¤ I want to spend my
life mending broken people ¤
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¤ I want to spend
my life removing pain ¤
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¤ Lord let my words
heal a heart that hurts ¤
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¤ I want to spend my
life mending broken people ¤
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Hello and welcome to
another 3ABN Today program.
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I'm Jason Bradley and I'm
so glad that you are joining us
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today. We have an exciting,
power packed hour in store for
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you and we're going to be going
to the mission field. That's
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what we're going to learn about
today: Ultimate Mission. And
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here with me to discuss this
we have Jim Reynolds. You're the
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president of Ultimate Mission
and the founder. (Yes) Yes
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welcome, welcome. It's great
to have you here. We've got Dr.
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John Anderson. You're the board
chairman of Ultimate Mission.
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It's great to have you here as
well. (Thank you) Yes. So before
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we dive into what Ultimate
Mission is all about, before we
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go into your background and
all of that, we're going to be
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blessed in song and bringing
us that song is going to be
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Layke Jones and
he'll be singing Follow Me.
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¤ ¤
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¤ I traveled down a lonely
road and no one seemed to care ¤
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¤ The burden on my weary
back had bowed me to despair ¤
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¤ I oft complained to Jesus
how folks were treating me ¤
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¤ and then I heard
Him say so tenderly ¤
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¤ My feet were also
weary upon the Calvary road ¤
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¤ The cross became so
heavy I fell beneath the load ¤
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¤ Oh, be faithful weary
pilgrim the morning I can see ¤
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¤ Just lift your cross
and follow close to me ¤
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¤ Oh Jesus if I die upon
a foreign field someday ¤
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¤ T 'would be no
more than love demands ¤
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¤ no less could I repay ¤
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¤ No great love hath mortal
man than for a friend to die ¤
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¤ These are the words
He gently spoke to me ¤
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¤ If just a cup of water
I place within your hands ¤
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¤ Then just a cup of
water is all that I demand ¤
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¤ But if by death to
living they can thy glory see ¤
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¤ I'll take my
cross and follow ¤
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¤ I'll Take My Cross
and Follow Close to Thee ¤
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Amen, What a beautiful song with
a beautiful message. Take my
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cross and follow. That's
wonderful and really that's what
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we're discussing as a mission
field and the work that is being
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done in the mission field. Jim
I want to come to you because I
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know that you have a story.
I know that you have a powerful
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testimony and so I want to dive
into your background a little
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bit. And I know Dr. Anderson has
a powerful testimony as well.
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And we're going to get to that
in just a moment. But Jim tell
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us a little bit
about your background.
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(Jim Reynolds) Well I was
brought up in the Seventh-day
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Adventist Church but a wonderful
Seventh-day Adventist mother
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At 16 I decided it wasn't quite
as exciting as I would have
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liked. And so I started going
to public schools. I'd gone to
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Adventist schools until that
time and then I chose to go to
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public schools and I went the
wrong direction, for 26 years
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I went the wrong direction. Well
you're going to see a picture of
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me walking around with
a prosthetic limb and that
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happened during that time. I
was on a motor bike and I got in
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a wreck and had to have a leg
amputation. That didn't bring me
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back to God. It took a lot more
to come back. And so in 2006 I
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finally decided because of
some of the things that were
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happening with my children,
some really hard things that
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were happening with my kids, and
I finally decided I need Jesus
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again. And so I got on my
knees I told God that I would do
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whatever He wanted if He would
just help me save my children.
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And so when you tell God you'll
do whatever He wants you to do
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You better have your work boots
handy because God is going to
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put you to work. And in 2006 I
came back into the church right
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in the middle of an evangelism
series that was just starting
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and I offered to be part of that
evangelism series to help out
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from there and God just put me
into one ministry after another.
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And then finally in 2009, I
was cofounder for what is now
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Ultimate Mission.
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Ah, that's awesome. I don't want
to go that far yet but we're
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going to get into that. But
that's incredible. How important
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would you say it is that initial
training that you had as a child
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You know the Bible talks about
train up a child in the way he
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should go (right). So how
important would you say that
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training was because
you came back to that.
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Yeah, critical. Because when
I came back I already had that
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foundation. And actually through
those 26 years I had that
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foundation. Because I got into
some things and went some places
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that I shouldn't have gone
and the drugs and alcohol and
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different things like that, but
my friends, you know, they told
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me later they said there was
always a line you wouldn't cross
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You would go so far but you
wouldn't go any further. And I
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have friends right now they're
basically on their death beds
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and they're my age because
of the drugs and alcohol. But
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fortunately God had a hold
of me He had a reason for me to
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continue and
pulled me back in in time.
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Amen, amen. We have a
similar testimony, similar.
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Dr. Anderson, what about you.
Were you always in the church?
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Tell us a little bit
about your background.
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Well my story's not nearly
as interesting. Actually kind of
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boring compared to Jim's. I
grew up in the church. I have a
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great Adventist heritage in my
family. I'm thankful for that.
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I think I'm a fifth generation
Adventist and I pretty much
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stuck with the church throughout
For me, it's really been more of
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really a decades-long journey
to learn to be less selfish and
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how to surrender and those
kind of things that don't come
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naturally for some of us. But,
yeah, the church has always been
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a part of my life.
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That's not boring. That's
exciting because you stayed the
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course which is a
tremendous blessing.
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And I told John trade my
testimony for his any day of the
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week. (Yes, yes) I would
absolutely trade it because
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it's 20 miles in and 20 miles
out. So you go in, you have that
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exciting testimony but you deal
with that pain. (Yeah) And so
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yeah I'd trade for your
testimony any day of the week.
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It's great to have a not-so-
interesting testimony.(Laughter)
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I'm not complaining but and not
to give the impression that I've
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always been on the
straight and narrow but...
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But now important is
your personal devotional life.
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It's critically important.
It's something that you know is
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always a struggle in our daily
lives to try to set aside that
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time. That's always been a
challenge for me, but it makes
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such a difference. And when I'm
not doing it faithfully I really
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feel that.
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And you're a doctor.
What kind of doctor are you?
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So I'm an orthopedic
surgeon, treat bones and joints.
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What made you want to
go into that line of work?
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Well, a couple things. Um, I
was real interested in sports
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growing up. I liked to play
basketball and other sports.
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I'm interested in those kinds
of injuries that occur and also
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just have a guess kind of a
mechanical mind. I like to fix
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things. I like tangible problems
that can be solved and so that
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just...it was really the only
thing in medicine that I wanted
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to do.
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Mmm, mhuh, mhuh. So let's
transition into Ultimate Mission
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So you said you
started that in what year now?
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2009, (2009) Yes.
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And how did that come about?
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Well, as I was saying, when
I came back God put me to work
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Because Jim not doing anything
is not a good thing, right? You
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need me doing something. So
God put me to work and I was out
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helping in this one ministry
where we were feeding 300 to 500
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people every Sunday. And a man
names Lynn Berlin, he was in his
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80s, came up to me and he
said Jim, I'm having a hard time
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getting people out of the pews
and into the community trying to
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help out and he said I'm
going to start a non-profit
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organization dedicated to
getting people out into, out
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into the communities. I said,
Lynn, that sounds like a great
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idea. He had started this
ministry that had been going for
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17 years but he was over 80. He
was in his 80s and you know he
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was all there but it was you
know still...a little bit crazy.
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So I said okay...I don't know if
I should say that but there it
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is. I says okay Lynn that's fine
You start that ministry. That
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sounds like a great idea.
The next Sunday I'm out there
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helping him again. And here
comes Lynn across the lot at me
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and he's got a piece of paper
in his hand. He said, Jim, I did
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it. I go what did you do? He
said I started that ministry. He
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said and here's the paper, he
said, and I made you president.
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(Wow) That's how Ultimate
Mission started. I had no idea
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what I was going to do
with this ministry, not a clue.
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Wow. That's incredible. That's
incredible. So what was the
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first step after
that, like what did you do?
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Well I went to the Oregon
Conference and Shawn Boonstra
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had just come in 2007 and so
there was that after of that.
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So they had Bible Worker Boot
Camp and I thought you know what
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would be cool. Let's get as many
church members as we can and
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let's continue what It Is
Written did during that time
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and let's start a Bible Worker
Boot Camp and just continue it.
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And so I went to the Oregon
Conference and worked with the
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Oregon Conference and we started
an Ultimate Mission Bible Worker
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Boot Camp and that was our next
project. And so from there then
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we were originally going to be
in evangelism. Yeah that's what
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we were going to do is
evangelism and so we did some
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evangelism series. Matter of
fact that's kind of how we ended
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up in India. We were supposed to
do an evangelism series. And I
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called Jim Rennie from
Child Impact. And I had gone to
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India a couple times and
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once with Jim Rennie and he
was going to sponsor me to be an
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evangelist in India. So I got
all the sermons together. I even
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did the sermons here at home and
then I was going to tweak them a
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little for India. I got them all
together and then I was going to
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India. It was just a couple
months before we left. Jim calls
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me and he says they're really
cracking down on evangelists in
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India so you can't, we can't
do this series. And I had just
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started running a program called
Healthy Heart in Oregon. So we
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had a deal with Clover Foods
where we could take groups of
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church members into Fred Meyer
Stores, Clover Food Stores, and
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do blood pressure checks,
health risk assessments. So I
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just had that started there
and said well what if we did a
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health series instead of an
evangelism series? And Jim said
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that sounds good. So we went
to India. We did a health series
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and one of the parts of doing
the health series was we were
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going to train 30 gospel
outreach workers to do medical
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missionary work while we were
there. And so we trained these
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30 gospel outreach workers and
they went home and they trained
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their wives. And they took this
book that we gave them called
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Where There Is No Doctor and
they took it home and one man
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trained his wife. And these
women were going out on their
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own and doing medical missionary
work. So we thought, you know
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what, we may training the wrong
people. So in 2014, we came back
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and we started training the
wives of gospel outreach workers
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and other Bible workers and
other pastors in India and that
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is basically how
our ministry started.
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Nice, nice. So what is the
mission of Ultimate Missions?
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Hmm. Well you know given
our humble beginnings and we're
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still a humble beginning, but
our mission in the beginning was
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to get as many people out
telling people about Jesus as
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possible. That was our ministry.
We wanted to get people out of
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the churches, out of the pews,
into the mission fields and
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that's still our mission,
but our mission has evolved into
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something where what we do now
is we take medical teams in two
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different countries like
Ethiopia, the Philippines, India
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and we train Bible worker wives
to do medical missionary work.
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So basic public health work. And
then we give them a stipend. So
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actually, they still work for
the Adventist conference, right?
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They're employees of the
Adventist conference. The money
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we send for their stipends goes
through the General Conference.
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(Okay, okay) But what we do
is we train them and we kind of
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manage them, make sure
we're getting all the reports.
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I was just
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looking over some this morning.
We get about 1000 reports a week
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Oh yeah. Just pictures and
reports by the hundreds all the
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time. And so these women are
employees of the conference but
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we give the money so that
they have stipends and we do the
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training and then we kind of
keep the organization and the
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accountability.
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Gotcha, Gotcha. Yeah that's
important. You know we actually
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have a video that kind of
highlights a little bit about
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what you do and really shows the
need for it. Set that up for us.
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Tell us a little bit
about what we're going to see.
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So I have a good friend,
Wes Peppers, who's with It Is
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Written. And Wes and I were
talking and he was talking about
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him and John doing a program in
Ethiopia and they wanted to do
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a medical work in front of their
evangelism series and he knew
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what I did with the women so he
says well why don't you join up
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with us? Let's go to Ethiopia
and you can help us out with the
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medical work in front of the
evangelism series. So we brought
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our ladies that we had trained
and the Gospel Outreach Workers
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and we all came together
with It Is Written and did this
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project in
Ethiopia and it was amazing.
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Beautiful, beautiful. Well
let's take a look at that video
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right now.
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¤ ¤
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For years Ultimate Mission
has been hearing a call to go to
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Ethiopia, but every time we made
plans God seemed to close the
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door. In 2021 we again made
plans but the civil war in the
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country became too intense and
we had to cancel just three days
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before we were to fly out.
In 2022, It Is Written asked
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Ultimate Mission to partner with
them to run the health programs
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in front of the evangelism
meetings Wes Peppers and
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John Bradshaw were holding. This
time the door stayed open. This
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time God said yes.
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The first thing you notice is
the extreme hardship and need.
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Everywhere you turn you see
broken down elderly people and
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mothers desperate to feed
and care for their babies. The
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poverty level is very
high. Ethiopia runs at about 19
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percent unemployment. Jobs are
scarce and pay is very, very low
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Soon however you can't help but
notice the beauty of the African
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landscape. The grace and wonder
of this ancient civilization, a
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place that can boast one of the
first converts to Christianity.
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The people here are tall and
gorgeous with chiseled features
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and humble hearts. A handshake
almost always includes a hug.
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It does not take long to
feel as if you are one of the
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Ethiopian family
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The Ultimate Mission team was
tasked to organize the medical
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outreach. People came to us by
the hundreds. We tried our best
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to help everyone we could. But
the need was too great. At one
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the point I was faced with so
many desperate people that all I
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could do was walk away
so no one could see me cry.
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We sent patients that were
critical to the local hospital
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run by Adventists and another
medical clinic in the area.
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Patients were admitted, treated,
given medicine and released.
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Ultimate Mission covered the
full cost, but believe it or not
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the cost of lifesaving treatment
only averaged around $25 per
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patient. This shows that
even small donations can change
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someone's world.
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Dr. John Anderson is the
Ultimate Mission Board Chairman.
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He is also an orthopedic surgeon
For the first time Ultimate
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Mission was able to include
orthopedic surgery as part of
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our unique program. Dr. Anderson
used multiple operations to
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local surgeons in advanced
surgical techniques. Looking to
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the future we see countless
opportunities through this new
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arm of Ultimate Mission to
heal, to train and to love.
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I am so proud of the Ultimate
Mission community health workers
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These ladies are working beside
their gospel outreach Bible
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worker husbands to heal the sick
and bring souls to the kingdom
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Additionally, it was a privilege
to work alongside It Is Written
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and the Ethiopian Adventist
Union. We were able to watch
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hundreds of souls baptized into
Jesus Christ. Ultimate Mission
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believes that all of us are
praying together and working
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together with all our might, God
would use us to change the world
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Go to ultimatemission.org and
see how you can become part of
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the solution and a member
of the Ultimate Mission family.
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Wow. That was powerful. I mean
we're seeing Christ's method of
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evangelism taking place. And
that is incredible. Dr. Anderson
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What was your
experience like in Ethiopia?
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Well, how much time do you have?
Um there were a lot of powerful
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experiences. We just saw the
massive baptism, 1700 people.
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That was certainly a high point.
But the things that stick in
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my mind are the are the
individual interactions with
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patients. So we ran a health
clinic during the day, late
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morning and then afternoon
up until the meetings and it was
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just an open, walk-in clinic,
you know, in a courtyard area
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just inside the street. And so
we would have hundreds of people
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just trying to press their
way in. We had to use different
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crowd control methods to try
to handle things and triage the
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patients and we would see
as many as we could, 100, 150
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patients a day. And you know
they had a variety of problems.
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Many of them were simple. They
needed to eat differently, they
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needed to drink more water. That
was a huge problem. But we had
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some also pretty dramatic
experiences. One morning I was
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just coming out of the hotel
into the courtyard out to the
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van and I saw out on the
sidewalk this lady just fell
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head first, just biffed it
on the sidewalk and started
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flopping around. She was
having a seizure. And so people
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gathered around. She was
carrying like a two-year-old
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child, she'd kind of landed on
top of. People pulled the child
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out. The kid was okay and you
know kind of guarded her while
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the seizure was finishing and
then sat her up. It was kind of
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interesting. You know there
were 10 of 15 people around.
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Everybody pulled out a little
bit of money to give to her and
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we ended up taking her
first to our clinic and making
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arrangements for her to get some
medication, some transportation
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And we did that with a number
of different people that we took
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to the hospital and got them
treated for a shockingly small
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among of money. Sometimes $5
We had a patient that we took in
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that spent the night in the
hospital for a cardiac workup
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and the whole package, overnight
all the tests was like $30.
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That is incredible because when
I see a hospital bill that I
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receive that thing's
pretty big. Pretty big.
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Make a huge impact for
a small amount of money.
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Absolutely, absolutely. And what
were some of the responses from
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the people that you helped?
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So they were very grateful
obviously. I mean there were
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people you know that had had
problems for months and years
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that had not been addressed.
These were people that couldn't
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afford to even pay these small
amounts that we're talking about
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and so for many of these
people it was life-changing.
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And how did you get
involved with Ultimate Mission?
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So I think that the way the
story went is that I met Jim at
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camp meeting and we kind of
had some interests in common and
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ended up getting invited to the
fundraising banquet which was
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held that year at the Portland
Hospital. The thing that sticks
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out in my mind, I remember the
presentations at that banquet
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and at the time Ultimate Mission
as an organization didn't even
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have to file a tax return
because its total budget was
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less than $50,000. So they
presented you know what they'd
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done in the past year with these
ladies that had been trained in
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community health work and they
had done 88,000 home visits.
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on a budget of less than $50,000
(88,000?) Yeah, 88,000 home
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visits. That's individual homes
visits, individual homes visited
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You know, they'd spent half an
hour or an hour learning about
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the family, teaching them about
their health issues, what they
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can do differently and so to me
that really hit me pretty hard
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as far as bang for the buck, as
far as what you can accomplish
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with a small investment.
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Yes, yes, absolutely, absolutely
Who benefits from the work that
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the ladies do?
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Well, there's a lot of benefits.
This is the amazing thing. This
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is how we figured that God
had given us this idea because
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there's so many different
benefits. Number one, of course,
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the people that are being
treated benefit because she's
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going out every day and
she's visiting the people in the
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villages. And if you've been
into some of these villages I
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mean there are people...There's
paralyzed people from stroke.
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There's people that have all
kinds of diseases and problems,
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just amazing. So these people
are benefitting. But also the
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children are benefitting because
what she's doing...the thing
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with training women is we
say that we teach women to teach
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mothers to keep their babies
alive. Because it's one thing as
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a man going into these villages
but a man is not going to be
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able to go connect with a woman.
Right? It's just taboo in most
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cultures and so a woman
connecting with a woman...
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And one of the things that
really, that I knew we had it
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going is...we did our
first training. So what we do in
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training is we do the work
in the mornings and then in the
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afternoons we go out into the
field and we kind of do rounds
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in the field. And these women
brought their babies with them
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and I was like oh no we forgot
to tell the women not to bring
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their kids. They brought their
kids. So we have women out there
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holding a baby and visiting
in the field. And I thought this
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was going to be a disaster. But
it was one of the most powerful
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things I'd ever seen. Because
here's a woman holding a baby
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on her hip talking to another
woman about keeping her baby
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clean and healthy. And then
they're hugging. I mean it was
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just so incredibly powerful.
And that first day on that first
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training I go we've got
something here. We've got
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something. Also see the
pastors...like the Southern Asia
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Division is probably one of the
poorest divisions in the world.
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And they really can't pay their
pastors as pastors should be
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paid or all the time get
all their...Well with Gospel
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Outreach and some of the Bible
workers that their money, some
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times, sometimes they may
get it a month later or whatever
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So especially during COVID it
was really bad so these families
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don't have a whole lot of money
coming in and sometimes the
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pastors have to go get another
job driving a taxi, working in
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the field but now the wife
is now making money so now the
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pastors benefit because they can
stick to their job as pastors
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and the family benefits. And
we've even watched some of these
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women and some of these children
as we've trained them and then
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go back the next year after
getting a full time salary and
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they've changed. Their face has
changed. They're filled out they
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don't have dark rings under
their eyes which you know are a
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sign of malnutrition. The
children are not lethargic. The
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children are running around
being four-year-olds when the
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a year before we thought they
were one-and-a-half or two years
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old. You know because they
were so small, they had stunted
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growth. Now having a full-time
job, getting a stipend and
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learning about health.
When you teach you learn.
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It elevates their status in
the community too and in their
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family. And we also have a
literacy program that we just
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started too. A lot of women
don't have the ability to go to
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school and learn how to read
and don't forget about the most
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important downstream effect
which is lives are changed for
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the kingdom. People in many
of these countries you cannot
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openly evangelize and so this
is the way, this is the opening
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wedge of the gospel. And so they
can get into homes that way and
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people are converted.
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That was my next question is how
is Jesus lifted up in this work?
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Well, that's how it works. They
develop relationships in the
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community and over time people
develop a trust for them and
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they are...You know stories
are told about many of these
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countries have strong religious
preferences so in India you know
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maybe the family's Hindu and
they will not allow a Christian
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to come in the house. But
when that lady has a stethoscope
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around her neck and a blood
pressure cuff then everything
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changes and the husband at some
point may be able to come in
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with her instead of having
to talk outside. So you know the
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conversation starts with health
but it ends up with the Bible
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and sharing Christ.
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That's where it goes and a lot
of times that's what happens.
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But we go in there just to help
people because we're walking in
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a Muslim home, we're walking
into Hindu homes and we're
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getting into all these homes
right? Because I've been over
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there...Because when I go out I
go into the villages. That's one
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of the first things I do when
I go into a new country is I go
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out. I take a translator. I
go into the villages. I talk to
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people. I want to find out what
our baseline is. And there's
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many times I go talk to a Hindu
and they don't want anything to
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do with me. Nothing. We know
you're a Christian. We don't
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want you here. When I say I'm
just here to help. I'm just here
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to check on the health of your
children, to check on the health
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of your mother. Oh, come in.
They'll let you in. And it is
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the right arm of the ministry
for a reason. Because it works.
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It absolutely works. And like
I said when we started we were
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going to do an evangelism series
but that was shut down. But what
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is not shut down was the health
work. Was just going out and
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telling people I love you and I
care about you and then letting
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God work from there, and He does
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Amen. So I know you said that
you go into the villages. That's
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one of the first things you do.
How do you scout out, for lack
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of a better word, how do you
figure out what country to go to
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in the first place?
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Well, we are usually requested.
So people have found out about
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our program and so they will
be requesting us to go into a
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certain country. And so what
we do, we've been so incredibly
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blessed. As soon as we've gotten
this request we will try to find
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a medical professional in
that country that will work as a
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supervisor for us. And as soon
as we find that supervisor, then
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we're working with the
Adventists...Because the
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Adventist conference, they're
the ones that are requesting
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this. Then they're working with
the supervisor to find the Bible
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worker wives that qualify and
want to be a part of our program
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So it's a very structured
process but it's all around the
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Adventist church. Having
an Adventist family around the
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world gives you openings to
do mission work and all kinds of
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things. Just being part of this
church is an amazing opportunity
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to spread Jesus to the world.
You couldn't do this on your own
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It would be really, really tough
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Mmm huh, that's a movement,
that's a movement. Dr. Anderson
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what type of diseases
have you seen with the people?
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Well everything you can imagine
and a lot of diseases that we
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don't see at all here in the US
So something like elephantiasis
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You know it's a parasite that
causes massive swelling of the
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leg. Things that I never saw in
medical school, I never saw in
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training. So many of those
diseases that are...many of them
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are also very easily preventable
too and that's where our model
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comes in in terms of teaching
the basics, you know, hand
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washing, clean water.
Those kinds of things can be
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life-changing. We take it for
granted because we have you know
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a system of clean
water here in the US but Yep.
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It was also very good and
Dr. Anderson when we were at the
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clinic in Shashimani, he noticed
this guy crawling along the
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ground, right? And he realized
that maybe this man could be
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helped with a set of crutches.
And so, what happened, John?
00:34:58.03\00:35:01.16
Well the crazy thing, he's kind
of walking along the ground like
00:35:01.20\00:35:04.60
a crab. You know he's got these
two little hand things that are
00:35:04.63\00:35:08.17
about two inches high. They're
just little handles to keep his
00:35:08.20\00:35:11.01
knuckles from being on the
ground and he scoots around that
00:35:11.04\00:35:14.01
way. And so he climbed up
in the chair and had some other
00:35:14.04\00:35:16.85
complaint. I don't know, he had
an earache or something. So we
00:35:16.88\00:35:19.45
looked at that. But then I
looked at his legs and he'd had
00:35:19.48\00:35:22.52
some either an infection or
a tumor so his femur, his thigh
00:35:22.55\00:35:25.55
bone was very short on one side
but I kind of checked him out.
00:35:25.59\00:35:28.32
I realized that his other
leg was basically fine. And he
00:35:28.36\00:35:32.73
couldn't quite stand up straight
all the way because his joints
00:35:32.76\00:35:35.40
had been bent for so long. But
I thought you know this guy why
00:35:35.43\00:35:39.23
is he crawling around on the
ground. He could benefit from
00:35:39.27\00:35:41.00
some crutches. So I asked Jim,
Hey, let's get this guy some
00:35:41.04\00:35:45.64
crutches. He's like okay we'll
get him some crutches. So he
00:35:45.67\00:35:47.58
asked around and lo and behold
you can't get crutches there.
00:35:47.61\00:35:49.84
You can't just go to the store
and buy crutches. They're very
00:35:49.88\00:35:51.91
hard to come by. I don't know
why. It seems like that would be
00:35:51.95\00:35:55.35
a relatively straightforward
thing to make. People do make
00:35:55.38\00:35:57.59
their own out of wood. So anyway
the bottom line is, long story
00:35:57.62\00:36:01.06
short Jim gave the guy his
crutches at the end of the trip
00:36:01.09\00:36:03.93
and that's life-changing for
this guy. I mean, he can walk
00:36:03.96\00:36:07.40
upright now where he has been
scooting around on the ground
00:36:07.43\00:36:09.56
So those are some of the things
we saw that just, you would
00:36:09.60\00:36:12.63
never see here.
00:36:12.67\00:36:15.30
Absolutely. What are some of
the challenges that you've faced
00:36:15.34\00:36:17.74
over there?
00:36:17.77\00:36:21.04
Well (laughter) so one of the
challenges is it's never enough.
00:36:21.08\00:36:26.11
And you notice in the video
I talked about walking away in
00:36:26.15\00:36:30.29
tears and that was a true
statement. At one point, I lost
00:36:30.32\00:36:33.32
it because my job...I am not
a medical person, right? So I'm
00:36:33.36\00:36:37.46
administrative and my job
is organization. And so I was
00:36:37.49\00:36:41.40
organizing this program and
trying to do crowd control and
00:36:41.43\00:36:44.97
by doing crowd control I made up
these papers that we would hand
00:36:45.00\00:36:48.40
out so I would only have so
many right? And we had groups in
00:36:48.44\00:36:52.14
front of the place where we were
at. I mean just crowds early in
00:36:52.17\00:36:55.94
the morning. People that have
walked three days to get there
00:36:55.98\00:36:59.25
because they knew this program
was going on. And they're
00:36:59.28\00:37:01.68
sitting out there waiting for
us and they're desperate and you
00:37:01.72\00:37:06.02
can tell they're broken and
they're hurt and the babies are
00:37:06.05\00:37:08.82
crying and mothers are holding
malnourished children and I mean
00:37:08.86\00:37:12.46
you just have all this going
on and it was up to me to decide
00:37:12.49\00:37:18.37
who got in. And at one point I
was just, I, I, couldn't take it
00:37:18.40\00:37:24.54
John had brought that one lady
with the epileptic seizure. We
00:37:24.57\00:37:28.14
had another seven-year-old
girl that was a type I diabetic,
00:37:28.18\00:37:31.95
couldn't get her insulin. We
had two other little girls that,
00:37:31.98\00:37:35.98
young girls, they were in the
same family, they were one year
00:37:36.02\00:37:39.62
apart and they couldn't walk.
And nobody was able to figure
00:37:39.65\00:37:42.76
out why all of a sudden these
girls couldn't walk. And all of
00:37:42.79\00:37:45.49
this came at once and then all
these hundreds of people trying
00:37:45.53\00:37:49.20
to get in and it was too much
for me. And I walked away for a
00:37:49.23\00:37:53.07
few minutes, I let it out, and
then I came back and I got back
00:37:53.10\00:37:57.41
to work. And that's what you
got to do sometimes. A lot of
00:37:57.44\00:38:01.64
the challenges that you can
never do enough. But what you
00:38:01.68\00:38:05.45
can do, I mean, like John
said for 30 bots you could get
00:38:05.48\00:38:09.58
somebody into a hospital over
night. I think in Shashimani we
00:38:09.62\00:38:15.96
sent six people, critical
patients to the hospital. I mean
00:38:15.99\00:38:18.66
if these people weren't going to
the hospital they were probably
00:38:18.69\00:38:20.73
going to die. Six patients. And
they went. They were treated.
00:38:20.76\00:38:24.97
They got medication. They
got released. That cost us what,
00:38:25.00\00:38:28.14
$148 to save those six lives.
And right now we set up to give
00:38:28.17\00:38:35.38
insulin to that one girl because
she's like type I and so we have
00:38:35.41\00:38:39.71
it set up at the
pharmacy there. It's $5 a month.
00:38:39.75\00:38:43.08
That's a blessing,
that's a huge blessing.
00:38:43.12\00:38:46.09
It is incredible. I mean so the
challenge is we want to do more
00:38:46.12\00:38:50.99
but we only have so much. We
only have so much money. There's
00:38:51.03\00:38:55.60
only so much
manpower, so much time.
00:38:55.63\00:39:01.17
From a larger perspective
you know we talk about the
00:39:01.20\00:39:04.04
challenges on this trip but the
fact is we can only be there for
00:39:04.07\00:39:06.57
two or three weeks at a time.
So you know we talked about
00:39:06.61\00:39:09.41
clean water. I mean, that's a
huge problem in many countries
00:39:09.44\00:39:12.18
in the world and it's a huge
cause of disease so you know
00:39:12.21\00:39:16.05
we have...There are different
methods of dealing with that
00:39:16.08\00:39:17.42
A lot of organizations are
drilling wells. In Ethiopia for
00:39:17.45\00:39:20.76
example there was not a stable
water supply so you would see
00:39:20.79\00:39:24.23
these donkey carts going down
the road with big plastic jugs.
00:39:24.26\00:39:27.20
I thought it was maybe gasoline.
Well turns out it was water
00:39:27.23\00:39:29.40
because water would be available
in one place one day and a
00:39:29.43\00:39:32.50
couple days later in another
place. So they would fill up a
00:39:32.53\00:39:34.70
bunch of jugs, try to transport
it around. So we have to address
00:39:34.74\00:39:40.44
the clean water problem we have
a device called a ModiDrop. It's
00:39:40.48\00:39:43.14
a and I won't get into the
details but the bottom line is
00:39:43.18\00:39:44.91
for a few dollars you can
provide a family with clean
00:39:44.95\00:39:48.35
water for a year. So those are
some of the things that we can
00:39:48.38\00:39:51.15
do that have a huge impact that
don't require you know American
00:39:51.19\00:39:56.36
boots on the ground so to speak.
00:39:56.39\00:39:57.73
And you said it's a
ModiDrop? What is that?
00:39:57.76\00:40:01.63
It's a two-ounce ceramic tablet
and it was the University of
00:40:01.66\00:40:06.17
Virginia developed this and so
we work with the University of
00:40:06.20\00:40:10.17
Virginia and we take thousands
of these to the mission field.
00:40:10.21\00:40:12.27
Matter of fact in 2018 we
were the mission project for the
00:40:12.31\00:40:16.75
North American Division for VBS.
And for everybody out there that
00:40:16.78\00:40:20.85
helped raise money I tell you
we were able to help thousands
00:40:20.88\00:40:24.39
of people because you raised
that money through VBS program.
00:40:24.42\00:40:28.02
It's diffused with silver ions
so you drop it in a 10 or 20
00:40:28.06\00:40:32.56
liter jug of water and then
overnight it purifies the water.
00:40:32.59\00:40:37.00
And you just
repeat that for a year.
00:40:37.03\00:40:38.77
Yeah so one tablet will keep
a family of five in clean water
00:40:38.80\00:40:41.34
for a year. And a tablet...I buy
them by the thousands. So they
00:40:41.37\00:40:45.31
cost me around $8-$10 per tablet
depending on what the silver
00:40:45.34\00:40:48.38
market is doing at the time.
00:40:48.41\00:40:49.98
Wow! That's incredible.
How has being a part of this
00:40:50.01\00:40:54.38
organization strengthened your
faith and this question goes to
00:40:54.42\00:40:57.19
both of you guys. Dr.
Anderson let's start with you.
00:40:57.22\00:41:00.02
Well, so many different ways.
The main thing is it gives you
00:41:00.06\00:41:05.69
perspective on what's going on
in other parts of the world and
00:41:05.73\00:41:09.33
when you see...One thing that
was incredible and we saw it as
00:41:09.36\00:41:13.44
soon as we arrived. They
had this gigantic parade, a huge
00:41:13.47\00:41:16.60
welcome for us. They have
this...We could tell stories of
00:41:16.64\00:41:21.51
faith of the locals of building
their church and getting ready
00:41:21.54\00:41:24.31
for the meetings. They prepared
for these meetings for three
00:41:24.35\00:41:26.85
months, just praying and fasting
The faith of many of these
00:41:26.88\00:41:32.62
people is just so inspiring.
That's one thing that really
00:41:32.65\00:41:36.12
hits me every time I go in
addition to the physical needs
00:41:36.16\00:41:39.66
and the social problems.
00:41:39.69\00:41:41.03
Yeah absolutely.
00:41:41.06\00:41:42.90
And every time you take one of
these trips, like I said before
00:41:42.93\00:41:45.80
in the video, I mean, they had
a civil war. We couldn't go the
00:41:45.83\00:41:50.24
time before because of the war.
Every time you take these trips
00:41:50.27\00:41:53.44
you put yourself in the hands
of God and you plan. I mean you
00:41:53.48\00:41:57.15
plan all these things to happen
and they've got to happen right
00:41:57.18\00:42:00.12
in a row and if you know
anything about the mission field
00:42:00.15\00:42:02.75
it's crazy; things don't happen
as planned. But every single
00:42:02.78\00:42:07.22
time you make these plans, you
put this in the hands of God and
00:42:07.26\00:42:10.73
you watch God take your plans
and multiply them like loaves
00:42:10.76\00:42:15.30
and fishes. I mean just doing
things. And so your faith is
00:42:15.33\00:42:18.80
growing as you're watching what
God is doing. You're watching
00:42:18.83\00:42:22.54
1700 baptisms. You know that was
so amazing. And you're watching
00:42:22.57\00:42:27.21
these things happen one right
after the other. I tell you, I
00:42:27.24\00:42:30.08
couldn't travel during COVID and
it was so disappointing and I
00:42:30.11\00:42:35.08
just felt myself becoming
desensitized, being in this
00:42:35.12\00:42:37.59
American bubble, you know. We
think everything's always like
00:42:37.62\00:42:40.59
this, but it's not. You go out
into the rest of the world and
00:42:40.62\00:42:44.16
it's so different and there
are so much need. And you get to
00:42:44.19\00:42:48.76
watch God works and that's
what it does for my faith is
00:42:48.80\00:42:53.30
watching...I didn't do that, God
did that. I didn't figure that
00:42:53.34\00:42:56.40
out. God figured that out. And
you watch it over and over and
00:42:56.44\00:43:01.48
over again. And I tell you what,
I don't know if I would be able
00:43:01.51\00:43:05.25
to be a Christian if I did not
do mission work of some kind.
00:43:05.28\00:43:09.42
Whether here at home or around
the world. I've got to be able
00:43:09.45\00:43:12.45
to see God work. And I can
see Him every time I go out.
00:43:12.49\00:43:16.26
I think he has a preacher
in you (laughter) I think yeah
00:43:16.29\00:43:22.10
absolutely, absolutely. Now
that's incredible. I think about
00:43:22.13\00:43:24.67
the illustration that you
gave or the story that you told
00:43:24.70\00:43:27.17
earlier where you were talking
about how the women brought the
00:43:27.20\00:43:30.34
babies and they weren't supposed
to bring the babies but it ended
00:43:30.37\00:43:32.64
up working out. And so that
is absolutely incredible. What
00:43:32.67\00:43:37.05
would you say needs to be
someone's qualification or
00:43:37.08\00:43:41.28
something along those lines to
get involved with this mission
00:43:41.32\00:43:46.22
work?
00:43:46.25\00:43:47.59
Only one. They need to be
interested in serving the Lord.
00:43:47.62\00:43:49.42
And that's really it. We have
a lot of...You know we obviously
00:43:49.46\00:43:52.56
can use people that have medical
training but we need IT people
00:43:52.59\00:43:56.46
One thing that happened with
COVID is we could not travel
00:43:56.50\00:43:59.37
to do the teaching in
person so we developed an online
00:43:59.40\00:44:02.10
curriculum and some videos
and some PowerPoints to do the
00:44:02.14\00:44:05.34
teaching and that's how we...
Ethiopia's the first program we
00:44:05.37\00:44:07.88
started without actually going
to visit. So we hired a local
00:44:07.91\00:44:11.78
supervisor and we were able
to do the teaching basically
00:44:11.81\00:44:14.98
remotely. So we need those kinds
of people. We need people to
00:44:15.02\00:44:17.39
review all the reports that
come in, do administrative work.
00:44:17.42\00:44:23.26
Yeah, yeah. There's
no shortage of work.
00:44:23.29\00:44:25.26
No there's no shortage and
of course doctors and nurses are
00:44:25.29\00:44:30.33
you know, women doctors, women
nurses and men of course too but
00:44:30.37\00:44:34.14
women teaching women. There's
something very powerful with
00:44:34.17\00:44:36.91
that and so it's...Because
we take trips. We're going to be
00:44:36.94\00:44:40.68
taking a trip to India.
We're going to be going to the
00:44:40.71\00:44:43.65
Philippines next year. And we'll
go back to Ethiopia I'm pretty
00:44:43.68\00:44:47.58
sure so. Oh, and then we're
probably going to Nepal. So
00:44:47.62\00:44:51.79
we've got trips set up. We've
got a lot of work out there and
00:44:51.82\00:44:57.69
you know the only thing that
keeps us from going even further
00:44:57.73\00:45:01.73
even faster is resources,
that's it. I mean, we've got the
00:45:01.76\00:45:06.23
foundation laid, God has given
us the ideas. This is such a
00:45:06.27\00:45:09.80
simple program. I mean you teach
women that live on the ground in
00:45:09.84\00:45:15.54
the countries to do medical
missionary work, to do public
00:45:15.58\00:45:19.48
health work, to train to do very
simple things. And then we are
00:45:19.51\00:45:23.39
even talking about expanding
that into an online class and
00:45:23.42\00:45:28.66
maybe John you can tell them a
little bit about our thoughts on
00:45:28.69\00:45:31.26
that.
00:45:31.29\00:45:32.63
Well yeah that was actually
one of the blessings of COVID is
00:45:32.66\00:45:34.90
kind of developing this remote
program. So we can scale things
00:45:34.93\00:45:37.63
out much faster now rather
than depend on a group of people
00:45:37.67\00:45:39.87
traveling and doing the teaching
in person. But we'd like to
00:45:39.90\00:45:43.41
develop a curriculum that is
you know accredited in some way
00:45:43.44\00:45:48.14
and that allows those who
pass through it to get some kind
00:45:48.18\00:45:51.45
of a certificate that shows
that they have had this type of
00:45:51.48\00:45:55.62
training and that can
be valuable in their local
00:45:55.65\00:45:57.35
community but also is
just beneficial in terms of the
00:45:57.39\00:46:03.09
education that's provided.
00:46:03.12\00:46:04.46
Absolutely. And the thing that I
love about this is that you guys
00:46:04.49\00:46:08.13
are going in and you're
equipping the local people so
00:46:08.16\00:46:14.70
you know because they'll be
there. They'll remain there and
00:46:14.74\00:46:17.67
they're teaching and leading
people to Christ and helping
00:46:17.71\00:46:20.81
people. I mean
that's huge, that's huge.
00:46:20.84\00:46:23.31
And like what John said, it
raises the ladies' status when
00:46:23.35\00:46:27.25
their doing this. And I've asked
them because I'll sit down...
00:46:27.28\00:46:29.72
Well I'll eat with them and I'll
talk to them and I ask them what
00:46:29.75\00:46:33.15
do people think of you now
that you're a health worker? And
00:46:33.19\00:46:37.29
their faces just light up, they
just light up. Their status in
00:46:37.33\00:46:41.50
the community has grown
and women in some of these
00:46:41.53\00:46:45.40
communities are second class
citizens, right? But when they
00:46:45.43\00:46:48.64
get a job, when they're bringing
in an income and when they're
00:46:48.67\00:46:51.61
helping their community and
bringing people to Jesus I mean
00:46:51.64\00:46:56.41
it's life-changing for everybody
that's involved in it. This is,
00:46:56.44\00:47:00.82
this is God's idea. We didn't
come up...we are not smart
00:47:00.85\00:47:04.65
enough to come up with this idea
we just are not. And God put
00:47:04.69\00:47:08.96
this out there and He's carrying
it further and it's amazing to
00:47:08.99\00:47:13.09
be a part of it and
be along for the ride.
00:47:13.13\00:47:15.70
Amen there's so
many moving parts.
00:47:15.73\00:47:17.07
For sure. We are developing
a program for mental health.
00:47:17.10\00:47:22.44
That's important, yes, yes.
00:47:22.47\00:47:26.11
So yeah, 38 percent of all women
that will commit suicide today
00:47:26.14\00:47:30.35
will be in India between
the ages of 15 and 35. And so
00:47:30.38\00:47:36.15
there's a lot of depression,
there's a lot of anxiety in
00:47:36.18\00:47:38.85
there's countries and so we have
a pastor that's with the Oregon
00:47:38.89\00:47:43.86
Conference that also has a PhD
in psychology no, yes psychology
00:47:43.89\00:47:51.53
yes Ph.D. in psychology, he's
developing this program for us.
00:47:51.57\00:47:55.24
And so I'm very excited about
this. Because this will be a big
00:47:55.27\00:48:00.48
part of our training this mental
health. And I mean the women are
00:48:00.51\00:48:03.24
already there, they're already
visiting, they're already
00:48:03.28\00:48:05.28
comforting people. Now if they
can have some listening tools
00:48:05.31\00:48:08.32
Now if they can have some
cognitive behavioral tools, I
00:48:08.35\00:48:11.42
mean how much more effective can
these people are. We've got a
00:48:11.45\00:48:17.16
lot of plans. We'll
just see where God takes us.
00:48:17.19\00:48:19.09
Amen, and I love the literacy
component too as well because
00:48:19.13\00:48:24.20
if you can't read how can you
read the Bible? You know how can
00:48:24.23\00:48:28.40
you learn about Jesus and study
for yourself because you can't
00:48:28.44\00:48:31.57
trust everything that people are
saying. You need to be in the
00:48:31.61\00:48:34.61
word for yourself. You know we
have a program called 3ABN Today
00:48:34.64\00:48:38.71
Bible Q and A and some of
the questions that come in some
00:48:38.75\00:48:42.88
people say that they
heard somebody say. But you have
00:48:42.92\00:48:46.86
to study for yourself. You want
to make sure that you're in the
00:48:46.89\00:48:49.92
word so you guys teaching
literacy is absolutely huge.
00:48:49.96\00:48:54.20
What are some of the
needs of your organization?
00:48:54.23\00:48:57.57
Hmm. Well the biggest thing
is resources as Jim mentioned
00:48:57.60\00:49:03.71
because we can scale these
programs up but you know we need
00:49:03.74\00:49:09.51
help too in some of these
different areas, health workers
00:49:09.54\00:49:12.45
and logistics,
administrative tasks as well.
00:49:12.48\00:49:17.49
And finances because it's a lot
of money to put this together
00:49:17.52\00:49:21.92
I would imagine.
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It is but it's amazingly not as
much money as you would think.
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I mean, and that's what we
talk about going into orthopedic
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surgery and how much money that
costs. You're dragging all kinds
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of equipment with you and
everything else where you know
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it's amazingly cheap when
you can send somebody to the
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hospital for $25 and save their
life. So I mean yes you need a
00:49:40.98\00:49:46.82
lot of funds to do more but
a little bit goes a long, long
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ways. So even like $5 donations
We don't have anybody that
00:49:51.02\00:49:55.42
wants to become part of the
Ultimate Mission family and be
00:49:55.46\00:49:58.79
part of what we do. We are just
very happy whatever level that
00:49:58.83\00:50:03.60
is. Absolutely,
absolutely. Yeah I'm
00:50:03.63\00:50:06.77
excited about this like just
hearing our testimonies, seeing
00:50:06.80\00:50:10.81
your excitement for the mission
work and watching that video
00:50:10.84\00:50:14.98
that we saw earlier and just
knowing how the people are being
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helped, it's inspiring. And I
hope that people at home will be
00:50:18.61\00:50:22.75
inspired to go into the mission
field and join hands with you
00:50:22.78\00:50:26.59
in doing this wonderful work. I
know that you listed some of the
00:50:26.62\00:50:30.93
places that you plan to go, some
of the countries. Where are some
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other places that you
would like to go in the future.
00:50:35.50\00:50:40.00
(Deep breath) I'd love
to go all over the world.
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You know Afghanistan has been
one of the places that I'd like
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to go. Really where our program
works best is where the infant
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mortality rate is the highest.
Because when babies are dying
00:50:52.48\00:50:57.29
something very simple isn't
being done, right? Babies are
00:50:57.32\00:51:00.29
very hardy and so places with
high infant mortality rates are
00:51:00.32\00:51:03.99
really what I'd be looking
to and countries that aren't
00:51:04.03\00:51:07.76
Christian countries that have
other influences that need to
00:51:07.80\00:51:12.07
know Jesus. I want to go into
unreached places, places where
00:51:12.10\00:51:15.64
people don't know Jesus and
places where this health work...
00:51:15.67\00:51:18.74
You know, most places don't know
Jesus, bit problem with health.
00:51:18.77\00:51:23.78
And so there's a reason that
we have been instructed to do
00:51:23.81\00:51:31.75
medical missionary work is
because it works and because
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it's needed.
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Amen, amen, I love it, I love it
And we're going to talk a little
00:51:37.29\00:51:39.83
more in just a second.
We'll come back for some final
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thoughts. We're going to take
a brief break. Let you know how
00:51:43.20\00:51:45.60
you can get in touch with
Ultimate Mission. Watch the news
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break. We'll be right back.
00:51:47.94\00:51:50.84
If you would like to contact or
know more about Ultimate Mission
00:51:50.87\00:51:54.08
you can do so in the following
ways. You can write to them at
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P. O. Box 607, Gladstone,
OR 97027. You can call them at
00:51:57.18\00:52:04.29
(503) 451-3743 You
can visit their website at
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UltimatMission.org
or send them an email at
00:52:13.86\00:52:21.54
Jim@UltimateMission.org
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