As you're well aware,
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we're living in
unprecedented times.
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Join us now for
Today special program.
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Removing pain
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Lord, let my words
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Heal a heart that hurts
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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Hello and welcome to
another 3ABN Today program.
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We're so very glad that
you have joined us today.
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And I hope you saw the wide shot
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as we just came to
Jill and myself here.
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Yes, there were 10 people.
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Did you count them all?
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There are 10
people on the set today.
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And there you go, very good.
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Thank you Tyler Walker
for showing the wide shot.
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And, oh, yes, this is
a one-hour program too.
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And, yes, we're going to
talk to everyone on here,
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and yes, today is going
to be a power-packed program
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about what God is doing.
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3ABN is going behind bars,
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and today is
about prison ministry
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and about what God is doing.
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And I know, sweetheart,
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prison ministry
means a lot to you too
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and today's an exciting program.
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It does indeed.
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I love going behind bars
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and ministering
to the people there.
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And 3ABN, as you know,
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is the mending
broken people network,
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seeking to reach people
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at their deepest
needs and to fill them.
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So 3ABN loves the Ministry
of Christmas Behind Bars.
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Amen.
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Our Brother Lemuel Vega,
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and we love every opportunity
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that we have to partner together
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in taking the gospel of hope,
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of healing, and
restoration behind bars.
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So that's what
we're talking about today.
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It's how 3ABN went to prison.
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So we are a...
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Went to prison for
the purpose of evangelism.
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Making it kind of sound
bad, you going to prison,
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but yes, evangelism.
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And that's what
3ABN is all about.
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We want to say
thank you for your prayers
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and financial
support for the ministry.
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Absolutely.
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We're going to introduce
the family here right now.
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This is our 3ABN family
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and some of these people
you might not always have seen
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because some of them
work behind the scenes,
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so this is exciting.
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To my right is
Brother Luis Jaen,
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and he is a director here
at 3ABN television director.
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And how long have you been here?
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I've been here
a year and a half.
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And what do you do here at 3ABN?
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Well, I've done camera,
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I've done video graphics,
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but lately I've been
directing a lot more, yes.
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And we... You do
an incredible job.
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And your family... Tell
us. Your family's here too.
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Yeah, my wife
works here also in media.
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And well, I have two
kids, a son and a daughter.
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And they're adorable.
I just want to say that.
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Sitting next to
you is Ian Vandervalk.
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And you and your wife
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and your whole
family are here too.
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But Ian is a floor director here
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and tell us how long
you all have been here
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and about your family?
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Alright.
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We got here in January
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so we've been
here about six months.
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And like you
mentioned, my wife is here.
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She handles makeup as well as...
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She's on camera and my daughter
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who works in housekeeping.
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And as you said,
I'm floor director
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so I just manage
everything that's here
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on the site as the
program is going on
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and prior to the program.
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Do you like being on this?
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It's different
being on this side
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versus telling
us all what to do?
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This is definitely different.
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I think I like
telling you what to do.
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It's great. You
do a wonderful job.
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So glad you're here too.
Thank you. Amen, praise God.
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And sitting next to you
is our Brother Lemuel Vega.
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Amen. We love you and your wife.
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We love your heart for ministry
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and you're, of
course, the founder, director,
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you do everything there
at Christmas Behind Bars,
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but just glad you're here.
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Thank you.
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Good to have you
here and, Lemuel,
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great smile always.
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Don't see you without a smile.
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You must sleep with a
smile on your face too.
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Amen. Good to have you here.
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So we're going to talk
about Christmas Behind Bars
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in just a moment.
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But sitting next
to Brother Lemuel
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is Ben Lingle,
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who's really head of
our audio here at 3ABN.
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And how long have you been here?
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You kind of grew up here.
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I did.
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I've lived here all my
life in West Frankfort.
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I guess we're in West Frankfort
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but anyway, yeah, head of audio
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and I've been here probably
around six or seven years now.
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Wow, incredible. Doing audio.
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It's been a...
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You know, only a couple years
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since I've taken
the step of being head
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but, yeah, I've been
doing audio for about that long.
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Amen.
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Ben's an incredibly
gifted musician as well.
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I know we featured
you on 3ABN doing things,
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but you're
incredibly gifted at that.
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Sitting next to you is someone
who's gifted and creative.
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Amen. Incredibly creative.
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Brad Walker is
senior television director,
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editor, many
things here at 3ABN.
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I think that just means I'm old
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And you've been
here since you were...
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Right out of
high school in 1990s
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when I started working here.
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So my wife, Valerie, she was...
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She started even before
me back in the late 80s.
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So, yeah, we've been around for
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at least since
7:30 this morning.
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You do incredible
work, Brad. Thank you.
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And a lot of you at home,
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you see a lot of
the creativity aspect,
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a lot of the programs and the...
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What do we call it?
More complicated programs.
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Brad's the mind behind a
lot of those, so thank you.
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Amen.
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It's always my
pleasure to work with 3ABN.
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I love being on the...
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Behind the cameras for sure.
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You look great
though Brad, don't worry.
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What I love about it is
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my son is
directing the show right now
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and, of course, my
daughter, and my niece,
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and guys over there so,
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yeah, it's a
great place to work.
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Ain't that a blessing family?
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You know we love your
family, so glad they're here.
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And speaking of family,
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we have Jewlee
Meadows who would be...
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Is your niece. That's right.
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And your video
graphics here at 3ABN.
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Yes ma'am, that is true.
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We started working here
about two and a half years ago.
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We started on Kids Network
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and then we just joined
production about a year ago.
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So it's been a lot of
fun being on both sides of,
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you know, production,
getting to see how things work.
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It's a lot of fun.
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And I was going
to say your sidekick,
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but maybe you're her sidekick,
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so maybe you go to help us.
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Sitting next to
you is Tiara Walker
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and you all are cousins.
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We are. We're cousins. Yeah.
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And you do an incredible
job, I know, for Kids Camp.
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You did an
amazing work with that.
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That was fun. That was fun.
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And for other
things here at 3ABN too.
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So, Tiara, you're
in video graphics too?
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I am. Yep, I do video graphics.
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Like she said, we started here
about two and a half years ago
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with Kids Camp, and
then we went to production,
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and, oh, we have so
much fun in production.
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The crew is so much fun.
It's a blessing to be here.
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Amen.
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We love having both of you here.
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Amen.
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And last but not
least, is Jason Bradley,
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general manager of
Dare to Dream Network.
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I'm glad you're here, Jay.
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It's great to be here.
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I've been here about
seven and a half years,
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a little over
seven and a half now.
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Wow. Time flies.
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Yes, time flies,
so excited to be here.
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Amen.
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Oh, yeah, it's a
blessing to have you here too.
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And I'm looking
forward to today's program.
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There's a lot of
people on the set,
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we got a lot of
exciting things to share.
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So should we talk
about Christmas Behind Bars?
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Yes.
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Lemuel, someone may say,
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okay, I don't even know
what Christmas Behind Bars is.
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So give us a quick snapshot?
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Christmas Behind
Bars combined with 3ABN
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is an opportunity to
reach hurting receptive people.
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So people have
done things wrong,
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they're incarcerated,
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they're in a place in their life
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where they wish
they wouldn't have.
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And it's just an opportunity
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to go ahead and tell
them, "Hey, we love you.
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God loves you."
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And bring them
something tangible.
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Might be a Bible, it
might be a bag full of goodies,
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it might be hygiene items.
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It's just like, "Hey, we care.
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We love you, no
strings attached.
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Here's what's
helped us in our lives."
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And every one of these
people come into the jail,
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you'll see that.
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And they testify
what God has done for you.
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They care, they shared a
skit, they share their love.
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And that is...
That's magnificent.
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So Christmas
Behind Bars is just a...
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I shouldn't say "it's just a"
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because God
designed it, God ordained it,
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it was His idea,
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it's His design to be
able to go into these places
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and let them know that we care
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and there's hope for
their life through Christ.
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That's what it's about.
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So why did you get
involved in prison ministry?
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Because I myself was in jail
and it's a really lonely place.
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And your people forget,
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your friends
forget all about you.
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The letters don't come no more.
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There's no one to
accept your phone calls.
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And there you are
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wishing that you
could go back and change
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what it was that you did wrong.
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And what I realized
through the whole journey
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is the doctors can't
help us with their medication.
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Prison doesn't change
us, college can't educate us.
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The internal problem in
our lives and it's Christ.
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So the simplicity of the
gospel as Jason has shared
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through analogies
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to let the people
know simple methods
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is how Jesus taught the people.
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Practical wheat and the tares,
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and practical
things they saw every day.
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And so that's what
we've kind of worked with,
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with the new program
called... Unshackled Purpose.
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Unshackled Purpose.
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So I'm really
excited about that.
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So Christmas Behind Bars is...
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We wanted the world to know
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that they can
reach out to these people
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through 3ABN prison ministries
and Christmas Behind Bars.
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And, you know, Brad Walker
came one day to the prison
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for the first time
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and he's the one
that said we should make
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a series out of
this whole program.
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And that...
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So that's where
Free Indeed came from.
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And now through that,
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that's where
Unshackled Purpose is.
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And so, it's just
to reach these people
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because it's
primetime in their lives.
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And I know that Christ is able,
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so we want to let
them know the answers.
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So...
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Yeah, Brad, when did you
then first connect with Lemuel?
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Because I know, Lemuel,
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you've been coming
here for a number of years.
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But how did that
connection start?
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Yeah, it's
probably 15 years ago.
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Wow. We...
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Dee Hilderbrand actually
found Christmas Behind Bars
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and did some research
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and she was trying to figure out
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a quick Christmas story.
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And we're like,
"Well, Christmas Behind Bars,
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that sounds a little different.
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Let's do it, do that program."
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So little did we
know 15 years ago
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that Lemuel's just been
an amazing mentor in my life
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and just an inspiration of
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how somebody's just
sold out for the lord
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and he can't hold it back.
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He has to go tell
somebody about the Lord,
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and it's just been an amazing.
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They came out to the church
to film the gift packaging.
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So they came out to
the church to film that
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and then I said,
"What about the delivery?"
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And so then the
prison allowed cameras
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and people to come in to do,
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to do the filming
inside the prison.
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And that's phenomenal,
maximum security prison.
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And so then it was his idea,
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so the Lord is just
continuing to orchestrate this.
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So the gift packages.
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Tell us what are
in the gift packages?
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Gift packages bottom of the bag,
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creation
magazines, devotion materials,
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book and Bible study offers.
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3ABN has an offer in
there to send Bibles and...
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So bottom of the
bag, devotion material,
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and then it doesn't matter
what's on the rest of the bag.
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Okay, it can be snacks, chips,
cookies, cashews, almonds.
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It can be granola,
it can be hygiene items.
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So we just try to
give them a gift that's
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something they don't have.
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Yeah, because
this is not something
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that they can find easily.
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Yeah. This is
tremendous for them.
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And Christmas Behind Bars,
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this doesn't just
happen in December.
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No, that's how it
started 25, 28 years ago.
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It just started in
the month of December
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because Christmas
is the loneliest time
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of someone's incarceration.
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Yep. They're lonely.
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They're thinking
of something better,
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a better day if they
ever had one in their life,
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they're thinking of Christmas.
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And so that's the
beauty of the gospel.
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Mm-hmm. Yeah, amen. Thank you.
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So, Brad, going into the prison,
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'cause Lemuel just
kind of alluded to this
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as far as bringing
equipment and cameras
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into maximum security prisons.
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I mean, you've seen
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some miracles take place, right?
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I mean, this isn't
necessary an easy going into.
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We've been into
maximum prisons...
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Death row. Death row.
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We were able to...
You went to death row?
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We take drones
across, inside before the...
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There was laws to
stop us from doing that.
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The guards in
the prison, you know,
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they was all like out
and playing with the cameras
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and the equipment.
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And the Lord just opened doors.
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We took our production truck
inside the prisons and into...
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Did concerts and
services in there.
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So it's incredible
when God opens the doors
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and we're just
going where the Lord open.
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Yeah, this to me is a miracle
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because it's not like
we're sneaking this stuff in.
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Oh, no.
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I mean, you know, they
know and they allow it inside
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to get these testimonies.
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So what's been the feedback?
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Oh, phenomenal.
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We just went to
a prison in Texas,
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a women's prison last week.
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Lockhart, Texas and I
mean, the stack of letters
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of appreciation.
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So I mean, the
appreciation is phenomenal.
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So you'll be seeing some letters
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from Lockhart, Texas,
from the women's prison there
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to send
materials so it's amazing.
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They say that...
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They look at
people and they say,
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"Well, if God can
change your lives,
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surely He can help me."
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And, you know,
we're not talking about
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people that's...
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You don't have
to be drug addicted
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to go in and tell them
there's hope for their life.
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You don't have to
have been incarcerated.
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I mean, wherever spectrum
that Jesus has helped you
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in your life, you
just roll it to them.
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It flows, so.
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We support
Christmas Behind Bars 1000%.
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We believe in the
ministry and what you are doing
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and you're an inspiration.
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Jill and I have had
the opportunity of going
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behind bars with
Lemuel and some of the crew.
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And to just see you minister,
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which we're going
to go to some roll
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and talk about the
most recent experience
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that took place when
3ABN went behind bars,
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but you're an inspiration.
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How you can take
everyday items, let's say,
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and make it
applicable to us today.
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And really, it comes
down to Jesus loving us
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and that there is actually hope
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and that
there's actually purpose
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for my life and for
someone else's life.
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And I'm not just
here by accident,
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but God has a plan
even if we've all messed up.
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And so thank you for
your heart and your passion.
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We're talking about the
smile that was on your face.
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And I'm not kidding.
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He is always... See,
there you go. Good shot.
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But, you know, and
I know you get tired,
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you know, we know that
the devil throws darts at you
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but you still
just keep on going.
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So we continue to pray for you.
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And at the end of this program,
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we'll be putting
up contact information
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on how you can support.
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Jill will talk more
about those details.
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But be ready for that
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because however the Holy
Spirit is impressing you,
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this is a fantastic ministry
and you're changing lives.
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And only in eternity,
Lemuel, will you really,
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fully realize the impact
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that you and your
ministry have made...
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Thank you. In
many people's lives.
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Praise God for that.
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We're going to
transition in just a moment here
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because this entire group
went to the Boone County Jail,
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and we're going to hear
some of them went in jail
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for the first time to minister.
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We're going to hear what
that experience was like,
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what God did in and
through that experience.
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We're going to talk
about to Jason about
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this brand new
prison ministry program
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that Lemuel put
together with our team here.
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But before we
transition for that,
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I was thinking, Brother Lemuel,
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what if someone is saying
my family is incarcerated?
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I don't know if
there's hope for them.
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I don't know
what to do for them.
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What would you tell them?
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Oh, I'd say there
absolutely there is.
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You know, my mother never
lived long enough to see...
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She prayed for me and prayed
there'd be change in my life.
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She never lived long
enough to see change in my life.
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But absolutely there is.
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Don't give up praying
because when you pray,
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you're giving God permission,
not that He needs it,
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but God the power of salvation
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and through the Holy
Spirit is a willingness.
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And so we try to encourage
these inmates willingness
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to ask God for help.
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But as the family members pray
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for that one
that's incarcerated,
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you're giving God permission.
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You're saying,
"Hey, will you go?"
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And it doesn't
matter what the devil say,
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"Will you go?
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Will you continue to work
with my loved one behind bars?"
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So there's hope.
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Amen.
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Jason, you were just
involved with production here
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with Unshackled Purpose,
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which is this brand new program.
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And I think many of the
people around this table,
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all of you were
involved in that as well.
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So everybody was involved.
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But talk to us about that
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and why you all
decided to go to Boone County?
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Man, this was such a
wonderful experience.
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We went to Boone
County to get some B-roll
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and to really put on a
program for the inmates
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and to show them
that they are cared about,
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they are...
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There are people that love them.
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There's a God in
heaven that cares about them,
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wants to spend
eternity with them.
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And so we went in
there to share the hope
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that comes through Christ.
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And we got to
capture all of that on film
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for Unshackled Purpose
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and a variety of other purposes,
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one in which we'll see
in just a little bit too.
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But we, you know, we
passed out those gift bags,
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we got to hear
some amazing skits,
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and a couple of us may
or may not have been crying
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when we saw this take place.
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It was powerful.
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You know, I went in there
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and shared my
testimony with them.
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And at one point in my life,
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I was looking down the barrel
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at a potential maximum
prison sentence of 15 years.
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But God saw fit
to spare me from that
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and blessed me
with a second chance.
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And so just to go in
there and tell the men and women
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that there's a
better way of life for them.
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And so Unshackled
Purpose is a program that...
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Where it features like
practical applications.
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For example, Lemuel can take
a toilet paper roll and say,
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"Hey, you know, what is this?
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This toilet
paper, what does it do?
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It cleans up messy
external situation.
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Jesus cleans up the inside."
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And so he talks about that,
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he talks about the living water.
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Would you rather
clean water, dirty water?
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What would you prefer?
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So like, there's so
many different things
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that he just picks up
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and he just gives
these illustrations
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that have a
spiritual application,
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and you walk away
remembering that application.
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And so we went
in there to do that.
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Amen.
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Speaking of those applications,
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we're going to
put you on the spot.
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I remember when we
went into prison with you,
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you talked about
you held up a $1 bill,
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and you talked about that?
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Can you give us
that illustration?
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Yeah, it wasn't my illustration.
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I heard it and it
just fits so well.
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If you take a $50
bill or a $100 bill
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and you ask the people,
how many people want it,
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and some of them
will raise their hand.
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I said, "Look, man, I'm serious.
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How many of you want
this? Raise your hand."
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But then you wad it up
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and, you know, you say,
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"How many people
still want that?"
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And they raise their hand
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and then you throw
it in the trash can.
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"And how many of
you still want it?"
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And I say, "Why?"
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And they'll jump
up and they'll say,
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"Because it's still a $20
bill, or it's still $100 bill."
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And I said, "Man,
that's what God wants to do
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with our lives."
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Because in Genesis 1:1,
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"In the beginning God created
the heaven and the earth."
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Most people believe
that, then raise your hand,
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but we were
created in God's own image.
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So our value even though we
may be rumpled and crumbled,
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and as we come to
Christ, He'll begin unfolding
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and He'll smooth it out.
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We may still have
scars, but that doesn't matter.
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In eternity those
will be erased away.
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That's beautiful. Amen. Amen.
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Yeah, I love
those illustrations.
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And, Brad, just talk
to us briefly about it too
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because when we...
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The location that we
found for this program,
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Unshackled
Purpose, was here locally.
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Yes.
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So when we started this,
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it was during
the COVID pandemic.
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That's right.
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And so even Lemuel
was having a hard time.
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He was still
delivering packages,
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but the visitations and
stuff had to halt for a time.
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And so what we found
was a museum locally here,
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a prison museum.
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Yes.
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And so, we
asked the owners there
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could we use
this for illustrations
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to tell people about...
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Amen.
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And that they been opened it up
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and allowed us to come in
and we did the whole season.
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Right in the
middle of wintertime
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is I believe
when we went in there.
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There was no heat down in the...
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In there.
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But even in an abandoned jail
we found the Lord down there.
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So, yeah, God delivered.
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I was able to stop
in just a little bit
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and it's
powerful, just powerful.
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So praise the lord.
00:20:07.94\00:20:09.27
Let's talk
about in Boone County.
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So God opened a
miraculous door there too
00:20:10.84\00:20:13.24
because, Lemuel, you
had not been able to go
00:20:13.27\00:20:15.24
into any prison or
jail during COVID, right?
00:20:15.28\00:20:16.95
That's correct.
00:20:16.98\00:20:18.31
We've been delivering thousands
and thousands of gift packages,
00:20:18.35\00:20:20.72
but the staff all pass...
00:20:20.75\00:20:22.18
Pass them out.
00:20:22.22\00:20:23.55
The whole crew was able
to go in there with cameras
00:20:23.59\00:20:25.25
and just
everything we wanted, needed.
00:20:25.29\00:20:27.59
They even put extra
officers there for us.
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Yes, it was phenomenal.
00:20:29.36\00:20:30.69
This was our
first visitation. Amen.
00:20:30.73\00:20:33.03
So then Jewlee and Tiara,
00:20:33.06\00:20:35.73
Lemuel asked you two
00:20:35.76\00:20:37.37
to go into the jail
there in Boone County.
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Yeah.
00:20:39.23\00:20:40.57
So tell us a
little bit about that?
00:20:40.60\00:20:41.94
Yeah, well, actually,
just a little back story on us
00:20:41.97\00:20:44.91
is we used to be in a drama team
00:20:44.94\00:20:46.88
for eight years.
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And so we would travel around
00:20:48.28\00:20:49.61
preaching the gospel
through skits and dramas.
00:20:49.64\00:20:51.91
And so when
Lemuel asked us to come
00:20:51.95\00:20:54.02
speak to these ladies,
00:20:54.05\00:20:55.42
we thought maybe we
could do a skit for them.
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So we really prayed about it.
00:20:58.05\00:20:59.42
And we felt like
00:20:59.45\00:21:00.79
God impressed
us to do this skit.
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And it's kind of
just about baggage
00:21:02.76\00:21:05.09
and how we all have
baggage and that it's heavy
00:21:05.13\00:21:08.83
and, you know,
it weighs you down.
00:21:08.86\00:21:10.27
And sometimes you
pick it up yourself,
00:21:10.30\00:21:11.93
and sometimes
people put it on you.
00:21:11.97\00:21:13.94
But we have a God
00:21:13.97\00:21:15.47
that wants to take
that baggage from you.
00:21:15.50\00:21:17.64
So that's kind of
what we wanted to,
00:21:17.67\00:21:19.47
you know, show the
women there at the prison.
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Right.
00:21:21.01\00:21:22.34
And he asked us, would
you speak to the women?
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So we were like,
"Okay, yeah, yeah."
00:21:24.55\00:21:25.91
So we practiced this skit
probably hundreds of times.
00:21:25.95\00:21:28.88
We were like, we're
going to perform at once,
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and it's going to be awesome,
00:21:30.82\00:21:32.15
like we want to get
this message across.
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So we walk in the prison
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thinking, "Okay, we're going
to perform the skit one time,
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so it's got to be great."
00:21:36.86\00:21:38.19
We walk in there
and the jail commander,
00:21:38.23\00:21:40.86
Captain Turner, I believe
00:21:40.90\00:21:42.23
he said, "We actually
have two rooms of women.
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Would you guys mind
performing the skit twice?"
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And we're like, "Okay, yeah,
00:21:47.07\00:21:48.40
you know, it's a
little longer skit
00:21:48.44\00:21:49.77
so we'll pray for some energy."
00:21:49.80\00:21:51.14
You know, so we went in
00:21:51.17\00:21:52.51
and we performed the
skit for the first cell block.
00:21:52.54\00:21:55.84
And Captain
Turner just was like,
00:21:55.88\00:21:58.51
"This message was just amazing.
00:21:58.55\00:22:00.35
I mean, the Holy
Spirit was in that room."
00:22:00.38\00:22:01.72
Oh, yeah.
00:22:01.75\00:22:03.08
And he says, "I
want every single inmate
00:22:03.12\00:22:04.75
to hear this skit."
00:22:04.79\00:22:06.12
He says, "Not just that,
00:22:06.15\00:22:07.49
I want my staff
to hear this skit."
00:22:07.52\00:22:09.22
So he asked as personally,
00:22:09.26\00:22:10.59
"Would you guys mind
going to the men's ward
00:22:10.63\00:22:12.73
and doing it
for all of the men?"
00:22:12.76\00:22:14.50
And we went, "Okay,
yeah. We can do that."
00:22:14.53\00:22:21.10
So we walked in thinking
we'll perform it one time,
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and we actually ended
up performing that skit
00:22:23.71\00:22:25.87
eight times in
every single room.
00:22:25.91\00:22:28.58
And it was exhausting.
00:22:28.61\00:22:29.94
I'm not going to
lie, it was exhausting,
00:22:29.98\00:22:31.31
but it was an
amazing experience.
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So amazing.
00:22:32.71\00:22:34.05
One of the best
experiences we've ever had.
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Absolutely. Yeah.
00:22:35.45\00:22:37.69
So that's your first
time going into jail, prison?
00:22:37.72\00:22:40.46
First time. First time ever.
00:22:40.49\00:22:42.59
What did it feel like walking
in the first time to you?
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It was scary.
00:22:45.66\00:22:47.16
I'm not going to lie,
Greg and Jill, it was scary.
00:22:47.20\00:22:48.93
It was scary. It was scary.
00:22:48.96\00:22:50.30
When we first were
asked, we were really excited.
00:22:50.33\00:22:51.90
We're like, "Yeah, yeah,
00:22:51.93\00:22:53.27
you know, this is an
amazing opportunity."
00:22:53.30\00:22:54.64
And then once it
started getting closer to time,
00:22:54.67\00:22:56.40
we realized we
don't know what to expect.
00:22:56.44\00:22:58.91
Yeah. Sure.
00:22:58.94\00:23:00.28
You know, so it was, it
was a big step out in faith,
00:23:00.31\00:23:02.71
you know, and we
were really nervous.
00:23:02.74\00:23:04.58
But I mean, God showed up
00:23:04.61\00:23:05.95
and, you know, you
hear that scripture verse,
00:23:05.98\00:23:07.35
"I can do all
things through Christ."
00:23:07.38\00:23:08.78
And you know,
you hear that a lot,
00:23:08.82\00:23:10.15
but when you
actually live it you realize,
00:23:10.19\00:23:11.52
Oh, I can do all
things through Christ.
00:23:11.55\00:23:12.99
God just helped
me do that, you know?
00:23:13.02\00:23:14.46
Yeah.
00:23:14.49\00:23:15.82
And I feel like we had all
these worries in our minds.
00:23:15.86\00:23:17.96
I remember we were
practicing and Tiara just stops.
00:23:17.99\00:23:20.66
And she's like, Jewlee,
00:23:20.70\00:23:23.03
how are we even
qualified to do this?
00:23:23.06\00:23:25.67
She says, "They're not
going to listen to us."
00:23:25.70\00:23:28.40
Like, you know, Lemuel,
00:23:28.44\00:23:29.77
he has a testimony
that they can relate to,
00:23:29.80\00:23:32.47
and Jason has this testimony
they can relate to them.
00:23:32.51\00:23:35.61
But like, how can we relate
to these people, you know?
00:23:35.64\00:23:39.45
We're like, we're young.
00:23:39.48\00:23:40.82
You know, we've
never experienced
00:23:40.85\00:23:42.18
something like this.
00:23:42.22\00:23:43.55
So what qualifies us
that they would listen to us?
00:23:43.59\00:23:45.09
You know, and there's
a lot of doubt and fears.
00:23:45.12\00:23:48.22
And every single
block we went to,
00:23:48.26\00:23:49.62
especially after he
asked us go to everyone,
00:23:49.66\00:23:51.83
we're like, "Oh, okay."
00:23:51.86\00:23:53.19
So we prayed for the
Holy Spirit and that,
00:23:53.23\00:23:55.43
you know, he would
just open people's hearts.
00:23:55.46\00:23:57.47
God would just
open people's hearts
00:23:57.50\00:23:58.83
to listen to us.
00:23:58.87\00:24:00.20
And all those fears,
00:24:00.24\00:24:01.57
you know, were just something
to try to get us to not do it.
00:24:01.60\00:24:03.64
But, you know, we
got through it with God
00:24:03.67\00:24:05.77
and it was amazing.
00:24:05.81\00:24:07.14
I'd like to... Go ahead.
Well, it's crazy... Go ahead.
00:24:07.18\00:24:11.11
Let's keep going on.
Go ahead. You go ahead.
00:24:11.15\00:24:14.02
I'd like to say there was
total silence in the room.
00:24:14.05\00:24:16.92
There were tears
in people's eyes.
00:24:16.95\00:24:18.52
There were big tough men
00:24:18.55\00:24:19.89
and there were
tears in their eyes.
00:24:19.92\00:24:21.26
And it was just phenomenal.
00:24:21.29\00:24:22.62
You talking
about the Holy Spirit?
00:24:22.66\00:24:24.03
Captain Turner had been praying
00:24:24.06\00:24:25.76
before he even
got the phone call
00:24:25.79\00:24:27.40
for us to go to his jail,
00:24:27.43\00:24:29.10
about us even coming at all.
00:24:29.13\00:24:31.20
He'd been praying for
revival. Go ahead, Jewlee.
00:24:31.23\00:24:33.60
Yeah, well, we
have just been taking
00:24:33.64\00:24:35.80
some discipleship training.
00:24:35.84\00:24:38.27
And for the past few months,
00:24:38.31\00:24:40.08
you know, we've
just been saying,
00:24:40.11\00:24:41.81
take every
opportunity that God gives you.
00:24:41.84\00:24:44.38
Every opportunity.
00:24:44.41\00:24:45.75
And so here God
gives us this opportunity
00:24:45.78\00:24:48.38
to go into prison
to speak to inmates,
00:24:48.42\00:24:51.32
and we were kind of like,
"God, are You sure about that?"
00:24:51.35\00:24:55.06
But you know,
it's an opportunity.
00:24:55.09\00:24:56.83
And so it's kind
of like God's saying,
00:24:56.86\00:24:58.36
"Okay, you can talk the
talk but now that it's time,
00:24:58.39\00:25:00.70
are you really
going to walk the walk?"
00:25:00.73\00:25:02.23
You know?
00:25:02.26\00:25:03.60
So I think we can both say
00:25:03.63\00:25:05.43
we're very thankful
we took that opportunity
00:25:05.47\00:25:07.50
because it's blessed us
00:25:07.54\00:25:09.84
more than we would
have ever imagined.
00:25:09.87\00:25:11.97
That was what I
was just going to ask.
00:25:12.01\00:25:13.54
How did it impact you?
00:25:13.58\00:25:17.81
Oh, Jill,
00:25:17.85\00:25:19.75
it changed my
perspective on a lot of things.
00:25:19.78\00:25:22.68
You know, usually when you
hear about prisons and stuff,
00:25:22.72\00:25:25.15
you think of
these big tough guys
00:25:25.19\00:25:26.89
who just don't want anything.
00:25:26.92\00:25:28.26
But when we went in
there with the love of Christ,
00:25:28.29\00:25:30.43
I mean, people's
faces just changed.
00:25:30.46\00:25:32.36
I mean, we were
even talking about it
00:25:32.39\00:25:33.80
afterwards, you know.
00:25:33.83\00:25:35.16
We walk in there
00:25:35.20\00:25:36.53
and everybody's
kind of cold at first,
00:25:36.56\00:25:37.90
especially if they don't know.
00:25:37.93\00:25:39.27
And once Jason
gave his testimony
00:25:39.30\00:25:40.64
and Lemuel came up there,
00:25:40.67\00:25:42.00
and people just showed
them the love of Christ.
00:25:42.04\00:25:43.37
I mean, you could
see their faces change.
00:25:43.41\00:25:45.31
And that really
impacted, you know,
00:25:45.34\00:25:48.21
just the love of Christ.
00:25:48.24\00:25:49.58
How that can soften somebody
00:25:49.61\00:25:50.95
and just
connect you to somebody.
00:25:50.98\00:25:53.21
You know, Brad,
00:25:53.25\00:25:54.58
you all came back from that trip
00:25:54.62\00:25:56.72
and I received a text from you.
00:25:56.75\00:25:58.59
I was trying to find
if you actually text me.
00:25:58.62\00:26:01.12
I was trying to, yeah.
00:26:01.16\00:26:02.49
And you mentioned something.
00:26:02.52\00:26:03.86
I believe in that text you said,
00:26:03.89\00:26:05.23
"Greg, there was revival."
00:26:05.26\00:26:06.63
There was, yeah. Oh, wow.
00:26:06.66\00:26:08.00
So tell me about that?
Because you don't usually...
00:26:08.03\00:26:09.36
I mean, that's
kind of unusual, right?
00:26:09.40\00:26:10.73
You've been on a work trip,
00:26:10.77\00:26:12.10
because this is work
too, but also its ministering.
00:26:12.13\00:26:13.47
It is.
00:26:13.50\00:26:14.84
You said Greg, the
revival took place.
00:26:14.87\00:26:16.20
There was, not just with
the people that you think
00:26:16.24\00:26:17.67
you're going to go
in and your minister
00:26:17.71\00:26:19.07
or for us to the camera crew
that's just going to go in...
00:26:19.11\00:26:22.01
You could think that it's a job.
00:26:22.04\00:26:23.38
I mean, it is work.
I mean, Lemuel gets up.
00:26:23.41\00:26:25.68
If he sleeps any...
00:26:25.71\00:26:27.05
The night before
getting everything prepared
00:26:27.08\00:26:29.38
or whatever.
00:26:29.42\00:26:30.75
But when you go in,
you're thinking you're...
00:26:30.79\00:26:32.35
It's going to be
exhausting trying to minister,
00:26:32.39\00:26:35.02
and witness, and talk
to everybody all day long.
00:26:35.06\00:26:37.16
It's not the case.
00:26:37.19\00:26:38.53
It's just when you come
in and you say God loves you
00:26:38.56\00:26:40.93
and there's hope for your...
00:26:40.96\00:26:43.40
This may look like
a hopeless situation
00:26:43.43\00:26:46.07
but there is...
00:26:46.10\00:26:47.44
It's just an eye-opening to you.
00:26:47.47\00:26:49.44
It's...
00:26:49.47\00:26:50.81
So anybody that's
not went to prison.
00:26:50.84\00:26:53.04
I think everybody
that's here most of us now
00:26:53.07\00:26:57.38
experienced that
when you go in there.
00:26:57.41\00:26:59.15
God is in the
darkest corners of the places
00:26:59.18\00:27:03.39
and it's just amazing that
3ABN allows us even to do that.
00:27:03.42\00:27:07.46
And I thank you
guys for allowing us.
00:27:07.49\00:27:08.82
Oh, it's our privilege.
00:27:08.86\00:27:10.19
No, yeah, it's phenomenal.
00:27:10.23\00:27:11.56
And it... It's inspiring.
00:27:11.59\00:27:12.99
I have to say it's inspiring.
I'm sure for you at home too.
00:27:13.03\00:27:15.43
We receive a
tremendous, of course, response
00:27:15.46\00:27:18.00
anytime we do
anything on prison ministry.
00:27:18.03\00:27:19.73
So praise the Lord for that.
00:27:19.77\00:27:21.57
So Brad, Jewlee, Tiara,
we're going to go to a video.
00:27:21.60\00:27:23.97
So all three of you, one
of you tell us about the video
00:27:24.01\00:27:27.21
we're getting ready to see here.
00:27:27.24\00:27:28.88
Yeah, so it's just a little.
00:27:28.91\00:27:32.51
Yay.
00:27:32.55\00:27:33.88
So it's just a little video.
00:27:33.92\00:27:35.25
Just a little snip bits
of things Lemuel had to say
00:27:35.28\00:27:38.05
and a little bit
of Jason's testimony,
00:27:38.09\00:27:39.89
and you'll see a
little bit of our skit.
00:27:39.92\00:27:41.46
You know, there's some
dramatic parts in there,
00:27:41.49\00:27:44.03
just heads up, but you can see
00:27:44.06\00:27:45.76
just some of the faces of people
00:27:45.79\00:27:47.33
and in that connection,
00:27:47.36\00:27:48.93
that love of God
in people's faces,
00:27:48.96\00:27:50.73
you can see that, so.
00:27:50.77\00:27:52.10
Okay. It's a
real exciting video.
00:27:52.13\00:27:53.47
And thank you Brad
00:27:53.50\00:27:54.84
for putting it together as well.
00:27:54.87\00:27:56.20
Yes.
00:27:56.24\00:27:57.57
All right, so let's go to
that video roll right now.
00:27:57.61\00:27:59.64
I know that no matter how hard
and cold the exterior may seem,
00:27:59.67\00:28:04.01
I know that inside we hurt.
00:28:04.05\00:28:06.51
And so I got out
of that situation
00:28:06.55\00:28:08.92
and then I hit
a known drug area.
00:28:08.95\00:28:11.19
Went and bought some
weed and some ecstasy
00:28:11.22\00:28:14.06
and I hit the block.
00:28:14.09\00:28:15.72
Only on this day I was
forced into early retirement
00:28:15.76\00:28:18.19
because two cops came
up from around the building
00:28:18.23\00:28:20.46
and wanted to search everybody.
00:28:20.50\00:28:22.20
So I go to jail.
00:28:22.23\00:28:24.00
Stomach still open,
00:28:24.03\00:28:25.37
gauze pads still
covering my wound.
00:28:25.40\00:28:28.47
And I spent the
night in there that night.
00:28:28.50\00:28:30.71
But for me that
was my rock bottom.
00:28:30.74\00:28:33.24
They waited a year
to take me to court
00:28:33.27\00:28:35.24
and on my paperwork
00:28:35.28\00:28:36.61
I saw that they
could sentenced me
00:28:36.64\00:28:37.98
to a maximum prison
sentence of 15 years.
00:28:38.01\00:28:41.52
God had a
different plan for my life.
00:28:41.55\00:28:44.62
We're not here today to
judge you or condemn you.
00:28:44.65\00:28:46.72
We're here today to
tell you that we love you
00:28:46.76\00:28:48.39
and we understand the
situation that you're in.
00:28:48.42\00:28:52.46
We can even either learn
to forgive those mistakes
00:28:52.49\00:28:57.93
or pick up more baggage.
00:28:57.97\00:29:00.64
You know, it gets uncomfortable,
00:29:00.67\00:29:04.41
tedious,
00:29:04.44\00:29:06.37
and our natural tendency is
to want to take this baggage
00:29:06.41\00:29:09.54
and dump it on to someone else.
00:29:09.58\00:29:13.31
But it always backfires.
00:29:13.35\00:29:15.85
Stay, Jewlee, I'm sorry.
00:29:15.88\00:29:17.22
I know that I'm
your best friend.
00:29:17.25\00:29:18.59
This isn't happening.
00:29:18.62\00:29:19.95
Jewlee, just calm
down. Let me explain.
00:29:19.99\00:29:21.32
I can't believe that
you would do this to me.
00:29:21.36\00:29:23.73
You're supposed
to be my best friend.
00:29:23.76\00:29:25.73
But you know what?
00:29:25.76\00:29:27.10
I guess that
means nothing to you.
00:29:27.13\00:29:28.46
Yeah, it does mean something.
00:29:28.50\00:29:29.83
Jewlee, just let me
explain. Why not just leave.
00:29:29.86\00:29:32.17
Jewlee, don't do
this. Let me explain.
00:29:32.20\00:29:34.00
Leave. You did this.
00:29:34.04\00:29:38.04
Just get out.
00:29:38.07\00:29:39.41
Fine, I'll leave if
that's what you want.
00:29:39.44\00:29:41.04
Well, that's what I want.
00:29:41.08\00:29:42.41
Fine, I'm going,
00:29:42.44\00:29:43.98
but don't forget who's been here
00:29:44.01\00:29:45.35
for you for the last
six years, Jewlee, me.
00:29:45.38\00:29:48.02
God, please.
00:29:52.05\00:29:55.86
If you're willing,
00:29:55.89\00:29:57.23
would you take
this baggage from me?
00:29:57.26\00:30:01.13
Please, God, I'm miserable
00:30:01.16\00:30:03.30
and I can't live
this way any longer.
00:30:03.33\00:30:06.67
Please, take it.
00:30:06.70\00:30:09.64
Do you know what?
00:30:19.91\00:30:22.82
He takes it.
00:30:22.85\00:30:29.62
That's powerful. Amen.
00:30:29.66\00:30:31.03
Thank you all so
much for sharing.
00:30:31.06\00:30:32.69
We had the privilege
of seeing the entire skit.
00:30:32.73\00:30:36.26
You all came in the
office and played that.
00:30:36.30\00:30:37.83
You did an amazing job.
00:30:37.87\00:30:41.17
It takes a lot of faith
00:30:41.20\00:30:42.54
to step out and
do that, doesn't it?
00:30:42.57\00:30:44.21
Yeah, it does. Yeah.
00:30:44.24\00:30:46.27
We experienced a lot
of boldness in our faith.
00:30:46.31\00:30:49.54
From that?
00:30:49.58\00:30:50.91
It was very much
00:30:50.95\00:30:52.28
a Peter stepping
out of the boat moment.
00:30:52.31\00:30:53.65
You know, God gave
us this opportunity
00:30:53.68\00:30:55.58
and we were terrified.
00:30:55.62\00:30:57.19
You know, we saw the
waves, we saw the storm
00:30:57.22\00:30:59.29
but we walked out anyway.
00:30:59.32\00:31:00.86
And, you know, him asking us...
00:31:00.89\00:31:02.52
Captain Turner asking us
to go and talk to all the men,
00:31:02.56\00:31:04.99
that was walking on the
water a little bit more,
00:31:05.03\00:31:07.10
you know, and it
was a great opportunity
00:31:07.13\00:31:10.83
to build our own
faith and to help those...
00:31:10.87\00:31:13.77
Rather get a faith with Jesus
00:31:13.80\00:31:15.20
or start building their
own while they're behind bars.
00:31:15.24\00:31:17.11
Yeah.
00:31:17.14\00:31:18.47
And it was a
beautiful experience.
00:31:18.51\00:31:19.84
Absolutely.
00:31:19.87\00:31:21.21
And, you know, I
wish I could describe
00:31:21.24\00:31:24.01
the feeling that we felt
in that first women's block.
00:31:24.05\00:31:27.78
Just as soon as we prayed,
00:31:27.82\00:31:29.48
you could just feel
God's presence start to move
00:31:29.52\00:31:32.95
through the whole cell.
00:31:32.99\00:31:35.69
And let me tell you, Jill,
whenever God starts moving,
00:31:35.72\00:31:38.99
Satan is not happy
about it. Not happy.
00:31:39.03\00:31:41.33
Because we experienced
that in the very next cell.
00:31:41.36\00:31:44.40
The second one?
00:31:44.43\00:31:45.77
There was a lady
in that cell who...
00:31:45.80\00:31:48.07
She just seemed
to not want to hear
00:31:48.10\00:31:50.11
what we had to talk about.
00:31:50.14\00:31:51.51
Not that, not even just that,
00:31:51.54\00:31:52.87
she didn't want
anybody else to hear it.
00:31:52.91\00:31:54.34
She didn't want anybody to hear.
00:31:54.38\00:31:56.24
Who is it?
00:31:56.28\00:31:57.61
Yeah, she was just yelling
00:31:57.65\00:31:59.15
and singing and
hitting her bars and...
00:31:59.18\00:32:01.15
Flushing the toilet,
having a echo everywhere...
00:32:01.18\00:32:03.18
It was so distracting.
00:32:03.22\00:32:05.42
And, you know, I
felt very discouraged.
00:32:05.45\00:32:07.22
And I was like, man, we
didn't reach these ladies
00:32:07.26\00:32:10.36
and no one heard a
single word that we said.
00:32:10.39\00:32:12.99
No one was even
paying attention.
00:32:13.03\00:32:14.96
And, you know, we
started passing out the bags,
00:32:15.00\00:32:17.27
and everyone got their Bibles.
00:32:17.30\00:32:19.13
And Tiara and I went through
00:32:19.17\00:32:20.50
and we
highlighted a few scriptures
00:32:20.54\00:32:22.20
for the ladies in the Bible.
00:32:22.24\00:32:24.04
And there was
this one girl, Lauren.
00:32:24.07\00:32:26.31
Lauren. She's young.
00:32:26.34\00:32:28.24
She had to be close to our age.
00:32:28.28\00:32:29.88
Yeah, early 20s. Yeah.
00:32:29.91\00:32:31.25
And we were sitting in her cell
00:32:31.28\00:32:33.45
floor and we
were just showing her
00:32:33.48\00:32:34.82
some of the scriptures
that we had highlighted.
00:32:34.85\00:32:37.02
And I remember God telling me,
00:32:37.05\00:32:39.85
He said, "Jewlee, you
need to pray for her."
00:32:39.89\00:32:42.32
And I said,
"God, I can't do that.
00:32:42.36\00:32:45.59
I don't know what
I'm supposed to say.
00:32:45.63\00:32:47.36
I'm not good at
this kind of thing."
00:32:47.40\00:32:49.03
And He says, "Jewlee,
you need to pray for her."
00:32:49.06\00:32:51.53
And I was like,
00:32:51.57\00:32:52.90
"But God, Lemuel,
he's right outside here.
00:32:52.93\00:32:55.20
He could do it.
00:32:55.24\00:32:56.57
Anyone else, God, just not me."
00:32:56.60\00:32:58.57
And He said, "You
need to pray for her."
00:32:58.61\00:33:01.01
And so I remember we
get to this one scripture,
00:33:01.04\00:33:04.75
and it says, "I have
come that you can have life
00:33:04.78\00:33:07.72
and have it more abundantly."
00:33:07.75\00:33:09.68
And I remember she
pointed to that scripture
00:33:09.72\00:33:11.92
and she said, "That one.
00:33:11.95\00:33:14.22
That's what I'm going to
have when I get out of here.
00:33:14.26\00:33:16.93
I'm going to
have abundant life."
00:33:16.96\00:33:18.79
This is Lauren we're
looking at right now?
00:33:18.83\00:33:20.16
Yeah.
00:33:20.20\00:33:21.53
And I said, "Lauren,
you don't have to wait.
00:33:21.56\00:33:22.93
You can have
abundant life right in here."
00:33:22.96\00:33:25.40
And she said, "I know."
00:33:25.43\00:33:26.77
And I looked at
her I said, "Lauren,
00:33:26.80\00:33:28.80
can we pray with you?"
00:33:28.84\00:33:30.41
So then Tiara and I,
00:33:30.44\00:33:31.77
we grabbed hands, and we just...
00:33:31.81\00:33:33.14
We began to pray over her.
00:33:33.17\00:33:35.18
And you could just see tears
00:33:35.21\00:33:37.25
begin to just
stream down her face.
00:33:37.28\00:33:40.12
And she said, "I'm
sorry, I'm so sorry.
00:33:40.15\00:33:43.12
It's just you don't
know what this means to me."
00:33:43.15\00:33:45.59
She says people don't do
this. People don't do this.
00:33:45.62\00:33:47.96
She's been there for a while.
00:33:47.99\00:33:49.46
"People don't do that
for us." Is what she said.
00:33:49.49\00:33:51.53
And honestly,
that was the highlight
00:33:51.56\00:33:53.70
of the whole trip for me.
00:33:53.73\00:33:55.13
Just being there in
that moment with Lauren
00:33:55.16\00:33:58.13
to see that
transformation happen.
00:33:58.17\00:34:00.57
It was so powerful
00:34:00.60\00:34:01.94
because here we
were discouraged.
00:34:01.97\00:34:03.74
And we thought no one
got anything from this,
00:34:03.77\00:34:06.84
it didn't go the
way we had planned.
00:34:06.88\00:34:09.61
Like God didn't show up
like He did in the last one,
00:34:09.64\00:34:12.78
but little did we know...
00:34:12.81\00:34:14.32
We didn't know nothing.
00:34:14.35\00:34:15.68
God was moving
in inside, you know?
00:34:15.72\00:34:17.99
You know, it's funny that
we walked in there thinking,
00:34:18.02\00:34:20.06
okay, this is the way
that we're going to witness.
00:34:20.09\00:34:21.66
This is, you know,
what we're supposed to do.
00:34:21.69\00:34:23.29
We're supposed to do the skit.
00:34:23.32\00:34:24.66
You know, after that we're like,
00:34:24.69\00:34:26.03
well, that wasn't witnessing.
00:34:26.06\00:34:27.40
Nobody heard it. But
God had a different plan.
00:34:27.43\00:34:29.16
And it's just
amazing what happens
00:34:29.20\00:34:31.03
when you go in
there thinking one way,
00:34:31.07\00:34:32.97
but you listen to God
00:34:33.00\00:34:34.34
and you go the other
way that He has you to do.
00:34:34.37\00:34:36.20
And that experience with
Lauren was absolutely beautiful.
00:34:36.24\00:34:39.27
It was beautiful. Praise God.
00:34:39.31\00:34:40.64
Wow, amen. Go ahead, Jason.
00:34:40.68\00:34:42.01
I do want to say that that
young lady that was singing
00:34:42.04\00:34:44.81
and being all loud
and all of that stuff,
00:34:44.85\00:34:47.32
directly after that,
00:34:47.35\00:34:48.68
Lemuel and I had a
chance to pray with her,
00:34:48.72\00:34:50.79
to speak with her
to all of that stuff.
00:34:50.82\00:34:52.95
So God was still moving
even on her heart as well.
00:34:52.99\00:34:56.22
While they were
praying with that girl
00:34:56.26\00:34:58.16
in that cell on the floor,
we were there talking to her.
00:34:58.19\00:35:01.76
Amen.
00:35:01.80\00:35:03.13
That was the revival,
Brad, that you texted me
00:35:03.16\00:35:04.50
about right after that
trip was going on in the jail.
00:35:04.53\00:35:07.04
So Ian, Luis, I
come to you guys here.
00:35:07.07\00:35:10.41
So you all went into the jail
00:35:10.44\00:35:12.67
in Boone County
to run camera, right?
00:35:12.71\00:35:14.84
Your responsibilities
00:35:14.88\00:35:16.21
and take care of
the work details,
00:35:16.24\00:35:18.01
but tell me about
your experience in there,
00:35:18.05\00:35:19.91
because it wasn't just work?
00:35:19.95\00:35:21.45
Luis, let's start with you.
00:35:21.48\00:35:23.59
Well, we decided somehow
00:35:23.62\00:35:27.12
that I'm going
to run one camera.
00:35:27.16\00:35:29.39
So I was getting
all the close-up shots.
00:35:29.42\00:35:32.93
And then the first one
like they were saying...
00:35:32.96\00:35:36.10
I mean, I know Jewlee and
Tiara now for a little bit
00:35:36.13\00:35:38.77
and they always funny.
00:35:38.80\00:35:40.14
And, you know, I've
heard some of their skits
00:35:40.17\00:35:42.97
and it's always funny.
00:35:43.00\00:35:44.67
And I'm like, well,
00:35:44.71\00:35:46.04
this is going
to be one of those.
00:35:46.07\00:35:47.41
And I'm, you know,
00:35:47.44\00:35:48.78
recording the faces
and they started talking
00:35:48.81\00:35:50.71
and you can feel the whole room.
00:35:50.75\00:35:53.82
Amen. It was something.
00:35:53.85\00:35:56.15
Amen. Because I started shaking.
00:35:56.18\00:35:58.32
Like, I was
trying to hold the camera
00:35:58.35\00:36:00.72
and I'm like,
"I'm not going to cry.
00:36:00.76\00:36:04.49
I'm not going to cry."
00:36:04.53\00:36:05.96
But I'm looking at
the faces of the people.
00:36:05.99\00:36:09.56
Of the inmates.
00:36:09.60\00:36:10.93
Of the inmates
and they're crying.
00:36:10.97\00:36:12.67
And I'm
holding... I'm really like...
00:36:12.70\00:36:16.57
And, you know, it's
a beautiful experience
00:36:16.60\00:36:19.47
because it's the first
time I go into a prison
00:36:19.51\00:36:22.74
and it was incredible to
see such a young people there.
00:36:22.78\00:36:28.78
And... The inmates being young.
00:36:28.82\00:36:30.69
The inmates being very young.
00:36:30.72\00:36:32.79
And, of course, Lemuel
bring all this stuff for them.
00:36:32.82\00:36:39.76
But in reality, I
think we took more.
00:36:39.79\00:36:42.70
They have more to give
to us than what we gave them
00:36:42.73\00:36:47.70
because it was a
beautiful experience.
00:36:47.74\00:36:50.54
Isn't that incredible? Amen.
00:36:50.57\00:36:52.17
You know, you go, yeah.
00:36:52.21\00:36:53.58
You're going to be a
blessing, you end up being...
00:36:53.61\00:36:55.44
You're saying
blessed more than you think
00:36:55.48\00:36:56.85
you blessed them.
00:36:56.88\00:36:58.21
Yeah, it's amazing.
That's the Holy Spirit there.
00:36:58.25\00:36:59.91
What did you take
away from it spiritually
00:36:59.95\00:37:01.85
in your own walk with God?
00:37:01.88\00:37:03.39
Well, visiting people in
jail is something that God
00:37:03.42\00:37:08.92
tell us to do.
00:37:08.96\00:37:10.63
And in my case, I
never did it before.
00:37:10.66\00:37:14.20
And I still
think I didn't do it,
00:37:14.23\00:37:18.10
I just want to
help in the recording.
00:37:18.13\00:37:21.57
But I can see why
00:37:21.60\00:37:23.41
because some of
these people have no hope.
00:37:23.44\00:37:27.38
And even at the
beginning of the skit,
00:37:27.41\00:37:29.38
they were laughing,
00:37:29.41\00:37:30.75
and, you know, to give
00:37:30.78\00:37:32.11
a little bit of
happiness to somebody,
00:37:32.15\00:37:33.82
it fulfills you.
00:37:33.85\00:37:35.18
And then see them cry
00:37:35.22\00:37:36.55
and say thank you for everything
00:37:36.58\00:37:39.85
that we have done.
00:37:39.89\00:37:41.22
Even for the time
we spend with them.
00:37:41.26\00:37:43.66
You know, God's tell you
this is what you have to do.
00:37:43.69\00:37:47.26
You know, we have to give.
00:37:47.30\00:37:48.63
Amen. What about you, Ian?
00:37:48.66\00:37:51.17
So your responsibility there?
00:37:51.20\00:37:52.93
Well, yeah, I was
the muscle really.
00:37:52.97\00:37:55.47
I had to carry all the
bags and everything out there.
00:37:55.50\00:37:59.61
You carried the baggage.
00:37:59.64\00:38:03.24
And I kept an eye
on Tiara and Jewlee
00:38:03.28\00:38:05.81
just to make sure
that they were safe
00:38:05.85\00:38:07.18
because we are in a prison.
00:38:07.22\00:38:08.55
So we still have to, you
know, maintain our awareness.
00:38:08.58\00:38:11.39
But you know,
this was my first time
00:38:11.42\00:38:13.22
into a prison as well.
00:38:13.25\00:38:15.02
I had never done
it before similar to,
00:38:15.06\00:38:16.79
you know, a lot of others here.
00:38:16.83\00:38:18.59
And I went in there
just praying to God hoping
00:38:18.63\00:38:21.23
that I could be a
blessing to somebody there.
00:38:21.26\00:38:23.23
Sure.
00:38:23.26\00:38:24.60
And as everybody else has said,
00:38:24.63\00:38:26.70
I in no way shape or
form blessed anyone else.
00:38:26.74\00:38:30.04
I was the one who was blessed
00:38:30.07\00:38:32.01
because, you know, as
they perform their skit,
00:38:32.04\00:38:34.44
you could see a lot of times
that there were some prisoners
00:38:34.48\00:38:36.71
who were sitting there
00:38:36.75\00:38:38.08
and just wanted
nothing to do with this.
00:38:38.11\00:38:39.48
You know, their
very hard exterior.
00:38:39.51\00:38:41.55
Their faces were just showing
00:38:41.58\00:38:43.75
that they don't
even want even the gifts.
00:38:43.79\00:38:45.55
Then there were some
there who turned them away.
00:38:45.59\00:38:49.26
But as the skit went on,
00:38:49.29\00:38:51.19
you could just see
God breaking down walls
00:38:51.23\00:38:53.70
one by one, by one,
just tearing them down.
00:38:53.73\00:38:57.23
And you started to
feel God's presence
00:38:57.27\00:39:00.27
just fill the room.
00:39:00.30\00:39:01.90
And, you know, that those
hard exteriors that you saw,
00:39:01.94\00:39:05.61
those people who looked
like they didn't care are now...
00:39:05.64\00:39:08.14
They're sitting
forward and they're leaning
00:39:08.18\00:39:09.68
and they're watching the girls.
00:39:09.71\00:39:11.05
And then you
start to see the tears
00:39:11.08\00:39:12.85
like everyone else is saying.
00:39:12.88\00:39:14.22
And, you know,
and I was standing
00:39:14.25\00:39:15.62
next to Jason and
I had my arms crossed
00:39:15.65\00:39:17.85
and I'm looking at
him like, I'm not crying.
00:39:17.89\00:39:20.29
You know, but it
was just amazing to see
00:39:20.32\00:39:25.26
these individuals
00:39:25.29\00:39:26.96
who just at first
wanted nothing to do with it
00:39:27.00\00:39:29.23
and then all of a sudden,
00:39:29.26\00:39:30.60
you know, they
want to talk to you.
00:39:30.63\00:39:33.17
They want to ask
you more about God
00:39:33.20\00:39:34.84
and more about who He is.
00:39:34.87\00:39:37.01
And you try to impart
some kind of wisdom on them,
00:39:37.04\00:39:40.11
but you just feel like you're,
you know, you're not capable.
00:39:40.14\00:39:43.24
You're not qualified to do it.
00:39:43.28\00:39:45.25
But, you know, God
doesn't call the qualified.
00:39:45.28\00:39:48.42
So He qualifies the called.
00:39:48.45\00:39:50.35
And, you know, and
that's what I witnessed
00:39:50.39\00:39:53.22
also seeing with
Tiara and Jewlee.
00:39:53.25\00:39:55.12
It was just
incredible all the way around.
00:39:55.16\00:39:57.99
From seeing their skit
00:39:58.03\00:39:59.36
and how they were
able to perform it,
00:39:59.39\00:40:01.16
how each individual cell
block how they responded to it,
00:40:01.20\00:40:03.63
it was just...
00:40:03.67\00:40:05.00
It was amazing.
00:40:05.03\00:40:06.37
And my outlook on
God was even strengthened
00:40:06.40\00:40:09.44
because you
could see Him at work.
00:40:09.47\00:40:11.24
You can see God
and the Holy Spirit
00:40:11.27\00:40:12.77
just working on every
single individual there.
00:40:12.81\00:40:16.38
It was amazing.
00:40:16.41\00:40:17.75
Why do you think,
00:40:17.78\00:40:19.11
and this could be a
question for anybody,
00:40:19.15\00:40:20.48
but I know you're
talking right now.
00:40:20.52\00:40:22.32
Why do you think God
shows up in such powerful ways
00:40:22.35\00:40:25.72
in during prison ministry?
00:40:25.75\00:40:27.62
I mean, at least
from my perspective,
00:40:27.66\00:40:30.79
those prisoners
00:40:30.83\00:40:32.16
they didn't know
what they needed.
00:40:32.19\00:40:33.76
You know,
00:40:33.80\00:40:35.43
they didn't know at the time
00:40:35.46\00:40:36.97
when they were
first hearing this message
00:40:37.00\00:40:38.50
what they were going to get.
00:40:38.53\00:40:39.93
And I think as God
impressed upon them,
00:40:39.97\00:40:42.30
and they started just
to open up their hearts
00:40:42.34\00:40:44.01
just a little bit.
00:40:44.04\00:40:45.37
Just to open up that door
just enough for God to get in.
00:40:45.41\00:40:48.28
That's when He just
entered each one of their lives
00:40:48.31\00:40:51.11
and that's when they, you know,
00:40:51.15\00:40:53.21
you saw that light shine in them
00:40:53.25\00:40:54.85
and you saw hope in their eyes.
00:40:54.88\00:40:56.38
They didn't have it
before and now they do.
00:40:56.42\00:40:59.05
And it was just God.
00:40:59.09\00:41:02.09
It was all God working.
00:41:02.12\00:41:03.46
Amen.
00:41:03.49\00:41:04.83
Now a lot of the times
I think we miss a blessing
00:41:04.86\00:41:06.70
because we just don't obey
what God is asking us to do.
00:41:06.73\00:41:10.97
I mean, like I said, you
know, I don't want to go and,
00:41:11.00\00:41:16.27
you know, to have to give
this to them or talk to them.
00:41:16.30\00:41:19.67
But then when you go, the
blessing of being there...
00:41:19.71\00:41:23.98
Because it's
the presence of God,
00:41:24.01\00:41:25.51
like they were saying.
00:41:25.55\00:41:27.25
I mean, you are what
God wants to be with you.
00:41:27.28\00:41:31.09
And if you're there, then
He's going to be with you.
00:41:31.12\00:41:33.49
And the blessing
is for all of us.
00:41:33.52\00:41:35.66
Amen.
00:41:35.69\00:41:37.89
Yeah, thank you,
00:41:37.93\00:41:39.43
you know, for being
willing to let God use you.
00:41:39.46\00:41:41.56
You know, you
didn't go in just as a job,
00:41:41.60\00:41:43.50
you know, you
allowed the Holy Spirit
00:41:43.53\00:41:44.87
to work through you.
00:41:44.90\00:41:46.23
And yeah, it's just as powerful.
00:41:46.27\00:41:48.30
Let's... Ben,
you were there too.
00:41:48.34\00:41:50.24
And let's talk about your
experience there too, Ben.
00:41:50.27\00:41:53.27
What you observed
then also let's...
00:41:53.31\00:41:54.98
Lemuel as well.
00:41:55.01\00:41:56.34
Let's talk about
the Captain Turner
00:41:56.38\00:41:57.71
'cause that's
another key piece to this
00:41:57.75\00:41:59.08
whole revival aspect
that was taking place.
00:41:59.11\00:42:00.45
Ben this...
00:42:00.48\00:42:01.82
Yeah, what was your experience?
00:42:01.85\00:42:03.18
Yeah, I was, you know,
leaving when we left the prison
00:42:03.22\00:42:04.99
that day and it was a long day.
00:42:05.02\00:42:06.39
Yeah, we worked I
think, like 15 or 16 hours,
00:42:06.42\00:42:09.26
because we started
like 5:00 AM in the morning.
00:42:09.29\00:42:11.03
So it was really early.
00:42:11.06\00:42:12.39
Ben, did you have a smile
00:42:12.43\00:42:13.76
on your face at
the end of the day?
00:42:13.80\00:42:15.13
You know, I did but I
think it was kind of weaning off
00:42:15.16\00:42:17.73
at about 6 o'clock.
00:42:17.77\00:42:19.60
But anyway,
00:42:19.63\00:42:20.97
you know, I was so
overwhelmed in a good way.
00:42:21.00\00:42:22.60
Being in the
presence of the Lord
00:42:22.64\00:42:24.07
is such an amazing experience,
00:42:24.11\00:42:25.67
and going to those prisoners
00:42:25.71\00:42:29.78
and being able
to witness to them
00:42:29.81\00:42:31.98
and to pray with them
00:42:32.01\00:42:33.42
was just something
that strengthened my faith.
00:42:33.45\00:42:36.15
And really,
there's something about...
00:42:36.18\00:42:38.15
Something that makes you bold
00:42:38.19\00:42:40.49
when you're with people
who are fellow believers
00:42:40.52\00:42:43.99
and have the same drive
00:42:44.03\00:42:45.63
to share the gospel with people.
00:42:45.66\00:42:47.86
And I know I had the
opportunity to play guitar
00:42:47.90\00:42:50.43
for Tiara and Jewlee
at the end of their skit
00:42:50.47\00:42:53.07
and that was a lot
of fun and a blessing.
00:42:53.10\00:42:54.97
But, you know, sometimes
because we're in production
00:42:55.00\00:42:57.64
and it is work, it is.
00:42:57.67\00:42:59.27
And we sometimes get,
00:42:59.31\00:43:01.28
I guess you could say distracted
00:43:01.31\00:43:03.31
or caught up in the details
00:43:03.35\00:43:05.65
and the technical
aspects of what we do
00:43:05.68\00:43:07.68
that we can sometimes forget
00:43:07.72\00:43:09.85
the impact that what
we're doing is making.
00:43:09.88\00:43:12.52
So to see that in action
was something that was...
00:43:12.55\00:43:15.76
Something that filled my spirit
and I was blessed by that, so.
00:43:15.79\00:43:18.49
Was it your
first time in a prison?
00:43:18.53\00:43:19.86
It was.
00:43:19.89\00:43:21.23
It was my first time
ever going to a prison.
00:43:21.26\00:43:25.53
So, Lemuel, how often do guitars
00:43:25.57\00:43:27.67
and musical instruments
get to make it behind bars?
00:43:27.70\00:43:30.41
Not very often.
00:43:30.44\00:43:31.77
Not very often.
You did a great job.
00:43:31.81\00:43:33.61
So that was a real treat too.
00:43:33.64\00:43:34.98
Absolutely. Yeah.
00:43:35.01\00:43:36.61
So talk to us
about Captain Turner,
00:43:36.64\00:43:38.31
because this is powerful.
00:43:38.35\00:43:39.68
Then Lemuel, Brad,
you, you met the man.
00:43:39.71\00:43:41.35
I did.
00:43:41.38\00:43:42.72
You know, Captain
Turner is probably
00:43:42.75\00:43:46.32
one of the most
on-fire Christians
00:43:46.35\00:43:47.92
I've ever seen in my life.
00:43:47.96\00:43:49.69
I mean, this story, he told us
00:43:49.72\00:43:51.16
a little bit of
his personal testimony
00:43:51.19\00:43:52.86
and how God pulled
him out of addiction.
00:43:52.89\00:43:54.66
I think he was...
00:43:54.70\00:43:56.03
He had some
past things like that
00:43:56.06\00:43:58.00
and it was just really touching.
00:43:58.03\00:43:59.37
And to see someone, a
leader in that situation
00:43:59.40\00:44:05.61
who was so on fire
00:44:05.64\00:44:06.98
and so intentional of
not only having the inmate
00:44:07.01\00:44:10.41
ministered to
but also his staff.
00:44:10.45\00:44:12.71
That was something
that was powerful to see.
00:44:12.75\00:44:14.85
And so I was just so like,
just blessed by his presence.
00:44:14.88\00:44:19.19
He prayed with us.
00:44:19.22\00:44:20.56
He was so behind the
mission of what we were doing
00:44:20.59\00:44:22.62
and so I mean, amazing man.
00:44:22.66\00:44:24.56
Just a blessing
to be around him, so.
00:44:24.59\00:44:26.56
Amen.
00:44:26.59\00:44:27.93
He told me the
sheriff asked him he said,
00:44:27.96\00:44:29.30
"What would you say if I
wanted you to run my jail?"
00:44:29.33\00:44:32.00
He said, "I'd say you're crazy."
00:44:32.03\00:44:33.44
He said, "No, really,
00:44:33.47\00:44:34.80
what would you say if I
asked you to run my jail?"
00:44:34.84\00:44:36.60
He said the same answer.
00:44:36.64\00:44:37.97
He said, "I'd say you're crazy."
00:44:38.01\00:44:39.34
He never had the
experience of running a jail.
00:44:39.37\00:44:41.18
He'd been a
correctional officer in a prison
00:44:41.21\00:44:43.65
for years and now
he's there in the capacity.
00:44:43.68\00:44:47.52
He has all the
other officers under him,
00:44:47.55\00:44:49.62
and it's just
amazing that he said
00:44:49.65\00:44:53.56
that he'd been
praying for revival
00:44:53.59\00:44:55.36
before we come to his place.
00:44:55.39\00:44:56.99
Before I even called him,
he's been praying for revival.
00:44:57.03\00:44:59.96
And through what he
said, I made a decision.
00:45:00.00\00:45:03.20
I had some study
Bibles I had been saving
00:45:03.23\00:45:05.87
for some special circumstances.
00:45:05.90\00:45:07.47
Maybe somebody's
got life in prison
00:45:07.50\00:45:08.94
or 20 years in
prison or whatever.
00:45:08.97\00:45:10.37
I've been saving
these study Bibles.
00:45:10.41\00:45:12.41
And I asked he said, "Will you
bring them some study Bibles?"
00:45:12.44\00:45:14.74
So we took 150 of
those study Bibles.
00:45:14.78\00:45:16.68
We gave every inmate
one of those study Bibles.
00:45:16.71\00:45:19.31
They're very, very expensive.
00:45:19.35\00:45:21.32
And he just called,
he sent me an email,
00:45:21.35\00:45:24.69
"I wanted to know if you could
00:45:24.72\00:45:26.05
get some Spanish study Bibles."
00:45:26.09\00:45:27.56
I felt so bad
00:45:27.59\00:45:28.92
because I said," Man,
we're going to give somebody
00:45:28.96\00:45:30.29
a cheap $5 paperback study Bible
00:45:30.33\00:45:32.73
because it's Spanish."
00:45:32.76\00:45:34.10
"And here on the shelf
00:45:34.13\00:45:35.46
I found some of the
same mission study Bibles
00:45:35.50\00:45:37.60
that we had
that were in Spanish.
00:45:37.63\00:45:39.20
So I'm going to
deliver those on my way home.
00:45:39.23\00:45:41.27
So God is good. Praise God.
00:45:41.30\00:45:44.24
Amen.
00:45:44.27\00:45:45.67
Jason, you met
Captain Turner too
00:45:45.71\00:45:47.28
and interacted with him.
00:45:47.31\00:45:48.64
What was your
feedback from that?
00:45:48.68\00:45:50.88
He's the type of individual
00:45:50.91\00:45:53.05
that gives you
hope for humanity.
00:45:53.08\00:45:55.75
After meeting him,
00:45:55.78\00:45:57.35
I was just blown
away that somebody
00:45:57.39\00:45:59.75
that's in the
position that he's in
00:45:59.79\00:46:01.66
cared so much about the
people that he's overseeing.
00:46:01.69\00:46:05.73
You can tell that he
genuinely cares about them.
00:46:05.76\00:46:08.76
He cares about their well-being
00:46:08.80\00:46:10.30
and he wants to
see them do better.
00:46:10.33\00:46:12.83
I remember we were sitting there
00:46:12.87\00:46:14.40
and he was
sharing his testimony.
00:46:14.44\00:46:15.84
He even began to...
00:46:15.87\00:46:17.27
I don't want to
put him on the spot,
00:46:17.31\00:46:18.64
but he may or may not
have teared up a little bit.
00:46:18.67\00:46:22.68
And, you know,
he's so incredible.
00:46:22.71\00:46:26.01
I'm searching for this.
00:46:26.05\00:46:27.38
Here it is.
00:46:27.42\00:46:28.75
There's a challenge coin
that he gave to each one of us.
00:46:28.78\00:46:31.79
It says on the back
integrity, leadership, loyalty,
00:46:31.82\00:46:36.32
professionalism, and commitment.
00:46:36.36\00:46:38.46
And then it has Bible
verse reference on there.
00:46:38.49\00:46:41.20
John 15:13, and it
says, "In God, we trust."
00:46:41.23\00:46:45.67
And so, it's just
really, you know, powerful.
00:46:45.70\00:46:49.27
I don't know if this can
get me out of a speeding ticket.
00:46:49.30\00:46:52.84
I don't know, but
we might try that.
00:46:52.87\00:46:57.15
But he was just an
incredible individual.
00:46:57.18\00:47:00.42
I looked in the
mail the other day,
00:47:00.45\00:47:02.95
what I saw on my desk, actually,
00:47:02.98\00:47:04.95
that I had a card from him.
00:47:04.99\00:47:07.12
Unfortunately,
someone had passed away
00:47:07.16\00:47:09.36
and he sent his condolences.
00:47:09.39\00:47:11.36
That's a...
00:47:11.39\00:47:12.73
He's a busy, busy, busy
man and sent his condolences.
00:47:12.76\00:47:17.30
That's the type
of guy that he is.
00:47:17.33\00:47:19.63
Just the real
deal. The real deal.
00:47:19.67\00:47:21.80
You know, he believes in Jesus
and it just shines through him.
00:47:21.84\00:47:27.41
It shines through him.
00:47:27.44\00:47:28.84
He was... He's a big guy.
00:47:28.88\00:47:30.71
Nice uniform, you
know, serious face.
00:47:30.75\00:47:36.12
But when he opens his
mouth, he was a blessing.
00:47:36.15\00:47:39.92
He was a blessing.
00:47:39.95\00:47:41.42
Amen. He's quick too.
00:47:41.46\00:47:43.26
I saw him pull those cuffs out.
00:47:43.29\00:47:47.03
I was like, wow.
00:47:47.06\00:47:51.70
So, yeah, amazing guy.
00:47:51.73\00:47:54.74
Brad, this is for you kind
of putting you on the spot here.
00:47:54.77\00:47:57.07
Thank you. She warned you.
00:47:57.11\00:48:01.61
So I know working
with Christmas Behind Bars,
00:48:01.64\00:48:04.88
of course, is work too.
00:48:04.91\00:48:06.28
But tell me
00:48:06.31\00:48:07.65
why are you so
passionate about the ministry
00:48:07.68\00:48:09.82
of Christmas Behind Bars,
00:48:09.85\00:48:11.19
and why do you
go above and beyond
00:48:11.22\00:48:12.59
and work with this ministry?
00:48:12.62\00:48:14.52
Well, I don't want to
say it's selfish reasons.
00:48:14.56\00:48:17.69
But when you're...
00:48:17.73\00:48:19.43
When you get to
minister to people
00:48:19.46\00:48:21.16
that just there's no light
involved in their thinking,
00:48:21.20\00:48:27.04
they think there's no hope
00:48:27.07\00:48:28.87
and you give
them that little spark
00:48:28.90\00:48:30.54
and you see
something growing out of that.
00:48:30.57\00:48:34.61
Almost addictive, I guess.
00:48:34.64\00:48:35.98
When you can see the work
00:48:36.01\00:48:38.61
and just see the people
that Lemuel's and his team
00:48:38.65\00:48:41.58
and the work that they're
doing going into places...
00:48:41.62\00:48:45.39
You know, prison's not a place
00:48:45.42\00:48:47.22
that Christians
even like to go to.
00:48:47.26\00:48:50.09
So a lot of the times,
00:48:50.13\00:48:51.53
you know, the
work isn't being done.
00:48:51.56\00:48:54.00
And when Lemuel comes
there you can you can hear
00:48:54.03\00:48:58.50
so many people knowing Lemuel
00:48:58.53\00:49:00.47
through the bars or
through the windows,
00:49:00.50\00:49:02.10
they'll see him walking down.
00:49:02.14\00:49:03.47
It's because, I
think, he gives them hope
00:49:03.51\00:49:05.27
when a lot of
Christians aren't doing the job
00:49:05.31\00:49:08.44
of spreading the Word.
00:49:08.48\00:49:10.21
And, yeah, it's...
00:49:10.25\00:49:11.78
I think there's addiction
of seeing the spread of God
00:49:11.81\00:49:16.92
in places where
00:49:16.95\00:49:18.29
it's the darkest
corners of the world,
00:49:18.32\00:49:20.66
it seems like,
and you bring in light
00:49:20.69\00:49:23.09
into a darker world.
00:49:23.12\00:49:24.66
It's a life
changing experience for sure.
00:49:24.69\00:49:27.36
We can't wait for the next one.
00:49:27.40\00:49:28.80
Yeah. We're ready to
go. They're ready to go.
00:49:28.83\00:49:30.77
They're ready to
go and do this again.
00:49:30.80\00:49:32.80
We're all in with this.
00:49:32.83\00:49:34.17
So, Lemuel, our time
has gone by so quickly.
00:49:34.20\00:49:36.17
So...
00:49:36.20\00:49:37.54
But tell us some goals,
00:49:37.57\00:49:38.91
some needs maybe for
Christmas Behind Bars
00:49:38.94\00:49:40.28
and Jill will give the
contact information that...
00:49:40.31\00:49:42.04
Well, we could
use diesel fuel money.
00:49:42.08\00:49:44.21
I mean, to go to Texas
it was like over $1,000
00:49:44.25\00:49:46.88
to take the packages
down to Lockhart, Texas.
00:49:46.92\00:49:49.68
We'd like to get a
truck of our own right now.
00:49:49.72\00:49:51.92
We have a truck that
someone's just letting us use
00:49:51.95\00:49:54.16
and so, yeah, Bibles.
00:49:54.19\00:49:56.56
We need Bibles, you
know, so people can send
00:49:56.59\00:49:58.53
new or used Bibles.
00:49:58.56\00:49:59.89
Send them to us.
00:49:59.93\00:50:01.26
Send them to 3ABN
00:50:01.30\00:50:02.63
and I know you'll
get them to us soon.
00:50:02.66\00:50:04.00
Anyway, this is
called energized evangelism.
00:50:04.03\00:50:06.77
So thank you, Mr. Walker.
00:50:06.80\00:50:08.14
Everybody here, thank you.
00:50:08.17\00:50:10.61
Yeah, you know, for
as Christmas Behind Bars,
00:50:10.64\00:50:12.77
you know, you're
talking about those packages
00:50:12.81\00:50:14.14
and things that are going there.
00:50:14.18\00:50:15.51
And I love that you have in
there the literature aspect,
00:50:15.54\00:50:17.25
but also a way
for people to contact.
00:50:17.28\00:50:19.28
Correct. Right? Yep.
00:50:19.31\00:50:20.65
So that's a...
00:50:20.68\00:50:22.02
3ABN has a part in that
too and it's a blessing.
00:50:22.05\00:50:23.95
We believe in, of
course, our prison ministry.
00:50:23.99\00:50:26.02
So ways that they can
contact Christmas Behind Bars.
00:50:26.05\00:50:28.79
Absolutely.
00:50:28.82\00:50:30.16
I can't believe this program
has gone by in such a hurry
00:50:30.19\00:50:32.16
with so many
stories, so many testimonies.
00:50:32.19\00:50:35.36
You know, what I love...
00:50:35.40\00:50:36.83
One of the things I
love the most about 3ABN
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is that the
people who work here,
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this is our family,
our family right here.
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They are passionate
about sharing Jesus.
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I mean, that's why we
come to work every day.
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That's why we do what we do,
because we want to see Jesus,
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as Brad said.
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I love that, Brad.
Come to the darkest places.
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And, you know, Isaiah 60 says,
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"Arise, shine, for
your light has come,
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and the glory of the
Lord is risen upon you."
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There's darkness in this world
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and no place is
darker than in prison
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where there's no hope.
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So what we want to do right now
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is if you want to help support
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the ministry of
Christmas Behind Bars.
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If you want to
financially support them
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with that diesel fleet fuel
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so that Lemuel can keep trucking
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and keep delivering packages.
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If you would like to buy a truck
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or support or give some
money to help purchase a truck
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for Christmas Behind Bars.
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If you would like to
support the Bible initiatives
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so that they can
bring Bibles into prisons.
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At 3ABN, here we
stand with the ministry
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of Christmas Behind Bars
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and we want to
encourage you to do so as well.
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We're going to give you
their contact information
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right now.
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If you would like
to financially support
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Christmas Behind Bars
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and help bring
Bibles to those in need,
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you can mail in your donations
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to PO Box 474,
Bluffton, Indiana 46714.
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You can also
contact them by phone
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at (260) 824-3182.
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That's (260) 824-3182.
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You can also email them
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at
contact@christmasbehindbars.com
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That's
contact@christmasbehindbars.com
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