I want to spend my
life mending broken people.
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I want to spend my
life removing pain.
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Lord let my words
heal a heart that hurts.
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I want to spend my
life mending broken people.
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I want to spend my
life mending broken people.
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Hello and welcome to 3ABN Today.
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I'm you host Yvonne Shelton.
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And I am so excited
about our program today
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because we have some
guests with us who are going to
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show you a really innovative
way to spread the gospel.
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It's really great, and I'm
so glad that you've decided
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to share this part
of your day with us.
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Before I introduce
them, before we start,
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let's go to some music.
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Jayme Stabel is
going to be playing for us,
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My Jesus I Love Thee, medley.
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Thank you, Jayme, for
that uplifting selection.
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That was a blessing. Thank you.
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So let me introduce
you to our guests today.
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At the far end of the table
here we have Norbert Restrepo.
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He is the president
of Hartland College.
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And then his
lively wife, Ivonne.
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My namesake.
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It's going to be
weird saying Ivonne.
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My namesake, Yvonne Restrepo.
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And you are the Hartland College
Health Outreach Coordinator.
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- Yes. ~ Thank
you for being here.
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~ Jesse Zwiker.
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- Oh, I got it. ~ Right.
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Hartland College Vice President
of Marketing and Strategy.
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And then Yafet Tegene.
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- Perfect. ~
Health Ministry major.
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- Yes ma'am. ~ You're a student.
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- Yes ma'am. ~ Nice to have you.
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I'm so happy to have all of you.
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When I looked over the outline
for what we were going to
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talk about, I got
excited about what you're doing.
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So I want you to tell our
audience what you're doing,
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what's going on at Hartland.
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Why should
people even wonder about
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what's going on at Hartland?
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We'll start with the president.
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Tell us about Hartland.
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Thank you. It's
a great opportunity
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to be part of Hartland.
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We have been serving there
now for just over 11 years.
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And what inspired
us to accept that call,
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to be part of
Hartland, is that education work
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training young people to
share the everlasting gospel
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in the market place, is
what really inspires us in life.
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That's our life calling.
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And Hartland is a college
that is combining, actually,
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solid academics with practical
training and soul winning.
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This is something
that every single student
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has to experience.
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It's not simply an elective.
It's part of the structure.
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Soul winning,
practical training,
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and solid academics,
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with a clear
mission being missionaries.
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~ Look at the difference
between that and other schools.
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You know, some
schools, when I went to college,
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which was a long time
ago, they just focused
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on academics, really.
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There were some
industries at the college,
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but the primary
focus was academics.
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I love the idea of
being able to have academics
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and the mission, of
course, of evangelism.
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And being able to
be an entrepreneur.
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So how did that idea come about?
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The idea of
blending those three areas?
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How did that happen?
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You know, it was
interesting because...
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And we have some slides on this
from the campus at Hartland.
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Hartland is like 700
acres. Beautiful place.
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The mansion, of
course, that's on the picture.
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Now is that the
administrative building?
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That's the
administrative building.
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And it has some of
the classrooms as well.
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There's other
classrooms as well.
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So students love it for
the natural environment.
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But really, Hartland
really tries to bring together
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these two worlds.
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You know, we have many
projects that are trying to
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do missionary training.
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And we have a slide there.
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We show these two, kind of,
dichotomies almost, you know,
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where we have
the focus on mission.
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There's a lot of projects
that really focus on mission,
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and then there's a lot
of projects that focus on
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building a skill
or a career, you know,
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and getting
professional training.
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And so, what we're
trying to do at Hartland
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is really trying to
blend these two fully together.
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Because the most
powerful missionary in the past,
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you know, we
know was Paul, right?
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I mean, besides
Jesus, of course.
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- Right, of course. ~
Everybody except Jesus.
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~ Well, Paul, you know.
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But Paul had that
combination of his skill,
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his ability, his learning,
you know, his academics,
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his professionalism,
and at the same time
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that missionary focus.
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So really trying to
combine these two together.
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This is what I think Hartland
really is trying to combine
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in these four-year programs, you
know, of the different majors.
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And all the different
majors are part of that.
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And really, the other
big component to making
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the concept really
holistic or very impactful,
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I think, is that
whole entrepreneurial side.
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You know, this training
people not just to be employees.
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You know, because
the industrial revolution
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really, you know, created
these massive industries.
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And they started coming to
the universities and saying,
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"Hey, we want, we just want a
bunch of thousands of employees
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that can just be on
a, you know, on a..."
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~ Like a treadmill.
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~ On a treadmill, you
know, just doing their thing
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and not thinking too much.
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But this is not, this
is not the biblical model.
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The biblical model is to
train thinkers, not reflectors.
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And so, we're really
trying to train thinkers.
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And so the entrepreneurship side
really brings that together.
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It's like leadership, you know.
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We're training people
to think for themselves,
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to be leaders, whether
they're going to actually
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be a leader in a
project or act like a leader,
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you know, or an owner,
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even if they're not the
leader, but they contribute.
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They think for the
project, they have those skills
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of being thinkers and
contributing much more
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heavily to the project.
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You know, that's
really a major part.
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But then really, getting
those entrepreneurial skills
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in their
experience as a student.
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And actually where
we got this from was
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none other than
Madison College, right?
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- Okay. - From
our history, yeah.
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Tell us a little
bit about Madison.
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Why Madison?
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~ So Madison was, of all
of our history, you know,
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Madison really stuck
out, came out, you know,
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jumped out at us,
actually, looking at how we do
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education, for being the
first entrepreneurial college
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like training
missional entrepreneurs.
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So they had really two sides.
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They had training missionaries;
that was like the basis.
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Everything that they were
doing was training missionaries.
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But then their unique thing
was they were training what they
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called,
self-supporting missionaries.
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So all of them going
through their college,
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going through their
program, four-year program...
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You know, they had like
400-something students there.
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And all of them had to,
they weren't even allowed,
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their parents weren't
even allowed to pay the tuition
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or pay the full tuition.
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The students had to learn how
to do business on the campus.
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They had like over 27 different
businesses run on campus
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by students, and the students
learned how to do business.
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~ They learned
a practical trade.
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And with that, they
were then able to pay their
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college tuition, and
learn how to do business,
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and how to go anywhere,
you know, anywhere in the world
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to start a project,
whatever it was, you know.
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They had plumbing
businesses that they learned.
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They learned carpentry
businesses, some students.
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You know, from history we know
they started a broom factory.
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You know, whatever.
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But they went out
into some dark community
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where there was no
presence and they just
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started that little
business, started helping people
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in their homes, and
with that starting churches
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all over the
south of North America
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and then international
all over the world.
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So it was very
amazing, very impactful.
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And we're like, why
is nobody doing this?
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It's like, why?
This was 100 years ago.
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You know, like, it's time
for us to do something like this
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for the 21st century.
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And how
applicable is it right now
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at this point
in earth's history.
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Because people need to
know how to do different things,
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but we also have
to get the gospel out.
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And that is an
amazing way to do it.
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~ And let me just
jump in here, you know.
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This gets me very excited.
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But you know, I read a study
just recently from one of the
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universities here,
they did a study that
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over 63% of young people,
millennials and Gen Z'ers,
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you know, want to
start their own business.
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~ 63%! - 63% of
our young people.
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You know, and I'm like,
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well are we going to
just let them go out and
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start their own business
and do some worldly something?
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Or are we going to say,
hey, let's use that interest,
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that talent, that
skill and integrate it
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into the mission work,
you know, that we're trying to
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get done here, you know.
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So I'm like, we
really need to harness this,
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especially in the 21st century.
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It's much easier to
start a business today
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than it was 20 years ago,
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you know, or
pre-internet time, right?
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I mean, to start a business,
to start a coaching business,
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you know, like our
student here, you know,
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it's so much easier because
you can just set up a website
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for free, to set up your
website, offer your services.
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You know, it's much easier.
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So we really can integrate
this much better and give people
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a deeper purpose for
doing, not just doing business
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for the sake of making money,
but doing business for the
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sake of reaching people, right?
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I mean, that was really the
original purpose from the Bible.
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That was the
purpose of business.
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It was to bless people
with good products and services
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and ministering to their
needs, and at the same time
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gain their
confidence and tell them about
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the good news of
the gospel, you know.
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~ It's just like,
when I think of the Lord,
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there's so many things I
think of, one thing is that
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He accomplishes so
much with just one move.
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One move
accomplishes many things.
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And that's kind of
what this is doing.
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One move, going to
this school teaches people
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how to be self-supporting,
so to speak, and yet
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get the gospel out.
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This is what
we're supposed to do,
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at this point in
earth's history especially.
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And so, that's
what you're doing.
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I love that.
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Sister Ivonne, tell us
what you do at Hartland.
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~ Yes, I'm the
Health Outreach Coordinator,
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and I'm an instructor as well.
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And for me, it's so exciting
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to train the
students in the classroom,
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and then having the opportunity
to go with them to the field
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where now my work is to
empower the students to do it.
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Let me give you
practical examples.
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We had the amazing
opportunity to share
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one month ago at Indianapolis
at Pathways to Health
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where 2500 volunteers
in the spirit of, you know,
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self-sacrifice spirit
and love could get together
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to minister to
more than 4000 people.
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And I had the privilege,
it's a win-win situation
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when we serve
and use the health as
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the right arm of the
three angels' messages.
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So taking my students there,
I was not the teacher any more.
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I just have to
empower them and help them
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so they can do it
and be in the front line
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where now they
minister themselves.
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And with my experience,
I'm behind them to help them;
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pray with
people, counsel people.
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Well, Yafet was
one of those students.
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And it's just amazing.
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So really what we want
at Hartland is to train the
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student in a professional
way and then infuse them
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in the mission
field in the practice
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when we go out together.
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So by the time they graduate,
they have made connections
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with other ministries,
and know that we're not
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going to finish the work by
ourself, but we need to partner
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with them, with
other institutions.
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Where the students
know that it's not about
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them, it's about getting
together for one purpose:
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and it's just to
touch people's lives
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through the health message.
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At least, this is
training that I give.
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And just enjoy the process.
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Because the
process is just amazing.
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~ Yes, so the
students went to Indianapolis,
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and they had a
chance to implement
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what they've been learning.
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To actually see it
in motion and practice.
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~ Yes, they called
us from Pathways to lead
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the massage and relaxation area.
00:17:04.45\00:17:07.06
So we were holding a whole
section of the mega clinic.
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There were other
volunteers as well.
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But oh, it was
just a real-life thing.
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~ That's great, that's great.
00:17:16.50\00:17:18.30
Yafet, you're a student...
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Oh, did you want
to say something?
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Yeah, I was going to
say, maybe you can also share
00:17:21.07\00:17:22.87
the whole health coaching aspect
and the students setting up
00:17:22.90\00:17:27.94
their own
businesses doing that too.
00:17:27.98\00:17:31.18
We were praying for
this in the capital for years
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seeing how practical
tools we can give the students.
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And now we just have
our first promotion of
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life and health
coaches at Hartland.
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And what we really want is
the students, the first year,
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they can be life and
health certified coaches.
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Which coaches is something
that is very well known today.
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Getting to the practical fields
and to the doctor's office.
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A coach can work
in different ways.
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So the student, the first
year they are at Hartland,
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can be certified so they
can begin their own practice.
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So by the time they graduate,
they graduate practically
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having a background of
ministry through coaching.
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And we are very excited to give
the students that opportunity.
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And we just had two
days ago the first graduation
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of coaches at Hartland.
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So that program is certified,
it's certifying the students.
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Yes, and we partnered...
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As I mentioned before,
I believe in partnerships,
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Because if we don't
get together to work in the
00:18:34.78\00:18:36.71
same spirit, we're
not going to get in.
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The need out there is huge.
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And we need to work together.
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So we partnered with Adventist
Christian Coaching Alliance
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and Beautiful Minds Medical.
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So it's just an
amazing, an amazing opportunity.
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~ Oh, that's great.
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Again, that's being
so forward-thinking.
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You know, you're looking
at, you're identifying the needs
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and then you're
meeting those needs.
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And that's amazing.
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You're a student at Hartland?
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Tell us about your experience.
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My experience has been amazing.
00:19:06.54\00:19:08.38
I feel, like, very privileged
to be at this august table
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here with all of these people.
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So I'll just add
my little two cents.
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Hartland college has been a
very practical training for me.
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I'm someone who doesn't
really take theory that hard.
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I can take theory
quite well, actually.
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But practically, it's
difficult for me personally.
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I found just the way I
was brought up, and so forth.
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So coming to
Hartland, I had the ability
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to put things into practice.
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So I did learn theory for sure,
but for me the most valuable
00:19:33.44\00:19:36.64
part of it was how do I actually
implement this into my life.
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And so, one example about
the wellness center that we
00:19:39.61\00:19:42.61
had and we currently
still have, in 2015 my mother
00:19:42.64\00:19:46.82
unfortunately
came down with cancer.
00:19:46.85\00:19:48.72
And of course, I was taking
the health ministry program.
00:19:48.92\00:19:51.12
And I said, well, why not take
advantage of these principles
00:19:51.15\00:19:54.62
that we have and
bring her down to Hartland.
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So she actually ended up coming
down with the ten-day plan.
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And she lost all kinds of
weight and she had many years
00:20:00.06\00:20:03.77
of a sustained victory
in that area of her life,
00:20:03.80\00:20:06.90
you know, weight
loss and so forth.
00:20:06.94\00:20:08.30
And so, I'm just so thankful
for some of those principles.
00:20:08.50\00:20:10.81
You know, hot
fomentations, herbology.
00:20:10.84\00:20:13.64
Some of the classes that we
take our herbal pharmacology,
00:20:13.98\00:20:16.68
so I love herbalism.
00:20:16.71\00:20:18.38
I'm actually a registered
holistic nutritionist,
00:20:18.88\00:20:21.18
so I have the privilege of
helping people in that field.
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Preventative nutrition,
00:20:24.92\00:20:26.32
philosophy of
Christian education;
00:20:26.62\00:20:28.22
these are all
practical things that I learned.
00:20:28.26\00:20:30.03
And I was able to put it into
practice in my own business.
00:20:30.29\00:20:33.19
So I started my own business
during Covid, of all times.
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~ Now what is your
business? What are you doing?
00:20:36.20\00:20:37.87
~ My business is a nutritional
consultation business.
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~ But as I was just
consulting with people,
00:20:42.47\00:20:44.57
just helping them
with their various needs,
00:20:44.61\00:20:46.31
let's say, someone
wanted to lose 20 pounds,
00:20:46.34\00:20:48.01
or someone is
going through depression,
00:20:48.04\00:20:49.54
or something like
this, I would counsel them
00:20:49.58\00:20:51.88
and help them, minister
to them using God's plan.
00:20:51.91\00:20:54.75
You know, godly
trust, open-air daily,
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exercise, et cetera, et cetera.
00:20:57.82\00:20:59.39
And I noticed something, that a
lot of them were struggling with
00:21:00.06\00:21:03.69
some things that,
you know, substances.
00:21:03.73\00:21:06.06
For example, caffeine.
00:21:06.09\00:21:07.43
And so, I couldn't help
but want to minister to them
00:21:07.56\00:21:11.33
in a practical way.
00:21:11.37\00:21:12.70
And so, it was
generating income for sure,
00:21:12.73\00:21:15.17
but my heart was actually
to minister to their needs.
00:21:15.20\00:21:17.81
And so, I ended up
coming up with one product,
00:21:17.84\00:21:20.94
Better Than Coffee,
then I ended up coming up
00:21:21.24\00:21:22.78
with many other products.
00:21:22.81\00:21:24.15
Now I have several
different products.
00:21:24.18\00:21:25.51
- Just out of... ~
That you developed?
00:21:25.55\00:21:26.88
Yeah, that I
personally manufactured myself.
00:21:26.92\00:21:28.48
- Wow! - It was not intentional
00:21:28.52\00:21:30.92
to start, you know,
this avenue of the business.
00:21:30.95\00:21:32.95
It just blossomed naturally,
00:21:32.99\00:21:34.76
because I was
actually trying to meet a need.
00:21:35.06\00:21:37.46
And as people got off of
those things, they began to
00:21:37.59\00:21:40.33
think more clearly.
00:21:40.36\00:21:41.70
I was able then to give
them, I give every one of my
00:21:41.73\00:21:44.60
consultation
clients, Ministry of Healing.
00:21:44.97\00:21:47.20
And these are for the most
part non-Christian clients.
00:21:47.44\00:21:50.97
These people have, you
know, never read the gospels,
00:21:51.01\00:21:53.21
yet they're open
to, Ministry of Healing.
00:21:53.24\00:21:55.34
~ And how do they respond?
00:21:55.38\00:21:56.71
Oh, I mean, you can go on my
website and see the testimonies.
00:21:57.08\00:21:59.51
They're amazing.
00:21:59.55\00:22:00.88
These people,
they love the fact that
00:22:00.98\00:22:03.69
there's a better way to
health without, you know,
00:22:04.09\00:22:06.29
going to such
crazy extremes, you know.
00:22:06.32\00:22:08.99
Our message makes
sense, it's practical,
00:22:09.32\00:22:11.93
and they are
definitely susceptible.
00:22:12.53\00:22:14.53
Every one of them wanted prayer.
00:22:14.63\00:22:16.90
Without exception,
every one of them said,
00:22:16.93\00:22:18.70
"Thank you so much
for praying for me."
00:22:18.73\00:22:20.24
What I discovered
also, a lot of these people
00:22:20.64\00:22:22.34
are just going
through emotional turmoil.
00:22:22.37\00:22:24.04
We know that 9 out of 10
diseases starts in the mind.
00:22:24.07\00:22:27.54
And so I actually saw that
first hand, and I remember,
00:22:27.58\00:22:29.81
oh wow, okay, this is
actually, I'm living this out.
00:22:29.84\00:22:32.15
I see what's happening.
00:22:32.18\00:22:33.52
And I was able to
apply those principles
00:22:33.55\00:22:34.88
that I had
learned at school as well.
00:22:34.92\00:22:36.25
~ That is so beautiful.
00:22:36.28\00:22:37.62
So you are an actual graduate
00:22:37.65\00:22:38.99
or are you
still a student there?
00:22:39.02\00:22:40.52
~ I'm soon to be a graduate,
but I'm currently finishing
00:22:40.56\00:22:43.29
my degree in
Health Ministry there.
00:22:43.32\00:22:45.93
And I was, like Sister Ivonne
said, I had the privilege of
00:22:46.53\00:22:49.46
being trained by her.
00:22:49.50\00:22:51.20
She's such a phenomenal trainer.
00:22:51.23\00:22:53.47
And I had the
privilege of graduating
00:22:54.10\00:22:56.07
under her class as well.
00:22:56.10\00:22:57.44
And I'm going to use
that along in my business,
00:22:57.47\00:23:00.44
in my personal
coaching business,
00:23:00.48\00:23:02.01
to help minister and
practically reach out
00:23:02.04\00:23:05.08
to the needs of those.
00:23:05.11\00:23:06.45
You know, life and health,
what's more important than that?
00:23:06.48\00:23:08.58
~ Right. - Very, very practical.
00:23:08.62\00:23:10.25
And so I have better
ways of how to approach that
00:23:10.55\00:23:13.12
now that I've gone
through that training.
00:23:13.36\00:23:14.82
That is so beautiful.
00:23:14.86\00:23:16.19
I mean, this is, you couldn't
have a better spokesperson
00:23:16.29\00:23:18.93
than a student.
00:23:18.96\00:23:20.30
~ In fact, Yafet, you
mentioned the herbology class
00:23:20.80\00:23:25.03
that you took at
Hartland, herbal pharmacology.
00:23:25.07\00:23:27.20
Were there other
classes that you want to mention
00:23:27.24\00:23:29.20
specifically, that
helped you develop that mindset
00:23:29.24\00:23:32.34
and set up your business?
00:23:32.37\00:23:33.78
There's so many,
I can mention a few.
00:23:35.28\00:23:37.55
Philosophy of
Christian Education.
00:23:39.01\00:23:42.08
Believe it or not, you
know, that's a class that
00:23:42.48\00:23:45.05
was actually taught
by President Restrepo,
00:23:45.09\00:23:47.66
and it was very practical
for me because I began to
00:23:47.96\00:23:51.26
see the mindset, that
solidified for me the mindset
00:23:51.29\00:23:54.73
of what a true
missionary is to be.
00:23:54.93\00:23:57.30
He mentioned earlier
already the Waldensians
00:23:57.33\00:24:00.14
and how they would take,
you know, different trades,
00:24:00.17\00:24:02.74
and you know, sometimes
just slipping in a little
00:24:02.77\00:24:04.87
scripture in their back
pocket, or in their handkerchief
00:24:05.27\00:24:09.48
in their coat pocket,
and they would minister
00:24:09.51\00:24:11.78
to people spiritually as
they began to do, you know,
00:24:11.81\00:24:14.85
practical businesses,
whether it be glassware,
00:24:14.88\00:24:16.92
artisanship, or
masonry, or what have you.
00:24:16.95\00:24:19.12
So that was something that
really helped me to understand,
00:24:19.52\00:24:22.02
you know what, the mindset is,
I'm not here to get their money.
00:24:22.22\00:24:25.29
Often times clients come
to me and, you know, they say,
00:24:25.33\00:24:28.03
"I don't have the
money. Can you still help me?"
00:24:28.06\00:24:29.96
I say, "Of course, I'll
be willing to help you."
00:24:30.00\00:24:31.93
It's not about the money.
00:24:31.97\00:24:33.30
It's about being
able to reach their heart.
00:24:33.34\00:24:35.30
And that's a part of, you
know Christ's method alone.
00:24:35.40\00:24:38.27
You know, once you have
their confidence, their trust,
00:24:38.31\00:24:40.38
their faith, it's all synonyms,
you're able to then say,
00:24:40.41\00:24:43.01
"Come, follow me."
00:24:43.04\00:24:44.38
And that's the
whole goal, the endgame.
00:24:44.41\00:24:46.31
These are all means.
00:24:46.35\00:24:47.68
The business is
a means to an end.
00:24:47.72\00:24:49.05
These business firms
are to guide us to help them
00:24:49.08\00:24:53.09
to find the
Maker of their souls.
00:24:53.36\00:24:55.36
~ Absolutely.
00:24:55.39\00:24:56.83
That's what's so exciting
to me about what you're doing.
00:24:56.93\00:24:59.73
Because you're
training people to be able to
00:24:59.76\00:25:04.83
live in the real world, to
be able to support themselves,
00:25:04.87\00:25:09.34
but yet, it's
all about evangelism.
00:25:09.37\00:25:12.97
The other part is
a means to an end,
00:25:13.01\00:25:15.94
which is really interesting.
00:25:15.98\00:25:18.58
So just to piggyback
on what he just said,
00:25:18.81\00:25:21.58
you know, this training
to become an evangelistic,
00:25:21.82\00:25:26.59
you know, missionary,
but being self-supporting
00:25:26.79\00:25:29.89
was the most important
thing that Madison did actually
00:25:29.92\00:25:33.73
in our example.
00:25:33.76\00:25:35.10
You know, we have
these couple of quotes here
00:25:35.13\00:25:37.10
that I want to share with you.
00:25:37.13\00:25:38.47
And maybe we can
just read them together.
00:25:38.97\00:25:41.20
So this was the most
important thing that they did,
00:25:49.94\00:25:52.85
was train these
people how to become...
00:25:52.88\00:25:55.18
And we wouldn't call
it, self-supporting, today.
00:25:55.35\00:25:57.32
That's like a 100-year-old term.
00:25:57.35\00:25:59.15
But we would say,
entrepreneurs, you know.
00:25:59.35\00:26:01.99
We train them to
be entrepreneurs.
00:26:02.02\00:26:03.89
We train them to be
missional entrepreneurs,
00:26:03.93\00:26:06.29
because Madison
was focused on mission.
00:26:06.33\00:26:08.13
And the second quote
actually really highlights
00:26:08.36\00:26:11.40
that mission part.
00:26:11.43\00:26:12.77
She says...
00:26:12.80\00:26:14.14
So for me, when I read
this, I'm like, what! You know?
00:26:34.26\00:26:38.89
We need to
train people how to be
00:26:38.93\00:26:41.86
missional
entrepreneurs, you know.
00:26:41.90\00:26:44.13
And so, I'm very excited, you
know, to see what has already
00:26:44.23\00:26:47.90
really been going on
for years at Hartland.
00:26:47.94\00:26:50.17
And I feel like
nobody knows about it.
00:26:50.34\00:26:53.44
You know, like, we
really need to, like...
00:26:53.48\00:26:55.14
It's like a well-kept secret.
00:26:55.18\00:26:56.51
~ Exactly, you know.
00:26:56.54\00:26:57.88
~ It's Adventism's
best kept secret, exactly.
00:26:57.91\00:27:00.62
So I really think that we
need to get this out there
00:27:00.65\00:27:04.22
because this is how
she says the gospel will be
00:27:05.05\00:27:08.79
taken to every nation in
a very short period of time.
00:27:09.86\00:27:13.09
Because it's easy, because
you're doing business, you know.
00:27:13.29\00:27:15.60
You can set up a
business anywhere, right?
00:27:15.63\00:27:17.67
It doesn't matter which
country, which place, you know.
00:27:17.70\00:27:20.64
You identify a
need, like what he said.
00:27:21.24\00:27:23.14
It's so beautiful.
00:27:23.17\00:27:24.51
Business is about identifying
needs in the community
00:27:24.54\00:27:27.48
and then supplying a good
solution to solve that need,
00:27:27.51\00:27:30.81
to solve that problem.
00:27:30.85\00:27:32.18
And that is what
gains confidence.
00:27:32.21\00:27:34.45
This is Christ's
method, you know.
00:27:34.48\00:27:36.08
- Ministering to their needs.
~That's what I was going to say.
00:27:36.12\00:27:37.72
~ It's gaining their confidence.
00:27:37.82\00:27:39.42
And then once we've done
that, like the Waldensians,
00:27:39.62\00:27:42.82
you know, then we can bid
them to follow Jesus, you know.
00:27:42.92\00:27:46.19
~ Exactly, that's
what I was going to say.
00:27:46.23\00:27:47.56
That's how
Jesus did what He did.
00:27:47.60\00:27:50.03
He met the needs. He
met people where they were.
00:27:50.07\00:27:53.30
And that's what you're doing.
00:27:53.57\00:27:55.57
And that's just amazing.
00:27:55.60\00:27:57.11
Now, of course,
the academic side of me
00:27:57.14\00:27:59.21
wants to know how does that line
up with accreditation though?
00:27:59.41\00:28:03.35
How are you able to
be accredited when you're
00:28:03.38\00:28:07.28
doing things
differently from the norm?
00:28:07.32\00:28:10.52
So one of the things
with accreditation is that
00:28:10.72\00:28:12.99
you have to actually demonstrate
that what you're saying
00:28:13.02\00:28:17.33
that you're going to
do, actually is happening.
00:28:17.83\00:28:20.40
In other words,
the learning outcomes,
00:28:20.43\00:28:23.00
the learning objectives,
that these are being reached
00:28:23.23\00:28:26.43
by your students.
00:28:26.47\00:28:27.80
So they hold you
accountable to that.
00:28:27.97\00:28:30.37
Therefore, you don't
want to over-promise.
00:28:30.41\00:28:32.87
And every student
has their strengths,
00:28:33.04\00:28:35.81
has their unique set of skills.
00:28:35.91\00:28:39.31
And we have to match
those set of skills with the
00:28:39.35\00:28:43.05
needs out there, and
also with the infrastructure
00:28:43.08\00:28:45.62
we have on campus
that can help them
00:28:45.65\00:28:47.72
achieve and develop further.
00:28:48.12\00:28:49.62
So I'll give you
one concrete example.
00:28:49.66\00:28:51.66
We currently have a
student, and he's a pastoral
00:28:52.03\00:28:55.86
evangelism major student.
00:28:55.90\00:28:57.50
A theology student.
00:28:57.53\00:28:58.90
But in his work education,
which is part of our curriculum,
00:28:59.90\00:29:04.24
currently, they have
twelve hours per week
00:29:04.81\00:29:08.38
of required work education.
00:29:08.41\00:29:09.74
They can put some more
hours, but these are the ones
00:29:09.78\00:29:11.98
that are required right now.
00:29:12.01\00:29:13.38
And his workstation is the
auto shop, which by the way
00:29:13.48\00:29:17.15
is one of the classes
of the core curriculum that
00:29:17.19\00:29:19.62
every single student
at Hartland has to take.
00:29:19.65\00:29:22.02
~ The what shop?
00:29:22.19\00:29:23.53
~ The auto shop. - Oh the auto.
00:29:23.56\00:29:25.53
~ So there's a basic
auto mechanics class so that,
00:29:25.56\00:29:27.13
you know, they know the
basic things, even the ladies.
00:29:27.23\00:29:29.40
If they get, you know,
their car is not starting
00:29:29.50\00:29:32.53
or they have to change a
tire; those basic things,
00:29:32.57\00:29:34.97
they learn them.
00:29:35.00\00:29:36.34
But this young man, he
has skills in that area,
00:29:36.37\00:29:38.64
and he wants to
develop them further.
00:29:38.74\00:29:40.74
So what he is proposing
now is that he wants to use our
00:29:41.01\00:29:46.58
auto shop, he wants to
also service the institutions
00:29:46.61\00:29:49.28
vehicles, but at the same time,
part of that work education time
00:29:49.32\00:29:53.36
he can use it to
refurbish certain vehicles
00:29:53.39\00:29:57.19
that there's a need for
out there in the market,
00:29:57.33\00:29:59.53
and then sell them.
00:29:59.93\00:30:01.26
Basically to have a
dealership that he runs
00:30:01.30\00:30:04.03
on our campus and online.
00:30:04.13\00:30:06.07
He advertises it.
00:30:06.10\00:30:07.44
And he has
experience doing this.
00:30:07.47\00:30:08.80
So this is his project that
he's going to start this fall.
00:30:08.94\00:30:12.44
Because even though his
parents can pay for his tuition,
00:30:12.47\00:30:15.34
he wants to take up the
challenge of being able to
00:30:15.54\00:30:18.71
pay his way through college now.
00:30:18.75\00:30:21.38
And then when he finishes
school, he already has that
00:30:22.28\00:30:24.49
spirit, that entrepreneurial
spirit that he is not having to
00:30:24.52\00:30:28.09
wait to be an employee.
00:30:28.12\00:30:29.99
He can now generate
funds, he can serve the Lord
00:30:30.19\00:30:32.83
in many capacities.
00:30:32.86\00:30:34.33
~ That's great.
00:30:34.36\00:30:35.70
So with the state,
with the accreditation,
00:30:35.73\00:30:39.67
with the state, does
the state recognize Hartland
00:30:39.70\00:30:42.94
as an accredited institution?
00:30:43.24\00:30:45.11
How does that work?
00:30:45.14\00:30:46.47
~ So currently we're
in the transition process.
00:30:46.51\00:30:48.91
Okay.
00:30:48.94\00:30:50.28
We have, Hartland, has
operated for many years
00:30:50.31\00:30:53.62
under an exemption
as a religious school
00:30:53.65\00:30:56.79
to not be
certified by the state.
00:30:56.99\00:30:58.92
And that worked great
for Hartland for many years.
00:30:59.22\00:31:01.56
But as we draw now
in the 21st century,
00:31:01.76\00:31:04.86
there are certain careers
and there are certain skills
00:31:04.89\00:31:07.53
that require licensing.
00:31:07.63\00:31:09.86
So, therefore, this is something
that we are updating so that
00:31:10.07\00:31:13.84
our students don't
have that challenge.
00:31:13.87\00:31:15.47
And having said that,
I also want to add that
00:31:15.90\00:31:18.57
with the entrepreneurial aspect,
the accreditation is something
00:31:18.61\00:31:22.94
that is supportive but
doesn't become something that is
00:31:22.98\00:31:26.41
so, how could I
say, like demanding.
00:31:26.45\00:31:31.69
And the reason is that if you
can set up your own business,
00:31:32.02\00:31:34.92
you can be
successful wherever you go.
00:31:35.12\00:31:37.33
You're not dependent on
certification to be an employee.
00:31:38.13\00:31:42.06
Now we're doing this so
that it becomes a win-win.
00:31:42.10\00:31:44.37
You're not
dependent on accreditation,
00:31:44.60\00:31:46.43
nonetheless, we're going
to offer it to you as well.
00:31:46.47\00:31:49.40
Right, right. I
think that's good.
00:31:49.44\00:31:51.21
~ And really, part of it is, you
know, to your question on the
00:31:51.24\00:31:54.98
accreditation is
that the accrediting body
00:31:55.01\00:31:57.65
doesn't really tell you
this is what you have to do,
00:31:57.68\00:32:01.28
but rather, they are asking,
00:32:01.48\00:32:03.28
"What are you
saying you're doing?"
00:32:03.32\00:32:05.32
And then they just
hold us accountable
00:32:05.49\00:32:07.59
for what we are
saying that we're doing.
00:32:07.62\00:32:10.03
So we say we're
going to train our students
00:32:10.06\00:32:13.33
for entrepreneurship, then
they're going to come and check
00:32:13.36\00:32:18.33
whether we're
really training them in
00:32:18.37\00:32:19.70
entrepreneurship
or not, you know.
00:32:19.73\00:32:21.14
So that's kind of,
it's just a quality control
00:32:21.24\00:32:24.11
body that nobody can
fumble around and say
00:32:24.41\00:32:28.18
they're doing
something when they're not
00:32:28.21\00:32:29.54
doing anything, et cetera.
00:32:29.58\00:32:30.91
So that's kind of part
of what accreditation really
00:32:30.95\00:32:33.88
kind of helps with.
00:32:35.12\00:32:36.45
So they're not against actually
training missionaries, you know.
00:32:36.48\00:32:40.09
They're saying if you're
going to train missionaries,
00:32:40.12\00:32:41.92
then let's see
what your graduates are
00:32:42.16\00:32:44.46
doing afterwards, you know.
00:32:44.49\00:32:45.83
So it becomes an accountability
partner, in a way.
00:32:45.86\00:32:48.96
But we really like that.
00:32:49.96\00:32:51.97
It's not really, the
focus of entrepreneurship
00:32:52.00\00:32:55.47
it kind of, you know,
de-emphasizes the need for
00:32:55.74\00:33:00.31
accreditation, in a sense.
00:33:00.41\00:33:03.35
You know, not that
it's not important,
00:33:03.38\00:33:04.98
We need it, it's kind of
a basic, you know, thing.
00:33:05.01\00:33:07.65
But really, like for instance
our media students, you know.
00:33:07.68\00:33:11.92
Our media majors, from
day one, they learn to set up
00:33:11.95\00:33:17.09
their own website.
00:33:17.13\00:33:18.46
And every skill that they
learn in media, whether it's
00:33:18.49\00:33:20.60
photography, or graphic design,
or creating, you know, videos,
00:33:20.63\00:33:25.37
documentaries, whatever,
they offer these services
00:33:25.40\00:33:28.60
in their own business,
you know, their own website.
00:33:28.64\00:33:31.87
~ And so, they learn
how to do these things.
00:33:32.17\00:33:34.34
And in media, I mean, especially
like, you know, thinking about
00:33:34.38\00:33:37.41
the 21st century, 100
years ago they were not teaching
00:33:37.45\00:33:40.85
these kinds of
skills at Madison, you know.
00:33:40.88\00:33:43.25
But they were, I mean, if
you read it, they were actually
00:33:43.28\00:33:46.45
teaching like
typewriting and so forth.
00:33:46.49\00:33:48.09
We would translate
this into the 21 century
00:33:48.12\00:33:50.56
as software
development, media stuff, right.
00:33:50.59\00:33:53.83
But really, like, looking
at updating it, you know,
00:33:53.86\00:33:57.90
and how we can be most
relevant for this time.
00:33:57.93\00:34:00.70
But at the same
time, especially in media,
00:34:00.74\00:34:03.81
you know people are
not as concerned about your
00:34:04.11\00:34:07.48
degree in the end as
to what your portfolio is
00:34:07.51\00:34:11.65
of what you have
done in the past.
00:34:11.68\00:34:13.88
So if, like, our
media department is a media
00:34:13.92\00:34:19.49
agency, you know, offering
services where students can
00:34:19.52\00:34:22.99
actually do real-life projects
on helping other ministries,
00:34:23.02\00:34:27.46
helping other businesses,
Adventist businesses,
00:34:27.50\00:34:30.00
you know, to do their
websites, to do whatever,
00:34:30.10\00:34:34.20
then they get
real-life experience,
00:34:35.04\00:34:36.94
they can put it
into their portfolio.
00:34:36.97\00:34:38.61
And then after four years
of that, you know, they have
00:34:38.64\00:34:42.74
way more experience than
if they go to some, you know,
00:34:42.78\00:34:46.78
theoretical program
where at the end of that
00:34:46.98\00:34:49.75
you're saying,
"Yeah, I studied media."
00:34:49.78\00:34:51.89
It's like, "So
what have you done?"
00:34:51.92\00:34:53.25
You know, like, "Uh..."
00:34:53.29\00:34:54.66
~ So they have actually
stuff that they can share
00:34:55.82\00:34:59.09
what they've been
doing for four years,
00:34:59.13\00:35:00.46
and generate income to leave
college debt free, you know.
00:35:00.50\00:35:05.17
- That's really part of
it. ~ That is really great.
00:35:05.20\00:35:07.87
~ That's really great.
00:35:07.90\00:35:09.24
~ There is another aspect
that I also want to mention.
00:35:09.27\00:35:12.24
We have a program called,
The Lord Send Me, program.
00:35:12.67\00:35:15.91
It's kind of a grant program
that we offer to our students
00:35:16.11\00:35:18.91
who feel called
to set up a ministry.
00:35:19.31\00:35:21.82
And just last year we
had a student who graduated.
00:35:22.25\00:35:26.22
He went back to his
home country in Nigeria.
00:35:26.52\00:35:29.02
He was an MT student,
he was sponsored through
00:35:29.06\00:35:31.96
a missionary training
fund scholarship that we have.
00:35:31.99\00:35:34.56
The commitment is that they
go back to their home country
00:35:34.76\00:35:38.87
and do ministry in lieu of that
scholarship that they received.
00:35:38.90\00:35:43.24
So he went back.
00:35:43.84\00:35:45.17
One of the classes he
took while at Hartland
00:35:45.21\00:35:46.88
was a class that
used to be called,
00:35:46.91\00:35:48.94
Principles of
Self-Supporting Work.
00:35:48.98\00:35:50.75
Now we have updated that
title and we have expanded it.
00:35:50.95\00:35:55.28
We have Mission
and Entrepreneurship,
00:35:55.32\00:35:57.09
we have Ministry and
Leadership, and so forth.
00:35:57.12\00:35:59.39
We have three classes there
that they take the first year,
00:35:59.42\00:36:02.49
the second year,
and their junior year.
00:36:02.52\00:36:04.23
And during those classes
they have to develop a project.
00:36:04.49\00:36:08.33
A missional entrepreneurship
project or some type of
00:36:08.53\00:36:13.20
ministry and business
that they would like to apply.
00:36:13.23\00:36:17.31
Some of them say,
"Well, I'm not thinking
00:36:17.77\00:36:19.57
of setting up a business."
00:36:19.61\00:36:20.94
Well, how could you
help a local church?
00:36:20.98\00:36:23.14
How do you see
yourself helping a local
00:36:23.48\00:36:25.11
church with your talents?
00:36:25.15\00:36:26.65
Then do that as your project.
00:36:26.68\00:36:28.35
And they have to
develop a business plan.
00:36:28.38\00:36:30.05
So he developed a business plan
for an advent family mission.
00:36:30.09\00:36:33.96
He went back, he
already started his non-profit,
00:36:34.26\00:36:37.13
and it's running.
00:36:37.66\00:36:38.99
His wife is a seamstress
and they're actually doing that,
00:36:39.29\00:36:42.86
because in their
country that's something that
00:36:42.90\00:36:45.00
is a need and generates funds.
00:36:45.03\00:36:47.47
And through the Lord Send
Me, program we have already
00:36:47.57\00:36:49.97
provided for him $12,000
to start a lifestyle center
00:36:50.01\00:36:53.38
in Nigeria.
00:36:53.41\00:36:54.74
Wow, what a blessing.
00:36:54.78\00:36:56.98
What a blessing. That's amazing.
00:36:57.45\00:36:59.81
And so, he took what
he learned at your school
00:37:00.12\00:37:04.32
and is applying
it in his country,
00:37:04.35\00:37:07.52
and winning souls for
the Lord at the same time.
00:37:07.72\00:37:10.99
~ Definitely. And we continue
to mentor and provide support,
00:37:11.03\00:37:14.56
because the idea is to multiply
these centers of influence
00:37:14.66\00:37:18.03
to share the gospel.
00:37:18.13\00:37:19.47
~ That is beautiful.
00:37:19.50\00:37:20.84
How did you decide to do this?
00:37:20.87\00:37:22.20
How did you personally,
how did you decide that you
00:37:22.24\00:37:25.87
wanted to be the
president of Hartland?
00:37:25.91\00:37:30.08
I know they chose you,
but I mean, why Hartland?
00:37:30.68\00:37:33.52
Why did you chose Hartland?
00:37:33.55\00:37:35.12
Back in 1994, I
had the opportunity to
00:37:35.42\00:37:38.55
volunteer at Hartland.
00:37:38.59\00:37:39.92
My wife as well.
00:37:39.95\00:37:41.29
At that time we
were still not married.
00:37:41.32\00:37:43.22
We were engaged.
00:37:43.26\00:37:44.59
And when I saw the college,
I saw what was being done,
00:37:44.63\00:37:49.53
it ignited a vision of
doing the same in South America.
00:37:49.76\00:37:54.24
So we went back,
and in the year 1996
00:37:54.50\00:37:58.94
we were donated a
piece of property in Colombia
00:37:59.04\00:38:01.74
and we started a
school project from scratch.
00:38:01.78\00:38:04.41
The Lord blessed. It grew.
00:38:04.45\00:38:05.78
We had 85 students, we had
two vegetarian restaurants,
00:38:05.81\00:38:08.55
a lifestyle
center, we had a farm,
00:38:08.75\00:38:11.89
a printing press operation.
00:38:11.92\00:38:13.62
And when we were at our heyday,
then we received a phone call
00:38:13.86\00:38:19.33
from Hartland's
nominating committee
00:38:19.36\00:38:21.20
if our name could
be added to the list.
00:38:21.30\00:38:25.80
And we prayed about it,
but we saw that if this is
00:38:26.57\00:38:29.27
God's leading, this
will offer us an opportunity
00:38:29.30\00:38:32.44
to take an educational
institution that has a
00:38:32.84\00:38:37.18
wider sphere of
influence that is in America,
00:38:37.21\00:38:39.58
a land where a lot
of people can come,
00:38:39.61\00:38:41.68
where more
opportunities are available,
00:38:41.72\00:38:44.22
and really establish a
modern version of Madison.
00:38:44.49\00:38:48.56
What we are now
calling Madison 2.0.
00:38:48.59\00:38:51.66
So that's where
Madison 2.0 comes in.
00:38:52.93\00:38:55.53
Very good, very good.
00:38:57.47\00:38:59.50
And how would you say being
there, all of you, how would
00:38:59.60\00:39:04.01
say that being at
Hartland has impacted
00:39:04.04\00:39:06.27
you personally, spiritually?
00:39:06.31\00:39:08.41
Well, I'll start with that.
00:39:09.74\00:39:11.18
It has made, it has
impacted me spiritually
00:39:11.21\00:39:14.05
in a great way because of
constant dependence on God.
00:39:14.08\00:39:17.75
Because coming from 15 years
of ministry in South America,
00:39:18.15\00:39:23.29
basically, I had no connections
in the United States.
00:39:23.79\00:39:26.03
We had no connections.
00:39:26.06\00:39:27.40
We were coming to a
different organization
00:39:27.56\00:39:30.33
from one where we were
the founding presidents
00:39:30.53\00:39:33.10
to one where it
was already running
00:39:33.13\00:39:35.10
and it's a different
organizational culture.
00:39:35.14\00:39:37.91
We were also coming to a
ministry that had a certain
00:39:37.94\00:39:41.11
focus, and we wanted
to build on their past,
00:39:41.14\00:39:43.85
but then move beyond to
face the current challenges
00:39:43.88\00:39:46.68
and open further doors of
opportunity for our graduates.
00:39:46.72\00:39:50.12
So this was a major challenge.
00:39:50.22\00:39:52.52
And often I was saying,
"Lord, I know this is what
00:39:52.55\00:39:54.99
we have to do, but why me?
00:39:55.02\00:39:57.43
Why us?"
00:39:57.46\00:39:58.79
And it would bring
us to our knees to pray,
00:39:58.83\00:40:00.63
"God, we need to see
that cloud during the day
00:40:00.83\00:40:04.40
and that pillar of
fire during the night."
00:40:04.43\00:40:06.40
And if we see that, then we
can continue moving forward.
00:40:06.60\00:40:09.60
And He had led.
00:40:09.64\00:40:10.97
And He has brought together
an amazing team of people
00:40:11.01\00:40:14.44
like Jesse, and we
could mention many others
00:40:14.54\00:40:16.98
who are now part of our team.
00:40:17.01\00:40:18.48
It's a miracle to have these
people who are professionals,
00:40:18.51\00:40:22.02
who are experts in their
fields, who have experience,
00:40:22.05\00:40:24.75
and who also have a
passion for soul winning.
00:40:24.79\00:40:27.46
Yes. And you have to have both.
00:40:27.49\00:40:29.96
You have to have both.
00:40:30.49\00:40:31.83
It can't be where
this is just a job.
00:40:31.86\00:40:36.10
But this is a calling.
00:40:36.46\00:40:37.87
~ It is a calling. -
You are called to do this.
00:40:37.90\00:40:40.54
What about you, sister Ivonne?
00:40:41.10\00:40:42.60
~ Well, for me, it
has been a spiritual
00:40:42.87\00:40:45.84
challenge from the Lord.
00:40:46.88\00:40:48.61
And I personally believe
that there is a master plan.
00:40:48.64\00:40:51.58
And the master plan is in the
Bible and spirit of prophecy.
00:40:51.91\00:40:55.25
And what has been my joy
is to see other people with
00:40:55.28\00:40:58.82
the same vision
wanting to put into practice
00:40:58.85\00:41:00.89
what is already done.
00:41:00.92\00:41:02.26
We don't need to
make it. It's there.
00:41:02.29\00:41:03.69
Applies today? Absolutely.
00:41:04.33\00:41:06.33
Because the
principles of God apply
00:41:06.36\00:41:07.80
from Genesis to Revelation.
00:41:07.83\00:41:09.60
So it's exciting and a
spiritual growth process
00:41:09.70\00:41:13.10
where we can see God in His
Word and just us being obedient.
00:41:13.13\00:41:17.71
That's not the easy part.
00:41:17.74\00:41:19.21
It requires faith to
follow the master plan
00:41:19.77\00:41:22.94
and ask Him for
wisdom, because it's not human
00:41:22.98\00:41:25.68
to apply divine principles.
00:41:25.71\00:41:28.25
It has to be in His wisdom.
00:41:28.28\00:41:29.88
So this is exciting, Yvonne.
00:41:29.92\00:41:31.45
~ Oh, that's so
good. That's so good.
00:41:31.49\00:41:33.56
What about you, Jesse?
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So, you know, I started,
I grew up in Switzerland.
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I'm from Switzerland.
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But when I was 19,
I was called to start
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a ministry in
Honduras called, Vida.
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And I was a kid, you know.
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And my co-founder
from Honduras, José,
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he was even younger
than I was, you know.
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So we were trying to
help each other and figure out
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how to avoid as many
mistakes as we possibly could.
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But we made, you
know, more than enough.
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But that experience was really
an amazing experience for me
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because I was young,
I had no idea what I was
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getting myself into.
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Suddenly I was, like,
trying to figure out how to
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fund 20 missionaries, you
know, and how to fundraise,
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and how to
generate income, actually.
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It was there that I learned
the importance of business
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in sustainability of ministry.
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And actually the
ability to reach more people.
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The more scalable
our businesses are,
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the customers we
have, the more customers,
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the more people you
can reach, you know.
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So this is what I
really, really realized there.
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And that then, you know,
launched me into starting,
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getting more into business.
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We started a translation
company, you know, Cross Lingo,
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for Christian translations.
00:42:54.54\00:42:55.87
We did a lot of translations
for, like, Amazing Facts,
00:42:55.90\00:42:58.21
and Adventist
Review, and these companies.
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And also other Christian,
Wycliffe Bible Society,
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and so forth, you know.
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And then we got into,
like, a software company,
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and other companies, you know.
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And then I got
excited about business.
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And I started doing
this, like, trying to integrate
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missional entrepreneurship,
mission and entrepreneurship
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together, not for
the sake of making money,
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but really for the sake
of reaching more people.
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And so, but I felt like
somewhat of a loner, you know.
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Just doing it myself.
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And we started a
community called, Hyve,
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Hyve International,
where we gather Adventist
00:43:33.94\00:43:38.85
missional entrepreneurs
into this business directory.
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We gather other people
and educate other businesses
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or business
people, entrepreneurs,
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on how to do ministry.
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But still feeling
like, you know, alone.
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You know, like feeling
like I'm just doing this
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and now I'm getting
more people involved.
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And that was good.
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But when I met
Norbert, and he was sharing
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his vision about Hartland
and what he wants to do here,
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and I'm like, this is
exactly down my alley, you know.
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This is exactly what I've
been thinking and praying about
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for the last 15 years, you know.
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And now he's like, "It's nice
for you to just do it yourself,
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but let's train other
people to do it systematically.
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And Hartland is
the place to do it."
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And so I'm like, you know...
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~ How long ago was that?
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How can I say no, you
know? How can I say no to that?
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- How long ago was that?
- That was about a year ago.
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Okay.
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Alright, well you're obviously
really passionate about it.
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No, but that's what it takes.
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If you all were just
sitting there saying,
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"Yeah, Hartland
is a good school."
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You know, I mean, no
one would get excited.
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But it's exciting.
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What you're doing, to
me is really exciting.
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Because, again, you
are getting the gospel out
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and teaching people how...
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You're giving them a
way to be self-sustaining.
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self-supporting, and
yet getting that gospel out.
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What about you, Yafet?
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You know, it's a hard question,
but I'll answer it by saying
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that in a life and health
coach class, we were asked,
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if there was one
thing that you could change
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in this world that you could
do that you had control to do,
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what would it be?
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And my answer is, to help
people to understand themselves.
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Yeah, self-knowledge.
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That's the greatest
knowledge that we can have.
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And for me personally, I
know that's what I've gleaned
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at Hartland College.
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I'm going to be leaving a
completely different person
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than what I came as
because of a result of,
00:45:42.87\00:45:46.41
as a result of who I
realized I needed to become like
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and who I actually was.
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And I'm so thankful.
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It's a humbling
experience, for sure.
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But it's actually one that I
would never want to go without.
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Because it helped me to
realize my great need of Christ
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and the beautiful
future that God has for me,
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and for every individual.
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Hartland is just a
platform for people
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to recognize who God
has called them to be,
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and then to give them
that nudge into the future
00:46:15.37\00:46:17.81
that God has for them.
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And I'm very privileged
to be able to do that.
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~ That is
beautiful. That is beautiful.
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You have a couple of stories
about some students, right?
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~ Definitely. And I
want to kind of bring in here
00:46:27.48\00:46:30.19
a very personal story for us.
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It's also connected with Jesse.
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I'm a PK, a pastor's kid.
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I'm a third
generation Seventh-day Adventist
00:46:37.89\00:46:40.06
coming from
Colombia South America.
00:46:40.46\00:46:42.46
And one of the challenges
you have as a parent as well
00:46:42.66\00:46:46.03
is, how can we
give this enthusiasm
00:46:46.07\00:46:50.57
to the next generation
to be involved in ministry,
00:46:50.61\00:46:54.24
while at the same time
being relevant to what they
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feel is their calling in life.
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And I praise the Lord
that our eldest daughter,
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as she went through Hartland
College she studied media,
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but when she took the
class of self-supporting work,
00:47:05.95\00:47:09.39
as we called it back
then, Ministry in Leadership,
00:47:09.42\00:47:11.89
Missional Entrepreneurship,
she decided to develop
00:47:11.93\00:47:15.63
a project of how to
start a vegetarian restaurant.
00:47:15.66\00:47:18.33
And not only did she
develop a business plan,
00:47:19.07\00:47:22.00
but shortly after she graduated,
after following her mom's
00:47:22.04\00:47:26.11
and dad's counsel, she
worked at a restaurant for
00:47:26.14\00:47:28.44
8 months and then she
started her own restaurant
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just 50 minutes away from
Hartland and Fredericksburg.
00:47:31.38\00:47:35.35
This was a big,
you know, endeavor.
00:47:35.55\00:47:39.42
I tried to
encourage, discourage her.
00:47:40.12\00:47:42.72
See, you know that combination.
00:47:42.76\00:47:44.83
Because I knew
what that implied.
00:47:45.83\00:47:48.26
But she went forward.
00:47:48.30\00:47:49.63
She was struggling
with this, Covid hit,
00:47:49.66\00:47:52.07
it was a big challenge.
00:47:52.10\00:47:53.57
But at that time I
reached out to Jesse.
00:47:53.60\00:47:58.04
And Jesse was working
with Hyve International,
00:47:58.14\00:48:00.94
this ministry that he
started and was mentioning
00:48:00.98\00:48:03.21
with a group of colleagues
that were experts in business.
00:48:03.24\00:48:06.55
And they were willing
to coach our daughter.
00:48:06.72\00:48:09.45
So she built on the knowledge
she received at Hartland
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with business
coaching from Hyve.
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And now the Lord has
lead her to develop a product
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for which there is a
special niche, empanadas,
00:48:20.13\00:48:23.47
and she's doing
that in Colorado.
00:48:23.50\00:48:25.40
Her husband
works at Eden Valley.
00:48:26.13\00:48:27.87
And it's just amazing to
see the whole development.
00:48:27.97\00:48:30.51
But as we saw the
result and how God blessed
00:48:30.91\00:48:33.41
and is opening doors
for her to do ministry
00:48:33.44\00:48:35.94
and business together, we
thought, we need to give this
00:48:36.14\00:48:39.45
opportunity to
many other young people.
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And God has given me
some talents, but he has given
00:48:42.08\00:48:45.05
Jesse and others great
talents, and that's how,
00:48:45.09\00:48:48.12
that was another
avenue to bring us together.
00:48:48.16\00:48:50.13
And I'm so thankful to
Jesse that he was willing to,
00:48:50.16\00:48:52.29
well let's use this as a
platform to bless many other
00:48:52.33\00:48:55.03
young people who have a
passion to do something.
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We're going to enable them
to do this, and for the Lord.
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~ Oh, that's beautiful.
00:49:01.57\00:49:02.90
And I'd like for us to
put your daughter's picture
00:49:02.94\00:49:05.01
back up there just for a second.
00:49:05.04\00:49:06.47
Is she at the
restaurant right there?
00:49:06.51\00:49:08.64
Is that the restaurant?
00:49:08.68\00:49:10.01
So that picture
was at the restaurant
00:49:10.05\00:49:12.11
when the project started.
00:49:12.15\00:49:14.88
And now she has,
that project migrated
00:49:15.58\00:49:19.12
to an empanada business
that sells frozen products
00:49:19.39\00:49:23.99
that are precooked in
five different flavors.
00:49:24.03\00:49:26.93
And it's a booming
project now in Colorado.
00:49:27.00\00:49:32.43
~ Wow, I hope you
brought us some here today.
00:49:32.53\00:49:34.87
~ Next time, next
time we'll bring you some.
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And we'll bring
her as well with us.
00:49:38.24\00:49:39.81
We'll bring her
and the empanadas.
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That will be
great. That will be great.
00:49:41.38\00:49:42.71
So as we close now,
our time is almost up,
00:49:42.81\00:49:46.21
which is amazing, just
give us a closing thought,
00:49:46.25\00:49:50.12
each of you, about
Hartland and about what the Lord
00:49:50.15\00:49:53.69
would have, in about 30 seconds
because we're out of time.
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~ Sure.
00:49:57.59\00:49:58.93
- Actually 10 seconds. ~ Okay.
00:49:59.09\00:50:00.63
~ So our vision is to be
able to help young people
00:50:00.66\00:50:04.73
graduate debt free
without having to depend
00:50:04.77\00:50:08.20
on things that will hold
them back from being successful.
00:50:08.24\00:50:11.74
To obtain an
education that is holistic,
00:50:12.24\00:50:14.78
that combines all the
academics, accredited,
00:50:14.81\00:50:17.71
with practical
training, and soul-winning.
00:50:17.75\00:50:20.12
And to be able to accomplish
this while being at school,
00:50:20.15\00:50:23.69
that is our vision.
00:50:23.79\00:50:25.12
A lot of students
want to go to school,
00:50:25.15\00:50:26.72
but they don't know how
to pay their way through it
00:50:26.76\00:50:28.59
unless they have
these big hefty loans.
00:50:28.62\00:50:30.93
That is our project and
this is what we're offering
00:50:31.36\00:50:33.60
at Hartland college.
00:50:33.63\00:50:34.96
And with the purpose that with
all the skills that they learn
00:50:35.00\00:50:37.97
they will always be
combined with mission
00:50:38.00\00:50:40.17
to share the everlasting gospel.
00:50:40.20\00:50:42.00
~ That's great.
00:50:42.04\00:50:43.37
Sister Ivonne.
00:50:43.51\00:50:44.84
Well, we just really want to
claim the Seventh-day Adventist
00:50:44.87\00:50:51.88
educational message.
00:50:52.88\00:50:55.05
We have an identity
and we want to follow that.
00:50:55.08\00:50:57.99
And we need the
prayers, the support, because
00:50:58.09\00:51:02.39
we believe that it's possible.
00:51:02.42\00:51:04.83
~ Yes.
00:51:04.86\00:51:06.19
Brother Jesse.
00:51:06.33\00:51:07.66
Well, I would tell any
young people, if you want to
00:51:07.70\00:51:09.73
start a business, but
not just for money sake,
00:51:09.76\00:51:13.07
but actually for mission sake,
00:51:13.10\00:51:15.27
you know, then this
is the best education.
00:51:15.50\00:51:18.21
You know, I'm looking
forward to sending my kid
00:51:18.24\00:51:21.28
to Hartland, you know.
00:51:21.31\00:51:22.64
And he's only 5
years old and a 2-year-old.
00:51:24.01\00:51:27.05
But once they grow
up, you know, this is...
00:51:27.08\00:51:29.75
I'm very excited about it.
00:51:29.78\00:51:31.72
I think many
people will be blessed.
00:51:31.75\00:51:35.36
We want our kids to really
fall in love with the message,
00:51:35.52\00:51:39.09
fall in love with mission work,
00:51:39.13\00:51:41.60
and still, be
relevant in society.
00:51:41.90\00:51:44.50
I'm going to come
back to you, Yafet.
00:51:45.37\00:51:46.94
I know that you want to
know how to reach Hartland.
00:51:46.97\00:51:50.41
Take a look.
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If you would like to
contact or know more about
00:51:53.01\00:51:55.21
Hartland College, you can
do so in the following ways.
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