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life mending broken people ¤
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my life removing pain ¤
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¤ Lord let my words
heal a heart that hurts ¤
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life mending broken people ¤
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Hello friends. Welcome to 3ABN
Today. I want to thank all of
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you for being with us today.
We have a very, very special
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program during this hour. You're
not going to want to go anywhere
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Don't change the channel,
don't change it, don't go to a
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different YouTube video whatever
it is, however, it is you're
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watching this program right now.
You're not going to want to miss
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this hour, this special hour
together because we have three
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ministries with us today in the
house and we're excited about
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what we're going to be talking
about. We're going to be talking
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about evangelism. Opportunities
that these special motorcycle
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ministries as well as another
ministry is what they're doing
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to take the gospel to as many
people as possible. Just to let
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you know who I am in case you
don't know, I'm Ryan Day. I work
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here in the pastoral department
at 3ABN and if you are brand new
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to the Three Angels Broadcasting
Network we just want to say
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thank you for joining us and
welcome to the family. Because
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today on this special program
we have with us Sabbath Keepers
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Motorcycle Ministry. Okay. We're
going to be talking to James
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Castillo in just a few
moments. How you doing James?
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I'm blessed.
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Amen and praise the Lord. And
then we also have Peter O'Connor
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with us and you're going to be
representing He Returns Ministry
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(That is correct) Amen, praise
the Lord. And then we have
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Sinuhe Figuroa. (Yes) Did I
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say that right? (Oh yes) Sinuhe
Figueroa. I just like the name
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brother. (No that's right)
All right. And you are with
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the Adventist
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Motorcycle Ministry (That's
correct) and man these guys have
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a powerful testimony. I haven't
heard it all so I'm going to be
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hearing a lot of this for
the first time just like you are
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today. But we've talked a little
bit about this in preparing for
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this special program today. I'm
excited to hear their story and
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and what God is doing through
them and a major, major upcoming
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it's actually the biggest, from
my understanding, the biggest
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motorcycle rally in the nation
Sturgis and I know I think it's
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in South Dakota. Is that right?
Okay. (That's correct) We're
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going to be talking about that.
We don't want to spoil just yet
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but before we get right into
their story and into what God is
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doing for them we're going
to have a special musical number
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brought to us by Pastor John
Lomacang and he's going to be
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singing a special song for
us that's entitled I Will Go.
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¤ ¤
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¤ Give me ears
to hear you Spirit ¤
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¤ Give me feet
to follow through ¤
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¤ Give me hands to
touch the hurting ¤
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¤ And the faith to follow You ¤
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¤ Give me grace
to be your servant ¤
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¤ Give me mercy for the lost ¤
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¤ Give me
passion for your glory ¤
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¤ Give me
passion for the cross ¤
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¤ And I go where
there are no easy roads ¤
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¤ Leave the
comforts that I know ¤
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¤ I will go and let
this journey be my home ¤
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¤ I will go, I will go ¤
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¤ I'll let go of my ambition
cut the roots that run so deep ¤
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¤ I will learn to give
away what I cannot really keep ¤
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¤ What I cannot really keep ¤
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¤ Help me see
with eyes of faith ¤
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¤ Give me
strength to run this race ¤
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¤ And I will go where
there are no easy roads ¤
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¤ Leave the
comforts that I know ¤
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¤ I will go and let
this journey be my home ¤
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¤ I will go, I will go ¤
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¤ I will go where
your glory is unknown ¤
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¤ I will live for you alone ¤
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¤ I will go because
my life is not my own ¤
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¤ I will go, I
will go, I will go ¤
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Amen, amen. Thank you so much
Pastor John Lomacang for that
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beautiful song, I Will Go.
That's what the Bible message,
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the commission is all about. God
is sending us out to take the
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gospel to all of the world and
that's exactly what the Lord is
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leading these powerful
ministries that are with us
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today to do. And so I want to
just give a general introduction
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to my friends here. I have
to admit I don't normally answer
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my phone for just random
messages or random numbers that
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come through if I don't know
who it is. I like to know who it
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is first before I answer.
Because we get a lot of spam
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calls and whatnot. I got this
weird phone call one day on my
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phone and I didn't recognize
the number and a few minutes
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later my brother calls me
and he says, Hey, did you get a
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phone call from my friend
in Texas. I said I don't know I
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don't think so. And he said,
well he said he tried to call
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you. Come to find out it was
Sinuhe and you were calling me
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and you had touched base with
me and you said, Hey brother,
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we've got a powerful work that's
going to be going on in South
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Dakota and you're representing
Adventist Motorcycle Ministry.
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So Sinuhe tell us a little bit
about you and a little bit about
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your background and
where you're from and all that.
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Well if it's ever a good time
to pull strings it is because of
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this because of the
vision. God's gives what it is.
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Amen, brother.
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Well my name is Sinuhe Figueroa
as you already told the audience
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and I'm originally from
Acapulco, Mexico but been living
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20 years now in Houston, Texas
with my family over there and
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my wife, beautiful wife and
children. And I'm part of the
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Adventist Motorcycle Ministry.
And the Adventist Motorcycle
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Ministry was initiated here in
the U.S. in the state of Florida
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2008. So a group of retired
pastors got together. They loved
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riding motorcycles, they're all
into it. But you know they're
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also all into ministry. So they
said what about if we use this
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what we like, you know our
passion about motorcycles and
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our passion about ministry, just
put it together, combine it. And
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they started you know
like riding places, going and
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visiting people, the sick, the
elderly, incarcerated and they
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started like also going and
mingling and reaching out to the
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bikers. And that's how
this ministry originated.
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All right. So we're going to
come back to you in just a few
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moments, a little bit more
on Adventist Motorcycle Ministry
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but I want to go on to my
brother Pete O'Connor and you're
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representing He Returns Ministry
today. So Pete tell us a little
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bit about yourself, where
you're from, your background.
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I'm originally from, not
originally but I came from
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Nebraska. I spent 20 years in
the military there. So I ended
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up being with the ministry
called He Returns about two
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years ago actually when the
pandemic started. And one of the
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church members, vice president
when He Returns was actually
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asking me all these weird
questions every Sabbath and I
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didn't realize that he was
interviewing me. Ha. So and when
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he got to know who I was and
interviewing me they invited me
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one day for potluck and I went
to their house for a potluck and
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they actually asked me if
I wanted to be part of their
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ministry. I said sure. Tell me
more about what He Returns is.
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And He Returns is basically
spreading the three angels'
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messages in Revelation chapter
14 to be out there, you know
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spread out every nation, tribe
and tongue. So when they asked
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me if I wanted to be part I
jumped into it. I prayed about
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it and I said yes I do want
to be part of this ministry.
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Amen, praise the Lord. And you
have, I know you have a powerful
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story. We're going to get back
a little more in just a moment
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with He Returns Ministry
and you can tell us a little bit
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about your background as well.
But James Castillo, Sabbath
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Keepers Motorcycle Ministry Vice
President. And I'm familiar with
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this group because I was
introduced to this many years
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ago. I was holding an
evangelistic series in
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Northwest Arkansas and one
of the guys that you and I know
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was wearing...he came to church
every Sabbath with this vest on
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and I was so interested because
I did not know at the time that
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Adventism even had a motorcycle
ministry and Sabbath Keepers was
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the first that I was introduced
to. But tell us a little bit
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about yourself, where
you're from, your background.
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Okay, well I'm originally from
California. Right now I live in
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Northern California right at the
base of Mt. Shasta. We have our
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local chapter there in Redding,
California. Sabbath Keepers
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began in 1994 with a little
group of people in Hollister,
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California. It's also known as
the home of the American biker.
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So we had three people there
that saw this event going on
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in the church. They were sitting
there going we're not going to
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get them to come to the church
so we're going to take the
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church to them. And so they
dressed up like bikers and they
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went out there and started
handing out literature and found
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out how well that works so
they came up with this Sabbath
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Keepers Motorcycle Ministry
and it took off. I mean in
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California it developed a lot of
chapters there, Washington and
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now we're I think 50 chapters.
We have some in Canada and also
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a chapter in New South Wales,
Australia. So we're spreading
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out. It's a lot of fun reaching
people in this crazy world of
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bikers.
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Praise the Lord, praise the Lord
I know you have a powerful story
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as well. We're going to come
back in just a few moments and
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let you tell us a little bit
about that biker life, you and
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Pete both. You and Pete
both Both James and Pete were
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previous bikers in the actually
gang and we're going to talk
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about that in just a little bit.
So you can't go anywhere. Don't
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change the channel. But I want
to come back to you Sinuhe. I
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know we're going to talk a
little bit more about Sabbath
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Keepers Motorcycle Ministry
as well but some people might be
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saying well there's Sabbath
Keepers Motorcycle Ministry and
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then there's Adventist
Motorcycle Ministry. I know
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there's probably some
similarities in the sense of
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your commission, your mission
and all that the Lord is leading
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you guys to do Let's talk a
little bit about what sets you
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guys apart, what's special about
Adventist Motorcycle Ministries
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and what God is leading you
guys to do specifically for the
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mission of taking the gospel,
the three angels' messages to
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the world and
specifically to these bikers.
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Well yes as you said there's a
different motorcycle ministries
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within the Seventh-day Adventist
Church. We have another one in
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Texas that's called the
Three Angels' Messengers. I'll
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probably hear from Sabbath
Keepers and other ministries as
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well. When I describe what
we do and what differentiates us
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from other Christian motorcycle
ministries, I'm talking also
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about other ministries as well.
You know what happens is the
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Lord gives these great ideas
about ministries to several
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people at the same time. That's
why we are several ministries
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within our church, in our
country. But when I got into
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motorcycles I didn't belong
to a motorcycle group or club
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like they did
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before. But I got into
motorcycles and I was already
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an Adventist, you know, recently
baptized. I started hanging out
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with...I used to go to this
motorcycle Knights, right, like
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bars you know with rough life
and party life. But I wasn't
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feeling comfortable because I
already knew the truth. So then
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I started looking for Christian
motorcycle groups. There is many
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plenty. And they're doing a
great work, you know, they're
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spreading the gospel as well.
But they still smoke, they get
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together in bars, they drink,
they're still out in the world
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you know. So it still didn't
satisfy me because it's not what
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I was looking for. I didn't feel
comfortable with it. So then I
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didn't know that within the
Seventh-day Adventist Church
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there was motorcycle ministries
until I started going to Houston
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Central SDA and I saw a guy
wearing a vest. It catched my
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attention. I said, what is that
guy doing here with that vest?
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And I just got closer and I read
you know his vest AMM Adventist
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Motorcycle Ministry. That was my
brother Ray Louis which is the
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national and international
president of AMM right now.
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And immediately I went up to
him and asked him how to join
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this Adventist
Motorcycle Ministry?
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Do you have to have
a motorcycle to join?
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No. That's a great question.
That's a great question because
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we have many riders but we have
also many supporters and they're
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part of the ministry as well.
And for logistics you know we
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try to ride everywhere we go.
As a matter of fact, our motto
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is Ever Ride as a Mission.
So we don't ride without being a
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mission. We're mission-oriented.
But you know it's great if you
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ride also but also we need the
support of the nonriders as well
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You know because we do
fellowship, we do ministry,
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and it's just, you
know, it's for everybody.
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Oh for sure. Amen, amen. Hey
we're talking a little bit about
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your story and how you became
a motorcyclist and you said you
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were telling me that your mother
tell us a little bit about that
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again. I just...it
caught my attention...
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Well I'm glad that my mom is
not an English speaker because
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otherwise, I'm going to be like
you are talking about me right
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now. She would not be happy.
I don't know maybe we're hearing
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we might do this interview
something in Spanish then I'll
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be careful, I'll be careful.
Yes well growing up when I was a
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teenager I always loved
motorcycles. But my mother she's
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very strong you know. I know
in the Asian culture, they have
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like tiger mother, but in the
Hispanic culture as well. So she
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said, she said don't even think
about getting a motorcycle. The
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day you get a motorcycle
you get your casket as well and
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you'll be out of this house.
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Oh wow...
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That delayed me a little bit.
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But the Lord said, You know
what I'll take care of him, Mama
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because I got a mission for him
to take my message to the world.
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To these bikers. Praise the Lord
So we're going to come back to
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you in just a few moments when
we get into the talking about
00:17:49.80\00:17:51.93
Sturgis, this major event in
just a moment. We're going to
00:17:51.97\00:17:54.80
Pete at this moment. Pete, my
brother. Have you always been a
00:17:54.84\00:17:57.04
Seventh-day Adventist?
00:17:57.07\00:17:58.41
You know I was adopted twice but
when I got adopted the second
00:17:58.44\00:18:03.04
time I was adopted by a Seventh-
day Adventist family so yes been
00:18:03.08\00:18:07.22
an Adventist for you know quite
a few years but actually joined
00:18:07.25\00:18:13.05
the military, the Air Force,
when actually I graduated high
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school and that's when I started
you know leaving the church.
00:18:16.29\00:18:20.10
So I ended up falling away from
God for 15 years and that's how
00:18:20.13\00:18:24.70
I ended up joining a motorcycle
club, or what the world calls it
00:18:24.73\00:18:30.81
motorcycle gang. So I fell away
and about four years ago that's
00:18:30.84\00:18:36.14
when you know I gave my life
back to God again. So God called
00:18:36.18\00:18:40.28
me back to, to, be with
Him and I'm glad He did. So...
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Absolutely. So I have to ask
you so you left the church for a
00:18:45.42\00:18:49.59
little while. This was
when you became involved in this
00:18:49.62\00:18:54.33
motorcycle group. How in
the world does somebody come in
00:18:54.36\00:18:58.57
contact or even get
involved in something like that?
00:18:58.60\00:19:02.74
Usually, it's a, you have to
know them. You get invited. You
00:19:02.77\00:19:08.21
can't invite yourself.
00:19:08.24\00:19:09.58
Okay, it's just like you can't
just walk up to a gang, Hey I
00:19:09.61\00:19:11.71
want to be a part of your
gang. It doesn't work like that.
00:19:11.75\00:19:14.38
No, it doesn't. So I knew
someone within that motorcycle
00:19:14.42\00:19:21.02
club and I talked to him and
he talked to me and he actually
00:19:21.06\00:19:25.23
invited me. So I got invited and
I went in and they liked me and
00:19:25.26\00:19:30.17
you had to attend every meeting
that they had, every function
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they had, because they wanted to
make sure that you're going to
00:19:32.67\00:19:36.71
be 100 percent for the club and
not just ah halfway, you know.
00:19:36.74\00:19:39.11
They want a full commitment, you
know so. And that's what they
00:19:39.14\00:19:43.75
were looking for.
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That's amazing, and, this
maybe a touchy question to ask
00:19:45.85\00:19:50.55
but I have...it just popped
into my mind. When you say fully
00:19:50.59\00:19:54.12
committed I mean what does a
gang like this do or what is the
00:19:54.16\00:20:00.76
purpose, what is the agenda.
Obviously, you're a group,
00:20:00.80\00:20:03.77
you're a gang so when you say
fully committed what does that
00:20:03.80\00:20:07.14
mean to be fully committed to
a biker gang or group like this?
00:20:07.17\00:20:11.21
So here's an example. I was in
the military for 20 years. It's
00:20:11.24\00:20:15.78
the same thing when you go
through boot camp. They put you
00:20:15.81\00:20:19.68
through boot camp. You prospect
for a whole year and you're very
00:20:19.71\00:20:24.65
committed. Whenever they
call you, they send you a text
00:20:24.69\00:20:26.99
message, you have to be out
there, no matter what day of
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the week, unless you're working
of course. If you got a job they
00:20:30.26\00:20:35.20
are okay with that. But during
your days off, soon as they send
00:20:35.23\00:20:40.70
a message, or call you or send
you a text message they want you
00:20:40.74\00:20:44.01
to be out there, you know,
working for them. So it's, it's
00:20:44.04\00:20:47.58
a rough lifestyle.
00:20:47.61\00:20:49.71
Rough lifestyle. All right, all
right. Well I'm not going to get
00:20:49.74\00:20:52.25
into too much detail. I'll leave
it at that. But that's just
00:20:52.28\00:20:55.18
fascinating to me. So I know
we're going to get into James's
00:20:55.22\00:20:58.09
story because you were also
in this previous biker lifestyle
00:20:58.12\00:21:01.39
as well. But you know there came
a time when the Lord starts to.
00:21:01.42\00:21:04.93
Were you still in the gang or a
part of the group when the Lord
00:21:04.96\00:21:08.26
was starting to speak to
you or had you already left?
00:21:08.30\00:21:11.73
Actually yeah, I was still in
the gang when God was actually
00:21:11.77\00:21:15.27
tugging my life, because you
know I was still breaking the
00:21:15.30\00:21:19.44
Sabbath but I could tell that
God was, okay, look what you're
00:21:19.47\00:21:24.25
doing, what are you doing? Do
you remember. And remember what
00:21:24.28\00:21:26.78
the Bible says you train up
a child, he'll remember these
00:21:26.82\00:21:29.65
things. And I remembered the
things that my mom had taught me
00:21:29.68\00:21:32.32
and you realize, okay God, I'm
sorry for what I've done and you
00:21:32.35\00:21:36.19
start transitioning in a slow
process. Sometimes it's a slow
00:21:36.22\00:21:40.70
process but for me, it was
a, it was a fast transition, you
00:21:40.73\00:21:46.23
know from being a club life
to living for God now. So...
00:21:46.27\00:21:51.71
So then...and we were talking
about this earlier and I told
00:21:51.74\00:21:55.31
you I was going to ask you
this question because it's just
00:21:55.34\00:21:58.08
fascinating me. You know, us,
the viewers at home who have no
00:21:58.11\00:22:02.22
clue about this particular life
style, you know, the biker club
00:22:02.25\00:22:05.62
or biker gangs. It's kind of
a common understanding that once
00:22:05.65\00:22:10.39
you get in it's not, it's
not easy to get out. You know in
00:22:10.43\00:22:15.33
fact Hollywood really soups
it up and make it feel like you
00:22:15.36\00:22:17.13
know your life's on the line
or in many cases and so I don't
00:22:17.17\00:22:19.50
know if that's the case but I
just wanted to ask you and I'll
00:22:19.53\00:22:21.60
probably ask you as well, James,
in regards to you know how do
00:22:21.64\00:22:24.77
you get out of something like
this? Is there are process or do
00:22:24.81\00:22:26.98
you just go up to your leader
and say you know hey I'm done
00:22:27.01\00:22:29.58
I'm walking away and
that's... How does that work?
00:22:29.61\00:22:32.18
One of the difference...like
James was in a 1 percent club
00:22:32.21\00:22:36.22
I was not. We fall underneath it
but I basically just told them I
00:22:36.25\00:22:42.46
said I'm giving my life to God,
I said here's my color, which is
00:22:42.49\00:22:45.09
is your cut. I says I'm done
with this lifestyle. And they
00:22:45.13\00:22:48.60
were not happy about it but
nothing they could do, you know,
00:22:48.63\00:22:52.13
it's not like the 1 percent club
It's a little bit different but
00:22:52.17\00:22:56.20
for us, it was an easy
transition kind of but I had a
00:22:56.24\00:23:03.88
lot of backlash from the club
members. You know like oh why
00:23:03.91\00:23:07.78
are you leaving us. You
disappoint us you know. That
00:23:07.82\00:23:10.79
kind of stuff but I know I
planted a seed because there's
still one brother that I
00:23:10.82\00:23:14.32
still, talk to there and so
praise the Lord that you know
00:23:14.36\00:23:18.23
God is still working in
his heart. So it wasn't an easy
00:23:18.26\00:23:22.33
transition but with
God anything is possible...
00:23:22.36\00:23:25.40
Amen, brother. I love that.
I love that. So we're going to
00:23:25.43\00:23:28.27
come back to you in just a few
moments because I know you're
00:23:28.30\00:23:29.80
teaming up with these guys with
this He Returns Ministry and
00:23:29.84\00:23:34.01
this big event that's going
to be happening in Sturgis soon.
00:23:34.04\00:23:36.44
So we're going to come back to
those details. James my brother.
00:23:36.48\00:23:39.11
(Yeah) He's got me intrigued now
this 1 percent club. I got to
00:23:39.15\00:23:43.05
know a little bit
about something about that.
00:23:43.08\00:23:44.75
But first of all let's go back
to...let's talk a little bit
00:23:44.79\00:23:47.89
about your background because
you also were very much deeply
00:23:47.92\00:23:52.19
involved in a biker...Do you...
do the bikers call it a biker
00:23:52.23\00:23:56.97
gang. What's the language that
you use to describe what you
00:23:57.00\00:23:59.87
were part of.
00:23:59.90\00:24:01.24
We're a club. (A club)
Okay there's a...you have riding
00:24:01.27\00:24:08.24
organizations, you have
associations, you have clubs,
00:24:08.28\00:24:12.61
then you have one percenters.
And when you...okay I'm going to
00:24:12.65\00:24:20.56
start from the beginning. I
started off as a youngster just
00:24:20.59\00:24:23.36
riding dirt bikes. I got
fascinated with motorcycles in
00:24:23.39\00:24:28.40
eighth grade. Our arts
teacher got a guy from the local
00:24:28.43\00:24:32.37
Kawasaki dealership to come and
we had a motorcycle repair class
00:24:32.40\00:24:35.30
in eighth grade. We had hands-on
stuff there. So through high
00:24:35.34\00:24:41.84
school I met some people, some
outlaw clubs and the brothers
00:24:41.88\00:24:49.05
kind of took us underwing
and You know you meet people and
00:24:49.08\00:24:52.79
then you go work for people and
the next thing you know you're
00:24:52.82\00:24:55.06
wrapped up deep in everything.
The darkness really...
00:24:55.09\00:24:59.36
So this isn't something that
happens kind of overnight. It's
00:24:59.39\00:25:00.80
a gradual...
00:25:00.83\00:25:03.20
It's a process like Pete said.
You have to know people and they
00:25:03.23\00:25:07.00
want to know you. If you're
going to be dedicated because in
00:25:07.04\00:25:11.67
the one percenter world it's a
lot different than all the other
00:25:11.71\00:25:13.07
clubs. You basically marry the
mob. You no longer own anything
00:25:13.11\00:25:20.42
in your life. So I got involved
with a little club in a little
00:25:20.45\00:25:27.42
town called Livermore. It was
called Satan's Legion. It was a
00:25:27.46\00:25:31.43
little local club and that got
me...you know when I read the
00:25:31.46\00:25:36.56
story in Mark about the demoniac
and what's their name, Legion,
00:25:36.60\00:25:41.50
for many, I went whoa. And I was
in a jail cell when I read that
00:25:41.54\00:25:45.87
the first time and then it
started taking on more reality
00:25:45.91\00:25:52.21
in my life. Later I got involved
with a national club called the
00:25:52.25\00:25:57.22
Banshees where I started off
in that club as the road captain
00:25:57.25\00:26:01.92
worked my way up to local
president and then I became the
00:26:01.96\00:26:05.19
national president. And the
way I got out is my wife used to
00:26:05.23\00:26:11.43
call me you're just
mean. And that's how I got out.
00:26:11.47\00:26:14.60
I just told everybody
00:26:14.64\00:26:15.97
this is how it's going to be.
And because of the way I lived
00:26:16.00\00:26:19.77
back then nobody wanted
to challenge that because
00:26:19.81\00:26:23.18
I was a very bad person. I
spent a lot of prison time.
00:26:23.21\00:26:28.25
I gotcha, I gotcha. So it would
be safe to say that the old
00:26:28.28\00:26:33.25
James was somebody
you didn't want to cross.
00:26:33.29\00:26:36.69
That guy's dead now. As my wife
she tells me, Is your dragon
00:26:36.73\00:26:40.16
dead or is it just bury it in
the ice? in the snow? I said now
00:26:40.20\00:26:43.83
he's dead. Yeah.
00:26:43.87\00:26:45.27
That's amazing, that's amazing.
So how...So then now how do you
00:26:45.30\00:26:47.40
see you know were you a part of
these gangs when God got ahold
00:26:47.44\00:26:51.87
of your life or
was it, you were out.
00:26:51.91\00:26:55.01
I got out of the club but
was still living that life style
00:26:55.04\00:26:58.31
because I had all these
connections with people. There
00:26:58.35\00:27:03.15
was a, in 1999 I mean I
was involved in meth and meth
00:27:03.18\00:27:10.03
production and got arrested the
third time for this situation.
00:27:10.06\00:27:14.43
And my wife got arrested with me
and it was somebody in the jail
00:27:14.46\00:27:19.33
that started talking to me about
Christ and helped me out. And I
00:27:19.37\00:27:24.01
just want to tell you a little
miracle that happened. (Sure,
00:27:24.04\00:27:26.64
sure). We we're 27 days
into my wife and I being in the
00:27:26.68\00:27:31.45
Sacramento County Jail and this
guy Steven keeps talking to me
00:27:31.48\00:27:33.72
about prayer and God helping me.
I wake up in the middle of the
00:27:33.75\00:27:36.75
night and here's this kid face
down on the concrete slab in our
00:27:36.79\00:27:41.02
cell just praying his heart out.
And that's when the Holy Spirit
00:27:41.06\00:27:43.39
touched my heart and said, It's
time. (Wow) So I got down on the
00:27:43.43\00:27:47.60
floor and I prayed with
him. Said God you know I know I
00:27:47.63\00:27:51.67
messed up but Faye doesn't
deserve to be here. I just pray
00:27:51.70\00:27:55.30
that you would get her out
of here. She'd never been in
00:27:55.34\00:27:57.51
trouble in her life. Simple
prayer. Next morning they let us
00:27:57.54\00:28:01.61
out for day room time. I'm
heading straight for the phone.
00:28:01.64\00:28:05.08
I'm going to call my house
because Steven keeps talking to
00:28:05.11\00:28:08.22
me about faith. So I'm jumping
out on faith. Faye got out of
00:28:08.25\00:28:11.12
jail last night. (Wow!) I called
my house and guess who answered
00:28:11.15\00:28:15.39
the phone. Yeah. She said
why are you calling here. I said
00:28:15.42\00:28:20.60
last night I prayed you'd get
out of jail and she said, I got
00:28:20.63\00:28:24.47
out last night. I just walked in
the door. Right when she walked
00:28:24.50\00:28:28.40
in the door, the phone rang.
I looked at Steven and he's
00:28:28.44\00:28:32.27
looking at me and I'm going,
all right, I am going to start
00:28:32.31\00:28:34.58
listening to what you're saying.
And the process that's happened
00:28:34.61\00:28:38.38
after that is just, I mean,
books could be written on the
00:28:38.41\00:28:43.12
miracles...
00:28:43.15\00:28:44.49
It makes you wonder
why Steven was in there.
00:28:44.52\00:28:45.85
Oh well I can tell you about
Steven. He was there for me.
00:28:45.89\00:28:49.16
Because when he told me why he
was arrested I'm going why are
00:28:49.19\00:28:52.76
you even here?
It was just amazing.
00:28:52.79\00:28:55.26
It was a miracle. It was
a divine appointment that
00:28:55.30\00:28:57.47
God had just for James. (Amen)
00:28:57.50\00:28:58.83
Wow! Praise the Lord.
00:28:59.60\00:29:00.94
And we're still in touch.
00:29:00.97\00:29:02.30
Praise the Lord, that's amazing.
So then how did you get involved
00:29:02.34\00:29:05.44
with Sabbath
Keepers Motorcycle Ministry?
00:29:05.47\00:29:07.34
So after I did my prison time
I got paroled in 2003 and we
00:29:07.38\00:29:13.42
became involved with 3ABN.
We were representatives at the
00:29:13.45\00:29:18.39
Redwood Camp meeting for
them there through a couple
00:29:18.42\00:29:20.92
that used to do a
00:29:20.96\00:29:23.16
lot with Danny way back
then. And so we drove the called
00:29:23.19\00:29:30.03
the Honey Wagon
00:29:30.07\00:29:31.40
the pumper truck and so we were
doing the booth, putting the
00:29:31.43\00:29:34.37
literature out for 3ABN
and other literature there and
00:29:34.40\00:29:37.44
Sabbath Keepers had a booth
there. I didn't know anything
00:29:37.47\00:29:40.44
about them but my wife started
talking to the girl that was
00:29:40.48\00:29:42.81
representing them there and my
wife told her, she said, I told
00:29:42.84\00:29:46.98
her that you'll get a bike
again It's in your blood. So she
00:29:47.02\00:29:51.75
traded information with them
and I kept getting these emails
00:29:51.79\00:29:54.69
rapid fire, hey come to
this event, come to this event.
00:29:54.72\00:29:58.73
I didn't want to get back
involved with bikers again
00:29:58.76\00:30:02.16
because I knew where it just
kept taking me back. And as he
00:30:02.20\00:30:04.93
mentioned there's a lot of
"Christian" ministries out there
00:30:04.97\00:30:08.10
but they're still drinking and
smoking and doing the life style
00:30:08.14\00:30:11.91
Finally, an event came along
where I said, Okay we'll go.
00:30:11.94\00:30:17.08
And it was a very special event.
The guy that they were doing the
00:30:17.11\00:30:22.88
fundraiser for the lost his
home, lost a job, lost his home,
00:30:22.92\00:30:27.89
and then his daughter committed
suicide. And so I said let's go
00:30:27.92\00:30:31.33
check this out, see what they're
doing with these people. We met
00:30:31.36\00:30:35.30
the people there. They were
genuine Seventh-day Adventists.
00:30:35.33\00:30:38.67
That's how I learned about
the Adventist message in prison.
00:30:38.70\00:30:40.87
I decided to give my life to
that mission and no turning back
00:30:40.90\00:30:47.14
So we got involved with Sabbath
Keepers Ministry I think in 2009
00:30:47.18\00:30:52.15
or 2010 and we've gone from just
our little local chaplain to I
00:30:52.18\00:30:58.49
was the local president. Now
I'm the national vice president.
00:30:58.52\00:31:00.86
Wow, brother how powerful!
00:31:00.89\00:31:02.72
And so you know just amazing how
God'll take that chunk of coal
00:31:02.76\00:31:06.43
and start to fashion
it for a jewel for Him.
00:31:06.46\00:31:09.70
Absolutely, absolutely. So just
out of curiosity. How much time
00:31:09.73\00:31:13.34
out of the year do you guys
spend on the road witnessing on
00:31:13.37\00:31:16.34
behalf of your ministries?
00:31:16.37\00:31:17.71
Well we as we said every ride
for us is a mission so we get
00:31:17.74\00:31:23.35
together with our local chapters
and we organize events. We
00:31:23.38\00:31:28.08
organize you know rides, get
together and every opportunity
00:31:28.12\00:31:31.25
you know that we have, if
we encounter somebody in a gas
00:31:31.29\00:31:36.86
station we are armed with you
know books and literature here
00:31:36.89\00:31:41.53
As a matter of fact, I want to
show you really quick, we have
00:31:41.56\00:31:43.77
this is one of the two that we
are distributing, over there is
00:31:43.80\00:31:48.17
a Steps to Jesus but it's a
motorcyclist's edition. It's
00:31:48.20\00:31:51.94
called The Ride of Your Life.
We share thousands of books like
00:31:51.97\00:31:57.18
this in every motorcycle rally
that we go. And we try to do it
00:31:57.21\00:32:01.98
all. You know one thing that
we do is we partner with the
00:32:02.02\00:32:05.59
local churches. We help other
Ministries. So we support all
00:32:05.62\00:32:10.13
the ministries. We do Drive
Through Prayer over in Houston
00:32:10.16\00:32:13.90
We are part as well and support
the prison ministry in anything
00:32:13.93\00:32:19.23
and everything that we can do.
00:32:19.27\00:32:21.54
Amen. Wow. And so He Returns
Ministry, you're with He Returns
00:32:21.57\00:32:26.07
and you said you guys are all
about the three angels' messages
00:32:26.11\00:32:28.41
but do you specifically do
something similar. Do you ride
00:32:28.44\00:32:32.48
and share with He Returns
or is it a different purpose?
00:32:32.51\00:32:38.15
He Returns is a different
ministry in what they do. Most
00:32:38.19\00:32:40.76
of our ministries, we do a
lot of publishing, especially
00:32:40.79\00:32:45.03
overseas in South Africa and
India. We just partnered up. So
00:32:45.06\00:32:49.70
a lot of literature that we're
involved with. Matter of fact,
00:32:49.73\00:32:54.50
one of our members is actually
working for Streams of Light. He
00:32:54.54\00:32:56.91
is in charge of the publishing
clearance house there and so
00:32:56.94\00:33:02.68
we're actually going to be
getting our Great Controversy
00:33:02.71\00:33:05.68
book through them, actually.
00:33:05.71\00:33:07.15
I'm very familiar with
Streams of Light. Oleg is...
00:33:07.18\00:33:11.19
Oleg, yeah, yeah. Yes so when
all this started we got contact
00:33:11.22\00:33:15.19
with Streams of Light and talked
with the people there and I know
00:33:15.22\00:33:20.56
that they're going be publishing
over three million a month of
00:33:20.60\00:33:26.13
Great Controversy because I
believe last year at ASI they
00:33:26.17\00:33:30.27
want to have a billion Great
Controversies spread across the
00:33:30.31\00:33:34.08
world by I think what was it
by 2024 or something like that.
00:33:34.11\00:33:37.11
So God put it upon my heart that
that's what we need to do to
00:33:37.15\00:33:42.28
these bikers up in
Sturgis, South Dakota.
00:33:42.32\00:33:44.92
Amen, amen, amen. And so the
same thing with you James. Would
00:33:44.95\00:33:49.86
Sabbath Keepers Motorcycle
Ministry. How often or how long
00:33:49.89\00:33:52.69
are you guys out on
the road you know sharing?
00:33:52.73\00:33:55.20
Well you know for every season
there's a purpose and so you
00:33:55.23\00:34:00.34
know in the wintertime basically
what we do is we plan when
00:34:00.37\00:34:04.67
springtime rolls around we have
our events planned in different
00:34:04.71\00:34:08.54
parts of the nation or different
parts of the world and we get
00:34:08.58\00:34:14.28
out there to those events. Like
in March there's a Daytona rally
00:34:14.32\00:34:18.52
So we have a local chapter in
Florida and Rick Thames who you
00:34:18.55\00:34:23.73
mentioned he travels there with
the trailer and his bike because
00:34:23.76\00:34:27.40
somebody has to bring all that
literature. So Daytona, we have
00:34:27.43\00:34:32.77
Hollister, Street Vibrations
in Reno, Las Vegas. On the west
00:34:32.80\00:34:38.14
coast there's a lot of rally's.
In Texas, Oklahoma, Arkansas,
00:34:38.17\00:34:44.11
Bikes, Blues, and Barbecues.
I mean wherever there's a biker
00:34:44.15\00:34:47.35
event you're going to find
one of our ministries there.
00:34:47.38\00:34:52.22
Literature evangelists, that's
what we are. You know and so
00:34:52.25\00:34:56.26
we're blessed to get there and
just...There are so many people
00:34:56.29\00:34:59.06
right now that are asking
questions, what is going on in
00:34:59.09\00:35:03.03
What's going on with this crazy
world, man? You got to know some
00:35:03.06\00:35:06.20
bikers are asking
that question too...
00:35:06.23\00:35:07.90
Yeah because you know I think
a lot of us have this idea that
00:35:07.94\00:35:11.41
you know bikers are just
hardened you know guys that just
00:35:11.44\00:35:13.98
don't care about anything but
their bikes and their you know
00:35:14.01\00:35:16.85
their drugs and their drinking
and alcohol and their fighting.
00:35:16.88\00:35:19.98
You just got to think they're
just rough yet their humans just
00:35:20.02\00:35:23.72
like all of us and I got
to believe that they're asking
00:35:23.75\00:35:27.46
questions too. What's going on?
What's going to happen in the
00:35:27.49\00:35:30.73
future?
00:35:30.76\00:35:32.19
You know what's interesting
about Sturgis...I like the idea
00:35:32.23\00:35:38.10
of a fisherman. Some people
stand on the shore on the bank
00:35:38.13\00:35:42.14
and fish you know so that's in
the booth. Some people are in a
00:35:42.17\00:35:45.71
boat. I look at like pastors
in the church. But I'm a fly
00:35:45.74\00:35:49.64
fisherman. I like to be out
in the stream of things and so I
00:35:49.68\00:35:52.35
go around and I talk to people.
Vendors are a captive audience
00:35:52.38\00:35:56.82
because they're right
there. They got to be with their
00:35:56.85\00:36:00.96
business right there. And you
know I'll talk to them. But some
00:36:00.99\00:36:04.13
of the majors like the Halls
Angels have big, big things
00:36:04.16\00:36:07.86
there at Sturgis. You can get
into conversations with the guys
00:36:07.90\00:36:11.93
there that they know Bible stuff
you know. Um like myself. I was
00:36:11.97\00:36:17.41
raised as a Roman Catholic. We
never really read the Bible when
00:36:17.44\00:36:20.44
we were kids. We went to
catechism and all but when
00:36:20.48\00:36:24.75
you're in prison somebody's
going to hand you a Bible and
00:36:24.78\00:36:27.92
you'll read through it you know
and a lot of people know it.
00:36:27.95\00:36:32.72
These guys have read these
stories and like I got into a
00:36:32.75\00:36:35.22
conversation with one of
the guys at the Colorado chapter
00:36:35.26\00:36:39.19
and started to talking to him
about Daniel and the prophecies
00:36:39.23\00:36:43.00
of Daniel and he knew what I
was talking about. Then somebody
00:36:43.03\00:36:47.37
came and interrupted our
conversation. He had to go but
00:36:47.40\00:36:49.74
well, seeds were planted. And
that's what it's all about. It's
00:36:50.01\00:36:54.54
just planting seeds.
00:36:54.58\00:36:55.91
You guys are not just about
planting seeds. I think you're
00:36:55.94\00:36:58.31
about to plant an entire field
when you go to Sturgis. So Let's
00:36:58.35\00:37:02.02
talk Sturgis now. What is
the wo...We've talked about it,
00:37:02.05\00:37:04.82
we've mentioned it a few times.
For some of our viewers at home
00:37:04.85\00:37:07.19
they don't have a clue what
Sturgis is. I didn't know what
00:37:07.22\00:37:09.39
Sturgis was until just a
few minutes ago before this
00:37:09.42\00:37:12.26
interview. So what is Sturgis
and what is God leading you guys
00:37:12.29\00:37:16.56
to do there?
00:37:16.60\00:37:17.93
Well I'll start to tell you
that it's the biggest motorcycle
00:37:17.97\00:37:21.67
rally and you mentioned in the
nation, probably in the world.
00:37:21.70\00:37:24.27
What attendance is in excess of
half a million people over there
00:37:24.31\00:37:28.78
Yeah, sometimes close to a
million depending on the...
00:37:28.81\00:37:32.41
Yeah. In Texas, we have the Lone
Star rally and that is half a
00:37:32.45\00:37:35.52
million people on the island of
Galveston so Sturgis maybe will
00:37:35.55\00:37:37.72
be close to a million. Imagine
a million bikers, a million
00:37:37.75\00:37:42.99
assistant, probably have a
million bikers in this little
00:37:43.02\00:37:45.86
town. So some people have asked
us you know what it's like, what
00:37:45.89\00:37:49.56
it's like to be there. You want
to have an image of Sodom and
00:37:49.60\00:37:53.27
Gomorrah you go to Sturgis. So
it's not for the faint-hearted.
00:37:53.30\00:37:55.94
Clothing is optional,
right James. (Optional, yes)
00:37:55.97\00:38:00.21
Wow. You said
clothing is optional. Oh wow.
00:38:02.54\00:38:08.22
So it's a mission, it's a
mission field. So James and the
00:38:08.25\00:38:11.65
Sabbath Keepers, they
have been there continuously
00:38:11.69\00:38:13.56
for the past years.
00:38:13.59\00:38:15.09
Past seven years. This'll
be our eighth year in a row.
00:38:15.12\00:38:16.69
Wow. These are events that
you would have...that you have
00:38:16.73\00:38:20.33
probably I'm sure attended
Sturgis many more times even
00:38:20.36\00:38:23.03
before...
00:38:23.06\00:38:24.40
Oh yeah. The first time I
went there I thought it was like
00:38:24.43\00:38:26.50
motorcycle world. I mean it's
like...I looked around and it's
00:38:26.53\00:38:30.71
like there's no cars.
00:38:30.74\00:38:34.08
Cars, yeah. I
can see motorcycles.
00:38:34.11\00:38:35.44
Motorcycles, yeah.
00:38:35.48\00:38:36.81
I could imagine I-80 leading
up to that event. Just all
00:38:36.85\00:38:40.18
motorcycles that major...
00:38:40.22\00:38:41.82
90 and 80 and all
00:38:41.85\00:38:43.42
90 and...oh my goodness. That's
amazing, that's amazing. So
00:38:43.45\00:38:46.35
you're going to be going to
Sturgis. When is this event now?
00:38:46.39\00:38:50.93
It's August 4th through the 15th
00:38:50.96\00:38:53.76
August 5th through the 14th.
00:38:53.80\00:38:55.33
Okay. And so let's talk about
what specifically God is going
00:38:55.36\00:38:59.07
lead you guys to do when
you get there and maybe talk a
00:38:59.10\00:39:02.40
little bit about this event and
what you've seen and what you've
00:39:02.44\00:39:05.27
experienced when
you've done this in the past.
00:39:05.31\00:39:07.18
Sure so before we talk about
the Sturgis, I actually met Juan
00:39:07.21\00:39:13.31
Santos, he's from Adventist
Motorcycle Ministry, at ASI
00:39:13.35\00:39:17.02
rally last year. And I was
walking around and I see this
00:39:17.05\00:39:20.29
guy you know wearing a vest.
I was like I know what that is.
00:39:20.32\00:39:23.22
So I ran up to him. I said hey
Brother I didn't know there was
00:39:23.26\00:39:26.29
an Adventist Motorcycle Ministry
So we got to talking. I got his
00:39:26.33\00:39:31.00
business card and from there
I didn't talk to him for a whole
00:39:31.03\00:39:33.77
year. In January of this year
I was sitting in my car and the
00:39:33.80\00:39:38.17
Holy Spirit was saying you need
to go to Sturgis this year. He
00:39:38.21\00:39:42.48
said, you used to live that life
style, you know how to talk to
00:39:42.51\00:39:45.68
them, you know how to approach
them. He said you need to go
00:39:45.71\00:39:48.35
witness to them. I said that
is a good idea. So that day when
00:39:48.38\00:39:55.52
the Holy Spirit spoke to me
I actually, I believe I texted
00:39:55.56\00:39:59.19
Juan that day. I said, Hey I
would like to talk to you about
00:39:59.23\00:40:01.93
a ministry idea. I said, Sturgis
is coming up you know in eight
00:40:01.96\00:40:06.57
months. I said, Let's do
something. Let's collaborate as
00:40:06.60\00:40:09.34
a ministry. So he said yes. And
then he got a hold of James and
00:40:09.37\00:40:15.21
we got Sabbath Keeper Motorcycle
Ministry, which I didn't know
00:40:15.24\00:40:17.51
about as well. And we ended
up getting together with Zoom
00:40:17.55\00:40:21.88
meeting, phone calls,
telegram, lots of messages and
00:40:21.92\00:40:27.19
collaborating on what we're
going to do, fasting and praying
00:40:27.22\00:40:28.56
as well. And God is leading the
way. So our plan is to hand out
00:40:28.59\00:40:34.10
thousands of Great Controversies
and Steps to Jesus to everyone
00:40:34.13\00:40:38.33
out there you know because
everyone needs to be reached
00:40:38.37\00:40:41.04
from poor too old to gang
members whatever lifestyle that
00:40:41.07\00:40:46.51
they been living in everyone
needs to be reached because the
00:40:46.54\00:40:50.38
Gospel has to be preached to
every nation, tribe, and tongue
00:40:50.41\00:40:54.08
so that the end can come. And
that's what we want to do. And
00:40:54.12\00:40:57.02
you don't hear too much about
the biker life you know and
00:40:57.05\00:41:00.76
witnessing to them. I mean
not when I was an Adventist.
00:41:00.79\00:41:05.66
You know, actually, I still am
an Adventist but you don't hear
00:41:05.69\00:41:09.60
about it too much you know. So
that's what our plan is and so
00:41:09.63\00:41:13.77
us collaborating together that's
what we plan to do. So donations
00:41:13.80\00:41:18.71
and volunteers as well. But if
you are going to volunteer, just
00:41:18.74\00:41:21.68
remember what Brother Sinuhe
said about Sodom and Gomorrah
00:41:21.71\00:41:27.18
It is not for the faint heart.
So you have to be ground rooted
00:41:27.22\00:41:32.82
if you're going to end
up volunteering to go there.
00:41:32.85\00:41:35.19
It's like the Nineveh, you know
the Nineveh for mission You know
00:41:35.22\00:41:40.76
Some of us come from that world
and some of us are reluctant to
00:41:40.80\00:41:44.70
go back, right? But that's our
Nineveh. The Lord is sending us
00:41:44.73\00:41:46.87
there.
00:41:46.90\00:41:48.60
That's amazing, that's amazing.
So if you don't mind let me see
00:41:48.64\00:41:51.57
this book here for a moment. So
this is the Steps to Jesus. So
00:41:51.61\00:41:55.74
for those of you who may not
be familiar with this book, of
00:41:55.78\00:41:57.45
course this is the biker version
of Steps to Christ written by
00:41:57.48\00:42:01.62
Ellen G. White. This book
is powerful. A little over 100
00:42:01.65\00:42:05.15
pages, right at 100 pages, 120,
125 pages. This book changed my
00:42:05.19\00:42:09.39
whole perspective on living for
Jesus Christ, what it meant to
00:42:09.42\00:42:13.13
have a personal daily
relationship with Him.
00:42:13.16\00:42:15.00
That's why it's called Steps...
The original version Steps to
00:42:15.03\00:42:17.77
Christ. This one you know
Steps to Jesus. This is genius.
00:42:17.80\00:42:20.64
Because this right here is going
to lead, whoever reads this book
00:42:20.67\00:42:24.57
it's going to lead them into
a personal relationship with
00:42:24.61\00:42:28.11
Christ. We can have all of the
prophecies in our mind, all the
00:42:28.14\00:42:32.71
time frames and all of the proof
texts for this and that, but if
00:42:32.75\00:42:34.92
you don't have a personal
relationship with Jesus none of
00:42:34.95\00:42:37.39
that stuff matters right. And
so the fact that you guys are
00:42:37.42\00:42:39.89
handing this out is neat.
This is the very first book ever
00:42:39.92\00:42:42.66
given to me when I was first
being introduced to Seventh-day
00:42:42.69\00:42:45.89
Adventists and I went home
actually planning to disprove
00:42:45.93\00:42:50.17
Ellen White as a prophet. I said
Oh, she's not a prophet. You
00:42:50.20\00:42:54.17
know So the pastor gives me
Steps to Christ. Surely if she's
00:42:54.20\00:42:56.17
a false the prophet you'll find
something wrong in this book.
00:42:56.20\00:42:58.67
You know read it. I took
it home. I think it was by the
00:42:58.71\00:43:01.24
third chapter I was just like
Whoa. This woman has to be a
00:43:01.28\00:43:05.28
prophet. And the more and more
I read I found myself just being
00:43:05.31\00:43:08.75
drawn more and more and more to
Jesus. So these are the kind of
00:43:08.78\00:43:11.72
books, this is one of the books
you're going to be handing out
00:43:11.75\00:43:13.69
when you go to Sturgis. They're
going to be putting thousands
00:43:13.72\00:43:16.26
and thousands of copies in these
roughened, hard bikers hands.
00:43:16.29\00:43:20.63
And I have to just ask you
guys you've done this before
00:43:20.66\00:43:23.77
obviously at some of these
different rallies. Do you ever
00:43:23.80\00:43:25.87
have any like negative
experiences when you go to hand
00:43:25.90\00:43:29.70
it to them. I'm sure some
of them are just like puff you
00:43:29.74\00:43:32.27
know. Chuckles.
00:43:32.31\00:43:34.14
I could tell you just two years
ago when we were at Daytona
00:43:34.18\00:43:38.28
rally sometimes you'll try to
hand someone a book and they'll
00:43:38.31\00:43:42.58
say no I'm good. And the Lord
gave me this return. Don't you
00:43:42.62\00:43:46.25
want to be better? And the guy
turned around and he said, Okay
00:43:46.29\00:43:50.89
I'll take it. You know and
so I started using that and it's
00:43:50.93\00:43:54.23
amazing how many more people
just took the book. And so and
00:43:54.26\00:43:59.30
that's also the first book I
read of the Adventist book in
00:43:59.33\00:44:03.71
prison in Folsom State Prison
that before I even knew about
00:44:03.74\00:44:06.11
Seventh-day Adventists I read
that book and it was missing
00:44:06.14\00:44:08.38
pages but I was like fascinated
with this writing. Then when I
00:44:08.41\00:44:13.31
was introduced to the
Adventist message and the Great
00:44:13.35\00:44:16.42
Controversy. That changed my
whole view on what I learned as
00:44:16.45\00:44:22.02
a Roman Catholic kid.
00:44:22.06\00:44:23.39
Okay so the Great Controversy
now, let's just talk about that
00:44:23.43\00:44:26.59
one because you're going to also
by handing out Great Controversy
00:44:26.63\00:44:28.76
Okay, this is basically
the...You want to slide that
00:44:28.80\00:44:32.80
down here to me. This is
basically...God gave Mrs. White
this book. This was
00:44:32.83\00:44:37.61
the last of what's called
the Great Conflict Series or the
00:44:37.64\00:44:40.18
Conflict of the Ages Series.
It's basically a commentary on
00:44:40.21\00:44:45.01
the book of Revelation and from
the time of John on the Island
00:44:45.05\00:44:47.52
of Patmos all the way through
the church ages all the way down
00:44:47.55\00:44:50.19
to even beyond the second coming
of Christ and to the New Earth
00:44:50.22\00:44:53.99
and so on. This book is, I mean
I can't even...I don't even know
00:44:54.02\00:44:57.73
if I can find the words. Hey
there have been so many people
00:44:57.76\00:45:00.30
whose lives have been
transformed by reading this book
00:45:00.33\00:45:03.13
because it's not only a great
book of history. It's a book
00:45:03.16\00:45:06.13
that literally draws you to
the prophetic text draws you to
00:45:06.17\00:45:10.07
Christ through the prophetic
text and it helps in a great
00:45:10.11\00:45:13.68
detailed manner to prepare us
and to inform us about what is
00:45:13.71\00:45:17.48
happening right now, what
Christ is doing right now in the
00:45:17.51\00:45:20.52
heavenly sanctuary above and how
we should prepare for His soon
00:45:20.55\00:45:24.29
return and it also gives us all
of the prophetic details of how
00:45:24.32\00:45:27.59
the final events are going to
unfold in a very detailed manner
00:45:27.62\00:45:30.63
from now all the way until the
end of time. So I could imagine
00:45:30.66\00:45:35.66
there's a lot...just the title
alone, The Great Controversy,
00:45:35.70\00:45:40.60
it's just captivating. It's a
great, I mean they should make a
00:45:40.64\00:45:44.57
movie out of it. I know they
have some movies out there but a
00:45:44.61\00:45:47.58
big, big production should
be done of this book. It's
00:45:47.61\00:45:50.25
fantastic.
00:45:50.28\00:45:51.61
Again, three years ago when the
COVID thing started and liberty
00:45:51.65\00:45:55.38
of conscience started to be
threatened, the Lord gave me
00:45:55.42\00:45:59.32
that little entering wedge to
hand out that book. I put a book
00:45:59.35\00:46:03.69
marker in, I mean I took a lot
of them and put that in the page
00:46:03.73\00:46:06.83
there, and I just would open up
and I would ask the people who
00:46:06.86\00:46:09.16
would come to the booth, do you
think the title of this chapter
00:46:09.20\00:46:12.83
is relevant for the time
we're living in. And they go
00:46:12.87\00:46:15.90
absolutely. I said, let me tell
you when this book was written.
00:46:15.94\00:46:18.17
And when I tell them the date
they're like oh I got to read
00:46:18.21\00:46:21.71
that. I said you should just
read these last 10 chapters. You
00:46:21.74\00:46:24.81
will want to read the rest of it
00:46:24.85\00:46:26.75
That's right brother. That's
right. Yeah, because you know I
00:46:26.78\00:46:29.48
think the first half of the book
or so a little bit more than the
00:46:29.52\00:46:31.79
first half is just a powerful
history walking us through the
00:46:31.82\00:46:35.02
time of the fall of Jerusalem in
70 A.D. all the way through the
00:46:35.06\00:46:38.43
dark ages, those 1260 years of
papal reign and all of you know
00:46:38.46\00:46:46.30
persecution that's happening
there. But I agree with you man.
00:46:46.33\00:46:48.80
Those last 10 chapters are
just whew (yes). It's a powerful
00:46:48.84\00:46:51.77
book. If you haven't read
The Great Controversy my friends
00:46:51.81\00:46:55.21
get you a copy of The Great
Controversy because that's what
00:46:55.24\00:46:58.31
these guys are going to be
handing out when they go to
00:46:58.35\00:47:00.02
Sturgis. And so what are some
stories or some reactions? Have
00:47:00.05\00:47:04.25
you had anyone at the rallies
or someone that you have shared
00:47:04.29\00:47:07.32
this with that have responded
to you in regards to reading the
00:47:07.36\00:47:11.29
content?
00:47:11.33\00:47:12.66
In the Lone Star rally,
you know we have many, many _
00:47:12.69\00:47:15.56
and when we went there we got
a booth right in front of the
00:47:15.60\00:47:19.70
stage. You know they're blasting
hard rock music like almost 24/7
00:47:19.73\00:47:24.74
for four days, right? So we
thought oh we got the worst spot
00:47:24.77\00:47:29.14
to be. But actually, it turned
out to be a blessing. And to the
00:47:29.18\00:47:34.52
left there was a vape and smoke
you know dispensary and to the
00:47:34.55\00:47:41.79
right was a jewelry, biker
jewelry and injury and stuff
00:47:41.82\00:47:45.49
like that so we were right in
the middle. And we were handing
00:47:45.53\00:47:48.56
out these books and the people
from the booths, they were mad
00:47:48.60\00:47:51.73
at us because the people kept
you know leaving those books
00:47:51.77\00:47:54.87
over there in their places. But
the Holy Spirit is the One who
00:47:54.90\00:47:59.27
does the work you know. And
on the mornings, Sunday morning,
00:47:59.31\00:48:04.58
they do worship over there, they
do worship on the stage because
00:48:04.61\00:48:08.42
they let the Christian
ministries take over and do
00:48:08.45\00:48:10.45
worship. And this guy comes
to the stage and he says I just
00:48:10.49\00:48:15.86
encountered this book you know
yesterday and he starts reading
00:48:15.89\00:48:20.50
pages from the Steps to Jesus
in the stage in front of those
00:48:20.53\00:48:24.70
thousands of bikers. (Wow!) And
he asked us to come in and to
00:48:24.73\00:48:30.31
pray with them. (Amen)
00:48:30.34\00:48:31.67
That's amazing. So you're seeing
not only are seeds being sewn
00:48:31.71\00:48:35.44
but you're seeing the fruit
of the labor. That's what you're
00:48:35.48\00:48:37.75
doing. That's what this is all
about right? You know handing
00:48:37.78\00:48:40.85
out...you know sharing the
gospel my friends. You never
00:48:40.88\00:48:43.95
know. Just the sharing of a
book the sharing of the gospel
00:48:43.99\00:48:47.46
message in the form of
literature is powerful because
00:48:47.49\00:48:49.69
they may not listen to you tell
them, but they'll take it home
00:48:49.72\00:48:52.26
and they'll read it. And those
words just come alive when a
00:48:52.29\00:48:55.90
person is in the quietness of
their own home or wherever it is
00:48:55.93\00:48:59.47
Maybe on the road somewhere,
in a motel, riding across the
00:48:59.50\00:49:02.77
nation on a motorcycle. This is
the real deal. So I have to ask
00:49:02.80\00:49:08.84
though, I'm just so curious.
When you get to this event, like
00:49:08.88\00:49:12.11
Sturgis or any of these other
rallies you got to know that you
00:49:12.15\00:49:15.28
guys are running into some
of your old friends. You got to
00:49:15.32\00:49:18.55
know some people see you and
say hey! There's Pete. What is
00:49:18.59\00:49:22.96
Pete doing here? What is James
doing here? Do you have some
00:49:22.99\00:49:26.16
moments like that and how does
that usually go when you meet
00:49:26.19\00:49:29.76
people from your past life and
then they see what you're doing
00:49:29.80\00:49:32.57
now?
00:49:32.60\00:49:34.04
Oh yeah. We had at the Reno
Street Vibrations a girl that I
00:49:34.07\00:49:38.54
used to go out with. She said,
Oh I'm living over here and
00:49:38.57\00:49:43.01
Sherry's up here too and so
she told me that they both were
00:49:43.04\00:49:49.58
going to come to the booth
and when they got there she told
00:49:49.62\00:49:53.56
Sherry, she goes yeah,
he's nothing like he used to be.
00:49:53.59\00:49:57.99
I said well praise God for
that. It's nothing I can change.
00:49:58.03\00:50:02.76
Without me, you can do nothing
He said. And so you know when
00:50:02.80\00:50:06.23
you commit yourself...I
committed myself into that dark
00:50:06.27\00:50:09.60
world at one time. Now I've
given my whole life to Christ
00:50:09.64\00:50:12.51
saying where you send me I will
go. And that's, you know, in all
00:50:12.54\00:50:17.55
the years that my wife and
I have been involved in this
00:50:17.58\00:50:20.28
the ministry we've never lacked
for anything and we have this
00:50:20.32\00:50:26.92
phrase if it's God's will
it's God's bill. And a couple of
00:50:26.96\00:50:29.96
times when we were going to
go to Sturgis you know everybody
00:50:29.99\00:50:33.13
was freaking out because we
didn't have enough money. I said
00:50:33.16\00:50:36.26
if the Lord wants us there,
we'll have the money before the
00:50:36.30\00:50:38.43
deadlines and every year
everything has been paid for.
00:50:38.47\00:50:42.70
And so you know definitely the
Lord wants us there and so...
00:50:42.74\00:50:44.57
Amen, Absolutely, praise
the Lord. I'm guessing that's a
00:50:44.61\00:50:47.58
similar situation
with you as well, huh?
00:50:47.61\00:50:49.48
Well actually I know that I'm
going to be in Sturgis this year
00:50:49.51\00:50:52.71
and I'm probably going to see
my old club members there so,
00:50:52.75\00:50:56.12
because they're still there
and I think it's going to be a
00:50:56.15\00:51:00.42
blessing because they're
going to see a huge change in me
00:51:00.46\00:51:02.62
because they knew the lifestyle
I used to be. I used to be a
00:51:02.66\00:51:05.86
hothead person. You know, just
didn't have a care in life but I
00:51:05.89\00:51:12.00
know they notice a huge
difference you know because I'm
00:51:12.03\00:51:13.70
still friends with them on
Facebook and I put a lot of
00:51:13.74\00:51:17.37
stuff of Ellen White quotes and
actually, a lot of 3ABN videos
00:51:17.41\00:51:23.18
as well. So I can't wait because
it's going to be a blessing to
00:51:23.21\00:51:27.38
see them because I do want
to witness to them. I do want to
00:51:27.42\00:51:30.65
let them know that hey Jesus
loves you. He wants you to be in
00:51:30.69\00:51:34.59
his kingdom. He says He loves
the sinner but He hates the sin.
00:51:34.62\00:51:42.30
And that's what He does and
He loves everyone no matter what
00:51:42.33\00:51:46.33
you have done in your life and
that's what He wants all of us
00:51:46.37\00:51:49.94
to do.
00:51:49.97\00:51:51.31
All right, so how can people
contact AMM Adventist Motorcycle
00:51:51.34\00:51:55.31
Ministries? How can
they get in contact with you?
00:51:55.34\00:51:56.68
Well if you want to be a part of
a ministry a motorcycle ministry
00:51:56.75\00:52:00.45
you don't need a motorcycle.
You can call me personally.
00:52:00.48\00:52:03.35
Bought myself a number. They're
going to show it (832) 343-3036
00:52:03.39\00:52:08.86
or go to the web to
AdventistMotorcycleMinistry.org
00:52:08.89\00:52:13.53
AdventistMotorcycleMinistry.org
He Returns Ministry, how can
00:52:13.56\00:52:17.83
they get in contact with you?
00:52:17.87\00:52:19.20
info@HeReturns.org and we have
a phone number there as well
00:52:19.23\00:52:23.07
(844)453-7874 and we're also
going to put up the flyer as
00:52:23.10\00:52:25.91
well so you could donate and
actually, find more information
00:52:25.94\00:52:30.01
about donations
and volunteer work.
00:52:30.05\00:52:32.41
So if you don't read that number
back just one more time guys.
00:52:32.45\00:52:35.95
That's (844) 453-7874. Thank you
so much my brother. And how do
00:52:35.98\00:52:43.19
people get in contact
with Sabbath Keepers Motorcycle
00:52:43.22\00:52:45.39
Ministry?
00:52:45.43\00:52:46.76
Okay, so being the national vice
president, I put my personal
00:52:46.80\00:52:49.50
information up there because
I can orchestrate where it goes.
00:52:49.53\00:52:52.63
So they can reach James Castillo
at (530) 925-1099 and my
00:52:52.67\00:53:00.98
personal contact at
email is 3AMServant@gmail.com
00:53:01.01\00:53:07.18
Amen. All right so we kind
of ran out of time here. We're
00:53:07.22\00:53:09.72
going to take a short break.
We'll be back in just a moment.
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