¤ ¤ 00:00:01.36\00:00:05.33 I want to spend my life mending broken people. 00:00:05.37\00:00:15.74 I want to spend my life removing pain. 00:00:15.78\00:00:26.69 Lord let my words heal a heart that hurts. 00:00:26.72\00:00:37.07 I want to spend my life mending broken people. 00:00:37.10\00:00:57.29 ¤ ¤ 00:00:57.32\00:01:07.26 Hello and welcome to 3ABN Today. My name is Yvonne Shelton and 00:01:07.30\00:01:11.50 I'm so happy that you've chosen to join us today. We have a 00:01:11.53\00:01:15.24 wonderful program for you. You're going to be blessed, 00:01:15.27\00:01:18.24 you're going to be informed, you're going to be enlightened, 00:01:18.27\00:01:20.74 you're going to be inspired by our guests. And so we just want 00:01:20.78\00:01:25.31 you to know that the Lord is with us, He's with you. He will 00:01:25.35\00:01:30.92 never leave you nor forsake you. And so today we're going to talk 00:01:30.95\00:01:34.92 about how God has blessed this ministry and how the harvest 00:01:34.96\00:01:39.29 from this ministry has been so fruitful. Matthew 9 verses 37 00:01:39.33\00:01:45.53 and 38 says: Then He said (talking about Jesus) Then He 00:01:45.57\00:01:49.47 said to His disciples, The harvest truly is plentiful, but 00:01:49.50\00:01:53.61 the laborers are few. Therefore pray the Lord of the harvest 00:01:53.64\00:01:57.61 to send out laborers into his harvest. And today we have 00:01:57.65\00:02:04.12 laborers from the Lord's harvest We have with us Heidi Tompkins 00:02:04.15\00:02:10.09 and Ivan Raj of Heidi's Health Kitchen. And they're cofounders. 00:02:10.13\00:02:16.06 Heidi is the CFO, Ivan is the CEO. You guys work together and 00:02:16.10\00:02:20.57 together the Lord is yielding such an amazing harvest. And so 00:02:20.60\00:02:25.31 today we're going to talk about that harvest and what God is 00:02:25.34\00:02:30.25 doing. But before we do that we have some wonderful music from 00:02:30.28\00:02:33.65 our beloved Martha DeLuna. 00:02:33.68\00:02:36.65 ¤ ¤ This is My Father's World Martha DeLuna on the harp. 00:02:36.69\00:05:13.01 Thank you, Martha. This is my Father's world. What a beautiful 00:05:13.04\00:05:17.15 song and we really appreciate Martha's ministry. So let us 00:05:17.18\00:05:22.85 talk about Heidi's Kitchen. Heidi's Health Kitchen. We have 00:05:22.88\00:05:27.66 a video actually that kind of gives some background. Let's 00:05:27.69\00:05:31.83 take a look at that and then we'll talk about it. Okay. 00:05:31.86\00:05:35.10 Eight years ago Heidi's Health Kitchen was founded in Brooklyn, 00:05:35.13\00:05:38.07 New York as a hybrid model of Christ-centered business 00:05:38.10\00:05:42.67 supporting a Christ-centered ministry. As a business, our 00:05:42.70\00:05:46.98 products include Carubies, delicious carob truffles, 00:05:47.01\00:05:52.11 Carubella a decadent carob spread, raw mock tuna, our award 00:05:52.15\00:05:57.92 winning product, V-Chick 7, a jackfruit based Indian flavored 00:05:57.95\00:06:04.89 meat, V-chick Tandoori drumsticks, a meat substitute 00:06:04.93\00:06:09.13 with higher protein and delicious Indian spices, 00:06:09.16\00:06:12.23 Figspresso, a delicious roasted fig-based coffee alternative. 00:06:12.27\00:06:17.71 These products have been loved by our customers across the 00:06:17.74\00:06:22.01 nation and each purchase in turn has supported our gospel work 00:06:22.04\00:06:25.51 locally and internationally. During COVID-19 God has 00:06:25.55\00:06:35.12 sustained and expanded, both our business and our ministry. It 00:06:35.16\00:06:38.23 has been a blessing to serve our patrons as well as each one of 00:06:38.26\00:06:41.70 our Bible students. 00:06:41.73\00:06:44.63 I have been really, really blessed by some friends that 00:06:44.67\00:06:48.44 happen to also be our entrepreneurs and they are 00:06:48.47\00:06:53.38 owners and directly involved in the everyday promotion and 00:06:53.41\00:07:00.65 creation of all of the products called Heidi's Health food 00:07:00.68\00:07:02.85 Kitchen. I just feel like everything that they have to 00:07:02.88\00:07:06.25 offer to me has always been not about money but about my health 00:07:06.29\00:07:09.56 my spiritual health as well as food. It's a great honor to not 00:07:09.59\00:07:12.89 only be friends with them but to be able to support Heidi's 00:07:12.93\00:07:16.16 Health food Kitchen's mission, which is for Christ and for 00:07:16.20\00:07:20.67 healthy living and body and they are definitely changing my life 00:07:20.70\00:07:22.54 and my children's and the people they contact. I thank them very 00:07:22.57\00:07:26.78 much for their huge contribution 00:07:26.81\00:07:28.84 I came to this Bible study because, well it was actually to 00:07:28.88\00:07:32.38 help my sister with her kids but it turned out to be very 00:07:32.41\00:07:36.42 informative. I really like the way he puts history to match 00:07:36.45\00:07:42.39 like what the Bible is saying and he explains a lot of things 00:07:42.42\00:07:46.76 that a lot of like religions like I grew up Baptist and they 00:07:46.80\00:07:51.03 couldn't explain like how three beings to be one. And I just 00:07:51.07\00:07:56.04 think it was really informative. And he has a lot of patience to 00:07:56.07\00:08:00.31 explain things. 00:08:00.34\00:08:04.11 I first met brother Ivan in a debate. I told him that Seventh- 00:08:09.95\00:08:19.63 day Adventist is a cult. I don't believe in SDA. We started a 00:08:19.66\00:08:24.03 conversation and he started explaining to me their beliefs, 00:08:24.07\00:08:29.60 the Seventh-day beliefs. I told him it was like 00:08:29.64\00:08:35.01 salvation by grace. 00:08:35.04\00:08:38.21 ¤ ¤ 00:08:38.25\00:10:03.87 I went to Heidi's Health ministry and I have become a 00:10:03.90\00:10:07.44 part of it that not only were the scriptural understandings 00:10:07.47\00:10:11.04 that I had developed and understood from my reading of 00:10:11.07\00:10:15.51 scripture and alone time with God. 00:10:15.54\00:10:16.88 They were confirmed and not only were they 00:10:20.38\00:10:21.72 confirmed, God had furthered my understanding of the work that 00:10:21.75\00:10:24.35 He wanted me to do. So I'm grateful for everything that has 00:10:24.39\00:10:27.62 happened in my life because of God and Heidi's Health Kitchen. 00:10:27.66\00:10:31.89 I've been a fitness professional for 20-plus years. As a personal 00:10:31.93\00:10:37.03 trainer diet and lifestyle are very important to me. So during 00:10:37.07\00:10:40.90 the lockdowns I went to Bible study at Heidi's Health Kitchen 00:10:40.94\00:10:44.64 I was introduced to Ellen White's writings on the diet and 00:10:44.67\00:10:48.94 health message and as a fitness professional I was amazed at the 00:10:48.98\00:10:56.02 knowledge that she had. I was like, Wow this woman was really 00:10:56.05\00:11:01.19 ahead of her time. I was very impressed and this is 00:11:01.22\00:11:06.73 information that we've been first starting to implement in 00:11:06.76\00:11:13.00 the past 20 years. I'm grateful for Heidi's Health Kitchen and 00:11:13.03\00:11:17.87 for the time that they invested in me to teach me about health 00:11:17.91\00:11:21.58 and fitness from a biblical and spiritual standpoint. I then 00:11:21.61\00:11:27.55 decided to get baptized in October of 2020. 00:11:27.58\00:11:32.82 Heidi's Health Kitchen supports a ministry in India in various 00:11:32.85\00:11:34.92 ways including providing regular mentorship to their staff. This 00:11:34.96\00:11:39.96 school has recently led over 40 souls to baptism amongst their 00:11:40.00\00:11:44.47 many other efforts. 00:11:44.50\00:11:46.07 ¤ ¤ 00:11:46.10\00:11:54.91 Wow, look at that. Look at God. Look at how He's brought your 00:11:54.94\00:12:00.78 ministry. It's a business but it's a ministry. Let's talk 00:12:00.82\00:12:05.15 about how you got started, where this all came from. Let's start 00:12:05.19\00:12:09.16 with you Heidi. 00:12:09.19\00:12:10.53 Sure. Well we were Bible workers and we really needed just a way 00:12:10.56\00:12:16.40 to support our Bible work and God provided that. 00:12:16.43\00:12:19.80 Wow, so He provided it through... 00:12:19.83\00:12:24.34 Through giving us products to support our work. 00:12:24.37\00:12:29.08 So you were teaching, you were giving Bible studies first 00:12:29.11\00:12:30.95 (correct) before you were into the whole kitchen (yeah) Because 00:12:30.98\00:12:34.68 you've been on 3ABN, both of you several times but there are some 00:12:34.72\00:12:37.95 viewers who are not familiar with your story. So kind of 00:12:37.99\00:12:41.52 catch up a little bit on you know... 00:12:41.56\00:12:43.93 Sure. So we actually only were doing some Bible work in New 00:12:43.96\00:12:48.46 York City and God put in my mind to start a health food based 00:12:48.50\00:12:55.14 business to fund our ministry. I reached out to Heidi regarding 00:12:55.17\00:13:02.18 that and then she said sure let's do it. So then she shared 00:13:02.21\00:13:05.95 the products that she had made in the past which people have 00:13:05.98\00:13:09.22 loved and enjoyed. And then we decided to take it as a business 00:13:09.25\00:13:12.92 or make it as a business. And God has blessed us through the 00:13:12.95\00:13:17.96 sales of these products to support our Bible work, locally 00:13:17.99\00:13:21.63 and internationally. 00:13:21.66\00:13:23.00 That's wonderful. And we have some products right here. (Yes) 00:13:23.03\00:13:25.77 Tell us about these. 00:13:25.80\00:13:27.57 It all started with carob, but we started making carob truffles 00:13:27.60\00:13:32.47 and I prayed and I just asked God for more flavors and I would 00:13:32.51\00:13:37.15 with the recipe like downloaded in my brain and I would just 00:13:37.18\00:13:41.58 make them, one shot, no experimenting, and we have eight 00:13:41.62\00:13:44.95 flavors today, three different assortments. They're absolutely 00:13:44.99\00:13:49.62 amazing. They're called Carubies Carob Truffles. 00:13:49.66\00:13:52.09 I love it. I love it. 00:13:52.13\00:13:54.30 And then a little bit later I wanted to have a carob spread 00:13:54.33\00:13:58.13 so I prayed about that and so God gave us Carubella, woke up 00:13:58.17\00:14:03.10 with the recipe downloaded in my brain and this is like a vegan 00:14:03.14\00:14:08.48 Nutella. Instead of chocolate and hazelnut it's carob. Yeah. 00:14:08.51\00:14:12.75 Are these free samples, I'm just saying. 00:14:12.78\00:14:18.25 We do have some samples that you can have. 00:14:18.29\00:14:20.09 Okay great. 00:14:20.12\00:14:21.46 We also have Figspresso. It's a roasted fig beverage and so it's 00:14:21.49\00:14:26.53 made from organic figs. They're sun-dried, roasted, and ground 00:14:26.56\00:14:30.70 and you brew it however you'd brew coffee or we have 00:14:30.73\00:14:33.50 instructions on the back if you don't have a coffee maker. 00:14:33.54\00:14:37.07 We also sell some products in bulk because like for example 00:14:37.11\00:14:42.44 one of our flavors of Carubies is Black Forest and we flavor 00:14:42.48\00:14:46.51 that with a sweet almond oil and there's a tart Montmorency 00:14:46.55\00:14:49.92 cherry in the center of each and just some of our bulk 00:14:49.95\00:14:53.32 ingredients we just sell at a really good price because we can 00:14:53.36\00:14:56.02 And we also make granola. We started a line of granola. We 00:14:56.06\00:15:00.70 have blueberry maple which we actually very first debuted at 00:15:00.73\00:15:05.17 the 2017 camp meeting when we cooked for the fall camp meeting 00:15:05.20\00:15:09.47 for 3ABN. I made two different varieties of granola and there 00:15:09.50\00:15:16.31 were actually three specific families that loved it and they 00:15:16.34\00:15:20.62 said can we buy whatever you have left and they did. And so 00:15:20.65\00:15:24.29 we decided, you know what, we need to sell it. We are selling 00:15:24.32\00:15:29.29 granola now as well plus the other products that the viewers 00:15:29.32\00:15:32.19 saw in the video. 00:15:32.23\00:15:33.56 Wow, that is an incredible... So how have you been able to 00:15:33.60\00:15:38.23 tie these health products into ministry? Because it's a 00:15:38.27\00:15:46.27 business, right, your model is a business model so a for-profit 00:15:46.31\00:15:49.71 model. But it's used to fund your ministry. (Yeah) Let's hear 00:15:49.74\00:15:54.72 about your ministry activities and what you're using the funds 00:15:54.75\00:15:58.62 from these products for to (indistinct) 00:15:58.65\00:16:01.89 Yeah the purchase of every product directly funds these 00:16:01.92\00:16:04.69 ministry activities. 00:16:04.73\00:16:09.33 Yes, so basically when we offer Bible studies we also make sure 00:16:09.36\00:16:13.44 that they have Bible study lesson guides, Bible study 00:16:13.47\00:16:18.97 guides. So we make purchases on behalf of the student and then 00:16:19.01\00:16:24.31 we also travel to them certain times and also we cook for them 00:16:24.35\00:16:28.52 to help them transition from eating unclean foods into plant 00:16:28.55\00:16:34.62 based as established by God. 00:16:34.66\00:16:36.79 That is so great, that is so great. We just went through you 00:16:36.83\00:16:43.33 know over the past couple of years the pandemic. And I know 00:16:43.37\00:16:48.60 you guys have really worked through that. Tell us what you 00:16:48.64\00:16:53.44 did through COVID. 00:16:53.48\00:16:54.81 Yes so thank God we didn't have a restaurant although many 00:16:54.84\00:17:00.22 people were inspiring us and encouraging us to start a 00:17:00.25\00:17:03.99 restaurant. As a matter of fact we have a picture of Heidi 00:17:04.02\00:17:06.39 winning an award at a restaurant show, at the New York restaurant 00:17:06.42\00:17:12.69 show in 2018 I believe. (There it is) And then one of the 00:17:12.73\00:17:19.63 judges there at the contest was a celebrity chef and he said, 00:17:19.67\00:17:23.51 I'll fund your restaurant if you want to start one. He is a 00:17:23.54\00:17:26.98 multimillionaire, but obviously we are told by God not to be 00:17:27.01\00:17:33.38 unequally yoked. So his plan was different and our plan was 00:17:33.42\00:17:38.52 mission-minded, Christ-focused but his was more of a world 00:17:38.55\00:17:43.93 centered. So we rejected that. It was a good temptation. I mean 00:17:43.96\00:17:49.50 it was a good temptation in the sense like it was a big 00:17:49.53\00:17:51.43 temptation. (Right) But we all came back. Thank God during 00:17:51.47\00:18:00.78 COVID our sales increased a lot. We were very, very busy. In fact 00:18:00.81\00:18:05.91 our highest profit percentage happened during the COVID 00:18:05.95\00:18:11.39 lockdowns. 00:18:11.42\00:18:12.75 Wow, my. It's so interesting to me that Satan comes in different 00:18:12.79\00:18:17.09 ways and you might have needed some extra money to do this 00:18:17.13\00:18:23.57 project but the Lord said no. (Two voices) 00:18:23.60\00:18:27.64 Yeah, I'm praying about it. You know we were praying for this 00:18:27.67\00:18:31.11 man, this celebrity chef, because you know we're not 00:18:31.14\00:18:35.08 going to be open on Sabbath, I don't care who's funding it you 00:18:35.11\00:18:37.65 know (Right, right) And so you know we really prayed about 00:18:37.68\00:18:41.42 these things, you know, and if God would soften his heart to 00:18:41.45\00:18:45.89 make him open to these things and so forth. As we had further 00:18:45.92\00:18:51.56 discussions with him it was very clear and obvious that he 00:18:51.59\00:18:56.53 was wanting to just make it like another of his other 27 or 30 00:18:56.56\00:19:00.94 restaurants and so the mission would be lost and so... 00:19:00.97\00:19:06.81 The focus on mission would be lost. (Right, correct) 00:19:06.84\00:19:10.48 Yes, and that's the thing. The devil will do different things 00:19:10.51\00:19:15.95 to distract us from the mission that God has on and so you said 00:19:15.98\00:19:23.36 no, because you felt led by the Lord and He's going to provide 00:19:23.39\00:19:26.70 for you anyway. 00:19:26.73\00:19:28.06 Absolutely. And we thank God for the opportunity to have 00:19:28.10\00:19:30.03 these discussions with this guy to witness to him, to pray about 00:19:30.07\00:19:34.60 to pray for him. Who knows. Maybe no one in his life is 00:19:34.64\00:19:37.94 praying for him. We don't know, right? (Very true) And so we 00:19:37.97\00:19:40.81 just thank God for that opportunity and the discussions 00:19:40.84\00:19:46.78 that did happen. 00:19:46.82\00:19:48.15 And I'm sure that standing for what you felt the Lord was 00:19:48.18\00:19:52.49 having you to do, people respect that (Yes) you know that you 00:19:52.52\00:19:57.66 could not be bought (right) but that you stood for what you knew 00:19:57.69\00:20:01.86 to be right. The Lord honors that and I think people respect 00:20:01.90\00:20:07.84 that. And I think that your having this ministry that looks 00:20:07.87\00:20:11.94 at the whole person. You know you're treating the physical 00:20:11.97\00:20:16.28 aspect with this health products and also the spiritual with the 00:20:16.31\00:20:19.61 Bible studies. You're tying it all together which is a great 00:20:19.65\00:20:23.85 thing. You had an experience Heidi, a prodigal daughter 00:20:23.89\00:20:27.16 experience. Tell us about that. 00:20:27.19\00:20:28.52 Yes, my sister has an amazing story and Ivan and I have been 00:20:28.56\00:20:32.63 working with her and Ivan actually interviewed her and 00:20:32.66\00:20:36.97 has really done very good in counseling her and talking to 00:20:37.00\00:20:42.74 her. So Ivan would you share more about her story? 00:20:42.77\00:20:45.94 Sure. So Heidi's sister was raised an Adventist, obviously 00:20:45.97\00:20:51.35 Heidi also, but in her teens, late teens, she attended a 00:20:51.38\00:20:57.92 seminar on prophecies and the Adventist pastor presented about 00:20:57.95\00:21:02.56 the national Sunday law. And then she noted on all the points 00:21:02.59\00:21:07.00 as to why those Bible prophecies about the national Sunday law 00:21:07.03\00:21:11.80 will not happen. And she gave it to her dad. But after a few 00:21:11.83\00:21:17.24 decades, a couple of decades, after she observed what happened 00:21:17.27\00:21:22.28 during the pandemic, she came to the realization that it is 00:21:22.31\00:21:27.68 indeed possible that Bible prophecies regarding national 00:21:27.72\00:21:30.79 Sunday law is 100 percent possible. And therefore she has 00:21:30.82\00:21:37.23 left her worldly lifestyle and she has switched into for 00:21:37.26\00:21:42.26 example stopped eating unclean foods now eats only clean foods 00:21:42.30\00:21:46.67 stopped other worldly activities and then she also has been 00:21:46.70\00:21:53.01 observing the Sabbath as well. And she has developed a personal 00:21:53.04\00:21:58.91 relationship with God. So she basically left the church and 00:21:58.95\00:22:02.75 then came back to the church. 00:22:02.78\00:22:04.45 That is so beautiful, it's so beautiful...You know that sounds 00:22:04.49\00:22:11.03 similar to years ago when I was growing up and had the prophecy 00:22:11.06\00:22:14.80 seminars I used to think how is it that you won't be able to buy 00:22:14.83\00:22:18.70 or sell? I knew it was going to come to pass because the Bible 00:22:18.73\00:22:21.74 said so but it just seemed far fetched to me. And now it's so 00:22:21.77\00:22:28.14 obvious how it's going to happen and there's so many other things 00:22:28.18\00:22:31.51 that are so much more obvious now that we just never...We knew 00:22:31.55\00:22:36.79 it was going to happen but now we can see it before our very 00:22:36.82\00:22:41.96 eyes. Prophecy is being fulfilled before our very eyes. 00:22:41.99\00:22:44.66 At the time when that pastor came and spoke she had 00:22:44.69\00:22:48.96 aspirations to be a lawyer and even to be a supreme court judge 00:22:49.00\00:22:52.53 And so she was thinking, we have a supreme court. There's no way 00:22:52.57\00:22:56.34 these things are ever going to happen in our country. We have 00:22:56.37\00:22:58.77 a constitution, we have protection as citizens and she 00:22:58.81\00:23:04.75 just couldn't you know couldn't envision or couldn't imagine 00:23:04.78\00:23:07.15 that those things would ever be broken down. And so when they 00:23:07.18\00:23:11.45 began to be broken down and when rights were curtailed and so 00:23:11.49\00:23:16.19 forth then she remembered that. 00:23:16.22\00:23:19.13 She was a lawyer for 25 years. 00:23:19.16\00:23:20.60 Yes and she is a lawyer and so when she started observing the 00:23:20.63\00:23:26.50 things going on in the world and you know rights being taken away 00:23:26.53\00:23:30.74 In fact, she lives in New Jersey and she's very athletic. There's 00:23:30.77\00:23:35.64 a gym owner who was fined very, very heavily for remaining open 00:23:35.68\00:23:42.28 to allow people to come and work out at the gym, even if they 00:23:42.32\00:23:45.65 were wearing masks. Like he was being fined heavily for being 00:23:45.69\00:23:49.92 open. And then after that his bank account was frozen so he 00:23:49.96\00:23:55.20 couldn't even make his defense. He couldn't afford a defense. 00:23:55.23\00:23:58.13 And so she was seeing all these things going on and thinking wow 00:23:58.17\00:24:03.71 now I understand. These things are possible and the only way, 00:24:03.74\00:24:11.75 the only way we will survive is with God. 00:24:11.78\00:24:14.52 Yes that's so true and I know this story is so emotional for 00:24:14.55\00:24:18.95 you which is why you had Ivan share it because seeing your 00:24:18.99\00:24:24.33 sister now loving Jesus what... It's so amazing. I had the same 00:24:24.36\00:24:30.27 experience with my sister so you know knowing that she's 00:24:30.30\00:24:34.84 accepted the Lord and I mean that's just amazing. Now she's 00:24:34.87\00:24:39.54 doing law, I mean she's continuing to do law but she's 00:24:39.57\00:24:43.88 still...Now she's honoring Jesus through all of that. What a 00:24:43.91\00:24:47.25 blessing. (Yeah) 00:24:47.28\00:24:48.62 She's preparing for His advent. 00:24:48.65\00:24:50.02 Yes, that's so wonderful. And you've been involved in studies, 00:24:50.05\00:24:54.52 Bible studies, in the middle east and India. 00:24:54.56\00:24:57.26 Tell us about that. 00:24:57.29\00:24:58.63 Yeah, so we've had Bible studies for instance in the middle east 00:24:58.66\00:25:01.86 and obviously, I cannot mention the name of the country 00:25:01.90\00:25:05.70 but we did have baptisms there also. We sent Bible study 00:25:05.73\00:25:10.74 materials from here to that country in their own local 00:25:10.77\00:25:13.98 languages and we did a Bible study through the Google 00:25:14.01\00:25:18.28 translator. So I translated from English to their language and 00:25:18.31\00:25:22.92 they read it and they'll again translate in their language and 00:25:22.95\00:25:25.05 send back questions to me. So that led to two baptisms. So our 00:25:25.09\00:25:29.89 local conference and leadership there they went and they 00:25:29.92\00:25:33.13 baptized those two beautiful souls in the middle east. 00:25:33.16\00:25:36.60 That is so beautiful. What studies are you using? 00:25:36.63\00:25:40.07 Did you make them up yourself or are you using like a series? 00:25:40.10\00:25:44.34 We have a common lesson. It depends on the individual. It 00:25:44.37\00:25:48.91 is Written or Amazing Facts and we also have our own set of 00:25:48.94\00:25:52.11 Bible studies as well. So it depends on the person and the... 00:25:52.15\00:25:55.88 Or the language group as well. It Is Written has a lot of 00:25:55.92\00:25:58.82 different languages. 00:25:58.85\00:26:00.19 So for this group in the middle east we sent It Is Written study 00:26:00.22\00:26:03.63 guides. 00:26:03.66\00:26:04.99 That is so beautiful. I just love what you guys are doing 00:26:05.03\00:26:07.46 incorporating the physical and the spiritual and working with 00:26:07.50\00:26:12.37 people and getting them to know who Jesus is and then feel 00:26:12.40\00:26:17.51 better because they're eating better. I mean this is what the 00:26:17.54\00:26:21.38 Lord would have us to do so that's great. Tell us about Joe. 00:26:21.41\00:26:25.41 So, Joe, Joe is the brother of one of our team members back in 00:26:25.45\00:26:32.55 Long Island, Helen. 00:26:32.59\00:26:34.02 She's our manager. 00:26:34.06\00:26:35.69 She's our catering manager and popup restaurant manager. And 00:26:35.72\00:26:38.73 Helen was praying for Joe (her brother) her brother about a 00:26:38.76\00:26:44.03 year for God to reveal to him the Sabbath truth because they 00:26:44.07\00:26:49.00 couldn't talk about it. They disagreed you know and it just 00:26:49.04\00:26:51.54 brought conflict. You got to love it. So one day Joe was 00:26:51.57\00:26:58.38 outside and God spoke to him and revealed to him that the Sabbath 00:26:58.41\00:27:03.59 is the seventh day, Saturday and not Sunday. 00:27:03.62\00:27:06.62 We have a video, don't we? Let's take a look. 00:27:06.65\00:27:09.52 ¤ ¤ 00:27:09.56\00:27:15.53 I have been praying for a year (Helen Miller and Joe C) for my 00:27:15.56\00:27:19.93 brother to come to the truth about the Sabbath. I tried 00:27:19.97\00:27:23.10 speaking to him and we didn't always agree on what day was the 00:27:23.14\00:27:26.61 day of rest so I decided to take it to God and let Him handle it. 00:27:26.64\00:27:30.58 I had a specific prayer. I wanted God to reveal the Sabbath 00:27:30.61\00:27:35.72 truth to him so that was all I asked for in prayer for him. 00:27:35.75\00:27:39.75 And I just continued every night without fail for God to reveal 00:27:39.79\00:27:45.89 the Sabbath truth. He calls me up. He wants to talk about a few 00:27:45.93\00:27:51.13 things and we're on the phone and he says to me, Helen you 00:27:51.17\00:27:56.00 know, I know what day the Sabbath is the real Sabbath. 00:27:56.04\00:27:59.97 God revealed that to me. 00:28:00.01\00:28:01.94 I was going to a different church and we had our 00:28:01.98\00:28:07.65 differences in it and after a while we decided we really 00:28:07.68\00:28:12.49 didn't speak about it that much and stuff anymore. And then this 00:28:12.52\00:28:16.02 one day I was sitting outside and God started talking to me 00:28:16.06\00:28:20.36 and He started telling me about the Sabbath day. And everything 00:28:20.40\00:28:24.23 changed and I saw it in a different way. And I started 00:28:24.27\00:28:28.44 coming to Bible studies and I started learning the truth about 00:28:28.47\00:28:32.44 the Bible and seeing it in a different way. 00:28:32.47\00:28:36.28 What a blessing, right? From this we get so much. We get that 00:28:36.31\00:28:43.69 God hears our prayers, we get that He answers our prayers and 00:28:43.72\00:28:47.99 and he wants to save us more than...He wanted to save Joe 00:28:48.02\00:28:52.39 more than his sister even wanted him saved. (Yes) And so the 00:28:52.43\00:28:57.20 Lord imparted that truth, the Sabbath truth to him. 00:28:57.23\00:29:00.20 Initially, he just thought that okay so I'm keeping the wrong 00:29:00.24\00:29:04.51 day as a holy day. So now I'm keeping the right day according 00:29:04.54\00:29:09.94 to the Bible and then he thought I think life was good, it was 00:29:09.98\00:29:14.68 good and fine. But he kept coming back to our Bible studies 00:29:14.72\00:29:18.49 and here's oh state of the dead. That's a new concept according 00:29:18.52\00:29:23.89 to the Bible for him because what he had understood about 00:29:23.93\00:29:26.43 that is completely different from what the Bible says. 00:29:26.46\00:29:28.96 And then the millennium and then about the gift of tongues and 00:29:29.00\00:29:33.80 about the sanctuary, about mark of the beast and who's the 00:29:33.84\00:29:40.11 second beast. All of this was revealed to him. And he's 00:29:40.14\00:29:44.95 preparing to be baptized. (Amen) 00:29:44.98\00:29:49.58 He also has made significant changes after the health lesson. 00:29:49.62\00:29:53.09 Learning about a biblical life style. He and his wife also 00:29:53.12\00:29:57.59 stopped eating unclean meat and they used to eat out a lot like 00:29:57.63\00:30:02.93 almost every meal but you know when you're eating out they're 00:30:02.96\00:30:05.23 cooking clean and unclean on the same grill, right? And so they 00:30:05.27\00:30:08.44 started wanting to cook more at home and you know weren't really 00:30:08.47\00:30:13.17 sure how to do that because you know they've always eaten out. 00:30:13.21\00:30:16.51 They did not know that food is so important for spiritual life. 00:30:16.54\00:30:22.98 They did not know that. So when we were presenting these things 00:30:23.02\00:30:27.29 to them, they accepted it and they desired to make a conscious 00:30:27.32\00:30:31.69 effort to discard all of the unclean meat. So Heidi's Health 00:30:31.73\00:30:36.23 Kitchen manager, Helen, and Heidi and I, we went to their 00:30:36.26\00:30:39.63 home and then we started showing them how to prepare some 00:30:39.67\00:30:43.17 healthy plant-based foods and they have replicated it multiple 00:30:43.20\00:30:46.78 times. 00:30:46.81\00:30:48.14 So we just went to their home and spent an afternoon cooking 00:30:48.18\00:30:50.11 with them and teaching them recipes. So private cooking show 00:30:50.15\00:30:53.88 Private cooking class. 00:30:53.92\00:30:56.72 That's such a blessing because so many people don't make the 00:30:56.75\00:31:00.56 connection between health and spirituality and nutrition and 00:31:00.59\00:31:07.10 spirituality. They don't get the connection. 00:31:07.13\00:31:09.90 Yeah. Also for Sabbath, we offer Zoom worship because we have 00:31:09.93\00:31:15.84 people in all different states, different time zones, different 00:31:15.87\00:31:19.27 countries even, you know, that we've studied with. And so they 00:31:19.31\00:31:22.38 join our Zoom worship and for people who are local we run a 00:31:22.41\00:31:27.98 home church in my home. And Joe had not yet been to my home but 00:31:28.02\00:31:34.49 he was open to us bringing our home church to his home. So we 00:31:34.52\00:31:39.66 prepared food you know on Friday and on Sabbath morning we ran 00:31:39.69\00:31:44.43 our Zoom church from his home and had a wonderful day 00:31:44.47\00:31:48.74 together singing, playing Bible games afterward in the 00:31:48.77\00:31:51.37 afternoon. We just want to do everything that we can to help 00:31:51.41\00:31:56.14 our Bible students like really really allow God to make 00:31:56.18\00:32:01.52 whatever changes need to be changed in their lives and for 00:32:01.55\00:32:04.35 them to be able to enjoy it and really enjoy the blessings that 00:32:04.39\00:32:07.26 God has given to us. 00:32:07.29\00:32:10.63 So the home church was started during the lockdowns, because we 00:32:10.66\00:32:13.90 had Bible students who couldn't go to church even if they were 00:32:13.93\00:32:18.03 like Sunday keepers they couldn't go to any of the 00:32:18.07\00:32:20.57 churches. So we started a home church. And then we also started 00:32:20.60\00:32:26.14 a pilot Zoom course as well like a Zoom church. And then what we 00:32:26.17\00:32:30.05 planned was with the counsels of our elders in our church that we 00:32:30.08\00:32:34.38 will have this like a first step and prepare them for baptism 00:32:34.42\00:32:38.62 and then introduce them to our local church families in the 00:32:38.65\00:32:43.19 Adventist Church. 00:32:43.22\00:32:44.56 So you took advantage of the COVID pandemic right? 00:32:44.59\00:32:48.16 The Lord gave you this idea for the home church when then you 00:32:48.20\00:32:58.11 had a goal. You were leading them from the home church into 00:32:58.14\00:33:01.88 a larger church family ultimately. (Yeah) That's great. 00:33:01.91\00:33:05.55 And so have you found harvest from this, (Oh yes, yes) like 00:33:05.58\00:33:10.89 how people receive. (Yeah, Yes) 00:33:10.92\00:33:12.62 It's very interesting. On Long Island...There was a period of 00:33:12.65\00:33:16.99 time when we were doing most of our ministry in Manhattan, that 00:33:17.03\00:33:19.59 there seemed to be no fruit on Long Island. But with the 00:33:19.63\00:33:23.73 pandemic very similar to my sister's experience people all 00:33:23.77\00:33:27.90 of a sudden have woken up and thought, wow, we really need to 00:33:27.94\00:33:32.17 you know, see what God says about this, or get back to God 00:33:32.21\00:33:36.24 or find out if what we believe is the truth because you know 00:33:36.28\00:33:42.08 they're seeing the changes in the world and in society and 00:33:42.12\00:33:46.49 just wanting to know what does God think about these things. 00:33:46.52\00:33:48.59 And so we've found an amazing harvest on Long Island. Other 00:33:48.62\00:33:54.26 placed too, but we're seeing people coming through our 00:33:54.30\00:33:57.93 Wednesday night Bible study and staying and continuing to study. 00:33:57.97\00:34:01.47 We have more people joining our Zoom church and it's really just 00:34:01.50\00:34:06.41 so refreshing and just such a blessing to see that people are 00:34:06.44\00:34:09.41 interested and they really want to know what is the truth and 00:34:09.44\00:34:13.52 make sure that is what I know really the truth? And that 00:34:13.55\00:34:17.32 type of thing. 00:34:17.35\00:34:18.69 Yes, I think people are seeing, they are sensing something 00:34:18.72\00:34:23.36 different is going on. (Yes) And many people want to know what is 00:34:23.39\00:34:30.30 truth? What is the truth (Yes that's right) about these 00:34:30.33\00:34:34.37 different topics and why are these things happening now and 00:34:34.40\00:34:37.87 is the Bible relevant? Did the Bible...you know because society 00:34:37.91\00:34:43.14 at large just like wants to put the Bible off as an irrelevant 00:34:43.18\00:34:48.05 book. (Obsolete) Obsolete is an even better word. And so we can 00:34:48.08\00:34:55.52 show, no, no, no, the Bible is relevant. It's a book for now. 00:34:55.56\00:35:00.96 And we're in the future part. (Yeah) of the Bible. Yes, yes, 00:35:01.00\00:35:07.30 in the prophetic (timeline) part of it. So this is a time 00:35:07.34\00:35:12.67 now where people are searching and I'm so thankful that you 00:35:12.71\00:35:17.08 guys are you know stepping up to the plate and doing all of these 00:35:17.11\00:35:21.98 different things on all of these different levels to bring the 00:35:22.02\00:35:26.12 truth to people. 00:35:26.15\00:35:28.52 Yeah, Our ministry has changed quite a bit because of the 00:35:28.56\00:35:30.23 pandemic. But you know we have to be flexible. We have to go 00:35:30.26\00:35:32.49 where God is going and God is moving in hearts. 00:35:32.53\00:35:37.53 For sure. You have cooking classes in New York City. Tell 00:35:37.57\00:35:42.84 We did, we did for many years prior to the pandemic for seven 00:35:42.87\00:35:46.74 years at the Crossroads Seventh- day Adventist Church in West 00:35:46.78\00:35:49.58 45th Street. We did a monthly cooking class and over 70 00:35:49.61\00:35:54.28 cooking classes, we've done there and we have people who 00:35:54.32\00:35:59.75 kind of came and went. They'd find it on an event plate, maybe 00:35:59.79\00:36:03.66 they were touring the city that weekend or whatever and they'd 00:36:03.69\00:36:06.09 come for a cooking class. But we had a lot of regulars too. And 00:36:06.13\00:36:11.80 one regular was a couple, Jason and his girlfriend Janette and 00:36:11.83\00:36:18.81 for at least three or four years. They've been to many of 00:36:18.84\00:36:22.11 our cooking classes. Janette the girlfriend has taken our 00:36:22.14\00:36:27.22 hands-on cooking classes as well. So we developed a friendship with them 00:36:27.25\00:36:32.15 And when the pandemic started we had to stop doing the cooking 00:36:32.19\00:36:37.56 classes. The church actually uses that space now as a food 00:36:37.59\00:36:42.26 pantry so all that you know has just changed. But we're friends 00:36:42.30\00:36:49.64 with them on Facebook and Instagram and one day I was 00:36:49.67\00:36:52.47 looking on Instagram and Jason had posted a picture, he was at 00:36:52.51\00:36:56.81 work, he was skateboarding on his lunch break or something 00:36:56.85\00:37:00.22 like that. Then there was a hand in the picture with a cigarette. 00:37:00.25\00:37:02.95 And so I just made a comment, I'm like, Dude, is that your 00:37:02.98\00:37:06.62 hand? I didn't know that you smoked. And he said yeah, he 00:37:06.65\00:37:11.09 said, unfortunately. And I actually just kind of maybe 00:37:11.13\00:37:17.90 half seriously just responded saying you know well listen if 00:37:17.93\00:37:22.50 you ever really, really want to quit you know I've given stop 00:37:22.54\00:37:25.77 smoking programs over the years so if you're really serious and 00:37:25.81\00:37:29.94 you ever are interested in something like that let me know. 00:37:29.98\00:37:32.28 And I really didn't think that he would take me up on it. 00:37:32.31\00:37:36.12 (But he did?) He did. He responded right away. He said 00:37:36.15\00:37:38.55 absolutely I'm on board. I've been trying to quit since I 00:37:38.59\00:37:42.02 started as a teenager. When do we start? So I had to like dig 00:37:42.06\00:37:46.93 up my materials and get a little refreshed because he wanted to 00:37:46.96\00:37:50.37 start right away. And so we started a 5-day stop smoking 00:37:50.40\00:37:54.60 program and on the third day... It's a biblical stop smoking 00:37:54.64\00:37:59.97 program of course. So on the third day he said, You know 00:38:00.01\00:38:04.31 this all sounds really good but how do I trust God if I don't 00:38:04.35\00:38:08.98 know Him? (Mmm) I said that's a very, very good question. Would 00:38:09.02\00:38:17.13 you like to get to know Him? And he said yes. So I said okay, I 00:38:17.16\00:38:22.36 said well, I said, I think you know, I'd like to suggest that 00:38:22.40\00:38:26.74 at this time we put a pause on the stop smoking program and 00:38:26.77\00:38:30.51 start doing regular Bible study together so that you can get to 00:38:30.54\00:38:34.11 know God because He has healing for you but you have to trust 00:38:34.14\00:38:38.25 Him and believe that He will give it. And you know victory 00:38:38.28\00:38:42.48 in front of all this. So we started...It's been a year now 00:38:42.52\00:38:46.65 that we've been studying together weekly and his and 00:38:46.69\00:38:51.33 Janette's lives have changed quite a bit and for the better. 00:38:51.36\00:38:55.10 And it's really a blessing. God has given us sweet fruit. 00:38:55.13\00:39:01.60 Yes, yes that's so...that's wonderful. Has he stopped 00:39:01.64\00:39:03.10 smoking? 00:39:03.14\00:39:04.47 He has greatly reduced and occasionally you know falls, but 00:39:04.51\00:39:11.61 the Bible says a righteous man gets up seven times. 00:39:11.65\00:39:15.98 That's right, that's right. Well praise the Lord that even the 00:39:16.02\00:39:18.59 process has begun and praise the Lord that he's getting to 00:39:18.62\00:39:21.49 to know Jesus. That is the most important, the most important. 00:39:21.52\00:39:26.19 (Yeah) The Lord will deliver him 00:39:26.23\00:39:28.26 They've started keeping Sabbath and it's just really beautiful. 00:39:28.30\00:39:30.43 Yes, amen, amen. And you've been doing work with yoga. (Yes) And 00:39:30.47\00:39:37.77 that is a topic that's near and dear to my heart too. I just 00:39:37.81\00:39:42.58 finished a book called Perilous Practices: A Christian's View of 00:39:42.61\00:39:48.72 Yoga. It's being printed now so don't call and say I want one. 00:39:48.75\00:39:56.99 Call, call but not yet. It's not ready yet. But I hope to have it 00:39:57.03\00:40:02.23 out soon. But that is a topic that is near and dear to my 00:40:02.26\00:40:07.64 heart. Tell us about how you've been able to share Jesus through 00:40:07.67\00:40:13.24 that internet community. 00:40:13.27\00:40:15.68 Okay. So I wanted to produce videos based on the information 00:40:15.71\00:40:19.98 that God showed me through the Bible and through the lens of 00:40:20.02\00:40:25.79 Spirit of Prophecy. I can guarantee that without the Bible 00:40:25.82\00:40:30.46 and Spirit of Prophecy it's impossible to understand yoga. 00:40:30.49\00:40:35.06 Or the depths of it. The depths of it. 00:40:35.10\00:40:38.10 It's very sneaky. I'm sure you know that. (yes, yes) So I had 00:40:38.13\00:40:46.98 a burden, I still have a burden to reach the unreached and 00:40:47.01\00:40:52.65 therefore...Before I go forward let me first show a testimony 00:40:52.68\00:40:58.19 from one of our unreached who has been reached. 00:40:58.22\00:41:01.09 Good, good. Let's take a look. 00:41:01.12\00:41:03.32 ¤ ¤ 00:41:03.36\00:41:11.17 I was born and raised into a Baptist family and was taught 00:41:11.20\00:41:14.20 that when people don't accept Jesus as their personal Savior 00:41:14.24\00:41:17.51 they will burn and be tortured in hell forever. These teachings 00:41:17.54\00:41:23.11 pushed me away from Christianity and I gravitated towards 00:41:23.14\00:41:26.92 Hinduism in which the people are nice and accepting. 00:41:26.95\00:41:30.02 Even a lot of the 00:41:30.05\00:41:31.69 Hindu tenents are humane. After 15 years of learning about 00:41:31.72\00:41:36.96 Hinduism and being a Hindu activist I came across Seventh 00:41:36.99\00:41:40.86 day Adventist teachings through my friend Ivan Raj I also rented 00:41:40.90\00:41:45.63 his videos on Origin of Yoga and learned so much information 00:41:45.67\00:41:51.24 which I was not even aware of. Although I was a practicing 00:41:51.27\00:41:57.05 Hindu my eyes are opening to the truth. If I ever leave Hinduism 00:41:57.08\00:42:01.18 and follow Christianity again I will definitely be a Seventh 00:42:01.22\00:42:07.79 day Adventist Christian because their teachings make 00:42:07.82\00:42:11.29 perfect sense and 00:42:11.33\00:42:13.09 amplify the true character of Jesus Christ. 00:42:13.13\00:42:19.73 Wow, that is a wonderful testimony. She's a work in 00:42:19.77\00:42:23.17 progress right? Tell us where she is now. 00:42:23.20\00:42:25.31 Yes, yes. She's in the states. Now I have known her for over 00:42:25.34\00:42:29.64 10 years. I've never met her but we've been friends through 00:42:29.68\00:42:32.85 social media. And she's actually a Hindu activist and she's kind 00:42:32.88\00:42:38.25 kind of popular in India. And she also sued somebody in the 00:42:38.29\00:42:45.29 U.S. for calling a Hindu god as a demon. (Hmm) So I did not 00:42:45.33\00:42:52.17 want her to know about the project that I was working on 00:42:52.20\00:42:54.70 YogaUnboxed.com in which the videos are presented to non 00:42:54.74\00:43:02.54 Christians to understand the depth, the spiritual inferences 00:43:02.58\00:43:06.28 of Yoga and the origins, et cetera to make them think and 00:43:06.31\00:43:10.85 through God's providence, she got to know about it. And I did 00:43:10.89\00:43:14.62 not want her to rent those videos because I didn't want to 00:43:14.66\00:43:18.39 get into problem with her. But she did. As soon as she got 00:43:18.43\00:43:22.43 to know about 00:43:22.46\00:43:24.40 this project she rented all the five episodes, she watched all 00:43:24.43\00:43:28.70 the five episodes. She stopped practicing yoga. Then she 00:43:28.74\00:43:33.84 started asking me questions about state of the dead. And 00:43:33.88\00:43:37.05 eternal hell fire which is being taught mainstream Christianity 00:43:37.08\00:43:40.68 (Yes) So I showed from the Bible that God is love. Got does not 00:43:40.72\00:43:44.55 burn people forever and ever and ever in hell. So I explained 00:43:44.59\00:43:49.19 this from the scripture. And then so there are other topics 00:43:49.22\00:43:53.33 she had questions on because these are things that made her 00:43:53.36\00:43:57.27 leave Christianity. She was a Baptist. And she left Baptist 00:43:57.30\00:44:01.24 Church and she became a Hindu as she mentioned in the video. She 00:44:01.27\00:44:04.01 has been a Hindu for over 15 years now. She's been doing yoga 00:44:04.04\00:44:08.24 for a long time but thank God she's now coming back to her 00:44:08.28\00:44:15.52 roots but this time she said she wants to become a Seventh-day 00:44:15.55\00:44:19.12 Adventist. So we have to still touch base on some more lessons 00:44:19.15\00:44:22.12 with her and after that, God willing, we will have another 00:44:22.16\00:44:25.99 harvest. 00:44:26.03\00:44:27.36 Amen, amen. That is beautiful. That is beautiful. What else is 00:44:27.40\00:44:31.50 going on with your...Tell us about your Yoga Unboxed project 00:44:31.53\00:44:35.50 and how people can get that. 00:44:35.54\00:44:38.07 Sure. So Yoga Unboxed project is designed...It's a set of videos 00:44:38.11\00:44:42.04 a series of videos designed for non-Seventh-day Adventist and 00:44:42.08\00:44:47.15 non Christians also. So the video series is designed from 00:44:47.18\00:44:53.62 Hindu scriptures, Hindu history and ancient archeological 00:44:53.66\00:44:58.79 evidences. And a non-Christian or unbeliever when they watch 00:44:58.83\00:45:04.30 these videos they will learn first hand about the source of 00:45:04.33\00:45:07.80 yoga, the origins of yoga from Hindu teachings but through the 00:45:07.84\00:45:13.64 lens of Bible, especially through Genesis chapter 3 verses 00:45:13.68\00:45:18.11 1-7. So that's what she watched, my friend and she was shocked. 00:45:18.15\00:45:25.09 She got scared actually. And she put a pause, not put a pause, 00:45:25.12\00:45:29.19 she stopped yoga. 00:45:29.22\00:45:31.43 Yes. And I think a lot of Christians would stop yoga if 00:45:31.46\00:45:35.66 they understood the perils of yoga spiritually. And I think... 00:45:35.70\00:45:41.90 In fact, there is a connection, you brought another picture that 00:45:41.94\00:45:46.54 I'd like for us to see and then you explain what that is because 00:45:46.57\00:45:50.18 I think it's important for our viewers to see. 00:45:50.21\00:45:52.15 So this...I have two pictures, this one is a graphic where it 00:45:52.18\00:45:58.69 shows the warrior pose which is very popular, right? People say 00:45:58.72\00:46:02.79 I think a warrior pose, warrior one, warrior two, warrior three 00:46:02.82\00:46:05.89 but what people don't know in the west is it is actually 00:46:05.93\00:46:11.00 mimicking beheading scene in Hinduism. So in the same picture 00:46:11.03\00:46:17.37 on the left is shown the Hindu deity. The posture in Hinduism 00:46:17.41\00:46:24.35 is called Virabhadrasana where the deity beheads actually his 00:46:24.38\00:46:32.12 father-in-law in the Hindu mythology. And the beheading 00:46:32.15\00:46:36.59 scene is now translated as a stretching. So every time a 00:46:36.62\00:46:41.76 person does a warrior pose they're actually mimicking the 00:46:41.80\00:46:43.77 beheading. 00:46:43.80\00:46:45.60 Yes, and the three poses so they're actually mimicking the 00:46:45.63\00:46:51.27 process (process of the beheading) of the beheading 00:46:51.31\00:46:52.64 which is really I have that in my booklet as well and it's very 00:46:52.67\00:47:00.05 enlightening because you don't realize...You just think you're 00:47:00.08\00:47:02.22 just stretching and doing certain poses and they're 00:47:02.25\00:47:07.56 connected to things and they have a purpose and that's what 00:47:07.59\00:47:12.23 I think a lot of people don't know. 00:47:12.26\00:47:15.00 So yoga is one of the six schools of Hinduism and one of 00:47:15.03\00:47:20.84 the schools is called Samkhya. Samkhya means numbers and it is 00:47:20.87\00:47:26.24 a theory part and the practical part of Samkhya is yoga. So yoga 00:47:26.27\00:47:31.18 means to unite to link your mind with Shiva the source of yoga. 00:47:31.21\00:47:38.02 I actually have a graphic of one of the symbols of Shiva and I 00:47:38.05\00:47:45.73 would like for it to be shown so our 3ABN viewers can see. This 00:47:45.76\00:47:50.27 is actually the Shiva lingam but if you look at it, it 00:47:50.30\00:47:54.60 transitions into Vatican City because the similar structure. 00:47:54.64\00:48:02.44 Wow, so that symbol, that symbol of (Shiva) Shiva, (Shiva lingam 00:48:02.48\00:48:08.28 yeah) is the Vatican symbol. 00:48:08.32\00:48:12.09 Yeah, similar (Same layout) Same layout. The Shiva lingam symbol 00:48:12.12\00:48:19.06 has existed for thousands of years, thousands of years. 00:48:19.09\00:48:22.36 So Vatican came later on. But it's very interesting that it's 00:48:22.40\00:48:27.17 very similar, they're very similar. So people worship in 00:48:27.20\00:48:32.87 India the Shiva lingam by pouring milk and honey and 00:48:32.91\00:48:36.34 butter, ghee, that's how it is worshiped. So this is one of the 00:48:36.38\00:48:43.45 popular symbols in which Shiva is represented. 00:48:43.49\00:48:45.95 And Shiva is one of the gods, one of the 3.3 million (yeah) 00:48:45.99\00:48:50.93 but part of the...they have a trinity do they not? 00:48:50.96\00:48:56.60 Yeah, Brahma, Vishnu, Shiva. But Shiva, I would say, based on the 00:48:56.63\00:49:02.64 research in Hinduism is not just one of the Hindu deities. 00:49:02.67\00:49:06.88 He's like at the top, right? 00:49:06.91\00:49:08.84 Yeah. If our 3ABN viewers are watching some of you might be 00:49:08.88\00:49:13.65 very familiar on Bible verses where God tells Lucifer that on 00:49:13.68\00:49:20.66 day he was created pipe and timbrel was given to him. (Yes) 00:49:20.69\00:49:25.39 So Shiva has a pipe and a timbrel, a drum, and a pipe to 00:49:25.43\00:49:30.80 mesmerize the serpent around his neck. (Yeah) So you can actually 00:49:30.83\00:49:39.47 google images and search for Shiva and you will see a serpent 00:49:39.51\00:49:40.98 is always coiled around his neck (yes) and he has a drum which is 00:49:41.01\00:49:45.28 the timbrel. 00:49:45.31\00:49:46.65 So does Shiva then correlate with Lucifer? Is that what 00:49:46.68\00:49:52.02 you're saying? 00:49:52.05\00:49:53.39 Absolutely, 100 percent. 00:49:53.42\00:49:54.76 Interesting. Now that I didn't know. 00:49:54.79\00:49:57.49 I have a text in the Bible that says that Lucifer desired to be 00:49:57.53\00:50:03.30 in the sides of the north. Most of the Shiva temples are built 00:50:03.33\00:50:09.00 facing south so the worshiper has to face the sides of the 00:50:09.04\00:50:13.27 north to worship Shiva, the source of yoga. (Interesting) 00:50:13.31\00:50:18.35 So when a person stretches, meditates or lives on a yogic 00:50:18.38\00:50:23.59 lifestyle so it is designed to link the human mind with Shiva's 00:50:23.62\00:50:29.46 mind. Yeah. 00:50:29.49\00:50:30.83 Hmm. Not Brahma, but Shiva. 00:50:30.86\00:50:33.63 Brahma, Vishnu, Shiva according to Hindu scriptures, they say 00:50:33.66\00:50:36.56 all they are one. So in Hinduism Brahma has only one temple. 00:50:36.60\00:50:40.70 But Shiva has the most temples. 00:50:40.74\00:50:45.01 Uh-hmm. That is very interesting. 00:50:45.04\00:50:46.37 Well the target audience for this project is non-Christians 00:50:46.41\00:50:52.08 and people who are really entrenched in yoga and these 00:50:52.11\00:50:55.55 practices. In my opinion, it's very important for every 00:50:55.58\00:50:59.39 Adventist to see this program because it's a witnessing tool. 00:50:59.42\00:51:02.82 I don't know anybody who doesn't know someone who's involved with 00:51:02.86\00:51:07.36 yoga on some level. 00:51:07.40\00:51:09.06 It's true and it's even in some of our Adventist institutions 00:51:09.10\00:51:12.63 (Absolutely) People just don't know. And I know that people 00:51:12.67\00:51:16.67 want to know how to reach you. How can they find out about 00:51:16.71\00:51:21.94 these programs, about your amazing product. How can they 00:51:21.98\00:51:26.41 reach you. So we're going to go to an address roll so that they 00:51:26.45\00:51:30.02 can know just how to contact you. 00:51:30.05\00:51:34.72 If you would like to contact or know more about Heidi's Health 00:51:34.76\00:51:37.56 Kitchen you can write to them at P.O. Box 232, Babylon, NY 11702 00:51:37.59\00:51:44.80 You can also call them at (631) 663-3128 or visit a 00:51:44.83\00:51:57.38 website at HeidisHealthKitchen.com 00:51:57.41\00:51:59.98 You can also email them at HeidisHealthKitchen@gmail.com 00:52:00.02\00:52:08.22 Or if you would like to know more about their yoga series 00:52:08.26\00:52:11.56 specifically, you can visit that website at YogaUnboxed.com 00:52:11.59\00:52:17.70