As you're well aware,
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we're living in
unprecedented times.
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Join us now for
Today special program.
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Removing pain
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Lord, let my words
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Heal a heart that hurts
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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Hello, friends, and
welcome to 3ABN Today.
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We are so thankful and
blessed that you are joining us.
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We know that you could
be doing anything else,
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and you're
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and we appreciate that.
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We thank you for your love,
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your prayers and
support of 3ABN ministry
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for obviously right now,
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because of you, this message,
these three angels' messages,
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the gospel truth,
the love of Christ
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is going all around the
world right now as we speak.
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And so thank you.
And you know what?
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You're not gonna want
to change the channel,
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whatever platform
you're watching this through,
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whether it be YouTube
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or you're watching
it through satellite
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or whatever
platform you're watching
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and don't change the channel.
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Don't click off this video
because we have a powerful,
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powerful story of transformation
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and some information
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that we're gonna
be sharing this hour
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that could
potentially save your life.
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And I'm very excited
about the guests we have.
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We have Chad and Fadia Kruezer
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from Anchor Point Films
that are joining us today.
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And how are you guys doing?
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Wonderful, we're
happy to be here.
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Amen. Praise the Lord.
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And we're gonna get right into
your story in just a moment.
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But before we go any further,
we have a wonderful blessing
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that's gonna be
brought to us by Mary Grace.
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She's going to be
playing for us the song,
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"The Lord's Prayer."
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Amen. Thank you
so much Mary Grace.
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I love hearing her play.
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The Lord has blessed her so much
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with a wonderful ability
to make the piano come alive.
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And I love that
song, The Lord's Prayer,
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reminds us of how
much we depend on God
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to see us through.
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And I wanna get
right in to this story,
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powerful story
of transformation.
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And we're gonna be
learning so much from Chad
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and Fadia Kruezer
from Anchor Point Films.
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And we've already
asked you how you're doing.
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We know you're doing great.
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And we know the Lord has
brought you here to share
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with us who you are
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and a little bit
about your ministry.
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And you also have a
story to tell us about
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how the Lord has made
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a transformation
in your life, Chad.
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And we'll get into
that in just a moment,
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but you know, there may be
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someone watching
at home right now
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that doesn't know who
Chad and Fadia Kruezer are.
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So tell us a
little bit about yourself
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and where you're from
and all that good stuff?
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Yeah. We...
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Fadia and I have
been married for what,
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13 years now
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and we live in
Michigan, presently.
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I was born and
raised in Michigan,
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but then we traveled
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for 19 years doing
ministry around the world,
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living in Europe and
traveling around the world.
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But then we
moved back to Michigan
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just before COVID struck
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and we have a
ministry Anchor Point Films
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and a YouTube channel
called Health and Homestead.
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Wow.
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Praise the Lord,
Anchor Point Films.
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And I have to say,
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I was telling you
this a little bit about
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this before we had
came out around the set,
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but Anchor Point Films,
for those of you don't know,
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you guys have
produced several documentaries,
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powerful documentaries.
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And the one that I
remember specifically
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that made an impact in my life
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was when I was
back in AFCO in 2013,
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they played as kind of a
part of the curriculum there,
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"The Forgotten Dream."
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And that was one
about Daniel too.
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And you guys have
done several documentaries.
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Tell us a little bit about
what Anchor Point Films does?
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Yeah, we were, so
we worked in Europe,
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we were working
with atheists, agnostics.
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Most of the people that
we were coming in contact
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were just simply,
they didn't believe in God.
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And then we moved to
Oregon and as we were visiting
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with people in Oregon,
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we were even studying
the Bible with people.
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One of the things
that they shared with us
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over and over...
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Would be things like,
"Oh, I know about the Bible."
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Right.
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Because they
wanna be open-minded
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and have a conversation.
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Like I know about the
Bible and we were like,
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"Oh, what do you
know about the Bible?"
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And they're like, "I
watch the history channel."
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And we were like, "Oh really?"
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And so then they'd tell us
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what they would watch, you know,
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some documentary they would see
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and we'd have such
great conversations with them.
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And then we'd say, "Oh,
would you like this pamphlet?"
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On whatever it was
we had talked about
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and they were like,
"Oh, I don't like to read."
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Right.
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Oh, we had such a
great conversation
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and we have
nothing to leave them with.
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And so then we
would come together
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as a group and
say, "What do we do?"
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Like, we don't
wanna give a sermon,
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you know, not that we
have a problem with that,
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but these people
just aren't into that.
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And so we
eventually had this burden,
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well, they seem to
watch documentaries
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that are religious,
they're kind of religious.
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So why doesn't
somebody in the church
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make a documentary?
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Right?
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I mean, a lot of us
said things like that,
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like, "Why doesn't
the church do this?
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And why doesn't
the church do that?"
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And then God's like
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"You're the church
and I gave you the idea.
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So you do it." That's amazing.
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And so the door opened,
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so we made the first documentary
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to establish that the
Bible could be trusted.
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The second one
was to establish that
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Jesus was who He claimed to be
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through history,
through prophecy.
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And then it just
went through things like,
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if God is good,
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why is there so
much pain and suffering?
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And we touch on
things like death
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and the change of God's
law and all of these things
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that it just
began to be something
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that we just wanted to make one.
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And we were simply making it.
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So we would have a tool
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to share with people personally.
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We really weren't thinking
of like distributing them.
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It was more like, "Man,
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we want this thing
to share with people
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that we're talking with."
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And the first one took off
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and the Lord just
blessed from there on out.
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That's amazing.
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And there's gotta be
a lot of work, you know,
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when you think of documentary,
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like when you
watch a documentary,
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I mean, it seems
like there's so much
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that goes into
something like that.
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It's not necessarily,
which I know, you know,
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television and
film work in general,
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there's a lot of
work that's put into it.
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When you think about a
documentary being so precise
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and you know,
the flow of thought,
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the flow of how you're gonna...
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So talk a little
bit about how much work
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did you have to put
into something like that?
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It just seems
like such a big task.
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Yeah.
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So we were doing like
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Bible prophecy
seminars at the time.
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And so initially we went around
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and we interviewed
archeologist scholars
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and all these different people.
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So we interviewed
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the different scholars out there
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and then we had to edit
them, but we're doing meetings.
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So during the day
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or during the
evening, we're speaking.
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And then I would
come home at night
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and I would work
almost all night editing.
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And we don't do that
anymore. It's super unhealthy.
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I don't suggest anybody
doing something like that,
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but we would work
literally almost all night.
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And then we would go
visit people during the day
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and then do our
meetings again at night.
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And it was just
really unhealthy,
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but it was a ton of work.
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The editing process
is the hardest work,
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you're just
meticulously going through
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and you have
all these interviews
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and then putting it together
in a way that seems coherent.
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Like there
really was a storyline
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all the way through,
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even though you just
have a bunch of interviews.
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And so, that process
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it's kind of
almost mind boggling to me
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while you're doing it.
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It's actually confusing.
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But finally, by
the grace of God,
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it all comes together.
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And, you know,
we wanted it to be
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something that would
both touch people's hearts,
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lead them to Jesus and
the truth of God's Word.
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And so, we didn't have
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any previous experience in that,
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we just kind of
learned as we went.
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And the beauty is that
God only allowed us to see
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what we could
handle at the time,
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because if we could see
the end from the beginning,
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we would have never
been willing to do it.
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Never would we have been
like, "Are you kidding me?
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We're not doing that."
"That's way too much work."
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"That's way too much work."
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But He just let us see
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what we needed to do
right then and there.
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And we stepped forward.
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He gave us the abilities
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and you know, a
lot of people ask,
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"Oh, what kind of
background did you have?"
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And then Chad says...
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"Well, you know,
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I have probably
19 years in film.
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I used to watch television
all the time for 19 years."
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So that was my background.
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And so like not really
much of an education in it,
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but you've
watched a ton, you know?
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And so, but I mean,
there's more than that,
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obviously YouTube teaches
you how to do anything, right?
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You can learn how to
do anything on there.
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That's amazing.
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Just being here at
3ABN and seeing how much,
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how much work and
all of the integral
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different parts of that
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goes into
producing something like
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what you're watching right now,
you know, many people just see
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and it's like, "Oh, you
know, they're sitting in a room
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and there's a camera on them
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and they're just
talking and that's all they do.
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They'll have a couple
of cameras in the room
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and they just, you
know, click a button."
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But there's just so
much that goes into it.
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And when I watch your,
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you know Anchor
Point Films productions,
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and I see these
powerful documentaries,
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it's amazing to see how
much work goes into that
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and how much of a blessing
I know it has been to me
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and I know it has
been to other people.
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And so thank you
guys so much for that,
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it's a blessing indeed.
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So you mentioned your ministry,
you said you were preaching.
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Yeah.
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Also, you know,
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while you were
doing editing or making,
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you know, producing these films.
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Tell us a little bit
about your preaching ministry?
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So we would do,
we did full time,
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basically Bible
prophecy seminars
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for how many years
would you say nine years,
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10 years, something like that.
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And then we
started doing it part-time
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'cause we were traveling
around making the documentaries
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and doing speaking.
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So we traveled around the world.
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Like we said,
we've lived in Norway,
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we've lived in Iceland
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and we've traveled around
Europe, Africa, and Australia,
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and the United States
speaking all over the place.
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But in the midst of that,
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we'd also be, the
nice thing was that people
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were asking us to come to speak,
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but because we're
already traveling speaking,
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we can interview people.
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So it worked perfectly.
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It's like we had an
option to, we're in Australia,
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hey, we're making
something on heart disease.
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Well, there's, you know,
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here's a medical professional
there we can talk to.
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So it was a mixture of
speaking and then it just,
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God brought it all together.
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So we could do
the video ministry
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at the very same time.
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That's powerful. Yeah.
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Praise the Lord. Amen.
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You know, I
have to plug in here.
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We're gonna toward the
end of this program again,
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if you're just now tuning
in, don't change the channel.
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Don't turn away
because we're talking
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with Chad and Fadia Kruezer
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from Anchor
Point Films ministry,
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and you guys have produced
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so much wonderful content,
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documentaries and films
that have blessed so many.
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And we're going to tell
you how you can get those films
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or how you can get
in contact with them
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to get a hold of that content
toward the end of this program.
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So stick with us.
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But Chad, I
wanna kind of segue now
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into probably
what we're gonna spend
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the bulk of our
time talking about
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during this program.
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And feel free,
if there's anything
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we've left out
about Anchor Point Films,
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feel free to clean that up
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and tell us whatever
we might have missed.
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But during this
time of ministry during,
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while you're preaching,
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while you're doing this
film ministry or whatnot,
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you had something
that happened in your life,
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something came upon you
and that would change you.
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And you have a powerful
story of transformation on that.
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Tell us about
what happened? Yeah.
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So we were actually living
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in Iceland a
beautiful country and it is...
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It's not all icy, right?
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You know, it's funny, that they,
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so what you actually find
that is that Greenland is icy.
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Right. And Iceland is green.
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Right.
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So, you know
for whatever reason,
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that's the way they're named.
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But although they do get
plenty of ice in the winter
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and the wind is
very, very intense,
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but it's a very
beautiful country.
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Photographers love to go there.
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So we lived there for
the better part of a year
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and we ended up
getting stomach trouble.
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Fadia did, I did,
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our friend
Nathaniel was working with us.
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So we all lost a lot of weight.
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And Fadia and I were, you
know, just gone after being,
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I lost like 30 pounds
and I wasn't very big before.
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So you lose 30 pounds
when you're not very big.
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And we were just
ridiculously skinny,
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sunken cheeks
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and but we were
eating plenty of food,
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but we had stomach trouble.
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It just wouldn't
stay in us very well.
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And with that for
the first time in my life
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experienced depression.
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And it was deep, but
we kept going forward.
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We kept sharing the
love of Jesus with people.
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We did health seminars,
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we did Bible prophecy seminars,
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and we finished
our time in Iceland.
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Then we came back
to the United States
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and then every year for
about at least eight years,
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I would go through at
least seasonal depression.
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So the winter, you
know, you've probably heard
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of seasonal
affective disorder or SAD.
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I would at least have
it during the winter months
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and probably some
of the summer months,
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and then ended up
having the last two years
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I got bit by a tick.
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I think we were
out in Tennessee.
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I believe it was
and got bit by a tick
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and a doctor friend of
mine gave me some prescription
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to take some antibiotics.
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And as a result
ended up going into
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two years of just
nonstop depression after that.
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So a total of 10
years of depression
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and the depression for me,
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people experience
depression differently.
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Some people feel worthless.
I didn't feel worthless.
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I always knew God had a
purpose and a plan for my life.
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And I believed in God,
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but my depression was
mainly terrible guilt.
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I just felt
guilty for everything.
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Some of it was legitimate
in the sense that you know,
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I had done things in the past.
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And so I paid
thousands of dollars
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to try to right
the wrongs of the past
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and try to make my life right.
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But none of it would
make me feel any better.
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So there was, you know
how like you try to make,
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you do something wrong
and then you confess your sin.
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You're, "Hey bro, I'm
sorry for what I did."
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And then there's
a piece that comes
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with it afterward typically.
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Nothing would make
me feel any better.
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So it was just
this deep, deep guilt.
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And some of it I
knew was irrational.
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Like it was
just beyond standard,
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like you've
done something wrong.
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Like it became so
fanatical that like,
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you know, if I
went and pinched a peach
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or something at the store,
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'cause I was
seeing if it was the,
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you know, if it was ripe,
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I was like, "Oh, I
pinched that too hard.
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I have to buy it."
Like everything was guilt.
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I just felt guilt.
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And I realized like, and
I knew this is irrational.
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This doesn't even
make sense. Right.
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So just to add in here,
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was this something that
kind of crept in silently
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or was it like
flipping on a switch?
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You know, you could like one day
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you were this way and
the next day it just came.
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How did that work?
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Probably a little
more, probably more gradual,
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but it did all start in Iceland.
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At some point
while we were in Iceland
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while we all had
this stomach trouble.
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And I think probably all of us
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probably
experience it in some form.
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I mean, when you
were down, I'm sure.
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Well, we were all down there,
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but then having
it, when we were back,
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it was somewhat gradual
and it got worse over time.
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I can say that.
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But even in the midst of it,
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I was reading
my Bible every day,
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seeking the Lord,
trying to make my heart right,
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even though every
time I opened the Bible,
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it felt like it
was condemning me,
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like a 100% of the time.
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The very first thought I
would have in the morning
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was just guilt from the past.
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Like every single day,
you'd hope that you'd wake up
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and not have that,
but it was there every,
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like almost every waking moment.
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It was just, it
was overwhelming and...
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It's amazing. It was so...
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He tried and sorry.
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He tried like,
you know, exercising,
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doing whatever
he could, you know,
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try doing all the
things to help himself.
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And I think that kept
him from getting any worse.
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Absolutely.
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You know, I think that
kept him being functional
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because I think had he not been
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doing any of
those things, you know,
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spending time with
Jesus hours in prayer,
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things like that, had
he not been doing that,
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I think he would have
just been like, you know,
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in his bed all day
or something like that.
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But I think because he
did all these other things,
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it kept him going,
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it gave him something
to live for, you know?
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And he...
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I mean, we kept working,
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we just kept
going around the world,
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traveling, teaching people,
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telling people
about the love of Jesus
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and righteousness by faith,
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yet I wasn't
sensing into my own soul,
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even though I
believed it, I could preach it.
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I could give you all
the verses from memory.
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I could, you know,
I have memorized it
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and I could share that love,
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but in my own
heart couldn't sense
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the true love of
God, even though,
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just because of the darkness.
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And that's, you know,
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one thing to think
about for people that
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just because you
don't feel you are saved,
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doesn't mean you're not
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and it doesn't
mean that you're lost.
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Absolutely.
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Jesus, as He went to the cross,
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you know, He was, as
He's hanging on the cross,
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He says, "My God, my
God, why hast thou forsaken?"
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And He felt as if He
could not ever come forth
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from the tomb and yet He did.
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And so Jesus knows what
it's like to be depressed.
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He knows what
it's like to feel lost.
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And just feeling loss
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is not an evidence
necessarily that you are.
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That's a good point
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'cause I was, as
you were speaking,
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I'm thinking to myself,
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there's gotta be
somebody watching this,
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probably hearing
what you're saying,
00:19:51.32\00:19:52.75
or they have this
perception in their mind that,
00:19:52.79\00:19:54.69
oh, that person's dealing
with depression or anxiety
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or whatever it is
that they're dealing with.
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You know, this is a
real mental health condition,
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but many of those
mental health conditions
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that people deal with,
many people perceive them as,
00:20:04.20\00:20:06.60
well, they don't trust in God
00:20:06.63\00:20:08.24
or they don't really have
God as their personal savior.
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They don't really know the Lord,
00:20:10.67\00:20:12.01
but if they knew the Lord,
00:20:12.04\00:20:13.38
you know, they
were genuine Christians,
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then they wouldn't
be dealing with this
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because the Lord would just,
00:20:16.14\00:20:17.48
you know, snuff
it out of their life.
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And He would take
that away from them.
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Talk a little bit about it.
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I know you spoke a
little bit about it,
00:20:21.62\00:20:22.95
but, you know, speak on the fact
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that that's not always
the case that it can be more
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there more to the
equation than just,
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you know, there's the spiritual,
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it can be physical.
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I appreciate
that insight from you
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because that is so true,
00:20:32.93\00:20:34.33
that if a
Christian always felt saved,
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then Jesus
shouldn't have felt lost.
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He was Christ and
Christians are Christ-ians.
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They are people
who are like Christ.
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Christ was man of sorrows
and acquainted with grief.
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So he's acquainted
with our human suffering,
00:20:49.68\00:20:52.48
our personal experiences,
00:20:52.51\00:20:54.02
even with that depression,
that experience that we have.
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I mean, he's a man of sorrows.
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So having that
experience is not a testimony
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that you don't have Jesus.
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When people say that
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there are people
out there who act like,
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I mean, we were with a woman
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who she had gone
through radiation for cancer
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and distorted part of her face.
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It was very, very
difficult for her...
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And she had a
trach. She had a trach.
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That she would breathe in,
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and then in the
midst of the Bible study
00:21:16.57\00:21:18.04
she'd fall asleep.
00:21:18.07\00:21:19.41
It was a group Bible
study and she'd fall asleep.
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And it was just so discouraging.
00:21:21.81\00:21:24.15
And there was a group of
people that were with her.
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They were of a certain faith
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that believed if
you are with Jesus,
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He will heal all
of your problems.
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And so they
kept telling her that
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and telling her that and...
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And then every week
at the end of the study,
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they'd come around
her and pray over her.
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And you know,
00:21:39.26\00:21:40.60
like try to cast it
out of her or whatever.
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And our hearts, every week,
00:21:42.70\00:21:44.20
we would just be like,
"Oh, Lord, be with this woman."
00:21:44.23\00:21:47.37
And finally, as we
got to know her better,
00:21:47.40\00:21:49.47
we opened up to her
and shared some scripture
00:21:49.50\00:21:53.71
with her to tell her, you know,
00:21:53.74\00:21:55.81
Paul had something that
he cried out to the Lord.
00:21:55.84\00:21:59.78
He begged the Lord
to take it from him.
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But in our weakness,
he is made strong, right?
00:22:01.82\00:22:04.99
He is uplifted.
00:22:05.02\00:22:06.59
And so we shared that
with her and it just brought
00:22:06.62\00:22:09.32
such joy to her
heart to know that
00:22:09.36\00:22:11.39
she had faith, you know.
00:22:11.43\00:22:13.70
Just because you're not healed,
00:22:13.73\00:22:15.06
doesn't mean you
don't have faith.
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And I remember
00:22:16.46\00:22:17.80
at the very
darkest moment of this,
00:22:17.83\00:22:20.24
and once again,
she likes, she said,
00:22:20.27\00:22:21.60
I was reading my
Bible. I was exercising.
00:22:21.64\00:22:23.20
I was eating a healthy diet.
I was getting out in the sun.
00:22:23.24\00:22:25.81
I was doing what I could
from the health principles
00:22:25.84\00:22:28.44
to try to get rid of it,
but it just wasn't happening.
00:22:28.48\00:22:31.11
And then at the
very darkest moment,
00:22:31.15\00:22:32.91
the thought came to me.
00:22:32.95\00:22:34.32
"What if I have
to live with this
00:22:34.35\00:22:36.15
for the rest of my life?"
00:22:36.18\00:22:38.65
And then the
very next thought was,
00:22:38.69\00:22:42.02
"Then I just accept it."
00:22:42.06\00:22:43.43
Because I know
Jesus is the answer.
00:22:43.46\00:22:45.83
And even if I don't,
even if I can't sense Him,
00:22:45.86\00:22:48.56
I know He really is the answer.
00:22:48.60\00:22:50.83
And I think I'm actually
glad I got to that point.
00:22:50.87\00:22:53.84
And I don't mean, I'm
glad I got to the point
00:22:53.87\00:22:55.47
where the thought came,
00:22:55.50\00:22:56.84
what if you're gonna
have to suffer with this
00:22:56.87\00:22:58.21
for the rest of your life?
00:22:58.24\00:22:59.74
What if? That is a
possibility, right?
00:22:59.77\00:23:02.58
And praise the Lord.
00:23:02.61\00:23:04.58
We finally did
find a way out of it,
00:23:04.61\00:23:06.01
but don't give up just
because you're suffering
00:23:06.05\00:23:10.62
and you feel guilty
or whatever you suffer
00:23:10.65\00:23:13.02
with depression, anxiety, PTSD,
00:23:13.05\00:23:16.19
whatever it may be,
00:23:16.22\00:23:17.56
don't give up just
because it seems hopeless.
00:23:17.59\00:23:19.59
And you may have to
live this way forever.
00:23:19.63\00:23:21.30
Quick point on this.
00:23:21.33\00:23:23.06
They have surveyed people
00:23:23.10\00:23:25.27
who jumped off
the most popular place
00:23:25.30\00:23:27.50
to commit suicide is jumping off
00:23:27.54\00:23:28.87
the Golden Gate Bridge.
00:23:28.90\00:23:30.24
Most people die
because the impact is so hard
00:23:30.27\00:23:32.37
from that height that it
just, they break their back.
00:23:32.41\00:23:34.81
They can't swim and they die
because they broke their back.
00:23:34.84\00:23:38.05
But several people have lived
and they've interviewed them.
00:23:38.08\00:23:40.62
And they said, "Did
you regret jumping?"
00:23:40.65\00:23:43.75
And they all said, "Yes."
00:23:43.79\00:23:46.69
And then they ask them,
"When did you regret it?"
00:23:46.72\00:23:48.49
And they said,
"The moment I jumped."
00:23:48.52\00:23:50.53
And so this is the
thing the devil may get us
00:23:50.56\00:23:52.53
to in a fit of depression,
like, I just wanna end it.
00:23:52.56\00:23:57.13
But if you got on the other side
00:23:57.17\00:23:58.67
a half second on the other side,
00:23:58.70\00:24:00.94
you would regret it.
00:24:00.97\00:24:02.30
So doing these things,
they don't fix the problem.
00:24:02.34\00:24:05.54
Jesus can, but even
if you have to suffer
00:24:05.57\00:24:08.04
for the rest of your life,
00:24:08.08\00:24:09.41
which by God's
grace, I hope you don't.
00:24:09.44\00:24:10.85
And I'm glad that
God brought me out of it.
00:24:10.88\00:24:13.01
Don't give up,
just don't give up.
00:24:13.05\00:24:14.38
Absolutely.
00:24:14.42\00:24:15.75
And I have to add
this, you know again,
00:24:15.78\00:24:17.12
not to uplift you as a person,
00:24:17.15\00:24:18.49
but the fact that
it speaks to your faith
00:24:18.52\00:24:19.99
as an individual,
00:24:20.02\00:24:21.42
that you came
to that conclusion.
00:24:21.46\00:24:23.79
What if I have to deal
with this, the rest of my life?
00:24:23.83\00:24:26.96
There are some
people that only serve God
00:24:27.00\00:24:29.26
based on the things
that He does for them.
00:24:29.30\00:24:30.63
I think of Job, right?
00:24:30.67\00:24:32.00
Job, you know, just
that implied accusation
00:24:32.03\00:24:34.74
that Satan tell, "Oh, you know,
00:24:34.77\00:24:36.20
take away your
hedge of protection,
00:24:36.24\00:24:37.64
take away all the goodies
00:24:37.67\00:24:39.01
that you've prospered him with
and that you've given to him.
00:24:39.04\00:24:41.68
And then he'll
curse you to your face."
00:24:41.71\00:24:43.71
In other words,
there's an implied accusation
00:24:43.75\00:24:45.51
there that you Lord in
and of yourself are not worthy
00:24:45.55\00:24:47.98
to be worshiped,
not worthy to be served
00:24:48.02\00:24:50.19
because he's only serving you
00:24:50.22\00:24:51.95
because of the good things
that he's giving you, right?
00:24:51.99\00:24:54.12
And this is a case in point,
00:24:54.16\00:24:55.49
as I'm listening to you,
you came to that conclusion,
00:24:55.52\00:24:57.93
Lord, You are worthy
for me to spend my life
00:24:57.96\00:25:01.16
serving You and worshiping You.
00:25:01.20\00:25:02.90
Whether You
save me or you don't,
00:25:02.93\00:25:04.60
whether You take this
away from me or you don't,
00:25:04.63\00:25:06.47
You are still Lord,
and that doesn't change.
00:25:06.50\00:25:08.70
That's powerful,
brother. That's powerful.
00:25:08.74\00:25:10.51
And even then,
00:25:10.54\00:25:11.87
even when I felt
totally guilty, totally lost,
00:25:11.91\00:25:14.04
I thought, well, if
other people are saved
00:25:14.08\00:25:16.64
by the ministry that I'm
doing, it will be worth it.
00:25:16.68\00:25:19.68
Even though you
hope you would be.
00:25:19.71\00:25:21.65
But in this, at that
time, I couldn't have any sense
00:25:21.68\00:25:24.09
within my soul
that I could be saved
00:25:24.12\00:25:25.52
even though I believe it.
00:25:25.55\00:25:26.89
If you'd say,
"Do you believe it?"
00:25:26.92\00:25:28.26
With my head I do, but not with,
00:25:28.29\00:25:29.96
I just don't feel it.
00:25:29.99\00:25:31.33
And so once again,
Jesus didn't feel saved.
00:25:31.36\00:25:34.90
Feeling saved is not
proof that you are saved
00:25:34.93\00:25:37.67
or not feeling
saved is not proof
00:25:37.70\00:25:40.14
that you are not saved.
00:25:40.17\00:25:41.60
We trust even in the
midst of if we don't feel it.
00:25:41.64\00:25:44.14
Absolutely.
00:25:44.17\00:25:45.51
I think of Him, like you
said, you pointed to Him,
00:25:45.54\00:25:46.88
"My Father, My Father,
why have you forsaken me?"
00:25:46.91\00:25:49.28
In Psalm 22, He says,
"I'm a worm and no man."
00:25:49.31\00:25:52.35
And it's like, wait a
second, Jesus, 12 hours before
00:25:52.38\00:25:54.95
You were just
claiming to be the Son of God
00:25:54.98\00:25:56.89
and you know,
praising Your Father for Him
00:25:56.92\00:25:58.42
bringing you this far.
00:25:58.45\00:25:59.79
But now it's like, He
doesn't know Him, right?
00:25:59.82\00:26:01.22
And so it's
powerful to see the Lord,
00:26:01.26\00:26:03.99
the Lord allowed you to
go through this experience.
00:26:04.03\00:26:06.53
And it's powerful to
also consider the fact that
00:26:06.56\00:26:08.10
you said you were doing
00:26:08.13\00:26:09.46
all that you knew
to do at that time.
00:26:09.50\00:26:11.03
You were practicing
good health practices.
00:26:11.07\00:26:13.57
You were exercising.
00:26:13.60\00:26:15.64
So you're dealing
with this depression.
00:26:15.67\00:26:18.01
And so I just had
to ask real quickly.
00:26:18.04\00:26:20.68
I know we're gonna get to
how this helped your marriage,
00:26:20.71\00:26:22.94
but how did, I
mean, going through this,
00:26:22.98\00:26:25.15
you had said, I think you
said she had also dealt maybe
00:26:25.18\00:26:28.22
with a little bit
of this, not the same.
00:26:28.25\00:26:30.52
But how did you deal with this
00:26:30.55\00:26:31.89
and the process
that he's going through?
00:26:31.92\00:26:33.25
Yeah.
00:26:33.29\00:26:34.62
I was just about to say
when he was talking about it,
00:26:34.66\00:26:35.99
that when he would be
in this frame of mind,
00:26:36.02\00:26:40.56
it was hard to
rationalize with him.
00:26:40.60\00:26:43.87
So let's say he's got
00:26:43.90\00:26:45.23
some guilty
thought or some sort.
00:26:45.27\00:26:47.44
And I tell him, well,
Chad look at it this way,
00:26:47.47\00:26:49.50
you know?
00:26:49.54\00:26:50.87
And I tell him, I
give him a Bible verse
00:26:50.91\00:26:53.68
or something, and then he
says, "You just made it worse."
00:26:53.71\00:26:56.58
Like, I feel more
guilty. I'd feel more guilty.
00:26:56.61\00:26:59.11
And then let's
say I had, you know,
00:26:59.15\00:27:01.35
we'd have our devotions.
00:27:01.38\00:27:02.72
And in the morning I
wanted to share with him
00:27:02.75\00:27:04.09
like, look what I saw and this,
00:27:04.12\00:27:06.45
and then I'd make
him feel more guilty.
00:27:06.49\00:27:08.36
"You just added another thing
00:27:08.39\00:27:09.76
that I have to think about now."
00:27:09.79\00:27:11.66
And so then it
just got me feeling like
00:27:11.69\00:27:14.23
it doesn't matter what I
say, he just feels worse.
00:27:14.26\00:27:17.33
And I can't even
share my devotions with him
00:27:17.37\00:27:19.63
because he feels
guilty all the time.
00:27:19.67\00:27:21.57
And it really, it
wears on your marriage,
00:27:21.60\00:27:24.94
you know, it's just
like, you start to feel like
00:27:24.97\00:27:27.64
we can't even be
close to each other
00:27:27.68\00:27:29.34
because I never know
when it's gonna trigger.
00:27:29.38\00:27:32.58
He's just gonna feel worse.
00:27:32.61\00:27:34.02
And then I try to
tell him, well, you know,
00:27:34.05\00:27:37.09
maybe if you, and it affected,
00:27:37.12\00:27:39.25
it got to the
point where it affected
00:27:39.29\00:27:40.86
our documentary work as well,
00:27:40.89\00:27:44.13
because he
started feeling guilty.
00:27:44.16\00:27:45.79
Should I use this? Can
I do this, can I do that?
00:27:45.83\00:27:47.80
And we contact
lawyers, is this okay?
00:27:47.83\00:27:49.43
Is this legal? And it
was just over the top.
00:27:49.46\00:27:52.97
It was just over
the top sensitivity.
00:27:53.00\00:27:55.20
It almost seems
like with the depression,
00:27:55.24\00:27:57.84
there's a sense, I'm
not trying to diagnose you
00:27:57.87\00:27:59.21
or anybody here.
00:27:59.24\00:28:00.58
I'm just 'cause I
have family members
00:28:00.61\00:28:01.94
who deal with this
OCD, intrusive thoughts.
00:28:01.98\00:28:04.61
And that's
essentially, it seems like
00:28:04.65\00:28:05.98
what you were dealing with.
00:28:06.01\00:28:07.35
And I didn't
realize it at the time.
00:28:07.38\00:28:08.72
But later on looking back on it,
00:28:08.75\00:28:10.09
I realized it was
totally depression
00:28:10.12\00:28:12.12
with probably OCD.
00:28:12.15\00:28:13.49
Not that I'm a
medical professional
00:28:13.52\00:28:14.92
stating that, but
just from the experience,
00:28:14.96\00:28:16.93
that's what it was like
00:28:16.96\00:28:18.29
continual
thoughts on the same lines.
00:28:18.33\00:28:20.16
And I memorized not exaggerating
00:28:20.20\00:28:22.46
at least a thousand verses
to try to fill in, you know,
00:28:22.50\00:28:25.20
as to like claim the promises.
00:28:25.23\00:28:26.80
And I did that and I know
that was a great blessing to me,
00:28:26.84\00:28:30.01
but it was when you have
those continual thoughts,
00:28:30.04\00:28:32.31
it's just, it's a
heavy, heavy experience.
00:28:32.34\00:28:34.18
But looking back on it,
00:28:34.21\00:28:35.84
I'm actually glad
that I went through it.
00:28:35.88\00:28:39.01
I mean, it sounds crazy
00:28:39.05\00:28:40.45
because for a couple of
years, after going through it,
00:28:40.48\00:28:42.75
I would literally get chills
00:28:42.78\00:28:44.52
just thinking
back on those times.
00:28:44.55\00:28:45.95
It was so dark
00:28:45.99\00:28:47.32
and it was so
terrible that I would like,
00:28:47.36\00:28:49.19
"Whoa, man, that was
crazy going through that."
00:28:49.22\00:28:51.29
Like what a, what a
difficult experience,
00:28:51.33\00:28:53.23
but I'm just glad the Lord...
00:28:53.26\00:28:55.06
The dark ages.
Yeah, the dark ages.
00:28:55.10\00:28:57.13
Your 1,260 years
experience, right?
00:28:57.17\00:28:59.53
Wow.
00:28:59.57\00:29:00.90
So, but the fact
that we're sitting here
00:29:00.94\00:29:03.10
and you're talking to us,
00:29:03.14\00:29:04.47
you're obviously not
in that state of mind.
00:29:04.51\00:29:05.84
Yes.
00:29:05.87\00:29:07.21
There came a time
when something happened
00:29:07.24\00:29:09.11
and the Lord began to
bring you out of this.
00:29:09.14\00:29:12.11
Tell us how, what
was the transition?
00:29:12.15\00:29:13.85
How did you reach the point
00:29:13.88\00:29:15.35
to where things began to change?
00:29:15.38\00:29:18.42
We were working on
our health documentary
00:29:18.45\00:29:21.49
and as we were working
on our health documentary,
00:29:21.52\00:29:23.89
you know, we thought we
were doing things healthy
00:29:23.93\00:29:26.26
and all this other stuff.
00:29:26.29\00:29:27.63
But when you interview
00:29:27.66\00:29:29.33
a lot of health
professionals, doctors,
00:29:29.36\00:29:33.13
and all kinds, and
that have a wide spectrum
00:29:33.17\00:29:36.34
of what would you call it?
00:29:36.37\00:29:38.81
Practice.
Practice and knowledge.
00:29:38.84\00:29:41.91
You start to gain a lot.
00:29:41.94\00:29:43.28
And then we always like
00:29:43.31\00:29:46.18
look into things
before we film it.
00:29:46.21\00:29:48.92
And so we're studying a lot more
00:29:48.95\00:29:50.72
and we're actually reading
00:29:50.75\00:29:52.65
a lot of a Spirit
of Prophecy on health
00:29:52.69\00:29:54.89
and well, what
does she have to say
00:29:54.92\00:29:56.46
about these things, you know?
00:29:56.49\00:29:57.83
Thousands of
pages I was reading,
00:29:57.86\00:29:59.19
I was trying to read everything
00:29:59.23\00:30:00.56
that I could find on this
because people have their ideas
00:30:00.60\00:30:02.56
and people think
00:30:02.60\00:30:03.93
whatever the
internet says about health,
00:30:03.97\00:30:05.70
blogs say about health,
that's the truth, right?
00:30:05.73\00:30:08.27
WebMD, you go there and
it will tell you the truth.
00:30:08.30\00:30:10.51
And so like, you just
look at random people's blogs
00:30:10.54\00:30:13.11
and you have all these ideas,
but God has His own standards.
00:30:13.14\00:30:16.98
And then there's real science
00:30:17.01\00:30:18.81
because a lot of
things that people say
00:30:18.85\00:30:20.18
aren't even scientific at all,
00:30:20.22\00:30:21.55
but it's popular
knowledge on a blog or whatever.
00:30:21.58\00:30:23.99
And so... Yeah.
00:30:24.02\00:30:25.35
So then we were
looking into these things
00:30:25.39\00:30:27.92
and Chad also had
like gallbladder issues
00:30:27.96\00:30:32.73
and he didn't
wanna do the surgery
00:30:32.76\00:30:36.36
because his
grandpa, I mean, it's a very,
00:30:36.40\00:30:38.63
it's one of the
most simple surgeries,
00:30:38.67\00:30:40.47
but his grandpa
actually died from it
00:30:40.50\00:30:42.24
because they nicked his
bowels and they didn't know it.
00:30:42.27\00:30:44.67
His grandmas had it,
00:30:44.71\00:30:46.04
his aunts had
it, so he had issues.
00:30:46.07\00:30:48.58
And so one of the
doctors we were interviewing,
00:30:48.61\00:30:51.18
we were actually
staying with her and her family.
00:30:51.21\00:30:53.58
And I was telling her
this about Chad's issues.
00:30:53.62\00:30:57.49
He had hypoglycemia and
all these different things.
00:30:57.52\00:31:00.22
And she said... Migraines.
00:31:00.26\00:31:01.59
Migraines, yep. And so...
00:31:01.62\00:31:04.29
Sounds like you had
the mother load, man.
00:31:04.33\00:31:05.66
He did.
00:31:05.69\00:31:07.03
When I list them out and I say,
00:31:07.06\00:31:08.40
hey, all these
things have been changed
00:31:08.43\00:31:10.20
because of this
lifestyle change.
00:31:10.23\00:31:11.80
It almost sounds
like a bad infomercial,
00:31:11.83\00:31:13.50
like yeah, right.
00:31:13.54\00:31:14.87
Like it could do all
that, but it really has.
00:31:14.90\00:31:16.57
That's amazing, brother. Wow.
00:31:16.60\00:31:19.84
Well, that's how
God works, right?
00:31:19.87\00:31:21.31
Amen.
00:31:21.34\00:31:22.68
So I'm talking to her about this
00:31:22.71\00:31:25.28
and she says,
00:31:25.31\00:31:26.65
"Look, if Chad wants
to save his gallbladder
00:31:26.68\00:31:29.15
and doesn't want
to go through surgery,
00:31:29.18\00:31:30.69
he's going to have to go..."
00:31:30.72\00:31:32.05
Change his diet.
"Change his diet completely."
00:31:32.09\00:31:35.69
And so she said,
00:31:35.72\00:31:37.06
"Why don't you eat
with me while you're here?"
00:31:37.09\00:31:40.46
You know, I'll feed you guys.
00:31:40.50\00:31:42.03
And while you're
filming and we were with them
00:31:42.06\00:31:44.37
for a couple of
weeks, but within days...
00:31:44.40\00:31:48.04
It started, the pain went away.
00:31:48.07\00:31:49.40
My gallbladder pain
went away in a few days.
00:31:49.44\00:31:51.24
And I started having more energy
00:31:51.27\00:31:53.41
than I had ever had.
00:31:53.44\00:31:54.78
Than I had had as a teenager,
00:31:54.81\00:31:56.24
you know, I was 35 at that time.
00:31:56.28\00:31:57.75
And I was like, my
body started feeling so good
00:31:57.78\00:32:02.58
that if I had to go
grab a book out of my car,
00:32:02.62\00:32:05.35
I would run to the car
and not because I was like,
00:32:05.39\00:32:08.19
my body just was
functioning so well.
00:32:08.22\00:32:10.43
And I thought,
this is incredible.
00:32:10.46\00:32:12.93
And then we were
still actually with them.
00:32:12.96\00:32:17.27
Yeah, go ahead. Right.
00:32:17.30\00:32:18.63
But then we came back again.
00:32:18.67\00:32:20.00
So it helped him
physically with the gallbladder,
00:32:20.04\00:32:24.84
with the migraines,
with the hypoglycemia,
00:32:24.87\00:32:26.54
with the joint pain.
00:32:26.57\00:32:27.91
It helped him
in all those areas,
00:32:27.94\00:32:29.28
but he was still depressed.
00:32:29.31\00:32:31.55
And which, it
was just like a wow,
00:32:31.58\00:32:34.68
but it's okay,
because God was preparing him.
00:32:34.72\00:32:37.29
God was like cleansing his body.
00:32:37.32\00:32:39.25
He was preparing him
for what was coming next.
00:32:39.29\00:32:41.42
Because I think if
it was flipped around,
00:32:41.46\00:32:43.83
he wouldn't have
been prepared for it.
00:32:43.86\00:32:45.49
So you know,
00:32:45.53\00:32:46.86
that's why we
need to just trust God
00:32:46.90\00:32:48.23
in every step of the
way and never give up trying
00:32:48.26\00:32:52.13
'cause he could
have just been like,
00:32:52.17\00:32:53.80
"It didn't help my depression.
00:32:53.84\00:32:55.17
What's the point?"
00:32:55.20\00:32:56.54
But it was like,
"I'm gonna keep looking.
00:32:56.57\00:32:58.04
I'm going to keep searching.
I'm going to keep trying this."
00:32:58.07\00:33:00.58
And I thank God that he did that
00:33:00.61\00:33:02.01
because, well, you hear
00:33:02.04\00:33:04.28
how it's helped
other people, right?
00:33:04.31\00:33:05.81
Anyway, so then he
ends up doing that.
00:33:05.85\00:33:08.65
He has all this,
00:33:08.68\00:33:10.02
but the
depression is still there.
00:33:10.05\00:33:11.49
We come back to
their house another time
00:33:11.52\00:33:13.42
and we were watching
something and he heard a quote.
00:33:13.46\00:33:16.32
And this quote, it
sounded kind of extreme.
00:33:16.36\00:33:20.60
But I was, if you
would have told me,
00:33:20.63\00:33:22.00
Chad, the trick to
getting over your depression
00:33:22.03\00:33:24.00
is standing on your
head for two hours a week
00:33:24.03\00:33:26.37
or two hours a day,
I would have done it.
00:33:26.40\00:33:28.17
I'd have been like,
"Hey, whatever, you know,
00:33:28.20\00:33:29.54
I'll do whatever."
00:33:29.57\00:33:30.91
You know, at that point you've
gone through this for so long.
00:33:30.94\00:33:32.27
Right.
00:33:32.31\00:33:33.64
But we heard this
quotation that said,
00:33:33.68\00:33:36.08
you know, we're
coming to the time
00:33:36.11\00:33:37.45
when recipes for cooking
00:33:37.48\00:33:38.81
will not be needed for the food.
00:33:38.85\00:33:40.18
God gave Adam in
his sinless state
00:33:40.22\00:33:42.28
is best for keeping the
body in a sinless state.
00:33:42.32\00:33:45.12
And I thought, wow,
that's such a strange thought.
00:33:45.15\00:33:46.79
And then
there's this other quote
00:33:46.82\00:33:48.69
that talks about in
many cases of sickness,
00:33:48.72\00:33:51.56
this is a quote in
many cases of sickness,
00:33:51.59\00:33:53.36
the very best
remedy is for the patient
00:33:53.40\00:33:55.56
to fast for a meal or two
00:33:55.60\00:33:57.97
that the
overworked organs of digestion
00:33:58.00\00:34:00.50
may have an opportunity to rest.
00:34:00.54\00:34:02.84
Then a fruit diet for a few days
00:34:02.87\00:34:06.27
has often brought great
relief to brain workers.
00:34:06.31\00:34:10.01
And then it goes on to say,
00:34:10.05\00:34:11.38
and then on a
STEMIs or a simple diet
00:34:11.41\00:34:13.35
for a month or two
will reveal to many that
00:34:13.38\00:34:16.72
the path of self
denial is the path to health.
00:34:16.75\00:34:20.02
So I went on a very
simple diet for a time.
00:34:20.06\00:34:23.02
Okay. For a time.
00:34:23.06\00:34:24.39
And I, this is so to
back up a little bit,
00:34:24.43\00:34:28.63
they've done research
and I didn't know about it.
00:34:28.66\00:34:30.00
I tried it.
00:34:30.03\00:34:31.37
I was like, okay, so I'll
eat a fruit diet for a time.
00:34:31.40\00:34:33.64
And then I'll
start transitioning
00:34:33.67\00:34:35.00
back to a simple diet
00:34:35.04\00:34:36.74
for a month or
two, or, you know,
00:34:36.77\00:34:38.27
kind of something
along these lines.
00:34:38.31\00:34:39.67
So within it was January,
00:34:39.71\00:34:41.74
which is the
roughest time of year
00:34:41.78\00:34:43.11
if you're having
seasonal depression,
00:34:43.14\00:34:44.58
although mine was
chronic by this point.
00:34:44.61\00:34:46.21
So it wasn't even seasonal,
but January is about the worst
00:34:46.25\00:34:48.12
it is normally for
somebody if they have that.
00:34:48.15\00:34:51.35
And then I began
to eat a fruit diet
00:34:51.39\00:34:53.92
for a number of days.
00:34:53.96\00:34:55.29
And within two weeks, my
depression began to go away.
00:34:55.32\00:34:58.83
For the first time in two years,
00:34:58.86\00:35:00.96
even though I had a
10 years off and on,
00:35:01.00\00:35:02.60
but the last two years solid
00:35:02.63\00:35:04.73
that for the
first time in two years,
00:35:04.77\00:35:06.17
I could choose
where I focus my thoughts.
00:35:06.20\00:35:09.10
Instead of having them
00:35:09.14\00:35:10.47
constantly go
back to these things.
00:35:10.51\00:35:12.71
And as I did, I thought,
man, this is interesting.
00:35:12.74\00:35:15.71
I didn't say anything to
Fadia because it was like,
00:35:15.74\00:35:17.58
"Ah, maybe it's just a good
day or something like that."
00:35:17.61\00:35:20.12
But then it got
better and better and better.
00:35:20.15\00:35:22.68
And then I mean,
00:35:22.72\00:35:24.62
we can't really fill in all that
00:35:24.65\00:35:26.19
we did within a very
short show to explain it all.
00:35:26.22\00:35:29.56
But we, what ended up
happening was we thought,
00:35:29.59\00:35:32.69
why did this work?
00:35:32.73\00:35:34.36
Why did this make such
a difference in my life?
00:35:34.40\00:35:36.03
Then I began to
look at the research.
00:35:36.06\00:35:37.40
I love science and going
00:35:37.43\00:35:38.87
right to the
scientific research,
00:35:38.90\00:35:40.34
going to the
scientific journals,
00:35:40.37\00:35:41.74
began to study
00:35:41.77\00:35:43.10
what's called the
gut brain connection.
00:35:43.14\00:35:46.71
And researchers are
finding that many of the things
00:35:46.74\00:35:50.45
that can take place
within our gut, bacteria,
00:35:50.48\00:35:53.35
various things
what's going on in the gut
00:35:53.38\00:35:55.32
can actually positively
00:35:55.35\00:35:57.05
or negatively
affect your mental state.
00:35:57.09\00:36:00.96
And so as my gut began
to heal, remember, you know,
00:36:00.99\00:36:04.09
10 years before that in Iceland,
00:36:04.13\00:36:05.49
I had had this stomach trouble.
00:36:05.53\00:36:07.00
And so here I was
still struggling with it.
00:36:07.03\00:36:09.66
When my gut healed,
00:36:09.70\00:36:11.37
my brain ended up
actually healing at that point.
00:36:11.40\00:36:14.24
As we studied that out,
00:36:14.27\00:36:15.60
we then began to
present it around the world.
00:36:15.64\00:36:18.54
The first place we presented,
00:36:18.57\00:36:19.91
it was in London or New England.
00:36:19.94\00:36:22.04
And while we were there
00:36:22.08\00:36:23.41
and then it just
kind of began to take off
00:36:23.45\00:36:25.31
and we began to make a series
00:36:25.35\00:36:27.12
called simply the
gut brain connection.
00:36:27.15\00:36:29.12
Showing the research
studies on the various things
00:36:29.15\00:36:31.65
we can do to have a healthy gut.
00:36:31.69\00:36:33.46
And even in that area,
00:36:33.49\00:36:35.52
people come up with
all kinds of things.
00:36:35.56\00:36:36.93
You'll hear on like,
00:36:36.96\00:36:38.29
"Oh, for the gut
brain connection, use this."
00:36:38.33\00:36:39.66
And you're like, "No,
00:36:39.69\00:36:41.03
the research
actually says don't use that."
00:36:41.06\00:36:42.50
You know?
00:36:42.53\00:36:43.87
And so the point is, but
we were given a standard.
00:36:43.90\00:36:47.30
We were told long
ago, all the research,
00:36:47.34\00:36:50.31
almost all the research
before it ever came out.
00:36:50.34\00:36:52.81
And now the
scientific studies sound like
00:36:52.84\00:36:54.61
they're actually
quoting these wonderful messages
00:36:54.64\00:36:57.41
that we were given
over a hundred years ago.
00:36:57.45\00:36:58.98
It literally
just changed my life.
00:36:59.01\00:37:01.52
And I'm so thankful
that I went through it
00:37:01.55\00:37:05.02
because I wouldn't
have been willing to do this
00:37:05.05\00:37:10.03
if I hadn't gone through
so much suffering for so long.
00:37:10.06\00:37:13.03
So all of this stemmed
from a quote that you found,
00:37:13.06\00:37:16.83
I guess, was it
Ministry of Healing?
00:37:16.87\00:37:18.33
Ministry of
Healing is one of them.
00:37:18.37\00:37:19.70
Yes.
00:37:19.73\00:37:21.07
And another one's
Manuscript Releases.
00:37:21.10\00:37:22.44
And to think
that this information
00:37:22.47\00:37:25.17
was given by God,
00:37:25.21\00:37:27.31
to someone over a
hundred years ago,
00:37:27.34\00:37:30.38
back in the late 1800s.
00:37:30.41\00:37:31.75
And it sounded
like quackery back then.
00:37:31.78\00:37:33.82
Actually it sounded
like quackery 20 years ago
00:37:33.85\00:37:36.18
until the research
came out and showed like,
00:37:36.22\00:37:38.05
no, no, no, no, no,
that's cutting edge.
00:37:38.09\00:37:40.32
So some of that
stuff that like people read
00:37:40.36\00:37:42.06
and they're like, "Yeah,
I wish that wasn't written."
00:37:42.09\00:37:44.59
You know, it turns out no,
it was just before its time.
00:37:44.63\00:37:47.13
When the research comes out
00:37:47.16\00:37:48.50
it is literally
life-changing science.
00:37:48.53\00:37:50.60
That's amazing. Okay.
So let's talk with this.
00:37:50.63\00:37:51.97
I know we don't have
00:37:52.00\00:37:53.34
a lot of time to
get into details,
00:37:53.37\00:37:54.90
but give us kind
of a quick synoptic
00:37:54.94\00:37:57.21
kind of juiced
version of the diet
00:37:57.24\00:37:59.44
that you kind of went through
00:37:59.47\00:38:01.18
in order to get
from point A to point B?
00:38:01.21\00:38:02.74
Yes.
00:38:02.78\00:38:04.11
So one of the
things that I tried,
00:38:04.15\00:38:05.48
which didn't
totally work for me,
00:38:05.51\00:38:06.85
but there's something
00:38:06.88\00:38:08.22
called the
elimination challenge diet.
00:38:08.25\00:38:09.68
And you know,
when you give out our,
00:38:09.72\00:38:12.75
I can send it
to people for free.
00:38:12.79\00:38:14.32
It's basically a
list of things to eat
00:38:14.36\00:38:17.19
and a list of things to avoid.
00:38:17.23\00:38:18.56
Many of the things to
avoid are actually good foods,
00:38:18.59\00:38:21.13
but there's some of
the most common allergens.
00:38:21.16\00:38:23.06
And so it's a
temporary diet to find out
00:38:23.10\00:38:25.23
what may be
troubling your stomach.
00:38:25.27\00:38:28.17
And it could be
something totally healthy,
00:38:28.20\00:38:29.70
like some people
are allergic to apples.
00:38:29.74\00:38:31.07
Right.
00:38:31.11\00:38:32.44
That doesn't
mean apples are bad.
00:38:32.47\00:38:33.81
They're great fruit, but
if you're allergic to them,
00:38:33.84\00:38:35.74
well, they're
bad for you, right?
00:38:35.78\00:38:37.15
And so part of it is
finding the offending foods
00:38:37.18\00:38:40.18
for your personal body
00:38:40.22\00:38:41.95
is an important
issue for people.
00:38:41.98\00:38:43.92
And so that's one aspect.
00:38:43.95\00:38:46.65
I tried that didn't
really actually work for me,
00:38:46.69\00:38:49.66
but a simple diet once again.
00:38:49.69\00:38:51.59
So this will sound crazy,
00:38:51.63\00:38:54.10
but I have, I
actually have a video
00:38:54.13\00:38:55.46
on YouTube about it,
00:38:55.50\00:38:56.83
the research on
how certain spices
00:38:56.87\00:39:00.24
can actually negatively
impact the lining of the gut.
00:39:00.27\00:39:04.77
And as they negatively
impact the lining of the gut,
00:39:04.81\00:39:07.18
they can actually
cause inflammation
00:39:07.21\00:39:08.84
and they have
something called IED.
00:39:08.88\00:39:14.12
And what that is
intermittent explosive disorder,
00:39:14.15\00:39:19.35
where someone's
just furious and angry,
00:39:19.39\00:39:21.82
and certain food
00:39:21.86\00:39:23.19
can actually potentially
that inflammation in the gut
00:39:23.22\00:39:26.53
may actually promote
people's anger problems,
00:39:26.56\00:39:29.16
their anxiety, their depression,
00:39:29.20\00:39:31.33
these things, though,
they may have high levels
00:39:31.37\00:39:33.60
of antioxidants in those spices,
00:39:33.64\00:39:35.54
they can also increase
00:39:35.57\00:39:36.91
the chances that you
have this inflammation
00:39:36.94\00:39:38.94
in your gut, even though
00:39:38.97\00:39:40.31
there is strangely
enough anti-inflammatory foods,
00:39:40.34\00:39:42.98
they can cause
inflammation to the gut.
00:39:43.01\00:39:44.78
And as they do that,
00:39:44.81\00:39:46.15
I don't want to
get too technical,
00:39:46.18\00:39:47.52
but they can cause
things to actually pass through
00:39:47.55\00:39:49.65
undigested proteins and bacteria
00:39:49.68\00:39:51.55
to pass through the
lining of your intestines,
00:39:51.59\00:39:54.12
right into the bloodstream
and cause inflammation
00:39:54.16\00:39:56.86
in the rest of the body
00:39:56.89\00:39:58.23
and inflammation affects
things like diabetes, cancer,
00:39:58.26\00:40:01.50
heart disease
00:40:01.53\00:40:02.86
and all of these
different things.
00:40:02.90\00:40:04.23
And so... And depression.
00:40:04.27\00:40:05.60
Is this something, is
this what they call leaky gut,
00:40:05.63\00:40:07.80
or somebody got
some leaky gut...
00:40:07.84\00:40:09.17
It is what they call leaky gut.
00:40:09.20\00:40:10.54
And I know for some time doctors
00:40:10.57\00:40:11.91
didn't think it was a reality,
00:40:11.94\00:40:13.27
but now there's
study after study,
00:40:13.31\00:40:14.64
after study research
00:40:14.68\00:40:16.01
and in peer
reviewed scientific journals
00:40:16.04\00:40:17.38
that reveal that this
is a legitimate issue.
00:40:17.41\00:40:19.61
And so certain foods
can increase your likelihood
00:40:19.65\00:40:22.48
of having leaky gut,
00:40:22.52\00:40:23.85
that things pass
through into the bloodstream.
00:40:23.89\00:40:25.45
And so as I get rid
of those and by the way,
00:40:25.49\00:40:30.83
it doesn't go away in a day.
00:40:30.86\00:40:32.83
Just like, for instance,
00:40:32.86\00:40:34.20
if you cut yourself on your arm,
00:40:34.23\00:40:35.66
does the inflammation,
the redness, the swelling,
00:40:35.70\00:40:38.17
if you're
actually cut, does the...
00:40:38.20\00:40:39.93
You wake up the next
day and well, no more cut.
00:40:39.97\00:40:42.10
No, it takes days
and days to finally heal.
00:40:42.14\00:40:44.37
So too with the gut
that is, we eat these foods.
00:40:44.41\00:40:46.78
They may not
affect us the day of,
00:40:46.81\00:40:49.98
it actually may take time
for it to move through the,
00:40:50.01\00:40:52.71
you know, intestines.
00:40:52.75\00:40:54.22
And finally they
caused that inflammation.
00:40:54.25\00:40:56.05
And also you think,
well, I don't see a difference
00:40:56.08\00:40:58.42
when I eat those
spicy foods today
00:40:58.45\00:41:00.72
and tomorrow
00:41:00.76\00:41:02.09
I'm just the same
way I was yesterday.
00:41:02.12\00:41:03.83
So we did a test
of avoiding spices
00:41:03.86\00:41:07.33
to just to test it.
00:41:07.36\00:41:09.00
'Cause we didn't know
which ones would do it.
00:41:09.03\00:41:10.87
So we decided we were gonna go
00:41:10.90\00:41:12.27
a whole month
without any spices,
00:41:12.30\00:41:15.40
just to see what
would, and by the way,
00:41:15.44\00:41:16.91
someone might be thinking like,
00:41:16.94\00:41:18.27
what does this guy
know about spicy food?
00:41:18.31\00:41:19.91
Like what does he know?
00:41:19.94\00:41:21.28
I mean, we would
eat things like habanero
00:41:21.31\00:41:24.01
and habanero makes a jalapeno
seem like a carrot, right?
00:41:24.05\00:41:27.92
Like, I mean, it's just
like habaneros just like,
00:41:27.95\00:41:29.65
boom in spices.
00:41:29.68\00:41:31.02
On another level of heat.
00:41:31.05\00:41:32.39
It's a whole new,
I loved any kind of,
00:41:32.42\00:41:33.89
you know, like Indian food,
00:41:33.92\00:41:35.32
Thai food, all
these, I loved all this.
00:41:35.36\00:41:36.69
So I'm sometimes...
00:41:36.73\00:41:38.06
We had Thai food at our wedding.
00:41:38.09\00:41:39.43
Yeah, Thai food at our
wedding. We love spicy food.
00:41:39.46\00:41:41.00
We've been around the
world, you know, but we decided,
00:41:41.03\00:41:43.90
hey, we're
gonna see what happens
00:41:43.93\00:41:45.27
if we avoid
spicy food for a month.
00:41:45.30\00:41:47.90
And just to be
honest, I wish this weren't,
00:41:47.94\00:41:50.27
but I'm going to
tell you weren't true.
00:41:50.31\00:41:51.64
But my wife and I,
00:41:51.67\00:41:53.01
we struggled with
arguing all the time
00:41:53.04\00:41:55.81
in our marriage all the time.
00:41:55.84\00:41:57.95
And we didn't want to,
00:41:57.98\00:41:59.31
we're reading
our Bibles every day.
00:41:59.35\00:42:00.72
We say every night before bed,
00:42:00.75\00:42:02.68
"Hey, I'm sorry for doing that."
00:42:02.72\00:42:04.05
And we'd apologize.
00:42:04.09\00:42:05.42
We pray and we did not
wanna do it the next day,
00:42:05.45\00:42:07.56
but we would do it.
00:42:07.59\00:42:08.92
And like over and over and over.
00:42:08.96\00:42:10.46
And I hated it.
I hated doing that.
00:42:10.49\00:42:12.46
And a lot of times as wives,
00:42:12.49\00:42:14.00
we want to please our
husbands and we cook, right?
00:42:14.03\00:42:16.60
And so he tends to like,
"Oh, that was really good."
00:42:16.63\00:42:20.10
So you do it more
and you do it more
00:42:20.14\00:42:22.30
and you don't realize
you're making him sick.
00:42:22.34\00:42:25.07
You know, it's just like,
you're pleasing his tongue,
00:42:25.11\00:42:27.11
but you're making
him absolutely sick.
00:42:27.14\00:42:29.08
And so then his
sickness turns around
00:42:29.11\00:42:30.65
and hurts you then, right?
00:42:30.68\00:42:32.41
And so, it's a
temptation as women,
00:42:32.45\00:42:35.48
but I think, you know,
00:42:35.52\00:42:38.02
keeping it simple ends
up being such a blessing.
00:42:38.05\00:42:42.46
It's like such a blessing.
00:42:42.49\00:42:43.83
I mean, I'd
never go back to that
00:42:43.86\00:42:45.53
because Chad always says it
00:42:45.56\00:42:47.36
when somebody says,
well, don't you ever feel like
00:42:47.40\00:42:48.96
he's like, I'd
rather have to have it.
00:42:49.00\00:42:50.33
Don't you miss
this food or whatever?
00:42:50.37\00:42:51.73
Yeah.
00:42:51.77\00:42:53.10
So there's people, I
just have to jump here
00:42:53.13\00:42:54.47
and add this, there's people
00:42:54.50\00:42:55.84
that's going to be watching
and think, wait a second.
00:42:55.87\00:42:57.21
But a habanero is a plant,
00:42:57.24\00:42:58.67
you know, God
created it and it's,
00:42:58.71\00:43:00.28
you know, we can eat
these types of things, right?
00:43:00.31\00:43:02.18
So what I hear you
saying, when you say spices,
00:43:02.21\00:43:04.21
you're not
necessarily talking about like,
00:43:04.25\00:43:05.85
you know, onion
powder, garlic powder,
00:43:05.88\00:43:07.55
or maybe you are, I don't know,
00:43:07.58\00:43:08.92
clarify what you mean by spices?
00:43:08.95\00:43:10.29
So I can't tell you exactly
which ones will impact you,
00:43:10.32\00:43:13.99
but so I'll tell
you what happened.
00:43:14.02\00:43:15.76
And then this will
give a little idea.
00:43:15.79\00:43:17.16
So we got rid of all
spices for one month.
00:43:17.19\00:43:19.96
And the next day we argued
just as much as the day before.
00:43:20.00\00:43:24.93
And the next day we did too
00:43:24.97\00:43:26.60
and the day after that,
but I don't remember it.
00:43:26.63\00:43:28.84
We don't know
exactly when it was,
00:43:28.87\00:43:30.21
but it was like
seven to 14 days.
00:43:30.24\00:43:32.11
Within a week to two
weeks, we started to calm down.
00:43:32.14\00:43:35.74
We started to become
more patient with each other,
00:43:35.78\00:43:37.35
more loving,
00:43:37.38\00:43:38.71
the things that
formerly would make us angry,
00:43:38.75\00:43:40.38
we would maybe chuckle out,
and our relationship got better
00:43:40.42\00:43:43.45
and better and
better for a month.
00:43:43.49\00:43:45.25
And so we
didn't stop at a month.
00:43:45.29\00:43:47.72
We went to two months and
then we had some folks who,
00:43:47.76\00:43:51.29
from another country or,
you know, different background.
00:43:51.33\00:43:52.66
And they're like,
00:43:52.69\00:43:54.03
"Hey, you want to
go out eat with us."
00:43:54.06\00:43:55.40
And you know, we like to
have good time with people.
00:43:55.43\00:43:56.77
So we went out and it was
a very, very spicy restaurant
00:43:56.80\00:43:59.90
and I loved it.
00:43:59.93\00:44:01.27
It was really
good. It was super tasty.
00:44:01.30\00:44:03.44
And the day after the day
we ate it, nothing changed.
00:44:03.47\00:44:06.88
We were the exact
same. We were happy.
00:44:06.91\00:44:09.08
And the next day I
spoke totally rude to Fadia.
00:44:09.11\00:44:11.28
The next morning even.
00:44:11.31\00:44:12.65
The next morning I
spoke totally rude to her.
00:44:12.68\00:44:14.58
She had
something with someone that
00:44:14.62\00:44:16.25
she got frustrated and
she didn't say anything.
00:44:16.28\00:44:18.72
She held it in
like a good Christian,
00:44:18.75\00:44:20.19
hold it in and get
angry in your heart.
00:44:20.22\00:44:21.79
Well, no one was
there to do anything,
00:44:21.82\00:44:24.63
but I get so angry that
00:44:24.66\00:44:27.96
I didn't know
what to do with it.
00:44:28.00\00:44:29.46
And I started to cry
because I was just like,
00:44:29.50\00:44:31.23
"Lord, why can't I just sit
00:44:31.27\00:44:34.00
and think through and
like rationalize this."
00:44:34.04\00:44:37.17
And I couldn't, I
was just so angry.
00:44:37.21\00:44:38.97
I got on my knees
and cried and like,
00:44:39.01\00:44:41.14
Lord, help me take this away.
00:44:41.18\00:44:42.61
I don't
understand these feelings.
00:44:42.64\00:44:44.71
And I was like, I
gotta go to church, you know?
00:44:44.75\00:44:47.05
And so then that happened.
00:44:47.08\00:44:48.78
And then later on,
00:44:48.82\00:44:50.15
I relayed this
to him and I said,
00:44:50.19\00:44:51.52
do you know what
happened to me today?
00:44:51.55\00:44:52.89
And then he was rude again.
00:44:52.92\00:44:54.92
And then I said,
what's wrong with you?
00:44:54.96\00:44:57.09
Why are you acting like this?
00:44:57.13\00:44:58.93
And then he put the
two and two together,
00:44:58.96\00:45:00.73
the way he's
acting, the way I'm acting.
00:45:00.76\00:45:02.36
And I said, "That
spicy food we ate?
00:45:02.40\00:45:05.60
That's what he said.
I said, "We knew it."
00:45:05.63\00:45:07.10
And I said, "You know
we ate yesterday, right?"
00:45:07.14\00:45:08.60
And she said,
"No." And I said, yeah,
00:45:08.64\00:45:11.14
I think so now this is
a nice anecdotal story.
00:45:11.17\00:45:13.04
But we have tried
this over and over and over
00:45:13.07\00:45:15.78
with near a 100%
correlation in our lives.
00:45:15.81\00:45:18.78
And then as we
traveled in the world,
00:45:18.81\00:45:20.15
talking to people about
it and showing the research,
00:45:20.18\00:45:22.32
we have had people
contact us after hearing it
00:45:22.35\00:45:24.82
and implementing these things.
00:45:24.85\00:45:26.19
So I can't say
exactly what it is,
00:45:26.22\00:45:28.22
but doing these
00:45:28.26\00:45:29.62
kind of
elimination diets for a time,
00:45:29.66\00:45:31.93
you eliminate them.
00:45:31.96\00:45:33.29
And then you,
if you try it again
00:45:33.33\00:45:34.66
and you see an effect
within the next few days,
00:45:34.70\00:45:36.67
you can see, oh, that
is actually impacting.
00:45:36.70\00:45:38.77
We noticed that it
helped us with levels of lust,
00:45:38.80\00:45:41.24
levels of anger, uh,
anxiety and depression,
00:45:41.27\00:45:44.61
literally it changed our lives.
00:45:44.64\00:45:46.41
And so that's part of it
also eating a very simple
00:45:46.44\00:45:49.51
plant-based diet.
00:45:49.54\00:45:50.88
What's called a whole food diet.
00:45:50.91\00:45:52.35
So that means not
refined simple foods,
00:45:52.38\00:45:54.52
but a whole
food diet in general,
00:45:54.55\00:45:56.55
that's our lifestyle.
00:45:56.58\00:45:57.92
And as we did
that, we cooked food.
00:45:57.95\00:46:00.09
It's not that we
don't eat cooked food,
00:46:00.12\00:46:01.59
but it's non refined
cooked food generally.
00:46:01.62\00:46:03.93
And so it began to
just settle us down
00:46:03.96\00:46:06.70
and it changed our lives.
00:46:06.73\00:46:08.26
And then the
Lord opened the door
00:46:08.30\00:46:09.63
for having a ministry,
00:46:09.66\00:46:11.00
teaching people
about these things.
00:46:11.03\00:46:12.37
And so, that's one of the things
00:46:12.40\00:46:13.74
we do is travel
around teaching people,
00:46:13.77\00:46:15.10
because we wanna see,
00:46:15.14\00:46:16.64
I want other people to
have happy marriages, happy.
00:46:16.67\00:46:19.47
You know, some
parents may be literally,
00:46:19.51\00:46:21.51
they may be abusive
because they have stuff
00:46:21.54\00:46:23.98
going on in their head
00:46:24.01\00:46:25.35
because of what's
actually going on in their gut.
00:46:25.38\00:46:27.18
I mean, it's
amazing. That's amazing.
00:46:27.22\00:46:29.18
So we have about five minutes
00:46:29.22\00:46:30.55
before we go to
the address roll.
00:46:30.59\00:46:31.92
If you're just now
joining us in the last part,
00:46:31.95\00:46:33.49
we're talking with
Chad and Fadia Kruezer
00:46:33.52\00:46:35.42
from Anchor Point Films,
00:46:35.46\00:46:36.79
and God has
transformed their life.
00:46:36.83\00:46:39.59
Chad having gone through a
series of serious depression
00:46:39.63\00:46:43.47
and just by simply
doing an elimination diet,
00:46:43.50\00:46:46.74
the gut brain connection,
you changed your gut health.
00:46:46.77\00:46:49.54
It helped your brain health.
00:46:49.57\00:46:50.91
You no longer suffer
from anxiety and depression
00:46:50.94\00:46:53.91
and all these things
that you were dealing with.
00:46:53.94\00:46:55.58
It's helped your
marriage. That's powerful.
00:46:55.61\00:46:57.81
It's changed your
outlook on marriage
00:46:57.85\00:46:59.71
and to be around each other.
00:46:59.75\00:47:01.08
And so now God is using you.
00:47:01.12\00:47:02.88
We have about
almost five minutes,
00:47:02.92\00:47:04.25
a little over,
00:47:04.29\00:47:05.62
a little less
than five minutes here.
00:47:05.65\00:47:06.99
Let's talk about how God
is using you to share this
00:47:07.02\00:47:08.79
and to help others
with this information
00:47:08.82\00:47:10.93
that God has shared with you?
00:47:10.96\00:47:12.29
So we began to,
00:47:12.33\00:47:14.33
I shared it the first
time Fadia was praying
00:47:14.36\00:47:16.56
because anybody who's
been through depression,
00:47:16.60\00:47:18.87
it's kind of an
embarrassing thing.
00:47:18.90\00:47:20.57
You know, it's
like, you feel like
00:47:20.60\00:47:21.94
I don't wanna tell
people that I've been depressed.
00:47:21.97\00:47:23.94
You know, even though
I was terribly depressed,
00:47:23.97\00:47:25.41
you try to just cover it up.
00:47:25.44\00:47:26.78
But she was praying.
00:47:26.81\00:47:28.14
I was speaking on some
of the research behind it
00:47:28.18\00:47:30.58
and it was, you know, I mean,
00:47:30.61\00:47:31.98
there were quite
a few people there
00:47:32.01\00:47:33.35
and she's praying.
00:47:33.38\00:47:34.72
She's like, God help him
to share his testimony on it.
00:47:34.75\00:47:36.82
And the Lord broke
through the stubborn old me
00:47:36.85\00:47:39.05
and I shared my testimony.
00:47:39.09\00:47:40.92
We're in
England, Northern England
00:47:40.96\00:47:42.29
for, at that time.
00:47:42.32\00:47:43.66
And as I shared that testimony,
00:47:43.69\00:47:45.03
I realized that it
touched people's hearts way
00:47:45.06\00:47:47.60
more than the research.
00:47:47.63\00:47:48.96
The research is powerful,
but a personal testimony,
00:47:49.00\00:47:52.03
when you hear a
personal testimony,
00:47:52.07\00:47:53.40
you think, "Hey, if
that worked for you,
00:47:53.44\00:47:54.77
maybe it could work for me."
00:47:54.80\00:47:56.14
That's right.
00:47:56.17\00:47:57.51
And like, we would
rather not tell people about
00:47:57.54\00:47:59.14
all our arguing and
those kinds of things.
00:47:59.17\00:48:01.34
I'd rather be
like, "Oh, we've lived
00:48:01.38\00:48:02.71
a really perfect life together."
00:48:02.74\00:48:04.08
But there's
somebody watching right now
00:48:04.11\00:48:05.45
that's going,
00:48:05.48\00:48:06.82
hey, you're looking at
their wife or their husband.
00:48:06.85\00:48:08.18
We argue all the time.
00:48:08.22\00:48:09.55
Maybe we should
try this diet, right?
00:48:09.58\00:48:10.92
Yeah.
00:48:10.95\00:48:12.29
And I say like,
listen, it is worth trying.
00:48:12.32\00:48:15.46
What if it works?
00:48:15.49\00:48:16.83
I mean like,
what if you can live
00:48:16.86\00:48:18.19
a happier life for
the rest of your life?
00:48:18.23\00:48:19.63
I mean, I believe depression is,
00:48:19.66\00:48:21.40
there are other aspects.
00:48:21.43\00:48:22.83
Like we said, exercise,
sunlight, you know, rest,
00:48:22.86\00:48:25.33
getting away from drugs.
00:48:25.37\00:48:26.70
All of these
things are important too,
00:48:26.74\00:48:28.07
but I was doing those.
00:48:28.10\00:48:29.44
So somebody else
may be struggling with
00:48:29.47\00:48:30.81
some of the other issues
00:48:30.84\00:48:32.17
and that's
causing their depression.
00:48:32.21\00:48:33.54
But the thing
that I was struggling
00:48:33.58\00:48:34.91
with was the gut issue.
00:48:34.94\00:48:36.28
And a lot of people
have gut issues these days.
00:48:36.31\00:48:37.65
Oh, for sure. I
mean, tons of people.
00:48:37.68\00:48:39.01
And in part, because
of all the craziness,
00:48:39.05\00:48:41.02
that's in the food
chain, it's not the right word,
00:48:41.05\00:48:43.12
but in the stores, you know,
00:48:43.15\00:48:44.55
in the grocery
stores on the shelves.
00:48:44.59\00:48:46.15
And so learning
to do these things,
00:48:46.19\00:48:47.52
it changed my life.
00:48:47.56\00:48:48.89
And as we were sharing
these things with people,
00:48:48.92\00:48:50.39
we wanted to do kind of like
00:48:50.43\00:48:51.76
a YouTube
channel to teach people.
00:48:51.79\00:48:54.30
Yeah, go on. But
before we do that.
00:48:54.33\00:48:55.66
We were praying, we
were asking the Lord,
00:48:55.70\00:48:58.13
"Lord, if You really
want us to share these things,
00:48:58.17\00:49:00.47
and this is all legitimate,
it's not just our thing.
00:49:00.50\00:49:03.87
Then You open doors."
00:49:03.91\00:49:05.31
And we specifically asked
for some doors to be opened
00:49:05.34\00:49:09.18
within the medical sphere.
00:49:09.21\00:49:11.98
Like medical professionals
and things like that,
00:49:12.01\00:49:14.28
just to legitimize it, you know,
00:49:14.32\00:49:16.32
like if this is legitimate.
00:49:16.35\00:49:19.02
Science and all of
that, then you do that.
00:49:19.05\00:49:21.26
And in short order, we
got call after call on,
00:49:21.29\00:49:24.43
"Oh, come to this
medical conference
00:49:24.46\00:49:29.40
or something,
come speak at this,
00:49:29.43\00:49:30.83
come speak at that."
00:49:30.87\00:49:32.20
And it's just like
one after another people
00:49:32.23\00:49:33.97
wanted to have us come speak
on the gut brain connection.
00:49:34.00\00:49:36.71
And we had hardly
told anybody about it,
00:49:36.74\00:49:39.21
but enough had heard that
00:49:39.24\00:49:41.28
they started to have
us come out for that.
00:49:41.31\00:49:43.81
And then Chad was able
to share his testimony,
00:49:43.85\00:49:47.78
which made an impact on people.
00:49:47.82\00:49:49.15
You wouldn't believe
00:49:49.18\00:49:50.52
how many people have
contacted us and said,
00:49:50.55\00:49:52.35
"This has been
such a blessing for me."
00:49:52.39\00:49:54.12
And how it's
changed their lives.
00:49:54.16\00:49:56.66
You know, we even had doctors
00:49:56.69\00:49:58.03
come and tell us how
it changed their lives.
00:49:58.06\00:50:00.13
Absolutely.
00:50:00.16\00:50:01.50
And so, as we were doing it
00:50:01.53\00:50:03.83
then COVID hit
and long story short,
00:50:03.87\00:50:06.87
we couldn't travel anymore
00:50:06.90\00:50:08.50
because not
because we weren't willing,
00:50:08.54\00:50:09.87
but because
everything shut down.
00:50:09.90\00:50:11.24
And so as it all shut
down the door opened too,
00:50:11.27\00:50:13.78
we thought, man,
00:50:13.81\00:50:15.14
we still wanna
share with people.
00:50:15.18\00:50:16.51
And the Lord opened the door.
00:50:16.54\00:50:17.88
We live out in the country
and we started a ministry
00:50:17.91\00:50:19.81
on YouTube called
Health and Homestead.
00:50:19.85\00:50:22.68
People just look up
Health and Homestead.
00:50:22.72\00:50:25.45
We have some of the things
that we've just talked about
00:50:25.49\00:50:27.26
here on that,
00:50:27.29\00:50:28.62
a little bit of the
gut brain connection.
00:50:28.66\00:50:30.19
And we'll have more
coming out in the future,
00:50:30.23\00:50:31.93
but sharing with
people around the world now
00:50:31.96\00:50:35.30
simply even though
we still travel now,
00:50:35.33\00:50:36.97
'cause things
are opening up again,
00:50:37.00\00:50:38.43
but being able to
share with people both
00:50:38.47\00:50:40.10
about the blessings of
spending time in the country
00:50:40.14\00:50:42.74
about health and also
about how they can be healthier,
00:50:42.77\00:50:47.44
happier people
that the health message
00:50:47.48\00:50:49.14
we're told.
00:50:49.18\00:50:50.51
One of the reasons
00:50:50.55\00:50:51.88
we were given the health message
00:50:51.91\00:50:53.25
was to make us happy.
00:50:53.28\00:50:54.98
A lot of times
we're afraid of it.
00:50:55.02\00:50:56.35
I know I was,
00:50:56.38\00:50:57.72
when this doctor
told me you know,
00:50:57.75\00:50:59.09
to change my lifestyle,
00:50:59.12\00:51:00.46
I didn't want to
'cause we were like,
00:51:00.49\00:51:01.82
"Ah, no, I like what I'm doing."
00:51:01.86\00:51:03.19
Right. But it changed my life.
00:51:03.22\00:51:04.69
That's amazing. Praise the Lord.
00:51:04.73\00:51:07.10
It's just like to pray for that
00:51:07.13\00:51:09.23
clock to give us
some more time, right?
00:51:09.26\00:51:11.50
There's just so
much to talk about
00:51:11.53\00:51:12.87
and so little time to do it.
00:51:12.90\00:51:14.24
You guys have
been such a blessing.
00:51:14.27\00:51:15.84
We're not quite finished yet,
but we're gonna actually go to
00:51:15.87\00:51:19.34
an address roll
in just a moment.
00:51:19.37\00:51:21.08
If you wanna know
how to get a hold of
00:51:21.11\00:51:22.94
Chad and Fadia
and Anchor Point Films
00:51:22.98\00:51:26.01
and their ministry,
00:51:26.05\00:51:27.38
you want to know more
about Health and Homestead.
00:51:27.42\00:51:28.95
We're going to
give you an address roll
00:51:28.98\00:51:30.75
here in just a moment.
00:51:30.79\00:51:32.12
And so don't go anywhere,
we're going to come back
00:51:32.15\00:51:33.92
on the other side
of this address roll
00:51:33.96\00:51:35.29
and tie up this interview.
00:51:35.32\00:51:37.03
But this is important,
as you have heard the story,
00:51:37.06\00:51:40.80
it works it's proof.
00:51:40.83\00:51:42.93
And so here's how
you can contact them
00:51:42.96\00:51:45.53
through Anchor
Point Films Ministry.
00:51:45.57\00:51:47.37
If you would like to
reach or to know more about
00:51:50.41\00:51:52.87
Anchor Point Films,
you can contact them
00:51:52.91\00:51:55.18
at (708) 285-5433.
00:51:55.21\00:51:59.35
That's (708) 285-5433.
00:51:59.38\00:52:03.32
You can also mail
them at PO Box 960,
00:52:03.35\00:52:06.99
White Cloud, Missouri 49349.
00:52:07.02\00:52:10.66
You can also
visit their website,
00:52:10.69\00:52:12.26
anchorpointfilms.com.
00:52:12.29\00:52:14.53
That's anchorpointfilms.com.
00:52:14.56\00:52:17.77
You can also email them at
anchorpointfilms@gmail.com.
00:52:17.80\00:52:22.80