I want to spend my life
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mending broken people.
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I want to spend my life
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removing pain.
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Lord, let my words
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heal a heart that hurts.
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I want to spend my life
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mending broken people...
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I want to spend my life
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mending broken people.
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Hello and welcome to 3ABN Today.
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My name is John
Dinzey and my wife Idalia
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is with me. And we are excited
about this particular program
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because it is a program
about witnessing, Idalia.
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That's right, and
we're all called to "Go ye. "
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Right? So I will go.
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And will you join us?
Will you say: "I will go"
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and put into practice
different ways of witnessing
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to those around
you in your community?
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Even your own family
at times, right? Um-hmm.
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That's right. We
have a guest that is
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an active person in many ways.
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So you're going to find
out about this because he is
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the co-founder of F5 Challenge
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and also the
co-founder of ARME Bible Camp.
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Welcome, Dr. Calvin Kim.
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Thank you so much. Great
to be here with you guys.
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Thank you so much.
And you are Dr. because
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you are in what area of
medicine? I practice dentistry
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in Olympia, Washington.
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Excellent! Excellent!
Well we're going to find out
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a little bit more about Calvin
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and also about the F5 Challenge.
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That sounds very interesting:
F5 Challenge. Um-hmm.
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I know most
people like a challenge.
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And so we encourage
you to listen carefully
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and also you may want
to jot down information
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because you may be
interested in participating
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in this way of reaching out
to people with the Word of God,
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reaching out to
people with the gospel.
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Um-hmm. That's right.
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Many times we hear of
people that want to do something
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for Jesus. "What
can I do? I'm so old
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or I'm so limited. "
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But you know, the Lord
gives different opportunities
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and sometimes we need
to think outside the box.
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Sometimes what
works with one community
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doesn't work for another.
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So there is a
community of people
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that I cannot reach
but because of your skills
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and your God-given
talents you can reach.
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So we're going to learn
about how to put into practice
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this gift for soul-winning.
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And before we do all of that
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we're going to go
to the Lord in prayer.
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And we want to ask
you to remember to pray
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for the requests, and
we encourage you to join
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3ABN Prayer Warrior team.
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We have prayer warriors in
practically... in every country
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in the world. Amen! And
so we just encourage you
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to participate in
ministry by praying for people.
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And when you pray for
others you are also blessed.
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But for now we
encourage you to join us
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as we go to the Lord in prayer.
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Our loving heavenly Father,
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we thank you, Lord, for Your
great mercy and Your kindness.
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We thank you, Lord, that we
can call upon You at any time
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of the day. There's no
time when the doors are closed
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or You are out to
lunch. We thank you, Lord,
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that You are always available.
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And we pray that as we are
participating in this program
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You will bless us
with Your Holy Spirit.
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Bless Calvin with a message
that You know Your children
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need to hear. We also ask for
You to consider every request
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that has come to 3ABN.
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You know every
person; You know every need.
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And no need is too
small, no need is too great.
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And we ask You,
Lord, to bring to people
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that which they need most.
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There are people
with financial challenges.
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People that are facing illnesses
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and they need
strength and they need healing.
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We pray, Lord, that You will
provide strength and healing.
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Some are ready for healing
now; some may need to wait.
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So we pray that You
will help them to continue
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looking unto Jesus, the Author
and Finisher of our faith.
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And we ask You, heavenly
Father, to be with all those
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that are praying
for their loved ones.
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Some of them are out in
the world in great danger.
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We ask for Your holy
angels and Your Holy Spirit to
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reach out to them, protect them,
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but for Your Holy Spirit
to draw them back to Jesus.
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We ask for a blessing for
all that are listening to this
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program. And we ask for
all these things in the holy
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and blessed name of Jesus. Amen.
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Amen. Amen.
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Well, we'd like to read a Bible
scripture for you at this time.
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And Idalia, if you will help us
with the scripture reading. Yes.
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III John 1:2 says: "Beloved,
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I pray that you may
prosper in all things
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and be in health just
as your soul prospers. "
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Amen. Well this is
the disciple/apostle John
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writing a letter
with a wonderful message.
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And Calvin, what would you like
to share about this particular
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verse... why it appeals to you.
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You know, I love it that...
we hear God's heart speaking
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to us: He wants
to see us prospering.
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A synonym for this is to thrive.
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Yes. And He equates it
right there with our spiritual
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wellbeing that He wants
us to be in good health.
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You know, years ago I really
suffered with health problems
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at a young age, and it was
the hardest year of my life.
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But looking back it was
probably the greatest blessing
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because I learned a valuable
lesson that a lot of people
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don't learn
until later on in life
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and how valuable our health is.
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And the reason why
is for that one year
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my wife was like a
single mother that year.
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I was checked out. I was con-
sumed with my health problems.
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One of my favorite
quotes goes like this:
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"He who has his health
has 1,000 dreams or goals.
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He who does not have his health
has only one dream or goal
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and that's focusing on
trying to get better. "
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And so because of that
that has really lended itself
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to me being very
passionate about health
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and I see how it correlates
with our spiritual life.
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Amen; amen. Well, we
want to know a little bit more
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about F5 Challenge.
And this is going to be
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very very interesting...
impacting as well. Um-hmm.
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And also, young
people - really everybody -
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that's right! everybody
needs to pay close attention.
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But before we get
into that we do have a song
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that we'd like
to share with you.
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An inspiring song. Idalia,
can you help us with that?
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We're going to have an
instrumental interpretation
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by Jaime Jorge.
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And this is entitled El-Shaddai.
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OK... if you
clap you have to sing.
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El-Shaddai, El-Shaddai,
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El-elyon na Adonai,
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Age to age You're still the same
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by the power of the name.
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El-Shaddai, El-Shaddai,
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Erkamka na Adonai
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We will praise and lift You high
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El-Shaddai.
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Through Your love
and through the ram
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You saved the son of Abraham.
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And by the power of Your hand
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turned the sea into dry land.
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To the outcast on her knees
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You were the
God who really sees.
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And by Your might You
set Your children free.
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El-Shaddai, El-Shaddai,
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El-Elyon na Adonai
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Age to age You're still the same
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by the power of the name.
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El-Shaddai, El-Shaddai,
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Erkamka na Adonai
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We will praise and lift You high
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El-Shaddai.
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Through the
years You made it clear
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that the time
of Christ was near.
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Though the people failed to see
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what Messiah ought to be.
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And though Your
Word contained the plan
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they just could not understand.
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Your most awesome work was done
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through the frailty of Your Son.
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El-Shaddai, El-Shaddai,
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El-Elyon na Adonai
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Age to age You're still the same
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by the power of the name.
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El-Shaddai, El-Shaddai,
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Erkamka na Adonai
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We will praise and lift You high
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El-Shaddai...
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We will praise and lift You high
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El-Shaddai.
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Amen! Thank you very much.
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That's Jaime Jorge.
Loves to play the violin.
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It's an instrument
that speaks as well.
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And we encourage you to
also if you want to know more
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about Jaime Jorge, you can
find him easily on Facebook.
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And he's a person that has
a wonderful testimony as well.
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I'm sure that you'll be blessed
if you invite him to participate
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in an event whether it
be an evangelistic campaign
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or just a concert
you will be blessed.
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He's got many wonderful
stories to share as well
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about the
preaching of the gospel.
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Talking about
preaching of the gospel
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we'd like to ask Calvin
what would have led you to share
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the gospel with others?
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You know, it's good to
find a lot of metaphors
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about the brevity of life.
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That life is to
fragile and fleeting.
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And as a practicing dentist
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everything that I do
in my office is temporary.
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It's provisional. Um-hmm.
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I think C. T. Studd, the
missionary to China said it best
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"Only one life...
'twill soon be past.
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Only what's done
for Christ will last. "
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And so I try to keep
that in the forefront
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so that's a guiding principle
for everything that I do.
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Let's focus on the
things that really truly matter
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in lieu of how short life is.
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Praise the Lord!
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Great message! That's right.
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I'd like to find
out: you're co-founder of
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F5 Challenge. F5? Does that mean
only 5 people can participate.
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What does F5 Challenge mean?
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Great question. If you
don't mind, I'm going to share
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with you how this
ministry got started. Please do!
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It was never intended... I
got a phone call out of the blue
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in the spring of 2016
by Pastor Ron DuPreez.
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He's a well-known Adventist.
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A pastor,
theologian, & an active runner.
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People who know him they
know how much he loves to run.
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And because I love
doing things like that
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he called me out of the
blue and he asked me if I wanted
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to run the Grand Canyon as
a fundraiser for his church.
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That's a 48-mile run
from South Rim to North Rim
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back to the South Rim.
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And when he asked me I
thought: "This sounds absolutely
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amazing and miserable
all at the same time. "
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And because I'm
into this kind of thing
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I knew it would take me about
4 months to train for this.
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Four months! Yeah,
I'm a very social person
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and I live by the motto
"Misery loves company. "
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So the idea of just me
and Pr. Ron training for this
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and doing this by
ourselves was not as exciting
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as "Let's get other
people to come in. " Right.
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So I was at a conference.
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I was helping to
organize a certain conference
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and I was
talking to the volunteers
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and I shared the idea with them.
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And I couldn't believe
how many of these young adults
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wanted to come. They didn't
want to run the Grand Canyon...
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they just wanted to
come for an adventure.
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Yes. Um-hmm. A road
trip... camp out. Yes.
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And one of them said: "We're
going to have to get in shape
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for this. " They wanted
to hike just a few miles
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of the Grand Canyon. And
that night I had an epiphany.
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I thought: You know
what? These young people
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they want an
adventure. " That's right.
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"They want connection. They want
to go out and do something. "
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Um-hmm. And so we started
brainstorming about a name.
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And we're like: "Pastor
Ron, want's fundraising? " Yes.
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"Faith is always the basis for
everything we do. That's right.
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There's going to be fitness
involved, so that's F3. "
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Um-hmm. And then you
know what we decided?
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As more people got excited
we're like: "People don't want
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to have to
fundraise to come to an event
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so let's drop the fundraising. "
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So the first F is faith.
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Fellowship,
Fitness, Fortitude, and Fun.
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Which correlates with spiritual,
emotional, physical, mental,
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and social: the five
components of human wellbeing.
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And so because we want to focus
on being complete as humans.
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So that's where the name comes
from. Excellent! I like it.
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Now I like F5 Challenge!
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Well, it's exciting that
the Lord put that in your heart
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to get other people involved.
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Whenever there's something good
we want to share with others.
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There's a
passion that drives you.
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So all of a sudden
you have all these people
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interested in attending.
I'm so glad you said that
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not everybody was there
to do the run. That's right.
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But we all want to feel
like a sense of belonging -
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if I could say that word
- belonging together. Yes.
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And yes, that misery
likes company is true!
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We will take the
challenge. But what does F5 make
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sense in ministry today?
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So that summer what we did
is we set up a Facebook group?
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We set up a free
website and a lot of it was just
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word of mouth. Yes. And
so we had people that wanted
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to actually start training
to get in shape for this
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which really was exciting
for me 'cause if I can motivate
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other people... Right. You know
sometimes when you have a goal
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it's easier to get
motivated to train.
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Yes. But there were two
things that happened that summer
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that was a real game
changer for me. Um-hmm.
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Now at that point I was the
director of a ministry called
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ARME Bible Camp. We'd
bring people together.
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It's all about the
revival work. Right.
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I met a friend of mine I
hadn't seen for many years
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and we had gone on
a mission trip before.
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She was not a
Seventh-day Adventist.
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Right. And I got her
to go hiking with us.
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On the second day of our
hike she started asking us
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about what we believe.
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And when I dropped her
off at her car - 'cause it was
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parked at my
house - she said to me:
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"I'd like to take you up on
that offer for Bible studies. "
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And that was very
exciting to me. Praise the Lord!
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All I did was
invite her to go hiking -
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I didn't invite her
to come to church - yes -
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and now she's asking
for Bible studies! Amen!
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Two people that summer
messaged me, and what they said
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is basically: "I'm not
religious... can I come? "
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Um-hmm! They wanted to
come to the Grand Canyon because
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they heard about the
adventure. Yes; right.
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So I was like:
"Wow! This is amazing. "
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We have an Adventist
get-together, and because I was
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used to organizing conferences
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it wasn't just
come and camp out.
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You know, let's
have guest speakers.
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Have Pastor Ron give
a presentation. Right.
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Let's have fellowship;
let's do all these things
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and then on Sunday would be
the big adventure day. Right.
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And so we planned
this whole weekend.
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And I was like:
"This is so unique! "
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Because being part
of ARME Bible Camp -
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which was a wonderful ex-
perience - it's really designed
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for Adventist people. Um-hmm.
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Or if you're studying the
Bible with someone - right -
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it's really not for somebody
to just invite your neighbors
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to come. The same thing
with many of our Camp Meetings
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and our conferences in
our church that are wonderful
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to attend. They're
really not designed to bring
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non-religious people. Right.
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And so anyways we
had that weekend event.
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Now a lot of people
sometimes get intimidated by
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F5 when they hear
about these big adventures.
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But I want to clarify that.
That weekend because we had
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all kinds of people coming
we set up 5 different levels
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of adventures. All
right. One for the couch potato.
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Come and hike 5-6 miles,
3 miles, whatever you want.
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The next one was about 12 miles.
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Another one was down all the
way to the river and back up.
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Thirty people
participated in the rim to rim
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which was just half
way which is 23 miles.
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Wow! And 8 people attempted
the 48-mile rim to rim to rim
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of which 2 got sick but
6 of us completed that run.
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EXCELLENT! Wow!
And when we were done
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people said: "We want more! "
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That's when we
thought: "You know what?
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Let's turn this into a ministry
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'cause we can really focus
on friendship evangelism. "
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Um-hmm. And a place
where you can actually invite
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non-Adventist people - yes -
to actually come and be a part
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of something. This is wonderful
because you have like you said
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included people that are at
different levels of fitness.
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And some just want to
do something and get out.
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Because you know
you talk about: "Well,
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you have something
for the couch potato. "
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And so there are people
that: "Yeah... I'll go. "
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Because after a while
you have to say to yourself
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"How much... how long
can you be a couch potato? "
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Eventually you'll listen
to the Holy Spirit's voice
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and get off that couch
and go out and do something.
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So this is wonderful. And
so we kind of have heard you
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already but can you tell us
what the goal... What is the
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goal? It appears to
be it's not just health.
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But also how would
you put it in a nutshell?
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The ministry is all
about friendship evangelism.
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Years ago I discovered how
powerful friendship evangelism
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is, and I wanted to
share a quick story.
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I like to join the local
running groups in my city.
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And sometimes when I go
there's always a new person
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who kind of showed up for the
first time. They don't really
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know anyone. So I like
to go towards those people.
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There was a young man, and
his name was Charlie Rocket.
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And he was a very fast runner.
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One of the things that
every runner wants to do
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is become a faster runner.
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No runner ever said: "You
know what? I'm too fast. "
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Everybody wants to be able
to run faster or run longer.
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So I said: "Charlie,
will you help me to become
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a faster runner? " Oh wow!
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And so we
quickly became friends.
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Anyways I said: "You
know we're going hiking. "
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And I invited him to go hiking
with me with my church group.
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But because of the
timing and the location
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I went on a whim and I said:
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"You know what? It'd be easier
if you came to church with me
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and then go hiking. "
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And he agreed. Oh, wonderful!
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Not too long afterward
he sent me this e-mail:
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"A dear and wonderful friend
of mine who's not even in the
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church recommended
that I confess to you
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the depression that
I can't work through.
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Training and helping people
being the encouraging coach
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is probably the only
thing that is keeping me sane.
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While I know I
can help you succeed
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I am fighting a
mental illness that admitting
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would even shame my wife.
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I can't help you if I'm not
a model for your own success.
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I want to support you so much.
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I've been bragging to my
friends how I met this wonderful
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individual whose
life I can help change.
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I think I need to
be in your church.
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Wow! Maybe I
shouldn't be telling you this.
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The suicide
helpline guy was a disaster.
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Can I confide in you
without being judged?
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I feel your church and
you might be the only ones
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that I can confide in.
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But I don't know where
to turn except the church.
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Your congregation - even for one
day - helped keep me alive. "
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Wow! "I'm sorry
to unload this on you
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because you wanted a
running buddy and have inherited
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a suicide. " He was apologizing
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and I was praising God that
God allowed me to cross paths
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with this young man who was
realizing his need for Jesus
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in his life. And so
I just share this story
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to underscore the power of
friendship evangelism. Amen!
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And so that's
what we're all about.
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Our internal motto... We
say internal because we don't
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advertise this publicly...
is fitness for witness.
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Using our fitness and our
health that God has given us
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to make
connections with other people.
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Because the thing is that when
you have something in common:
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a shared hobby or passion
or even a shared experience
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together it will
forge an instant connection.
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That's right. And I found
that having something in common
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will bypass cultural barriers -
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yes - age
barriers... social, economic,
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all the different barriers and
instantly it will form a bond.
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And so that's one
of the primary purposes
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of what F5 is all about.
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You have people coming
and they're coming because
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they want to go hiking.
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They want to go rock climbing
or some of the activities
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that we're doing or biking
or stand-up paddle boarding.
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And the thing is when they come
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you know once you are
engaging in activity you kind of
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just let down your guard. Yes.
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And I like to think of it
as a spiritual Trojan horse.
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OK. We want to disarm people
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'cause they're not coming
thinking oh we're going to start
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thumping them over the
head with a Bible. Right.
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Now they know we're a
Christian organization -
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right - which is why they'll
be like: "You know I'm not
00:21:34.72\00:21:36.79
religious but can I
come? " And we're like: "Yes!
00:21:36.99\00:21:38.83
Of course, come. " And
they come and what they find is
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"You know, these
people: they're not drinking.
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They're not gambling.
They're not doing these things
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but they're
having such a good time!
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Like who are these people? "
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And later I'll
share some testimonies
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that come out of our ministry.
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Praise the Lord! You
know, Idalia, I was...
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The first... It's like
the Lord put all this together
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the first one
that you did - Yeah -
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to let you know:
"Calvin, this is something
00:22:02.05\00:22:07.19
that transforms lives
and you need to move forward
00:22:07.39\00:22:09.66
with this. " I
mean, how many did you say
00:22:09.86\00:22:12.19
joined you on the first one?
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So it was five
months just word of mouth
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and 110 people showed
up at the Grand Canyon.
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So it was word of
mouth. There were no posters
00:22:17.97\00:22:19.93
in different
places... there were no ads.
00:22:20.14\00:22:21.70
Facebook and some little stuff
we're doing on Facebook mostly.
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Excellent! Praise the Lord!
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I'm pretty sure you're
asking yourself at home
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"How can I get involved?
" Sometimes we feel limited.
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We cannot climb
but you know what?
00:22:32.51\00:22:34.68
We can just support an
activity by providing water
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or if you have a
passion for cooking then
00:22:39.19\00:22:41.82
you can provide the meals.
And there's always a place
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for you in God's work - that's
right - so don't be discouraged.
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Be encouraged because
the Lord is giving you
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a unique opportunity
to reach out to people.
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Calvin, what do you think
draws people to your ministry
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F5 Challenge? Great question!
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You know, it's because
loneliness is an epidemic.
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People are lonely. Today
people are tied behind their
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phone screens, computer
screens, and people want
00:23:07.95\00:23:10.62
genuine
face-to-face connection. Yes!
00:23:10.82\00:23:12.95
I'll share a quick
testimony. Please do.
00:23:13.15\00:23:15.32
This former Adventist
is now fully committed
00:23:43.89\00:23:46.49
back in the church and
now active in ministry.
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I'll share one more testimony.
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"What F5 means
to me? A lifeline.
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Initially joining
F5 was a fun activity
00:23:53.19\00:23:55.40
adventure group as
I enjoy the outdoors
00:23:55.60\00:23:57.17
and this provided
a great group to join
00:23:57.37\00:23:58.83
and fun adventures with
a Christ-centered attitude.
00:23:59.03\00:24:01.10
This connected me back
to wanting and nurturing
00:24:01.50\00:24:03.61
my relationship with God
as it had waned for 20+ years.
00:24:03.81\00:24:06.91
Now these adventures have
morphed to "evangeliving. "
00:24:07.31\00:24:10.28
It's a word for
living a life of evangelism
00:24:10.48\00:24:12.91
which just brings
more joy and gratitude
00:24:13.31\00:24:15.28
as I look for ways to serve
and brings souls to Christ. "
00:24:15.48\00:24:17.85
Amen! It's just
an example of people
00:24:18.05\00:24:20.79
they're just
looking for relationships.
00:24:20.99\00:24:22.86
They're not
interested in spiritual things
00:24:23.06\00:24:24.69
and at this time it's timing.
00:24:24.89\00:24:26.23
At this time if you
start presenting and trying to
00:24:26.26\00:24:28.33
you know thump them
over the head with a Bible
00:24:28.53\00:24:29.86
they may not be interested.
But they are interested in
00:24:30.00\00:24:31.37
engaging with people,
and slowly what we do is
00:24:31.57\00:24:34.57
use this to... I
like to think of it like
00:24:34.77\00:24:37.77
a spiritual Trojan horse
00:24:37.97\00:24:39.57
to disarm people. Yes.
00:24:39.77\00:24:42.14
And then once they're
down and they're open...
00:24:42.34\00:24:43.81
And you know,
there's a Framingham study
00:24:44.01\00:24:46.11
that goes like this: the
people that you hang out with -
00:24:46.31\00:24:48.78
the 3 or 4 people
that you hang out with -
00:24:48.98\00:24:50.79
there's a 50% chance
you're going to become like
00:24:50.99\00:24:52.75
the people you hang out with.
00:24:52.95\00:24:54.29
If you hang out with people
who play video games all day,
00:24:54.32\00:24:56.02
there's a change you're going
to become a video game player.
00:24:56.22\00:24:57.79
That's right. But you hang out
with happy active fit Christians
00:24:57.99\00:25:01.00
who are outdoors
having a good time
00:25:01.20\00:25:02.73
there's a good chance that
you're going to want to become
00:25:02.93\00:25:05.10
like that. Amen.
That's right! That's right!
00:25:05.30\00:25:07.37
This is definitely something
that will interest a lot of
00:25:07.57\00:25:11.07
university-age
young adults to do.
00:25:11.27\00:25:14.84
And of course, adults alike.
It's an activity for everyone.
00:25:15.04\00:25:18.58
And that is the
beauty of ministry:
00:25:18.78\00:25:21.38
that you can reach people
of different walks of life.
00:25:21.58\00:25:24.89
That's right. One
thing I wanted to say also
00:25:25.09\00:25:27.62
is that the Lord
has used you to initiate
00:25:27.82\00:25:32.56
this ministry F5 Challenge
but also you work as a team.
00:25:32.76\00:25:36.87
It sounds like
you become a family...
00:25:37.07\00:25:39.67
an intimate group of people that
you're there for each other.
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And there's not a
better place that people feel
00:25:44.64\00:25:48.78
you know like
"You care about me. "
00:25:48.98\00:25:51.28
"You give me your time. "
00:25:51.48\00:25:52.81
You know, time is more
valuable than money at times
00:25:52.85\00:25:55.85
because nobody gives you
the time. But here you are
00:25:56.05\00:26:00.06
with this ministry. It's
a very personal ministry -
00:26:00.26\00:26:02.79
that's right - so the
Lord bless your ministry.
00:26:02.99\00:26:05.43
I'd like to see some pictures.
00:26:05.63\00:26:07.00
We like to see
pictures... that's right.
00:26:07.20\00:26:08.53
Great. Yeah, some of these
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are pictures from some
of our active events. OK.
00:26:11.13\00:26:13.67
Every year we do
one flagship large event
00:26:13.87\00:26:16.20
but almost every month
there are events going on.
00:26:16.40\00:26:19.71
So if you go on
our Facebook group
00:26:19.91\00:26:21.44
click on events and
you'll see events coming.
00:26:21.64\00:26:23.68
This was one of our
largest group events. Wow!
00:26:23.88\00:26:25.68
Now, why do people want to
come? Another reason why is
00:26:25.88\00:26:28.12
we're going to places
like Yosemite Half Dome.
00:26:28.32\00:26:31.09
Lake Tahoe... that's Lake Tahoe.
00:26:31.29\00:26:32.62
Joshua Tree; the Grand Tetons.
00:26:32.65\00:26:35.02
Wow! We go to places that
people actually want to go to.
00:26:35.22\00:26:37.56
Yes. When I was a
part of ARME Bible Camp
00:26:37.76\00:26:39.76
the way we draw people to come
in is with big-name speakers,
00:26:39.96\00:26:42.46
right? People want
to hear the speakers.
00:26:42.66\00:26:44.17
Well at our event they're
coming because they all want to
00:26:44.37\00:26:46.40
go see Zion National Park. Amen.
00:26:46.60\00:26:49.27
So the place becomes part of
the drawing of the attraction.
00:26:49.67\00:26:53.58
The fellowship as well.
00:26:53.78\00:26:55.18
And you have people
coming from different aspects
00:26:55.38\00:26:58.75
or different places
but they join together
00:26:58.95\00:27:01.62
and then they form a bond.
00:27:01.82\00:27:03.15
They get to know one another
00:27:03.32\00:27:04.65
and the relationship
continues after the event.
00:27:04.75\00:27:08.02
You know, we talk a lot about
fellowship in the church, right?
00:27:08.22\00:27:10.89
Right. So when you go to
a lot of these conferences
00:27:11.09\00:27:13.36
they're wonderful.
But you know what you do?
00:27:13.56\00:27:14.90
You sit in seminars all-day
long. And if you're social
00:27:15.06\00:27:18.27
when you're in line for meals
you might get to meet and talk
00:27:18.47\00:27:20.54
and mingle with people. Right.
But if you're not and you're shy
00:27:20.74\00:27:23.07
you may not. What
we did is we decided
00:27:23.27\00:27:25.37
let's have less meetings
and more interactive activities
00:27:25.57\00:27:28.34
as some of these
pictures will highlight
00:27:28.54\00:27:29.88
some of the things
that we do at our events
00:27:29.91\00:27:31.68
where before our meetings
we do a lot of icebreakers.
00:27:31.88\00:27:35.35
Breaking up into
groups you're making friends.
00:27:35.55\00:27:37.95
Yes. Constantly going
outdoors and doing things.
00:27:38.15\00:27:42.26
There's nothing like...
You go on a hike with people
00:27:42.46\00:27:44.16
you don't know for 2-3 hours
00:27:44.36\00:27:45.69
and you naturally just become
friends with each other. Yes.
00:27:45.73\00:27:47.70
So if you come to a F5 event
00:27:47.90\00:27:49.76
you will leave with
minimum 10-20, 30 new friends.
00:27:49.96\00:27:52.17
Um-hmm. So do you
have? Have you noticed
00:27:52.37\00:27:54.97
in these events that
you've participated in
00:27:55.17\00:27:58.77
that as people
are walking or running
00:27:58.97\00:28:02.18
they help one
another along the way?
00:28:02.38\00:28:04.95
All the time... all the time.
00:28:05.15\00:28:06.48
So glad you asked about this.
00:28:06.51\00:28:07.85
So a young man
was invited to come
00:28:08.15\00:28:10.32
who has muscular dystrophy?
00:28:10.52\00:28:12.82
He's in a wheelchair - oh
wow - since he was 15 years old.
00:28:13.02\00:28:15.32
So you can imagine
how difficult life becomes
00:28:16.22\00:28:17.89
when you're diagnosed
with muscular dystrophy.
00:28:18.09\00:28:20.10
He married the
woman of his dreams
00:28:20.30\00:28:22.26
and many years later
she left him because he was
00:28:22.66\00:28:25.37
no longer the man
that she had married.
00:28:25.57\00:28:27.10
And they had a child together.
00:28:27.30\00:28:28.84
And so in his
30's you can imagine
00:28:29.24\00:28:32.34
he was in a very very
dark place in his life. Yes.
00:28:32.54\00:28:34.74
He came, and when he came
his sister asked before he came
00:28:35.31\00:28:38.11
were there any hikes
that we could take him on
00:28:38.31\00:28:40.05
in a wheelchair. And
when I looked into it
00:28:40.25\00:28:41.92
at Zion National Park
there were some paved trails
00:28:42.12\00:28:44.19
you could take
disabled people on.
00:28:44.39\00:28:46.09
But I thought: "Let's do
something spectacular for this
00:28:46.49\00:28:48.22
young man. " And
I said to my team:
00:28:48.42\00:28:49.99
"What if we take him to
the top of Angels Landing? "
00:28:50.19\00:28:52.46
So Angels Landing is
one of the most famous hikes
00:28:52.86\00:28:55.20
in the world. Probably one
of the top 10 most famous hikes
00:28:55.40\00:28:57.17
but it's also considered
one of the top 10 most dangerous
00:28:57.37\00:28:59.07
hikes in the
world - oh wow! because
00:28:59.27\00:29:00.60
there are cliffs literally
on the side, that drop off.
00:29:00.77\00:29:02.90
Wow! Our team is
made up... We've got
00:29:03.10\00:29:04.97
rock climbers, and so you
know we said: "Let's take him up
00:29:05.17\00:29:07.48
there. " So we put
him in the wheelchair
00:29:07.64\00:29:09.21
and we wheeled him up
as far as we could go.
00:29:09.41\00:29:11.31
And once we got to a
point where we could no longer
00:29:11.51\00:29:14.12
push him, using harness,
ropes, carabiners clipping in
00:29:14.32\00:29:18.22
we carried him. Took
turns carrying him all the way
00:29:18.42\00:29:21.12
to the top of Angels
Landing. That is marvelous!
00:29:21.32\00:29:23.96
The day before when we
were doing our practice
00:29:24.16\00:29:26.59
hike when we took
him up to a certain spot
00:29:26.80\00:29:29.03
as soon as we sat him down
he just had tears coming down.
00:29:29.23\00:29:32.27
Wow! Because it
had been years since
00:29:32.47\00:29:35.00
he ever got to
experience something like this.
00:29:35.20\00:29:37.07
We weren't expecting
this but it made the news.
00:29:37.27\00:29:39.71
It even made Inside Edition.
00:29:39.91\00:29:41.38
It became a big deal.
00:29:41.58\00:29:43.55
Wow! Now this
completely changed his life
00:29:43.75\00:29:46.48
to find that these people cared
so much to do this for him.
00:29:47.72\00:29:50.79
Amen! And now he's
one of our team members.
00:29:50.99\00:29:52.62
He's active in
ministry. Loves the Lord. Amen!
00:29:52.82\00:29:55.56
And even though he
can't move well physically
00:29:55.76\00:29:57.86
he knows that he
can be used by God
00:29:58.06\00:29:59.69
to move peoples'
hearts and minds. Amen!
00:29:59.89\00:30:02.16
And so it's a beautiful story.
00:30:02.36\00:30:03.77
But another thing I want to
highlight about the story is
00:30:03.97\00:30:05.60
we had a team of 32
people to accomplish this.
00:30:05.80\00:30:09.00
There are people on our
team who have a legitimate fear
00:30:09.40\00:30:11.41
of heights. Oh wow! Yes?
00:30:11.61\00:30:13.51
OK. I mean... even people...
there's cliffs on both sides.
00:30:13.71\00:30:16.44
Yes. But you know, during the
entire adventure or experience
00:30:16.64\00:30:20.38
I cannot recall one person
00:30:20.58\00:30:22.38
who mentioned or made
any comment about their fear
00:30:22.58\00:30:25.09
of height. And why is that?
00:30:25.29\00:30:27.02
It's because everybody
was focused on taking Shue
00:30:27.89\00:30:30.33
to the top.
00:30:30.53\00:30:31.86
And you know I think
it's just a great analogy
00:30:31.89\00:30:35.26
for our Christian walk. Um-hmm.
00:30:35.46\00:30:36.80
You know, we're inundated
with worries and anxiety.
00:30:36.90\00:30:39.33
But when we focus our
attention on helping others
00:30:39.53\00:30:41.70
reach heaven, so many of
the things that we worry about
00:30:41.90\00:30:45.27
are so trivial and insignificant
00:30:45.47\00:30:47.18
that we can forget about them.
00:30:47.38\00:30:48.81
So the focus I think is helping
others to reach their goals.
00:30:49.01\00:30:52.48
You know, this is
wonderful. You mentioned that
00:30:52.68\00:30:54.88
people that are not necessarily
Christians or Adventists -
00:30:55.08\00:30:58.85
SDAs - join you and
they go ahead and participate
00:30:59.05\00:31:04.86
in this even though
they know I'm participating
00:31:05.06\00:31:07.20
with a
Christian group of people.
00:31:07.40\00:31:09.00
So it's not like they are
going to say: "I had no idea
00:31:09.20\00:31:12.40
you guys were going to
talk about Jesus Christ.
00:31:12.60\00:31:14.14
I'm just disappointed. "
But no... they are aware.
00:31:14.34\00:31:17.51
They know about
this but they still come.
00:31:17.71\00:31:19.34
Yes. I'll tell you about
one gal. She's a dentist.
00:31:19.54\00:31:22.14
She just saw the story
on the news and she went:
00:31:22.34\00:31:24.51
"Who are these people? I want
to be a part of them. " Awesome!
00:31:24.71\00:31:26.95
And then she actually
came to one of our main events.
00:31:27.15\00:31:29.25
And sometimes she'll message me
00:31:29.45\00:31:30.79
because she's got health
problems and she'll be asking me
00:31:30.99\00:31:32.55
for prayer and I
share it with the team.
00:31:32.75\00:31:34.22
And so it's incredible just
the people who want to be a part
00:31:34.42\00:31:37.03
of this. So what's
the best part of F5?
00:31:37.33\00:31:39.83
Hands down it's
the relationships.
00:31:40.80\00:31:43.16
Yes. You know, you could give
me a free first-class ticket
00:31:43.37\00:31:46.47
to Fiji by myself - um-hmm.
00:31:46.67\00:31:48.24
I'd rather be in the
desert with all my friends.
00:31:48.44\00:31:50.54
Right? Oh yes. And so
it's really the relationships.
00:31:50.74\00:31:53.44
Coming together and
having a mission together.
00:31:53.64\00:31:56.48
Something greater than
just serving ourselves.
00:31:56.68\00:31:59.41
Right? This world
is all about me, me, me
00:31:59.61\00:32:01.98
and here we're coming together.
00:32:02.18\00:32:03.52
And so you know in
addition to these adventures
00:32:03.55\00:32:05.69
we do mission trips. Yes!
Peru. One of our teams just
00:32:05.89\00:32:09.52
did a whole thing on
health for a Camp Meeting.
00:32:09.72\00:32:12.26
And so we do a lot
of different activities.
00:32:12.46\00:32:14.53
The overall big picture is
we want to use the blessings
00:32:14.73\00:32:18.13
that God has given us
to be a blessing to others.
00:32:18.33\00:32:20.94
In Desire of Ages, it
says speaking of Jesus:
00:32:21.10\00:32:23.41
"From His earliest years, He
was possessed of one purpose:
00:32:23.61\00:32:26.51
He lived to bless others. " Yes!
00:32:26.71\00:32:28.68
And as followers of Jesus
that's our purpose in life:
00:32:28.88\00:32:31.11
to be a blessing
to other people. Yes!
00:32:31.31\00:32:33.05
I want to read one quote
from the Spirit of Prophecy.
00:32:33.25\00:32:35.38
Please do. From
Evangelism page 122.4. It says:
00:32:35.58\00:32:39.39
And when I came
across this I said: "Wow! "
00:32:50.67\00:32:52.50
This is what F5 was. We hadn't
planned this to be a ministry.
00:32:52.70\00:32:55.17
But you know what? It's
kind of different and out
00:32:55.37\00:32:57.61
of the common course of things.
00:32:57.77\00:32:59.74
Another quote that I
really love about Jesus' methods
00:32:59.94\00:33:03.18
'cause He was a
master evangelist.
00:33:03.38\00:33:04.71
He knew how to reach
people, right? That's right.
00:33:04.85\00:33:06.41
And it says: "Jesus
found access to minds
00:33:06.61\00:33:08.98
by the pathway of the
most familiar associations.
00:33:09.18\00:33:12.19
He disturbed as
little as possible
00:33:12.39\00:33:14.06
their accustomed train of
thoughts by abrupt actions
00:33:14.26\00:33:16.52
or prescribed rules.
He honored man with His
00:33:16.73\00:33:18.86
confidence and thus
placed him on his honor. "
00:33:19.06\00:33:21.53
Just not too long ago
00:33:21.73\00:33:23.60
I was at the recycling
place throwing my cardboard.
00:33:23.80\00:33:25.80
There was a man with a Boston
Marathon finisher's jacket.
00:33:26.00\00:33:29.47
Oh! I knew exactly
what that jacket meant.
00:33:29.67\00:33:31.57
It meant he finished
the Boston Marathon. Right.
00:33:31.77\00:33:33.34
And I just walked
by and I said: "Hey,
00:33:33.54\00:33:35.04
great job on the
Boston Marathon. "
00:33:35.24\00:33:37.01
He lit up - of course -
00:33:37.21\00:33:38.91
and instantly he was like
my best friend sharing stories.
00:33:39.11\00:33:41.65
That's all it took. We had some-
thing in common. That's right.
00:33:41.85\00:33:43.92
And at the end I had a
Great Controversy in my car.
00:33:44.12\00:33:46.96
It's one of my
favorite books to hand out.
00:33:47.16\00:33:48.49
I handed this book to him. I'll
probably never see him again
00:33:48.52\00:33:50.23
but who knows? We
made a connection.
00:33:50.43\00:33:52.23
I got to give him
a Great Controversy.
00:33:52.43\00:33:53.76
Who knows? Only in
heaven will we know.
00:33:53.83\00:33:56.36
That's right. Ours
is just to sow seeds
00:33:56.56\00:33:58.43
and share the
love of Jesus. Um-hmm!
00:33:58.63\00:33:59.97
So the 5F Challenge...
Maybe somebody has just joined
00:34:00.10\00:34:03.71
in and they're
"Wow! What is this F5
00:34:03.91\00:34:05.71
when we hear F5? " Can
you tell us again what F5 is.
00:34:05.91\00:34:09.71
So... the five F's.
00:34:09.91\00:34:12.05
So the first F is faith.
00:34:12.45\00:34:14.28
Second is fellowship.
00:34:14.48\00:34:15.88
Fitness, fortitude, and fun.
00:34:16.28\00:34:19.12
It's easy to remember because
the second letter is a vowel:
00:34:19.32\00:34:20.89
A, E, I, O, U.
00:34:21.09\00:34:22.42
So it correlates with
the spiritual, which is
00:34:22.46\00:34:24.09
most important.
Emotional... fellowship.
00:34:24.29\00:34:26.83
That's what
fellowship does. Yes.
00:34:27.03\00:34:28.76
And then fitness...
our physical wellbeing.
00:34:28.96\00:34:31.13
Fortitude... we
want to challenge people
00:34:31.53\00:34:34.20
to get out of that
status quo. Right? Yes.
00:34:34.40\00:34:36.67
And that's what happens
when people come to the event.
00:34:36.87\00:34:38.21
They may be a couch
potato but they're seeing people
00:34:38.41\00:34:40.18
literally running through
the night doing a 48-mile run.
00:34:40.38\00:34:42.74
And they might not
shoot for that, but they might
00:34:42.94\00:34:44.35
be like: "You know what?
Next time maybe I'll shoot for
00:34:44.55\00:34:46.38
the 10-mile
hike. " Yes... right.
00:34:46.58\00:34:47.92
And so we want
to inspire people.
00:34:48.08\00:34:49.42
And then the last one
is social. So that's fun.
00:34:49.45\00:34:53.15
You know, God
created us to be social.
00:34:53.36\00:34:55.09
And so one of the things
when you come to our events
00:34:55.29\00:34:56.73
is we want to have a fun time
00:34:56.93\00:34:58.43
but use that for the
purpose of winning souls.
00:34:58.63\00:35:01.33
That's right. Praise the Lord!
00:35:01.53\00:35:02.86
Do you have more
pictures to share with us?
00:35:03.16\00:35:05.30
Yeah, let's pull up some more
pictures that we have on there.
00:35:05.50\00:35:08.30
So, after we took him -
Shue - on the Zion hike...
00:35:08.50\00:35:13.84
Yes? We took him on
his first half marathon.
00:35:14.04\00:35:16.85
And we took someone else
who had muscular dystrophy?
00:35:17.05\00:35:19.05
I like to think we could become
like the Make-A-Wish Foundation.
00:35:19.25\00:35:22.05
Make peoples'
adventure dreams come true.
00:35:22.25\00:35:24.92
And when Shue asked: "Hey,
I'd like to go rock climbing. "
00:35:25.12\00:35:27.96
Well if you want to go rock
climbing, the most famous place
00:35:28.16\00:35:31.23
to go rock climbing in
the world is El Capitan.
00:35:31.43\00:35:33.23
So we said: "Let's
take him to El Capitan. "
00:35:33.43\00:35:35.30
And so we climbed about
500' of El Capitan with him
00:35:35.50\00:35:38.33
and we had a special
electric ascend. Obviously
00:35:38.53\00:35:40.30
we can't physically... It's
kind of hard to climb with him.
00:35:40.50\00:35:42.64
We had a special
electric ascendive device
00:35:42.84\00:35:45.07
that we used to
haul him up there
00:35:45.27\00:35:46.84
and so we gave him...
And it's breathtaking!
00:35:47.04\00:35:48.68
When you're on El Cap
- yes! the famous rock
00:35:48.88\00:35:50.71
and just seeing... It was one of
the most incredible experiences.
00:35:50.91\00:35:53.85
You know what? I
love rock climbing,
00:35:54.05\00:35:55.88
but there's something special
about giving somebody else
00:35:56.08\00:35:58.59
who would never be able
to have the opportunity.
00:35:58.99\00:36:01.42
That's right! An
unforgettable experience
00:36:01.62\00:36:04.16
for a person like that. Yes.
00:36:04.36\00:36:06.43
Well... I was going to say
00:36:06.63\00:36:09.40
when we help those
that cannot help themselves
00:36:09.60\00:36:13.10
it is so rewarding to
our faith, to our daily walk.
00:36:13.60\00:36:19.07
And you know, there are
folks that just cannot do it.
00:36:19.27\00:36:22.51
It may not be that they
want to go up El Capitan
00:36:22.71\00:36:26.45
but that they just
need... Their needs are so
00:36:26.65\00:36:30.55
peculiar. So
please: let's take time to
00:36:30.75\00:36:33.76
know the people
around us and let's be humble
00:36:33.96\00:36:36.93
and ask the Lord to use us
to serve and fulfill the needs
00:36:37.13\00:36:40.86
of the people around us.
00:36:41.06\00:36:42.46
Because that is ready and
well available to everyone.
00:36:42.66\00:36:46.67
So these pictures... you know
a picture says a million words.
00:36:47.07\00:36:51.61
Right? So these experiences
really are heart-moving.
00:36:51.81\00:36:55.64
Now what are the
biggest challenges that F5 faces
00:36:56.18\00:37:01.32
as a ministry?
I'm so glad you asked.
00:37:01.52\00:37:02.85
So the best way to join F5
is to join the Facebook group.
00:37:03.42\00:37:06.05
It's called F5 Challenge members
00:37:06.25\00:37:07.82
and you press if
you want to join.
00:37:08.02\00:37:09.62
And anyone is welcome to join.
00:37:09.82\00:37:11.69
Um-hmm. And it's
really for all ages.
00:37:11.89\00:37:13.90
We have one 2-year-old
little baby kid coming with
00:37:14.10\00:37:16.63
their family. It
doesn't matter what age you are
00:37:16.83\00:37:18.97
since we want to be
all things to all people.
00:37:19.17\00:37:21.40
Yes. But the big
challenge is when someone joins
00:37:21.60\00:37:23.67
a lot of Seventh-day
Adventists grew up in a bubble
00:37:23.87\00:37:25.57
where all their friends were
Seventh-day Adventists. Yeah.
00:37:25.77\00:37:28.44
You see this very
commonly because you know what?
00:37:28.84\00:37:31.11
You'll see people
posting on their Facebook wall
00:37:31.31\00:37:33.65
as if all their friends
are Seventh-day Adventist.
00:37:33.85\00:37:36.65
That's right. But that's
not the case. That's right.
00:37:36.85\00:37:38.25
When you post something
on Facebook you need to be
00:37:38.45\00:37:39.79
very careful because
you may have a co-worker
00:37:39.99\00:37:41.86
or a relative who's
not Seventh-day Adventist
00:37:42.06\00:37:43.83
and they're reading what
you're writing. That's true.
00:37:44.03\00:37:45.73
And so the thing is that
00:37:45.93\00:37:47.30
we want to feel
gracious with people.
00:37:47.50\00:37:49.36
And you know, today we
live in such a divisive world.
00:37:49.56\00:37:52.23
Satan is good...
he's been doing it since
00:37:52.43\00:37:54.40
the beginning:
divide and conquer.
00:37:54.60\00:37:55.94
I mean there are so
many divisive issues
00:37:56.14\00:37:58.04
that when you post your
position on a certain topic
00:37:58.24\00:38:01.01
you may gain favor
with 50% of your friends
00:38:01.21\00:38:03.68
and the other 50% you just
lost credibility with them.
00:38:03.88\00:38:06.11
Exactly. So one of
my biggest things is
00:38:06.31\00:38:08.42
trying to get people to under-
stand about how to be engaged
00:38:08.62\00:38:11.19
in friendship evangelism.
00:38:11.39\00:38:12.72
So one of the
challenges is they just come on
00:38:12.75\00:38:14.82
and they just assume
that we're an SDA group
00:38:15.02\00:38:16.89
and everybody's
Seventh-day Adventist.
00:38:17.09\00:38:18.43
I like to tell people we're
like Pathfinders for all ages.
00:38:18.59\00:38:21.23
That's right! BUT when they come
on there and they're posting
00:38:21.43\00:38:24.87
comments and stuff - uh
huh - and you know we as SDA's
00:38:25.07\00:38:27.80
have a beautiful sub culture
but it's a strong sub culture.
00:38:28.00\00:38:31.61
Oh yeah. And so the thing is
00:38:31.81\00:38:33.24
some of us don't realize that.
00:38:33.44\00:38:35.64
And sometimes we can come across
looking pretty strange and weird
00:38:35.84\00:38:39.21
to the rest of the world.
00:38:39.41\00:38:40.75
That's right. Sometimes
we have to delete comments -
00:38:40.82\00:38:42.58
yes - which would be totally
normal amongst us - right -
00:38:42.78\00:38:46.05
but you know when we've
got... On our Facebook group
00:38:46.25\00:38:48.76
I'm inviting my friends who
are rock climbers from the gym
00:38:48.96\00:38:51.29
and my running group 'cause
I'm taking them on adventures.
00:38:51.49\00:38:53.43
They want to be on the
group because they want to see
00:38:53.63\00:38:55.26
the pictures afterward -
yes - and they make friends.
00:38:55.46\00:38:57.07
Right. You know, I've got
friends. Before joining F5
00:38:57.27\00:39:00.60
they may have never known a
single Seventh-day Adventist.
00:39:00.80\00:39:02.54
There's a gal I
met in the airport.
00:39:02.94\00:39:04.84
She overheard me talking.
00:39:05.04\00:39:06.91
She came up to me
and started talking.
00:39:07.11\00:39:08.54
And we connected instantly
because we were both into
00:39:08.74\00:39:10.75
triathlon. She's been
to a number of our events.
00:39:10.95\00:39:13.72
Amen! And the thing is
she's got 20, 30 SDA friends.
00:39:13.92\00:39:18.42
That's wonderful!
That's great! Yes!
00:39:18.62\00:39:20.56
However,
sometimes we may say things.
00:39:20.76\00:39:22.79
And so my thing is
is when I get a platform
00:39:22.99\00:39:24.66
like being here
which is a HUGE blessing
00:39:24.86\00:39:26.80
where I can really
share with an audience
00:39:27.00\00:39:29.10
to let them know what F5 is
really about... 'cause I cannot
00:39:29.30\00:39:31.27
share this on our
Facebook group - right -
00:39:31.47\00:39:33.03
because we've got all these
people who are non-believers
00:39:33.23\00:39:35.04
on there. That's
right. And so the thing is
00:39:35.24\00:39:37.17
that we don't
want them to know it.
00:39:37.37\00:39:39.67
Like for example, a well-
meaning SDA might put on there
00:39:39.87\00:39:41.94
Fitness for Witness.
I'm like No, No, No...
00:39:42.14\00:39:44.01
that's our internal motto.
00:39:44.21\00:39:45.55
That's not what we
advertise publicly.
00:39:45.58\00:39:47.22
First and foremost, it's
all about making connections.
00:39:47.42\00:39:50.95
Right. And so
that's one of the things.
00:39:51.15\00:39:52.85
And we want everyone to
know 'cause from the outside
00:39:53.05\00:39:55.52
some people think this
is just a group of SDA's
00:39:55.72\00:39:57.89
who just get together
and all they do is have fun.
00:39:58.09\00:39:59.86
Um-hmm. You know
what I mean? Right.
00:40:00.06\00:40:01.43
But we have a deeper
purpose than just having fun -
00:40:01.63\00:40:03.67
That's right - for the
purpose of making connections.
00:40:03.87\00:40:06.23
So I'll share an
example of a testimony.
00:40:06.63\00:40:08.90
Please do. This gal... she
was just a climber in my gym.
00:40:09.10\00:40:11.97
A rock climber. And
I invited her to come
00:40:12.17\00:40:14.48
with us to one
of our big events.
00:40:14.68\00:40:18.45
Now she was driving with
us. We had a long road trip
00:40:18.65\00:40:21.18
and within just a few
hours of course the conversation
00:40:21.38\00:40:25.15
turned into between her and
one of our very well-meaning
00:40:25.35\00:40:27.56
members about why you should
eat meat and why you shouldn't
00:40:27.76\00:40:30.23
eat meat. Now can you imagine?
00:40:30.43\00:40:32.26
I'm just kind of like: "Uhhh. "
00:40:32.46\00:40:34.60
You know, when you
give someone Bible studies
00:40:34.80\00:40:36.83
which is something
I'm passionate about doing
00:40:37.03\00:40:38.37
that's a topic we talk about
towards the end, right? Right.
00:40:38.50\00:40:41.34
NOT one of the first topics.
00:40:41.54\00:40:43.27
But you know it's
a topic that you know
00:40:43.47\00:40:45.87
our church often
with good intentions
00:40:46.07\00:40:49.64
you know gravitates
towards quickly. Right.
00:40:49.84\00:40:51.38
And I'm just literally
like wanting to just disappear
00:40:51.58\00:40:54.12
in my chair, you know
what I mean? Yes. But anyway,
00:40:54.32\00:40:55.85
she had a great time.
00:40:56.05\00:40:57.59
She came back to another event
and then she just sent me this
00:40:57.79\00:41:00.26
message. And she said:
00:41:00.46\00:41:01.79
Praise the Lord! And
like this just sums it up.
00:41:27.08\00:41:29.12
You know, it would be very
difficult for me to say this
00:41:29.32\00:41:31.49
to somebody in my rock climbing
gym: "How would you like to go
00:41:31.69\00:41:33.32
to church with me? " Exactly.
You like people to go church...
00:41:33.52\00:41:35.62
especially where I
come from in the Northwest
00:41:35.82\00:41:37.73
it's a very secular area.
00:41:37.93\00:41:39.39
Right. As soon as they know
you're a Christian, sometimes
00:41:39.59\00:41:41.96
there is already kind of
this guard up there, right?
00:41:42.16\00:41:44.77
But instead: "Hey, come
out and have fun with us. "
00:41:45.17\00:41:47.07
'Cause I had
invited her to go hiking
00:41:47.27\00:41:48.70
and so she had warmed
up. She came to our event
00:41:48.90\00:41:50.61
and so you know...
00:41:50.81\00:41:52.17
That's right. This
just kind of sums up.
00:41:52.37\00:41:53.71
Is F5 Challenge one
event a year and that's it?
00:41:54.71\00:41:59.98
Or is there more?
00:42:00.18\00:42:01.52
Our main flagship
event is once a year.
00:42:01.55\00:42:04.02
It's usually towards
the end of the Summer
00:42:04.22\00:42:05.82
or beginning of the Fall
but every month we have events.
00:42:06.02\00:42:08.86
OK. And any member can
put on their own event.
00:42:09.06\00:42:11.76
For example let's
just say you join.
00:42:11.96\00:42:14.33
And you go: "You know,
I'm going to be backpacking
00:42:14.53\00:42:15.93
in Yosemite for 3 days.
Who wants to come join me? "
00:42:16.13\00:42:18.30
And you can set it up
right on our Facebook group
00:42:18.50\00:42:19.83
'cause you just click
a tab. Any member can.
00:42:20.04\00:42:22.60
So there's local events
coming on. There's big events
00:42:22.80\00:42:25.17
coming on. There's
mission trips going on.
00:42:25.37\00:42:26.78
We do service activities.
00:42:26.98\00:42:28.71
What we want to do is
because on our FaceBook group
00:42:28.91\00:42:31.25
there's about
probably about 4,800 members.
00:42:31.45\00:42:33.65
Wow! We want
this to be a platform.
00:42:33.85\00:42:35.88
So like Build and Restore Intl.
I know they've been on here
00:42:36.08\00:42:38.32
interviewed. Where they need
people for their mission trips
00:42:38.52\00:42:40.89
they advertise on our
group and say: "Hey look! "
00:42:41.09\00:42:43.39
So we want to have... Let's
mobilize these young adults
00:42:43.79\00:42:48.16
who are healthy and happy
and who want to use their gifts
00:42:48.36\00:42:52.23
that God has given
them for service. Um-hmm.
00:42:52.43\00:42:54.47
And so that's another thing
that we want to do with our
00:42:54.67\00:42:56.00
ministry is a surplus of people
who can go on mission trips?
00:42:56.04\00:42:59.84
Idalia said something
earlier that I'd like for our...
00:43:00.04\00:43:03.35
those that are
listening to consider. You know
00:43:03.55\00:43:06.85
this... your group, they
have a passion for the outdoors
00:43:07.05\00:43:11.29
and climbing and
hiking and even running.
00:43:11.49\00:43:17.03
But perhaps
somebody that is listening
00:43:17.23\00:43:21.36
has a passion for another area.
00:43:21.56\00:43:23.60
And she said: "You can
turn that into ministry. "
00:43:23.80\00:43:26.60
So ask the Lord how you can
turn that which you like to do
00:43:26.80\00:43:30.14
into a ministry.
Because you put that quote
00:43:30.34\00:43:34.28
and you read it that
said that we need to find new,
00:43:34.48\00:43:38.71
unusual, and unique
ways to reach out to others.
00:43:38.91\00:43:41.98
And F5 Challenge
is something unique
00:43:42.18\00:43:45.42
but it's for everyone.
So you don't have... is it?
00:43:45.62\00:43:48.82
It's not only for single people?
00:43:49.12\00:43:50.53
It's for everybody, is
that right? It's for all ages.
00:43:50.93\00:43:53.29
All ages. Now we get a
lot of single people coming
00:43:53.50\00:43:55.86
'cause it's a great way
for the single adults to meet
00:43:56.06\00:43:57.77
other single people. We've
even had couples get married!
00:43:57.97\00:44:00.47
Yeah, what a great
place! Know what I mean?
00:44:00.67\00:44:03.20
So it's not a singles only
and it's not a singles retreat
00:44:03.41\00:44:05.71
but we definitely get a
lot of singles who are coming.
00:44:05.91\00:44:07.74
I love what you said because
00:44:07.94\00:44:09.28
you know some
people love quilting.
00:44:09.31\00:44:10.95
They love gardening.
00:44:11.35\00:44:12.68
So find what you love to do
00:44:12.71\00:44:14.68
and use that to
connect with people.
00:44:14.88\00:44:16.65
So I just love how
you underscored that.
00:44:16.85\00:44:18.52
Amen! Amen! Well, what is
the best way to get involved?
00:44:18.72\00:44:22.82
The best way: One is you
can check out our website
00:44:23.22\00:44:26.19
which is F5Challenge.org - OK -
00:44:26.39\00:44:28.63
but the best way really is
just join our Facebook group.
00:44:28.83\00:44:31.30
Now I understand some
people are not on Facebook group
00:44:31.70\00:44:33.84
but we found Facebook group
to be the best because it's very
00:44:34.04\00:44:35.84
interactive. People can go to an
event & then post their pictures
00:44:36.04\00:44:39.24
and then the friends
that they met are commenting.
00:44:39.44\00:44:41.78
And you can constantly
see your friends that you met
00:44:41.98\00:44:44.21
and stay in
touch through Facebook
00:44:44.41\00:44:45.88
and the next time you go too.
00:44:46.08\00:44:47.65
There are some people who
have told me the only reason why
00:44:47.85\00:44:49.98
they're on Facebook is
because of F5 Challenge.
00:44:50.19\00:44:52.12
Look at that! 'Cause so much
of what's on social media is
00:44:52.32\00:44:55.16
negative. Right. You
get constant complaining
00:44:55.36\00:44:58.19
and divisive issues. Yes.
When you go on our F5 Challenge
00:44:58.39\00:45:00.86
there's nothing but
positivity. Excellent!
00:45:01.06\00:45:02.80
We don't talk about the
things that are divisive.
00:45:03.00\00:45:04.57
It's all about fitness...
encouraging one another.
00:45:04.77\00:45:07.20
People put up inspiring stories.
00:45:07.40\00:45:09.54
And so it encourages
people, yeah. That's wonderful.
00:45:09.74\00:45:13.88
Where do you see your ministry
let's say in five years?
00:45:14.08\00:45:18.15
You know just recently
it's really starting to take off
00:45:18.35\00:45:20.72
with people and so we
want to continue doing this.
00:45:20.92\00:45:23.65
We love the mission
projects aspects of this.
00:45:23.85\00:45:26.49
There's so much need out there.
00:45:26.69\00:45:28.16
There are people
who are struggling,
00:45:28.36\00:45:29.92
and so even on a one-day project
we'll go to someone's house
00:45:30.13\00:45:32.79
and just help them. And so
we want to continue to see this
00:45:32.99\00:45:35.86
growing and we want to see
it growing in other parts of the
00:45:36.06\00:45:38.03
world as well. It's starting
to pop up in other places
00:45:38.23\00:45:40.50
of the world. OK. So you
have your European chapter?
00:45:40.70\00:45:44.04
Your different
chapters of the ministry?
00:45:44.24\00:45:46.78
All over the world. Exactly.
00:45:46.98\00:45:48.31
So you say we... how many
people form like a core group
00:45:48.44\00:45:52.61
of team members that
are part of the organizing
00:45:52.81\00:45:55.58
and planning for
these events? OK.
00:45:55.78\00:45:58.49
We have a team of
about 25-30 on our team.
00:45:59.12\00:46:01.82
And we have a board;
we're a legitimate 501c3.
00:46:02.02\00:46:05.06
I stepped down last November.
I've got so much on my plate
00:46:05.26\00:46:08.90
so I'm on the board and I
work with the new director.
00:46:09.10\00:46:11.67
We have a new
director, Rolando Fulgencio,
00:46:11.87\00:46:13.64
who's doing an amazing job.
00:46:13.84\00:46:15.17
And the thing is: after
being a director for 5 years
00:46:15.24\00:46:17.27
sometimes it's good to have
new leadership come in. Yes!
00:46:17.47\00:46:19.24
So while I'm still actively in-
volved, he's got amazing vision.
00:46:19.44\00:46:23.24
And now what he's done
is he's brought in a whole
00:46:23.45\00:46:25.81
new set of leaders to
join our existing team.
00:46:26.01\00:46:29.08
Excellent. And so
right now we're in the works,
00:46:29.28\00:46:30.75
and I don't know what the
exact number is, but our team
00:46:30.95\00:46:32.59
has probably almost doubled
or tripled at this point.
00:46:32.79\00:46:35.59
Amen! Because there's something
about when you bring someone in
00:46:35.79\00:46:39.23
and they have buy-in and
they're part of the team -
00:46:39.43\00:46:42.30
leadership team -
they're more active.
00:46:42.50\00:46:44.60
And so yeah, we're
excited about the future.
00:46:44.80\00:46:46.87
You've had so many
activities and meetings.
00:46:47.07\00:46:50.81
So many folks. There has to
be one that stands out the most.
00:46:51.07\00:46:57.05
Not your favorite but one
that has marked your life.
00:46:57.25\00:47:00.18
Which one has that been?
00:47:00.38\00:47:03.02
Hands down for me it
was the Zion National Park
00:47:03.22\00:47:06.02
adventure. OK. Not only
was it the most beautiful place
00:47:06.22\00:47:09.46
to be and the people had
such an amazing experience.
00:47:09.66\00:47:11.73
It was really... I've been on
a lot of incredible adventures,
00:47:11.93\00:47:14.70
and of all the adventures
that I've done there was nothing
00:47:15.96\00:47:19.73
like taking Shue to the
top of Angels Landing. Wow!
00:47:19.93\00:47:22.30
The people in the park
had mostly all heard about it
00:47:22.50\00:47:25.91
and it was just abuzz.
We weren't expecting this.
00:47:26.11\00:47:28.84
Just a funny story. You
know, the tourists there
00:47:29.04\00:47:32.68
are seeing this,
right? Yes. I mean it's crazy.
00:47:32.88\00:47:34.88
we're literally carrying...
They're getting out of the way
00:47:35.08\00:47:36.82
and we're carrying him
all the way to the top.
00:47:37.02\00:47:38.65
You've gotta imagine
how much work that is.
00:47:38.85\00:47:40.19
Yes. Every 500 ft. or so...
00:47:40.36\00:47:41.86
300 ft. we'd
swap and take turns.
00:47:42.06\00:47:44.09
And so the people
are seeing this. Now
00:47:44.29\00:47:46.43
one of our directors was
getting married the next week.
00:47:46.63\00:47:48.96
OK. So I told him:
"Why don't you bring your
00:47:49.16\00:47:52.07
tuxedo and your wedding outfit
00:47:52.27\00:47:53.60
and go to the top and
take wedding pictures? "
00:47:53.64\00:47:54.97
Which they did. And
so I heard the rumor was
00:47:55.07\00:47:57.41
"there's a wedding at
the top of Zion National Park
00:47:57.61\00:48:00.64
and their friends had to get
their disabled friend to the top
00:48:00.84\00:48:03.61
to get to the
wedding. " That was fun!
00:48:03.81\00:48:05.71
But the thing is truly that was
life-changing for a lot of us.
00:48:05.91\00:48:08.62
Yes. That was the
most amazing experience
00:48:08.82\00:48:11.39
for me personally.
Amen! Amen! How encouraging!
00:48:11.59\00:48:14.16
How encouraging! Well
I do pray God's blessing
00:48:14.36\00:48:19.53
over your ministry and I
pray for you at home as well.
00:48:19.73\00:48:23.40
I know you want to
be used by the Lord
00:48:23.80\00:48:25.63
and what a privilege to be
able to listen to how the Lord
00:48:25.83\00:48:29.80
is using a peculiar ministry,
a peculiar way of reaching
00:48:30.01\00:48:33.31
to others and fulfill the
needs... not only physical
00:48:33.51\00:48:37.25
but emotional and
mental and spiritual needs
00:48:37.45\00:48:41.62
of those around us.
00:48:41.82\00:48:43.79
And those that we have not
met yet, right? That's right.
00:48:43.99\00:48:47.29
So the Lord will bring
those people to your group.
00:48:47.49\00:48:50.93
The important thing
is to have a purpose.
00:48:51.13\00:48:53.19
That's right. And we're going
to share the contact information
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for the F5 Challenge group in
a moment, so please get ready.
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As I said before if you
don't have a pen or something
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or if your pen all of a sudden
fails, try to get your phone
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or something and take a picture
of the screen if you can.
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But there are people listening
on radio, so we encourage you
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to record... you can
even record what we are saying
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so that you can have
the information you need
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to get in touch with the
F5 Challenge and participate
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and encourage people
to do something like this.
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This is marvelous.
And you even said that
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members can
organize their own event.
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Have you seen that
happening? All the time!
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All the time? You know, we
have two types of people, right?
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Some people are
just naturally leaders -
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right - but the
majority are followers.
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But the ones who
lead set up an event
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and they'll do it
over and over again.
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And it's fun. It's very
rewarding to set up an event
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and have people
come. And so, yeah...
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And we are all about
mentoring other people
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and encouraging them.
And sometimes they just need
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to be asked. Like:
"Hey, why don't you do this? "
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"Why don't you lead a
group and go do this? "
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And all of a
sudden: "Oh, I was asked! "
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Yes!. And they're
inspired to do that. Excellent!
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This is marvelous! This
is a wonderful opportunity
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and I am glad that you
know when you mentioned this
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you said that even
couch potatoes joined.
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And you know, there's
also the different aspects
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of an event that: "Hey,
maybe you can't go the full
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distance. You can do
part. " Right. And I like that
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because you were giving
many people an opportunity
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because not everybody can
do like for example you said
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48 miles but they
can do part of it.
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You know, they can
do a little bit of it.
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So this is great. Yes,
he did mention you could do
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two miles, three
miles, eight, you know. Yes.
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The important thing is
to take a step forward.
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That's right. That's
for everyone. That's right.
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Well, our time is just
about up for this segment.
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And this has been a
marvelous marvelous experience.
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Calvin has many
things more to share.
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And we are going to take a
break and share the contact info
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so that everyone
that wants to take part
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and know more about F5 Challenge
can get the info you need.
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Also, they may even want to
know: "Hey, how... how do I get
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started with
something like this? "
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Have you had any invitations
for example to churches
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to share about some
of these experiences?
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Absolutely. Any
opportunity we get
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we try do our best
to accommodate them.
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We've been able to go to
like Holbrook Indian School
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and do a whole weekend
event for the students there.
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As I mentioned, we had a team
that was just at the Penn. Conf.
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Camp Meeting
putting on a whole event.
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We were just at the NAD
their called conference.
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Yes. Six thousand attendees
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and we were putting on
the exercise segment for them,
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morning exercises. And so, yeah,
something that we love to do.
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Excellent. Well we'll
be back in just a moment.
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