I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Removing pain
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Lord, let my words
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Heal a heart that hurts
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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Hello, and welcome to
another 3ABN Today program.
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I'm Jason Bradley,
and I'm so glad that
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you could join us
as we're going to be
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getting an HHK Ministry Update,
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but before I
introduce our guests today,
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I'd like to read
a scripture to you
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and it comes from
1 Corinthians 10:31,
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and it says, "Therefore,
whether you eat or drink,
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or whatever you do, do
all to the glory of God."
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Today, we will be talking
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with Heidi
Tompkins and Ivan Raj.
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Welcome to the program.
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Thank you. Thank you.
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Yes, you know, I've
seen you guys at ASI.
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I've seen you at GYC.
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I've seen you on 3ABN before,
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but I haven't had the
chance to interview you yet.
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Yeah, it's a pleasure.
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This is gonna be interesting.
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So what's HHK stands
for? Heidi's Health Kitchen.
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Okay, and you're
the co-founder, right?
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A lot of people
say Heidi's Kitchen,
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but we have to remember
the health messages in there,
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it's Heidi's Health Kitchen.
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Yes.
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And you're the
co-founder, correct?
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Yes, Ivan and I
are both founders.
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Nice. Nice.
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And so how did it come about?
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Well, to tell
you the short story.
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We in 2014, Ivan and I
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had both been doing Bible work.
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The conference no longer
had a budget for Bible workers.
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So we were kind
of out on our own.
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And we had a small group
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and our small group was praying
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for how this work
would be supported.
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And we felt impressed
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to start a health food ministry,
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and then we thought, okay, well,
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how is this ministry
going to be supported?
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And we prayed and
God gave us products
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that we could manufacture
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and sell to
support our Bible work.
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When she says products
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she's talking about
recipes for the product,
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to make the product.
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Yes. Got you. Got you. Nice.
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We're gonna get a
little bit deeper into that.
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I wanna find out
how your ministry
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or how your business
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has touched the lives of others.
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I know we have
videos, we have pictures...
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Yes!
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All kinds of great
stuff, but before we go to that,
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we're gonna be blessed
in song by Stephanie Dawn,
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and she's going to be
singing "Leave a Well."
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To the valley
you've been through
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Those around you must go too
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Down the rocky path you travel
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They will go
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If to those
learning of your trial
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You'll lend the
secret of your smile
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You will help them
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More than you will ever know
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Leave a well in the valley
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Its dark and lonesome valley
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Others have to
walk that valley too
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What a blessing when they find
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The well of joy
you've left behind
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Leave a well in the valley
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You go through
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Blessed is the man
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Who has learned to understand
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And becomes a hand for God
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To those in need
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Yes and all the tears he shed
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With God's help become instead
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A precious balm
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That will heel
the hearts that bleed
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Leave a well in the valley
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Its dark and lonesome valley
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Others have to walk
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That valley too
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What a blessing when they find
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The well of joy
you've left behind
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Leave a well in the valley
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You go through
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Yes leave a well in the valley
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You go through
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Amen.
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Thank you for
that beautiful song,
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Stephanie Dawn.
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If you're just now joining us,
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I'm here with Ivan Raj
and Heidi Tompkins of HHK
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which we discussed was
Heidi's Health Kitchen.
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Now I want to know, is
Heidi's Health Kitchen,
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is it a business
or is it a ministry?
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Well, it's a hybrid. Okay.
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It's a business and ministry...
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Unpack that. Yes.
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So our business
is Christ-centered.
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Obviously, our ministry
is also Christ-centered.
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And through our
business, we minister to people.
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Okay, nice. And you...
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Our business also
supports our ministry.
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Got you.
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Which is how we're able
to continue to do Bible work.
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Nice. Nice.
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We actually have a promo video
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that will tell
us a little bit more
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about Heidi's Health Kitchen.
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Let's go to that now.
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Heidi's Health Kitchen
has been a for-profit member
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of ASI since 2015,
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and it has been
a great blessing.
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We are the manufacturers
of CARUBIES Carob Truffles
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and CARUBELLA a
Decadent Carob Spread.
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We also operate
a Pop-Up Restaurant
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following the principles
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given in the Spirit of
Prophecy for restaurant work.
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The recipes are delicious.
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Congratulations.
Thank you very much.
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You're also
something. Thank you very much.
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We also organize
public health evangelism
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and biblical evangelistic events
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to interest souls in
God's ways of living,
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and His everlasting gospel.
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The Atlantic Union Chapter
of ASI has partnered with us
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for the last two years
in our annual program called
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The Plant-Based Summit.
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Designed as a
health evangelism program,
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introducing the health message
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to the world
primarily non-Adventists
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who are interested in health.
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Trying to thank
Heidi Tompkins and Ivan
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for putting this
together in our crew,
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for putting this together
a very nice, very nice name.
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I'm excited to share with
you my presentation on diabetes
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and beta cell regeneration.
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Let me share my screen...
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With you
building our immune system
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through nutrition.
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We can look at things
like garlic and ginger
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and different foods,
but what about herbs?
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The ways of their
practice is just amazing.
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I like to listen to
ideas by different perspective
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in the sense of
look at the data at work
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what happens inside the cell?
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I sort of have had
sort of had visions,
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what we're really looking
at here is nature at work.
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Absolutely.
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This is nature itself.
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And I find a whole idea,
you know, it's so beautiful.
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It's so beautiful
and so interconnected.
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And so precise that
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I would just like to notch it up
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one and say it smacks of design.
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Yeah, I was, I was almost
going to say the same thing.
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You know that this
was ultimately started off
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with your arm as far
as what you were taking,
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and now you transform
to so forth and so on.
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And I see this whole operation
that goes on inside the cells
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and the
communication between cells,
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the communication between organs
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are being so
instantaneous almost.
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Something is managing.
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There's some
management going on here,
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who's in control,
integrating and making
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and turning this
whole system into a center.
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Really, really heavy-duty,
it's really, really amazing.
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Ivan is gonna be
putting in the ingredients
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for the cashew mayo.
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Welcome again to
The Plant-Based Summit
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2020 virtual experience.
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And I'm so happy to
have you here today.
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Thank you for joining us
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for the 2020 Plant-Based Summit.
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We hope that you are blessed.
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We hope that you
will look forward
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to The
Plant-Based Summit in 2021.
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And we look forward
to seeing you there.
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ASI's Atlantic Union
Chapter also partnered with us
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in our first
public evangelism program
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called Blue Star,
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an astronomy conference
designed to promote creationism
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and the Creator God amongst
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non-Adventist
homeschooling families,
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right here in New York.
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You're watching Heavens Declare.
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I'm Jim Burr.
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We want to
highlight one of the stories
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from our online Bible work.
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I met Jasleen and her
family on the internet.
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They run a
70-member church n Punjab.
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After 10 months of consistent
Bible studies over the phone,
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they have
accepted the Sabbath truth,
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they along with
their congregation
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will begin worshiping
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on the Sabbath
once lockdown is over.
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Wow, what a
powerful promo video.
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I love that.
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I wanna find out
about your background now
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'cause after
watching that and seeing
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how all of this
is coming together
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this hybrid between
business and ministry,
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what's your background?
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Let's start with you, Heidi.
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My background has
always been sales and business.
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And, of course, I love to cook.
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I love to cook
since I was young.
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And probably by
the age of eight,
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I was doing a lot of the cooking
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for my family.
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So I've always loved to cook,
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but cooking has not been
my full-time profession sales
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and I've owned
several businesses.
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Okay. Okay. And,
Ivan, what about you?
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Myself, from
business development,
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marketing, sales
that's been my background.
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So you guys have a
similar background, then?
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Yes.
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And it's such a pleasure to
be able to use like the skills
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that God gave
us that, of course,
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we used for the
world for quite a while,
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but it's such a
privilege to be working for God
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and using them for Him
instead of for the world.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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So what kind of
products do you offer?
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So our signature product line
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includes our
CARUBIES Carob Truffles,
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our Decadent Carob Truffles,
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we make them in
eight different flavors,
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and you can buy them by
the box or an assortments.
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We also have our CARUBELLA,
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which is a
Decadent Carob Spread.
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This is like a vegan Nutella.
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So it's very smooth and creamy.
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You can frost cookies,
cakes, and brownies with it,
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excellent on toast
or just with a spoon.
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And we also sell a
roasted fig beverage
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called FIGSPRESSO.
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Oh, wow.
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And then in addition to that
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we have some
other small products,
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you know, things
that we buy in bulk that
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we just package
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and sell at a really great price
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because we can, and
then we also offer catering
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and we have our
Pop-Up Restaurant,
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and then we have
our conferences and...
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So in other
words you offer a lot.
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Yes, we do.
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Now these CARUBIES
are really like rubies.
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These things are... Yes.
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These are good. Amen.
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What would you say would
be your favorite product?
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I know that's a hard question.
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I can answer that question.
This is my favorite product.
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Okay. Yeah.
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I would almost
say the CARUBELLA too.
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Nice. Nice.
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So you're the organizers
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of the Annual
Plant-Based Summit,
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touch on that,
what takes place there?
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Sure.
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So I noticed
that a lot of people
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are attributing veganism
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or plant-based diet to Buddhism.
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Now Buddha was not a vegan
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or he was not in
a plant-based diet.
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And I want to show to the world
that we have a health message,
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which is tied up in the Bible.
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So I prayed, and
God gave me the wisdom
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to organize the summit,
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combining history,
Bible, and science.
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So that was the thought
process behind this program...
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Combining history,
Bible, and science.
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Correct. Okay.
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And then obviously
God impressed upon me
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as to how to organize
a conference like that
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because I've never
done anything as before.
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And also the speaker lineup
was done in such a way that
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there were scientists,
there were Adventist speakers,
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you have seen couple
of them, and also people
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who can touch
on history as well.
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And present to non-Adventists,
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the health
message with gospel in it.
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Yeah.
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So in other words not
just preaching to the choir.
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Yeah.
00:16:05.63\00:16:06.96
But reaching out
and it's evangelism.
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Yes.
00:16:09.23\00:16:10.57
So there was a gentleman
that was in one of the videos
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or one of the
scenes in the promo video.
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Yes.
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Tell us the
significance behind that?
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Sure.
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Dr. Campbell, he is the
author of the book China Study.
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And also he is the,
one of the main brains
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behind the
documentary Forks Over Knives.
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Okay.
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And he's also
called as the godfather
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of the modern
day plant-based diet.
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Okay.
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And he had a
mentor, Clive McKay.
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And Dr. Campbell mentioned to us
00:16:45.57\00:16:48.04
and also in the summit
video, he's also mentioned that
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his mentor was influenced
by Ellen G. White's writings.
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He actually
lived in her day. Wow!
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He was actually alive
while Ellen G. White was alive.
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Wow.
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So his mentor was
influenced by Sister White's,
00:17:02.88\00:17:05.89
yeah, Ellen White's writings.
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Yes. Wow.
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And so how have you seen
like with The Plant-Based Summit
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with the
conversation that took place?
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Yep.
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What was the takeaway there
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because you had told me
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about a powerful situation
with that particularly...
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Yes.
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So he comes from
evolutionism perspective,
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although he has Christian
roots for 60, 65 years,
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he's been purely
based on sciences, messages,
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and lectures and books
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has been purely
based on science,
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but during his
research, as you mentioned,
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in the promo video,
we have noticed that
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he found out that somebody
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is in control of
how the cells function,
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how the cells work.
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So I wanted to connect him
or have him have a dialogue
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with the creationist,
Adventist creationist,
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and see how that works out.
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And Dr. Campbell agreed.
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And our friend, Dr.
White, he also agreed.
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And so they both had a dialogue.
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And it was a fantastic dialogue.
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And Dr. Campbell enjoyed
it to the point that he said,
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"I want to have
more conversations."
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Wow, praise the Lord.
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He also said that this
was the most interesting
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and best conversation
that he's had in over 20 years.
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Wow.
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As a nutritional, sorry,
as a biological evolutionist,
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he has solely focused on
nutrition and the science.
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And he has avoided, you know,
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bringing spiritual ideas
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or components into
any of his writing,
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or any of his
speaking or anything else.
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And so it's just such, you know,
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for those who decide to
buy a ticket to our online
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Plant-Based Summit,
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you'll get to see
the whole exchange.
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And for those
who saw many people
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were just so blown away
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because it was just
like, you know, a real,
00:19:07.81\00:19:11.08
real conversation
where he was like, "Wow."
00:19:11.11\00:19:14.38
It was almost like
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I finally found
someone I can connect with.
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Yeah, and it was a
huge witnessing opportunity.
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Yes. Yes. That's incredible.
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I also saw the thing
with the Middle East.
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Yes. Okay.
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So that's a powerful testimony.
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I say it because
you will see that
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God led a group of people
00:19:31.23\00:19:34.90
to contact a Seventh-day
Adventist Church Facebook page,
00:19:34.94\00:19:39.97
and ask them where they worship.
00:19:40.01\00:19:43.18
So they contacted and
the message came to me
00:19:43.21\00:19:46.01
because I was the Facebook admin
00:19:46.05\00:19:48.35
at that time for
that Adventist Church.
00:19:48.38\00:19:52.72
So I told them,
00:19:52.75\00:19:54.22
we gathered in so
and so place for worship.
00:19:54.26\00:19:57.86
And I asked them
where you guys gather?
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And they mentioned the place
00:20:00.66\00:20:02.00
which I've never heard
before, heard of before.
00:20:02.03\00:20:04.90
And so I looked up,
00:20:04.93\00:20:06.57
and I found it was
in the Middle East.
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So I picked up the phone
00:20:09.37\00:20:10.71
and I call them
through social media.
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And they couldn't understand me
00:20:13.21\00:20:15.28
because they
didn't speak English.
00:20:15.31\00:20:17.45
And obviously, I
didn't understand them.
00:20:17.48\00:20:20.35
They spoke in Farsi.
00:20:20.38\00:20:23.55
And so that being
said, long story short,
00:20:23.59\00:20:28.96
I started
communicating with them
00:20:28.99\00:20:30.43
through Google translator.
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And they had many questions.
00:20:32.46\00:20:34.13
And now the
reason why they contacted
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the Adventist Church
00:20:36.33\00:20:37.67
was because
during their research,
00:20:37.70\00:20:40.54
reading the Bible, again,
these are Middle Easterners,
00:20:40.57\00:20:43.47
they found that Sabbath is
on Saturday, not on Sunday.
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And they wanted to gather
00:20:48.48\00:20:51.11
and worship with a
Saturday keeping church,
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not a Sunday keeping church.
00:20:55.22\00:20:58.49
So they Googled and
they didn't find any place
00:20:58.52\00:21:04.26
around the region in their area.
00:21:04.29\00:21:07.10
So they said, "Okay,
00:21:07.13\00:21:08.90
let's join Jewish congregation."
00:21:08.93\00:21:11.63
So they search for
the Jewish congregation.
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And the organization
00:21:13.97\00:21:15.80
they contacted was a Jewish
00:21:15.84\00:21:18.01
Seventh-day
Adventist congregation.
00:21:18.04\00:21:19.61
Beth Shalom. Oh, wow.
00:21:19.64\00:21:22.04
Yeah, they meet in
Long Island. Oh, okay.
00:21:22.08\00:21:24.41
Okay. Yeah.
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So that's how we got connected.
00:21:25.81\00:21:27.68
So I spent many, many
hours like translating
00:21:27.72\00:21:29.88
what they write to me,
and then type in English,
00:21:29.92\00:21:34.69
and then translate it
back into their language
00:21:34.72\00:21:36.76
and send them the information,
answer their questions.
00:21:36.79\00:21:39.83
And then I reached
out to our MENA friends,
00:21:39.86\00:21:42.73
Middle East and North
Africa friend's leadership.
00:21:42.76\00:21:45.63
And I told them this
whole story and send them
00:21:45.67\00:21:48.20
all the information they need.
00:21:48.24\00:21:49.70
And they, because I
want to make sure that
00:21:49.74\00:21:51.41
ISIS is not after me already.
00:21:51.44\00:21:53.17
Yes. Yes. Yes.
00:21:53.21\00:21:54.54
So they went and they checked,
00:21:54.58\00:21:57.85
and they found that these guys
00:21:57.88\00:21:59.21
are sincerely seeking the truth.
00:21:59.25\00:22:00.85
Yes.
00:22:00.88\00:22:02.22
So long story short,
00:22:02.25\00:22:03.89
we have two
baptisms from the group.
00:22:03.92\00:22:06.92
And they are
Seventh-day Adventists.
00:22:06.96\00:22:09.32
Wow. Praise the Lord.
00:22:09.36\00:22:11.06
Now that's
global Bible work. Yes.
00:22:11.09\00:22:13.73
Do you do local like US
based Bible work as well?
00:22:13.76\00:22:18.73
Yes. So tell us
about that? Absolutely.
00:22:18.77\00:22:21.27
So Ivan and I have
Bible students in New York,
00:22:21.30\00:22:25.71
in Canada, and in
several other states.
00:22:25.74\00:22:28.74
And some of the
people are people
00:22:28.78\00:22:32.21
that we have come
to through friends
00:22:32.25\00:22:34.58
and other contacts
and contacts through
00:22:34.62\00:22:37.05
ministry in our business,
00:22:37.09\00:22:38.42
and others are
people that we come across
00:22:38.45\00:22:41.06
on the internet on social media.
00:22:41.09\00:22:42.79
Wow. Wow. Yeah.
00:22:42.82\00:22:44.39
So it's basically just,
00:22:44.43\00:22:45.76
it's like digital
evangelism, online evangelism.
00:22:45.79\00:22:47.13
We're just fishing, you know,
God leads us and, you know,
00:22:47.16\00:22:49.73
we asked God to bring us
to the souls that are ripe,
00:22:49.76\00:22:53.20
right 'cause nobody
wants to waste time, right?
00:22:53.23\00:22:56.00
And so we just ask God,
lead us however You choose,
00:22:56.04\00:23:00.28
lead us to those who
are really, you know,
00:23:00.31\00:23:02.98
honest in heart and searching
00:23:03.01\00:23:04.88
and seeking for the truth
that we can be His instruments.
00:23:04.91\00:23:07.12
Yeah.
00:23:07.15\00:23:08.48
Now there was a fitness trainer?
00:23:08.52\00:23:09.85
Yes.
00:23:09.88\00:23:11.22
So God led me to
a fitness trainer
00:23:11.25\00:23:14.26
through the internet
who lives in New York.
00:23:14.29\00:23:16.69
And she comes
00:23:16.73\00:23:18.66
from a non-Christian background,
00:23:18.69\00:23:21.76
and then she got baptized
00:23:21.80\00:23:23.47
into a church about 10 years ago
00:23:23.50\00:23:25.27
because they said,
00:23:25.30\00:23:26.63
"Who all want to
come, get baptized?
00:23:26.67\00:23:28.00
Come."
00:23:28.04\00:23:29.37
So she just got
into the baptismal pool.
00:23:29.40\00:23:32.74
However, she was looking
00:23:32.77\00:23:34.28
for somebody to help
understand the Bible.
00:23:34.31\00:23:38.08
So when I connected with her,
which was more than a year ago,
00:23:38.11\00:23:42.05
I introduced her to some videos
from Pastor Doug Batchelor,
00:23:42.08\00:23:47.42
Pastor Ivan
Meyers, and our friends.
00:23:47.46\00:23:51.09
And so she was
blown away by the content,
00:23:51.13\00:23:55.26
the information that helped
her draw closer to Christ.
00:23:55.30\00:23:59.63
In addition to that,
00:23:59.67\00:24:01.00
I have been studying the Bible
with her every week regularly.
00:24:01.04\00:24:04.51
She wanted to know
00:24:04.54\00:24:05.87
what does
salvation by faith mean?
00:24:05.91\00:24:08.68
So we have an
eight-part series on that
00:24:08.71\00:24:11.98
which we offer to
our Bible students.
00:24:12.01\00:24:13.92
So we took her through
00:24:13.95\00:24:15.28
each step of
righteousness by faith.
00:24:15.32\00:24:17.55
And in addition to that
00:24:17.59\00:24:20.42
because we come from
a business background,
00:24:20.46\00:24:22.96
Heidi and I, we also
have been mentoring her
00:24:22.99\00:24:25.86
to change her business
00:24:25.89\00:24:28.43
to a Christ-centered
fitness training.
00:24:28.46\00:24:30.93
Nice.
00:24:30.97\00:24:32.63
So she's gonna
make that transition.
00:24:32.67\00:24:35.67
Transition, and I'm helping
her come up with a new website.
00:24:35.70\00:24:39.34
And she's getting baptized
00:24:39.37\00:24:40.71
on the 17th of this
month into our church.
00:24:40.74\00:24:42.28
Wow.
00:24:42.31\00:24:43.65
Now tell me
about the Indian Hindu
00:24:43.68\00:24:46.88
that lives in Canada?
00:24:46.92\00:24:48.25
Okay. Yes.
00:24:48.28\00:24:49.62
That's a very interesting story.
00:24:49.65\00:24:51.25
Yes.
00:24:51.29\00:24:52.62
So about five years ago,
00:24:52.65\00:24:55.32
I was asked to
contact this gentleman
00:24:55.36\00:24:58.39
who was suicidal
and he lived in India.
00:24:58.43\00:25:01.86
He was into astrology.
He was into numerology.
00:25:01.90\00:25:05.60
And he didn't find answers
00:25:05.63\00:25:07.40
and solutions to
life's questions.
00:25:07.44\00:25:10.74
And he was
introduced to Christians also.
00:25:10.77\00:25:12.91
So he asked them,
00:25:12.94\00:25:14.28
he asked the Christians
many questions about his life,
00:25:14.31\00:25:17.21
about his future.
00:25:17.25\00:25:19.05
And why he's going
through all the sufferings.
00:25:19.08\00:25:21.35
They told him,
"You should get baptized
00:25:21.38\00:25:23.69
into a church in
order to overcome this."
00:25:23.72\00:25:26.39
And he felt that
is not the solution,
00:25:26.42\00:25:29.12
it doesn't make sense.
00:25:29.16\00:25:30.53
So I was asked to talk to him.
00:25:30.56\00:25:33.43
So when I spoke to
him, I spoke to him
00:25:33.46\00:25:36.53
I think for four and
half hours on the phone.
00:25:36.56\00:25:38.90
So I'm in New York,
he's in New Delhi, India.
00:25:38.93\00:25:43.14
And we became good friends.
00:25:43.17\00:25:46.44
However, his prayers
were not getting answered.
00:25:46.47\00:25:51.11
He wanted instant
result, instant answers.
00:25:51.15\00:25:54.85
I had sent him a Bible.
00:25:54.88\00:25:56.85
I actually have a
picture of the Bible
00:25:56.89\00:26:00.89
that I sent him
that he set on fire.
00:26:00.92\00:26:03.59
He took a picture
and he sent it to me.
00:26:03.63\00:26:06.96
Now how do you react to it?
00:26:07.00\00:26:09.03
As a human being you
get angry, frustrated,
00:26:09.06\00:26:13.30
and but I thought
00:26:13.34\00:26:15.30
how would Christ
react to the situation?
00:26:15.34\00:26:19.71
I did not.
00:26:19.74\00:26:21.48
I did not get
angry or upset with him.
00:26:21.51\00:26:24.25
I asked God to
give me the patience.
00:26:24.28\00:26:27.12
And I wanted Christ to
be revealed in my character
00:26:27.15\00:26:31.35
in response to what he did.
00:26:31.39\00:26:32.89
Yes.
00:26:32.92\00:26:35.59
Four five years later,
00:26:35.62\00:26:36.96
while we were
still in interaction,
00:26:36.99\00:26:39.13
on and off, he moved to Canada.
00:26:39.16\00:26:42.86
And then he said,
teach me the Bible.
00:26:42.90\00:26:46.37
Actually, he said,
00:26:46.40\00:26:47.74
"Send me something to
chant from the Bible."
00:26:47.77\00:26:50.81
I said, "We don't do that."
00:26:50.84\00:26:53.68
It's in Hinduism,
not in Christianity.
00:26:53.71\00:26:55.88
We don't do that.
00:26:55.91\00:26:57.25
We have a
relationship with the Creator.
00:26:57.28\00:26:59.18
So we have a
dialogue with the Creator.
00:26:59.21\00:27:01.25
So I sent him texts and videos
00:27:01.28\00:27:03.95
where you can learn how to pray.
00:27:03.99\00:27:05.62
And also, we
started doing Bible studies.
00:27:05.65\00:27:08.49
Then he also got introduced
00:27:08.52\00:27:10.73
to a local
Seventh-day Adventist Church.
00:27:10.76\00:27:14.36
And there's a picture of him
00:27:14.40\00:27:17.40
participating in
a Zoom Bible study.
00:27:17.43\00:27:19.60
This was a picture
00:27:19.63\00:27:20.97
when he was a
Hindu five years ago.
00:27:21.00\00:27:22.87
And now there's another...
00:27:22.90\00:27:25.41
There's a picture
where you will see him
00:27:25.44\00:27:28.18
participating in
a Zoom Bible study
00:27:28.21\00:27:30.11
with our Adventist Church.
00:27:30.15\00:27:33.11
And he told me,
"Even if the heavens fall,
00:27:33.15\00:27:37.62
I will not go back to Hinduism."
00:27:37.65\00:27:41.26
I asked him why.
00:27:41.29\00:27:42.96
He said, "I read
Hindu scriptures,
00:27:42.99\00:27:46.33
there is
promiscuity by the deities.
00:27:46.36\00:27:51.50
So how can they
expect humans to be good?"
00:27:51.53\00:27:55.50
In the Bible, in
the life of Christ,
00:27:55.54\00:27:57.27
by the way, he read
00:27:57.31\00:27:58.64
all the four gospels by himself.
00:27:58.67\00:28:01.04
And he said, "In the Bible,
I noticed the purity of Christ,
00:28:01.08\00:28:06.21
His character."
00:28:06.25\00:28:07.62
And he said, "I feel so bad
00:28:07.65\00:28:09.15
when I read the
crucifixion part of Christ."
00:28:09.18\00:28:11.35
Nothing like that
exists in Hinduism.
00:28:11.39\00:28:14.22
Most importantly,
he said, I have peace.
00:28:14.26\00:28:17.49
I believe that
God is talking to me.
00:28:17.53\00:28:19.73
I believe that God is
with me and guiding me.
00:28:19.76\00:28:22.40
And I believe that this is real.
00:28:22.43\00:28:24.17
So therefore, even
if the heavens fall,
00:28:24.20\00:28:26.40
I will not go back to Hinduism.
00:28:26.43\00:28:28.40
I will be a
Seventh-day Adventist Christian,
00:28:28.44\00:28:31.81
and he's actually going
through baptismal classes now.
00:28:31.84\00:28:34.14
That is huge.
00:28:34.18\00:28:35.68
Praise the Lord.
00:28:35.71\00:28:37.05
Amen. It's a real blessing.
00:28:37.08\00:28:38.75
He participates in our weekly,
00:28:38.78\00:28:40.98
our ministry offers a
Zoom worship every Sabbath.
00:28:41.02\00:28:45.72
And so he participates in that.
00:28:45.75\00:28:47.46
And, you know, we
always ask our guests
00:28:47.49\00:28:49.49
and our Bible students if
they have prayer requests,
00:28:49.52\00:28:52.36
and he prays every day,
00:28:52.39\00:28:54.26
and he's always
praying during the week
00:28:54.30\00:28:56.23
for the requests
that people have shared
00:28:56.26\00:28:57.87
on Sabbath morning.
00:28:57.90\00:28:59.23
He prays for others.
00:28:59.27\00:29:00.60
He prays for
others, he prays for us,
00:29:00.64\00:29:02.30
and we're
always praying for him.
00:29:02.34\00:29:03.67
It's a real
blessing. That's awesome.
00:29:03.71\00:29:05.04
Yeah, so a guy
who burnt the Bible
00:29:05.07\00:29:09.64
is now going to become
00:29:09.68\00:29:11.01
a Seventh-day
Adventist by God's grace.
00:29:11.05\00:29:12.55
Incredible.
00:29:12.58\00:29:13.92
And he ended up
reading the four gospels...
00:29:13.95\00:29:15.78
Four gospels. On his own.
00:29:15.82\00:29:18.52
Now I wanna
transition a little bit
00:29:18.55\00:29:20.86
and we'll come back to this,
00:29:20.89\00:29:22.72
but I wanna find out
what happened during COVID-19.
00:29:22.76\00:29:27.10
Like, how was Heidi's
Health Kitchen impacted
00:29:27.13\00:29:30.77
during the pandemic?
00:29:30.80\00:29:32.73
It was actually
a great blessing.
00:29:32.77\00:29:35.17
I mean, you know,
00:29:35.20\00:29:36.54
we've operated as
a Pop-Up Restaurant
00:29:36.57\00:29:38.07
for the past four years now.
00:29:38.11\00:29:40.48
And so that came to a
pause, our cooking classes...
00:29:40.51\00:29:46.15
We used to give cooking
classes every month in Manhattan
00:29:46.18\00:29:49.22
for the last six or seven years,
00:29:49.25\00:29:51.55
six years now.
00:29:51.59\00:29:52.92
And that came to a
pause, but, you know,
00:29:52.95\00:29:55.19
because people are home
and they're shopping online,
00:29:55.22\00:29:58.66
our business, I mean,
just our orders went from like,
00:29:58.69\00:30:02.40
our regular production
to like Christmas time.
00:30:02.43\00:30:05.70
Wow.
00:30:05.73\00:30:07.07
At that time of
the year, you know,
00:30:07.10\00:30:08.60
usually the spring
is a slow time for us.
00:30:08.64\00:30:11.04
We're really busy
through Valentine's Day
00:30:11.07\00:30:12.84
'cause, of course,
people are looking for chocolate
00:30:12.87\00:30:14.61
and things like that,
and then we have a law.
00:30:14.64\00:30:16.98
And we just, I mean,
00:30:17.01\00:30:18.58
it's really been
unbelievable the volume.
00:30:18.61\00:30:21.55
And we really,
really appreciate it.
00:30:21.58\00:30:23.52
We appreciate our
customers locally,
00:30:23.55\00:30:25.65
who wanna
support local business.
00:30:25.69\00:30:27.62
We appreciate our, you know,
00:30:27.66\00:30:29.72
Adventist community
that wants to support
00:30:29.76\00:30:31.73
Adventist businesses.
00:30:31.76\00:30:33.19
And we really, really appreciate
00:30:33.23\00:30:35.00
our 3ABN family
00:30:35.03\00:30:36.77
that wants to
support their 3ABN family.
00:30:36.80\00:30:39.63
Yes, yes.
00:30:39.67\00:30:41.10
So it's really been
an incredible blessing.
00:30:41.14\00:30:43.00
And, you know,
every single purchase
00:30:43.04\00:30:44.44
of our products
00:30:44.47\00:30:45.81
is what supports our Bible work.
00:30:45.84\00:30:47.44
So really, when people
are buying our products,
00:30:47.48\00:30:50.05
you're really
supporting God's work.
00:30:50.08\00:30:52.08
And we're truly
grateful. Yes, yes.
00:30:52.11\00:30:54.52
So we have some pictures
of our Pop-Up Restaurant...
00:30:54.55\00:30:57.75
What is a Pop-Up
Restaurant? Good question.
00:30:57.79\00:30:59.85
So Pop-Up Restaurant
is a concept where we,
00:30:59.89\00:31:05.26
with our team, go
to a coffee house.
00:31:05.29\00:31:08.86
Okay.
00:31:08.90\00:31:10.23
And we rent the
coffee house when it is shut,
00:31:10.27\00:31:13.10
like Sunday afternoon.
00:31:13.13\00:31:14.90
Family
restaurants work well, too.
00:31:14.94\00:31:16.37
We're looking for a place
that's open during the day
00:31:16.40\00:31:18.27
and they're
closed in the evening.
00:31:18.31\00:31:19.64
Got you. So we can
rent in the evening.
00:31:19.67\00:31:21.51
They close and we open up
as Heidi's Health Kitchen.
00:31:21.54\00:31:23.85
That's Heidi's Health Kitchen.
00:31:23.88\00:31:25.31
And this is a
concept that God gave me
00:31:25.35\00:31:28.18
when I prayed and asked God
00:31:28.22\00:31:29.62
because I'm always
looking for unique ways
00:31:29.65\00:31:32.85
to approach our communities
to reach with the gospel.
00:31:32.89\00:31:38.16
And so I said, Heidi,
00:31:38.19\00:31:40.66
we're gonna do a
Pop-Up Restaurant.
00:31:40.70\00:31:42.63
The times we're living in, I
don't think it's right for us
00:31:42.66\00:31:44.97
to own a restaurant per se.
00:31:45.00\00:31:46.33
Got you.
00:31:46.37\00:31:47.70
So probably we
should do a pop-up
00:31:47.74\00:31:49.30
and she asked what is pop-up?
00:31:49.34\00:31:50.97
So I explained her
based on the research
00:31:51.01\00:31:52.71
I've done because pop-up concept
00:31:52.74\00:31:54.74
started in
London during Olympics.
00:31:54.78\00:31:57.55
Yes.
00:31:57.58\00:31:58.91
So people open up their homes,
00:31:58.95\00:32:00.28
and they setup restaurants
in the kitchen for people
00:32:00.32\00:32:03.15
who came for the
Olympics to buy food
00:32:03.18\00:32:05.49
or dine at their homes.
00:32:05.52\00:32:08.09
So I read about it.
00:32:08.12\00:32:09.92
And I contacted a certain couple
00:32:09.96\00:32:12.13
who were willing to rent
out their coffee shop space
00:32:12.16\00:32:16.53
for us to use as a pop-up.
00:32:16.56\00:32:18.50
How you sell kitchen pop-up.
00:32:18.53\00:32:20.54
However, they were not willing
to rent it to us later on
00:32:20.57\00:32:25.21
when they found out, we
have a Christ-centered...
00:32:25.24\00:32:30.71
Atmosphere. Atmosphere.
00:32:30.75\00:32:32.25
Wow. Yeah.
00:32:32.28\00:32:33.85
And I was very
upset and disappointed
00:32:33.88\00:32:36.02
which I shouldn't
have been at that time
00:32:36.05\00:32:37.92
because we cannot
take things personally
00:32:37.95\00:32:39.35
when it comes to ministry,
00:32:39.39\00:32:41.29
but I was still
growing at the time, right?
00:32:41.32\00:32:42.79
So I prayed and asked God
to show me what went wrong.
00:32:42.82\00:32:47.60
This couple,
they wanted us to come
00:32:47.63\00:32:49.66
and do a pop-up regularly.
00:32:49.70\00:32:52.27
Now they've shut
down our proposal.
00:32:52.30\00:32:55.37
And after five
days, I had a dream.
00:32:55.40\00:32:58.91
Actually, I had a voice
in my sleep, male voice,
00:32:58.94\00:33:02.61
and the male
voice told me, "Ivan,
00:33:02.64\00:33:05.31
go and talk to Jack
Jack's Coffee House owners."
00:33:05.35\00:33:08.98
Which is a coffee
house about two minutes drive
00:33:09.02\00:33:11.65
from Heidi's place.
00:33:11.69\00:33:14.56
And so later on the day, I said,
00:33:14.59\00:33:18.06
"I heard a voice that
told me to go and talk to them
00:33:18.09\00:33:21.40
about the pop-up for
which I've been praying
00:33:21.43\00:33:23.47
for the last five
days asking God to..."
00:33:23.50\00:33:25.90
Where can you
go? "Where can I go?"
00:33:25.93\00:33:27.27
Yes. Where can we go? Yes.
00:33:27.30\00:33:28.97
So we went, I took pictures
and a proposal everything
00:33:29.00\00:33:32.24
and I submitted it to the owners
00:33:32.27\00:33:34.41
of the coffee house.
00:33:34.44\00:33:35.78
And this...
00:33:35.81\00:33:37.15
Oh, we love everything
00:33:37.18\00:33:38.51
that you guys are
showing and the concept,
00:33:38.55\00:33:40.42
but we only have two conditions.
00:33:40.45\00:33:42.58
No liquor allowed.
00:33:42.62\00:33:44.39
No stand up comedy
00:33:44.42\00:33:47.82
because there's a
lot of cuss language
00:33:47.86\00:33:50.06
towards at lunch time.
00:33:50.09\00:33:51.63
I said, "Not a
problem." Yes, yes.
00:33:51.66\00:33:54.23
We will follow that
policy not a problem,
00:33:54.26\00:33:58.37
but then I said,
00:33:58.40\00:33:59.73
"Hey, look, we are Seventh-day
Adventist Christians."
00:33:59.77\00:34:01.30
I want to be very transparent.
"We are Seventh-day Christians.
00:34:01.34\00:34:04.74
We have glow
tracks on every table
00:34:04.77\00:34:07.64
and we play
Christian instrumental music.
00:34:07.68\00:34:10.95
Are you guys okay with that?"
00:34:10.98\00:34:12.35
And they said,
"Oh, we have no issues.
00:34:12.38\00:34:14.88
Make sure you don't
break those two principles."
00:34:14.92\00:34:18.89
Don't have to worry about that.
00:34:18.92\00:34:21.42
So ever since we
started Pop-Up Restaurant
00:34:21.46\00:34:23.73
which is three years
ago, God has led us to connect
00:34:23.76\00:34:28.60
with the
affluent class of people.
00:34:28.63\00:34:31.90
And so basically...
00:34:31.93\00:34:33.27
And they say
00:34:33.30\00:34:34.64
that's the
hardest class to reach.
00:34:34.67\00:34:36.00
Yes. Yes.
00:34:36.04\00:34:37.37
That's awesome.
00:34:37.41\00:34:38.74
People say when
they come to our pop-up,
00:34:38.77\00:34:40.11
when they dine,
00:34:40.14\00:34:41.48
they have a great
experience in terms of ambience,
00:34:41.51\00:34:43.61
in terms of the peaceful
Christian instrumental music,
00:34:43.65\00:34:46.75
and the literature.
00:34:46.78\00:34:48.28
Non-Christian
patrons of ours who dine,
00:34:48.32\00:34:54.29
they always ask us, can
we take the glow tracks?
00:34:54.32\00:34:58.29
Some of them even
ask can we take more?
00:34:58.33\00:35:01.00
Or do you have any others?
00:35:01.03\00:35:02.70
Yes. Yes.
00:35:02.73\00:35:04.13
So they're going out
00:35:04.17\00:35:05.50
and they're
distributing the glow tracks.
00:35:05.53\00:35:07.74
Yes. That's great.
00:35:07.77\00:35:10.01
So, Ivan, you
strike me and, Heidi,
00:35:10.04\00:35:12.74
you guys strike me as two people
00:35:12.77\00:35:14.41
who do a lot of research.
00:35:14.44\00:35:15.98
Yeah. Yes.
00:35:16.01\00:35:17.35
Now, I know that
we saw the gentleman
00:35:17.38\00:35:21.35
that used to be Hindu,
00:35:21.38\00:35:23.79
he used to, he had
the orange and the red.
00:35:23.82\00:35:27.16
Yes.
00:35:27.19\00:35:28.52
What is that significant of
why those particular colors?
00:35:28.56\00:35:34.60
And then we'll
transition into the yoga thing
00:35:34.63\00:35:37.57
'cause I think that
00:35:37.60\00:35:38.93
there are a lot of
people in our church
00:35:38.97\00:35:41.00
that are getting
caught up in yoga
00:35:41.04\00:35:42.40
that have no
idea what's behind it?
00:35:42.44\00:35:45.67
And so maybe you can shed
some light on that as well.
00:35:45.71\00:35:47.61
Absolutely. Absolutely.
00:35:47.64\00:35:51.58
First question
was the orange color.
00:35:51.61\00:35:55.15
So the orange
color represents sun.
00:35:55.18\00:35:58.95
Okay.
00:35:58.99\00:36:00.49
So sun worship is a primary
00:36:00.52\00:36:03.99
form of worship
in Hinduism, Sun God.
00:36:04.03\00:36:08.76
Wow.
00:36:08.80\00:36:10.13
So that is why the cloths
are orange or reddish orange.
00:36:10.17\00:36:14.34
That is a kind of clothes
00:36:14.37\00:36:15.70
that all those Hindu gurus wear.
00:36:15.74\00:36:18.84
In terms of
yoga, as you mentioned,
00:36:18.87\00:36:22.91
a lot of people are deceived
00:36:22.94\00:36:25.28
because Satan is
a master deceiver.
00:36:25.31\00:36:28.72
When Eve was in the garden,
00:36:28.75\00:36:31.62
when we read Genesis 3:6,
00:36:31.65\00:36:35.69
everything that
Eve saw in the tree
00:36:35.72\00:36:38.06
or above the tree was good,
00:36:38.09\00:36:40.63
pleasant to the
eyes, good for food,
00:36:40.66\00:36:42.60
and to make one wise.
00:36:42.63\00:36:44.77
There was nothing bad
about the tree itself.
00:36:44.80\00:36:48.27
And she ate the fruit.
00:36:48.30\00:36:51.71
Now yoga, in the surface,
00:36:51.74\00:36:56.11
everything is good
about it according to media,
00:36:56.14\00:36:58.68
according to publications,
according to yoga gurus,
00:36:58.71\00:37:01.18
even according to practitioners
00:37:01.22\00:37:02.62
who get results
will get healing of yoga.
00:37:02.65\00:37:06.79
However, the question is,
00:37:06.82\00:37:10.89
who is the author and
finisher of your faith?
00:37:10.93\00:37:14.36
If I say, Christ is the
author and finisher of my faith,
00:37:14.40\00:37:18.87
then who was
the founder of yoga?
00:37:18.90\00:37:24.84
Who was the author of yoga?
00:37:24.87\00:37:27.11
Not Jesus Christ.
00:37:27.14\00:37:30.95
A Hindu deity called Shiva.
00:37:30.98\00:37:34.82
Shiva means that which is not.
00:37:34.85\00:37:39.49
So when we go to...
00:37:39.52\00:37:40.99
Let's say, we all
go to Garden of Eden.
00:37:41.02\00:37:44.03
And we ask Eve a question,
"Eve, okay, you got deceived.
00:37:44.06\00:37:49.83
Did you see Satan?"
00:37:49.86\00:37:52.53
What would be Eve's response?
00:37:52.57\00:37:55.24
He was not. He was not there.
00:37:55.27\00:37:59.77
'Cause she would be
talking about the serpent.
00:37:59.81\00:38:02.34
She would talk about serpent
00:38:02.38\00:38:04.31
even though
serpent was possessed.
00:38:04.35\00:38:06.35
Yes, possessed.
00:38:06.38\00:38:08.22
So yoga is rooted in Hinduism.
00:38:08.25\00:38:13.72
It is a Hindu ritual.
00:38:13.76\00:38:18.06
It does bring healing,
00:38:18.09\00:38:20.03
but it has a
lot of side effects,
00:38:20.06\00:38:22.96
which will manifest later on.
00:38:23.00\00:38:24.77
And not every
healing comes from the Lord.
00:38:24.80\00:38:28.37
Not every
healing comes from God.
00:38:28.40\00:38:31.01
Through many of these mediums
Satan can bring a healing
00:38:31.04\00:38:35.51
or bring a, you know,
00:38:35.54\00:38:37.05
it says actually in
the Spirit of Prophecy,
00:38:37.08\00:38:40.18
in last day events says that
Satan will inflict a condition,
00:38:40.22\00:38:46.05
a health
implication or something,
00:38:46.09\00:38:49.02
and then remove his hand
00:38:49.06\00:38:50.93
as if to show there
was a miraculous healing.
00:38:50.96\00:38:53.50
Wow.
00:38:53.53\00:38:54.86
And so we have to understand
00:38:54.90\00:38:59.17
what where is the
power coming from?
00:38:59.20\00:39:01.70
Is it coming from God
or is it coming from Satan?
00:39:01.74\00:39:05.41
So and also stretching
is different from yoga.
00:39:05.44\00:39:09.91
They both are two
different concepts.
00:39:09.94\00:39:12.75
Unpack that because
you have a lot of people
00:39:12.78\00:39:14.55
that will say, "Oh,
well, it's just stretching.
00:39:14.58\00:39:16.89
I'm just, you know,
I'm just stretching."
00:39:16.92\00:39:18.25
Yeah.
00:39:18.29\00:39:19.62
Well, what's the
difference between
00:39:19.65\00:39:21.39
yoga and stretching?
00:39:21.42\00:39:22.76
Sure.
00:39:22.79\00:39:24.13
I'll state few
differences right away.
00:39:24.16\00:39:26.59
First of all, again,
yoga is rooted in Hinduism.
00:39:26.63\00:39:30.83
It is one of the six
schools of Hindu philosophy.
00:39:30.87\00:39:34.34
There are six
schools in Hindu philosophy.
00:39:34.37\00:39:35.70
Okay.
00:39:35.74\00:39:37.07
And it is close to a philosophy
called Samkhya in Hinduism.
00:39:37.11\00:39:40.88
Samkhya means numbers.
00:39:40.91\00:39:42.71
There's also another
meaning to it called knowledge.
00:39:42.74\00:39:46.25
And yoga is the practical
arm of the theory of Samkhya
00:39:46.28\00:39:52.35
which is theory of knowledge.
00:39:52.39\00:39:54.89
So yoga stretching, if
you go to yoga studios,
00:39:54.92\00:39:59.19
you don't see
people wearing flip flops,
00:39:59.23\00:40:02.96
shoes, right?
00:40:03.00\00:40:04.87
People don't wear any footwear
00:40:04.90\00:40:09.04
because it's a
Hindu ritual, first point.
00:40:09.07\00:40:11.47
Wow. That's interesting.
00:40:11.51\00:40:12.87
Second point is people
say I don't do the chanting,
00:40:12.91\00:40:15.54
I just do the stretching.
00:40:15.58\00:40:17.25
So, Jason, my question to you.
00:40:17.28\00:40:20.82
If I do this,
who am I? A Catholic.
00:40:20.85\00:40:23.75
A Catholic. Yeah.
00:40:23.79\00:40:25.12
So if I kneel down, and
I lift my hands like this,
00:40:25.15\00:40:28.22
and do like this, who am I?
00:40:28.26\00:40:29.92
I'm a Muslim. Oh, Muslim.
00:40:29.96\00:40:32.19
Muslim.
00:40:32.23\00:40:33.56
So physical forms of worship
00:40:33.60\00:40:36.23
exist in all the religions
00:40:36.26\00:40:40.27
except Christianity.
00:40:40.30\00:40:43.10
In Christianity,
00:40:43.14\00:40:44.47
the Bible says
God wants our heart.
00:40:44.51\00:40:46.88
He wants to
build a relationship,
00:40:46.91\00:40:48.54
but in other religions,
00:40:48.58\00:40:50.48
you have to
express your worship,
00:40:50.51\00:40:52.75
but the question is
who are you worshiping?
00:40:52.78\00:40:56.08
So yoga, the word
yoga means to yoke,
00:40:56.12\00:41:00.59
to unite, to marry.
00:41:00.62\00:41:02.76
Wow.
00:41:02.79\00:41:04.13
Yoga, it's a Sanskrit term.
00:41:04.16\00:41:05.99
Sanskrit is the ancient,
00:41:06.03\00:41:09.00
the spiritual language in India.
00:41:09.03\00:41:12.23
So who are you uniting with?
00:41:12.27\00:41:14.07
So there are two versions to it.
00:41:14.10\00:41:15.90
Or who are you marrying?
00:41:15.94\00:41:17.37
Who are you marrying?
00:41:17.41\00:41:18.74
And the Bible says that
we're to be married to Christ.
00:41:18.77\00:41:20.94
Yes, yes.
00:41:20.98\00:41:22.68
So initially, yoga
is just stretching,
00:41:22.71\00:41:25.71
but the meaning for
those stretches are deep.
00:41:25.75\00:41:29.52
And it is to help
one actualize as they say
00:41:29.55\00:41:34.69
or self-realize that one is God.
00:41:34.72\00:41:39.19
Also, each different pose
invokes a different Hindu god.
00:41:39.23\00:41:43.06
Wow. Totally
contrary to Scripture.
00:41:43.10\00:41:46.74
Yeah. Yes. And, you know...
00:41:46.77\00:41:48.50
Thou shall have no
other gods before Me.
00:41:48.54\00:41:50.11
Yes. Yes, absolutely.
00:41:50.14\00:41:52.14
I remember seeing a clip
00:41:52.17\00:41:54.64
where there was a
gentleman who is Hindu,
00:41:54.68\00:41:58.75
or and he said that basically,
00:41:58.78\00:42:04.59
if you do the pose,
00:42:04.62\00:42:08.16
then you're Hindu.
00:42:08.19\00:42:09.52
If you're
stretching, then you're Hindu.
00:42:09.56\00:42:10.89
He just said automatically.
I don't remember his name.
00:42:10.93\00:42:12.99
The movement you
bend your body for yoga,
00:42:13.03\00:42:16.00
you're practicing Hinduism.
00:42:16.03\00:42:17.37
You're practicing Hinduism.
00:42:17.40\00:42:18.73
Now for the Christians
who say, "I don't chant,
00:42:18.77\00:42:21.84
I just stretch."
00:42:21.87\00:42:23.81
I want the Christians
to know that they in India,
00:42:23.84\00:42:27.54
not just in
India, even in the US.
00:42:27.58\00:42:30.08
There are many
yoga gurus who say,
00:42:30.11\00:42:34.68
how come you
didn't find anything
00:42:34.72\00:42:36.08
in your own religion?
00:42:36.12\00:42:38.75
Why do you wanna
Christianize what belong to us.
00:42:38.79\00:42:42.02
And they also say, the
British when they ruled India,
00:42:42.06\00:42:44.96
they stole our gold.
00:42:44.99\00:42:47.30
Now they're stealing our
ritual and Christianizing it.
00:42:47.33\00:42:50.87
Wow.
00:42:50.90\00:42:52.23
Wow, it's deep
because, you know,
00:42:52.27\00:42:56.24
Satan does this with a
lot of different things.
00:42:56.27\00:42:59.07
It's not just yoga
and stuff like acupuncture
00:42:59.11\00:43:01.81
and stuff like other things.
00:43:01.84\00:43:03.35
I know my mom used
to practice acupuncture,
00:43:03.38\00:43:05.51
she gave up her whole practice
when she realized that it was,
00:43:05.55\00:43:08.92
you know, not of God.
00:43:08.95\00:43:10.72
Correct. And she
gave up her practice.
00:43:10.75\00:43:13.39
Yeah.
00:43:13.42\00:43:14.76
But, you know, it's important
that people get educated.
00:43:14.79\00:43:18.59
And I know that
you'll go around to churches,
00:43:18.63\00:43:21.13
and you'll share
with them, you know,
00:43:21.16\00:43:23.93
not just health in
terms of, you know,
00:43:23.97\00:43:26.74
what we're
putting in our bodies,
00:43:26.77\00:43:28.10
but what we're doing...
00:43:28.14\00:43:29.47
It's not just
the physical health,
00:43:29.50\00:43:30.84
we're concerned
about our mental,
00:43:30.87\00:43:32.21
emotional, and spiritual health.
00:43:32.24\00:43:34.61
And so we've been already
to 10 or 12 different churches
00:43:34.64\00:43:38.65
where Ivan has specifically
been talking about this topic
00:43:38.68\00:43:42.02
because people
don't have a clue.
00:43:42.05\00:43:44.25
Yeah.
00:43:44.29\00:43:45.62
The reason is, I
won't blame the people
00:43:45.65\00:43:47.56
because Satan is
a master deceiver.
00:43:47.59\00:43:51.26
And to understand
Satan's deception,
00:43:51.29\00:43:55.83
we got to read the Bible.
00:43:55.86\00:43:58.10
Absolutely. Absolutely.
00:43:58.13\00:44:00.07
We can never identify otherwise.
00:44:00.10\00:44:01.44
Without reading the Bible,
00:44:01.47\00:44:02.80
it's impossible to understand
the workings of Satan.
00:44:02.84\00:44:06.81
Yes, everything that God has,
Satan has a counterfeit for it.
00:44:06.84\00:44:09.31
Yes.
00:44:09.34\00:44:10.78
And, you know, we were
talking just the other day.
00:44:10.81\00:44:15.42
And you were sharing
the principle of NEWSTART.
00:44:15.45\00:44:18.45
Yes.
00:44:18.49\00:44:19.82
But then you also
share the counterfeit.
00:44:19.85\00:44:21.36
Yes. What was that?
00:44:21.39\00:44:22.72
So there's something
called as Yoga Sutras,
00:44:22.76\00:44:28.06
which means yoga
principles or yoga precepts.
00:44:28.10\00:44:31.63
So they have four chapters.
00:44:31.67\00:44:33.74
And there are 195
sayings in those chapters.
00:44:33.77\00:44:37.84
Some people say
165, some people say 190,
00:44:37.87\00:44:41.24
but generally people
say 195 is in Hinduism.
00:44:41.28\00:44:44.41
And in the second chapter
is found eight limbs of yoga.
00:44:44.45\00:44:49.62
In the eight limbs of yoga,
the third limb is the posture,
00:44:49.65\00:44:54.36
the stretching.
00:44:54.39\00:44:55.96
Wow, eight limbs of
yoga, eight laws of health.
00:44:55.99\00:44:58.46
Eight laws of health.
00:44:58.49\00:45:00.43
Yes. Right.
00:45:00.46\00:45:01.80
And so I was
sharing this, right?
00:45:01.83\00:45:04.53
So if we again go
to Garden of Eden,
00:45:04.57\00:45:07.80
and we ask Eve,
what were you doing
00:45:07.84\00:45:11.57
when you had an
interaction with the serpent?
00:45:11.61\00:45:14.51
She would say,
"I was gardening."
00:45:14.54\00:45:18.11
But what is
gardening in new start?
00:45:18.15\00:45:20.22
Exercise. Exercise.
00:45:20.25\00:45:21.88
So Eve was exercising
and what did she learned?
00:45:21.92\00:45:26.02
You will be like
gods, you will not die.
00:45:26.05\00:45:28.49
Wow.
00:45:28.52\00:45:29.89
So that same
concept is found in yoga.
00:45:29.92\00:45:32.16
So when you ask people,
00:45:32.19\00:45:33.53
what were you
doing in the yoga studio?
00:45:33.56\00:45:35.16
I was just
stretching. I was exercising.
00:45:35.20\00:45:38.07
But what are they
learning, you will be like gods.
00:45:38.10\00:45:41.34
Wow, wow.
00:45:41.37\00:45:43.24
It's a counterfeit of NEWSTART.
00:45:43.27\00:45:45.41
Yes, yes, it is.
00:45:45.44\00:45:47.84
Transitioning out of the yoga
into the other physical health,
00:45:47.88\00:45:53.55
what does a
cooking class look like?
00:45:53.58\00:45:56.52
So when you go to a
church, like what is it?
00:45:56.55\00:45:57.89
Sure. Sure.
00:45:57.92\00:45:59.25
In our cooking classes,
00:45:59.29\00:46:00.62
we generally demonstrate
three to four different dishes.
00:46:00.66\00:46:04.13
And all the while
00:46:04.16\00:46:05.93
we're sharing
the health benefits
00:46:05.96\00:46:07.63
of the ingredients,
00:46:07.66\00:46:09.23
and how they can
benefit one's health
00:46:09.26\00:46:12.60
or their physical condition.
00:46:12.63\00:46:14.57
And we also one of our elders
00:46:14.60\00:46:17.91
is a doctor of natural medicine.
00:46:17.94\00:46:21.28
And so in between each
one of my demonstrations,
00:46:21.31\00:46:24.35
he'll share and
expand a little bit more
00:46:24.38\00:46:26.58
upon health principles,
and the eight laws of health.
00:46:26.61\00:46:29.95
And so that is really, you know,
00:46:29.98\00:46:32.95
a great opportunity for people
to get some health education
00:46:32.99\00:46:36.73
and learn how to cook as well.
00:46:36.76\00:46:38.43
And in addition to that, we
also want to add stretching,
00:46:38.46\00:46:43.53
non-yoga regular
stretching exercise,
00:46:43.57\00:46:47.10
which will be presented
by a certified fitness coach,
00:46:47.14\00:46:50.77
who is our main Bible student
00:46:50.81\00:46:52.84
that we mentioned about earlier.
00:46:52.87\00:46:54.98
So we wanna incorporate that.
00:46:55.01\00:46:56.34
And what's the
purpose of incorporating that?
00:46:56.38\00:46:58.08
So that people know that
there is actually a method
00:46:58.11\00:47:01.25
which doesn't have
any connection with...
00:47:01.28\00:47:03.22
With yoga. With
yoga or Hinduism.
00:47:03.25\00:47:05.35
Because when people
have seen the presentation
00:47:05.39\00:47:07.59
that Ivan has given
in many of these churches
00:47:07.62\00:47:10.19
that we've gone
to, and, you know,
00:47:10.23\00:47:13.16
they realize what's going on
and what they're involved in.
00:47:13.19\00:47:17.40
The first question they ask
is, so how am I gonna stretch?
00:47:17.43\00:47:20.54
How am I going to
exercise? What do I do?
00:47:20.57\00:47:22.60
Yes, yes.
00:47:22.64\00:47:23.97
We have to,
00:47:24.01\00:47:25.34
we can't just
leave them hanging there.
00:47:25.37\00:47:26.98
We have to provide, you know,
all the resources they need.
00:47:27.01\00:47:30.78
And you need to be able to.
00:47:30.81\00:47:32.15
You need to
stretch. Sure, absolutely.
00:47:32.18\00:47:33.52
We need to
stretch, it's important.
00:47:33.55\00:47:34.88
We also mentioned about
00:47:34.92\00:47:36.55
a Blue Zone in
Loma Linda, right?
00:47:36.58\00:47:38.69
People follow a NEWSTART.
00:47:38.72\00:47:40.76
And they don't do
yoga. They live long.
00:47:40.79\00:47:42.82
I know what a Blue Zone is,
00:47:42.86\00:47:44.19
but for our viewers that
don't what's a Blue Zone?
00:47:44.23\00:47:46.26
Sure.
00:47:46.29\00:47:47.63
Okay, so Blue Zones are defined
by National Geographic Channel
00:47:47.66\00:47:52.80
as a zone where
people live over 100 years.
00:47:52.83\00:47:56.20
Yes.
00:47:56.24\00:47:57.57
I remember I went to Loma Linda
00:47:57.61\00:47:59.41
and I went to the
senior citizen home.
00:47:59.44\00:48:03.21
And, man, those
people could move.
00:48:03.24\00:48:06.38
They can get
around... Praise God.
00:48:06.41\00:48:07.92
Without yoga. They were...
00:48:07.95\00:48:09.38
Yeah, and they were
so, they were brilliant.
00:48:09.42\00:48:11.95
And I was just like,
00:48:11.99\00:48:13.36
"Wait a minute, you're how old."
00:48:13.39\00:48:15.39
I was blown
away. I was blown away.
00:48:15.42\00:48:17.26
Yes. Many centenarians. Yes.
00:48:17.29\00:48:18.96
And it's important to
maintain that healthy diet.
00:48:18.99\00:48:21.86
Yes, not just for our
body, but for our brains.
00:48:21.90\00:48:24.27
It's so important for us
to consider that our physical,
00:48:24.30\00:48:28.30
mental, emotional,
and spiritual health
00:48:28.34\00:48:30.31
are all intertwined,
but that doesn't mean
00:48:30.34\00:48:33.51
we need to be bending our
body to worship other gods.
00:48:33.54\00:48:36.58
Yes. Yes.
00:48:36.61\00:48:37.95
We should never
worship other gods.
00:48:37.98\00:48:39.31
So I also wanna mention
about a testimony of a family
00:48:39.35\00:48:45.42
from a state of Punjab
00:48:45.45\00:48:46.79
we have actually the
northern part of India.
00:48:46.82\00:48:49.76
And God connected me
00:48:49.79\00:48:54.16
with this family
that I mentioned about
00:48:54.20\00:48:55.80
in the promotional video,
00:48:55.83\00:48:57.43
and they are from
a Hindu background.
00:48:57.47\00:49:00.14
And they didn't find solutions
and answers in Hinduism
00:49:00.17\00:49:03.94
because very
complicated and confusing,
00:49:03.97\00:49:06.91
and then they join
or they became Sikhs.
00:49:06.94\00:49:10.75
And there also they
did not find solutions.
00:49:10.78\00:49:16.05
Then they were
introduced to Christianity.
00:49:16.08\00:49:19.69
So this family
became Christian family.
00:49:19.72\00:49:21.82
Pentecostal.
00:49:21.86\00:49:23.19
Pentecostal family
00:49:23.22\00:49:24.93
and there also they
did not find solution.
00:49:24.96\00:49:27.73
So they decided to
start their own church.
00:49:27.76\00:49:30.83
And they have it
all registered formally
00:49:30.87\00:49:33.03
with the Indian government
00:49:33.07\00:49:34.40
that we are established
formal church gathering
00:49:34.44\00:49:36.94
on Sunday mornings.
00:49:36.97\00:49:38.71
Now I was
providentially led to them
00:49:38.74\00:49:42.24
through the
internet over a year ago.
00:49:42.28\00:49:45.55
And me and the
family started talking,
00:49:45.58\00:49:49.05
and then we start
off doing Bible studies.
00:49:49.08\00:49:51.59
So I speak in English,
00:49:51.62\00:49:53.62
and their daughter
translates into Punjabi.
00:49:53.66\00:49:56.59
And the mother and the father
write down notes in Punjabi
00:49:56.62\00:49:59.06
and they teach
it to their church.
00:49:59.09\00:50:00.86
Wow.
00:50:00.90\00:50:02.76
This whole
church 75-member church
00:50:02.80\00:50:06.33
has decided to become
a Sabbath keeping church.
00:50:06.37\00:50:09.67
Wow. Amen.
00:50:09.70\00:50:11.84
So... Praise God.
00:50:11.87\00:50:13.21
So they were going
to church on Sunday.
00:50:13.24\00:50:16.75
They translated
what you sent them.
00:50:16.78\00:50:19.48
They translated...
Over the phone. Yeah.
00:50:19.51\00:50:21.72
And then now they're a
Sabbath keeping church.
00:50:21.75\00:50:24.35
Yes. That's incredible.
00:50:24.39\00:50:26.62
That is
incredible. By God's grace.
00:50:26.65\00:50:27.99
You guys are witnessing
in multiple different arenas,
00:50:28.02\00:50:32.29
multiple different avenues.
00:50:32.33\00:50:35.30
I wanna just go
over real quickly,
00:50:35.33\00:50:37.50
what you provide
services to churches,
00:50:37.53\00:50:41.00
all of that because in a minute,
00:50:41.04\00:50:42.40
we're gonna go to
your address roll.
00:50:42.44\00:50:45.21
So what do you offer? Sure.
00:50:45.24\00:50:48.51
So I mean, these Bible workers.
00:50:48.54\00:50:49.88
Ivan and I both
preach, we give Bible studies,
00:50:49.91\00:50:52.88
we give health related programs,
00:50:52.91\00:50:56.79
we give the programs,
00:50:56.82\00:50:58.15
you know, about the
things from Ivan's background.
00:50:58.19\00:51:02.06
And so we really
all of the things
00:51:02.09\00:51:04.99
that we've
discussed today, you know,
00:51:05.03\00:51:07.10
we can offer
online or in person.
00:51:07.13\00:51:09.66
Yes. Nice.
00:51:09.70\00:51:11.03
In terms of business, obviously,
00:51:11.07\00:51:12.83
if people want to
support us, our ministry,
00:51:12.87\00:51:15.84
we have our products that
00:51:15.87\00:51:17.21
people can order
from our website.
00:51:17.24\00:51:18.57
Wonderful.
00:51:18.61\00:51:19.94
We also have another
website called PlantBased7
00:51:19.97\00:51:21.31
which we showed
00:51:21.34\00:51:22.68
during the promo
video in the beginning,
00:51:22.71\00:51:24.41
where people can register
to view The Plant-Based Summit.
00:51:24.45\00:51:29.02
That's wonderful.
00:51:29.05\00:51:30.39
And I know that people will want
00:51:30.42\00:51:31.75
to invite you to their church,
00:51:31.79\00:51:33.12
for the seminars, for
the Pop-Up Restaurants,
00:51:33.15\00:51:35.32
to really
educate the congregation.
00:51:35.36\00:51:37.76
At this time,
we're gonna get ready
00:51:37.79\00:51:39.39
to go to the address roll,
00:51:39.43\00:51:41.16
and then a news break,
and then we'll be right back.
00:51:41.20\00:51:46.60
For more information
about Heidi's Health Kitchen,
00:51:46.63\00:51:49.27
please go to their website
at HeidisHealthKitchen.com.
00:51:49.30\00:51:53.24
That's HeidisHealthKitchen.com
00:51:53.27\00:51:56.34
or you may email them at
HeidisHealthKitchen@gmail.com.
00:51:56.38\00:52:00.72
That's
HeidisHealthKitchen@gmail.com.
00:52:00.75\00:52:04.29
Their address is PO Box
232, Babylon, New York 11702.
00:52:04.32\00:52:10.39
That's PO Box 232,
Babylon, New York 11702.
00:52:10.43\00:52:15.50