I want to spend my life
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mending broken people.
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I want to spend my life
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removing pain.
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Lord, let my words
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heal a heart that hurts.
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I want to spend my life
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mending broken people...
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I want to spend my life
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mending broken people.
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Hello and welcome to 3ABN Today.
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We're glad that
you have joined us
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and we have a program that
we know will be a blessing.
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My name is John Dinzey
and my wife Idalia is with me.
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And we are glad that we
have some special guests
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that have joined us to
share wonderful information.
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That is right. We're
going to be talking about
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the Encyclopedia of
Seventh-day Adventists.
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That's right. And you know,
that should awaken some interest
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in you, curiosity and all.
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But this is a very
informative program.
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I invite you to invite
your loved ones to also tune in
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and learn of this. That's right!
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So as you hear the information
we hope that you will become
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a person that you know where
to go when you want information
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about the history of the
Seventh-day Adventist Church.
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And we have plenty wonderful...
plenty of information to share.
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And I would like to
introduce our guests.
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Idalia, why don't you
introduce our guests today?
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Oh sure... of course.
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We have Dr.
Dragoslava Santrac with us
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and we want to
welcome you to the program.
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Thank you for being with us.
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Thank you. I am very
happy to be with you.
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Thank you. You are
the managing editor of the
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Encyclopedia of SDA's
at the General Conference.
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That's correct. Wonderful. Very
good. Thank you for being here.
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And Dr. David Trim, who is
the editor of the Encyclopedia
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of SDA's at the
General Conference of SDA's.
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Dr. David Trim...
welcome to the program.
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It's a pleasure to
be with you. Thank you.
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Thank you. We thank
you both so much for coming
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and this is a wonderful
opportunity to ask questions
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that we have in mind. Um-hmm.
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And we know that the
information you share
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will be taken
advantage of by many people.
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So... We hope so. Amen... Amen.
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Well, we are going to
go to the Lord in prayer.
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And we would like to
remind you that you can become
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part of the 3ABN family
by being a prayer warrior.
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What's a prayer warrior?
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Do you have to go out into
the battlefield and fight? No!
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Prayer warriors pray for
the prayer requests that 3ABN
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brings to you every
day. Every day we receive
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prayer requests
from around the world.
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And we have people that receive
some of these prayer requests.
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We send them a few...
not to overwhelm them.
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And of course, some of
you will hear prayers requests
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when you're listening on radio.
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And you will also see
prayer requests on the screen
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when you're
watching on television.
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And many people
just jot them down
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and pray for those needs.
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And we can tell you that
people call back and tell us:
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"My prayer was answered!
Thank you so much for praying. "
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And it's a
blessing to pray for others
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because as you pray for others
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you draw close to
the Lord as well. Um-hmm!
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So it's a wonderful opportunity.
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Plus we want to
pray for you as well.
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You have your needs
and you have your questions
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about what is the
Seventh-day Adventist church.
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You've been listening
and watching the programming
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learning of the
doctrines - Biblical doctrines -
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and you may be questioning.
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You know, many people
hear that the church is a sect
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or a cult, right?
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So I just want you to invite you
to prayerfully watch the program
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and learn of what
the SDA church is.
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Yes, and people
call with questions
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and so we encourage you
to call our prayer line.
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Encourage you to call
3ABN if you have questions.
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If you're calling from another
country please remember to
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add plus 1: 618-627-4651.
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Let's go to the Lord in prayer.
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Our wonderful and
loving heavenly Father,
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we thank you that we can
approach Your throne of grace
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with us knowing that
You will always be there.
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Knowing that You
will listen to our prayer.
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We thank you that we can
come to You in Jesus' name
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and we praise the Lord.
We understand that there's
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no other name under
heaven whereby we can be saved.
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Heavenly Father, we present
to You the prayer requests
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that have come in to
3ABN throughout this day.
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You know each and every person;
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You know each and every need.
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And heavenly
Father, You are all wise.
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You know the end
from the beginning.
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And there are people that
are ready today to be healed.
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We pray for healing upon them.
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Some must wait a little longer.
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Help them to
continue to trust in You. Yes.
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And it may be that some
will receive the answer that
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the apostle Paul
received: "My grace
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is sufficient for thee. " Yes.
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We pray, Lord, for those
that are looking for a job.
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Guide them to the
place where they should go
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and we pray that You
will bless them with favor
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that they may
receive the job they need
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not only to work and bring the
money they need into their home
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but also that their
talents may be further developed
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and where they can also shine &
show others the love of Christ.
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We pray, heavenly Father,
for marriages that are having
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difficulties. Be with
them; guide them through the
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process of coming to an
agreement and continuing
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facing the challenges
of life looking unto Jesus.
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And Lord, we pray for those
that are praying for loved ones
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that have perhaps left the
walk... they left their walk
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with Jesus and
are out in the world.
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We pray for Your Holy
Spirit to speak to their hearts
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to lead them back to
the foot of the cross
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and to salvation
through Jesus Christ.
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We ask for Your Holy
Spirit. Guide us and help us
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in this program - um-hmm - that
the information that is shared
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will be of great
blessing to Your children.
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We ask You to be with Dr. Trim
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and Dr. Dragoslava and bless us.
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We ask in Jesus' holy
and blessed name. Amen. Amen.
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Amen.
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And we are going
to read a scripture
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Hebrews chapter 12 vs. 1 and 2.
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Idalia, can you
help us with that?
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Sure. Hebrews 12:1-2 says:
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"Wherefore seeing we
also are compassed about
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with so great a
cloud of witnesses
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let us lay aside every weight
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and the sin which
doth so easily beset us
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and let us run with patience
the race that is set before us.
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Looking unto Jesus
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the Author and
Finisher of our faith
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who, for the joy
that was set before Him,
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endured the cross,
despising the shame
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and is set down at the right
hand of the throne of God. "
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Praise the Lord! May the
Lord add a blessing to His Word.
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Amen... Amen.
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Well, we'd like to
know... Both of you, if you have
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a comment about
these scriptures?
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This is my
favorite scripture passage.
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And you know the key is... if
you just read it in isolation,
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you may think:
"Well, what is this about? "
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But the key is the start
which is - depending on the
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translation - wherefore
or therefore or even so.
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Basically, it's connecting
us back to Hebrews 11.
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The chapter divisions, of
course, aren't in the original.
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They're something that
gets added centuries later
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as a convenience.
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Really this chapter
12:1-2 is the end of chapter 11:
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that great passage of
the heroes of the faith.
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And it's saying:
"What's the lesson of this? "
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"Since we are surrounded by
so great a cloud of witnesses"
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that is what
can empower us. Yes.
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To "Lay aside burdens and the
sin that so easily ensnares us"
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as one translation says
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and "run the
race set before us. "
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And then the
beautiful coda to it:
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"Looking unto Jesus: the Author
and Finisher of our faith. "
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So as a historian I love
the way that it refers back
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to the history of
the church and then says
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"These are not just
dead heroes of the past.
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They are what can
inspire us and empower us
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to live a
Christian life here and now
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looking unto Jesus, the Author
and Finisher of our faith. "
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Amen! Amen! I know you
could share some more about that
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but we have limited time. Yes.
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Dr. Santrac? I love the
phrase: "Surrounded by a cloud
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of witnesses. "
Sometimes we may feel
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abandoned and alone
in our walk with God.
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Perhaps sometimes mis-
understood by our environment.
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But knowing that so
many before us have treaded
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this same path and that
the Finisher of our faith,
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the Lord Jesus Christ,
is the Author of that faith,
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the Sustainer of that
faith, and the One who will
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give a prize at the end.
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And this a beautiful
text to introduce our talk
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about the encyclopedia
because the encyclopedia
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has stories of
these many many witnesses
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to Christ's victory.
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Indeed, if we...
It's an online work
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but it may eventually
appear as a print edition.
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And if it did, then
I think the final part
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after the last
article under the letter Z
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would say: "Therefore,
since we are surrounded by
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so great a cloud of witnesses. "
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Excellent! Excellent!
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Well you know, after being in-
volved in 3ABN for so many yrs.
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we know that
people are very curious.
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So people are wondering
where are you both from
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because you have an
accent a little different than
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the typical American accent.
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We'll start with Dr. Santrac.
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Yes. Well I was born
in an Adventist family
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and grew up in
various cities in France.
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At some point I
moved with my parents
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and two siblings to Serbia,
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the country of
origin of my parents.
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And that's where I met
my future husband Alex.
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And Alex and I... we
lived on three continents
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while pursuing our education
and while serving the church
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in various capacities
for the past almost 23 years.
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So I guess I picked
accents all over the place
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wherever I lived. So...
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Dr. Trim? Well my accent
you may detect wanders a little
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because that reflects my life.
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I was born in India where
my parents were missionaries.
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I spent my childhood and
early teenage years in Australia
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where my father was from.
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They moved to Britain
where my mother was from.
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At Adventist college in Britain
I married an American girl...
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a California girl
as the song says...
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and lived and worked
in England for many years
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but then was called by
the church to work in the US.
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So you'll hear a little
bit of Australian. You'll hear
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a little bit of British. As
I say, it wanders a little bit.
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Wanders a little bit. But
overall? We're all pilgrims -
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yes - in this
world. That's right.
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You're from the Dominican
Republic & I'm from Puerto Rico.
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Well overall, the
language of love or your passion
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for what you do for
the Lord and for us all
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to be able to understand
where our church is from
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and all the history of it.
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We thank you for that.
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Well, I'm excited about
what we're going to hear
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in a moment - yes -
but first, we have a...
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we'd like to share a
musical offering. Um-hmm.
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A musical offering.
Yes... this musical offering
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is going to be brought to us
by a mother and daughter team.
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And that is Celestine
and Farrah and they will be
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singing Fill My Cup.
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Like the woman at the well
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I was seeking
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for things
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that could not satisfy.
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And then
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I heard my Savior speaking:
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"Draw from My well
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that never shall run dry. "
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Fill my cup, Lord.
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I lift it up, Lord.
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Come and quench
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this thirsting of my soul.
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Bread of Heaven,
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fill me till I want no more.
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Fill my cup... fill it up
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and make me whole.
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There are millions in this world
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who are seeking
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for pleasures
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earthly things afford.
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But none
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can match the wondrous treasure
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that I find
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in Jesus Christ my Lord.
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So my children, if the things
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this world gave you
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leaves hungers
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that won't pass away
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my blessed Lord
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will come and save you
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if you kneel to Him
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and humbly pray.
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Fill my cup, Lord.
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I lift it up, Lord.
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Come and quench
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this thirsting of my soul.
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Bread of Heaven,
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feed me till I want no more.
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Fill my cup,
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fill it up
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and make me whole...
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fill my cup,
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fill it up
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and make me
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whole.
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Thank you so
much. A beautiful song.
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We all need the Lord
to fill our cup. Um-hmm.
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And when the Lord
fills our cup, you'll know
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that you have no need.
Much to share. That's right.
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Well we are here to talk
about the SDA Encyclopedia.
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I'm excited about this.
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And the question
is: what in the world
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is the SDA Encyclopedia?
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Well the
original SDA Encyclopedia
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was published in 1966.
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And it has been... It
was revised again in 1975
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and 1996, but it
hasn't been revised
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for a very long time.
And the General Conference
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officers, the
President, Elder Wilson,
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looked at it and said: "We need
an up-to-date encyclopedia. "
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My regular job is Director of
Archives, Statistics, & Research
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and so Elder Wilson said:
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"You're archive...
it's history and research.
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We'll task you with
creating a new encyclopedia. "
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And I think originally
he probably just thought of
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a third edition.
But as we looked at it
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we realized there was a need
for something completely new.
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And so that's why
the name has changed.
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It's the Encyclopedia
of Seventh-day Adventists
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or ESDA as we refer to it
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and that signals that
it's an entirely new work.
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Every article that was
in the old encyclopedia
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will be in the new
encyclopedia - OK -
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but the articles
have been written afresh
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and anew based on new research -
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OK - and also written by
people from around the world.
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Excellent... excellent.
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So what is the difference
between the encyclopedia
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we've had before? Right.
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So the old encyclopedia came
out initially in one volume.
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And if any of your viewers have
the SDA Bible Commentary set
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they will have it on their
shelves, red & green volumes.
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Uh-huh. The
second revised edition
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that came out in 1996
came out in two volumes
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because it had been extended.
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And that's a
brownish, sort of black version.
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Some of the people will
have that on their shelves.
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I have the old red and
green version which I inherited
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from my late father, so
that sits on my shelves.
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That was print. As
I said, the new one
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has been com...
It's still in progress -
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right - but it's
completely written afresh
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but also it's not
print... it's available online.
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Online. It lives online.
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Now eventually there
may be a print edition
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but the authoritative
text will be online.
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Why? Because it means it
can be constantly updated
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and it can be revised and
corrected. And your viewers
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can see on screen now -
right - some information about
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the ESDA... about
the number of articles.
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And one of the
great things about it
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is the number of photographs.
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We have 10,000
photographs. Wow! Marvelous!
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We love photographs!
And most of them are ones
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people will never have seen.
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And the key thing
is that it's online.
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You can see the search window
and the results of a typical
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search coming up now.
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It's very easy to search.
We can talk about that later
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and it brings out wonderful
articles and these photographs.
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You know, there's a few
photographs that every Adventist
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is familiar with. Yes.
Ones of James and Ellen White.
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Yes. Maybe John N.
Andrews and Uriah Smith.
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These are photographs that
have been supplied by families -
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OK - by institutions... for
articles about institutions.
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These are photographs that
nobody other than the families
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themselves
perhaps have ever seen.
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So they're extraordinary
images, and most articles -
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most biography's -
have got photographs.
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We're very pleased
about that. And as I say,
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10,000 photos
currently... 3,500 articles.
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We're aiming eventually
to have 7,000 articles.
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But there are 3,500 on
the website, so that's...
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that's a good chunk of material,
more than anyone can read
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in an afternoon. That's right!
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Yes indeed! So it's
possible to "surf" it
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or to search it in
a very focused way.
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But I have to say one of
the pleasures of looking at it
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is to look at the photos. Yes!
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And sometimes especially
articles about famous people
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and say: "Wow! Here's a photo
of them that I don't recognize
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because it's taken
when they were young. "
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And again, only the family
- perhaps - has seen it. Yes!
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Yes Idalia? We
have contributors -
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some family members
that supplied some pictures -
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but who else has
contributed to the ESDA?
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Yes. Well I would like to say
that this is also a new feature
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of the new encyclopedia.
The team that works
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on the encyclopedia
is an international team.
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Currently there
are over 1,500 authors
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worldwide who
contributed articles.
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And we have an editorial
team of about 50 editors -
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excellent - coming from
all the 13 world divisions,
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the General Conference
attached union mission fields,
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and of course the
General Conference.
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So it's a very diverse team
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unlike with the previous we
call it "old encyclopedia. "
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Yes. The old SDA encyclopedia
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was produced by a
relatively small team
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working at the old Review &
Herald Publishing Association
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based at the church headquarters
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produced in the
late 50's and early 60's.
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And so it really reflected
just the American church
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with a little bit of
European influence - Oh -
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because one the
team was British.
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And that's not
the church of today.
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That was the
church of the 1960's.
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It was one in which still
North America had the largest
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single
membership of any division.
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But that's not the
world church today.
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And so we wanted an
encyclopedia that would reflect
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the diversity of
the church. Wonderful!
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And so we have those
editors as Dragoslava described
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who are around the
world. Why? Because
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they know who to ask.
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They may know the one
person who has made the history
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of the church in Luzon in
the Philippines his passion
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or the one person who has
made the history of the church
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in the Dominican
Republic - yes - her passion.
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And so they can get
local people who are experts.
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And that's why we have
1,500 authors as Dragoslava said
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worldwide which means
we're getting an authentic
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account of the church's history.
Excellent! That's practically
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answers my question.
This is a MASSIVE undertaking.
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The question was: How
do you ensure that you have
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an accurate picture?
How do you? The accuracy...
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that this is what
actually, is true and factual?
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Yes. We have very strict
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quality control
measures in place.
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All articles are signed.
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They have endnotes and
sources so people can verify
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the sources of information
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and also all of our
articles are peer-reviewed
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by several peer reviewers
depending on the topic.
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For some types of articles
like for example the history
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of theology articles
which are about our beliefs
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and the way they developed
we have a special committee
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of theologians and historians
who review these articles.
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To make sure
that we get it right
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because obviously
articles on our doctrines
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have to be gotten right.
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Yes. And so that's
why we have an extra level
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of quality assurance for them.
00:24:06.21\00:24:08.68
But we also for
important articles
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church leaders also review them
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because we want this
to be faith-affirming.
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We want it to be truthful. Yes.
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And that's important to
note because we haven't always
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done things
successfully or ethically.
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There have been...
we're a human organization.
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And so we have to be
truthful and accurate
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but we also want it
to be faith-affirming.
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So all of these measures
go into it to ensure that
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it is accurate and
truthful and that it represents
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not just one part
of the church's views.
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Say the view just of
European missionaries - right -
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who went to
certain African countries.
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We want it to reflect
the local point of view
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but we also want it
to be faith-affirming.
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That's wonderful! I
like that: faith-affirming.
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You know, there are
people searching for information
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and a lot of people
are familiar with something
00:25:01.13\00:25:05.13
that starts with the
letter W: Wiki-something.
00:25:05.33\00:25:07.97
There are stories there about
the Seventh-day Adventist church
00:25:08.17\00:25:11.77
but this is a more
"get it from the source"
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information. Right. The
problem with Wikipedia...
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It's a wonderful resource
00:25:20.38\00:25:23.02
and I think everybody uses it.
00:25:23.22\00:25:24.55
But it's written by somebody
who has a particular desire
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to write on the topic. Yes.
00:25:29.12\00:25:30.46
And that means that they're not
reliable; they're not accurate.
00:25:30.49\00:25:33.66
And indeed, as Dr. Santrac
discovered when she first
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became interested
in joining the project
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often they're
notably inaccurate.
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You might want to
share about your experience.
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Yes. Well actually that
was my daughter's experience
00:25:47.24\00:25:50.08
who wanted to do a research
project for her high school
00:25:50.28\00:25:54.48
class. They were asked
to choose an American group
00:25:54.68\00:25:58.02
and write a history, etc.
00:25:58.22\00:26:01.06
So she said: "Well,
this is a good chance to
00:26:01.26\00:26:03.49
present to my class and
my teachers something about
00:26:03.69\00:26:06.49
our church. " And the teacher
asked that the research is
00:26:06.70\00:26:11.00
solely based on online sources.
00:26:11.20\00:26:14.54
So when you
Google what you find.
00:26:14.74\00:26:16.60
And after some time she
came to me with a whole list.
00:26:16.81\00:26:20.08
"Mom, did you know about this? "
00:26:20.28\00:26:21.64
"How can people say
something like that? "
00:26:21.84\00:26:24.25
"This is not true! "
00:26:24.45\00:26:25.95
So all of the searches she
found it was quite discouraging.
00:26:26.15\00:26:30.12
She just abandoned the
topic and found something else.
00:26:30.32\00:26:34.16
And I am thinking: "It
is our hope that when people
00:26:34.56\00:26:37.76
Google Adventist
church or Adventist people
00:26:37.96\00:26:41.26
that the top result will come
from encyclopedia.adventist.org
00:26:41.46\00:26:47.17
so people get
reliable balance information.
00:26:47.37\00:26:51.11
Yes! That's right. Yes, because
with what's on the Internet
00:26:51.31\00:26:54.28
if somebody who has a
particular passion for it
00:26:54.48\00:26:57.71
and sometimes passions
can be distorted - yes -
00:26:57.91\00:27:00.12
and so you get
all kinds of things
00:27:00.32\00:27:04.09
as Dragoslava's
daughter discovered.
00:27:04.29\00:27:06.89
And so... But that's another
reason we want to be truthful
00:27:07.96\00:27:10.69
and accurate and
that we don't gloss over
00:27:10.89\00:27:12.96
things that maybe some people
might find a little embarrassing
00:27:13.16\00:27:17.57
or say: "Should we wash
our dirty laundry in public? "
00:27:17.77\00:27:20.44
We want this to be faith
affirming for Adventists.
00:27:20.64\00:27:24.67
But for people who are
not Seventh-day Adventists
00:27:24.87\00:27:27.24
we want them to be able to
say: "Wow! This church is...
00:27:27.44\00:27:31.45
models Christian
truthfulness and accuracy.
00:27:31.65\00:27:34.88
It's not hiding anything. "
00:27:35.08\00:27:36.79
Conspiracy.
Conspiracy... thank you.
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Yes, Idalia. "Whatever I may
have heard from certain people
00:27:39.49\00:27:42.96
about the
Seventh-day Adventist church
00:27:43.16\00:27:44.56
here it is. It's being
open; it's being honest. " Amen.
00:27:44.76\00:27:47.90
And so we see this as
benefitting both SDA's
00:27:49.30\00:27:52.80
and people who are not
Seventh-day Adventists.
00:27:53.00\00:27:55.54
And we would like everybody
to be able to get that accurate,
00:27:55.74\00:28:00.38
truthful, and balanced - the
word you used earlier, John -
00:28:00.58\00:28:03.85
balanced information.
Wonderful! This is wonderful
00:28:04.05\00:28:06.41
because there is so
much information out there
00:28:06.61\00:28:10.19
but when you have a
reliable source of information
00:28:10.39\00:28:15.19
go to the reliable
source of information.
00:28:15.39\00:28:17.03
That's right. Go to
the SDA Encyclopedia.
00:28:17.23\00:28:19.46
That's right. Yes. Well,
it's been live for 2 years now,
00:28:19.66\00:28:23.06
right? How has
the response been?
00:28:23.26\00:28:25.13
Well, I say that the readers
have been quite enthusiastic.
00:28:26.27\00:28:31.47
People contact us
and they want to share
00:28:32.61\00:28:35.58
the photographs they
have... the materials:
00:28:35.78\00:28:38.71
placards, documents...
historical documents.
00:28:38.91\00:28:41.58
And they are excited
sometimes to discover
00:28:41.98\00:28:45.22
the biography of a
relative and they tell us:
00:28:45.42\00:28:47.79
"Oh, I've learned something
about my grand grandfather
00:28:47.99\00:28:50.63
I've never heard before. "
So it's been really reassuring
00:28:50.83\00:28:54.43
and reaffirming
of what we are doing.
00:28:54.63\00:28:56.80
Yes. We've had more
than 28,000 unique visitors
00:28:57.00\00:29:01.80
last month - wonderful!
which is... we still want
00:29:02.00\00:29:05.41
more people to know
about the encyclopedia.
00:29:05.61\00:29:08.08
Yes. That's one reason
we're glad to be with you:
00:29:08.28\00:29:11.81
to get the word out; let
more people know about it.
00:29:12.01\00:29:16.45
As Dragoslava said,
we've had a good response
00:29:17.42\00:29:20.16
not only in an increase in
the number of unique visitors
00:29:20.36\00:29:23.43
each month. And the
website by the way is:
00:29:23.63\00:29:25.96
Yes. Um-hmm. So that's
quite easy to remember.
00:29:29.13\00:29:31.13
We've been glad to see
00:29:35.10\00:29:37.17
the number of
visitors each month increasing
00:29:37.37\00:29:39.57
but as Dragoslava says
00:29:39.77\00:29:41.11
we've also had
feedback from readers.
00:29:41.34\00:29:43.48
How many
photographs did we start with?
00:29:43.68\00:29:45.35
Was it 6,000 or 7,000?
00:29:45.55\00:29:46.98
When we
launched the encyclopedia
00:29:47.18\00:29:49.22
the exact number is 3,700.
00:29:49.42\00:29:52.42
Photos? So you see we've
increased by almost three times
00:29:52.62\00:29:55.62
that number. And that's
one of the things that people
00:29:55.82\00:29:57.89
who read articles say:
"Would you like photos? "
00:29:58.09\00:30:01.46
"I have photographs of this
person or of this institution
00:30:01.66\00:30:05.80
in its early days. " Yes.
And so we've had the photographs
00:30:06.00\00:30:08.44
have just come flooding in.
We've also had other feedback.
00:30:08.64\00:30:11.54
And one of the things that
people have noted is how they
00:30:11.74\00:30:13.98
like the fact that
the story is told...
00:30:14.18\00:30:18.61
I'm thinking of the
church now in parts of Africa
00:30:18.81\00:30:21.25
and Latin America...
that the story is being told
00:30:21.45\00:30:23.95
from their point of
view. Yes. Oh... very good.
00:30:24.15\00:30:27.06
In the past, the story would
always be about the European
00:30:27.26\00:30:29.86
or American
missionaries who came.
00:30:30.06\00:30:31.83
Now missionaries are wonderful.
As I said, my parents are
00:30:32.03\00:30:34.86
missionaries. Because
I'm British I'm actually
00:30:35.06\00:30:37.97
a missionary to
America you might say. Yes!
00:30:38.17\00:30:40.07
This is true! This is true!
00:30:40.27\00:30:41.64
So missionaries are
wonderful and indeed
00:30:42.64\00:30:45.27
Adventists around the
world don't wish to forget
00:30:45.47\00:30:48.64
missionaries. On the
contrary, in parts of Africa
00:30:48.84\00:30:51.91
for example they are
naming new institutions
00:30:52.11\00:30:55.25
after early missionaries
of more than 100 years ago.
00:30:55.45\00:30:57.89
So they want to honor them.
But though the Adventist message
00:30:58.09\00:31:02.89
wouldn't have taken off
without the missionaries
00:31:03.09\00:31:05.29
the story is bigger
than the missionaries
00:31:05.49\00:31:07.76
because the missionaries
only planted the seed.
00:31:07.96\00:31:10.07
Yes! In every part of the
world it was local people -
00:31:10.27\00:31:13.34
local colporteurs and
literature evangelists
00:31:13.54\00:31:15.67
and local pastors - who
were inspired that they went out
00:31:15.87\00:31:19.67
and did the bulk of
the work. That's right.
00:31:19.87\00:31:21.48
And so that's where we come
to one of the satisfying things.
00:31:21.68\00:31:25.55
As I said, we wanted an
encyclopedia that would reflect
00:31:25.75\00:31:28.25
today's church. Yes.
00:31:28.45\00:31:31.82
And you know the
difference is profound.
00:31:32.02\00:31:34.72
When the
encyclopedia launched in 1966
00:31:34.92\00:31:37.43
there were 1.6 million SDA's.
00:31:37.63\00:31:40.50
In 2015 when it launched
00:31:40.90\00:31:43.40
there were 1.2 million
baptisms. Praise the Lord!
00:31:43.60\00:31:47.27
And there were 19.2 million mem-
bers which is 12 times as many
00:31:47.47\00:31:52.37
as in 1966. The numbers of
unions and conferences increased
00:31:52.57\00:31:56.85
by almost 100
percent... it almost doubled.
00:31:57.05\00:31:59.78
The number of medical instit-
tutions since 1970 has increased
00:32:00.95\00:32:06.22
by 500%.
00:32:06.42\00:32:07.96
Wow! So the church is
just... it's much bigger.
00:32:08.16\00:32:11.29
It's much more diverse so
there's a lot more stories
00:32:11.49\00:32:15.26
that have to be told.
00:32:15.46\00:32:16.80
And that's what
we're trying to do
00:32:16.87\00:32:19.03
and it's therefore
gratifying to hear feedback
00:32:19.23\00:32:22.70
from readers saying
that they appreciate
00:32:22.90\00:32:25.37
the story of the
church - say in Nigeria -
00:32:25.57\00:32:28.24
reflecting the contributions
that Nigerians rather than
00:32:28.44\00:32:31.38
only of the
missionaries who came.
00:32:31.58\00:32:33.68
That's right! You
know, this is a resource
00:32:33.88\00:32:35.58
that is good for new
Seventh-day Adventists
00:32:35.78\00:32:39.92
and SDAs that have
been around for many years.
00:32:40.12\00:32:42.42
I remember sharing
either in Sabbath School
00:32:42.62\00:32:45.26
or just talking to people
00:32:45.46\00:32:47.76
and I mentioned something about
the history of the SDA church
00:32:47.96\00:32:50.07
and they just: "I
didn't know that! "
00:32:50.27\00:32:51.97
And in the Encyclopedia of
SDAs you can find information
00:32:52.17\00:32:56.91
that is just marvelous and
helps to affirm your faith.
00:32:57.11\00:33:02.28
You were going to
say something? Yes.
00:33:02.48\00:33:04.55
I just wanted to briefly mention
00:33:04.75\00:33:06.82
that also we have readers
who contact us with some changes
00:33:07.02\00:33:11.72
or corrections. OK... I
was going to ask about that.
00:33:11.92\00:33:14.09
And we welcome those as well.
00:33:14.29\00:33:15.62
And having an online
format it is very easy
00:33:15.72\00:33:19.89
for us to make edits and changes
00:33:20.10\00:33:22.93
and maybe
sometimes add new information
00:33:23.13\00:33:25.33
we were not aware of.
00:33:25.53\00:33:27.07
So that's the beauty
of an online format. Yes!
00:33:27.27\00:33:30.37
We didn't have to wait until
all 7,000 articles were done.
00:33:30.77\00:33:34.71
We could launch, and
simply by launching of course
00:33:34.91\00:33:38.05
provide impetus for
more people to get involved.
00:33:38.25\00:33:40.95
And some of those
articles that are on the list
00:33:41.15\00:33:43.49
inspired some people
to volunteer to write them
00:33:43.69\00:33:46.62
or to e-mail us and say:
"I note that you don't have
00:33:46.82\00:33:50.43
even an article
planned on this figure.
00:33:50.63\00:33:53.03
I think he or she should
be in the encyclopedia. "
00:33:53.23\00:33:55.23
Sometimes you look
at it and say: "Well,
00:33:55.43\00:33:57.47
they're important in your
life but maybe they're not quite
00:33:57.67\00:34:00.20
worthy of an
article. " An article. Yes.
00:34:00.40\00:34:03.00
But other times we say: "Yes,
this person had a fascinating
00:34:03.20\00:34:06.34
life... a really
wonderful example of faith.
00:34:06.54\00:34:11.25
This person SHOULD BE
in the encyclopedia. "
00:34:11.45\00:34:13.92
So that's part of it but also
the ability to update & correct.
00:34:14.12\00:34:18.62
So we don't have to
wait 10 years or 20 years
00:34:18.82\00:34:21.82
to do a new edition.
Another edition... exactly.
00:34:22.02\00:34:24.29
Which we would
if it were in print.
00:34:24.49\00:34:25.86
Instead, we can...
because mistakes creep in.
00:34:26.06\00:34:29.00
You know, we have the
quality assurance processes
00:34:29.20\00:34:32.10
but inevitably
little errors creep in.
00:34:32.30\00:34:36.14
Sometimes there's ones that
people think are a little more
00:34:36.34\00:34:38.97
major. And we can review them
00:34:39.17\00:34:41.24
and where we say: "Yes, they're
right. This is an error. "
00:34:41.44\00:34:46.55
We can make the
correction and therefore
00:34:46.75\00:34:49.82
it's always going to be
authoritative and up-to-date
00:34:50.02\00:34:53.32
because it's
constantly being updated.
00:34:53.52\00:34:55.52
I like that. I'm really
excited for all the information
00:34:55.72\00:34:58.63
I've heard thus far, but
I think in the short time
00:34:58.83\00:35:01.73
that we have left I
think they have so many stories
00:35:01.93\00:35:05.40
to share. Please
share some stories with us.
00:35:05.60\00:35:08.40
Yes, well it's very
hard to choose I'm sure.
00:35:10.47\00:35:14.68
So perhaps we could talk
briefly about the Adventist work
00:35:14.88\00:35:18.78
in Japan? Yes, yes...
let's start with that.
00:35:18.98\00:35:21.85
It starts with Wm. Grainger.
00:35:22.05\00:35:25.49
He was the first
official missionary to Japan -
00:35:26.52\00:35:29.76
Adventist missionary to Japan.
00:35:29.96\00:35:31.69
Here is his picture.
00:35:31.89\00:35:33.83
Yes. William Grainger
was before going to Japan
00:35:34.03\00:35:39.20
for about nine year
he was the president
00:35:39.40\00:35:41.97
of Healdsburg College...
the forerunner of PUC:
00:35:42.30\00:35:45.51
Pacific Union College. OK.
00:35:45.71\00:35:47.38
And I just marvel
at God's providence.
00:35:47.58\00:35:51.41
So he was the
president for nine years
00:35:51.61\00:35:54.92
and right at the time
when he was replaced in 1894
00:35:55.12\00:35:59.45
his former student from
Japan invited him to come
00:36:00.82\00:36:05.29
to Japan and help
him spread the word. Yes.
00:36:05.49\00:36:08.23
And so the church
decided yes, this is a good time
00:36:08.50\00:36:11.27
to enter Japan.
In the late 1890s
00:36:11.47\00:36:13.80
Ellen White is in Australia
00:36:14.00\00:36:15.77
and she is now more
aware of the needs of Asia.
00:36:15.97\00:36:19.64
And so Ellen White... The
church for its early first years
00:36:19.84\00:36:23.51
we were a reform movement
within Protestantism. Um-hmm.
00:36:23.71\00:36:27.05
And from the late 1890's
- for the rest of her life
00:36:27.25\00:36:30.29
until her death - Ellen White
is saying: "No, we're more than
00:36:30.49\00:36:33.22
a reform movement among
Protestants. This message
00:36:33.42\00:36:35.96
has to go to Asia. " To
China and India she mentioned.
00:36:36.16\00:36:40.00
And what are China and India?
They are strongholds of Hinduism
00:36:40.20\00:36:43.30
of Islam and of
Chinese traditional religions.
00:36:43.50\00:36:45.97
So she's saying:
"We have to reach people
00:36:46.17\00:36:48.10
of other religions. " So
Japan is one of the countries
00:36:48.30\00:36:51.14
that Ellen White had mentioned.
And so this opportunity comes
00:36:51.34\00:36:54.14
and Grainger was in middle age.
00:36:54.51\00:36:56.18
Had never lived
outside California
00:36:56.38\00:36:58.48
but he accepts the call.
00:36:58.68\00:37:01.55
Yes, and his
student Teruhiko Okoshira
00:37:01.75\00:37:05.12
we have his photograph as well.
00:37:05.32\00:37:07.46
He came from a
wealthy Japanese family.
00:37:07.66\00:37:10.39
His parents sent him to
California to learn English
00:37:10.59\00:37:14.60
and business. And in California
00:37:14.80\00:37:17.30
he was invited to
attend a Camp Meeting
00:37:17.50\00:37:22.17
that was held by some
people from Healdsburg College.
00:37:22.37\00:37:25.64
That's where he
met Professor Grainger
00:37:25.84\00:37:28.24
who invited him to study
at the Adventist college.
00:37:28.44\00:37:31.95
He got excited, and the
two of them go back to Japan
00:37:32.15\00:37:35.58
and there they open Shiba
Japanese-English Bible School.
00:37:35.78\00:37:39.92
So that was the way God works.
00:37:40.12\00:37:43.02
Yet William Grainger
also went with his wife.
00:37:43.22\00:37:45.36
Exactly. Often when we tell
the stories of the missionaries
00:37:45.56\00:37:50.00
we tell just the story
of one person: the man.
00:37:50.20\00:37:52.73
And very often they had family.
00:37:52.93\00:37:54.94
They had children of
missionaries as well.
00:37:55.14\00:37:56.91
So in the
encyclopedia we try to bring out
00:37:57.11\00:37:59.24
and give details of the families
not just of the subject.
00:37:59.44\00:38:01.88
Well, I call that,
Sir, divine appointment.
00:38:02.08\00:38:05.58
Exactly! And we
actually have a photo
00:38:05.78\00:38:09.25
of Okoshira and his wife.
Because she also contributed
00:38:09.45\00:38:14.62
to the mission work in Japan.
00:38:14.82\00:38:17.19
And among the first students
of that Japanese-English Bible
00:38:17.39\00:38:21.43
School were two military men
00:38:21.63\00:38:24.17
who came to learn English
because of their profession
00:38:24.37\00:38:29.60
but then they
accepted the Adventist faith.
00:38:29.80\00:38:33.24
It was Hide
Kuniya & Dr. Kawasaki
00:38:33.44\00:38:38.55
who got baptized, and
that was the first official
00:38:38.75\00:38:42.55
Adventist
baptism in Japan in 1897.
00:38:42.75\00:38:46.89
Now maybe we can see
the photo of Kuniya as well.
00:38:47.09\00:38:51.43
The military? The military, yes.
00:38:52.73\00:38:55.23
And people can go to
encyclopedia.adventist.org
00:38:55.43\00:38:58.97
and see all the photos.
00:38:59.17\00:39:01.27
But where the story
becomes very I would say
00:39:01.47\00:39:06.54
inspirational and maybe even sad
00:39:06.74\00:39:09.88
is that Wm. Grainger died only
three yrs. after being in Japan.
00:39:10.08\00:39:15.15
He was struck by a sudden
illness and died within weeks.
00:39:15.35\00:39:18.75
But now his students:
Okoshira, Kuniya, and Kawasaki
00:39:18.95\00:39:25.43
continued the work...
the medical missionary work.
00:39:25.63\00:39:29.23
Opened the
sanitarium... so many things.
00:39:29.43\00:39:33.00
An example again is the
missionary comes but who takes
00:39:33.20\00:39:34.64
the missionary backs them
up, and who makes the work grow
00:39:34.84\00:39:38.61
is local people. That's right!
00:39:38.81\00:39:40.21
You plant the
seed and you nurture.
00:39:40.41\00:39:43.51
OK! More stories.
There are stories of history.
00:39:43.71\00:39:49.58
Do you have maybe
a more recent story
00:39:49.78\00:39:52.32
that are included
in the encyclopedia
00:39:52.52\00:39:54.36
that you would like to share?
00:39:54.56\00:39:55.89
Why don't you
talk about Brian Dunn?
00:39:56.26\00:39:58.09
Yes. So not all
stories are happy stories,
00:39:58.29\00:40:04.27
stories of big success.
00:40:04.47\00:40:06.13
Brian Dunn's story is
the story of a missionary
00:40:06.33\00:40:10.64
who very young... We have
a photo of him with his wife.
00:40:10.84\00:40:13.51
Brian and his wife Valme.
Her name was Valme... yes.
00:40:13.71\00:40:18.65
He was only 25 years old
when with his wife in 1965,
00:40:18.85\00:40:24.85
November 1965, they
went to the Solomon Islands.
00:40:25.05\00:40:29.49
They were missionary
nurses. They were Australians
00:40:29.69\00:40:31.56
and they went as
nurses as Dragoslava said.
00:40:31.76\00:40:34.43
Yes. And only after a month
00:40:34.63\00:40:37.20
he was speared on his doorstep.
Oh no! Local islanders.
00:40:37.60\00:40:42.37
Local islanders, yes.
00:40:42.57\00:40:44.34
Wow! So the point of the
spear protruded from his chest
00:40:44.54\00:40:48.88
and the back of the
spear from his back.
00:40:49.08\00:40:51.61
Wow! It took them several days
00:40:51.81\00:40:53.55
to get him to the
nearest Adventist hospital.
00:40:53.75\00:40:58.09
But he lived only a
few days and he died.
00:40:58.29\00:41:01.92
Here is his tomb... memorial.
00:41:02.12\00:41:06.70
Yes, but his example: although
he spent less than a month
00:41:06.90\00:41:10.50
in the mission field his
example actually inspired
00:41:10.70\00:41:14.24
many more people to come
to the Solomon Islands - wow -
00:41:14.40\00:41:17.97
and continue the mission work.
00:41:18.17\00:41:19.67
What's amazing to
me is that his wife
00:41:19.87\00:41:22.58
returned to the mission
field only after a few months
00:41:22.78\00:41:25.91
and she worked as a
nurse at a leper colony in PNG.
00:41:26.11\00:41:31.02
Wow! Amazing. Yeah, some people
would be shattered by that
00:41:31.42\00:41:35.89
but she's: "No... I'm
committed to missionary work. "
00:41:36.09\00:41:37.96
And so she went back
into the mission field.
00:41:38.16\00:41:40.20
And I can tell you
as a boy in Australia
00:41:40.40\00:41:42.43
his story was told.
And the moral of the story
00:41:42.63\00:41:47.04
as it were was to say:
00:41:47.24\00:41:49.24
"He has died; who's
going to succeed him?
00:41:50.54\00:41:53.31
Who's going to
replace him? " Right.
00:41:53.51\00:41:55.01
And that's very often
what comes out of stories...
00:41:55.21\00:41:57.81
about the biographies of mis-
sionaries in the encyclopedia.
00:41:58.01\00:42:01.18
Because a lot of them do perish.
They pass away very quickly
00:42:01.38\00:42:05.29
because they're going to places
that have unusual diseases
00:42:05.49\00:42:08.82
for which no cures were known.
00:42:09.02\00:42:10.46
We're talking about
the late 19th century
00:42:10.66\00:42:12.96
and early 20th century.
00:42:13.16\00:42:14.50
But when they die they
ask for the message to go back
00:42:14.53\00:42:19.17
"Who is going to pick up the
flag that I have laid down? "
00:42:19.37\00:42:22.90
Take the torch. That's right.
Exactly: take the torch. Yes!
00:42:23.10\00:42:25.44
"I will go. " Somebody
has to say: "I will go! "
00:42:25.64\00:42:28.98
It's the Spirit of God
that stirs people's hearts
00:42:29.18\00:42:32.38
not to be afraid but to
go and continue the work.
00:42:32.58\00:42:36.52
The chosen, the called...
and God equips the called.
00:42:36.72\00:42:39.55
Well... Yes...
It's not only stories of
00:42:39.75\00:42:43.59
missionaries in
the far-flung world.
00:42:43.79\00:42:47.10
There are also stories -
biographies - of individuals
00:42:47.30\00:42:50.40
who have been
important in North America.
00:42:50.60\00:42:52.23
And of people who... they
don't make a huge sacrifice
00:42:52.83\00:42:58.07
as in going to another country
or laying down their life
00:42:58.27\00:43:00.68
but they do commit their life
to amazing careers of service.
00:43:01.48\00:43:07.42
And one of them
is E. E. Cleveland.
00:43:07.88\00:43:09.78
We've got a photograph of him.
00:43:10.19\00:43:12.35
E. E. Cleveland... yes!
00:43:12.55\00:43:14.99
Many of your viewers
will be familiar with him.
00:43:15.19\00:43:17.36
One of the most famous Adventist
evangelists and that photo is
00:43:17.56\00:43:21.06
probably one that most haven't
seen. Many of your viewers
00:43:21.26\00:43:23.90
will remember him
when he was older.
00:43:24.10\00:43:25.70
I have never seen
that photo until today.
00:43:25.90\00:43:27.64
But this is E. E. Cleveland
when he was in his prime,
00:43:28.04\00:43:31.21
when he was starting to launch
the series of evangelistic
00:43:31.41\00:43:35.11
campaigns that really
transformed the African-American
00:43:35.31\00:43:39.05
SDA church. And
beyond African-Americans
00:43:39.25\00:43:41.65
but particularly brought in
thousands of African-Americans.
00:43:41.85\00:43:45.69
And so the North American church
today in which African-Americans
00:43:45.89\00:43:50.96
are extremely important
00:43:51.16\00:43:52.93
really only dates back
to the 1940s and 1950s.
00:43:53.13\00:43:56.36
African-Americans
were a small minority
00:43:57.47\00:43:59.97
in the No.
American church until then.
00:44:00.17\00:44:02.10
And it's the
preaching of E. E. Cleveland.
00:44:02.30\00:44:04.64
We have a photo in fact of one
of his evangelistic series. OK.
00:44:04.84\00:44:09.71
Tents? Some may
even just be able to see
00:44:09.91\00:44:14.12
the sign says
BIG TENT. Big tent.
00:44:14.32\00:44:16.65
THE BIG TENT... exactly.
00:44:16.85\00:44:18.32
And so this is one
of his first missions.
00:44:18.52\00:44:20.92
You can see the chairs are
packed very close together.
00:44:21.12\00:44:24.26
Hopefully your
viewers will see that.
00:44:24.46\00:44:25.99
And so he preached in big tents;
00:44:26.19\00:44:28.26
he preached in halls;
he preached in stadiums
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and just had a transformative
effect on the North American
00:44:32.17\00:44:36.07
Church and of course
inspired many, probably hundreds
00:44:36.27\00:44:39.64
of young men to become pastors
and think: "I, too, can be
00:44:39.84\00:44:43.01
an evangelist. I can
preach an evangelistic sermon
00:44:43.21\00:44:46.41
and make a difference. "
00:44:46.61\00:44:48.58
So there's information about
E. E. Cleveland and many of the
00:44:48.78\00:44:52.42
well known and I'm
going to say unknown
00:44:52.62\00:44:55.46
Adventists that have contrib-
uted in some way or another
00:44:55.66\00:44:59.76
in the history of the
Seventh-day Adventists.
00:44:59.96\00:45:01.96
That's exactly right.
And what may be interesting
00:45:02.16\00:45:04.33
to you, John and
Idalia, is that we also have
00:45:04.53\00:45:06.77
articles on people who
were pioneers of television.
00:45:06.97\00:45:09.50
Wonderful! So
for example, we have
00:45:09.70\00:45:11.74
an article on Charles
D. Brooks: C. D. Brooks.
00:45:11.94\00:45:14.64
Yes! Also a famous
African-American evangelist
00:45:14.84\00:45:18.41
here he is actually
preaching an evangelistic sermon
00:45:18.61\00:45:21.65
in his youth. Again,
some may remember him
00:45:21.85\00:45:24.02
when he was older. Um-hmm.
00:45:24.22\00:45:25.65
A powerful
evangelistic preacher - YES!
00:45:25.85\00:45:28.82
who conducted evangelistic
campaigns around the world,
00:45:29.02\00:45:31.96
even in Cairo in the 1960s.
00:45:32.16\00:45:34.26
Today that's impossible
to imagine an evangelistic
00:45:34.56\00:45:36.70
series in Cairo BUT... he
did it. He did it back then.
00:45:36.90\00:45:41.30
And then of course he
moved into television.
00:45:41.50\00:45:44.07
Um-hmm. And the image that
we can put on the screen now
00:45:44.27\00:45:48.81
is of course he pioneered
the Breath of Life ministry.
00:45:49.01\00:45:52.71
Yes... I remember that picture.
And Breath of Life of course
00:45:52.91\00:45:55.55
was one of pioneering
Adventist television ministries.
00:45:55.75\00:45:58.45
Um-hmm. And he reached
many thousands more people
00:45:58.65\00:46:01.52
through that.
Passed away recently.
00:46:01.72\00:46:03.63
And we're very happy to have
a wonderful biography of him
00:46:03.83\00:46:06.93
on the encyclopedia.
I'm sure you have stories
00:46:07.13\00:46:09.13
of George Vandeman and
00:46:09.33\00:46:11.33
also, the, what's the name?
00:46:11.53\00:46:15.20
I forget his name, for now, but
he did the... I forgot the name
00:46:15.40\00:46:20.04
of that series. One of the early
Adventist programs as well.
00:46:20.24\00:46:24.45
We've just commissioned
an article on Walter Arties
00:46:24.65\00:46:27.22
who has just passed away.
00:46:27.42\00:46:30.79
I should have said one of
our rules for the encyclopedia
00:46:30.99\00:46:33.96
is we don't have any
articles on living people.
00:46:34.16\00:46:36.39
OK. For various reasons but
partly for you need a little...
00:46:36.59\00:46:41.06
you need a
little detachment. Yes.
00:46:41.26\00:46:42.66
And so we didn't
have one on Walter Arties,
00:46:43.06\00:46:46.47
but he has now passed away
00:46:46.67\00:46:48.00
so we have just
commissioned an article on him.
00:46:48.04\00:46:49.94
Of course another pioneer of
TV ministry was Faith for Today.
00:46:50.14\00:46:53.78
So that will be coming; that
will be added to the website.
00:46:53.98\00:46:58.11
That's the beauty
of it being digital!
00:46:58.31\00:47:00.45
That's right! You can
keep adding and updating it.
00:47:00.65\00:47:02.55
Well, you know I
like a printed book
00:47:02.75\00:47:05.35
that you can hold,
but there's also value in
00:47:06.12\00:47:08.72
the digital version,
because I can't see a video
00:47:08.92\00:47:11.59
in a book. You have videos also.
00:47:11.79\00:47:15.33
We do! And we hope
that we will actually
00:47:15.53\00:47:18.23
have a printed version
one day of the encyclopedia
00:47:18.43\00:47:21.74
or at least some volume.
But as you mentioned the videos
00:47:21.94\00:47:24.74
we are so very blessed to
have video footage of some
00:47:24.94\00:47:28.24
our missionaries. And
perhaps now we can show
00:47:28.44\00:47:32.01
the video of
Jessie and Leo Halliwell,
00:47:32.21\00:47:36.35
the American
missionaries in South America.
00:47:36.55\00:47:39.42
Famously they had mission boats
which they took up the Amazon.
00:47:39.62\00:47:42.72
It would take them months to
go from the mouth of the Amazon
00:47:42.92\00:47:46.76
into the depths because
it was thousands of miles.
00:47:46.96\00:47:50.47
They would go up
the little tributaries.
00:47:50.67\00:47:52.20
They would stop and they would
do medical work for the people
00:47:52.40\00:47:55.27
who needed it.
Millions of people who depended
00:47:55.47\00:47:59.54
actually on them
because there were no hospitals.
00:47:59.74\00:48:02.51
The medical care in
the Amazon region of Brazil
00:48:02.71\00:48:05.45
was the Adventist
church's mission boats.
00:48:05.65\00:48:07.95
Wow! That's fantastic!
00:48:08.35\00:48:09.82
You know, I
mentioned a written book.
00:48:10.02\00:48:11.99
Like I said, I like to
look. But do you have the
00:48:12.19\00:48:15.06
capability of
searching online? Yes.
00:48:15.26\00:48:17.66
You put in key words and
you find a list of articles
00:48:17.86\00:48:22.40
and things you can read.
So this is... Would you say
00:48:22.60\00:48:25.73
it's easy to use? It's
VERY easy to use I would say.
00:48:25.93\00:48:29.24
Very straightforward.
When you open the website
00:48:29.44\00:48:33.88
it's very clear what
you need to do step by step.
00:48:34.08\00:48:36.78
There's a big search window on
the front page of the website.
00:48:36.98\00:48:40.68
And you put in a term. If
you put in a name, for example,
00:48:40.88\00:48:44.85
it will bring up at the
top any article that exists
00:48:45.05\00:48:48.12
with that name. But
then it will bring up
00:48:48.32\00:48:50.46
any article that has
that name in it. Excellent!
00:48:50.66\00:48:53.56
So you can start to get
some contextual information.
00:48:53.76\00:48:56.87
If there isn't an
article yet then you'll find
00:48:57.07\00:49:00.00
at the bottom a list of articles
that have been commissioned
00:49:00.20\00:49:03.07
that are still in the
process of being written. OK!
00:49:03.27\00:49:05.84
And people are
like: What is the website?
00:49:06.04\00:49:08.78
We multitask! We're watching
00:49:12.01\00:49:13.95
but we want to go to the
website at the same time.
00:49:14.15\00:49:16.48
Wonderful! Please do that.
00:49:16.69\00:49:18.09
I hope people are on
their phones right now
00:49:18.29\00:49:20.52
because the website is designed
to be easily used on phones,
00:49:20.72\00:49:24.69
on tablets, as well as websites
00:49:24.89\00:49:26.73
because we know that
today the majority of viewers
00:49:26.93\00:49:29.43
readers probably won't go on
their laptop or their desktop
00:49:29.63\00:49:32.73
computers. They'll go
on a tablet or on a phone.
00:49:32.93\00:49:35.20
And Slava, just tell
them a little bit how they can
00:49:35.40\00:49:38.01
filter their search.
Yes. So people can also use
00:49:38.21\00:49:40.91
the advanced search option
00:49:41.11\00:49:42.84
where they can browse articles
00:49:43.04\00:49:44.88
by division or country
00:49:45.08\00:49:47.25
or even article category.
00:49:47.45\00:49:49.15
For example,
you want to find out
00:49:49.35\00:49:50.69
everything about medical
missionaries in China only.
00:49:50.89\00:49:54.86
There is an easy way to do that.
00:49:55.06\00:49:56.86
Or in Inter-America and so on.
00:49:57.06\00:49:59.76
And this is what a printed
book can't allow you to do.
00:50:00.16\00:50:03.16
That's right. John,
I'm an old-fashioned guy.
00:50:03.37\00:50:05.60
I'm a historian...
I love printed books.
00:50:05.80\00:50:07.44
But there's just so much extra
capability in this website.
00:50:07.64\00:50:11.27
That's right. And
so when we looked at it
00:50:11.47\00:50:15.24
this is why we recommended
to Elder Wilson it should be
00:50:15.44\00:50:17.91
an online website. Excellent!
And that's the way to go.
00:50:18.11\00:50:20.62
I know the time is running
out but I just need to mention
00:50:20.82\00:50:25.02
this since this is an
international program.
00:50:25.22\00:50:28.42
People may wonder: "Oh,
are articles only in English?
00:50:28.62\00:50:32.09
What for people who
are not English speaking? "
00:50:32.29\00:50:35.06
We are very happy to say
that we have made some progress
00:50:35.26\00:50:38.93
with this and already
have articles available
00:50:39.13\00:50:41.64
in Portuguese, Spanish,
Russian, and Korean. Excellent!
00:50:41.84\00:50:45.27
Marvelous! And we
depend on qualified
00:50:45.54\00:50:48.04
volunteers to
help us with this work.
00:50:48.24\00:50:51.25
So if anybody wants to
help us translate, e-mail us at:
00:50:51.45\00:50:54.68
We welcome new authors;
we welcome new translators;
00:51:03.53\00:51:06.33
we welcome anyone
who wants to help us.
00:51:06.53\00:51:08.16
Praise the Lord!
Fantastic! You know, marvelous!
00:51:08.36\00:51:11.20
We hope that you are ready
to jot down the information
00:51:11.60\00:51:14.54
so that you can
find out where to go
00:51:14.94\00:51:18.37
or if you are
interested in contributing
00:51:18.57\00:51:20.68
we are also going to
share contact information.
00:51:20.88\00:51:23.04
So after you see
the contact information
00:51:23.24\00:51:26.11
you will hear news from 3ABN
00:51:26.31\00:51:27.65
and then we will be back in
just a moment. We'll see you.
00:51:27.68\00:51:30.82