I want to spend my life
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mending broken people.
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I want to spend my life
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removing pain.
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Lord, let my words
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heal a heart that hurts.
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I want to spend my life
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mending broken people...
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I want to spend my life
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mending broken people.
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Hello and welcome to
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the entire world.
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We're just so glad that
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Jill, today there's a testimony
program and I love testimonies.
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And I love the testimony
programs because it testifies
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to the goodness of God. Amen.
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And it testifies also
that God cares about you.
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Never forget that.
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You can hear a testimony -
this is a powerful testimony -
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but remember that God has a tes-
timony... you have a testimony
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to share about what
God is doing in YOUR life.
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Never forget that.
But this program today
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means something special to me
because... And why does it mean
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mean something
special? Yes... great question.
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Comes from my
old stomping grounds.
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Don't know if you've
ever heard those words before.
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So home, of course, has been
in Illinois for like 23 years
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or so, but my growing-up years
were what we call the tristate
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area which is West Virginia,
eastern Kentucky, and Ohio.
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So this testimony
comes from West Virginia
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and so it's near and
dear to me. Absolutely!
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And I think your parents
had something to do with this
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testimony as well which
is exciting. We might hear
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a little bit about that. But
I love testimonies - me too -
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because today we're going
to meet an incredible couple
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and we're going to see
where God brought them from,
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where God is using them now,
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and what God is
going to do in their lives.
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We look forward with EAGER
EXPECTATION - that's right -
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to what He's going to do
in their lives in the future.
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So it's a testimony of grace.
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It's a testimony of God's love.
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And I can't wait to
introduce them to you.
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Pastor D.W. West
and his wife Amber.
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And we are
delighted to have you here.
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Of course, Pastor D.W. is
in the Mountain View Conference
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and we'll hear in a little
bit. You're the administrative
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assistant, Amber - yes
- for the president there
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in the Mountain View Conference.
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And we'll hear a little
bit about what you're doing now
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but let's just jump right
into your testimony. Good!
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Go back to the
beginning Pastor D.W.
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Tell us what life
was like growing up.
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Well, life growing
up was very interesting.
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You know, we were young...
My family was very different.
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My mom's side of the
family was very Pentecostal
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while you had my
father's side of the family
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that was separated. You
had Catholicism and Baptist.
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So we eventually
became United Methodists.
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And very quickly we
were given a prophecy seminar
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flyer in the mail, and it
was called Prophecy Explosion
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with Dr. Russell
Burrow, and boy, I was blessed!
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I didn't even go to
the children's programs
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because I really was interested
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in the true Word of God.
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OK... so you were
a young man, then,
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is what you are saying then?
I was 7. You were 7 years old?
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OK... so your parents...
Oh, hold on... hold on.
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Let's read it
nine. Nine... sorry.
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I was seven when we joined
the United Methodist church.
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OK. Boy time flies, huh?
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You were nine, and you actually
went to the adult meetings
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not the children's
meetings. Yes, all 26.
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They tried to get me to
go to the youth meetings
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but they quickly found out
when I was asking Russell Burrow
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and President Randy
Murphy thirty questions a night
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that I wasn't going to
work in the children's room.
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So this was a
nine-year-old asking questions.
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BIG questions.
Wow! Praise the Lord.
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Do you remember
some of those questions?
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Well I needed to understand
why all these other churches
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were worshiping on Sunday.
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That was something
I never understood.
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Wow! I mean, this is all Bibli-
cal. You read it in the Bible.
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It speaks for itself.
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And I was just
confused as to why
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so many people had
been deceived by Satan.
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But as I had grown older
and as I went through the series
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and we went
through spiritual warfare
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I quickly was
shown how it happened.
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And it all goes
back to church history.
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Um-hmm. You know, that's pretty
incredible 'cause I think about
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the journeys of
life. 'Cause Jill mentioned
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you're a pastor now which
is just incredible how God
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took you to that
point, but I think about also
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what you're getting
ready to share also because OK,
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your parents are very
religious sounds like right?
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But you had
questions about the faith.
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Right? And then this
flyer comes in the mail.
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And then you're like: "Wow!
Maybe this is truth then! "
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This is a young man, right? Yes.
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But then some things happen in
your life that kind of sends you
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down a downroad
spiral. What happens next?
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Well... before we
could really get to that
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you have to understand I went
to Parkersburg Junior Academy.
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SDA? Yes, it's a
Seventh-day Adventist Academy.
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It's sponsored by
Parkersburg SDA Church
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and many other Mt.
View Conference churches.
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And if I wouldn't have
went there for three years
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there wouldn't have
been a foundation. Umm.
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In fact, when I
came back to the church
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Kara Mace who went
to the school with me
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she reached out to me to invite
me to Ten Nights of Prayer.
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And that's how I was
invited back into the church.
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So I believe God
worked very quickly
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because He had that
foundation set in me
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for those three years
that I went to the school.
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Now, this is no accident.
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When I came back to the church
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and started
working for the school
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guess what
happened? I began working
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with a person named
Darlene Molina... Mrs. Molina...
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formerly Miss Whiteman...
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who was my art teacher
when I went to school there.
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Oh wow! Now you know that God
has things "providenced" out.
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And it was very clear to me
that God was calling me back
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into the ministry.
Wow! So let's go back
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just for a moment
to when you were nine
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and you attended
the prophecy series
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and you learned about all
these truths, these answers
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to these questions that you had.
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And then you and your family
were baptized at that point?
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We came in by
profession of faith.
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We were just recently baptized
into the United Methodist church
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OK - but they don't
like to talk about prophecy.
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They don't like to
talk about Revelation.
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So that was kind
of difficult for us
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and we wanted to
be fed by the true...
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we wanted to be rooted
in the Biblical truth of God
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from His Bible and His Word.
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And I think we have a
video. Let's see if we can play
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just a clip. This is you
when you were nine years old
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coming into the church
then, right? That's right. OK.
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And you'll hear them talk about
Russell Burrow and President
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Randy Murphy as well.
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Let's take a look at
that video right now.
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We know that D.W. will
not only lead his parents
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to the Lord. We feel
that God will use him
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in a mighty way to lead
many others to the Lord, too.
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Amen!
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You know, I think
what's amazing about that video
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D.W. is that here you are, a
young man. You're 9 years old.
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You're standing up there on
the platform with your parents.
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That's your parents right
there in that video as well,
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going back to the
mid 90's you said? 1995!
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1995. That's why the
quality is the way it is.
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But I just again... which
we're going to touch on again...
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this is an incredible testimony.
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But again how they said
you had an impact on your
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parents' life but then they
said - almost like a prophecy -
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may I say that and say
"You're going to have an impact
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in many other
lives for eternity. "
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And look at God!
Look what God has done.
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We're going to get more
into that. Hallelujah! Amen!
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In very little
time! Yes... Amen.
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Amber, let's go to you. Yes. So
tell us about your growing up.
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Did you grow up in a Christian
family? Parents love the Lord?
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Well yes, my
grandmother was very religious
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and she attended the
Methodist church in my community
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and my mother as well.
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In West Virginia?
In West Virginia. OK.
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We would go to church
every Sunday and Wednesday's.
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And yeah, I was
rooted in Christianity.
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You know, I had God in my
heart when I was very young.
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Um-hmm. So yeah, I was
in the Methodist church
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until my teenage years.
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And you know at that time
my youth pastor left my church
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and a lot of different things
were happening in my life.
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My mother and my
father got divorced.
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Ah... My mother moved out.
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Did that make you
question God or? It did.
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How did it impact?
It was embarrassing...
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more so at that time because
none of my friends parents
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were divorced. How
old were you? I was
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going into high
school so I think I... Yeah.
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I was a teenager
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and it was right before I
was going into high school.
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So a lot of changes
were happening in my life.
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Yeah. So yeah, that happened
and I stopped going to church
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and I questioned my faith.
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And I started
searching for a different way
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of what I believed.
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And so I was out of
the church for many years.
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And right after I
graduated high school
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my father passed in his sleep.
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Oh... And I was a Daddy's girl
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so that really affected me.
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And that made me hate God
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and I didn't believe in
Him at all at that point.
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Did you think that God
had caused your father to die?
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Or that He had
allowed him to die? Or?
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Um, yeah, I think
I believed that God
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didn't care about me, you know.
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Allowed... took
him out of my life
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so I felt abandoned. Yes.
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And at that point, I rebelled.
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Let's just say that.
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So through high
school I was rebellious
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and I did what I wanted.
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And for many years I was lost
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and sinning and doing
things you shouldn't do.
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And I just... it took many years
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really for me to
come back to God.
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MANY years.
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And the way I came
back was actually D.W.
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invited me to
church... to his SDA church.
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Wow! And I didn't
really want to go.
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But why did I invite you?
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Why did you invite me?
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We were going to get married.
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Yes. So let's put a pause
on that for just a second.
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Let's leave you
where you're say wandering:
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you know, as far
as mad at God, upset.
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We'll pause you
coming back to church
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and let's go to your
years of wandering, D.W.
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You came in by profession
of faith at 9 years old.
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Went to
Parkersburg Junior Academy
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and then what
happened? Did your walk with God
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stay consistent
or what happened?
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It stayed consistent
for a very long time.
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I became a junior deacon,
was very heavily involved
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with the church with
my father and my mother.
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However, unfortunately,
Parkersburg Junior Academy
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didn't have a
choral music program.
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So you loved music then?
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I did! And in fact
in sixth grade I was...
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Judy Hinson helped me with
the University of Illinois.
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I will save you from
having to hear the alma mater.
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OK. But anyway... what was neat
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was that they wanted
me to go to that school
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so they were going to
give me a scholarship.
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It was a blessing,
but I turned it down
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because as I got older
- and we can get into that
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later if you want -
but my mom went to the...
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to prison. She was imprisoned
in the state of West Virginia
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at the very same time that
Martha Stewart was in prison.
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So that was really hard on
me... especially in high school.
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So as my dad kept... He
fell back into the world
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and was drinking and smoking
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and had DUI's and he
was on home confinement.
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And here was my mom in
prison and I'm really all alone
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to figure
everything out on my own.
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There's no choral music program
at Parkersburg Junior Academy.
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So then I go to the junior high
and then I go to the high school
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and it just keeps
getting worse and worse.
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But I thought
things were going well.
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You know, and I
became a musician.
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And we just took off
and we became very popular.
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And then I started a recording
studio and a record label
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up in Columbus. But
my parents became sick
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so I came home. Was
your mom still in prison?
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Or she had gotten out? She
finally got back out of prison.
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And so we came
home... or I came home
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because Amber and I hadn't...
00:14:02.07\00:14:03.41
We knew each
other from high school -
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OK - but we
weren't really close.
00:14:05.21\00:14:07.28
So we actually didn't
get close until I moved back
00:14:07.48\00:14:10.38
from Columbus. You made just
an interesting statement here
00:14:10.58\00:14:13.08
just a couple of
seconds... minutes ago...
00:14:13.28\00:14:15.02
and that was: "Things
were getting worse and worse
00:14:15.22\00:14:17.75
but you thought they were
getting better and better. "
00:14:17.95\00:14:19.72
Yeah, that is interesting.
So explain that a little bit
00:14:20.12\00:14:22.92
because there could be someone
right now saying: "Yeah, my life
00:14:23.12\00:14:24.63
is pretty good" but actually
it could be going downhill.
00:14:24.83\00:14:27.00
Well, can I share
something with you? Please.
00:14:27.20\00:14:31.13
Yesterday I read this post.
I shared it for my birthday
00:14:32.50\00:14:35.34
in 2016 and I thanked everybody
for the birthday wishes
00:14:35.54\00:14:39.14
and I said: "I really feel like
my life is headed in the right
00:14:39.34\00:14:42.14
direction" and I
thought that was great.
00:14:42.34\00:14:44.81
But I wasn't heading in
the right direction. In fact,
00:14:45.75\00:14:48.35
my life destructed
all the way up until 2019
00:14:48.55\00:14:52.25
when I was invited to
that Ten Days of Prayer.
00:14:52.45\00:14:55.22
And I shared that post and
I said: "How foolish I was! "
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OK, so explain, though,
you talk as far as going down.
00:15:00.20\00:15:03.26
Are you talking like
drugs? Alcohol? Oh yes!
00:15:03.47\00:15:06.63
Because life seemed
good. In other words,
00:15:06.84\00:15:08.17
you seemed successful
by the world's standards?
00:15:08.20\00:15:10.41
I was successful by the
world's standards. You see
00:15:10.61\00:15:13.21
I owned a pro wrestling company.
00:15:13.41\00:15:15.24
We worked with
TNA Impact wrestling.
00:15:15.44\00:15:18.61
We worked with WWE.
00:15:18.81\00:15:20.15
I'm on the WWE Network.
I'm on all these wrestling
00:15:20.22\00:15:23.69
shows. I was a promoter...
one of the top promoters
00:15:23.89\00:15:26.32
in the country. Not only
that, but my Americana group
00:15:26.52\00:15:29.76
the Thorny Flat Mountain Boys
at one point in time, we were
00:15:29.96\00:15:32.96
number one in the nation
on the independent charts
00:15:33.16\00:15:35.96
and that's when I'm
comin' back into the church.
00:15:36.16\00:15:38.33
And the devil was
tryin' to get back to me.
00:15:38.53\00:15:40.94
You see, he will
get us any way he can.
00:15:41.30\00:15:44.97
But then when he realizes
he can't beat you up that way
00:15:45.37\00:15:49.04
any more he tries to find
another sin you know in you
00:15:49.24\00:15:52.25
and he will come at us. BUT
we have a God who is greater,
00:15:52.45\00:15:56.12
Amen? And I know that
God has truly delivered me
00:15:56.32\00:15:59.69
from this and I know
this was "providenced" out.
00:15:59.89\00:16:02.89
And it's not going to stop here.
00:16:03.09\00:16:05.36
I mean, I'm working
with people in Uganda.
00:16:05.56\00:16:08.16
I'm working with
people in Marietta, Ohio.
00:16:08.36\00:16:10.37
Two groups! Right
now currently I work
00:16:10.57\00:16:13.50
with two groups in Uganda.
00:16:13.70\00:16:15.04
Now, I don't want
anybody to be confused.
00:16:15.24\00:16:17.67
That's a hobby. We
can get into that later.
00:16:17.87\00:16:20.38
But as far as my official duties
00:16:20.78\00:16:24.58
I have Marietta, which is
interesting 'cause that's the
00:16:24.78\00:16:27.18
Ohio Conference - that's right
- and I'm in the Mt. View Conf.
00:16:27.38\00:16:30.09
as a pastor for the
Point Pleasant SDA church.
00:16:30.29\00:16:33.72
We'll talk more about that,
too, but I'm not trying to harp
00:16:33.92\00:16:36.76
on this aspect of it
but there's a lot of people
00:16:36.96\00:16:39.09
that struggle with addictions.
I mean, it's unfortunate.
00:16:39.29\00:16:43.03
Maybe you are
struggling with an addiction.
00:16:43.23\00:16:45.07
So maybe both of you
want to speak on that
00:16:45.27\00:16:46.60
'cause you talked about also you
struggling in high school years
00:16:46.63\00:16:48.57
right? So let's talk about that
00:16:48.77\00:16:51.01
aspect because God has
obviously delivered you both.
00:16:51.21\00:16:53.41
Yes. So what is your
question? My question is then
00:16:53.61\00:16:56.95
on addiction. So how
does one overcome addiction?
00:16:57.15\00:16:59.48
Talk about the addiction part
and then how do you actually
00:16:59.68\00:17:01.85
overcome that addiction
'cause this is a powerful aspect
00:17:02.05\00:17:03.79
to your testimony. Do you
want to talk on that Amber?
00:17:03.99\00:17:05.59
Yeah, we were in
bars every weekend
00:17:05.79\00:17:07.46
and during the week
'cause he played a lot of gigs.
00:17:07.66\00:17:10.19
And I wasn't ever
much of a drinker -
00:17:10.39\00:17:13.90
but I would attend
to support my husband.
00:17:14.30\00:17:17.83
of course - on his music
career. I would always attend.
00:17:18.03\00:17:22.00
I would watch other
people being intoxicated
00:17:22.40\00:17:26.94
and... Did you drink as well?
00:17:27.14\00:17:29.94
Occasionally but not
much. I wasn't a drinker.
00:17:30.15\00:17:34.18
I wasn't a drinker.
00:17:34.38\00:17:36.89
I didn't really ever
like the taste of alcohol.
00:17:37.09\00:17:38.69
So anyway... So my husband...
you know, he was playing music
00:17:39.62\00:17:42.82
so I feel like he thought
he needed to drink to perform
00:17:43.02\00:17:47.56
and you know just
that aspect of it.
00:17:47.76\00:17:50.27
And we had many
years of late nights...
00:17:50.47\00:17:55.14
late drunken nights -fights,
But it got worse - and what not.
00:17:55.34\00:17:59.74
But yeah, it did get worse.
00:18:00.78\00:18:05.51
It started out mild - OK -
00:18:05.71\00:18:08.98
but as his career and his
music career got more intense...
00:18:09.18\00:18:13.62
More successful which
is incredible, isn't it?
00:18:14.02\00:18:16.76
Yeah, more successful.
From the world's standards
00:18:16.96\00:18:18.73
you looked
successful. Yes, uh-huh.
00:18:18.93\00:18:20.66
From that aspect it
turned down a dark road.
00:18:21.06\00:18:25.37
And it was hard on our marriage.
00:18:25.57\00:18:28.20
And D.W. hid things from me.
00:18:28.40\00:18:31.97
That was very hard,
and, yeah... So D.W.
00:18:32.17\00:18:36.61
would you like to talk? Well...
00:18:36.81\00:18:41.45
I developed a cocaine problem
00:18:42.58\00:18:45.62
because... You know, it's
interesting: I hated cocaine.
00:18:45.82\00:18:49.42
I never was one
that liked to go "up. "
00:18:49.82\00:18:52.43
I liked to go "down. "
00:18:52.63\00:18:54.03
And she knew that, so
it was so weird that I...
00:18:54.23\00:18:57.10
but because in the blue
grass industry it's everywhere.
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Even in some of these
Christian music industries
00:19:01.87\00:19:04.77
it's everywhere.
00:19:04.97\00:19:06.31
It's really sad. I
tried to give it up twice.
00:19:06.44\00:19:10.65
Cocaine? I did. It was rough.
00:19:10.85\00:19:13.11
I mean, I overcame
pain killer addiction
00:19:13.31\00:19:16.62
when I was much younger
while my mom was in prison.
00:19:16.82\00:19:18.99
That was actually pretty easy.
00:19:19.19\00:19:20.76
Cocaine was hard...
I couldn't give it up.
00:19:20.96\00:19:23.83
I tell you... Did Amber know you
were struggling with cocaine?
00:19:24.03\00:19:27.33
Oh yeah. That was the
things I was hiding from her.
00:19:27.53\00:19:29.63
She'd keep
catching me and catching me
00:19:29.83\00:19:31.37
and catching me.
It was gettin' worse
00:19:31.57\00:19:33.00
and I don't know if we were
going to make it to be honest.
00:19:33.40\00:19:36.20
You know, it was kind
of... So here you are.
00:19:36.40\00:19:39.31
You're running some businesses
and you're addicted to cocaine.
00:19:39.51\00:19:41.78
That's amazing...
yeah. Yeah, I was.
00:19:42.98\00:19:45.31
And because I had to
work there wasn't enough hours
00:19:45.51\00:19:48.28
in one day. But you know what?
00:19:48.48\00:19:50.22
There's not
enough hours in one day?
00:19:50.42\00:19:52.42
But if we can surrender
to Jesus, if we can surrender
00:19:52.62\00:19:55.82
to God and if we do His work
and we don't burn ourselves out
00:19:56.02\00:20:00.13
and we ask Him to
interrupt our lives
00:20:00.33\00:20:02.66
and to direct our schedules
then He will make those 24 hours
00:20:02.86\00:20:06.53
work. Amen to that!
00:20:06.74\00:20:08.07
So let me tell you how
I overcame it: I didn't.
00:20:08.27\00:20:11.97
Very good. That's good.
You want to know what happened?
00:20:12.17\00:20:14.44
I was invited to
that Ten Nights of Prayer.
00:20:14.64\00:20:16.75
Pastor Daniel was
there; Valerie was there.
00:20:16.95\00:20:19.48
We did the Ten Nights
of Prayer. Kara invited me.
00:20:19.68\00:20:22.48
I walked in... I'm
not going to lie to you:
00:20:23.49\00:20:25.15
I had a bag of cocaine.
I did a line downstairs.
00:20:25.35\00:20:27.72
Won't even lie...
right in the bathroom.
00:20:27.92\00:20:29.66
Wow! Sad, isn't it? Mercy!
00:20:29.86\00:20:31.89
This is the Parkersburg church
where you had been when you were
00:20:32.09\00:20:34.10
a young person?
Yeah. So we go upstairs;
00:20:34.30\00:20:36.60
we do the Ten Nights of Prayer.
00:20:36.80\00:20:38.37
I'm crying like a
baby I'm so convicted.
00:20:38.57\00:20:41.54
And then I go back downstairs
00:20:41.74\00:20:44.54
and I poured all that
cocaine into the toilet
00:20:44.74\00:20:48.51
and I flushed it and I
have not touched it since.
00:20:48.71\00:20:51.38
Wow! Praise the Lord!
00:20:51.58\00:20:53.11
In January of 2019 and I
will never touch it again.
00:20:53.31\00:20:57.62
You see, I will
only rely on the Lord
00:20:57.82\00:21:00.72
and the Lord only.
God will direct our steps.
00:21:00.92\00:21:04.13
"Thy Word is a lamp unto our
feet & a light unto our path. "
00:21:04.33\00:21:07.30
You see, if this
room was completely dark
00:21:07.50\00:21:10.10
and we set up 40
chairs from that doorway
00:21:10.30\00:21:14.40
to the doorway back
there and we couldn't see
00:21:14.60\00:21:17.54
but we got our little cell-
phones and our flashlight out
00:21:17.74\00:21:20.04
we could make it
each chair by chair
00:21:20.24\00:21:22.54
but you wouldn't be able
to like skip 6 chairs. Right.
00:21:22.74\00:21:25.05
You see, we can't see 5
or 10 yrs. down the road.
00:21:25.25\00:21:27.85
That's good. But the
Holy Spirit will lead us.
00:21:28.05\00:21:30.52
And that's why every day
in order to overcome addiction
00:21:30.72\00:21:34.76
you have to give it to Jesus.
00:21:34.96\00:21:37.09
And I know that sounds cliché
00:21:37.29\00:21:38.76
and maybe I sound
like a broken record...
00:21:38.96\00:21:41.36
Oh I did it... Maybe I
sound like a broken record
00:21:41.56\00:21:44.53
but the fact of the matter is
00:21:44.73\00:21:46.13
is we have to surrender
these problems to Jesus.
00:21:46.33\00:21:49.54
That's right.
Because I tried twice
00:21:49.74\00:21:52.07
and then I went
back to cocaine, right?
00:21:52.27\00:21:54.91
But the moment I
surrendered it to Jesus
00:21:55.11\00:21:57.95
I gave it up for good.
00:21:58.15\00:21:59.55
Now you know who taught me that?
00:21:59.75\00:22:01.88
My father. My father
was able to overcome alcohol
00:22:02.08\00:22:07.02
and cigarettes. By
the blood of Jesus Christ
00:22:07.22\00:22:10.26
he would claim it, and
he could quit cold turkey
00:22:10.46\00:22:12.93
and have no
detoxing or anything.
00:22:13.13\00:22:16.33
Wow! That's incredible.
You know: the Lord is powerful.
00:22:16.53\00:22:18.30
He is! God is good.
00:22:18.50\00:22:19.90
You know, it's the surrender
aspect. And talking about
00:22:20.10\00:22:22.20
Pastor Daniel and Valerie,
and of course, that's my folks.
00:22:22.40\00:22:24.41
And I remember my dad
and mom mentioning: "Wow!
00:22:24.67\00:22:27.21
There's an incredible
young man and young woman
00:22:27.41\00:22:30.38
that are attending the
church and are so excited
00:22:30.58\00:22:33.42
and so passionate. " And
little did any of us know
00:22:33.62\00:22:36.42
right? where God was
going to be leading you all.
00:22:36.62\00:22:37.95
And here you are working
at the conference office.
00:22:38.12\00:22:39.49
The Lord has given you some
churches. One that was closed
00:22:39.69\00:22:41.92
which we'll talk about in
just a minute and it's open
00:22:42.16\00:22:43.73
now, but I just go back to hope.
00:22:43.93\00:22:46.70
There's someone right
now that's in despair.
00:22:47.43\00:22:49.00
There's someone that's
goin' to the bars every night
00:22:49.20\00:22:51.43
or their alcohol,
cigarettes, drugs.
00:22:51.63\00:22:54.17
Maybe just flipped the channel
right now; just came across this
00:22:54.37\00:22:57.07
like: "There's no hope for
me... God's done with me. "
00:22:57.27\00:22:59.81
But there IS
hope! There is hope.
00:23:00.01\00:23:01.34
Let's speak on that
and then we'll move on
00:23:01.44\00:23:03.01
to your testimony.
You want to speak to that
00:23:03.21\00:23:04.55
then about the hope?
That you don't give up?
00:23:04.58\00:23:06.48
Yes. So actually I
attended a women's retreat
00:23:06.68\00:23:09.82
for the Mountain View
Conference office. OK.
00:23:10.02\00:23:12.25
And I was hesitant
about it, you know.
00:23:12.45\00:23:14.26
Why were you?
Why was I hesitant?
00:23:15.56\00:23:17.63
Because I didn't pray.
I didn't read the Bible.
00:23:17.83\00:23:23.13
I, you know... Were
you still mad at God?
00:23:23.33\00:23:26.07
Oh yes! Your father
passed? My father passing, yes.
00:23:26.27\00:23:29.27
Very mad. So I go
to this women's retreat
00:23:29.47\00:23:31.94
and I meet lovely women.
00:23:32.14\00:23:34.64
And I find out that the speaker
00:23:34.84\00:23:40.22
she was very... a
wonderful speaker.
00:23:40.42\00:23:43.32
And she came and I
think she's in 3ABN.
00:23:43.52\00:23:46.22
OK? Was it Linda?
00:23:47.36\00:23:49.22
Linda, yes! Linda
Johnson. Linda Johnson.
00:23:49.42\00:23:51.63
We LOVE Linda. Yes! So
she spoke about her father.
00:23:51.83\00:23:54.33
She had
recently lost her father.
00:23:54.53\00:23:56.93
That's correct.
And that touched me.
00:23:57.13\00:24:00.34
When I went there I
was very... I was "Ah,
00:24:00.74\00:24:05.41
I'm going to this
retreat. I don't even... Yeah. "
00:24:05.61\00:24:08.68
I was not feeling it.
We're probably gonna be reading
00:24:09.08\00:24:11.95
the Bible. Yes! They're gonna
be praying and all this stuff.
00:24:12.15\00:24:14.58
Yes. I was uncomfortable, but
I went out of my comfort zone.
00:24:14.78\00:24:17.55
Good for you!
And the second night
00:24:17.75\00:24:21.06
I asked... I talked
to God. I sat in my chair
00:24:21.26\00:24:24.19
and I forgave him.
00:24:24.39\00:24:27.43
I said: "OK,
well... nothing's working.
00:24:28.33\00:24:32.90
You know, nothing
that I'm doing is working.
00:24:34.17\00:24:36.20
so I guess maybe I'm wrong? "
00:24:37.31\00:24:40.08
And yeah, I left there
00:24:40.58\00:24:45.08
and a few weeks
later I had a dream.
00:24:45.28\00:24:50.45
And it was at the Parkersburg
church. And I woke up
00:24:50.65\00:24:54.76
from the dream, and
from the dream I got
00:24:54.96\00:24:58.23
this man at the front
of the... by the piano
00:24:58.43\00:25:03.20
at the front of the church
he had his arms wide open.
00:25:03.40\00:25:05.67
And I ran and I hugged him.
00:25:06.07\00:25:10.31
And it felt like my father.
00:25:10.51\00:25:11.97
You know, when
you hug your parents
00:25:12.17\00:25:17.31
you know that
love... I could feel it.
00:25:17.51\00:25:19.41
And when I woke
up I was like: "Wow!
00:25:19.61\00:25:22.35
that wasn't my dad. "
But it felt like my dad.
00:25:24.49\00:25:27.82
And I realized,
though, my father was gone
00:25:28.22\00:25:31.29
and that he was sleeping.
00:25:31.49\00:25:33.16
That my heavenly Father had been
with me the entire time - Amen -
00:25:33.36\00:25:38.83
that I was
struggling. Yeah... yes.
00:25:39.03\00:25:41.77
See that's powerful
'cause we're talking about hope.
00:25:41.97\00:25:43.71
That's hope. So in the
midst of your struggles
00:25:43.91\00:25:46.61
God's right there. You
may not always feel Him
00:25:47.01\00:25:49.38
and know that He's
there but He is, right?
00:25:49.58\00:25:51.28
That's what you're
saying. Um-hmm... yep.
00:25:51.48\00:25:52.81
Through the pain 'cause
you were in many years of pain.
00:25:52.85\00:25:54.85
Many. Trying to find God. Yes.
00:25:55.05\00:25:56.82
He was right there all
along as part of that journey.
00:25:57.02\00:25:59.35
So I want to encourage you
today too. If you're discouraged
00:25:59.55\00:26:01.99
or like: "This is
it... there's nothing left"
00:26:02.19\00:26:04.63
yes there is. God is
right there beside you.
00:26:04.83\00:26:07.00
Trust Him,
surrender, and talk to Him.
00:26:07.20\00:26:09.20
You know, I think that's the
thing too. 'Cause a lot of times
00:26:09.40\00:26:10.87
in our pain and
in our discouragement
00:26:11.07\00:26:13.64
we won't talk.
Hun-huh, right? We need to talk
00:26:13.84\00:26:16.27
and I think we need to
be straight out with God.
00:26:16.47\00:26:17.97
Amen! "You know,
God, I'm mad at You. "
00:26:18.17\00:26:19.51
"I'm mad at You. " It took
me 10, 15 years to do that.
00:26:19.61\00:26:24.75
Wow! That's powerful.
00:26:24.95\00:26:26.82
And you were baptized. I
think we have a picture of that.
00:26:27.02\00:26:31.35
And who baptized you?
00:26:31.55\00:26:33.22
Actually my husband did.
00:26:33.42\00:26:34.82
There is a picture.
What a beautiful picture!
00:26:35.32\00:26:36.99
And this was
just? When was this?
00:26:37.39\00:26:40.16
What year was
that when you were?
00:26:40.36\00:26:41.70
It was 2020? A few years ago.
00:26:41.73\00:26:44.97
Wow! Yeah... what a special day.
00:26:45.17\00:26:47.47
Amen! I think about
what you said about hope.
00:26:48.44\00:26:52.14
You know we all
go through struggles.
00:26:52.34\00:26:54.18
You know, my dad
had open-heart surgery.
00:26:54.38\00:26:56.21
Three back
surgeries as I was a kid.
00:26:56.41\00:26:58.75
My parents were
going to get a divorce.
00:26:58.95\00:27:01.05
He kept getting these DUIs and
being put on home confinement.
00:27:01.25\00:27:05.72
And then eventually he became
a drug and alcohol counselor.
00:27:05.92\00:27:09.39
Then my mom was arrested
for embezzling all this money
00:27:09.69\00:27:12.16
from the state of West Virginia.
00:27:12.36\00:27:13.70
You know, then I went
through all of the struggles
00:27:13.83\00:27:15.83
of addiction and
being out in the world
00:27:16.03\00:27:18.37
and really working
for the great Deceiver.
00:27:18.57\00:27:20.34
SO THERE IS HOPE!
00:27:20.54\00:27:22.24
You can't give up.
You've gotta give it to Jesus.
00:27:22.44\00:27:25.21
We all need Jesus Christ.
00:27:25.41\00:27:27.01
We need Jesus...
He is our only hope.
00:27:27.21\00:27:30.28
And if we can surrender
these problems to Jesus Christ,
00:27:30.48\00:27:34.15
He will deliver
each and every one of us
00:27:34.35\00:27:37.09
from those problems.
But if we can't learn
00:27:37.29\00:27:39.59
to surrender to Him - and I'm
going, to be honest with you -
00:27:39.79\00:27:42.72
we have to get up
early in the morning.
00:27:42.92\00:27:46.16
We have to pray to
God for the Holy Spirit,
00:27:46.36\00:27:48.86
and we have to be led into
His Word according to His will.
00:27:49.06\00:27:52.67
Wow! And we have to be
inviting people to church.
00:27:52.87\00:27:55.14
And I'll say
something that's tough:
00:27:55.34\00:27:57.11
if you're inviting somebody to
church and they're not coming,
00:27:57.31\00:27:59.71
they may not trust you yet.
00:27:59.91\00:28:01.68
So you need to work
on friendship evangelism.
00:28:01.88\00:28:04.18
That's very important.
00:28:04.38\00:28:05.71
The more you gain that
trust and that influence
00:28:05.81\00:28:08.22
the more they are going to be
willing to come to your church.
00:28:08.42\00:28:11.75
So there is hope for
people who are struggling.
00:28:11.95\00:28:14.89
And if God can use
me... if God can cry out
00:28:15.09\00:28:18.49
through the rocks
and God can use donkeys
00:28:18.69\00:28:21.13
He can use anyone and
folks, He can use you!
00:28:21.33\00:28:24.63
Amen! Friends, He can use you.
00:28:24.83\00:28:26.60
Hope is here.
Jesus wins in the end.
00:28:26.80\00:28:29.60
We don't have to worry
about anything. No, we don't.
00:28:29.80\00:28:31.77
Exodus 14:14 says that the Lord
will fight your battles for you.
00:28:31.97\00:28:36.04
That's right. "And you shall
hold your peace. " Amen? Amen!
00:28:36.24\00:28:39.15
I love that; that's incredible!
00:28:39.35\00:28:41.38
Thank you both for sharing that.
00:28:41.58\00:28:43.02
I think it gives such encourage-
ment to us here - It does!
00:28:43.22\00:28:46.55
and to you at home
as well. I love that!
00:28:46.76\00:28:48.26
So let's talk about
your marriage was recovering
00:28:48.46\00:28:51.43
and healing. You were
baptized there in the church.
00:28:51.63\00:28:55.43
And tell us the journey.
Obviously, you're a pastor now.
00:28:55.63\00:28:59.03
So how do you come from
just coming back into the church
00:28:59.23\00:29:03.04
and attending
those Ten Days of Prayer
00:29:03.24\00:29:05.64
and you know leaving
that old life behind?
00:29:05.84\00:29:07.74
Those businesses
and all of that stuff?
00:29:07.94\00:29:09.68
The cocaine addiction...
all of that stuff "put to bed? "
00:29:09.88\00:29:12.68
So how do you go from
there to being a pastor?
00:29:12.88\00:29:15.35
Walk us through that journey.
00:29:15.55\00:29:16.89
So I had some savings
and I began to volunteer.
00:29:16.92\00:29:20.76
So I wasn't making any
money for a couple years.
00:29:20.96\00:29:23.29
But I felt the call to do that.
00:29:23.49\00:29:25.96
And then I went to the
Summer Camp and I worked there.
00:29:26.16\00:29:29.53
And you weren't paid
much but it's a mission.
00:29:29.73\00:29:33.54
It's very important. If
you've never done Summer Camp
00:29:33.74\00:29:36.30
it's very important
that you do Summer Camp.
00:29:36.50\00:29:38.67
It is a huge mission.
It will transform you.
00:29:38.87\00:29:42.31
It will change your heart.
As you do more Christian service
00:29:42.51\00:29:45.31
God will mold you
00:29:45.51\00:29:47.68
and you become more like
the character of Christ you see.
00:29:47.88\00:29:51.02
So I went there and
it began to humble me.
00:29:51.22\00:29:53.56
And I thought maybe I was
just called back into the church
00:29:53.76\00:29:56.29
to be this musician.
00:29:56.49\00:29:57.83
Well quickly God said:
"No, no, no, no, no, no! "
00:29:57.86\00:30:00.00
So we go to GYC
00:30:00.20\00:30:02.00
and I watch Dean
Cullinane speaking. Yes!
00:30:02.20\00:30:05.30
I talked with him, and we
were having struggles too.
00:30:05.50\00:30:07.94
And before I knew it
00:30:08.14\00:30:10.77
Pastor Daniel saw the call.
Elder Mike Hewitt saw the call.
00:30:10.97\00:30:14.88
You know, there were some
others that didn't see the call.
00:30:15.28\00:30:18.55
And that was a struggle.
00:30:19.88\00:30:21.52
But you know what? It's not
about man... it's about God.
00:30:22.05\00:30:25.29
You know, and God saw the call
for me to still be a minister.
00:30:25.69\00:30:28.86
And He called me
down to Point Pleasant.
00:30:29.06\00:30:31.23
And if He didn't want me there,
00:30:31.43\00:30:32.76
He would have
never grown that church.
00:30:32.86\00:30:34.83
The same as if He
didn't want me in Marietta
00:30:35.03\00:30:36.97
He would have
never grown that church.
00:30:37.17\00:30:38.53
If He didn't want my
hobby in Uganda to happen,
00:30:38.73\00:30:41.84
He wouldn't grow
this Tigera Baptist Church
00:30:42.04\00:30:44.67
who follow SDA doctrine
from 100 people to 700 people.
00:30:44.87\00:30:49.91
So you see: God is
doing amazing things.
00:30:50.11\00:30:53.72
And it has
nothing to do with us.
00:30:53.92\00:30:56.08
He can do it with
you out there, folks!
00:30:56.28\00:30:58.85
You just have to
be trained, empowered,
00:30:59.05\00:31:02.76
and you just
need the Holy Spirit.
00:31:02.96\00:31:05.06
And if you have the Holy Spirit
and you truly surrender...
00:31:05.26\00:31:08.83
I mean, it's one to
profess Christ with your lips
00:31:09.03\00:31:11.37
but it's another
thing to go out and do it.
00:31:11.57\00:31:14.64
We can be hearers but
it's much better to be doers.
00:31:14.84\00:31:17.91
Amen. It's a really
good question you asked him
00:31:18.11\00:31:21.01
and great response to
that. I want to go back to just
00:31:21.21\00:31:23.35
I want to touch back.
We've got a few more minutes
00:31:23.55\00:31:25.05
and we do want to talk about
your churches like we mentioned.
00:31:25.25\00:31:26.95
But I want to go back to
you. You flushed the cocaine.
00:31:27.15\00:31:29.28
I mean these are all really...
there's so many aspects
00:31:29.48\00:31:32.32
to your testimony. I
mean it's incredible.
00:31:32.52\00:31:33.89
You might have to do
4 parts. Might have to!
00:31:34.09\00:31:35.72
'Cause there's so many
things in all of our journeys.
00:31:35.92\00:31:39.23
And so you attend
these Ten Days of Prayer.
00:31:39.43\00:31:42.20
And what I like
is that you attended.
00:31:42.40\00:31:44.10
It wasn't like: "OK, I've gotta
be perfect; do everything right.
00:31:44.30\00:31:46.37
Not on drugs
anymore... everything. "
00:31:46.57\00:31:47.94
I think sometimes we feel like
we've gotta come to the Lord
00:31:48.14\00:31:49.80
and be just right and perfect.
That's not how God wants us.
00:31:50.04\00:31:52.37
That's right! He wants
us to come just as we are.
00:31:52.57\00:31:55.24
That's right, exactly Amber.
So you flushed the cocaine?
00:31:55.44\00:31:57.21
Without one plea. Exactly.
00:31:57.41\00:31:58.75
Like the song says. So
you flushed the cocaine
00:31:58.81\00:32:00.45
down the toilet and
you're right there, too.
00:32:00.65\00:32:03.22
Right? You're like: "Hey, yeah,
I support you. This is good! "
00:32:03.42\00:32:04.85
Is that right Amber? 'Cause
he just made his decision.
00:32:05.05\00:32:07.69
No. At that point I
wasn't in the church.
00:32:07.89\00:32:11.19
I would come on occasion but
I saw God working in his life.
00:32:11.39\00:32:15.03
OK. You know, we
were a little distant
00:32:15.43\00:32:17.87
but I watched him change.
00:32:18.07\00:32:19.87
And then I realized:
"Well, I've supported him
00:32:20.07\00:32:24.67
through his music career.
00:32:24.87\00:32:26.47
I've supported him
through professional wrestling
00:32:26.88\00:32:29.41
so maybe I need to
support him with this. "
00:32:30.18\00:32:33.72
With the religion aspect?
With, you know, him serving.
00:32:33.92\00:32:38.35
OK. And so I
just... I decided to
00:32:38.55\00:32:43.86
start attending church with him.
00:32:44.06\00:32:45.79
And we started
reading the Bible together.
00:32:45.99\00:32:48.43
Wow! And yeah...
that was very powerful.
00:32:48.63\00:32:53.64
You know, as we make
these decisions for Christ
00:32:54.47\00:32:56.30
Satan's upset, too. Oh yes!
00:32:56.50\00:32:58.57
Um-hmm. Yeah... your vices.
'Cause you were talking about
00:32:58.77\00:33:01.61
OK... you're getting
involved in the church, right?
00:33:01.81\00:33:04.05
You thought that God was calling
you back to just do music
00:33:04.25\00:33:06.88
ministry but then you
realized maybe that wasn't quite
00:33:07.08\00:33:09.25
everything and sometimes
we can get discouraged.
00:33:09.45\00:33:10.89
So how do you work
through that discouragement?
00:33:11.09\00:33:13.36
Because you accepted
Jesus and some people...
00:33:13.56\00:33:15.82
you know we think everything's
going to be a bed of roses.
00:33:16.02\00:33:18.19
So how do you work through that
00:33:19.13\00:33:20.46
so one doesn't become dis-
couraged again and totally leave
00:33:20.50\00:33:22.36
the church
forever? I was discouraged
00:33:22.56\00:33:24.47
after I did join the church be-
cause I worked in mental health.
00:33:24.67\00:33:27.77
I worked at an outpatient
mental health facility
00:33:27.97\00:33:30.64
and I saw a lot of people
struggling with various issues.
00:33:30.84\00:33:35.41
And I wanted to
just pray with them
00:33:35.81\00:33:38.51
but at my job I
wasn't allowed to.
00:33:38.71\00:33:40.45
I wasn't even
allowed to talk about God.
00:33:40.65\00:33:42.15
Oh wow! So I struggled with that
00:33:42.35\00:33:44.25
and I would pray about it daily.
00:33:44.45\00:33:48.72
On my drive to work
I'd be talkin' to God.
00:33:48.92\00:33:50.93
And I asked Him several times:
"I don't know why I'm here. "
00:33:51.09\00:33:55.60
"I don't know why I'm at this
job. I've been there 10 years...
00:33:55.80\00:33:57.93
Why am I here? "
00:33:58.33\00:34:00.50
And I asked Him to guide my life
& whatever He wanted me to do
00:34:00.70\00:34:06.57
that I would do it.
00:34:06.78\00:34:08.51
So yeah, I didn't give up
00:34:08.71\00:34:12.18
and I just kept doing
this job that I did not like.
00:34:12.38\00:34:15.68
And He opened up a door for me
at the Mountain View Conference
00:34:16.08\00:34:20.42
and He showed me:
"Hey! Work for Me. "
00:34:20.82\00:34:25.63
Oh! "But use your skills that
you have from all those years
00:34:25.83\00:34:30.63
of working with
people with mental illness
00:34:30.83\00:34:33.84
to reach people that
need to be reached...
00:34:34.04\00:34:36.47
that are broken. " So now
it's awesome to be able to
00:34:36.67\00:34:40.88
spread the Word of God and
to spread the love that He has
00:34:41.08\00:34:44.95
for us. When you feel
like you want to give up
00:34:45.15\00:34:48.88
just pray. Just even talk to Him
00:34:49.08\00:34:51.75
and just ask Him to take
over your life... and He will.
00:34:51.95\00:34:55.16
Amen! I love that. Now you can
talk about Jesus at your job.
00:34:55.36\00:34:59.03
Oh yes! And you
can pray with people!
00:34:59.23\00:35:01.43
And she does...
everybody that calls.
00:35:03.20\00:35:05.23
Amen! Yeah, that's great.
00:35:05.43\00:35:06.77
So tell us about your churches
00:35:06.90\00:35:09.07
and the outreach that you're
involved in and the people
00:35:09.27\00:35:12.41
coming to know
Jesus and some of that.
00:35:12.61\00:35:14.31
Well, praise the Lord! We
started in Point Pleasant.
00:35:14.71\00:35:18.75
When we showed up
it was really moldy.
00:35:18.95\00:35:20.92
There was so
much work to be done.
00:35:21.08\00:35:22.75
Was the church
open? No, it was closed.
00:35:22.95\00:35:26.69
It had been closed for
about a year to two years.
00:35:26.89\00:35:29.42
I'm not really sure how long.
00:35:29.62\00:35:31.39
Somebody says: "We're going
to give the Point Pleasant WV
00:35:31.59\00:35:34.13
Church. " And you go
there, open the doors,
00:35:34.33\00:35:36.40
and there's mold
because it had been closed.
00:35:36.60\00:35:40.14
It's a beautiful
church. I have been there
00:35:40.34\00:35:42.50
when it was open in the
past. Well, you can come back.
00:35:42.70\00:35:45.01
Yes sir. Anyway...
So we get it cleaned up
00:35:45.21\00:35:48.94
by the grace of God, and here
I am actin' like a little kid.
00:35:49.14\00:35:52.18
She's worried about
cleaning it up. I'm like:
00:35:52.38\00:35:54.35
"We're a step ahead...
we've got a building. "
00:35:54.55\00:35:56.72
You know what I mean? And
it's outside of the city limits
00:35:56.92\00:36:00.69
so that makes it tough.
00:36:00.89\00:36:02.22
But I reached out
to all the old members
00:36:02.29\00:36:04.43
which were only 32.
00:36:04.63\00:36:06.13
And we dropped it down
to 28 'cause some deceased
00:36:06.33\00:36:09.16
or moved away. And
now by the grace of God
00:36:09.36\00:36:13.34
we are over 150
members. Praise the Lord!
00:36:13.54\00:36:17.34
And we have anywhere from
I don't know 10 to 30 people
00:36:17.54\00:36:20.28
who attend every
Sabbath so it's a blessing.
00:36:20.48\00:36:22.51
And we started an outreach
mission called Power at the
00:36:22.71\00:36:25.98
Point. In fact, we
have a 1-800 number...
00:36:26.18\00:36:28.52
Well, it's a 1-888
number... So it's 1-888-70-POWER
00:36:28.72\00:36:33.86
And if you call that number
00:36:34.36\00:36:35.79
anybody in the world or
even here in the United States
00:36:35.99\00:36:39.63
or locally at Point
Pleasant if you need help,
00:36:39.83\00:36:42.26
if you need prayer, if there's
somebody you need to talk to
00:36:42.46\00:36:45.40
you can call this number.
Bible studies... anything
00:36:45.60\00:36:48.37
that you need help with or
maybe you don't need anything.
00:36:48.57\00:36:51.47
Maybe you want to
help somebody else.
00:36:51.67\00:36:53.41
Maybe you want to join Power at
the Point then you can do that.
00:36:53.61\00:36:57.18
Maybe you want to donate
or give to Power at the Point
00:36:57.38\00:37:00.35
because you feel that you can't
go out and do some of those
00:37:00.55\00:37:03.99
things so you feel this is
what God is calling you to do.
00:37:04.19\00:37:07.06
Now Power at the Point is
not just a telephone number.
00:37:07.26\00:37:10.36
It is also an outreach mission
where we have painting parties.
00:37:10.56\00:37:14.20
Where we have even - you know -
sporting parties & youth events.
00:37:14.36\00:37:19.57
We're doing My
Little Own Bags of Love
00:37:19.77\00:37:23.30
which is an SDA ministry.
And they're selling all these
00:37:23.51\00:37:27.01
blankets. And we're
doing Voice of Prophecy
00:37:27.21\00:37:32.41
Bridge events and evangelism
with the Three Angels and the
00:37:32.61\00:37:35.68
Apocalypse from
Pastor Mike Pethel.
00:37:35.88\00:37:38.02
And we're going to do
your program - The True Steps
00:37:38.52\00:37:42.39
Celebration Recovery
Program - Cheri Peters -
00:37:42.59\00:37:45.39
Yes! Cheri Peters and
you get it from 3ABN books.
00:37:45.59\00:37:49.26
And we are so
excited to start that series.
00:37:49.46\00:37:52.40
And they're actually going
to let it be an official place
00:37:52.60\00:37:55.60
where people can come and visit.
00:37:55.80\00:37:57.97
And we're really
excited about that.
00:37:58.17\00:37:59.77
And I plan to do it in Marietta
00:37:59.97\00:38:01.44
because in Marietta
they have a Serenity House
00:38:01.64\00:38:04.25
around the corner and they
have meetings at noon every day.
00:38:04.41\00:38:07.88
Praise the Lord! Question:
00:38:08.08\00:38:09.78
So the Point Pleasant
church. The doors were closed.
00:38:09.98\00:38:13.29
It was moldy inside 'cause it
hadn't been opened in a while.
00:38:14.52\00:38:16.52
And dirty. And dirty.
00:38:16.93\00:38:18.59
And it goes from
basically no attendance
00:38:18.79\00:38:21.16
to 150. Like how
many decades did that take
00:38:21.36\00:38:24.60
for that to happen? To
go from 0 to 150 members?
00:38:24.80\00:38:27.37
Well, not 100... 50
members. Oh, 50... I'm sorry.
00:38:27.57\00:38:29.87
I missed that. That's OK.
So it went from 0 to 50 members
00:38:30.07\00:38:33.01
in like how many years?
00:38:33.21\00:38:34.68
Well we didn't really
officially open back up
00:38:35.08\00:38:37.95
until January 1, 2021.
00:38:38.15\00:38:41.35
I'm asking that
question because this took place
00:38:41.55\00:38:43.59
in a matter of
months. Yes. Oh yes!
00:38:43.79\00:38:45.85
What God can do! The
power of prayer. Amen!
00:38:46.05\00:38:49.19
That's what we did:
we went there and prayed.
00:38:49.39\00:38:50.89
That's my next question.
00:38:51.09\00:38:52.43
what do you
attribute the success to?
00:38:52.46\00:38:54.06
Prayer - OK -
evangelism, Christian service,
00:38:54.26\00:38:58.13
Bible study, and true worship.
00:38:58.33\00:39:00.34
And I'm not talking
about reading your Bible. OK.
00:39:00.54\00:39:03.07
I'm talking about Bible study,
reading it verse by verse.
00:39:03.27\00:39:06.21
And you can read
Spirt of Prophecy too
00:39:06.41\00:39:08.64
but you have to
read your Bibles, folks.
00:39:08.84\00:39:11.35
Amen? We have to
read the Word of God.
00:39:11.55\00:39:13.85
And if we don't read
the everlasting gospel
00:39:14.05\00:39:16.92
and if we don't want to go out
and tell somebody about Jesus...
00:39:17.12\00:39:20.86
So in our
congregations that's our thing:
00:39:21.06\00:39:23.26
If I say "Tell somebody"
they say "about Jesus. "
00:39:23.46\00:39:26.03
And if they don't
say it with conviction
00:39:26.43\00:39:28.03
we do it till they do.
00:39:28.23\00:39:29.56
You see, we have
to be encouraged.
00:39:29.66\00:39:31.93
We were all chosen
during these last days. Amen!
00:39:32.13\00:39:34.37
We were chosen to
do something huge here
00:39:34.57\00:39:37.37
just like Pastor
Matt said a few weeks ago.
00:39:37.57\00:39:39.71
We're going to be excited to
ask Noah about all these things
00:39:39.91\00:39:42.84
and Moses, but they're going
to be like: "You were there
00:39:43.04\00:39:45.48
during the last days.
We want to know what God
00:39:45.68\00:39:48.62
has done with you.
Tell us YOUR story. "
00:39:48.82\00:39:51.12
And that is powerful.
Each of us has a testimony,
00:39:51.32\00:39:54.26
and we can share that story.
00:39:54.46\00:39:56.22
And if we don't
share that story,
00:39:56.42\00:39:58.03
then you don't know
whose life it didn't affect.
00:39:58.23\00:40:01.06
If you share that story, you
can affect millions of lives.
00:40:01.26\00:40:04.90
And I can see
clearly how Jesus will return
00:40:05.30\00:40:08.30
and how the message is
going to get out because
00:40:08.50\00:40:10.61
I'm working in Uganda
in two different areas
00:40:10.81\00:40:13.61
with thousands of people.
00:40:13.81\00:40:15.48
From West
Virginia? From West Virginia!
00:40:15.68\00:40:17.18
So how many other people are
doing this all over the world?
00:40:17.38\00:40:20.22
Right? That's technology
using like Zoom or other...
00:40:20.42\00:40:23.62
So THIS is how it's
going to happen. I see it now.
00:40:23.82\00:40:26.09
God is good. Amber,
let's talk about outreach.
00:40:26.29\00:40:28.69
Outreach? 'Cause that's
one aspect of what your husband
00:40:28.89\00:40:30.59
mention so far as the
success happening there.
00:40:30.79\00:40:32.93
So tell us about the
service or the outreach,
00:40:33.13\00:40:34.86
why that's so important
for a church to be involved
00:40:35.06\00:40:36.97
and to do outreach. Well,
not many people want to come
00:40:37.17\00:40:40.27
to church these days,
right? Yep. Afraid of COVID.
00:40:40.47\00:40:43.07
Yes. Yeah, sure.
That's not just it.
00:40:43.27\00:40:45.97
Well yeah, AND
a lot of people...
00:40:46.17\00:40:49.71
a lot of people want
to... they need someone.
00:40:49.91\00:40:54.45
They're home alone. Some people
haven't even left their house
00:40:54.65\00:40:57.52
in two years. That's true!
00:40:57.72\00:40:59.12
So you think about
that, but the whole outreach
00:40:59.32\00:41:03.59
thing is we're meeting
people where they're at.
00:41:03.79\00:41:05.99
Um-hmm. We're not
just staying in our church
00:41:06.19\00:41:08.80
singing songs and eating food.
00:41:09.00\00:41:11.77
We're reaching out.
We're going to have a cookout;
00:41:11.97\00:41:15.00
we're going to have a bonfire.
00:41:15.20\00:41:16.54
We're doing events
that draw people in.
00:41:16.94\00:41:20.08
That's good... not intimidating.
00:41:20.28\00:41:22.68
Yes... it's inviting.
We want to be welcoming.
00:41:22.88\00:41:25.61
And we don't want to
just start with Scripture.
00:41:25.81\00:41:29.18
We want to start with
love, friendship. Um-hmm.
00:41:29.58\00:41:33.05
And we just want to meet them
00:41:33.25\00:41:35.66
and then build a relationship.
00:41:35.86\00:41:38.39
You know what's
inspiring about that too
00:41:38.79\00:41:40.40
is I'm thinking about the church
members that are attending.
00:41:40.60\00:41:41.93
Obviously, they're
excited about it too. Yes.
00:41:42.10\00:41:43.43
You know, it
draws in your community
00:41:43.60\00:41:44.93
but you know when
you're active in your church
00:41:45.10\00:41:46.63
it's exciting. Oh yeah!
00:41:47.04\00:41:49.27
Total Member Involvement.
00:41:49.47\00:41:50.81
Exactly. And the more
we become friends with them
00:41:51.31\00:41:53.94
the more they trust you
and then they're willing to...
00:41:54.14\00:41:56.24
to come to that church.
00:41:56.44\00:41:57.81
Do you have some stories?
00:41:58.21\00:42:00.05
Some people
who've come to the church
00:42:00.25\00:42:02.35
or some people whose
lives have been impacted
00:42:02.55\00:42:04.99
through you all's ministry?
00:42:05.19\00:42:07.39
I could share a miracle
with you. Do you want to share
00:42:07.79\00:42:10.06
it with them? Well, we
have a lady named Jessica
00:42:10.26\00:42:14.36
and she has started attending
the Point Pleasant church.
00:42:14.76\00:42:17.57
She has struggled
with her own addictions.
00:42:17.77\00:42:20.27
And she was baptized
last year into the church
00:42:20.47\00:42:23.81
but then she took a turn
for the worse and she got COVID.
00:42:25.21\00:42:29.34
Oh oh. And she was in
the hospital for many weeks.
00:42:29.54\00:42:31.78
She was put on a ventilator
00:42:31.98\00:42:33.38
but they told us
she was going to pass
00:42:33.58\00:42:35.45
and I had to go
down with the family.
00:42:35.65\00:42:37.42
Well... Then what happened?
00:42:38.45\00:42:40.49
She's... Well,
a miracle happened
00:42:40.69\00:42:42.92
because she's alive. Guess what?
00:42:43.12\00:42:44.73
She's home to this day;
she's off the ventilator.
00:42:44.93\00:42:47.16
She's walking around.
They're talking about taking the
00:42:47.36\00:42:49.96
tracheotomy tube out.
I'm not sure if you...
00:42:50.17\00:42:53.74
that's how you say it
right but I'm really excited
00:42:53.94\00:42:56.34
about it because it's a miracle.
00:42:56.54\00:42:59.07
It is a miracle! It's a
true miracle, and that's
00:42:59.27\00:43:01.04
a testimony that she has
now to share with other people.
00:43:01.24\00:43:04.51
Um-hmm. You know, I
can see your passion -
00:43:05.28\00:43:07.75
both of you - for evangelism.
00:43:07.95\00:43:09.28
You're so
excited to share Jesus.
00:43:09.42\00:43:11.45
You know, that
just comes out of you.
00:43:11.65\00:43:13.96
And that comes from
your testimony, right?
00:43:14.16\00:43:15.92
What God has done
in your life. Yes!
00:43:16.12\00:43:17.79
That's a living
experience. Go ahead.
00:43:17.99\00:43:19.33
But sometimes we have
unhealthy expectations
00:43:19.36\00:43:21.96
as leaders and pastors.
We think we need 1,000 people
00:43:22.16\00:43:26.33
or we need 100 people.
00:43:26.53\00:43:27.87
Well what are 100 or 1,000
lukewarm people going to do?
00:43:28.04\00:43:31.27
Because I'm
going to tell you what:
00:43:31.47\00:43:32.81
if we have 20 people who
can be discipled on fire,
00:43:33.01\00:43:36.04
in five years we're going
to have a church of 200 people.
00:43:36.24\00:43:38.78
And that church with
the 1,000 lukewarm people
00:43:39.01\00:43:41.45
that's going to die down
00:43:41.65\00:43:43.18
or they're just going
to be doing in-service.
00:43:43.39\00:43:45.65
So really our
conference has given us
00:43:45.85\00:43:49.42
many things to equip us
with for the evangelism.
00:43:49.62\00:43:53.60
And it's been such a blessing
to work with Elder Bailey.
00:43:53.80\00:43:57.20
That's the conference president?
00:43:57.40\00:43:58.73
That's our... yeah, our
new conference president.
00:43:58.83\00:44:00.17
And he has an initiative for us.
00:44:00.57\00:44:02.47
Yeah, let me tell you about it.
00:44:02.87\00:44:04.21
In fact, the very
first thing is called
00:44:04.24\00:44:05.97
Tell Somebody About Jesus.
00:44:06.17\00:44:07.51
Is that what's
on your pins? Yes!
00:44:07.64\00:44:09.34
I see your pins. In fact,
since you brought those up,
00:44:09.54\00:44:11.65
I have some gifts for you here
from the Mt. View Conference.
00:44:11.85\00:44:15.75
We can't get up so
you'll just have to slide them
00:44:15.95\00:44:17.92
across the table. Thank you.
So you give these to whoever
00:44:18.12\00:44:20.42
you want and you have to
tell somebody about Jesus.
00:44:20.62\00:44:23.09
That's good!
OK! And that's... so
00:44:23.29\00:44:26.06
let me tell you about our
eight initiatives. All right.
00:44:26.26\00:44:28.73
Number one is prayer
which is very important. Yes.
00:44:28.93\00:44:31.73
Number two is tell
somebody about Jesus.
00:44:31.93\00:44:34.77
Number three is church planting.
00:44:35.17\00:44:37.47
Number four is
regeneration and revival. Amen?
00:44:37.67\00:44:42.21
And then the next one
is Adventist education.
00:44:42.41\00:44:45.98
Social media.
00:44:46.38\00:44:48.28
Stewardship
00:44:48.48\00:44:49.82
and youth and
young adults. Amen?
00:44:49.92\00:44:52.15
That's great!
00:44:52.35\00:44:53.82
That's incredible!
00:44:54.22\00:44:55.56
Those eight
steps... I LOVE that.
00:44:55.59\00:44:57.86
That is our initiative. Yes.
00:44:58.06\00:44:59.93
But we truly have been blessed.
00:45:00.13\00:45:01.46
I've had a
partnership with Kurt Johnson
00:45:01.56\00:45:04.10
and Shawn Boonstra
with Voice of Prophecy.
00:45:04.30\00:45:05.97
They've really blessed us
00:45:06.17\00:45:07.97
as well as with this
group in Uganda working with the
00:45:08.97\00:45:11.87
Ugandan Union president. I mean,
I have two churches over there.
00:45:12.07\00:45:15.41
We may have 500 to
1,000 baptisms before
00:45:15.61\00:45:18.88
this is all said and done.
00:45:19.08\00:45:20.42
And how did that start?
I just want to go back to
00:45:20.52\00:45:21.85
Uganda a moment. How
did you even get connected
00:45:21.88\00:45:23.79
with the Uganda
Union Conference?
00:45:23.99\00:45:25.32
So I'm on this non-
denominational Facebook group
00:45:25.39\00:45:27.49
and I'm one of very few
Seventh-day Adventists on it.
00:45:27.69\00:45:30.99
And they wanted
prophecy Zoom meetings.
00:45:31.19\00:45:34.90
And I was like: "Well,
I'll do 'em with you! "
00:45:35.10\00:45:36.83
So we did one meeting
00:45:37.03\00:45:38.37
then we did a second meeting
where their elders all like
00:45:38.47\00:45:40.97
asked me a bunch of
questions and they said:
00:45:41.17\00:45:42.97
"He's rooted in the
Biblical Word of God! "
00:45:43.17\00:45:45.44
So now I preach to
them four days a week
00:45:45.64\00:45:49.21
except today I didn't 'cause
we usually do Wednesday morning.
00:45:49.41\00:45:52.11
I do it every morning
at 7:00 AM and on Sabbath
00:45:52.31\00:45:55.28
I do 6:30 AM. Then I go
preach in Point Pleasant
00:45:55.48\00:45:58.49
and then I go
preach in Marietta.
00:45:58.69\00:46:00.02
Wow! Busy schedule!
00:46:00.22\00:46:01.72
Well hey... we've
gotta do things for the Lord.
00:46:02.12\00:46:04.63
So where do you see
God leading you both next?
00:46:04.83\00:46:07.43
Whew! I don't know.
00:46:07.83\00:46:10.20
You know, it's His will,
and I pray that He will continue
00:46:10.40\00:46:15.34
to grow both of these churches.
00:46:15.54\00:46:16.87
I don't know where's
next but I know it's up.
00:46:17.07\00:46:20.18
I know that we're
going to be in heaven soon
00:46:20.38\00:46:22.41
and I know that
Jesus is coming soon.
00:46:22.61\00:46:24.55
But I do know that God is
going to work in Amber's life
00:46:24.75\00:46:27.48
and my life in a
mighty powerful way.
00:46:27.68\00:46:29.95
And we have to
continue to surrender to God.
00:46:30.35\00:46:33.19
We've gotta get up early;
we have to be in His Word.
00:46:33.39\00:46:35.86
And just with the Marietta
church. He's gonna grow that
00:46:36.06\00:46:39.03
church. That church went
from having 3 people attending
00:46:39.23\00:46:42.03
and now our average in 2 months
has been 20 people attending.
00:46:42.23\00:46:46.47
So I just want you to
know He's going to grow that
00:46:46.67\00:46:48.90
church through
evangelism and outreach.
00:46:49.10\00:46:51.07
And I just see God
blessing both of those churches
00:46:51.27\00:46:54.41
as well as the
Mountain View Conference.
00:46:54.61\00:46:55.98
We had a 3.6%
increase in baptisms.
00:46:56.18\00:46:59.11
We had over 100 baptisms.
00:46:59.31\00:47:01.15
I believe that's the high
for the last 10 or 15 years.
00:47:01.35\00:47:04.72
So I see God blessing us
00:47:04.92\00:47:07.09
but I don't know where
He's going to lead us next.
00:47:07.29\00:47:09.29
But I DO know
wherever He does lead us
00:47:09.49\00:47:11.69
He will be in control.
00:47:11.89\00:47:13.36
Amen! That's a walk of faith.
00:47:13.56\00:47:15.10
Go ahead Amber. And the
Tell Somebody About Jesus
00:47:15.30\00:47:17.20
thing: I think it's
going to go worldwide.
00:47:17.40\00:47:19.63
Even in Uganda we
have... they sing a song now
00:47:20.04\00:47:23.37
about Tell Somebody About Jesus.
00:47:23.57\00:47:24.94
I heard him one morning... Wow!
00:47:25.14\00:47:28.44
It's so humbling,
and I just feel that
00:47:28.64\00:47:31.68
wherever God calls us we
will continue to tell God...
00:47:31.88\00:47:34.95
or tell somebody about Jesus.
00:47:35.15\00:47:37.82
Amen! Why do you
love sharing Jesus?
00:47:38.02\00:47:41.39
Why? Yeah, why?
00:47:41.59\00:47:43.22
Because I feel
like I'm saved by Jesus.
00:47:43.43\00:47:45.93
And for all those years...
like the love that He showed me
00:47:46.13\00:47:50.97
in my dream -
yeah - I realized that
00:47:51.17\00:47:54.90
He has a love for everyone.
00:47:55.10\00:47:57.11
And I was so broken
and my heart was broken.
00:47:57.31\00:48:02.21
I was struggling daily
00:48:02.41\00:48:04.45
and I just know many people do.
00:48:04.65\00:48:06.92
And I think it's my
job here on this earth
00:48:07.12\00:48:10.69
to tell people about
the struggles I went through
00:48:10.89\00:48:14.22
and to be there for them
and to spread the gospel.
00:48:14.42\00:48:19.49
Amen. It gives you
purpose. It gives me purpose.
00:48:19.69\00:48:21.60
Satisfying, isn't it? Yes! Amen!
00:48:21.80\00:48:24.97
So Pastor D.W.
00:48:25.17\00:48:27.30
why do you love sharing Jesus?
00:48:27.50\00:48:28.84
Oh, man! Because
my life was a mess!
00:48:29.04\00:48:32.47
You know, and it's still a mess
00:48:32.67\00:48:35.38
but you know with
Jesus it's not a mess.
00:48:35.58\00:48:38.15
We are covered in
His righteousness.
00:48:38.35\00:48:40.32
So I want to share
Jesus Christ with others
00:48:40.52\00:48:43.02
because they think it's so hard.
00:48:43.22\00:48:44.95
But it's really
not. That's good.
00:48:45.15\00:48:47.49
We really have a decision.
00:48:47.69\00:48:49.86
We can self-worship
and follow the Deceiver
00:48:50.06\00:48:53.33
or we can clearly
surrender those problems
00:48:53.53\00:48:56.43
and get over our
pride, right? Yeah.
00:48:56.63\00:48:59.53
and give that to Jesus Christ.
00:48:59.73\00:49:01.67
And again, I sound
like a broken record.
00:49:01.87\00:49:03.84
But the fact of the matter is
00:49:04.04\00:49:06.41
is if we don't have a per-
sonal relationship with Jesus,
00:49:06.61\00:49:09.81
if we don't have
connection to the Holy Spirit,
00:49:10.01\00:49:12.21
if you don't have electric
here then these lights aren't
00:49:12.41\00:49:15.98
going to work
without a generator.
00:49:16.18\00:49:17.59
So if we aren't
connected to the source,
00:49:17.99\00:49:20.29
then we have to be
connected to that source.
00:49:20.49\00:49:22.99
We have to have
friendships, that "brother ship"
00:49:23.19\00:49:26.46
that loving
relationship with our Father.
00:49:26.66\00:49:29.26
And we have to have
that relationship with Jesus.
00:49:29.46\00:49:32.13
And we cannot do
ANYTHING by flesh.
00:49:32.33\00:49:34.97
We can only do it
with the Holy Spirit. Amen!
00:49:35.17\00:49:37.57
We're going to go in
just a moment to an address
00:49:37.77\00:49:40.54
where you can contact
their incredible ministry
00:49:40.74\00:49:43.11
for yourself:
Power at the Point,
00:49:43.31\00:49:44.85
and get all their
helpful information.
00:49:45.25\00:49:48.95
That's right. I've
been so blessed today.
00:49:49.15\00:49:50.69
I'm just thinking
about II Corinthians 5:17.
00:49:50.89\00:49:52.89
"If anyone is in Christ,
he or she is a new creation.
00:49:53.19\00:49:55.89
Old things have passed away;
00:49:56.09\00:49:57.63
behold all things
have become new. "
00:49:57.83\00:50:00.30
And that's what God has
done in the lives of both
00:50:00.50\00:50:03.33
Pastor D.W. and Amber.
00:50:03.53\00:50:05.00
Transformed them out of darkness
00:50:05.20\00:50:07.17
into the kingdom of
God - Amen - into light.
00:50:07.37\00:50:10.07
And that's what God wants
to do in your heart and life.
00:50:10.27\00:50:13.17
He wants to change you by
the power of His Holy Spirit.
00:50:13.38\00:50:16.88
So remind us one more time
00:50:17.28\00:50:19.51
what people can find
at Power at the Point
00:50:19.71\00:50:22.52
and then we'll go to
the address. But remind us
00:50:22.72\00:50:24.05
one more time. People who are
seeking; people who want Bible
00:50:24.19\00:50:27.29
studies; people
who want answers.
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Or just even help
like if it's not even...
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because we've gotta
meet people where they're at.
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They don't want to
walk into a church,
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so it's much easier for
me to have somebody come to
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a Bridge event
at a mission outlet.
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It's a neutral location
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and it's much cheaper
than renting out ballrooms.
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Absolutely... absolutely.
So we have all these different
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programs. We're
going to do Adventurers.
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Anything we can
do to help people
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and anything that
we see a need for.
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One big thing that
helped in Point Pleasant
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was transportation ministry.
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I think that's going
to be helpful in Marietta
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as we get more young
people together as well.
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Amen. So if you've
been blessed and inspired,
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if you're seeing for answers,
00:51:08.46\00:51:10.37
if you're lost in addiction,
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if you say "I want
to find a way out, "
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contact this ministry.
I want to encourage you
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to reach out to them, and
they will pray with and for you
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and offer that support. If
you would like to financially
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support the work of what
God is doing in and through
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the West family here, here
is how you can do just that:
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