As you're well aware,
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we're living in
unprecedented times.
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Join us now for
today's special program.
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Removing pain
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Lord, let my words
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Heal a heart that hurts
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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Hello and welcome to
another 3ABN Today program.
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I'm Jason Bradley,
and I'm so glad that you
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decided to join us once
again, as you always do.
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And here with me I have
my copilot Ricky Carter.
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Pleasure to be here.
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Ricky, it's
great to have you here.
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Yeah. Yes, sir.
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We have an exciting
program in store for you,
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a power-packed
program in store for you.
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And I'm looking forward
to diving into that program.
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Ricky, who do we
have here with us?
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We have the Runne family.
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We have Brother
Caleb Runne and his wife...
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Glenda. Good. Glenda Escudero
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And their two
children, Enoch and Jordana.
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It was great to have all of
you here on our program today.
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Thank you for
having us. Yes, thank you.
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Yes. Yes.
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And I'm looking forward to
diving into your background,
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all of that upbringing...
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We're gonna even
go to the upbringing
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and the whole nine yards.
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So excited to get into that.
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But before we do,
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we're gonna be
blessed in song by Moses Brown
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and he is singing
"Because He lives."
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God sent his son
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They called him Jesus
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He came to live
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Heal and forgive
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He bled and died
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To buy my pardon
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An empty grave
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Is there just to prove
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My savior lives
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Because He lives
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I can face tomorrow
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Because He lives
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All fear is gone
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Because I know Yes,
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I know
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He holds the future
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My life is worth the living
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Just because He lives
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And then one day
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I'll cross that river
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I'll fight life's final
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War with pain
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And then as death
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Gives way to victory
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I'll see the lights of glory
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And I'll know
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That my Lord lives
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Because He lives
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I can face tomorrow
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Because My God lives
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All fear is gone
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Because I know
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Yes, I know
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He holds the future
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My life is worth the living Just
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because He lives
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Because God lives
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You can face tomorrow
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Because He lives
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All fear is gone
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Because I know
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Yes, I know
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He holds the future
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My life is worth the living
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Your life can
be worth the living
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O our life is worth the living
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Just because my
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God lives
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Amen.
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Thank you, Brother
Moses, for blessing us
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with that wonderful song.
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"Because He lives."
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What a wonderful
song, what do you think?
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Yeah.
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I'm extremely
happy that He lives.
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You know, we have a risen Savior
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and it was the death,
burial, and resurrection,
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and that has
made a huge difference
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in not only my life
but I know your life
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and I know our
wonderful guests' lives as well.
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What scripture do you
wanna share with us today?
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Yes. I wanna
share Jeremiah 29:11.
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When I was reading a little
bit about your experience,
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this text came to mind.
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"For I know the thoughts
that I think toward you,
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said the Lord, thoughts of peace
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and not of evil to
give you an expected end."
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So, God, He knows your family
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and He's got a plan for you all.
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So I'm excited to
hear about this plan.
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Hmm. So let's dive
into your background.
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Let's find out what
was your upbringing like,
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Caleb, and were you
brought up in the church
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'cause I'm always fascinated
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when people wanna
go into mission work
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and go out of the country
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and we're gonna get to that too.
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That's just a little preview.
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But let's go
into your background.
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I guess I'll
start with my parents
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because they were
missionaries in Guatemala.
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My dad's from the United States
and my mom's from Nicaragua.
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And they met in Guatemala
and were married there.
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And it was at an
Adventist institute,
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a health Institute.
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So from there, they
moved back to the United States
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and I was born in Florida.
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And so I was raised in
the church and raised on,
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I guess, the
health message really.
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And so our family is always kind
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of almost
missionaries and training,
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just the way we were raised.
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And that led me to eventually
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decide to become My
father is a chiropractor.
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Oh, okay.
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And I decided I would go
that route because we had such,
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I guess, a healthy upbringing.
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And I thought, you know,
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I wanna have that for my family.
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So whether I was
going to be a chiropractor
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or work
construction or, you know,
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whatever it is
that God had for me,
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I wanted to know those
things to be able to have
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that for my family.
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Wow.
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And I know also as I
was studying chiropractic,
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there's all kinds of
different techniques.
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And I always
focused for techniques
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that didn't require
tools or electricity
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'cause I always
thought, you know,
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what if I don't have that stuff,
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I wanna be able to
help people anyway.
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So I didn't know, the
Lord was kind of training me
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during that time.
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So that's kind of, I
guess, my health background,
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but grew up in the church,
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took a while for me
to decide to be baptized.
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I was 21 when I
decided to be baptized.
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But, you know,
everybody's got their story,
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ups and downs, and I felt
the Lord really pulling me
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back towards Him in college.
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Did you feel like you
didn't have that relation,
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that personal
relationship because you know,
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sometimes our
parents are in the church
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and all of that stuff,
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but if we don't have
that personal connection,
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like we didn't
grab hold of God yet,
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was that the case for you?
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I'd say so 'cause we
went to the Christian school
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at my church in
Maryville, Tennessee.
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OK.
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And I went first
through eighth grade
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and I knew doctrine and I
knew how I supposed to be.
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And there were
things that made me question
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when I got into high school.
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And that that's
where I kind of fell away.
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And it wasn't until
college that I started studying
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the Bible myself.
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And actually I
was watching 3ABN.
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That was one of the things
that drew me back as well.
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And I realized, you
know what, I'm a baby.
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I don't know all this
stuff that I thought I knew,
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it was only to me now hearsay,
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and finding out
for the first time,
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learning for myself
that began in college really.
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Praise God for that connection
and bringing you back around.
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And, Glenda,
tell us a little bit
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about your background.
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Well, my
background, I'm from Argentina
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as you can notice in my accent.
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And I grew up in the church
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and going also
to Adventist schools
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but always having a
fire for serving the Lord
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and also for adventure.
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And I don't know if He
put that when I was born,
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but I just grew up.
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And now finally, I
think I can get use
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of that natural,
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I'll say, skill
or characteristic.
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So I can...
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Or we as a family
can go into a missionary
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or be part of the missionary,
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a missionary project.
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I studied also in
Argentina and all through
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my kindergarten to
university in Adventist schools.
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And I enjoy that so,
much, but when I was in college,
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I had the honor to
meet my husband there.
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He was just
visiting his brother.
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I was his brother's teacher.
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And we saw...
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First time we saw each
other, we just fell in love.
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And 68 days
after we got married.
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So things can go...
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I think it was
63 days. 63, okay.
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63 days, we might
have to talk after this.
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I'm looking for my wife.
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I got to find
out how you did that.
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Yes.
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But everything was a
miracle actually in God's hands.
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And since then, we
also, before marrying,
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we talk about the desire.
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We both have to be
missionaries and we didn't know,
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but the Lord was
putting that seed in our hearts
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one day to be able to
really have this dream
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come true being missionaries.
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And for some reason, we always
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wanted to be
missionaries overseas.
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And well, now we get to do that
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and hopefully soon
we can go to Guyana.
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Oh, yes. Yes.
With a project there.
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I was wondering about
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some of the
things that you would,
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family would do when
you guys go over to Guyana.
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And did you guys
like music at all?
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Oh, yes,
definitely. Yes, we really do.
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We play a lot of instruments
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and we like to
write songs and...
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Nice. What
instruments do you play?
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Well, I play the piano,
the guitar and the ukulele.
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Oh, nice. How about you, Enoch?
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I can play the
guitar, the banjo.
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I know how to play
dulcimer, but I don't have one,
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know how to play...
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Violin. Violin.
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I know how to play
mandolin, but I don't have one.
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I know how to play ukulele
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and I can play piano right here.
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Wow. That's great.
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You have a musical family.
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Yes. Yes. Yeah.
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And we're planning to bring all
that talent to the field too.
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Amen. Nice.
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So tell us about AWA.
What does AWA stand for?
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It means
Adventist World Aviation.
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Okay. And what does AWA do?
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So they go to places
where you cannot reach
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these places by car, by boat.
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Really the only way
to get in is by flight.
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So they go in and help
people who are kind of isolated.
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So it's funny
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I'm answering your question,
but I won't be the pilot.
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My wife is the one
that's studying to be a pilot.
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Wow. Yeah. Yeah. That's awesome.
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That's awesome. Now who drives?
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I drive. We both do.
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Okay.
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So you're studying to be a pilot
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and what's that training like?
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Well, the training
is a challenge because,
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well, English is
not my first language.
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Okay.
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The
measurements are not the same
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I used to use in Argentina.
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So everything is
different, but praise God,
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I'm learning a lot.
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And I have really wonderful
instructors and it's exciting,
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it's a blessing to be able
to see these guys every week
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and it's really a blessing.
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So yeah, it's wonderful.
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Now does the whole
family get to go up
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with you during your training?
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How does that
work? Well, not yet.
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I mean, they
could come in and watch,
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but we have like a busy family.
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So while they are
at home, we homeschool,
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they are doing their
homework, I do mine in the sky.
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Yes. Got you.
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Got you.
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And so were you
about to say something?
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I'm curious about where
are you guys gonna be going?
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You're going to Guyana, right?
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That's right.
Where is that located?
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So every time we say Guyana,
people say, "Oh, Africa."
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And Guyana is
actually in South America
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and it is actually
people know about Venezuela.
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It's right next to Venezuela.
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And it is also...
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It's an interesting country
because the primary language
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there is English
and right next to them
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is Venezuela on the west.
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And then south is Brazil
where they speak Portuguese.
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And then on the east
side, they have Suriname
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where you've got Dutch
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and then on the east
of them is a French Guyana
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where they speak French.
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It's a really interesting
multi pot there on the coast,
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the upper coast
of South America.
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Hmm.
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So what are the needs
of the Guyanese natives
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and how do you figure
out what those needs are?
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So AWA has been in
Guyana for 25 years, I believe.
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And so, they've
been working there
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with the native people
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and the people on
the coast as well.
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So the information,
we're missionaries at training,
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we've not yet been to Guyana,
but we're gonna go very soon.
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But we heard a story
specifically about a city
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that's in the interior
Guyana, more in the jungle.
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Most of like 80% I
believe of the population
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live on the coast.
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And so, the natives though,
the highest concentration
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of natives is in the interior,
in this place called Bermuda.
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And Bermuda about 10 years ago
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was AWA was flying
in and helping people.
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If they had any
sort of emergencies,
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they would pick them up
and bring them to Georgetown,
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the capital city on the
coast where there's a hospital.
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So I guess there was a time
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where there was
one of the chiefs,
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they call them the Tashou,
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and he was very sick
and they didn't know why.
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Turned out he had appendicitis
and his appendix had ruptured.
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So if they hadn't picked him up,
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he would have died.
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Now the community said,
"We like your airplanes,
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we want you to
be here and help us,
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you know, with that service.
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But we don't wanna
have anything to do
00:17:38.85\00:17:40.22
with your religion."
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So after this though,
after the Tashou got sick
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and was taken to the hospital,
he was able to be cared for
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and brought back home.
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Then he was like,
00:17:51.07\00:17:53.00
"We want you to
build a house here.
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And we want you to
teach us about your God."
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And that was done.
That was 10 years ago.
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And no one has
lived in that house yet.
00:18:03.28\00:18:06.85
So when we heard that,
I'm shivering right now,
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I've got
goosebumps So it's like...
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So the house is waiting
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more than 10 years
for a missionary family,
00:18:12.62\00:18:15.72
that community,
he said a city, okay.
00:18:15.76\00:18:18.59
This is just few
houses on the jungle,
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it's not like we picture a city.
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It's a
population of 4,000 people
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distributed in that community.
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And the house is
waiting there for a family.
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And there is no
Christian prisons
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except for one.
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Yeah.
00:18:39.95\00:18:41.28
For one
community, that one religion
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that when there is missionaries
too, but turned out now
00:18:43.72\00:18:46.05
that they get the
customs of their community
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and they
introduced Algorism too.
00:18:49.99\00:18:52.36
So we feel like
the call is urgent.
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There is, you know,
4,000 people there in the heart
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of the jungle
waiting for the Lord.
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They need hope.
00:19:03.17\00:19:04.51
I mean, the things that
are happening in that community
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are a little scary that even
we are not sharing everything
00:19:06.88\00:19:10.25
with our family,
what is going on there,
00:19:10.28\00:19:13.35
so they let us go.
00:19:13.38\00:19:14.92
But we feel like, yeah,
00:19:14.95\00:19:18.09
we should go the
sooner, the better.
00:19:18.12\00:19:20.79
And we can't wait
because it will be so amazing
00:19:20.82\00:19:25.29
to see the transformations
there that we cannot wait.
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Yeah. That is our hope.
00:19:28.93\00:19:30.27
The biggest
problems that they're facing
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there are alcoholism
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and domestic
abuse because of that
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and then also suicide, and
suicide among young people.
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They really just don't have hope
00:19:42.11\00:19:44.15
that their vocations are mining
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and agriculture.
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But they don't have
very much education.
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In fact, one of the
ways that we wanna reach them
00:19:55.12\00:19:56.69
is with literacy.
00:19:56.73\00:19:58.99
So if we can teach
them to read English,
00:19:59.03\00:20:01.76
they speak English
and their native Carib
00:20:01.80\00:20:04.20
I think it's
called, they don't know
00:20:04.23\00:20:07.74
how to read well.
00:20:07.77\00:20:09.10
So if we can help with literacy
and then we can also share
00:20:09.14\00:20:11.97
the Bible with them
and share hope with them,
00:20:12.01\00:20:14.64
and that's how we
hope to reach them
00:20:14.68\00:20:16.24
is really through literacy.
00:20:16.28\00:20:19.71
The things I can
help in terms of health
00:20:19.75\00:20:22.05
and then with the flights,
bringing them to the hospital
00:20:22.08\00:20:24.95
when there are emergencies.
00:20:24.99\00:20:26.52
Yeah.
00:20:26.55\00:20:27.89
I love that literacy component
because that is so crucial.
00:20:27.92\00:20:31.13
How can you
study the Word of God
00:20:31.16\00:20:32.69
if you can't
read the Word of God?
00:20:32.73\00:20:34.56
So that's powerful.
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What were some things
00:20:36.56\00:20:37.90
that went through your minds as,
00:20:37.93\00:20:40.54
you know, you were
thinking about missionary work
00:20:40.57\00:20:42.90
and leaving the United States
to go live in another country
00:20:42.94\00:20:46.91
and serve?
00:20:46.94\00:20:49.24
I guess I've visited
many other countries.
00:20:49.28\00:20:52.08
So I think that opens
your eyes and you realize
00:20:52.11\00:20:54.95
that the world is quite diverse
00:20:54.98\00:20:57.92
and that diversity
is actually beautiful.
00:20:57.95\00:21:00.32
And kind of it's exciting
to be able to experience that
00:21:00.36\00:21:03.06
and learn new things.
00:21:03.09\00:21:04.69
Glenda is not from here.
00:21:04.73\00:21:06.66
So she knows
exactly what it's like
00:21:06.70\00:21:08.26
to leave her country.
00:21:08.30\00:21:10.23
Yes.
00:21:10.27\00:21:11.60
And I experienced already
00:21:11.63\00:21:12.97
the culture shock
moving from Argentina to here.
00:21:13.00\00:21:17.41
So I think that was part
of God's plan also, training,
00:21:17.44\00:21:21.11
He was training us before.
00:21:21.14\00:21:22.98
And now, I feel like I can
help my family with transition
00:21:23.01\00:21:28.45
when we get there
and that's something that
00:21:28.48\00:21:30.72
we are also doing
with the children,
00:21:30.75\00:21:32.09
and we actually were
talking recently about...
00:21:32.12\00:21:34.59
that they're going
to be things different
00:21:34.62\00:21:37.09
and it will take It
took me a year to adapt.
00:21:37.13\00:21:40.90
So I think I can help my family.
00:21:40.93\00:21:43.63
And yes, definitely,
00:21:43.67\00:21:45.00
God was preparing us
for this mission now.
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Amen. Amen. Amen.
00:21:49.07\00:21:50.41
Speaking of
that, how did you know
00:21:50.44\00:21:52.91
when God was
calling you to this mission?
00:21:52.94\00:21:56.18
That's such a good question.
00:21:56.21\00:21:57.55
I always Someone
asked me that question.
00:21:57.58\00:22:00.48
I had to think, I
was like, "How do I know,
00:22:00.52\00:22:02.35
how is this from God?"
00:22:02.38\00:22:03.82
And it occurred to me
that where we're going
00:22:03.85\00:22:07.96
and what we're going to do,
00:22:07.99\00:22:09.92
it doesn't make logical sense
00:22:09.96\00:22:11.96
if we're looking at it
from a human perspective.
00:22:11.99\00:22:14.16
We're going to a place
where there's no electricity,
00:22:14.20\00:22:17.57
there's no
running water, no sewer.
00:22:17.60\00:22:20.34
And in the middle of nowhere,
we're leaving all our friends
00:22:20.37\00:22:22.54
and family and
our loved ones behind.
00:22:22.57\00:22:25.31
That doesn't make
sense in human logic
00:22:25.34\00:22:27.98
and yet God has
placed it on our hearts.
00:22:28.01\00:22:29.81
And when we heard the story,
00:22:29.84\00:22:31.18
like we were
telling you about Bermuda,
00:22:31.21\00:22:33.15
it's like all of us
were in unity about it.
00:22:33.18\00:22:35.85
We need to go there.
00:22:35.88\00:22:37.55
And so the Holy Spirit
had to be the one that put
00:22:37.59\00:22:41.02
that on our hearts.
00:22:41.06\00:22:42.39
It's not
something that came from us.
00:22:42.42\00:22:46.03
I guess that's how.
00:22:46.06\00:22:47.40
So how did you talk
to the kids about this
00:22:47.43\00:22:51.93
and what was that
conversation like?
00:22:51.97\00:22:54.80
I actually don't
remember it well.
00:22:54.84\00:22:57.37
Yes, because I
mean, we homeschool,
00:22:57.41\00:23:00.18
we have a different
type of life and we do a lot
00:23:00.21\00:23:03.35
of things in nature.
00:23:03.38\00:23:04.88
So just telling them
that we are planning to go
00:23:04.91\00:23:08.95
or we have this call
from God to go to Guyana,
00:23:08.98\00:23:12.72
it was for them a big like yes,
00:23:12.75\00:23:16.22
a big adventure.
00:23:16.26\00:23:17.59
And I think for
Jordana, it was even easier,
00:23:17.63\00:23:20.26
a little bit easier and Enoch,
00:23:20.30\00:23:24.17
we remember that once
00:23:24.20\00:23:26.43
we learned about this really
remote location in Guyana,
00:23:26.47\00:23:30.47
he was very into that too.
00:23:30.51\00:23:34.01
And I think that
they are in the age that,
00:23:34.04\00:23:36.71
you know, they can feel
00:23:36.75\00:23:40.45
ahead that they
will miss their friends
00:23:40.48\00:23:42.92
and it's going to be hard,
but still they feel that it
00:23:42.95\00:23:47.59
is very worth it to do this.
00:23:47.62\00:23:49.02
Yes.
00:23:49.06\00:23:50.56
As far as being missionaries,
00:23:50.59\00:23:53.19
are there any
special qualifications
00:23:53.23\00:23:55.70
that are needed
to be a missionary?
00:23:55.73\00:23:57.10
I mean, are you guys bringing
any special qualifications
00:23:57.13\00:23:59.27
for being missionaries?
00:23:59.30\00:24:00.70
Have the call.
00:24:00.74\00:24:02.07
That's it, the harvest is white.
00:24:02.10\00:24:04.27
So, you know, God
wants people to go
00:24:04.31\00:24:07.01
and I think He's gonna
place it on their hearts
00:24:07.04\00:24:09.31
when they should go
00:24:09.34\00:24:11.05
and He will provide the means
00:24:11.08\00:24:12.71
and He's gonna
provide the abilities.
00:24:12.75\00:24:14.48
We have things that we
bring maybe character traits
00:24:14.52\00:24:19.39
or training or whatever
it is that our background
00:24:19.42\00:24:22.12
is that we feel we could
help the people in Guyana.
00:24:22.16\00:24:25.73
But really we will get
there and God may use us
00:24:25.76\00:24:28.70
in a totally
different way than we expect.
00:24:28.73\00:24:30.40
And so...
00:24:30.43\00:24:32.20
Still, we are trying to
prepare ourselves the best
00:24:32.23\00:24:35.94
we can because
this is His mission.
00:24:35.97\00:24:39.17
So we want to know, you know,
I'm doing the pilot training.
00:24:39.21\00:24:43.38
And he has been, you
know, trying to get as simple
00:24:43.41\00:24:47.48
as he can within his practice.
00:24:47.52\00:24:50.19
Children, they have been
learning survival skills,
00:24:50.22\00:24:54.89
gardening, and construction,
00:24:54.92\00:24:58.26
and a lot of things
that maybe here in US
00:24:58.29\00:25:01.70
can be like a
hobby, but there in Guyana,
00:25:01.73\00:25:04.23
we will need it for survive.
00:25:04.27\00:25:08.00
That's a necessity.
It will be a necessity.
00:25:08.04\00:25:10.61
Yes.
00:25:10.64\00:25:12.01
And I also think
that like the main thing
00:25:12.04\00:25:14.24
is to look for where God
is working and then join Him.
00:25:14.28\00:25:18.55
Amen. Amen.
00:25:18.58\00:25:20.68
We could end the
program on that one.
00:25:20.72\00:25:22.95
That was very, very good.
00:25:22.98\00:25:24.69
Excellent. Excellent.
00:25:24.72\00:25:26.69
What do you
anticipate will be some
00:25:26.72\00:25:28.76
of the
challenges that you'll face?
00:25:28.79\00:25:31.13
So I mean, just the
adapting to the changes.
00:25:31.16\00:25:33.93
We won't, again, have
electricity on a regular basis.
00:25:33.96\00:25:37.07
It's very hot, humid.
00:25:37.10\00:25:39.27
There are different
animals, different insects.
00:25:39.30\00:25:43.14
The culture is
different and I think
00:25:43.17\00:25:45.61
I've had experience
with different cultures
00:25:45.64\00:25:47.78
and my wife has
too, and Jordana is kind
00:25:47.81\00:25:50.75
of more adaptable.
00:25:50.78\00:25:52.51
And Enoch has had
maybe the hardest time
00:25:52.55\00:25:54.45
with thinking about,
"Man, this is America.
00:25:54.48\00:25:57.89
I love America. And
I wanna go fishing."
00:25:57.92\00:26:01.19
And he's got all these things
that he loves from our home.
00:26:01.22\00:26:05.99
So I think those are difficult
to think about changing.
00:26:06.03\00:26:11.10
That's a good
segue. I'm curious.
00:26:11.13\00:26:15.80
How do you two feel about,
00:26:15.84\00:26:18.61
you know, leaving your
country, leaving your friends,
00:26:18.64\00:26:22.78
a family, what do you think?
00:26:22.81\00:26:25.81
Well, I mean, I
think the hardest part
00:26:25.85\00:26:29.65
only probably
leaving the cultures,
00:26:29.68\00:26:32.12
like we live in
Tennessee, by the way.
00:26:32.15\00:26:35.12
And down there
00:26:35.16\00:26:36.76
it's pretty southern and I mean,
00:26:36.79\00:26:39.53
that's like I
grew up in Tennessee.
00:26:39.56\00:26:41.60
It's all that I know about.
00:26:41.63\00:26:43.26
And I'm also leaving
all my friends and family,
00:26:43.30\00:26:48.27
that'll probably
be the hardest part.
00:26:48.30\00:26:50.64
Yes.
00:26:50.67\00:26:52.47
For me, it will
definitely be the people.
00:26:52.51\00:26:56.64
I mean, and the
mountains and the river
00:26:56.68\00:26:58.61
and that it's not very hot.
00:26:58.65\00:27:00.05
I don't like heat very much.
00:27:00.08\00:27:02.28
And I like cold rivers that
you can swim in that are safe.
00:27:02.32\00:27:06.29
And that probably
won't be like that in Guyana.
00:27:06.32\00:27:09.02
But for me, I'm
the adventuresome type.
00:27:09.06\00:27:12.03
So I'm ready for
the adventure. Nice.
00:27:12.06\00:27:15.13
They both touch
me because she's very
00:27:15.16\00:27:19.13
willing to do it
00:27:19.17\00:27:21.30
and he is very willing to do it,
00:27:21.34\00:27:22.90
even when he knows
that he won't be comfortable
00:27:22.94\00:27:26.44
and he knows that he'll
have a very harder time.
00:27:26.47\00:27:29.94
Yes. Yes.
00:27:29.98\00:27:31.85
What do you hope to accomplish
00:27:31.88\00:27:34.95
on this missionary trip?
00:27:34.98\00:27:38.82
So we hope to spread the
gospel because the people,
00:27:38.85\00:27:42.62
again, specifically in
Bermuda, I mean, Guyana,
00:27:42.66\00:27:46.39
there are several
places where AWA has, like,
00:27:46.43\00:27:50.47
we have a
headquarters, in my room,
00:27:50.50\00:27:52.13
I think we have
a picture of that.
00:27:52.17\00:27:54.44
And then Bermuda,
00:27:54.47\00:27:55.80
and then there's
another one in Georgetown.
00:27:55.84\00:27:57.84
And so there are people
that we're reaching already,
00:27:57.87\00:28:00.78
but we always
wanted to reach people
00:28:00.81\00:28:02.38
who haven't heard the gospel.
00:28:02.41\00:28:04.98
And so to us
00:28:05.01\00:28:06.35
that's our major
drive is to share the gospel
00:28:06.38\00:28:09.98
with people who
haven't heard it yet.
00:28:10.02\00:28:11.72
And God is already
working on their hearts.
00:28:11.75\00:28:14.12
And it's clear that
that was true 10 years ago.
00:28:14.16\00:28:17.13
And we expect
that He's still there,
00:28:17.16\00:28:19.36
still working on their hearts,
00:28:19.39\00:28:20.86
and we just we'd
like to be workers
00:28:20.90\00:28:23.37
in His kingdom, so...
00:28:23.40\00:28:24.73
Absolutely. Amen.
00:28:24.77\00:28:26.47
What did your family say
when you told them about this?
00:28:26.50\00:28:30.27
I think everybody
was just maybe curious
00:28:30.31\00:28:35.48
how long we would be
interested in doing this.
00:28:35.51\00:28:37.75
I don't know.
If we were serious.
00:28:37.78\00:28:39.75
If we were serious, yeah.
00:28:39.78\00:28:41.12
But we have been
doing things differently.
00:28:41.15\00:28:44.15
So in my case, my
family wasn't really surprised.
00:28:44.19\00:28:47.99
My mom wanted to be a
missionary in the Amazon.
00:28:48.02\00:28:51.33
So for her, I think
00:28:51.36\00:28:52.69
it was a happy
thing to see in us
00:28:52.73\00:28:55.80
to realize about it.
00:28:55.83\00:28:57.67
Well, I think as
the dates get closer,
00:28:57.70\00:28:59.53
our family is realizing,
"Hey, this is serious.
00:28:59.57\00:29:01.34
They're going."
And so they're...
00:29:01.37\00:29:05.34
I would say they
don't have a problem,
00:29:05.37\00:29:07.21
my parents were missionaries,
00:29:07.24\00:29:08.88
but just they're
just seeing us do it.
00:29:08.91\00:29:12.41
We're just going. Yeah. Yeah.
00:29:12.45\00:29:14.35
Walking into the calling that
God has placed on your lives.
00:29:14.38\00:29:18.62
And it's amazing to me
that you two are embracing
00:29:18.65\00:29:22.22
that calling as well.
00:29:22.26\00:29:23.59
And you're the adventurous type
00:29:23.63\00:29:25.86
and you're ready
for an adventure.
00:29:25.89\00:29:27.40
And that's exciting.
You wanna be used by God.
00:29:27.43\00:29:29.83
And I think that's incredible.
00:29:29.86\00:29:32.10
So that shows that
your parents instilled
00:29:32.13\00:29:34.64
some wonderful
Christian values in you.
00:29:34.67\00:29:38.54
So what was that like?
00:29:38.57\00:29:40.61
Do you guys learn about,
00:29:40.64\00:29:42.04
you know, the
stories in the Bible?
00:29:42.08\00:29:46.11
Yes, we do.
00:29:46.15\00:29:49.05
I like to read more on my
own and he reads a book too.
00:29:49.08\00:29:54.59
He reads it to me and yes,
00:29:54.62\00:29:56.89
that's like
part of our training,
00:29:56.93\00:29:59.16
but it's like,
well, before we got...
00:29:59.19\00:30:02.13
About the boys,
00:30:02.16\00:30:03.50
that's a
totally different story,
00:30:03.53\00:30:04.87
but Dad would read to us
every day from the Bible.
00:30:04.90\00:30:08.54
We're trying to
read the whole Bible.
00:30:08.57\00:30:09.90
Amen. Nice. Nice.
00:30:09.94\00:30:11.51
And your brother
reads to you too?
00:30:11.54\00:30:13.48
Yeah, I like reading
Proverbs. Oh, that's awesome.
00:30:13.51\00:30:17.25
Yes.Yes. A wise man.
00:30:17.28\00:30:20.32
Jordana, you mentioned something
00:30:20.35\00:30:21.68
about preparing
to go as a family.
00:30:21.72\00:30:26.39
So it makes me
wonder, so as a family,
00:30:26.42\00:30:29.42
are there things
that you are doing
00:30:29.46\00:30:31.69
to prepare to go
to the mission fields?
00:30:31.73\00:30:35.76
Well, we're studying
and praying together.
00:30:35.80\00:30:37.93
The training that
that AWA provides for us,
00:30:37.97\00:30:40.77
there are
certain reading materials
00:30:40.80\00:30:42.17
that we have to do.
00:30:42.20\00:30:43.54
There's also training,
00:30:43.57\00:30:45.01
like the
Institute of World Missions.
00:30:45.04\00:30:48.21
So we do these
things as a family.
00:30:48.24\00:30:50.65
And that's why
when you asked about
00:30:50.68\00:30:52.78
how they responded
when we told them about
00:30:52.81\00:30:55.38
or how we told them about it,
00:30:55.42\00:30:56.92
we make a lot of
our decisions together.
00:30:56.95\00:30:58.75
We're together all the
time and they're homeschooled.
00:30:58.79\00:31:01.22
I work from home.
00:31:01.26\00:31:02.59
And so
everything that we're doing
00:31:02.62\00:31:06.23
for preparation is together.
00:31:06.26\00:31:08.80
And honestly, I think
the biggest preparation
00:31:08.83\00:31:11.03
I think sometimes
we lose sight of it,
00:31:11.07\00:31:12.90
especially now
in this time we see
00:31:12.93\00:31:15.90
we're like in the toenails
00:31:15.94\00:31:17.77
of that image of Nebuchadnezzar.
00:31:17.81\00:31:19.91
And so that we are
so close to the end
00:31:19.94\00:31:24.25
and I think
people get worried about
00:31:24.28\00:31:25.61
how will we
prepare for Jesus coming,
00:31:25.65\00:31:27.85
and really it's
just relationship.
00:31:27.88\00:31:29.38
We need to have a
relationship with Him.
00:31:29.42\00:31:31.52
And so that's
our biggest training
00:31:31.55\00:31:34.42
is keeping our
relationship with Jesus.
00:31:34.46\00:31:37.56
Amen.
00:31:37.59\00:31:38.93
And that's also how
you're planning on reaching
00:31:38.96\00:31:40.80
the people in
Guyana is by building
00:31:40.83\00:31:43.10
those relationships,
assessing the needs
00:31:43.13\00:31:45.23
of the community,
building those relationships,
00:31:45.27\00:31:47.20
and then telling them to
follow Christ as Christ method.
00:31:47.24\00:31:49.74
Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah.
00:31:49.77\00:31:51.61
That's something
that we have in mind.
00:31:51.64\00:31:53.24
We can have the best preparation
00:31:53.27\00:31:55.31
and we try to do that,
00:31:55.34\00:31:57.51
but being friends
with the people there,
00:31:57.55\00:32:01.08
I think that's the best thing
00:32:01.12\00:32:02.45
we can do to reach
people to the Lord.
00:32:02.48\00:32:05.02
Yes. Yes. Absolutely.
00:32:05.05\00:32:07.82
So you guys are
excited about this.
00:32:07.86\00:32:09.99
I can tell. I can tell. We are.
00:32:10.03\00:32:11.99
You know, I remember
when you first got here
00:32:12.03\00:32:14.56
and I came up and
introduced myself to you
00:32:14.60\00:32:17.53
and met you.
00:32:17.57\00:32:18.90
I was just amazed
at your countenance.
00:32:18.93\00:32:21.10
Like, you know, there's a glow
on each and every one of you
00:32:21.14\00:32:24.87
and it just
shows that, you know,
00:32:24.91\00:32:26.88
you've been studying the word
and you've surrendered to God,
00:32:26.91\00:32:29.54
like your
countenance really shows that.
00:32:29.58\00:32:32.25
Praise God.
00:32:32.28\00:32:33.62
And I think that's
gonna make a difference too
00:32:33.65\00:32:35.08
when you go
over there to Guyana.
00:32:35.12\00:32:36.82
People are gonna
see that something
00:32:36.85\00:32:38.69
is different about your family.
00:32:38.72\00:32:41.09
You know, and they're
gonna be drawn to that.
00:32:41.12\00:32:43.83
And it's the Lord. That's right.
00:32:43.86\00:32:45.83
It is the Lord.
00:32:45.86\00:32:47.20
So, yes, Ricky,
what's on your mind?
00:32:47.23\00:32:50.80
I think about flying
00:32:50.83\00:32:52.50
and about the most piloting
that I could ever see myself
00:32:52.53\00:32:58.44
doing is being right here
with Jason being his copilot.
00:32:58.47\00:33:02.28
And so are you
planning on being copilot?
00:33:02.31\00:33:05.21
I will.
00:33:05.25\00:33:06.58
I'm sure I will be
co-pilot from time to time.
00:33:06.61\00:33:10.19
You know, there are a
lot of medevac flights,
00:33:10.22\00:33:12.02
and so I may be in the back.
00:33:12.05\00:33:13.39
I have EMT training as well,
00:33:13.42\00:33:15.09
so I may be helping
as we fly the patients.
00:33:15.12\00:33:19.39
But she's the pilot. Yeah.
00:33:19.43\00:33:21.56
I'm learning,
I'm a student pilot.
00:33:21.60\00:33:25.67
And well, you are
welcome to come to my,
00:33:25.70\00:33:28.77
you know, my
training, that will be pretty
00:33:28.80\00:33:30.64
exciting for sure.
00:33:30.67\00:33:33.68
But that is a plus,
it's not something necessary
00:33:33.71\00:33:37.51
to be part of the AWA family,
00:33:37.55\00:33:40.95
but it will be a plus to learn
00:33:40.98\00:33:44.09
because of the
situation that the geography
00:33:44.12\00:33:46.69
and the way people communicate
from community to community.
00:33:46.72\00:33:50.33
Yes.
00:33:50.36\00:33:51.69
So let's talk
about that situation.
00:33:51.73\00:33:53.23
Let's talk about the
geography and the layout.
00:33:53.26\00:33:55.70
So where's the
closest grocery store?
00:33:55.73\00:33:59.23
It depends what way.
00:33:59.27\00:34:01.84
If you are going on
a vehicle from Bermuda,
00:34:01.87\00:34:07.31
which is the project
that we will like to go,
00:34:07.34\00:34:10.81
it takes four to five days.
00:34:10.85\00:34:13.38
So if you are
having a craving...
00:34:13.42\00:34:15.25
Wait, wait.
00:34:15.28\00:34:16.62
Four to five days to
go to the grocery store?
00:34:16.65\00:34:18.22
Yes. Wow.
00:34:18.25\00:34:20.39
I like to eat,
00:34:20.42\00:34:21.92
so you have to have
a solid grocery list.
00:34:21.96\00:34:25.99
For sure, for sure. Yeah.
00:34:26.03\00:34:27.56
So I don't know
how advance or how big
00:34:27.60\00:34:31.50
is the community
now, for what we watched,
00:34:31.53\00:34:36.34
I didn't see any market there.
00:34:36.37\00:34:40.41
So we have our gardeners
00:34:40.44\00:34:42.71
and hopefully they
provide us with some food,
00:34:42.74\00:34:46.92
but flying from one
place from the base project,
00:34:46.95\00:34:52.65
which is in...
00:34:52.69\00:34:54.12
Mabaruma. Mabaruma.
00:34:54.16\00:34:55.66
Bermuda, it takes 30 minutes.
00:34:55.69\00:34:58.39
So see that the
distance is a really...
00:34:58.43\00:35:00.73
It makes a
difference to fly instead
00:35:00.76\00:35:03.57
of going on a boat or driving.
00:35:03.60\00:35:07.14
Okay. Absolutely.
00:35:07.17\00:35:08.50
So if the grocery
store is so far away,
00:35:08.54\00:35:11.87
what about getting
fuel for the plane?
00:35:11.91\00:35:14.68
Is that someplace
close or how do you go
00:35:14.71\00:35:17.58
about getting that?
00:35:17.61\00:35:19.61
Well, my understanding is
00:35:19.65\00:35:22.08
I will have to fly to Georgetown
00:35:22.12\00:35:23.89
to the international airport.
00:35:23.92\00:35:25.99
And yeah, get the fuel
there and then be very careful
00:35:26.02\00:35:30.56
going back not wasting any fuel
because it's very expensive,
00:35:30.59\00:35:34.13
very expensive.
00:35:34.16\00:35:35.50
Yeah. That's right.
00:35:35.53\00:35:36.87
The fuel is stored
in the airplane wings.
00:35:36.90\00:35:38.80
So they fly into
Georgetown, fill up the wings,
00:35:38.83\00:35:42.30
go back into the headquarters
and pump the fuel out
00:35:42.34\00:35:47.61
and use only what they need.
00:35:47.64\00:35:49.24
So they start storing
barrels of fuel at Mabaruma
00:35:49.28\00:35:53.58
so that we, for future flights,
00:35:53.62\00:35:55.62
have it there versus having
to go to Georgetown to get it.
00:35:55.65\00:35:59.85
Wow. Wow. Yeah.
00:35:59.89\00:36:01.92
So what in the
areas of training,
00:36:01.96\00:36:05.39
how long is
training to be a part of AWA?
00:36:05.43\00:36:10.37
That's an
individual sort of thing.
00:36:10.40\00:36:12.50
Like some people
are pilots already.
00:36:12.53\00:36:14.80
So if we were...
00:36:14.84\00:36:16.17
If Glenda was a pilot already,
we'd have that under our belt.
00:36:16.20\00:36:19.37
But there's reading material,
and then there's also...
00:36:19.41\00:36:23.38
You need to make a site visit
00:36:23.41\00:36:25.18
and we're planning
on doing that very soon.
00:36:25.21\00:36:28.32
But I guess it depends
on your life circumstance.
00:36:28.35\00:36:32.65
So for us because we
do everything together
00:36:32.69\00:36:36.52
and we do everything from
home, we have this flexibility
00:36:36.56\00:36:39.59
and I feel like we're
advancing pretty quickly.
00:36:39.63\00:36:43.03
But it could take several years
even to get the training done
00:36:43.06\00:36:46.57
or it could be a
question of months.
00:36:46.60\00:36:49.44
So it's kind of like a learn
at your own pace type of thing.
00:36:49.47\00:36:53.74
Right. Okay. Okay.
00:36:53.78\00:36:55.58
Is there like an average?
00:36:55.61\00:36:58.41
I think when I asked
that question to AWA,
00:36:58.45\00:37:03.12
they told me about a year.
00:37:03.15\00:37:04.79
Nine months, a year. Okay.
00:37:04.82\00:37:06.69
That to me, it
sounded so long, but after,
00:37:06.72\00:37:10.23
you know, this is now a
year, basically a year ago,
00:37:10.26\00:37:13.53
I feel that we did a lot,
00:37:13.56\00:37:15.10
but there are more
to accomplish before
00:37:15.13\00:37:18.00
we are ready to go.
00:37:18.03\00:37:19.37
Yeah, In
addition to the training,
00:37:19.40\00:37:20.74
we have to raise support.
00:37:20.77\00:37:22.10
AWA is a supporting mission,
just like 3ABN actually.
00:37:22.14\00:37:27.71
So we're independent.
00:37:27.74\00:37:29.91
And so we have to raise support
00:37:29.94\00:37:32.18
and that's one of the
things that we'll be working on
00:37:32.21\00:37:34.48
as well between
now and when we depart.
00:37:34.52\00:37:37.49
Got you. Got you.
00:37:37.52\00:37:38.95
Well, we hope that our viewers
00:37:38.99\00:37:41.42
and listeners will
support your cause.
00:37:41.46\00:37:43.93
And we're gonna go
into that a little bit later
00:37:43.96\00:37:45.63
'cause I want to
find out exactly,
00:37:45.66\00:37:47.30
you know, what it
is that you all need.
00:37:47.33\00:37:48.90
And then we'll show how
to get in touch with you
00:37:48.93\00:37:50.97
and all of that
stuff a little bit later.
00:37:51.00\00:37:53.00
But what advice
would you have for someone
00:37:53.03\00:37:56.47
who's sitting at
home and they're like,
00:37:56.50\00:37:58.31
"Well, I wanna do
something for God,
00:37:58.34\00:38:00.04
but I don't know
where to even begin."
00:38:00.08\00:38:05.38
Well, for us,
00:38:05.41\00:38:06.78
I guess it's just
been keep a connection.
00:38:06.82\00:38:08.82
I mean, if you wanna know
00:38:08.85\00:38:12.32
what God wants you to do,
really, I think if you look,
00:38:12.35\00:38:17.43
you'll see God's working.
00:38:17.46\00:38:19.29
And this is something
that we've learned in our
00:38:19.33\00:38:21.16
training actually God
will be working somewhere.
00:38:21.20\00:38:27.14
And if you recognize it,
00:38:27.17\00:38:28.50
that means He's
showing it to you.
00:38:28.54\00:38:30.21
And if He's showing it to you,
00:38:30.24\00:38:31.57
that means He's inviting
you to participate in that work
00:38:31.61\00:38:34.88
that He's doing.
00:38:34.91\00:38:36.24
So I think a lot of times
we get caught up in this idea,
00:38:36.28\00:38:38.88
"Where I wanna do
something for the Lord
00:38:38.91\00:38:40.62
and I have these skills.
00:38:40.65\00:38:41.98
And when is He
gonna use me this way?"
00:38:42.02\00:38:43.85
And really we should be
looking for where He's working
00:38:43.89\00:38:47.02
and join him where He is.
00:38:47.06\00:38:48.92
So, don't say when is
He gonna use me this way,
00:38:48.96\00:38:51.93
but how does He want to use me.
00:38:51.96\00:38:53.73
Yes, yes.
Excellent. Excellent advice.
00:38:53.76\00:38:56.73
I can imagine that in
getting to the community,
00:38:56.77\00:39:02.27
you're going to start
establishing friendships
00:39:02.30\00:39:07.01
and getting to
know the people there,
00:39:07.04\00:39:11.71
but while there,
after I guess you've
00:39:11.75\00:39:14.98
established those connections,
are there gonna be types
00:39:15.02\00:39:18.29
of training that
you'll be giving the people
00:39:18.32\00:39:20.72
or what type of
training you do you
00:39:20.76\00:39:23.83
see that you'll
be doing for them?
00:39:23.86\00:39:26.23
Well, we've
talked about literacy,
00:39:26.26\00:39:27.60
so that's something
we wanna help people
00:39:27.63\00:39:29.26
if they need to
learn how to read.
00:39:29.30\00:39:31.50
Also so I'm a
health professional
00:39:31.53\00:39:35.70
and so helping
people, especially with our,
00:39:35.74\00:39:38.27
you know, our
eight natural laws,
00:39:38.31\00:39:40.14
I'd help with that
and their physical pains.
00:39:40.18\00:39:43.01
So those are things that
we can share with the people.
00:39:43.04\00:39:45.25
But one of the other big
ideas we've had is starting
00:39:45.28\00:39:48.98
a Pathfinder club
because, you know,
00:39:49.02\00:39:52.05
there's an
Adventist presence in Guyana,
00:39:52.09\00:39:54.69
but where we're going
into the interior, there's not.
00:39:54.72\00:39:57.66
So the kids have
talked about starting up
00:39:57.69\00:40:00.93
a Pathfinders club
because there's so many
00:40:00.96\00:40:04.27
kids there and
these are the kids
00:40:04.30\00:40:05.63
that are not having hope
or they go to commit suicide
00:40:05.67\00:40:10.24
because they don't see a future.
00:40:10.27\00:40:12.11
And we feel like
if we can get them
00:40:12.14\00:40:15.51
involved in something
that teaches them about God,
00:40:15.54\00:40:17.61
but it's also fun and creates
something to look forward to,
00:40:17.65\00:40:21.92
then that will change
their idea about their future.
00:40:21.95\00:40:26.65
They'll know
more about why life.
00:40:26.69\00:40:31.03
Yeah. Pathfinders is great.
00:40:31.06\00:40:32.93
I grew up in
Pathfinders from a busy bee
00:40:32.96\00:40:38.13
all the way up to my teen years.
00:40:38.17\00:40:40.60
So if you guys can get
a Pathfinder club started,
00:40:40.64\00:40:44.14
that's just an excellent way.
00:40:44.17\00:40:46.14
I can remember several
of my Pathfinder instructors
00:40:46.17\00:40:50.68
who have helped me along the way
00:40:50.71\00:40:52.68
when I was growing
up to help point me
00:40:52.71\00:40:54.85
and keep me on that
straight narrow path.
00:40:54.88\00:40:57.39
And I could see that you
guys could be doing that as well
00:40:57.42\00:40:59.89
for the children that are there.
00:40:59.92\00:41:02.19
That'd be a great ministry,
00:41:02.22\00:41:03.66
Pathfinders is a great ministry.
00:41:03.69\00:41:05.03
Mm-hm. Absolutely. I can't wait.
00:41:05.06\00:41:07.60
You know, you already
know, I want to do a follow-up.
00:41:07.63\00:41:10.67
You haven't
even gone over there.
00:41:10.70\00:41:12.03
Right.
00:41:12.07\00:41:13.40
But I'm excited
because I do believe that God
00:41:13.44\00:41:15.60
is going to do amazing things
00:41:15.64\00:41:17.57
and he's gonna use
your family to do it.
00:41:17.61\00:41:19.74
And I want to hear
about what happens as,
00:41:19.77\00:41:24.28
you know, you're over there
00:41:24.31\00:41:25.65
and you're
ministering to the people
00:41:25.68\00:41:27.12
and you're seeing that growth,
00:41:27.15\00:41:28.78
and I'm just
claiming it in faith.
00:41:28.82\00:41:30.69
There's gonna be people
that are giving their hearts
00:41:30.72\00:41:34.36
to the Lord.
00:41:34.39\00:41:35.72
And I can't wait to
hear those stories as well.
00:41:35.76\00:41:38.89
I can't wait to share them.
00:41:38.93\00:41:40.26
We're so excited for that too.
00:41:40.30\00:41:42.16
I think about,
you know, the story
00:41:42.20\00:41:44.13
of the woman at
the well and how Jesus,
00:41:44.17\00:41:48.10
He told the disciples,
"Look, the harvest is white,"
00:41:48.14\00:41:51.71
and you're entering
into someone else's labor.
00:41:51.74\00:41:53.81
You're going to reap
where someone else has labored,
00:41:53.84\00:41:56.78
and then you will
be laboring together.
00:41:56.81\00:41:59.08
And I feel like we see
that the labor has been started.
00:41:59.11\00:42:02.95
And it's so exciting
to think that we're living
00:42:02.98\00:42:06.15
so close to the
end, we're gonna see
00:42:06.19\00:42:07.69
some incredible things.
00:42:07.72\00:42:09.39
And we just, we can't wait
to be used that way for God.
00:42:09.42\00:42:14.40
Do you have any stories
that you can share with us
00:42:14.43\00:42:17.90
in terms of
maybe some situations
00:42:17.93\00:42:19.87
that have happened
over here on the US side
00:42:19.90\00:42:22.10
where maybe you've
witnessed to somebody
00:42:22.14\00:42:24.81
and you've seen a
difference in their lives?
00:42:24.84\00:42:29.54
Our neighborhood. Hmm.
00:42:29.58\00:42:33.45
Yeah, just the way
we are going to Guyana
00:42:33.48\00:42:37.72
is the way we
are here, actually.
00:42:37.75\00:42:40.46
We are making
friends with our neighbors
00:42:40.49\00:42:42.06
and we have
Bible studies together
00:42:42.09\00:42:45.33
and they are so
open to the truth
00:42:45.36\00:42:49.50
and changes, big
changes for them that we know
00:42:49.53\00:42:55.17
is not coming from us,
00:42:55.20\00:42:56.81
it's definitely the Holy Spirit.
00:42:56.84\00:42:58.64
So, that gives us a hint that
it can happen there in Guyana.
00:42:58.67\00:43:03.81
Yeah.
00:43:03.85\00:43:05.68
Our next door neighbors,
they're two doors down,
00:43:05.71\00:43:08.88
but they asked
us for Bible study
00:43:08.92\00:43:10.99
and that was such
a surprising thing.
00:43:11.02\00:43:12.42
And in my office,
these were patients
00:43:12.45\00:43:15.66
and I always try to
share that I'm a believer
00:43:15.69\00:43:19.09
and share truth with them,
00:43:19.13\00:43:20.73
especially in regards to health,
00:43:20.76\00:43:22.10
but I'll pray with
my patients as well.
00:43:22.13\00:43:24.07
And this particular
neighbor who's a patient,
00:43:24.10\00:43:27.00
she asked for if
we did Bible studies
00:43:27.04\00:43:29.47
and I felt kind of embarrassed
that she was asking me
00:43:29.50\00:43:34.08
instead of the other way
around and some of the topics
00:43:34.11\00:43:37.38
that we've been
studying together with,
00:43:37.41\00:43:39.95
there are things
that we as Adventists know
00:43:39.98\00:43:42.38
and so we know about the Sabbath
00:43:42.42\00:43:44.52
and we know about
what happens when we die.
00:43:44.55\00:43:47.49
And these truths,
00:43:47.52\00:43:50.19
even in the Christian
world are new to people
00:43:50.23\00:43:53.16
and kind of scary for us
00:43:53.19\00:43:54.83
as Adventists
to share sometimes.
00:43:54.86\00:43:56.97
And we're just
amazed at watching
00:43:57.00\00:44:00.74
how while study on a
topic, and they're just like,
00:44:00.77\00:44:04.37
"Yeah, well, it's in the Bible.
00:44:04.41\00:44:05.74
That makes sense."
00:44:05.77\00:44:07.11
And God's working that
00:44:07.14\00:44:09.31
He's the only one that
can change people's hearts.
00:44:09.34\00:44:11.45
He's the only one that
can show them spiritual truth.
00:44:11.48\00:44:14.85
So we're blessed to see that,
and in many different ways,
00:44:14.88\00:44:19.09
but definitely
recently with our neighbors.
00:44:19.12\00:44:21.96
Yeah. That's huge.
00:44:21.99\00:44:24.06
And I'm sure, like, as you said,
00:44:24.09\00:44:25.99
you're gonna take that abroad.
00:44:26.03\00:44:27.76
What are some of
your needs as a ministry?
00:44:27.80\00:44:31.67
What do you need?
Do you need prayers?
00:44:31.70\00:44:33.84
You need financial
support. Tell us what you need.
00:44:33.87\00:44:36.87
So we definitely need prayers.
That's first and foremost.
00:44:36.91\00:44:39.97
In order to go to Guyana,
00:44:40.01\00:44:41.91
there are needs
financially because we have
00:44:41.94\00:44:45.11
airplanes that need
to fly and have gasoline.
00:44:45.15\00:44:47.18
We have places that we
need to upkeep for ministry.
00:44:47.22\00:44:52.72
We have a community center
where people come and worship,
00:44:52.75\00:44:56.42
and of course we'll be
doing all kinds of stuff there
00:44:56.46\00:44:59.63
that we'll need
help with financially.
00:44:59.66\00:45:02.00
So I guess the needs
that we have are for people
00:45:02.03\00:45:07.87
who feel, I guess,
the connection because God
00:45:07.90\00:45:11.07
has asked us to
go, we know God has
00:45:11.11\00:45:12.44
asked us to go to Guyana,
but if He's asked us to go,
00:45:12.47\00:45:16.31
He has to provide for it.
00:45:16.34\00:45:17.68
And we can't go
to people and say,
00:45:17.71\00:45:19.18
"You need to provide
for us to go to Guyana."
00:45:19.21\00:45:22.22
God's gonna put that
on each individual's heart
00:45:22.25\00:45:24.95
who chooses to
support or to partner
00:45:24.99\00:45:27.42
with us on this mission.
00:45:27.46\00:45:29.59
So that is what we need.
00:45:29.62\00:45:33.33
We need people
to search, I guess,
00:45:33.36\00:45:35.30
is God calling them
into this same ministry?
00:45:35.33\00:45:39.47
Is God calling them
to partner for the people
00:45:39.50\00:45:42.60
of Guyana to
hear about the gospel.
00:45:42.64\00:45:45.07
We cannot do it on our own.
00:45:45.11\00:45:47.01
We need prayer and, yes,
we need financial support.
00:45:47.04\00:45:50.61
But God will provide that.
00:45:50.65\00:45:51.98
And each individual
who decides will know.
00:45:52.01\00:45:54.62
Amen. Amen. Yeah.
00:45:54.65\00:45:56.65
The gospel is to
be preached in all
00:45:56.69\00:45:58.29
the world and then
the end shall come.
00:45:58.32\00:46:00.22
So yeah, that's crucial.
00:46:00.26\00:46:02.26
And I believe that our listeners
00:46:02.29\00:46:03.66
and our viewers will support
that wonderful cause for you
00:46:03.69\00:46:07.30
guys to go to Guyana.
00:46:07.33\00:46:08.66
Brother Caleb, what you
just said reminded me of a text.
00:46:08.70\00:46:12.07
You probably know
this, Philippians 4:6 and 7,
00:46:12.10\00:46:15.70
it says, "Be anxious for nothing
00:46:15.74\00:46:18.81
but in everything by prayer
00:46:18.84\00:46:21.94
and supplication
with thanksgiving,
00:46:21.98\00:46:25.65
let your requests
be made known to God.
00:46:25.68\00:46:30.02
And the peace of God,
00:46:30.05\00:46:31.39
which surpasses all
understanding will guard
00:46:31.42\00:46:35.12
your hearts and minds
through Christ Jesus."
00:46:35.16\00:46:38.03
I think that's an excellent
text to claim considering
00:46:38.06\00:46:42.60
what you guys are
gonna be going through,
00:46:42.63\00:46:44.47
let your request be made known
to God and He will provide.
00:46:44.50\00:46:47.94
Amen. Absolutely.
00:46:47.97\00:46:50.84
One of the hardest things for me
00:46:50.87\00:46:53.71
before starting as a missionary,
00:46:53.74\00:46:57.18
so support missionary
was the financial part.
00:46:57.21\00:47:00.82
I have to be honest.
00:47:00.85\00:47:02.18
It's not easy to knock,
00:47:02.22\00:47:03.55
you know, and ask we need money.
00:47:03.59\00:47:05.95
It's not an easy thing.
00:47:05.99\00:47:07.49
But so far, God
has been showing us
00:47:07.52\00:47:10.56
that He is the one who provides
00:47:10.59\00:47:13.19
and we see miracles constantly.
00:47:13.23\00:47:17.37
People...
00:47:17.40\00:47:18.73
I mean, we don't even
ask, people come in and say,
00:47:18.77\00:47:20.90
"Hey, I would
like to give you money
00:47:20.94\00:47:22.90
as a support you monthly."
00:47:22.94\00:47:24.27
And we are like, "Oh,
Lord, we don't deserve this."
00:47:24.31\00:47:27.38
But He already the same way
He called us to go to Guyana,
00:47:27.41\00:47:31.28
He is calling in people's hearts
00:47:31.31\00:47:33.15
to support us.
00:47:33.18\00:47:34.52
And that is wonderful. Amen.
00:47:34.55\00:47:35.98
Praise God.
00:47:36.02\00:47:37.35
So there's
multiple different roles
00:47:37.39\00:47:39.69
and different facets
in missionary work, right?
00:47:39.72\00:47:43.96
You have the people that
can support and can help.
00:47:43.99\00:47:46.53
Maybe they can't go and maybe
they can support financially.
00:47:46.56\00:47:50.60
You have the
people that can pray.
00:47:50.63\00:47:53.03
And then you have
the people that can pray,
00:47:53.07\00:47:54.77
support financially,
00:47:54.80\00:47:56.14
and maybe they'll
join you out there as well.
00:47:56.17\00:47:58.91
There's multiple
different facets.
00:47:58.94\00:48:01.14
How often will you
get to come back home?
00:48:01.18\00:48:03.14
Oh, yeah.
That's a good question.
00:48:03.18\00:48:04.85
It's kind of at our discretion.
00:48:04.88\00:48:09.85
AWA likes for us to
come back on a furlough.
00:48:09.88\00:48:13.66
They like once a year,
maybe a couple of years
00:48:13.69\00:48:16.26
so that we can really
get to know the community
00:48:16.29\00:48:18.09
before we leave, you know?
00:48:18.13\00:48:21.46
So we'll see when
the time feels right.
00:48:21.50\00:48:24.27
But I'm guessing
about a year or two before
00:48:24.30\00:48:26.33
we come back after we launch.
00:48:26.37\00:48:28.24
Okay. So about a year or two.
00:48:28.27\00:48:30.54
Okay. Good.
00:48:30.57\00:48:31.91
We'll be
looking for some stories
00:48:31.94\00:48:34.11
when you come back on furlough.
00:48:34.14\00:48:36.58
Yeah, that'd be
great to have you guys back
00:48:36.61\00:48:38.05
and let us know
how it all went out,
00:48:38.08\00:48:39.75
how it all went.
00:48:39.78\00:48:41.12
We look forward
to that. Oh, yeah.
00:48:41.15\00:48:42.92
So how excited
are you guys to go?
00:48:42.95\00:48:46.69
Like a lot. Yeah.
00:48:46.72\00:48:50.79
I love it. I love it.
00:48:50.83\00:48:52.19
Ricky, what's jumped out at you
00:48:52.23\00:48:55.26
so far from
this wonderful story?
00:48:55.30\00:48:58.03
Well, I'm very
impressed with the children.
00:48:58.07\00:49:01.07
We have...
00:49:01.10\00:49:02.44
My wife and I, we have five boys
00:49:02.47\00:49:04.61
and so I've always
just want get in there
00:49:04.64\00:49:09.11
and do things with the family.
00:49:09.14\00:49:10.75
And so what I'm
impressed is how the family
00:49:10.78\00:49:13.45
is just so together on this,
00:49:13.48\00:49:15.82
you know, that you
guys haven't shown that,
00:49:15.85\00:49:18.19
"Oh, Dad, do we have to go?
00:49:18.22\00:49:21.06
Or, Mom, I
really don't want to go.
00:49:21.09\00:49:22.42
I'm gonna miss all my friends."
00:49:22.46\00:49:23.93
No, you're very interested
and you wanna participate.
00:49:23.96\00:49:27.46
You wanna help.
00:49:27.50\00:49:28.83
And so that's very
exciting to see a family
00:49:28.86\00:49:31.53
together like that.
00:49:31.57\00:49:32.90
So I can see that the Lord
00:49:32.93\00:49:34.27
is leading in
each one of your lives.
00:49:34.30\00:49:36.27
So that's been
a blessing for me.
00:49:36.30\00:49:37.64
So thank you for
sharing like this.
00:49:37.67\00:49:39.97
Yeah, you too.
You're an inspiration.
00:49:40.01\00:49:42.24
You're an inspiration.
00:49:42.28\00:49:43.61
And you wanna use your
gifts and talents for the Lord.
00:49:43.65\00:49:45.01
And I think that is
incredible at such a young age.
00:49:45.05\00:49:48.28
You have a heart for
ministry and that's evident.
00:49:48.32\00:49:52.52
Well done, parents. Well done.
00:49:52.55\00:49:54.66
Praise God. Amen. Amen.
00:49:54.69\00:49:56.39
How about you, Jason,
00:49:56.42\00:49:57.76
what's something
that stood out for you?
00:49:57.79\00:49:59.13
Yeah.
00:49:59.16\00:50:00.50
I think you pretty much
covered it, Ricky, you know,
00:50:00.53\00:50:01.86
what stands out to me
is the fact that the family
00:50:01.90\00:50:04.10
is so close together.
00:50:04.13\00:50:06.23
They make decisions
together as a family.
00:50:06.27\00:50:09.40
They've focused
on the principles
00:50:09.44\00:50:11.74
that are found
in the Word of God.
00:50:11.77\00:50:13.84
And I think that's huge.
00:50:13.88\00:50:15.98
Like your kids are on board
00:50:16.01\00:50:18.38
and on fire for
the Lord, are ready.
00:50:18.41\00:50:20.88
I mean, that is incredible.
00:50:20.92\00:50:22.85
And that's something
that stands out to me because,
00:50:22.88\00:50:24.82
you know, there's so many
homes in the United States
00:50:24.85\00:50:28.16
and really around
the world where the dad
00:50:28.19\00:50:30.76
is absent from the home or even
00:50:30.79\00:50:33.03
the mother might be
absent from the home.
00:50:33.06\00:50:34.96
So there's the, you
know, divorce and separation
00:50:35.00\00:50:37.90
and all of those things,
but to see a family together
00:50:37.93\00:50:41.44
doing mission work for the Lord,
00:50:41.47\00:50:43.47
uprooting their lives,
00:50:43.51\00:50:45.57
you know, to go to
Guyana and help others,
00:50:45.61\00:50:50.25
it's incredible.
00:50:50.28\00:50:51.91
And speaking of
uprooting your lives,
00:50:51.95\00:50:55.55
I know that with
all of the amenities
00:50:55.58\00:50:58.02
that we have and
stuff in the States,
00:50:58.05\00:51:00.02
you're gonna have to
get rid of some things.
00:51:00.06\00:51:02.06
So what's that process like?
00:51:02.09\00:51:04.09
Well, it's just not some things,
00:51:04.13\00:51:06.26
it's basically
almost everything.
00:51:06.29\00:51:10.60
And well, this is
something that even the kids
00:51:10.63\00:51:13.50
have to be part of it.
00:51:13.54\00:51:14.87
So they are...
00:51:14.90\00:51:16.71
We go over their room
maybe monthly, weekly,
00:51:16.74\00:51:21.34
and they are declaring
and getting just few things
00:51:21.38\00:51:25.28
items to take to Guyana.
00:51:25.31\00:51:27.35
And we are taking basically
one pack, one backpack.
00:51:27.38\00:51:30.59
Plus the instrument cases. Yeah.
00:51:30.62\00:51:34.79
That goes in a different...
00:51:34.82\00:51:36.22
And those kinds
of whole more things.
00:51:36.26\00:51:37.99
We saved some space
00:51:38.03\00:51:39.36
and just stuff
everything to all pockets.
00:51:39.39\00:51:41.53
Yes.
00:51:41.56\00:51:43.10
That's one backpack
and instrument cases.
00:51:43.13\00:51:46.37
Well, we want to let you know
00:51:46.40\00:51:48.67
how you can help this wonderful
family in their journey,
00:51:48.70\00:51:52.14
in the mission field.
00:51:52.17\00:51:53.51
So we're gonna go
to an address role
00:51:53.54\00:51:55.74
and then a brief news break.
00:51:55.78\00:51:57.11
And we'll be right back.
00:51:57.15\00:52:00.92
If you would like to contact
00:52:00.95\00:52:02.48
or know more about
Adventist World Aviation,
00:52:02.52\00:52:05.39
you can write to them
at 3457 Swift Creek Road,
00:52:05.42\00:52:10.13
Corp-3, Smithfield,
North Carolina, 27577.
00:52:10.16\00:52:15.76
You can also call them
00:52:15.80\00:52:17.13
at (919) 938-2920.
00:52:17.17\00:52:21.90
That's (919) 938-2920.
00:52:21.94\00:52:26.41
You can also visit
their website at flyawa.org.
00:52:26.44\00:52:30.85
That's flyawa.org
00:52:30.88\00:52:33.72
or email them
at info@flyawa.org.
00:52:33.75\00:52:39.15