As you're well aware,
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we're living in
unprecedented times.
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Join us now for
today's special program.
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Removing pain
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Lord, let my words
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Heal a heart that hurts
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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Hello and welcome to
another 3ABN Today program.
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We've been looking forward
to spending this time with you.
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Thank you for letting us
come into your living room
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or maybe you're
driving in your car
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and listening
to us on the radio.
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You're part of our family.
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So what a great time
we're gonna have here today.
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We're gonna have a
lot of fun, aren't we?
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Oh, yes. Yes.
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And why are we?
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We have one of our favorite
couples in the entire world
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with an incredible ministry.
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They have been on
3ABN since before I came,
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so we wouldn't say
that makes them old.
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It just makes them
longstanding friends
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of the ministry here.
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Sweetie. That's good.
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Can we introduce them?
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Let's do it. Yay.
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We have Curtis and Paula Eakins.
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I wanna to introduce myself.
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Yeah. Oh, we?
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Longstanding.
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I like that term, longstanding,
mature, yeah, longstanding.
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Okay, I like those.
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Kudos to you.
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Good move. We love you both.
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Oh, for sure.
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You guys are part
of the 3ABN family
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I know for sure.
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I know when we came up here.
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I think couple years ago,
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you will say Jill, welcome home.
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Yes.
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You'll be saying,
welcome home. Yeah, so.
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I mean, you're
part of the 3ABN family
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because you've been
a part of this ministry
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coming here for about 25 years.
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Isn't it 24?
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It will be 24 next March. Okay.
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Yeah, That's
incredible, next March.
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Yeah.
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In fact we actually
meet people who say,
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"I used to watch
you when you were
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when I was this really young."
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Really? That's a rude awakening.
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When I was small, I
grew up watching you guys.
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Grew up watching you guys. Yeah.
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That would hit me hard.
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Guys aren't
getting any older though.
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I mean, you guys
still look fantastic.
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Praise Him. Greg.
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Yes, sir. I love you.
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Yeah. We love you too.
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Now, I have to
say, you know, you're,
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I consider you kind of another
set of parents for me too,
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because you kind
of helped raise me.
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When I first came to
3ABN, I was running camp.
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When I first came
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I was actually
sweeping floors and stuff.
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And then I moved to
production to running camera
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and that was at the
Uplink, the original building.
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And they came doing the
program Abundant Living.
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Yes.
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And I remember, I was
so excited and so pleased
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because I got to run a camera
at that point, it wasn't a jib.
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It was up on a high stand.
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And I got to take the food shots
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of Paula and Curtis Eakins and,
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man, I was like, I
felt like I was growing up.
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So I tell you, what a
blast to work with you guys.
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I know the crew always loves
working with each one of you.
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The dynamic that
you see on camera
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is the same that you
see behind the camera,
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you know, offset, may we say
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and you guys
just love each other
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and that's obvious.
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You love the Word...
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It's a bit higher up
notch offset with no cam.
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Okay, yeah.
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See, on camera,
we kind of subdue
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just a little bit though,
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off camera's little bit more.
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Yeah, because other
people are watching.
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So, yes, we try to
be, you know, kosher.
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Okay, well, you
guys gonna say that.
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We won't go into more detail.
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You know, and this time, though,
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you know, you all
aren't doing cooking.
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Usually, a lot of times
you're here doing cooking,
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but today is going
to be really exciting,
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because this is,
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there's some phenomenal things
happening with their ministry.
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And we want to
touch on those updates.
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But before we get to that,
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there's some other things
we want to talk about too.
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Absolutely.
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I love their ministry. Oh, yeah.
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I love their heart for ministry.
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Amen.
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And we want to go back
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to the very
beginning you could say.
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Let's start with you,
Curtis. Oh, my goodness.
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So tell us what even made you
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want to get involved
in health ministries?
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Why were you even
interested in that?
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Good question.
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Think about that
for a moment. Okay.
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While you think about
it, Paula, should we go to,
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no, just kidding.
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We go to you. I
go to Mrs. Curtis.
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This is gonna be a long program,
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I can see this right now.
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Back in the 1950s, all right?
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My grandmother was
the Baptist at the time,
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she was studying.
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She felt that
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some of her
questions wasn't answered.
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So she saw a magazine called
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"Message Magazine"
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back in the 50s.
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Adventist magazine,
she saw it, she read it.
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And she signed off
for the Bible studies.
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I think is Voice of Prophecy
in California, I think it was.
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Incredible.
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And she send for
those Bible studies,
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she realize that
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those Bible studies
have all the answers
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that she was asking
in those Bible studies.
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From that one Message Magazine
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came four generations
of Seventh-day Adventists
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for one Message Magazine.
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So therefore, and so
when she joined the church,
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Seventh-day Adventist Church.
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One of the
members gave her a book
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because she had
some health challenges,
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so colds and fainting
spells and that kind of thing.
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So one of the members
gave her a book called
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"Back to Eden."
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Oh, yeah.
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I mean, it's a classic,
Jethro Kloss back in 1940s,
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I think maybe still in print.
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And she read that book.
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Every time she read the book,
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her lifestyle began to
change in a healthier format.
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So growing up,
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as a little boy, six
and seven years of age,
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I was spending summers
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with my grandmother and
grandfather at the time,
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about six and
seven years of age.
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So I got there
for the summertime.
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She poured into me some
of the health principles
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she had been learning
from that book Back to Eden.
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Oh, wow.
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So we had a peppermint
plant outside the kitchen.
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Tell me what that was
for and long story short,
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one day, I came downstairs.
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My normal habit
of eating breakfast,
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come downstairs,
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Kellogg's cornflakes,
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maybe the only
cereal back in the 60s.
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And in milk,
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I had a chest congestion
and cold, common cold,
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some nasal
congestion that morning.
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And when I came downstairs,
got the Kellogg's cornflakes,
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put in a bowl,
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and then about to pour
the milk into the bowl.
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When I did that,
right before I did that,
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my grandmother
came around the corner,
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came into the kitchen.
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She said Curtis,
this is what she said.
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Now this was over 50 years ago.
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"You cannot have milk today."
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Wow.
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I said, "Why not mother dear?"
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I called her mother dear.
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This is what she said.
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"Because milk has snuck in it."
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Oh.
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So you're like.
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And I said to
myself six years old like,
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"If you knew that,
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why am I drinking
milk all this time?"
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I mean, it just
kind of stunned me.
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As I grew older,
and studied on my own,
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I realized what she is trying
to tell a six year old child,
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milk is mucus forming.
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Yes.
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Oh, that's what she's
trying to tell me years ago.
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As I grew older,
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I began to learn more
about healthful living
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studying on my own.
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And then about 23, 24 years old,
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I was reading a book called
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"Counsels on Diet and Foods."
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And there's one statement I read
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that changed my life as
far as my eating was concerned.
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Page 389, this is what it says.
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"A religious life can
be more successfully gained
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and maintained
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if meat is discarded,"
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Wow, meat,
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they continue to quote,
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"For this diet and feeble, "
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that means make sick.
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Here's the thing, the clincher,
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"the moral and
spiritual nature."
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When I realized
that meat does that.
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Now, if you told
me at the age of 23,
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it can increased
risk of heart disease,
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cancer, prostate,
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whatever, you know,
that would not faze me.
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But when I realized that
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this diet and feebles the
moral and spiritual nature,
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that got my attention.
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So the spiritual aspect
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caught your
attention right away?
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That got my attention. Yeah.
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That Sunday night.
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No more meat,
no more hamburgers.
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That Monday morning
I became a lacto-ovo.
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Well lacto-ovo chicco fishel,
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you know, and then
that's a power of God.
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Let's interpret that,
Paula, 'cause I don't get.
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There be some
more jokes coming by.
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Yeah, so then after a while.
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So why not just
get rid of the fish
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and chicken too.
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So I became a vegetarian
because of that one statement,
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and then evolved into
more of a plant-based diet
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from there on for over 30 years.
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But my grandmother
planted the seed in me
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as a young child.
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And so she lived a long life.
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She just passed away
just a few years ago.
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At the age of 110,
with no medication.
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Well, she came on the show.
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I remember that.
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She was 108 then,
with no medication.
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So that was my inspiration.
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And I'm involved
into health ministry
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because my grandmother
planted the seed in me
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in a young early age.
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Now that my wife,
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you have a different
kind of story to tell
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as far as how you got into
the health ministry as well.
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Are they going to
ask me that question
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after you finish?
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Yes, I have
plenty of time. Yeah.
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I can talk more but
the clock is ticking,
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so would you have
something to share too, Honey?
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Well, mine was, you know what?
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I think we just sit
back and just kind of let...
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I think there is, yay.
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Oh, no, no,
don't get too relaxed.
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We're coming
back on this program.
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Okay.
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And so, Paula,
actually what about you?
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Yeah, mine's is
different in that,
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you know, I've been through
a lot of stuff in my life.
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And when I found
Christ as my personal Savior,
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and of course, we came
into the Adventist movement.
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Yeah.
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The more I studied,
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the more I started
reading and seeing things
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about the Sabbath,
and how did I miss that?
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And, you know, all
those kind of things.
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I also at that particular time
was very interested in health.
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Now, how old
were you at that time?
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Would this be teenage, 20s?
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I was a young adult,
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when I first started getting
a message about Adventism.
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All right?
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And so, with that in
mind, I went to a class,
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a cooking class,
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and this was on Counsel
on Diets and Foods as well.
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It was way beyond
what I wanted to even hear.
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All the stuff that
was being said to me,
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all that we had to go home
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and do the
homework from the chapters.
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I did a lot of crying,
a lot of prayers to say,
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no way I'm gonna get off
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all the stuff they're telling me
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I'm not supposed to
eat, that's not gonna work,
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because I'm one of 10 children.
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And so we ate everything
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that wasn't
nailed down to the floor.
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When it came to spirituality
and learning about health,
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it was like,
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"I don't know about that."
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So I went to this class.
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And when the instructor said,
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"You know,
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the husband is the
priest of the home.
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But the mother
is the gatekeeper."
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I said,
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"Oh, boy, if I didn't
get enough information
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already from
Counsels on Diets and Foods,
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and now you're telling
me that I'm the gatekeeper."
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And she said,
"And by gatekeeper, "
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she kept going,
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"That means that
you have the ability
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to either make or
break your family's health,
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by what you're feeding them."
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I'm like okay.
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That's a heavy
duty responsibility.
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That's a big one. Yeah.
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So all the things
that I thought was okay,
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all the things that I
have been eating in the past,
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I had to go into some
serious prayer to ask God,
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you just need to help me
because there's just no way.
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And my daughter at
that time, she said,
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"Mom,"
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she said, "I don't
know why it's a big deal.
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Why don't you just
take your books and stuff
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and turn them
into healthier recipes,
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you know, just
switch things out."
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Out of mouth of babes.
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And it took a lot,
I went in the kitchen,
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started working with
recipes, I prayed a lot.
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And one of the things
that God said to me was I said,
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"Father, how in the world
00:12:11.03\00:12:12.36
are we going to
change these diet out?"
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And you know what He said?
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"I'm the creator of all things,"
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Paula,
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"You know, just
go in the kitchen.
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And I will show you what to do."
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And I just went in here
and start working on recipes.
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And I want to say
that before that time,
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my family had colds, they
were kind of stressed out.
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My son was having a
lot of issues in school.
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When I changed the diet
out, I mean, everything.
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I mean, I was doing everything
from breads to the meats,
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everything from scratch.
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Wow.
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I saw a healing,
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and not just my son
and his attitude in school,
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but myself, my daughter as well.
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And that's when I saw
that there is a connection
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between what you're eating,
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and also what
happens to you later.
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So you saw the healing
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physically as
well as emotionally
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or socially or spiritually?
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I wanna say
physically, spiritually,
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mentally, and socially,
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I wanna say,
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even to the
point of the Lord said,
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you even you look at your
children's sleeping habits,
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you need to look at
the toys they play with.
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I mean, he went all
the way, all the way.
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And I thought about things like
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who would ever
think that anything wrong
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with little army
men inside of the box,
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toy boxes.
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But he still went all the way,
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he went from health,
physically, spiritually,
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mentally, socially.
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So I was actually in school.
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And after I got
all excited about it,
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my friends started telling about
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how good the food was tasting.
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The next thing I knew
I was telling my pastor,
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can I do some cooking
classes here at the church?
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Now, I had no education
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is other than what
I have been learning
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right from
counsel and other thing.
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And when I began
to teach classes,
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people would say things to
me like sodium, carbohydrates,
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I just knew how to fix the food.
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And I said,
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"What does that do for you
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from a carbohydrate standpoint?"
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Or they'll say,
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"So what exactly is sodium?"
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And the Lord said,
"You need to go to school."
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Wow.
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I said school, and so really,
as a little more mature adult,
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I then decided to
go back to school.
00:14:01.84\00:14:07.28
When she answered the
question, she's cutting more.
00:14:07.31\00:14:09.68
I think she
overlooked that. Okay.
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The Lord just really blessed
00:14:11.65\00:14:12.98
because I went through
the whole school gambit.
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I was the first person
in a row in a classroom
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in the area of nutrition.
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And to the point where I just,
I was amazed at the anatomy,
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physiology of the
body and what was going on.
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And the schools I went to
was not plant-based, right?
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Yeah.
00:14:27.93\00:14:29.26
So when I had my
classes on the lab portion,
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I would actually you
had to go to the lab quick,
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look on the board to
see what's being fixed.
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And me and the girls, I
was actually with my team.
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We would go down early,
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get in the class
before it got started
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and grab all the
foods that were plant-based,
00:14:42.48\00:14:44.21
because you had to fix
those foods in your cubicle.
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Oh, my.
00:14:46.28\00:14:47.62
That's how they
really kind of learned
00:14:47.65\00:14:48.98
about the fact of plant-based.
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And my teacher at
that time, she said,
00:14:51.19\00:14:52.52
"Paula, I don't
know what you're doing,
00:14:52.55\00:14:53.89
but I'm gonna
tell you right now."
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That was way back then,
plant-based is not going to go,
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you will not get a job
00:14:57.73\00:14:59.26
teaching anything in
the area of vegetarianism,
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so you could forget that.
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Years later I saw her again,
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with a master's degree
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and teaching
plant-based literally.
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Before we talk about how
you all teamed up together,
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I want to just maybe you
can talk to someone at home
00:15:12.74\00:15:14.94
because you
mentioned something to me.
00:15:14.98\00:15:17.41
When you were
talking about the transition,
00:15:17.45\00:15:19.41
we started finding out
about this new information
00:15:19.45\00:15:21.02
about plant-based,
00:15:21.05\00:15:22.38
there are a lot
of tears, a struggle.
00:15:22.42\00:15:23.89
There's someone
at home right now
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that may be eating everything
that's not nailed down either.
00:15:25.29\00:15:27.36
And trying to figure
out what's the first step,
00:15:27.39\00:15:29.29
because we know
there's something better
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what do we do?
00:15:30.99\00:15:32.33
Yeah. Go ahead. Yeah.
00:15:32.36\00:15:33.70
For me, I went back
and looked at my cookbooks
00:15:33.73\00:15:36.20
that I already had at home.
00:15:36.23\00:15:38.23
And I began
praying and asking God,
00:15:38.27\00:15:39.77
how can we switch things out?
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Okay.
00:15:41.17\00:15:42.50
So sometimes people think
you have to change everything
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and throw the baby
out with the bathwater,
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that's not true.
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You can actually look at recipes
00:15:46.64\00:15:47.98
we call your super
foods that you really like.
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And you can actually see
00:15:50.21\00:15:51.55
how can I switch
things out for instance.
00:15:51.58\00:15:53.45
Biscuits and
gravy I was thinking.
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Biscuits and gravy, you know,
00:15:54.85\00:15:56.18
now we're going to
make a whole wheat biscuit
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instead of a white biscuit.
00:15:57.89\00:15:59.22
Okay, we're
going to make a gravy
00:15:59.25\00:16:00.59
and this gravy
can use a soy milk
00:16:00.62\00:16:02.19
or almond milk or rice milk.
00:16:02.22\00:16:04.03
So the thing is that
people think it's so difficult,
00:16:04.06\00:16:05.99
but it's not really difficult.
00:16:06.03\00:16:07.90
Remember now, in the
first book of the Bible,
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in Genesis,
00:16:09.63\00:16:10.97
God speaks about the diet, okay?
00:16:11.00\00:16:13.00
So because He speaks about
it, and then in Genesis 3:18,
00:16:13.03\00:16:15.70
He goes a step
further with a diet.
00:16:15.74\00:16:17.67
So really, I think
the Master really knows
00:16:17.71\00:16:19.17
what we're supposed to do.
00:16:19.21\00:16:20.54
Yeah.
00:16:20.58\00:16:21.91
But the biggest
thing for us is that
00:16:21.94\00:16:23.28
it's hard for
us to make changes.
00:16:23.31\00:16:24.68
Yes.
00:16:24.71\00:16:26.05
And we really have because
we love that fried chicken
00:16:26.08\00:16:28.68
and collard greens and
biscuits and gravy, okay?
00:16:28.72\00:16:31.95
But we can learn how
to really change them.
00:16:31.99\00:16:34.82
We don't have to let it go.
00:16:34.86\00:16:36.42
We have to learn
how to make it better.
00:16:36.46\00:16:37.89
Boy, I like that,
how do we make it better.
00:16:37.93\00:16:40.13
I love that. Curtis?
00:16:40.16\00:16:41.50
We're not taking anything away
00:16:41.53\00:16:43.47
unless we give them
something better in its place.
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That's it. I like that.
00:16:45.57\00:16:47.70
Otherwise, they
won't buy into it really.
00:16:47.74\00:16:50.94
It had to be better,
better tasting, healthier,
00:16:50.97\00:16:54.94
and cost less.
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That's it.
00:16:56.34\00:16:57.68
She has a gift of cooking.
00:16:57.71\00:16:59.48
It is actually a gift.
00:16:59.51\00:17:01.68
Ellen White said,
00:17:01.72\00:17:03.05
"It is the best
gift available is worth
00:17:03.08\00:17:08.56
"ten talents."
00:17:08.59\00:17:10.63
Wow.
00:17:10.66\00:17:11.99
"Ten talents."
00:17:12.03\00:17:13.36
That's amazing.
00:17:13.40\00:17:14.73
So I mean, really
just something we do
00:17:14.76\00:17:16.60
every single
day that transition.
00:17:16.63\00:17:20.27
And must look appealing.
00:17:20.30\00:17:22.10
So do not put a
green split pea burger
00:17:22.14\00:17:25.74
in front of me
00:17:25.77\00:17:27.11
because burger is not green,
it's supposed to be brown.
00:17:27.14\00:17:29.81
No, really 'cause we
eat also with our eyes,
00:17:29.84\00:17:33.75
and the mouth
texture, appeal, the smell.
00:17:33.78\00:17:37.09
All of that has to be in play.
00:17:37.12\00:17:38.85
And God really
blessed her with that.
00:17:38.89\00:17:40.49
Oh, absolutely.
00:17:40.52\00:17:41.86
I know my brain would shook,
00:17:41.89\00:17:43.22
'cause that's why
I'm sticking with her.
00:17:43.26\00:17:44.59
I mean, look,
if she ever leaves,
00:17:44.63\00:17:47.20
I'm going with her.
00:17:47.23\00:17:48.56
Yeah, you guys are a
team. Yeah, I'm going with you.
00:17:48.60\00:17:50.27
You guys are amazing.
00:17:50.30\00:17:51.63
Absolutely.
00:17:51.67\00:17:53.03
I just think about the training
00:17:53.07\00:17:57.64
from when you were young,
00:17:57.67\00:17:59.21
you know, your grandmother
talking to you and family.
00:17:59.24\00:18:03.91
This is a
question for you, Curtis,
00:18:03.95\00:18:05.28
and then get to
how y'all got together?
00:18:05.31\00:18:07.48
Talk to someone at home
who maybe is a grandparent,
00:18:07.52\00:18:11.25
maybe their
grandkids aren't eating well,
00:18:11.29\00:18:13.72
maybe their grandkids
00:18:13.76\00:18:15.09
don't even really walk with God.
00:18:15.12\00:18:16.52
What can they do
00:18:16.56\00:18:18.29
to be an influence
in those baby's lives?
00:18:18.33\00:18:21.50
Okay, well, this is my
cam, no this might be, okay.
00:18:21.53\00:18:26.87
No, I'm serious, I
want to talk to the people
00:18:26.90\00:18:28.37
because a lot of times
00:18:28.40\00:18:29.74
a lot of grandparents
are now raising their kids,
00:18:29.77\00:18:33.17
the grandkids, right?
00:18:33.21\00:18:34.58
And so therefore, get
them into the kitchen.
00:18:34.61\00:18:38.38
Help them make
meals for the family,
00:18:38.41\00:18:41.65
get them really involved.
00:18:41.68\00:18:43.79
We're talking
about hands-on really,
00:18:43.82\00:18:47.52
so they know exactly what to do.
00:18:47.56\00:18:49.26
Love it.
00:18:49.29\00:18:50.63
Teach them in a very tender way
00:18:50.66\00:18:53.56
why this is prepared this
way as opposed to that way.
00:18:53.60\00:18:57.73
My grandmother taught me.
00:18:57.77\00:18:59.27
She taught me as a young child
six and seven years of age,
00:18:59.30\00:19:02.80
why we ate the way we ate
00:19:02.84\00:19:05.17
while spending the summers
00:19:05.21\00:19:06.54
with my
grandfather and grandmother
00:19:06.57\00:19:08.54
there in a country in Ohio.
00:19:08.58\00:19:10.51
So I understood not
just why I'm eating this,
00:19:10.55\00:19:13.78
but the impact it
has on my system as well,
00:19:13.82\00:19:18.02
education that a child
can understand, all right.
00:19:18.05\00:19:21.76
So, but get them involved.
00:19:21.79\00:19:23.12
I think my wife,
00:19:23.16\00:19:24.49
she talks about cooking class
00:19:24.53\00:19:25.86
where sometimes more people are,
00:19:25.89\00:19:28.60
it sticks
better when you see it,
00:19:28.63\00:19:32.37
even better still
when you see it and do it.
00:19:32.40\00:19:34.70
Oh, yeah.
00:19:34.74\00:19:36.07
Hands-on, so get them
involved in the transition.
00:19:36.10\00:19:38.21
We say, "Take the
children shopping."
00:19:38.24\00:19:39.91
You know, I used
to ask my students,
00:19:39.94\00:19:41.94
"Okay, it's time for
us to go to the store.
00:19:41.98\00:19:43.75
What are we going to buy?"
00:19:43.78\00:19:45.11
And then I'd say,
00:19:45.15\00:19:46.48
"Okay, we have
to have a vegetable.
00:19:46.51\00:19:47.85
All right. Then we
have to have a start."
00:19:47.88\00:19:49.22
So they learn those things.
So they're now a part of it.
00:19:49.25\00:19:51.35
So they're
picking the foods out.
00:19:51.39\00:19:52.89
They're going
to bring them home.
00:19:52.92\00:19:54.26
And then, well, I
want potato chips.
00:19:54.29\00:19:55.72
Okay, well, how about a potato?
00:19:55.76\00:19:57.36
What are we gonna do with that?
00:19:57.39\00:19:58.73
Well, let's get a baked
potato and let's cut it up,
00:19:58.76\00:20:00.70
put it in the oven.
00:20:00.73\00:20:02.06
Let's make
potato chips out of it.
00:20:02.10\00:20:03.43
Why?
00:20:03.47\00:20:05.13
So it's not as
hard as people make it.
00:20:05.17\00:20:08.00
But you do have to be committed.
00:20:08.04\00:20:09.37
And also when for
the grandmother part
00:20:09.40\00:20:11.07
is a spiritual part.
00:20:11.11\00:20:12.54
They're not just
learning about foods.
00:20:12.57\00:20:14.44
They're also learning.
She was very spiritual.
00:20:14.48\00:20:16.51
She prayed a lot. She
talked a lot to Curtis.
00:20:16.54\00:20:19.01
And so that's very important
00:20:19.05\00:20:21.18
because they have to
know the other part of it.
00:20:21.22\00:20:23.18
The other part of being
healthy is who makes us healthy.
00:20:23.22\00:20:26.02
And why are we healthy?
00:20:26.05\00:20:27.56
And let's pray about that.
00:20:27.59\00:20:29.12
And this is what
the children learn.
00:20:29.16\00:20:31.26
They learn from
their grandparent,
00:20:31.29\00:20:33.13
and my children,
00:20:33.16\00:20:34.50
of course, learn from me
00:20:34.53\00:20:35.86
because my grandparent
wasn't in that and so that's,
00:20:35.90\00:20:38.37
it's all together.
00:20:38.40\00:20:39.73
Yeah, the spiritual aspect, too.
00:20:39.77\00:20:41.10
That's really good
00:20:41.14\00:20:42.47
because they
realized the Creator God
00:20:42.50\00:20:43.84
is when He
created each one of us
00:20:43.87\00:20:45.21
and He's interested in
our health and well-being.
00:20:45.24\00:20:46.68
So tell us how you guys
then got together first,
00:20:46.71\00:20:48.88
ministering together
00:20:48.91\00:20:50.25
because I
believe Abundant Living
00:20:50.28\00:20:51.61
is one of the longest
running programs on 3ABN.
00:20:51.65\00:20:53.68
Do you really
think so? Is it really?
00:20:53.72\00:20:55.75
We have the flagship
programs like Today program.
00:20:55.78\00:20:58.39
Now we have like
you're viewing right now
00:20:58.42\00:21:00.22
and like the Thursday Night Live
00:21:00.26\00:21:01.59
and some other programs,
00:21:01.62\00:21:02.96
but Abundant Living
is one of the longest.
00:21:02.99\00:21:04.33
So were you in
ministry before you came here
00:21:04.36\00:21:05.93
and started
doing Abundant Living?
00:21:05.96\00:21:07.30
Oh, yes, yes.
00:21:07.33\00:21:08.66
So tell us how it all happened?
00:21:08.70\00:21:10.03
Of course, now
from a math standpoint,
00:21:10.07\00:21:11.77
I have the short version. Okay.
00:21:11.80\00:21:13.37
My wife has an
exhausted version.
00:21:13.40\00:21:15.47
So I'll introduce
short version first.
00:21:15.50\00:21:16.94
Okay.
00:21:16.97\00:21:18.31
So it'd be kind of quick
00:21:18.34\00:21:19.67
and they're still
adding some pieces
00:21:19.71\00:21:21.04
that I'm leaving
out, maybe on purpose.
00:21:21.08\00:21:23.48
So when we were growing up,
of course, I began my study,
00:21:23.51\00:21:28.12
my own personal study as well.
00:21:28.15\00:21:30.15
And then I took a
course and became a naturopath,
00:21:30.19\00:21:33.69
doctor of naturopathy.
00:21:33.72\00:21:35.06
Lot of people ask, you know
the initials after our name.
00:21:35.09\00:21:37.46
Mines is N.D, hers is M.S.
00:21:37.49\00:21:40.10
Someone came up
to say in excess,
00:21:40.13\00:21:42.16
well, what does that stand for?
00:21:42.20\00:21:44.10
N.D is North
Dakota, hers is Mississippi.
00:21:44.13\00:21:47.70
They would say,
00:21:47.74\00:21:49.10
oh, now let them
student just for a little while,
00:21:49.14\00:21:51.97
then I clarify that later on.
00:21:52.01\00:21:53.58
That's why I get
my kicks. All right?
00:21:53.61\00:21:55.04
So now that you know,
but yeah, I got the course,
00:21:55.08\00:21:57.61
doctor of naturopathy,
00:21:57.65\00:21:59.08
it specializes in
lifestyle medicine.
00:21:59.11\00:22:01.52
All right?
00:22:01.55\00:22:02.98
But my main thing coming
up and studying research,
00:22:03.02\00:22:07.76
it's like at the point
00:22:07.79\00:22:09.12
where everything can
be cured by taking herbs.
00:22:09.16\00:22:13.16
I mean, everything just
taking herbs, herbs only.
00:22:13.19\00:22:16.20
And I knew that
I was unbalanced.
00:22:16.23\00:22:19.23
And I need somebody
00:22:19.27\00:22:20.60
who knew
something about nutrition.
00:22:20.64\00:22:23.47
So I asked my mom, I said,
00:22:23.51\00:22:24.84
"Mom, who in this
church, Huntsville Church,
00:22:24.87\00:22:28.11
know something about nutrition?"
00:22:28.14\00:22:29.48
She said, "Oh, there is a lady
00:22:29.51\00:22:30.85
who just
graduated from Alabama A&M.
00:22:30.88\00:22:32.61
She has her
master's degree in nutrition.
00:22:32.65\00:22:34.65
Her name is Paula,
missed her last name."
00:22:34.68\00:22:37.09
I said, "Oh, maybe
you can check her out
00:22:37.12\00:22:38.75
and call her see
if you know she can,
00:22:38.79\00:22:41.09
you know team up with
you to do some classes."
00:22:41.12\00:22:43.06
Wow.
00:22:43.09\00:22:44.43
So I call her I said honey.
00:22:44.46\00:22:46.06
Well I didn't
say honey at first,
00:22:46.09\00:22:47.43
but the honey was
coming but not the first call.
00:22:47.46\00:22:51.77
That was a
priceless expression, right?
00:22:51.80\00:22:54.07
Yeah, I didn't
say honey at first,
00:22:54.10\00:22:55.60
but a few calls
later became honey,
00:22:55.64\00:22:57.87
you know, whenever
that kind of slipped out.
00:22:57.91\00:22:59.77
But I said,
00:22:59.81\00:23:01.14
"I want to start a
medical missionary workshop
00:23:01.18\00:23:04.45
on the campus of
Oakwood College."
00:23:04.48\00:23:06.38
Oh, wow. All right?
00:23:06.41\00:23:08.32
The new girls don't
wait all at the time.
00:23:08.35\00:23:11.39
And so this early 90s, I guess.
00:23:11.42\00:23:13.96
And I'll do the herbal part.
00:23:13.99\00:23:16.66
Why don't you do
the nutrition part?
00:23:16.69\00:23:19.09
Now this is
gonna be once a month,
00:23:19.13\00:23:21.76
two hours from 12 to 2.
00:23:21.80\00:23:24.53
And your
response was what, Honey?
00:23:24.57\00:23:27.80
I don't come cheap.
00:23:27.84\00:23:30.54
And I said that because...
That was a laughing moment.
00:23:30.57\00:23:32.77
But that is what she just said.
00:23:32.81\00:23:34.74
I said that because, remember,
now my background is nutrition.
00:23:34.78\00:23:38.38
And I have not
dealt in herbal medicine.
00:23:38.41\00:23:40.98
So when I thought
about herbal medicine,
00:23:41.02\00:23:43.02
and plus the fact that
00:23:43.05\00:23:44.39
Curtis played
around a lot, okay?
00:23:44.42\00:23:46.49
Not that much.
00:23:46.52\00:23:47.86
So when he said to me,
00:23:47.89\00:23:49.72
"I want you to team up with me."
00:23:49.76\00:23:51.29
I'm like,
00:23:51.33\00:23:52.66
"I'm not really sure
where this is going to go."
00:23:52.69\00:23:54.03
So I figured if I
said I don't come cheap,
00:23:54.06\00:23:55.63
he back away,
00:23:55.66\00:23:57.00
because I didn't
know how nutrition
00:23:57.03\00:23:58.37
and herbal medicine would match.
00:23:58.40\00:23:59.73
You mean you teased. All right.
00:23:59.77\00:24:01.10
Yeah, you know.
00:24:01.14\00:24:02.47
Yeah, really?
00:24:02.50\00:24:03.84
And so he said,
00:24:03.87\00:24:05.21
I'll do the talking and
you do the nutrition part.
00:24:05.24\00:24:07.64
And then
whatever I get together,
00:24:07.68\00:24:09.41
because we were then
asking for donations.
00:24:09.44\00:24:11.25
Whatever I get,
I'll share with you.
00:24:11.28\00:24:12.71
Well, I figured I
wasn't getting out of this.
00:24:12.75\00:24:14.52
I have her half, I get
half. I wasn't gonna get out.
00:24:14.55\00:24:16.38
I figured I might as well
just go ahead and do it with him
00:24:16.42\00:24:18.32
and just let it go.
00:24:18.35\00:24:19.69
And at the program
itself, we did the presentation.
00:24:19.72\00:24:22.82
At the end he came over to me
00:24:22.86\00:24:25.23
and my girlfriends were with me
00:24:25.26\00:24:26.59
in as audience, okay?
00:24:26.63\00:24:27.96
He walks over to me, he
has his hand out like this.
00:24:28.00\00:24:31.47
And he has his $6 and
some cent in his hand.
00:24:31.50\00:24:35.14
And she says...
00:24:35.17\00:24:36.57
He said, "This is your portion."
00:24:36.60\00:24:38.04
No, that was the total.
00:24:38.07\00:24:39.57
You can have.
00:24:39.61\00:24:40.94
But her portion is $3.20.
00:24:40.98\00:24:42.61
That's her half. Okay.
00:24:42.64\00:24:44.38
I held to my word.
00:24:44.41\00:24:46.01
I don't know why
they're laughing.
00:24:46.05\00:24:48.38
Trying to contain
myself but I can't help it.
00:24:48.42\00:24:51.22
We've got
another 26 more minutes.
00:24:51.25\00:24:52.89
He said that.
00:24:52.92\00:24:54.99
I knew I was stuck.
00:24:55.02\00:24:56.36
And I just, I took
the $3 and some cents
00:24:56.39\00:24:58.53
and I felt so bad.
00:24:58.56\00:24:59.89
Oh, yes, you took it.
00:24:59.93\00:25:01.26
That I acted that way
because I kind of figured
00:25:01.30\00:25:02.76
God might be trying to
move me into retirement.
00:25:02.80\00:25:06.50
So I did take the money,
00:25:06.53\00:25:07.87
and I went to
subway and I bought a sub,
00:25:07.90\00:25:09.90
a foot long sub plant-based.
00:25:09.94\00:25:11.44
Yes.
00:25:11.47\00:25:12.81
I went back to his
office and I split it with him.
00:25:12.84\00:25:16.81
And that was our first date.
00:25:16.85\00:25:18.41
No, that was not our first date.
00:25:18.45\00:25:19.78
No, it was.
00:25:19.81\00:25:21.15
No, we ate the
sandwich together.
00:25:21.18\00:25:22.52
I'm going to ask
Jill this question.
00:25:22.55\00:25:24.55
Won't you ask Greg?
No, I'm gonna ask Jill.
00:25:24.59\00:25:26.45
Now, Jill, with $3.30 be a date?
00:25:26.49\00:25:29.82
No.
00:25:29.86\00:25:31.19
See if I could high five you,
00:25:31.23\00:25:33.03
I would high five you right now.
00:25:33.06\00:25:35.30
Well, I didn't say
it was expensive date.
00:25:35.33\00:25:37.23
I mean, it went up to
like a large order fries.
00:25:37.27\00:25:39.50
I mean, I got
more expensive but.
00:25:39.53\00:25:41.87
I'm just gonna say
this, the first day,
00:25:41.90\00:25:43.37
I know this isn't about us.
00:25:43.41\00:25:44.74
But the first day
that Greg and I went on,
00:25:44.77\00:25:46.71
we sat on the floor
because there was no seat,
00:25:46.74\00:25:49.58
so we eat and sat on the floor.
00:25:49.61\00:25:50.95
At the restaurant
we sat on the floor.
00:25:50.98\00:25:52.31
Really?
00:25:52.35\00:25:53.68
A great memory
to our first date.
00:25:53.72\00:25:55.05
So that was our first date.
00:25:55.08\00:25:56.89
And Greg paid for
the food? He paid.
00:25:56.92\00:25:58.35
I did. Was it more than $3.30?
00:25:58.39\00:26:00.46
It was. See there?
00:26:00.49\00:26:02.02
Yeah. But, so
this is actually...
00:26:02.06\00:26:03.86
Can we cut this portion
out, you know, this portion out?
00:26:03.89\00:26:08.46
So this is the beginning then.
00:26:08.50\00:26:10.03
So you guys
actually started together
00:26:10.07\00:26:11.47
really doing
health ministry together.
00:26:11.50\00:26:13.70
At Oakwood College. Wow.
00:26:13.74\00:26:15.54
Their wait hall back
in the early 90s together.
00:26:15.57\00:26:18.31
We did that for at
least six or seven months.
00:26:18.34\00:26:20.51
Yeah. Every month.
00:26:20.54\00:26:21.88
Every month?
00:26:21.91\00:26:23.24
And you split the
offering every month?
00:26:23.28\00:26:24.71
I split it. And she came in.
00:26:24.75\00:26:26.48
But the dates
became more expensive
00:26:26.51\00:26:28.72
as we began to start.
00:26:28.75\00:26:30.52
But it was basically
00:26:30.55\00:26:31.99
a platonic
relationship at first.
00:26:32.02\00:26:35.96
And then she walked by
and something just hit me.
00:26:35.99\00:26:40.60
And it's like the Bible says,
00:26:40.63\00:26:42.90
"Lord, give her for
me, she pleases me well."
00:26:42.93\00:26:47.34
And it shift to more of as
my grandfather used to say,
00:26:47.37\00:26:51.21
"I started courtin'."
00:26:51.24\00:26:52.57
That means courting.
00:26:52.61\00:26:53.98
Yeah, courting, yeah.
00:26:54.01\00:26:55.71
But involved in
that, but really,
00:26:55.74\00:26:58.65
and I think we've been together
00:26:58.68\00:27:00.35
for at least
now almost 30 years.
00:27:00.38\00:27:03.79
So I know what she's
gonna say, I know I'm gonna say,
00:27:03.82\00:27:06.19
she could finish my
sentence, I can finish her
00:27:06.22\00:27:08.02
because we've been
doing this for so long
00:27:08.06\00:27:10.89
as a ministry together.
00:27:10.93\00:27:12.46
And so after that, you
end up teaching at Oakwood.
00:27:12.49\00:27:15.83
I was teaching
at Oakwood students
00:27:15.86\00:27:17.93
and was on that for a while.
00:27:17.97\00:27:19.33
Nutrition? Nutrition.
00:27:19.37\00:27:20.84
And then the Lord said we were,
00:27:20.87\00:27:23.20
I was actually
teaching in a classroom.
00:27:23.24\00:27:25.37
And then I would
jump out those clothes
00:27:25.41\00:27:26.74
and put on heels and a suit
00:27:26.78\00:27:28.11
and then go
teach in a community.
00:27:28.14\00:27:29.58
And it just got to be too much
00:27:29.61\00:27:30.95
trying to teach on a
day and then at nighttime,
00:27:30.98\00:27:32.68
the teaching classes
and cooking and all that.
00:27:32.71\00:27:35.18
And one day, I
just talked to the Lord,
00:27:35.22\00:27:36.55
I said, "This is
not working well.
00:27:36.58\00:27:39.12
I mean, I'm
really stressed out."
00:27:39.15\00:27:40.49
And I gotta remember
00:27:40.52\00:27:41.86
where I just
taught the students.
00:27:41.89\00:27:43.22
And now I'm actually out
in the community teaching.
00:27:43.26\00:27:44.59
And the Lord just said to me,
00:27:44.63\00:27:46.56
"Who has the
greater need, Paula?"
00:27:46.59\00:27:48.70
I said,
00:27:48.73\00:27:50.30
"Well, I like the
students. I like teaching them."
00:27:50.33\00:27:51.97
He said, "But who
has the greater need?"
00:27:52.00\00:27:54.14
And I said, "The
community" Father,"
00:27:54.17\00:27:55.54
He said, "Yeah, "
00:27:55.57\00:27:56.91
I said, "Because they
got the major diseases,
00:27:56.94\00:27:58.41
and they really need help."
00:27:58.44\00:28:00.74
And He said, "Then go
and do what you need to do."
00:28:00.78\00:28:02.68
And that's when I walked away
from Oakwood as a professor.
00:28:02.71\00:28:05.55
And then at that time
00:28:05.58\00:28:06.92
also Curtis and I
were doing classes,
00:28:06.95\00:28:08.65
people calling us
from the community,
00:28:08.68\00:28:10.52
we're going to
schools and communities
00:28:10.55\00:28:12.59
and doing classes.
00:28:12.62\00:28:14.26
And it just became a thing
00:28:14.29\00:28:15.66
where we liked the idea
00:28:15.69\00:28:17.09
that we could
always present foods,
00:28:17.13\00:28:20.50
which is always open door.
00:28:20.53\00:28:21.86
People smell food,
00:28:21.90\00:28:23.23
they'll come to
anything when it comes to food.
00:28:23.26\00:28:24.60
Absolutely.
00:28:24.63\00:28:25.97
And then we always
were able to actually
00:28:26.00\00:28:27.34
throw the spiritual part in.
00:28:27.37\00:28:28.70
And even when the community said
00:28:28.74\00:28:30.07
some of the organization said
00:28:30.11\00:28:31.44
you cannot pray
and talk about God.
00:28:31.47\00:28:33.51
And I would say, "Okay."
00:28:33.54\00:28:35.31
So then when we would
cook the food and everything,
00:28:35.34\00:28:37.28
I would just be cooking it.
00:28:37.31\00:28:38.65
And I would say,
but isn't God good?
00:28:38.68\00:28:40.05
And then I would
just go back to cooking.
00:28:40.08\00:28:42.15
You're putting a
spiritual aspect in.
00:28:42.18\00:28:44.29
Yeah. Yeah.
00:28:44.32\00:28:45.65
Praise the Lord.
00:28:45.69\00:28:47.02
Let me let me put it this way.
00:28:47.06\00:28:48.49
We just put it blunt.
00:28:48.52\00:28:50.96
For those health
leaders out there
00:28:50.99\00:28:52.49
who are listening.
00:28:52.53\00:28:53.90
We just focus on improving a
person's health and lifestyle
00:28:53.93\00:28:59.40
without looking for any avenues
of their spiritual enhancement,
00:28:59.43\00:29:03.94
then all we're doing
00:29:03.97\00:29:05.34
is simply preparing
healthy people for hell.
00:29:05.37\00:29:10.25
Oh.
00:29:10.28\00:29:11.61
Now that's deep.
00:29:11.65\00:29:12.98
We shouldn't stop there,
00:29:13.01\00:29:15.45
because although we're
just simply doing health,
00:29:15.48\00:29:18.95
education,
demonstrations, cooking classes,
00:29:18.99\00:29:22.42
but looking for no opportunities
00:29:22.46\00:29:23.86
for the spiritual component,
00:29:23.89\00:29:25.73
then what good is it?
00:29:25.76\00:29:27.16
So it's the
evangelism with the health?
00:29:27.20\00:29:28.80
Right.
00:29:28.83\00:29:30.17
Otherwise it's
just health information,
00:29:30.20\00:29:32.60
it's not evangelistic.
00:29:32.63\00:29:35.97
Here's the main thing.
00:29:36.00\00:29:38.14
In our church,
Seventh-day Adventist Church,
00:29:38.17\00:29:41.01
the body is represented by
the gospel of Jesus Christ.
00:29:41.04\00:29:45.41
That's the body, right?
00:29:45.45\00:29:47.72
The health
ministry is the right arm.
00:29:47.75\00:29:50.39
Sure is. I believe that.
00:29:50.42\00:29:52.02
There's no other ministry
00:29:52.05\00:29:54.32
that has been given
the name of a body part,
00:29:54.36\00:29:57.69
but health ministry.
00:29:57.73\00:30:00.76
Oh, wow.
00:30:00.80\00:30:02.13
Health ministry is the only
00:30:02.16\00:30:03.50
anyone that has a
name of a body part,.
00:30:03.53\00:30:04.87
Yeah, the right arm.
00:30:04.90\00:30:06.23
So a lot of times we
try to encourage churches
00:30:06.27\00:30:07.60
as South Central
Conference Health Directors,
00:30:07.64\00:30:10.24
we want to help that arm
firmly attach to the body.
00:30:10.27\00:30:16.44
No rotator cuff, no
dislocated shoulder,
00:30:16.48\00:30:20.98
it should be firmly attached
to the gospel of Jesus Christ,
00:30:21.02\00:30:25.35
the right arm.
00:30:25.39\00:30:26.72
So if you take Michael Jordan's
right arm away from him,
00:30:26.76\00:30:31.23
he can still be effective,
00:30:31.26\00:30:33.73
but he cannot
score as many points,
00:30:33.76\00:30:36.20
dribble as effectively
or grab as many rebounds.
00:30:36.23\00:30:39.67
So his game would
be very reduced level.
00:30:39.70\00:30:44.84
So if church doesn't have a
very vibrant health ministry,
00:30:44.87\00:30:48.91
they can still be effective,
00:30:48.94\00:30:50.65
but never reach their potential.
00:30:50.68\00:30:53.01
So that's why the
evangelism comes in,
00:30:53.05\00:30:56.12
not just the
health of the people.
00:30:56.15\00:30:57.75
We do classes on
diabetes, heart, blood pressure,
00:30:57.79\00:31:01.16
cholesterol, etc.
00:31:01.19\00:31:02.76
but without the component
of ministry of evangelistic
00:31:02.79\00:31:06.09
Christ part of that,
00:31:06.13\00:31:07.76
then is fall short.
00:31:07.80\00:31:10.97
So your marriage
started in ministry really?
00:31:11.00\00:31:13.30
Our marriage
started in the ministry.
00:31:13.34\00:31:14.97
And then it grew
00:31:15.00\00:31:16.54
to this incredible
ministry of health seminars
00:31:16.57\00:31:19.21
and working for the
South Central Conference,
00:31:19.24\00:31:22.28
you're
co-directors of health ministry
00:31:22.31\00:31:25.01
there you've been 12 years now?
00:31:25.05\00:31:26.61
Twelve years. Yeah, 12 years.
00:31:26.65\00:31:28.22
This is, South
Central Conference,
00:31:28.25\00:31:30.65
they're about 50 conferences
in the North American Division.
00:31:30.69\00:31:32.62
All right?
00:31:32.65\00:31:33.99
South Central is
just one of those.
00:31:34.02\00:31:35.36
Yes.
00:31:35.39\00:31:36.73
And let me just
say this up front here.
00:31:36.76\00:31:39.59
Alabama, South Central,
00:31:43.13\00:31:45.13
but particularly
00:31:45.17\00:31:46.50
Alabama lies in the
heart of the cancer belt
00:31:46.53\00:31:51.64
and so therefore,
00:31:51.67\00:31:53.71
there's more deaths of cancer
00:31:53.74\00:31:55.44
than any other area of
the country, in that area,
00:31:55.48\00:31:59.55
that region,
Alabama, Mississippi,
00:31:59.58\00:32:01.08
Tennessee, etc. Right?
00:32:01.12\00:32:02.45
That's number one.
00:32:02.48\00:32:03.99
Number two. Diet
related you think?
00:32:04.02\00:32:05.45
Diet related.
00:32:05.49\00:32:06.82
Number two,
00:32:06.86\00:32:08.19
Alabama is in the
heart of the obesity belt.
00:32:08.22\00:32:11.23
Okay. All right?
00:32:11.26\00:32:12.69
And so we have one of
the highest rates of obesity
00:32:12.73\00:32:15.73
in the nation.
00:32:15.76\00:32:17.20
Number three,
00:32:17.23\00:32:18.57
Alabama lies in the
heart of the diabetes belt.
00:32:18.60\00:32:22.30
It has the second highest rate
of diabetes in the nation 14.6.
00:32:22.34\00:32:28.01
And fourthly,
00:32:28.04\00:32:29.38
Alabama lies in the
heart of the stroke belt.
00:32:29.41\00:32:34.22
Alabama has the second highest
rate of stroke from death
00:32:34.25\00:32:38.12
to any other
place in the nation.
00:32:38.15\00:32:39.92
So with all that said,
00:32:39.95\00:32:42.66
this organization called
America's Health Rankings,
00:32:42.69\00:32:46.19
they do a rankings of
states and their health.
00:32:46.23\00:32:48.73
And for 30 years,
00:32:48.76\00:32:50.10
a lot of policymakers
are relying with them
00:32:50.13\00:32:52.30
as far as the
status of their health
00:32:52.33\00:32:54.90
in each of the
states of United States.
00:32:54.94\00:32:57.01
They have declared
00:32:57.04\00:32:58.51
this America's
Health Rankings as
00:32:58.54\00:33:02.04
Alabama
00:33:02.08\00:33:03.51
is the most unhealthiest
state in the country
00:33:03.55\00:33:08.72
where we live.
00:33:08.75\00:33:10.09
So if you have one is the
best, 50 is the worst, it's 50.
00:33:10.12\00:33:12.55
Yeah, yeah. We're
the most unhealthiest.
00:33:12.59\00:33:15.42
All right?
00:33:15.46\00:33:16.79
And so, and South
Central takes in that territory.
00:33:16.83\00:33:21.46
So there's a wealth
of needed information,
00:33:21.50\00:33:25.17
particularly in
South Central in the south,
00:33:25.20\00:33:27.80
and particularly
more specifically,
00:33:27.84\00:33:30.64
in the state of Alabama.
00:33:30.67\00:33:34.21
So that's where,
00:33:34.24\00:33:35.58
and that component of health
00:33:35.61\00:33:38.08
opens up the door
for evangelism as well.
00:33:38.11\00:33:41.82
Amen.
00:33:41.85\00:33:43.32
You're thinking about the
other face to the ministry.
00:33:43.35\00:33:45.12
Oh, me too.
00:33:45.15\00:33:46.72
I think we kind of think
what each other reminiscent.
00:33:46.76\00:33:48.09
We do.
00:33:48.12\00:33:49.46
Yeah, you're talking
about knowing what each other
00:33:49.49\00:33:50.83
are gonna say?
00:33:50.86\00:33:52.19
So this is exciting,
00:33:52.23\00:33:53.56
because we
talked about an update
00:33:53.60\00:33:54.93
to the Ministry of
Paula and Curtis Eakins,
00:33:54.96\00:33:56.30
I tell you what?
00:33:56.33\00:33:57.67
This is a good
transition to that right now,
00:33:57.70\00:33:59.03
if you guys don't mind
00:33:59.07\00:34:00.40
'cause talking
about the state of Alabama
00:34:00.44\00:34:01.80
and the health issues.
00:34:01.84\00:34:03.27
God has opened
an incredible door.
00:34:03.30\00:34:05.91
We were on the phone with him,
00:34:05.94\00:34:07.28
oh, what a month
or two ago or so.
00:34:07.31\00:34:09.14
And this is recent up-to-date
stuff that's happening
00:34:09.18\00:34:11.91
and God is doing
marvelous things.
00:34:11.95\00:34:14.12
So tell us what God is doing
00:34:14.15\00:34:15.48
because this is
a miracle right now
00:34:15.52\00:34:17.19
in the making right now.
00:34:17.22\00:34:18.55
Okay, so let me
just set this up.
00:34:18.59\00:34:20.26
Let me, I think we have a quote.
00:34:20.29\00:34:22.99
Let's have the first
cookbook up on screen
00:34:23.02\00:34:25.19
because it kind of
seals the deal here,
00:34:25.23\00:34:26.80
fulfilling the need.
00:34:26.83\00:34:28.33
This is a book
Evangelism, page 525.
00:34:28.36\00:34:30.73
I just want to
kind of massage this
00:34:30.77\00:34:32.57
just for a little while.
00:34:32.60\00:34:33.94
The very first word is critical.
00:34:33.97\00:34:37.31
"Thousands."
00:34:37.34\00:34:38.97
I want to emphasize some words.
00:34:39.01\00:34:40.94
"Thousands
00:34:40.98\00:34:42.61
would gladly receive instruction
00:34:42.64\00:34:48.28
concerning instruction,
00:34:48.32\00:34:50.92
teaching
00:34:50.95\00:34:52.72
demonstration
00:34:52.75\00:34:54.82
classes concerning,"
00:34:54.86\00:34:56.19
what?
00:34:56.22\00:34:57.56
"Natural methods
of treating the sick
00:34:57.59\00:35:01.50
instead of poisonous drugs."
00:35:01.53\00:35:06.03
Thousands, thousands,
00:35:06.07\00:35:09.77
the rate of drugs has escalated,
00:35:09.80\00:35:12.67
trajectory is
increasing at an increasing rate
00:35:12.71\00:35:15.64
with the bell for side effects,
00:35:15.68\00:35:18.21
not just the side effects,
00:35:18.25\00:35:19.58
but some of the
most awesome commercials
00:35:19.61\00:35:21.05
we get a chuckle
00:35:21.08\00:35:22.42
when our drug
commercial comes on television.
00:35:22.45\00:35:24.59
And again, no side
effects? Yeah, really.
00:35:24.62\00:35:26.39
I mean, that's like
80% of the drug commercial,
00:35:26.42\00:35:28.49
like, you know,
00:35:28.52\00:35:29.86
people just smiling,
happy, but you know, so,
00:35:29.89\00:35:31.96
but 1000 will be glad.
00:35:31.99\00:35:33.33
We get calls all the time.
00:35:33.36\00:35:34.96
I have blood pressure
or diabetes or cancer,
00:35:35.00\00:35:38.73
is anything natural I can do
00:35:38.77\00:35:40.87
because I do not
want to go on Metformin.
00:35:40.90\00:35:43.71
I do not wanna
take statin drugs.
00:35:43.74\00:35:45.74
I do not want to take steroids.
00:35:45.77\00:35:47.84
Do you have anything natural?
00:35:47.88\00:35:49.84
Thousands.
00:35:49.88\00:35:51.81
Thousands.
00:35:51.85\00:35:53.18
And where we are,
00:35:53.21\00:35:54.55
this is not
something we brag on.
00:35:54.58\00:35:55.92
But we live
00:35:55.95\00:35:57.29
in the most unhealthiest state
in the United States, Alabama.
00:35:57.32\00:36:02.06
So with that,
00:36:02.09\00:36:03.43
we move more
into health ministry
00:36:03.46\00:36:05.49
into the hotels,
00:36:05.53\00:36:08.33
Marriott, Embassy Suites.
00:36:08.36\00:36:10.77
We take the health
messages out of the church
00:36:10.80\00:36:14.04
into the community.
00:36:14.07\00:36:15.97
Excellent.
00:36:16.00\00:36:17.34
I think we have picture on that.
00:36:17.37\00:36:18.71
You may want to talk on
that too with the next graphic.
00:36:18.74\00:36:20.28
Let's go with
one picture we did.
00:36:20.31\00:36:21.64
Sure. Let's do it.
00:36:21.68\00:36:23.01
This picture here.
00:36:23.04\00:36:24.38
This is the
healthy heart conference
00:36:24.41\00:36:26.38
we did in Huntsville, Alabama.
00:36:26.41\00:36:28.68
And we've done several of
these throughout the state,
00:36:28.72\00:36:32.19
Birmingham.
00:36:32.22\00:36:33.56
Lots of people there.
00:36:33.59\00:36:34.92
There are over
100, close to 150 there.
00:36:34.96\00:36:37.69
They came from
over two hours away.
00:36:37.73\00:36:40.10
And this is a
three hour conference,
00:36:40.13\00:36:43.16
PowerPoint.
00:36:43.20\00:36:44.53
We have handouts or
worksheet and everything.
00:36:44.57\00:36:47.17
And we have the nurses,
00:36:47.20\00:36:48.54
they're taking
blood pressure as well.
00:36:48.57\00:36:50.71
And so we've done this.
00:36:50.74\00:36:52.44
When we move the health message
00:36:52.47\00:36:55.21
out of the churches
00:36:55.24\00:36:57.11
into the
community are increased,
00:36:57.15\00:37:00.22
other community
increases a minimum of 30%.
00:37:00.25\00:37:04.75
That's a minimum 30%.
00:37:04.79\00:37:06.49
A minimum of 30%
00:37:06.52\00:37:08.29
when it's moved in the community
00:37:08.32\00:37:09.92
where the people are, right?
00:37:09.96\00:37:12.59
This is less stressful.
00:37:12.63\00:37:13.96
If they don't
want to go to a church,
00:37:14.00\00:37:15.33
but they would go to community.
00:37:15.36\00:37:16.70
What happens to
is that fact that
00:37:16.73\00:37:18.20
we had the flyers
00:37:18.23\00:37:19.57
and everything's
out there ahead of time,
00:37:19.60\00:37:21.04
the church becomes the host.
00:37:21.07\00:37:23.00
So we're coming
in as the speakers.
00:37:23.04\00:37:24.87
So that means when we leave,
00:37:24.91\00:37:26.24
the host church still
gets to talk to the people.
00:37:26.27\00:37:28.84
That's evangelism. We
have the Bible workers.
00:37:28.88\00:37:30.45
You're talking evangelism.
00:37:30.48\00:37:31.81
Bible workers are on board.
00:37:31.85\00:37:33.55
We have a Bible study,
while they're actually with us,
00:37:33.58\00:37:36.18
which is the health
message one of our tracts.
00:37:36.22\00:37:38.22
They get to do the Bible study,
00:37:38.25\00:37:39.72
and they have to bring
the tract to the church
00:37:39.75\00:37:43.09
for the second
part of the program.
00:37:43.12\00:37:45.16
The Amazing
Facts tract on health.
00:37:45.19\00:37:49.20
So they get it Saturday
00:37:49.23\00:37:51.13
and then come to
church, part two.
00:37:51.17\00:37:52.93
Sunday. Sunday, we fill it out.
00:37:52.97\00:37:55.07
So now we take them
through and walk them through
00:37:55.10\00:37:57.01
a Bible study on day two.
00:37:57.04\00:37:59.87
As in a church
takes those tracts
00:37:59.91\00:38:01.91
and then go with
the other Bible studies
00:38:01.94\00:38:04.08
and now you have
00:38:04.11\00:38:05.45
a whole series of Amazing Facts,
00:38:05.48\00:38:06.98
all 14 lessons.
00:38:07.02\00:38:08.72
It was started with the
message of health first.
00:38:08.75\00:38:11.09
So what happens is that
00:38:11.12\00:38:12.45
they know they're
going to get a gift.
00:38:12.49\00:38:13.82
They're going to get a gift
00:38:13.86\00:38:15.19
if they finished
the study, right?
00:38:15.22\00:38:16.56
So guess what the gift is?
00:38:16.59\00:38:17.93
3ABN pins.
00:38:17.96\00:38:19.29
Really? Thank you.
00:38:19.33\00:38:20.66
Great. You guys
are also ambassadors.
00:38:20.70\00:38:23.26
You would think
00:38:23.30\00:38:24.63
those pins are
like gold nuggets.
00:38:24.67\00:38:26.53
I didn't get my pin.
00:38:26.57\00:38:28.30
You got two, I didn't get mine.
00:38:28.34\00:38:29.67
I mean, it's like gold nuggets.
00:38:29.70\00:38:31.37
We need to give you some
more before you leave here.
00:38:31.41\00:38:33.07
I was just thinking.
00:38:33.11\00:38:34.81
Hey, load us up. Okay.
00:38:34.84\00:38:37.05
So...
00:38:37.08\00:38:38.41
Thanks for being ambassadors,
00:38:38.45\00:38:39.78
so you guys have
been for all the years.
00:38:39.81\00:38:41.15
Thank you. So we've done that.
00:38:41.18\00:38:42.52
Marbury ham, Montgomery,
Mobile, Selma, Atlanta,
00:38:42.55\00:38:46.09
throughout Mississippi,
Tennessee, Nashville,
00:38:46.12\00:38:50.13
the healthy heart conference,
defeating diabetes conference,
00:38:50.16\00:38:54.83
controlling cancer conference,
00:38:54.86\00:38:56.33
those three and then we
kind of rotate those out
00:38:56.36\00:38:58.73
throughout the south as well.
00:38:58.77\00:39:00.40
But it just is
much more fulfilling.
00:39:00.44\00:39:04.44
And let me just say this,
00:39:04.47\00:39:06.14
is much more fulfilling
than having it inside a church.
00:39:06.17\00:39:12.21
And one person
00:39:12.25\00:39:14.65
who may not be a member
of that church may attend
00:39:14.68\00:39:17.05
or maybe all church members,
00:39:17.09\00:39:19.59
and nobody in the
community is inside a church
00:39:19.62\00:39:23.19
taking advantage of that.
00:39:23.22\00:39:24.73
But once it's
moving to Marriott,
00:39:24.76\00:39:27.76
Embassy Suites,
00:39:27.80\00:39:29.36
you have the
community coming in.
00:39:29.40\00:39:31.90
That's when we get excited.
00:39:31.93\00:39:33.90
That's when we get excited.
00:39:33.94\00:39:35.27
Yes, yes.
00:39:35.30\00:39:36.64
So what's God doing then?
00:39:36.67\00:39:38.81
So now we have a clip,
00:39:38.84\00:39:40.38
I think of that
healthy heart conference
00:39:40.41\00:39:42.18
within Huntsville.
00:39:42.21\00:39:43.55
So I think if you can
roll that clip at this time.
00:39:43.58\00:39:45.21
Let's see what
the people are saying
00:39:45.25\00:39:46.58
about the healthy heart
conference in Huntsville
00:39:46.61\00:39:48.55
just a couple years ago.
00:39:48.58\00:39:49.92
All right. Let's go
to that roll right now.
00:39:49.95\00:39:51.72
Paula and her husband Curtis
00:39:51.75\00:39:54.86
put on with about health
00:39:54.89\00:39:56.22
because I learned
something new every single time.
00:39:56.26\00:39:59.79
My biggest takeaway this
time was about red grapes,
00:39:59.83\00:40:03.50
about how they helped to
heal the heart and everything.
00:40:03.53\00:40:07.50
I just was amazed by that.
00:40:07.54\00:40:09.10
Learning about strokes,
hearts, how to prevent them,
00:40:09.14\00:40:12.37
eating more healthy food,
eating non processed food.
00:40:12.41\00:40:15.71
If it has a label, don't eat it.
00:40:15.74\00:40:18.71
Eat the stuff that's
healthy, that stuff you go for.
00:40:18.75\00:40:21.35
And I love their conference,
00:40:21.38\00:40:23.05
you can come more than one time,
00:40:23.08\00:40:24.75
more than two times,
00:40:24.79\00:40:26.12
and you're still
gonna leave with information
00:40:26.15\00:40:27.49
you never even knew you knew.
00:40:27.52\00:40:28.86
They tell you nothing is free.
00:40:28.89\00:40:30.69
Boy, you missed it
00:40:30.73\00:40:32.06
if you did not
come to this conference.
00:40:32.09\00:40:33.53
It was awesome.
00:40:33.56\00:40:34.90
So much good and
free information.
00:40:34.93\00:40:37.37
To God be the glory.
00:40:37.40\00:40:38.77
We need more of this,
00:40:38.80\00:40:40.30
but it should
not always be free.
00:40:40.34\00:40:42.10
So I heard things that I know
00:40:42.14\00:40:43.67
that I'm going
to use immediately.
00:40:43.71\00:40:46.51
The ginger,
00:40:46.54\00:40:48.04
the hawthorn, I
never had heard of that.
00:40:48.08\00:40:50.05
Just natural ways
00:40:50.08\00:40:51.41
to get your blood pressure down.
00:40:51.45\00:40:53.58
Eating the right things.
00:40:53.62\00:40:55.12
I probably knew that
part. I just keep ignoring it.
00:40:55.15\00:40:57.72
But I feel like it
kind of shook me up enough
00:40:57.75\00:41:00.26
to where I'm like,
00:41:00.29\00:41:01.62
I got to do something different.
00:41:01.66\00:41:03.19
So I just encourage you,
00:41:03.22\00:41:04.83
everybody, it
was so well attended.
00:41:04.86\00:41:06.90
So everybody,
00:41:06.93\00:41:08.46
certainly make sure
you get this information.
00:41:08.50\00:41:10.23
It is literally life changing.
00:41:10.27\00:41:14.04
Wow.
00:41:14.07\00:41:15.40
Great testimonies.
I'll tell you what?
00:41:15.44\00:41:16.84
I love the health message
00:41:16.87\00:41:18.34
and evangelism
opportunities that it provides.
00:41:18.37\00:41:20.84
I know that's
just a taste, right?
00:41:20.88\00:41:22.21
Yeah, that's just a taste.
00:41:22.24\00:41:23.58
You wanna say
that one of the persons
00:41:23.61\00:41:25.35
that was actually interviewed
00:41:25.38\00:41:26.75
actually became a
Seventh-day Adventist.
00:41:26.78\00:41:29.28
She was the
first baptized member
00:41:29.32\00:41:31.09
in our ministry
00:41:31.12\00:41:32.45
that God showed
us in our lifetime.
00:41:32.49\00:41:34.06
Yeah, yeah. Praise God.
00:41:34.09\00:41:35.42
Isn't that
encouraging? Oh, yeah.
00:41:35.46\00:41:36.89
Biggest Loser
campaign we did at our church.
00:41:36.93\00:41:39.49
She went through it
and then got baptized.
00:41:39.53\00:41:41.06
Amen. Yes, yes.
00:41:41.10\00:41:43.13
So tell us about the
Abundant Living Center?
00:41:43.16\00:41:45.50
Yeah, so the
Abundant Living Center,
00:41:45.53\00:41:46.87
this is something
00:41:46.90\00:41:48.24
that God has
placed on our hearts,
00:41:48.27\00:41:49.60
my wife and I for 15 years.
00:41:49.64\00:41:53.84
Oh, wow!
00:41:53.88\00:41:55.21
We've been looking,
00:41:55.24\00:41:56.58
we started 2005 on
and off not consistent,
00:41:56.61\00:41:59.31
but on and off.
00:41:59.35\00:42:00.68
And we want a place
00:42:00.72\00:42:02.05
where people
instead of we going there
00:42:02.08\00:42:03.69
people come to us where we are.
00:42:03.72\00:42:05.55
Now this is not a place
where people get treated.
00:42:05.59\00:42:08.29
This is a place
where people get educated.
00:42:08.32\00:42:11.39
Okay. Instructions.
00:42:11.43\00:42:12.76
There's a difference, isn't it?
00:42:12.79\00:42:14.13
Demonstration, hands-on,
we teach them how to fish.
00:42:14.16\00:42:19.03
How to put the bait on a
hook, how to throw it out,
00:42:19.07\00:42:22.30
how to reel it in,
00:42:22.34\00:42:23.67
how to clean it
and how to eat it.
00:42:23.71\00:42:25.17
So when they go back...
00:42:25.21\00:42:26.54
A vegetarian fish. There you go.
00:42:26.57\00:42:27.91
Okay, he's paying
attention. Yes, he is.
00:42:27.94\00:42:29.31
So it's more instruction.
00:42:29.34\00:42:30.98
And so we've been
looking here and there,
00:42:31.01\00:42:32.78
we now have a Christian
Adventist on real turf.
00:42:32.81\00:42:35.68
And we found
something that is our future.
00:42:35.72\00:42:40.29
Amen.
00:42:40.32\00:42:41.66
Abundant Living Center
00:42:41.69\00:42:44.33
in a state that needs it
more than any other state,
00:42:44.36\00:42:49.73
not bragging which is Alabama.
00:42:49.76\00:42:51.40
All right?
00:42:51.43\00:42:52.77
So I'm not
complaining, just explaining,
00:42:52.80\00:42:55.70
we need this more
than any other place.
00:42:55.74\00:42:57.54
And so, I want to just
look at the first picture
00:42:57.57\00:43:00.54
because the first
picture may be surprising.
00:43:00.58\00:43:03.85
What I'm looking at?
00:43:03.88\00:43:05.21
Well, let's look
at the first picture,
00:43:05.25\00:43:06.58
first of all,
00:43:06.61\00:43:07.95
and let me
explain this right now.
00:43:07.98\00:43:09.32
So therefore, now
this is simply the driveway
00:43:09.35\00:43:12.35
leading up to our
future Abundant Living Center.
00:43:12.39\00:43:17.46
It's beautiful.
Look at the trees.
00:43:17.49\00:43:18.83
So this is away from
city influences all together.
00:43:18.86\00:43:23.57
And what's
interesting about that is,
00:43:23.60\00:43:26.33
the Abundant
Living future center
00:43:26.37\00:43:28.47
is in 804th Preserve.
00:43:28.50\00:43:34.88
Wow.
00:43:34.91\00:43:36.24
Inside the city yet
without the city influences.
00:43:36.28\00:43:39.85
800 acres?
00:43:39.88\00:43:41.22
Yes.
00:43:41.25\00:43:42.65
And it sits on the
edge of that forest.
00:43:42.68\00:43:45.29
Yeah, this property does.
00:43:45.32\00:43:46.65
Right, so you drive up, elevated
00:43:46.69\00:43:48.76
and that's where
00:43:48.79\00:43:50.13
the Abundant
Living Center future,
00:43:50.16\00:43:52.63
we didn't have it yet
but as far as that's concern.
00:43:52.66\00:43:55.26
And so let's go
to the next place
00:43:55.30\00:43:57.13
and this is the home
right there at the center.
00:43:57.17\00:43:59.17
You can see from a distance.
00:43:59.20\00:44:00.54
Yeah, it is nestled in a forest.
00:44:00.57\00:44:03.71
And I mean it's
just so conducive
00:44:03.74\00:44:05.97
to what we want to do
00:44:06.01\00:44:07.38
and it's away from
all city influences
00:44:07.41\00:44:09.64
but yet and still
00:44:09.68\00:44:11.01
inside the city of
Huntsville our home base
00:44:11.05\00:44:13.65
where we have been working
for over 30 years as well.
00:44:13.68\00:44:16.35
All right? Oh, yeah.
00:44:16.38\00:44:17.72
So now the next picture,
my wife when she saw this,
00:44:17.75\00:44:21.62
she started
foaming at the mouth,
00:44:21.66\00:44:23.09
started drooling.
00:44:23.12\00:44:24.63
So the next picture is
00:44:24.66\00:44:26.43
the Abundant Living
kitchen inside our ministry,
00:44:26.46\00:44:29.13
so let's go
there and talk about.
00:44:29.16\00:44:30.70
So when I saw this kitchen,
00:44:30.73\00:44:32.33
I was like, okay, God, you know,
00:44:32.37\00:44:33.87
you just now did
yourself on this one for real,
00:44:33.90\00:44:36.57
because I've always
wanted not only teach classes,
00:44:36.60\00:44:39.01
but also have hands-on.
00:44:39.04\00:44:40.38
That's important.
00:44:40.41\00:44:41.74
And in this
kitchen everything is there
00:44:41.78\00:44:43.11
between stoves and ovens.
00:44:43.14\00:44:45.05
Everything is
needed is actually there.
00:44:45.08\00:44:47.12
So they can come
in and not only learn
00:44:47.15\00:44:48.98
about how to eat right,
00:44:49.02\00:44:50.35
but they can also
work on the things with me.
00:44:50.39\00:44:52.65
Yes, yes.
00:44:52.69\00:44:54.02
So we have the conference there,
00:44:54.06\00:44:55.39
the kitchen,
demonstration, instruction,
00:44:55.42\00:44:58.16
right there in a
Abundant Living home,
00:44:58.19\00:45:01.03
they can come and educate.
00:45:01.06\00:45:02.40
This would be like a half day
00:45:02.43\00:45:03.87
from 9 to 12
00:45:03.90\00:45:05.23
and then maybe have a
lunch, that kind of thing.
00:45:05.27\00:45:06.80
So any class as far as
healthy heart conference,
00:45:06.84\00:45:11.67
defeating diabetes conference,
controlling cancer conference
00:45:11.71\00:45:15.01
and also the
winning way weight loss,
00:45:15.04\00:45:16.88
right, those four,
00:45:16.91\00:45:18.25
we kind of
rotate those out alike.
00:45:18.28\00:45:19.71
So now with that,
00:45:19.75\00:45:22.12
the next picture
00:45:22.15\00:45:23.92
on the same
property is 14 acres.
00:45:23.95\00:45:26.42
The Abundant Living pavilion.
00:45:26.45\00:45:29.16
This is over 700 square foot.
00:45:29.19\00:45:33.16
So people
outside you can distant
00:45:33.19\00:45:36.20
weather permitting there forth.
00:45:36.23\00:45:37.57
Oh, yeah.
00:45:37.60\00:45:38.93
Now this is also has
a full fledge kitchen.
00:45:38.97\00:45:41.44
I was gonna ask, it looks like
there's a kitchen in there too.
00:45:41.47\00:45:43.30
Yeah, full fledge, so
therefore we're gonna do.
00:45:43.34\00:45:45.11
So now we're teaching outdoors.
00:45:45.14\00:45:46.47
Outdoors, all right?
00:45:46.51\00:45:47.84
There's an indoor
kitchen, and an outdoor kitchen?
00:45:47.88\00:45:49.58
In and out kitchen.
Indoor and outdoor. Yeah.
00:45:49.61\00:45:51.11
Indoor and outdoor, all right.
00:45:51.15\00:45:52.61
So on the same
property, all right?
00:45:52.65\00:45:54.55
Let's go to the
next picture, all right.
00:45:54.58\00:45:56.48
And so now this is the back.
00:45:56.52\00:45:58.89
Now you notice here,
it is surrounded by trees,
00:45:58.92\00:46:03.16
cedar trees is
carved out on a mountain,
00:46:03.19\00:46:08.86
looking over everything.
00:46:08.90\00:46:10.57
And so therefore,
00:46:10.60\00:46:12.03
that picture
there on the left side
00:46:12.07\00:46:13.60
would be our garden bed,
00:46:13.64\00:46:17.11
raised garden bed
will be class instruction.
00:46:17.14\00:46:19.57
And talk just
little about that, Honey?
00:46:19.61\00:46:21.08
The raised
garden bed is important
00:46:21.11\00:46:22.44
because we don't only
want them to learn how to cook,
00:46:22.48\00:46:24.58
we want them to learn
how to be self sufficient.
00:46:24.61\00:46:26.15
Good.
00:46:26.18\00:46:27.52
So the Lord blessed that
00:46:27.55\00:46:28.88
when I was going
through my cancer experience,
00:46:28.92\00:46:30.25
I had the opportunity
to be a part of a grant
00:46:30.29\00:46:32.29
that was done by
the Cancer Society
00:46:32.32\00:46:34.56
where I was
selected along with others
00:46:34.59\00:46:36.93
to actually learn
how to do a garden,
00:46:36.96\00:46:39.06
a raised bed garden.
00:46:39.09\00:46:40.80
Not only to be raised that
we had three master gardeners
00:46:40.83\00:46:43.53
that came out
every single month,
00:46:43.57\00:46:45.23
and I had to put
the soil in the ground
00:46:45.27\00:46:47.34
and put the
plants in the ground.
00:46:47.37\00:46:48.70
They came in
watching everything.
00:46:48.74\00:46:50.07
And so we actually
did a summer, a winter,
00:46:50.11\00:46:52.37
a fall and a spring garden.
00:46:52.41\00:46:54.88
Learning how to
eat all year round,
00:46:54.91\00:46:56.68
come out your back door,
00:46:56.71\00:46:58.05
get your collard
greens, come out the back door
00:46:58.08\00:46:59.41
get your lettuce and tomatoes,
00:46:59.45\00:47:00.78
everything,
this blows your mind.
00:47:00.82\00:47:02.25
And then it was
because of all the people
00:47:02.28\00:47:04.32
who were involved.
00:47:04.35\00:47:05.69
I was selected from
Alabama public television
00:47:05.72\00:47:07.96
to do a special
program showing about that.
00:47:07.99\00:47:11.03
And you know, it
was plant-based, right?
00:47:11.06\00:47:12.39
So you know why they were there.
00:47:12.43\00:47:13.76
I had to make
some scrambled tofu
00:47:13.80\00:47:15.50
with the stuff out the
garden and gave them a smoothie.
00:47:15.53\00:47:17.53
They were like, "We
didn't expect all that."
00:47:17.57\00:47:18.97
But so, God is awesome.
00:47:19.00\00:47:21.20
So there's a
place on this property,
00:47:21.24\00:47:22.80
how many acres really quick?
00:47:22.84\00:47:24.17
Fourteen acres. Fourteen acres.
00:47:24.21\00:47:25.54
So that was the back
of the home and pavilion.
00:47:25.57\00:47:28.24
So on the left side
would be our raised garden bed,
00:47:28.28\00:47:31.01
and also a greenhouse.
00:47:31.05\00:47:32.95
So that would be more
of the instruction as well
00:47:32.98\00:47:35.38
as far as that's concern.
00:47:35.42\00:47:36.75
So therefore, now if
the crock is too big,
00:47:36.79\00:47:39.15
and it will, we just expect,
00:47:39.19\00:47:41.32
I mean, God's gonna do more than
00:47:41.36\00:47:42.82
we can even ask or think.
00:47:42.86\00:47:44.69
Yes.
00:47:44.73\00:47:46.06
Therefore, on a property... Yes.
00:47:46.09\00:47:49.46
We're expecting something big.
00:47:49.50\00:47:50.83
All right. Let's go
to the next picture.
00:47:50.87\00:47:53.80
We gonna primed up, Honey.
00:47:53.84\00:47:56.14
So now this is a store shed.
00:47:56.17\00:47:59.47
We would simply transform,
give this a major facelift,
00:47:59.51\00:48:04.21
transform this into
our main convention center,
00:48:04.25\00:48:08.48
conference center
right there on property.
00:48:08.52\00:48:11.39
The Abundant
Living Conference Center.
00:48:11.42\00:48:13.49
Yes. Wow.
00:48:13.52\00:48:14.86
Fifteen hundred acre,
I mean, 1500 square foot.
00:48:14.89\00:48:18.49
Yes. Yes. Right.
00:48:18.53\00:48:19.89
So the middle section
would be the conference itself,
00:48:19.93\00:48:22.70
elevated stage.
00:48:22.73\00:48:24.07
Right.
00:48:24.10\00:48:25.43
And cooking stations separate.
00:48:25.47\00:48:26.80
Over the other side
00:48:26.84\00:48:28.17
would be the seminar
lecture demonstration.
00:48:28.20\00:48:30.31
The far building that distance
00:48:30.34\00:48:32.21
would be the
Abundant Living store,
00:48:32.24\00:48:34.78
the one on the closer to you
because there's three sections
00:48:34.81\00:48:37.91
would be the Abundant
Living Fitness Center.
00:48:37.95\00:48:40.62
Yes.
00:48:40.65\00:48:41.98
All on property
total of 1500 acre.
00:48:42.02\00:48:45.62
So God has ample room
for us to grow as well,
00:48:45.65\00:48:49.72
the Abundant Living Center.
00:48:49.76\00:48:51.33
Yes.
00:48:51.36\00:48:52.69
A state that needs it
00:48:52.73\00:48:54.06
more than any
other state, Alabama.
00:48:54.10\00:48:58.47
But it's also open to anybody
00:48:58.50\00:48:59.93
because people
always call us and say,
00:48:59.97\00:49:01.67
"I wish I live
where you guys live.
00:49:01.70\00:49:03.30
I'd love to come and just,
00:49:03.34\00:49:04.67
I'm just going through so much."
00:49:04.71\00:49:06.17
So we won't know on our property
00:49:06.21\00:49:07.64
that we will also have areas
00:49:07.68\00:49:09.01
where they can sit
down and rest a while
00:49:09.04\00:49:11.08
and talk to the Lord and just,
00:49:11.11\00:49:13.21
we want them to
refresh themselves
00:49:13.25\00:49:14.78
and know that
00:49:14.82\00:49:16.15
whatever their battle
they're going through,
00:49:16.18\00:49:17.59
whether it's nutrition,
physical, physical, spiritual,
00:49:17.62\00:49:20.09
mental, social,
00:49:20.12\00:49:21.46
whatever's going on,
when they leave that place,
00:49:21.49\00:49:23.69
they will leave ready to go back
00:49:23.73\00:49:26.29
to whatever
they're doing out there.
00:49:26.33\00:49:28.33
So you're
mentioning a word here future.
00:49:28.36\00:49:31.63
So tell us why
you're saying future?
00:49:31.67\00:49:33.50
Well, because we
don't have it yet,
00:49:33.54\00:49:34.87
that's why we say future.
00:49:34.90\00:49:36.24
We're claiming it.
00:49:36.27\00:49:37.61
God is working, exactly.
00:49:37.64\00:49:38.97
And so what we want to
do we want to ask people
00:49:39.01\00:49:40.41
who are
watching to pray with us.
00:49:40.44\00:49:44.58
God's word, well not God's word,
00:49:44.61\00:49:46.48
But Ellen White mentioned,
00:49:46.51\00:49:47.85
make a statement that
00:49:47.88\00:49:49.25
sometimes
properties are available
00:49:49.28\00:49:51.75
far below the market value.
00:49:51.79\00:49:55.49
Yes, yes.
00:49:55.52\00:49:56.86
We have a prime example
of Loma Linda in California.
00:49:56.89\00:49:59.33
That's right.
00:49:59.36\00:50:00.70
We gonna do the same there,
00:50:00.73\00:50:02.06
pray with the
boss that is concerned
00:50:02.10\00:50:03.43
and those who want to contribute
00:50:03.47\00:50:04.97
a partnership in
this venture as well.
00:50:05.00\00:50:07.00
I think we have a roll
later on about our address
00:50:07.04\00:50:09.37
and how they can
contact us as well.
00:50:09.40\00:50:11.54
And I've just finished
a business plan as well,
00:50:11.57\00:50:13.68
present that as well.
00:50:13.71\00:50:15.04
So therefore, we're
just claiming these,
00:50:15.08\00:50:17.15
we just want to share this.
00:50:17.18\00:50:18.61
And thank you for allowing us
00:50:18.65\00:50:19.98
to share our ministry
with the 3ABN audience.
00:50:20.02\00:50:21.95
This is exciting. Yes.
00:50:21.98\00:50:23.32
We believe in what God is doing
in and through your ministry.
00:50:23.35\00:50:27.16
We are excited about
the Abundant Living Center.
00:50:27.19\00:50:31.46
We are claiming
it by faith with law.
00:50:31.49\00:50:34.66
And we know that
our 3ABN family at home
00:50:34.70\00:50:37.37
that you are movers and shakers,
00:50:37.40\00:50:39.67
and that you believe
in health evangelism,
00:50:39.70\00:50:41.94
that you believe that
00:50:41.97\00:50:43.30
the health message is
the right arm of the gospel.
00:50:43.34\00:50:46.57
And that you have seen
Curtis and Paula for years
00:50:46.61\00:50:49.34
with Abundant
Living know their ministry.
00:50:49.38\00:50:51.85
And just want to
encourage you right now
00:50:51.88\00:50:53.68
that if the Lord
has put on your heart,
00:50:53.72\00:50:55.62
number one to pray for them,
00:50:55.65\00:50:58.05
pray for this ministry,
00:50:58.09\00:51:01.22
and pray for this
incredible opportunity
00:51:01.26\00:51:03.99
that the Lord is opening up.
00:51:04.03\00:51:05.89
Number two, we want to
encourage you to ask God,
00:51:05.93\00:51:09.33
what He wants you to do
00:51:09.36\00:51:10.97
to help financially support
to partner with their ministry.
00:51:11.00\00:51:16.44
What we want to do right
now is go to their address roll.
00:51:16.47\00:51:19.44
This would be the
contact information
00:51:19.47\00:51:21.21
for Curtis and Paula.
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If the Lord puts on your
heart to financially support,
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if you have questions about
the Abundant Living Center,
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and you just
want more information,
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if you want to know more about
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healthy eating, healthy living,
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if you want to stand with them.
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We here at 3ABN
have made that decision
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that we are standing with them
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in this exciting adventure
that God is opening up.
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So let's go to
that address right now.
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For more information
about Health Seminars, Inc,
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please contact
them at (256) 859-1982.
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That's (256) 859-1982.
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Their address is PO Box
2873, Huntsville, Alabama 35804.
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That's PO Box 2873,
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Huntsville, Alabama 35804.
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And finally, you can email
them at Hseminar@BellSouth.net.
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That's Hseminar@BellSouth.net
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