As you're well aware we are
living in unprecedented times.
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Join us
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now for today's special program.
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¤I want to spend my
life mending broken people¤
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¤I want to spend
my life removing pain¤
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¤Lord let my words
in a heart that hurts¤
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¤I want to spend my
life mending broken people¤
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Hello I'm Shelley Quinn and we
are so glad that you are joining
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us today for 3ABN Today. We have
some exciting guests and I just
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have to read a quick scripture.
This is Hebrews chapter 10
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verse 38: It says: The
just shall live by faith but if
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anyone draws back My
soul has no pleasure in him.
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I'm going to tell you, our
guests today live by faith.
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and we're going to get an update
on a wonderful ministry. It is
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called Saving Orphans Through
Health and Outreach (SOHO) and
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many of you will know our
special guest. We have Cynthia
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Prime and you are the founder
and CEO of SOHO. So glad to have
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Thank you, thank you, cofounder.
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Cofounder.
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I do have a
partner, God's crime.
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Amen, praise the Lord. We're
glad. And then Dr. Shalundra
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Sherrod. Isn't that...just rolls
off your tongue. I love that.
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You are the chair of the
Department of Social Work at
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Oakwood. Tell me,
what does that mean?
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Ooo. Well one of the things...
You know the mission of Oakwood
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is we enter, to learn, we depart
to serve. So the goal is to
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train our students to come in
and learn from us, but to go out
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and to serve others.
So that's a goal for us.
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You know, Oakwood has turned
out so many wonderful, wonderful
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graduates. We're very blessed by
that school and ministry there,
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because it's more than education
it is ministry. Then we've got
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Lionel Johnson with us. We
were just saying that he looks a
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little bit like Dr.
Carlton Byrd's younger brother.
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Now I'm going to have to
read your title. You are the
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Associate Professor of
Professional Practice at Andrews
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University, the School of
Architecture and Interior Design
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How long have
you been at Andrews?
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I've been at Andrews
full time for a year now.
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For a year. Yes. That's
wonderful. Well we're just
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excited to have each and every
one and we're going to get to
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know these folk a little bit
better, get a little of their
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personal story. But we know how
much you love music and we have
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Paulo Torres who's wonderful on
the violin and E.T. Everett who
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is going to accompany him on the
piano and the title of the song
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is one of my
favorites, Amazing Grace.
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¤ ¤ Piano alone
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¤ ¤ piano alone
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¤ ¤ Violin joins
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Oh that's beautiful. One of
these days, I'm going to learn
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to play the piano and the violin
Well, if you're joining us just
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a little late, we have an
exciting interview today with
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Cynthia Prime who is the founder
cofounder and CEO of SOHO. That
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is Saving Orphans Through
Health and Outreach. And we have
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Doctor, and that's important,
but I'm not going to call you
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doctor here on the program,
Shalunda Sherrod and here with
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Oakwood. We're glad to have you
you here. And Lionel Johnson.
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We're so excited that you're
here from Andrews. So what we're
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going to do is just get into
these people's amazing stories
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Cynthia tell us just briefly how
the Lord called you to this work
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Well you know, I think sometimes
the Lord just says there is the
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Red Sea or there is the
rising Jordan, Move. And that
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was the way He
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called, because there was no
support, no anything. It's just
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being in southern Africa in the
country with the highest HIV and
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AIDS prevalence in the entire
world. Called to do camp meeting
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there and encountering just, it
was at that time 150,000 orphans
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because they had a 32 percent
HIV prevalence in the country at
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that time. And 3ABN was
very helpful because they raised
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enough to help us feed and
begin... And it's while they're
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watching those children the Lord
said, Hey you. It was 15 years
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ago. This is now 15... Can you
imagine that? No. I'm telling
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you the time just went by 15
years ago with nothing but put
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your foot into the ocean or put
your foot into the Jordan and
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that was all. Quit the job;
and I can honestly say not a
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paycheck since then, but watch
God work in such amazing ways.
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It has been amazing because I
know you've had some obstacles.
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But you know what God does?
He turns our obstacles into
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stepping stones. We don't always
see that but He does. But God
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has partnered you with some
amazing people. May I call you
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Shalunda. Yes. Shalunda. Okay.
Tell us just a little...You do
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such an amazing work through
Oakwood but tell us when did
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your relationship with
the Lord really get personal?
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You know it's really interesting
I can really talk about a couple
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of times when I
really knew the God was
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calling me into a closer
relationship with Him and one
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was when I was a teenager kind
of going through some challenges
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at my church with my friends and
I remember my mother saying to
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me that you know it's not about
them, it's about God. Nobody
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has anything to save you, they
can't save you. That's right.
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They have no heaven or hell for
you. And she really helped me to
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that it was about me and God.
But secondly having opportunity
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to attend Oakwood University and
really connect with like-minded
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individuals my age and my
time really helped me to grow my
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relationship with God and I
think it was there at Oakwood
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University ironically I'm
now working there but ironically
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that's another place where God
really spoke to me and I heard
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His voice and my relationship
with Him began to really blossom
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from there.
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Praise God. It is important
that who we associate with
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can influence and
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impact our lives.
And how about you Lionel.
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Sure. Well I grew up in a
Seventh-day Adventist family
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I'm the youngest of three
siblings. My older sisters were
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you know very focused and very
driven. I always found myself
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kind of just floating at
that early stage in my life, not
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really engaged in
the Adventist way.
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Were you the spoiled
baby boy of the family?
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I was the distracted one. And
you know I went to camp meeting
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one summer at a local church
and for some reason that kind of
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sparked a turning point in
my life. Praise God! I got more
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intentional about spending time
with God and I put myself on a
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new path where the trajectory
was always begin able to walk
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with Christ. I'm still walking
with Christ now. Amen. So after
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graduating from Andrews
University I went into the
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professional practice of
architecture and I received
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a call to come
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back and teach at Andrews
University and here I am.
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That's wonderful. How exciting.
Well I know that you have some
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very dedicated partners. Tell
us just a little about SOHO. You
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brought a video. Do you want to
show that now or...you introduce
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the video when you want to.
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Yeah. Let me just share a little
bit first. You know that we
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started out there. It was Swazi
...It was Swaziland at that time
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Now, what is it?
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And it's called eSwatini.
eSwatini. Yes, yes. The king
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decided to change the name.
Okay So I mean his prerogative I
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guess. Anyway we began just
doing what we could as you know.
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You know, container loads of
supplies and what not and then
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God enabled us to form an
organization there, a nonprofit
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there, so you have a _ for
SOHO in eSwatini and we began
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building. We have a school. We
have...We've been serving these
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15 years, children from child-
headed households, orphans and
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vulnerable children just doing..
But Shelly, I would tell you
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that there has been a gap. There
has been a gap. There have been
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to many children who would come
and who would be brought to our
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attention, abused or homeless,
and we had nowhere. But we
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wanted, we were praying for
years for a place that we could
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have possession of, not tribal
land that could be taken away
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from you, yes, where God could
do something. Where we can build
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housing, where we could begin to
impact their lives because you
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know they come to get food, they
get clothes, they get medical
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care and then they go back. I've
seen them go back to situations
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where they were being raped and
what not. You could do nothing
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about it. And then God decided,
can you imagine, after, it was
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about 14 years, just before our
14th year, God decided, Okay I'm
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ready. Amazing grace. Here's
a little nonprofit organization
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He finds us one of the most
difficult to find things, right,
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one of the best farms in the
entire country when there are so
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few available and enabled the
farm at a half a million dollar
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investment to be paid off with
no...I mean, how is it done?
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Only God can do that. So where
we are right now, we've been
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feeding, we've been clothing,
but then COVID hit and when
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COVID hit schools were closed.
More abuse, more underage
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pregnancies as a result and more
children starving and we've been
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giving, giving to almost
depletion and God says the time
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is now. So what we are doing
right now in addition, by the
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way, to COVID there was an
uprising, there had been an
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uprising because 60, 67 percent
of the population live on like
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a dollar 25 a day. And a lot of
children are having to pay for
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schooling. It becomes an issue.
So riots, schools closed and a
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lot of disruption. But that
created more for hunger, for
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hope and a hunger for Christ. So
where we are right now I'm want
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to start with that video that
says, okay, so we've been doing
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that but we have to take it to
the next level. And we're ready
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to do that. So take a look at
that video and it will let you
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know what is
happening at the farm.
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Okay and we'll
look at that video now.
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God has provided Intsaba with
its rolling hills and pristine
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environment. It's a farm where
vegetables and fruits can grow
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year round. Our partner in
agriculture is Dr. Tom Chetick,
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a retired dean of the
School of Agriculture at Andrews
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University. To date, a reservoir
has been built and an irrigation
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system to water the crops. Five
hundred new macadamia nut trees
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have been added to the orchard.
Vegetables are planted and the
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crops are growing that will feed
hungry bellies. But the farm has
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an even greater role. It is
to help sustain the children's
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village that is planned.
The farm needs produce storage,
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processing equipment and
transportation because it has to
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do more than feed. It has to
produce resources as well. This
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means there'll be more skills
training, more jobs for local
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families to support themselves
and more resources for the
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orphans and vulnerable
children we'll be caring for.
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So right now we're
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looking for sponsorship for
the children, donors to help us
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build homes, build housing,
build staff housing as well as
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homes for the children,
missionaries to help us with
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their expertise. Our partners
in this project currently are
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Andrews University School of
Architecture and Interior Design
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and Andrews University School
of Business, Oakwood University
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as an institution is fully
pledged as a partner in this
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project. The Schools of
Social Work, Psychology and
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Communications are already
actively involved as well as the
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Chaplaincy Department. The
prospect of what God can do is
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exciting but it takes all of
us working together. Together we
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can beef up the existing program
to serve more children at our
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schools, at our center. And
Intsaba, the mountain farm, can
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become a beacon of light to the
entire country. It all depends
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on us. So let us work towards
this. Let us pray for this. Let
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us seize this divine opportunity
to change the future for
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children who
have so little hope.
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There is such a great need to
reach these children and they're
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pretty much steeped in
witch craft. Tell us about their
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lifestyles. I mean, other than
we know they're living below the
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poverty level. We know that
they're being traumatized. Tell
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us about their
religious backgrounds.
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Right, and below the poverty
line for us means not having
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brand name tennis shoes and what
not. Below the poverty line for
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them means do I get one
meal a day? You know, one of the
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challenges that we have and have
had in teaching Christ, it's a
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Christian environment,
it's a Christian society, it's a
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Christian country predominantly.
There are other religions, okay,
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but the Christianity is married
to, they call it, traditional
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beliefs which is the worship of
the dead, the communication with
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the dead and what have you. So
the healing and all of that, it
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is really a contemporized
version of witchcraft, really.
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And so the children even in
their religious experience
sometimes experience
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abuse, you know what I'm saying.
We have children who come to our
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class and we know that there
is a spiritual thing there, the
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behavior of the child and you
have to try to pray and you have
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to try to bring them together.
There's a lot of depression.
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A very, very high juvenile
suicide rate because hope, and
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that is what we're all about.
Hope is health, it's opportunity
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its purpose, it's empowerment
and is all has to come through
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Christ. So yes, Shelley, we've
been working on the feeding and
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all of that but the Lord has
said, You know, talk about the
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Divine Moment, and this time in
the history of the planet it's
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like you know what, if those
children don't get a chance to
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understand, not just sing about,
Our God is a God of power and
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then you know that the ancestors
you have to watch out for. But
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to teach them the power of the
real God and that is what this
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village is for. We need them to
live where we can be sure that
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they're safe from abuse. But
we need them to be able to have
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skills but we need them to
get to know to be immersed in
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Christianity as it really is.
Not just go sing about it and
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say about it and then be
terrified because somebody's
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going to put mootie on you.
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Yes, and you know to me this
is what's so exciting is this is
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the multifaceted ministry
of SOHO. This is how you Dr.
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Shalunda Sherrod, you became
involved is to...Tell us about
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your part of the mission because
it's so wonderful that Oakwood
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is partnering with SOHO.
00:20:41.77\00:20:43.20
She mentions it in the video
that there's several partners on
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Oakwood's campus and social work
is my department of course and
00:20:47.41\00:20:50.21
there's chaplaincy, Chaplain
Palegie who's leading out in
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spiritual life and various
departments. Um, one of the
00:20:54.38\00:20:58.25
things that we want to do is
offer training to the caregivers
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and that training will involve
just helping them to understand
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that these children have been
traumatized and we're coming
00:21:07.40\00:21:10.67
from a trauma informed
perspective where we want to
00:21:10.70\00:21:14.47
address trauma. And what I like
about trauma informed care is
00:21:14.50\00:21:18.84
it really asks the question
what happened to you, not what's
00:21:18.87\00:21:22.14
wrong with you? So we want to go
from a perspective really trains
00:21:22.18\00:21:27.15
the caregivers to ask that
question; what happened to you?
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And then how do they then help
them. One of the things I really
00:21:31.99\00:21:37.89
like about this trauma informed
care perspective is that it
00:21:37.93\00:21:41.36
focuses on one, providing safety
for the kids, safety physically
00:21:41.40\00:21:47.14
safety emotionally. It focuses
on trustworthiness, being able
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to trust the people that are
coming in and really the kids
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have to get to a place where
they trust what you're doing for
00:21:55.84\00:21:58.95
them, right? But they also have
to have some level of control in
00:21:58.98\00:22:03.32
their life. So the kids need
to be able to choose some of the
00:22:03.35\00:22:07.76
things that you're going to do
for them and have some control
00:22:07.79\00:22:10.63
over it. It's not like just
coming in and we're doing this,
00:22:10.66\00:22:13.36
this and that, but they
have some control. We need
00:22:13.40\00:22:17.73
collaboration.
00:22:17.77\00:22:19.10
And these are kids that have
probably never had any control
00:22:19.13\00:22:21.00
in their life.
00:22:21.04\00:22:22.37
Exactly and so that will even be
new to them. But that's what the
00:22:22.40\00:22:25.57
training will do when we train
the caregivers on this trauma
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informed perspective and
lastly it will help them to be
00:22:29.91\00:22:33.98
empowered. When we leave
the caregivers are empowered to
00:22:34.02\00:22:39.95
carry on with the skills and
the training that we have taught
00:22:39.99\00:22:44.19
them, that we've you know
brought to them and allow them
00:22:44.23\00:22:46.80
to continue to ask the question,
What happened to you? Not what's
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wrong with you?
00:22:52.90\00:22:56.14
Amen. So you are ministering
as Jesus ministered and that is
00:22:56.17\00:23:00.64
first you're meeting the
physical needs. Secondly you're
00:23:00.68\00:23:04.78
meeting their emotional and
spiritual needs. But now we have
00:23:04.81\00:23:11.49
a place to put these children
and you have no idea unless
00:23:11.52\00:23:17.46
you've been to a country like
this and I have been, not in
00:23:17.49\00:23:21.86
this particular area. But it's
jarring; that's the only word I
00:23:21.90\00:23:27.70
can think of to say. When you go
to a country where there are so
00:23:27.74\00:23:31.97
many orphans, where there are
children who have been abused,
00:23:32.01\00:23:35.71
traumatized perhaps, and
violated, let's just put it that
00:23:35.74\00:23:41.55
way. They're violated. And you
see these precious little eyes
00:23:41.58\00:23:45.92
even when you first start
feeding them. You've probably
00:23:45.95\00:23:49.02
experienced this; they're going
to hold on to that food. They
00:23:49.06\00:23:52.73
don't trust that there's going
to be another meal coming. But
00:23:52.76\00:23:56.23
they don't know how to trust a
human being. How can they trust
00:23:56.26\00:24:00.77
God if their caretakers aren't
reflecting that love and that
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light, the life of God. But
having a place where children
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who have no home can come is
critical so Tah Dah. Now here's
00:24:11.31\00:24:18.55
where Andrews Department
of Architecture comes in.
00:24:18.59\00:24:21.86
Sure. So we're one of two
schools that have been engaged
00:24:21.89\00:24:25.79
in this project, the first being
the School of Agriculture and
00:24:25.83\00:24:28.80
the second, like you said, is
the School of Architecture and
00:24:28.83\00:24:30.63
Interior Design. This is
actually our second engagement
00:24:30.67\00:24:33.47
in the project. Initially it
was started with Andrew Lamar,
00:24:33.50\00:24:37.24
Professor Andrew Lamar and
Christopher Perry. They led an
00:24:37.27\00:24:39.97
exercise the previous year to
go down in person to eSwatini,
00:24:40.01\00:24:43.68
scope the thousand acre land
and create a master plan. The
00:24:43.71\00:24:47.65
following year our fifth
year graduates which are in the
00:24:47.68\00:24:50.82
Masters of Architecture program
became really excited about the
00:24:50.85\00:24:54.29
program, okay. And they got to
be able to actually come up with
00:24:54.32\00:24:57.63
what would be the genesis of a
shape of home for these students
00:24:57.66\00:25:01.03
for these children and OVCs
So it started off with a very
00:25:01.06\00:25:06.23
intense two to three
week research activity. I was
00:25:06.27\00:25:10.41
impressed with how engaged
the students became. I mean they
00:25:10.44\00:25:14.11
just became engrossed
in understanding the local
00:25:14.14\00:25:16.68
tradition, understanding
the local architecture,
00:25:16.71\00:25:19.31
understanding some of the
sensibilities of the culture and
00:25:19.35\00:25:22.75
the having that knowledge
influence the design, okay.
00:25:22.78\00:25:25.02
I just have to say because I
know you brought some pictures
00:25:25.05\00:25:30.59
so when you're ready for a
picture you call for it because.
00:25:30.63\00:25:34.50
Okay. We can bring up one or two
of the pictures now. Okay. So in
00:25:34.53\00:25:38.67
this particular instance four
of the students: Mikhala Broa,
00:25:38.70\00:25:42.24
Sarah O'Connor, Ashley Randolph
and Monalee Machado worked
00:25:42.27\00:25:50.21
intensely in a collaborative
effort to create a housing
00:25:50.25\00:25:53.08
shelter situation for the
students. They named it A Shape
00:25:53.11\00:25:56.48
of Home. Okay. So, there were a
couple of things that had to be
00:25:56.52\00:25:59.79
taken care of. Well how do we
house these children, how many
00:25:59.82\00:26:02.39
children, where does the
caretaker live? Okay, so at the
00:26:02.42\00:26:06.49
end of it we had a collaborative
exercise between professional
00:26:06.53\00:26:10.83
architects in America and
eSwatini, even in Australia and
00:26:10.87\00:26:14.67
intense dialogues resulted
in what you see on the screen.
00:26:14.70\00:26:17.84
Okay. We finally reached out to
the local university in eSwatini
00:26:17.87\00:26:23.11
What I am seeing on the screen,
is that three different homes?
00:26:23.14\00:26:24.91
It is. Okay. So let me unpack it
for a little bit. Okay. So each
00:26:24.95\00:26:31.42
house houses eight OVCs with
one caretaker. There's bathroom
00:26:31.45\00:26:37.59
facilities, there's a living
room there's a kitchen and
00:26:37.63\00:26:41.53
there's a social gathering of
these students and they create a
00:26:41.56\00:26:44.33
bond okay. However in the
compound there are three other
00:26:44.37\00:26:47.77
buildings. So imagine each
pod of three containing 24 OVCs.
00:26:47.80\00:26:53.27
There's spaces for social
gathering, there's spaces for
00:26:53.31\00:26:57.58
outdoor activities, et cetera.
And what was interesting with
00:26:57.61\00:27:03.08
the students is that students
had such an involvement in this
00:27:03.12\00:27:07.56
program, in this exercise, that
they actually created a lot of
00:27:07.59\00:27:11.39
locally resourced materials such
as, you know, mud brick, thatch
00:27:11.43\00:27:16.53
which was available on the
property so that it could be
00:27:16.56\00:27:21.20
local traditions that are
actually built upon by people in
00:27:21.24\00:27:24.54
the community that could come
and just use what's available.
00:27:24.57\00:27:27.44
That's wonderful. So we saw
you're considering the roof,
00:27:27.48\00:27:32.68
you're considering the materials
you're considering...you know
00:27:32.71\00:27:36.25
it's interesting about
architecture and some people
00:27:36.28\00:27:38.69
don't realize this, but
architecture has to consider the
00:27:38.72\00:27:43.83
way of life. I mean you are
laying out a blueprint where
00:27:43.86\00:27:48.36
life is going to happen. Exactly
And that's exciting that you
00:27:48.40\00:27:53.03
took into consideration
all of these factors.
00:27:53.07\00:27:57.01
It was interesting because here
it is at the end of the day we
00:27:57.04\00:28:00.08
ended up with architecture
that is uniquely eSwatini. It's
00:28:00.11\00:28:03.55
reinforcing their culture.
Creating a sense of place for
00:28:03.58\00:28:07.22
them.
00:28:07.25\00:28:08.58
And that's very, very important.
So let's kind of go back to the
00:28:08.62\00:28:15.19
agriculture. Your plan right
now is we're going to train up
00:28:15.22\00:28:20.93
people to care for these
traumatized children. That's
00:28:20.96\00:28:24.37
where Oakwood comes in. We've
got the agriculture department
00:28:24.40\00:28:27.94
of Andrews University and the
architectural department trying
00:28:27.97\00:28:32.84
to put together a plan, as you
said, not just to feed them but
00:28:32.87\00:28:40.58
to sustain them. This is that
old saying, You give a person a
00:28:40.62\00:28:47.66
fish, you feed them one day. You
teach them how to fish and then
00:28:47.69\00:28:53.53
they learn to feed themselves.
So this is something that you're
00:28:53.56\00:28:56.73
looking at, sustainability.
00:28:56.77\00:28:58.73
It's absolutely, absolutely
essential. You know you can go
00:28:58.77\00:29:03.84
to donors and say okay we're
going to start up. Okay. There
00:29:03.87\00:29:07.51
is this incredible place that
we want to build a children's
00:29:07.54\00:29:10.45
village. That's many years and
millions of dollars. And you're
00:29:10.48\00:29:13.88
looking at God calling a teeny
little nonprofit. Do you know
00:29:13.92\00:29:17.69
what I'm saying? Yes. And
He's saying I'll do this and He
00:29:17.72\00:29:22.12
begins to build these
partnerships. That's how it's
00:29:22.16\00:29:24.93
going to happen. He's going
to build these partnerships but
00:29:24.96\00:29:29.43
right now what we have been
doing over the past two COVID
00:29:29.46\00:29:33.54
years is really just growing
food, growing food and feeding
00:29:33.57\00:29:37.64
them and depleting. That is not
sustainable, because you have to
00:29:37.67\00:29:43.38
pay workers and you can't just
be going and saying, Um Help.
00:29:43.41\00:29:47.12
So the objective is game one,
two things, let us...you know
00:29:47.15\00:29:53.86
there's a team that is working
together including the School of
00:29:53.89\00:29:56.83
Business at Andrews University
too. Okay, let us put together a
00:29:56.86\00:30:02.33
development strategy. Let's make
it sustainable. Agriculture is
00:30:02.36\00:30:06.74
key. So you've got 1083
acres literally, right? And the
00:30:06.77\00:30:10.84
beginning of 450 acres arable.
You've got a macadamia nut
00:30:10.87\00:30:14.81
plantation, okay. What that will
mean in the next three years
00:30:14.84\00:30:18.61
or so. Okay macadamia nuts, that
could be expanded. You can grow
00:30:18.65\00:30:22.88
veggies, you can grow a lot
and it will not only feed the
00:30:22.92\00:30:29.12
children, it will not only teach
agricultural skills but it could
00:30:29.16\00:30:33.09
begin to generate revenue to
help sustain. So agriculture is
00:30:33.13\00:30:38.07
very, very key. So right now
what we're saying and number one
00:30:38.10\00:30:43.64
okay, two things, the two-fold
first phase: The agriculture
00:30:43.67\00:30:48.68
program and beginning to house
the children which takes in the
00:30:48.71\00:30:54.35
two departments here, yes, right
We need, we are trying to raise
00:30:54.38\00:31:02.12
for start-up; it's $238.000.
That includes $45,000 for a
00:31:02.16\00:31:09.76
tractor, that includes a 4 x
4, only way...and the processing
00:31:09.80\00:31:17.21
you know so food doesn't wilt,
doesn't waste, a place to put
00:31:17.24\00:31:22.44
the whole structure. The startup
is expensive because you have
00:31:22.48\00:31:25.58
to put all of these under labor.
Okay. Once that gets going then
00:31:25.61\00:31:30.02
you can expand. That place can
grow kiwi, it can grow tropical
00:31:30.05\00:31:33.59
fruits, it can grow stuff all
year round in addition to fruits
00:31:33.62\00:31:37.39
and veggies. There are resources
that could be developed that
00:31:37.43\00:31:42.43
will help sustain. Otherwise
it will die. We struggle now, we
00:31:42.46\00:31:46.33
struggle because every time we
have to come and say, Oh would
00:31:46.37\00:31:49.04
you please help us. That budget
is a startup and then we have
00:31:49.07\00:31:54.14
the budget for the three houses
you know the three bedroom
00:31:54.18\00:31:58.35
houses. It's $45,000 for each
three bedroom house. But you
00:31:58.38\00:32:04.12
know we're having to put
the infrastructure in place too.
00:32:04.15\00:32:06.69
So what we're saying we have
people out there who said you
00:32:06.72\00:32:10.43
know what, we'll do a match. And
I got a call before I came and
00:32:10.46\00:32:13.96
we'll do a matching. So I said
okay I have a goal if I can get
00:32:14.00\00:32:18.23
a matching grant of $100,000
people put that, there'll be
00:32:18.27\00:32:21.97
others who would say, we will
match that. Praise God. And you
00:32:22.00\00:32:25.47
see we've got all working
together. Prayer. We need
00:32:25.51\00:32:29.61
churches to be praying. We
need prayer groups. This is a
00:32:29.64\00:32:33.48
spiritualistic country and we've
experienced some interesting
00:32:33.52\00:32:38.35
things. Prayer. We need prayer.
Volunteers. Expertise in solar
00:32:38.39\00:32:42.22
energy, in renewable energy, in
agriculture. You know, we need
00:32:42.26\00:32:49.46
volunteers. And we need
corporate and church partners.
00:32:49.50\00:32:54.04
We need a partnership. Make this
yours because God is going to
00:32:54.07\00:32:58.41
put a lighthouse on top
of this hill in this country.
00:32:58.44\00:33:02.31
Amen. You know, I'm thinking
of a scripture that says, Do not
00:33:02.34\00:33:05.21
despise the day of small
beginnings. It's so amazing and
00:33:05.25\00:33:10.95
I'm saying this with all honesty
if most of you are familiar with
00:33:10.99\00:33:15.86
Cynthia, she is a woman of faith
she's a woman of the word and
00:33:15.89\00:33:20.63
when God called you to this
project she was like a dog with
00:33:20.66\00:33:24.43
a bone. She wasn't going to
let go through all the hardships
00:33:24.47\00:33:27.90
you've been through.
00:33:27.94\00:33:29.27
There's been some.
00:33:29.30\00:33:30.64
And there have been some,
but it's amazing to me when God
00:33:30.67\00:33:37.01
calls you to something how your
heart is so in it that you're
00:33:37.05\00:33:40.32
ready to make all these self
sacrifices. I mean that's what
00:33:40.35\00:33:44.95
His love is all about,
isn't it. Self-sacrificing.
00:33:44.99\00:33:48.46
At the end of the day what else
matters? I mean why do you do?
00:33:48.49\00:33:52.39
Why do you do and then when
you step out and you're doing...
00:33:52.43\00:33:57.07
It's not comfortable. You leave
corporate America and suddenly
00:33:57.10\00:34:00.37
you're just living on a
very limited income. You know
00:34:00.40\00:34:03.07
everything is going, everything
is going to the kids, you know.
00:34:03.10\00:34:05.94
I'm not good at asking, Shelley.
I'm a round peg in a square hole
00:34:05.97\00:34:10.45
When God says ask the people
for money it hurts but I do need
00:34:10.48\00:34:15.05
two and three hundred thousand
dollars plus, you know. You have
00:34:15.08\00:34:19.49
to, it's not me. But you know
something. It's like you, when
00:34:19.52\00:34:24.56
you can't tell God it's not
comfortable. No. And then when
00:34:24.59\00:34:29.56
you show up He
shows off. Laughter
00:34:29.60\00:34:34.90
I love that. But this
is something that what I so
00:34:34.94\00:34:39.17
appreciate about how God has
brought Andrews in to help with
00:34:39.21\00:34:43.81
the agriculture...The whole
development plan is God's trying
00:34:43.85\00:34:48.22
to get you to that point where
not only can you survive, you
00:34:48.25\00:34:52.85
can thrive where it becomes
a self-supporting ministry.
00:34:52.89\00:34:57.13
Absolutely. And that's exciting
because that's what we need.
00:34:57.16\00:35:03.53
There is only so many pieces to
the pie, people always say, but
00:35:03.57\00:35:07.64
God always knows how to take
that pie like He took the little
00:35:07.67\00:35:12.54
fish and the loaves of bread
and how He can expand that and
00:35:12.57\00:35:16.95
that's what He's doing. So
right now let me make sure I
00:35:16.98\00:35:20.25
understand because we're going
to, in a moment, we will put up
00:35:20.28\00:35:23.79
a way that you can contact SOHO
and this is something that you
00:35:23.82\00:35:30.79
can either volunteer, you're
looking for volunteers with
00:35:30.83\00:35:34.66
expertise in solar energy,
renewable energy, people who can
00:35:34.70\00:35:39.10
actually go over there. Okay.
You looking for...if you can't
00:35:39.13\00:35:46.37
maybe, if you don't have the
funds for a tractor but you've
00:35:46.41\00:35:50.35
that you may be able to
volunteer a tractor, who knows.
00:35:50.38\00:35:54.85
Or donate a tractor.
00:35:54.88\00:35:56.58
Or some company you know a
company that could. The bottom
00:35:56.62\00:35:59.29
line is you know the tractor is
needed and the 4 x 4 is needed.
00:35:59.32\00:36:03.43
Somebody over there
has the connections.
00:36:03.46\00:36:05.59
Somebody had a connection with
John Deere. Oh Yeah. And you see
00:36:05.63\00:36:13.70
that cuts back what we need
so and the team that needs to go
00:36:13.74\00:36:18.17
there. And the housing, the
housing for the kids. We plan to
00:36:18.21\00:36:23.75
make blocks, make our blocks,
you know. There would be people
00:36:23.78\00:36:28.02
with skills, there'd be people
with abilities so...We don't
00:36:28.05\00:36:31.12
have corporate partners like you
know some ministries do. We need
00:36:31.15\00:36:36.89
corporate partners, we need
church partners but we need the
00:36:36.93\00:36:39.79
person who can say you know
all I can do is $38 a month to
00:36:39.83\00:36:44.10
sponsor a child. $38 a month
to sponsor a child. So it would
00:36:44.13\00:36:49.60
either be there's education,
special needs education stuff
00:36:49.64\00:36:53.17
that we do and it does cost
us that, okay. But to sponsor a
00:36:53.21\00:36:57.08
child basic needs, the food, the
basic clothing, the basic health
00:36:57.11\00:37:02.02
that's $38. Okay. Somebody
can say, you know, people can do
00:37:02.05\00:37:07.59
that. I can give $50,000 towards
the matching fund or I can give
00:37:07.62\00:37:11.29
$100,000. But you know God needs
the big ones and at this time
00:37:11.33\00:37:15.80
where we have a window, I
don't believe these windows last
00:37:15.83\00:37:20.64
forever. We have a window to
change an entire country Shelley
00:37:20.67\00:37:23.61
We have the technology we've
paid for, the access to the
00:37:23.64\00:37:32.91
tower so that we can have good
access internet and what not
00:37:32.95\00:37:37.62
from there so we can do e
learning and different things
00:37:37.65\00:37:40.92
It's all set. We just need
partners and people to come on
00:37:40.96\00:37:44.89
and say you know let's take this
mountain for Christ. I'm the
00:37:44.93\00:37:48.30
Joshua here. (laughter)
00:37:48.33\00:37:51.30
Too, Shelley, one of the
things that we've talked about,
00:37:51.33\00:37:53.57
Cynthia, you know as educators
not just with Oakwood but local
00:37:53.60\00:37:59.47
educators like you know we have
you know, Adam Walker with The
00:37:59.51\00:38:01.98
Health of the Harvest in
Huntsville community who has you
00:38:02.01\00:38:06.11
know volunteered to help and
to donate, so local educators to
00:38:06.15\00:38:09.42
help with teaching
the children is important.
00:38:09.45\00:38:13.12
And what about, you know, you're
not just teaching the children
00:38:13.15\00:38:16.79
in changing the generation there
but you intend to eventually
00:38:16.83\00:38:21.23
maybe employ people from the
community teach them agriculture
00:38:21.26\00:38:28.27
skills. So you're looking
for people with that kind of
00:38:28.30\00:38:32.64
expertise.
00:38:32.67\00:38:34.01
Oh yes. Poverty elevation.
I'll tell you, it's poverty that
00:38:34.04\00:38:36.88
makes a girl use her body
for food. If you are running a
00:38:36.91\00:38:39.21
household, you're 16 years
old and you have four or five
00:38:39.25\00:38:43.99
children that are siblings and
somebody brings in the groceries
00:38:44.02\00:38:46.35
and takes you behind the shed
then you do what you need to do.
00:38:46.39\00:38:49.42
So you get the food on a regular
basis. So poverty perpetuates
00:38:49.46\00:38:54.13
abuse. So the skills training.
Andrews University has also put
00:38:54.16\00:38:58.33
together a virtual artisan
village where they're hoping
00:38:58.37\00:39:01.54
that you know products could be
sold and they're going to manage
00:39:01.57\00:39:05.24
it, the business school is going
to manage it so we get some of
00:39:05.27\00:39:07.88
the, yeah, I mean creative ideas
There are business people there
00:39:07.91\00:39:12.15
with creative
ideas and with a passion.
00:39:12.18\00:39:14.42
I'm just amazed at how God has
brought these associates, people
00:39:14.45\00:39:22.29
who are, you know, I mean,
how did all of that come about?
00:39:22.32\00:39:27.00
Well you know it is like
this. Number one we need this
00:39:27.03\00:39:30.83
to be able
00:39:30.87\00:39:32.20
to start. The organizer at 3ABN
says hey let's talk about it a
00:39:32.23\00:39:35.74
bit. You get enough. You feed,
You begin and you realize that
00:39:35.77\00:39:38.91
I remember I was on that
interview. I can't believe it
00:39:38.94\00:39:43.14
was 15 years ago.
00:39:43.18\00:39:44.68
Yeah 15 years ago. It dates
you doesn't it. But you know you
00:39:44.71\00:39:47.95
realize how small you are and
how limited you are and you know
00:39:47.98\00:39:53.25
we've kept it going and then you
realize, you know what, is Jesus
00:39:53.29\00:39:58.83
coming. He is coming, He's
coming and I have watched. We've
00:39:58.86\00:40:04.30
lost kids. We've lost kids
to suicide, we've lost kids to
00:40:04.33\00:40:09.87
trafficking. It's like, you know
what, enough. We need to be able
00:40:09.90\00:40:14.38
to house or they go. They come
and they learn some scripture
00:40:14.41\00:40:19.48
and they sing the songs and then
they go and it's a different
00:40:19.51\00:40:24.29
life. We need an environment
where these children can grow up
00:40:24.32\00:40:28.46
And as you said, you can change
the entire country. Tell us what
00:40:28.49\00:40:35.26
your heart when you first
heard about this. to think
00:40:35.30\00:40:38.53
that you can have a mission to
teach how to not just minister
00:40:38.57\00:40:46.71
spiritually and don't please
when I say just. Sometimes we go
00:40:46.74\00:40:52.61
out and we just want to I'm
going to say it, don't write in.
00:40:52.65\00:41:00.62
But we just want to ram the
truth down people's throats.
00:41:00.66\00:41:03.83
And if we don't meet
their physical needs, meet their
00:41:03.86\00:41:09.10
emotional needs, help bind
up their wounds, what we're
00:41:09.13\00:41:15.54
teaching them is not generally
going to be really effective
00:41:15.57\00:41:21.28
because they go right back
out into the arena of abuse or
00:41:21.31\00:41:29.05
trauma. So when you first
heard about this, what was your
00:41:29.08\00:41:31.95
reaction Shalunda?
00:41:31.99\00:41:34.82
My first reaction was that just
the amazing opportunity to, not
00:41:34.86\00:41:40.23
just for me to be involved or
for the social work department
00:41:40.26\00:41:42.63
to be involved but for the
students to be involved, for the
00:41:42.66\00:41:47.40
students in our department to go
you know do internships or field
00:41:47.44\00:41:53.04
placements to go and be a part
of the project but also you know
00:41:53.07\00:41:57.01
Oakwood has four hand ministry
that Chaplain Paledgedly
00:41:57.05\00:42:04.25
organizes. Couldn't get the word
out. But for the students to
00:42:04.29\00:42:07.16
actually, go and be a part of
it. And I think that as you know
00:42:07.19\00:42:12.29
the young children, the orphans,
look at others who are closer to
00:42:12.33\00:42:15.73
their age may be, seeing them,
they see I can be that. You know
00:42:15.76\00:42:22.80
I can do that, I can go one
day and help others, I can serve
00:42:22.84\00:42:26.98
others. And I think that the
opportunity for the students to
00:42:27.01\00:42:29.34
be engaged in this opportunity
is really what really stuck with
00:42:29.38\00:42:34.02
me and I've really been
committed. Cynthia and I talk
00:42:34.05\00:42:38.05
often about really getting this
partnership going and us really
00:42:38.09\00:42:41.76
getting involved. Ultimately
to get our students there on the
00:42:41.79\00:42:47.00
ground, working, serving,
learning and teaching the
00:42:47.03\00:42:51.53
students how to...like I said
before, to empower them, to be
00:42:51.57\00:42:57.04
able to live once their
gone, the students are gone.
00:42:57.07\00:42:59.71
You know it's neat because what
you're doing is not only are you
00:42:59.74\00:43:04.58
affecting a generation in
eSwatini eSwatini, Swaziland was
00:43:04.61\00:43:10.99
so much easier for me. But
in eSwatini you are affecting a
00:43:11.02\00:43:16.69
generation here. You're
teaching them how to fulfill the
00:43:16.73\00:43:19.43
great commission, how to go out
and minister to all of these.
00:43:19.46\00:43:24.63
And I think it's exciting as
well for your students, not just
00:43:24.67\00:43:30.47
learning technical skills
but they're learning to identify
00:43:30.51\00:43:36.41
with the needs of people, you
know what we're talking about
00:43:36.44\00:43:41.15
the design.
00:43:41.18\00:43:42.52
To serve globally. Right. So the
students come and they get that
00:43:42.55\00:43:46.42
technical knowledge, but our
school of architecture tries to
00:43:46.45\00:43:49.56
elevate the discourse, right?
It's not just about engaging
00:43:49.59\00:43:52.39
professionally in the workplace,
it's about taking that skill and
00:43:52.43\00:43:55.06
helping people that may not be
able to even afford it or that
00:43:55.10\00:43:58.30
need it. So we encourage them to
go and serve globally and this
00:43:58.33\00:44:04.67
project with Cynthia Prime is
one of many that the school of
00:44:04.71\00:44:06.91
architecture is engaged with
and to be quite honest, with the
00:44:06.94\00:44:10.91
amount of international students
and students from America that
00:44:10.95\00:44:13.65
we have in our school, they
relish the opportunity to get
00:44:13.68\00:44:17.65
involved and then they just go
at it. When we say hey we have
00:44:17.69\00:44:21.62
a need, right? When this project
was brought to us we really felt
00:44:21.66\00:44:27.30
heartfelt sorrow for what was
happening to the young girls and
00:44:27.33\00:44:30.97
OVCs in eSwatini and we
thought that hey, okay, here as
00:44:31.00\00:44:37.01
architects we can solve one
of the basic needs for human
00:44:37.04\00:44:40.28
habitation. We can do that all
right. And we can do something
00:44:40.31\00:44:42.41
in a way that doesn't feel
foreign. We can do something in
00:44:42.44\00:44:45.18
way that feels loving and
cherishing to the OVCs. Some
00:44:45.21\00:44:49.08
place that they
can call their own.
00:44:49.12\00:44:50.45
What is an O-V-C?
00:44:50.49\00:44:52.42
It's an orphan
or vulnerable child.
00:44:52.45\00:44:55.86
Okay. Orphan or vulnerable child
We certainly have a lot there.
00:44:55.89\00:45:00.76
You know, I'm just thinking.
Sometimes we hear of all the
00:45:00.80\00:45:07.44
needs in the world. And it's
like, well what can I do? You
00:45:07.47\00:45:12.27
know, it's interesting to
me, and we've seen this, because
00:45:12.31\00:45:15.51
when you first came here, it was
Seeds of Hope, is that what we
00:45:15.54\00:45:19.38
were? We were Seeds of Hope.
And it's interesting how when we
00:45:19.41\00:45:26.09
drop a pebble, our little small
portion, we drop that pebble in
00:45:26.12\00:45:31.09
the pond and we think, I don't
know how much difference my
00:45:31.13\00:45:35.53
contribution is making. But
then we see how God has put into
00:45:35.56\00:45:44.34
place the physical dynamics that
that one little pebble in the
00:45:44.37\00:45:49.91
pond has a ripple effect and it
keeps growing. So from the point
00:45:49.94\00:45:55.32
where we were raising money
for Seeds now you're looking at
00:45:55.35\00:46:02.29
School. We have...You know from
there I mean we have school,
00:46:02.32\00:46:06.96
the first school helping
children with disabilities.
00:46:07.00\00:46:09.23
We're there, care points, we're
already serving. They're growing
00:46:09.26\00:46:14.50
seeds, yes, but they're also
learning skills but now with 50
00:46:14.54\00:46:20.51
percent of the population under
20 years of age, with a young
00:46:20.54\00:46:23.88
population like that, ripe
for either the positive or the
00:46:23.91\00:46:29.48
negative. What a window of
opportunity we have together.
00:46:29.52\00:46:34.82
But if SOHO, if we had to go
and let's pay for an architect,
00:46:34.86\00:46:40.56
let's pay for social...you know
what I'm saying. Number one, it
00:46:40.60\00:46:43.16
just puts money in the
professional's pocket. But we
00:46:43.20\00:46:47.80
get to help save a
whole generation of youth, of
00:46:47.84\00:46:52.27
millennials that are leaving
religious affiliations because
00:46:52.31\00:46:57.91
they want to change the
world. They are giving them an
00:46:57.95\00:47:01.08
opportunity to change the
world. See so it comes together
00:47:01.12\00:47:05.32
beautifully. And we
need more, we need more.
00:47:05.35\00:47:09.99
Okay so let's go over one more
time because we're coming to the
00:47:10.03\00:47:13.29
close of our time. We'll be
taking a break in just a moment
00:47:13.33\00:47:17.17
and we will give you the contact
information for SOHO. But tell
00:47:17.20\00:47:22.50
us once again what your needs
are and about the matching fund.
00:47:22.54\00:47:26.54
Okay, we need the money for
the startup of the agriculture
00:47:26.57\00:47:32.21
program is $238,000 which
includes the $45,000 for a
00:47:32.25\00:47:38.55
tractor...
00:47:38.59\00:47:39.92
Which we're hoping
somebody knows John Deere...
00:47:39.95\00:47:42.26
Thank you, thank you. We'll pray
on that. And we need a 4 X 4.
00:47:42.29\00:47:46.29
There's no way around it. It's
a mountain farm. We need a 4 x 4
00:47:46.33\00:47:50.23
That includes also a processing
place so when vegetables and
00:47:50.27\00:47:54.54
fruits come, they don't wilt.
You know, there's a place to...
00:47:54.57\00:47:59.57
So that's start up. Okay. That's
startup so that we can begin to
00:47:59.61\00:48:03.61
build sustainability. Moving
forward we wouldn't need to buy
00:48:03.65\00:48:07.12
a tractor, wouldn't need to...
You know we just need to keep
00:48:07.15\00:48:09.98
that going. So we need that
$238,000 first. We need, as far
00:48:10.02\00:48:15.52
as the housing for the children
the three pods with three
00:48:15.56\00:48:19.49
bedrooms each, three living
spaces each we need $45,000 each
00:48:19.53\00:48:24.17
with their infrastructure, to
be able to put that first pod of
00:48:24.20\00:48:28.40
housing that will allow us to
serve up to the first 24,000, 24
00:48:28.44\00:48:34.34
Wouldn't it be wonderful
(indistinct) Oh that would be
00:48:34.38\00:48:37.55
Hallelujah time. But the first
24 children, even while we serve
00:48:37.58\00:48:41.18
the community. We would not be
as we've been in the situation
00:48:41.22\00:48:44.42
where we see children with
nowhere to go with risks knowing
00:48:44.45\00:48:50.06
what's going to happen to them
and say, I'm sorry, we have no
00:48:50.09\00:48:52.69
place to put you. And you see
that also allows organization.
00:48:52.73\00:48:58.43
We need people just to donate to
say keep going, I mean, because
00:48:58.47\00:49:02.20
there are operational needs too.
Keep going, keep going. And we
00:49:02.24\00:49:06.64
need hearts.
00:49:06.68\00:49:08.01
So you're looking for
volunteers. Tell us what you're
00:49:08.04\00:49:10.95
looking for. Yeah, engineering
skills would be lovely. I know
00:49:10.98\00:49:15.08
we use solar energy there.
We have access to somebody
00:49:15.12\00:49:18.55
mentioned wind and water. People
who know about energy
conservation. If they're
00:49:18.59\00:49:22.52
alums from Andrews University
School of Agriculture or
00:49:22.56\00:49:27.23
agriculture experts, wow. You've
got a challenge because we've
00:49:27.26\00:49:31.63
got two climates there on that
one farm. Tropical on the other
00:49:31.67\00:49:35.87
and being able to grow all year
round. Being able to be creative
00:49:35.90\00:49:39.51
and be able to make it
sustainable. We need that. We
00:49:39.54\00:49:42.94
need volunteers and we need
prayer warriors. We want to have
00:49:42.98\00:49:46.41
a SOHO prayer team because we're
fighting forces that we cannot
00:49:46.45\00:49:52.12
see. We need that too. So
volunteers, sponsors, you know,
00:49:52.15\00:49:56.06
for children, $38 per month will
keep things going. So it's wide
00:49:56.09\00:50:02.06
open. We've come this far by
faith and the faith is extended
00:50:02.10\00:50:07.04
now. Yes, yes, yes.
00:50:07.07\00:50:09.54
This is what our theme here
at 3ABN is look at what God has
00:50:09.57\00:50:16.51
done. That's our...And look at
God, what He has done. I believe
00:50:16.54\00:50:22.55
that the Holy Spirit is stirring
many people right now and you
00:50:22.58\00:50:29.36
may be saying I don't know what
I could do. Well you can get in
00:50:29.39\00:50:32.63
touch with SOHO. Go to their
website. You can look at the
00:50:32.66\00:50:37.73
information. If God is stirring
your heart right now, we all
00:50:37.77\00:50:40.94
need to reach out and help so
here is how you can get in touch
00:50:40.97\00:50:46.51
with SOHO.
00:50:46.54\00:50:48.18
If you would like to contact or
know more about Saving Orphans
00:50:48.21\00:50:53.18
Through Healthcare and Outreach
you can do so in the following
00:50:53.21\00:50:56.15
ways: You can write to them
at 1100 West 42nd Street, Suite
00:50:56.18\00:51:02.42
223E, Indianapolis, IN
46208. You can call them at
00:51:02.46\00:51:11.60
(317) 779-0001. That's
(317) 779-0001 You can visit
00:51:11.63\00:51:21.58
visit their website at
Saving-Orphans.org. You can send
00:51:21.61\00:51:26.92
them an e-mail at
Info@SavingOrphans.org
00:51:26.95\00:51:30.79