As you're well aware,
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we're living in
unprecedented times.
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Join us now for
Today special program.
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Removing pain
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Lord, let my words
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Heal a heart that hurts
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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Hello, I'm Jill Morikone,
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and just want to welcome you
to another 3ABN Today program.
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I love these programs
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because we get to share with you
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what God is doing in
and through ministries
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around the world.
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Today's program is very
near and dear to my heart.
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We're talking about
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children's
ministry for everyone.
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So whether you
are a young person,
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this program is for you.
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If you are a
teenager, or 20 something or 30,
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and maybe you
have young children,
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this program is for you.
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And if you're a grandparent,
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certainly this
program is for you.
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I think about Jesus,
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remember when He
walked this earth
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and the disciples were with Him,
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and they were occupied
keeping the important people
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who they thought
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were the important
people close to Jesus,
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and they pushed
aside the little children.
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And what did Jesus say?
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Let the little
children come unto me,
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for of them of such
is the kingdom of heaven.
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Jesus loved children.
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Here at 3ABN we love children,
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and we love children's ministry.
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And I have with me today,
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three of the most
incredible godly women
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that I've ever met.
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They're all involved
in children's ministry,
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not only in their
own lives individually,
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but here at the
Ministry of 3ABN.
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We want to talk
about their journeys
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and their vision
for children's ministry.
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And we're gonna get some stories
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in there too, I think,
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so I want to introduce our
family to you at this time.
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To my right Cinda
Sanner, Miss Cinda, of course,
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producer and
co-host of Tiny Tots
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and you've been on I don't know
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how many programs on
3ABN through the years.
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We're so glad you're here.
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Thank you so much.
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Actually, we've been on 3ABN
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since almost the
time they started 3ABN.
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We used to come and
sing with my sisters
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when my dad had a sermon series
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called I think
Walking with the Master.
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And so we, my
sisters and I sang.
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So we've been on there.
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And then we
actually became involved in,
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actually creating
children's ministries programs
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for 3ABN way back in 2000.
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Wow. Has it been that long?
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Yes.
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But I'm not that old.
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That's right.
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You started when you
were maybe five or six.
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Exactly.
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And we have Francine Bergmann,
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who's Aunt
Francine to us here at 3ABN,
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of course, Aunt Francine
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is the Kids
Network General Manager
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and doing an amazing job.
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And, Aunt Francine,
we're just so glad you're here.
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I'm delighted to be here.
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I'm always amazed
and how God provides
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and sends the Holy Spirit
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before we can even
work and do anything.
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It's about His business, so.
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I appreciate seeing the lives
change in the young hearts.
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Amen. Absolutely.
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And I know I said
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I have three incredible
women here at the table
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and you might say,
but I only saw two.
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That's because we have
one joining us via Skype.
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This is Auntie Linda.
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This is Linda Johnson
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who has been hosting programs
for Tiny Tots for many years.
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Hi, Auntie Linda, now
you're up in Michigan.
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Tell us what you're
doing up in Michigan?
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I am the dean at Great
Lake Adventist Academy.
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And it's a wonderful ministry.
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It doesn't
matter if they're little
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or they're a little
bigger, kids are kids.
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They still need
to be to be loved.
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They still need
to be listened to.
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And they still
need some extra love
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when they have
little fits and things.
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I love that, and you
know what I was just thinking,
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I might have some
little fits sometimes too.
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And so, we might
not always outgrow that,
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we all need Jesus.
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We know we all need
His transforming grace.
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So we're going
to be sharing today
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with each one of these ladies
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about how they became
involved in children's ministry
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and the importance
of children's ministry.
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Why is it important?
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How you can become involved
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and how you can partner
with the Ministry of 3ABN
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in children's ministry?
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But first, we're
gonna go to a song.
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This is Martha Jhoana De Luna,
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and she's an incredible harpist,
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and this song is
perfect for this program.
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It's little David
play on your harp.
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Thank you so much, Martha.
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She's an
incredible pianist and harpist
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and I love that song
little David play on your harp.
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If you're just joining us,
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we're talking about
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children's
ministry for everyone,
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specifically
exploring the journeys
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of three women here
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and their experience
with the Ministry of 3ABN
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with children's ministry
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and how you at home
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can become involved
in children's ministry.
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We have Miss
Cinda, from Tiny Tots.
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And we're just so
glad to have you here.
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We have your
sister Auntie Linda,
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and she's joining us via Skype.
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And we also have Aunt Francine,
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who is the general
manager of 3ABN Kids Network.
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So just delighted to
have all three of you here
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and I want to start,
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Auntie Linda, Miss Cinda,
we'll start with you, ladies.
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Talk to us about how
you first became involved
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in children's
ministry here at 3ABN.
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And what were
some of those programs
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that you were involved in?
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Okay.
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Sis, if jump in
there and join me,
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you know,
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feel free to correct me
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if I say
something that you know,
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or you want to add something,
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but back in 2000...
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Well, actually I'll go
way back to when I was five.
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We grew up with Danny
Shelton and the Shelton family
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because my grandma lives
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not far from here
in Stiritz, Illinois.
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And so we did, we did
a lot as kids together.
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And so we...
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And our family did a lot
and my parents loved kids.
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And so they were
always doing inviting kids
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to do things with us.
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And so the Sheltons have a lot,
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I mean, the different,
the different uncles and aunts
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and the cousins
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and Mom and Dad
would invite them all.
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And let's go on an outing
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and we invite kids
and they loved kids.
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Well, when we got started,
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like I had mentioned
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with singing for Dad's series
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when He was doing
Walkman with the Master.
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Back in it, we did
that for several years
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and then in 2000
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administration
came to us and said,
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you know, we don't really have
an active children's ministries
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for or actual
programs for children.
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So would you girls be willing
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to create some
programs for children?
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'Cause we would...
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As you said,
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3ABN loves children
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and we feel a need to
have programs for children.
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And so we got together
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and started
creating some programs.
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And as Francine said,
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God always provides
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and right when you like, oh,
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what are we going to do?
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An idea would come up,
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and that is the
Holy Spirit, that is God.
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And so we can't say we did it.
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It was really, we
prayed all the time through it
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like, I mean, down to
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what kind of
programs, what type of programs,
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what we wanted to teach
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and we prayed about
it and prayed about it.
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And it was the Holy
Spirit that and God,
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these programs
were not created by us.
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They were created by God.
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Because everything
from the set design
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to like I said the,
what we wore on the programs,
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Lind, and then
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even when we
were on the programs,
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we changed up, didn't we, Sis?
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I don't know if
you can see Linda
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but I mean, we change
stuff as we were taping,
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because Linda and I would pray,
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we'd go, this isn't working
and Linda would go, Cinda,
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let's go behind the
set, and we would pray.
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And then we'd come out
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and Rodney
Laney was our director
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and He was so easy to work with,
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we go Rodney...
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Now this is for
Tiny Tots, right?
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This is for Tiny Tots.
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This is when we... Thank you.
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This is when we
created Tiny Tots.
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And we would
literally go behind the set.
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And Linda would go,
Linda throw an idea,
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Rodney would throw an idea,
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I would throw an
idea and we'd pray.
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And then we just go
on the set and do it.
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Didn't we, Sis?
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Yes, and even
before we did that,
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3ABN had a love for children
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and Donna McNeilus
had a love for children.
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Yes, she did.
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'Cause she
actually started something.
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Yes, she did.
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And she actually
started Kids Time
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and didn't she call
it, wasn't it called?
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It was called
Kids Time. Absolutely.
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That was in the...
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I think if my memory is correct.
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I'm trying to remember
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but I think it
was in the late 90s.
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We were digging
through some old footage.
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This was for like
an anniversary program.
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And we keep in the archives
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and we saw Kids Time
launched with Donna McNeilus.
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And that was um,
if my memory is right,
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it was in the
late 90s with that.
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Yeah, that's exactly right.
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So it was Donna McNeilus
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that actually
started the Kids Time.
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And then she decided
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to move on to into
another part of ministry.
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And so they needed
some more kids programming,
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and that's when we got involved.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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And won't really...
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No, please, go ahead.
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One of the thing was,
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we didn't know what
the program should be.
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So as we were playing,
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we felt like it
should be something
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with that the parents
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could do with
their kids at home.
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They could have a simple thumb.
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They could sing with them,
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they could take
a walk with them,
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they could pray with
them, they could cook with them,
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so that the family unit
could be more bonded to get.
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So it was about family.
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I love the text
in Jeremiah 31:1.
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It says, "I will be the
God of all the families."
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And so He was always
right there at the center.
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When Cinda and I would
come together and pray.
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We remembered that
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He was the God
of all the families,
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He loves our
children, He loves us,
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we're His children.
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And so it became
like, like the prayer.
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We said, Lord,
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when the kids hear the prayer,
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when we make them
want to be prayed to,
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teach them to pray.
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And then we prayed for
when they hear the theme song,
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may the little kids
just right to the step
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because they know
that's their program.
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Well, wasn't it Grandpa Chuck
that wrote the intro program?
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Yes, it was. Yes.
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And I have had mothers tell me
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that when their
children hear that,
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they, their little
babies crawl up to the set
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and the little
toddlers go running.
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And the neat thing
is about the prayer
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teaching them to pray.
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We had someone just
from this last Sabbath
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and their little boy was two
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And she said Tiny
Tots taught our little son
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how to pray.
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Oh.
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And He likes to pull his mom
and dad breaks up besides them,
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and they start praying.
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And when He saw
me, He said, Tiny Tots,
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Tiny Tots, Tiny Tots.
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And He loves Tiny Tots.
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And I gave him a little Eleanor.
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And He carried it all around it,
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Tiny Tots, Tiny Tots, Tiny Tots.
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And she said, He is learning.
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And I think his
name was Brady Eli.
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He is learning to love Jesus.
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And that's why we do what we do.
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It's powerful.
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Amen. That's a powerful story.
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That was
actually my next question
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is why is
children's ministry important?
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And you kind of
already answered that a bit.
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But I don't know if
you all want to jump in
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and share something.
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Why is children's ministry
important to you specifically?
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And why should it be
important to us as people?
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Well, God says,
little child shall lead them.
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And, you know, I
actually and Linda too...
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There's parents
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that have been giving
their hearts to the Lord
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because of their children.
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They want, they
wanted a quality program
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or program that their
child was interested in.
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And so they let
them watch Tiny Tots,
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but then they would sit
down and watch with them.
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And Linda chose all
the themes for Tiny Tots.
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And so, she went
through the Ten Commandments
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one season.
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And so she did the
seventh commandment.
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And she was teaching the
kids how to keep the Sabbath.
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And so parents were
watching and listening to this.
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And so, parents were
being led to Christ too.
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So that's why it's so
important for children,
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because children
can lead adults to God.
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And they're less threatening.
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I've noticed that
children have this ability
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with parents and
adults, even neighborhood,
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in their neighborhood.
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They can say
something and witness
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as a testimony just right there.
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And I've seen it
time and time again.
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And even your worship
songs that on Tiny Tots
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no matter which
church I went to,
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they were singing the same songs
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that you sing on Tiny Tots,
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and I didn't know
where it started from.
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And then I would go there
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and now, you know, now
that I'm here, I'm like,
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it all began from there,
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no matter where I go
in the United States,
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everyone's
singing the same songs.
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And I don't think
we realize how much
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the Holy Spirit goes amongst
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and is writing his
words on their heart.
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I mean, that's all I can say
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is the kids are always wanting
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and eager to learn from Jesus.
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And you've planted a
wonderful seed for them.
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And so, I'm just...
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Well, I'm, I want to be,
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I want to emphasize
this wasn't Linda and I.
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Linda, this...
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We were God's tools.
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God used you. Yes, God used us.
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This was prayed for,
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that was totally
led by the Holy Spirit.
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This is God's program.
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This wasn't us.
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So it's not about us.
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It's about the glory of God.
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And, you know, our Dad told us,
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you know, if you're
going to do something,
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put your whole heart into it.
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And so, Linda and I am totally,
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you know, have a
heart for children.
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And I wanted to read
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1 Corinthians 10:31.
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It says,
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"Therefore,
whether you eat or drink
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or whatever you do,
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do all to the glory of God."
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And so, you know,
that's working with children,
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that's convey the glory of God.
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Amen.
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I know, we're
gonna ask you, Linda,
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the same question
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as far as why you
think it's important
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being involved with
children's ministry.
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But I just want to say,
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I had the privilege
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and opportunity to
play the piano for Tiny Tots
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Worship for several
seasons with Auntie Linda
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and with Miss Cinda.
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And they are genuine.
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They are women of God.
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I remember praying together,
I remember crying together.
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I remember the hours they spent
of planning and organization
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and putting it together
and the kids loved them.
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I mean, just an amazing thing.
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It was a privilege to
work with both of them
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and to see God use you.
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You know, in those programs
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for so many years
and we have Tiny Tots,
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we have Tiny Tots Kitchen,
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we have Tiny Tots Worship.
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And what else,
am I missing more?
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Well, we have the Kids
Camp Fun in the Kitchen.
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Yes.
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And let's jump to
Kids Camp for just a moment
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because we got to discuss that
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time with Aunt Francine
and those amazing programs too.
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But before Auntie Linda,
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I know I have not
given you opportunity.
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So tell us about why you believe
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that children's
ministry is important.
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Why is it
important to work with kids?
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To me, it's because
Jesus is all together lovely.
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He is their best friend.
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He is always by their
side, He will never leave them,
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never forsake
them, even for a moment.
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They need to know who Jesus is.
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Because the enemy has planted
a very bad picture of Jesus
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and making what he
says are of none in fact.
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But we have God's Word
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that we can show the kids
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how good and kind Jesus is,
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how He healed people,
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how He cares about
their tender feelings.
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And Jesus likes
to laugh with them,
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and have fun with them.
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They really need
to know who is Jesus,
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and that He loves them.
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Because all those
that can grasp that
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and they know
that Jesus loves them.
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They are going to be the ones
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that are going to be
looking up into the heavens
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and say, this is
my Lord and my God,
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and I am waiting for Him.
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And here comes my
best friend, take me home.
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And it's gonna be awesome.
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Amen. What a glorious day.
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What hope in order to
be able to look forward
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to Jesus coming again,
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and all these children that
through the programming of 3ABN
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and through each one of you,
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and what you have done
and you at home joining hands
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with the Ministry of
3ABN helping to produce
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and put these
programs on the air
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through your prayers
and financial support.
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What an incredible difference.
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Think of all these kids
who will come to know Jesus.
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So let's fast
forward a little bit.
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And we'll enter
Francine Bergmann,
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when you and your
husband moved here
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and God brought you here.
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We believe that
with all our hearts
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and what a gift you
have been to this ministry,
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as a woman of God
and a woman of prayer.
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And talk to us a little bit
about the launch of Kids Camp,
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and then the programming
that was involved with them?
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Well, that was an amazing time,
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because I was also finishing
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in the school year and Kids Camp
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was just seeing the
whole team working together.
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I mean, there
were so many facets
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have been
running simultaneously,
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all at once.
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And everybody, I
mean, I know for example,
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Linda and Cinda came
in early in the morning
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and then late at night
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and stayed all
night almost produce...
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getting ready for
the next programming.
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And it was just
everybody was so committed
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because again, they
saw the vision of kids
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and the need for
the ministry for kids
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and reaching
other children in it.
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And again, that
just testifies that 3ABN
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is so wanting to
provide programming for kids.
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And, you know,
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it reminds me of a
text here in Deuteronomy 6,
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starting with,
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"You shall love
the Lord your God
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with all your heart,
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with all your soul,
and with all your strength.
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And these words,
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which I command you
today shall be in your heart,
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you shall teach them
diligently to your children,
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and you shall talk about them
00:23:07.18\00:23:08.68
when you sit down in your house,
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and when you walk by the way,
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when you lie down
and when you rise up."
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And I think if we
just can mimic a little bit
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about who Jesus is
and show that character,
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kids are drawn to the love,
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if we just spend time with them,
00:23:24.70\00:23:26.17
no matter you at
home, for example,
00:23:26.20\00:23:29.14
is just spending
time with the kids.
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All of us have that ability
to spend time with the kids.
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I just remember, at
home, we would have a garden,
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and all the neighborhood kids
00:23:38.75\00:23:40.32
would just
gravitate to our garden.
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And the parents were
like, what are you doing?
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And it's just the time
00:23:44.62\00:23:46.19
that we were able
to spend with the kids.
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It was that that we
were reflecting who Jesus is.
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And I think even
with this Kids Camp,
00:23:52.43\00:23:53.96
for example.
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It's planting a
seed because hopefully
00:23:55.43\00:23:57.60
the kids want to come back.
00:23:57.63\00:23:58.97
And then they share
what they've learned.
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Because, really, it is a legacy
that these kids hopefully,
00:24:00.90\00:24:04.67
they are legacy basically.
00:24:04.71\00:24:06.04
I mean, if we invest in it,
00:24:06.07\00:24:08.28
we won't be sorry of
what happens to that,
00:24:08.31\00:24:11.65
because that's a
great investment.
00:24:11.68\00:24:13.15
That's our future,
really, if you think about it,
00:24:13.18\00:24:15.58
in shaping our world today,
00:24:15.62\00:24:18.22
because there's so much
going against them so...
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Well, you know, I know...
00:24:21.09\00:24:22.59
Kids Camp was
incredible, Francine.
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I mean, it took a
lot to put together.
00:24:24.69\00:24:28.20
And you did an incredible job.
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And I have to tell you that
00:24:30.73\00:24:33.74
I literally saw kids crying
00:24:33.77\00:24:35.70
when their parents told
them it was their last day.
00:24:35.74\00:24:37.64
They were like, no,
00:24:37.67\00:24:39.01
we don't get to come back
00:24:39.04\00:24:40.38
and they're like,
literally in tears
00:24:40.41\00:24:42.68
because they
didn't get to come back.
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And we hope we can do
it soon in the future.
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We keep hoping we can
do something like that.
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But it takes a lot
and it's a commitment.
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And again, that's
where the financial support
00:24:50.99\00:24:52.85
and the vision of everyone,
00:24:52.89\00:24:54.62
it can't be just
one or two people.
00:24:54.66\00:24:56.66
It really takes
a whole community.
00:24:56.69\00:24:58.83
We need to realize that
00:24:58.86\00:25:00.20
that is the biggest investment
00:25:00.23\00:25:01.56
we can make for the future
00:25:01.60\00:25:02.96
in preparing
young hearts for Jesus.
00:25:03.00\00:25:05.20
So yeah, those,
just the Kids Camp.
00:25:05.23\00:25:08.44
I mean, I just appreciated
00:25:08.47\00:25:10.11
you and Linda and
just everyone diving in.
00:25:10.14\00:25:14.51
I mean, just the
personalities of everyone
00:25:14.54\00:25:16.61
and Kids Camp was so much fun,
00:25:16.64\00:25:18.55
to sing along
and the kitchen fun.
00:25:18.58\00:25:21.78
There was just a lot to do.
00:25:21.82\00:25:23.55
It wasn't a dull
moment for anybody.
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But, you know, nowadays,
00:25:25.49\00:25:26.92
kids have so much
exciting programming.
00:25:26.96\00:25:31.76
I mean, they're
all on their phones,
00:25:31.79\00:25:33.70
they're all on their iPads,
they're all on their computers.
00:25:33.73\00:25:37.17
They're hyper stimulated.
00:25:37.20\00:25:38.57
Exactly, and there's
a lot to compete with.
00:25:38.60\00:25:41.57
So we need to make sure that
00:25:41.60\00:25:43.41
we have really
good quality programming
00:25:43.44\00:25:46.98
that teaches them about Jesus.
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That's the focus is about Jesus,
00:25:49.34\00:25:51.48
because all these other programs
00:25:51.51\00:25:53.95
that I see kids, you know,
00:25:53.98\00:25:55.95
their games they're
doing, and they're violent,
00:25:55.98\00:25:58.52
and they're not
teaching them quality stuff.
00:25:58.55\00:26:01.49
And so that's why we
need really good programming
00:26:01.52\00:26:04.99
that teaches them the Word.
00:26:05.03\00:26:06.70
Let's unpack just a little bit
00:26:06.73\00:26:08.06
of some of the
different programming
00:26:08.10\00:26:09.43
that we did do during Kids Camp.
00:26:09.46\00:26:11.83
You are right, it
was a lot of work.
00:26:11.87\00:26:13.70
We always shut
3ABN down for that week,
00:26:13.74\00:26:16.24
you know to,
00:26:16.27\00:26:17.61
and so many people were involved
00:26:17.64\00:26:19.41
in making it happen.
00:26:19.44\00:26:20.78
But we had different programs.
00:26:20.81\00:26:22.14
We had Kitchen Fun.
00:26:22.18\00:26:23.51
Talk to us a
little bit about that?
00:26:23.55\00:26:24.91
Oh, we had...
00:26:24.95\00:26:26.28
We had totally different
00:26:26.31\00:26:29.28
for me because
they were, we had 10,
00:26:29.32\00:26:32.25
sometimes 11 or 12 kids
on the set at the same time.
00:26:32.29\00:26:36.89
I literally by the
end of the time, the week,
00:26:36.93\00:26:39.46
I was so hoarse, I was going,
00:26:39.49\00:26:41.26
"Okay, kids,
who's got the mixer."
00:26:41.30\00:26:46.53
But the kids had so much fun.
00:26:46.57\00:26:48.87
And they were, I
mean, they just loved it.
00:26:48.90\00:26:52.24
And we actually taught
them regular healthy recipes.
00:26:52.27\00:26:57.11
Not just, you know,
00:26:57.15\00:26:58.61
making simple little stuff
or playing with their food.
00:26:58.65\00:27:02.15
We taught them how to cook.
00:27:02.18\00:27:04.15
And Auntie Linda, what
about the program you did,
00:27:04.19\00:27:06.25
Bible Gems, you and
Aaron and the team there?
00:27:06.29\00:27:09.49
What about that program?
00:27:09.52\00:27:11.49
Yes, God put
together an incredible team.
00:27:11.53\00:27:15.63
The whole Hall
family, Pastor Hall,
00:27:15.66\00:27:19.43
he's actually our
educational director
00:27:19.47\00:27:22.34
in Michigan,
00:27:22.37\00:27:24.01
and his kids all helped.
00:27:24.04\00:27:26.51
And then we had JoDee Shoffner,
00:27:26.54\00:27:29.41
and she had her
friend come at play.
00:27:29.44\00:27:32.91
But still when we came there,
00:27:32.95\00:27:35.28
you know, we
weren't really sure,
00:27:35.32\00:27:37.09
I wasn't really sure
what exactly was needed.
00:27:37.12\00:27:41.26
But we prayed and
the production team
00:27:41.29\00:27:46.86
behind the scenes
00:27:46.90\00:27:49.06
came and prayed
with us behind the set,
00:27:49.10\00:27:51.60
they prayed with me personally.
00:27:51.63\00:27:53.80
And I knew that God was there
00:27:53.84\00:27:56.54
and He was
going to do something.
00:27:56.57\00:27:58.61
But we had to do it in one take.
00:27:58.64\00:28:02.94
Now, that was everything if...
00:28:02.98\00:28:06.55
Try to wrap your
mind around that.
00:28:06.58\00:28:10.69
You know, God can do anything.
00:28:10.72\00:28:14.16
And what you see
was just what you get.
00:28:14.19\00:28:18.03
It was one take and that was it.
00:28:18.06\00:28:21.23
We had kids playing
with their clothes we had,
00:28:21.26\00:28:24.20
but they loved it.
00:28:24.23\00:28:26.20
And they feel
they were a part of it.
00:28:26.23\00:28:28.97
And it became, I
began to feel as we get it,
00:28:29.00\00:28:33.61
that the Holy Spirit
was the one directing
00:28:33.64\00:28:35.94
because I could have
never thought of that
00:28:35.98\00:28:37.85
those things ever.
00:28:37.88\00:28:40.05
God is amazing.
00:28:40.08\00:28:41.58
He says,
00:28:41.62\00:28:42.95
"Call on Me and
I will answer you
00:28:42.98\00:28:45.99
and show you
great and mighty thing
00:28:46.02\00:28:48.52
that you know not of."
00:28:48.56\00:28:50.23
Jeremiah 33:3.
00:28:50.26\00:28:52.49
And God's precious
Word, you can take His Word,
00:28:52.53\00:28:57.20
and you can hang on to it
because of the promises in it.
00:28:57.23\00:29:01.90
He will fulfill.
00:29:01.94\00:29:03.57
It's the
warfare against the epic
00:29:03.61\00:29:06.47
and he will fight like
00:29:06.51\00:29:07.84
Gideon did with
the fur leathered band.
00:29:07.88\00:29:10.58
God is able.
00:29:10.61\00:29:12.91
Amen. Amen.
00:29:12.95\00:29:14.58
Speaking of that,
00:29:14.62\00:29:15.95
I want to take a
little left turn here.
00:29:15.98\00:29:17.32
It reminds me,
00:29:17.35\00:29:18.69
there's people
watching right now
00:29:18.72\00:29:20.06
that maybe your
child has left God.
00:29:20.09\00:29:23.79
You know, it says
in the Word of God,
00:29:23.83\00:29:25.69
"Train up a child in
the way he should go.
00:29:25.73\00:29:27.30
And when he's old, he
will not depart from it."
00:29:27.33\00:29:29.16
But you might
not be seeing that,
00:29:29.20\00:29:30.80
you might be saying I
trained them to know Jesus.
00:29:30.83\00:29:33.13
And right now they're
walking in the wilderness
00:29:33.17\00:29:34.90
or you might be a grandparent
or you might be a teenager
00:29:34.94\00:29:39.34
and not even sure what
you want to do with Jesus.
00:29:39.37\00:29:43.45
So I want each one of
you to talk to that a moment?
00:29:43.48\00:29:47.02
What would you say
to someone right now
00:29:47.05\00:29:49.25
to encourage them,
to pray for their kids
00:29:49.28\00:29:53.19
to what can they do to help
00:29:53.22\00:29:57.03
if their child or grandchild
is wandering away from Jesus?
00:29:57.06\00:30:02.80
I agree that
00:30:02.83\00:30:04.17
the biggest thing is to
pray and never lose heart.
00:30:04.20\00:30:07.44
I have seen once they have
their own children sometimes,
00:30:07.47\00:30:12.51
that's their turning point
00:30:12.54\00:30:13.88
because they realize that
00:30:13.91\00:30:15.24
their child is
starting to act like them.
00:30:15.28\00:30:17.45
And then they want
to have that change.
00:30:17.48\00:30:19.41
I've seen that
happen time and time again.
00:30:19.45\00:30:22.18
As long as we have
breath, there's still hope.
00:30:22.22\00:30:25.32
And we want their happiness
no matter what it takes.
00:30:25.35\00:30:30.23
And prayerfully I mean, we
have to pray for each other.
00:30:30.26\00:30:33.13
And in children even
participating in that prayer,
00:30:33.16\00:30:36.33
because sometimes I
come across a young person
00:30:36.36\00:30:40.94
that is praying
for their parent,
00:30:40.97\00:30:42.67
and they feel like
their parent is going away.
00:30:42.70\00:30:45.17
And even
children have that effect.
00:30:45.21\00:30:47.94
And God hears
each of our prayers,
00:30:47.98\00:30:51.45
and not to lose out.
00:30:51.48\00:30:52.81
So set that example.
00:30:52.85\00:30:54.92
And even if
they don't come back,
00:30:54.95\00:30:58.25
you've set that example
00:30:58.29\00:30:59.62
that you never know
what plant seed is planted,
00:30:59.65\00:31:02.36
because I feel like I even
00:31:02.39\00:31:03.76
have a family member
that has walked away.
00:31:03.79\00:31:07.66
And yet the kids are the ones
00:31:07.70\00:31:09.26
that are seem a
little more open.
00:31:09.30\00:31:12.03
And you never know
what the end result is.
00:31:12.07\00:31:15.54
We don't know the
beginning from the end.
00:31:15.57\00:31:17.41
And I'm thankful
for that, but God does.
00:31:17.44\00:31:20.31
And so, just keep praying,
00:31:20.34\00:31:22.54
keep having that hope
00:31:22.58\00:31:23.91
and just keep
reflecting who Jesus is.
00:31:23.95\00:31:25.88
Amen.
00:31:25.91\00:31:27.25
I would refer them
to a text in the Bible
00:31:27.28\00:31:31.42
that I absolutely love,
00:31:31.45\00:31:33.82
and have memorized.
00:31:33.86\00:31:35.26
It's Isaiah 41:10 to 12.
00:31:35.29\00:31:39.56
And it says,
00:31:39.59\00:31:40.93
"Fear not for I am with you,
00:31:40.96\00:31:43.40
be not dismayed,
for I am your God,
00:31:43.43\00:31:47.64
I will strengthen you.
00:31:47.67\00:31:49.90
Yes, I will help you,
00:31:49.94\00:31:51.81
I will uphold you
00:31:51.84\00:31:53.17
with the right hand
of My righteousness."
00:31:53.21\00:31:56.01
Behold, I mean,
it's like God's saying,
00:31:56.04\00:31:59.75
I'm going to be with you.
00:31:59.78\00:32:01.12
So keep praying to God
00:32:01.15\00:32:02.98
and keep praying
for your children,
00:32:03.02\00:32:04.95
don't give up.
00:32:04.99\00:32:06.52
And, you know,
00:32:06.55\00:32:07.89
I would try to live,
00:32:07.92\00:32:13.76
you can't preach
to your children,
00:32:13.80\00:32:15.76
but you can live Jesus
by not raising your voice,
00:32:15.80\00:32:20.07
by being patient with them.
00:32:20.10\00:32:22.57
And maybe by
spending time with them,
00:32:22.60\00:32:25.04
like quality time,
00:32:25.07\00:32:26.61
you know,
getting it doing hiking,
00:32:26.64\00:32:28.98
doing, you know,
things they like to do,
00:32:29.01\00:32:30.65
but spending time with them.
00:32:30.68\00:32:32.81
And maybe in
your quiet, gentle way
00:32:32.85\00:32:36.12
you can show them Jesus,
00:32:36.15\00:32:37.89
but always
remember God's with you.
00:32:37.92\00:32:39.92
And I know Linda deals with this
00:32:39.95\00:32:42.22
on a daily basis,
00:32:42.26\00:32:44.06
don't you, Sis?
00:32:44.09\00:32:46.53
Yes, but, for me it
was even more than that.
00:32:46.56\00:32:50.83
I didn't realize
00:32:50.87\00:32:52.20
that I loved my
kids more than Jesus.
00:32:52.23\00:32:55.94
And I was crying
00:32:55.97\00:32:59.34
and praying before one time,
00:32:59.37\00:33:01.78
and God spoke to me
so strong in my heart,
00:33:01.81\00:33:04.61
it jolted me.
00:33:04.65\00:33:06.31
He said,
00:33:06.35\00:33:07.68
"If you're son doesn't love Me,
00:33:07.72\00:33:12.05
do you still want to love Me?
00:33:12.09\00:33:14.92
And if your child
doesn't want to go to heaven,
00:33:14.96\00:33:19.63
do you still want to go."
00:33:19.66\00:33:22.10
And then God showed me that
00:33:22.13\00:33:24.37
I was allowing
Satan to steal my joy.
00:33:24.40\00:33:30.07
And so at that moment,
00:33:30.11\00:33:33.21
I was kneeling down.
00:33:33.24\00:33:35.41
And I laid my...
00:33:35.44\00:33:36.78
I laid my child at the cross.
00:33:36.81\00:33:39.61
And 'cause God had
given me this little song
00:33:39.65\00:33:42.68
that just played in my head,
00:33:42.72\00:33:44.22
I don't know where it came from,
00:33:44.25\00:33:46.79
leave them
there, leave them there.
00:33:46.82\00:33:49.66
If they stumble in, they fall,
00:33:49.69\00:33:52.53
I will surely hear their call.
00:33:52.56\00:33:57.60
So bring them to the
cross and leave them there.
00:33:57.63\00:34:02.14
And so at that
moment, I left my child there.
00:34:02.17\00:34:06.61
And I said, "God,
what do You want me to do?"
00:34:06.64\00:34:11.55
And He said,
00:34:11.58\00:34:12.91
"I just want you to
help other people's kids
00:34:12.95\00:34:16.99
and to encourage the mothers
to keep their joy in Me."
00:34:17.02\00:34:22.22
And so I was filled
00:34:22.26\00:34:26.06
with an
incredible amount of joy,
00:34:26.09\00:34:29.70
a joy for the Lord.
00:34:29.73\00:34:32.67
And it was just amazing,
00:34:32.70\00:34:35.50
that peace that came
over me, I dried my tears.
00:34:35.54\00:34:40.24
I knew God is with me,
00:34:40.28\00:34:42.51
and then I stay
up, what do you want?
00:34:42.54\00:34:45.48
Thirteen, it says,
00:34:45.51\00:34:47.25
"For I the Lord your God
00:34:47.28\00:34:51.05
will hold your right hand."
00:34:51.09\00:34:53.82
"Thank you.
00:34:53.86\00:34:55.96
I will help you."
00:34:55.99\00:35:00.16
God is faithful,
00:35:00.20\00:35:01.60
but He wants our love first.
00:35:01.63\00:35:06.33
And He will use that
00:35:06.37\00:35:08.70
to touch the
hearts of the children.
00:35:08.74\00:35:11.17
God is faithful.
00:35:11.21\00:35:12.57
Amen. Amen.
00:35:12.61\00:35:13.94
What a beautiful encouragement,
that has encouraged me
00:35:13.98\00:35:17.01
and I hope and pray it
is encouraged you at home
00:35:17.05\00:35:19.95
to not give up,
00:35:19.98\00:35:21.32
to focus your
attention on Jesus.
00:35:21.35\00:35:23.52
What an incredible appeal.
00:35:23.55\00:35:24.95
Thank you so much for that.
00:35:24.99\00:35:27.12
So, how has been
involved in children's ministry
00:35:27.16\00:35:31.13
and then we're gonna talk about
00:35:31.16\00:35:32.49
some brand new
upcoming projects here at 3ABN,
00:35:32.53\00:35:35.63
specifically for children.
00:35:35.66\00:35:37.23
But how has been
involved in children's ministry?
00:35:37.27\00:35:39.67
How has that impacted you?
00:35:39.70\00:35:41.34
How has that
changed your own life?
00:35:41.37\00:35:44.84
I don't know who
wants to jump in first?
00:35:44.87\00:35:47.74
Well, I'll start.
00:35:47.78\00:35:50.38
When I was young, I was
only about 10 years old,
00:35:50.41\00:35:54.02
but I wanted to start teaching
kindergarten, Sabbath school.
00:35:54.05\00:35:57.72
And so, I went
to PMC and I said,
00:35:57.75\00:36:00.66
"Hey, I'm
willing to help teach."
00:36:00.69\00:36:02.02
And what's PMC?
00:36:02.06\00:36:03.43
Sorry, Pioneer Memorial Church,
sorry, at Andrews, Michigan.
00:36:03.46\00:36:08.10
And so I started
teaching right then and there.
00:36:08.13\00:36:11.47
And then I helped
out with summer day camp,
00:36:11.50\00:36:13.74
but constantly,
00:36:13.77\00:36:17.04
the more I would share Jesus
00:36:17.07\00:36:19.47
and the more the children
wanted to be like Jesus,
00:36:19.51\00:36:23.01
it just warms my
heart, even in the classroom,
00:36:23.04\00:36:26.82
whatever, God's always working.
00:36:26.85\00:36:29.68
It's always a
miracle what God does,
00:36:29.72\00:36:31.69
but He is always there.
00:36:31.72\00:36:34.12
And when I see that,
you want to give out more,
00:36:34.16\00:36:38.16
you want to give
more of yourself,
00:36:38.19\00:36:39.56
because you realize that
00:36:39.59\00:36:41.16
you see the
fruit of who Jesus is,
00:36:41.20\00:36:44.43
and they want to be like Jesus,
00:36:44.47\00:36:46.53
and their character starts.
00:36:46.57\00:36:47.90
And so, even
though I was thinking
00:36:47.94\00:36:49.87
about going into
the medical field,
00:36:49.90\00:36:51.61
I realized that
the biggest impact
00:36:51.64\00:36:54.71
that I felt I could
make was to serve children,
00:36:54.74\00:36:59.11
and to be about God's business
helping children love Jesus.
00:36:59.15\00:37:03.69
And so that's why I took
up teaching and whatever.
00:37:03.72\00:37:06.15
I mean, that's the
short end of the story.
00:37:06.19\00:37:07.89
But time and time
again, it's amazing.
00:37:07.92\00:37:10.29
Even when I was
creating lessons,
00:37:10.33\00:37:12.39
how the theme,
whatever the topic was,
00:37:12.43\00:37:16.03
was always the same theme,
00:37:16.06\00:37:17.40
like I couldn't
even plan it sometimes.
00:37:17.43\00:37:20.00
And even when I'm talking like
in Sabbath school or something,
00:37:20.04\00:37:22.70
you would see other themes
00:37:22.74\00:37:24.11
that came in that supported
the love of Jesus somehow.
00:37:24.14\00:37:28.18
And I just, I'm
just always amazed
00:37:28.21\00:37:30.65
how God works
these little miracles
00:37:30.68\00:37:32.41
that you can only
do so much planning.
00:37:32.45\00:37:35.85
But it's really
Jesus that shines through
00:37:35.88\00:37:37.72
and then you sit back,
00:37:37.75\00:37:39.09
and you're just so humbled
every time you work with kids.
00:37:39.12\00:37:43.09
And you say, "Wow,
Lord, You did that,"
00:37:43.12\00:37:45.69
like you realize,
and you go back home,
00:37:45.73\00:37:47.93
and you tell your
husband and you say,
00:37:47.96\00:37:50.10
"Did you know this?"
You know, and it's just,
00:37:50.13\00:37:52.73
it's very, it's very humbling.
00:37:52.77\00:37:54.67
And I think that's
why we do what we do
00:37:54.70\00:37:56.84
is that you see
00:37:56.87\00:37:58.47
how much God is
influencing in the hearts.
00:37:58.51\00:38:00.78
And that is the huge
investment in a nutshell.
00:38:00.81\00:38:03.98
I don't know how else to say it,
00:38:04.01\00:38:05.35
but I'm just always amazed
00:38:05.38\00:38:07.15
how God works
these little miracles,
00:38:07.18\00:38:10.79
that works these little miracles
00:38:10.82\00:38:12.19
for our young people.
00:38:12.22\00:38:13.56
And He is, the Holy
Spirit has to go before.
00:38:13.59\00:38:16.42
There's nothing we can do.
00:38:16.46\00:38:18.66
I can't plan a
lesson big enough,
00:38:18.69\00:38:21.96
because even when
you're designing a program,
00:38:22.00\00:38:24.73
even on the set, there's
times where I've realized
00:38:24.77\00:38:27.94
I had to change what it is,
00:38:27.97\00:38:30.71
because it needs
to be the Holy Spirit.
00:38:30.74\00:38:32.71
Yeah. Absolutely. Amen.
00:38:32.74\00:38:35.08
So it strengthens our own faith.
00:38:35.11\00:38:36.64
Yes.
00:38:36.68\00:38:38.01
And that's like, we
get the big blessing.
00:38:38.05\00:38:39.58
It may be a lot of work.
00:38:39.61\00:38:41.65
And, but you realize,
00:38:41.68\00:38:43.65
I think you
realize how it's not me.
00:38:43.69\00:38:49.06
And, you know,
sometimes, I mean,
00:38:49.09\00:38:51.63
after Linda and I
would finish the show,
00:38:51.66\00:38:53.70
I was like, wow,
00:38:53.73\00:38:56.40
we didn't even plan any of that.
00:38:56.43\00:38:58.47
And look what
happened, you know, a child...
00:38:58.50\00:39:00.74
We'd have
something all planned out.
00:39:00.77\00:39:02.77
And maybe the
children would just start,
00:39:02.80\00:39:04.47
you know, because
they're spontaneous.
00:39:04.51\00:39:06.44
And they would say something,
00:39:06.47\00:39:08.54
and that would change
00:39:08.58\00:39:09.91
the whole
direction of our program.
00:39:09.94\00:39:11.81
And we would go that
was, we didn't do that.
00:39:11.85\00:39:15.72
God did that.
00:39:15.75\00:39:17.09
And so, I think
it taught me that.
00:39:17.12\00:39:20.76
Like you said, it humbles you.
00:39:20.79\00:39:23.43
And it teaches you that
00:39:23.46\00:39:24.99
this isn't me, this is God.
00:39:25.03\00:39:28.73
Amen. That's powerful.
00:39:28.76\00:39:30.77
Aunty Linda?
00:39:30.80\00:39:34.54
In my carpet self world,
I just feel like expressive,
00:39:34.57\00:39:39.27
because through the
children's ministries,
00:39:39.31\00:39:43.08
God has brought my own heart
00:39:43.11\00:39:46.21
closer to Him.
00:39:46.25\00:39:49.25
And I know that He is doing
00:39:49.28\00:39:53.29
this miracle in my heart.
00:39:53.32\00:39:56.59
Right now as I'm working
00:39:56.62\00:39:58.03
at Great Lakes
Adventist Academy,
00:39:58.06\00:40:00.66
and I just want to
show you one minute,
00:40:00.70\00:40:03.67
who's been helping me.
00:40:03.70\00:40:06.17
This is Miss
Danielle. Oh, Hi, Danielle.
00:40:06.20\00:40:10.44
Hi, Danielle. We
love Danielle Babb.
00:40:10.47\00:40:13.51
Yes, you do.
00:40:13.54\00:40:14.88
Of course, her mom and
dad and brothers work here.
00:40:14.91\00:40:18.41
And she's worked here before
00:40:18.45\00:40:20.08
but we're glad that
she's there with you.
00:40:20.12\00:40:22.68
Yes.
00:40:22.72\00:40:24.05
And the amazing thing is
that when things come up,
00:40:24.09\00:40:27.69
Danielle and I
00:40:27.72\00:40:29.06
will get on our
knees together and pray
00:40:29.09\00:40:31.23
because God tells me,
00:40:31.26\00:40:34.13
you are not the savior at all,
00:40:34.16\00:40:37.27
I am the savior.
00:40:37.30\00:40:39.57
And you can call on
Me, and I will answer you,
00:40:39.60\00:40:43.41
and show you those
great mighty thing,
00:40:43.44\00:40:45.81
but you can't fix this.
00:40:45.84\00:40:48.08
And then we sit back
and watch God fix it.
00:40:48.11\00:40:53.28
Is that even
amazing? That's awesome.
00:40:53.31\00:40:55.18
You had experiences
00:40:55.22\00:40:57.29
where girls will
come to her apartment
00:40:57.32\00:41:01.52
because it's
like being with Jesus.
00:41:01.56\00:41:05.53
And they love to be around her.
00:41:05.56\00:41:08.73
And I think that
00:41:08.76\00:41:10.23
as we are more and
more in love with Jesus,
00:41:10.27\00:41:15.20
then the kids are
going to be drawn to Jesus,
00:41:15.24\00:41:19.41
and open up more and more
opportunities for us to share.
00:41:19.44\00:41:23.14
Yeah. And Jesus
was the God of fun.
00:41:23.18\00:41:27.12
And He, well, we
can't say to know that.
00:41:27.15\00:41:30.65
And Danielle
makes it fun for them.
00:41:30.69\00:41:35.22
We had one girl in the door
00:41:35.26\00:41:37.66
that she didn't
use any of her talent,
00:41:37.69\00:41:41.93
but Danielle saw
that she could sing.
00:41:41.96\00:41:46.40
And she actually gave
special music, right, Danielle?
00:41:46.43\00:41:52.11
Yes.
00:41:52.14\00:41:53.61
And she has her up front,
00:41:53.64\00:41:56.34
doing things she
never thought she could do,
00:41:56.38\00:41:58.98
which is growing her own faith.
00:41:59.01\00:42:00.92
Amen. That's awesome.
00:42:00.95\00:42:03.28
You know, Sis...
00:42:03.32\00:42:05.62
You know, Sis, I
don't want to date,
00:42:05.65\00:42:08.09
but Danielle was one
of our original Tiny Tots.
00:42:08.12\00:42:11.79
And she was
amazing on Tiny Tots,
00:42:15.56\00:42:18.50
never gave us one
moments of stress.
00:42:18.53\00:42:23.41
He was so compliant and sweet
00:42:23.44\00:42:26.44
and did everything
we wanted her to do.
00:42:26.47\00:42:29.31
So thank you, Danielle.
00:42:29.34\00:42:32.05
But I think it takes a team.
00:42:32.08\00:42:34.75
One thing I seen
about you and Francine
00:42:34.78\00:42:38.89
and the times
that I've been with you
00:42:38.92\00:42:41.16
that you're instant in prayer,
00:42:41.19\00:42:43.43
and you and Cinda and
I have prayed together.
00:42:43.46\00:42:46.39
And, Jill, every time
we would come down to tape,
00:42:46.43\00:42:50.13
she would come and pray.
00:42:50.17\00:42:52.30
And it takes the focus off of us
00:42:52.33\00:42:56.54
and puts it where it bonds,
00:42:56.57\00:42:59.67
because it's all about Jesus.
00:42:59.71\00:43:03.38
And when they
can see who Jesus is,
00:43:03.41\00:43:07.78
they want Him too.
00:43:07.82\00:43:09.38
Amen.
00:43:09.42\00:43:12.05
Yes, so God is
amazing and faithful.
00:43:12.09\00:43:16.52
He is amazing and
faithful. That's incredible.
00:43:16.56\00:43:18.69
And, Danielle,
we're so glad to see you.
00:43:18.73\00:43:21.03
We love you.
00:43:21.06\00:43:22.53
Danielle is amazingly gifted
as a musician, as a songwriter,
00:43:22.56\00:43:26.53
as a poet, poetess.
00:43:26.57\00:43:28.94
Is it a poetess
for female? I think so.
00:43:28.97\00:43:31.07
Okay, then, well,
we'll say that's what it is.
00:43:31.11\00:43:34.51
And she just
has a heart for God.
00:43:34.54\00:43:36.31
So I'm so grateful
00:43:36.34\00:43:38.01
that she's had this
time there with you,
00:43:38.05\00:43:40.75
helping you there in the dorm.
00:43:40.78\00:43:42.12
That's what a gift.
00:43:42.15\00:43:43.49
Let's shift in the last
few moments of the program
00:43:43.52\00:43:45.49
to talking about some of
the new upcoming programs
00:43:45.52\00:43:49.32
that we have coming
out of 3ABN Kids Network.
00:43:49.36\00:43:52.89
We're going to put
up the website right now
00:43:52.93\00:43:55.23
and then we'll put
it up several times
00:43:55.26\00:43:56.80
throughout this section.
00:43:56.83\00:43:58.17
You can go to 3abnkids.tv
00:43:58.20\00:44:03.00
That website
again is 3abnkids.tv
00:44:03.04\00:44:07.64
Or you can always
email Aunt Francine
00:44:07.68\00:44:11.01
at kids@3abn.org
00:44:11.05\00:44:14.62
You can email
her at kids@3abn.org
00:44:14.65\00:44:17.39
So first of all, tell
us what would they find
00:44:17.42\00:44:19.45
if they went to 3abnkids.tv
00:44:19.49\00:44:22.32
What is available on
that website, Aunt Francine?
00:44:22.36\00:44:24.66
So we do have some of our...
00:44:24.69\00:44:26.66
You can view the programming
00:44:26.70\00:44:29.26
right there on
TV live streaming,
00:44:29.30\00:44:32.57
but there is also where you can
tie into the Tiny Tots website.
00:44:32.60\00:44:38.17
But also you can
see the whole schedule.
00:44:38.21\00:44:40.71
But what I like that
we've just recently worked on
00:44:40.74\00:44:43.71
is Detectives of Truth.
00:44:43.75\00:44:45.08
They're a little Bible studies
00:44:45.11\00:44:46.98
that has a little
craft that goes with it.
00:44:47.02\00:44:48.98
And I can even
show some examples here.
00:44:49.02\00:44:51.65
But there is an...
00:44:51.69\00:44:53.05
Over there, you can
find a lot more resources.
00:44:53.09\00:44:55.89
So we even have a little lesson
00:44:55.92\00:44:57.26
with a little
craft that goes with it.
00:44:57.29\00:44:59.76
This is the most recent one.
00:44:59.79\00:45:01.46
And they come out every week?
00:45:01.50\00:45:02.83
And they come out
every week a new one.
00:45:02.86\00:45:04.80
And so this is just to encourage
00:45:04.83\00:45:06.43
again at home to do
little studies together.
00:45:06.47\00:45:09.50
This is again
that what you mentioned
00:45:09.54\00:45:11.51
about doing it as a family.
00:45:11.54\00:45:13.54
So this is a resource to that,
especially during the pandemic,
00:45:13.58\00:45:17.31
some of them didn't
have them resources to teach,
00:45:17.35\00:45:21.65
studying the Bible at home
00:45:21.68\00:45:23.65
like if they couldn't go
to church or Sabbath school
00:45:23.69\00:45:25.49
and so this was
something that I wanted,
00:45:25.52\00:45:27.86
hoping that they would
do some crossword puzzles
00:45:27.89\00:45:29.89
and different things like that.
00:45:29.92\00:45:31.59
But also, we are hoping,
00:45:31.63\00:45:34.56
we have some resources
00:45:34.60\00:45:37.17
that we're hoping to
record some new programming.
00:45:37.20\00:45:39.83
And so that's why
00:45:39.87\00:45:41.20
I hope that kids
and parents like,
00:45:41.24\00:45:43.67
share stories.
00:45:43.71\00:45:45.44
We're hoping to do a
little more with radio,
00:45:45.47\00:45:47.84
a little more
with a Kids Express
00:45:47.88\00:45:49.71
that's coming along very soon,
00:45:49.74\00:45:51.95
that we're going to be taping.
00:45:51.98\00:45:53.31
And hopefully that's
going to be a current events
00:45:53.35\00:45:56.18
where kids can talk
about everyday problems,
00:45:56.22\00:45:59.29
or situations that come up,
00:45:59.32\00:46:01.16
questions for Aunt
Francine, for example,
00:46:01.19\00:46:03.32
and then sharing
00:46:03.36\00:46:04.69
how they're shining
their light for Jesus.
00:46:04.73\00:46:06.86
So that's something that's
coming here in the future.
00:46:06.90\00:46:09.93
Recently, we did
a little of Jesus,
00:46:09.96\00:46:12.63
My Light, focusing on
Jesus and His character.
00:46:12.67\00:46:15.64
So that started off with Jesus
00:46:15.67\00:46:17.64
as a young, being
dedicated, and then going,
00:46:17.67\00:46:21.58
we're hoping to do more series.
00:46:21.61\00:46:23.18
But that is just
sharing who Jesus is
00:46:23.21\00:46:25.85
and hoping that
00:46:25.88\00:46:27.22
children will
want to be like Jesus
00:46:27.25\00:46:28.68
and learn a little
bit about His character.
00:46:28.72\00:46:30.72
Amen.
00:46:30.75\00:46:32.09
So Jesus, My Light, I
think we have a picture
00:46:32.12\00:46:33.46
because we've
already found this,
00:46:33.49\00:46:34.96
and it's in the editing process.
00:46:34.99\00:46:36.39
Yeah. It is in
the editing process.
00:46:36.42\00:46:38.09
So right here is just
the tree house segment.
00:46:38.13\00:46:40.20
And we did Bible
scenes just beforehand.
00:46:40.23\00:46:42.80
And here is
00:46:42.83\00:46:44.30
where they're spending some time
00:46:44.33\00:46:45.67
with Aunt
Francine in our tree house.
00:46:45.70\00:46:47.34
And there you see little Ginger.
00:46:47.37\00:46:49.24
And so, again, we're
talking about who Jesus is,
00:46:49.27\00:46:52.21
and doing, like
real life applications
00:46:52.24\00:46:56.91
hoping that they see
Jesus in, even in nature.
00:46:56.95\00:47:02.18
And sometimes there
is other object lessons
00:47:02.22\00:47:04.52
that we can
learn from who Jesus is
00:47:04.55\00:47:06.89
as the good
shepherd and our friend,
00:47:06.92\00:47:08.86
forever friend.
00:47:08.89\00:47:10.23
Amen. So that program
right now is being edited.
00:47:10.26\00:47:13.29
Hope to have that
done. and really soon.
00:47:13.33\00:47:15.56
There's another
series that you just did
00:47:15.60\00:47:17.40
with Professor Ben Roy.
00:47:17.43\00:47:19.83
And he's been...
00:47:19.87\00:47:21.30
We're so blessed by
the partnership with him
00:47:21.34\00:47:23.87
and 3ABN for so many years.
00:47:23.91\00:47:26.51
So tell us about
Creation is Science.
00:47:26.54\00:47:28.64
And that's
already airing right now,
00:47:28.68\00:47:30.01
so tell us about that?
00:47:30.05\00:47:31.38
Yes, it is.
00:47:31.41\00:47:32.75
And that's a lot of fun,
because I like experimenting,
00:47:32.78\00:47:34.52
but with Professor Roy,
00:47:34.55\00:47:36.48
he's always doing it much bigger
00:47:36.52\00:47:38.75
than I could ever dream.
00:47:38.79\00:47:40.12
But it's always a lot of fun.
00:47:40.16\00:47:41.49
Because the kids again,
we came up with a theme,
00:47:41.52\00:47:44.39
a goal that we wanted
to teach who Jesus is,
00:47:44.43\00:47:47.20
again, a little
bit about who Jesus is,
00:47:47.23\00:47:49.60
and it came up with a series.
00:47:49.63\00:47:51.20
But again, that
was just a lot of fun.
00:47:51.23\00:47:52.93
And kids were
working on something at home.
00:47:52.97\00:47:55.57
And this is where
your financial support,
00:47:55.60\00:47:58.27
we want to have experiments
00:47:58.31\00:48:00.61
that go along with that
they can do at home, too.
00:48:00.64\00:48:02.84
So we're working on
that in the meantime.
00:48:02.88\00:48:05.25
But there's so many
things that we want to do.
00:48:05.28\00:48:07.68
And we just, this is
where you can email me
00:48:07.72\00:48:10.59
if you want to volunteer.
00:48:10.62\00:48:11.95
We're always
looking for costumes
00:48:11.99\00:48:13.62
or people to make things work.
00:48:13.66\00:48:15.52
I mean, we're always looking for
00:48:15.56\00:48:18.16
how we can reach
more young people.
00:48:18.19\00:48:20.60
And so this is kind of what
00:48:20.63\00:48:22.03
we just are
praying ahead of time
00:48:22.06\00:48:24.40
because God sends it
always at the right time.
00:48:24.43\00:48:26.94
So just prayerfully say,
00:48:26.97\00:48:30.01
how can you help, just
email me, I love stories.
00:48:30.04\00:48:33.58
I love to know more about
00:48:33.61\00:48:35.44
what you're
doing in your ministry,
00:48:35.48\00:48:36.91
in your local church even
00:48:36.95\00:48:38.28
because sometimes hopefully,
00:48:38.31\00:48:39.65
we can highlight
that in the Kids Express.
00:48:39.68\00:48:41.38
So I'm hoping there's something
00:48:41.42\00:48:42.75
that we're
working on for our future.
00:48:42.78\00:48:44.85
So if someone
wants to email you,
00:48:44.89\00:48:46.45
what's the best
way they can do that?
00:48:46.49\00:48:47.82
That email again, it's kid,
00:48:47.86\00:48:50.13
and I got to make
sure it's kids@3abn.org
00:48:50.16\00:48:53.53
kids@3abn.org
00:48:53.56\00:48:55.86
Perfect.
00:48:55.90\00:48:57.23
So you're looking for stories,
you're looking for volunteers.
00:48:57.27\00:48:59.73
And kids to participate.
00:48:59.77\00:49:01.90
So if you know any kids,
00:49:01.94\00:49:03.27
yes, so we're
always and we're thinking
00:49:03.30\00:49:05.97
I want kids to even
participate remotely.
00:49:06.01\00:49:09.24
So this is something
that... Like via Skype or...
00:49:09.28\00:49:11.65
Via Skype, and even
we're working toward
00:49:11.68\00:49:14.12
hopefully in radio
00:49:14.15\00:49:15.48
to even have
stories from kids on radio.
00:49:15.52\00:49:17.65
So we're working toward
different things like that.
00:49:17.69\00:49:20.12
So again, if
they email me and say,
00:49:20.16\00:49:22.32
"Hey, I'd like to participate,
00:49:22.36\00:49:23.69
they could share their videos,
00:49:23.73\00:49:25.06
but again, get your
parents' permission first.
00:49:25.09\00:49:26.96
But yeah, we're
hoping to include more kids
00:49:27.00\00:49:30.20
here in the
future, even remotely,
00:49:30.23\00:49:31.90
even if it's in
Nigeria, the Philippines,
00:49:31.93\00:49:33.90
wherever that is.
00:49:33.94\00:49:35.27
We want to have more
kids learning about Jesus
00:49:35.30\00:49:37.84
and shining for Him.
00:49:37.87\00:49:39.21
You know, I
think that's something
00:49:39.24\00:49:40.58
that COVID has taught us
00:49:40.61\00:49:41.94
is that we are
very interconnected
00:49:41.98\00:49:44.48
via the internet.
00:49:44.51\00:49:45.85
You know, when
everything shut down with COVID.
00:49:45.88\00:49:48.95
It seems like the churches
00:49:48.98\00:49:50.32
and so many of
those avenues shut down,
00:49:50.35\00:49:52.25
but 3ABN's growth on YouTube
00:49:52.29\00:49:55.19
and on the
internet grew exponentially
00:49:55.22\00:49:57.33
because people are home now.
00:49:57.36\00:49:58.69
So I love that
idea, Aunt Francine,
00:49:58.73\00:50:00.86
of connection with
kids from all over the world
00:50:00.90\00:50:03.73
and we can connect virtually,
00:50:03.77\00:50:05.93
and still have them on the set
00:50:05.97\00:50:08.34
and connecting
with the 3ABN family.
00:50:08.37\00:50:11.17
I know we're going
to go to a news break
00:50:11.21\00:50:12.74
in just a moment.
00:50:12.77\00:50:14.11
But a closing question,
00:50:14.14\00:50:15.48
this is
specifically for Miss Cinda
00:50:15.51\00:50:17.38
and Auntie Linda.
00:50:17.41\00:50:20.35
What would you tell someone
00:50:20.38\00:50:21.78
about the value of connecting
00:50:21.82\00:50:25.29
with the
children's ministry at 3ABN?
00:50:25.32\00:50:30.09
Well, I personally
have been so blessed.
00:50:30.13\00:50:34.20
But when you're
actually here at 3ABN,
00:50:34.23\00:50:37.13
the need is so great.
00:50:37.17\00:50:38.93
We need more money.
00:50:38.97\00:50:40.77
I mean, just plain
and simple like that
00:50:40.80\00:50:44.14
to do what we do.
00:50:44.17\00:50:46.24
It takes not only time,
00:50:46.27\00:50:48.44
but we also need volunteers
00:50:48.48\00:50:50.08
who can come and help.
00:50:50.11\00:50:51.61
I know Aunt Francine
00:50:51.65\00:50:52.98
could use a lot of volunteers.
00:50:53.01\00:50:57.52
Bring your sewing
machine and some material
00:50:57.55\00:50:59.59
and come and help
sew Bible costumes,
00:50:59.62\00:51:01.89
because you know we need,
00:51:01.92\00:51:03.93
there's so much that we need,
00:51:03.96\00:51:05.76
and you don't
realize how great the need is
00:51:05.79\00:51:08.96
until you're
here actually working.
00:51:09.00\00:51:12.53
And while we're
happy to donate our time,
00:51:12.57\00:51:16.17
if you can't donate your time
00:51:16.20\00:51:18.07
by actually
coming here and helping,
00:51:18.11\00:51:20.24
then donate your money.
00:51:20.28\00:51:21.71
Anything can help
because the need is great.
00:51:21.74\00:51:25.18
And I can't tell you
the blessing you'll receive.
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Amen.
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Auntie Linda,
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we just have about 40 seconds
and then we'll go to a break.
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But what would you say?
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I would say that if you say
I can't do any of these things,
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you can pray.
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And you can start
praying with 3ABN.
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I pray every
single morning for 3ABN.
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And I mentioned the people
that are actually working here.
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And then I just pray, Lord,
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I don't care if
they're cleaning,
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or they're behind the scenes
or in front of the camera.
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We only have a
little window of time
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to work for Jesus.
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He is coming so soon.
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And we know that soon
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that we won't be
able to do anything.
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And we're gonna wish,
00:52:13.80\00:52:15.13
"Oh, why didn't I
help when I could."
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So now start praying.
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Now is the time
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we have to step into the water.
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Watch Jesus part the river
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and watch souls come to
Him and work like never before,
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because Jesus
Christ is coming soon.
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And we want people
to look up and see Him
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in that cloud of glory.
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And we aren't
gonna have any regrets
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'cause we've
given Him 100% of us
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and that's when He will
bless like never before.
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Amen.
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Aunty Linda's
preaching a sermon.
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Praise the Lord.
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We're going to go to a
news break at this time
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and we'll come back
with some closing thoughts.
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