As you're well aware,
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we're living in
unprecedented times.
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Join us now for
Today special program.
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Removing pain
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Lord, let my words
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Heal a heart that hurts
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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Hello, friends.
Welcome to 3ABN Today.
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I'm John Lomacang,
and I will say today
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I have my copilot next to me.
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You'll find out
why. You'll find out why.
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I'm Angela, I'm so glad that
you decided to tune in today.
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You're gonna be blessed.
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We have a wonderful
program, don't we, honey?
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That's right. It's...
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I would say it's
probably very closely associated
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with the three angles' messages,
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flying in the midst of heaven.
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I'm using all these clichés
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that are
connected to the program.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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I think we should, on that note,
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I think that should just dive in
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and introduce our guests.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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We have a great
family here in front of us.
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That's right.
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Let me start with
this wonderful family
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far down on the
other side of the table.
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We have Yosi and Josh Fix.
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Right? Just as it sounds, Fix?
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Fix, yes.
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And do you
remember their son's names?
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Oh yeah. Caleb and Isaac.
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And Isaac.
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Well, good to
have you here today.
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Good to be here. Thank you.
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And you are both
with AWA, I was saying...
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That's correct. Good.
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That means what
does that stand for?
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Adventist World Aviation.
Something I love to do.
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And we're gonna get more
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into your story
in just a moment,
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but to our right is somebody
that was a part of our family,
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part of our life a
little more than 18 years ago.
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Yeah. When?
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At the St. Louis
Church. That's right.
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At St. Louis Central.
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Bruce, good to see
you, Bruce Wilkerson.
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Thank you, sir. You
have a famous name of.
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I know, right?
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A musician by the
name, Bruce Wilkerson,
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I think orchestra,
something to that effect.
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Wow.
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But tell us a little
bit about you briefly?
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Oh, briefly. Yeah.
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Right now I'm the
executive vice president
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for Adventist World Aviation.
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We're based in Johnson
county, North Carolina.
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Okay. I have served five years.
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My wife and I, Monique
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and I served five years
in the jungles of Guyana
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and a year in the Philippines.
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Okay.
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So now I'm the vice president
for Adventist World Aviation.
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We're here to introduce
our missionaries and training.
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Good.
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And they are 18 years older than
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when we saw them last?
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Yes. Couple of years.
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Here they are.
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We haven't aged, just you
have, but we're going to have
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an exciting program
today about aviation,
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about Adventist World Aviation,
the ministry of the air.
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I could say that,
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I think that's the way to do it.
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You could
get... You could far...
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You could get much
farther by air than you by...
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can by land.
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And we're gonna find
out why on this program,
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how you can get further by air?
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That's right.
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But we want to
thank you for your prayers
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and your
financial support of 3BN
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as we continue
going and growing,
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getting ready for
the coming of Jesus.
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And because we have a
wonderful packed program,
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pictures and testimony,
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and some video to talk
about this wonderful ministry
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and the people that
are here to represent it.
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But right now we're
gonna go to some music.
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What do we
have, honey? Oh, yeah.
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We have some wonderful
music and it's by Jeff Pearls
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and the title is,
"The Wonder of it All."
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Amen.
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There's the wonder of sunset
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At evening
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The wondrous sunrise
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I see
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But the wonder of wonders
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That thrills my soul
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Is the wonder that
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God loves me
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O, the wonder of it all
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The wonder of it all
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Just to think that
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God loves me
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O, the wonder of it
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All the wonder of it all
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Just to think that
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God loves me
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There's the wonder of springtime
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And harvest
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The sky the stars and the sun
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But the wonder of wonders
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That thrills my soul
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Is a wonder that's only begun
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O, the wonder of it all
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The wonder of it all
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Just to think that
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God loves me
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O, the wonder of it all
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The wonder of it all
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Just to think that
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God loves me
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O, the wonder of it all
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The wonder of it all
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Just to think that
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God loves me
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Just to think that
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God loves me
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Thank you so much,
Jeff, for that wonderful song,
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the wonder of it all.
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Yes. And what a smooth voice.
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Oh, yeah. Very smooth.
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Thinking of Jim
Reeves. That's right.
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The old timers will
know who Jim Reeves is.
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But thank you for that.
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And it is a wonderful segue
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because it's a wonder
what God can do through lives
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that are dedicated
to carrying the gospel
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to difficult to reach places.
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And you, and I know
we've been some places
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around the world
like in New Guinea.
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There's certain places you
cannot get except by plane.
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Yeah. We were in New Guinea.
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Yeah. And what...
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You're a pilot,
aren't you, honey?
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Well, to some
degree I'm one RC pilot,
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and computer pilot.
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Computer pilot, yeah.
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I've flown
everywhere on the computer,
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but let's go ahead and dive
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in to see our guests here today.
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Let's do it.
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Good to have you
here, Bruce. Thank you.
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And Josh and Yosi.
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And just for those who
may just be joining us,
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we're talking about
Adventist World Aviation.
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Give us a little
bit of background
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on Adventist World Aviation,
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kind of how long
have they been around
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some of the places
that we could find them
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working through flight?
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Okay.
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Well, Adventist World Aviation
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was formed at the
request of Bob Falkenberg,
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Elder Falkenberg in 1995.
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A group of people got together
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and formed our organization
where mission aviation
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was starting to be transitioned
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from the church,
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sponsored to individual
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independent
ministry part of ASI.
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The mission of
Adventist World Aviation
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is to spread the gospel
to all parts of the world.
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We're currently located
in Guyana, South America.
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We're located in
Nicaragua where Josh and Yosi
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just returned from,
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and we're also located
in Palawan the Philippines.
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We also have projects,
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of course, in North America,
in Alaska and Ontario, Canada.
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Hmm. Wow.
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You were in Guyana,
you said? Yes, ma'am.
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I was there for five
years with Monique, my wife,
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and we spent a year in Palawan.
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What were you doing
for five years there?
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Well, we're
sharing the gospel message.
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We believe in, we hope everybody
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that is doing the
ministry of Christ
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is believes that
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He's in the business of
reconciling a lost world
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to Himself
through his Son Jesus.
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And so living
there, you become friends,
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you become neighbors' friends,
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and you build
lifetime relationships.
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We still have with
the people in Mabaruma.
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And we believe in
sharing the gospel
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through the
experiences that God gives us.
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You said it's
like going home. It is.
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And we'll be back there
soon. In few months, yes.
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In few months, yes. Wow.
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Okay.
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How many planes do
you have in your fleet?
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Well, we currently
have about 25, about 25.
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And that's they
are in different places
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in around the world,
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whether it's Guyana, Nicaragua,
Philippines, Alaska, Ontario,
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or right here in
the United States.
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You have a mechanic? Yes, we...
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Actually, Josh
is, not just a pilot,
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but he's also an
aircraft mechanic.
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Very good. Wow.
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Oh, you see.
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And just introduce us to them,
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kind of, I know
that we're gonna be
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interviewing
them in great detail,
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but kind of segue into.
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Okay.
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How they came
about a part of AWA?
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Well, Josh and Yosi.
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I believe they first
started with AWA in 2013 or '14.
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I first became acquainted,
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I should say with
Adventist World Aviation
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and I think 2000, 2012.
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Twelve? Okay.
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I met the president
Rick at ASI in Cincinnati.
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And we kind of started
a conversation essentially
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between myself as
well as the staff of AWA.
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I sent him an
application, I think late 2014,
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it kind of became
official early 2015.
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Great.
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And, Josh, when
he started with us,
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he was a good, a great example.
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Josh came to us with
zero aviation experience.
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Oh, wow.
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So he on his own
took flight lessons,
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became a pilot.
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He's a
commercial rated instrument,
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rated pilot or
commercial license
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instrument rated pilot.
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He's also an aircraft
and power plant mechanic.
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So he can work on the
aircraft, legally FAA aircraft
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and fly the planes.
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Wow. So there's hope for me yet?
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Yes, there is.
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I can transition
to the real thing.
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Wow, it's so
good to have you here.
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You did a lot of
research on these two.
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Yeah. This is a
wonderful couple.
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And we wanna know how you met.
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We know that you
were in Mexico, right?
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And what were you do...
Is that where you're from?
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I'm originally from Mexico, yes.
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And I came to Wildwood,
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a wonderful place in
2009 and I came there first
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and then he came two weeks later
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and later on we met,
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'cause I didn't
speak any English.
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So once I learned English,
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we started having like
the same group of friends
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and we went mountain biking
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and doing all of
this adventure things
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and, yeah, that's how come...
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How we met.
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And do we have any
pictures from your date?
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And I think we did have.
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Oh, we have a picture
of when we got engaged,
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so we got to know each
other a little in Wildwood
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and later on became friends
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and then initiated a courtship.
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Not long after that, I
think a couple of weeks,
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she ended up having
to go back to Mexico
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because of a visa issues.
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And we were separated
for about 10 months there.
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So she came back once
she got her visa cleared
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and at the second day
she was back, I proposed.
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Not letting her go
while you were there.
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Yes. Wonderful.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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The secret was
they sang the hymn,
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no turning back.
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There's actually
a friend of mine,
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he was a Cuban descent
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down there at
wildwood, Jose Noriega.
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And I remember when
we first started dating,
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he was like, Josh, you know,
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when you start
going down that runway,
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there's a point where you,
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you gotta pull back,
you're gonna lift up.
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So I remember
that. That's right.
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And that was true. And
when did you get married?
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2014 in January.
January 7th, cold day.
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Let's see, we have a picture.
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We've picture of
your wedding day.
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Well, the picture that we have,
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so funny story, we
got married two times.
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Oh, yeah.
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One time for the
judge and the immigration,
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essentially small
service in our church
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with some family
and close friends.
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That's like our
official wedding.
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Right. They counted that way.
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There you go.
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What we have more is more of a,
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not so much a formality,
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but for the
celebration of the fact,
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it's more of her
family that could come
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once they got their
visas to be able to attend.
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In July 27th... 27th, yeah.
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2014, the same year. Yeah.
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Six months later.
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Then you had two beautiful sons.
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Yeah. Caleb in 2016.
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And then Isaac, 2018. Yeah.
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Wow, wonderful.
Highly energetic.
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The type...
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You know, the type of thing
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you do go into
different parts of the world
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where conditions are not as good
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as it is here, you know?
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'Cause we're gonna
look at some pictures
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where you're in the jungles
and different things like that.
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Those are the types of
kids that you want to have.
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They don't mind
running through a mud pothole
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or not worry or what.
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Just kind of give
them a bath once a day
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and just send it back outside.
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Well, we were in Nicaragua.
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They actually were
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in their trunks
most of the time.
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Semi-trunks. Yeah, semi-trunks.
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Yeah, sorry.
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Thanks for clarifying.
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Some of that too, I'm sure.
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You lock them in
the trunk. That's fine.
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But we understand, but
let's kind of dive into,
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I've got to find out
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what made you
interested in aviation at all?
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Yeah. Yeah.
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So I didn't really
have an awful big aviation
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interest starting off.
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And my late teen years,
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I started getting introduced
to medical missionary work
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and that's kinda
what led me to Wildwood.
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And while I was there
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I wasn't sure
what I wanted to do.
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I was 18, I
guess, by that point.
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And I wasn't sure for sure
00:15:22.58\00:15:24.72
what I wanted
to put my back into
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and learn and do for God.
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I want to do something for God.
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But while there I was
working in maintenance,
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I was a work scholarship student
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for their six-month
medical missionary course,
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the college of health
evangelism they call it.
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And so while working there,
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I was working in maintenance
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and one of my
coworkers was a guy named
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Arthur from Germany
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and he was getting flight train,
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going to the mission field and
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really enthusiastic about it.
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That's just kind of guy he is,
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but he was
excited about aviation.
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And he said, Josh,
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there's a big need
in the mission field
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for pilots that something,
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I'd never been
to the mission field
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and just read stories.
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But he said,
it's an ongoing need
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and it's easy to get planes,
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but it's hard to
get people to fly them.
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So that's why
he felt the burden.
00:16:03.53\00:16:05.03
He wanted to put
his weight into that.
00:16:05.06\00:16:06.90
So he was all
excited and we worked away.
00:16:06.93\00:16:08.80
Well, that's interesting,
00:16:08.83\00:16:10.27
but not, I was really interested
00:16:10.30\00:16:11.63
in at the point.
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But once he got his
private pilot's license,
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he had to build hours to work
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towards his commercial license.
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So once he got his private,
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he called me and said,
Josh, you wanna go some place?
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I gotta build some hours.
Let's go some place flying.
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I remember I was working
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in the health
food store at that time
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and I was on the phone with him.
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He said, Where
do you want to go?
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It was coming
close to Thanksgiving.
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So I asked him if
he could fly me home
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for Thanksgiving,
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which is about
to Kentucky, yeah.
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So this is from Wildwood,
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Georgia around Chattanooga area.
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Yeah.
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So it take about
maybe about five hours
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to get home typically.
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But in a small plane
took up two and a half hours.
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So he's like, you know,
00:16:45.87\00:16:47.54
he planned it all out
and make a real special.
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He said, we'll get
up early in the morning.
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We'll see the sunrise,
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we'll get your
home by the morning
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and to the little airport.
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So we got up, you
know, crack a dawn
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and flew out of
Collegedale airport there.
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Yes. And I enrolled paper 140.
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Okay. And landed there.
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But in flight, I
got the full feel of,
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the full experience
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grabbed the yoke and everything.
00:17:07.02\00:17:08.36
And it was kind of intimidating,
00:17:08.39\00:17:09.96
but I just thought
how neat it was to be
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able to be at another location,
you know, on our schedule in
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an expedient amount of time.
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So we flew there real quickly.
00:17:17.77\00:17:19.30
And I just thought to myself,
00:17:19.33\00:17:20.67
if there's a need
for people to do this,
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I'm willing to do this for God.
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Amen.
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So that's kind of where
the interest sprang from.
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Oh, my. That's exciting.
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And you had no
interest in aviation whatsoever.
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Nothing prior.
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No previous real
experience to count.
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Nobody in my family
did aviation at all.
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So it was bare
bones from scratch.
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Not even computer piloting?
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I think I played
a couple of games,
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you know, that's what I did.
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But now, how did the
Lord provide for that?
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'Cause I know there...
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As I'm looking at, you know,
00:17:51.00\00:17:52.60
'cause when you talk
about pilot's license
00:17:52.63\00:17:54.34
and getting all
that kind of training,
00:17:54.37\00:17:55.70
that could be
pretty steep and expensive.
00:17:55.74\00:17:57.61
Yeah. Oh. yeah.
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Because God opened the way.
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So at that point I had no idea,
00:18:00.38\00:18:02.14
you know, I had
nothing to reference it to
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'cause I had no
previous experience.
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I didn't know
how expensive it was,
00:18:06.15\00:18:07.82
but I knew it
probably wasn't cheap.
00:18:07.85\00:18:09.28
I didn't have money
to do really anything
00:18:09.32\00:18:11.55
as far as training goes,
00:18:11.59\00:18:13.22
but Arthur told me,
he's like, you know,
00:18:13.25\00:18:14.96
God really opened
door for me to do this.
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I know that it's His will,
00:18:16.36\00:18:17.69
He can open the
doors for you too.
00:18:17.73\00:18:19.06
That's right. Amen.
00:18:19.09\00:18:20.43
And it wasn't in the
same way for him that
00:18:20.46\00:18:21.93
it was for me that
God open the doors and,
00:18:21.96\00:18:25.23
you know, God leads
people different ways,
00:18:25.27\00:18:27.54
but eventually God
opened the same doors
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and maybe a few additional ones
00:18:29.67\00:18:31.07
for me that He did
for my friend Arthur.
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So I initially started looking
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for training in Michigan
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and I was up there
doing training for a while.
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It was awful cold.
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I was by myself,
00:18:43.49\00:18:44.82
living in a
little apartment there.
00:18:44.85\00:18:46.19
And I started wondering
00:18:46.22\00:18:47.56
if there was
better options back home.
00:18:47.59\00:18:49.42
So I checked
out a closer airport
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to where my mom
lived down in Kentucky.
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I found options were cheaper,
construction was cheaper.
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And I started thinking,
00:18:57.27\00:18:58.60
'cause at that point I
was doing gutters to pay
00:18:58.63\00:19:00.67
for my housing as
well as some flight train.
00:19:00.70\00:19:04.34
So I wanted to get actually
in the business of aviation
00:19:04.37\00:19:07.18
to really learn it
00:19:07.21\00:19:08.54
'cause I was learning
gutters in the same way
00:19:08.58\00:19:09.91
I was trying to fly
00:19:09.94\00:19:11.28
and I'd get all into aviation
and really get a background.
00:19:11.31\00:19:13.65
What do you mean
gutters? Oh, yeah.
00:19:13.68\00:19:15.35
Gutter
installation, rain gutters.
00:19:15.38\00:19:16.82
Okay. Got you. Rain gutters.
00:19:16.85\00:19:18.22
Okay. Rain gutters.
00:19:18.25\00:19:19.75
Great boss, great people.
00:19:19.79\00:19:21.12
I was working for up
in the Detroit Metro area,
00:19:21.16\00:19:24.13
but it wasn't, they
would want to get into.
00:19:24.16\00:19:25.49
Right.
00:19:25.53\00:19:26.86
You gonna spend
time learning this
00:19:26.90\00:19:28.23
and then it pays the bills,
00:19:28.26\00:19:29.60
but not really want
to do is lifelong goal.
00:19:29.63\00:19:30.97
So we went and called back home
00:19:31.00\00:19:33.74
and asked about a
job at a small airport
00:19:33.77\00:19:36.04
and talked to
the airport manager
00:19:36.07\00:19:38.21
and he said,
00:19:38.24\00:19:39.57
well, it's
funny you should call.
00:19:39.61\00:19:40.94
We have a guy who's
a line, the line guy,
00:19:40.98\00:19:42.84
our line service technician
or refueler essentially that
00:19:42.88\00:19:45.91
just broke his
hand and we might be
00:19:45.95\00:19:47.98
looking for
somebody here in near future.
00:19:48.02\00:19:50.15
So it kind of gave me
a little glimmer of hope
00:19:50.19\00:19:52.39
and that was basically
00:19:52.42\00:19:54.12
all I had and I moved back home
00:19:54.16\00:19:55.56
within a month of
that, for that job.
00:19:55.59\00:19:58.53
And I interviewed at the airport
00:19:58.56\00:20:00.96
once I got there and
there wasn't work just yet.
00:20:01.00\00:20:03.43
The airport managers say once
business picks up a little bit,
00:20:03.47\00:20:06.13
we'll give you a call.
00:20:06.17\00:20:07.64
So at that point I was
like, well, what do I for now.
00:20:07.67\00:20:10.31
So I was just kind
of tooling my thumbs
00:20:10.34\00:20:11.77
for a couple of weeks,
00:20:11.81\00:20:13.14
but then a fellow church member,
00:20:13.17\00:20:15.51
he's a contractor.
00:20:15.54\00:20:16.88
He had just built a house.
00:20:16.91\00:20:18.25
And in the fall of that
year, it was, this was summer.
00:20:18.28\00:20:22.02
But a house, that
same house got a tree
00:20:22.05\00:20:24.02
that fell on top of it.
00:20:24.05\00:20:25.42
And so the guy who built it,
00:20:25.45\00:20:27.06
my friend got the insurance job
00:20:27.09\00:20:28.92
to repair the house
and he needed some help.
00:20:28.96\00:20:31.43
So he invited me to help him.
00:20:31.46\00:20:33.80
And that provided a
work to the day that
00:20:33.83\00:20:36.13
I started work at the airport.
00:20:36.16\00:20:37.63
Wow. The Lord provide.
00:20:37.67\00:20:39.20
I hadn't had any word
back from the airport,
00:20:39.23\00:20:41.17
you know, about that job.
00:20:41.20\00:20:42.54
And I was like scrambling,
checking out options,
00:20:42.57\00:20:44.21
calling people,
00:20:44.24\00:20:45.84
I'm trying to
figure out what to do.
00:20:45.87\00:20:47.48
And then one day
I got two voicemails
00:20:47.51\00:20:49.94
and I didn't have
good cell reception
00:20:49.98\00:20:51.31
where I was at.
00:20:51.35\00:20:52.68
So I climbed up on
the roof of this house,
00:20:52.71\00:20:54.05
you know, trying to
get these voicemails.
00:20:54.08\00:20:55.78
And it was two, one
was from the airport saying
00:20:55.82\00:20:57.72
if you want a job
show up on Monday.
00:20:57.75\00:20:59.19
And the other one was
from just the day that
00:20:59.22\00:21:01.69
she got her visa
to come to the States.
00:21:01.72\00:21:04.76
So after a while of
waiting and, you know,
00:21:04.79\00:21:07.20
and really bite my
nails, I had two good news.
00:21:07.23\00:21:09.66
Things happen in one instance.
00:21:09.70\00:21:12.13
And you also had bad news
too, with your parents, right?
00:21:12.17\00:21:15.50
Yeah.
00:21:15.54\00:21:18.17
Looking around
out the airport story.
00:21:18.21\00:21:19.94
You know, I got
the job at the airport
00:21:19.97\00:21:21.31
and through that job,
00:21:21.34\00:21:22.68
I was able to
get free instruction
00:21:22.71\00:21:26.01
from instructors
that I made friends with.
00:21:26.05\00:21:27.98
I was able to use the aircraft
00:21:28.02\00:21:29.35
and just pay for
the price of the fuel,
00:21:29.38\00:21:31.52
which cuts the price at
about third of the price
00:21:31.55\00:21:34.12
you usually had to pay.
00:21:34.16\00:21:35.49
It's awesome.
00:21:35.52\00:21:36.86
So those two things,
that's kind of how I was
00:21:36.89\00:21:38.23
able to get the flight training.
00:21:38.26\00:21:40.30
And I was able to get
my maintenance licenses
00:21:40.33\00:21:42.90
through the apprenticeship.
00:21:42.93\00:21:45.30
You go to a school and
pay 20, 50,000 for that,
00:21:45.33\00:21:48.34
but I got paid to do it.
00:21:48.37\00:21:49.70
God blessing. Wow.
00:21:49.74\00:21:51.07
He got paid to do
it. That's a blessing.
00:21:51.11\00:21:52.77
What a blessing? See.
00:21:52.81\00:21:54.14
the thing about what
we're hearing is the Lord
00:21:54.18\00:21:56.08
sees where you're headed
00:21:56.11\00:21:57.45
and He is kind of
like clearing the path,
00:21:57.48\00:22:00.72
moving all the mountains
00:22:00.75\00:22:02.08
and the trees out of the way
00:22:02.12\00:22:03.89
and getting you
ready for something that
00:22:03.92\00:22:05.69
now you look back
on and you could see,
00:22:05.72\00:22:08.22
you climbed up to
the roof of the house
00:22:08.26\00:22:10.39
and you got two of
00:22:10.43\00:22:11.79
the most important
calls in your life.
00:22:11.83\00:22:14.56
You went up higher.
00:22:14.60\00:22:16.06
Take off, no pun intended,
00:22:16.10\00:22:17.90
but that's amazing
how the Lord does that.
00:22:17.93\00:22:20.14
And so you've been with AWA,
00:22:20.17\00:22:23.64
but you were
talking about that bad news.
00:22:23.67\00:22:25.21
I want to kind of get to that.
00:22:25.24\00:22:26.57
That was a kind of a kink
in the journey you were taking.
00:22:26.61\00:22:29.54
So yeah, as we're
pursuing the license as well,
00:22:29.58\00:22:31.88
just after I got my
private pilot's license
00:22:31.91\00:22:34.02
that was 2000.
00:22:34.05\00:22:35.38
Yeah, on that same time frame.
00:22:35.42\00:22:39.09
My mom had developed cancer
00:22:39.12\00:22:40.49
while I was working
on my pilot's license,
00:22:40.52\00:22:42.12
skin cancer and,
the following summer
00:22:42.16\00:22:45.43
after I got my license,
she passed away from it.
00:22:45.46\00:22:47.60
So sad.
00:22:47.63\00:22:48.96
And then the following
month, I think that was June
00:22:49.00\00:22:51.87
and then July, my
father passed away
00:22:51.90\00:22:53.23
from a heart attack.
00:22:53.27\00:22:54.60
Wow. Wow.
00:22:54.64\00:22:55.97
They weren't together.
00:22:56.00\00:22:57.34
They were divorced
when I was young age,
00:22:57.37\00:22:58.71
but we were actually at the time
00:22:58.74\00:23:00.08
living with my father.
00:23:00.11\00:23:01.44
We were away doing some
promotion stuff with AWA,
00:23:01.48\00:23:03.48
Oshkosh, Wisconsin.
00:23:03.51\00:23:04.85
Okay. But we...
00:23:04.88\00:23:07.02
We had a call.
Yeah, we had a call.
00:23:07.05\00:23:08.58
We couldn't reach
him in and elder went in
00:23:08.62\00:23:10.95
and checked in and
he had a heart attack
00:23:10.99\00:23:13.05
there at home.
00:23:13.09\00:23:15.12
But you know,
the doors, the Lord,
00:23:15.16\00:23:17.13
the beautiful thing
about it is, you know,
00:23:17.16\00:23:19.16
when you're living
for the Lord, you know,
00:23:19.19\00:23:20.53
you'll see your
loved ones again.
00:23:20.56\00:23:22.53
A neat story here.
00:23:22.56\00:23:25.80
He had joined Adventist Church
00:23:25.83\00:23:27.17
whenever him and
my mom got married.
00:23:27.20\00:23:29.77
But then left the church kind
of disgruntled with the church
00:23:29.80\00:23:32.47
because of the relationship
00:23:32.51\00:23:33.84
there are falling
out in different things.
00:23:33.88\00:23:35.71
But he moved to Kentucky
just two years, basically,
00:23:35.74\00:23:39.35
maybe a little less than
two years before he passed.
00:23:39.38\00:23:41.62
And eventually started
coming to church with me.
00:23:41.65\00:23:43.62
Really?
00:23:43.65\00:23:44.99
And got
relationship with the head elder
00:23:45.02\00:23:46.62
and they hang out lot.
00:23:46.65\00:23:47.99
And then they
started going door to door
00:23:48.02\00:23:49.42
and handed out a
literature and all stuff.
00:23:49.46\00:23:51.29
Doing special
music. Special music.
00:23:51.33\00:23:53.13
And eventually he
got baptized. What?
00:23:53.16\00:23:54.50
Amen.
00:23:54.53\00:23:55.86
Just a matter of months
later is when he passed.
00:23:55.90\00:23:57.27
He was very excited.
00:23:57.30\00:23:58.63
He was gonna have a
grandson, both of them.
00:23:58.67\00:24:01.87
He was at the
church on that Sunday,
00:24:01.90\00:24:04.11
before he passed.
00:24:04.14\00:24:05.47
And one of the matriarchs
from the church told us
00:24:05.51\00:24:07.81
later that he has a...
00:24:07.84\00:24:09.18
Your dad told me that,
that Sunday he's so happy.
00:24:09.21\00:24:12.21
He's so happy he could die.
00:24:12.25\00:24:16.62
He says that? Yeah.
00:24:16.65\00:24:18.42
Wow. Wow.
00:24:18.45\00:24:19.95
Well, the beautiful thing
00:24:19.99\00:24:21.32
is he closed his
eyes in the Lord.
00:24:21.36\00:24:22.69
And that's the
main thing about it.
00:24:22.72\00:24:24.06
Yeah. We have another picture.
00:24:24.09\00:24:25.43
I want you to...
00:24:25.46\00:24:26.80
I want to bring it up
and just have you explain
00:24:26.83\00:24:28.16
what we're seeing
00:24:28.20\00:24:29.53
'cause there
are those who are...
00:24:29.56\00:24:30.90
Yeah. Yeah.
00:24:30.93\00:24:32.27
So a little more current.
00:24:32.30\00:24:33.64
This is just here
recently going down to Nicaragua
00:24:33.67\00:24:37.37
for our pre-deployment trip.
00:24:37.41\00:24:39.21
So we went down there
with the project manager
00:24:39.24\00:24:41.91
and his wife
Ray and Julia Young,
00:24:41.94\00:24:43.58
they're on the left
there, they're from Canada.
00:24:43.61\00:24:46.05
And so we went
down there to get a feel
00:24:46.08\00:24:48.25
for the mission
field essentially,
00:24:48.28\00:24:49.85
where we're going to be serving.
00:24:49.88\00:24:51.39
So we were down
there for three months
00:24:51.42\00:24:53.56
with the Young's kind
of getting some things
00:24:53.59\00:24:55.26
in order with
the base and whatnot
00:24:55.29\00:24:57.06
and getting operations going,
00:24:57.09\00:24:58.56
had been dormant
for a little bit,
00:24:58.59\00:24:59.93
not too awful long,
00:24:59.96\00:25:01.30
but we got a
feel for the country.
00:25:01.33\00:25:02.86
Got a feel for the needs,
00:25:02.90\00:25:04.23
got to get
networked a little bit
00:25:04.27\00:25:05.60
with some of the
personalities down
00:25:05.63\00:25:06.97
there we'll be
working along with,
00:25:07.00\00:25:08.34
and a really good experience.
00:25:08.37\00:25:09.70
We were expecting to
go for about a month.
00:25:09.74\00:25:11.94
But Pastor Ric said three months
00:25:11.97\00:25:13.88
is probably what
you're gonna need.
00:25:13.91\00:25:15.34
I was almost
thrown back of that.
00:25:15.38\00:25:17.11
That's literally.
That's a long trip there.
00:25:17.15\00:25:19.98
You don't think
about bills back home,
00:25:20.02\00:25:21.42
but God provided
and three months was
00:25:21.45\00:25:23.72
just what we needed
just to get some things
00:25:23.75\00:25:25.95
in order down there
00:25:25.99\00:25:27.32
as well as get a
feel for the country.
00:25:27.36\00:25:28.69
And your wife speaks
Spanish. So that's a big help.
00:25:28.72\00:25:30.63
Yeah. Yeah.
00:25:30.66\00:25:31.99
Yeah. That was nice.
00:25:32.03\00:25:33.36
Even though they speak
Miskito there too a lot.
00:25:33.40\00:25:35.16
And I did not understand
anything what that Miskito.
00:25:35.20\00:25:38.87
It's a local
indigenous people down there
00:25:38.90\00:25:40.77
and they speak in
00:25:40.80\00:25:42.14
different
languages in Nicaragua,
00:25:42.17\00:25:43.51
as well as...
00:25:43.54\00:25:44.87
Miskito. Miskito.
00:25:44.91\00:25:46.24
Miskito. It sounds like the bug.
00:25:46.27\00:25:47.61
Yeah. I was thinking that.
00:25:47.64\00:25:49.18
That's what I was thinking.
00:25:49.21\00:25:50.55
I was kind of preventing
myself from going there,
00:25:50.58\00:25:52.71
but it sounds so close.
00:25:52.75\00:25:54.08
Yeah. That's very
interesting. Yeah.
00:25:54.12\00:25:55.45
So project in Nicaragua is
in the Northeastern portion
00:25:55.48\00:25:57.99
of Nicaragua in the mountains.
00:25:58.02\00:25:59.75
So it's isolated. It's not...
00:25:59.79\00:26:01.62
And I believe Yosi is
the speck in the jungle,
00:26:01.66\00:26:05.09
but found like a kind of a...
00:26:05.13\00:26:07.36
Pine Savannah. Yes.
00:26:07.40\00:26:08.73
Savannah pines. A lot of pines.
00:26:08.76\00:26:10.50
Yeah.
00:26:10.53\00:26:11.87
Not too far
away from the jungle,
00:26:11.90\00:26:13.23
but we're just
in, through the end of
00:26:13.27\00:26:14.60
the pines savannah
there and a lot of pine trees,
00:26:14.64\00:26:18.17
I had never seen
any place like it.
00:26:18.21\00:26:19.54
Probably hills.
Where do you land?
00:26:19.57\00:26:20.91
Is there a landing strip? Yes.
00:26:20.94\00:26:22.28
Yeah. There's a
little landing strip.
00:26:22.31\00:26:23.65
It used to be an old
air force base actually.
00:26:23.68\00:26:25.01
Wow.
00:26:25.05\00:26:26.38
Before that, I
believe it serves the,
00:26:26.41\00:26:28.88
some of the gringos as
they call them down there
00:26:28.92\00:26:30.99
where they would export
pine sap from these pine trees.
00:26:31.02\00:26:34.02
I think, I'm not sure
if it came with the gringos
00:26:34.06\00:26:36.32
or came with the
military, of the air strip.
00:26:36.36\00:26:38.96
But at a really decent airstrip,
00:26:38.99\00:26:40.33
Ric serving long for its sap.
00:26:40.36\00:26:42.76
And how, what was
your mode of transportation
00:26:42.80\00:26:45.83
after you land your
mode of transportation?
00:26:45.87\00:26:48.87
How far did you have to
travel to get to the places
00:26:48.90\00:26:51.07
that you were in the ministry?
00:26:51.11\00:26:52.44
Yeah.
00:26:52.47\00:26:53.81
That's a long story, so
we'll start it from the top.
00:26:53.84\00:26:57.35
But getting
down there, you know,
00:26:57.38\00:26:58.71
we had to get COVID
test to get it down there,
00:26:58.75\00:27:00.72
'cause of the pandemic.
00:27:00.75\00:27:02.08
We didn't know how we
were going to do that.
00:27:02.12\00:27:04.15
'Cause we were in
route to North Carolina,
00:27:04.19\00:27:05.65
but we found out that
00:27:05.69\00:27:07.02
wasn't gonna work
in North Carolina.
00:27:07.06\00:27:08.39
We stopped at a
random place in West Virginia
00:27:08.42\00:27:09.92
and a place opened up
right where we stopped for lunch
00:27:09.96\00:27:12.56
to take a COVID test
that had the turn around time
00:27:12.59\00:27:14.80
that we needed
to get the results
00:27:14.83\00:27:16.33
turned into the airlines.
00:27:16.36\00:27:17.73
So then once we
got on the airlines,
00:27:17.77\00:27:19.10
we flew from Raleigh to Miami,
00:27:19.13\00:27:21.50
spent the night in Miami,
flew from Miami to Managua,
00:27:21.54\00:27:24.34
which is the
capital of Nicaragua.
00:27:24.37\00:27:26.07
On the other
side of the country.
00:27:26.11\00:27:27.44
On the Pacific
side, the Western side.
00:27:27.48\00:27:29.08
Wow.
00:27:29.11\00:27:30.45
So we spent about a week
00:27:30.48\00:27:31.81
there taking
care of some business.
00:27:31.85\00:27:33.18
And then we took
a van from Managua
00:27:33.21\00:27:34.85
to the opposite
coast on the Atlantic side,
00:27:34.88\00:27:37.02
Eastern coast that took
about 18 hours I think with...
00:27:37.05\00:27:41.26
By road? Yeah.
00:27:41.29\00:27:42.89
By road. Did you have your boys?
00:27:42.92\00:27:45.53
Yes. Of course.
00:27:45.56\00:27:46.90
That must've been a lot of fun.
00:27:46.93\00:27:48.93
It was a little rough
too, because you know,
00:27:48.96\00:27:52.23
you're new to the
country, your stomach,
00:27:52.27\00:27:54.30
it's also getting
used to the new place.
00:27:54.34\00:27:57.07
So our older one
here was puking, yeah.
00:27:57.11\00:28:01.94
But we made it.
00:28:01.98\00:28:03.58
Now, you think you
have a short video clip
00:28:03.61\00:28:05.61
of the drive going on.
00:28:05.65\00:28:07.18
We have a little bit
of, a little bit of a clip
00:28:07.22\00:28:08.72
from showing the roads
and also some transportation.
00:28:08.75\00:28:11.15
So once we got to the coast,
00:28:11.19\00:28:13.05
we had another two hour drive,
00:28:13.09\00:28:15.46
two and a half hour
drive up to the base
00:28:15.49\00:28:17.53
and we took the
small base truck,
00:28:17.56\00:28:18.89
I think we have a
picture of the truck.
00:28:18.93\00:28:20.26
It was a video, some
of the rough roads there.
00:28:20.30\00:28:23.10
This isn't the
same road to the base,
00:28:23.13\00:28:25.00
but it's the...
00:28:25.03\00:28:26.37
Another stretch of it,
00:28:26.40\00:28:27.90
basically shows a
little bit of how it looks,
00:28:27.94\00:28:29.34
a lot of pine trees,
00:28:29.37\00:28:30.71
potholes would just
jump out, it's kind of...
00:28:30.74\00:28:33.71
You did 18 hours of
something like that?
00:28:33.74\00:28:35.88
Something like that. Yeah.
00:28:35.91\00:28:37.25
Well some of it was paved.
00:28:37.28\00:28:38.61
Some of it was like
that, we should say.
00:28:38.65\00:28:40.62
The road to the base
from the coastal city is about
00:28:40.65\00:28:44.52
like that dirt, the whole way,
00:28:44.55\00:28:46.32
potholes, intermittently.
00:28:46.35\00:28:47.69
Sometimes it'd be a
nice stretch of smooth,
00:28:47.72\00:28:49.92
you know, get up speed.
00:28:49.96\00:28:51.29
And then all of a
sudden there's a pothole.
00:28:51.33\00:28:52.66
You'll be winding it up
00:28:52.69\00:28:54.03
trying to not hit
the heads on the roof.
00:28:54.06\00:28:56.73
Yeah. No potty stops anywhere?
00:28:56.77\00:28:58.63
Rest areas? Anywhere you want.
00:28:58.67\00:29:02.04
It's very remote, you know,
00:29:02.07\00:29:03.41
so there's not a
whole lot of traffic
00:29:03.44\00:29:05.01
through the area you'll,
you'll come through a village
00:29:05.04\00:29:07.14
and then it'll be just open
and nowhere for a long time.
00:29:07.18\00:29:10.95
That's a plus of
having boys. Very flexible.
00:29:10.98\00:29:15.72
What will you be
doing in Nicaragua?
00:29:15.75\00:29:18.59
So basically the project's
00:29:18.62\00:29:19.95
been there for
about 12 years, roughly.
00:29:19.99\00:29:22.32
It's been serving mainly
00:29:22.36\00:29:24.36
through medivacs to
the local little towns
00:29:24.39\00:29:26.59
and airstrips to
a bigger hospital.
00:29:26.63\00:29:29.03
That's what the
main bread and butter is.
00:29:29.06\00:29:31.73
So the places
are hard to get to,
00:29:31.77\00:29:34.00
the roads are even rougher
than what you saw in the video
00:29:34.04\00:29:36.04
there sometimes,
especially in the rainy season
00:29:36.07\00:29:37.81
with the traffic,
00:29:37.84\00:29:39.17
the potholes
just get to be lakes.
00:29:39.21\00:29:41.14
And it's hard to get places.
00:29:41.18\00:29:43.48
One of the main hospitals
we serve is three hours away
00:29:43.51\00:29:45.65
from the main
hospital on the coast.
00:29:45.68\00:29:48.15
That's, you know, when the roads
00:29:48.18\00:29:49.52
are in good condition.
00:29:49.55\00:29:50.92
So a lot of times
we'll be taking people
00:29:50.95\00:29:52.75
from that hospital
to the larger hospital,
00:29:52.79\00:29:54.62
as well as some other
neighboring communities
00:29:54.66\00:29:56.16
to the larger hospital.
00:29:56.19\00:29:57.93
The main
hospital will be served,
00:29:57.96\00:29:59.29
it's about 35 minutes drive away
00:29:59.33\00:30:01.00
from where the
basis is a small hospital.
00:30:01.03\00:30:03.47
Very, very much limited
as to what they can do there.
00:30:03.50\00:30:06.74
Any kind of major
surgery has to go to the coast
00:30:06.77\00:30:09.17
and they
service 114 communities,
00:30:09.20\00:30:12.34
a very large amount.
00:30:12.37\00:30:14.11
And some of those
communities can be,
00:30:14.14\00:30:15.48
you know, just
maybe five families to,
00:30:15.51\00:30:17.41
you know, maybe
hundreds of people.
00:30:17.45\00:30:19.98
Maybe they have a
clinic, maybe they don't,
00:30:20.02\00:30:22.05
but they service a lot of folks.
00:30:22.08\00:30:23.92
And some of those
folks need to travel hours
00:30:23.95\00:30:25.45
by either trail road
or boat to get to them,
00:30:25.49\00:30:29.19
let alone to the big hospital.
00:30:29.22\00:30:30.56
Wow.
00:30:30.59\00:30:31.93
So our main thing is to
take and make that region
00:30:31.96\00:30:33.93
a little smaller by air travel
00:30:33.96\00:30:35.43
so they can get
to the healthcare
00:30:35.46\00:30:36.80
that they need in
a expedient manner.
00:30:36.83\00:30:38.17
Yeah.
00:30:38.20\00:30:39.53
You have a picture
of some of the families
00:30:39.57\00:30:40.90
that you minister to there.
00:30:40.94\00:30:42.27
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
00:30:42.30\00:30:43.64
Because it's pretty interesting.
00:30:43.67\00:30:45.01
Let's look at that right now
00:30:45.04\00:30:46.37
and just tell us what
we're looking at here?
00:30:46.41\00:30:47.74
So this family here has
00:30:47.78\00:30:49.11
a little bit of
a background story.
00:30:49.14\00:30:51.18
I think the lady in the
back underneath the house
00:30:51.21\00:30:53.58
there was the main
lady that we helped.
00:30:53.62\00:30:57.15
We got a call from
the community nurse
00:30:57.19\00:30:58.92
saying that we
have a serious case
00:30:58.95\00:31:00.29
needs to the hospital.
00:31:00.32\00:31:01.66
And this was after
Sabbath on Saturday,
00:31:01.69\00:31:04.79
we were with Ray and
Julie with popcorn smoothies,
00:31:04.83\00:31:07.33
some typical Adventist thing.
00:31:07.36\00:31:09.96
And she got a call
from a nurse and said,
00:31:10.00\00:31:12.07
there's a serious case
needs to get the hospital ASAP.
00:31:12.10\00:31:14.70
And this was after dark.
00:31:14.74\00:31:16.07
So I got on the truck,
went over to these folks' house
00:31:16.10\00:31:18.37
and pull up and
there's maybe 15 people
00:31:18.41\00:31:22.14
all gathered around
and I'm guessing family.
00:31:22.18\00:31:24.58
And they come out and
there's two young guys
00:31:24.61\00:31:26.18
carrying this lady.
00:31:26.21\00:31:27.55
And she looks by all evidence
is kind of unresponsive.
00:31:27.58\00:31:30.82
She was limp as
they were carrying her.
00:31:30.85\00:31:32.35
And they carried
her to the vehicle.
00:31:32.39\00:31:34.26
And she lay there in the back
00:31:34.29\00:31:35.62
with a lady
supporting her head in her lap
00:31:35.66\00:31:38.23
and the nurse got in the front.
00:31:38.26\00:31:39.59
So we head to the hospital
00:31:39.63\00:31:40.96
and she was just
motionless, didn't make a noise.
00:31:41.00\00:31:43.47
Until about
halfway to the hospital,
00:31:43.50\00:31:45.67
she started vomiting
and it would just dry-heave.
00:31:45.70\00:31:49.60
And I talked to the nurse
with the limited Spanish I have
00:31:49.64\00:31:52.27
and ask her, you
know, what she has.
00:31:52.31\00:31:53.98
And she said on,
00:31:54.01\00:31:55.34
I don't know if she's
just doing this all day.
00:31:55.38\00:31:57.98
And so she was just dry-heaving.
00:31:58.01\00:31:59.35
I was like, man,
I wish she stopped
00:31:59.38\00:32:00.88
'cause I know how
that can be painful.
00:32:00.92\00:32:02.75
That's where I sent up a prayer.
00:32:02.78\00:32:04.12
And she after maybe
a minute she stopped.
00:32:04.15\00:32:08.02
Amen.
00:32:08.06\00:32:09.39
And once we got to the hospital,
00:32:09.42\00:32:10.76
she maybe
dry-heaved a couple more times,
00:32:10.79\00:32:12.13
but then it stopped
00:32:12.16\00:32:13.50
and they were
able to care for her.
00:32:13.53\00:32:14.86
And as you can see
there, she was fine.
00:32:14.90\00:32:16.23
But the way she looked,
00:32:16.26\00:32:17.60
I didn't know if she
was gonna make it out,
00:32:17.63\00:32:18.97
but she was fine.
00:32:19.00\00:32:20.34
So later on Yosi is like, well,
00:32:20.37\00:32:21.74
we want to do some
outreach in the community.
00:32:21.77\00:32:23.71
And we want to
hand out some books.
00:32:23.74\00:32:25.07
And I said, well, why
don't we visit the people
00:32:25.11\00:32:26.44
we were able to service?
00:32:26.47\00:32:28.44
See how they're doing.
00:32:28.48\00:32:29.81
They should
probably be a little more
00:32:29.84\00:32:31.18
open to receiving a book.
00:32:31.21\00:32:32.81
So we were giving
out Steps to Christ
00:32:32.85\00:32:34.18
to a number of
families that we had helped.
00:32:34.22\00:32:35.55
And they were one of them
and they received us warmly.
00:32:35.58\00:32:38.62
Now, Bruce angel
flights. What is that?
00:32:38.65\00:32:42.22
Well, angel flights
or humanitarian flights,
00:32:42.26\00:32:44.99
basically, they're
just different organizations
00:32:45.03\00:32:47.40
throughout the US but
Adventist World Aviation
00:32:47.43\00:32:50.17
based in
Smithfield, North Carolina.
00:32:50.20\00:32:51.63
We do angel flights based
on people calling us, pastors,
00:32:51.67\00:32:56.84
community, friends,
00:32:56.87\00:32:58.57
or that need a patient
that perhaps they have cancer.
00:32:58.61\00:33:02.41
Perhaps they have a
serious medical appointment.
00:33:02.44\00:33:04.55
I guess not for emergency care,
00:33:04.58\00:33:06.41
but if they have to
get to their appointment,
00:33:06.45\00:33:07.78
it's a long distance
00:33:07.82\00:33:09.15
and they don't
have a means to do it.
00:33:09.18\00:33:10.99
A small plane can
make the difference.
00:33:11.02\00:33:12.75
For example,
recently we I think Josh
00:33:12.79\00:33:16.02
just did a flight for
individual from Asheville,
00:33:16.06\00:33:18.43
North Carolina
to Arkansas. Yeah.
00:33:18.46\00:33:20.43
And that was... Was
this the lady with cancer?
00:33:20.46\00:33:22.76
No, that was a
different one, yeah.
00:33:22.80\00:33:24.73
So angel flights
don't necessarily
00:33:24.77\00:33:26.30
even have to be
a medical flight,
00:33:26.33\00:33:27.67
could be for any
other humanitarian reason.
00:33:27.70\00:33:29.04
Yes.
00:33:29.07\00:33:30.41
And this lady
was a prime example.
00:33:30.44\00:33:31.94
She was coming from a
domestic abuse situation
00:33:31.97\00:33:34.91
and needed to get
to a court date back
00:33:34.94\00:33:38.31
where the
situation had occurred.
00:33:38.35\00:33:39.68
And that was gonna
be a 10-hour drive.
00:33:39.71\00:33:41.05
Wow.
00:33:41.08\00:33:42.42
She didn't have a vehicle
00:33:42.45\00:33:43.79
and public transport
can be kind of rough,
00:33:43.82\00:33:45.15
especially with COVID right now.
00:33:45.19\00:33:46.52
Emotional. Yeah.
00:33:46.55\00:33:47.89
Emotional situation as well.
00:33:47.92\00:33:49.26
And an airline, you know,
00:33:49.29\00:33:50.63
couldn't get her very
close to where she was at.
00:33:50.66\00:33:52.09
So having somebody pick
her up was gonna be an issue.
00:33:52.13\00:33:54.53
So she got in touch
with through some friends.
00:33:54.56\00:33:57.57
Actually they
got in touch for her,
00:33:57.60\00:33:59.43
with Pastor Ric
and he gave me a call
00:33:59.47\00:34:01.80
and that week all planned out,
00:34:01.84\00:34:04.17
I cut trees for a
living for myself.
00:34:04.21\00:34:06.47
And I had a week all
planned out what to do.
00:34:06.51\00:34:07.98
And he gives me a
call and said, hey,
00:34:08.01\00:34:10.65
can you do an angel flight?
00:34:10.68\00:34:12.01
Well, I got a
whole week planned out,
00:34:12.05\00:34:13.38
you know, and I
hate changing directions,
00:34:13.42\00:34:15.42
but I know what it's like
00:34:15.45\00:34:17.09
to have a door opened
up when I really need one.
00:34:17.12\00:34:18.72
So I want it to be that
door for her and be God's hands.
00:34:18.75\00:34:21.72
And plus I had
just cut my finger
00:34:21.76\00:34:23.26
sharpening the chainsaw.
00:34:23.29\00:34:25.33
It was steel? Yeah.
00:34:25.36\00:34:26.83
Steel chainsaw.
00:34:26.86\00:34:28.20
So I think it
probably should have
00:34:28.23\00:34:30.63
had a chance to heal anyway.
00:34:30.67\00:34:32.00
So that was a good chance
00:34:32.03\00:34:33.37
to have a low
traffic from my finger.
00:34:33.40\00:34:35.94
And so was able to go
00:34:35.97\00:34:37.51
to North
Carolina pickup the plane,
00:34:37.54\00:34:40.18
pick her up in Asheville
and take her to Arkansas.
00:34:40.21\00:34:42.54
I think you have
a picture of her?
00:34:42.58\00:34:43.91
Yeah.
00:34:43.95\00:34:45.28
Later we have a picture
00:34:45.31\00:34:46.65
there staying next to the plane,
00:34:46.68\00:34:48.02
actually was the same plane
00:34:48.05\00:34:49.38
it's gonna be
going to Nicaragua.
00:34:49.42\00:34:50.75
Okay.
00:34:50.79\00:34:52.12
So Cessna 182,
it's been outfitted
00:34:52.15\00:34:53.49
with a larger tires
and modified leading edge
00:34:53.52\00:34:54.92
to make it go slower with ease,
00:34:54.96\00:34:57.26
longer wings, modified interior
as well, more utilitarian.
00:34:57.29\00:35:00.00
Okay.
00:35:00.03\00:35:01.36
So you've made the
wings a little longer?
00:35:01.40\00:35:02.73
Yeah. Yeah.
00:35:02.76\00:35:04.10
Okay. I like that.
00:35:04.13\00:35:05.47
You fly that all
the way in Nicaragua.
00:35:05.50\00:35:06.84
Yeah. It's gonna be flying.
00:35:06.87\00:35:08.20
Yeah.
00:35:08.24\00:35:09.57
So some places, you know,
00:35:09.60\00:35:10.94
planes need to be
put in containers,
00:35:10.97\00:35:12.31
maybe if we're going
to the South Pacific.
00:35:12.34\00:35:13.68
How many times
do you have to stop?
00:35:13.71\00:35:15.04
Do you have an idea?
Oh, that's a good question.
00:35:15.08\00:35:17.35
We'll say four or rough
out four maybe, maybe more.
00:35:17.38\00:35:20.82
About six-hour flight range.
It's six hours supplements.
00:35:20.85\00:35:24.92
With the tanks it has,
withour exhilarated tanks
00:35:24.95\00:35:26.72
it's more like four
hours probably safely.
00:35:26.76\00:35:29.72
And your wife joins
you in humanitarian role.
00:35:29.76\00:35:33.09
You do
humanitarian work with AWA?
00:35:33.13\00:35:35.96
She wears a lot of hats. Yeah.
00:35:36.00\00:35:38.10
I do a lot of
the house whenever.
00:35:38.13\00:35:41.17
Well, when I was in Nicaragua
there they speak Spanish.
00:35:41.20\00:35:44.64
So they'll come and
I'll see what they need.
00:35:44.67\00:35:47.94
How can we help them?
00:35:47.98\00:35:50.18
And, yeah, take
care of whatever else
00:35:50.21\00:35:52.61
is needed to be taken.
00:35:52.65\00:35:54.05
She's a cook and a
mother, a translator, hostess.
00:35:54.08\00:35:58.99
Yeah. A lot of different things.
00:35:59.02\00:36:00.62
There was one thing
00:36:00.66\00:36:02.19
I said every
person that comes here.
00:36:02.22\00:36:04.39
At least I wanna give
them a good cup of water,
00:36:04.43\00:36:07.06
'cause sometimes
they don't drink water
00:36:07.10\00:36:09.30
and they have like a headache
00:36:09.33\00:36:10.90
and we just tell
them, have you drink water?
00:36:10.93\00:36:13.44
And they're like, oh no.
00:36:13.47\00:36:15.00
So everyone that came,
00:36:15.04\00:36:16.60
I was like, would
you like some water?
00:36:16.64\00:36:18.47
Oh, you know, I think yes. Aqua.
00:36:18.51\00:36:21.14
Aqua, yeah.
00:36:21.18\00:36:22.91
Refrigerator with
some, where can you
00:36:22.94\00:36:24.28
throw a couple of ice
cubes in there if they want it.
00:36:24.31\00:36:25.65
Yeah. They enjoy that.
00:36:25.68\00:36:27.02
It's filtered, comes out
of the well, you know, so.
00:36:27.05\00:36:29.48
They're happy to
receive a nice cold glass.
00:36:29.52\00:36:31.02
Amen. Now, Bruce, how was it...
00:36:31.05\00:36:33.05
How were these funded, how
were these projects funded?
00:36:33.09\00:36:35.72
Well, we're self-supporting
ministry independent ministry
00:36:35.76\00:36:38.26
and we have to,
00:36:38.29\00:36:39.63
100% of our funds are
raised by missionaries
00:36:39.66\00:36:42.56
and through donations,
00:36:42.60\00:36:44.50
through charitable
giving whether it's churches,
00:36:44.53\00:36:47.00
whether it's individuals
00:36:47.04\00:36:48.40
or even
companies have contribute
00:36:48.44\00:36:50.91
to Adventist World Aviation.
00:36:50.94\00:36:52.57
So the missionaries, as
part of their calling, see,
00:36:52.61\00:36:56.04
we have people sometimes ask us,
00:36:56.08\00:36:57.65
we have pilots and
mechanics calls us.
00:36:57.68\00:36:59.18
Do you have any jobs available?
00:36:59.21\00:37:00.85
'Cause I'm an
Adventist and I want a job.
00:37:00.88\00:37:02.85
Well, we have very few jobs.
00:37:02.88\00:37:05.55
We have lots of
opportunities for callings.
00:37:05.59\00:37:08.29
If you're being called to serve,
00:37:08.32\00:37:10.26
if you're being
called, we need you.
00:37:10.29\00:37:12.66
There you go.
00:37:12.69\00:37:14.03
So if you're a pilot mechanic
00:37:14.06\00:37:15.96
or if you feel God's calling you
00:37:16.00\00:37:17.40
to serve in a
foreign mission field,
00:37:17.43\00:37:19.23
we have opportunities available.
00:37:19.27\00:37:21.24
Please reach out and contact us
00:37:21.27\00:37:22.70
because we want
people that are called.
00:37:22.74\00:37:25.51
'cause when you're called,
00:37:25.54\00:37:26.88
but God calls, He
enables and we just heard...
00:37:26.91\00:37:29.54
Provides. Provides, right.
00:37:29.58\00:37:31.35
We heard how He provided
00:37:31.38\00:37:32.78
for Josh in many
of his situations.
00:37:32.81\00:37:35.22
And He provides
for every single person
00:37:35.25\00:37:37.19
He calls to service.
00:37:37.22\00:37:38.85
If people feel they've being
00:37:38.89\00:37:40.22
called to service through
Adventist World Aviation,
00:37:40.26\00:37:41.96
to serve abroad,
we are interested.
00:37:41.99\00:37:44.89
Wow. How many
people on your staff?
00:37:44.93\00:37:46.90
Very few...
00:37:46.93\00:37:48.26
As far as on the staff,
00:37:48.30\00:37:49.86
we have a total of seven people.
00:37:49.90\00:37:51.53
Just seven. Seven.
00:37:51.57\00:37:52.90
But we have a lot of
host country nationals,
00:37:52.93\00:37:55.87
whether it's in Guyana,
Nicaragua, or the Philippines.
00:37:55.90\00:37:58.01
Oh, yes.
00:37:58.04\00:37:59.37
Or, and some
people in Alaska too,
00:37:59.41\00:38:01.88
that help us in a
volunteer capacity.
00:38:01.91\00:38:04.75
And so then we
have another probably
00:38:04.78\00:38:06.95
eight or ten people that
help us in that capacity.
00:38:06.98\00:38:09.82
And we have lots of
volunteers in the United States
00:38:09.85\00:38:11.85
who help us in a
part-time capacity as well.
00:38:11.89\00:38:14.56
So that's how you're
funded by the people,right?
00:38:14.59\00:38:17.46
By God, through inspired people
00:38:17.49\00:38:19.43
to support the work
00:38:19.46\00:38:20.80
'cause we believe if you're,
00:38:20.83\00:38:22.16
God's calling a support team
and this is what Josh and Yosi,
00:38:22.20\00:38:25.47
their road to the mission field
00:38:25.50\00:38:27.30
from here forward is
to grow a support team,
00:38:27.34\00:38:30.01
a prayer team.
00:38:30.04\00:38:31.37
People they can pray for them,
00:38:31.41\00:38:32.74
people they want to
support them financially
00:38:32.77\00:38:34.41
and other means to get
them to the mission field
00:38:34.44\00:38:37.18
where God is
calling them to work.
00:38:37.21\00:38:38.75
And the support team is a
vital part of all the work
00:38:38.78\00:38:41.08
we do because they
get behind the work.
00:38:41.12\00:38:44.09
And, you know,
00:38:44.12\00:38:45.45
as far as doing the
work in the actual field,
00:38:45.49\00:38:47.39
it's going to be Josh and Yosi.
00:38:47.42\00:38:48.76
But the people back here
00:38:48.79\00:38:50.13
when they pray for
them and get behind them.
00:38:50.16\00:38:51.49
Yes.
00:38:51.53\00:38:52.86
It makes a big difference
'cause often when we spend time
00:38:52.89\00:38:54.33
in the Philippines,
when we spent time in Guyana,
00:38:54.36\00:38:57.00
we are constantly in
contact with our support team.
00:38:57.03\00:38:58.80
Wow.
00:38:58.83\00:39:00.17
And we have a
difficult situation.
00:39:00.20\00:39:01.90
We need to have prayed for.
00:39:01.94\00:39:03.37
We need support
for, people will donate.
00:39:03.41\00:39:06.17
Like we find out a
lady needs something,
00:39:06.21\00:39:08.68
an item, a generator.
00:39:08.71\00:39:10.35
And we have people
who are very benevolent,
00:39:10.38\00:39:13.62
very giving
00:39:13.65\00:39:14.98
and they will
donate a generator,
00:39:15.02\00:39:16.35
ship it over, or
they'll donate funds.
00:39:16.38\00:39:17.99
So we can purchase one
locally or food for people that
00:39:18.02\00:39:21.59
we've had some tribal people
00:39:21.62\00:39:23.19
that came across the
border from Venezuela to Guyana
00:39:23.22\00:39:25.56
that we had to help out.
00:39:25.59\00:39:26.93
But people donated the resources
00:39:26.96\00:39:28.30
to provide for the ministry.
00:39:28.33\00:39:29.93
Now, do you need doctors or
nurses on the mission field?
00:39:29.96\00:39:33.37
Well, one of our future...
00:39:33.40\00:39:36.40
One of your future guest
here, he's a chiropractor
00:39:36.44\00:39:39.71
and we don't
have a specific need
00:39:39.74\00:39:41.68
for a position that
says doctor or nurses,
00:39:41.71\00:39:44.31
but those skills
that God enables you with,
00:39:44.35\00:39:46.82
He can use for His work.
00:39:46.85\00:39:48.85
I believe in my heart
that He calls people with,
00:39:48.88\00:39:52.15
He enables them
with gifts and talents,
00:39:52.19\00:39:54.16
but He also gives them,
00:39:54.19\00:39:55.66
He takes the gifts and
resources that you have,
00:39:55.69\00:39:57.99
and He will multiply
them in the mission field
00:39:58.03\00:40:00.50
He's calling you to serve Him.
00:40:00.53\00:40:01.86
Yes. Well, I'm gonna ask.
00:40:01.90\00:40:03.50
Yeah, I'll tell you, I'm
gonna ask Josh a question
00:40:03.53\00:40:05.03
'cause I love that.
00:40:05.07\00:40:06.50
This is amazing to see
how long this has been around.
00:40:06.53\00:40:08.84
How many years again?
00:40:08.87\00:40:10.21
1995. 1995.
00:40:10.24\00:40:11.97
It's beautiful. I
mean, I don't know.
00:40:12.01\00:40:15.54
I might, I don't
know, honey, maybe I just,
00:40:15.58\00:40:17.08
if the Lord provides
an opportunity to fly.
00:40:17.11\00:40:19.31
My friend Doug. He's
always wanted to fly.
00:40:19.35\00:40:20.75
We can use you.
00:40:20.78\00:40:22.12
My friend Doug Batchelor
says, he says you could probably
00:40:22.15\00:40:24.39
pass this test
really easily, anyway but...
00:40:24.42\00:40:26.65
I hope your
flight is simulative.
00:40:26.69\00:40:28.42
I mean, I'm not gonna
boast about knowing all that,
00:40:28.46\00:40:31.63
but a lot of it
is the terminologies
00:40:31.66\00:40:33.19
and understanding
what these things mean,
00:40:33.23\00:40:34.70
but it's quite a different story
00:40:34.73\00:40:36.06
when you go from a
computer to a actual plane.
00:40:36.10\00:40:37.43
Exactly.
00:40:37.47\00:40:38.80
Because hey, you know,
it's a little windy up here.
00:40:38.83\00:40:42.47
You have some video.
00:40:42.50\00:40:43.84
I want to just, you know,
00:40:43.87\00:40:45.21
you can't press the button pause
00:40:45.24\00:40:46.57
and wipe your
forehead, you keep going.
00:40:46.61\00:40:48.28
You have some video
of you flying there.
00:40:48.31\00:40:49.88
I'm pretty
interested in that. Yeah.
00:40:49.91\00:40:51.58
Yeah. Here's a...
00:40:51.61\00:40:53.05
This is after I
dropped this lady off
00:40:53.08\00:40:54.95
of the angel flight
flying through some clouds.
00:40:54.98\00:40:57.19
Yeah. I had a lot of storms.
00:40:57.22\00:40:59.19
I was flying
through getting out there to
00:40:59.22\00:41:00.99
where I dropped her off.
00:41:01.02\00:41:02.69
And then coming
back, I had a lot as well,
00:41:02.72\00:41:05.36
a big line of storms
00:41:05.39\00:41:06.83
and I talked to the
ATC air traffic controller
00:41:06.86\00:41:10.37
and I was like,
is there a way that
00:41:10.40\00:41:11.73
you can get me
around these storms?
00:41:11.77\00:41:13.57
And he was like, well,
00:41:13.60\00:41:14.97
I don't really see
anything if you're asking me.
00:41:15.00\00:41:18.21
In other words, great, navigate
around the best you can.
00:41:18.24\00:41:21.14
Yeah, yes, I'm looking at a feed
00:41:21.18\00:41:23.04
of the weather on my iPad there.
00:41:23.08\00:41:26.08
And I saw an
airport that was just right
00:41:26.11\00:41:28.82
where the
precipitation was starting.
00:41:28.85\00:41:30.32
I was coming up
behind the storms,
00:41:30.35\00:41:31.69
so I went down.
00:41:31.72\00:41:33.15
I was going to
land at that airport
00:41:33.19\00:41:34.52
and just kind of reevaluate.
00:41:34.56\00:41:35.99
So I flew over the
airport just under the clouds.
00:41:36.02\00:41:40.13
And then I started seeing
it opened up to the south.
00:41:40.16\00:41:43.00
So I went to the south
as it was kind of opening up
00:41:43.03\00:41:45.77
and I started climbing.
00:41:45.80\00:41:47.14
I said, well, it's
opening enough here.
00:41:47.17\00:41:48.80
So at the story of my life,
00:41:48.84\00:41:50.54
you know, that
God opened the door
00:41:50.57\00:41:52.47
and the
precipitation was lighter.
00:41:52.51\00:41:53.98
I went between a couple layers.
00:41:54.01\00:41:55.34
I got back on the,
00:41:55.38\00:41:56.71
on my flight plan
with air traffic control
00:41:56.75\00:41:58.11
and continued on my way.
00:41:58.15\00:41:59.91
But as the video kind
of illustrates, you know,
00:41:59.95\00:42:01.85
sometimes we don't know
00:42:01.88\00:42:03.22
when the next hole
is gonna to happen,
00:42:03.25\00:42:05.12
where you see some blue sky.
00:42:05.15\00:42:06.82
But we just had to go forward
with instruments, you know,
00:42:06.86\00:42:08.89
knowing that God
was leading us thus far
00:42:08.92\00:42:10.33
and to continue
to how we were going.
00:42:10.36\00:42:12.33
And then the blue skies happened
00:42:12.36\00:42:13.86
and smooth there after that.
00:42:13.90\00:42:16.16
So that was, I feel
great. Yes, that's beautiful.
00:42:16.20\00:42:19.17
Your website, I went on there
and it's what I like is it says
00:42:19.20\00:42:24.54
building bridges
for saving lives.
00:42:24.57\00:42:27.18
Amen. I love that.
00:42:27.21\00:42:28.64
And then also what
I like is you go...
00:42:28.68\00:42:30.91
You boldly go
where no missionary
00:42:30.95\00:42:34.15
has gone before.
00:42:34.18\00:42:35.72
I mean, you see the jungles.
00:42:35.75\00:42:37.29
I looked on that
video on I'm looking,
00:42:37.32\00:42:39.35
wow, look at those.
00:42:39.39\00:42:42.19
What do you call that?
00:42:42.22\00:42:43.56
The runways that
you have to land on.
00:42:43.59\00:42:46.59
Some of them are
pretty bumpy, huh?
00:42:46.63\00:42:48.53
Yeah.
00:42:48.56\00:42:49.90
We try to be as, as ready for
00:42:49.93\00:42:52.20
whatever we might
experience when we go there.
00:42:52.23\00:42:54.37
And we have
planes that are outfitted
00:42:54.40\00:42:55.74
to experience
those kinds of things
00:42:55.77\00:42:57.21
without falling apart.
00:42:57.24\00:42:58.87
But I had the advantage
00:42:58.91\00:43:00.41
of where I did
my flight training,
00:43:00.44\00:43:01.94
where I'm from, well,
00:43:01.98\00:43:03.31
there's a number
of grass airstrips
00:43:03.35\00:43:04.68
I was able to practice on.
00:43:04.71\00:43:06.05
I think some of
them were shut down now,
00:43:06.08\00:43:07.42
but they were on
different grades and whatnot.
00:43:07.45\00:43:08.98
Some of them were
on a hill basically.
00:43:09.02\00:43:12.45
Landing up hill?
00:43:12.49\00:43:13.82
Yeah, landing up
hill, taking off,
00:43:13.86\00:43:15.19
going downhill, you turn around
and go down the other way.
00:43:15.22\00:43:17.13
So we had that advantage
00:43:17.16\00:43:18.79
of being able to
practice a little bit,
00:43:18.83\00:43:21.00
but airplanes
can go in some places
00:43:21.03\00:43:22.76
where you might
not think possible.
00:43:22.80\00:43:24.30
Now you also fly
supplies to villages.
00:43:24.33\00:43:27.10
Talk about some
of those experiences.
00:43:27.14\00:43:28.47
Yeah.
00:43:28.50\00:43:29.84
So basically aviation,
our main tool is medivacs,
00:43:29.87\00:43:33.21
but we're really trying
to meet people's needs where,
00:43:33.24\00:43:35.24
wherever and
whatever they may be.
00:43:35.28\00:43:37.05
So if that is, you know,
00:43:37.08\00:43:38.68
that's developed
transporting some food,
00:43:38.71\00:43:41.22
that's transporting
gospel workers and pastors.
00:43:41.25\00:43:43.75
Antivenom.
00:43:43.79\00:43:45.12
Antivenom is another example
00:43:45.15\00:43:46.49
that was done down
there in Nicaragua.
00:43:46.52\00:43:48.32
And there was a boy in
one of these remote villages
00:43:48.36\00:43:50.26
who got bit by fer-de-lance,
00:43:50.29\00:43:52.46
a very venomous
viper, viper down there.
00:43:52.49\00:43:56.06
And the missionary
that was down there was,
00:43:56.10\00:43:59.30
I was at ends of what to do.
00:43:59.33\00:44:01.67
And because it wasn't a
runway that was open for him,
00:44:01.70\00:44:05.31
they had a
runway at the village,
00:44:05.34\00:44:06.68
but it wasn't open.
00:44:06.71\00:44:08.04
So what he did was
he took the antivenom
00:44:08.08\00:44:09.81
and he wrapped
it in some cushions
00:44:09.84\00:44:11.58
and he flew low and slow
00:44:11.61\00:44:12.95
over this runway
and booted it out.
00:44:12.98\00:44:14.98
And they were able to get those
00:44:15.02\00:44:16.35
and had enough antivenom vials
that survived to help the boy.
00:44:16.38\00:44:18.82
Wow.
00:44:18.85\00:44:20.19
And the government
approved the entrance
00:44:20.22\00:44:22.02
on the airstrip the next day
00:44:22.06\00:44:24.06
he was able to do
carry the kid out of there.
00:44:24.09\00:44:27.33
That's another
thing in Nicaragua.
00:44:27.36\00:44:28.76
We have to, of
course, everywhere,
00:44:28.80\00:44:30.13
you have to have permission
before you take off a flight.
00:44:30.17\00:44:31.77
That's right.
00:44:31.80\00:44:33.13
And there, they have,
00:44:33.17\00:44:34.60
they also have to
coordinate with the army.
00:44:34.64\00:44:36.94
They bring out armed soldiers
00:44:36.97\00:44:39.14
and are
surrounding in the airfield.
00:44:39.17\00:44:41.14
So they're looking
for nefarious individuals
00:44:41.18\00:44:44.48
that may not
have good intentions,
00:44:44.51\00:44:47.32
like drug traffickers,
contraband, et cetera.
00:44:47.35\00:44:49.95
It's all part of that
code over drug motions
00:44:49.98\00:44:51.55
in South America
to North America.
00:44:51.59\00:44:53.56
If I heard you correctly,
he didn't really land.
00:44:53.59\00:44:55.22
He just flew a few knots
00:44:55.26\00:44:56.59
above stall just to
give the things out.
00:44:56.62\00:44:58.96
Yeah.
00:44:58.99\00:45:01.03
A lot different ways
to use a tool of aviation.
00:45:01.06\00:45:03.53
You know, there's
a reason we're there.
00:45:03.57\00:45:04.90
There's just that infrastructure
00:45:04.93\00:45:06.53
that people rely upon over here.
00:45:06.57\00:45:08.80
Where I try to explain to people
00:45:08.84\00:45:10.17
in North America is we liked
00:45:10.21\00:45:11.54
the thought of
having a helicopter
00:45:11.57\00:45:12.91
within a short
distance to take us
00:45:12.94\00:45:14.54
to a hospital in a
hurry if we need to.
00:45:14.58\00:45:16.85
But over there,
they just don't have
00:45:16.88\00:45:18.21
the infrastructure
where that's in place.
00:45:18.25\00:45:20.08
So we're there with airplanes
00:45:20.12\00:45:22.32
and basically
provide the same service
00:45:22.35\00:45:24.25
that we enjoy over here
getting us around traffic.
00:45:24.29\00:45:26.42
And around here,
it's pretty flat,
00:45:26.45\00:45:28.62
but in Kentucky,
there's a lot of hills
00:45:28.66\00:45:29.99
that can really slow you down.
00:45:30.03\00:45:31.36
Yeah.
00:45:31.39\00:45:32.73
Over there, you
either don't have a road
00:45:32.76\00:45:34.10
or maybe they have
the road in the hills.
00:45:34.13\00:45:35.76
So it provides a way for them
00:45:35.80\00:45:37.20
to get the
hospital in timely manner.
00:45:37.23\00:45:38.87
And with medical
is a golden hour.
00:45:38.90\00:45:41.14
So when somebody is
in an emergent condition,
00:45:41.17\00:45:43.41
if you can get
them to life-saving care
00:45:43.44\00:45:44.77
within an hour,
00:45:44.81\00:45:46.14
you have a great
chance of them surviving.
00:45:46.17\00:45:47.64
So we tried to make that
00:45:47.68\00:45:49.11
as our goal is
to try to get them
00:45:49.14\00:45:51.48
within one hour to
definitive medical care.
00:45:51.51\00:45:53.78
So you've saved
many lives? Yes, we have.
00:45:53.82\00:45:56.85
Yeah, Adventist World Aviation
00:45:56.89\00:45:58.22
has helped save many lives
in the countries that we serve.
00:45:58.25\00:45:59.62
Praise God.
00:45:59.65\00:46:00.99
And the average cost of
a flight is about how much?
00:46:01.02\00:46:03.06
It's about $350. Okay.
00:46:03.09\00:46:04.96
For fuel burning,
if you're going to,
00:46:04.99\00:46:06.33
it depends on
distance and everything else.
00:46:06.36\00:46:07.70
But if you're looking at
an average, it's about $350.
00:46:07.73\00:46:10.10
Now, before our
program winds up,
00:46:10.13\00:46:11.47
talk about some of the projects
you have and some of the things
00:46:11.50\00:46:13.37
that are ahead of
you that the viewers
00:46:13.40\00:46:17.14
and listeners of this
program could participate in.
00:46:17.17\00:46:18.97
Yeah.
00:46:19.01\00:46:20.34
Because AWR is, as
you said, support AWA.
00:46:20.38\00:46:23.78
Did I just say AWR? Yeah.
00:46:23.81\00:46:25.25
I don't know.
00:46:25.28\00:46:26.61
My wife works for radio,
but AWA, just to be exact.
00:46:26.65\00:46:31.85
Talk about some
of these projects
00:46:31.89\00:46:33.32
that the audience
could participate in.
00:46:33.36\00:46:35.52
Well, if there's anybody
00:46:35.56\00:46:37.33
that feels call to
serve, of course we need people.
00:46:37.36\00:46:39.53
But also the projects
00:46:39.56\00:46:40.90
that we have to
support as Josh and Yosi Fix.
00:46:40.93\00:46:43.33
They are trying to raise
00:46:43.37\00:46:44.90
a support team
to go to Nicaragua.
00:46:44.93\00:46:47.97
And to do that,
00:46:48.00\00:46:49.34
they can't get there
unless they have the supporters
00:46:49.37\00:46:51.17
to help them.
00:46:51.21\00:46:52.77
And to do that, means
people that are willing to pray,
00:46:52.81\00:46:54.68
be a prayer partner,
financially support them
00:46:54.71\00:46:57.21
for our project in Nicaragua.
00:46:57.25\00:46:59.55
So we can make a
difference in people's lives
00:46:59.58\00:47:01.58
and lead them to a
relationship with Jesus Christ.
00:47:01.62\00:47:03.99
And that's the ultimate
goal in every project we have.
00:47:04.02\00:47:06.15
We have Alaska
where Jim Kincaid,
00:47:06.19\00:47:07.99
Pastor Kincaid
operates up there.
00:47:08.02\00:47:10.03
He needs support to help
the Native Americans there.
00:47:10.06\00:47:12.76
We have project in Guyana
00:47:12.79\00:47:14.26
where we have the
Rene family heading
00:47:14.30\00:47:16.36
to in a couple months
and they will be needing
00:47:16.40\00:47:20.00
the same kind of
support to go there.
00:47:20.04\00:47:21.67
We can't do any operation
without a support team.
00:47:21.70\00:47:25.37
What do you think your future
is as you look down the road,
00:47:25.41\00:47:28.28
because you talked
about when you were given the,
00:47:28.31\00:47:30.85
you anticipating a month
00:47:30.88\00:47:32.21
and it turned into three months.
00:47:32.25\00:47:33.68
What kind of preparation
do you feel is ahead of you
00:47:33.72\00:47:35.88
to get ready for
the Nicaragua projects?
00:47:35.92\00:47:38.99
Yeah.
00:47:39.02\00:47:40.36
Most of our preparation
has already been done.
00:47:40.39\00:47:42.39
You know, fully licensed
00:47:42.42\00:47:43.76
as far as a pilot mechanic goes,
00:47:43.79\00:47:45.13
or we have some
training we're doing
00:47:45.16\00:47:46.49
with the General Conference
of Seventh-day Adventist
00:47:46.53\00:47:48.06
to prepare us a little
intercultural training,
00:47:48.10\00:47:50.60
which we're working
through, which is a great asset.
00:47:50.63\00:47:54.77
Besides that not a
whole lot stands between us
00:47:54.80\00:47:57.61
and in Nicaragua
and getting there.
00:47:57.64\00:47:59.27
Wow.
00:47:59.31\00:48:00.64
Truly mission missionaries,
you know, like you,
00:48:00.68\00:48:03.98
we have in our church,
we have a missionary couple
00:48:04.01\00:48:07.25
that we help, our whole church.
00:48:07.28\00:48:08.68
Yeah.
00:48:08.72\00:48:10.05
Because once you leave America,
once you leave the mainland,
00:48:10.09\00:48:12.12
I could say, you get away
from a lot of the conveniences
00:48:12.15\00:48:15.92
that are maybe
just a short drive away.
00:48:15.96\00:48:18.29
And you go into an area
00:48:18.33\00:48:19.66
where high-speed
internet, what's that?
00:48:19.69\00:48:24.40
No.
00:48:24.43\00:48:25.77
A lot of self-reliance
has to be practiced.
00:48:25.80\00:48:27.14
I mean, we learned a lot
of that down in Nicaragua.
00:48:27.17\00:48:28.80
A lot of food has to
be cooked from scratch.
00:48:28.84\00:48:30.51
You know, some
things we can't have.
00:48:30.54\00:48:32.77
One of my favorite
foods is haystacks, you know?
00:48:32.81\00:48:34.98
Oh, no. Okay.
00:48:35.01\00:48:37.71
We made it happen
maybe like one time, I think.
00:48:37.75\00:48:40.35
Amazingly, we had a hard
time finding lettuce, right?
00:48:40.38\00:48:42.88
We always do.
00:48:42.92\00:48:44.25
In South America,
lettuce is not prevalent.
00:48:44.29\00:48:45.69
Yeah.
00:48:45.72\00:48:47.06
Even Guyana, Philippines,
this is not prevalent there.
00:48:47.09\00:48:49.32
It's hard to find it.
00:48:49.36\00:48:50.69
It's a common
staple around here,
00:48:50.73\00:48:52.36
but we found one
guy, who sold some.
00:48:52.39\00:48:54.20
Yeah.
00:48:54.23\00:48:55.56
But, you know,
instead of getting bread,
00:48:55.60\00:48:57.10
you know, like we
would at a supermarket here,
00:48:57.13\00:48:59.23
Yosi was making the
bread, like she in the picture.
00:48:59.27\00:49:02.17
We had a lot of beans and
rice and different things,
00:49:02.20\00:49:04.87
learning the
recipes of the local area,
00:49:04.91\00:49:07.01
what's at hand.
00:49:07.04\00:49:09.34
So flexibility is
a big characteristic
00:49:09.38\00:49:10.88
of missionaries.
00:49:10.91\00:49:12.25
You have to be flexible
time, situations adaptable.
00:49:12.28\00:49:15.98
So like Gumby, if you
remember the old Gumby.
00:49:16.02\00:49:18.55
Yeah. Gumby.
00:49:18.59\00:49:20.16
So if you're flexible,
like Gumby and you can bend
00:49:20.19\00:49:22.62
and turn and
adjust without breaking,
00:49:22.66\00:49:25.16
that's really the
recipe, you know, for success,
00:49:25.19\00:49:28.26
of course being
one with God being,
00:49:28.30\00:49:30.53
keeping your eyes on
Christ and being flexible,
00:49:30.57\00:49:33.54
because be willing to be
00:49:33.57\00:49:35.27
interrupted throughout your day.
00:49:35.30\00:49:37.14
You have plans
like Josh talked about
00:49:37.17\00:49:38.87
and then being interrupted
00:49:38.91\00:49:40.24
'cause God places
people in your path.
00:49:40.28\00:49:41.61
That's a pastor's life.
00:49:41.64\00:49:42.98
The whole two
things are planned.
00:49:43.01\00:49:45.11
One of the prime examples,
00:49:45.15\00:49:46.48
I think to give biblically
is the good Samaritan,
00:49:46.51\00:49:48.92
willing to be interrupted.
00:49:48.95\00:49:50.29
Amen.
00:49:50.32\00:49:51.65
You know, and to help
somebody that's in need.
00:49:51.69\00:49:53.02
And that's the gospel
00:49:53.05\00:49:54.39
with some legs on it, basically.
00:49:54.42\00:49:55.76
That's right.
00:49:55.79\00:49:57.13
It's easy to
talk about, you know,
00:49:57.16\00:49:58.49
doctrines and everything.
00:49:58.53\00:49:59.86
And those are very
important, but you know,
00:49:59.89\00:50:01.23
it's a different
legs in the gospel.
00:50:01.26\00:50:02.60
And put in
selfless love into practice
00:50:02.63\00:50:05.10
is where it
really meets the road.
00:50:05.13\00:50:06.77
Now, what about your boys?
00:50:06.80\00:50:08.27
How do they adjust to
this missionary lifestyle?
00:50:08.30\00:50:13.07
Well, they seem to like it,
00:50:13.11\00:50:14.44
especially 'cause
they can play out there.
00:50:14.48\00:50:16.85
The base is set
in a country side.
00:50:16.88\00:50:20.98
And it's very
private, a lot of trees.
00:50:21.02\00:50:23.52
So they like that
they can just play outside.
00:50:23.55\00:50:26.62
Do they speak Spanish?
00:50:26.65\00:50:28.42
They're
learning. They're learning.
00:50:28.46\00:50:29.79
They need to learn somewhat.
00:50:29.82\00:50:31.16
In Nicaragua they
might learn Miskito.
00:50:31.19\00:50:32.76
Yeah, that too.
00:50:32.79\00:50:34.26
We have a day labor
there that is a local
00:50:34.30\00:50:36.73
and speaks Miskito
and Spanish as well.
00:50:36.77\00:50:38.87
So he might be teaching them.
00:50:38.90\00:50:40.24
They really like
playing with him,
00:50:40.27\00:50:41.90
but the other boys had
some different experiences
00:50:41.94\00:50:44.37
that really like,
they like riding around
00:50:44.41\00:50:46.01
on the motorcycle with me.
00:50:46.04\00:50:47.94
They didn't miss their bicycles.
00:50:47.98\00:50:49.44
They didn't bring
their bicycles obviously.
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So we'll have to find them
some bicycles to play on there.
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Wow.
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But you do have Bible
studies and you have baptisms.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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So we support the
local church very strongly.
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There's a small church in
the local community there.
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Not too far down the way,
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there's a like a layman training
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kind of center for
the local laypeople.
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And so we've helped them
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for sure get to
where they need to be.
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Help them build some
churches and whatnot.
00:51:15.70\00:51:17.17
Yes.
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Every country that we
work in, we work closely
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with the local
conference and pastors.
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We believe in
working alongside them
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and helping them
with their mission
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to serve the people.
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Amen. Beautiful.
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And I want to make
sure that our audience,
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our viewing
audience has the information
00:51:30.75\00:51:32.52
that you would need to be
able to get in touch with AWA.
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And then on the other
side of the news break,
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we'll be back for a
few closing thoughts.
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Yes.
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If you would like to
contact or know more about
00:51:43.10\00:51:45.13
Adventist World Aviation,
00:51:45.17\00:51:46.97
you can write to them
at 3457, Swift Creek Road,
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Corp-3, Smithfield,
North Carolina 27577.
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You can call them
at (919) 938-2920.
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You can also visit
their website at flyaway.org
00:52:03.15\00:52:08.69
That's flyaway.org
00:52:08.72\00:52:13.40
You can also email
them at info@flyawa.org
00:52:13.43\00:52:18.53
That's info@flyawa.org
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