As you're well aware,
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we're living in
unprecedented times.
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Join us now for
Today special program.
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Removing pain
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Lord, let my words
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Heal a heart that hurts
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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Hello and welcome to
another 3ABN Today program.
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Thank you for joining us
as you do each and every day.
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And as always, I
always like to say
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thank you for your
love and your prayers
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and financial support of 3ABN
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as we endeavor to take this
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great gospel of the
kingdom into all the world.
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What an
incredible time to be alive
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in the closing
moments of earth's history.
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What do you think? It is.
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This is an amazing time
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and we're so
blessed here at 3ABN
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to be able to
highlight different ministries
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that have that vision as well.
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So we can carry the vision
of the gospel to all the world.
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What a great segue to thank
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the Three Angels
Broadcasting Network
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and we just happened to have,
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well, we can call them
guests but brothers and sisters,
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and we'll start with
Sandra, Dr. Sandra Duran.
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And then also of
course, Dan Houghton.
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And, Dan, you've been on
almost much as I have on 3ABN.
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Over the years Dan's
been on, Dan's been on a lot,
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but the program today that
we're gonna be talking about
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is Three Angels
Messages for Kids.
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And so you can imagine that
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we're here at 3ABN
we're all excited about it,
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and we're proud
of what you're doing
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because that's
where our name originated.
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And we'll call
you Sandy now, okay?
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Instead of
doctor, we could do that,
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but I'm
intimidated by doctor profile,
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just call you,
Sandy, that'd be fine.
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Fine.
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Now, before I go
any further though,
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Sandy, let's
talk about who she is.
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Okay.
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Now, she made
somebody very well-known.
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She has a brother. That's right.
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Now you probably
never heard of him
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but your brother is Mark Finley.
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So if those who
never heard of Mark Finley,
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this is his famous sister.
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That's right though.
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That's way it's gonna
be from now on after this.
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After this program,
they're gonna be saying,
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oh, yeah, let's see Mark.
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Isn't your sister Sandra?
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You know, that's
way they'll do it.
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But, so we're very
thankful that you're here.
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And the project
that you're doing on
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Three Angels Messages
For Kids is incredible
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but when we started
a network, you know,
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37 years ago, I had
this was looking for a name,
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dreamed about
it and in the dream
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I saw the world
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and I saw three
angels flying around it
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and basically it was like
Three Angels Broadcasting,
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each angel was
blowing a trumpet.
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So it was Three
Angels Broadcasting
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and to tell you the truth,
Dan, and you knew me back then.
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I did.
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We met in 1985
when I was telling them
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Big Sky Montana
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when I was
trying to tell the story
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and you were recording it.
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And Dan and Karen had
their little cassettes players.
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We recorded this testimony
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the first time
he gave it at ASI.
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That's right ever, 1985.
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He said he heard
it back too one time.
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On either never supported me.
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When I heard that I said,
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oh boy, I will never
swear, had to been the Lord.
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But you know,
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there was a
miracle in that, Dan.
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Just got to comment on,
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that was supposed
to have been free time
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that Friday afternoon.
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And a lady came up
with Danny and said,
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"I want to hear
this man's testimony,
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but I want a recording of it."
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You remember that? Okay.
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And I said,
"Yeah, we can do that,"
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because there's not a
meeting on Friday afternoon
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and we'll just go in
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and because I had the PA system,
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I had the recording system.
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And so we made
arrangements and then it rained.
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And 250 people show up to here
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you record for that one lady
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and that tape went wild
and that started things off.
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It was a tremendous,
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you know to
catapult us out there
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so people knew who we were.
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And so incredible so thank
you and that just moved on.
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Well, I just was
in the right place
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the right time like you have.
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The tape went around the world,
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but I was
impressed to build a station
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called Three
Angels Broadcasting.
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But I didn't really I was a
Seventh-day Adventist raised,
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my mother became an
Adventist when I was...
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When actually
the year I was born.
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That was 1951.
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I don't mind
telling I'm proud of it,
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you know, 1951
year I was born, and,
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so I was raised in
Adventist but I could have,
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you know, argued with
people about the Sabbath.
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I use that word argue
or the state of the dead
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or debated them but
really the three angels,
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I just didn't
really catch all of that.
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Yeah.
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So once I was
impressed to build a station
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and named Three Angels,
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I said I better study
the Three Angels' Messages
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and then, of course, I
found it's all about Jesus
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and His love for fallen man.
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And so that's
what it's all about.
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Amen.
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And nobody does present that
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better than your
brother Mark Finley,
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so we're so thankful
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we've working with
Mark all these years
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and now I'm glad that
we get to work with you.
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Yeah, now we're
doing it for kids.
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That's right. So a little bit...
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Why don't we, we're
just gonna get into it.
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Maybe, Dan, tell us how
this project got started
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and how Sandra got
involved, and all that?
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I'll do that,
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but the first
thing you got to say,
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Danny, I am so excited
about what's happening.
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That I want you to
know I wore my happy socks.
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Here's my happy socks
if the camera sees that.
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Okay, here we go.
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I just want you to know
that I am extremely happy.
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I don't know if
you can see that.
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Oh, there they are.
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All right. They got it.
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There you go. They got it.
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But I am so happy and
excited about what is happening.
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Now I'll tell you
where this started.
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There was a, you
know, a group of people that
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started to come together
because our friend Rusty McKee
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had been getting
honest about hey,
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we got to do something on
the Three Angels' Messages.
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At ASI in 2018,
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and you weren't there
but you were watching live.
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I remember because we
actually had the posters,
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we decided to send
posters to every classroom.
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And you have those,
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I saw them back
here in the studio.
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We had that and
it's the first time
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I can ever remember and
I've been to ASI every year
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since '83 until this year.
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This is the first
year Karen and I missed.
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But that was the first time
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I've ever remembered
people rushing the stage.
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When we finished that
basically Rusty and Mark Finley
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and myself were
interviewed by Steve
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onstage Sabbath
afternoon, the stage was rushed,
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we were done and they
wanted to see the pictures.
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And we said okay,
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if we're gonna
put these in schools.
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The next thing we need
to have some curriculum.
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And so we began a process
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and we had several
people get involved,
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good people that
were helping us get going,
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but it just wasn't
quite jelling right.
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We had to connect
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with the North American Division
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that wanted all
the schools to have it.
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And after we had gone for about,
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oh, probably nine months or
so we were wrestling with it
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and Mark Finley,
Sandy's brother was out
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in California
with us for an event.
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He had written the 13
presentations that later
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became three cosmic messages,
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which we recorded here
in partnership with him.
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And at that
time, we were saying,
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what are we gonna do
to get a curriculum done?
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And it just so happened,
he said, you know, Sandy,
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my sister is a
curriculum specialist
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in Adventist education
has written curriculum,
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has been an educator, as
a teacher, as a principal,
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as an education superintendent,
has written curriculums.
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And so we got on
the phone with her
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over the next couple of days.
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And we've been talking with her
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and she was at a
point in her life,
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kind of a transitionary point
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and so we said, hey,
what would you think about
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joining our team at
Heart Research Center
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and helping us found
a new ministry called
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Three Angels for Kids?
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That would actually take
the Three Angels' Messages
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and make it
available in schools.
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Danny, just like
you said, you grew up
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in the Adventist
Church, but you didn't know it.
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Not really.
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And there's a lot of kids today,
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how do they, how
are they gonna know
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what's going on?
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And so basically, we
sat down and started talking
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and Sandy will tell you
some of her responses to that.
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But bottom line, she's here
so, you know, she said, yes.
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But she started with
a blank piece of paper.
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And we created
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what we're gonna share
with you today from scratch.
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And I will just tell you,
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I'm so gratified
with the responses
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we're getting from
schools around North America,
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and even there are places,
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there are people you'll
hear as we talk about this,
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people from around the world,
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we have people signing
up and taking classes on
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Hope Lives 365
website from around the world.
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Two hundred and fifty I
think were the last time
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we had 250 people participating.
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So we just since it's
really, really awesome,
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but you know, I
wanna say one thing
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before we jump into this
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because I'm afraid we
won't have time at the end
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if I don't do it now.
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Can I do that? Sure.
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We also were on
here with you shortly
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after we did the four posters.
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Right.
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And I had, if you
remember that interview,
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you're both doing
the same interview,
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we had Larry Blackmer
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from North American
Division Office of Education
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plus a couple teachers.
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Well, we had been talking
about trying to get art up,
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while we actually created
a series of seven paintings
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with Nathan Green on
the days of creation.
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You also have a set of
those up here back in the hall.
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Beautiful.
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Well, we had a donor, some donor
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I should say some
donors that came and said,
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we would like to make
those available in schools
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because there's a
group of us that say,
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we've got to get
our kids thinking,
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there's so many
things to distract them.
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We've got to get them
visually engaged in thinking
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about such things
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as Three Angels'
Messages and Creation
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which is a part of
Three Angels' Messages.
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So what we have done
is we've made an offer
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and we partnered with
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the North American
Division Education.
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They sent a letter
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out to every teacher
a year and a half ago.
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And we said, if you
want to write a little essay,
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that about why
creation is important.
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We will give you a
set of these nice chalets
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in a floating frame
ready to hang on the wall.
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We've had 220 of those hung,
and I think they have pictures,
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like you'll see
those on the screen now.
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These are a few of the schools
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that have sent us
back pictures of what
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this how they've
done it in their schools.
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Well, one of the things
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I just want to
say here today is that
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we have just made arrangements
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for an additional
125 sets of these.
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And I wanna give your viewers
an opportunity to say, call...
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If you have a church school
in your area call and say,
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hey, do we have
this set of pictures
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and if you don't be aware
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that there's an email coming
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from your
educational superintendent.
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It's gonna give
you an opportunity
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and the first 125
schools that respond and do the,
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write the essay are
gonna get these free
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to hang in their schools.
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We happen to have
this church school here.
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Yes, we do. Inside tract.
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Well, you're one
of the first to know,
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but I want people
to ask the teachers,
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ask their
principal, do we have it?
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If we don't, we need it.
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And it's available at no cost.
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Take just a
moment for our viewers
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who are not familiar who...
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I didn't paint these
pictures. I didn't do them,
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who, tell us a
little bit about the artist?
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Nathan Green is
an incredible artist.
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And he paints, in fact,
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there's a picture
right over here that
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is one of his in your studio.
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Nathan specializes in
bringing things to life
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out of Scripture especially,
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and the Lamb of God
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which is the one you
have drawn on the wall.
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But he was commissioned
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about five years ago,
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little over five years ago
to create the days of creation,
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one for every day.
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And he has become
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one of the
preeminent artists in the world.
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Top three in inspirational art
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and he went from in
the last 25-30 years
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he has gone from
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doing illustrations to being
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one of the finest
fine art painters.
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And he did these seven
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and we didn't even
realize this is how God works.
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We didn't realize
we were gonna be doing
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the Three Angels'
Messages project after this.
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And now it was all
ready to go when we needed it.
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And they are out there,
we have them in our colleges,
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all of our
universities have access
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to them in a larger format.
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But we're trying to
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draw people's
attention to creation
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because that's in the
first angel's message.
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Right, yes, yes.
But it'd be okay.
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I'm sorry. That's okay.
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I was just gonna
say would it be okay
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for our viewers,
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'cause most of
our viewers worldwide
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are not part of the
Seventh-day Adventist Church,
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probably we're guessing
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95, 98% of our
worldwide viewers.
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Sure.
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But the Three Angels
Messages short in a nutshell,
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found in Revelation 14.
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And so, let me do
this in a sentence or two,
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it's an end times
message to the world
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about what's gonna happen.
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You can have peace in
the midst of the storm
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if you understand the
Three Angels' Message,
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it's God's love story.
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He's giving you in advance
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so you can see into
the future, and no matter.
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So I tell people and I've
been telling them for years,
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they'll say,
talk about the times
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we're living in
and all of these things
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and I say, I'm not concerned,
I've read the back of the book.
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Said, I've read Revelation,
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I've read the
Three Angels' Messages.
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So you may wanna look into that.
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We have information here.
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You're gonna get a
lot of information today
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because it's a love message,
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a warning message to
a lost and dying world.
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But it gives each
and every one of us
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lets us know God loves
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and cares and has a plan for us
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to spend eternity with Him
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and is one of the
most beautiful messages
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in all the world
because it's really Jesus.
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And Jesus is telling
us in beautiful terms.
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So I love the
Three Angels' Messages.
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As I said, I used to,
I didn't know about that,
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I could knew about dark,
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but to see the love of God
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and how He would foretell that.
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So that we now
living in the end times
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can look at and say,
wow, thank you Jesus.
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Well, Danny,
just response to that.
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That's what this
project is all about.
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We want kids
being able to understand
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that the back of the
book is filled with hope.
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All right.
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And we're very excited
about what's happened and,
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and maybe Sandy,
whenever you're ready,
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she can share how she responded
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when we challenged
her with this idea.
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Okay. Okay.
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Go ahead. Yes.
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So I didn't expect
to get this phone call.
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And when I got it
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and I was asked to
write this curriculum,
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my first thought was, I
don't know if I can do this.
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I mean, to write the
Three Angels' Messages
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for kindergarteners
and all the way up.
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I was going to
actually turn it down.
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And then I said
let me pray about this,
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and I prayed about it.
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And that night
when I was sleeping,
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a little poem came into my head.
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Okay.
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And when I woke
up, I grabbed a pencil
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and I wrote it down
exactly how God gave it to me
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and it became our first book,
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and we have a
picture of it here that
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we can show you.
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That's the cover and
then we have a picture
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of the inside of it.
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But I literally,
Danny, I wrote it down exactly
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how God gave it to
me in word for word.
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That's this book
and kids now love it.
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And we actually have a videotape
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of a couple of kids
that when their school
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and you want to
tell about their school,
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Dan came on this school
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and the kids had
already memorized it.
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They were so excited.
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Whole first grade, the
whole kindergarten class
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had memorized the entire book,
and they recited it for us.
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You'll see this
here, by the way,
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this is the
Greenville Adventist Academy
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in Greenville, Tennessee.
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They're teaching
it from K through 12.
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Oh, it's great. Yeah,
so we'll show the video.
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All right.
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And that was my
sign from God that,
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yeah, you can do this,
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because He just
gave me that exact poem.
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So I don't know if
they wanna put it up.
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And you can see a little video.
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Three angels in the sky.
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Oh my.
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Oh my. Oh my.
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Ready?
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Let's see, again, my story.
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First Angel, give God the glory.
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He's always fair
and good and true.
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He'll do what's
right for me and you.
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He maybe is in an outer space.
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Now go and tell in every place.
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Second Angel, the
city's going down,
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watch out, be
safe, get out of town.
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Third Angel, be patient,
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trust Jesus in
light and in dark,
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He'll always protect
you like Noah in the ark.
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Three angels in the sky to
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show the love of God on high.
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And when their
stories said and done,
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we'll all look up
and see God's Son.
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So how can I say no to
God when He gave me that?
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Good.
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I just wrote it
down word for word
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and it just turned into the book
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and now kids are all loving it.
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So I said, "Okay, God,
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I will do this but
you have to lead me,"
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you know, of course.
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And so every time
I wrote something,
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I didn't know what I
was gonna write next.
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I didn't wanna
know, it was too scary.
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I mean, pre K, it
turned out to be pre K
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through senior
year in high school.
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I mean, our final unit,
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we teach the kids
how to be an evangelist,
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and they go out and
teach this themselves.
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But I didn't even do
the grade levels in order.
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Whatever God
gave me next, right?
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When I was
finishing one grade level,
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I was starting to
get really nervous.
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He put it in my head.
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And when it was time to
go back and start writing,
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I knew what I was gonna
do for the next grade level.
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Wow. Yeah. Yeah.
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Look at how God
provided for you.
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He was really giving you
that boost their faith as well,
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letting you know
that I've got you,
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I'm gonna walk you
through this whole process.
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Very validated to my faith,
to my faith personally, yes.
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And to take something
like the Three Angels' Messages
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which as Danny said,
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most people don't
know or don't even know.
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Yeah.
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And to break it down for kids
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like the city is
going down, I love that.
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I was like, what am I
gonna do for you know,
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Babylon has fallen, you know?
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And we just
teach the little ones,
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if there's
trouble get out of there.
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Exactly. Get out of there.
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If someone tries to tell you
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to break one of
God's commandments,
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get out of there.
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That's all they have
to know at that young age.
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That's right. You know?
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You know, what's
interesting to me, too,
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is our kids are being
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so indoctrinated
in public schools
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with just stuff
that is just so anti-God.
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Yes.
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And here we have something
that is so biblical that
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we can give children,
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so that they
understand what's going on.
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We're giving them truth,
counteracting the counterfeit,
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so to speak.
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Yeah. Yeah. So,
it's such a blessing.
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And, you know,
what's exciting too,
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is we had a school
that piloted everything,
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and none of their children
were Seventh-day Adventists.
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And those kids loved it
00:19:08.24\00:19:09.91
and wanted to start keeping
the Sabbath and everything,
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so it worked even for
kids who are not Adventists.
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So it's kind of an
evangelistic tool as well?
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Yeah, it is.
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So what about children
who are in public schools,
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whose parents want them
to have this curriculum?
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Is this available to
anyone? You know what?
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Now that you
should mention that,
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the ink is barely dry,
00:19:30.40\00:19:32.07
but just before I came here,
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I just finished tweaking this
00:19:33.90\00:19:35.94
to make it
really homeschool ready.
00:19:35.97\00:19:38.11
So you'll have to
watch our website.
00:19:38.14\00:19:39.87
Be sure you
subscribe to our website,
00:19:39.91\00:19:42.98
ThreeAngelsForKids.com
because we'll let you know.
00:19:43.01\00:19:45.98
But this homeschool
edition is now in production.
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It is. Praise the Lord.
00:19:48.78\00:19:50.52
We want every
child, every parent,
00:19:50.55\00:19:52.35
every grandparent
that wants to make sure
00:19:52.39\00:19:54.66
their young people you know,
00:19:54.69\00:19:56.93
in fact, the Shema, I
got to talk about the Shema.
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You know the Jewish, our
Jewish brothers and sisters
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have the Shema
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where they quote
Deuteronomy 6:4 our God is One.
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You shall love the Lord.
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The Shema for the Seventh-day
Adventist Church is fear God
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and give glory to Him,
00:20:11.74\00:20:13.07
for the hour of
His judgment has come,
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the Three Angels' Messages.
00:20:14.48\00:20:15.81
And if we want to give
our kids exposure to that,
00:20:15.84\00:20:18.85
we have created the
way for that to happen
00:20:18.88\00:20:20.88
so that they're not afraid,
00:20:20.92\00:20:22.48
they're not
freaked out about it.
00:20:22.52\00:20:23.85
Sandy will talk about that.
00:20:23.89\00:20:25.22
We're getting feedback that
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this grace filled way of
doing this which still calls
00:20:26.62\00:20:29.46
for obedience
00:20:29.49\00:20:30.83
and
understanding the big issues,
00:20:30.86\00:20:32.56
the kids are responding
and they're not afraid.
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Yes. Yes.
00:20:34.93\00:20:36.67
I've actually had teachers
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come to me when I
do teacher training.
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You know, I've
done teacher trainings
00:20:40.67\00:20:42.00
all over the NAD already
and this has just come out
00:20:42.04\00:20:44.57
and there's such a big interest.
00:20:44.61\00:20:46.34
I've had teachers
come to me in tears saying,
00:20:46.37\00:20:48.48
"I wish we had this
when I was younger."
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You know because some people
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have grown up with a
fear about it, you know?
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I actually created
a mission statement,
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if you want to put
that up to remind myself
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why I'm doing it.
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And so my mission, I'm
here to help students be
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ready for Jesus to come
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and to
understand last day events
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in the context
of love, not fear.
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Yes, yes.
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And people just love that.
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And we have our poster
too if you wanna take a look
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how do you teach
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the Three Angels'
Messages to children?
00:21:18.01\00:21:19.87
So if you want
to show that poster,
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I've had a lot of
people say I wish we have this
00:21:21.98\00:21:25.68
for adults you know, so
it's very basic you know.
00:21:25.71\00:21:29.65
Angel one, I don't
know can you read it there,
00:21:29.68\00:21:31.45
Dan, if you want to read it?
00:21:31.49\00:21:32.82
I can't, I have
to read it clearly.
00:21:32.85\00:21:34.19
I can't see
that, I have to admit.
00:21:34.22\00:21:37.63
Danny, we thought Danny
00:21:37.66\00:21:38.99
was the only one
but I have to admit,
00:21:39.03\00:21:40.36
I can't read it like
if you have a big picture.
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Little small, I don't
think viewers can read it.
00:21:41.76\00:21:43.37
Yeah.
00:21:43.40\00:21:44.73
But you know
when we say fear God,
00:21:44.77\00:21:47.37
it doesn't mean to be
afraid of Him, of course.
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So angel one, how do you teach
00:21:49.47\00:21:50.87
the judgment to little children?
00:21:50.91\00:21:52.41
You teach the judgment,
God is always fair, trust Him,
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He will do what's right.
00:21:56.41\00:21:57.75
So it's very
broad brush you know.
00:21:57.78\00:21:59.61
Angel two,
don't listen to people
00:21:59.65\00:22:01.72
when they tell you
to do something wrong.
00:22:01.75\00:22:03.55
Angel three, use
your mind to listen
00:22:03.59\00:22:05.72
for God's voice,
use your hands to do
00:22:05.75\00:22:07.82
what God wants you to do.
00:22:07.86\00:22:09.19
Be patient, have
faith, trust Jesus.
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There's the Three
Angels' Messages for kids.
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Yes. There you go.
00:22:13.13\00:22:14.93
See that, to me this is
huge because it's a crossover,
00:22:14.96\00:22:19.57
and when I'm talking about that,
00:22:19.60\00:22:22.24
our goal and our mission
00:22:22.27\00:22:23.61
as Seventh-day
Adventist Christians
00:22:23.64\00:22:24.97
is to reach the world.
00:22:25.01\00:22:26.57
In 3ABN, we always say
00:22:26.61\00:22:27.94
with an undiluted Three
Angels' Messages one would,
00:22:27.98\00:22:30.88
that would
counteract the counterfeit.
00:22:30.91\00:22:33.18
So what you're doing
is as I mentioned earlier,
00:22:33.21\00:22:36.22
I knew about,
heard about three angels
00:22:36.25\00:22:38.49
but kind of scary,
00:22:38.52\00:22:39.99
but we actually
two or three years ago
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we commissioned some people
to do a literally a music CD.
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But one of the most well-known
00:22:48.13\00:22:51.57
would you say in America,
00:22:51.60\00:22:53.80
maybe around the world
gospel, you know, songwriters.
00:22:53.84\00:22:56.94
He said, well, I
don't know anything about,
00:22:56.97\00:22:59.11
so I want you to read it.
00:22:59.14\00:23:00.48
Now, of course, it's been,
00:23:00.51\00:23:01.84
he said just such
a beautiful message.
00:23:01.88\00:23:03.24
But here's the thing.
00:23:03.28\00:23:04.61
He said, we need this
because our churches we go
00:23:04.65\00:23:09.32
and we read
everything except that.
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We won't read
Daniel and Revelation
00:23:12.62\00:23:14.19
because it's too scary.
00:23:14.22\00:23:15.56
Right.
00:23:15.59\00:23:16.93
So what you're doing
is you're showing Jesus
00:23:16.96\00:23:19.03
in Daniel and Revelation
00:23:19.06\00:23:20.40
just like you
would get it in John.
00:23:20.43\00:23:22.83
Everybody loves,
any denomination.
00:23:22.86\00:23:24.70
They love
Matthew, Mark, Luke, John,
00:23:24.73\00:23:26.74
but Daniel and
Revelation we're scared of it.
00:23:26.77\00:23:29.07
So what you're
doing is you're centering
00:23:29.10\00:23:31.34
this all around Jesus
and His love for fallen man.
00:23:31.37\00:23:33.71
Yeah.
00:23:33.74\00:23:35.08
So to me, Dan,
this thing should be
00:23:35.11\00:23:36.95
going to church any
Christians everywhere,
00:23:36.98\00:23:40.22
I mean, we might
look at possibilities
00:23:40.25\00:23:42.95
and even do a program
of getting people involved
00:23:42.98\00:23:46.42
from other churches
00:23:46.45\00:23:47.79
because this is so
important to get it out.
00:23:47.82\00:23:49.32
I just preached a
sermon five reasons
00:23:49.36\00:23:51.36
to celebrate the judgment.
00:23:51.39\00:23:52.89
Okay. Oh, nice.
00:23:52.93\00:23:54.96
And, Danny,
you're exactly right.
00:23:55.00\00:23:56.36
We're, you know, we're trying
not to jump ahead of ourselves,
00:23:56.40\00:24:00.34
'cause we've done that
before and it's not too good.
00:24:00.37\00:24:02.84
But we think that there is
unlimited potential for this.
00:24:02.87\00:24:06.47
We're trying to get
it in our schools first,
00:24:06.51\00:24:08.18
our homeschoolers, our families
00:24:08.21\00:24:09.58
and I think there
are many Christians
00:24:09.61\00:24:12.18
who out there are saying this,
00:24:12.21\00:24:13.55
we have this but we have,
but there's something missing.
00:24:13.58\00:24:17.39
Well just maybe
we can guide them
00:24:17.42\00:24:19.65
to a little
chapter in Revelation
00:24:19.69\00:24:21.56
called Revelation 14.
00:24:21.59\00:24:23.32
Absolutely.
00:24:23.36\00:24:24.69
And we can do it
from a very basic level
00:24:24.73\00:24:26.66
for the kids that
even adults, you know,
00:24:26.70\00:24:28.80
that poster that
Sandy had up a minute ago.
00:24:28.83\00:24:30.80
That's, we boiled
it down, you know,
00:24:30.83\00:24:32.77
it takes a lot more work
to boil it down to a few words
00:24:32.80\00:24:35.70
than to expand it
with lots of words
00:24:35.74\00:24:37.41
and this boil down
00:24:37.44\00:24:39.34
and so we think that
it has huge potential
00:24:39.37\00:24:41.44
and only God knows
how far this will go.
00:24:41.48\00:24:44.38
I just wanna make sure
that we don't stand in the way.
00:24:44.41\00:24:46.35
That's right.
00:24:46.38\00:24:47.72
And their timing, you know,
00:24:47.75\00:24:49.08
it's God and like Him
impressing you to do it.
00:24:49.12\00:24:50.52
Yeah.
00:24:50.55\00:24:51.89
The reason we know
because we're excited
00:24:51.92\00:24:53.46
because this is life experiences
00:24:53.49\00:24:55.26
that we're experiencing.
00:24:55.29\00:24:56.66
There's another, I
won't give his name,
00:24:56.69\00:24:58.03
but everybody would know it.
00:24:58.06\00:24:59.49
Wonder, to me, one of
world's most renowned pianist.
00:24:59.53\00:25:03.67
And does gospel music, does,
you know, all kinds of music.
00:25:03.70\00:25:08.40
He's been talking to
us, he calls us and says,
00:25:08.44\00:25:11.11
we wanna know what's happening,
00:25:11.14\00:25:12.77
and for the
future, and he says that
00:25:12.81\00:25:15.81
we're but we're
gonna be raptured out.
00:25:15.84\00:25:17.98
We don't have to worry
about any of that, right?
00:25:18.01\00:25:19.71
And so when we give him
the news, no, it's like,
00:25:19.75\00:25:21.75
oh, no, I don't want to
go through the tribulation.
00:25:21.78\00:25:24.65
Are you kidding me?
00:25:24.69\00:25:26.02
You know, we said, "No."
00:25:26.05\00:25:27.39
So we're studying
00:25:27.42\00:25:28.76
and what we're finding
out the back of the book,
00:25:28.79\00:25:30.83
that's the most
beautiful part of it
00:25:30.86\00:25:33.13
all is knowing the future.
00:25:33.16\00:25:35.16
The Three Angels Messages
when you understand that,
00:25:35.20\00:25:38.27
now you go through
00:25:38.30\00:25:39.63
and you're not
gonna be discouraged.
00:25:39.67\00:25:41.07
If you think
you're not going through
00:25:41.10\00:25:42.64
any tribulation as soon
as the devil hits you on,
00:25:42.67\00:25:45.41
ow, this is no fun,
I'm gonna back away.
00:25:45.44\00:25:48.28
So knowing the back of
the book and reading it,
00:25:48.31\00:25:51.11
so this to me,
that's why this thing.
00:25:51.15\00:25:53.52
And, Dan, there's a reason
the Three Angels' Messages,
00:25:53.55\00:25:56.79
it's a last day warning message
00:25:56.82\00:25:58.52
to a last
generation on planet earth.
00:25:58.55\00:26:01.36
So putting it together,
00:26:01.39\00:26:02.76
whether it's
music, like we've done,
00:26:02.79\00:26:04.63
John Lomacang's
little book, this for kids.
00:26:04.66\00:26:07.36
And you did a song
for children too that
00:26:07.40\00:26:09.30
broke down the
Trinity which was really...
00:26:09.33\00:26:13.10
Music is powerful. It's amazing.
00:26:13.13\00:26:15.07
It is amazing.
00:26:15.10\00:26:16.50
The thing that is
standing out to me too,
00:26:16.54\00:26:20.24
is that you are
actually vindicating
00:26:20.28\00:26:22.54
God's character.
00:26:22.58\00:26:23.91
You're showing
who God really is.
00:26:23.95\00:26:26.65
He's not a
boogeyman. He's a God of love.
00:26:26.68\00:26:30.12
And you're
showing this to children.
00:26:30.15\00:26:31.89
You don't have
to be afraid of Him.
00:26:31.92\00:26:33.72
He loves you.
00:26:33.76\00:26:35.09
And so this is so important,
00:26:35.12\00:26:36.73
because it's
showing who God really is.
00:26:36.76\00:26:39.69
Yeah, you know, I did,
through Hope Lives 365 online.
00:26:39.73\00:26:44.20
I did a whole week of prayer
for kids around the world.
00:26:44.23\00:26:46.87
We had over 200 devices
tuning in from around the world.
00:26:46.90\00:26:50.41
And I put up some
emojis and I asked kids,
00:26:50.44\00:26:53.71
pick one that shows
00:26:53.74\00:26:55.44
how you feel
about the judgement,
00:26:55.48\00:26:56.88
and it was
anonymous, an anonymous poll,
00:26:56.91\00:26:59.18
and most children
picked the crying face.
00:26:59.21\00:27:02.85
And when I was finished
with the week of prayer,
00:27:02.88\00:27:05.15
I asked them again,
and they picked the heart.
00:27:05.19\00:27:07.19
Oh, yes, yes, yes.
00:27:07.22\00:27:10.59
The impact on kids is amazing.
00:27:10.63\00:27:12.79
And that's one thing.
00:27:12.83\00:27:14.16
You know, Sandy has been
training all these teachers.
00:27:14.20\00:27:15.90
And by the way, we
have full conferences
00:27:15.93\00:27:18.13
that are deploying this.
00:27:18.17\00:27:19.53
But not everybody is
yet because it's pretty new.
00:27:19.57\00:27:22.10
But the impact on kids
and I'm really looking forward
00:27:22.14\00:27:24.87
to her continuing
to share about that,
00:27:24.91\00:27:26.24
because we want you to see
00:27:26.27\00:27:27.61
what you saw the
kids give their recite.
00:27:27.64\00:27:30.58
But there's some other kids
00:27:30.61\00:27:31.95
that have dug into
it a little deeper,
00:27:31.98\00:27:33.31
little older,
it's pretty amazing.
00:27:33.35\00:27:34.68
Yeah. Just walk us through.
00:27:34.72\00:27:36.08
We're kind of
getting, I'm getting all.
00:27:36.12\00:27:38.15
We got a lot of information
again to through those pictures
00:27:38.19\00:27:40.86
and videos, whatever you got.
00:27:40.89\00:27:42.22
Yeah, yeah.
00:27:42.26\00:27:43.59
Let's look at the
components of what we have.
00:27:43.63\00:27:44.96
So let's take a look
at the pre K through two.
00:27:44.99\00:27:47.26
And we have beautiful artists.
00:27:47.30\00:27:48.86
This is a couple from Brazil
that is doing all our artwork,
00:27:48.90\00:27:52.60
isn't that beautiful?
00:27:52.63\00:27:53.97
So we have our two,
what we call anchor texts,
00:27:54.00\00:27:57.11
God makes a plan and
three angels in the sky
00:27:57.14\00:27:59.11
for our pre K through two.
00:27:59.14\00:28:00.71
And we actually
have them make paintings.
00:28:00.74\00:28:02.98
And we have some
pictures of the kids
00:28:03.01\00:28:04.55
when I was piloting this,
00:28:04.58\00:28:06.28
doing their
paintings, and they love it.
00:28:06.31\00:28:07.98
And we have them
do crayon resist,
00:28:08.02\00:28:10.25
and we teach them.
00:28:10.29\00:28:11.72
What does it mean to resist?
00:28:11.75\00:28:13.15
Well, I can ask you,
what does it mean to resist?
00:28:13.19\00:28:16.69
Or to avoid or... Yeah, yeah.
00:28:16.73\00:28:19.29
So if you're
doing a crayon resist,
00:28:19.33\00:28:21.96
if you do your
crayon on the paper,
00:28:22.00\00:28:24.97
and then you do
a watercolor wash,
00:28:25.00\00:28:27.60
the paper is going
to resist the crayon.
00:28:27.64\00:28:30.41
So if you make a white cloud,
00:28:30.44\00:28:31.77
you'll still see
that white cloud,
00:28:31.81\00:28:33.78
but the paper will
absorb the rest of the color.
00:28:33.81\00:28:36.44
So when we teach them that,
00:28:36.48\00:28:37.81
then we go to the
text resist the devil
00:28:37.85\00:28:39.51
and he will flee
from you and nigh to God,
00:28:39.55\00:28:41.25
He will draw nigh to you. Yes.
00:28:41.28\00:28:42.62
So we teach them.
How do you resist?
00:28:42.65\00:28:44.35
And how do you
do a crayon resist?
00:28:44.39\00:28:45.89
And they make
these beautiful books.
00:28:45.92\00:28:47.96
And it turns out
that parents love them.
00:28:47.99\00:28:49.36
They're their own.
00:28:49.39\00:28:50.73
The books are
called Three Angels for Me.
00:28:50.76\00:28:52.19
Okay.
00:28:52.23\00:28:53.56
And so they illustrate
and they make their paintings.
00:28:53.60\00:28:55.33
I had one parent that
00:28:55.36\00:28:56.70
like hugged the
book close to herself.
00:28:56.73\00:28:58.17
She said, "Oh, I'm
gonna keep this forever."
00:28:58.20\00:29:00.64
So that's something
about our pre K through two,
00:29:00.67\00:29:02.74
then take a look at
our grades three and four.
00:29:02.77\00:29:05.07
We have a story
about a little girl
00:29:05.11\00:29:07.08
by the name of Beth and her life
00:29:07.11\00:29:09.28
just keeps tying into
00:29:09.31\00:29:10.65
the Three Angels
Messages somehow.
00:29:10.68\00:29:12.51
It starts where she had been
00:29:12.55\00:29:14.58
going to the science fair
00:29:14.62\00:29:16.05
and her poster is
blown out of her hands
00:29:16.08\00:29:18.45
and she's crying
and she's embarrassed
00:29:18.49\00:29:20.16
and she doesn't
want to go back to school
00:29:20.19\00:29:21.86
because her poster is messed up.
00:29:21.89\00:29:23.69
And when she finally goes back,
00:29:23.73\00:29:25.56
the school is
clapping, what's going on?
00:29:25.59\00:29:28.00
They have retrieved the poster
and they have cleaned it up.
00:29:28.03\00:29:30.73
And the teacher says
this is a good introduction
00:29:30.77\00:29:32.93
to the Three Angels for kids.
00:29:32.97\00:29:35.50
I mean the
Three Angels Messages,
00:29:35.54\00:29:36.87
I'm saying my own,
00:29:36.91\00:29:38.24
even in my
company, I like it so much.
00:29:38.27\00:29:40.88
But anyway, she
says, "What do you mean?"
00:29:40.91\00:29:43.71
And then the teacher talks about
00:29:43.75\00:29:45.31
how Jesus takes the mistakes
00:29:45.35\00:29:47.05
that we make and
makes it beautiful again.
00:29:47.08\00:29:50.02
And then the little girl
has gotten the date wrong,
00:29:50.05\00:29:51.99
she's so, well, that's okay,
but I missed the science fair.
00:29:52.02\00:29:54.99
Oh, no, you got the date wrong.
00:29:55.02\00:29:56.49
Oh, that ties into
00:29:56.52\00:29:57.86
the Three Angels
Messages as well,
00:29:57.89\00:29:59.46
and then they talked
about the great disappointment.
00:29:59.49\00:30:01.40
So it all ties
in through the book.
00:30:01.43\00:30:03.40
And I actually have a
third and fourth grade teacher
00:30:03.43\00:30:05.40
who wanted to say,
00:30:05.43\00:30:06.84
a little
validating something here.
00:30:06.87\00:30:08.44
These are our fifth
and sixth grade materials.
00:30:08.47\00:30:10.21
But if we have the video,
00:30:10.24\00:30:11.67
we can show you the teacher
that wanted to say something
00:30:11.71\00:30:14.31
about it that
was in the pilot that
00:30:14.34\00:30:17.08
really loved it
00:30:17.11\00:30:18.45
when she taught it to
third and fourth graders.
00:30:18.48\00:30:19.88
I don't know if
you can pull that up.
00:30:19.91\00:30:21.28
Sure. Yeah, yeah.
00:30:21.32\00:30:22.65
Great. All right.
Let's take a look.
00:30:22.68\00:30:24.22
There was a lot to
love about the unit.
00:30:24.25\00:30:26.25
And I wanna start
00:30:26.29\00:30:27.62
with I loved how you
made the Three Angels; Message
00:30:27.66\00:30:30.66
accessible to children.
00:30:30.69\00:30:32.39
I felt like a lot
of them had no idea
00:30:32.43\00:30:34.50
what the Three
Angels' Message was.
00:30:34.53\00:30:36.77
When we did our
initial writing piece
00:30:36.80\00:30:39.70
where they were
supposed to talk about
00:30:39.73\00:30:41.17
the Three Angels' Message,
00:30:41.20\00:30:42.54
most of them said, I don't know.
00:30:42.57\00:30:44.37
Yesterday, we read it.
00:30:44.41\00:30:46.04
And a lot of them wrote like
00:30:46.07\00:30:48.14
almost a full page on the things
00:30:48.18\00:30:50.28
that they've learned
about Three Angels' Message.
00:30:50.31\00:30:51.98
So they were really
able to internalize it
00:30:52.01\00:30:54.72
and understand its meaning.
00:30:54.75\00:30:58.05
A couple of my
students were so excited
00:30:58.09\00:30:59.89
about the message
that they went home,
00:30:59.92\00:31:01.86
and on their own started
00:31:01.89\00:31:03.22
studying the Book of Revelation,
00:31:03.26\00:31:04.63
and specifically the
Three Angels' Message.
00:31:04.66\00:31:06.36
And then a couple of days later,
00:31:06.39\00:31:07.83
one of them came
back and he was so excited
00:31:07.86\00:31:09.73
because he went
even further and said,
00:31:09.76\00:31:11.77
"There's more,
there's more to the story."
00:31:11.80\00:31:13.74
Yeah.
00:31:13.77\00:31:15.10
And I think
that was a little boy
00:31:15.14\00:31:16.47
that was not a
Seventh-day Adventist
00:31:16.50\00:31:17.84
that was so excited.
00:31:17.87\00:31:19.21
So and by the way,
00:31:19.24\00:31:20.58
that's West Coast
Christian Academy.
00:31:20.61\00:31:22.18
That was April Noah,
third and fourth grade teacher
00:31:22.21\00:31:25.05
down in Florida, where I live.
00:31:25.08\00:31:26.41
Yeah, yeah.
00:31:26.45\00:31:27.78
And then I think they
did show you our fifth
00:31:27.82\00:31:29.62
and sixth grade materials.
00:31:29.65\00:31:30.99
So we can take a
peek at those again,
00:31:31.02\00:31:32.35
but those are booklets.
00:31:32.39\00:31:33.72
There are 10 booklets.
00:31:33.76\00:31:35.09
And they are
actually in sets of two.
00:31:35.12\00:31:37.46
And so the students
read those two booklets
00:31:37.49\00:31:40.13
and then they get a
question that has to do
00:31:40.16\00:31:41.83
with the Three Angels' Messages.
00:31:41.86\00:31:43.37
And so they tie it all together.
00:31:43.40\00:31:44.73
And you might be
interested to know
00:31:44.77\00:31:46.10
that the first booklet
Lost in the Jungle is about
00:31:46.13\00:31:49.60
my brother, Mark Finley,
00:31:49.64\00:31:51.31
when he was a
student missionary,
00:31:51.34\00:31:52.97
and he got lost in the jungle
00:31:53.01\00:31:54.34
before the days of internet
00:31:54.38\00:31:55.98
or email or texting or anything.
00:31:56.01\00:31:58.48
GPS. Exactly. Exactly.
00:31:58.51\00:32:00.58
His job as a
young student missionary
00:32:00.62\00:32:02.62
was to push
somehow to get an ambulance
00:32:02.65\00:32:05.35
through the jungle terminals.
00:32:05.39\00:32:06.72
And I mean,
00:32:06.76\00:32:08.09
they went in
the middle of places
00:32:08.12\00:32:09.46
where they were no
other human beings.
00:32:09.49\00:32:11.96
Finally, they came across
00:32:11.99\00:32:13.33
some kind of an
indigenous tribe there
00:32:13.36\00:32:15.10
and Mark did
some kind of a barter
00:32:15.13\00:32:17.50
because he hadn't
had food for days.
00:32:17.53\00:32:20.04
And so that we tie
into bringing the gospel
00:32:20.07\00:32:22.50
to the whole world.
00:32:22.54\00:32:23.87
Okay.
00:32:23.91\00:32:25.24
And then the companion piece
to that is about an older man,
00:32:25.27\00:32:28.28
Abraham LaRue, who
brought the gospel to China
00:32:28.31\00:32:30.28
and then we asked them,
00:32:30.31\00:32:31.65
what does it take
to be a missionary?
00:32:31.68\00:32:33.28
What does it take?
00:32:33.31\00:32:34.65
You know, and it's not
about age, it's for sure.
00:32:34.68\00:32:37.59
You'll notice that
there are 10 of those.
00:32:37.62\00:32:39.45
Yes. And that is
an important point.
00:32:39.49\00:32:42.12
These are set for a
two week curriculum.
00:32:42.16\00:32:44.23
Yes.
00:32:44.26\00:32:45.59
Okay So the
teacher can put these in
00:32:45.63\00:32:47.60
into many different
slots because it's gonna,
00:32:47.63\00:32:49.63
each one's gonna
take at least two weeks
00:32:49.66\00:32:51.07
sometimes they'll
stretch if they like it.
00:32:51.10\00:32:52.50
Yeah, that was good
that you brought that up.
00:32:52.53\00:32:53.87
Yeah, it's fully endorsed
00:32:53.90\00:32:55.24
by the NAD North
American Division,
00:32:55.27\00:32:57.41
sorry about the alphabet.
00:32:57.44\00:32:58.77
But it is fully endorsed by
the North American Division,
00:32:58.81\00:33:03.14
they are very excited about it.
00:33:03.18\00:33:05.21
And it's
something that a teacher
00:33:05.25\00:33:07.15
can just pick up
and for two weeks
00:33:07.18\00:33:09.35
they get a break,
00:33:09.38\00:33:10.72
they can take a breath
because we provide everything,
00:33:10.75\00:33:13.25
so it's very easy
to do it and it's nice.
00:33:13.29\00:33:16.49
Some people like to do it
00:33:16.52\00:33:17.86
right before Christmas
break or something, you know,
00:33:17.89\00:33:20.20
just to have a
little time to relax
00:33:20.23\00:33:22.73
and we give you everything.
00:33:22.76\00:33:24.10
I have a heart for teachers
00:33:24.13\00:33:25.47
because I was an associate
superintendent for 15 years,
00:33:25.50\00:33:27.54
so we give it to
you and homeschoolers
00:33:27.57\00:33:29.74
we have your
special edition as well.
00:33:29.77\00:33:32.51
If you want to take a
look at grade seven and eight,
00:33:32.54\00:33:34.54
grade seven and
eight our sponsors
00:33:34.58\00:33:36.95
said this is the grade level
we want the whole enchilada,
00:33:36.98\00:33:40.52
very, a lot of detail in here
00:33:40.55\00:33:42.75
and so we integrated
this one with social studies.
00:33:42.78\00:33:46.05
Okay.
00:33:46.09\00:33:47.42
So the students
actually do a report
00:33:47.46\00:33:50.93
where they look through
history and find a government,
00:33:50.96\00:33:54.16
a time when a government
was mixing church and state
00:33:54.20\00:33:57.47
and it didn't go well
00:33:57.50\00:33:59.50
because God is the supreme ruler
00:33:59.53\00:34:01.40
and so they do a
comparison there.
00:34:01.44\00:34:03.44
This is the complete message
in grade seven and eight.
00:34:03.47\00:34:05.77
Complete. Oh, wow.
00:34:05.81\00:34:07.14
Good.
00:34:07.18\00:34:08.51
Yeah, if you want
to show a picture,
00:34:08.54\00:34:09.88
we have a student debate
00:34:09.91\00:34:11.28
and so we have
the student's debate,
00:34:11.31\00:34:12.98
can your lawyer and your
judge be the same person?
00:34:13.01\00:34:15.48
Okay.
00:34:15.52\00:34:16.99
And then, of course,
00:34:17.02\00:34:18.49
we talk about in the
conflict of the ages,
00:34:18.52\00:34:21.76
the conflict of the
interest is the best thing
00:34:21.79\00:34:24.39
because our lawyer and our judge
00:34:24.43\00:34:25.76
is the same person,
00:34:25.79\00:34:27.13
he's on our side,
he wants us to win.
00:34:27.16\00:34:28.50
That's right.
00:34:28.53\00:34:29.86
Okay, and we have a little
clip also from a boy here.
00:34:29.90\00:34:32.53
Again, this is
West Coast Christian
00:34:32.57\00:34:34.14
where he did a
lot of our piloting
00:34:34.17\00:34:36.30
that just a short little
thing that's this little boy
00:34:36.34\00:34:39.17
has to say that
00:34:39.21\00:34:40.54
I think your
viewers will like to see.
00:34:40.58\00:34:43.55
I learned about the
Three Angels' Messages.
00:34:43.58\00:34:46.75
Now I'm ready for Jesus to come.
00:34:46.78\00:34:51.55
That's precious. Yeah, yeah.
00:34:51.59\00:34:53.49
So that's the elementary school
00:34:53.52\00:34:55.56
and then we have
grades 9 through 12.
00:34:55.59\00:34:57.86
When I finished writing
the elementary I was like,
00:34:57.89\00:34:59.23
oh my God, I'm gonna be done,
00:34:59.26\00:35:00.60
and they were like
00:35:00.63\00:35:01.96
you need to do
one for high school,
00:35:02.00\00:35:03.33
and then I started thinking,
00:35:03.37\00:35:04.70
you know, I don't even
know if I told you this,
00:35:04.73\00:35:06.07
but I thought
I'm gonna make myself
00:35:06.10\00:35:07.84
make this easier, I'll
just call it a micro unit.
00:35:07.87\00:35:09.94
Well then once I did that,
00:35:09.97\00:35:11.31
I ended up having to
write four micro units,
00:35:11.34\00:35:13.68
and then one full semester.
00:35:13.71\00:35:15.68
So the last one, we teach
you how to be an evangelist.
00:35:15.71\00:35:18.21
What I did is I took
00:35:18.25\00:35:19.58
Mark Finley's Three
Cosmic Messages book,
00:35:19.61\00:35:21.95
and I watched all his videos.
00:35:21.98\00:35:24.35
And I'm a
qualitative researcher,
00:35:24.39\00:35:26.05
that's I love
qualitative, you know,
00:35:26.09\00:35:27.42
you just kind of
look at something
00:35:27.46\00:35:28.92
and draw out your themes.
00:35:28.96\00:35:30.29
And I thought,
00:35:30.33\00:35:31.66
what is he doing to make
this effective preaching,
00:35:31.69\00:35:33.80
and then we teach
the kids, you know,
00:35:33.83\00:35:35.36
have an
awareness of your audience.
00:35:35.40\00:35:37.57
You know, all of that.
00:35:37.60\00:35:38.93
And then they go on
for and do their own
00:35:38.97\00:35:41.60
Three Cosmic
Messages evangelistic series.
00:35:41.64\00:35:43.91
So the high school is where
00:35:43.94\00:35:45.27
we do our deep
dives, deep dives.
00:35:45.31\00:35:46.78
Yeah.
00:35:46.81\00:35:48.14
There's one for every year,
00:35:48.18\00:35:49.51
plus the honors
unit is that last one,
00:35:49.54\00:35:51.68
for the serious students,
00:35:51.71\00:35:53.05
and it could actually be
a college preaching class.
00:35:53.08\00:35:56.89
Oh, yeah.
00:35:56.92\00:35:58.25
It could be a
college preaching class.
00:35:58.29\00:35:59.69
On homiletics. On homiletics.
00:35:59.72\00:36:01.22
It lays out all and
it shows video examples.
00:36:01.26\00:36:03.83
I just want to say,
00:36:03.86\00:36:05.19
Sandy has recorded
these stories and audio
00:36:05.23\00:36:06.93
so it's audio visual,
this is not just print.
00:36:06.96\00:36:08.50
Okay.
00:36:08.53\00:36:09.86
And so we will actually show
a clip out of the presentation,
00:36:09.90\00:36:13.03
we taped right here
3ABN of Mark preaching
00:36:13.07\00:36:15.44
and it'll say,
here's what he's doing.
00:36:15.47\00:36:17.64
Take note of this.
00:36:17.67\00:36:19.01
So you're gonna need
to put that component
00:36:19.04\00:36:20.38
into your presentation Nice.
00:36:20.41\00:36:21.74
And this is complete thing.
00:36:21.78\00:36:23.11
So when you're done,
00:36:23.14\00:36:24.48
we should talk to
some of the colleges
00:36:24.51\00:36:25.85
about giving some
college credit for this
00:36:25.88\00:36:27.22
because it's that good.
00:36:27.25\00:36:28.58
Oh, yeah. Wow.
00:36:28.62\00:36:29.95
Yeah, we have one
school that has done it.
00:36:29.98\00:36:33.05
Remember, you
suggested that school.
00:36:33.09\00:36:34.66
What was the
name of that school?
00:36:34.69\00:36:36.02
That school was
00:36:36.06\00:36:37.39
is one of our
supporting ministry schools,
00:36:37.43\00:36:38.76
Steve Dickman's
Academy up in Harbert Hills.
00:36:38.79\00:36:43.37
And they actually had their kids
00:36:43.40\00:36:45.13
go out train
with this and go out
00:36:45.17\00:36:46.67
and conduct evangelistic series
00:36:46.70\00:36:48.27
using those 13 presentations
from Three Cosmic Messages.
00:36:48.30\00:36:51.97
Okay.
00:36:52.01\00:36:53.34
And they have kids from
all different countries.
00:36:53.38\00:36:54.88
So they each did it
in their own language
00:36:54.91\00:36:57.35
for their language group.
00:36:57.38\00:36:58.71
Yeah. How has this impacted you?
00:36:58.75\00:37:01.12
Me personally, it's
been very faith building,
00:37:01.15\00:37:03.92
you know, and I've
had some other experiences
00:37:03.95\00:37:07.02
with building my
faith through it.
00:37:07.06\00:37:08.92
One thing was that years ago,
I wrote a little book called,
00:37:08.96\00:37:14.80
what's the second book now?
00:37:14.83\00:37:16.16
God Made the World,
00:37:16.20\00:37:17.53
God Makes a
Plan, God Makes a Plan.
00:37:17.57\00:37:19.47
And when I made that book,
00:37:19.50\00:37:20.97
I chose certain pictures only
00:37:21.00\00:37:23.27
because you know, if
you're an amateur photographer
00:37:23.30\00:37:25.21
once in a while
you get it right,
00:37:25.24\00:37:26.57
but you can't count on yourself.
00:37:26.61\00:37:27.94
Isn't that right, you know?
00:37:27.98\00:37:29.31
So I had a really
good picture of a tiger.
00:37:29.34\00:37:31.35
And I had a really
good picture of an ape.
00:37:31.38\00:37:33.35
So I put it in the book.
00:37:33.38\00:37:35.32
Apes Gazed Tigers Blazed.
00:37:35.35\00:37:39.02
Well, when we did this
program, we decided to use that
00:37:39.05\00:37:42.09
but we have a
wonderful designer,
00:37:42.12\00:37:44.49
Mark Bond is our art designer.
00:37:44.53\00:37:46.09
And so he got some really
good professional pictures.
00:37:46.13\00:37:48.96
Well, we put in some
Nathan Green pictures.
00:37:49.00\00:37:51.27
And if you look
at those pictures
00:37:51.30\00:37:53.10
that you have there on the wall,
00:37:53.13\00:37:55.20
and God is making man who
is looking on at the side,
00:37:55.24\00:37:59.67
on one side is an ape,
and on one side is a tiger.
00:37:59.71\00:38:03.14
And here years ago, I
wrote this little book
00:38:03.18\00:38:06.35
and it said Apes
Gazed Tigers Blazed.
00:38:06.38\00:38:08.72
And God was preparing for that.
00:38:08.75\00:38:10.82
So there were so many things.
00:38:10.85\00:38:12.55
And since you asked that,
00:38:12.59\00:38:13.96
I do wanna tell you another one
00:38:13.99\00:38:15.42
that happened was
when I wrote the book
00:38:15.46\00:38:16.83
about the little girl,
her life keeps becoming
00:38:16.86\00:38:19.96
like something connected
to the Three Angels' Messages.
00:38:20.00\00:38:24.20
I thought, I wanna have her dad
00:38:24.23\00:38:26.27
the police officer
with a Sabbath problem,
00:38:26.30\00:38:29.07
you know, somebody.
00:38:29.10\00:38:30.61
And I remembered
that 30 years before
00:38:30.64\00:38:33.11
at least 30 years before my...
00:38:33.14\00:38:34.71
I guess I'm
giving away my age here.
00:38:34.74\00:38:36.88
But there you go.
Now it's out there.
00:38:36.91\00:38:39.45
You're among friends. Right.
00:38:39.48\00:38:43.12
My husband's a pastor
and a member of his church
00:38:43.15\00:38:47.39
was a police officer
with a Sabbath problem.
00:38:47.42\00:38:49.32
And again, this would always
00:38:49.36\00:38:50.69
come to my head in the
night when I was sleeping.
00:38:50.73\00:38:52.69
So the next
morning, I said, Eric,
00:38:52.73\00:38:54.30
do you happen to remember
00:38:54.33\00:38:55.66
when you had this police officer
00:38:55.70\00:38:57.13
that had Sabbath problems?
00:38:57.17\00:38:58.63
And his jaw was to
the floor? I said, what?
00:38:58.67\00:39:01.10
And he said, I
have not thought about
00:39:01.14\00:39:02.64
that for decades but
yesterday I found the file.
00:39:02.67\00:39:05.61
He gave me the
file that thick. Wow.
00:39:05.64\00:39:08.88
And I went through
all of that paperwork
00:39:08.91\00:39:11.21
and wrote that chapter.
00:39:11.25\00:39:13.05
So those are
three different things
00:39:13.08\00:39:14.62
that I've told you today.
00:39:14.65\00:39:15.98
So it's been
very faith building.
00:39:16.02\00:39:17.35
It's been very humbling.
00:39:17.39\00:39:19.05
I tend to be an
extrovert and I said,
00:39:19.09\00:39:20.66
it's all Dan's
fault, I was quarantined
00:39:20.69\00:39:22.49
before it was even a thing.
00:39:22.52\00:39:24.39
Yes, I've been
in a chair writing.
00:39:24.43\00:39:26.09
An extrovert or introvert?
00:39:26.13\00:39:27.46
No I'm a natural extrovert,
00:39:27.50\00:39:29.03
and I've been
writing for years now.
00:39:29.06\00:39:32.13
She's been behind
that screen, look at that.
00:39:32.17\00:39:33.64
Yeah.
00:39:33.67\00:39:35.00
Before the
pandemic even happened,
00:39:35.04\00:39:36.81
I was quarantined
because I was writing.
00:39:36.84\00:39:38.47
So it's been very humbling.
00:39:38.51\00:39:41.48
Because it's
like, okay, you know,
00:39:41.51\00:39:43.18
you're just behind the
scenes, writing, just be good,
00:39:43.21\00:39:46.31
just do it or
get out of the chair.
00:39:46.35\00:39:48.68
God's got a work
for you to do so.
00:39:48.72\00:39:50.69
So that's been, you know,
00:39:50.72\00:39:52.62
quite an interesting part of it.
00:39:52.65\00:39:55.39
But we've had a big interest
not just among church schools
00:39:55.42\00:39:57.89
has been, you know,
00:39:57.93\00:39:59.26
we've had the
home school market.
00:39:59.29\00:40:00.86
We even have some
pictures of homeschoolers.
00:40:00.90\00:40:03.30
And you know,
this has gone so well.
00:40:03.33\00:40:05.30
These are
actually the grandchildren
00:40:05.33\00:40:07.10
of our project assistant,
this has gone so well.
00:40:07.14\00:40:09.54
We've hired Yvette Cooper
to be our project assistant
00:40:09.57\00:40:13.34
and her daughter, Ninea,
homeschools her children.
00:40:13.38\00:40:16.28
And so we wanted to show
00:40:16.31\00:40:17.65
these little
homeschool children,
00:40:17.68\00:40:19.01
you see the little
one and all of that.
00:40:19.05\00:40:20.98
Yeah, so we have
a very big interest.
00:40:21.02\00:40:23.65
And again, we have
our online classes,
00:40:23.69\00:40:28.36
we have our North
American Division endorsements.
00:40:28.39\00:40:31.39
So it's just going
in so many directions.
00:40:31.43\00:40:33.60
I don't know,
00:40:33.63\00:40:34.96
should we tell him
about the animations at all?
00:40:35.00\00:40:36.56
Well, we can do
that in just a second.
00:40:36.60\00:40:37.93
Before we get the animations,
00:40:37.97\00:40:39.30
I think it would be
cool to just talk about
00:40:39.33\00:40:41.07
the different
experiences you've had, Sandy,
00:40:41.10\00:40:43.30
in the different conferences
00:40:43.34\00:40:45.41
where you've been
working with teachers.
00:40:45.44\00:40:46.78
Give a few reports
on a couple of teachers?
00:40:46.81\00:40:48.44
Yes, yes, yes.
00:40:48.48\00:40:49.81
That has been very exciting.
00:40:49.84\00:40:51.28
You know, with the pandemic,
00:40:51.31\00:40:52.68
there has been a
different kind of response.
00:40:52.71\00:40:55.28
How do you do these trainings,
but some ways, you know,
00:40:55.32\00:40:57.99
it works out better,
00:40:58.02\00:40:59.35
because you can do
more maybe than you could.
00:40:59.39\00:41:01.12
But I've done some in person.
00:41:01.16\00:41:03.73
And we've done some
Zoom meetings with teachers.
00:41:03.76\00:41:06.96
And we do, people
are very grateful,
00:41:07.00\00:41:09.23
they are thanking me,
00:41:09.26\00:41:10.60
you know, every time I do this,
and actually we do have a video
00:41:10.63\00:41:14.27
of myself doing a Zoom.
00:41:14.30\00:41:16.84
And this was in the
Southwest Regional Conference
00:41:16.87\00:41:19.67
and the Southwest
Regional Conference.
00:41:19.71\00:41:21.98
I really have
to hand it to them,
00:41:22.01\00:41:23.45
because they got behind this.
00:41:23.48\00:41:25.55
This was Buford
Griffith, he's from Montana.
00:41:25.58\00:41:27.95
Do you know him? I
was in college with him.
00:41:27.98\00:41:29.55
Oh, my goodness.
He's a go-getter.
00:41:29.58\00:41:31.15
He jumped right on
this thing. I tell you what?
00:41:31.19\00:41:33.72
And he said, we're gonna do it,
00:41:33.76\00:41:35.09
we're gonna do it for everybody.
00:41:35.12\00:41:36.46
We're gonna do
a conference wide,
00:41:36.49\00:41:37.89
every teacher is gonna
start the school year for this.
00:41:37.93\00:41:40.33
Not only that,
00:41:40.36\00:41:41.73
he said we're gonna
get the pastors involved.
00:41:41.76\00:41:44.57
So he said,
because they're gonna need
00:41:44.60\00:41:46.67
to work with
people and so the pastors
00:41:46.70\00:41:49.34
and the teachers came
on Zoom and you know what?
00:41:49.37\00:41:52.64
That was for a
whole day practically.
00:41:52.67\00:41:55.24
Because what I did was
we had everybody together,
00:41:55.28\00:41:58.25
I gave him the philosophy.
00:41:58.28\00:41:59.61
I gave him the overview,
00:41:59.65\00:42:00.98
and then, okay, pre
K through two stay on.
00:42:01.02\00:42:03.15
And we worked with them.
00:42:03.18\00:42:04.52
We put them in
separate Zoom rooms.
00:42:04.55\00:42:06.76
They got involved
in different activities
00:42:06.79\00:42:09.19
we had them do,
and then we would have
00:42:09.22\00:42:11.63
the third and fourth graders.
00:42:11.66\00:42:13.03
Yeah, so we do have the clip.
00:42:13.06\00:42:14.66
Yeah. We should see that.
00:42:14.70\00:42:16.03
The pastor that was
validating this whole thing.
00:42:16.06\00:42:19.40
Good.
00:42:19.43\00:42:20.77
Elder Griffin, can
I say real quick, man,
00:42:20.80\00:42:22.90
I really enjoyed
the presentation.
00:42:22.94\00:42:24.97
I think this is fantastic.
00:42:25.01\00:42:27.18
I can't say enough
about it in terms of the value
00:42:27.21\00:42:30.38
it would be for us in
children's ministries.
00:42:30.41\00:42:33.31
And I suspect that it's
because it's contextualized
00:42:33.35\00:42:36.69
for the kids is gonna
benefit a lot of adults too,
00:42:36.72\00:42:39.65
because they'll work their way
00:42:39.69\00:42:42.12
with progressive revelation
from understanding the basics,
00:42:42.16\00:42:47.00
moving on up so much
success to this program.
00:42:47.03\00:42:50.10
Amen. Yeah.
00:42:50.13\00:42:51.63
That used to be my
conference when I was in Dallas.
00:42:51.67\00:42:53.07
Is that right? Yeah.
00:42:53.10\00:42:54.44
Wow.
00:42:54.47\00:42:55.80
And we were pretty impressed
with how they jumped on this.
00:42:55.84\00:42:58.37
They recognize you
when you do something
00:42:58.41\00:43:00.61
like this you
really appreciate it
00:43:00.64\00:43:02.04
when someone
recognizes what it is,
00:43:02.08\00:43:04.41
and they did.
00:43:04.45\00:43:05.78
Yeah. Now there's been others.
00:43:05.81\00:43:07.15
I mean, I look at North Pacific,
00:43:07.18\00:43:08.55
I look at you know,
00:43:08.58\00:43:10.09
different areas
around our country.
00:43:10.12\00:43:12.82
And teachers, I've...
00:43:12.85\00:43:14.19
Sandy will tell
me about the teachers
00:43:14.22\00:43:15.56
and sometimes I
will have opportunity
00:43:15.59\00:43:16.93
to hear from them.
00:43:16.96\00:43:18.29
And it's just like, finally,
00:43:18.33\00:43:19.66
we have something that is
00:43:19.69\00:43:21.03
within our own belief structure.
00:43:21.06\00:43:23.20
We're not having
to rewrite something
00:43:23.23\00:43:24.70
somebody else did somewhere.
00:43:24.73\00:43:26.13
And this is talking
about the core issue.
00:43:26.17\00:43:27.54
Yeah.
00:43:27.57\00:43:28.90
And so that has
been very rewarding to me
00:43:28.94\00:43:30.27
and I noticed Sandy as well.
00:43:30.31\00:43:31.84
Yeah, something else I did,
00:43:31.87\00:43:34.01
because I have a
heart for teachers
00:43:34.04\00:43:35.78
and I have a heart for
teaching children to read.
00:43:35.81\00:43:38.71
You know, I never
planned on getting a doctorate
00:43:38.75\00:43:41.65
or anything like
that in our family.
00:43:41.68\00:43:43.15
My dad was actually
a high school dropout,
00:43:43.18\00:43:46.42
because he was
just passed around
00:43:46.45\00:43:48.82
from relative to relative,
00:43:48.86\00:43:50.19
he went to 17
schools in 11 years,
00:43:50.23\00:43:52.49
had a very hard background.
00:43:52.53\00:43:53.86
But then he started
00:43:53.90\00:43:55.23
his own business and everything.
00:43:55.26\00:43:56.60
But I never planned
on getting a doctorate.
00:43:56.63\00:43:59.00
But it turned out that
00:43:59.03\00:44:00.67
my own son was
struggling to read
00:44:00.70\00:44:03.04
and I was trying to
figure my own son out.
00:44:03.07\00:44:05.21
And that's why I
went and ended up
00:44:05.24\00:44:07.21
getting a degree
in special education
00:44:07.24\00:44:08.98
on the doctoral level.
00:44:09.01\00:44:10.55
So I just have
this passion for kids
00:44:10.58\00:44:13.01
that are trying to learn to read
00:44:13.05\00:44:14.38
and teachers that
are trying to figure out
00:44:14.42\00:44:15.85
what to do about it.
00:44:15.88\00:44:17.49
So there is curriculum
embedded in this is the Bible
00:44:17.52\00:44:22.02
and teaching children to read
00:44:22.06\00:44:23.79
and teaching children to become
better writers is all in it.
00:44:23.83\00:44:26.76
And when I did the
third and fourth grade,
00:44:26.80\00:44:28.63
you know I'm coming along,
I had the idea for this book,
00:44:28.66\00:44:31.33
God put it in my mind.
00:44:31.37\00:44:32.93
In fact, I'm writing a sequel
now that He put in my mind.
00:44:32.97\00:44:36.07
I got about five chapters in
00:44:36.10\00:44:37.77
and God said,
you know what, Sandy?
00:44:37.81\00:44:40.11
There could be
some kids in that class
00:44:40.14\00:44:41.74
that are struggling readers.
00:44:41.78\00:44:43.58
I thought now
what am I going to do
00:44:43.61\00:44:45.18
and I was using a tool.
00:44:45.21\00:44:46.85
It's called
Flesch-Kincaid that you can put
00:44:46.88\00:44:49.55
any piece of writing in
and see what grade level
00:44:49.58\00:44:51.69
you're writing at.
00:44:51.72\00:44:53.05
And the reason I was
using it. I don't wanna do that.
00:44:53.09\00:44:56.73
I better be aware what she said.
00:44:56.76\00:44:58.79
Don't be looking me in my
book, and grade in on that.
00:44:58.83\00:45:01.60
What would be your guess?
00:45:01.63\00:45:02.96
What do you think that like,
00:45:03.00\00:45:04.33
Reader's Digest or
something like that?
00:45:04.37\00:45:05.70
What do you think
the average reading level
00:45:05.73\00:45:07.07
for the average person is on?
00:45:07.10\00:45:09.00
That's like a grade level now?
00:45:09.04\00:45:10.37
Yeah. What grade
level do you think?
00:45:10.41\00:45:11.74
Like six to eight or
something. Yeah, exactly.
00:45:11.77\00:45:14.04
Good for you. Yeah. Yeah.
00:45:14.08\00:45:15.61
Like Reader's Digest anything
like that is the seventh grade,
00:45:15.64\00:45:18.38
seventh grade reading level
is what's pitched to anything.
00:45:18.41\00:45:21.32
For adults there's usually
some grade reading level.
00:45:21.35\00:45:23.08
I haven't been reading
that Reader's Digest lately.
00:45:23.12\00:45:26.86
But your average magazine
or something seventh grade.
00:45:26.89\00:45:28.69
Yeah.
00:45:28.72\00:45:30.06
So anyway, you know,
00:45:30.09\00:45:31.43
how do I write
something for third and fourth?
00:45:31.46\00:45:33.09
So what I did was,
00:45:33.13\00:45:34.76
I read a lot of
books on third and fourth.
00:45:34.80\00:45:36.33
So I was thinking like that.
00:45:36.36\00:45:38.27
And then I
would write a chapter,
00:45:38.30\00:45:39.73
then I would put it
into Flesch-Kincaid,
00:45:39.77\00:45:41.40
and it would tell
me like 3.2, okay,
00:45:41.44\00:45:43.77
I'm on, that's
third grade, second month.
00:45:43.81\00:45:46.01
But if it was too high,
00:45:46.04\00:45:47.71
then you'd have
to do two things,
00:45:47.74\00:45:49.08
you have to take
the vocabulary down,
00:45:49.11\00:45:50.71
and you have to take
the sentence structure down.
00:45:50.75\00:45:53.21
And then if it was too
low, you have to bring it up.
00:45:53.25\00:45:55.48
So I did that for five chapters.
00:45:55.52\00:45:57.19
And the Lord said, well, Sandy,
00:45:57.22\00:45:58.55
you got to write it
on a lower reading level.
00:45:58.59\00:46:00.19
Now I'm like, it was bad as Dan,
00:46:00.22\00:46:02.32
give me trained literature.
00:46:02.36\00:46:05.13
So when I did, I wrote
those first five chapters
00:46:05.16\00:46:08.10
on a second grade reading level,
00:46:08.13\00:46:09.86
I kept getting it down
to very basic vocabulary.
00:46:09.90\00:46:13.27
And then after that, the
book is 20 chapters long,
00:46:13.30\00:46:16.00
every time I did a chapter,
I did it in third and fourth,
00:46:16.04\00:46:18.81
and I did in second grade.
00:46:18.84\00:46:20.38
Well, then the
Lord said that, Sandy,
00:46:20.41\00:46:21.78
there could be some
gifted readers in that class.
00:46:21.81\00:46:24.18
I was like, oh, so then
I wrote it a third time.
00:46:24.21\00:46:27.75
So if you order our third
and fourth grade curriculum,
00:46:27.78\00:46:30.85
it's written on a
second grade reading level,
00:46:30.89\00:46:32.82
it's written on a third
and fourth grade reading level,
00:46:32.85\00:46:34.82
it's written on fifth and sixth.
00:46:34.86\00:46:36.19
So those multi grade,
I've had multi grades,
00:46:36.22\00:46:38.86
somebody in a one rates,
one room, say it for me one...
00:46:38.89\00:46:42.36
One room schoolhouse. Thank you.
00:46:42.40\00:46:44.97
Did that curriculum,
and every kid loved it,
00:46:45.00\00:46:47.34
like they get so
excited about it.
00:46:47.37\00:46:49.60
In those booklets
for grades five and six,
00:46:49.64\00:46:52.01
it's the same thing.
00:46:52.04\00:46:53.38
They're written on
three different reading levels
00:46:53.41\00:46:55.24
inside the booklets.
00:46:55.28\00:46:56.61
And the reason
teachers like it is that
00:46:56.64\00:46:58.91
they don't have to give you
a different passage to read,
00:46:58.95\00:47:01.52
we can all talk
about the same material,
00:47:01.55\00:47:03.62
it's accessible to everybody.
00:47:03.65\00:47:05.15
Yes. My brain is
kind of, going...
00:47:05.19\00:47:08.29
You know, I'm thinking
about... Try Writer's Ally.
00:47:08.32\00:47:10.56
On the literacy thing.
00:47:10.59\00:47:12.83
Oh, man.
00:47:12.86\00:47:15.43
If you can't read,
you can't do anything.
00:47:15.46\00:47:16.90
Exactly. So this is so critical.
00:47:16.93\00:47:19.57
I'm thinking about people
00:47:19.60\00:47:20.94
who are incarcerated
who can't really read,
00:47:20.97\00:47:23.44
who would benefit so
beautifully from this on
00:47:23.47\00:47:27.11
so many different levels,
00:47:27.14\00:47:28.48
like you can start
them out at a lower level.
00:47:28.51\00:47:31.71
So I mean, this
could be an amazing.
00:47:31.75\00:47:33.35
We think, Yvonne,
00:47:33.38\00:47:35.22
we think there are
many different applications
00:47:35.25\00:47:37.95
as example some that
have already happened.
00:47:37.99\00:47:39.49
We have a school in Madison,
00:47:39.52\00:47:40.86
Tennessee, and
our academy there.
00:47:40.89\00:47:42.32
They decided this
summer to make it the VBS.
00:47:42.36\00:47:44.59
They crafted it and made it
00:47:44.63\00:47:45.96
a VBS program, Sabbath schools.
00:47:45.99\00:47:47.33
Yes.
00:47:47.36\00:47:48.70
Sabbath schools, or
even Sunday schools,
00:47:48.73\00:47:51.30
they write out.
00:47:51.33\00:47:52.67
You know, this could be used
00:47:52.70\00:47:54.20
in a church
Sabbath program verynicely.
00:47:54.24\00:47:57.11
So we think that there
are many different things
00:47:57.14\00:47:58.94
now that the core has done.
00:47:58.97\00:48:00.31
That's why I've
been telling Sandy, okay,
00:48:00.34\00:48:01.68
the core is gonna get done.
00:48:01.71\00:48:03.04
But what you're going to
be amazed at what God does.
00:48:03.08\00:48:04.51
Give me one piece of time,
00:48:04.55\00:48:06.41
now that the core is done,
00:48:06.45\00:48:07.85
we're doing the
second wave of the core.
00:48:07.88\00:48:09.82
I'm already
writing more curriculum.
00:48:09.85\00:48:11.32
And one thing we
forgot to tell them
00:48:11.35\00:48:13.09
too was about the international.
00:48:13.12\00:48:14.76
That's right.
00:48:14.79\00:48:16.12
You know, I was at as DESA,
00:48:16.16\00:48:19.33
where you have
administrators of education,
00:48:19.36\00:48:21.53
and I met some
people from Germany,
00:48:21.56\00:48:23.40
and they became so excited that
00:48:23.43\00:48:25.53
they asked us to
do this in German.
00:48:25.57\00:48:27.94
And so we did the
third and fourth grade level.
00:48:27.97\00:48:30.57
And I presented this
online to Bogenhofen University
00:48:30.61\00:48:34.24
in Austria to
the education majors.
00:48:34.28\00:48:36.85
So when the education majors
00:48:36.88\00:48:38.38
in Austria get
out into the field,
00:48:38.41\00:48:40.58
that's what they're going
to be doing is Three Angels.
00:48:40.62\00:48:43.49
That's great. Yeah and Burton...
00:48:43.52\00:48:46.72
Burton Wattenberg Conference?
00:48:46.76\00:48:48.39
Wattenberg, I
think that's right.
00:48:48.42\00:48:49.76
I won't try to figure that one.
00:48:49.79\00:48:53.46
So it's going international,
which worldwide take
00:48:53.50\00:48:55.73
the Three Angels'
Messages into all the world.
00:48:55.76\00:48:58.03
Jesus said, "Go ye
into all the world."
00:48:58.07\00:48:59.93
Now the only enemy we
have here today is the clock.
00:48:59.97\00:49:02.90
And so what I want to do,
00:49:02.94\00:49:04.81
now we've done
thousands of programs,
00:49:04.84\00:49:06.88
but it's not fair
of you two to come in
00:49:06.91\00:49:09.38
and tell u these great stories
00:49:09.41\00:49:10.88
without telling us
how we can participate.
00:49:10.91\00:49:13.21
So we need... Sandy go for us.
00:49:13.25\00:49:15.55
So tell us out
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00:49:15.58\00:49:17.59
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Yes, please go to our
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Donate button on that website?
00:50:52.01\00:50:54.02
If you don't...
Oh, we need to do that.
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We need to put
the Donate button.
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You don't, you
need a Donate button
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because I know our
viewers and when they get behind
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something it's in a big way.
00:50:59.52\00:51:00.86
Okay. So I believe we have...
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You know, I think that might
be happening real soon, Danny.
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This is a
takeaway from 3ABN today.
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There you go. Thank you.
00:51:08.13\00:51:09.46
Absolutely.
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Donate, I'm
happy about all this,
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but I wanna
donate how do I do it?
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So on that website
we'll be able to do it.
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So listen, thank you so
much, both of you for coming.
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And, Dan, you've been for
many, many years and going back
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and glad Karen got
to see her today too.
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But we're gonna just
take what we're gonna do
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is take a little news
break, little short break,
00:51:27.22\00:51:29.32
but we'll be back
for a closing thought.
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If you would
like more information
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about Heart Research Center,
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you can write to
them at PO Box. 2377,
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Fallbrook, California 92088.
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That's Heart Research Center,
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PO Box, 2377,
Fallbrook, California 92088.
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You can call
them at (760) 723-8082
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That's (760) 723-8082
or you can find them online
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at ThreeAngelsForKids.com
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That's written out in
letters ThreeAngelsForKids.com
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