I want to spend my life
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mending broken people.
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I want to spend my life
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removing pain.
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Lord, let my words
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heal a heart that hurts.
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I want to spend my life
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mending broken people...
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I want to spend my life
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mending broken people.
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Hello friends! Welcome
again to another edition
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of 3ABN Today.
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My name is Ryan Day, and we are
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excited about today's program.
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Every program here at 3ABN
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is exciting in my opinion.
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But for sure today is special
because we've got AudioVerse
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in the house. That's
right: the ministry AudioVerse
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which we're going to
learn all about today.
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It's a great tool of evangelism;
a great tool that you can share
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with people and just
bring encouragement to yourself
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and others. And we're
going to talk all about
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what is going on in
the world of AudioVerse
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in just a few moments.
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We have Alistair
Huong and Eli Kim with us.
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How are you guys doing? Doing
great! Wonderful to be here
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with you. Amen! Praise the Lord.
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You guys are coming to
tell us all about AudioVerse
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and I'm excited what's going to
be discussed during this hour.
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So don't go anywhere. In
fact if you have any friends
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or family around that's
interested in this powerful tool
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tell them to
gather around right now.
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We're not going to get
started just yet because before
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we get started we're
going to have a beautiful song
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that's going to be brought to us
by my good friend Miss Pat Koh.
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And she's going to be
playing a song for us entitled
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Overshadowed.
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Amen! My Sr. Pat
Koh: always a blessing.
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I love her
music. She plays so well
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and thank you, my sister
for blessing us with that song.
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Welcome back, my friends.
If you're just now joining us,
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my name is Ryan Day.
You're watching 3ABN Today.
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And we have
AudioVerse in the house with us.
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I'm so excited because I
guess you guys are the faces...
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the faces behind the
great exciting powerful app
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that everyone has on their
phones and listening to hundreds
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of thousands of
hours of sermons.
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But we have with us
today Mr. Alistair Huong
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and Eli Kim from AudioVerse.
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So I want to start with
you, Alistair. Just tell us
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a little bit about
yourself: where you're from
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and a little bit of background,
what you do for AudioVerse.
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Yeah, well thanks so much for
the warm invitation here, Ryan.
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It's great to be with you.
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I am one of the early
volunteers of AudioVerse.
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For those who don't know,
AudioVerse started back in 2005.
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My brother-in-law
actually was one of the founders
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of the ministry
and he roped me in.
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I was good friends and
Eli was a good friend of ours
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as well during that time.
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And we were a
volunteer group of Hodge podge
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mission-minded young people
wanting to serve the Lord.
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So AudioVerse was the
thing we got involved with
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early on. But as
the ministry grew
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everyone's lives took over:
careers and families and kids.
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I ended up being
asked by the board to become
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the chief executive - executive
director - of the ministry.
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Praise the Lord! And
so now that's my role.
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I guess you can say I
help facilitate things
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but the main thing is I get
all the blame for everything
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that goes wrong.
That's my job. Of course!
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Of course. That's
natural I suppose.
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Eli Kim. How
are you, my brother?
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Well thanks for
having us here, Ryan.
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Yeah, I was also
there in the very beginning.
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I remember... Actually
I remember when they had
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a competition for suggestions
of a name for AudioVerse.
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I remember submitting something.
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I don't remember what
I submitted, but I'm glad
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AudioVerse won.
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And someone won
a prize I believe.
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I was there from the beginning,
also a volunteer as well.
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I helped I guess design
the first logo for AudioVerse
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and now they asked
me to be a board member.
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I've been a board
member for a while now
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and that's my involvement.
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I do want to just make sure we
give credit where credit is due.
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We're only two members
of a team of many people
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that contribute their
talents to this ministry.
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Amen. And we're very
appreciative of their ministry
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and sacrifice as
well. Praise the Lord.
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That's such a blessing. Here
at 3ABN, we have new viewers
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all the time, and
if you are a new viewer
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and you're watching
3ABN for the first time,
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I want to welcome you. So we
have new viewers all the time
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that tune in to 3ABN,
and there's someone probably
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right now saying: "What n
the world is Audioverse? "
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So tell us a little
bit about AudioVerse.
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Its history...
how it got started...
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and let's just start there.
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I think that's a
great great point to start.
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Yeah. I can give you a
little bit of the history
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and I'll let Eli
share a little bit as well.
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So AudioVerse as I mentioned
started in the year 2005.
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To give you a
little bit of a context
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that was before the
iPhone was invented.
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It was a revolutionary idea.
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We were... I think
Facebook started the year after
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or somewhere in that realm.
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Google was just in its infancy;
the Internet was nothing like
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today, so it
really was quite a leap
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for these college students
or medical students at the time
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to have this idea:
"Hey, why don't we put
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all of these sermons
from our youth group?
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This was in Loma
Linda, California. OK.
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The Advent Hope
Sabbath School on campus there.
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There were preachers
coming every Sabbath.
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And we were still burning
CDs to give them out for free.
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And we thought: "You know
what? Everybody's got an iPod. "
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Do you remember
those? Yeah... that's right.
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And so everyone
could download the MP3s
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and just put them on the iPod.
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And we got in touch with
various ministries as partners
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and they started putting
their content on our site.
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And you know you can say
"the rest is history. " Um-hmm.
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But maybe Eli can share a
little bit about what AudioVerse
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is today. Yes. Well
today we've grown to
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such a large ministry
where we're worldwide.
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A lot of people don't realize
that it's not just America...
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although that is one
of our largest audiences.
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But is IS worldwide.
Anyone who has a phone
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or has Internet really can down-
load and listen to the sermons.
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And we have some
statistics for that.
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It's actually one of the things
I anticipate from your report
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every month where
you tell us the numbers
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and we see: "Wow! We reached
this country and this country. "
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So we are all over the world.
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But we're not just a
sermon collection. Sure.
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We do more than just that now.
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We've expanded to other
features like audio Bible
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we have on there as
well where you can listen to
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the different voiceovers,
different versions of the Bible.
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You can listen as
well as stuff for children.
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There's a lot of
content for children as well.
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Children's programming. We've
expanded to even some things
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like Scripture songs. Wow!
Like people can learn new songs.
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It's a great way to
memorize Scripture. Sure! Sure!
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We have the story of
a young lady in Thailand
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who... Her name is Shani
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and she was
wanting to get content.
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She was a new
Christian at the time
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and she discovered AudioVerse.
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She really didn't want...
she didn't know much speakers
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I should say, and she
discovered all these speakers
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on there. But one of
her favorite things was...
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in her testimony
she shared with us...
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was the Scripture
songs. Scripture songs.
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She loves that. And
on top of that, she...
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as she learned
about these new speakers
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that she'd never heard before
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during the pandemic actually in
Thailand they were locked down.
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And she had the courage to
actually, contact these speakers
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to have them speak to
her local church in Thailand.
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Oh wow! It was a
great testimony to hear.
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Praise the Lord! Praise
the Lord! So you mentioned
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that it's worldwide. That kind
of leads me to my next question
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which was: "Who specifically
is AudioVerse for? "
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Is there a
particular audience? Age group?
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And you know are there
sermons in different languages?
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Who's the audience?
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Yes, and you know
the Bible tells us that
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the gospel has to go to
every nation, kindred, tongue,
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and people. That's right, yeah.
And we take that seriously.
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That's really our
mission. That's our burden:
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that's what AudioVerse is about.
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And that's one of the
reasons why we operate online.
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And we do that in
a cost-effective way
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and so we reach well over
200 countries around the world.
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And we have currently over seven
languages with more on the way.
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Sure! Sure! And we have
content for the whole family.
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Eli mentioned from
Shani who is a young adult
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we have children's material.
In fact, Starting with Jesus
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is a children's program
that we worked together with
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during the pandemic.
That's when they started.
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And they started
creating children's content
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and we have that on AudioVerse.
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And as I understand
it they actually air
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for 3ABN... the kid's programs
are aired on 3ABN as well.
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Amen! Amen! So it's
one of those things that
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we are able to reach even
the younger children. Sure.
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And then we have the
Scripture songs. So for all ages
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of different cultures. And
I'll just share one quick story
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about this. We have one of
our speakers on AudioVerse...
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his name is Dr. Eric Walsh.
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He's a physician
with a very busy practice
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but he spends a lot of time in
ministry and preaching - right -
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and he has a lot of
influence in Africa.
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He's done a lot of work
over there, but the pandemic
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prevented him
from traveling. Oh! BUT
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he was able to get his sermons
on AudioVerse over to the
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congregations over there.
Wow! And they didn't like using
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YouTube because
YouTube you get all the ads
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and you get distractions
from all the different things
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they're recommending
to you. "Hey look at this
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latest movie" or whatnot.
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He said: "No, we want
to focus on God's Word. "
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So they would have Bible study
groups even though they couldn't
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gather in person and
Dr. Walsh couldn't come
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in the WhatsApp
chat group and texting
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sending messages back and forth.
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I didn't know that was going on
until a few times, we were late
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- delayed - getting
some of the messages up.
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We were getting messages
and they were like: "Hey,
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what is it
late? What's goin' on?
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We need this for
our Bible study group! "
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And so it's really for
everyone around the world,
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and it's the free
message of the grace of Jesus
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through the everlasting gospel.
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We're thrilled that the Lord
has placed in us the means to
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spread the gospel in this way.
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Amen! Praise the Lord!
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I was tellin' you guys during
the break that I have listened
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to... I don't know, I
can't even count... hundreds,
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hundreds and hundreds
of hours as I've traveled
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in my evangelistic efforts.
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AudioVerse. Pick a sermon...
you know, sermon after sermon.
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So it's such a
blessing. But I have to ask this
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because as an AudioVerse
user I'm sure there's many many
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people watching who are
very familiar with AudioVerse.
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But I'm sure there's
probably some features
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or some aspects to this ministry
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that many people are unaware
of as current users or you know
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perpetual users. So what
are some of those maybe features
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that people may not know about?
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I'll let Eli share some
of that but just one thought
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back on what you
were just mentioning.
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I think it might be
helpful to get some context
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to the scale of
influence that AudioVerse has.
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As you mentioned,
you're listening on a road trip
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and all that kind of
thing. We actually have measured
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that in an average month on
AudioVerse over 140,000 hrs.
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of content is being listened
to. If you divide that out,
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that equals over 5,800 days
every month of the equivalent...
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basically, you're playing
sermons for 5,800 days non-stop.
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That's the equivalent of
how much people listen to
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every month. Praise God!
In one month! In one month.
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Another way to think about it
is we've all been to these large
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conventions, maybe
it's a 3ABN Camp Meeting
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or an ASI convention where
thousands of people gather.
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Sure. The numbers
essential bear out.
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We have a convention of
that scale every single day
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happening on our site. Wow!
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So the gospel is going
out and we're thankful to
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be a part of that. Praise God
for that; praise God for that.
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Nothing's holding the Lord back
from getting the gospel out.
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AudioVerse is
playing a major role in that.
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Some of the features
that maybe some of our users
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use it on a daily
basis are not familiar with
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are, with the new app
that we've developed recently,
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is these libraries where you
can collect different sermons
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that you want to
listen to later. Um-hmm.
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And with the new
app you can actually...
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You know sometimes you don't get
to listen to the whole sermon.
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Maybe you're busy and
half-way through. Sure.
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But now it remembers every
place that you listened to it
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in the past in that library.
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You can go back to it
and listen to it again later.
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And so there's...
That's so cool because
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I find myself all the time
watching a sermon on YouTube
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or something and
I'll have to remember:
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"OK... I'm at 1923. "
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But that's... It works great
for listening to the Bible,
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right? So you know you're
trying to listen to the whole
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Bible: it can
remember where you left off
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and you can listen to the
whole Bible in less than a year.
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That's awesome. And
that's one of the things
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about that is as long
as you have an account -
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set up a free
account on our service -
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we sync your
progress across devices.
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So if you're at home on a
computer and you listen to...
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half-way, you can pick up
your phone and hop in the car
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it will remember where
you were and you just pick up
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where you left off.
That's if you sign up
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and register your
account. A lot of our users
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just actually go to the
website, listen to the sermon.
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They don't sign in, but
it's a benefit to sign in
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so it saves all your libraries.
It saves where you were
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at before across devices.
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So they can listen for free,
but if they want access to these
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special features you're
speaking of you know to sign in.
00:18:50.23\00:18:52.76
I guess register on
a particular account.
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And it's a free account; there's
no charge for our service.
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Wow! That is so awesome.
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Praise the Lord for that.
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So let's talk about...
Even though it seems like
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we're somewhat coming
out of this COVID pandemic...
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I mean, my goodness... it's
still... it's still a thing.
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We'll say that. Yeah.
It's not what it used to be
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but it's still a
thing. But I understand that
00:19:14.18\00:19:16.15
AudioVerse underwent
some major I guess changes
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or major experiences
during that particular time.
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So I guess my question is:
how was AudioVerse affected
00:19:24.59\00:19:28.40
during the pandemic?
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Well... I can
answer that. Basically
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a lot of churches
were shut down - right -
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but AudioVerse wasn't.
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That's right. So we became
a church for a lot of people.
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Amen, brother. And
our "listenership" I guess
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increased
tremendously during that time.
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People were using it for
church for spiritual growth.
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And so it was a tremendous
blessing. And we used that time
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actually to... we decided
we needed to really expand
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or update our
infrastructure of our apps
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'cause it was I guess
from the very beginning
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we didn't change
from how it was programmed
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from the very beginning,
and the Internet and the world
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changed a lot. So during that
time we took that opportunity
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to re-do the
entire infrastructure.
00:20:10.97\00:20:14.81
Wow! And if you're not
a programmer or developer
00:20:15.01\00:20:16.88
you might say: "Was
it that big of a deal? "
00:20:17.08\00:20:19.88
If you're a developer,
you're probably like: "Wow! "
00:20:20.08\00:20:21.82
So I think Alistair
gave me an analogy of that.
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It was like we were in a
single-prop engine airplane
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and we decided to upgrade our
airplane to a Boeing 777. Wow!
00:20:31.93\00:20:37.30
You know? While
we're flying, right? Wow!
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That's amazing. That
was quite the focus. Yeah.
00:20:40.74\00:20:43.67
And really ultimately
why do we have to do that?
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Well for one, we have the time
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because events were shut down.
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We didn't have much
travel going on - sure -
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but the work had to
continue. That's right.
00:20:52.38\00:20:54.52
And we also foresaw:
"You know what? The gospel
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still has to go to the world
and we need to reach a lot more
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people. " But our infrastructure
was not ready for that.
00:20:59.85\00:21:02.52
We had to be able to scale up.
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And so in order to adopt in -
you know - thousands & millions
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more users in the future we had
to fix the underpinning - sure!
00:21:07.73\00:21:10.10
of the ministry. And so
we rebuilt the whole thing -
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wow - from top
to bottom basically.
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Full... We stripped it down to
the studs to use another analogy
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for our audience. And one
of the pieces that we recently
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just launched is we
have a brand-new mobile app
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and refreshed design
with some of the new features
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that we discussed before.
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And it just rolled out
not long ago for our users.
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And we actually made a
short video to just highlight
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the new app, so
maybe we can run it now.
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Yeah, let's run
the video right now.
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Covenant relationship
with my God, my Savior.
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Sick or well;
whether you are young or old;
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whether your body is afflicted
or you're the flower of health
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trust the One who
holds your life in His hands.
00:22:12.53\00:22:18.10
Let's pray. Father in heaven...
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Wow! That's amazing.
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So how long did it take? Having
to build or kind of re-vamp
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or create this new app?
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How long does some
process like that take?
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Basically, it took two years...
since the start of the pandemic
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'cause we had to upgrade a great
deal of the underpinnings. Sure.
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And then the mobile app was
kind of the last piece of it.
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Before that we also
launched a new website.
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We actually have
a few images of that
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and we can show
our audience now.
00:23:04.41\00:23:05.75
Our new website also
has a similar look. OK.
00:23:05.91\00:23:09.05
We've got two images.
The next one is on a laptop
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computer showing our
new media player. Oh wow!
00:23:11.62\00:23:14.06
And then of course we also
have a few images here of our
00:23:14.26\00:23:16.52
mobile app to give you a
better view than the video.
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The new AudioVerse app is like
having a preacher in your pocket
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we like to say. That's right!
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You've got all the
different new features,
00:23:24.43\00:23:26.03
and thank you so much for
showing those images. Yes!
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For our audience, you can
download it for free right now
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from the Google
Play and iOS app store.
00:23:31.61\00:23:33.68
Or if you don't
even have a Smartphone
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you can find us
online. Right? at our website:
00:23:35.44\00:23:37.01
And all of these new features...
the ultimate mission -
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sure - is to make the gospel
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more accessible to the people
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of the world so that we can be
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ready for Jesus to come. Um-hmm.
00:23:47.62\00:23:48.96
And I'm thankful that
during the pandemic...
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One other
testimony really is that
00:23:50.96\00:23:52.99
while the world was locked down
00:23:53.19\00:23:55.66
we were concerned
about the financial means
00:23:55.86\00:23:57.90
to be able to afford development
of the app and the technology
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but the Lord was gracious that
the generosity of His people
00:24:02.40\00:24:06.44
and His listeners really came
through to allow us to invest
00:24:06.64\00:24:09.08
heavily when other
aspects of what we were doing
00:24:09.28\00:24:12.81
were slower. That's amazing.
00:24:13.01\00:24:14.98
So I have to ask...
not that I'm expecting
00:24:15.18\00:24:17.42
you to give any
type of specific numbers
00:24:17.62\00:24:19.02
but you had to have seen a
major increase from right before
00:24:19.22\00:24:24.29
the pandemic. Then
the pandemic comes...
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I mean, did you guys see a
massive increase in numbers
00:24:26.86\00:24:29.80
or traffic? It
was a surge. Oh yeah.
00:24:30.00\00:24:31.37
At the peak we were
well over 50% higher
00:24:31.57\00:24:34.04
you know from a
month-to-month basis.
00:24:34.24\00:24:36.07
On a total basis, you
know it's hard to exactly
00:24:36.27\00:24:38.51
figure out where
to start counting.
00:24:38.71\00:24:40.48
But it was
definitely a surge in traffic.
00:24:40.68\00:24:43.01
There's no question.
That's amazing! That's amazing.
00:24:43.21\00:24:45.11
I love the fact that... Obvious-
ly this whole pandemic thing
00:24:45.31\00:24:48.68
is the enemy just trying
to attack and trying to...
00:24:48.88\00:24:51.42
You could just imagine
the enemy trying to think:
00:24:51.62\00:24:53.62
"Oh, I'm going to
shut the church down. "
00:24:53.82\00:24:55.16
"I'm going to shut the gospel
down. I'm going to prevent
00:24:55.22\00:24:57.13
all these people from
receiving the gospel. "
00:24:57.33\00:24:58.79
But yet the Lord was like:
"Yeah, but you forgot about
00:24:58.99\00:25:00.50
AudioVerse. " "You
forgot about 3ABN. "
00:25:00.70\00:25:02.30
"And you forgot about... " And
so God is using your ministry
00:25:02.50\00:25:04.93
and has used your ministry
to be able to reach people
00:25:05.13\00:25:08.17
during a time when the enemy
perhaps has the plans to shut
00:25:08.37\00:25:11.01
that communication down. But
praise God for what AudioVerse
00:25:11.21\00:25:14.08
is doing. Yeah, one
other thing about the expansion
00:25:14.28\00:25:17.18
that you are just talking
about is during the pandemic
00:25:17.38\00:25:19.08
we actually expanded
to a few other languages
00:25:19.28\00:25:21.65
during that time. So the
Japanese site we were working on
00:25:21.85\00:25:24.79
even beforehand. So we
have a new Japanese site.
00:25:24.99\00:25:27.82
We also launched a
Russian language site.
00:25:28.02\00:25:30.49
Of course Russia is
in the news a lot today,
00:25:30.69\00:25:33.56
and I know 3ABN has done a
lot of work in Russia as well.
00:25:33.76\00:25:36.43
Sure. And so we have a
brand new launch there.
00:25:36.83\00:25:39.77
And we're working with a team
in the Scandinavian countries
00:25:39.97\00:25:42.64
right now for 3 of
the Nordic languages
00:25:42.84\00:25:45.11
to also come online - sure
- hopefully later this year.
00:25:45.31\00:25:47.61
So we have not been sitting
still... even though maybe
00:25:47.81\00:25:50.05
the world was in lockdown
we were not sitting still.
00:25:50.25\00:25:52.61
That's right! Amen. So
yeah, the gospel needs to go.
00:25:52.81\00:25:54.75
Reminds me of that
quote how we're spreading out
00:25:54.95\00:25:56.92
to the whole world.
Sure. Ellen White said in...
00:25:57.12\00:25:59.72
in Life Sketches... she was re-
ferring to the publishing work
00:25:59.92\00:26:04.83
talking to her husband
00:26:05.03\00:26:06.56
and she was talking about
how "from this small beginning
00:26:06.76\00:26:10.17
it was shown to me to
be like streams of light
00:26:10.37\00:26:13.64
that went clear
around the world. "
00:26:13.84\00:26:16.81
Amen. And we thought
we're kind of an extension
00:26:17.01\00:26:19.17
of like the
publishing work in a sense. Yes!
00:26:19.37\00:26:21.54
because back then they would
actually, take the sermons...
00:26:21.74\00:26:23.75
They would listen to it
and write it down, and then
00:26:23.95\00:26:25.28
they would publish it.
Right. In a sense, we're taking
00:26:25.48\00:26:27.68
the actual sermons in audio form
00:26:27.88\00:26:29.68
and sending it in
literal beams of light
00:26:29.88\00:26:32.35
in fiber optic cables
around the whole world.
00:26:32.55\00:26:35.46
Yes! And it makes... you
just kind of picture that.
00:26:35.66\00:26:36.99
So countries we can't actually
go to we can at least stream to.
00:26:37.19\00:26:41.76
Amen! It's such a blessing!
00:26:41.96\00:26:43.77
And I love the fact that
we have our slogan for the new
00:26:43.97\00:26:46.60
redesign is "Sound Doctrine. "
00:26:46.80\00:26:49.64
Oh, I love that! I like that.
00:26:49.84\00:26:51.61
Very nice. And
it's great because
00:26:51.81\00:26:54.44
what we are NOT is
we are not YouTube -
00:26:54.64\00:26:56.75
right - in a sense
because YouTube has ads.
00:26:56.95\00:26:59.41
They have a lot of
things you don't want to see.
00:26:59.61\00:27:01.38
There's a lot of suggested
content after you watch
00:27:01.58\00:27:04.42
for secular things: like
a new movie that came out.
00:27:04.62\00:27:06.59
You don't want
to get distracted.
00:27:06.92\00:27:08.52
That reminds me of a story
of Emily from New York City.
00:27:08.72\00:27:12.33
She's a 14-year-old
girl who wrote to us
00:27:12.53\00:27:16.16
telling us how AudioVerse
had affected her life.
00:27:16.36\00:27:18.83
She was trying so hard she said
00:27:19.03\00:27:21.37
to not be distracted by
the things of this world
00:27:21.57\00:27:23.44
and she said that specifically
a social media platform that
00:27:23.64\00:27:26.57
she used to listen to
sermons she didn't watch because
00:27:27.48\00:27:29.21
it was too distracting. Oh
yeah! She specifically said that
00:27:29.44\00:27:31.88
and she said: "So I
turned to AudioVerse
00:27:32.08\00:27:33.88
and it was such a blessing. "
On her morning commute to school
00:27:34.08\00:27:37.99
she would listen
to it every day. Wow!
00:27:38.19\00:27:39.75
Uninterrupted?
Uninterrupted. Praise God!
00:27:39.95\00:27:41.72
That's like sound doctrine.
You don't have to worry about
00:27:41.92\00:27:43.99
what am I going to get... what
am I going to listen to today?
00:27:44.19\00:27:47.40
We pride ourselves
in making sure that
00:27:48.03\00:27:51.07
the content is... Sure. I mean
that's actually one of our tag
00:27:51.27\00:27:55.57
lines right, isn't
it? "Curating the best
00:27:55.77\00:27:59.14
in Adventist audio content. "
00:27:59.34\00:28:00.68
Curating the best
Adventist audio content.
00:28:00.74\00:28:02.84
Praise the Lord! So
don't have to worry.
00:28:03.04\00:28:04.71
A lot of times also
people who are living
00:28:04.91\00:28:07.48
in a small town
somewhere, don't have access to
00:28:07.68\00:28:10.39
some experts in the
field of certain topics:
00:28:10.59\00:28:13.36
Daniel & Revelation or whatever
00:28:13.56\00:28:15.12
and they don't get to
maybe hear those speakers -
00:28:15.32\00:28:17.76
um-hmm - in all
parts of the world.
00:28:17.96\00:28:19.49
And they can rest assured
that when they go to AudioVerse
00:28:19.89\00:28:24.23
that they can get
access to those sermons. Sure.
00:28:24.43\00:28:27.07
They don't have to worry about:
"Am I going to listen to this
00:28:27.27\00:28:29.07
hour sermon on YouTube? "
Well, YouTube or whatever...
00:28:29.27\00:28:32.17
website... "I'm not sure if
this is good content or not. "
00:28:32.37\00:28:36.64
Right. Just posted by whoever.
00:28:36.85\00:28:38.48
But we know that we've
vetted it. Absolutely... wow!
00:28:38.88\00:28:42.78
Praise the Lord! So are there
any other further developments
00:28:42.98\00:28:45.99
with AudioVerse that
maybe our people listening
00:28:46.19\00:28:50.33
may not be aware of?
Plans or anything you have
00:28:50.53\00:28:52.49
for the future in
regards to expanding AudioVerse
00:28:52.69\00:28:55.60
or anything like that? Yeah.
Actually, we are looking at
00:28:55.80\00:28:58.87
a few other languages that
we mentioned. Right; right.
00:28:59.07\00:29:01.04
Starting with Jesus is still
going strong with children's
00:29:01.24\00:29:03.20
content, and one of the things
that we really are focused on
00:29:03.41\00:29:06.74
is making AudioVerse
a tool for evangelism.
00:29:06.94\00:29:09.74
A tool for our listeners
to use in their tool kit
00:29:09.94\00:29:13.68
to reach other people.
00:29:13.88\00:29:15.22
AudioVerse as a media
ministry we are no substitute.
00:29:15.25\00:29:17.89
We understand this very
clearly. We do not substitute
00:29:18.09\00:29:20.76
the actual live preacher:
the personal evangelist,
00:29:20.96\00:29:23.83
the neighbor knocking on
a neighbor's door to give
00:29:24.03\00:29:26.63
a Bible study. But we
want to be there to assist
00:29:26.83\00:29:29.16
and to augment that experience.
00:29:29.36\00:29:31.63
And so we do have some ideas
of how we're going to do that.
00:29:31.83\00:29:33.97
I think we really have to tell
you this amazing story - oh,
00:29:34.17\00:29:37.61
absolutely - of Dr. Kim. So a
friend of ours, Dr. Calvin Kim,
00:29:37.84\00:29:42.34
he is truly an evangelist.
00:29:42.54\00:29:46.55
He has a... he's a
very busy dentist -
00:29:46.75\00:29:49.15
uh-huh, and has a
very busy dental practice.
00:29:49.35\00:29:51.59
But there's no excuse. He really
just... The time he DOES have
00:29:51.79\00:29:55.46
he has 20 or more Bible studies.
00:29:55.66\00:29:58.69
I'm sure it's probably more
now. I don't know, you know.
00:29:58.89\00:30:01.00
Twenty Bible studies that
he is having on a weekly basis.
00:30:01.20\00:30:04.83
Wow! And as
Alistair said there's...
00:30:05.03\00:30:07.70
AudioVerse can be
used as a tool - sure -
00:30:07.90\00:30:10.87
so a lot of times
his Bible study contacts
00:30:11.07\00:30:13.71
they would have questions.
00:30:13.91\00:30:15.31
He would have a study
on let's say the Sabbath
00:30:15.51\00:30:17.28
and they had questions.
00:30:17.48\00:30:19.01
"How do I keep the
Sabbath? " "I work on Sabbath...
00:30:19.21\00:30:22.45
what do I do? "
And so he shared about
00:30:22.65\00:30:24.02
how he shared a
sermon of Steve Kasperbauer
00:30:24.22\00:30:27.62
who spoke at ASI a few years ago
00:30:27.82\00:30:30.13
about how he had a company
that is a tourist company
00:30:30.33\00:30:33.36
that he has closed down on
Sabbath and God blessed him.
00:30:33.56\00:30:36.40
And so he shared that
with him. And because of that
00:30:36.60\00:30:38.80
the person was blessed.
So he caters to their needs.
00:30:39.00\00:30:41.97
Sure. As they are asking
questions about a certain things
00:30:42.17\00:30:44.87
he will share an
AudioVerse sermon with them
00:30:45.07\00:30:47.94
either before or
after if they have questions
00:30:48.14\00:30:50.68
during the week. 'Cause he
can't spend countless hours.
00:30:50.88\00:30:53.78
Yeah, absolutely. But he has
twenty of them and he can use
00:30:53.98\00:30:56.92
AudioVerse to
help him along the way.
00:30:57.12\00:30:58.65
Absolutely! But
that's not the whole story.
00:30:58.85\00:31:01.62
There's more...
there's more to this story.
00:31:01.82\00:31:04.43
So Dr. Calvin Kim
told us the story of how he
00:31:04.63\00:31:08.60
basically multiples his time
- right? with his... you know...
00:31:08.80\00:31:12.50
several dozen
Bible study contacts.
00:31:12.70\00:31:14.77
And then we got a story
from a gentleman named Ricky.
00:31:14.97\00:31:17.94
And Ricky tells us:
"I came across AudioVerse
00:31:18.34\00:31:21.14
because of my local dentist. "
00:31:21.34\00:31:22.91
Guess who it was? It
was Dr. Calvin Kim. Wow!
00:31:23.11\00:31:25.95
And he says he's an automotive
technician. He works on cars
00:31:26.15\00:31:30.05
and he is able to
listen to sermons all day long.
00:31:30.25\00:31:33.66
And so he's just binge
listening sermons on AudioVerse
00:31:33.86\00:31:36.79
and then he has his weekly
Bible studies with Dr. Kim.
00:31:36.99\00:31:39.49
And just a few weeks ago he
was baptized into the church!
00:31:39.69\00:31:44.20
Wow! Praise the Lord!
But then the amazing thing is
00:31:44.40\00:31:47.47
he says "Praise the
Lord for that. " And his wife
00:31:47.67\00:31:50.14
and his son came to the
baptism, heard his testimony
00:31:50.34\00:31:53.04
and now they're
having Bible studies
00:31:53.24\00:31:55.18
and they're listening
to AudioVerse on their own.
00:31:55.38\00:31:58.11
So you see the
multiplication effect -
00:31:58.31\00:32:01.45
absolutely - of one Bible
worker who is a dentist...
00:32:01.78\00:32:05.12
super busy... multiplying
his time and influence using
00:32:05.32\00:32:08.69
the tools of AudioVerse
influencing this young man.
00:32:08.89\00:32:12.09
And now his wife and his
son... they're all coming
00:32:12.29\00:32:16.26
to a knowledge of
the truth and of Jesus.
00:32:16.46\00:32:18.10
And this is exactly
why AudioVerse exists. Yes!
00:32:18.30\00:32:20.64
We are a tool in the
hands of God's people
00:32:20.84\00:32:22.60
to help spread the
gospel. Once you hear sermons
00:32:22.80\00:32:24.17
then you use AudioVerse more.
When you hear something that's
00:32:24.37\00:32:27.14
such a blessing to you you
want to share it with others.
00:32:27.34\00:32:29.74
Absolutely. You just can't
help it. You just start sharing
00:32:29.94\00:32:32.55
with others and that's
why it's such a blessing.
00:32:32.75\00:32:34.95
You don't have to be
a Bible worker, right?
00:32:35.15\00:32:36.99
Calvin Kim... he's a doctor.
00:32:37.19\00:32:38.79
I mean Eric Walsh...
he's a doctor as well.
00:32:38.99\00:32:40.36
But God can use you no
matter how busy your life is.
00:32:40.56\00:32:45.13
Anybody can click SHARE.
00:32:45.33\00:32:48.06
Anybody can e-mail or
click on that SHARE button.
00:32:48.26\00:32:50.33
It's very easy to
share it on social media,
00:32:50.53\00:32:52.53
share it anywhere. And
it can definitely augment
00:32:52.73\00:32:56.34
your Bible study
contacts in many ways.
00:32:56.54\00:33:02.04
That's right. So like
when you're... I don't know,
00:33:02.24\00:33:05.35
in the beginning when
you were building this app
00:33:05.55\00:33:06.88
and even up to now
to get this content
00:33:06.95\00:33:09.22
do you have to get permission
from people to choose their
00:33:09.42\00:33:11.82
content? Or how
does that process work
00:33:12.02\00:33:13.86
on how you gather the
content to put on AudioVerse?
00:33:14.06\00:33:16.76
But you know, one of
the things we've mentioned
00:33:16.96\00:33:18.86
and one of the repeated things
that our listeners tell us
00:33:19.06\00:33:21.30
they value the most
about the AudioVerse platform
00:33:21.50\00:33:23.73
is that they don't have to worry
about the quality of the content
00:33:23.93\00:33:27.34
they're getting. They
know it's going to be Bible.
00:33:27.54\00:33:29.60
They know it's
going to be solid.
00:33:29.80\00:33:31.14
They know it's going to be
Christ-centered & Spirit-filled.
00:33:31.17\00:33:33.78
And so we take that very
seriously: how to resource
00:33:33.98\00:33:35.88
our content. And as
of right now we release
00:33:36.08\00:33:39.05
well over 2,000
messages every year.
00:33:39.25\00:33:41.15
And every day we have
new content coming out.
00:33:41.35\00:33:43.72
And so we don't have a shortage
of content, but how do we
00:33:43.92\00:33:46.29
maintain that quality?
Right. The way we go about this
00:33:46.49\00:33:49.76
with a very small team -
we keep our expenses low -
00:33:49.96\00:33:53.03
is we work with
existing partners. OK.
00:33:53.23\00:33:56.06
So we have partners like 3ABN:
one of our close partners here
00:33:56.26\00:33:59.13
and as well as ASI. I know
you guys work with them as well.
00:33:59.33\00:34:02.00
And GYC and various churches
- sure - and other ministries:
00:34:02.20\00:34:05.34
the Amazing Facts and It
Is Writtens of the world.
00:34:05.54\00:34:07.74
And through those networks
organically our network of
00:34:07.94\00:34:11.35
people we know and
trust it grows... because they
00:34:11.55\00:34:16.18
are trusted partners. And
if they're going to work...
00:34:16.38\00:34:18.12
Like 3ABN. If you're working
with somebody more than likely
00:34:18.32\00:34:20.92
we're going to see things
eye-to-eye and we're going to
00:34:21.12\00:34:22.79
be on the same page. So
that's how our network has
00:34:22.99\00:34:25.49
grown until now we have
a vast network of thousands
00:34:25.69\00:34:28.36
of partners. Sure. And
we have regular content
00:34:28.56\00:34:30.60
from those various
sources. And then we have
00:34:30.80\00:34:33.74
very clear guidelines and values
that we outline publicly on our
00:34:33.94\00:34:37.51
website by which we determine
what content is permissible.
00:34:37.71\00:34:40.74
And then our team
works the process and we post
00:34:40.94\00:34:44.85
the messages that are
appropriate in that way.
00:34:45.05\00:34:47.85
Amen. Praise the Lord!
00:34:48.05\00:34:49.38
So just real quickly
just off the top of your head
00:34:49.55\00:34:51.79
somebody may be
watching right now and says:
00:34:51.99\00:34:53.72
"Well I'm interested in this
AudioVerse but are my favorite
00:34:53.92\00:34:56.93
speakers on there? " So
what are some of the speakers
00:34:57.13\00:34:59.16
that are notable
for being on AudioVerse?
00:34:59.36\00:35:03.03
Well everybody knows who
Doug Batchelor is, right?
00:35:03.23\00:35:05.93
Pastor Finley is a regular.
00:35:06.13\00:35:09.47
And John Bradshaw from
It Is Written of course.
00:35:09.67\00:35:12.97
And we've worked
with 3ABN many times.
00:35:13.17\00:35:15.78
OK. We have ASI content
00:35:15.98\00:35:18.01
so lots of speakers...
there's a mix there. OK.
00:35:18.21\00:35:20.75
Of course Elder Wilson
from the General Conference.
00:35:20.95\00:35:23.18
I'm pretty sure if there's
someone that you're looking for
00:35:23.59\00:35:27.32
more than likely... I'd
encourage you search for
00:35:27.52\00:35:30.23
other speakers that you
don't even know about. Right.
00:35:30.43\00:35:32.86
That's how Shani
discovered new speakers
00:35:33.06\00:35:36.23
she didn't even
know is by just searching
00:35:36.43\00:35:38.57
and going through the...
One of our most common sections
00:35:38.77\00:35:41.20
of our app
before was the trending.
00:35:41.40\00:35:44.94
What's trending and what's new?
00:35:45.14\00:35:47.31
So people always go directly to
there and see what's trending.
00:35:47.71\00:35:50.45
That's kind of in a way
it's vetted by the whole world
00:35:50.65\00:35:54.38
because as they're sharing
it more, listening to it more,
00:35:54.58\00:35:57.82
the algorithm puts it
up higher on that list.
00:35:58.02\00:36:01.42
So they go: "Oh, what is this?
I never heard of this speaker. "
00:36:01.62\00:36:03.63
Personally I've
done that myself.
00:36:03.83\00:36:05.69
I've never heard this
speaker but he's #1 on the list
00:36:05.89\00:36:07.76
right now. Let
me listen to it. "
00:36:07.96\00:36:09.30
I'm like: "Wow! This
is a real blessing. "
00:36:09.46\00:36:10.90
Right. "This guy
really knows his stuff. "
00:36:11.10\00:36:13.17
Ultimately we're just
trying to spread the Word
00:36:13.37\00:36:16.71
to the world and
we've got to increase faith.
00:36:16.91\00:36:20.51
Says: "faith cometh by hearing"
that's right - "hearing by the
00:36:20.71\00:36:23.18
Word of God. " Hearing by the
Word of God. That's so powerful!
00:36:23.38\00:36:25.21
I want to tell a quick story
00:36:25.41\00:36:26.75
related to this exact question
of discovering new speakers
00:36:26.88\00:36:29.32
and all of that.
During the pandemic again
00:36:29.52\00:36:31.75
we got a testimony
from a lady named Laura
00:36:31.95\00:36:35.12
where she came across a series
by Dr. Norman McNulty - OK -
00:36:35.52\00:36:40.06
on last-day events.
It's called Last Day Events
00:36:40.26\00:36:42.66
Made Simple or something.
Last Day Events Explained
00:36:42.86\00:36:46.63
I think is what he called
it. Right. And if you haven't
00:36:46.84\00:36:48.80
listened to it, to our listening
audience you can find it
00:36:49.00\00:36:50.67
on AudioVerse right now.
Yeah! And you know during the
00:36:50.87\00:36:52.67
COVID pandemic there was a lot
of talk and a lot of questions
00:36:52.87\00:36:55.24
about final events.
And so he systematically
00:36:55.44\00:36:58.21
very clearly explained
our understanding of prophecy
00:36:58.41\00:37:01.95
and the last days leading
up to Christ's second coming.
00:37:02.15\00:37:04.79
And Laura was so blessed by it.
Never heard of Norman before.
00:37:04.99\00:37:08.49
Started
listening to this series.
00:37:08.69\00:37:10.43
She introduced it to
her friends, and before long
00:37:10.63\00:37:12.93
they were using it as a basis
of their ladies study group.
00:37:13.13\00:37:15.83
And because they weren't
really gathering together
00:37:16.03\00:37:18.10
they could do it digitally
because it was all through
00:37:18.30\00:37:19.73
AudioVerse. Right. And then
her husband started listening
00:37:19.93\00:37:22.24
and their men's SS class started
studying that topic as well.
00:37:22.44\00:37:27.64
So they used the series
as a launching-off point
00:37:27.84\00:37:29.78
and then they would do
their own reading and so forth.
00:37:29.98\00:37:31.58
And as a result, not only
did they come into knowledge
00:37:31.78\00:37:35.18
of this new speaker it
was a whole series of studies
00:37:35.38\00:37:38.39
that led them into a better
understanding of prophecy.
00:37:38.59\00:37:41.19
And another friend of mine
who was also friends with Laura
00:37:41.39\00:37:45.39
her parents also started...
recommended this series
00:37:45.59\00:37:48.86
on last day events
and they were convicted
00:37:49.06\00:37:51.47
that it's time to
move out of the city
00:37:51.67\00:37:53.44
as some of the counsel that
they read... and they did it.
00:37:53.64\00:37:56.74
And so actual
real-life change happened
00:37:56.94\00:38:00.21
as a result of
people listening to speakers
00:38:00.41\00:38:02.51
that: "Hey! Never
heard of him before! "
00:38:02.71\00:38:04.45
And then they
studied together, dug deeper,
00:38:04.65\00:38:07.62
and as a result, made
actual tangible changes
00:38:07.82\00:38:10.55
in accordance to what
God has told us to do. Sure.
00:38:10.75\00:38:12.45
Wow! That's amazing! That
also brings us to the fact
00:38:12.65\00:38:15.72
that another feature
we're working on is trying to
00:38:15.92\00:38:18.23
have content for the user.
00:38:18.43\00:38:22.10
For you basically. OK,
yeah. So right now they'd say:
00:38:22.30\00:38:25.97
"That's, you know... " I'm
sure if you use social media
00:38:26.17\00:38:28.44
it seems like your feed
is based on what you're...
00:38:28.64\00:38:31.57
what you're interested in.
Yeah. But ours is from a more
00:38:31.77\00:38:34.11
spiritual perspective and
where you are at in your life.
00:38:34.31\00:38:37.01
Right. If you're a 14-year-old
girl, maybe you have different
00:38:37.21\00:38:39.41
problems or sermons
that you want to listen to...
00:38:39.61\00:38:42.15
You're talking about like
if somebody is interested in
00:38:42.35\00:38:44.55
a specific topic -
um-hmm - or specific subject
00:38:44.75\00:38:46.89
or specific speakers or whatever
00:38:47.09\00:38:48.92
the app? We have some specific
questions that you can answer
00:38:49.12\00:38:53.16
and then it will
cater it for you.
00:38:53.36\00:38:56.13
And so if you're interested
in more... I don't know...
00:38:56.33\00:38:59.43
prophecy stuff for some reason
the algorithm might realize that
00:38:59.63\00:39:02.97
or understand that
about you and feed you more
00:39:03.17\00:39:05.77
of those kind of... So
you'll discover new speakers
00:39:05.97\00:39:07.64
that you never knew of before
00:39:07.84\00:39:09.94
or even sermons that
you never heard before.
00:39:10.15\00:39:12.11
That's amazing! We have
20,000 sermons and counting.
00:39:12.31\00:39:16.79
And counting, right?
00:39:16.99\00:39:18.32
And most people
tend to go to like I said
00:39:18.35\00:39:20.79
the trending now or the new
00:39:20.99\00:39:23.09
and there's so many
like diamonds in the rough.
00:39:23.29\00:39:25.79
You know? Just
like really good sermons
00:39:25.99\00:39:27.60
that are perfect for you
that are hidden in there.
00:39:27.80\00:39:30.17
And that used to be
one of our complaints
00:39:30.37\00:39:32.43
in the very
beginning was - sure -
00:39:32.63\00:39:34.24
"I don't know where to
begin. Like where do I start? "
00:39:34.44\00:39:36.40
I remember YouTube even was
like that in the very beginning.
00:39:36.60\00:39:42.18
Now it's more catered to you.
00:39:42.38\00:39:44.61
In the same way we
want to do that for sermons
00:39:44.81\00:39:46.85
so that it's just like
how that one lady was...
00:39:47.05\00:39:51.85
Oh, I guess you can
share that story about how when
00:39:52.05\00:39:55.39
the 24/7 prayer group.
00:39:55.59\00:40:01.16
The perfect sermon;
you share that story.
00:40:02.06\00:40:03.57
Perfect, yes. It's related
to this idea of how messages
00:40:03.77\00:40:06.94
meeting a specific
need at a specific time.
00:40:07.14\00:40:09.47
So we got a testimony from
the 24/7 United Prayer Team.
00:40:09.87\00:40:14.41
Um-hmm. It was an around-
the-clock prayer meeting group
00:40:14.61\00:40:18.11
that was I believe orchestrated
by the Revival and Reformation
00:40:18.31\00:40:21.05
Committee of the
General Conference. Um-hmm.
00:40:21.25\00:40:22.58
And so they had 22 prayer
groups going around the clock.
00:40:22.85\00:40:26.92
And the way that it was
structured: they would have
00:40:27.12\00:40:29.46
thirty minutes of united prayer
00:40:29.66\00:40:31.33
and then the last 15 minutes
they would have a section
00:40:31.53\00:40:34.00
called Going Deeper in
which they would basically
00:40:34.20\00:40:37.33
play a message: a
devotional talk or Bible study.
00:40:37.53\00:40:40.14
And AudioVerse
became their go-to source
00:40:40.54\00:40:43.34
for content... largely because
they didn't have to filter.
00:40:43.54\00:40:46.37
They didn't have to guess:
"Is this appropriate or not? "
00:40:46.57\00:40:49.14
So they would pull this content
out and they would play it
00:40:49.34\00:40:52.08
during those 15
minutes. Remember: 22 different
00:40:52.28\00:40:54.78
prayer groups every single day.
00:40:54.98\00:40:56.42
And the testimony was
that frequently the message
00:40:57.02\00:41:02.62
that they listened to
was like the direct answer
00:41:03.06\00:41:04.83
to prayer to what they were
just praying about for 30 min.
00:41:05.03\00:41:07.86
Wow! And it was like: "This
is exactly the voice of God
00:41:08.06\00:41:11.63
telling us the answer to
what we were looking for. "
00:41:11.83\00:41:14.70
And the weariness
that they were feeling,
00:41:14.90\00:41:17.41
the depression lifted.
There was hope and encouragement
00:41:17.61\00:41:20.14
and people were re-invigorated.
00:41:20.34\00:41:21.98
And this is just one example
of... The Holy Spirit can
00:41:22.18\00:41:25.31
do the... the Holy
Spirit is the best algorithm.
00:41:25.51\00:41:28.38
He will leave a message
exactly who needs to hear what.
00:41:28.58\00:41:34.06
But we also recognize
that we can do our part.
00:41:34.26\00:41:36.76
We want to be able
to tailor the content
00:41:36.96\00:41:39.16
and the recommendations and
the "intelligence" if you will
00:41:39.36\00:41:41.83
of our platform - yes -
so that the right message
00:41:42.03\00:41:44.57
answering the right questions
gets to the right person
00:41:44.77\00:41:47.84
at the right time. That's ulti-
mately what we want to get to
00:41:48.04\00:41:50.97
because we want to reach the
world. And if we're going to be
00:41:51.17\00:41:53.88
you know spreading the message
to the people who are seeking
00:41:54.08\00:41:58.81
who aren't already
you know on Audioverse,
00:41:59.01\00:42:01.95
we're going to need to develop
those tools to reach them
00:42:02.15\00:42:04.25
where they are. And
ultimately that is our goal.
00:42:04.45\00:42:07.42
Right? To develop this tool to
reach people more effectively.
00:42:07.62\00:42:10.99
That's your next Audio...
You know this because your
00:42:11.19\00:42:14.20
next AudioVerse shirt.
Just put that right on there:
00:42:14.36\00:42:16.33
"The Holy Spirit is the
best algorithm. " Repeat that;
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share it on Facebook.
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I can see that on a
bumper sticker or something!
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The Holy Spirit is the
best algorithm. I love that!
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That's right. That is so
great. So a quick question
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that just popped into my
mind as you were speaking:
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Yeah. So I like all
kinds of different content.
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Obviously, I like the
new content, fresh content,
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which I know you guys are
constantly putting new stuff
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on there all the time, but
I guess the question becomes
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for those that are
unfamiliar with AudioVerse:
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you know, there's a lot of great
sermons from back in the day.
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So do you guys have
like "older" content
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that people can view?
Or do you remove them?
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Or do you just keep
adding to this database?
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Yeah, they're still
there. They're still there!
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We were discussing Daniel
and Revelation, and I looked up
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Daniel 8 and Daniel 9 and
Alistair's sermon from 2008
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I believe came up. OK! Or
maybe even older than that.
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That's not THAT old.
You're talking about OLD timey,
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right? I'm thinking
about like those great
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like... I don't know...
some people like Joe Crews
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or some of the old
Doug Batchelor sermons.
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Kenneth Cox and some of
these guys from back in the day.
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I don't know if you guys still
have some of that old content
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on there? Yeah! Great
content; great speakers.
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Oh, I'm glad you brought
this up because we're actually
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in the process of
working with Amazing Facts
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to get a bunch of old
Joe Crews stuff. Yes! Yes!
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We've also worked
with Voice of Prophecy.
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We have all the
classic H.M.S. Richards stuff.
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Oh man... that's great!
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We have multiple series by
a minister called Glenn Coon -
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OK - talking about prayer.
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That has been an
amazing blessing.
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Just miracle answers to prayer
and things of that nature.
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We are not discriminatory
toward older sermons.
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Absolutely. God's truth
is eternal. It is unchanging.
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And I grew up listening to
old preachers, right? Amen!
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C.D. Brooks and
those - Yes! Yep!
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those powerful,
powerful evangelists
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that really changed
our lives. Praise God!
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So as far as AudioVerse goes
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we don't... we rarely take
content off. Like we believe
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the messages need to go
and it doesn't really matter
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sometimes what date
the message was given.
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If it still meets the
needs, if it is still preaching
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the three angels' messages
and it is what the Holy Spirit
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can reach a person
where they need to be reached,
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we believe we need
to make that available.
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If they were relevant back
then, they're relevant today.
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Absolutely. God's
truth is always relevant.
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And that brings me to
my next question which is:
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In the world of technology
- technology fast changing -
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I mean it changes so
fast it's like... I remember
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back in the day when
the iPhone first came out.
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And it seemed like
there was a little while
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before the next one came
out. But now it's like they're
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spitting out these
things every single year.
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But I'm thinking in terms
of AudioVerse, the technology
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online app. How
do you stay relevant
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in the sense of you know
now looking towards the future
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and say: "OK, we've got
a great thing going here.
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It's working. We've
got great traffic. "
00:45:06.40\00:45:09.04
But how does AudioVerse remain
relevant in the sense that
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for the future plans
how does AudioVerse...
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how is AudioVerse looking
to make an even bigger impact
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for God in the
ministry in the future?
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I'm so glad you asked that.
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This is an area that we really
have to move forward by faith
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because it is just like
you say. What we have realized
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in the almost 20
years that we've been around
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is that technology moves
extremely quickly. Yes, it does!
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And because we are a web-based,
technology-based ministry -
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um-hmm - we are
playing in the big leagues
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in terms of the big
dollars. Oh for sure!
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We need developer expertise
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and we're talking about data
scientists and data analysts.
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We're talking about algorithms
and artificial intelligence
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and there's a lot of technology
"under the hood" so to say
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that is expensive.
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And all the big companies
are fighting for the same
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talent pool. And so I praise
the Lord that to this point
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He has sustained us. He
has brought us the right
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people at the right time,
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and He has supplied us
the necessary means by our
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you know sacrificial donors
and listeners and supporters.
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But this is an area
that we are very cognizant of
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as a board, as an organization:
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that this is not something
we can just rest on our laurels.
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Yeah, because we
live in a day and age...
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I hear people all the time say:
"Oh, yeah. This one particular
00:46:28.35\00:46:31.42
site I used to visit
or this one particular app
00:46:31.62\00:46:33.69
I use is just so outdated now.
00:46:33.89\00:46:35.56
It's old school and they
haven't really changed anything.
00:46:35.76\00:46:37.86
It's the same thing
from ten years ago. "
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And so I can see how
that can potentially be
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an issue. And so
what you guys are doing
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I mean, it's difficult.
Just hearing you explain
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what you just explained
with all of the people coming
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together to make this
happen it's so complex!
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That's right. Like even
one of our developers...
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Developers are not
cheap, of course, but we have
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a great team that sometimes
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we have to even
go across the world.
00:47:00.55\00:47:02.75
Like we had a team
in Ukraine, I believe,
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but during this
crisis in Ukraine
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we lost touch with them.
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So God provided
another programmer for us
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just at the last second.
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So God always
provides... which is...
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You know, good
developers are hard to find.
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You can find developers
but GOOD developers are hard.
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Dedicated to God's
work... that's even harder.
00:47:24.21\00:47:26.94
But God provides that for us.
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'Cause we are free, right?
So we don't charge for anything.
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It's all
supported by the donors.
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OK, so then that brings
me to my... I guess probably
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one of our final topics
here. Maybe we can tell another
00:47:36.65\00:47:38.82
story because we have a
little bit of time left.
00:47:39.02\00:47:40.82
But you know, there may
be someone watching right now
00:47:41.02\00:47:43.43
that says: "Wow! I
didn't know about AudioVerse. "
00:47:43.63\00:47:45.39
Or maybe there's someone
who said: "I LOVE AudioVerse"
00:47:45.59\00:47:47.43
and they feel
convicted I want to support it.
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How can listeners
support AudioVerse?
00:47:50.10\00:47:55.30
That's right. Well, first of all
00:47:55.50\00:47:57.91
as we've been
talking about use it.
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Become a user.
Listen to the content
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and share it. Yes! That
is the best thing you can do.
00:48:03.55\00:48:06.28
We're paid in
testimonies. There you go!
00:48:06.48\00:48:09.38
We don't care about
anything else. We just
00:48:09.58\00:48:11.25
love the testimonies and
that's why we do this for free.
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Amen! And also we
want to hear particularly
00:48:13.76\00:48:16.66
how God is changing lives.
00:48:16.86\00:48:18.19
Ultimately that
is what we're about.
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And so if you can use this tool
to help your own spiritual walk
00:48:19.86\00:48:24.00
with Christ and
use it to help others
00:48:24.20\00:48:26.00
that's the most important thing.
That's the best thing you can do
00:48:26.20\00:48:28.40
and share the Word. But
of course, as we mentioned
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we are a
donor-supported ministry.
00:48:31.84\00:48:33.38
And so we are dependent on the
generous, sacrificial support
00:48:33.58\00:48:37.25
of our listeners. And
because we operate online
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we're very careful
with our expenses. Um-hmm.
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And we have never "run in
the red" as they say. Sure.
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And so the Lord has
blessed us in that regard.
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But we are also very cognizant -
sure - that a lot of the future
00:48:49.52\00:48:52.19
development is not
going to come cheap. Right.
00:48:52.39\00:48:55.30
And in order for us to
maintain the level of quality
00:48:55.50\00:48:59.63
we're going to
need continued support.
00:48:59.83\00:49:01.40
'Cause I'll
mention this one point:
00:49:01.60\00:49:02.94
when we started I
mentioned iPhones didn't exist.
00:49:03.27\00:49:06.88
But in the short
period of time since then
00:49:07.28\00:49:09.11
everybody's got an
iPhone. And the most important
00:49:09.31\00:49:11.55
functions of our lives frequent-
ly happen on our devices. Yes.
00:49:11.75\00:49:14.62
And so everybody has a
very elevated expectation
00:49:14.82\00:49:18.69
of quality on their apps. Yeah.
00:49:18.89\00:49:20.36
But that's not cheap. Yes.
But more important than that
00:49:20.56\00:49:23.93
the content - the gospel
message that we're presenting -
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is of inestimable value.
00:49:28.30\00:49:30.77
And so the quality of
the experience has to be
00:49:30.97\00:49:33.60
representative of the truth
that we're bearing to people.
00:49:33.80\00:49:36.74
And that's why we
take it very seriously.
00:49:36.94\00:49:38.37
We don't want to cut corners.
We want to glorify the Lord
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in all that we do including
the quality of the code
00:49:40.84\00:49:43.08
that we write. And so the finan-
cial support of our listeners
00:49:43.28\00:49:46.18
is crucial to make that happen.
00:49:46.38\00:49:48.08
Amen. And I want
to let you know that
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Alistair's very
mindful of finances
00:49:50.15\00:49:55.32
as you may know.
If you do or not...
00:49:55.52\00:49:57.99
Some of our
viewers may not know this
00:49:58.19\00:49:59.96
but he's a
financial advisor. Am I right?
00:50:00.16\00:50:02.66
Is that the official
title? A side thing, yeah.
00:50:02.86\00:50:05.60
A side thing, but he
does talks on finance.
00:50:05.80\00:50:09.04
So when we're at the
board meetings we don't
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waste money at all.
That's right! Not at all.
00:50:13.11\00:50:15.51
I think he had a blog
about Saving the Crumbs
00:50:15.71\00:50:18.81
meaning how can you
be as frugal as possible
00:50:19.01\00:50:21.68
and save and not waste. Sure.
00:50:21.88\00:50:25.25
So the supporters can be
assured that if they give
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their money is going to be taken
care of. Yeah, that's right.
00:50:27.69\00:50:29.49
Everything. I think we
have a minute or so here.
00:50:29.69\00:50:32.99
We may not have time for
another story at this point
00:50:33.19\00:50:35.43
but my friends, I
just want to say...
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I just want to just myself
'cause we're going to come back
00:50:37.00\00:50:38.63
in just a moment
after a short break
00:50:38.83\00:50:40.17
and we're going to
hear some final thoughts
00:50:40.37\00:50:42.27
from these two guys.
And I just feel impressed
00:50:42.47\00:50:45.27
just to share with
you just a reminder.
00:50:45.47\00:50:47.94
A simple reminder of the
fact that we are commissioned
00:50:48.14\00:50:49.91
by Jesus Christ
right here in the gospel.
00:50:50.11\00:50:52.38
And I just want to
read Matthew chapter 28
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verses 18-20. It says: "And
Jesus came and spoke to them
00:50:54.35\00:50:57.42
saying: 'All
authority has been given to Me
00:50:57.62\00:50:59.82
in heaven and on earth.
00:51:00.02\00:51:01.82
Go, therefore, ' Jesus
says, 'and make disciples
00:51:02.22\00:51:04.96
of all nations, baptizing
them in the name of the Father
00:51:05.16\00:51:08.80
and of the Father
and of the Holy Spirit
00:51:09.00\00:51:10.33
teaching them to
observe all things... '
00:51:10.43\00:51:12.27
There it is: 'teaching
them to observe all things
00:51:12.47\00:51:15.07
that I have commanded you.
And lo I am with you always
00:51:15.27\00:51:17.77
even to the end of the age. ' "
00:51:17.97\00:51:19.44
We are commissioned to
take this gospel to the world,
00:51:19.64\00:51:21.94
and that's what
AudioVerse is all about.
00:51:22.14\00:51:24.28
They're playing their
role. God is using them
00:51:24.48\00:51:26.21
in a mighty mighty mighty way
00:51:26.41\00:51:28.28
to share the gospel with people
that would never have heard it
00:51:28.48\00:51:31.19
otherwise, if they had
not found this precious app
00:51:31.39\00:51:34.09
or this website or a
means to listen to a sermon
00:51:34.29\00:51:36.93
that introduces
them to Jesus Christ.
00:51:37.13\00:51:38.99
And so at this time I
want to take a short break
00:51:39.19\00:51:41.00
and what you're going to
see on your screen right next
00:51:41.20\00:51:43.33
is how you can support
AudioVerse or come in contact
00:51:43.53\00:51:46.70
with AudioVerse.
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