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¤ I want to spend my
life mending broken people ¤
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¤ I want to spend
my life removing pain ¤
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¤ Lord let my words
heal a heart that hurts ¤
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¤ I want to spend my
life mending broken people ¤
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Hello friends and welcome to
3ABN Today. My name is Ryan Day
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and this is one big giant
Day family program. I think. At
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least we're learning that we may
be connected or related somehow
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but today on the program we
have Dean and Hilda Day from
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Louisiana from the Lake Charles
area and my friends you're not
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going to go anywhere because
they have a powerful, powerful
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testimony of how the Lord
transformed them from one life
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style, living one way, kind of
just cruising through life until
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God sent a powerful influence
to Dean and Hilda both and they
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learned the truth through 3ABN
and now their life's not been
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the same again. And so we're
going to learn about all of that
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good stuff. It's a blessing
to have you guys. How you doing?
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Fine, thank you. Just fine.
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Praise the Lord, praise the Lord
And so we're going to get to
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learn a little bit more about
Dean and Hilda throughout this
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program. But before we dive deep
into their story and how God has
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transformed their life we're
going to be blessed by a special
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special song brought to us by
Moses Brown and our good friend
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Tim Parton and they're going to
be performing that classic song
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This Little Light of Mine.
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¤ ¤
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¤ This little light of
mine I'm gonna let it shine ¤
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¤ Oh This little light of
mine I'm gonna let it shine ¤
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¤ Oh this little light of
mine I'm gonna let it shine ¤
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¤ Let it shine, let
it shine let it shine ¤
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¤ Mmm Everywhere I go
I'm gonna let it shine ¤
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¤ Everywhere I go
church I'm gonna let it shine ¤
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¤ Oh everywhere you go
you gotta let it shine ¤
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¤ Let it shine, let
it shine, let it shine ¤
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¤ All around your neighborhood
You gotta let it shine ¤
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¤ All around your neighborhood
let this vertical message shine
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¤ All around your neighborhood
you gotta let it shine ¤
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¤ Let it shine, let
it shine, let it shine ¤
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¤ Oh Jesus on the main
line Tell Him what you want ¤
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¤ Jesus on the main
line Tell Him what you want ¤
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¤ Oh call him up and
tell Him what you want ¤
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¤ Oh if you're sick
and can't get well ¤
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¤ Tell Him what you want ¤
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¤ If you sick and can't get
well Tell Him what you want ¤
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¤ Oh if you sick
and can't get well ¤
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¤ Tell Him what you want ¤
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¤ Oh call Him up and
tell Him what you want ¤
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¤ If you need the Holy
Ghost Tell Him what you want ¤
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¤ If you need that Holy
Ghost Tell Him what you want ¤
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¤ Oh call Him up and
tell Him what you want ¤
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¤ ¤
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¤ Oh when the
saints go marching in ¤
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¤ Oh Lord I want
to be in that number ¤
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¤ When the
saints go marching in ¤
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¤ Oh when they
shout around the throne ¤
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¤ When they should
around the throne ¤
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¤ Oh Lord I want
to be in that number ¤
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¤ When they shout
around the throne ¤
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¤ Oh when they wear
that new white robe ¤
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¤ Oh Lord I want
to be in that number ¤
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¤ When they wear
that new white robe ¤
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¤ Oh when they walk
those streets of gold ¤
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(spoken) Gonna be there
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¤ When they walk
those streets of gold ¤
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¤ Oh Lord I want
to be in that number ¤
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¤ When they walk
those streets of gold ¤
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¤ Oh when the
saints go marching in ¤
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¤ When the
saints go marching in ¤
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¤ Oh Lord I want
to be in that number ¤
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¤ When the
saints go marching in! ¤
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Hallelujah
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Aha, Yes that's my kind of music
right there. This Little Light
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of Mine, it was medley
This Little Light of Mine,
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I think Jesus on
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the Mainline, and then When the
Saints Go Marching In. You know
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a lot of people consider those
to be children's songs but you
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know what there's a message
there even from some of us older
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folk as well. Some of the best
songs. Thank you, Brother Moses
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and Tim for that. I could tell
Tim was having a great time on
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that music. His fingers were
going. I'm sure if you could
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hear his feet were tapping away.
But anyway, Praise the Lord for
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that. Dean and Hilda Day. It's
such a blessing to have you guys
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here. And we were discussing
a little bit behind the scene
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before we actually came to
conduct this interview. We don't
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know exactly the connection but
we figured somewhere down the
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line we're connected and akin
to each other at some point. But
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it's a blessing to have you both
Since you're new here, this is
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your first time why don't
we start with just a general
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introduction, where you're from,
a little bit about yourself.
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I'll start with
you Dean. Go ahead.
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Well Dean Day from southwest
Louisiana, born and raised down
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there. Moved all over the state
of Louisiana. Worked for a major
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insurance company and graduated
from LSU (Louisiana State
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University) Go Tigers.
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Yeah LSU. And then Hilda you
were telling me just a little
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bit ago that you do have some,
a little bit of connection to
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Arkansas where I grew up because
your mother grew up not to far
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from Jonesboro, Arkansas in
the little small town of Bay so
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there may be a little something
there but tell us a little bit
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about where you're from also.
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Well I was raised in southwest
Louisiana and I also graduated
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from LSU.
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Ah, LSU alumni. I love it, I
love it. So you guys...tell me
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a little bit about...we're going
to kind of build up because we
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know that you guys eventually
came in contact with 3ABN or at
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least the programming of 3ABN.
And there was a mighty change
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and a transformation
began to happen because of the
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programming that you were
watching there and learning.
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But tell us...let's go back now,
let's look at life before you
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learned this new truth that's
in the Bible, before you got the
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complete story I guess we could
say. Tell us a little bit about
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what life was like for Dean and
Hilda before coming into this
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knowledge of the new truth
that you've learned and are
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living for.
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So being from South Louisiana
everything is a party everything
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about Louisiana come on down
we'll have a good time, right?
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That's what they say.
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That's right. So living life
in South Louisiana is incredibly
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fun. We have all these natural
resources and beauty. Long story
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short here come the parties
right behind that. Hilda and I
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were no different. We were, you
know, we were King and Queens of
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Mardi Gras crews and it
was wonderful. I mean we really
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enjoyed that.
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You don't get more of a party
atmosphere than Mardi Gras. I've
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never personally attended Mardi
Gras but I have seen clips, I've
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seen video footage. I've even
been to New Orleans. I've walked
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the famous Bourbon Street which
I've never been there of course
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during Mardi Gras but I've seen
and I've been in the atmosphere
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where the heart of that is
conducted and I mean some people
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would probably depending on I
guess what time and the nature
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of the celebration would
probably categorize it as the
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part of all parties.
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Indeed. Nothing like waking
up in the morning with a little
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bloody Mary and walking out to
the parade route, catching cheap
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beads, drinking all day long.
It was no big deal. And then you
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know waking up, go to church
on Sunday morning. Put my hours,
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put the time in
and I'm good with God.
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I mean when you guys were living
in this lifestyle, the partying,
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you know all of that that you
were doing at this particular
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point in your life you saw no
issue with it. In fact, ah, this
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is a part of life, this is
a part of our culture. This is
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just what we do. But what was
your...you mentioned going to
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church on Sunday so what was
your religious background like
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growing up?
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So I was raised Methodist and
my grandfather was a Methodist
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minister and Hilda...
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I was raised in just about every
protestant denomination. I went
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to whatever church was closest
to the house that I was living
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in. My mom and dad were
alcoholics and so we traveled to
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Right whatever church was nearby
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Okay and you know that's
interesting because I saw this
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years ago and it's kind of stuck
with me and I present this in my
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evangelistic series that one
of the most popular reasons that
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people choose a church is
exactly that. Whatever church is
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close by that's the church I'm
going to attend. And so that was
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that was basically the story
for you and your family. But I
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understand...Did your
family also have an alcoholic
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background or is
that just hers or...
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It was pretty much hers.
My folks had gotten themselves
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pretty much straight by the time
I was born and raised. I was an
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"old" child, a young man born
by older parents. Mother was 41
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years old when I was born.
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Got you. So what was it like
growing up in a Methodist home
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in a Methodist upbringing as
you got older I'm sure kind of
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engulfed yourself into this
party culture was there ever a
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time that the family was like
hey you probably shouldn't do
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that, probably shouldn't drink,
probably shouldn't be a part of
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that or is it in that religious
culture also just acceptable to
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go along with the celebrations
of Mardi Gras and the partying
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and all that?
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It's not really talked about a
lot. We all know that we do that
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I was talking to my father the
other day and he was telling me
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he's 95 years old. He was like
you know I have been praying for
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you for a very, very long time
So understand that there is a
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remnant that's out there
in other churches and other
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denominations. I just totally
believe that, somebody needs to
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hear this, that it's not
okay. Just not right with God.
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Right, absolutely, absolutely.
So growing up in that religious
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background, Methodism,
because you said that's what you
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primarily grew up in, Methodism,
was the Bible heavily emphasized
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or was it just, you just go to
church, try to be as good as you
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can. Like what was it like
in your religious experience you
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know growing up in a home of
someone who you know was a part
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of that Methodist movement?
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Every Sunday we would go to
church and we would do our one
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hour worth of Sunday School
time Then we would go into the
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worship service and get our two
scriptures for the day and we
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were good.
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All right, okay, so very
traditional experience probably.
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Was that similar to yours? Was
the Bible emphasized at all in
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your upbringing. Did your
parents encourage you to read
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the Bible your family your
church or was it something that
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you just kind of go through the
motions and you know it's just
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what you do.
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Well the one consistent
religious upbringing I had was
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my grandmother, my MooMaw.
She was primitive Baptist and so
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that was the one church that
I would drift back to and she
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taught me the Bible as best as
she could. But the other ones,
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it was so confusing to go
from Pentecostal to Baptist to
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Methodist to you know Catholic
to whatever but I started
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reading the Bible. I told my mom
I remember sitting in the chair
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for church in the fifth grade
and told Mama I want to read the
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Bible. She was like
well okay go ahead and do it.
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That's amazing. So your story is
maybe not exactly the same but
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similar to mine because I grew
up primarily Pentecostal but
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then the Lord basically led
me out of the Pentecostal church
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and I started going to all these
other different churches and
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studying will all these
different denominations. So
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at any point in time when
you were growing up in that
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experience going from one church
to the next did you ever even
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think about maybe some of the
differences or inconsistencies
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that you were hearing or
experiencing in the church or
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were you just kind
of oblivious to it?
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I was kind of oblivious to it. I
mean I was very confused by it.
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Right right I got you.
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She reminded me that
her Grandmother, they would
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literally take people down to
the river and do a true baptism
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in the river and they would do
foot washing as well which was
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totally like really different
any experience I ever had.
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So in the Methodist church
they do any foot washing at all.
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Not that I'm aware of.
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Wow. Then you first-foot washing
experience was probably in the
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Adventist church.
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Yes.
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So what was that like for you?
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What was your experience? Did it
seem a little weird or were you
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open arms about the experience.
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I think I was pretty open-arms
about it because of the words
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that Hilda had told me about
her grandmother and the little
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following that we had as well.
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Wow, that's amazing, that's
amazing. So you guys were just
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kind of living your life. You're
a businessman, you're very very
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successful in the insurance
world and making a good living
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probably considered yourself
blessed. Obviously, you were
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blessed by God. Probably thought
at one time that maybe you were
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doing all that you knew was
right and the Lord's blessing me
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And then a series of events
unfolded a few years ago which
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I guess a series of weather
related events that was very,
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very impactful to the Lake
Charles area and the Louisiana
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area. Let's kind of go back
because we're leading up to when
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you discovered this new found
truth that changed your life.
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Tell us how you got to that
point and those weather events
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that unfolded that
led to this discovery.
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So yeah, it started with
Hurricane Laura and during Laura
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the winds were just incredible.
Hilda and I decided to actually
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stay and weather the storm
out. You know it's just another
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hurricane. Tell us about this
image that popped up. What are
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looking at here.
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Yeah you can see here on
the graphics that this was the
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recorded wind speeds by the
weather service. It's kind of
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notable to note like 10 miles
offshore, you can see one of
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buoys recorded 199 mile-an-hour
winds. By the time it got to us
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it kind of lightened down a
little bit to 160 mile-an-hour
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winds.
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Just a little bit. Wow 160 miles
per hour. It was an experience
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that it makes you really cling
to your faith at that point in
00:19:07.84\00:19:14.38
God and like what
are we doing here?!
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Right. So was there a mandatory
evacuation during this time and
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and you guys decided to stick
it out, to ride it out. What's
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going through your...I've always
wanted to ask a person from
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Louisiana because I hear that
often. You know you guys are no
00:19:27.40\00:19:30.57
stranger to heavy, heavy
hurricane-like weather. You know
00:19:30.60\00:19:37.74
us folk up here we hear stories
of these people just stayed in
00:19:37.77\00:19:39.97
their home. They just road
it out. Like what were they
00:19:40.01\00:19:42.78
thinking? So I just got to ask
you when you know that that's
00:19:42.81\00:19:46.51
coming and you know they've
already warned you, they've
00:19:46.55\00:19:49.88
already said get out of Dodge,
get out of town and you make the
00:19:49.92\00:19:54.22
decision we're going to ride it
out. What's going through your
00:19:54.26\00:19:55.76
mind at that moment that brought
you to the decision to say, Aah
00:19:55.79\00:19:58.89
let's just see what
happens and ride it out.
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So a lot that had to deal with
her father. We were caretaking
00:20:02.36\00:20:06.30
for him. He was 85 years old at
the time and he just didn't want
00:20:06.33\00:20:13.14
to leave. And so it's kind of
hard to push somebody out who's
00:20:13.17\00:20:19.68
dug in their heels, right?
00:20:19.71\00:20:21.05
Yeah you're not going to
hog tie him and throw him in the
00:20:21.08\00:20:22.42
vehicle.
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It's not going to happen. We
stayed and we had plan A, plan B
00:20:23.82\00:20:27.49
and plan C. Plan A was we just
ride it out and watch a nice
00:20:27.52\00:20:30.46
little storm go by. Plan B was
there's supposed to be a 20-foot
00:20:30.49\00:20:37.77
tidal surge. So we took the boat
to the house and tied the boat
00:20:37.80\00:20:40.17
to the house so that it wouldn't
float off in case we needed to
00:20:40.20\00:20:43.30
get in it.
00:20:43.34\00:20:44.67
Jump in the boat and ride
it out another way. (Yep) Wow!
00:20:44.71\00:20:47.14
Plan C was wait on the
helicopters to come get us, I
00:20:47.18\00:20:50.28
guess. There was
no plan C. [chuckles]
00:20:50.31\00:20:54.75
Again this is before kind of
your religious awakening. (Yes)
00:20:54.78\00:20:57.95
At this time were the type of
folk that would offer up prayers
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and say, God, you
know, get us through this?
00:21:01.86\00:21:03.99
That would have been the time
with the tree hit the house.
00:21:04.03\00:21:08.26
(Wow) The neighbor's
tree hit the house and then...
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Look at that! My goodness.
00:21:12.27\00:21:15.20
She's on Coumadin do we put her
in the closet with my motorcycle
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helmet on.
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Is that what
we're looking at here?
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That's what we're looking at.
That's where the neighbor's tree
00:21:21.74\00:21:23.08
hit the house and it was quite
an experience. That's when you
00:21:23.11\00:21:29.12
get on your knees
and say okay, God...
00:21:29.15\00:21:31.12
Okay, God if you're up
there are you listening?
00:21:31.15\00:21:32.69
Please send your angels here
for protection. But I think God
00:21:32.72\00:21:37.46
announced seven days earlier
that this might be coming our
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way so we just
didn't heed the warnings.
00:21:39.29\00:21:42.46
But you have to understand at
this time we think we're right
00:21:42.50\00:21:44.83
with God. We truly think
we're right with God. We'd been
00:21:44.87\00:21:50.74
attending Methodist church since
we got married and we were youth
00:21:50.77\00:21:54.38
directors in the
church. It was just...
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You know not to bring correction
or anything but I think in those
00:22:00.08\00:22:03.99
moments when you're living up
to all the light that you know
00:22:04.02\00:22:06.72
I think we can say that yeah you
were right with God in all that
00:22:06.76\00:22:11.23
you knew to be at the time.
00:22:11.26\00:22:12.59
Yes, we knew that.
00:22:12.63\00:22:13.96
Because I remember a time when
my family and I were not...you
00:22:14.00\00:22:17.83
know we didn't know anything
about this truth and about the
00:22:17.87\00:22:19.20
Sabbath, the keeping of the
Law and all these amazing truths
00:22:19.23\00:22:21.80
that enlightened and enhanced
our Christian experience when we
00:22:21.84\00:22:24.47
were living up to all the light
that we knew at that time. So
00:22:24.51\00:22:27.08
you guys were just doing your
best with the knowledge that you
00:22:27.11\00:22:29.98
had and you're having to ride
out this storm. Now Laura has
00:22:30.01\00:22:36.12
happened the aftermath of
Laura. Take us from there.
00:22:36.15\00:22:38.39
So then we had a tropical storm
come past about maybe a month
00:22:38.42\00:22:43.63
later. The good news in that
was I was able to get one of my
00:22:43.66\00:22:47.40
grounded boats off the land.
It was only 15 feet up on land
00:22:47.43\00:22:52.50
so we got it off land. We
had nine-foot tidal surge during
00:22:52.53\00:22:55.54
little storm. A month or
so later Hurricane Delta comes
00:22:55.57\00:23:01.11
along and then after that, we
had a freeze. Unprecedented! The
00:23:01.14\00:23:06.31
whole south was under a freeze.
All the way down to Brownsville,
00:23:06.35\00:23:09.82
Texas. We had pipes frozen,
we had electric lines down...
00:23:09.85\00:23:16.19
And this is a big
deal for Louisiana?
00:23:16.22\00:23:17.56
Oh, it's huge.
00:23:17.59\00:23:18.93
Huge. I know that some of our
viewers that are watching right
00:23:18.96\00:23:21.43
now, look at that picture!
I'm not about making fun at all.
00:23:21.46\00:23:27.14
I'm just saying I have been
in Louisiana when there was icy
00:23:27.17\00:23:30.84
weather. Years ago we
were conducting an evangelistic
00:23:30.87\00:23:33.81
series in Baton Rouge and
the temperatures dipped below
00:23:33.84\00:23:36.18
freezing and they got a little
bit of sleet, some ice, which to
00:23:36.21\00:23:38.88
me was nothing because I grew
up in Arkansas where we would
00:23:38.91\00:23:42.18
get that every winter. You know
in northeastern Arkansas we get
00:23:42.22\00:23:46.05
that every winter and the people
of Louisiana about lost their
00:23:46.09\00:23:49.62
minds at this little bit of ice.
All of the roads shut down, you
00:23:49.66\00:23:52.69
couldn't travel across the
bridges and that's a big thing
00:23:52.73\00:23:55.50
for Louisiana because every so
many feet it seems like there's
00:23:55.53\00:23:57.67
a bridge. But for you guys
this freezing weather to hit the
00:23:57.70\00:24:02.47
area in the way that it did
is extremely a big deal because
00:24:02.50\00:24:07.21
it's very, very rare weather
to be that far south in America.
00:24:07.24\00:24:14.52
And that many days. We were four
days without power or water. It
00:24:14.55\00:24:21.62
was just a mess.
00:24:21.66\00:24:22.99
Everything shuts down. The
governmental buildings shut down
00:24:23.02\00:24:25.93
the roads shut down, everything
shuts down because we're just
00:24:25.96\00:24:30.57
not used to driving in it.
00:24:30.60\00:24:32.87
Yeah, your road systems, the
crews and all that, they're not
00:24:32.90\00:24:37.07
used to having to deal with that
kind of thing. Again my friends
00:24:37.11\00:24:40.28
up north in like Minnesota and
Michigan are watching this, hey
00:24:40.31\00:24:44.31
that's nothing. We get like 16
feet of snow and we're okay the
00:24:44.35\00:24:47.58
next day. But for Louisiana
it's a very, very big deal.
00:24:47.62\00:24:51.32
We don't even have plane
deicers, just not necessary.
00:24:51.35\00:24:56.62
That's amazing. Okay. So you had
this hurricane Laura, then you
00:24:56.66\00:25:00.20
have this tropical storm
and then Hurricane Delta, my
00:25:00.23\00:25:05.97
goodness, and
then the freeze okay...
00:25:06.00\00:25:09.27
And then we had a flood.
(Wow man!) The flood covered the
00:25:09.30\00:25:12.94
entire city. We had 17 inches of
rain all within a 24-hour period
00:25:12.97\00:25:18.05
I believe it was and then right
behind that, we had a tornado.
00:25:18.08\00:25:23.05
So a lot of natural disasters
in Lake Charles, Louisiana.
00:25:23.08\00:25:27.99
That's amazing, that's amazing.
So then through this God uses
00:25:28.02\00:25:35.83
this very interesting series of
events kind of allow the light
00:25:35.86\00:25:44.74
bulb to go out in your mind, go
off not out. But allow the light
00:25:44.77\00:25:48.61
bulb to go off in your mind. You
said, you were telling me that
00:25:48.64\00:25:52.41
you read the Bible every day
or at least a proverb every day
00:25:52.45\00:25:56.22
but you read
00:25:56.25\00:25:57.99
this particular proverb so take
us from there. So all of this
00:25:58.02\00:26:00.86
weather is going on,
you're reading your Bible. Then
00:26:00.89\00:26:03.76
what happens?
00:26:03.79\00:26:05.56
So I took the 10 commandments
and put them up behind my
00:26:05.59\00:26:09.83
computer monitor. That was like
I need some inspiration here.
00:26:09.86\00:26:14.70
And I knew that God was going
to take us through this. It was
00:26:14.74\00:26:21.24
just a matter of time. We'd been
through many hurricanes before
00:26:21.28\00:26:23.75
And so I was reading a Proverb a
day and then I think it's in the
00:26:23.78\00:26:30.85
first proverb, I think it's
verse seven and it says the fear
00:26:30.89\00:26:35.09
of the Lord is where wisdom
begins. It's almost like okay
00:26:35.12\00:26:40.33
if I want to be more wise about
God okay maybe I should start
00:26:40.36\00:26:44.57
reading a little
bit more than proverbs.
00:26:44.60\00:26:46.37
Right what does
it mean to fear him?
00:26:46.40\00:26:48.07
So what did I do? I of course
pulled out the old search engine
00:26:48.10\00:26:53.31
on the computer. Okay "fear of
God" right? And the first thing
00:26:53.34\00:26:58.05
that pops up is Doug Bachelor
Amazing Facts. I'm like well
00:26:58.08\00:27:03.08
this is intriguing. Because as a
youth minister, I used to teach
00:27:03.12\00:27:07.92
Revelation. Okay. But as I have
now learned my version of the
00:27:07.96\00:27:12.99
Revelation of Jesus Christ is a
tad bit different than what the
00:27:13.03\00:27:16.33
Bible actually teaches us.
00:27:16.36\00:27:18.43
Right and this was in the
Methodist church. (Yes) okay
00:27:18.47\00:27:20.50
All right.
00:27:20.54\00:27:22.54
And so from there, that led me
to 3ABN and at that point they
00:27:22.57\00:27:31.31
were still down in I think
Lockport, Louisiana and it had
00:27:31.35\00:27:37.65
been three months since
they'd been back to Lake Charles
00:27:37.69\00:27:39.52
because there was literally
nothing there, no food, no
00:27:39.55\00:27:43.89
nothing. And when I fin...
00:27:43.93\00:27:45.26
So I'm sorry to interrupt you
so you had went away with your
00:27:45.29\00:27:48.86
father to Lockport.
00:27:48.90\00:27:50.47
To my eldest son's house.
00:27:50.50\00:27:52.77
To kind of get away from
all of this bad weather that had
00:27:52.80\00:27:55.24
went on.
00:27:55.27\00:27:57.21
There was no electricity
and my father was in bad health.
00:27:57.24\00:28:00.71
Okay, so you guys needed
obviously, electricity to be
00:28:00.74\00:28:03.65
able to tend his health
needs. So you were back in (Lake
00:28:03.68\00:28:07.65
Charles) Lake Charles by
yourself for three months trying
00:28:07.68\00:28:11.65
to ride out all of this and I
guess for the flooding and all
00:28:11.69\00:28:15.62
that stuff to go down and
the power to come back on and...
00:28:15.66\00:28:18.63
Me and six other
claims adjusters.
00:28:18.66\00:28:20.30
Oh wow. Okay, so then you're
studying your Bible. You come
00:28:20.33\00:28:23.06
in contact with 3ABN and then
now you reach out to her. Take
00:28:23.10\00:28:26.63
us from there.
00:28:26.67\00:28:28.10
I said you have got to see this.
This is so cool. This is the
00:28:28.14\00:28:34.31
missing piece. It's like...what
was your first reaction.
00:28:34.34\00:28:40.12
Well when he first showed me
he showed me Amazing Facts with
00:28:40.15\00:28:43.95
Doug Bachelor first. And I
was like wow yes that's it. And
00:28:43.99\00:28:51.29
then he showed me 3ABN and
it was just an awakening. I was
00:28:51.33\00:28:58.90
like all the things that I had
read in the Bible and I accepted
00:28:58.93\00:29:02.94
as truth, I was allowed to
accept the Bible as truth and
00:29:02.97\00:29:09.78
not listen to all the things
that had been told to me by the
00:29:09.81\00:29:15.35
different denominations.
00:29:15.38\00:29:18.25
That's it, that's it. Right what
you're saying. It's all flooding
00:29:18.29\00:29:20.06
back to even my own experience
because before I had accepted
00:29:20.09\00:29:24.86
this truth within the culture...
Again you and I have a very
00:29:24.89\00:29:31.00
similar background going to all
these different churches there
00:29:31.03\00:29:32.87
tends to be a culture that
teaches you what to believe
00:29:32.90\00:29:36.74
rather than to study for
yourself. And I could say that
00:29:36.77\00:29:42.18
this probably very much even
within Methodism as well is that
00:29:42.21\00:29:44.05
you know the pastor, he went
to seminary. That's the pastor,
00:29:44.08\00:29:48.45
he's the man of God and whatever
he says God you know must be
00:29:48.48\00:29:51.95
what's the truth and you just
kind of accept it. There's not
00:29:51.99\00:29:55.09
this heavy emphasis on actually
pick up the Bible and study it
00:29:55.12\00:29:58.99
and read it for yourself to
learn these things to make sure
00:29:59.03\00:30:02.33
that's what's being taught to
you is the truth. And that's the
00:30:02.36\00:30:05.17
same experience that I
had. So that's what you were
00:30:05.20\00:30:07.84
experiencing and then you guys
find Amazing Facts, 3ABN, and
00:30:07.87\00:30:12.74
now the Bible's starting to make
sense to you. Okay what happens
00:30:12.77\00:30:17.05
next?
00:30:17.08\00:30:18.55
So then I say there's got to
be one of these churches around
00:30:18.58\00:30:22.18
here that teaches this truth.
00:30:22.22\00:30:26.59
And we find one. You know
we Google it again, find one
00:30:26.62\00:30:32.49
that's local and I finally
tell Dean, I'm going to church
00:30:32.53\00:30:36.46
whether you're going or not. And
we hooked up with a church. And
00:30:36.50\00:30:42.27
then it's a little church but
you would not believe even the
00:30:42.30\00:30:48.61
pastor that we've gone several
people have come to the church
00:30:48.64\00:30:53.38
through 3ABN and Amazing Facts.
00:30:53.42\00:30:55.92
Praise the Lord, praise the Lord
So I just got to ask you guys
00:30:55.95\00:30:59.49
when you're watching
3ABN, Amazing Facts and you're
00:30:59.52\00:31:05.63
studying along for yourself for
the first time. You're actually
00:31:05.66\00:31:08.16
reading it, you're studying what
were some of these truths. Were
00:31:08.20\00:31:11.50
there any challenging truths to
accept in the beginning or did
00:31:11.53\00:31:15.70
it just seem to be easy for
you like you just accepted it or
00:31:15.74\00:31:18.34
in the beginning, it was kind of
aah-aah I don't know about this
00:31:18.37\00:31:20.48
one but you had to study
it. What was your journey like
00:31:20.51\00:31:24.95
learning all of these
individual biblical teachings.
00:31:24.98\00:31:27.95
For me, it was easy because
I had read it and it was a
00:31:27.98\00:31:33.82
confirmation and so it was like
a relief and I was just yes! I
00:31:33.86\00:31:40.83
can believe that.
00:31:40.86\00:31:42.40
Right because you can see it.
It's right there. What about you
00:31:42.43\00:31:45.97
Dean. When you're learning
all of this stuff what was your
00:31:46.00\00:31:48.17
experience?
00:31:48.20\00:31:49.80
For me, it was the food.
00:31:49.84\00:31:51.31
Now right there. I got to stop
you right there. The food, you
00:31:51.34\00:31:59.65
folks at home you have to
understand in Louisiana this is
00:31:59.68\00:32:03.12
the epicenter this is the
heart of seafood. And I remember
00:32:03.15\00:32:07.89
years ago my very, very first
evangelistic series that I ever
00:32:07.92\00:32:11.63
preached was in Lafayette,
Louisiana. And I remember, you
00:32:11.66\00:32:15.43
know I had to get to that
message where we talked about
00:32:15.46\00:32:17.97
you know what the Bible teaches
about you know diet and how God
00:32:18.00\00:32:21.60
has created some meats that are
clean for us to eat and there's
00:32:21.64\00:32:24.77
others that animal flesh
and animal products that we are
00:32:24.81\00:32:28.44
not to eat because you know it's
not clean for us to eat. And I
00:32:28.48\00:32:32.81
remember that even that very
night I had some of the locals
00:32:32.85\00:32:36.12
coming in and you could smell
the last thing they cooked. This
00:32:36.15\00:32:40.79
was a nightly smell because the
culture there loves the crawfish
00:32:40.82\00:32:44.69
Crawfish is huge there, crawfish
and lobster and crab and catfish
00:32:44.73\00:32:50.17
and cracklings and shrimp, _
I mean jambalaya. You don't make
00:32:50.20\00:32:57.51
a jambalaya unless it has some
type of pork you know. So you're
00:32:57.54\00:33:00.68
talking about like a huge
culture that is saturated in the
00:33:00.71\00:33:05.71
delicacies that they consider to
be the best of the best or the
00:33:05.75\00:33:08.82
very foods that God says don't
eat. Stay away from it. And so I
00:33:08.85\00:33:13.52
just have to ask you when you're
learning this truth and you hear
00:33:13.56\00:33:18.09
this message what was your first
thoughts when you learned about
00:33:18.13\00:33:21.36
that?
00:33:21.40\00:33:24.07
I just was in total shock. I'm
not going to lie because I cook
00:33:24.10\00:33:30.67
a lot for my family and it just
meant, well we will just have to
00:33:30.71\00:33:34.18
change I guess.
00:33:34.21\00:33:36.68
Yeah, I love that attitude
though. I mean when the Holy
00:33:36.71\00:33:38.71
Spirit's leading you. You know,
you may not like it at first. I
00:33:38.75\00:33:45.12
remember for me it was shrimp
you know. I could care less
00:33:45.15\00:33:46.72
about the pork and some...but
for me, shrimp was a big one
00:33:46.76\00:33:49.96
because I grew up my grandpa
owned and ran one of the most
00:33:49.99\00:33:56.10
successful seafood restaurants
in southern Missouri and so I
00:33:56.13\00:33:59.63
grew up and went every summer
and helping with the restaurant
00:33:59.67\00:34:01.57
and so I grew up on these type
of foods, catfish and shrimp and
00:34:01.60\00:34:06.44
clams and all these other things
and to me, it was shrimp so I
00:34:06.47\00:34:09.34
totally get...in the beginning
when you first hear it its kind
00:34:09.38\00:34:11.61
of Noooo. You almost want to
belt out Why God? Why would you
00:34:11.65\00:34:16.55
take that from me. But yet
at the end of the day He knows
00:34:16.58\00:34:18.89
what's best, right? And so
you're being led by the Holy
00:34:18.92\00:34:21.92
Spirit you're going to have that
response. You know yes Lord I
00:34:21.96\00:34:25.49
see what you're saying and I'm
going to do my best to bring my
00:34:25.53\00:34:27.93
life in harmony with that.
00:34:27.96\00:34:29.30
As far as what he was cooking
I was like we're not supposed to
00:34:29.33\00:34:32.93
have that. And he's like I'm
getting it out of the freezer.
00:34:32.97\00:34:36.20
I got to get it out of the
freezer, you rebel. Wow man so
00:34:36.24\00:34:40.44
you guys are hearing all of
these amazing truths but the
00:34:40.48\00:34:43.55
food, the dietary requirements
that God gives us was kind of a
00:34:43.58\00:34:48.42
big challenge at first. What
about I mean when you hear about
00:34:48.45\00:34:51.75
the Sabbath though, when you
first heard...you know going to
00:34:51.79\00:34:54.69
church on Sunday all your life
being in the Methodist church
00:34:54.72\00:34:57.96
you know Pentecostal Church,
Baptist Church all the different
00:34:57.99\00:35:00.70
churches you were attending
what comes to your mind when you
00:35:00.73\00:35:03.26
learn you know that Saturday
is the seventh day and it's the
00:35:03.30\00:35:06.70
true Biblical Sabbath.
00:35:06.74\00:35:08.77
Well I had told you that I
started reading the Bible when I
00:35:08.80\00:35:11.44
was in the fifth grade on my own
I noticed that the Sabbath was
00:35:11.47\00:35:17.51
on a Saturday. And so when I was
in fifth grade I was like but it
00:35:17.55\00:35:24.65
says the Sabbath and the Sabbath
is a Saturday. But the churches
00:35:24.69\00:35:29.69
were teaching the Sunday. And
so when I finally got that truth
00:35:29.72\00:35:39.07
it was like I was right
when I was in the fifth grade!
00:35:39.10\00:35:43.77
Amazing. It is amazing how clear
God's word is and I've heard so
00:35:43.81\00:35:48.91
many people tell me a similar
story to that one. Oh yeah I
00:35:48.94\00:35:51.61
read this years ago and I
thought to myself well why, why
00:35:51.65\00:35:54.95
don't we observe or attend
church on Saturday rather than
00:35:54.98\00:35:58.25
Sunday? And then years later
they'll learn it again and think
00:35:58.29\00:36:02.42
oh yeah I remember
thinking that way back then.
00:36:02.46\00:36:04.46
Exactly.
00:36:04.49\00:36:05.83
Yeah you know I was just the
opposite. I never even thought
00:36:05.86\00:36:07.46
about it because the culture
I grew up in it was like ay
00:36:07.50\00:36:10.97
Saturday, Sunday, Monday,
Wednesday, Friday, who cares?
00:36:11.00\00:36:12.33
Until you learn the truth and
you realize well this is what
00:36:12.37\00:36:15.17
God requires and it's never been
changed and this is the truth.
00:36:15.20\00:36:18.77
And we need to bring our lives
in harmony with that. What about
00:36:18.81\00:36:22.34
you? Being an insurance guy did
you have the freedom to change
00:36:22.38\00:36:29.68
you know. I know a lot of
business is done on Fridays and
00:36:29.72\00:36:33.66
Saturdays in the insurance
business so I didn't know if you
00:36:33.69\00:36:36.89
were retired at this time or if
you were still involved in this
00:36:36.93\00:36:39.96
or not. How did that affect your
life in making that change from
00:36:40.00\00:36:42.50
Sunday to Saturday?
00:36:42.53\00:36:45.07
So I was supposed to be retired
but then I took full-time
00:36:45.10\00:36:49.10
employment with a local
university. Isn't God good? All
00:36:49.14\00:36:53.78
of a sudden my work schedule
is now Monday through Thursday,
00:36:53.81\00:36:58.41
Friday till noon.
00:36:58.45\00:36:59.78
That is amazing, brother, that's
amazing! So when you learn and
00:36:59.81\00:37:01.82
accept this truth it's almost
like God began to open doors and
00:37:01.85\00:37:05.19
bless you, to be
able to bring your life...
00:37:05.22\00:37:07.42
It's all about trusting in
what's right for you and your
00:37:07.46\00:37:10.19
family. And for the partying
we talked about earlier, it was
00:37:10.23\00:37:15.66
easy for me to just walk away.
Most people say well you know
00:37:15.70\00:37:20.57
don't you crave that? No, I
really don't. I just walked away
00:37:20.60\00:37:24.17
That's amazing, wow.
00:37:24.21\00:37:25.84
His partying, that is something
for years that has weighed upon
00:37:25.87\00:37:32.71
me and I prayed about it a lot
and I cried about it a lot. And
00:37:32.75\00:37:43.43
so when he quit drinking it was
just a stop and it was such an
00:37:43.46\00:37:50.67
answer to prayer.
00:37:50.70\00:37:52.03
That's amazing. I actually think
we have a couple of pictures
00:37:52.07\00:37:55.10
that kind of shows just how
involved you guys were with you
00:37:55.14\00:38:00.71
know the partying and
celebration especially during
00:38:00.74\00:38:02.48
Mardi Gras. If we can pull up
those images and show what you
00:38:02.51\00:38:07.52
you guys looked like. So what's
happening here. What's in this
00:38:07.55\00:38:09.65
picture.
00:38:09.68\00:38:11.02
This is a photo release, a press
release showing us as king and
00:38:11.05\00:38:14.82
queen of that particular year.
00:38:14.86\00:38:16.49
That was our first
king and queen shot.
00:38:16.52\00:38:19.03
That's amazing and there's
another image. Oh my goodness!
00:38:19.06\00:38:22.46
Ha! So what is this?
What are we seeing here?
00:38:22.50\00:38:24.77
This is where all of the crews
would get together and they
00:38:24.80\00:38:28.24
would parade their kings and
queens through their colosseum
00:38:28.27\00:38:32.04
Wow! Man that's amazing! So you
guys weren't just attending. You
00:38:32.07\00:38:38.35
were very much involved in even.
I guess you were voted. Is this
00:38:38.38\00:38:42.92
something you were voted or
you had to meet some kind of
00:38:42.95\00:38:44.82
requirements, how do you get...
and again to us at home watching
00:38:44.85\00:38:51.06
this and it's like ah it's nice
but in this particular culture
00:38:51.09\00:38:53.93
that's a big deal for you to be
selected or to be elevated into
00:38:53.96\00:38:59.23
such an honorary position as
Queen and King of Mardi Gras.
00:38:59.27\00:39:03.07
That's a major
deal in your community.
00:39:03.10\00:39:05.17
Right. So yes we were nominated
to be that and we were very very
00:39:05.21\00:39:13.18
involved in it and thousands
of dollars wasted. (Wasted) Just
00:39:13.21\00:39:18.65
wasted. But hey,
we had a great time.
00:39:18.69\00:39:23.22
That's amazing, praise the Lord.
Praise the Lord. So you guys
00:39:23.26\00:39:26.23
when you learned this truth
you know watching Amazing Facts,
00:39:26.26\00:39:30.07
you're watching 3ABN, you're
studying your Bible, you're
00:39:30.10\00:39:36.14
making these decisions to change
your life and try to bring your
00:39:36.17\00:39:39.24
life into more of a harmony with
what God's will has expressed in
00:39:39.27\00:39:44.45
His word. Did you have
any... How did your family, your
00:39:44.48\00:39:47.58
friends...they had to have taken
a notice that Dean and Hilda are
00:39:47.62\00:39:53.66
not the same Dean and Hilda and
it seems like they've kind of
00:39:53.69\00:39:57.13
jumped on some religious band
wagon that's a little different
00:39:57.16\00:40:00.10
So what was the response from
your friends and family members
00:40:00.13\00:40:02.76
around you.
00:40:02.80\00:40:05.67
So I told my...we have a little
Bible study group. Elder Malcolm
00:40:05.70\00:40:10.94
and his wife Darla and Janice.
We all get together on Monday
00:40:10.97\00:40:15.84
It's amazing you brought this
fact up. I told them last Monday
00:40:15.88\00:40:19.85
when we were studying Bible, I
said I literally have no friends
00:40:19.88\00:40:24.12
left of my prior engagements.
They've literally gone their own
00:40:24.15\00:40:31.16
way and that's okay but my Bible
study group said we'll be your
00:40:31.19\00:40:36.53
friends. I said
okay. I'll accept that.
00:40:36.56\00:40:39.80
That's got to be hard, I mean...
and I know that's probably one
00:40:39.83\00:40:43.91
of the most challenging aspects
of making a transition from not
00:40:43.94\00:40:50.15
really living for God to trying
to live for Him. Trying to bring
00:40:50.18\00:40:57.19
your life into more of a harmony
with His will. I find that I've
00:40:57.22\00:41:01.42
given many Bible studies, I've
been to many evangelistic series
00:41:01.46\00:41:04.33
I've preached in many
evangelistic series and that
00:41:04.36\00:41:07.73
seems to be one of the greatest
challenges because when people
00:41:07.76\00:41:10.83
are adopting this truth what
comes to my mind is the parable
00:41:10.87\00:41:14.94
of the sower Jesus told; how
some people receive that seed,
00:41:14.97\00:41:18.87
that word and at first they're
joyed to receive it, they're
00:41:18.91\00:41:21.91
excited about it but then
something comes along whether it
00:41:21.94\00:41:26.98
be the devil, whether it be
outside influences, whether it
00:41:27.02\00:41:29.38
be the cares of this world
or the cares of this life, it
00:41:29.42\00:41:32.32
somehow comes in and seems to
choke out the powerful influence
00:41:32.35\00:41:37.09
of that word because of the
individual's personal desires or
00:41:37.13\00:41:40.20
their response to the negative
pressures that come from outside
00:41:40.23\00:41:45.40
In this case, maybe it's
friends, maybe it's family
00:41:45.43\00:41:49.57
members, and to hear you say
you know I once had all these
00:41:49.60\00:41:52.87
friends but I don't have them
anymore but to continue on that
00:41:52.91\00:41:55.58
path. That's a powerful thing
because many people...I've met a
00:41:55.61\00:41:59.81
lot of people that's a very
difficult challenging situation
00:41:59.85\00:42:02.85
to have to give up their
friends. You know it's hard for
00:42:02.88\00:42:08.26
people to make that
adjustment in their life.
00:42:08.29\00:42:10.36
And it's so easy to get back in.
(Yes, yes) you know. Getting out
00:42:10.39\00:42:15.66
is the most difficult part.
Boy to get back in would be just
00:42:15.70\00:42:21.57
easy. I don't want to do that
no more. I realize now and I was
00:42:21.60\00:42:29.41
telling Hilda this last night
that it's very important to make
00:42:29.44\00:42:35.68
an eternal decision. And my
friends, you need to make that
00:42:35.72\00:42:40.56
decision today. Where are you
going to spend your eternity?
00:42:40.59\00:42:44.09
I've made my decision.
00:42:44.13\00:42:48.20
That's amazing, that's amazing.
So since you guys have received
00:42:48.23\00:42:53.34
and brought your lives in
harmony, I'm sure you're still
00:42:53.37\00:42:56.81
learning but you know from that
conversion experience what has
00:42:56.84\00:43:03.11
God led you to do since then?
What are you involved in? What
00:43:03.14\00:43:08.78
other avenues has the Lord
opened the doors since then.
00:43:08.82\00:43:15.19
I'm trying to bring our
small church up into the new
00:43:15.22\00:43:20.10
technology that's
available. We have a website.
00:43:20.13\00:43:24.13
Okay, you got a website. So the
Lord is using you to help work
00:43:24.17\00:43:27.77
in your local church to bring
your church up to technological
00:43:27.80\00:43:33.41
advancements.
00:43:33.44\00:43:34.78
And I would like to be able to
help them publish their services
00:43:34.81\00:43:37.91
online. Our church tends to
be a little bit elderly so those
00:43:37.95\00:43:44.09
people would at least have
the capacity to be in Sabbath
00:43:44.12\00:43:49.12
worship with us.
00:43:49.16\00:43:51.89
Got you, got you. Amen.
00:43:51.93\00:43:55.03
We attend...we went from doing
nothing to attending the prayer
00:43:55.06\00:44:00.57
service on Wednesday. We do
a Bible study on Monday night.
00:44:00.60\00:44:04.44
We do the Sabbath School.
We do Sabbath School with y'all
00:44:04.47\00:44:09.78
throughout the week and then
we do Sabbath School on Saturday
00:44:09.81\00:44:13.01
morning. We really enjoy it. And
then I found out through 3ABN
00:44:13.05\00:44:18.09
Today about the school of
discipleship which I really want
00:44:18.12\00:44:21.89
to go to.
00:44:21.92\00:44:23.56
Yeah, all right. So basically...
so you guys are continuing your
00:44:23.59\00:44:28.23
learning and growing experience.
And you know you want to attend
00:44:28.26\00:44:31.37
the School of Discipleship,
you're helping your local church
00:44:31.40\00:44:33.50
Guys I just want to say at home
you know this is powerful to
00:44:33.54\00:44:37.01
hear because some people might
look at this, well that's small
00:44:37.04\00:44:40.44
stuff. But it's the smaller
things that lead to even greater
00:44:40.48\00:44:43.71
things and I can very much
relate to you because I remember
00:44:43.75\00:44:47.52
when I first made the decision
to transfer from where I once
00:44:47.55\00:44:51.72
was in the Sunday-keeping church
to a Sabbath-keeping church. You
00:44:51.75\00:44:55.19
God will find a way for you to
work and to serve in a capacity
00:44:55.22\00:44:59.29
that blesses you and will bless
others. He will open up those
00:44:59.33\00:45:03.93
doors and it seems like the Lord
is going to be using you guys to
00:45:03.97\00:45:06.84
do that in your local church
as well. You know I have to just
00:45:06.87\00:45:11.17
ask when you were...again kind
of back to the family and the
00:45:11.21\00:45:15.01
friends in the community.
You know being a businessman I'm
00:45:15.04\00:45:18.08
sure you made a lot of
connections with people in your
00:45:18.11\00:45:22.02
community. A lot of people that
knew you, knew the old Dean and
00:45:22.05\00:45:26.25
how you used to be. What were
some of the responses that you
00:45:26.29\00:45:29.42
got from them. You know I'm sure
you've received many a party
00:45:29.46\00:45:34.00
invitation, many a Mardi Gras
invitation, come over, and let's
00:45:34.03\00:45:38.03
have a beer invitation or
whatever. So how do you now
00:45:38.07\00:45:42.10
address those situations
when they're presented to you?
00:45:42.14\00:45:46.37
Well it is noticeable and one of
our crews has their Mardi Gras
00:45:46.41\00:45:53.31
celebrations on Friday night.
And Hilda and I actually were
00:45:53.35\00:45:58.69
founding members of this crew.
We started this crew. And this
00:45:58.72\00:46:02.69
was the first year that we
did not attend and it was very
00:46:02.72\00:46:06.70
noticeable that we didn't attend
So people would ask us and so we
00:46:06.73\00:46:10.47
would just tell them, we're just
not going to do that anymore.
00:46:10.50\00:46:13.20
Mm-hmm. Wow, that's amazing.
00:46:16.04\00:46:17.37
We're going to be Sabbath
keepers. We're going to follow
00:46:17.41\00:46:19.64
the 10 commandments and we're
going to give the testimony of
00:46:19.67\00:46:23.21
Jesus Christ.
00:46:23.24\00:46:24.98
I love that brother. That's
powerful, that's powerful. Hilda
00:46:25.01\00:46:28.05
when you...I don't think I ever
heard from you on this. So your
00:46:28.08\00:46:33.29
family and friends and people
that you knew. When they found
00:46:33.32\00:46:35.16
out that you were making and had
made that transition from your
00:46:35.19\00:46:40.70
previous beliefs, your previous
lifestyle to what you are now,
00:46:40.73\00:46:44.47
did you receive any negative
feedback or was it all positive
00:46:44.50\00:46:48.60
What was your
experience with that?
00:46:48.64\00:46:50.81
Mutual growth. I didn't have
the type friends that Dean had.
00:46:50.84\00:47:00.65
They just kind of accepted
but it's not been necessarily
00:47:00.68\00:47:06.39
positive. My thing is that
I feel that I had been taught
00:47:06.42\00:47:16.83
wrong all these years and I
think, why was I taught wrong?
00:47:16.87\00:47:21.67
And then I realized it was out
of ignorance and it was out of
00:47:21.70\00:47:27.08
ignorance that I taught my
children wrong and so I feel so
00:47:27.11\00:47:32.05
bad about doing that. But it's
things like 3ABN and Amazing
00:47:32.08\00:47:38.59
Facts that are getting the word
out and it's doing it globally,
00:47:38.62\00:47:46.03
it's doing it nationally
and for that I'm grateful.
00:47:46.06\00:47:50.37
Amen, amen, praise the Lord.
You know I just want to address
00:47:50.40\00:47:53.34
what you just said because you
will naturally feel bad when you
00:47:53.37\00:47:58.47
come to that understanding
of man I could have known and I
00:47:58.51\00:48:02.58
didn't know. I could have been
sharing the truth but I didn't
00:48:02.61\00:48:06.65
know what I was sharing things
or maybe influencing others to
00:48:06.68\00:48:10.69
believe things that was not
entirely true. But I think there
00:48:10.72\00:48:15.46
is a difference between willful
ignorance and just the general
00:48:15.49\00:48:21.03
ignorance of just not knowing.
Me and my family were not
00:48:21.06\00:48:24.93
necessarily willfully ignorant
in the sense that we were
00:48:24.97\00:48:29.44
rejecting truth. You guys I
don't think were rejecting truth
00:48:29.47\00:48:31.47
you didn't know. And I think
that's where the truth of James
00:48:31.51\00:48:34.68
chapter 4 verse 17 comes in
which says that he that knows to
00:48:34.71\00:48:37.98
do good and does it not to him
it is a sin. There's some people
00:48:38.01\00:48:42.18
out there so that they can know
the truth. They would know the
00:48:42.22\00:48:48.32
truth and they would actually
take the time to study it, they
00:48:48.36\00:48:49.69
would take the time to learn
and take the time they can share
00:48:49.72\00:48:52.43
that with others and there's
those people that could know
00:48:52.46\00:48:55.73
that but they make the conscious
choice to not want to know that.
00:48:55.76\00:48:59.53
In other words, they make the
decision to not study, to not
00:48:59.57\00:49:03.10
dig, to not share those things
that they know with others for
00:49:03.14\00:49:06.31
whatever reason and I think
that's a dangerous thing. But
00:49:06.34\00:49:09.11
there's people like you,
people like me, who we were just
00:49:09.14\00:49:13.62
walking kind of in a dark state
before not really knowing until
00:49:13.65\00:49:18.65
the light came and when we saw
the light then that change came
00:49:18.69\00:49:21.72
and I think that's what's
important is when the light
00:49:21.76\00:49:23.79
comes my friends you know
walk into the light, walk in the
00:49:23.83\00:49:27.26
light and walk in the light
of Christ. You know don't worry
00:49:27.30\00:49:30.53
about your past because again
Jesus is a forgiving God, He's a
00:49:30.57\00:49:34.87
forgiving Savior. You know I was
contemplating back here on this
00:49:34.90\00:49:38.87
parable of the sower. You know
as we were talking before, you
00:49:38.91\00:49:42.64
know we want to be that
good ground. You guys clearly
00:49:42.68\00:49:48.98
received that truth, you were
ready to receive it and you were
00:49:49.02\00:49:51.02
not going to let anything
come between you and the Lord of
00:49:51.05\00:49:53.82
receiving that truth and
allowing it to take root in your
00:49:53.86\00:49:56.56
life and to change you. I just
want to speak to our viewers at
00:49:56.59\00:49:59.79
home in just these last few
minutes. Maybe you have heard
00:49:59.83\00:50:04.33
the truth, maybe you know the
truth, or maybe you're hearing
00:50:04.37\00:50:07.00
the truth for the first time
today. You know what, at the end
00:50:07.04\00:50:09.77
of the day what really truly
matters is how you receive it.
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Will you receive it and will you
allow that to take root in your
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life? Or will you allow
some outside influence or some
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desire of your own heart to
uproot that seed and not allow
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it to grow? I think that's what
it comes down to. Allow Jesus
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Christ to water and to bring
that seed, that new truth in
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your life to fruition in your
life and to grow and change you.
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Dean and Hilda, It has been a
privilege and an honor to spend
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this time with you guys. So you
guys we're actually going to go
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to an address roll, I think in
just a moment, about a minute or
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so that is going to connect
people with your church. I think
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it's your local church. Tell
us a little bit about your local
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church in the
next 30 seconds or so.
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So we are like I said local and
we're welcoming. We are building
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back our congregation and we're
looking for young members just
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like everybody else, spread
the gospel of Jesus Christ.
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Amen, amen. Perhaps there's
someone out there that would
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like to you know help support
the local ministry there that's
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going on. And the...what is that
again, the name of your church?
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Lake Charles.
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Lake Charles almost said, Saint
Charles have mercy. Lake Charles
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If there's someone who wants
to support that local ministry
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of the Lake Charles Seventh-day
Adventist Church. I know you
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said you wanted to make some
upgrades in the technology. You
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know they have a community there
just like everywhere else that
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needs to be reached and perhaps
maybe the Lord has laid it upon
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your heart right now because
you're watching this program and
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maybe you want to give, maybe
you want to donate, maybe you
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want to learn more about what
Dean and Hilda have learned.
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This is how you can do it.
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If you would like more
information about the Lake
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Charles Seventh-day Adventist
Church you can contact them at
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1537 Country Club
Road, Lake Charles, LA 70605
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You can call
them at 337-478-8353
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Or you can find them online
at LakeCharlesAdventists.org
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You can also email them at
info@LakeCharlesAdventists.org
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