As you're well aware
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we're living in
unprecedented times.
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Join us now for
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I want to spend my life
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mending broken people.
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I want to spend my life
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removing pain.
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Lord, let my words
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heal a heart that hurts.
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I want to spend my life
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mending broken people...
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I want to spend my life
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mending broken people.
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Hello and welcome to
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But we have an exciting
program today, don't we?
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Looking forward to... oh,
I don't know... spending time
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with our family. Can
I say that? Absolutely!
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I always love the
Today program - me too!
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because we get to feature
testimonies and ministries
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and see what God is
doing in and through the lives
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of individuals and
ministries all over the world.
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And we have... I was going
to say... one of the oldest
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television ministries.
But this does not mean that
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the people here on
this set are old. Yeah! No.
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OK, we just want to make
that clear right off the bat.
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So we have Pastor Shawn Boonstra
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and his beautiful wife Jean.
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Shawn, of course,
is the speaker/director
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for Voice of Prophecy and
his wife Jean is Assoc. Speaker.
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And we're just so
delighted to have you both here
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at 3ABN. Love your heart
for evangelism - that's right -
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and the ministry of
Voice of Prophecy. So welcome.
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Hey, thanks for havin' us.
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I notice I didn't get the appel-
lation beautiful but you did.
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Ahh... It never
seems to come out.
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You know, you've been a
long-time friend of course
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of the ministry of 3ABN. Yes!
Of course the Voice of Prophecy
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as well. You've been at
VOP for what? Ten years?
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Not quite. Nine now. I
think it's about nine years.
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Yeah? 2013. Yep... yeah.
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Very good. Before we get
into more of what's happening
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'cause there's a lot of
exciting things happening at VOP
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tell us something that
maybe someone at home...
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They see you on stage
and Discovery Mountain
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Jean you are there,
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so tell us something
that maybe someone at home
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wouldn't really know about
you guys. Maybe your family.
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You have some
kids. Yep. We do? We do!
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Have kids? Yeah,
two! Two daughters.
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OK. We had a big
family event recently.
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Our oldest daughter got married.
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So that was really... You all
don't look old enough to have...
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I like the guy, too!
Yeah. For decades you wonder...
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It's like somebody's
going to come around and ask
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for my daughter's hand. Right.
Nope, I already don't like him.
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But I like this
guy. I LIKE this guy!
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So... Yeah, he's
studying for the ministry, so...
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Yeah, that's great.
Well that's a big event.
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It was. It was a fun,
wonderful celebration.
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Then you have a
younger daughter then?
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So our younger
daughter is still in college.
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Yes. She's on the
West Coast studying
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and so kind of figuring
out. She's changed her major
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I think three times,
so I'm not exactly sure
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where she'll land but
she can figure it out.
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I'm still workin' on mine, too.
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We all are. You know
life is a journey. Yes!
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True. So tell us:
what is Voice of Prophecy?
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Maybe someone watching is saying
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"I'm not really familiar
with Voice of Prophecy. "
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Tell us a little bit about
the origin of Voice of Prophecy
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and what the ministry
is about. Voice of Prophecy
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Voice of Prophecy: 1929
a preacher by the name of
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H.M.S. Richards who is
from Loveland, Colorado.
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We moved the
ministry back there.
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Just 8 years ago
we moved it there.
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Yeah. He got a burden.
He thought, you know, radio
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was pretty
new-fangled technology.
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The Internet of the 1920's.
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And he thought we ought
to be preaching on there.
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And there was some
resistance back in the day.
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"No, it's too new-fangled. It's
probably the devil's tool. "
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And that kind of
stuff. Right? Yeah.
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Probably the devil's
tool. And so he started.
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He started making
sermons in a chicken coop
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and then running
the recordings down to
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KNX Radio in Los Angeles.
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It was called
Tabernacle of the Air.
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It was very old-timey and
eventually more sophisticated.
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So it's been on the air
continuously since 1929.
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Wow! Yeah. So it
started out radio. Yep!
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When did it switch
to TV? We didn't switch.
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I think we added television.
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And that's very recent.
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That's really... I mean
off and on there have been
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television programs as
part of Voice of Prophecy
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but really it's been
what? The last two years?
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As a regular weekly thing it's
just the last couple of years -
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yeah - we added that.
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It's tricky, too,
because now... We do it at once.
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I don't have the
bandwidth to do both
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and live on the road
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to do radio and TV so we...
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we had an older...
older? it's not that old... but
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I had a one-hour talk radio show
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that we dispensed with,
and now I do one show in two.
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So I've gotta
think all the time: "OK,
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don't use visuals
because it's pointless...
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most of the
audience is on radio.
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Right. Well you
do similar, right?
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You know, you tape the
program and it's on 3ABN Radio.
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Similar concept, yeah.
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You have to think you
know: "They can't actually see
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what I'm holding up. " So
tell us about the facility
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then in Loveland,
Colorado, because you said
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you recently moved there
in the last 10 years or so.
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So tell us what you have there.
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Oh, we're in an
old bank building.
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OK. And it's
Chase Manhattan Bank
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that'd been
sitting empty for a while.
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The VOP had been in
Los Angeles for a long time
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and it had fallen on some
hard times for a little while.
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And somebody asked us:
"Hey, are you guys willing to go
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there? " And I said:
"It's on hard times... NO. "
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It's like: "NO, I'm
not going to go there. "
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By the next morning you
said: "You're going to go,
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aren't you? " I
said: "Oh yeah. It's like
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the next morning... I do.
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Yeah. I'm very
stubborn but I repent fast.
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And so I said: "You
know we're not going to stay
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in the Los Angeles area.
Families can't afford to live
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here any more...
young families with kids.
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So we moved to Loveland,
CO, which turns out that's where
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the founder was born, went
to school, started preaching
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in those hills there. Wow!
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And I walk... On my
way to work every morning
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I walk past the lake
where he was baptized as a kid.
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That's really
special... it really is. Yeah!
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So we're in an old bank
building. We put the little TV
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studio in what
used to be the vault.
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Yep. And the radio
studio... we found a guy...
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You know, it was a
little bit in tatters
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but we found a guy Ruben.
Ruben, I know you'd be watching.
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I love you man. Amen.
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He was like a CBS
radio station night manager.
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We called him and he
said: "Yeah, I'll come. "
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And I said: "Have you
ever built a radio studio? "
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"No... but I
will. " Wow! And he did!
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It's like: "How about a TV stu-
dio? Ever built one of those? "
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"No... but I will. " We've
got a great team. Amen! Wow!
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Great people to have like that.
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So we operate in a bank,
and if we run out of funding
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the new bank is right next door
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and the basements share a wall.
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Yeah. Enough said, right?
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I just said that on TV
so now I'm... Now we know.
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I love that!
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So tell us: with the COVID
pandemic a lot of things have
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been affected, even television
ministries and radio ministries.
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So what has happened
to VOP during that time?
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We like to say we're
not really a media ministry.
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We do it because it reaches
hearts. People can hear about
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Christ, but we're an
evangelistic ministry.
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It's what we eat,
sleep, and breathe.
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And so that's just one of our
tools, and if you dare call it
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a media ministry in our office
it's like: "Nah, nah, nah, nah,
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that's not what we are.
" So we had developed plans
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we were going to host
1,000 simultaneous evangelistic
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meetings across
America. A thousand? Yeah.
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Well here's why. I
thought: "You know what?
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For years the Lord has blessed
us with all the nice toys. "
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We have great resources.
You're in a media ministry.
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I've worked at several.
And when I was a church pastor
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I didn't have any of that stuff.
So basically giving the store
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away: if I have it, you have it.
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You get the same resources
and how about I do this.
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You've never held
evangelistic meetings?
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Why don't we open
all up on the same night?
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I'll hold worker's
meeting on Zoom every morning.
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Wow! And do a thousand.
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So we were 10 days into
that and churches were excited.
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Man, we had the first
250 or 300 meetings going
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and ten days in
it all gets shut down
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and everybody gets sent home.
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Springs of 2020... and the
churches are impacted. Yep.
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And some
lingered to the bitter end
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till the state said "Go home.
" And some had baptized a few
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already 10 days in. Oh wow! BUT
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it's OK. We've been biding our
time and we're kicking that ball
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down the field again
right now. But it wiped out
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our most ambitious
project ever... COVID.
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It just shut us down. Um-hmm.
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Yeah. But it
didn't shut VOP down!
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Oh no, no, no. So
then what did you do?
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That obviously is like "Whoa!
" A big wrench so to speak.
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So what did you do to re-group?
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A couple of
things... a couple of things.
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And I almost don't dare
say one of them out loud.
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But we thought:
"This isn't over. "
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Everybody was
excited. We're going to kick
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the ball down the field again.
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And we're doing that this
year because it seems to be now.
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But what if we can't have
live meetings the way we have?
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Maybe this is a new
normal for quite a while.
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Some pandemics
last a decade. Um-hmm.
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So we've been working
on a virtual platform...
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a virtual evangelistic platform.
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Smart. Yeah. And you know
"Why don't you just use Zoom,
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Shawn? " Well Zoom
doesn't behave like a church.
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Doesn't have
greeters in the lobby.
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So you can present; there's
a greeter or somebody who can
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talk to you and pray with you.
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When you have an altar
call people can actually go
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into one of the
breakout rooms with one person
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and pray together.
Yes! And the nice thing
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I think about this
is I've been watching.
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If you have an
unpopular opinion these days,
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you're gone. So I
don't want to rely on Zoom
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or Facebook or any of those
so we're just gonna own one.
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We're just building
one that we can use.
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Oh, I love that!
Wow! That's great.
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So you can't kick us off. Yep,
can't kick us off. Really good.
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Yeah. I get threatened to
be kicked out all the time...
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That happens all the time.
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I've been kicked
out of great places.
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You know, praise the Lord
for that, though. For people
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you know, your team. You're able
to tap into that skill level
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to do that. Um-hmm.
That's really smart.
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Praise the Lord. Yeah.
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So I'm noticing here on your...
You're not wearing a tie.
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Mr. Danny you know...
he doesn't wear a tie.
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He wore a tie for the wedding.
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That was... I had no choice!
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Documentable. I had no choice.
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So Jean, your husband's
wearing a logo on his T-shirt.
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I never do that. You don't? OK.
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It says Authentic. That's
our new program at the VOP.
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And people can watch
it right here on 3ABN.
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So it's your new baby...
you should talk about it.
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This is mine? Yeah!
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I... I don't know...
We had that talk radio
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that went for an hour.
It was going OK - um-hmm -
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but I've had this burden.
I know where I come from.
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I still call myself
a recovering heathen.
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That's what I am:
a recovering heathen.
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I'm saved; I'm good with Jesus
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but I'm still in recovery
- wow - for sure. We all are!
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Yeah... it's a process.
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What do the people that
I left from the old life
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think about every
day? Where do they dwell?
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And it's all the big,
deep existential questions.
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What do all human
beings in all generations
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and all cultures hold in common?
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Why am I here?
What's the meaning of life?
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Hmm! Is there
anything out there?
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Are the philosophers right at
the university I'm studying at?
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That when I die
that's it? Lights out?
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There was no purpose to this?
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So we're doing the
deep existential questions.
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But the branding isn't deep
existential. It's not Plato.
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And it's like
OK... I said to the team:
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"This has to... We're going
to deal with these questions
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that everybody struggles with
in the quiet of the night. "
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Why do I hurt?
Why do I... Right.
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We're going to talk about that.
My background was in political
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science and
philosophy and economics.
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Yeah, OK. I thought: "No, I
had to read all those books.
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May as well use them.
They're all reading them
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and so let's talk about it. "
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Let's talk about
what Plato actually said.
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Let's talk about what
Immanuel Kant actually said.
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But let's do it in
street language. Let's not
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make this a
seminar at the college
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because that's boring. Right.
And so the branding is for
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what I call "Joe Six-Pack. "
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"I've done work;
I'm goin' home. "
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And so I kept... The
logo... We kept workin' on that
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for a little bit. But let me
give you the flavor of the show.
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Right? Sounds good. Can
we run the Authentic opener?
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Yeah. I think that's video #1.
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OK. Let's go to
that roll right now.
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Love that program!
That'll grab your attention.
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It will. Such a great opener!
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We air it, of course,
here on 3ABN. Yes we do!
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5:30 PM Central every
Saturday afternoon. Amen.
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I'm so grateful for
the partnership with VOP.
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But tell us about the response
that you're getting to this
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program. We get response here
at 3ABN. Oh yeah, good response.
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Tell us about the
response you're getting.
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It's... So far we got
a couple of responses.
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One was: All
right... the saints:
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"Where's your tie? "
OK, I get it... I get it.
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I've always hated ties!
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I finally... It's
not new. No. All right.
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But you did wear one
for your daughter's wedding.
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For the wedding?
Yeah, OK: we wore one.
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But you know what is it
Ezekiel says? That God condemns
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anything that makes a man sweat.
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And a tie does?
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But the responses,
though, have been good?
00:14:06.41\00:14:07.84
It's doing exactly
what we prayed it would do.
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And I'm getting letters...
I got a letter the other day
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from... Oh, she's out East.
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I won't say her name...
I'll protect her. But it's like:
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"All right. You said the
following about Richard Dawkins
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and Douglas Adams. I
think you got it wrong. "
00:14:24.93\00:14:26.39
And I checked... I got
one of the things wrong.
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She was completely right.
So I wrote her and I said:
00:14:28.73\00:14:30.30
"I was wrong. "
And then she said: "But
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OK, this is different
than most Christian programming
00:14:33.17\00:14:35.87
I listen to. " She
is... She thinks she is
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an atheist. She's not. Wow!
00:14:38.47\00:14:40.74
She said: "This is different
and I listen every week.
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This is my go-to. " And she
is starting to write a letter
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every month. And
that's starting to happen.
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It's starting to
trickle in from everywhere.
00:14:49.68\00:14:51.05
It's like: "Hey, this is
different and you're talking
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about what I worry about. "
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Yeah. "And you
speak our language. "
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Yeah, unfortunately I do. That's
kind of a double-edged sword.
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I do speak their
language. I'm an ex-heathen.
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I'm a recovering heathen.
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And I know what
they're learning in college.
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I know what they're reading.
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I thought: "Let's talk about
it. " And then I'll dare them
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to read the Bible because
I say: "You know there's more
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in here than where
you've been drinking. "
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The show always ends:
"Come on, man, just read it.
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Quit reading books
about it; just read it. "
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Just read it. So again, some
of the topics that you cover?
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Oh my goodness!
What have we done?
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We do a lot of
philosophy, a lot of history.
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So recently we
talked about Ayn Rand
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and her influence on America
and philosophy in politics
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and why she died as
miserable as she did
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and what she had right
and what she had wrong.
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You can always tell people
somebody did something right.
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They're not
wrong about everything.
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Right? They're not
wrong about everything!
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That's true
absolutely. Her big thing was
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"I own me... you don't own me. "
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OK, there's some truth to
that. I believe God owns me.
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But I also at the same time
I don't believe I own you guys.
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I don't get to run your life.
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So she's right about
that. What's she wrong about?
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Just about everything
else... but we unpack that.
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And I was an Ayn Rand
disciple as a young man.
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I used to go to the club
meetings and all that stuff.
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Really? So I knew this stuff.
00:16:04.16\00:16:05.73
So we did that and
people write in and say: "Man,
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I knew something bothered
me there. I knew there was
00:16:08.03\00:16:09.76
a dead end there
somewhere. " I said: "Yeah, now
00:16:09.96\00:16:11.30
watch: here's
where you're going to
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find what I was
talking about today. "
00:16:13.00\00:16:15.00
Right. Wow!
Yeah. So that one and
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we do Immanuel Kant
and the early apologists.
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We do a lot of history and
then we do some current events.
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I just did a show
that's comin' out soon on 3ABN.
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Thank you. On flat earth theory.
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Why do people get all bonkers
on the earth has gotta be flat?
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'Cause I hear all kinds of
can I say "wack-a-doodle. "
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I hear all kinds of
"wack-a-doodles" running around.
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And so we talk about that.
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Why do we do this as Christians?
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And here's... I'm not really
talking to the Christians.
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Right. So why do we do
this? The gospel's profound
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enough that you don't have to
come up with weird to sell it.
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And then when I'm doing
that I tell the story of the
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demon-possessed girl
following Paul: "Hey!
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Servant Lord; servant Lord.
" This is what you're dealing
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when you do the weird stuff.
Stop doing the weird stuff...
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this is profound enough.
Not really for the saints.
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The audience goes: "Oh, they
know they're a little weird.
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What else is this guy
going to admit? " Right!
00:17:01.68\00:17:03.35
Hmm. And they listen.
00:17:03.55\00:17:05.05
Amen. Well thank you
for not being afraid.
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Oh, I'm pretty afraid.
00:17:07.72\00:17:09.12
No... I mean you know
because sometimes people
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may want to steer clear of that.
00:17:11.36\00:17:12.69
Well you know, it's just kind of
comfortable. Let's just kind of
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hit the main topics of
Christianity and that's it.
00:17:14.20\00:17:16.80
Yeah, thank you
for that. That's great.
00:17:17.00\00:17:18.80
Yeah, we've received a
good response here at 3ABN.
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Absolutely. It's a
great niche because
00:17:20.97\00:17:23.04
we need to reach the secular
minds. We do. We need to reach
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the atheists; we need
to reach the intellectuals,
00:17:25.81\00:17:27.74
the philosophers.
That's really important.
00:17:27.94\00:17:29.28
So... switching gears
I'm going to Jean here.
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Discovery Mountain is
an incredible radio series.
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I just want to say
my nephews watch it
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and we get to comparing notes.
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They live in North
Carolina and they love it.
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They say: "This is just
like Adventures in Odyssey. "
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They love the program!
So tell us: what was the
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impetus behind the
program? And tell us about
00:17:49.80\00:17:51.80
what the series is like. OK.
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Well, Discovery Mountain is
an audio adventure for families
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is what we like to call it.
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So it started about
five-ish years ago in 2017.
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So... I can't believe it
sometimes that this new baby
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is now over 5 years old.
00:18:06.25\00:18:07.85
But we enjoy it. It's a
half-hour weekly program,
00:18:08.05\00:18:12.52
audio program, and
it's on 3ABN Radio.
00:18:12.72\00:18:14.82
Can get it right
here too. Oh yes.
00:18:15.02\00:18:16.36
So what was the impetus for it?
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Well, when we joined
the Voice of Prophecy
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you know it started as a radio
ministry all those years ago.
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And my kids have grown up lis-
tening to Adventures in Odyssey.
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And there wasn't a lot
of other material out there
00:18:29.24\00:18:33.41
similar to Odyssey,
and I have to admit I even
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had a few problems with a
few of the things in Odyssey.
00:18:36.38\00:18:38.51
And I thought: "You
know, we as a radio ministry
00:18:38.75\00:18:41.98
need to create an
audio program for kids. "
00:18:42.18\00:18:44.09
And I thought:
"We should create one
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like the kind that I wished
when my daughters were young. "
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What would I have wanted
my daughters to listen to.
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So that's where it started,
but really the core of it
00:18:51.39\00:18:54.13
was to fit into the
whole plan of evangelism
00:18:54.33\00:18:57.40
we have at Voice
of Prophecy - yes -
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which Shawn shared already.
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Everything we create is
not just to be interesting
00:19:00.84\00:19:03.77
and entertaining...
it's to fit into that plan.
00:19:03.97\00:19:07.48
So we very intentionally
built Discovery Mountain
00:19:07.68\00:19:10.11
in that way. Yeah. Um-hmm.
00:19:10.31\00:19:12.55
I love that. And
you have Blue Birdie,
00:19:12.75\00:19:14.92
Jake, and you know all
these characters that you
00:19:15.12\00:19:17.95
need to learn and identify with
00:19:18.15\00:19:20.02
and learn
character-building stories.
00:19:20.22\00:19:22.76
And the most
important character?
00:19:22.96\00:19:24.29
And the VERY MOST IMPORTANT
character? Chaplain Simon!
00:19:24.33\00:19:26.06
Sean voices his character.
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Twenty seasons...
I've been there four times.
00:19:28.36\00:19:31.33
He's overseas. He gets
sent overseas all the time.
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I know what's happening here.
00:19:34.14\00:19:35.47
I'm going to get written out.
00:19:35.50\00:19:36.84
Twenty season? Yes... seasons.
00:19:36.87\00:19:39.24
Incredible! Yes,
five years/20 seasons.
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So we have four
six-part story lines every year
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and we call those a season.
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And then in between
those full stories we have
00:19:48.75\00:19:50.89
new content every single week.
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So every week
there's something fresh.
00:19:52.95\00:19:54.99
And we can actually show your
viewers what it looks like...
00:19:55.19\00:19:57.53
what Discovery
Mountain looks like.
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You know, it's an audio program.
We felt it was important to
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create a beautiful
visual aspect of it, too.
00:20:01.40\00:20:05.23
Something we launched recently
00:20:05.43\00:20:08.27
was the Discovery
Mountain Club as well.
00:20:08.47\00:20:11.41
And... What's that? Yeah...
00:20:11.61\00:20:13.04
So that is a membership
portion of the program.
00:20:13.44\00:20:17.81
And the reason we did that
was we wanted the main program
00:20:18.01\00:20:21.18
to be completely free for anyone
00:20:21.38\00:20:23.65
who would ever
want to listen to it.
00:20:23.85\00:20:25.19
We wanted it to
stay evangelistic
00:20:25.22\00:20:26.96
so there was never someone who
couldn't listen because of...
00:20:27.16\00:20:29.12
because they had
to pay for it. Yeah.
00:20:29.32\00:20:32.03
Sure. Oh, that's great!
Yeah. So in order to continue to
00:20:32.23\00:20:35.03
keep that completely free
and accessible to everyone
00:20:35.23\00:20:37.73
we created some
member-based content.
00:20:37.93\00:20:40.44
And we're doing
some fun stuff in there.
00:20:40.64\00:20:43.20
We have Jake as the
main character. Yes.
00:20:43.41\00:20:45.67
And he's also our employee Ruben
that Shawn referenced earlier.
00:20:45.87\00:20:49.08
He's the voice of Jake.
00:20:49.28\00:20:50.61
So you use your employees
to help let's say design stuff
00:20:51.55\00:20:54.15
but also voice
stuff. Oh absolutely!
00:20:54.35\00:20:56.28
Yeah... we work
them way past labor laws.
00:20:56.48\00:20:59.72
If you work at VOP,
you're going to get asked to do
00:20:59.92\00:21:02.36
a voice on Discovery Mountain.
00:21:02.56\00:21:04.03
And they can be one of the
characters. Yeah absolutely!
00:21:04.23\00:21:06.70
Yeah. Can you tell us
a little more then? Yes.
00:21:06.90\00:21:08.23
So within the club, there are
like five programs right now.
00:21:08.40\00:21:11.40
Hopefully more in the future
00:21:11.60\00:21:12.93
that are unique
to the club members.
00:21:13.00\00:21:14.94
So we have Jake
has a podcast as Jake.
00:21:15.14\00:21:17.97
Then we have
bedtime Bible stories...
00:21:18.17\00:21:20.24
just telling Bible
stories that are very calm
00:21:20.44\00:21:22.41
with very soothing music. Ohh...
00:21:22.61\00:21:23.95
For parents, of
course, of younger ones
00:21:23.98\00:21:26.01
to help soothe them to
sleep and things like that.
00:21:26.21\00:21:29.38
Again it just
fits the whole reason
00:21:29.78\00:21:33.49
for Discovery Mountain, keeping
the main program evangelistic.
00:21:33.69\00:21:36.42
And then we created a VBS as
well to kind of complete that...
00:21:36.83\00:21:40.66
Vacation Bible School!
Yeah. Discover Mountain VBS.
00:21:40.86\00:21:42.90
To kind of finish that
cycle you know, so then...
00:21:43.10\00:21:47.07
The idea is the
person in the local church
00:21:47.27\00:21:49.90
listens to the program,
becomes familiar with it.
00:21:50.11\00:21:52.14
They invite their friends
and family to listen with them.
00:21:52.34\00:21:54.48
And then the local
church would host an event.
00:21:54.68\00:21:57.35
Ideally Discovery Mountain
VBS or any family-oriented event
00:21:57.55\00:22:00.65
and then they invite people
to come to church with them.
00:22:00.85\00:22:02.98
Oh wow! And so...
And it looks beautiful
00:22:03.18\00:22:05.99
if you want to show the photo
of what the VBS looks like.
00:22:06.19\00:22:09.22
It's visually very
beautiful. Oh yeah!
00:22:09.42\00:22:11.53
RESCUED. Yeah, so it's just...
That's how... that's how this
00:22:11.73\00:22:15.93
kids ministry - this kids
program - fits into everything
00:22:16.13\00:22:19.47
we're doing at VOP.
00:22:19.67\00:22:21.24
That's great. So we're
going to be talking about
00:22:21.44\00:22:23.64
the website multiple
times throughout the program.
00:22:23.84\00:22:25.64
We're already like 20 minutes in
already. So what's the website
00:22:25.84\00:22:28.04
people can go to get like
the VBS or sign up for the club?
00:22:28.24\00:22:30.88
Umm... discoverymountain.com
00:22:31.08\00:22:33.82
And then for anything
else VOP related it would be:
00:22:34.02\00:22:37.05
If you go to VOP.com can
you find Discovery Mountain
00:22:38.52\00:22:41.36
there? Oh yeah, you can
find everything we do there.
00:22:41.56\00:22:43.19
Resources. Yeah, um-hmm. Do
you have some video on demand
00:22:43.39\00:22:45.86
there or not at? Oh
yeah. No... Authentic is there.
00:22:46.06\00:22:48.66
I don't know if we
have the older stuff there,
00:22:48.86\00:22:50.33
but we put that
up there every week.
00:22:50.53\00:22:52.07
And yep... there's plenty to
watch, there's plenty to study.
00:22:52.27\00:22:55.07
There are free Bible courses
there for anybody. Just click
00:22:55.27\00:22:57.31
on the study tab.
What's the website again?
00:22:57.51\00:23:00.08
The website? I
just kicked the table.
00:23:00.28\00:23:01.88
Did everybody hear that?
00:23:02.08\00:23:03.88
And the crew
warned me not to do this.
00:23:04.28\00:23:06.28
You're good.
00:23:06.48\00:23:07.82
What's the website again?
00:23:07.98\00:23:09.32
VOP.com or voiceofprophecy.com
00:23:09.45\00:23:12.12
OK... both work. Both
work. Yeah, both work.
00:23:12.32\00:23:14.26
That's great. So I
want to ask you about this
00:23:14.46\00:23:15.82
Discovery Mountain.
We're talking about our nephews
00:23:16.02\00:23:17.53
and stuff. Yep. So let's say
you've got someone that says:
00:23:17.73\00:23:20.30
"You know, I'm 100 yrs. old. "
00:23:20.50\00:23:22.36
We've got someone
that's like over 100.
00:23:22.56\00:23:24.00
Can they sign up? Or
it's just for kids like...
00:23:24.20\00:23:25.93
Oh no! It's for anyone.
00:23:26.13\00:23:27.47
Are you serious? Even me at 46?
00:23:27.50\00:23:28.84
Absolutely. OK.. I can sign up.
00:23:29.00\00:23:31.47
That's awesome; that's good.
00:23:31.67\00:23:33.17
You know, what I love when I
get to get out and meet people
00:23:33.38\00:23:36.44
is people who tell me they
listen to Discovery Mountain
00:23:36.64\00:23:38.38
from all age groups because
the stories are timeless.
00:23:38.58\00:23:40.98
Jesus told stories and they can
be appealing to all of us. Yeah.
00:23:41.18\00:23:44.89
Tell us about
some of the response.
00:23:45.39\00:23:46.72
I know we talked about
response with Authentic
00:23:46.92\00:23:48.76
but tell us about
response from Discovery Mountain
00:23:48.96\00:23:50.89
from kids or adults
or how are they impacted
00:23:51.09\00:23:54.06
by the series? I
have the BEST mail
00:23:54.26\00:23:56.50
because we get
cards and colored pictures
00:23:56.70\00:23:59.47
from kids and families
listening but also teachers.
00:23:59.67\00:24:02.74
Teachers really enjoy using the
programs in their classrooms.
00:24:02.94\00:24:06.47
My favorite story, which I
would love to tell you in detail
00:24:06.68\00:24:09.24
but I'll just mention to
you, is a man named Easy.
00:24:09.44\00:24:13.25
Oh! And he's 35.
He's visually impaired.
00:24:13.45\00:24:15.58
He was born blind
and he connected with us
00:24:15.78\00:24:18.02
when another podcast that high-
lights different audio programs
00:24:18.22\00:24:21.72
interviewed us and Easy
heard about Discovery Mountain.
00:24:21.92\00:24:24.59
And he fell in love with it
00:24:24.99\00:24:27.56
and started
connecting with us online.
00:24:27.76\00:24:29.50
And then he asked if he
could audition to be a voice
00:24:29.70\00:24:32.60
in the program.
We said: "Of course!
00:24:32.80\00:24:34.20
Of course you can. "
Oh! And so he came out.
00:24:34.40\00:24:36.30
He did a voice; he did great.
00:24:36.50\00:24:37.84
And I actually wrote a
whole character for him.
00:24:37.91\00:24:39.84
So now we have
Chris in Discover Mountain
00:24:40.04\00:24:42.04
who's visually
impaired in the program
00:24:42.24\00:24:43.71
and Easy voices him for us.
00:24:44.11\00:24:45.98
Isn't that special!
00:24:46.18\00:24:48.55
That really is.
We all just love Easy
00:24:48.75\00:24:50.85
and it's neat to
actually connect with someone
00:24:51.05\00:24:53.56
who has been
impacted by the ministry.
00:24:53.76\00:24:56.12
Praise the Lord! So
who writes the scripts?
00:24:56.32\00:24:57.86
I... I've done 90% of them.
00:24:58.26\00:25:01.56
You know how
hard your wife works
00:25:02.43\00:25:05.33
'cause that's a lot of
work! A lot of work to put that
00:25:05.53\00:25:07.64
together. And a
great job... a great job!
00:25:07.84\00:25:09.67
'Cause we've heard a lot of
stories in our household too.
00:25:09.87\00:25:11.94
You know, Discovery
Mountain. Yeah... great job!
00:25:12.14\00:25:14.08
Yeah. Great
lessons' great evangelism.
00:25:14.28\00:25:15.74
Because of the creativity
but yet great evangelism.
00:25:16.01\00:25:18.18
I love what you said.
I just want to remind you
00:25:18.38\00:25:19.95
one more time.
The website is VOP.com
00:25:20.15\00:25:23.95
We'll put that up for you.
00:25:24.15\00:25:26.05
There you can find all about
00:25:26.25\00:25:27.69
the ministry of
Voice of Prophecy.
00:25:27.89\00:25:29.22
You can check out
Discovery Mountain.
00:25:29.39\00:25:31.33
You can sign up. You can watch
the Authentic video series.
00:25:31.53\00:25:35.00
You can donate and
support the work and ministry
00:25:35.20\00:25:38.43
that they are
involved in right now.
00:25:38.63\00:25:40.00
We're switching back
to Pastor Shawn. And let's
00:25:40.20\00:25:42.07
talk about Discover Seminars.
Tell us what that's all about.
00:25:42.27\00:25:46.47
What are you doing with that?
Yeah, I started in ministry
00:25:46.68\00:25:50.28
holding six-week
evangelistic campaigns.
00:25:50.48\00:25:53.08
It's hard to believe
next year I think is my...
00:25:53.28\00:25:55.15
I'll have completed 30
years on the sawdust trail.
00:25:55.65\00:25:58.75
Wow! In ministry!
00:25:58.95\00:26:00.49
That is incredible. You
can see bags under my eyes.
00:26:00.69\00:26:03.22
No, you all look good.
00:26:03.43\00:26:04.76
Well it's a lot
of preservatives.
00:26:04.83\00:26:07.13
A little varnish every morning.
Vegetables... like vegetables.
00:26:08.56\00:26:10.63
Vegetables! They
shellac my face in the mornings.
00:26:10.83\00:26:14.54
No. So we've got like the
world's oldest and biggest
00:26:16.17\00:26:19.84
Bible school. That's
our primary outreach.
00:26:20.04\00:26:22.04
Then over here we've got... I do
6- week evangelistic campaigns.
00:26:22.24\00:26:25.01
But what's in
between? What could a church
00:26:25.21\00:26:26.85
invite a community to
that isn't a huge commitment?
00:26:27.05\00:26:30.69
Doesn't scare anybody...
church members or guests.
00:26:30.89\00:26:33.36
And Discover Seminar is
like 4 or 5 meetings maximum.
00:26:33.56\00:26:37.49
We create video that they can
be proud to show their friends.
00:26:37.69\00:26:40.90
They're not going to... You
know, sometimes we're scared.
00:26:41.06\00:26:42.86
Let's bring friends to church.
What are they going to see?
00:26:43.06\00:26:44.70
Right. Yeah. We put
a lot of effort into it
00:26:44.90\00:26:48.77
so it can compete with anything
on Netflix or History Channel
00:26:48.97\00:26:51.27
or all that kind of stuff. Umm.
00:26:51.47\00:26:52.81
But half an hour of documentary.
00:26:52.84\00:26:54.18
But that's not the
point. The point is next
00:26:54.31\00:26:55.84
that the local church leaders
lead a Bible study for 45 min.
00:26:56.04\00:26:59.28
to explore what
they just heard. Nice!
00:26:59.48\00:27:01.62
Then after 4 or 5 meetings
00:27:01.82\00:27:03.15
Jean and I will come
on camera and say: "Hey,
00:27:03.18\00:27:04.65
if you like what you studied
now it's the tip of the iceberg.
00:27:04.85\00:27:07.46
Wait till you see what
else these people study.
00:27:07.66\00:27:09.62
We're starting
Wednesday night. "
00:27:09.82\00:27:11.19
And so it opens a
Bible study in the church.
00:27:11.39\00:27:12.73
So we've done
about... We're working on #5?
00:27:13.09\00:27:15.66
Um-hmm. Right now:
Number 5. Yeah, it comes out
00:27:15.86\00:27:19.27
in April of 2022...
Spring of 2022. Wow!
00:27:19.47\00:27:21.84
Yeah. Exciting? So
what are some of the
00:27:22.04\00:27:24.01
documentaries? What
are some of them about?
00:27:24.21\00:27:25.67
And I think we have a couple
trailers for some of them.
00:27:25.87\00:27:27.58
I brought all of
them but we can't do that!
00:27:27.74\00:27:29.98
But the first one we did
was called Shadow Empire.
00:27:30.85\00:27:35.12
And we did the life
of Constantine the Great.
00:27:35.32\00:27:37.95
Where he came from. Born
to a virgin incidentally.
00:27:38.15\00:27:41.56
He parallels the life of
Jesus right up to a point.
00:27:41.76\00:27:44.03
It's uncanny how that works.
00:27:44.23\00:27:45.79
But then
when... What we focus on
00:27:46.19\00:27:48.56
is like the story
where Israel asks for a king.
00:27:48.76\00:27:51.53
God says: "This
isn't what I want for you
00:27:51.73\00:27:53.07
but I'll let you do it. "
00:27:53.10\00:27:54.44
And then Israel gets into
trouble: they asked for a king.
00:27:54.67\00:27:56.81
Well, Christianity did
exactly the same thing.
00:27:57.01\00:27:59.17
"We want a king"
'cause they couldn't handle
00:27:59.37\00:28:01.64
the disputes in No.
Africa and the Arian dispute.
00:28:01.84\00:28:04.18
And so: "Hey, maybe you
know, this emperor's friendly
00:28:04.58\00:28:07.85
so let's invite him in. "
00:28:08.05\00:28:09.38
We invited him in and it
never was the same again.
00:28:09.42\00:28:11.05
What we did in this
series was just say: "Hey,
00:28:11.45\00:28:13.42
have you ever had a funny
feeling something's wrong with
00:28:13.62\00:28:15.52
Western Christianity? "
00:28:15.72\00:28:17.06
And the whole world said:
"Yeah! We know there's something
00:28:17.13\00:28:18.86
wrong with it. " So instead
of arguing we confirm it.
00:28:19.06\00:28:21.06
"You're absolutely right.
Something went off the rails.
00:28:21.26\00:28:23.00
The Bible
predicted it would happen
00:28:23.20\00:28:24.57
and want to know
what else it says? "
00:28:24.77\00:28:27.44
Wow! And so you
agree with people.
00:28:28.30\00:28:30.04
You agree with people wherever
you can consistently do it.
00:28:30.24\00:28:32.14
"You're right...
something DID go wrong. "
00:28:32.34\00:28:33.98
Yeah. So that was the
first one: Shadow Empire.
00:28:34.18\00:28:36.08
We've done a bunch
since. Celtic Christianity.
00:28:36.28\00:28:38.08
What would happen?
A Pale Horse Rides.
00:28:38.28\00:28:40.32
What would happen
if Christianity grew up
00:28:40.52\00:28:42.58
in a bubble outside
of what Constantine did
00:28:42.78\00:28:44.65
out on an island somewhere?
What would that look like?
00:28:44.85\00:28:46.35
What if all
they had was a Bible?
00:28:46.55\00:28:48.02
What would they look
like? And we found out the Celts
00:28:48.22\00:28:50.46
were Sabbath keepers
and they even had rules for
00:28:50.66\00:28:52.63
identifying the
Spirit of Prophecy.
00:28:52.83\00:28:54.83
We went on location.
Found their old homes
00:28:55.03\00:28:57.80
and scriptoriums
out on the islands.
00:28:58.00\00:28:59.83
Wow! And so we've done
00:29:00.04\00:29:03.37
then one on the second coming,
and the most recent one we did
00:29:03.57\00:29:05.41
American in Bible Prophecy.
00:29:05.61\00:29:06.94
We ran that for two
years because with the pandemic
00:29:07.34\00:29:09.34
and the election that followed
all the churches were packed.
00:29:09.54\00:29:12.51
The response has been...
00:29:12.71\00:29:15.38
Let's... Let's do Final Empire.
I think that's #4. Final Empire.
00:29:15.58\00:29:19.49
This is the one on
America in prophecy.
00:29:19.69\00:29:21.26
Get the look and feel
of what these look like.
00:29:21.46\00:29:22.79
OK... let's go
to that right now.
00:29:22.82\00:29:24.16
The United States is the
greatest nation that has ever
00:29:34.60\00:29:37.47
existed in the
history of the world,
00:29:37.67\00:29:39.17
but the rise of the
Republic was no accident.
00:29:39.84\00:29:42.38
It was formed out of
hundreds of specific events
00:29:43.45\00:29:45.95
that started over 3,000 years
00:29:46.35\00:29:48.92
before the creation
of our Constitution.
00:29:49.12\00:29:51.25
With such calculated history
00:29:52.85\00:29:54.52
could the birth of this nation
00:29:54.72\00:29:56.06
be just coincidence?
00:29:56.22\00:29:57.59
Or did the hand of God
00:29:57.79\00:29:59.83
direct the
formation of the new world?
00:30:00.03\00:30:01.96
Explore the annals of history
and discover the tapestry
00:30:04.63\00:30:07.80
of events woven together to
construct a brand new empire.
00:30:08.00\00:30:11.87
Uncover the true
reason Columbus set sail
00:30:13.31\00:30:17.01
into uncharted waters.
00:30:17.21\00:30:18.65
How the fall of
Constantinople set the stage
00:30:19.25\00:30:22.22
for the creation of our
nation hundreds of years
00:30:22.42\00:30:24.92
before its inception.
00:30:25.12\00:30:26.65
See the Bible's
warnings for our nation today.
00:30:28.06\00:30:31.33
As we follow the
events that shaped America
00:30:31.89\00:30:34.63
you will see the
evidence that we are a country
00:30:34.83\00:30:36.90
founded on the
principles of religious liberty
00:30:37.10\00:30:39.30
and hear what we need to do
to maintain our freedom today.
00:30:39.60\00:30:44.01
That's
incredible! The cinematography
00:30:55.42\00:30:58.25
and the trailer. That's amazing!
00:30:58.45\00:31:00.12
So if churches or individuals
or homes want to connect
00:31:00.32\00:31:04.39
and say: "I want a study group;"
"I want to do this" - right -
00:31:04.59\00:31:06.90
how do they do that?
You have to do it that way.
00:31:07.10\00:31:08.96
These are designed so that
people have to meet people.
00:31:09.16\00:31:11.73
There's no other
way to do this event.
00:31:12.30\00:31:13.77
You're going to have to
invite people to your home
00:31:13.97\00:31:15.34
or your church. VOP.com
00:31:15.54\00:31:16.87
and you can find those
or DiscoveryCenters.com
00:31:17.07\00:31:19.81
That's where our resources
for churches that we're
00:31:20.01\00:31:22.54
partnering with like
the 1,000 find this stuff.
00:31:22.74\00:31:25.98
But it is an option for
people to run in their home
00:31:26.18\00:31:28.45
with a small group. So
the church event is one option
00:31:28.65\00:31:32.35
and the small group in
your home is a great option too.
00:31:32.55\00:31:34.52
And do you pay for
that? Do the churches pay
00:31:34.92\00:31:36.76
to connect with
this and they reach out?
00:31:36.96\00:31:38.96
Minimally. Perfect. Like mini-
mally. We make it affordable.
00:31:39.16\00:31:42.43
We do raise our own
funds so I can't give it away
00:31:42.63\00:31:45.27
for free or I would. I
would totally give it away.
00:31:45.47\00:31:47.57
No, but it costs
money to do this. It does!
00:31:47.77\00:31:49.57
To do it quality. And we
want it to look like something
00:31:49.77\00:31:52.81
you'd be proud to
bring your friends to.
00:31:53.01\00:31:54.68
You don't have to be scared
of how goofy it's gonna be.
00:31:54.88\00:31:57.28
Correct. I mean
I'm goofy, but the show
00:31:57.48\00:31:59.21
is not too goofy.
Now we're gearing up for
00:31:59.41\00:32:02.38
probably my favorite of all
time The Serpentine Prophecy
00:32:02.58\00:32:05.92
which releases in 2022. Umm!
00:32:06.12\00:32:08.09
Tell us about that.
So what's that about?
00:32:08.29\00:32:09.62
Well, every time
we go through a crisis
00:32:09.72\00:32:11.06
whether it is I, II World War,
00:32:11.19\00:32:13.36
the influenza epidemic,
00:32:13.56\00:32:16.13
the Great
Depression, Fukushima in Japan
00:32:16.33\00:32:19.07
interest in spiritualism
goes through the roof.
00:32:19.27\00:32:21.37
One in six Americans
think the dead talk to them.
00:32:21.57\00:32:23.54
One in six... and they've
heard the dead talk to them.
00:32:23.74\00:32:25.74
Seriously? One in six.
00:32:25.94\00:32:27.28
So it's gone through the roof
and we know the time is right.
00:32:27.31\00:32:29.88
But we're going to tell a story
that few people have ever heard.
00:32:30.08\00:32:32.95
Sometimes we see series
on spiritualism and we start
00:32:33.15\00:32:35.32
with the Fox sisters. Great
story, but everybody starts
00:32:35.52\00:32:37.55
with the Fox sisters. I've gone
digging through primary sources
00:32:37.75\00:32:40.62
all the way back to
ancient Egypt and before that
00:32:40.82\00:32:42.89
and figured out
where Plato got his ideas.
00:32:43.09\00:32:46.49
And we're going to tell the
story from the very beginning
00:32:46.70\00:32:49.63
and show a thread that runs
through every world religion
00:32:49.83\00:32:52.17
outside of the Abrahamic
religions... every single one.
00:32:52.37\00:32:54.97
And then we're
going to end the series
00:32:55.17\00:32:57.11
I spend the night in
the most haunted bedroom
00:32:57.31\00:33:00.61
in America, and we have
an over-night Bible study
00:33:00.81\00:33:04.31
on "Can the dead
speak to me? " in that room.
00:33:04.51\00:33:06.45
Oh wow! And I won't
tell you whether or not
00:33:06.65\00:33:08.78
something happened. People
will have watch the series.
00:33:08.98\00:33:11.25
I brought the trailer for this.
00:33:11.65\00:33:13.29
I brought the trailer for
this. Number 5: The Serpentine
00:33:13.49\00:33:16.02
Prophecy this is called.
This one I'm so excited...
00:33:16.22\00:33:18.56
I'm pumped up! All right.
Let's go to that roll right now.
00:33:18.76\00:33:21.36
A disturbing thread
tying the present to the past.
00:33:32.64\00:33:36.78
Thing that move
behind the shadows.
00:33:50.36\00:33:52.89
Are there dark influences
00:33:59.73\00:34:01.70
that have been
quietly driving us
00:34:08.08\00:34:10.25
from the dawn of civilization?
00:34:10.45\00:34:12.38
The story you
weren't supposed to hear.
00:34:23.89\00:34:26.49
That is incredible. Wow!
It is SO needed - oh yes!
00:34:39.31\00:34:44.05
especially in these last
days of earth's history. Um-hmm.
00:34:44.25\00:34:45.75
There is so much
spiritualism that is rampant.
00:34:45.95\00:34:47.78
There is so much
confusion about what's happening
00:34:47.98\00:34:50.39
so praise the Lord that
you all are willing to tackle
00:34:50.59\00:34:52.59
these topics and
bring that to people so that
00:34:52.79\00:34:55.56
churches and groups
can share it with people.
00:34:55.76\00:34:59.13
Praise the Lord! That's in-
credible! This one is really...
00:34:59.33\00:35:01.03
I'm really pumped about this
one. This one... We're going to
00:35:01.23\00:35:04.17
just tell a story, and
churches can be comfortable.
00:35:04.37\00:35:06.20
We are just going to bring
people to the point where they
00:35:06.40\00:35:07.90
start to question themselves.
And all of these are designed
00:35:08.10\00:35:10.34
that way. Not to tell
anybody they're wrong...
00:35:10.54\00:35:12.27
just to raise just
enough that people start saying
00:35:12.47\00:35:15.71
"Wait a minute...
what if I'm wrong? "
00:35:15.91\00:35:17.25
And that's the best
place for people to be.
00:35:17.28\00:35:18.88
You can't badger people
into the kingdom of God.
00:35:19.08\00:35:21.08
You can't argue them in.
00:35:21.28\00:35:22.72
But if they start to
question their own assumptions
00:35:23.12\00:35:25.12
then you can have a Bible study.
00:35:25.32\00:35:26.76
Umm! And that's what
these are designed to start.
00:35:26.96\00:35:29.32
So have you received
response then on some of these
00:35:29.52\00:35:31.96
documentaries? It's
been going remarkably well.
00:35:32.16\00:35:34.80
Shadow Empire... I just
heard from the Bixby's up in...
00:35:35.13\00:35:39.63
I met them this past summer.
00:35:39.83\00:35:41.37
They... He had been in Christian
Science for a little bit
00:35:41.57\00:35:45.17
and he was a
science major and so on.
00:35:45.37\00:35:47.11
He said: "Shadow
Empire, man, that got me.
00:35:47.31\00:35:49.74
It started the Bible
study. We started studying
00:35:49.94\00:35:51.55
and six months
later... " He actually...
00:35:51.75\00:35:53.42
Hey guys: the shoes you gave
me I'm wearing them right now.
00:35:53.62\00:35:56.18
If you're watching,
the shoes you gave me
00:35:56.38\00:35:58.95
I've got 'em on right now.
00:35:59.15\00:36:00.49
I love these shoes.
00:36:00.69\00:36:02.02
But yeah, and for Final
Empire on American prophecy
00:36:02.06\00:36:05.09
I heard from a West
Point graduate recently
00:36:05.29\00:36:07.03
saying: "This is
astonishing. " West Point? Yeah.
00:36:07.23\00:36:09.33
Wow! See, we raise
stories. In every one of these
00:36:09.53\00:36:12.83
I guarantee there's
going to be something
00:36:13.03\00:36:14.80
that you've never heard. Right.
00:36:15.00\00:36:16.34
I can almost guarantee it.
00:36:16.40\00:36:17.74
I spend years writing
them to make sure of that.
00:36:17.91\00:36:20.51
And there are components
like why did Columbus really
00:36:20.91\00:36:23.41
cross the sea? Had nothing
to do with the earth being flat.
00:36:23.61\00:36:26.75
Nobody's ever
believed the earth was flat.
00:36:26.95\00:36:28.45
We've known the
circumference of the earth since
00:36:28.65\00:36:30.89
Eratosthenes,
400-500 BC. We've known.
00:36:31.09\00:36:34.72
No, no, no... he
writes in his journal
00:36:34.92\00:36:37.03
I read Columbus' journals:
"The Lord is sending me over
00:36:37.23\00:36:40.13
this way to hasten
the second coming. "
00:36:40.33\00:36:43.03
He thought to go get armies
in Asia to help kick the Muslims
00:36:43.23\00:36:46.57
out of Jerusalem
so Jesus could come.
00:36:46.77\00:36:48.34
But he kept writing in
his journal: "I'm being sent;
00:36:48.54\00:36:50.54
I'm being sent; I
can't resist this.
00:36:50.74\00:36:52.67
Somehow this is going to
hasten the second coming. "
00:36:52.87\00:36:54.94
What does he do? Open up the
earth where the woman can flee.
00:36:55.14\00:36:58.98
Wow! That is amazing!
Yeah... so that's in there.
00:36:59.18\00:37:01.28
I mean we just find stuff
that... This stuff used to be
00:37:01.48\00:37:04.25
taught. In the 19th century -
yes - Christians knew this stuff
00:37:04.45\00:37:07.46
and we've forgotten it.
00:37:07.66\00:37:08.99
So I want to go back to
something you just said.
00:37:09.16\00:37:10.76
I know you want to talk
about the Bible study aspect too
00:37:10.96\00:37:12.79
of Voice of Prophecy,
but you said you spend years.
00:37:12.99\00:37:15.46
I caught that... years. Wow!
Years researching and writing
00:37:15.66\00:37:18.90
this. Yeah. Some of
them are the product
00:37:19.10\00:37:20.80
So this is your passion. I mean
you're passionate about this.
00:37:21.00\00:37:22.70
You're passionate
about accuracy, too. Um-hmm.
00:37:22.90\00:37:24.91
I can testify to the
books on his bookcases
00:37:25.11\00:37:29.28
in his home office
and his VOP office.
00:37:29.48\00:37:31.81
I mean there's a lot... a
lot of research that goes into
00:37:32.01\00:37:35.55
what is created.
00:37:35.75\00:37:37.35
I hated history right up
until I became a Christian.
00:37:37.55\00:37:40.12
Really? What's
the point? You know?
00:37:40.32\00:37:41.86
When did you become a
Christian? How old were you
00:37:42.06\00:37:43.39
when you became a Christian?
Twenty? You were 20... I was 21.
00:37:43.43\00:37:46.26
You were like 22.
00:37:46.46\00:37:47.80
Way back when before
the world was in color.
00:37:47.86\00:37:50.60
All right. I think I
was back there with you.
00:37:51.30\00:37:52.70
So you said then
you hated history?
00:37:52.90\00:37:55.30
Well yeah... what's
the point of history class?
00:37:55.50\00:37:57.14
I had to take Canadian history
and sorry fellow Canadians
00:37:57.34\00:38:00.64
it's the most
boring history on earth.
00:38:00.84\00:38:02.18
You're too polite...
nothing ever happens.
00:38:02.24\00:38:03.81
Be nice. We love you our
viewers and listeners in Canada.
00:38:04.01\00:38:07.95
Oh, I'm allowed to say
that. I'm allowed to say that.
00:38:08.15\00:38:10.99
I... Why are you
passionate about this?
00:38:11.79\00:38:13.92
Because suddenly it doesn't mat
ter who wrote the history book.
00:38:14.12\00:38:16.39
Once you see
God's prophetic plan
00:38:16.59\00:38:18.99
it doesn't matter
who the characters are.
00:38:19.19\00:38:21.13
God, without violating
their free will is nudging them
00:38:21.33\00:38:23.63
in the right direction. I
don't care if it's a Roman
00:38:23.83\00:38:25.77
senator... I
don't care who it is.
00:38:25.97\00:38:27.30
And suddenly I found out
this three angels' message
00:38:27.34\00:38:29.80
that we teach and believe
00:38:30.01\00:38:31.34
you can't hit the bottom of it.
00:38:31.37\00:38:32.71
Every book I've read,
every primary source...
00:38:32.81\00:38:35.64
It doesn't matter if it's a
thousand years before Christ
00:38:35.84\00:38:37.81
and he's living in Egypt
somehow they're all agreeing
00:38:38.01\00:38:40.28
with this and showing
that God has been nudging this
00:38:40.48\00:38:42.48
in the right
direction all along.
00:38:42.68\00:38:44.02
Yeah. So I'm addicted now.
00:38:44.05\00:38:45.85
What am I in there? I
sleep four hours a night.
00:38:46.05\00:38:48.82
I just can't stop
reading this stuff.
00:38:49.02\00:38:50.39
So he's probably
lost count of his books!
00:38:50.59\00:38:52.39
Wow! That's incredible.
That's a bit of a problem.
00:38:53.53\00:38:55.16
I don't know if
there's a book support group
00:38:55.36\00:38:57.00
but I probably could use one.
00:38:57.20\00:38:58.70
But you know what?
God's taken that passion
00:38:59.10\00:39:00.70
and that drive and that energy
00:39:00.90\00:39:02.87
and God's using it to reach
people that would otherwise
00:39:03.07\00:39:05.87
never be reached with
the gospel so thank you.
00:39:06.07\00:39:08.01
That's really powerful.
00:39:08.21\00:39:09.68
I want to skip around
here just a moment. OK.
00:39:09.88\00:39:11.45
We're going out of
order a little bit. That's OK.
00:39:11.65\00:39:13.68
But Jean, I want to talk...
I know Voice of Prophecy is
00:39:13.88\00:39:15.22
an evangelistic ministry clearly
00:39:15.25\00:39:16.72
but talk to us about
Rescue Home for Little Girls.
00:39:16.92\00:39:20.02
That's incredible... and
your humanitarian outreach. Wow!
00:39:20.22\00:39:22.72
Tell us about that.
Yeah, the humanitarian element
00:39:22.92\00:39:25.99
of ministry: I mean
that's how Jesus taught us
00:39:26.19\00:39:29.16
to care for
others and to preach.
00:39:29.36\00:39:31.77
And we take that
very seriously at VOP
00:39:31.97\00:39:33.80
and a project that's
very close to my heart
00:39:34.00\00:39:36.91
is called Azadi Home.
And Azadi means freedom.
00:39:37.11\00:39:40.58
And it's a rescue
home in Bangalore, India,
00:39:40.78\00:39:43.48
where women and girls really
00:39:43.68\00:39:46.75
who have been rescued
from sex trafficking -
00:39:46.95\00:39:49.45
oh wow - have a chance
to live and rehabilitate.
00:39:49.65\00:39:51.85
So this became a
project of Voice of Prophecy
00:39:52.05\00:39:55.46
when in I think it was 2015
00:39:55.66\00:39:58.39
I was in India with our daugh-
ters meeting our sponsor child.
00:39:58.59\00:40:01.16
Our sponsor daughter/sister.
00:40:01.36\00:40:03.13
And we met a woman named
Anita right there in Bangalore.
00:40:03.33\00:40:06.80
And this is her
ministry, this is her passion...
00:40:07.00\00:40:09.74
Anita and her team.
00:40:09.94\00:40:11.27
They go out and they
literally break down doors
00:40:11.57\00:40:14.94
and pull these young
women out of these situations.
00:40:15.14\00:40:18.61
Sometimes... And they
have to be very cunning
00:40:18.81\00:40:21.28
and get there right on
time because the people who
00:40:21.48\00:40:23.55
are using these
women will hide them.
00:40:23.75\00:40:25.65
So they have to... they
have to break into floors
00:40:26.05\00:40:29.49
to look in places where
these women might be hid
00:40:29.69\00:40:31.89
and they pull them out. Oh wow!
00:40:32.09\00:40:33.96
And when Anita first had
this passion and this ministry
00:40:34.16\00:40:36.80
with a team of big
guys who help her...
00:40:37.00\00:40:39.03
She's my age and she's my size
00:40:39.23\00:40:40.57
so she obviously has
some big guys helping her.
00:40:40.74\00:40:42.67
What's the age group of the
women that are being rescued?
00:40:43.61\00:40:45.81
So primarily they're young.
00:40:46.01\00:40:49.04
Teenagers?
Teenagers through mid-20's.
00:40:49.24\00:40:52.08
But there are some that
are as young as 8 years old.
00:40:52.28\00:40:54.35
Oh! And there are some
who are a little bit older
00:40:54.55\00:40:56.32
which is
heartbreaking. Yes. Yeah.
00:40:56.52\00:40:58.25
And when she first
started rescuing these women
00:40:59.02\00:41:01.42
the only option was to take them
to a government rehabilitation.
00:41:01.62\00:41:04.33
Government center. It wasn't
even a rehabilitation home.
00:41:04.53\00:41:07.66
Sometimes it was a jail.
00:41:07.86\00:41:09.20
But at least they
were out of immediate harm.
00:41:09.90\00:41:12.40
Sometimes the men and women
are involved in trapping them
00:41:12.60\00:41:17.67
into trafficking as well sadly.
00:41:17.87\00:41:19.54
They would show up at
these government institutions
00:41:20.34\00:41:22.84
and try and tell a fancy story
like: "Oh that's my sister.
00:41:23.04\00:41:25.65
I'm her uncle. " And
they would get them back out.
00:41:25.85\00:41:28.48
So the rescue home Azadi Home
00:41:29.78\00:41:31.85
is truly a safe
rehabilitation opportunity
00:41:32.05\00:41:35.76
for these women.
They are told about Jesus.
00:41:35.96\00:41:38.79
They are taught a
trade and a skill.
00:41:38.99\00:41:41.06
They find them jobs in the
community where they can begin
00:41:41.46\00:41:44.13
to use those trades and skills.
00:41:44.33\00:41:45.93
And what I love most
recently about Azadi...
00:41:46.13\00:41:49.40
It holds about 20 women
at a time, and they kind of
00:41:49.60\00:41:52.74
cycle through...
It's also now a place
00:41:52.94\00:41:56.08
where women who become
pregnant and want to keep
00:41:56.28\00:41:59.68
their babies with them can
keep their babies with them.
00:41:59.88\00:42:02.85
There are 5
children at Azadi now.
00:42:03.05\00:42:05.32
Five little ones!
And they are trained.
00:42:05.52\00:42:07.66
They bring a preschool
teacher right into the home. OK.
00:42:07.86\00:42:11.13
The kids never have to
leave; it's very safe. Good.
00:42:11.33\00:42:14.00
And they are able then to have
a completely new lease on life.
00:42:14.20\00:42:17.83
And as you would
expect the mothers
00:42:18.03\00:42:20.14
are happy to be
rescued themselves.
00:42:20.34\00:42:23.00
They are beyond happy -
yes - to see the potential
00:42:23.20\00:42:26.64
for their children to
have a normal and healthy life.
00:42:26.84\00:42:30.25
How many women can
you take in Azadi Home?
00:42:30.55\00:42:32.91
Is there like a
limit as far as? Yeah.
00:42:33.11\00:42:35.22
They have a limit. It's
about 20 women at one time.
00:42:35.42\00:42:37.82
And so the idea is
to help them through.
00:42:38.02\00:42:40.09
How long do they stay before
they have job opportunities
00:42:40.29\00:42:42.66
and training and all
that? How long would they stay?
00:42:42.86\00:42:44.96
It varies depending
on what the needs are.
00:42:45.16\00:42:47.73
But recently a young woman
who'd been there about 2 years
00:42:47.93\00:42:50.87
they were able to graduate
her and launch her out into the
00:42:51.07\00:42:53.94
world and she was able to
go back to her home village.
00:42:54.14\00:42:56.27
Oh wow! And so that
was powerful to see.
00:42:56.47\00:42:59.01
I mean our entire
ministry was in tears
00:42:59.21\00:43:01.28
hearing that story
and reading that story.
00:43:01.48\00:43:03.31
So are there ways then
that people can support?
00:43:04.01\00:43:05.98
'Cause all this costs
money. We're taking evangelism.
00:43:06.31\00:43:07.82
Absolutely;
absolutely. This all costs.
00:43:08.02\00:43:09.72
So is there a way then that
people can donate at VOP.com?
00:43:09.92\00:43:12.95
Definitely. We have infor-
mation about Azadi Home there.
00:43:13.15\00:43:16.22
So go to VOP.com? Yes.
And there's a give button.
00:43:16.42\00:43:18.53
There's a give button
and we need your help!
00:43:18.73\00:43:20.63
OK, so you'll see a
give button at the top. Yep.
00:43:20.83\00:43:22.80
And then just click on
that and there'll be an option.
00:43:23.00\00:43:24.63
You'll find the details
there and you can find the home
00:43:24.83\00:43:26.57
and that kind of stuff.
00:43:26.77\00:43:28.10
If that's where you'd like it
to go we can make that happen.
00:43:28.14\00:43:31.21
Yeah, and as you would expect
there are no photos, no videos.
00:43:31.41\00:43:33.51
We want to keep the girls
safe and protect their privacy.
00:43:33.81\00:43:37.08
I love that, yeah, because
00:43:37.28\00:43:38.95
these are the marginalized.
These are those in society that
00:43:39.15\00:43:41.58
Jesus loves exceedingly and
yet no one else is looking after
00:43:41.78\00:43:45.25
them. So praise the Lord
God put that in your heart
00:43:45.45\00:43:47.59
to do that. I love that!
Well I can't believe our time
00:43:47.79\00:43:50.46
is going. Let's talk
about the Bible School. Yes.
00:43:50.66\00:43:52.96
Let's talk about that
as far as the Bible School
00:43:53.16\00:43:55.63
and VOP and what's involved.
00:43:55.83\00:43:57.83
Well that, of course... We've
talked about multiple things.
00:43:58.03\00:44:00.44
The Bible School is a
vital piece of everything
00:44:00.74\00:44:03.71
that happens. The Bible
School started in 1942...
00:44:03.91\00:44:07.31
not long after VOP started.
00:44:07.51\00:44:09.14
Bible School of the
Air, Fordyce Detamore.
00:44:09.34\00:44:10.78
Yeah, that's right! 1942!
00:44:11.45\00:44:14.05
Um-hmm. Just the
year before I was born.
00:44:14.25\00:44:16.22
We know that's not true.
00:44:18.85\00:44:20.72
I'm doin' the math
and I'm thinkin' that's...
00:44:21.46\00:44:23.19
Well, anyway OK... So tell
us about the Bible School. Yeah.
00:44:23.39\00:44:25.86
So what is the Bible School?
00:44:26.06\00:44:27.73
So it really operates
at the local church level.
00:44:27.93\00:44:32.87
So what the Bible School
does is it allows a local church
00:44:33.07\00:44:37.21
to minister to the communities
00:44:37.41\00:44:40.58
to invite people to study the
Bible. And then it's actually
00:44:40.78\00:44:43.28
run right out of
the local church.
00:44:43.48\00:44:45.98
And so right
here in North America
00:44:46.18\00:44:47.98
there are 2,200...
maybe a little bit more.
00:44:48.18\00:44:50.85
We're running 2,200
Bible Schools in North America
00:44:51.05\00:44:52.55
right now. 2,200 Bible Schools
00:44:52.75\00:44:54.09
that are kind of you know spread
out throughout North America
00:44:54.12\00:44:56.96
centered in a local church.
00:44:57.16\00:44:58.66
And it really becomes a vital
part of our evangelistic mtgs.
00:44:58.86\00:45:02.93
too. I won't actually hold
an evangelistic meeting unless
00:45:03.13\00:45:05.93
there's been a Bible
School running in that town
00:45:06.13\00:45:07.47
for a year or two.
So how does it work?
00:45:07.67\00:45:09.57
Well, a number of
ways, right? Yeah, go ahead.
00:45:09.77\00:45:11.91
There's correspondence.
People can do it old-school
00:45:12.11\00:45:14.11
correspondence. You can
give out cards in the community.
00:45:14.31\00:45:16.01
We'll help you set one up.
00:45:16.21\00:45:17.71
You can also go online now
and tailor it to your own church
00:45:17.91\00:45:20.42
and have your church
members work online with people.
00:45:20.62\00:45:23.08
And your website can be custom-
ized to what you do in your town
00:45:23.28\00:45:26.19
and your event and
that kind of thing. Yes!
00:45:26.39\00:45:27.72
And it's in 100 languages.
00:45:27.92\00:45:29.32
Forty I think. A
hundred and forty languages?
00:45:30.39\00:45:32.09
No 140 countries; 100 languages.
We just added 60 more languages.
00:45:32.29\00:45:34.16
I know, we just concurred.
I'm sorry. Our director's
00:45:34.36\00:45:36.46
probably watching. I know
it's a whole lot of languages
00:45:36.67\00:45:38.93
we just added. But
our newest language
00:45:39.13\00:45:40.77
is Inuktitut... the language of
the Inuit up at the North Pole.
00:45:40.97\00:45:45.77
I've been working up
there for about a decade now.
00:45:45.97\00:45:48.64
I've been making trips up
there to see what's up there
00:45:48.84\00:45:51.58
and now we need a Bible School.
00:45:51.78\00:45:53.11
That's really an unreached
people group right here
00:45:53.15\00:45:55.18
in North America so we're
very... So there are cards
00:45:55.38\00:45:58.19
that people can go in
the community and hand out.
00:45:58.39\00:46:00.16
And then what happens? OK,
so then the card is sent back
00:46:00.36\00:46:02.32
to VOP or to the local
church? It can be both.
00:46:02.52\00:46:05.03
It's however the
church wants to set up.
00:46:05.23\00:46:07.33
VOP is our headquarters
so you can set it up...
00:46:07.53\00:46:10.87
When you sent out the card
it can have our address on it.
00:46:11.27\00:46:13.10
Comes back to us. Our
staff will grade those lessons
00:46:13.30\00:46:16.10
and send them back. OR
you can put the address
00:46:16.30\00:46:18.84
of your local church
and then your local church
00:46:19.04\00:46:21.04
is a Discover
Bible School right there.
00:46:21.24\00:46:23.68
It can do the follow-up
and have the correspondence -
00:46:23.88\00:46:25.48
yeah - with the local church.
Either/or. That's incredible.
00:46:25.68\00:46:28.12
And we'll provide the training
and the materials are all there.
00:46:28.32\00:46:30.25
And you get real relationships.
People get a lot out of this
00:46:30.45\00:46:33.22
because you're not
just looking at their lesson
00:46:33.42\00:46:35.12
you're passing little
notes back and forth. "Wow!
00:46:35.32\00:46:37.36
You really have
great insight here. "
00:46:37.56\00:46:38.89
"Would you pray for
me? My daughter's dying. "
00:46:38.99\00:46:41.13
You get those letters - wow
- and so we have a team that
00:46:41.33\00:46:43.13
does do lessons from all
over the world in the office
00:46:43.33\00:46:45.80
but it's better if
your church runs one.
00:46:46.00\00:46:49.00
So we've got 2,200.
We've got room for 2,201.
00:46:49.20\00:46:52.11
So hurry and sign up!
00:46:53.14\00:46:54.84
I had no idea that you
all had 2,200 Bible Schools.
00:46:55.04\00:46:57.01
Yeah, right here in North
America. That's incredible!
00:46:57.21\00:46:58.65
So if people want their church
to be involved in a Bible School
00:46:58.85\00:47:01.62
they just go to VOP.com?
VOP.com and ask us about it.
00:47:01.82\00:47:04.19
Perfect. Bible Studies.
Look at biblestudies.com
00:47:04.39\00:47:07.19
if you want to see what's
available for Bible studies.
00:47:07.39\00:47:08.82
We've got I don't know 11 or 12
courses now in that set. Um-hmm.
00:47:09.02\00:47:11.99
Yeah, you know in fact we can
even go more personal than that.
00:47:12.49\00:47:17.33
You or I... Greg, you could
start your own Bible school
00:47:17.53\00:47:20.44
if you wanted to.
Really? Just out of my own home?
00:47:20.64\00:47:22.74
You could... absolutely.
00:47:22.94\00:47:24.27
So there is a website and
we could put that image up
00:47:24.47\00:47:27.14
for our viewers who
might want to see that.
00:47:27.34\00:47:28.74
It's BIBLESCHOOLS.COM
00:47:28.94\00:47:30.45
Very easy to remember.
00:47:30.65\00:47:31.98
So when you... If you
have a burden to do this
00:47:32.08\00:47:35.22
to minister to people personally
00:47:35.42\00:47:36.75
maybe you don't have a
church that can do this
00:47:36.92\00:47:39.15
you go on there and
after a couple of steps
00:47:39.35\00:47:41.79
you can set up an
online Bible School
00:47:41.99\00:47:44.79
that any one of us can
run right from our home.
00:47:44.99\00:47:47.80
All you need is a computer
and an Internet connection.
00:47:48.00\00:47:50.17
Incredible! It's
really wonderful.
00:47:50.37\00:47:51.70
OK... so I'm sitting at home
and I'm saying: "I'd like to
00:47:51.80\00:47:53.70
sign up for this and I'm
really interested in that.
00:47:53.90\00:47:55.97
I could maybe
do it from my house
00:47:56.17\00:47:57.51
but I'm not sure I
know all the answers
00:47:57.57\00:47:59.47
so if someone sends it
back how do I? Do I have a cheat
00:47:59.67\00:48:02.21
sheet that tells me
what's the right answer?
00:48:02.41\00:48:04.35
Or how does that
work? " So the online one
00:48:04.55\00:48:07.02
everything is all on the
computer and so you would
00:48:07.22\00:48:10.25
be able to
basically automatically grade.
00:48:10.45\00:48:12.75
And essentially yes, we
would set you completely up
00:48:12.95\00:48:15.06
for success in every way.
Nothing is left to guess work.
00:48:15.26\00:48:18.16
Yes. So we do have
viewers and listeners right now
00:48:18.96\00:48:20.80
that are saying: "You know
what? I'm trying to find God
00:48:21.00\00:48:22.96
but I don't even know
how to study the Bible. "
00:48:23.16\00:48:25.03
"What you guys are saying is
pretty neat, but it sounds like
00:48:25.23\00:48:27.10
I've gotta get involved
in some type of a group. "
00:48:27.30\00:48:29.17
Is there a way that
someone right now at home
00:48:29.57\00:48:31.67
can? Absolutely.
Yep... go to VOP.com
00:48:31.87\00:48:34.41
You've heard that
website before: VOP.com
00:48:34.61\00:48:36.95
Look at the study tab.
00:48:37.15\00:48:38.48
We've got all
kinds of resources there.
00:48:38.78\00:48:40.18
Go to BIBLESCHOOLS.COM
00:48:40.38\00:48:41.75
If you're curious
about what this Book says,
00:48:41.95\00:48:43.75
what the big deal is,
00:48:43.95\00:48:45.29
we've got all the tools you need
to get started in your own home.
00:48:46.35\00:48:48.56
Read this like you would read
any other book on the bookshelf.
00:48:48.76\00:48:50.96
You'll understand
what you're reading.
00:48:51.16\00:48:52.56
It's at your time
in your home, your way.
00:48:52.76\00:48:56.16
Nobody's going to
intrude on your life.
00:48:56.36\00:48:58.23
But go ahead: VOP.com
Click on the study tab
00:48:58.63\00:49:01.74
and we'll set you up with
all the resources you might need
00:49:01.94\00:49:04.17
to just learn what
this Book says for yourself.
00:49:04.37\00:49:06.17
Look... you might still say: "I
don't know if this is for me. "
00:49:06.37\00:49:08.81
But you don't know
that till you read it,
00:49:09.01\00:49:10.68
so we'll help you
read it - that's awesome -
00:49:10.88\00:49:13.05
and then you make up your
mind after you've read it.
00:49:13.25\00:49:15.62
And it's free...
it really is free.
00:49:15.82\00:49:18.22
We just want you to have this.
00:49:18.42\00:49:19.75
I just want to say we believe
in the ministry of VOP. Oh yeah!
00:49:19.99\00:49:23.26
100 percent. We
believe in what God is doing
00:49:23.46\00:49:25.73
in and through
Pastor Shawn and Jean
00:49:25.93\00:49:27.40
and the entire team there.
00:49:27.60\00:49:29.06
We want to put up that
website one more time: VOP.com
00:49:29.26\00:49:32.97
If the Lord has put it on
your heart to help support
00:49:33.17\00:49:35.34
the evangelism that's going on
00:49:35.54\00:49:37.84
or the Bible Schools
00:49:38.04\00:49:39.37
or you want to
become involved in that
00:49:39.41\00:49:41.04
maybe you want to support
the school... not school but
00:49:41.24\00:49:45.15
home for girls there in India.
00:49:45.35\00:49:48.68
Whatever God is
putting on your heart right now
00:49:48.88\00:49:51.59
we want to encourage you
to just go on the website.
00:49:51.79\00:49:54.42
and become
involved in evangelism
00:49:56.46\00:49:59.16
and help support the
ministry of Voice of Prophecy.
00:49:59.36\00:50:02.70
I know we're almost
going to a break here shortly
00:50:02.90\00:50:05.40
but what are some
plans for the future?
00:50:05.60\00:50:07.70
Hmm. Well, we're
re-launching the 1,000 meetings.
00:50:07.90\00:50:11.47
And we've got a new
mini-series after Serpentine
00:50:11.67\00:50:14.88
that I don't know
if I dare even leak it
00:50:15.08\00:50:18.11
but... Yes! Go
ahead! No... that's OK.
00:50:18.31\00:50:22.02
I just kicked the
table again like a pro.
00:50:22.22\00:50:24.09
Yeah... no, no...
we've got a few more.
00:50:24.29\00:50:26.49
There are some
subjects we may explore.
00:50:26.69\00:50:28.79
Why did Islam really rise
and take over 1/3 of the globe?
00:50:28.99\00:50:32.19
OK! I'm workin' on that one.
00:50:32.39\00:50:34.50
That won't come out in
the next year 'cause I'm still
00:50:34.70\00:50:37.13
in the... BUT
Discovering Revelation
00:50:37.33\00:50:40.77
is our series that you
can run at your church.
00:50:40.97\00:50:43.44
We'll have 1,000 of them.
Praise the Lord! I'm begging God
00:50:43.64\00:50:46.37
a thousand of those
in the near future. Amen.
00:50:46.57\00:50:47.94
And then what else is happening?
00:50:48.14\00:50:49.48
Oh, I'm going back to Canada
for my 30th year of evangelism.
00:50:49.51\00:50:52.15
I'm going to hold a
campaign downtown Calgary.
00:50:52.35\00:50:54.38
With a live audience?
In-house audience? Yeah.
00:50:54.58\00:50:56.72
That's the plan. Wow! Currently.
00:50:56.92\00:50:59.45
So I thought: "Eh,
round out 30 years. "
00:50:59.65\00:51:01.39
It's like full circle,
and now if I die... perfect.
00:51:01.59\00:51:04.46
I can die right
on the final night.
00:51:04.66\00:51:06.13
We're praying God gives
you many more healthy years.
00:51:06.33\00:51:08.10
Both of you.
You're a great team.
00:51:08.50\00:51:10.43
You know, and God just...
You guys are here for a purpose
00:51:10.63\00:51:13.64
and a reason. You know,
you think about your testimony
00:51:13.84\00:51:15.64
of what God has
done in your lives
00:51:15.84\00:51:17.17
and think about the impact
that both of you are making,
00:51:17.21\00:51:19.84
your family is making in this
world it's phenomenal, isn't it?
00:51:20.04\00:51:22.54
It's a humbling thought
when you think about 30 years
00:51:22.74\00:51:25.55
in ministry. Yeah.
Thank you as Jill mentioned
00:51:25.75\00:51:28.38
for all that you do
because evangelism is not easy.
00:51:28.58\00:51:30.92
Right? No. It's work.
00:51:31.32\00:51:32.75
It's a lot of work but
it's also rewarding, isn't it?
00:51:32.95\00:51:35.96
Yeah... absolutely.
00:51:36.16\00:51:37.53
What we're going to do
right now is actually go to
00:51:37.73\00:51:39.59
a quick newsbreak
then we'll come back
00:51:39.79\00:51:41.86
for some closing thoughts
from Pastor Shawn and Jean.
00:51:42.06\00:51:44.40