are words
that we are all familiar with.
00:35:44.57\00:35:52.51
How can God possibly be love
when there is so much turmoil
00:35:52.55\00:35:57.05
in the world. If God is all
powerful couldn't He stop all
00:35:57.09\00:36:00.72
pain from happening. If God is
all loving why wouldn't He stop
00:36:00.76\00:36:04.59
all the pain, suffering, and
evil Scripture makes its claims
00:36:04.63\00:36:09.83
clear God is indeed the
all-powerful Creator. Scripture
00:36:09.86\00:36:13.54
also said explicitly that God is
love. Can these two claims both
00:36:13.57\00:36:18.47
be true given the state of the
world in which we live? How can
00:36:18.51\00:36:23.68
we know for sure that... ¤ ¤
00:36:23.71\00:36:37.96
Wow man that's cool! I love that
So that right there I mean I
00:36:37.99\00:36:42.40
love that subject because that's
really one of the heart issues
00:36:42.43\00:36:45.23
in any evangelistic campaign.
If you're not addressing
00:36:45.27\00:36:48.80
there and addressing that
issue. You don't really have a
00:36:48.84\00:36:52.37
foundation to build on because
at the end of the day people
00:36:52.41\00:36:55.18
want to know how can I trust a
God that allows all of these bad
00:36:55.21\00:36:59.31
things to happen. Or
maybe they've been through some
00:36:59.35\00:37:01.22
personal things themselves, some
trials and tribulations in their
00:37:01.25\00:37:04.99
life. Maybe they've lost a loved
one. Maybe they have some kind
00:37:05.02\00:37:07.72
of life-threatening disease
or whatever. Maybe they have a
00:37:07.76\00:37:10.83
friend or someone who's going
through something and people ask
00:37:10.86\00:37:14.40
those questions. You know why if
God is so loving then why does
00:37:14.43\00:37:16.30
He allows these things to go on?
And I love that you guys have
00:37:16.33\00:37:19.63
series' that answers that
question but prepares people's
00:37:19.67\00:37:24.57
hearts to be able to understand
from a biblical perspective who
00:37:24.61\00:37:27.64
God really is. And so that's
powerful. Praise the Lord for
00:37:27.68\00:37:30.08
that. Praise the Lord for that.
And I love how you guys also do
00:37:30.11\00:37:32.91
revival, you said you had a four
day revival seminar. Let's talk
00:37:32.95\00:37:38.39
about that for just a moment
because we're talking about
00:37:38.42\00:37:41.49
Go There4. A lot of times our
minds are we got to go out, we
00:37:41.52\00:37:45.06
got to find these people that
don't know what we know and we
00:37:45.09\00:37:47.83
got to share with them all
of these amazing truths. But of
00:37:47.86\00:37:51.20
course I find that often
times churches want to do that
00:37:51.23\00:37:55.40
evangelism, their hearts in the
right place in the sense that
00:37:55.44\00:37:59.24
they know that they want to take
that commission seriously. They
00:37:59.27\00:38:02.11
want to hold that evangelistic
campaign. They want to move
00:38:02.14\00:38:06.01
forward in reaching new souls
with the gospel of Jesus and to
00:38:06.05\00:38:10.05
hear these incredible life
changing truths that they know
00:38:10.09\00:38:12.99
themselves. But oftentimes we
find some churches aren't ready
00:38:13.02\00:38:16.49
for that evangelism or
those newcomers to come into the
00:38:16.52\00:38:20.86
church because they themselves
need to be reintroduced to Jesus
00:38:20.90\00:38:23.77
So talk about that. When you're
going into a church that has
00:38:23.80\00:38:27.97
reached out to you and says hey
we need you to come and teach us
00:38:28.00\00:38:32.24
how to disciple others. We need
you to come help us prepare for
00:38:32.27\00:38:35.54
this reaping event or this
campaign or this evangelistic
00:38:35.58\00:38:38.51
series, and you see that need
of revival talk to us about the
00:38:38.55\00:38:42.85
importance of that and how you
go about capturing that vision
00:38:42.88\00:38:47.39
in the minds of the church
members because sometimes that's
00:38:47.42\00:38:49.72
a hard pill to swallow when
they have to come to grips with
00:38:49.76\00:38:54.40
understanding that you know
what before you move on to do
00:38:54.43\00:38:57.67
outreach you need to do a little
bit of in-reach first. Talk
00:38:57.70\00:39:00.67
about the importance of that
and the significance of that.
00:39:00.70\00:39:02.94
Sure you know I mean I think
I can speak on behalf of both of
00:39:02.97\00:39:07.78
us. The passion that we have is
really just diving deep into the
00:39:07.81\00:39:12.05
character of God. And as
you said before once you fall in
00:39:12.08\00:39:16.02
love with Jesus you just
have this burning desire in your
00:39:16.05\00:39:18.42
heart that makes you want to go.
And so we recognize that when we
00:39:18.45\00:39:22.29
go to these churches if that
burning desire is not in their
00:39:22.32\00:39:25.29
heart well then they're not
going to want to Go There4. And
00:39:25.33\00:39:28.10
so we have this four-day revival
series that we start off pretty
00:39:28.13\00:39:32.17
much every partnership with
even before we even talk about
00:39:32.20\00:39:37.11
evangelism, we show up. We
do this revival called The Good
00:39:37.14\00:39:39.87
Shepherd and I guess we'll walk
through it a little bit. The way
00:39:39.91\00:39:42.61
we look at The Good Shepherd
revival is it almost takes you
00:39:42.64\00:39:45.21
through the Christian journey
in four days. It starts off with
00:39:45.25\00:39:49.08
The Good Shepherd. My buddy Kani
here he presents it, and that
00:39:49.12\00:39:54.56
message...why don't I...you tell
them about the Good Shepherd.
00:39:54.59\00:39:56.12
Tell us about that Good Shepherd
Tell us about that Good Shepherd
00:39:56.16\00:39:59.46
So what's awesome is whenever
we go to the Bible and we go to
00:39:59.49\00:40:03.40
1 John chapter 4 verse 8 which
says: He who does not love does
00:40:03.43\00:40:06.43
not know God for God is
love. This is awesome, this is
00:40:06.47\00:40:09.60
incredible but we have to define
that love. Because when we go
00:40:09.64\00:40:13.94
through the biblical definition
of love: Love is not feeling or
00:40:13.98\00:40:16.14
an emotion or a man I just feel
so good. It's not that. Love is
00:40:16.18\00:40:19.78
a principle and that principle
says you are more important to
00:40:19.81\00:40:23.55
me than I am to myself. And when
we go to the Bible version where
00:40:23.59\00:40:27.66
Jesus says I am the good
shepherd. The good shepherd
00:40:27.69\00:40:29.79
does what? He gives his life for
his sheep. Why does he give his
00:40:29.82\00:40:32.69
life for the sheep? Because He
loves His sheep. And so that's
00:40:32.73\00:40:36.30
what the first message is about.
What is the Creator of the
00:40:36.33\00:40:39.57
universe doing on an instrument
of torture. Well He's just being
00:40:39.60\00:40:43.10
Himself. He's displaying who and
what God is and three words best
00:40:43.14\00:40:46.64
describe who God is: God is love
That's what the first message is
00:40:46.68\00:40:50.61
about.
00:40:50.65\00:40:51.98
I love that. Just before
we go on the second, third and
00:40:52.01\00:40:53.58
message I got to just nail this
down folks. This is so important
00:40:53.62\00:40:57.32
Many people in their Bible study
efforts in trying to revive or
00:40:57.35\00:41:02.32
share the "truth" with someone
they'll go to the Good Shepherd
00:41:02.36\00:41:06.70
but their message surrounding
the good shepherd is they'll go
00:41:06.73\00:41:10.37
immediately to the rules, in
other words, the 10 commandments
00:41:10.40\00:41:13.03
and the law. My friend again
you have heard if you know my
00:41:13.07\00:41:16.54
ministry you know what we are
here about at 3ABN. We know that
00:41:16.57\00:41:19.87
there is a special, special
place for the message of the law
00:41:19.91\00:41:22.61
and the commandments. We believe
in the commandments, we believe
00:41:22.64\00:41:24.91
in upholding the commandments
but at the end of the day when
00:41:24.95\00:41:27.48
you're trying to revive someone
if someone needs revival, you
00:41:27.52\00:41:31.65
need to introduce them to
the good shepherd, you need to
00:41:31.69\00:41:34.49
answer that question, What
is love. You need to define that
00:41:34.52\00:41:37.23
love and I love how you
said it really is defined not by
00:41:37.26\00:41:41.13
emotions, not by feelings,
not by necessarily what you have
00:41:41.16\00:41:44.83
done but what He has done
and what He has done is given
00:41:44.87\00:41:50.61
Himself for His people. In other
words, it puts the message on
00:41:50.64\00:41:52.54
the cross. My mind immediately
went to Philippians chapter 2
00:41:52.57\00:41:56.51
which says here...I love these
opening verses. Many people when
00:41:56.54\00:41:59.78
think of Philippians 2 think
right to verse 5 which says, Let
00:41:59.81\00:42:02.45
this mind be in you which was
also in Christ Jesus, but they
00:42:02.48\00:42:04.99
don't read the verses before
which really really sums this up
00:42:05.02\00:42:07.82
It says: Therefore if any is
consolation in Christ, if any
00:42:07.86\00:42:12.83
comfort of love, any fellowship
of the Spirit, if any affection
00:42:12.86\00:42:15.86
and mercy fulfill my joy by
being likeminded having the same
00:42:15.90\00:42:21.04
love, being of one accord and
of one mind. Now what does that
00:42:21.07\00:42:23.41
look like? What does that
love mind look like? Here it is.
00:42:23.44\00:42:24.77
Let nothing be done through
selfish ambition or conceit.
00:42:24.81\00:42:29.98
But in lowliness of mind let
each esteem others better than
00:42:30.01\00:42:36.08
himself. And then verse 4: Let
each of you look out not only
00:42:36.12\00:42:40.22
for his own interests but
also for the interest of others.
00:42:40.26\00:42:42.86
It's that you know what I do
love myself but I love you more
00:42:42.89\00:42:46.59
than I love myself. In other
words I'm going to put myself...
00:42:46.63\00:42:48.60
I prefer you over myself. That's
exactly what Jesus does and it's
00:42:48.63\00:42:53.77
exactly what the good shepherd
does. I love that. So then once
00:42:53.80\00:42:55.90
you've established that
point, you move on to the second
00:42:55.94\00:42:58.91
message and what is that?
00:42:58.94\00:43:00.28
Um, it is entitled Feed My
Sheep. So the first message is
00:43:00.31\00:43:04.18
kind of like the first step of
the Christian journey. You fall
00:43:04.21\00:43:06.35
in love with Jesus. You
guys captured exactly what the
00:43:06.38\00:43:08.95
message was about. And because
we see the love that Jesus has
00:43:08.98\00:43:13.32
for us we in turn fall in love
with Him and that's what starts
00:43:13.36\00:43:16.12
this Christian journey. But
as we go along the Christian
00:43:16.16\00:43:18.76
journey then we have this
call to Go There4 and to feed my
00:43:18.79\00:43:21.26
sheep. And so that's pretty much
what the second message is about
00:43:21.30\00:43:24.17
We talk about God's calling on
our lives and how He calls each
00:43:24.20\00:43:28.54
and every person to be a
co-laborer with Him for the
00:43:28.57\00:43:31.27
salvation of others. We're not
just talking pastors, we're not
00:43:31.31\00:43:33.88
talking about the people that
have the "credentials." Every
00:43:33.91\00:43:38.48
single person that has a
relationship with Jesus has a
00:43:38.51\00:43:39.85
calling to feed His sheep and
so we dig into how we prepare to
00:43:39.88\00:43:44.99
feed His sheep and we talk about
the importance of...well we talk
00:43:45.02\00:43:50.13
about the importance of
gathering bread which is reading
00:43:50.16\00:43:52.33
the Bible so that we can
impart it to others. So that's
00:43:52.36\00:43:56.80
what the second message is about
00:43:56.83\00:43:58.17
Before you can go teach
others how to be sanctified you
00:43:58.20\00:44:00.20
yourselves had to be sanctified.
And so you have to make sure
00:44:00.24\00:44:02.87
that you are eating of the bread
I think of the sanctuary, right?
00:44:02.90\00:44:06.27
You have to have that courtyard
experience but then once you've
00:44:06.31\00:44:10.68
accepted Christ and are baptized
now it's important that you
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continue to eat of that bread
daily. Continue to you know open
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those lines of communication for
prayer you know. The altar of
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incense and then of course
letting your light shine for
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Jesus. So what does the
third message teach us about?
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The third message is entitled
The Lost Sheep. We're trying to
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keep the sheep theme. So what
is likely to happen when you
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know when a newborn first starts
to walk? Like they might fall
00:44:33.57\00:44:37.71
and stumble and that's in
essence what this message is
00:44:37.74\00:44:40.81
about. Because you know when
you're a new Bible-believing
00:44:40.84\00:44:43.45
Christian you know, you're
gathering bread, you're feeding
00:44:43.48\00:44:47.78
His sheep. But what's likely
to happen when you're a new
00:44:47.82\00:44:51.05
believer. You're going to fall,
you're going to stumble, you're
00:44:51.09\00:44:53.05
going to have
failures and the Bible says...
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You mean you're not
perfect from the very beginning?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah in the Bible
you know Bible says in the book
00:44:57.23\00:45:02.23
of Proverbs for a righteous
man falls seven times and rises
00:45:02.26\00:45:06.27
again but the wicked shall fall
by calamity. And notice that the
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difference between the righteous
and the wicked isn't that one
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falls and the other doesn't. No
the Bible says the righteous man
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falls seven times but the
difference is that he keeps
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rising again...
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He gets back up. (Exactly) He's
pressing forward. (Exactly) I
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love that.
00:45:20.02\00:45:21.72
Because he trusts his hand to
the hand of Jesus. That's what
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it's all about. And so that's
what that message is about
00:45:24.12\00:45:25.75
because we all like sheep have
gone astray, but praise God the
00:45:25.79\00:45:28.82
second, we go astray God is
in His rapid pursuit of us and
00:45:28.86\00:45:32.29
that's what this message
is about. I mean what is God's
00:45:32.33\00:45:35.70
posture towards us whenever we
fail, whenever we fall, whenever
00:45:35.73\00:45:38.93
we stumble. Does His posture
towards us change? No, He's
00:45:38.97\00:45:42.14
still a God of love. He's still
seeking out our best interest.
00:45:42.17\00:45:44.81
And that's what that
third message is about.
00:45:44.84\00:45:46.74
That's it, man. Right when
you were just saying that the
00:45:46.78\00:45:49.58
passage that came to my mind was
Jeremiah chapter 29 and verse 11
00:45:49.61\00:45:54.62
and onward. I love this because
again you're talking about what
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is God's thoughts towards us.
What is His belief? Often times
00:45:57.15\00:45:59.32
we have this idea that if we
fall or we stumble then God is
00:45:59.35\00:46:03.36
is up there kind of like you
know this angry, oh look at him,
00:46:03.39\00:46:07.00
look at her down there. Oh, man!
But God loves us so much and it
00:46:07.03\00:46:11.63
reminds me of this verse here
He says: For I know the thoughts
00:46:11.67\00:46:14.80
that I think toward you says
the Lord...This is Jeremiah 29
00:46:14.84\00:46:17.07
verses 11 and onward. He says
For I know the thoughts that I
00:46:17.11\00:46:20.04
think toward you says the Lord.
Thoughts of peace and not of
00:46:20.08\00:46:22.78
evil...I love that...to give you
a future and a hope. Then you
00:46:22.81\00:46:25.75
will call upon me and go and
pray to me and I will listen to
00:46:25.78\00:46:28.45
you and you will seek me and
find me when you search for me
00:46:28.48\00:46:31.55
with all your heart. And then
verse 14 very beginning it says:
00:46:31.59\00:46:34.46
And I will be found by you says
the Lord. I love that, I love
00:46:34.49\00:46:38.23
that. So God's not trying...it's
not like He's up there with a
00:46:38.26\00:46:42.60
magnifying glass trying to wait
for the next moment that we fall
00:46:42.63\00:46:45.53
so He can ahh look at this! You
know this failure. God is...He's
00:46:45.57\00:46:51.57
in it to win it. He wants
us to win. He wants us to be
00:46:51.61\00:46:54.18
successful. So we learn that
aspect in message three and then
00:46:54.21\00:46:57.21
how do we finish
up with message four?
00:46:57.25\00:46:59.95
Yeah, the last part is As
the Shepherd. When Jesus came to
00:46:59.98\00:47:03.18
this earth as a baby the first
time who was ready to receive
00:47:03.22\00:47:06.96
Him? The shepherds were. And so
we talk about how the shepherds
00:47:06.99\00:47:10.43
were the first time prepared to
receive Him, how we can be ready
00:47:10.46\00:47:14.46
for His second coming. So that's
pretty much how we bring the
00:47:14.50\00:47:17.63
revival to a close we go through
kind of like what the Christian
00:47:17.67\00:47:21.10
journey is like and we talk
about this good shepherd and His
00:47:21.14\00:47:25.44
love for us and one of
the things that he says in the
00:47:25.47\00:47:27.28
lost sheep message that love
and always sticks with me is the
00:47:27.31\00:47:33.01
value of something is determined
by the one who is willing to pay
00:47:33.05\00:47:36.95
the price. And so that's really
what this revival is about
00:47:36.99\00:47:41.32
trying to realize that you have
value and you have value because
00:47:41.36\00:47:44.93
of what Jesus did for you. Just
trying to reignite that love for
00:47:44.96\00:47:49.46
Jesus. By God's grace
hopefully to get them to fall so
00:47:49.50\00:47:53.00
passionately in love with Jesus
that they can't help but want
00:47:53.03\00:47:55.50
to share with others.
00:47:55.54\00:47:57.21
Amen. When you learn when you
finally and it clicks in your
00:47:57.24\00:48:00.04
mind and you comprehend who you
are to God, that you're not just
00:48:00.08\00:48:03.81
some speck in a world of eight
billion people, that you're not
00:48:03.85\00:48:08.18
just some little miniature atom
or little speck in this giant
00:48:08.22\00:48:12.79
cosmos of a universe that we
live in but yet you are on God's
00:48:12.82\00:48:17.36
mind even before you were
born. When you capture that and
00:48:17.39\00:48:19.79
understand that it changes
everything because now there's
00:48:19.83\00:48:22.66
value, so much value that the
God of the universe was willing
00:48:22.70\00:48:26.90
to go give His own life and
that was an eternal death, my
00:48:26.94\00:48:30.31
friends. A death that Jesus you
know at one point thought he was
00:48:30.34\00:48:33.21
never coming back from. My God,
my God, why have you forsaken
00:48:33.24\00:48:37.65
me? You know Jesus when He
took our sin upon Himself it
00:48:37.68\00:48:41.38
spiritually discombobulated
Him so much to the point that He
00:48:41.42\00:48:44.35
could not... He was experiencing
the full wrath of God and He
00:48:44.39\00:48:47.26
could not perceive the presence
of the Father. So that was the
00:48:47.29\00:48:51.09
price he was willing to pay, an
eternal death, in order to save
00:48:51.13\00:48:56.03
you. And when you grasp that and
that clicks with you then you
00:48:56.06\00:48:57.80
will not only have a love and
a passion for that God but you
00:48:57.83\00:49:01.57
will also want to go do
something about His kingdom, do
00:49:01.60\00:49:04.14
something about the commission
and the call that he's given
00:49:04.17\00:49:06.78
you. We have some pictures that
you guys have given, so let's
00:49:06.81\00:49:09.01
look at these pictures and
walk us through some of these
00:49:09.04\00:49:12.68
pictures. Pop up the first
one here. Tell us who is this.
00:49:12.71\00:49:16.05
Um this was the...we were
at a church down in Florida and
00:49:16.08\00:49:21.39
this was after the series that
we did. I believe it was the
00:49:21.42\00:49:26.36
Good Shepherd, we just talked
about it and that was all the
00:49:26.39\00:49:28.43
team that was
there for the photo.
00:49:28.46\00:49:29.86
Praise the Lord, praise the Lord
All right then this one here?
00:49:29.90\00:49:34.80
That was at our little two-year
anniversary celebration. We
00:49:34.84\00:49:40.88
had a Friday night series
that brought them in. We got
00:49:40.91\00:49:43.91
together on a Friday night,
worshipped with our local church
00:49:43.95\00:49:45.95
and we took a team picture.
Those are all the people that
00:49:45.98\00:49:49.25
work with us and volunteers.
00:49:49.28\00:49:50.69
There you are preaching
like a boss Tanner, nice.
00:49:50.72\00:49:54.29
Preached a fireman.
00:49:54.32\00:49:55.66
You look like you're into it
there. If you're not preaching
00:49:55.69\00:49:57.63
with passion, you're
not preaching, right?
00:49:57.66\00:49:58.99
That's right.
00:49:59.03\00:50:00.46
This is your media ministry
capture here? You guys are
00:50:00.50\00:50:02.96
recording. Nice, Praise the Lord
Is that for the YouTube channel?
00:50:03.00\00:50:06.23
Yes, we do. We did
Go There4 Ministries.
00:50:06.27\00:50:11.04
Kani preaching, all
right! Praise the Lord.
00:50:11.07\00:50:12.41
All right so how can people
get in touch with your ministry.
00:50:12.44\00:50:15.11
They want reach out. They want
to support. They want to have
00:50:15.14\00:50:17.95
you come to their church or
to provide some type of training
00:50:17.98\00:50:20.42
How can they get in
contact with you guys?
00:50:20.45\00:50:22.48
I would say the best way to get
in contact with us would be via
00:50:22.52\00:50:25.15
my email, my work email. That
would be Tanner@GoThere4.org
00:50:25.19\00:50:30.29
and I don't think it will be on
the screen but you can also do
00:50:30.33\00:50:32.59
Kani@GoThere4.org. That's an
easy way to get hold of either
00:50:32.63\00:50:35.26
one of us and we
can work out something.
00:50:35.30\00:50:39.23
You'll see that on the screen.
Tanner@GoThere4.org. That's the
00:50:39.27\00:50:44.11
number 4. org. Make sure you get
that number 4 in there. You guys
00:50:44.14\00:50:48.91
have a website also?
00:50:48.94\00:50:50.61
Yes. that is www.GoThere4.org
We do have a contact phone on
00:50:50.65\00:50:55.25
there but there you can see
all of our media ministry, our
00:50:55.28\00:50:59.92
resources and see some
of the team members we have.
00:50:59.95\00:51:03.16
Amen, praise the Lord. This has
been a blessing, a tremendous
00:51:03.19\00:51:06.56
blessing to have you on
the program today. We're not
00:51:06.59\00:51:09.40
actually finished just yet.
We're going to go to an address
00:51:09.43\00:51:12.03
roll in just a moment because
you may want to reach out to
00:51:12.07\00:51:15.27
these guys. You may want
to invite them. You know what,
00:51:15.30\00:51:17.14
it's great to have young people
come and present the gospel.
00:51:17.17\00:51:19.07
Again we have this idea
that young people they need
00:51:19.11\00:51:22.44
more experience
00:51:22.48\00:51:23.81
and while that's true for all of
us you know what, young people
00:51:23.85\00:51:25.98
can reach people that you can't.
And so in this case, I encourage
00:51:26.01\00:51:29.48
you to bring out GoThere4
ministry to let them bless you
00:51:29.52\00:51:32.89
in your church and your
community. Maybe it's a revival
00:51:32.92\00:51:35.76
you need, maybe it's an
evangelistic campaign you need,
00:51:35.79\00:51:38.23
or maybe you just need them
to come and help you prepare for
00:51:38.26\00:51:40.73
that evangelistic campaign.
GoThere4 Ministries is the place
00:51:40.76\00:51:44.53
to contact someone. This is how
you can get in contact with them
00:51:44.57\00:51:47.14
If you would like to contact
or know more about Go There4
00:51:47.17\00:51:51.67
Ministries you can do so in the
following ways. You can write
00:51:51.71\00:51:55.58
to them at 8405 US-301 Ste 102
Parrish, FL 34219 You can call
00:51:55.61\00:52:04.32
them at 1-(844) 684-3734. You
can also send them an email at
00:52:04.35\00:52:16.36
Tanner@GoThere4.org or
GoThere4Ministries@gmail.com
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