As you're well aware,
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we're living in
unprecedented times.
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Join us now for
today's special program.
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Removing pain
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Lord, let my words
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Heal a heart that hurts
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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Hello. Welcome to our Today.
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We are going to connect kids
with their Jesus, their Savior,
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and I am so delighted to
co-host with Shelley Quinn,
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who is a
God-fearing wonderful person
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that loves Jesus, don't you?
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Oh, I do and you also.
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I guess I should call you
Aunt Francine on this program.
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Yes.
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And we're so delighted
that we have our guest today
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and it's Rich Aguilera,
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and he's also
known as the mud guy.
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And, I think you
might be telling us
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a little bit more about that?
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Sounds like a plan. Rich.
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I'll tell you what,
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I know you had a
difficult time getting here
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because you had
some car trouble,
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but you look wide
awake and I love your hat.
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Everybody will
recognize the hat because...
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I'm ready for any adventure now.
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3ABN Kids Network, you
are the Bible treasure guy.
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Yep. I just love it.
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And you know what?
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We actually
have a third co-host,
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Rich is our guest.
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But we have a third co-host
and she's sleeping on the job,
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Ms. Ginger over here.
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We're glad that Ginger is,
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I think she is sound asleep.
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Yeah, this is
her nap time. Yeah.
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And she likes resting,
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but we are so delighted
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that you took
time to come over here
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and telling us a little bit more
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about what you are
doing in your ministry
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to share Jesus?
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Absolutely, my pleasure
to be here with you guys.
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Well, before we begin,
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we know that our
audience loves music.
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We know you love music,
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and we have a song by
one of my favorite people,
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Stephanie Dawn.
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I love her delivery
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and she is
going to sing where...
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I'll go where You want me to go.
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And there's a
reason we chose this song.
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You'll find out, stay with us.
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It may not be on
the mountain height
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Or over the stormy sea
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It may not be at
the battle's front
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My Lord will have need of me
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But if by a still,
small voice He calls
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To paths I do not know
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I'll answer, dear
Lord, with my hand in Thine
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I'll go where You want me to go
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I'll go where You
want me to go, dear Lord
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O'er mountain or plain or sea
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I'll say what you
want me to say, dear Lord
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I'll be what You want me to be
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Perhaps today
there are loving words
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That Jesus would have me speak
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There may be now,
in the paths of sin
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Some wand'rer whom I should seek
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O Savior, if
Thou wilt be my Guide
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Tho dark and rugged the way
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My voice shall
echo the message sweet
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I'll say what
You want me to say.
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I'll go where You
want me to go, dear Lord
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O'er mountain or plain or sea
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I'll say what you
want me to say, dear Lord
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I'll be what You want me to be
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There's surely
somewhere a lowly place
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In earth's
harvest fields so wide
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Where I may labor
thru life's short day
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For Jesus the Crucified
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So, trusting my
all unto Thy care
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I know Thou lovest me
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I'll do Thy will
with a heart sincere
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I'll be what You want me to be
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I'll go where You
want me to go, dear Lord
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O'er mountain or plain or sea
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I'll say what you
want me to say, dear Lord
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I'll be what You want me to be
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Thank you, Stephanie Dawn.
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I remember a time
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when you might have
been on some earlier programs
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as a little child
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and you know,
Shelley did mention something
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about how it,
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how we all have a reason
of where God wants us to be.
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Where do you want to be today?
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And I know that
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sometimes we have plans laid out
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and sometimes God
shifts them around
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and says, nope,
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this is the path
that I need you to take.
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And I think Rich Aguilera,
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you had something
like that happened to you.
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What did you study?
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Well, I went to university
to study architecture,
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but, and it lasted for 15 years,
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but it, you know,
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I was kind of frustrated
with it from the beginning.
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I got into it because
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I wanted to do
something very creative
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and I'm thinking architecture,
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you know, I
could design buildings
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and create all
these amazing structures.
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And then I went into
it and I found out that,
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really
architecture was the business
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of building buildings.
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And there was a lot of fighting
with officials and inspectors
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and banks and contractors.
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And I was like, this is not.
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Getting permits.
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Yeah, getting permits.
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So it's kind of funny
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because then I ended up
getting my creative thrills
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at church, serving at church.
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Wow!
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At church? At church.
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But I still, I did
architecture for 15 years,
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16 years, I think.
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Wow!
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So you were getting
involved with children?
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Yeah. I started
off with the youth.
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Were your kids already
young at that age or what?
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I didn't even have kids.
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You didn't even
have kids? No, no.
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And you decided to
do youth ministries
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in your church?
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Yes. And where was this at?
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This is at
Berrien Springs, Michigan.
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Ah-aha. I know
that place very well.
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Yeah.
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So I served kind
of as a youth director
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at our church for
probably five or six years,
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just got excited about
working with youth kind of in
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out of the box typesetting,
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'cause we would do all sorts
of really cool creative things
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and, you know, Berrien
Springs having so many youth,
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it's interesting
because our youth program
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would actually
get more attendance
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than the main worship
service on Sabbath morning.
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Wow!
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We really want to do
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something special for the youth.
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And then what happens is,
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I started having
nieces and nephews first
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and we're like,
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our shift kind of
went towards children.
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And then, of course,
I had my own children
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and then really it
was just from there,
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it was all children.
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So tell us more about that?
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Well, you know,
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as I was looking
for my creative thrills,
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I always wanted to
pour as much creative energy
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into everything I did.
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And one of the first
things that happened was
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I shifted from
being the youth director
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to helping out
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with the
children's ministry director.
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First as a helper
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and we would sit
around at these tables
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and we're like,
what are we gonna do?
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What exciting,
awesome thing could we do?
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'Cause we had been
doing this youth ministry
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and now we wanted to
do something equally grand
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and exciting for the kids
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and we're thinking, okay,
really needs to be exciting
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and interesting and engaging.
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So we started dreaming up ideas.
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And the task
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that we had been given
for that office at church
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was VBS.
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And so, at first
year or two, I think,
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I mean, we just kinda went
really overboard on our VBS
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we just, huge sets and
costumes and the whole thing.
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And then I
remember the first year
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after we finished
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and we had like
120 kids come out.
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They had this amazing week
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and then it finished
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and we're like,
see you next year.
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Oh, that's
great. That's awesome.
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And we're like, wait a second,
this doesn't sound right.
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We didn't commit to that. Yeah.
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I'm like, we just got these kids
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super excited about Jesus.
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We had this awesome
encounter and engagement
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for the whole week.
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And then basically,
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and we didn't tell the
kids see you next year,
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but we were telling ourselves,
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we just did this amazing,
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awesome encounter with
Jesus and it ends then.
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They want more.
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Don't they want more?
Can't we continue this?
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So that's where
the idea was born
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of doing a
children's church ministry.
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And so we basically
continued the theme of the VBS.
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We kept our props
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and our costumes and everything.
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And we started doing
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a Sabbath afternoon
children's church every month.
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Wow! How exciting.
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And that's kind of how we
really got kind of rolling
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with expanding, kind
of, our vision and view
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of all the different ways
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that you can
really reach children,
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but consistently.
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Consistently.
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'Cause doing it for a
couple of days in the summer.
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That was just not enough.
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Wow!
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I think you
brought a real with you
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about your children's church.
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And I have to tell you,
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I did children's
church many years ago as well.
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I've put together a
whole children's church
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and it's such an
exciting idea to teach children,
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not just, I mean,
you're kind of teaching them
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about church as well.
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So let's look at
that real right now.
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That last one
was you. That was me.
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Wasn't it, Rich?
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I was dressed up as a pharaoh.
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How precious is that?
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But I mean, the
kids must love it.
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How long, you went from
VBS into children's church.
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How long, what year was that?
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Yeah, I'm trying to
remember what year it was,
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in the early 2000s
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that we started doing
the children's church.
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And, of course, when
the pandemic started,
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we had to take a break.
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You mean it's still
going? It's still going.
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Oh, praise the
Lord, how much fun.
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Now I know that
you've also used puppets
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in your children's ministry.
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Now, there are a
couple of people,
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I've only met two
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that didn't think
puppets were right
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and nobody else has
said anything about it.
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What's your experience
been with puppets and children?
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Puppets for us have
been extremely powerful
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and I'll use the word extremely
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because we've
seen it in action now
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for almost 20 years.
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We've had these two characters
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that started off
right at the beginning
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with children's church
called Dusty and Feather
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and the kids, they adore them
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because they almost
grew up with these puppets.
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But it was interesting because
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my philosophy on puppets
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has always been
a little different
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than maybe other people,
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'cause for me, I wanted
to choose puppet characters
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that were a little strange
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because when you're
working with children,
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you have to kind of
think outside the box.
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So I've always
resisted having people puppets
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'cause oftentimes when
you see people do puppets,
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it's two people
talking to each other
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and it's like normal.
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So we created these characters
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that are extra
silly, extra goofy,
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but they always
bring a point home.
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And for me, the
puppets was basically
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a way to connect with the kids
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because we often just
kind of talk at the kids
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when we're doing
children's ministries.
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But the first thing
that we have to establish
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is a connection with them.
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Yes.
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So we have to figure out
how can we connect with them?
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And kids have grown up,
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you know, whether it's watching
Sesame Street or whatever,
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they love puppets.
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There's just something
engaging about puppets.
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Mr. Rogers. Exactly.
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And if you can make
them silly and funny
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and, you know,
crack jokes and whatever,
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but they always
come back to the center,
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which is the point
that you're trying to make,
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the spiritual lesson.
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We've found that the
puppets were a great vehicle
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for just getting
an engagement moment
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with the kids.
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Once you got their attention,
then you feed them the lesson.
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And often they'll remember
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what the puppet
story was about for years.
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I've had kids come
up to me years later
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and they're like telling me
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one of their favorite
Dusty and Feather moments.
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Yeah.
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So it is a powerful,
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we've seen it to be
a very powerful tool
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for working with children.
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Definitely. And I
definitely see that.
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So I believe
something happened in 2008
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that really shifted something
that ties into our song.
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Yeah.
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Tell me a little bit about that?
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Well, it's interesting.
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I mean, I carried on
my architecture career
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because I figured
that's what I prepared for.
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So I have to keep doing this,
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but I was getting
my creative thrills
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doing a
children's church and the VBS
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and different ministries.
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And it's interesting because,
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you know, by then, now
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we've been doing
children's church
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for five, six years
or something like that.
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And a lot of people were
starting to come up to me
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and saying, hey,
Rich, you know, wow,
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these are just amazing things.
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We don't see
anyone anywhere else
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doing these
amazing programs for kids
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and doing, you
know, all this year-round,
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you know, reaching children.
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And they started kind
of poking me spiritually.
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They're like, do you think
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maybe you've been
kind of called to do this,
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you know, ministry a
little bit more full-time
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or pour more of
your energy to do this,
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you know, all those
kinds of nods and pushes.
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So I finally kinda,
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I think it was in
2006, I started praying.
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I'm like, God, you know,
00:17:35.52\00:17:36.85
a lot of people just
saying this all of a sudden,
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if this is really
something You want me to do,
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you know, the deal
that I made with God.
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And I think I've mentioned
it on the show before is
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if You open the
door, I'll walk through it.
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And that's
exactly what happened.
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That's a whole
long story all there,
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but, God created
an opportunity for me
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to put my
architecture career on the side
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and start working
full time in 2008,
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doing this ministry work
for children and the goal,
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which is, you know,
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our program today is about
connecting kids with Jesus,
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especially in today's world
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where there's so
much distractions,
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so much noise, so
much other things going on.
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It only makes
the job even harder,
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which means we have
to work extra harder
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to be able to connect with them
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and get creative
and try new things
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and experiment.
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And so that's
kinda what we've ended up
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focusing on with our ministry.
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And I love the
title of your ministry.
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It's One Mustard Seed.
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And if you want to
get in touch with Rich
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or connect with his ministry,
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you can go to
OneMustardSeed.com.
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How'd you come
up with that name?
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Well, It's interesting because,
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the idea of starting a ministry
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was basically a
massive leap of faith
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'cause it was leaving a
stable architecture career
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to start a
ministry, serving God,
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working with, for children,
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without having any
idea what you're doing
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or where to go
or where to start.
00:19:03.67\00:19:05.71
Or how you're gonna
support your family?
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Or how are you going to
support your family, exactly.
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That's a big one. Exactly.
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And you know when we
started the ministry,
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I'm like, all
right, it'd be great
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if we can get a
name that reflects
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this massive leap of faith
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that we're gonna
take to serve God.
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And so, you know,
00:19:18.05\00:19:19.39
I thought of the
mustard seed story
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in the Bible,
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and I thought to
really punctuate it,
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it's one mustard seed.
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You're going to get a
massive tree, a mustard tree,
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and you only need one
of those tiny little seeds
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to get that tree.
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Just a little step of faith.
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One mustard seed
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is all you need to get this tree
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and that's kinda working.
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You've been planting seeds
for the Lord for a long time.
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Definitely.
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So, tell us a little bit
about your early ministry
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when you got started?
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What was that like?
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Yeah, so, it's interesting
because we kind of started off
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by going to an ASI Convention.
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The one that was in Tampa
that year, I think it was 2008.
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And, it's kind of neat because
00:19:59.76\00:20:01.93
while I was in the
chow line that first day,
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I went there
and it's interesting
00:20:05.27\00:20:06.60
'cause I went to
set up a booth there
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having no idea what I was doing.
00:20:08.14\00:20:09.90
I didn't have a product,
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I didn't have a resource
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we just, we were
launching our ministry blind,
00:20:12.67\00:20:15.94
but it's interesting
because right in line
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I had Randy Fishel
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who used to be the
editor of Guide magazine
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standing right
behind me in line.
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And I don't know
what the deal was,
00:20:23.49\00:20:24.82
but the lines
took like 45 minutes
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to get to the food.
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And we spent the
whole 45 minutes talking
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and brainstorming and dreaming.
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And I shared with
him what I was doing.
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And he shared with
me, you know, what?
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We're looking for a Guide
magazine nature columnist.
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We want you to be that person.
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Oh, praise God. Wow.
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Right there in
line, we got our start.
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I got my start writing a
column for Guide magazine.
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That was a divine appointment.
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Yes. Definitely.
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So that's kind of
how we got started.
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And then one thing,
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and then we started
doing more writing projects.
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We started trying to do
video type projects and events.
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So it just kinda kept going
God works in mysterious ways.
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And He opens the doors
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and our job is just
to walk through them.
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And what I noticed
though also is that
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it takes your whole
family to support it.
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Like for me, I know with Amanda,
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she has to almost buy into it
00:21:11.83\00:21:13.30
and I'm sure your
sons had to participate too
00:21:13.34\00:21:16.30
and just buy into
it and be supportive.
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Absolutely.
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Having the full
support of the family,
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my wife and the boys,
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you know, having
us all be invested in
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because going forward,
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a lot of the things that
we did was a team of four
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to get it done,
whether it was traveling
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or, you know,
the kids got involved
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in children's
church and they still are.
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We taught them how
to run the puppets.
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So part of our goal
with the children's church
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was to put a lot
of the kids to work.
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And it was a really
amazing ministry and still is
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because we're serving
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sometimes up to 150
children in the month,
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but we employ, we
call them our junior staff.
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So we have maybe 25
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of what I'd say is our
juniors and early teens.
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And then the actual
children's church program
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is run by about 40 or
50 high school students.
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I know you've
written a number of books,
00:22:00.02\00:22:01.88
but I just have to
tell you or ask you,
00:22:01.92\00:22:04.35
have you ever written down
00:22:04.39\00:22:06.15
the kind of like the
blueprint, Mr. Architect,
00:22:06.19\00:22:11.89
for how to do children's church?
00:22:11.93\00:22:13.90
Not really.
00:22:13.93\00:22:15.26
You need to
'cause this is an idea
00:22:15.30\00:22:18.43
that should go
from church to church.
00:22:18.47\00:22:20.90
You're getting young
people, the youth involved
00:22:20.94\00:22:24.44
that gives them a purpose.
00:22:24.47\00:22:26.54
You're training up little,
I mean the little children.
00:22:26.57\00:22:29.94
You need to write
a book for adults.
00:22:29.98\00:22:31.85
I know you've
written five or six books.
00:22:31.88\00:22:33.58
Put it on the list.
00:22:33.62\00:22:36.12
We're getting closer though.
00:22:36.15\00:22:37.49
I see a lot of his
planning going on for sure.
00:22:37.52\00:22:40.59
Yeah.
00:22:40.62\00:22:41.96
But yeah, those were
amazing years for sure.
00:22:41.99\00:22:44.89
And I know that
00:22:44.93\00:22:46.49
you were planning something else
00:22:46.53\00:22:48.16
before the pandemic hit.
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What was that?
00:22:50.57\00:22:51.90
What was something
that you were dreaming up?
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Because you're always
coming up with new ideas.
00:22:53.30\00:22:54.64
Yeah.
00:22:54.67\00:22:56.00
I love, I enjoy seeing
what you come up with next.
00:22:56.04\00:22:58.27
And it's always, of course,
exciting working with you guys
00:22:58.31\00:23:01.08
because you guys are
ready to try interesting things
00:23:01.11\00:23:03.21
and working with the kids.
00:23:03.24\00:23:04.58
And before the pandemic,
00:23:04.61\00:23:06.08
we were dreaming up about a show
00:23:06.11\00:23:07.88
that we were
gonna work on together
00:23:07.92\00:23:09.32
right here at 3ABN.
00:23:09.35\00:23:10.69
And, again, trying to
think outside the box,
00:23:10.72\00:23:12.79
what would be
exciting, what would be unique?
00:23:12.82\00:23:15.02
And I came up with this idea
that we were about to launch,
00:23:15.06\00:23:18.23
didn't have a name yet.
00:23:18.26\00:23:19.59
I don't think we even
had a working title yet,
00:23:19.63\00:23:21.70
but the idea was to
take a group of families,
00:23:21.73\00:23:25.03
eight, ten different families
00:23:25.07\00:23:26.80
on this week, long adventure
00:23:26.84\00:23:29.30
to some exotic
international place.
00:23:29.34\00:23:32.31
And we had planned this
first one to be in Costa Rica.
00:23:32.34\00:23:35.24
And we were gonna go there.
00:23:35.28\00:23:36.61
And basically
with these families,
00:23:36.64\00:23:37.98
we're gonna spend a week there
00:23:38.01\00:23:39.35
and every day
would be an adventure.
00:23:39.38\00:23:41.48
And we'd be zealous.
00:23:41.52\00:23:43.08
I was excited
because I wanted to go too.
00:23:43.12\00:23:45.89
We were gonna be
zip-lining and caving and,
00:23:45.92\00:23:48.66
you know, whitewater rafting.
00:23:48.69\00:23:50.03
Spelunking. And spelunking.
00:23:50.06\00:23:51.83
And, that would be kind
of a little morning activity.
00:23:51.86\00:23:53.96
And then in the afternoon,
00:23:54.00\00:23:55.33
the families would have time
00:23:55.36\00:23:56.70
to just kind of be on their
own and do some family stuff.
00:23:56.73\00:23:59.03
And then we would
also work in the production
00:23:59.07\00:24:02.27
of a reality TV show
00:24:02.30\00:24:04.44
featuring these
eight or ten families,
00:24:04.47\00:24:06.88
lightly scripted.
00:24:06.91\00:24:08.24
So the kids would say a line,
00:24:08.28\00:24:09.61
and then we tied all
together with the B roll.
00:24:09.64\00:24:11.05
And it was just the
kind of this exciting,
00:24:11.08\00:24:13.01
all outdoors, all
surrounded by God's nature,
00:24:13.05\00:24:15.95
you know, kids and families,
00:24:15.98\00:24:17.32
parents all
interacting together.
00:24:17.35\00:24:18.89
And, so we're, we
still have that on the table
00:24:18.92\00:24:21.72
with Francine
00:24:21.76\00:24:23.09
and we're hoping to, you know,
be able to get back on that.
00:24:23.12\00:24:25.89
I would like to
see that happening
00:24:25.93\00:24:27.66
because that would be
such a wonderful adventure
00:24:27.70\00:24:30.27
to have that come
alive again and again,
00:24:30.30\00:24:32.70
not scripted having it,
just a lot of fun for the kids.
00:24:32.73\00:24:36.24
Now, I think we have
another roll in for that one,
00:24:36.27\00:24:38.14
don't we?
00:24:38.17\00:24:39.51
Not for that one, I don't think.
00:24:39.54\00:24:42.74
It would be something.
00:24:42.78\00:24:44.11
The dinosaur one?
00:24:44.15\00:24:45.48
Oh, the dinosaur
one will be coming soon.
00:24:45.51\00:24:47.62
So tell us about that?
00:24:47.65\00:24:48.98
So that was more about
00:24:49.02\00:24:50.35
the events part of our ministry.
00:24:50.39\00:24:51.72
So after we had been
doing the children's church
00:24:51.75\00:24:54.02
after I started
writing for Guide magazine.
00:24:54.06\00:24:57.09
We were trying to figure out
00:24:57.13\00:24:58.46
how else can we
connect with people,
00:24:58.49\00:25:00.50
especially with the kids.
00:25:00.53\00:25:02.36
By then, I had been doing a
lot of TV and production work
00:25:02.40\00:25:05.87
and, okay, you can
reach people across the world
00:25:05.90\00:25:09.10
by watching something,
00:25:09.14\00:25:11.01
but it occurred to me that
00:25:11.04\00:25:12.37
the next exciting
way to connect with kids
00:25:12.41\00:25:15.74
would be to do it
directly in person.
00:25:15.78\00:25:18.65
And I thought, okay,
well, how do we do that?
00:25:18.68\00:25:20.52
'Cause we were doing
that with children's church
00:25:20.55\00:25:22.12
just in our little community.
00:25:22.15\00:25:24.19
How do we take that out?
00:25:24.22\00:25:25.95
And so, that kind of
ushered in a part of,
00:25:25.99\00:25:29.52
or a timeline of our ministry,
00:25:29.56\00:25:31.13
where we started doing events
00:25:31.16\00:25:33.16
and I started
getting invitations
00:25:33.19\00:25:34.80
to speak at a lot of
churches and come for a weekend.
00:25:34.83\00:25:37.10
And that kind of eventually
00:25:37.13\00:25:38.90
evolved into the idea of
producing a touring event.
00:25:38.93\00:25:43.47
And that's where this
dinosaur, program kinda came in.
00:25:43.51\00:25:47.74
I toured a dinosaur
show, for four years
00:25:47.78\00:25:50.41
we did over 100 cities
in four or five countries.
00:25:50.45\00:25:55.25
We were just cruising.
00:25:55.28\00:25:57.59
We were continuing to do that,
00:25:57.62\00:25:59.55
but I saw such an
interesting opportunity
00:25:59.59\00:26:02.02
to reach kids with this topic
00:26:02.06\00:26:04.26
because a lot of people think,
00:26:04.29\00:26:05.63
dinosaurs,
everyone loves dinosaurs.
00:26:05.66\00:26:07.76
But for me, this was
really an opportunity
00:26:07.80\00:26:09.83
to touch on the creation topic.
00:26:09.86\00:26:12.67
Amen. Absolutely.
00:26:12.70\00:26:14.04
'Cause it
automatically rolls into that
00:26:14.07\00:26:15.40
because dinosaurs
almost represent this conflict
00:26:15.44\00:26:17.67
between the creation
and evolution concepts.
00:26:17.71\00:26:21.11
So if we use
dinosaurs as our hook
00:26:21.14\00:26:23.48
to get the kids
excited, engaged,
00:26:23.51\00:26:25.25
and they come and
then they get to learn
00:26:25.28\00:26:27.28
how these creatures fit
into the biblical worldview.
00:26:27.32\00:26:30.39
And it turns out that,
00:26:30.42\00:26:31.75
you know, the hunch was right
00:26:31.79\00:26:33.12
and we did this
00:26:33.15\00:26:34.49
a hundred cities for four years.
00:26:34.52\00:26:35.86
And at the end of that,
00:26:35.89\00:26:37.23
I was thinking this
really needs to be bigger.
00:26:37.26\00:26:40.26
This really could do a lot more.
00:26:40.30\00:26:42.50
We could really reach
out into the community
00:26:42.53\00:26:44.57
instead of just kind
of serving the members
00:26:44.60\00:26:46.87
and, you know,
clubs and stuff like that.
00:26:46.90\00:26:49.44
This would be an exciting show
for outreach, for evangelism,
00:26:49.47\00:26:52.71
you know, come out and
learn what the Bible says,
00:26:52.74\00:26:55.21
you know, and just have fun
00:26:55.24\00:26:56.58
and be this big
colorful program.
00:26:56.61\00:26:58.81
So that's where we came
to this idea of launching
00:26:58.85\00:27:02.08
a new tour called
Dinosaur Encounter.
00:27:02.12\00:27:05.19
And we were about to
launch when the pandemic hit.
00:27:05.22\00:27:11.03
Rich, one thing I
so admire about you,
00:27:11.06\00:27:12.83
and I have to say this,
00:27:12.86\00:27:14.23
is your commitment
00:27:14.26\00:27:15.93
to the creation
story of the Bible.
00:27:15.96\00:27:18.93
Here in schools, we have kids
who are being taught evolution,
00:27:18.97\00:27:24.57
and you on the other hand
00:27:24.61\00:27:26.78
are teaching them the truth
about God's seven day week,
00:27:26.81\00:27:33.68
His six day
creation and the Sabbath.
00:27:33.72\00:27:36.12
I so appreciate that.
00:27:36.15\00:27:37.49
And what we
wanna do right now is
00:27:37.52\00:27:40.02
let's look at that short
clip on the Dino project.
00:27:40.06\00:27:44.03
Join me, Rich Aguilera,
00:28:06.72\00:28:08.38
as we explore
evidence from science,
00:28:08.42\00:28:10.65
nature history, and the Bible.
00:28:10.69\00:28:13.79
What happened to the dinosaurs?
00:28:13.82\00:28:15.76
When did they live?
00:28:15.79\00:28:17.19
Did they really evolve
over millions of years?
00:28:17.23\00:28:20.20
What does the Bible say?
00:28:20.23\00:28:21.96
I'd like to invite
you and your family
00:28:28.54\00:28:30.77
to join me for this
Bible based Dinosaur Encounter.
00:28:30.81\00:28:34.41
As we ask questions
and search for the truth.
00:28:34.44\00:28:38.18
Oh, and
everyone gets 3D glasses.
00:28:38.21\00:28:41.48
I hope to see you soon.
00:28:41.52\00:28:42.85
I want to be there
and wear those 3D glasses
00:28:46.35\00:28:49.59
because that
just sounds exciting.
00:28:49.62\00:28:50.96
It does.
00:28:50.99\00:28:52.33
Even those
dinosaurs jumping out at you
00:28:52.36\00:28:54.00
and, oh, I would, it will be
just phenomenal just the end,
00:28:54.03\00:28:57.63
the kids are just so
engaged and so excited.
00:28:57.67\00:28:59.67
What a fun way to
kind of make the show
00:28:59.70\00:29:01.04
just jump out right
into the audience for them.
00:29:01.07\00:29:03.00
Which leads me
into something else
00:29:03.04\00:29:04.74
that I think you were
hoping to tackle as well.
00:29:04.77\00:29:07.41
You've tackled that
00:29:07.44\00:29:09.41
brought in a new
dimension for your ministry.
00:29:09.44\00:29:11.81
What is that?
00:29:11.85\00:29:13.55
Was that talking
about film making possibly?
00:29:13.58\00:29:17.25
And really, how did you
decide to get into that?
00:29:17.29\00:29:19.79
So several years ago,
00:29:19.82\00:29:21.16
when I was trying
to think of new areas
00:29:21.19\00:29:23.12
to connect with kids,
00:29:23.16\00:29:25.39
I started thinking and praying
00:29:25.43\00:29:26.80
about the concept of
filmmaking or movies.
00:29:26.83\00:29:30.27
And I started reflecting on,
00:29:30.30\00:29:31.93
you know, okay, first of all,
00:29:31.97\00:29:33.57
how did Jesus
connect with people?
00:29:33.60\00:29:35.90
And I think
it's fair to say that
00:29:35.94\00:29:37.81
one of His
favorite teaching tools
00:29:37.84\00:29:39.77
was storytelling.
00:29:39.81\00:29:41.84
And when I thought of
00:29:41.88\00:29:43.21
what would be the
equivalent of that concept
00:29:43.24\00:29:46.21
in today times
00:29:46.25\00:29:49.65
I concluded that, you know,
movies are extremely popular.
00:29:49.68\00:29:54.26
I'm trying to
remember the statistic,
00:29:54.29\00:29:55.62
but last time I checked,
00:29:55.66\00:29:56.99
it was like 3
billion tickets are sold
00:29:57.03\00:29:59.56
for people in
North America alone
00:29:59.59\00:30:01.26
to go see movies
every single year.
00:30:01.30\00:30:03.47
People are drawn to movies.
They love the story concept.
00:30:03.50\00:30:06.80
And Jesus, you know,
00:30:06.84\00:30:08.17
used that idea
of telling a story
00:30:08.20\00:30:09.80
to teach a point.
00:30:09.84\00:30:11.47
And I was reflecting
and thinking, you know,
00:30:11.51\00:30:13.94
church doesn't do a whole
lot of that kind of project.
00:30:13.98\00:30:16.64
Would it be possible for me
00:30:16.68\00:30:18.01
to kind of try to nudge
the church in that direction
00:30:18.05\00:30:20.25
by tackling that
kind of a project?
00:30:20.28\00:30:22.78
Fortunately, I got some support.
00:30:22.82\00:30:24.22
I worked with the
North American division
00:30:24.25\00:30:25.59
stewardship department
00:30:25.62\00:30:26.96
and we started this project.
00:30:26.99\00:30:29.36
It was a small indie film,
00:30:29.39\00:30:31.39
but we wanted to at least
come out and try something.
00:30:31.43\00:30:34.63
And we produced, I
wrote and directed,
00:30:34.66\00:30:36.16
and produced a movie
called The Mysterious Note,
00:30:36.20\00:30:38.60
which teaches kids
stewardship principles
00:30:38.63\00:30:41.80
from the point of view
of being faithful to God
00:30:41.84\00:30:44.71
in every single thing.
00:30:44.74\00:30:46.07
'Cause oftentimes
00:30:46.11\00:30:47.44
we think of stewardship as just,
00:30:47.48\00:30:48.81
you know, tithes and offerings,
00:30:48.84\00:30:50.18
but it's so much more
00:30:50.21\00:30:51.55
and we wanted the
kids to understand
00:30:51.58\00:30:52.91
the stewardship principle
is huge in everything you do,
00:30:52.95\00:30:55.52
trusting God,
having faith in God
00:30:55.55\00:30:57.09
with your time, with your money,
00:30:57.12\00:30:58.45
with your
talents, with your family,
00:30:58.49\00:30:59.82
with your
resources, with everything,
00:30:59.85\00:31:01.66
it's a way of life.
00:31:01.69\00:31:03.02
It's not just this thing
that you do once in a while.
00:31:03.06\00:31:05.39
And that was what
the movie set out to do.
00:31:05.43\00:31:07.13
And it's been a
really fun project.
00:31:07.16\00:31:10.00
It's been fun, kind of seeing it
00:31:10.03\00:31:11.37
over the last
couple of years come out.
00:31:11.40\00:31:12.77
It's, I think closing
in on 2 million views now,
00:31:12.80\00:31:16.77
which is exciting to see.
00:31:16.81\00:31:18.37
That's only the trackable ones?
00:31:18.41\00:31:19.94
Right, exactly. That's
just the trackable one.
00:31:19.97\00:31:21.88
So it was a neat project
00:31:21.91\00:31:23.35
and always,
thinking and wondering
00:31:23.38\00:31:26.25
if I'll be able to do
another project like that,
00:31:26.28\00:31:28.68
it's been on my mind.
00:31:28.72\00:31:30.05
So just kind of
waiting to right opportunity
00:31:30.09\00:31:32.05
to see if that happen.
00:31:32.09\00:31:33.42
So you already thinking
about making something else.
00:31:33.46\00:31:34.79
Absolutely. I have a story idea.
00:31:34.82\00:31:36.83
He never stops thinking.
00:31:36.86\00:31:38.19
Yeah, he is always
dreaming. It's a problem.
00:31:38.23\00:31:39.66
He is always
dreaming something up.
00:31:39.69\00:31:41.06
Yeah, no.
00:31:41.10\00:31:42.43
So I have a story
idea, you know, just...
00:31:42.46\00:31:44.43
We so appreciate what
you do with 3ABN Kids Network
00:31:44.47\00:31:50.17
and your Bible Treasures program
00:31:50.21\00:31:52.21
is a lot of fun for
adults as well as for the kids.
00:31:52.24\00:31:56.64
But I'm an author.
00:31:56.68\00:31:59.11
People always told me
00:31:59.15\00:32:00.48
I should write
a book all my life
00:32:00.52\00:32:01.85
and I always said,
00:32:01.88\00:32:03.25
"I will never write a book
00:32:03.28\00:32:04.69
unless I write it
for the Lord's glory."
00:32:04.72\00:32:07.72
And then, one day
00:32:07.76\00:32:10.13
God called me
here to do a series.
00:32:10.16\00:32:12.19
And they said we want a
book to go along with it.
00:32:12.23\00:32:14.30
And that's when I
wrote my first book.
00:32:14.33\00:32:16.46
I know that
00:32:16.50\00:32:17.83
the first couple of
books you wrote are called for,
00:32:17.87\00:32:22.97
one was with Guide magazine.
00:32:23.00\00:32:24.77
It's called Mud.
00:32:24.81\00:32:26.14
That's why they call
you the Mud guy, right?
00:32:26.17\00:32:28.71
That's right, yep.
00:32:28.74\00:32:30.08
The Off-Road Discoveries,
00:32:30.11\00:32:32.25
and then Passport to Adventures.
00:32:32.28\00:32:35.78
Both of these books are
available at Pacific Press.
00:32:35.82\00:32:40.89
Do you also have them on your?
00:32:40.92\00:32:42.26
I have them on my store.
00:32:42.29\00:32:43.63
So are, or you can
go to OneMustardSeed.com
00:32:43.66\00:32:49.76
and these are terrific books.
00:32:49.80\00:32:51.20
That's why the kids all
know you as the mud guy.
00:32:51.23\00:32:53.77
And the Passport one
is in Spanish as well.
00:32:53.80\00:32:56.44
That's wonderful.
00:32:56.47\00:32:57.81
That's The
Passport to Adventure?
00:32:57.84\00:32:59.97
Yep. There they are. Okay.
00:33:00.01\00:33:01.34
Tell, tell me,
because I know that when,
00:33:01.38\00:33:04.55
when it was time to
write, God just said, write,
00:33:04.58\00:33:08.18
how did you
transition into writing?
00:33:08.22\00:33:10.82
Yeah, that was tricky.
00:33:10.85\00:33:12.19
So when we were
doing the children's church
00:33:12.22\00:33:14.09
kind of time of our ministry,
00:33:14.12\00:33:16.32
that would require a
considerable amount of writing
00:33:16.36\00:33:18.29
'cause when we first started,
00:33:18.33\00:33:20.53
we looked around for curriculum
00:33:20.56\00:33:21.90
to see if
anything was available,
00:33:21.93\00:33:23.26
that we could
just buy and produce.
00:33:23.30\00:33:26.23
There was nothing.
00:33:26.27\00:33:27.60
So we're like, okay,
00:33:27.64\00:33:28.97
I guess we're gonna have
to just write this ourselves.
00:33:29.00\00:33:30.74
So I partnered
with my brother-in-law
00:33:30.77\00:33:32.34
and who is also
just super passionate
00:33:32.37\00:33:34.58
and creative and loves children.
00:33:34.61\00:33:37.18
And we just
started writing these,
00:33:37.21\00:33:39.45
you know, I'm trying to remember
00:33:39.48\00:33:40.82
it was 16-page scripts,
00:33:40.85\00:33:42.85
every single time
we'd produce these programs
00:33:42.88\00:33:44.89
word for word.
00:33:44.92\00:33:46.25
And so we just kind of developed
00:33:46.29\00:33:47.62
this passion for writing.
00:33:47.66\00:33:48.99
So, creative
writing to me wasn't,
00:33:49.02\00:33:50.93
I didn't think of it as writing.
00:33:50.96\00:33:52.29
It was just a matter
of getting ideas down
00:33:52.33\00:33:54.23
so that they could become real.
00:33:54.26\00:33:56.63
So that's kind
of where it started.
00:33:56.67\00:33:58.00
And then when I was asked
to write for Guide magazine
00:33:58.03\00:33:59.70
for their column every month,
00:33:59.73\00:34:01.50
that just kind of
took it to the next step.
00:34:01.54\00:34:04.04
And then, for some reason,
00:34:04.07\00:34:05.47
I don't know where it came from,
00:34:05.51\00:34:06.84
I just suddenly loved to write.
00:34:06.88\00:34:08.91
But let me ask you,
00:34:08.94\00:34:11.28
have you always, I
mean the mud guy or mud,
00:34:11.31\00:34:15.58
this is all about nature
00:34:15.62\00:34:17.32
and some of the
coolest thoughts.
00:34:17.35\00:34:20.36
Has nature always just,
00:34:20.39\00:34:22.32
God's creation just
always really spoken to you?
00:34:22.36\00:34:25.33
Absolutely.
00:34:25.36\00:34:27.00
I was that kid that
never wanted to be inside.
00:34:27.03\00:34:29.20
Okay.
00:34:29.23\00:34:30.57
I was, if it's snowing,
raining, lightning, thunder,
00:34:30.60\00:34:32.63
I just want to be
outside. I wanna be on a tree.
00:34:32.67\00:34:34.77
I wanna be exploring,
00:34:34.80\00:34:36.17
you know, when I grew up, I,
00:34:36.20\00:34:37.61
you know, bought the hat.
00:34:37.64\00:34:38.97
It was in a
character that I created.
00:34:39.01\00:34:40.38
This is just who I am,
00:34:40.41\00:34:41.74
you know,
driving a jeep forever.
00:34:41.78\00:34:43.91
You know, I just
wanted to be engaged
00:34:43.95\00:34:45.95
and connected with nature.
00:34:45.98\00:34:47.55
And, of course, as I grew older
00:34:47.58\00:34:48.92
and I realized that,
00:34:48.95\00:34:50.29
wow, this is a great
way to connect with God
00:34:50.32\00:34:52.32
because nature is His artwork.
00:34:52.35\00:34:54.76
Amen.
00:34:54.79\00:34:56.12
It's His second book.
00:34:56.16\00:34:57.49
So I found it as a really
close spiritual connection
00:34:57.53\00:35:00.13
being connected with nature.
00:35:00.16\00:35:01.56
So my goal with
the writing for Guide
00:35:01.60\00:35:03.93
with the Passport to
Adventure with the Mud book
00:35:03.97\00:35:06.47
is about connecting kids
00:35:06.50\00:35:08.07
with something from God
that's literally tangible.
00:35:08.10\00:35:10.97
Now, Passport to Adventure
00:35:11.01\00:35:12.71
is a daily
devotional for a year.
00:35:12.74\00:35:14.21
It is a daily devotional.
00:35:14.24\00:35:15.81
Is that a lot of,
00:35:15.84\00:35:18.65
a lot of nature in here as well?
00:35:18.68\00:35:20.52
Because the focus of the
book is the travel adventures
00:35:20.55\00:35:23.79
that I've experienced.
00:35:23.82\00:35:25.15
So I've, as of this writing,
I've been to 82 countries
00:35:25.19\00:35:28.62
which a lot of that
travel was my fascination for
00:35:28.66\00:35:33.40
not just
historical places and cities,
00:35:33.43\00:35:35.00
but a lot of the nature
places that you can visit.
00:35:35.03\00:35:38.90
So a lot of the adventures
00:35:38.93\00:35:40.34
that I talk about in there are
visits to very unique places,
00:35:40.37\00:35:44.14
formations, canyons,
00:35:44.17\00:35:46.57
you know, dinosaur digs,
00:35:46.61\00:35:48.31
so it's all kind
of wrapped into their,
00:35:48.34\00:35:49.94
every day is a new adventure.
00:35:49.98\00:35:51.31
That's cool.
00:35:51.35\00:35:52.68
I liked some of them
00:35:52.71\00:35:54.05
because I could
relate to some of them
00:35:54.08\00:35:55.42
near Switzerland and France.
00:35:55.45\00:35:56.79
And I was like, I like those.
00:35:56.82\00:35:58.15
It's funny too
00:35:58.19\00:35:59.52
because I get a lot
of people that are like,
00:35:59.55\00:36:00.89
I was there and all that,
00:36:00.92\00:36:02.26
that story was
really special to me
00:36:02.29\00:36:03.63
because we went there
last year with my family.
00:36:03.66\00:36:04.99
So it's kinda cool
'cause it's, it's real things
00:36:05.03\00:36:06.36
and a lot of people connect.
00:36:06.39\00:36:07.73
Making connections. Yep.
00:36:07.76\00:36:09.10
Absolutely.
00:36:09.13\00:36:10.47
So I believe
00:36:10.50\00:36:11.83
recently you've
done some other books,
00:36:11.87\00:36:14.27
publishing some other books.
00:36:14.30\00:36:15.64
Yes. Now that's
pretty brave of you.
00:36:15.67\00:36:17.11
And I really liked this one.
00:36:17.14\00:36:19.67
As a teacher, I
really value this one
00:36:19.71\00:36:22.28
because I had to spend some time
00:36:22.31\00:36:23.65
reading this one.
00:36:23.68\00:36:25.01
It says 21 tools to
teach kids about Jesus.
00:36:25.05\00:36:28.15
And you can find this,
00:36:28.18\00:36:29.58
even at our call
center here at 3ABN.
00:36:29.62\00:36:32.15
So you can even
reach us here at 3ABN
00:36:32.19\00:36:34.49
by calling (618) 627-4651.
00:36:34.52\00:36:37.79
I'm still learning
how to memorize that.
00:36:37.83\00:36:39.29
But this is a powerful book.
00:36:39.33\00:36:41.03
And he talks about
some different things
00:36:41.06\00:36:43.90
about what, I don't
know what stands out to you
00:36:43.93\00:36:47.20
of these 21 tools.
00:36:47.24\00:36:49.24
But the one that steps out to me
00:36:49.27\00:36:51.54
is memorable.
00:36:51.57\00:36:52.91
And you talk about how
you with those dinosaurs,
00:36:52.94\00:36:55.84
for example, you
make that come alive.
00:36:55.88\00:36:57.45
And I know in teaching for me,
00:36:57.48\00:37:00.28
it was always what can
you do to impress the kids
00:37:00.32\00:37:02.98
that they are
going to remember it
00:37:03.02\00:37:04.95
and tie that into that lesson.
00:37:04.99\00:37:06.76
So tell us a little
bit more about this book?
00:37:06.79\00:37:08.29
Yeah, so as a creative person,
00:37:08.32\00:37:10.59
I discovered that
creativity was an amazing tool
00:37:10.63\00:37:13.40
to connect with kids
00:37:13.43\00:37:14.76
because with creativity,
you can make things memorable.
00:37:14.80\00:37:17.50
You can keep the kids guessing,
00:37:17.53\00:37:18.87
they don't know
what's going to happen next.
00:37:18.90\00:37:20.24
And these are all basic concepts
00:37:20.27\00:37:21.60
of children's ministries
00:37:21.64\00:37:22.97
that can be used to help
kids understand a lesson.
00:37:23.00\00:37:25.94
And to remember it,
00:37:25.97\00:37:27.31
cause if it's something
that they just hear and forget,
00:37:27.34\00:37:29.01
then what's the point of that.
00:37:29.04\00:37:30.61
So, during our
whole children's church
00:37:30.65\00:37:33.58
and the Guide
magazine and the traveling,
00:37:33.62\00:37:35.28
and then all that,
00:37:35.32\00:37:36.65
I've been able to
obviously learn a lot
00:37:36.69\00:37:38.05
about working with children.
00:37:38.09\00:37:39.99
And I finally kind
of came to that point
00:37:40.02\00:37:41.66
where, you know, like,
00:37:41.69\00:37:43.02
it'd be great to share
these ideas with a lot of,
00:37:43.06\00:37:46.19
'cause I keep running
into teachers and parents
00:37:46.23\00:37:48.10
and leaders and
children's ministries
00:37:48.13\00:37:49.73
and directors from
conferences and unions.
00:37:49.76\00:37:52.07
And they're
looking for inspiration
00:37:52.10\00:37:54.10
and looking for ideas
or looking for energy,
00:37:54.14\00:37:56.91
you know, they're trying
to produce some resources.
00:37:56.94\00:37:58.67
But at the end of the
day, what I noticed is
00:37:58.71\00:38:00.68
that there is
just an army of people
00:38:00.71\00:38:02.51
that had the
passion and the drive.
00:38:02.54\00:38:05.75
They just
didn't know what to do.
00:38:05.78\00:38:07.75
Or how to make it
happen? Or to make it happen.
00:38:07.78\00:38:09.42
So that's kind of the need
00:38:09.45\00:38:10.79
I was trying to
fill with that book
00:38:10.82\00:38:12.15
is just to
create some inspiration.
00:38:12.19\00:38:13.52
And then these 21 tools
00:38:13.56\00:38:14.89
are just kind of
ideas and how to do it.
00:38:14.92\00:38:17.23
And you mentioned on memorable,
00:38:17.26\00:38:18.69
so memorable is
one of the tools.
00:38:18.73\00:38:20.76
And, of course, I, you know,
00:38:20.80\00:38:22.40
write on about how
00:38:22.43\00:38:24.13
and different ways
that you can make programs
00:38:24.17\00:38:26.13
just be really sticky
00:38:26.17\00:38:27.90
and the way that they remember,
00:38:27.94\00:38:29.27
and I give illustrations of,
00:38:29.30\00:38:30.64
you know, things that we did
00:38:30.67\00:38:32.01
and kids are coming up
to me five years later.
00:38:32.04\00:38:33.38
And they're like,
00:38:33.41\00:38:34.74
I remember when
you did this thing
00:38:34.78\00:38:36.11
and it was awesome, like,
I've never forgotten that.
00:38:36.14\00:38:39.31
It takes a commitment because
when I make things memorable,
00:38:39.35\00:38:42.48
it takes time and
extra effort to do it,
00:38:42.52\00:38:45.05
because it takes
a lot more planning
00:38:45.09\00:38:46.89
and a lot more hours to do that.
00:38:46.92\00:38:48.42
So I really appreciate that
00:38:48.46\00:38:49.92
you are willing to
make that sacrifice
00:38:49.96\00:38:51.59
and making it memorable.
00:38:51.63\00:38:52.96
And a lot of people think that
you can just kind of wing it,
00:38:52.99\00:38:54.33
but really if you want
it to be very memorable
00:38:54.36\00:38:56.33
and really high quality,
00:38:56.36\00:38:57.70
it has to be planned out
and thought out very well.
00:38:57.73\00:39:00.57
So I believe you've
written some other books
00:39:00.60\00:39:02.60
that we will also have
00:39:02.64\00:39:04.31
and they can find
them at One Mustard Seed
00:39:04.34\00:39:06.17
or at our 3ABN.
00:39:06.21\00:39:07.81
And one of them is Fire Walkers.
00:39:07.84\00:39:09.48
Tell us about
that one a little bit?
00:39:09.51\00:39:10.85
Yeah.
00:39:10.88\00:39:12.21
So Fire Walkers is a new
series that we just started.
00:39:12.25\00:39:13.82
It's called
Bible Time Adventures.
00:39:13.85\00:39:15.22
And, I've kind of penciled out
00:39:15.25\00:39:16.85
already about 20,
25 different stories
00:39:16.89\00:39:18.99
that I'd like to write.
00:39:19.02\00:39:20.36
And the basic concept of that
00:39:20.39\00:39:21.82
is to teach and
tell a Bible story.
00:39:21.86\00:39:24.93
But the difference is
00:39:24.96\00:39:26.29
usually children
hear a Bible story
00:39:26.33\00:39:28.46
from the
perspective of the Bible
00:39:28.50\00:39:30.17
or from the adult
telling the story.
00:39:30.20\00:39:32.77
The idea that I had here
was to tell the Bible story
00:39:32.80\00:39:35.74
from the perspective of kids.
00:39:35.77\00:39:38.04
So what I've
done is I've created.
00:39:38.07\00:39:39.97
Fictional kid
characters that were there
00:39:40.01\00:39:44.11
at the Bible story,
00:39:44.15\00:39:45.75
and they saw the
entire thing unfold.
00:39:45.78\00:39:47.78
That's wonderful.
00:39:47.82\00:39:49.15
So I have a couple
of fictional characters
00:39:49.18\00:39:50.52
that are the main characters,
00:39:50.55\00:39:51.89
but they're,
they're step-by-step
00:39:51.92\00:39:53.25
in this Bible story.
00:39:53.29\00:39:54.62
Of course, Fire
Walkers is a story
00:39:54.66\00:39:55.99
of Shadrach,
Meshach, and Abednego.
00:39:56.02\00:39:57.99
And so, the kids are
basically siblings of Meshach.
00:39:58.03\00:40:02.70
And so they're drawn
into this entire story
00:40:02.73\00:40:05.70
from the moment they're captured
00:40:05.73\00:40:07.07
in Israel, Judea
00:40:07.10\00:40:09.40
all the way till
the fiery furnace.
00:40:09.44\00:40:12.11
I love it.
00:40:12.14\00:40:13.48
And so these kids are
there seeing the whole thing.
00:40:13.51\00:40:14.88
And that was the
idea is that just kind of
00:40:14.91\00:40:17.85
make the story a
little bit more exciting
00:40:17.88\00:40:19.51
because it's, these
kids are experiencing it.
00:40:19.55\00:40:21.55
And so that was the
idea with that series.
00:40:21.58\00:40:23.62
I just finished
writing the second book,
00:40:23.65\00:40:26.19
which is Fire from the Sky.
00:40:26.22\00:40:28.42
Fire from the Sky.
00:40:28.46\00:40:29.79
For the Bible
Time Adventure series.
00:40:29.82\00:40:31.96
Yep. Wow!
00:40:31.99\00:40:34.40
And then there's another book.
00:40:34.43\00:40:35.76
I like this one
00:40:35.80\00:40:37.13
because it says
Ridiculously Amazing Nature.
00:40:37.17\00:40:39.57
Okay.
00:40:39.60\00:40:40.94
I had a hard
time saying that one,
00:40:40.97\00:40:42.30
but I like how it's
lively, it's colorful
00:40:42.34\00:40:44.67
and there are little
snippets about nature.
00:40:44.71\00:40:46.44
Amen.
00:40:46.47\00:40:47.81
And it's just
wonderfully written.
00:40:47.84\00:40:49.18
So I really appreciate
00:40:49.21\00:40:50.55
what you've done
with these books.
00:40:50.58\00:40:52.31
And you've done
another ministry.
00:40:52.35\00:40:55.22
Well before you go into that,
00:40:55.25\00:40:56.58
let me make one comment
00:40:56.62\00:40:57.95
because I don't know about you,
00:40:57.99\00:40:59.52
but if you enjoy ministry
00:40:59.55\00:41:01.72
or have a passion for
ministering to children,
00:41:01.76\00:41:03.93
that 21 tools for children,
00:41:03.96\00:41:07.40
we want to tell you once again,
00:41:07.43\00:41:09.56
that these books
are available at 3ABN.
00:41:09.60\00:41:13.67
You can go on
our online at 3abn.tv
00:41:13.70\00:41:18.87
or you can call
us at (618) 627-4651,
00:41:18.91\00:41:24.11
or you can go straight to Rich
00:41:24.15\00:41:26.95
at OneMustardSeed.com
00:41:26.98\00:41:31.15
and you actually
began a publishing company,
00:41:31.19\00:41:35.49
One Mustard Seed publishing
to publish these books.
00:41:35.52\00:41:37.99
That's Right? Yep.
00:41:38.03\00:41:39.36
We figured if writing
was going to be a new area,
00:41:39.39\00:41:43.77
it'd be great to
just create an entity
00:41:43.80\00:41:45.53
that could do that.
00:41:45.57\00:41:46.90
A lot of times
working with publishers,
00:41:46.94\00:41:48.27
there some limits.
00:41:48.30\00:41:49.67
And one of the
goals that I've had
00:41:49.70\00:41:51.14
right from the beginning
00:41:51.17\00:41:52.51
when we started this was
00:41:52.54\00:41:53.88
to be able to reach
international audiences.
00:41:53.91\00:41:56.75
So we've already actually
started translating these books
00:41:56.78\00:41:59.01
into multiple languages,
00:41:59.05\00:42:00.38
21 tools is already
out in Spanish as well.
00:42:00.42\00:42:02.88
Wow.
00:42:02.92\00:42:04.25
We recently translated
it to Portuguese as well,
00:42:04.29\00:42:07.66
and those will be eBooks,
at least for now to start,
00:42:07.69\00:42:11.79
Fire Walkers is already
00:42:11.83\00:42:13.19
also in three or four languages.
00:42:13.23\00:42:14.90
So, you know, being
able to be the writer
00:42:14.93\00:42:17.07
and the publisher
00:42:17.10\00:42:18.43
allows you to have
a different strategy
00:42:18.47\00:42:20.67
and a different reach, goal.
00:42:20.70\00:42:23.71
So we started One
Mustard Seed publishing,
00:42:23.74\00:42:25.94
and that is our goal
00:42:25.97\00:42:27.64
to just keep
producing these books
00:42:27.68\00:42:29.01
that give God honor and glory
00:42:29.04\00:42:30.85
and make it exciting for kids
to be able to connect with God.
00:42:30.88\00:42:34.42
Praise the Lord.
00:42:34.45\00:42:35.78
And you did
something else that is amazing.
00:42:35.82\00:42:38.55
And that was for, to
reach our young children
00:42:38.59\00:42:41.02
that couldn't make
it to church anymore,
00:42:41.06\00:42:42.72
especially the
kindergarten group.
00:42:42.76\00:42:45.53
And I think you call it
00:42:45.56\00:42:46.90
kindergarten
Sabbath school review.
00:42:46.93\00:42:48.60
Well, it's actually the
primary Sabbath school class.
00:42:48.63\00:42:50.23
Primary. Sorry, okay.
00:42:50.27\00:42:51.70
And I was challenged to,
00:42:51.73\00:42:53.07
you know when
the pandemic started
00:42:53.10\00:42:54.74
the realization that a
lot of families and kids
00:42:54.77\00:42:56.71
were not able to
go to church anymore
00:42:56.74\00:42:58.24
and how to deal and
address that problem.
00:42:58.27\00:43:01.44
And it's interesting 'cause
obviously a lot of ideas start
00:43:01.48\00:43:04.75
because there's a
problem, there's a need
00:43:04.78\00:43:06.38
and how do you solve it?
00:43:06.41\00:43:07.75
And then comes the impression
that God gives you is,
00:43:07.78\00:43:10.99
are you in a position
to help solve that problem?
00:43:11.02\00:43:13.25
And that's kind of what we did
00:43:13.29\00:43:14.62
with this Sabbath
School Review ministry
00:43:14.66\00:43:18.23
that branch that we started.
00:43:18.26\00:43:20.13
Officially, it's called
Kid Sabbath School Review.
00:43:20.16\00:43:22.53
We do a weekly review
00:43:22.56\00:43:24.23
of the primary
Sabbath school class
00:43:24.27\00:43:26.53
that kids can watch at home.
00:43:26.57\00:43:27.90
There's a
website that goes with it
00:43:27.94\00:43:29.27
with all sorts of
additional resources
00:43:29.30\00:43:31.24
that help kids just
kind of dive into the lesson,
00:43:31.27\00:43:34.88
it's a subscription based idea.
00:43:34.91\00:43:38.75
So when we first started
00:43:38.78\00:43:41.42
right after the
pandemic in that April,
00:43:41.45\00:43:44.72
we started by just
producing these shows
00:43:44.75\00:43:46.45
and putting them on
YouTube and on Facebook.
00:43:46.49\00:43:48.09
And we were just getting
00:43:48.12\00:43:49.49
literally sometimes
tens of thousands of views
00:43:49.52\00:43:52.23
of these parents
00:43:52.26\00:43:53.60
that are just
trying to figure out
00:43:53.63\00:43:54.96
how to continue to
connect their kids to the Bible,
00:43:55.00\00:43:57.83
to the church, to the lesson,
00:43:57.87\00:43:59.73
but from home,
which was a huge problem.
00:43:59.77\00:44:01.90
And although there are
some churches out there
00:44:01.94\00:44:04.81
that are doing amazing
things, producing resources,
00:44:04.84\00:44:07.31
the great majority of them
00:44:07.34\00:44:08.98
did not have the
ability or resources
00:44:09.01\00:44:11.35
to be able to do something.
00:44:11.38\00:44:12.71
So we wanted to
help those churches.
00:44:12.75\00:44:14.38
And we want to pause right now
00:44:14.42\00:44:16.22
'cause I think you
brought a little reel on that.
00:44:16.25\00:44:17.59
I did.
00:44:17.62\00:44:18.95
And we want to
show that reel because,
00:44:18.99\00:44:21.09
for those of you at home,
we hear this quite often is,
00:44:21.12\00:44:24.03
you know, people
are calling and say,
00:44:24.06\00:44:26.26
praise God for 3ABN Kids Network
00:44:26.29\00:44:29.53
because our kids
can't go to church now,
00:44:29.56\00:44:32.67
our churches closed,
00:44:32.70\00:44:34.70
but I love this idea of
the Sabbath School Review.
00:44:34.74\00:44:38.14
And let's take a look
at that reel right now.
00:44:38.17\00:44:42.84
The weekly video
00:44:42.88\00:44:44.21
is the
centerpiece for each week.
00:44:44.25\00:44:46.11
Every week, I love
having several primary guests
00:44:46.15\00:44:48.72
on the show.
00:44:48.75\00:44:50.09
We start off with a brain teaser
00:44:50.12\00:44:51.99
and our artifact of the
week and our Bible verse.
00:44:52.02\00:44:55.39
Next, we dive
into the Bible story
00:44:55.42\00:44:57.26
for the lesson that week,
00:44:57.29\00:44:58.69
and I share a
personal adventure story
00:44:58.73\00:45:00.86
about the theme.
00:45:00.90\00:45:02.23
One of the most
popular parts of the show
00:45:02.26\00:45:04.40
is the Dusty and Feather show.
00:45:04.43\00:45:06.77
Even though they
could be a little silly,
00:45:06.80\00:45:08.54
they help us
learn about the lesson
00:45:08.57\00:45:10.44
with their knowledge of animals.
00:45:10.47\00:45:12.24
There's the KSSR
news and announcements
00:45:12.27\00:45:14.91
and game show time.
00:45:14.94\00:45:16.28
I love to quiz the kids.
00:45:16.31\00:45:17.98
At the end,
00:45:18.01\00:45:19.35
we reveal the
answer to the brain teaser
00:45:19.38\00:45:21.45
and we check out the
mystery, WhatzIT for the week.
00:45:21.48\00:45:24.39
And I give out
the mission project
00:45:24.42\00:45:26.55
to help kids live out
00:45:26.59\00:45:28.19
what they've learned
in the lesson that week.
00:45:28.22\00:45:30.23
And it all ties back
to our Facebook group page
00:45:30.26\00:45:33.56
where the entire
community can interact.
00:45:33.60\00:45:36.23
I even mail out a
mission project prize
00:45:36.26\00:45:38.87
every single week.
00:45:38.90\00:45:40.40
We close with more of
your kids having prayer.
00:45:40.44\00:45:43.54
And the main part of my goal
00:45:43.57\00:45:45.14
is to have your kids participate
00:45:45.17\00:45:47.14
and take ownership in
their spiritual journey.
00:45:47.18\00:45:49.94
After the video,
00:45:49.98\00:45:51.31
kids have fun
repeating the lesson points
00:45:51.35\00:45:53.31
on the website.
00:45:53.35\00:45:54.72
Each week, we create
brand new online games
00:45:54.75\00:45:58.15
that reinforce the
Bible theme that week.
00:45:58.19\00:46:00.59
They can respond
to the WhatzIT poll,
00:46:00.62\00:46:02.46
laugh in our funny corner,
00:46:02.49\00:46:04.06
watch the weekly
grace link lesson cartoon
00:46:04.09\00:46:06.36
and more.
00:46:06.39\00:46:10.37
I really appreciate
all that you're doing.
00:46:10.40\00:46:12.10
And you've been part
of 3ABN for several years,
00:46:12.13\00:46:14.50
even before I came.
00:46:14.54\00:46:15.87
Isn't that right? That's right.
00:46:15.90\00:46:17.24
It's been a lot of fun working
on various different projects.
00:46:17.27\00:46:20.14
And, of course, the one
00:46:20.18\00:46:21.84
that a lot of people
are familiar with right now
00:46:21.88\00:46:24.05
is Bible Treasures,
00:46:24.08\00:46:25.61
which is a fun way
to just kind of get kids
00:46:25.65\00:46:28.48
to think outside the box,
get creative, get exciting.
00:46:28.52\00:46:31.09
You know, we have it set
out on some archeological dig
00:46:31.12\00:46:34.09
and there's
artifacts and Bible treasures
00:46:34.12\00:46:36.62
and Bible verses and stories.
00:46:36.66\00:46:39.06
So it's a lot of fun doing that
00:46:39.09\00:46:40.66
and we are hoping to
continue to produce those.
00:46:40.70\00:46:44.40
So it's just put
it on the list, right?
00:46:44.43\00:46:46.20
Yes.
00:46:46.23\00:46:47.57
We have that on
our list for sure.
00:46:47.60\00:46:48.94
And, of course, it's been.
00:46:48.97\00:46:50.31
I know that you guys have
been showing the Creation Case
00:46:50.34\00:46:51.74
for some time as well.
00:46:51.77\00:46:53.64
I know that I'll...
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And explain what
the Creation Case is?
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So the Creation
Case, it was a series
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that I worked with
the General Conference
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to produce the children's
ministries general conference
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and it was these episodes
to help kids and parents
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be able to kind of wrestle
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with the
creation-evolution issue
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because as always
somebody claims something
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and it seems like
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there was always
two different angles,
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the secular view,
and the biblical view.
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But as far as I could tell,
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the kids were really
only hearing the secular view
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at school and movies
and television shows, books.
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They were, it was
a one-sided thing.
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So I knew that
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there needed to be
some sort of balance there.
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So we produced that,
that series for that.
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Wonderful. Yes.
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And, of course, I've worked on,
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I think you guys
have shown Bible,
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The Big Three.
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Big Three, everyone's favorite.
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And I was the, for a
couple of years there,
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The Nature Time
guy on Kids Time.
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So it's been a lot of fun,
00:47:45.83\00:47:47.16
a lot of great
projects with you guys.
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And aren't you too
cooking up something
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that kind of got
postponed by the pandemic,
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but aren't you
cooking up a new idea?
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Yep.
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That was that
the reality TV idea
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that we hope to pick up again.
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And if you're interested
in signing up to be on that,
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hopefully, a future
project there in Costa Rica,
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you can go to my
website at OneMustardSeed
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and there is a signup place.
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And once we
kinda get out the door
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with the pandemic,
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I will be reaching
out again to the families
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that have signed up to see
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if they want to
join us on that project.
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You know, to me, it's so obvious
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that God's got
His hand on your life,
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that He called you.
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You have such a
passion for this.
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You studied architecture,
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which is a lot of
technical writing.
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Let me tell you,
that's the only reason
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I didn't become an architect
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because there's very little time
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to be creative,
00:48:36.04\00:48:37.38
but God gave you
that creative side.
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He taught you the
structure of things
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because not only do you
have creative ideas for this,
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but you are
building the infrastructure.
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It's so amazing.
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You're a very productive person.
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Let me ask you,
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how has God changed you
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during these years
of full-time ministry?
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Talk about your walk of
faith, how important it is,
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and how He's
clarified your vision?
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Yeah.
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You know, the One
Mustard Seed title
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really hit home,
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especially early on
00:49:10.85\00:49:12.18
because there
was a couple of years
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right out the
gate that it was scary.
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I'm sure.
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The leap of faith
into this ministry was,
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you know, we got
to a couple of moments
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where we felt like
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we were financially
at the edge of a cliff
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and it's learning
then training yourself
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to say, God, this is You.
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This is for You.
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So if you need this to continue,
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or if You need this to
fail, whatever happens,
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this is all in Your hands.
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And, you know, we
arrived to that cliff
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and some scary
stories that I can share,
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but then God pulls us back
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and then creates
blessings and opportunities
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and possibilities
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that we never even
dreamed of being able to do.
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And it's kind of funny because
00:49:52.69\00:49:54.02
when the pandemic
started a lot of people like,
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oh, this is horrible.
00:49:55.42\00:49:57.23
But then you
hear other people say,
00:49:57.26\00:49:59.03
this has been,
00:49:59.06\00:50:00.40
if it wasn't for
the pandemic starting,
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these other opportunities
may not have come out.
00:50:02.56\00:50:06.17
And it's
interesting how God works
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because even when people think,
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oh, you know, it's
so bad and so horrible,
00:50:08.94\00:50:10.94
new, amazing opportunities
to reach even farther develop.
00:50:10.97\00:50:14.94
And, you know, the
kids Sabbath School Review
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was kind of something like that
00:50:17.08\00:50:18.51
because we were
able to reach way more
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people than we
were able to before,
00:50:21.15\00:50:24.05
because the
children were stuck at home
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or didn't have
content or whatever.
00:50:26.39\00:50:27.99
So just amazing how
God works and all along,
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He's just continually done that
00:50:31.26\00:50:32.66
where you think
this is gonna happen,
00:50:32.69\00:50:34.30
but then he turns
you in this direction.
00:50:34.33\00:50:35.93
And he turns you
in this direction
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and that hope,
00:50:37.33\00:50:38.67
God opened the door.
I'll walk through it.
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That's been a daily walk.
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And I believe that
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we didn't show
the Bible Treasures
00:50:44.74\00:50:47.34
for those of you
that haven't seen it.
00:50:47.38\00:50:49.81
You can see this roll
00:50:49.84\00:50:51.41
and a little bit
about Bible Treasures.
00:50:51.45\00:50:53.52
First things first,
00:50:53.55\00:50:54.88
let's get this
question in our journal.
00:50:54.92\00:50:56.25
Good idea. That's a good idea.
00:50:56.28\00:50:57.62
A problem with pride.
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Hmm.
00:51:04.63\00:51:05.96
Good question. Yeah.
00:51:05.99\00:51:07.90
You know what though?
00:51:07.93\00:51:09.26
I think I have an idea. What?
00:51:09.30\00:51:10.63
But we need an
artifact. Oh, yeah.
00:51:10.67\00:51:12.10
Nori, can you get one
for us? Yeah, what number?
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I think it's 17D.
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17D. Yeah.
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I think that'll help us.
00:51:16.27\00:51:17.61
I love how we bring
our little props along
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and our little treasures along,
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and they help us
teach these lessons.
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Found it. Awesome.
00:51:22.18\00:51:23.51
What's that? This is a building.
00:51:23.55\00:51:26.25
Wow. It's called
the Burj Khalifa.
00:51:26.28\00:51:28.45
And it's located
in a city called Dubai
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in a country called
the United Arab Emirates.
00:51:31.22\00:51:33.92
Oh, awesome.
00:51:33.96\00:51:35.29
Is it the tallest
building in the world?
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It is the tallest
building in the world.
00:51:36.69\00:51:38.03
Yeah!
00:51:38.06\00:51:39.39
Hey, Sam, can you show us
on the map where Dubai is?
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Sure. Yeah, I wanna know.
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It's right here.
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There it is. Yep.
00:51:43.53\00:51:44.87
Boy, the kids
love Bible Treasures.
00:51:44.90\00:51:47.54
And as I said,
00:51:47.57\00:51:49.00
I know just as many
adults who love it as well.
00:51:49.04\00:51:51.84
We are so thankful
00:51:51.87\00:51:53.71
that you're part of our
3ABN Kids Network Ministries.
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You know what we're gonna do.
00:51:59.98\00:52:01.32
We're gonna take a quick break,
going to a 3ABN news break,
00:52:01.35\00:52:05.45
but we'll be right
back with a closing thought.
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