As you're well aware,
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we're living in
unprecedented times.
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Join us now for
Today special program.
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Removing pain
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Lord, let my words
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Heal a heart that hurts
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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Hello, I'm Shelley Quinn
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and we welcome
you to 3ABN Today.
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You will be very glad
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that you watched this program.
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Today, we're excited to announce
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that we have a new series.
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A series, I'm not
gonna tell you the title yet,
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but a series that
will sound an alarm,
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but also give a solution
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to a problem that is ubiquitous,
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it's everywhere.
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And this new series is
so relevant to our time.
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It is something that
is important for adults,
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for teenagers,
for young children.
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And it's
something you need to know.
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So we're so glad
that you've joined us.
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And let me
introduce you to someone
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that I've come to
love over the last
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as a brother in
Christ over the last week,
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just getting to know him better.
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And that is Scott Ritsema
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who is the host
of our new series,
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Digital Disconnect.
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Scott, we're so glad
that you're here today.
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Shelley, the feeling is
mutual when I'm at 3ABN,
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I feel like I
have come among family.
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And what a wonderful
time we've had this week
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with the
programs that God has led
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and opened the door
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and really inspired
us to seek solutions
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during these
really difficult times
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with our media use
and our kids' media use
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Digital Disconnect.
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Yes. And it's something that...
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just go ahead, we'll
tease to this just a little bit.
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Digital Disconnect,
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if you had to say,
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okay, this is what the series
is about in 50 words or less,
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what would you say
this series is about?
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Everywhere I go
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people are
saying the same thing.
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Our kids are
struggling with media.
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We don't seem to know
how to get a handle on it.
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So what is the true
nature of the problem
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and what are God's solutions
to our media addictions,
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our mental health crisis,
and our day to day struggles
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with finding the right balance
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in using media to God's glory
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and not getting
captured by the worldly media
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or the addictions of these days.
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Amen. And
addiction is a powerful word.
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It's not Scott's word.
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You are going to
see in this program,
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there are so many studies.
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What I appreciate about Scott is
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he's been doing
this for many years.
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He stays current,
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but there are
many industry studies.
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There are many psychiatrist
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and different
groups, medical groups.
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And even within
the industry itself
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who are
sounding an alarm saying,
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boy, we didn't expect this.
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There is not
just for the children.
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There is an
addictive element in it
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that absolutely
influences us too.
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Before we jump into this,
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Scott, I know how
much you love music.
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We know how much you love music.
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And today we
have with us Pat Koh,
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and she's on the piano.
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She will be
playing "Seek Ye First."
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Thank you, Pat.
That was beautiful.
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Well, if you're joining
us just a little late today,
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our special
guest is Scott Ritsema,
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who is the founder and director
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of Belt of Truth Ministries.
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But we've heard of
you, Scott, for so long,
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and you've actually been
here a couple of times before,
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but we've heard
of your teachings.
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So we were so excited
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to have you come
do this new series.
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Now, before we
get into the series
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and talk about that,
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let's let our
audience get to know you.
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Tell us a little
bit about growing up.
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Was it a Christian home?
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What kind of kid were you?
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I was blessed to grow
up to know the Lord Jesus.
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I grew up in a Christian home
and went to Christian school.
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And so I never remember life
without knowing of the Lord God
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and the creator God.
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Was it a Seventh-day
Adventist Christian home?
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I grew up in a
Christian reformed home.
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So it was Bible believing
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and came to a knowledge
of the seventh day Sabbath
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later in life,
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which was just an added blessing
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as I grew into a knowledge
of the truths for our time
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in these last days.
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But, you know, I remember
as a kid being told that,
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see the clouds up in the sky,
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you know, Jesus is gonna
come on the clouds of heaven.
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So I guess I've
always been an Adventist,
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believing in the advent.
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Okay.
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So what kind of a kid were you?
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Well, early on,
it was, all was good
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and teachers were happy
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with my participation in school.
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And so on teenage hood
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is where I got
in the wrong crowd
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and got involved
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with the wrong
types of activities
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and really went down
the road of rebellion
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against God's will in my life.
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And ironically,
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my theology was all twisted out.
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I thought that I was still saved
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and a Christian, even though
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I was just totally
living in rebellion against God
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and knowing that
I was open rebellion
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and the music I
was listening to.
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And so, I really
needed to have a repentance
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from that worldliness
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that I had gotten
into playing in a rock band
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and watching
whatever movies I wanted to.
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So, you know, a
lot of it was media.
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I think a lot of people's story
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when they get into worldliness
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is they need to
repent of their media use
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to really come
into a relationship
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with Jesus Christ
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and I wasn't
during, during those years.
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So it was a dark period in
terms of the spiritual life
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and praise God, He
can bring you out of,
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even several years
of that, that I was in.
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And He plucked
me out of the world.
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Yeah.
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I always tell
people when I rebelled,
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He chased me down.
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Exactly.
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So when did you really grow
into that personal connection
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that you have with the Lord.
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Now, when did you
become a Seventh-day Adventist?
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How did you become
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a Seventh-day
Adventist Christian?
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Those two
questions really do connect,
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that personal
relationship with Jesus Christ
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that deep love of God
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and wanting to serve Him
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with all my heart
and with all my life came
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at the same time
that I was coming into
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the Seventh-day
Adventist movement,
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because the
picture of God's love
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that was portrayed and given
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as I understood
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what's going on
between Christ and Satan
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and why is there evil
and pain and suffering
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in the universe?
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And is God all powerful
and all loving at the same time
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and helping to
sort out those questions
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of why is there
pain and suffering?
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And God has a solution
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and how the enemy
is the one responsible
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for the pain that exists,
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and then understanding
the nature of the second death
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and hell fire
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and what that really is
about and what it's not about.
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And so a picture of God's love
really was being revealed to me
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as I came to
understand Bible truth,
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as I understand it today.
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And that just
makes you love God more.
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Amen.
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So when you went to
college, your major was,
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you had a double major
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of history and
political science?
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History was the
degree in undergrad.
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And then in my
postgraduate, my master's,
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it was history,
political science, economics.
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And economics. Yeah.
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So I know you're
married three kids.
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Tell us a little
bit about the family?
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Oh, that's the fun part.
And then your early career?
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Yeah.
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My wife and I have three
kids, two boys and a girl.
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How old are they?
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They are nine
and seven and three.
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Okay.
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And, so we love being
outdoors together, gardening.
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We live in the
country, we're so blessed
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to homeschool our kids
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and just be able
to be together a lot.
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And they say hello
by the way, to you,
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they missed
seeing you this time.
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But early
career I was a teacher.
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I taught high school,
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I taught history,
government economics.
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And that was a great joy.
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I still, am
interested in history
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and things that
pertain to current events
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and political science issues.
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So got into teaching Bible
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later on in my teaching career.
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And that was around the time
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that I was coming to
a knowledge of the truth
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as I understand it today,
the truth as it is in Jesus.
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So that was a great joy
to be able to teach Bible
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at an academy level.
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And so that was the,
I guess what you'd say,
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the early career.
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I love the story that you shared
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during the
production of the series
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when you were telling
about being in Israel.
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Tell that real quick
about the children being told.
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Okay.
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At the very last
minute, no media, tell us that?
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Yeah. Okay.
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So the music teacher takes
the students on a music tour,
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a mission trip.
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He's there planning the event
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and it's gonna be
over spring break.
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And then another
week, and well Scott,
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would you like to come?
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You're the Bible teacher.
You can do chaplain duties.
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Would I like to
come, it was Ireland.
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Wow.
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My wife's always
wanted to see Ireland.
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Can she come?
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And so we'll have an
experience serving God together
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in that beautiful country.
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Well, the music teacher
broke it to the students
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about a week before
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you're not bringing your phones.
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And they had almost a revolt,
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because you know,
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we're so
addicted to these devices.
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These young
people could not live.
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They could not live
without their phones.
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How we're gonna
call our parents.
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Well, we'll have a
device, we'll have one phone.
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Everybody can take
turns, call their parents on it.
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And so anyway,
they went on the trip.
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We had a fabulous
time, wonderful time
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ministering in the
country of Ireland, singing.
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The students
sang beautiful music
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in beautiful places.
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And there were
miracles that we witnessed.
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And then at the end we had
a little debriefing session.
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Everybody sits in a
circle and we talk about
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how God has blessed and
how we've grown together
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and grown closer to Him
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and students are sharing,
raise your hand and share,
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you know, what
do you appreciate?
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What most stands out to you?
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And I couldn't believe it,
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after all the amazing
things we went through.
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The number one comment
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that I heard again
and again from students
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and not the only comment,
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but it was the
most frequent thing
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they said was
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Mr. Kay, we thank you
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that you made us
keep our phones at home.
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So after that,
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it's like you
come out of the grip
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of that addictive cycle,
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where you're in that
anxiety and fear of missing out
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as they call it on social media,
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you have smartphone
loss anxiety disorder,
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as they call it in
science publications.
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And they get a couple of
weeks to just detox from it.
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And they are so appreciative
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that you took that away
from them for their good
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and you grow together.
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They said, we, we,
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our relationships
are better deeper.
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We feel like we have more fun.
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And we're not all
sitting on our phones
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doing our own thing.
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That's fabulous.
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Now is this are
instances like this,
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and I haven't
asked you this yet,
00:14:43.35\00:14:44.91
but how did you make a switch
from being a history teacher,
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a Bible teacher
00:14:51.89\00:14:53.32
into the Belt
of Truth Ministries
00:14:53.36\00:14:56.99
that you founded?
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Was the impetus in part
00:14:58.66\00:15:02.66
for the Media
on the Brain series
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that Scott does?
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Was this from your
experience with young people?
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Absolutely because
I saw my own students
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just getting deeper and deeper
into the problems of media
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and, you know, I
promote media use,
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we're using media now.
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Our ministry is in the
media production ministry.
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We have, we do DVDs and stuff.
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So it wasn't like
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we shouldn't be
utilizing screens and tools
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to God's glory.
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You know, that
would be a problem
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equivalent to
the problem we face
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if we weren't preaching
the gospel using media.
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So, but I did see
them in worldly media
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and just negative
dynamics and cycles
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that they were
finding themselves in.
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So I wanted to share with them
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and I was gathering information,
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pulling information
together to share with them.
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And so that actually
one thing leads to another
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and local pastors are asking
me to preach on the same topic
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'cause all the families
and all of us need this,
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it's not just the young people.
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And then that
leads to camp meetings
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at the conference level,
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and then many churches that
were at the camp meeting say,
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can you do the seminar for us?
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Can you do the seminar for us?
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So Media on the
Brain, as you mentioned,
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was birthed out
of that experience
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of ministering to young people
and seeing their own needs.
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And people become liberated
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by information
that is empowering.
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It's not condemning,
it's not preaching at them.
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It's, you know, this is the,
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these are the
effects of this media,
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scientifically, factually,
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and here are the tools
and the choices we can make
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to break free from that.
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So it was a great joy
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to go into
full-time speaking ministry
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on the heels of that.
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You know, and I believe you
said 376 churches before COVID?
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Yes. Can you believe that?
00:16:31.49\00:16:32.85
He spoke at 376
churches before COVID struck,
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if I'll say struck.
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And now you do
some virtual seminars
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and camp meetings and things.
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Tell us just a little bit
00:16:47.67\00:16:50.21
about your Media on the
Brain and you started that 2012?
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Yep. Okay.
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Yeah, 2012.
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I mean, we were
already deep into it
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as far as, you know,
social media smartphones,
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but mainly Media on the Brain
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was focusing on the worldliness
of the entertainment industry.
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And so it was, you
know, we wanna be sanctified.
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We wanna...
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The Bible says come
apart and be separate,
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saith the Lord,
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touch no unclean thing
and I will receive you.
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And it also
warns us in Romans 12
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that we should not be
conformed to this world,
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but we can have the
joy of being transformed
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by the renewing of our minds.
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Amen.
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And so, that's not
some legalistic standard,
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that's a joy to step
into that newness of life
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and find the
freedom from the need to,
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and that's my own
personal testimony,
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the need to watch the game.
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I know, I can't miss
the latest soap opera
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or whatever it is
you might be into.
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That's a freedom, right?
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And so Media on the
Brain was more focused
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on finding freedom
from the worldly media.
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Okay.
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As the years went on,
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as I'm preaching
that at churches,
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2012, '13, '14, '15, '16,
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the smartphones are
becoming taking more of a hold
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and social media
being a bigger deal,
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video game addiction deepening,
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child development
being affected even more,
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and a lot more
research and studies being done
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on the effects of media
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that hadn't been
done yet in 2012.
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So there was just a
need to continue it,
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you know, at first I thought,
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hey, we'll do this media seminar
00:18:13.86\00:18:15.19
for a little while
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and people are waking up
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and they're gonna get it, right?
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Well, not so, the
culture just kept getting
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more and more immersed
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and mental health consequences
started manifesting themselves.
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So yeah, that
kind of brought us up
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to more recent years.
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Okay. And that
series was Media Mind?
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Oh, yeah. In
2019, The Media Mind.
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The Media Mind.
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I didn't intend to do
a second series on media.
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It's like, you
know, we covered it,
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but it's there still
with so much information
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coming out in those years
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about the harmful effects
00:18:44.99\00:18:46.32
and the big tech Titans
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and the engineers in
Silicon Valley themselves
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coming out and saying,
00:18:51.49\00:18:52.83
you know, we
don't do it that way
00:18:52.86\00:18:54.20
in our homes with our children
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and several whistleblowers
coming out of that industry,
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just a whole lot more
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that really needed to
be delivered to people,
00:19:00.84\00:19:02.17
to give us that
stronger, wakeup call
00:19:02.20\00:19:03.87
that we can raise the standard
and find more joy in Christ.
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You know, we have in
our pastoral department,
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I think they get calls.
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I know weekly
probably more often than that,
00:19:11.81\00:19:14.38
but people are calling,
saying my child has changed.
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My child is
really into video games.
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They have become rebellious.
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They won't do this
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or their schoolwork is suffering
00:19:24.13\00:19:27.33
and it's not, you
know, we think of gamers,
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people who are
spending sometimes 24 hours
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or longer on a video game.
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But what is interesting
00:19:38.11\00:19:41.34
is we see that
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even I will confess,
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I gave my niece when she was,
00:19:45.71\00:19:48.42
I think it was her
when she was nine years old,
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I got, I was looking for a toy.
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I wanted to be educational.
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And I bought her an educational,
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I won't say the name of it,
00:19:58.36\00:19:59.69
but it's a little
kind of like an iPad.
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And it was promoted
as, this is so wonderful.
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That Christmas Eve,
that Christmas night,
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she was in her bed early.
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I mean, she wasn't in bed.
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She was laying on her
bed and she was on that.
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And I went in and
tried to interact with her.
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She was a different child.
00:20:19.98\00:20:21.55
She wouldn't look up, she
wouldn't give eye contact.
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And I thought what have I done.
00:20:24.65\00:20:27.32
Now, we know from the statistics
00:20:27.36\00:20:31.73
we know from things
that are being published
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in scientific journals,
00:20:34.00\00:20:35.90
there is a true
problem with addiction,
00:20:35.93\00:20:40.10
addiction to iPhones,
addiction to the internet,
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addiction to social media,
00:20:43.20\00:20:45.71
and it tearing at
the fabric of society.
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Absolutely.
00:20:49.54\00:20:50.88
But this is one of the reasons
00:20:50.91\00:20:52.25
we decided to do
Digital Disconnect,
00:20:52.28\00:20:56.52
not as he said in
a condemnatory way,
00:20:56.55\00:21:00.16
but in a way to show
you, there's joy in life.
00:21:00.19\00:21:04.73
So let's talk a little
about the series itself?
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Yeah.
00:21:08.26\00:21:09.60
The first five programs
kind of are grouped together,
00:21:09.63\00:21:13.07
and these programs are
titled how to be human again.
00:21:13.10\00:21:17.41
The hearts of the children,
media and the child brain,
00:21:17.44\00:21:21.61
anti-social media.
00:21:21.64\00:21:24.25
And this is your brain on media.
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Give us for
those who are watching,
00:21:27.25\00:21:29.78
why would they wanna
watch Digital Disconnect?
00:21:29.82\00:21:32.55
What are they going to learn
00:21:32.59\00:21:34.72
about how media
affects children?
00:21:34.76\00:21:37.43
They're gonna learn a ton.
00:21:37.46\00:21:38.79
In fact, if there's a
fault in my presentation,
00:21:38.83\00:21:40.90
style is too much,
00:21:40.93\00:21:42.76
but I just really want people
00:21:42.80\00:21:44.13
to have the full
quantity of information
00:21:44.17\00:21:45.70
that we can get through
00:21:45.73\00:21:47.07
'cause it's not just
somebody's opinion, right?
00:21:47.10\00:21:48.44
It's not old some
speculative thing.
00:21:48.47\00:21:50.54
It is, as you
mentioned, scientific journals
00:21:50.57\00:21:52.37
quotes from the industry.
00:21:52.41\00:21:53.91
When you get into this
as your Brain on Media,
00:21:53.94\00:21:55.94
that was the
last one you mentioned
00:21:55.98\00:21:57.31
that program number five
00:21:57.35\00:21:58.68
and the
addictive aspects of these,
00:21:58.71\00:22:00.15
the diagnostic
and statistical manual
00:22:00.18\00:22:02.02
of the psychiatry community
00:22:02.05\00:22:03.69
labels media addictions.
00:22:03.72\00:22:05.45
And so that's something
that's accepted in the industry.
00:22:05.49\00:22:07.39
It's not rhetoric
00:22:07.42\00:22:08.76
or somebody
using flowery language.
00:22:08.79\00:22:10.43
It's a real serious problem.
00:22:10.46\00:22:11.79
There are so many
scholars, researchers,
00:22:11.83\00:22:14.30
child development
experts, industry insiders,
00:22:14.33\00:22:16.67
who are saying the same thing.
00:22:16.70\00:22:18.13
So when we hear them say it,
00:22:18.17\00:22:19.50
then it's not just somebody
and their idea, you know.
00:22:19.53\00:22:23.61
I've got kids, so I
think everybody wants
00:22:23.64\00:22:26.44
what's best for the children.
00:22:26.47\00:22:28.64
And that's kinda what
really tugs at our hearts first
00:22:28.68\00:22:30.88
and foremost of all.
00:22:30.91\00:22:32.28
I mean, we could all
make changes in our media.
00:22:32.31\00:22:33.85
We could all do experiments
and try something different
00:22:33.88\00:22:36.79
and see if the way
that our mind works
00:22:36.82\00:22:38.45
changes the whole work.
00:22:38.49\00:22:39.82
The whole crew...
00:22:39.85\00:22:41.19
I have to tell you, the
whole crew, me included,
00:22:41.22\00:22:42.56
everybody is sitting
there and listening to you
00:22:42.59\00:22:44.43
as you're
recording these programs,
00:22:44.46\00:22:46.16
and then people are going
well, I'm under conviction,
00:22:46.19\00:22:48.73
I'm under conviction.
00:22:48.76\00:22:50.10
Yep, I'm under conviction too.
00:22:50.13\00:22:52.17
So when you talk about
it is really an addiction.
00:22:52.20\00:22:57.34
What kind of
effect does this have
00:22:57.37\00:23:01.38
this constant internet,
00:23:01.41\00:23:02.74
it's the constant
being on the phone
00:23:02.78\00:23:05.11
and even social media
has really become a big one.
00:23:05.15\00:23:09.38
What effect does
this have on the brain?
00:23:09.42\00:23:12.89
And particularly
in the social aspect,
00:23:12.92\00:23:15.36
how does that affect children?
00:23:15.39\00:23:17.33
Well, if you talk
about the brain regions,
00:23:17.36\00:23:18.86
we're looking at a lower
prefrontal cortex function
00:23:18.89\00:23:22.06
because of the over stimulating
effect of these media
00:23:22.10\00:23:24.70
on the developing
brains of children
00:23:24.73\00:23:26.84
and an overactive limbic system,
00:23:26.87\00:23:28.80
which is going to
lead to more problems
00:23:28.84\00:23:30.71
along with self-regulation
00:23:30.74\00:23:32.61
of behavior of mood, outburst,
00:23:32.64\00:23:35.24
the lizard brain, exactly
more animalistic outbursts
00:23:35.28\00:23:38.48
and emotional, and
even lustful the appetites.
00:23:38.51\00:23:41.45
And we all have that.
00:23:41.48\00:23:42.82
So when we talk
about the child's brain
00:23:42.85\00:23:44.69
and the effects on
the developing brain,
00:23:44.72\00:23:46.82
it's especially
pronounced for them.
00:23:46.86\00:23:49.39
And they're at
critical windows of development
00:23:49.42\00:23:51.46
where you don't want
to disrupt and interrupt
00:23:51.49\00:23:53.36
what's supposed to
be developing properly
00:23:53.40\00:23:55.16
in the right balance,
00:23:55.20\00:23:56.53
but in a way, all of our
brains are developing, right?
00:23:56.56\00:23:58.57
Because they're always changing.
00:23:58.60\00:24:00.30
Every thought we
think, every word we say,
00:24:00.34\00:24:02.37
every program we watched
00:24:02.40\00:24:03.74
like this, or a worldly one,
00:24:03.77\00:24:05.17
or what we read if we
read this book or that book,
00:24:05.21\00:24:08.21
the way we think,
the choices we make,
00:24:08.24\00:24:10.51
all our reacting
back upon our own brain
00:24:10.55\00:24:13.45
and forming our characters.
00:24:13.48\00:24:15.02
So when you ask
00:24:15.05\00:24:16.38
how it affects
the child's brain,
00:24:16.42\00:24:18.05
it's going to do
that to all of us,
00:24:18.09\00:24:19.69
maybe to a lesser
extent than the children,
00:24:19.72\00:24:21.66
but then it will manifest
in behaviors and emotions
00:24:21.69\00:24:25.16
and mental health conditions
00:24:25.19\00:24:27.10
that you might not
have known were the cause,
00:24:27.13\00:24:28.76
were caused by the media
00:24:28.80\00:24:30.13
or impacted in
part by the media.
00:24:30.17\00:24:32.87
Depression is one
of the first things
00:24:32.90\00:24:34.24
people notice.
00:24:34.27\00:24:35.60
An addict to anything,
00:24:35.64\00:24:36.97
if you're addicted to anything,
00:24:37.01\00:24:38.34
it increases depression.
00:24:38.37\00:24:40.61
We talk about attention span,
00:24:40.64\00:24:42.64
remember the
Time Magazine article,
00:24:42.68\00:24:44.21
you have a
shorter attention span
00:24:44.25\00:24:45.58
than a goldfish.
00:24:45.61\00:24:46.95
We'll get into
that in the series.
00:24:46.98\00:24:48.32
But that's a function of
lower prefrontal cortex ability,
00:24:48.35\00:24:53.25
lower attention span.
00:24:53.29\00:24:54.96
We're seeing skyrocketing
rates of stress and anxiety
00:24:54.99\00:24:59.79
and all of these different
mental health conditions
00:24:59.83\00:25:02.13
that are diagnosed
in psychiatry circles.
00:25:02.16\00:25:05.23
But also people
have subclinical level.
00:25:05.27\00:25:07.70
You know, I just feel low.
00:25:07.74\00:25:09.34
I don't qualify
for an addiction.
00:25:09.37\00:25:10.91
I'm not seeing a specialist.
00:25:10.94\00:25:12.27
You know, I
don't have depression,
00:25:12.31\00:25:13.64
but maybe I'm feeling
lower than I otherwise would
00:25:13.68\00:25:16.71
if I wasn't on social
media three hours a day, right?
00:25:16.75\00:25:19.81
Or if the child wasn't
playing that video game
00:25:19.85\00:25:21.72
for an hour a day?
00:25:21.75\00:25:23.08
So it takes its toll measurably,
00:25:23.12\00:25:25.32
and everybody
sees it anecdotally,
00:25:25.35\00:25:27.16
you saw it in your
niece in one night.
00:25:27.19\00:25:28.86
I mean, that's quite something.
00:25:28.89\00:25:30.49
Or you mentioned the social.
00:25:30.53\00:25:31.86
You said, especially socially.
00:25:31.89\00:25:33.33
That's a big one.
00:25:33.36\00:25:34.70
I mean, I've talked
to daycare professionals
00:25:34.73\00:25:36.20
and I've looked at researchers
00:25:36.23\00:25:37.67
who interviewed
preschool teachers
00:25:37.70\00:25:39.13
and the data is coming in
00:25:39.17\00:25:40.50
and probably the most
significant effect on children
00:25:40.54\00:25:43.71
is a lowering in their
emotional intelligence.
00:25:43.74\00:25:46.44
That's the sociability,
00:25:46.47\00:25:47.81
the eye contact,
00:25:47.84\00:25:49.18
the language of verbal,
nonverbal communications
00:25:49.21\00:25:51.51
is being lost on a generation
that stares at a screen
00:25:51.55\00:25:54.38
instead of seeing
the face of mother
00:25:54.42\00:25:56.12
and the babysitter
00:25:56.15\00:25:57.72
being the screen
00:25:57.75\00:25:59.09
and the devices
captivating their attention,
00:25:59.12\00:26:01.29
not just hyper
stimulating the brain
00:26:01.32\00:26:03.09
and affecting it
in all those ways,
00:26:03.12\00:26:04.66
but it's what
they're not getting.
00:26:04.69\00:26:06.80
When they're on the screen,
00:26:06.83\00:26:08.16
they're not
getting the interaction
00:26:08.20\00:26:09.53
with mom and dad,
with grandma and grandpa
00:26:09.56\00:26:11.13
with kind of life we
used to live socially.
00:26:11.17\00:26:13.84
That's why we call
it anti-social media
00:26:13.87\00:26:15.60
in episode four,
00:26:15.64\00:26:16.97
because these types of
devices really do reduce
00:26:17.01\00:26:20.31
the ability of children
00:26:20.34\00:26:21.71
to engage socially, emotionally.
00:26:21.74\00:26:23.45
The Bible says the
love of many will wax cold
00:26:23.48\00:26:26.58
in the last days.
00:26:26.61\00:26:27.95
So I guess you could say
00:26:27.98\00:26:29.32
that's a fulfillment of prophecy
00:26:29.35\00:26:30.69
'cause the ability to empathize
00:26:30.72\00:26:32.05
and feel other people's feelings
00:26:32.09\00:26:33.42
is a form of love.
00:26:33.46\00:26:34.79
And, you know, Scott,
00:26:34.82\00:26:36.16
my husband and I were in Dallas
00:26:36.19\00:26:37.53
a few years back
at Christmas time
00:26:37.56\00:26:39.76
in the mall
00:26:39.79\00:26:41.16
and the three young girls,
00:26:41.20\00:26:42.60
probably all
around the age of 16
00:26:42.63\00:26:45.13
walked past us.
00:26:45.17\00:26:46.70
And two of them are laughing
and having the best time
00:26:46.74\00:26:49.54
and the other little
girl's on social media.
00:26:49.57\00:26:53.14
And so I said, bless her heart.
00:26:53.17\00:26:56.08
She's artificially connected.
00:26:56.11\00:26:58.51
She thinks she's connected.
00:26:58.55\00:26:59.98
She's missing
out on all this fun
00:27:00.02\00:27:02.25
'cause she's like this.
00:27:02.28\00:27:03.69
Well about almost an hour later,
00:27:03.72\00:27:06.45
same little group
of girls passes by,
00:27:06.49\00:27:09.72
the other two girls
00:27:09.76\00:27:11.09
are just practically
slapping their thigh.
00:27:11.13\00:27:14.00
They're laughing so hard.
00:27:14.03\00:27:15.46
And the one girl is like this.
00:27:15.50\00:27:17.27
Yeah.
00:27:17.30\00:27:19.93
I do believe,
00:27:19.97\00:27:21.64
I've talked with a lot of people
00:27:21.67\00:27:23.54
who have gone on a media fast
00:27:23.57\00:27:26.84
and it has made a big difference
00:27:26.88\00:27:28.74
in a growing up slide.
00:27:28.78\00:27:30.11
Absolutely.
00:27:30.15\00:27:31.48
But you're quoting
from industry experts
00:27:31.51\00:27:36.28
who are prescribing for children
00:27:36.32\00:27:39.02
with ADHD, anxiety, depression,
00:27:39.05\00:27:42.39
they prescribe a media fast.
00:27:42.42\00:27:45.53
And what happens?
00:27:45.56\00:27:46.93
Dr. Victoria Dunckley,
professional psychiatrist.
00:27:46.96\00:27:49.46
She gets hundreds of
children and adolescents
00:27:49.50\00:27:51.50
comes to her practice
00:27:51.53\00:27:52.87
and she's
treated hundreds of them
00:27:52.90\00:27:54.40
with a media fast
00:27:54.44\00:27:55.94
to see how their mental
health conditions might resolve.
00:27:55.97\00:27:58.84
Three weeks of a
completely screen-free life
00:27:58.87\00:28:01.98
for these children.
00:28:02.01\00:28:03.35
It is strict,
three weeks, no media,
00:28:03.38\00:28:05.15
not even good media
used for good purposes.
00:28:05.18\00:28:07.22
We're just getting off of
it entirely for three weeks.
00:28:07.25\00:28:09.95
And then after that,
00:28:09.98\00:28:11.32
we can see what kind of
things we can add back in.
00:28:11.35\00:28:12.89
It's the program
that she puts them on.
00:28:12.92\00:28:15.16
Eighty percent of
her children and youth
00:28:15.19\00:28:18.26
who are diagnosed with
mental health disorders.
00:28:18.29\00:28:20.40
So these are the hardest cases.
00:28:20.43\00:28:22.10
Eighty percent of them
00:28:22.13\00:28:23.47
have the majority of
their symptoms disappear.
00:28:23.50\00:28:25.47
And half of them have
all their symptoms disappear.
00:28:25.50\00:28:28.24
It is truly amazing.
00:28:28.27\00:28:29.60
And so, it's no surprise
that the tech executives
00:28:29.64\00:28:33.17
and the
engineers in Silicon Valley
00:28:33.21\00:28:35.84
who know how these
devices are affecting children,
00:28:35.88\00:28:38.45
particularly the
interactive screen time,
00:28:38.48\00:28:40.48
the iPad games, the video games,
00:28:40.52\00:28:42.15
the playing on the phone,
00:28:42.18\00:28:43.72
they said to a person almost
00:28:43.75\00:28:46.19
it's a consensus
in Silicon Valley,
00:28:46.22\00:28:48.12
according to one
New York Times report
00:28:48.16\00:28:49.69
where they looked into this.
00:28:49.72\00:28:51.29
These people, who
are making the apps,
00:28:51.33\00:28:53.83
making the devices,
00:28:53.86\00:28:55.20
making these addictive platforms
00:28:55.23\00:28:57.43
don't have their
children on them.
00:28:57.47\00:28:59.57
Some of them famous names
who came out in interviews
00:28:59.60\00:29:01.64
and said the same thing,
but it's not just the biggest,
00:29:01.67\00:29:04.17
most famous people.
00:29:04.21\00:29:05.57
It's the people my age
who have kids who are the,
00:29:05.61\00:29:07.61
you know, tech gurus,
00:29:07.64\00:29:09.24
the wizards of
digital pharmakia,
00:29:09.28\00:29:11.21
who are crafting
these concoctions for us,
00:29:11.25\00:29:13.35
that their children
aren't touching the devices,
00:29:13.38\00:29:15.92
their daycare providers,
00:29:15.95\00:29:17.79
their nannies rather
are signing contracts,
00:29:17.82\00:29:19.65
You know, I will not,
00:29:19.69\00:29:21.02
you will not have
my kid on a device,
00:29:21.06\00:29:22.79
give them the Play-Doh,
get in the sandbox and that.
00:29:22.82\00:29:25.56
Nor will you be on a
device in front of my child.
00:29:25.59\00:29:28.26
Exactly 'cause it's
second hand screen time,
00:29:28.30\00:29:29.90
you understand.
00:29:29.93\00:29:31.27
A secondhand
smoke, isn't it? Yeah.
00:29:31.30\00:29:32.67
That's amazing.
00:29:32.70\00:29:34.04
But you know what?
00:29:34.07\00:29:35.40
I remember reading that
00:29:35.44\00:29:36.77
and what surprised me
in Silicon Valley was that
00:29:36.81\00:29:40.71
in their high schools,
00:29:40.74\00:29:43.45
they were so limited
to their computer access,
00:29:43.48\00:29:48.55
their internet access.
00:29:48.58\00:29:50.59
And now they've
done studies to show that
00:29:50.62\00:29:54.99
actually there's a difference
00:29:55.02\00:29:57.23
between electronic reading
00:29:57.26\00:29:59.69
and reading
where you turn a page
00:29:59.73\00:30:03.16
and it affects your
cognitive ability even.
00:30:03.20\00:30:05.57
Tell us about
that? It sure does.
00:30:05.60\00:30:07.10
We get into that in number 10,
00:30:07.14\00:30:08.47
episode 10 of
Digital Disconnect,
00:30:08.50\00:30:10.67
people of the book
in the age of the app,
00:30:10.71\00:30:13.27
that's also pulling
from the Media Mind Series,
00:30:13.31\00:30:15.74
but we get into the
question of you just raised it,
00:30:15.78\00:30:19.51
same text on a
screen versus a book.
00:30:19.55\00:30:22.48
The reading comprehension
is superior in the book.
00:30:22.52\00:30:25.45
They get
deeper, more analytical,
00:30:25.49\00:30:27.26
critical thinking,
engaged in the brain
00:30:27.29\00:30:29.39
when you're turning pages
00:30:29.42\00:30:30.76
and you're in
that analog version,
00:30:30.79\00:30:32.66
you know, the old school,
00:30:32.69\00:30:34.03
the way we have
trained our brains
00:30:34.06\00:30:35.53
to read on digital platforms
00:30:35.56\00:30:38.10
is we are actually
better fact chasers on there.
00:30:38.13\00:30:40.80
So there's an advantage.
We don't toss it all out.
00:30:40.84\00:30:43.10
You'll see, some
of my information
00:30:43.14\00:30:44.51
in the series is quoting
00:30:44.54\00:30:45.87
from books I've read
00:30:45.91\00:30:47.24
and some of it is
quoting from online articles
00:30:47.28\00:30:48.61
that I've searched out,
00:30:48.64\00:30:49.98
and great I like the
internet, but kids in school,
00:30:50.01\00:30:53.68
the Silicon Valley people
are sending them to the schools
00:30:53.72\00:30:56.32
that prohibit
educational technology
00:30:56.35\00:30:58.82
until older ages.
00:30:58.85\00:31:00.26
Yes. Okay.
00:31:00.29\00:31:02.02
So now let's talk a
little bit about transform,
00:31:02.06\00:31:05.59
because I wanna say something,
00:31:05.63\00:31:07.76
I just wanna keep
making this point.
00:31:07.80\00:31:10.50
There is nothing negative
about Digital Disconnect.
00:31:10.53\00:31:14.37
Amen.
00:31:14.40\00:31:15.74
Scott, you are a
dynamic and anointed speaker,
00:31:15.77\00:31:19.07
glory to God,
00:31:19.11\00:31:20.48
but what he's focusing
on is the joy of the Lord,
00:31:20.51\00:31:25.11
bringing people back
into the joy of the Lord.
00:31:25.15\00:31:28.75
And episode number six
00:31:28.78\00:31:31.02
is transformed by the
renewing of our minds.
00:31:31.05\00:31:36.42
Talk to us about that?
00:31:36.46\00:31:37.83
Well, it kind of
connects with episode one,
00:31:37.86\00:31:39.63
how to be human again.
00:31:39.66\00:31:41.00
You know, God created
Adam and Eve in the garden.
00:31:41.03\00:31:43.40
He created us with a
certain design template
00:31:43.43\00:31:46.03
for our brains and
bodies and social interactions
00:31:46.07\00:31:48.34
and spiritual interactions
00:31:48.37\00:31:49.84
and how we will
thrive, how we can know Him,
00:31:49.87\00:31:53.21
how we can walk with Jesus,
00:31:53.24\00:31:54.74
how we can be in the
family and in the church
00:31:54.78\00:31:57.18
and have all of
God's designed for living
00:31:57.21\00:31:59.21
that can be
restored and renewed.
00:31:59.25\00:32:01.45
In fact, one of my favorite
definitions of redemption
00:32:01.48\00:32:04.19
that Jesus brought out
00:32:04.22\00:32:05.55
in His perfect
life that He lived
00:32:05.59\00:32:07.32
and His
sacrificial death on the cross
00:32:07.36\00:32:09.16
and His present work
in the heavenly sanctuary
00:32:09.19\00:32:11.79
redemption can be summed up
00:32:11.83\00:32:13.33
with all of the
merits of Christ,
00:32:13.36\00:32:14.93
restoring the
image of God in man.
00:32:14.96\00:32:17.53
Amen.
00:32:17.57\00:32:18.90
And so we can get back
00:32:18.93\00:32:20.27
to how to be
human as God designed it
00:32:20.30\00:32:21.97
in this digital age,
00:32:22.00\00:32:23.44
where we have
become so subsumed.
00:32:23.47\00:32:25.97
I mean the average person
00:32:26.01\00:32:27.34
touches tabs and
swipes their device
00:32:27.38\00:32:28.81
2,316 times per day.
00:32:28.84\00:32:31.68
Let me stop
because you know what?
00:32:31.71\00:32:33.52
I'd never heard
the word subsumed.
00:32:33.55\00:32:35.68
I heard consumed,
exhumed you name, assumed.
00:32:35.72\00:32:39.19
Subsumed means that
00:32:39.22\00:32:40.86
you are just
basically drawn into absorbed
00:32:40.89\00:32:45.43
into something else.
00:32:45.46\00:32:46.80
You're immersed in it.
00:32:46.83\00:32:48.16
And that's what
happens with people on that.
00:32:48.20\00:32:51.40
Take the video game
addict, he's on there all night.
00:32:51.43\00:32:54.54
What is it about
that virtual place
00:32:54.57\00:32:57.57
where he's being
inducted, invited,
00:32:57.61\00:33:00.98
enticed into a
counterfeit reality
00:33:01.01\00:33:04.31
for 40 hours a week.
00:33:04.35\00:33:05.68
Five million
Americans are playing
00:33:05.71\00:33:07.28
40 hours of video games a week.
00:33:07.32\00:33:08.68
That's amazing.
00:33:08.72\00:33:10.05
But they, you know, I've
heard brain scientists say
00:33:10.09\00:33:13.05
they were hired
to make it addictive.
00:33:13.09\00:33:15.19
It was
purposely addictive. Yeah.
00:33:15.22\00:33:17.39
Well, I quote
industry insiders in the series
00:33:17.43\00:33:19.79
who video games
designers themselves,
00:33:19.83\00:33:22.06
who will not play
several of the video games,
00:33:22.10\00:33:23.83
'cause they know
how addictive it is.
00:33:23.87\00:33:25.37
They know the
industry is designed
00:33:25.40\00:33:27.04
just like the casinos where,
00:33:27.07\00:33:28.40
I mean, this is
a massive scandal.
00:33:28.44\00:33:30.07
One famous video
game designer said
00:33:30.11\00:33:31.87
the video game industry
00:33:31.91\00:33:33.24
is the
cigarettes of this century.
00:33:33.27\00:33:34.94
Meaning it's the
scandal waiting to break.
00:33:34.98\00:33:36.81
And we all look back and
go what were we thinking?
00:33:36.85\00:33:39.31
But the good news is
transformed, you asked,
00:33:39.35\00:33:41.68
I didn't really get to that.
00:33:41.72\00:33:43.22
We can be transformed,
00:33:43.25\00:33:44.59
everything we've
done bad to our brains,
00:33:44.62\00:33:47.26
God can renew.
00:33:47.29\00:33:48.76
And so that's the hope
and the promise and the,
00:33:48.79\00:33:51.33
and it's not just a long shot,
00:33:51.36\00:33:53.23
you know, it's
not just a pipe dream,
00:33:53.26\00:33:54.83
it's a scientific reality.
00:33:54.86\00:33:56.80
And, of course, a
spiritual biblical promise
00:33:56.83\00:33:59.30
that when we return
to God's way for living,
00:33:59.33\00:34:01.64
when we try something else,
00:34:01.67\00:34:03.67
we will find the fruits of it
00:34:03.71\00:34:05.61
will be maybe what we
never thought and imagined.
00:34:05.64\00:34:08.71
I mean, when you see these kids
00:34:08.74\00:34:10.15
that go on a media fast
00:34:10.18\00:34:11.81
and their parents
just throw up their hands,
00:34:11.85\00:34:13.18
what are we gonna do with them?
00:34:13.21\00:34:14.55
And then they're transformed.
00:34:14.58\00:34:15.92
I mean, we've had
people write to us
00:34:15.95\00:34:17.29
like our kids are
in this dark place
00:34:17.32\00:34:19.45
and we encourage
them to do the media fast.
00:34:19.49\00:34:22.02
And here's the program.
00:34:22.06\00:34:23.39
Here's how you
can do your evenings.
00:34:23.43\00:34:24.76
And three weeks later,
00:34:24.79\00:34:26.39
one month later,
two months later,
00:34:26.43\00:34:27.76
people are saying,
you've got a whole new kid
00:34:27.80\00:34:29.76
and it's just getting
the right balance in there
00:34:29.80\00:34:32.07
and the spiritual power.
00:34:32.10\00:34:33.57
You know, you think about
what Paul wrote, Romans 12:2,
00:34:33.60\00:34:36.14
"Do not be transformed to the...
00:34:36.17\00:34:39.81
I mean, do not be
conformed to this world,
00:34:39.84\00:34:41.88
but be transformed by
the renewing of your mind."
00:34:41.91\00:34:46.11
Amen.
00:34:46.15\00:34:47.48
And I guarantee you,
00:34:47.52\00:34:48.85
there's nothing that
better renews the mind
00:34:48.88\00:34:52.15
than the biblical truth of God.
00:34:52.19\00:34:54.02
Absolutely.
00:34:54.06\00:34:55.39
Let's talk about, we got
into a couple of programs,
00:34:55.42\00:34:57.86
media manipulation,
00:34:57.89\00:35:00.56
and the high
priests of a new religion.
00:35:00.60\00:35:03.67
Let's talk about
that for a minute?
00:35:03.70\00:35:05.03
That's the heavy stuff.
00:35:05.07\00:35:06.40
It gets pretty
intense at that point.
00:35:06.43\00:35:07.77
If you thought the
first ones are heavy,
00:35:07.80\00:35:09.14
those turn out to be light.
00:35:09.17\00:35:10.67
But you know, even
before I answer that,
00:35:10.71\00:35:12.17
one of the things,
00:35:12.21\00:35:13.54
when you talk
about the media fast
00:35:13.58\00:35:14.91
and the renewing of the brain
00:35:14.94\00:35:16.28
is not just
getting rid of things
00:35:16.31\00:35:18.31
and what you're not doing,
00:35:18.35\00:35:20.08
but making sure
to fill our lives
00:35:20.12\00:35:23.18
and fill our children's lives
00:35:23.22\00:35:25.19
to the brim and overflowing
with all the good stuff.
00:35:25.22\00:35:29.16
So I never would want to
just leave the impression
00:35:29.19\00:35:30.83
that just removing
something so we got...
00:35:30.86\00:35:32.59
And what some of the good stuff
00:35:32.63\00:35:33.96
that parents are
sitting out there saying what?
00:35:34.00\00:35:35.46
Relationships,
nature, service, books, music,
00:35:35.50\00:35:41.44
entrepreneurial endeavors,
cooking, building things,
00:35:41.47\00:35:46.01
kids doing their chores,
00:35:46.04\00:35:47.38
getting outside, climbing trees.
00:35:47.41\00:35:48.81
Kids being kids.
Yeah, being kids.
00:35:48.84\00:35:50.61
The average 11 year old
today has never climbed a tree
00:35:50.65\00:35:52.75
or the majority of 11 year olds
00:35:52.78\00:35:54.12
have never
climbed a tree in the UK.
00:35:54.15\00:35:55.92
That blew my mind.
00:35:55.95\00:35:57.29
Now, I'm sorry, I didn't answer.
00:35:57.32\00:35:58.65
I gotta get into this
question 'cause it's a big one.
00:35:58.69\00:36:00.29
Media manipulation,
00:36:00.32\00:36:01.76
you know, we were
talking before we started
00:36:01.79\00:36:03.29
and you said,
00:36:03.32\00:36:04.66
Scott, we are a part of
a vast social experiment.
00:36:04.69\00:36:08.16
Yes.
00:36:08.20\00:36:09.53
And I said, you're
absolutely right, Shelley.
00:36:09.56\00:36:10.90
That's exactly
what it is unknowingly.
00:36:10.93\00:36:12.73
And it's an experiment
00:36:12.77\00:36:14.10
we got signed up
for without knowing.
00:36:14.14\00:36:16.00
We're consuming a product,
00:36:16.04\00:36:17.47
not knowing
00:36:17.51\00:36:18.84
what it will
give us an overdose,
00:36:18.87\00:36:20.21
not knowing that
it was addictive.
00:36:20.24\00:36:22.01
There's a lot of adults
00:36:22.04\00:36:23.68
who are
addicted to their phones.
00:36:23.71\00:36:25.11
So media manipulation
is really putting it mildly
00:36:25.15\00:36:28.72
and we're not talking
about good uses of media.
00:36:28.75\00:36:31.72
When we discuss
media manipulation
00:36:31.75\00:36:33.36
in the high priest
of the new religion,
00:36:33.39\00:36:35.16
that's what
they call themselves,
00:36:35.19\00:36:36.52
by the way.
00:36:36.56\00:36:37.89
That's makes for a
nice, interesting title.
00:36:37.93\00:36:39.26
But that was Bertrand Russell,
00:36:39.29\00:36:40.63
who said that Hollywood
00:36:40.66\00:36:42.00
is the high
priest of a new religion
00:36:42.03\00:36:43.40
because they will conform
00:36:43.43\00:36:44.97
into uniformity of thought
00:36:45.00\00:36:46.74
the value system
of the young people,
00:36:46.77\00:36:48.94
and what they
believe about fashion
00:36:48.97\00:36:50.41
and what they
believe about love.
00:36:50.44\00:36:51.77
And this was a
generation and a half ago
00:36:51.81\00:36:53.71
that they were
already establishing this.
00:36:53.74\00:36:55.44
You can go back to the 1920s,
00:36:55.48\00:36:56.88
the founder of
modern public relations,
00:36:56.91\00:36:59.11
the founder of
modern advertising
00:36:59.15\00:37:00.58
and popular culture.
00:37:00.62\00:37:01.95
He was a nephew
of Sigmund Freud.
00:37:01.98\00:37:03.65
So he knew about
the mind and he said,
00:37:03.69\00:37:05.45
we can control the group mind
00:37:05.49\00:37:06.89
and they won't
even know about it.
00:37:06.92\00:37:08.62
So he was very open and
blunt in his book, Propaganda
00:37:08.66\00:37:12.33
about the agenda
that they were up to
00:37:12.36\00:37:13.96
over a hundred years ago.
00:37:14.00\00:37:15.33
And we're still
living in that world.
00:37:15.36\00:37:16.77
You get whistleblowers
who come out of big tech,
00:37:16.80\00:37:19.63
who say we are in a
position of controlling
00:37:19.67\00:37:22.27
what a billion
people are doing right now.
00:37:22.30\00:37:24.11
And it's the most vast
00:37:24.14\00:37:26.21
and systematic
control of human attention
00:37:26.24\00:37:28.98
in human history.
00:37:29.01\00:37:30.35
And so only if Edward
Bernays could have had that,
00:37:30.38\00:37:33.68
you know, he had
very primitive tools,
00:37:33.72\00:37:35.65
but we're talking
about hypnotic elements
00:37:35.68\00:37:37.79
being used in the media,
00:37:37.82\00:37:39.22
through Hollywood,
through the music industry.
00:37:39.25\00:37:41.66
And it goes deep in
terms of deceptions,
00:37:41.69\00:37:44.39
in terms of the
great controversy
00:37:44.43\00:37:45.93
that we find ourselves in.
00:37:45.96\00:37:47.30
Well, the thing
that I've read about,
00:37:47.33\00:37:50.07
and you can
correct me if I'm wrong,
00:37:50.10\00:37:51.60
but what I've read is
when we are really thinking,
00:37:51.63\00:37:55.00
and I think you
brought this out,
00:37:55.04\00:37:56.37
that when we're
using our frontal lobe,
00:37:56.40\00:37:58.44
where the will,
where the worship.
00:37:58.47\00:37:59.94
Yeah.
00:37:59.97\00:38:01.31
There's beta waves to the brain.
00:38:01.34\00:38:02.98
Exactly. But what
happens is when we...
00:38:03.01\00:38:05.55
I love Scott
talks about amusement.
00:38:05.58\00:38:08.68
Muse means to study
and think on something.
00:38:08.72\00:38:11.82
A is the absence of
studying and thinking.
00:38:11.85\00:38:14.96
So amusement.
00:38:14.99\00:38:16.32
When we go into this,
00:38:16.36\00:38:17.99
uh, we're watching these
television movies, whatever,
00:38:18.03\00:38:23.73
what they are doing is
00:38:23.77\00:38:25.30
they're purposely doing things
to put you not in the beta,
00:38:25.33\00:38:30.61
but to have the alpha waves.
00:38:30.64\00:38:33.31
And that's when you're open.
00:38:33.34\00:38:35.74
I mean, I remember studying,
I interviewed someone who was,
00:38:35.78\00:38:40.02
had been in the new age
00:38:40.05\00:38:41.38
and they said, you know,
00:38:41.42\00:38:42.75
the whole idea of meditation
is to get to an alpha wave.
00:38:42.78\00:38:47.36
The whole idea of marijuana,
00:38:47.39\00:38:49.36
it medically
induces an alpha wave.
00:38:49.39\00:38:52.43
You're opening yourself up,
00:38:52.46\00:38:54.33
but the people here
that are doing this,
00:38:54.36\00:38:56.50
they want to, because
they wanna channel spirits.
00:38:56.53\00:38:59.43
When you open yourself,
when you're in an alpha state,
00:38:59.47\00:39:03.30
you are open to
suggestions from outside.
00:39:03.34\00:39:08.14
Yeah. That's absolutely true.
00:39:08.18\00:39:09.51
And some of them admit in quotes
00:39:09.54\00:39:10.88
that we go over in the series.
00:39:10.91\00:39:12.25
They say, we are
trying to open people's souls
00:39:12.28\00:39:14.42
so that we can
preach into their soul
00:39:14.45\00:39:15.78
what we want to say.
00:39:15.82\00:39:17.15
And it's like, wow,
you couldn't make this up,
00:39:17.19\00:39:19.32
the kind of
real nefarious scheme
00:39:19.35\00:39:21.52
that's been at play
for again, for generations.
00:39:21.56\00:39:24.36
And now, as we approach
00:39:24.39\00:39:25.86
the final days
of earth's history,
00:39:25.89\00:39:27.66
you can see that this system
that's been built to deceive
00:39:27.70\00:39:31.73
can be utilized by
Satan in his final deceptions.
00:39:31.77\00:39:34.74
So I believe it's
pivotal critical, crucial
00:39:34.77\00:39:37.91
that we come apart
and be separate now
00:39:37.94\00:39:39.87
from those systems of control
00:39:39.91\00:39:41.31
that we use
media to God's glory.
00:39:41.34\00:39:44.05
You know, this, this
platform isn't inducing
00:39:44.08\00:39:45.88
some sort of altered
state of consciousness
00:39:45.91\00:39:47.52
because it's
thoughtful, it's slower paced.
00:39:47.55\00:39:50.22
Whenever a parent, I
talk to parents about,
00:39:50.25\00:39:51.95
well, what kinds
of media at what ages,
00:39:51.99\00:39:54.32
you know, I always say,
00:39:54.36\00:39:55.69
you know, as they get older,
if the program is nature paced,
00:39:55.72\00:39:59.53
it's not like cartoons
and flashing images at them
00:39:59.56\00:40:02.03
and over stimulating
their developing brain,
00:40:02.06\00:40:04.07
you know, you and I
having a conversation,
00:40:04.10\00:40:05.60
it's like, we're in
people's living room with them.
00:40:05.63\00:40:07.20
You know, it's a
nature paced thing.
00:40:07.24\00:40:09.00
So it's not
that screens are bad,
00:40:09.04\00:40:10.97
but we do need
to be very serious
00:40:11.01\00:40:13.04
about trusting Hollywood,
00:40:13.07\00:40:15.24
trusting the
advertising industry,
00:40:15.28\00:40:17.11
trusting the music industry.
00:40:17.15\00:40:18.48
And dare I say,
even trusting big tech
00:40:18.51\00:40:20.52
as we utilize their platforms
to get the message out,
00:40:20.55\00:40:23.05
that's more sticky
and more difficult.
00:40:23.08\00:40:24.49
Some people are just blessed
00:40:24.52\00:40:25.85
by completely
getting off of social media
00:40:25.89\00:40:28.06
because it's
hampering their mental health
00:40:28.09\00:40:30.26
and they do a fast and
after the fast they go,
00:40:30.29\00:40:32.26
wow, I feel way better.
00:40:32.29\00:40:33.63
I'm just gonna stay off.
00:40:33.66\00:40:35.00
But when it comes to Hollywood,
00:40:35.03\00:40:36.87
I think we know where we
need to stand as Christians
00:40:36.90\00:40:38.97
on the Lord's side.
00:40:39.00\00:40:40.34
Well, you know,
00:40:40.37\00:40:43.14
people my age, when I say,
00:40:43.17\00:40:45.51
wow, the world has
changed in 10 years,
00:40:45.54\00:40:48.04
little girls are no longer,
00:40:48.08\00:40:49.44
you see a
little girl, that's 10,
00:40:49.48\00:40:51.18
she looks 16 the
way they're dressing,
00:40:51.21\00:40:53.48
the way they're doing.
00:40:53.52\00:40:54.85
And you think what is going on?
00:40:54.88\00:40:57.75
Well, Hollywood has
inundated that age group.
00:40:57.79\00:41:02.12
And we have one program
00:41:02.16\00:41:04.33
was called the spirit of
the entertainment industry.
00:41:04.36\00:41:07.60
And these little
girls often idolize stars
00:41:07.63\00:41:12.40
that are dressing a certain way,
00:41:12.43\00:41:14.67
doing a certain thing.
00:41:14.70\00:41:16.30
And parents or many parents
00:41:16.34\00:41:19.44
are just kind of losing control.
00:41:19.47\00:41:22.34
Kids don't have
childhood anymore.
00:41:22.38\00:41:24.21
They don't play
with little dolls.
00:41:24.25\00:41:26.05
They play with
other things. Yeah.
00:41:26.08\00:41:28.42
So talk about the spirit
of the entertainment industry.
00:41:28.45\00:41:32.85
You made some
really fascinating,
00:41:32.89\00:41:36.02
we talked about
00:41:36.06\00:41:38.06
what the song writers are doing
00:41:38.09\00:41:41.66
and how many of them said,
00:41:41.70\00:41:45.00
I just channeled this song.
00:41:45.03\00:41:46.37
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
00:41:46.40\00:41:47.74
They say, people
think we wrote our songs.
00:41:47.77\00:41:49.27
No, we were, we just happened
00:41:49.30\00:41:51.11
to have been
awake when it arrived
00:41:51.14\00:41:53.04
and we are just a
medium and another one says
00:41:53.07\00:41:55.98
I was an open temple
filled with many spirits
00:41:56.01\00:41:58.68
that would pass through me.
00:41:58.71\00:42:00.05
And, I don't know
who writes the songs.
00:42:00.08\00:42:03.25
Several of the actors talk about
00:42:03.28\00:42:04.99
how this is how I see acting.
00:42:05.02\00:42:06.79
You know, my body is a carrier
for the spirits of the dead.
00:42:06.82\00:42:10.93
They believe that inhabit me.
00:42:10.96\00:42:12.66
And I mean, it's just
quote after quote after quote.
00:42:12.69\00:42:14.73
You can say like
one or two people
00:42:14.76\00:42:16.20
were into some weird things
00:42:16.23\00:42:17.57
and it wouldn't be worth
necessarily doing an expose on,
00:42:17.60\00:42:20.44
but when you see
like the biggest names
00:42:20.47\00:42:23.47
and a bunch of them,
00:42:23.51\00:42:25.01
and then one of them comes out
00:42:25.04\00:42:26.37
with kind of a
whistleblowing mindset
00:42:26.41\00:42:28.14
and doesn't wanna get
all her friends in trouble
00:42:28.18\00:42:30.01
but you remember the
quote from Fairuza Balk,
00:42:30.05\00:42:32.45
the star of the witchcraft movie
00:42:32.48\00:42:34.08
where she goes,
00:42:34.12\00:42:35.45
yeah, a lot of entertainers
00:42:35.48\00:42:36.95
are very much
into this witchcraft,
00:42:36.99\00:42:39.32
and they don't
mention their names of course.
00:42:39.35\00:42:40.82
So some of them do
brag about it to the media
00:42:40.86\00:42:42.82
and admit it, I guess,
00:42:42.86\00:42:44.33
but many of them are
doing the very same things.
00:42:44.36\00:42:47.16
And so we get a
sample and a window
00:42:47.20\00:42:49.03
into the entertainment industry
00:42:49.06\00:42:50.40
by those who
have spoken about it.
00:42:50.43\00:42:52.20
But then Mrs. Balk
tells us a lot more
00:42:52.23\00:42:55.60
than those people are into it.
00:42:55.64\00:42:56.97
Yeah.
00:42:57.01\00:42:58.34
Well, and it's just something,
00:42:58.37\00:42:59.71
we're just trying to
give you a wakeup call
00:42:59.74\00:43:01.28
cause sometimes some
parents are very good
00:43:01.31\00:43:05.48
about watching,
controlling or regulating
00:43:05.51\00:43:09.58
I should say what
their children watch.
00:43:09.62\00:43:12.52
Other parents they've got HBO
00:43:12.55\00:43:15.66
and the parents are
in one room on the TV
00:43:15.69\00:43:17.99
and the kids are
watching something on HBO
00:43:18.03\00:43:20.46
that is mind boggling to think.
00:43:20.50\00:43:23.93
I mean, it would
be troublesome to me,
00:43:23.97\00:43:25.80
but for a child's
brain, it's amazing.
00:43:25.83\00:43:28.90
Let's, I've got to,
00:43:28.94\00:43:30.27
we're running
out of time so fast.
00:43:30.31\00:43:32.67
Programming 11
was amazing to me.
00:43:32.71\00:43:36.24
Program 11 is
called the lust trap.
00:43:36.28\00:43:40.05
And we are going
to, well, not we,
00:43:40.08\00:43:43.39
but Belt of Truth Ministry
00:43:43.42\00:43:45.19
Scott is going to
offer a digital download
00:43:45.22\00:43:50.63
of materials to
get people out of this.
00:43:50.66\00:43:54.76
But talk about the lust cascade?
00:43:54.80\00:43:57.87
Uh, the lust cascade.
00:43:57.90\00:43:59.23
Well, it's new term.
00:43:59.27\00:44:00.60
You won't find that one
necessarily in the public,
00:44:00.64\00:44:01.97
the science publications,
00:44:02.00\00:44:03.34
but people talk
about the stress cascade.
00:44:03.37\00:44:04.97
And as I was
studying into the brain
00:44:05.01\00:44:06.71
and how lust works,
00:44:06.74\00:44:08.08
it's like its step-by-step
00:44:08.11\00:44:09.44
and it's like getting
onto an on-ramp on a highway
00:44:09.48\00:44:11.98
where when you let the first,
00:44:12.01\00:44:13.82
you know, toe
hold of the devil in
00:44:13.85\00:44:16.95
it leads to a cascade of events,
00:44:16.99\00:44:18.39
a domino effect of
events in the brain
00:44:18.42\00:44:20.49
that leads to sexual immorality.
00:44:20.52\00:44:22.49
And so the first
step in the lust cascade
00:44:22.52\00:44:24.39
is just the fact
that the visual impetus,
00:44:24.43\00:44:27.93
the visual
temptation is recognized,
00:44:27.96\00:44:31.43
but that step one,
it isn't avoidable.
00:44:31.47\00:44:34.17
But step two is
when it's dwelt upon
00:44:34.20\00:44:36.40
when it's pondered,
when you behold that,
00:44:36.44\00:44:38.74
when you seek out more like it,
00:44:38.77\00:44:40.81
when you, when you
ruminate that in the brain,
00:44:40.84\00:44:43.01
at that point,
00:44:43.04\00:44:44.38
you're heading
down the lust cascade
00:44:44.41\00:44:45.75
and it changes
00:44:45.78\00:44:47.12
how the
prefrontal cortex is working
00:44:47.15\00:44:48.48
and able to overrule
the thoughts and impurities
00:44:48.52\00:44:51.22
that are entering in.
00:44:51.25\00:44:52.59
And pornography is a big
deal even among Christians.
00:44:52.62\00:44:58.69
Yeah, 50% of Christian men
admit that they are addicted.
00:44:58.73\00:45:02.16
And that's the ones that admit.
00:45:02.20\00:45:03.77
So this is a deep,
00:45:03.80\00:45:05.13
and that's why it's like
we did a 30 minute program,
00:45:05.17\00:45:06.84
28 minute program
in a series on media.
00:45:06.87\00:45:09.94
I'm like we
gotta talk about lust
00:45:09.97\00:45:11.57
somewhere in there,
00:45:11.61\00:45:12.94
but didn't really
do it justice, frankly.
00:45:12.97\00:45:14.51
And so I appreciate you saying,
00:45:14.54\00:45:15.88
"Hey, let's reach out to people
00:45:15.91\00:45:17.48
that are
struggling deeply with that."
00:45:17.51\00:45:19.55
And so there's,
00:45:19.58\00:45:20.92
I got six hours
on the topic of lust
00:45:20.95\00:45:22.28
'cause there's so much research,
00:45:22.32\00:45:23.65
particularly geared toward men
00:45:23.69\00:45:25.12
and the male brain
and finding freedom,
00:45:25.15\00:45:27.36
the program for how
to really break free
00:45:27.39\00:45:29.59
and find victory
with a capital V.
00:45:29.62\00:45:31.73
And even though,
00:45:31.76\00:45:33.09
some of this research
00:45:33.13\00:45:34.46
has been done for men's brains,
00:45:34.50\00:45:35.83
let me tell you something,
00:45:35.86\00:45:37.20
I've talked with too
many women who've called here
00:45:37.23\00:45:39.67
who have the same problem.
00:45:39.70\00:45:41.30
It's a problem
that crosses gender.
00:45:41.34\00:45:44.57
And it is something that
00:45:44.61\00:45:46.47
the kinds of the
information you present
00:45:46.51\00:45:49.51
will help both a
male and a female.
00:45:49.54\00:45:52.78
Boredom and the Bible,
00:45:52.81\00:45:54.75
you have the best
little video waiting,
00:45:54.78\00:45:58.72
he had some great video
clips we couldn't use them all,
00:45:58.75\00:46:01.82
but of a family that
went on a media fast.
00:46:01.86\00:46:04.96
And this little girl
said she was probably 14, 15.
00:46:04.99\00:46:08.36
She said, wasn't boring at all.
00:46:08.40\00:46:10.70
And she even, we
didn't get to there,
00:46:10.73\00:46:13.10
it was a
portion of a long video,
00:46:13.13\00:46:14.97
but she said,
00:46:15.00\00:46:16.34
now I can go out and
read my Bible for two hours.
00:46:16.37\00:46:19.01
And I just love it.
00:46:19.04\00:46:20.48
And I get so much out of it.
00:46:20.51\00:46:23.58
Why does a media
fast eliminate boredom
00:46:23.61\00:46:26.85
with the Bible?
00:46:26.88\00:46:28.22
When you're
addicted to something,
00:46:28.25\00:46:29.58
the pleasure receptors
of the brain are numbed.
00:46:29.62\00:46:31.52
Dopamine
receptors are shutting down
00:46:31.55\00:46:34.06
and the brain is just seeking
for the quest of that addiction
00:46:34.09\00:46:36.86
or something
like it to replace it.
00:46:36.89\00:46:38.86
At which point
00:46:38.89\00:46:40.23
you can't be satisfied and happy
00:46:40.26\00:46:41.60
and find joy in life
00:46:41.63\00:46:42.96
unless you are
getting that thing.
00:46:43.00\00:46:44.67
And so when you
remove that thing,
00:46:44.70\00:46:46.30
now life starts coming alive
00:46:46.33\00:46:47.94
and everything
can become joyful,
00:46:47.97\00:46:49.50
including the Bible.
00:46:49.54\00:46:50.87
So people find it
struggle to get into the Bible.
00:46:50.91\00:46:52.91
They think the
problem is the Bible,
00:46:52.94\00:46:54.68
or they think I'm the problem.
00:46:54.71\00:46:56.11
No, no, it's just,
there's a state in the brain
00:46:56.14\00:46:58.85
that is making it so that
you're having a hard time,
00:46:58.88\00:47:00.95
really relishing the
sweetness of the honey.
00:47:00.98\00:47:03.39
That is the word of
God, 'cause you're sated.
00:47:03.42\00:47:05.69
The Bible says a
sated man loathes honey.
00:47:05.72\00:47:07.89
So if you're sated
with the worldliness
00:47:07.92\00:47:09.76
sated or satisfied or satiated
with the over stimulating,
00:47:09.79\00:47:13.29
hypes entertaining culture.
00:47:13.33\00:47:15.70
You remove that
00:47:15.73\00:47:17.10
and the sober realities of life,
00:47:17.13\00:47:18.77
like God's Word,
00:47:18.80\00:47:20.14
like
relationships walking in nature,
00:47:20.17\00:47:22.04
the beauty of a rainbow.
00:47:22.07\00:47:23.41
I mean, you name it,
all the pleasures of life
00:47:23.44\00:47:25.87
really start to be
perceived by the brain.
00:47:25.91\00:47:28.18
And they've
shown in brain scans.
00:47:28.21\00:47:29.54
When somebody gets
off their addiction,
00:47:29.58\00:47:31.18
they become happier.
00:47:31.21\00:47:32.55
So you just start to
enjoy everything more,
00:47:32.58\00:47:33.92
especially the sweetest
thing of all the Word of God.
00:47:33.95\00:47:36.92
So that young lady lived that,
00:47:36.95\00:47:38.45
her brain was
changing over 30 days.
00:47:38.49\00:47:40.56
And she says now I
can go out and sit outside
00:47:40.59\00:47:43.49
and read the Bible
for hours and enjoy it.
00:47:43.53\00:47:45.83
And she says the media fast
00:47:45.86\00:47:47.20
life has not been boring at all.
00:47:47.23\00:47:49.43
'Cause you got
to fill those spaces
00:47:49.46\00:47:51.13
with other things.
00:47:51.17\00:47:52.50
If you're just twiddling
your thumbs and you're like,
00:47:52.53\00:47:53.87
I'm on a media fast
staring at a blank wall,
00:47:53.90\00:47:55.64
watching paint dry,
00:47:55.67\00:47:57.01
you're gonna go find some media.
00:47:57.04\00:47:58.37
You're gonna slip up
and not follow through.
00:47:58.41\00:47:59.81
So you've gotta have a
plan before you start a fast.
00:47:59.84\00:48:02.18
Amen and amen.
00:48:02.21\00:48:03.55
We do want to take
this opportunity be,
00:48:03.58\00:48:07.02
you know, you
might want to have Scott
00:48:07.05\00:48:08.98
come to your camp
meeting or your church
00:48:09.02\00:48:11.89
or come to a conference for you.
00:48:11.92\00:48:13.86
We're going to
put his address up
00:48:13.89\00:48:15.49
in just a moment,
00:48:15.52\00:48:16.86
how you can get
in touch with him.
00:48:16.89\00:48:18.23
But I wanted to
take a moment to show.
00:48:18.26\00:48:19.76
I think it was
Media on the Brain,
00:48:19.79\00:48:21.90
is that the one.
00:48:21.93\00:48:23.26
We had Media on the
Brain and Media on the Mind,
00:48:23.30\00:48:25.83
these are, how
many are in each series?
00:48:25.87\00:48:28.57
Media on the Brain was the one
that we did starting in 2012,
00:48:28.60\00:48:31.87
that one's six DVDs.
00:48:31.91\00:48:33.68
And the Media Mind is five DVDs.
00:48:33.71\00:48:36.14
And the graphic there
00:48:36.18\00:48:37.51
is showing the
overview of these two series.
00:48:37.55\00:48:40.75
So that's, this is 11 parts.
00:48:40.78\00:48:42.32
The download there, the
digital download free offer
00:48:42.35\00:48:45.62
is for anybody
00:48:45.65\00:48:46.99
who just contacts
our ministry and says,
00:48:47.02\00:48:48.89
we'd like that 'cause
last time I was here, Shelley,
00:48:48.92\00:48:51.13
we offered a
digit, a DVD to mail them.
00:48:51.16\00:48:54.80
And you got a few viewers.
00:48:54.83\00:48:56.26
As we said, while supplies last,
00:48:56.30\00:48:58.23
supplies didn't last very long.
00:48:58.27\00:48:59.60
So we started sending
people out the digital download
00:48:59.63\00:49:01.97
instead of one free DVD
that we sent last time we said,
00:49:02.00\00:49:05.24
well, since they
don't get the physical DVD,
00:49:05.27\00:49:07.18
we're gonna do four.
00:49:07.21\00:49:08.54
So the digital
download is a four part overview
00:49:08.58\00:49:12.41
of the 11 part DVDs
00:49:12.45\00:49:15.35
that I hold in my hand.
00:49:15.38\00:49:16.72
So I appreciate
being able to share that.
00:49:16.75\00:49:18.52
And then tell us about
the beltoftruthministries.tv?
00:49:18.55\00:49:24.33
beltoftruth.tv is,
00:49:24.36\00:49:26.73
if you wanna
watch all of this stuff
00:49:26.76\00:49:28.76
and all of our
stuff on parenting
00:49:28.80\00:49:30.40
and on overcoming lust
00:49:30.43\00:49:31.77
and dealing with
issues of true education,
00:49:31.80\00:49:35.70
current events and prophecy.
00:49:35.74\00:49:37.07
Boy, I could just spend
the next 10 minutes telling you
00:49:37.11\00:49:39.11
all the
different topics we tackle.
00:49:39.14\00:49:41.01
'Cause you know, early
on we did Media on the Brain
00:49:41.04\00:49:42.61
and we were like,
00:49:42.64\00:49:43.98
what should we
call this ministry
00:49:44.01\00:49:45.35
that God is calling us into?
00:49:45.38\00:49:46.72
We have these
invitations to go to churches,
00:49:46.75\00:49:48.22
somebody
recorded for us and said,
00:49:48.25\00:49:49.92
we're gonna make
it a DVD for you.
00:49:49.95\00:49:51.59
We said we could call
00:49:51.62\00:49:52.95
the Ministry Media on the Brain,
00:49:52.99\00:49:54.32
but there's so much
more truth to talk about.
00:49:54.36\00:49:56.62
I don't wanna
just talk about media.
00:49:56.66\00:49:58.19
So there's so many
other seminar topics.
00:49:58.23\00:49:59.96
So Belt of Truth
was as vague of a name
00:50:00.00\00:50:02.46
that we could come up with.
00:50:02.50\00:50:03.83
Just truth, anything true,
00:50:03.87\00:50:05.20
we will talk about it
00:50:05.23\00:50:06.57
as the Lord
leads us and inspire.
00:50:06.60\00:50:07.94
So beltoftruth.tv
00:50:07.97\00:50:09.30
is where people can
view all of our seminars
00:50:09.34\00:50:11.77
and all of our material.
00:50:11.81\00:50:13.27
He came off of one program
00:50:13.31\00:50:15.04
as we were
producing this he finished
00:50:15.08\00:50:17.25
and I said, I think that's
one of my favorite programs,
00:50:17.28\00:50:19.71
but he had
broken into preaching.
00:50:19.75\00:50:21.25
I said I bet you're
doing prophecy seminars now.
00:50:21.28\00:50:24.59
And he said, well, I'm
very much into prophecy
00:50:24.62\00:50:27.92
and current events.
00:50:27.96\00:50:29.39
So I know that you are
doing some of that as well.
00:50:29.42\00:50:32.43
So we are just so very
excited to have this resource,
00:50:32.46\00:50:39.40
this program,
Digital Disconnect.
00:50:39.43\00:50:43.00
I want you to
watch for the hours
00:50:43.04\00:50:46.91
when it is gonna be viewed,
00:50:46.94\00:50:48.28
because this is
something I would recommend.
00:50:48.31\00:50:51.71
I mean, everybody's
going to benefit from,
00:50:51.75\00:50:53.92
did you know you quoted
and correct me if I'm wrong,
00:50:53.95\00:50:58.62
but I think some of those quotes
00:50:58.65\00:51:00.29
from industry experts
00:51:00.32\00:51:02.56
were saying that
media, the phone, the games
00:51:02.59\00:51:07.00
is more addictive than cocaine.
00:51:07.03\00:51:08.36
Oh, yeah.
00:51:08.40\00:51:09.73
That was Dr. Nicholas Kardaras,
00:51:09.76\00:51:11.10
he's author of
the book, Glow Kids.
00:51:11.13\00:51:12.57
And he said, I have treated
hundreds of heroin addicts
00:51:12.60\00:51:16.00
and screen addicts
00:51:16.04\00:51:17.37
and it's easier to
treat a heroin addict
00:51:17.41\00:51:19.27
than a screen addict.
00:51:19.31\00:51:20.74
Dr. Dunckley talked about
00:51:20.78\00:51:22.11
how the hyper stimulating
video games and stuff
00:51:22.14\00:51:24.31
are a stimulant like
caffeine, cocaine, amphetamines
00:51:24.35\00:51:27.85
along the same lines.
00:51:27.88\00:51:29.25
There are many more
quotes along those lines.
00:51:29.28\00:51:30.99
I know, you are gonna
absolutely learn so much
00:51:31.02\00:51:35.26
from this series,
00:51:35.29\00:51:36.62
but if you want to
get in touch with Scott,
00:51:36.66\00:51:40.30
we wanted to put
up his address roll,
00:51:40.33\00:51:43.10
so that you would know
00:51:43.13\00:51:44.50
how you can get in
touch with his ministry.
00:51:44.53\00:51:46.80
If you would like to contact
00:51:52.57\00:51:53.91
or know more about
Belt of Truth Ministries,
00:51:53.94\00:51:56.34
you can write to them
at 11333, Backus Road,
00:51:56.38\00:52:00.32
Lakeview, Missouri 48850.
00:52:00.35\00:52:04.82
You can also call
them at (616) 238-5058.
00:52:04.85\00:52:11.09
That's (616) 238-5058.
00:52:11.13\00:52:16.16
You can visit their website
at beltoftruthministries.org.
00:52:16.20\00:52:20.14
That's
beltoftruthministries.org.
00:52:20.17\00:52:24.01
You can also email them
00:52:24.04\00:52:25.41
at beltoftruthministries
@gmail.com.
00:52:25.44\00:52:29.21
That's beltoftruthministries
@gmail.com.
00:52:29.24\00:52:33.21