I want to spend my life 00:00:02.00\00:00:07.94 Mending broken people 00:00:07.97\00:00:12.84 I want to spend my life 00:00:12.87\00:00:19.15 Removing pain 00:00:19.18\00:00:24.15 Lord, let my words 00:00:24.19\00:00:30.29 Heal a heart that hurts 00:00:30.33\00:00:35.06 I want to spend my life 00:00:35.10\00:00:40.67 Mending broken people 00:00:40.70\00:00:46.14 I want to spend my life 00:00:46.17\00:00:51.68 Mending broken people 00:00:51.71\00:00:55.22 Hello, friends, welcome to 3ABN Today. 00:01:08.70\00:01:10.97 My name is John Lomacang. 00:01:11.00\00:01:12.33 But, if you are part of our family, 00:01:12.37\00:01:14.37 you already know that. 00:01:14.40\00:01:15.74 If you're tuning in for the first time, 00:01:15.77\00:01:17.37 welcome to the network 00:01:17.41\00:01:19.17 that we believe is God breathed one 00:01:19.21\00:01:21.91 that is continuing even today as we sit here 00:01:21.94\00:01:24.81 to carry the gospel all the way around the globe, 00:01:24.85\00:01:28.02 24 hours a day, 00:01:28.05\00:01:29.38 seven days a week through television, 00:01:29.42\00:01:31.42 radio, internet and so many other means. 00:01:31.45\00:01:34.92 So thank you for your prayers, 00:01:34.96\00:01:36.93 and also your financial support 00:01:36.96\00:01:38.96 as we continue going and growing, 00:01:38.99\00:01:41.40 getting ready for the most important event 00:01:41.43\00:01:43.60 in the ages, the coming of the Lord Jesus Christ. 00:01:43.63\00:01:46.23 Today, we have a wonderful program, 00:01:46.27\00:01:48.10 faith versus sacrifice. 00:01:48.14\00:01:51.11 You know, we live in a day and age 00:01:51.14\00:01:52.47 where faith is on one side growing challenge by sacrifice, 00:01:52.51\00:01:56.64 sacrifice on the other challenging faith. 00:01:56.68\00:01:59.35 How do we merge the two together 00:01:59.38\00:02:01.95 and get involved in ministry? 00:02:01.98\00:02:03.32 Well, our guest today, 00:02:03.35\00:02:04.69 Tim Rumsey is going to talk about that 00:02:04.72\00:02:06.92 in his ministry. 00:02:06.96\00:02:08.32 But before I introduce him, 00:02:08.36\00:02:10.13 I want to just thank you 00:02:10.16\00:02:11.49 for all that you do for this ministry, 00:02:11.53\00:02:13.29 all that Christ has moved on your heart to do 00:02:13.33\00:02:15.50 whether you've come to work here, 00:02:15.53\00:02:17.23 or whether you volunteer, 00:02:17.27\00:02:18.60 or whether you sent your donations, 00:02:18.63\00:02:20.07 we do deeply appreciate that. 00:02:20.10\00:02:22.07 Right now, before we meet our guests, 00:02:22.10\00:02:23.61 we have some wonderful music, the song, 00:02:23.64\00:02:25.97 "Each One Reach One." 00:02:26.01\00:02:28.14 A very powerful song talking about 00:02:28.18\00:02:30.08 how the Lord can use you, 00:02:30.11\00:02:31.91 and Pam Lister is going to bless us 00:02:31.95\00:02:34.02 as we get ready for our program. 00:02:34.05\00:02:36.08 Tonight a man is somewhere 00:03:01.84\00:03:05.98 Proclaiming the good news 00:03:06.01\00:03:10.09 Winning families to Jesus 00:03:10.12\00:03:14.09 All around his neighborhood 00:03:14.12\00:03:17.86 He tells them that God is able 00:03:17.89\00:03:21.80 To make their house a home 00:03:21.83\00:03:26.03 He wants to win his world For Christ 00:03:26.07\00:03:30.67 But he can't do it alone 00:03:30.71\00:03:36.31 But each one 00:03:36.34\00:03:40.12 Can reach one 00:03:40.15\00:03:44.05 As we follow after Christ 00:03:44.09\00:03:47.66 We all can lead one 00:03:47.69\00:03:52.09 We can lead one 00:03:52.13\00:03:56.00 To the Savior 00:03:56.03\00:04:00.04 And together We can tell the world 00:04:00.07\00:04:04.44 Jesus is the way 00:04:04.47\00:04:08.01 If we each one 00:04:08.04\00:04:11.81 Reach one 00:04:11.85\00:04:15.65 The message is unchanging 00:04:23.96\00:04:27.66 "Go ye into all the world" 00:04:27.70\00:04:31.93 And share the love of Jesus 00:04:31.97\00:04:35.74 Far away or door to door 00:04:35.77\00:04:39.31 You see Just like somebody told you 00:04:39.34\00:04:43.58 Jesus loves you so 00:04:43.61\00:04:47.02 You must tell someone Who will tell someone 00:04:47.05\00:04:51.69 Until the whole world knows 00:04:51.72\00:04:57.06 Each one 00:04:57.09\00:05:00.46 Can reach one 00:05:00.50\00:05:04.27 As we follow after Christ 00:05:04.30\00:05:07.57 We all can lead one 00:05:07.60\00:05:11.87 We can lead one 00:05:11.91\00:05:15.68 To the Savior 00:05:15.71\00:05:19.61 Then together We can tell the world 00:05:19.65\00:05:23.82 Jesus is the way 00:05:23.85\00:05:27.26 If we each one 00:05:27.29\00:05:30.56 Reach one 00:05:30.59\00:05:34.96 So will you go and labor 00:05:35.00\00:05:38.57 Will you hold high your light 00:05:38.60\00:05:42.77 One by one, two by two 00:05:42.80\00:05:45.97 We can win our world 00:05:46.01\00:05:49.74 For Jesus Christ 00:05:49.78\00:05:54.38 Each one 00:05:54.42\00:05:57.09 Can reach one 00:05:57.12\00:06:00.82 As we follow after Christ 00:06:00.86\00:06:04.13 We all can lead one 00:06:04.16\00:06:08.36 We can lead one 00:06:08.40\00:06:12.13 To the Savior 00:06:12.17\00:06:15.30 And together We can tell the world 00:06:19.51\00:06:23.61 Jesus is the way 00:06:23.65\00:06:27.05 If we each one 00:06:27.08\00:06:33.49 Reach one 00:06:33.52\00:06:40.03 Thank you, Pam, for that wonderful song, 00:06:55.98\00:06:58.05 a beautiful segue into our program, 00:06:58.08\00:07:00.85 because our guest today understands 00:07:00.88\00:07:02.48 what it's like for each one to reach one. 00:07:02.52\00:07:06.86 Tim, good to have you here today. 00:07:06.89\00:07:08.29 Tim Rumsey, welcome back to 3ABN. 00:07:08.32\00:07:10.93 Thank you. Good to be here. Yes. 00:07:10.96\00:07:12.63 You know, we had a chance to sit down 00:07:12.66\00:07:14.00 and talk about the program prior to the program. 00:07:14.03\00:07:16.56 And there are some people watching 00:07:16.60\00:07:18.17 and maybe even listening to the program 00:07:18.20\00:07:19.67 that may say, "Hey, I know Tim," 00:07:19.70\00:07:21.40 but there's somebody who says, "Tim who?" 00:07:21.44\00:07:24.11 So kind of give us a little bit about your background, 00:07:24.14\00:07:26.94 where you're from, what you do right now 00:07:26.98\00:07:28.81 and then we'll dive into the specifics of the program. 00:07:28.84\00:07:31.58 Certainly. 00:07:31.61\00:07:33.82 We run a ministry called Pathway to Paradise Ministries. 00:07:33.85\00:07:36.62 Okay. And we began in 2014. 00:07:36.65\00:07:40.06 And I started out my working career 00:07:40.09\00:07:44.29 as a music teacher 00:07:44.33\00:07:45.83 and taught at the high school academy level 00:07:45.86\00:07:48.50 for about 10 years. 00:07:48.53\00:07:50.57 And shortly after my wife Stacy and I got married. 00:07:50.60\00:07:54.30 In fact, it was just a couple months 00:07:54.34\00:07:55.67 after we got married felt a very strong 00:07:55.70\00:07:57.54 and specific call from God 00:07:57.57\00:07:59.87 to be involved in ministry in some way. 00:07:59.91\00:08:03.21 We didn't know exactly what that meant 00:08:03.24\00:08:05.25 and so we began praying. 00:08:05.28\00:08:06.85 And we prayed for about eight months. 00:08:06.88\00:08:09.42 And it was through an entire school year, 00:08:09.45\00:08:12.09 my wife was teaching first and second grade at the time. 00:08:12.12\00:08:15.66 And we finally had to know what to tell her school, 00:08:15.69\00:08:20.70 if we were coming back the next year. 00:08:20.73\00:08:22.40 I was in graduate school at the time, 00:08:22.43\00:08:24.83 and working on a music degree, 00:08:24.87\00:08:28.30 and I had to tell that school if I was coming back or not, 00:08:28.34\00:08:32.44 and so we prayed very specifically, 00:08:32.47\00:08:33.91 "Lord, please show us by May 1 of that year, 00:08:33.94\00:08:37.58 what we should do." 00:08:37.61\00:08:38.95 And two days before that, 00:08:38.98\00:08:40.32 the phone rang and the next opportunity came, 00:08:40.35\00:08:43.35 which started us down this road of ministry work. 00:08:43.39\00:08:46.86 So we praise Him for what He's done 00:08:46.89\00:08:48.96 and look forward to sharing more. 00:08:48.99\00:08:51.36 Wow, wow. 00:08:51.39\00:08:52.73 So if you're looking at your background again, 00:08:52.76\00:08:56.73 music teacher that was the primary focus of, 00:08:56.77\00:09:00.24 but were you raised in a Christian home 00:09:00.27\00:09:01.90 or what kind of influence you had? 00:09:01.94\00:09:03.30 Yeah, I was raised as a Seventh-day Adventist 00:09:03.34\00:09:05.44 Christian home. 00:09:05.47\00:09:06.84 Good family, wonderful family 00:09:06.88\00:09:08.48 and so, I praise Him for that background, 00:09:08.51\00:09:11.91 which has definitely been a blessing. 00:09:11.95\00:09:14.18 Which gives you some anchor, some roots in there. 00:09:14.22\00:09:15.98 That's right. 00:09:16.02\00:09:17.35 Where did the inspiration come 00:09:17.39\00:09:19.05 and tell us what Pathway to Paradise Ministries 00:09:19.09\00:09:22.86 focuses on or is? 00:09:22.89\00:09:24.73 As you're talking about that, 00:09:24.76\00:09:26.09 where did that inspiration come from? 00:09:26.13\00:09:27.46 You talked about, "Okay, Lord, if You're moving us, 00:09:27.50\00:09:30.80 give us some indication by a particular date 00:09:30.83\00:09:33.23 as to whether my wife should continue 00:09:33.27\00:09:35.07 in what she's doing, whether I need to continue," 00:09:35.10\00:09:37.51 because that's a huge step of faith, 00:09:37.54\00:09:40.31 kind of like taking that parachute 00:09:40.34\00:09:41.68 and just diving out in the irreversible world 00:09:41.71\00:09:45.61 that lays before you. 00:09:45.65\00:09:47.32 Now, Hebrews 11:6 says, "Without faith," 00:09:47.35\00:09:50.45 it is not difficult, "but impossible to please God." 00:09:50.49\00:09:54.62 And in my own experience, 00:09:54.66\00:09:56.76 and as this ministry has been growing 00:09:56.79\00:09:58.29 and developing, 00:09:58.33\00:09:59.76 I can see very clearly that one of the primary things 00:09:59.79\00:10:02.70 Lord is trying to do for me personally, 00:10:02.73\00:10:05.17 is to develop faith. 00:10:05.20\00:10:07.07 And so, this is what we really... 00:10:07.10\00:10:08.74 This is our mission for this ministry 00:10:08.77\00:10:10.54 is to help other people to learn to trust God, 00:10:10.57\00:10:15.18 develop that trust and faith and come to the place 00:10:15.21\00:10:18.55 where they're willing to surrender 00:10:18.58\00:10:20.58 and trust completely God with their lives. 00:10:20.62\00:10:24.09 Now, what do you have you, when you think about, 00:10:24.12\00:10:26.59 well, I wake up one morning and I think, 00:10:26.62\00:10:27.96 okay, people need to trust God more. 00:10:27.99\00:10:29.96 Where did that spark come in? 00:10:29.99\00:10:31.69 Because I know that 00:10:31.73\00:10:33.06 when you dive out of the known into the unknown, 00:10:33.09\00:10:36.16 somewhere, you have to say, "Okay, Lord, 00:10:36.20\00:10:38.50 you're now challenging my faith also. 00:10:38.53\00:10:41.14 So would I be safe to say, 00:10:41.17\00:10:43.20 on the heels of you seeing God come through for you, 00:10:43.24\00:10:47.38 that has strengthened you to be able 00:10:47.41\00:10:48.74 to say to other people, 00:10:48.78\00:10:50.11 "Well, if God did this for me, God did this for you." 00:10:50.15\00:10:52.68 Where did the faith factor come in? 00:10:52.71\00:10:54.05 Absolutely. 00:10:54.08\00:10:55.42 And I think there's a deep connection 00:10:55.45\00:10:58.62 between faith and sacrifice. 00:10:58.65\00:11:01.09 Now there are many ways that God builds faith 00:11:01.12\00:11:03.76 in our lives. 00:11:03.79\00:11:05.13 For me personally, one of the big ways 00:11:05.16\00:11:06.90 that He has done this is by asking sacrifice. 00:11:06.93\00:11:10.77 I already mentioned a little bit 00:11:12.97\00:11:14.30 about that first years 00:11:14.34\00:11:15.67 we were struggling with this call, 00:11:15.70\00:11:17.04 what does this mean, you know, 00:11:17.07\00:11:18.41 where do You want us to go, Lord, do we move, 00:11:18.44\00:11:20.41 do we stay where we're at? 00:11:20.44\00:11:21.84 What does this look like? 00:11:21.88\00:11:23.65 And one of the things that I had to do before 00:11:23.68\00:11:26.15 I knew where the Lord was going to lead us next 00:11:26.18\00:11:28.98 was to be willing to give up my doctoral degree in music. 00:11:29.02\00:11:32.55 I was halfway through coursework, 00:11:32.59\00:11:34.12 I actually almost finished with coursework. 00:11:34.16\00:11:38.39 But as I mentioned a minute ago, 00:11:38.43\00:11:40.50 I had to tell the school if I was coming back, 00:11:40.53\00:11:43.47 if I needed the assistantship again the next year. 00:11:43.50\00:11:46.63 And as we were praying about this, 00:11:46.67\00:11:48.67 I finally came to the place where I told the school, 00:11:48.70\00:11:51.64 "No, I'm not coming back next year." 00:11:51.67\00:11:54.48 It wasn't till after that, 00:11:54.51\00:11:56.28 that God revealed the next step. 00:11:56.31\00:11:59.41 And so, for me personally, 00:11:59.45\00:12:02.15 this journey of growing in faith 00:12:02.18\00:12:05.12 has definitely been, 00:12:05.15\00:12:06.79 and it's not just once, it seems to be continual, 00:12:06.82\00:12:09.02 there's always the next test, 00:12:09.06\00:12:10.83 but being willing to sacrifice something for God. 00:12:10.86\00:12:13.80 So there was a no man's land moment 00:12:13.83\00:12:15.93 when you were leaving. 00:12:15.96\00:12:17.40 My wife and I went down to Zimbabwe and Zambia once 00:12:17.43\00:12:19.73 and when you cross from Zimbabwe to Zambia 00:12:19.77\00:12:22.27 or vice versa, 00:12:22.30\00:12:24.01 there's the bridge 00:12:24.04\00:12:26.31 that's considered no man's land. 00:12:26.34\00:12:28.88 You've left one country, 00:12:28.91\00:12:30.28 you haven't entered the other one yet. 00:12:30.31\00:12:32.28 So from hearing you correctly, 00:12:32.31\00:12:33.65 you had a no man's land experience. 00:12:33.68\00:12:35.68 Okay, we left that security. 00:12:35.72\00:12:39.12 Okay, what next, Lord? 00:12:39.15\00:12:41.06 What was that like and 'cause you are asking your wife 00:12:41.09\00:12:43.02 and do you have any children? 00:12:43.06\00:12:45.09 We have four children. Okay. 00:12:45.13\00:12:46.63 Blessed with two boys and two girls. 00:12:46.66\00:12:48.50 At the time, did you have those children? 00:12:48.53\00:12:49.86 No, we were just newlyweds when this happened. 00:12:49.90\00:12:52.17 Okay. 00:12:52.20\00:12:53.54 Good thing, because you know 00:12:53.57\00:12:54.90 when you talk about catapulting a whole family, 00:12:54.94\00:12:57.01 but now that you're involved in that, 00:12:57.04\00:12:58.54 we'll get to that in just a moment. 00:12:58.57\00:13:00.91 What was your wife? 00:13:00.94\00:13:02.28 What was her reaction? 00:13:02.31\00:13:04.05 Now I've been blessed with a godly woman 00:13:04.08\00:13:06.41 who loves God and has been supporting me 00:13:06.45\00:13:08.95 and encouraging me in this ministry from day one. 00:13:08.98\00:13:11.72 So we were praying together, she was excited as well. 00:13:11.75\00:13:15.42 And she's been a tremendous help to me. 00:13:15.46\00:13:18.46 Okay, so at breakfast, you say, "Okay Stacy," 00:13:18.49\00:13:21.90 which is your wife's name, 00:13:21.93\00:13:23.77 "the Lord has put it on my heart 00:13:23.80\00:13:26.13 to get involved in this kind of ministry. 00:13:26.17\00:13:30.24 Was it an immediate, "sure, whatever," 00:13:30.27\00:13:33.01 because I know... 00:13:33.04\00:13:34.38 Well, it was an immediate sure. 00:13:34.41\00:13:35.91 She didn't say whatever. She was excited. 00:13:35.94\00:13:38.51 So we immediately started praying 00:13:38.55\00:13:40.92 and looking forward to whatever was coming next. 00:13:40.95\00:13:43.05 That was coming next. 00:13:43.08\00:13:44.42 What does Pathway to Paradise Ministries do? 00:13:44.45\00:13:48.16 We present evangelistic series, 00:13:48.19\00:13:50.26 we work with local churches across the country. 00:13:50.29\00:13:53.16 We've been able to go overseas several times as well. 00:13:53.19\00:13:58.23 We also present revival series for churches. 00:13:58.27\00:14:01.57 We produce Bible study materials, 00:14:01.60\00:14:04.77 all with the focus and the aim of challenging people 00:14:04.81\00:14:08.84 in their relationship with God. 00:14:08.88\00:14:10.21 But really specifically, bringing people 00:14:10.25\00:14:13.45 with the Lord's help to the place 00:14:13.48\00:14:14.88 where they're willing to step out in faith 00:14:14.92\00:14:17.52 and trust God with their lives completely. 00:14:17.55\00:14:19.75 You know, with the... 00:14:19.79\00:14:21.69 We live in a world today 00:14:21.72\00:14:23.06 where ministries are on the left and right. 00:14:23.09\00:14:25.89 But you know what the Bible says, 00:14:25.93\00:14:27.26 "The harvest is ripe, but the laborers are few." 00:14:27.30\00:14:30.87 And when we look at the disproportionate 00:14:30.90\00:14:32.53 amount of people in the world today, 00:14:32.57\00:14:34.60 you know, it seems like even in America, 00:14:34.64\00:14:36.14 there are some un-entered areas. 00:14:36.17\00:14:38.51 So God has now lit another candle 00:14:38.54\00:14:41.94 with you and your wife. 00:14:41.98\00:14:43.31 Who else is involved in the ministry with you? 00:14:43.35\00:14:46.08 Well, shortly after this first experience 00:14:46.11\00:14:49.48 that I've been sharing, 00:14:49.52\00:14:50.95 the Lord led us on a mission trip down 00:14:50.99\00:14:53.62 to Ecuador in South America. 00:14:53.66\00:14:56.09 I don't speak Spanish. 00:14:56.12\00:14:57.73 So I had an interpreter there 00:14:57.76\00:14:59.49 that worked with me and helped me. 00:14:59.53\00:15:02.63 And his name is David Salazar. 00:15:02.66\00:15:04.77 And that was about eight years ago 00:15:04.80\00:15:07.00 that this happened. 00:15:07.04\00:15:08.44 We lost track of each other after that. 00:15:08.47\00:15:10.84 But just a few years ago, 00:15:10.87\00:15:12.34 we reconnected at a couple of ASI conventions. 00:15:12.37\00:15:16.24 And David is now working with us 00:15:16.28\00:15:18.25 as an associate speaker, 00:15:18.28\00:15:20.15 and really a valuable asset to our ministry. 00:15:20.18\00:15:24.59 He runs a daily Bible study program 00:15:24.62\00:15:27.76 called Profundo Desea. 00:15:27.79\00:15:29.42 And it's based on the current Sabbath School lesson. 00:15:29.46\00:15:32.26 It's 15 minutes, 00:15:32.29\00:15:33.63 we've just started doing it in video 00:15:33.66\00:15:35.00 as well as an audio podcast. 00:15:35.03\00:15:37.23 I do the English version called Deeper. 00:15:37.27\00:15:39.47 So this is a daily outreach 00:15:39.50\00:15:40.90 that our ministry is doing 00:15:40.94\00:15:42.44 to try to connect people with the Word of God 00:15:42.47\00:15:45.31 and develop that relationship with Jesus. 00:15:45.34\00:15:47.98 I like the podcast aspect of it 00:15:48.01\00:15:50.71 because so many things today is geared around television, 00:15:50.75\00:15:54.45 where you got to sit to watch that, 00:15:54.48\00:15:56.79 but you can listen to podcasts in your car, on your phone. 00:15:56.82\00:15:59.69 It's very mobile, like 3ABN radio, 00:15:59.72\00:16:03.16 which my wife works, 00:16:03.19\00:16:04.53 very mobile aspect of getting the gospel out. 00:16:04.56\00:16:07.03 So if I could, walk me through one of your day to days, 00:16:07.06\00:16:10.10 and then we're going to talk about 00:16:10.13\00:16:11.47 the blessings that God brought your way. 00:16:11.50\00:16:13.13 So you wake up in the morning and you say, "Okay, 00:16:13.17\00:16:15.20 here's on the cutting board for today. 00:16:15.24\00:16:18.47 How does that work? I do a lot of writing. 00:16:18.51\00:16:20.38 And so I try to get that writing time, 00:16:20.41\00:16:22.34 which can be a challenge. 00:16:22.38\00:16:23.88 Each day we write a study guide 00:16:23.91\00:16:28.22 that goes along with these Sabbath School lessons, 00:16:28.25\00:16:31.85 but we have a number of other projects as well, 00:16:31.89\00:16:34.26 an exciting new project 00:16:34.29\00:16:35.62 that is requiring a lot of writing right now 00:16:35.66\00:16:38.06 is a set of Bible unit studies 00:16:38.09\00:16:41.36 that families can use for family worship, 00:16:41.40\00:16:43.73 that can be used in a homeschool setting 00:16:43.77\00:16:45.30 as a Bible curriculum, 00:16:45.33\00:16:47.20 could even be used in a Sabbath school setting. 00:16:47.24\00:16:49.64 And so there is... 00:16:49.67\00:16:51.11 This is just a new project that we're just starting here, 00:16:51.14\00:16:53.24 but that's requiring quite a bit of writing time. 00:16:53.27\00:16:56.68 We do recording each day 00:16:56.71\00:16:59.55 as you mentioned the podcasts are nice. 00:16:59.58\00:17:01.58 Not only can people listen anywhere, 00:17:01.62\00:17:03.15 but I can record in my pajamas if I want to, right? 00:17:03.18\00:17:06.99 You don't have to. 00:17:07.02\00:17:08.36 Like somebody says you have a perfect face for audio. 00:17:08.39\00:17:10.66 You know, so you don't have to get all dressed up 00:17:10.69\00:17:12.59 to even participate in that. 00:17:12.63\00:17:14.20 Yes, but there's regular recording projects that we do. 00:17:14.23\00:17:18.30 And as we'll be explaining more as we go through the program, 00:17:18.33\00:17:23.61 we're really occupied right now 00:17:23.64\00:17:25.34 with a new building that we have. 00:17:25.37\00:17:27.58 Yes. 00:17:27.61\00:17:28.94 So Profundo Desea, is that, is that Spanish? 00:17:28.98\00:17:32.65 I've been told that that's the translation 00:17:32.68\00:17:34.48 for deeper in Spanish. 00:17:34.52\00:17:35.85 And I have to trust my colleague for that. 00:17:35.88\00:17:38.19 Okay, that's really good. 00:17:38.22\00:17:39.55 Get that out of the way because I was thinking, "Okay, 00:17:39.59\00:17:41.16 I never heard that word before." 00:17:41.19\00:17:42.82 Now, it explains why, that's good. 00:17:42.86\00:17:44.86 But now the family worship part that's really important 00:17:44.89\00:17:46.90 because a lot of families today, 00:17:46.93\00:17:48.76 you know, we have Sabbath morning worship 00:17:48.80\00:17:50.50 or people that go to church on Sunday. 00:17:50.53\00:17:53.47 We have people that say, "Okay, 00:17:53.50\00:17:55.14 we're going to worship when we get to church together. 00:17:55.17\00:17:57.64 But the family worship part of it, 00:17:57.67\00:17:59.57 how did that come about? 00:17:59.61\00:18:01.14 Because that's a significant portion 00:18:01.18\00:18:03.38 of making the family altar valuable. 00:18:03.41\00:18:06.85 And as a father, and as a husband, 00:18:06.88\00:18:09.98 you know, that's really important. 00:18:10.02\00:18:11.35 Where did that inspiration come? 00:18:11.39\00:18:13.25 Well, it came from our own desire 00:18:13.29\00:18:15.16 to connect our kids with Jesus. 00:18:15.19\00:18:18.19 And, you know, we have this desire 00:18:18.23\00:18:21.60 to see our four children grow 00:18:21.63\00:18:23.37 in their own relationship with Jesus, 00:18:23.40\00:18:25.73 one that's not just an add-on to our relationship. 00:18:25.77\00:18:30.97 And, you know, that's a natural progression. 00:18:31.01\00:18:33.14 Kids will start by doing what their parents do. 00:18:33.17\00:18:35.51 Sooner or later, we each have to make 00:18:35.54\00:18:37.81 that decision for ourselves. 00:18:37.85\00:18:39.45 We have to make that commitment ourselves. 00:18:39.48\00:18:42.15 And our desire, of course, 00:18:42.18\00:18:44.72 to see our children as any parent desires, 00:18:44.75\00:18:47.26 see their children make that decision. 00:18:47.29\00:18:49.79 You know, we've been told 00:18:49.82\00:18:52.56 that the Bible should be the most interesting subject, 00:18:52.59\00:18:56.50 most captivating subject 00:18:56.53\00:18:58.53 that there is that we can study. 00:18:58.57\00:19:00.67 And so, a real goal that we have for this, 00:19:00.70\00:19:05.91 these unit studies that we're working on 00:19:05.94\00:19:07.61 is that we can provide tools for parents and teachers 00:19:07.64\00:19:11.48 to really make the Bible come alive 00:19:11.51\00:19:13.45 and be something that is 00:19:13.48\00:19:15.28 of intense interest to the children. 00:19:15.32\00:19:18.25 That's good because a lot of times, 00:19:18.29\00:19:19.79 we know, when you mentioned today, 00:19:19.82\00:19:21.46 especially in today's society, 00:19:21.49\00:19:22.82 where we have these digital devices 00:19:22.86\00:19:25.39 where people can pull up information, 00:19:25.43\00:19:27.90 often encouraging people, 00:19:27.93\00:19:29.60 you know, carry a physical Bible, 00:19:29.63\00:19:31.67 don't rely on your phone or your iPod 00:19:31.70\00:19:34.47 or whatever device you might have 00:19:34.50\00:19:36.24 to be your Bible, 00:19:36.27\00:19:37.61 because you have the knowledge of good 00:19:37.64\00:19:40.08 and evil right there together, side by side. 00:19:40.11\00:19:41.94 But when you have the Bible, 00:19:41.98\00:19:43.38 it's very interesting that you can make it available 00:19:43.41\00:19:45.78 and relevant to your young people. 00:19:45.81\00:19:47.72 Because when you say to children nowadays, 00:19:47.75\00:19:50.52 let's study our Bibles, 00:19:50.55\00:19:52.05 unless they know that there's a joy there, 00:19:52.09\00:19:54.89 which is something that the parent has to develop, 00:19:54.92\00:19:57.46 they'll always look at is, "We have to really study? 00:19:57.49\00:20:00.30 Dad, I mean, I don't understand that." 00:20:00.33\00:20:02.46 So how do you think it impact your children? 00:20:02.50\00:20:04.90 Well, you know, the children have to see that joy 00:20:04.93\00:20:06.97 and that excitement that desire in their parents as well. 00:20:07.00\00:20:11.81 And so, that's a challenge. 00:20:11.84\00:20:14.04 For me, it's a challenge, 00:20:14.08\00:20:15.64 for my wife, it's a challenge for every parent too, 00:20:15.68\00:20:19.51 to have that joy and that interest themselves 00:20:19.55\00:20:22.28 and then to share it with others. 00:20:22.32\00:20:23.65 By infusing in your children. 00:20:23.69\00:20:25.45 Now, this is, like somebody once said. 00:20:25.49\00:20:29.62 I was hearing a story about a guy 00:20:29.66\00:20:30.99 that doesn't like broccoli. 00:20:31.03\00:20:32.36 And he said, "My dad did not like broccoli." 00:20:32.39\00:20:34.00 Every time he ate it, I could see his face. 00:20:34.03\00:20:36.06 And so, he didn't want to even try it, 00:20:36.10\00:20:38.33 because he saw the reaction. 00:20:38.37\00:20:40.07 But when you taste and see that the Lord is good, 00:20:40.10\00:20:44.14 and your children say, "I want some of that." 00:20:44.17\00:20:46.71 And that's really good, 00:20:46.74\00:20:48.48 putting that together for families, 00:20:48.51\00:20:49.84 I think that's going to be a tremendous asset 00:20:49.88\00:20:51.98 because a lot of times evangelism... 00:20:52.01\00:20:54.72 We think of evangelism is outside the home, 00:20:54.75\00:20:57.19 tent or a large church or any kind of venue 00:20:57.22\00:21:00.22 where we are preaching to a large crowd. 00:21:00.26\00:21:02.09 But if I'm hearing you correctly, 00:21:02.12\00:21:03.66 you're saying evangelism impacts the local family also. 00:21:03.69\00:21:07.06 Well, it starts in the family, 00:21:07.10\00:21:08.90 and we know that children are most likely 00:21:08.93\00:21:11.40 to make a decision for Christ 00:21:11.43\00:21:13.17 in their first years, in their early years. 00:21:13.20\00:21:15.00 And so this is, 00:21:15.04\00:21:16.57 we need all the other forms of evangelism too, 00:21:16.60\00:21:18.57 but we can't neglect this one. 00:21:18.61\00:21:20.94 That's very good. I like that. 00:21:20.98\00:21:22.94 It starts in the family doesn't, 00:21:22.98\00:21:24.88 it doesn't end up there, 00:21:24.91\00:21:26.25 eventually it starts in the family. 00:21:26.28\00:21:27.88 As mom used to say, you know, "What you do at home, 00:21:27.92\00:21:30.42 you'll do abroad." 00:21:30.45\00:21:31.85 Charity begins at home, 00:21:31.89\00:21:33.22 all those cliches that are very true. 00:21:33.25\00:21:35.26 Now, where does is your ministry function? 00:21:35.29\00:21:37.56 What's the particular location? 00:21:37.59\00:21:39.03 We gonna kind of bring up some of these 00:21:39.06\00:21:40.46 and tell us about that before 00:21:40.50\00:21:41.83 we bring up the pictures that you brought with you? 00:21:41.86\00:21:43.20 Sure. Well, we just moved recently. 00:21:43.23\00:21:45.67 We are now located near Macks Creek, Missouri. 00:21:45.70\00:21:48.77 It's in Central Missouri. 00:21:48.80\00:21:50.14 If you look at the map, 00:21:50.17\00:21:51.51 it's near the Lake of the Ozarks there. 00:21:51.54\00:21:52.91 Okay. 00:21:52.94\00:21:54.28 And about a year ago, 00:21:54.31\00:21:56.78 my wife and I both became convicted 00:21:56.81\00:21:59.05 at the same time 00:21:59.08\00:22:00.42 that we needed to put our house up for sale. 00:22:00.45\00:22:02.32 At the time we were living closer to Kansas City, 00:22:02.35\00:22:04.82 about two hours from where we currently are now. 00:22:04.85\00:22:08.09 We just built that house about five years before, 00:22:08.12\00:22:11.86 it was kind of our dream home. 00:22:11.89\00:22:14.00 You know, it had everything that we thought we'd ever need 00:22:14.03\00:22:16.03 or want in it. 00:22:16.06\00:22:17.60 But we became convicted 00:22:17.63\00:22:18.97 that the Lord might want us to move 00:22:19.00\00:22:21.67 for a couple of reasons. 00:22:21.70\00:22:23.04 Number one, to have a place to really plant 00:22:23.07\00:22:25.77 and establish Pathway to Paradise Ministries. 00:22:25.81\00:22:28.71 Secondly, the house was bigger than we felt like we needed. 00:22:28.74\00:22:33.35 And so, we wanted to see 00:22:33.38\00:22:35.88 if there was an opportunity to sacrifice ourselves 00:22:35.92\00:22:39.12 and help this ministry grow. 00:22:39.15\00:22:41.32 So we put the house on the market 00:22:41.36\00:22:43.49 for a 6-month window of time. 00:22:43.53\00:22:45.39 And when I told the realtor that, 00:22:45.43\00:22:46.76 she kind of gave me a cross eyed look, 00:22:46.80\00:22:48.33 and she said, "Well, usually we do a year." 00:22:48.36\00:22:50.77 I said, "I know but we want to do six months 00:22:50.80\00:22:54.60 and I told her we're going to be praying 00:22:54.64\00:22:55.97 and see if the Lord sells." 00:22:56.00\00:22:58.64 Well, that was in the springtime 00:22:58.67\00:23:01.94 and so, 179 days went by. 00:23:01.98\00:23:05.45 And we had a few people look at the house, 00:23:05.48\00:23:06.95 but there were no offers. 00:23:06.98\00:23:08.68 The only offer came 00:23:08.72\00:23:10.39 on the last day of that six months, 00:23:10.42\00:23:13.46 for the exact amount that I had been praying about, 00:23:13.49\00:23:16.16 as a minimum, 00:23:16.19\00:23:17.86 which afterwards maybe think 00:23:17.89\00:23:19.23 I should have been praying for a higher minimum. 00:23:19.26\00:23:22.23 But you know, when something like that happens 00:23:22.26\00:23:24.17 when you've been praying for six months, 00:23:24.20\00:23:25.77 and on the very last day, 00:23:25.80\00:23:27.34 you receive an answer, you can't ignore that. 00:23:27.37\00:23:29.30 That's right. 00:23:29.34\00:23:30.67 So we saw very clearly this is the Lord's leading. 00:23:30.71\00:23:33.21 We have no idea where we're going next, 00:23:33.24\00:23:35.24 just like years before, yeah. 00:23:35.28\00:23:38.75 The Lord sometimes brings us around to the same experience, 00:23:38.78\00:23:41.45 it seems. 00:23:41.48\00:23:42.82 So we sold our house, and that was last fall. 00:23:42.85\00:23:46.39 And for the next four months, 00:23:46.42\00:23:47.96 we looked for property, we were praying, 00:23:47.99\00:23:50.26 didn't know exactly where to go. 00:23:50.29\00:23:52.36 Eventually, several months ago, 00:23:52.39\00:23:55.23 the Lord led us to a place near Macks Creek, Missouri, 00:23:55.26\00:23:59.33 we found a house there. 00:23:59.37\00:24:01.37 And one week after we closed on that house, 00:24:01.40\00:24:04.24 we were driving south to go shopping. 00:24:04.27\00:24:08.78 And we drove by a Seventh-day Adventist Church 00:24:08.81\00:24:11.65 in Macks Creek, Missouri 00:24:11.68\00:24:13.01 that had sadly closed its doors last fall 00:24:13.05\00:24:16.42 due to dwindling membership. 00:24:16.45\00:24:19.29 And my wife and I looked at each other 00:24:19.32\00:24:21.09 and we thought, well, maybe this is why the Lord 00:24:21.12\00:24:23.29 brought us here to live. 00:24:23.32\00:24:25.29 And to make a long story short, 00:24:25.33\00:24:28.66 Pathway to Paradise Ministries purchased that church building 00:24:28.70\00:24:32.40 about a month and a half ago. 00:24:32.43\00:24:34.14 Through a very generous donation, 00:24:34.17\00:24:36.34 we were able to purchase that in the ministry, 00:24:36.37\00:24:39.44 and we now have a new headquarters 00:24:39.47\00:24:41.51 to operate from. 00:24:41.54\00:24:42.88 You know, what I like about that. 00:24:42.91\00:24:44.25 The light got turned off, 00:24:44.28\00:24:45.61 but you turned the lights back on. 00:24:45.65\00:24:47.58 See, wait a minute. Wait a minute. 00:24:47.62\00:24:48.95 The Lord doesn't built churches to close them. 00:24:48.98\00:24:50.75 And we understand the challenges sometimes 00:24:50.79\00:24:52.45 that congregations face, especially in this day and age, 00:24:52.49\00:24:56.09 but that was interesting. 00:24:56.12\00:24:58.16 We have a picture of that building, 00:24:58.19\00:24:59.63 I want people to see that right there. 00:24:59.66\00:25:02.20 Beautiful. 00:25:02.23\00:25:03.57 No, it's in a beautiful location, 00:25:03.60\00:25:04.93 we have about four and a half acres there. 00:25:04.97\00:25:08.14 And we just feel very, very thankful, 00:25:08.17\00:25:10.81 it's on a state highway. 00:25:10.84\00:25:12.81 And it's a great location for the ministry. 00:25:12.84\00:25:15.44 And you know what's amazing about that, Tim, 00:25:15.48\00:25:17.01 is the Lord knew was already there. 00:25:17.05\00:25:19.11 And then, when you talk about that story, 00:25:19.15\00:25:21.18 and I think this is where the faith 00:25:21.22\00:25:22.55 and sacrifice comes in, 00:25:22.58\00:25:23.92 because we talked about first that no man's land of, 00:25:23.95\00:25:27.02 okay, we're not going back to school 00:25:27.06\00:25:29.96 to finish my doctorate degree 00:25:29.99\00:25:31.63 and with your wife's full support, 00:25:31.66\00:25:33.60 okay, let's go forward. 00:25:33.63\00:25:34.96 So what does the Lord want us to do? 00:25:35.00\00:25:36.56 And you get across the bridge into a new land. 00:25:36.60\00:25:39.60 And then how long after you began your ministry 00:25:39.63\00:25:42.30 did this change from location come in? 00:25:42.34\00:25:45.34 Our ministry began in 2014. 00:25:45.37\00:25:47.68 So we've been operating out of our basement 00:25:47.71\00:25:50.98 since, you know, since we began, 00:25:51.01\00:25:52.88 and it worked well, but as we've been growing, 00:25:52.91\00:25:55.68 we've been adding more people into the ministry, 00:25:55.72\00:25:58.55 it just wasn't enough room. 00:25:58.59\00:25:59.92 So this was another reason that we really felt like 00:25:59.95\00:26:02.52 we needed to put that house up for sale. 00:26:02.56\00:26:04.96 And make that sacrifice without knowing 00:26:04.99\00:26:07.96 where we might end up. 00:26:08.00\00:26:09.33 But trust God to provide what was needed. 00:26:09.36\00:26:12.27 I want to go back to Hebrews 11:6, 00:26:12.30\00:26:15.64 you know, "Without faith, it is impossible to please God, 00:26:15.67\00:26:19.17 for He that cometh to God must believe that He is 00:26:19.21\00:26:21.94 and that He is a rewarder of them 00:26:21.98\00:26:24.15 that diligently seek Him." 00:26:24.18\00:26:26.15 I see something really important here, 00:26:26.18\00:26:28.35 we need to believe that God exists. 00:26:28.38\00:26:29.78 I mean, that's kind of the baseline. 00:26:29.82\00:26:31.59 We kind of start with that. 00:26:31.62\00:26:33.29 But that's not enough. 00:26:33.32\00:26:34.82 That's not the kind of faith God 00:26:34.86\00:26:36.39 is really looking for. 00:26:36.42\00:26:38.13 Because, yes, we need to believe that He is, 00:26:38.16\00:26:40.56 but we also need to believe that 00:26:40.60\00:26:41.93 He is a rewarder of those that seek Him. 00:26:41.96\00:26:45.07 In other words, He's a good God. 00:26:45.10\00:26:47.14 And as we are willing to trust Him more and more, 00:26:47.17\00:26:50.74 if that includes sacrifice to sacrifice more and more, 00:26:50.77\00:26:53.84 He's going to reward that. 00:26:53.88\00:26:56.71 And something I've found in my own life, 00:26:56.75\00:26:58.41 and I know many other people have as well, 00:26:58.45\00:27:00.75 is that you can't outgive God. 00:27:00.78\00:27:02.95 If you're willing to sacrifice Him with this, 00:27:02.98\00:27:05.02 or sacrifice this much for Him, 00:27:05.05\00:27:06.76 He's going to give back this much. 00:27:06.79\00:27:08.42 Exponentially. 00:27:08.46\00:27:09.79 Absolutely. 00:27:09.82\00:27:11.16 And we feel like God has done that here. 00:27:11.19\00:27:13.29 I went from a basement office to an entire building, 00:27:13.33\00:27:17.23 in fact, is going to work beautifully 00:27:17.27\00:27:19.63 for our ministry, 00:27:19.67\00:27:21.00 but also to try to reach that local community 00:27:21.04\00:27:23.51 with the gospel and the three angels' messages. 00:27:23.54\00:27:26.01 Wow, wonderful. 00:27:26.04\00:27:27.38 I want to go back to something you said a moment ago 00:27:27.41\00:27:28.74 because this really to me, in the lives of so many, 00:27:28.78\00:27:32.51 this is the bridge that they have to get across, 00:27:32.55\00:27:35.68 the reality that God exists. 00:27:35.72\00:27:38.52 You know, when you get to the reality 00:27:38.55\00:27:39.89 and accept the fact like you read the text, 00:27:39.92\00:27:42.49 must believe that He is. 00:27:42.52\00:27:45.69 Must believe that He is. 00:27:45.73\00:27:48.00 That was, I like the way you said that, Tim, 00:27:48.03\00:27:49.66 because when you believe that He is, 00:27:49.70\00:27:51.73 then you know if He's real, 00:27:51.77\00:27:53.87 He's going to reward those who seek Him 00:27:53.90\00:27:57.44 or diligently seek Him. 00:27:57.47\00:28:00.01 So God is not the hidden treasure. 00:28:00.04\00:28:02.91 He's the ever-existing God. 00:28:02.94\00:28:04.81 But when we search for Him, 00:28:04.85\00:28:06.78 like we're searching for that treasure 00:28:06.82\00:28:08.38 that we know is there. 00:28:08.42\00:28:10.29 We know eventually, as the guy said, 00:28:10.32\00:28:12.55 you know, eventually we're going to hit the vein. 00:28:12.59\00:28:14.79 You know, that's the treasure aspect of it. 00:28:14.82\00:28:17.19 But God, and I praise the Lord for that, 00:28:17.23\00:28:19.63 we're going to show the audience 00:28:19.66\00:28:21.60 on television here, 00:28:21.63\00:28:23.16 but those of you who are listening on radio, 00:28:23.20\00:28:25.33 we'll explain this, 00:28:25.37\00:28:26.70 how God sees long before we move, 00:28:26.74\00:28:30.94 how God knows long before we understand. 00:28:30.97\00:28:33.58 Now the building was a beautiful shot of it, 00:28:33.61\00:28:35.31 but when you got the building, there was some changes needed. 00:28:35.34\00:28:38.51 And you kind of put the elbow grease on 00:28:38.55\00:28:40.42 by getting together. 00:28:40.45\00:28:41.78 Explain that to us? That's right. 00:28:41.82\00:28:43.15 The building was first built in 1979, 00:28:43.18\00:28:45.99 structurally that, you know, the skeleton is very good, 00:28:46.02\00:28:48.69 but there's a lot of cosmetic updating 00:28:48.72\00:28:51.29 that needs to take place, renovations, 00:28:51.33\00:28:53.66 and there'd been quite a bit of water damage 00:28:53.70\00:28:55.10 in the basement. 00:28:55.13\00:28:56.46 So we've already in the last four weeks, 00:28:56.50\00:28:58.73 we've gutted half of the basement 00:28:58.77\00:29:00.80 replacing restrooms and a kitchen. 00:29:00.84\00:29:03.14 And that's going to continue 00:29:03.17\00:29:05.24 as we keep working our way through the building. 00:29:05.27\00:29:07.58 So this next picture here, let's talk about that? 00:29:07.61\00:29:11.38 Yes, that's me with my oldest son James 00:29:11.41\00:29:14.48 enjoying a sledgehammer work. 00:29:14.52\00:29:17.39 And the man standing next to me is Pastor David Salazar, 00:29:17.42\00:29:21.22 who I mentioned a few minutes ago. 00:29:21.26\00:29:22.59 Okay. 00:29:22.62\00:29:23.96 Because when you said your older son James, 00:29:23.99\00:29:25.39 I was thinking, boy, he's really tall. 00:29:25.43\00:29:28.16 Okay, good. 00:29:28.20\00:29:29.53 I'm glad you explained the other guy. 00:29:29.56\00:29:30.90 Yes. 00:29:30.93\00:29:32.27 Good, so your son is now beginning 00:29:32.30\00:29:33.64 to join you in this push 00:29:33.67\00:29:35.47 with his little sledgehammer there getting... 00:29:35.50\00:29:37.67 Was that the upstairs part of the... 00:29:37.71\00:29:39.97 That was the basement. 00:29:40.01\00:29:41.34 We were standing in 00:29:41.38\00:29:42.71 what will be the renovated kitchen. 00:29:42.74\00:29:44.48 Okay. 00:29:44.51\00:29:45.85 And this next picture we have here. 00:29:45.88\00:29:47.78 Talk about this one? 00:29:47.82\00:29:49.15 Yes, this is another view of that same room, 00:29:49.18\00:29:52.25 a little bit further progressed. 00:29:52.29\00:29:54.32 We are again putting in a fellowship hall 00:29:54.36\00:29:57.06 and kitchen there 00:29:57.09\00:29:58.43 and if we can go to the next picture, 00:29:58.46\00:30:00.30 few of the other areas, 00:30:00.33\00:30:01.66 this is another room in the basement. 00:30:01.70\00:30:04.13 And this will be a recording studio. 00:30:04.17\00:30:06.07 We're going to be dividing that room in half 00:30:06.10\00:30:08.67 and putting in a video production room. 00:30:08.70\00:30:11.61 The next picture shows the room just beside that, 00:30:11.64\00:30:15.01 we'll be putting a wall in here 00:30:15.04\00:30:16.41 and building a radio recording booth 00:30:16.44\00:30:18.71 as well as an editing room to control all these studios. 00:30:18.75\00:30:22.05 Wow, that's right, go forward. 00:30:22.08\00:30:23.65 I'm hearing you. 00:30:23.69\00:30:25.02 When the Lord provides a building like that, 00:30:25.05\00:30:27.42 He doesn't provide that building 00:30:27.46\00:30:29.12 to be stagnant. 00:30:29.16\00:30:33.43 Great vision. 00:30:33.46\00:30:34.80 So how do you see the shaping up 00:30:34.83\00:30:38.23 when you're putting your all into it, 00:30:38.27\00:30:41.87 I mean, the financial support to make that happen? 00:30:41.90\00:30:44.97 Yes, well, we continue to pursue our programs 00:30:45.01\00:30:49.44 as well as, of course, we have the sanctuary upstairs. 00:30:49.48\00:30:52.01 So we can use that to hold live meetings 00:30:52.05\00:30:54.15 and live events. 00:30:54.18\00:30:55.58 And we can film from there as well. 00:30:55.62\00:30:57.62 But we have a lot of ideas and a lot of plans. 00:30:57.65\00:31:00.49 We believe the Lord has big plans in store 00:31:00.52\00:31:03.06 for what He wants to do through this building here. 00:31:03.09\00:31:07.76 That does take money. 00:31:07.80\00:31:09.13 You know, I think of Noah's experience. 00:31:09.16\00:31:11.97 When God called him to build the ark, 00:31:12.00\00:31:14.20 there was a sacrifice demanded of Noah. 00:31:14.24\00:31:16.87 And just like today, 4,500 years ago, 00:31:16.91\00:31:19.57 it cost money to do a building project. 00:31:19.61\00:31:23.65 We're told that Noah invested everything 00:31:23.68\00:31:25.38 that he had in that ark, 00:31:25.41\00:31:27.25 total sacrifice on his part, 00:31:27.28\00:31:29.48 and the Lord rewarded him, didn't He? 00:31:29.52\00:31:31.72 Saved his family. 00:31:31.75\00:31:33.09 Absolutely. 00:31:33.12\00:31:34.46 And so we do have a budget, 00:31:34.49\00:31:37.29 estimated budget of $400,000 00:31:37.33\00:31:39.93 to complete all of the renovations 00:31:39.96\00:31:42.20 and some of the new building that needs to take place there. 00:31:42.23\00:31:46.20 We've already received $100,000 lead gift 00:31:46.23\00:31:49.14 to get us started. 00:31:49.17\00:31:50.51 We've received another pledge 00:31:50.54\00:31:53.94 for $150,000 in matching funds, 00:31:53.98\00:31:57.18 which leaves us 00:31:57.21\00:31:59.68 that needs to be raised to reach that $400,000 goal. 00:31:59.71\00:32:03.15 So we praise the Lord, 00:32:03.18\00:32:04.52 this is all happening in six weeks, very quickly. 00:32:04.55\00:32:08.46 That's good. 00:32:08.49\00:32:09.82 Once you move by faith, 00:32:09.86\00:32:11.59 once you see God, 00:32:11.63\00:32:13.36 God's hand leading you, 00:32:13.40\00:32:14.96 then the hesitation starts to dissipate. 00:32:15.00\00:32:17.37 So where there was a challenge on one side, 00:32:17.40\00:32:20.27 now the faith is saying, 00:32:20.30\00:32:21.64 "Hey, if, you know, if God is going to do this, 00:32:21.67\00:32:23.97 what else is God going to do? 00:32:24.01\00:32:25.57 And how else is God's going to do that?" 00:32:25.61\00:32:27.94 How do you produce your materials? 00:32:27.98\00:32:29.78 Talk about some, you know, you have Bible studies, 00:32:29.81\00:32:31.91 the printed material, how do you do that? 00:32:31.95\00:32:33.82 Well, we own a nice business type copier 00:32:33.85\00:32:37.32 and so a lot of the printed material 00:32:37.35\00:32:38.95 and study guides we print on demand 00:32:38.99\00:32:40.52 when those are ordered. 00:32:40.56\00:32:42.82 And we have enough equipment like paper folders 00:32:42.86\00:32:46.16 and so forth to make that happen. 00:32:46.19\00:32:49.36 Our videos we produce as well. 00:32:49.40\00:32:52.23 We have the cameras and the computers there. 00:32:52.27\00:32:54.50 So the Lord has blessed us with these resources 00:32:54.54\00:32:57.41 and we look forward to continuing to use it 00:32:57.44\00:33:01.21 to produce those materials that will help bring people 00:33:01.24\00:33:04.55 to that relationship with Jesus. 00:33:04.58\00:33:06.45 Now in every ministry development side, 00:33:06.48\00:33:09.02 there's an obstacle. 00:33:09.05\00:33:10.42 What would you say 00:33:10.45\00:33:11.79 your greatest obstacle right now, 00:33:11.82\00:33:13.15 as we talked about the financial part, 00:33:13.19\00:33:14.99 we'll talk about some of the needs later on. 00:33:15.02\00:33:16.96 But what are some of the challenges you face 00:33:16.99\00:33:19.13 because I know that, you know, 00:33:19.16\00:33:20.96 an airplane rises with its nose right into the wind. 00:33:21.00\00:33:24.30 What's the wind coming against you 00:33:24.33\00:33:27.34 in this day to day ministry? 00:33:27.37\00:33:30.71 Yes, right now, 00:33:30.74\00:33:32.87 we have several opportunities for ways that people can help. 00:33:32.91\00:33:37.48 We're having some work bees 00:33:37.51\00:33:39.08 and those will be ongoing probably several times. 00:33:39.11\00:33:41.82 And so people within driving distance 00:33:41.85\00:33:43.72 of Macks Creek, Missouri, 00:33:43.75\00:33:45.09 we would love to hear from them, 00:33:45.12\00:33:46.45 especially if they have building experience, 00:33:46.49\00:33:48.49 and they'd like to come in and help, 00:33:48.52\00:33:50.09 that's an opportunity. 00:33:50.13\00:33:52.46 We're also needing more people to help us in our ministry 00:33:52.49\00:33:56.93 with video production work. 00:33:56.97\00:34:00.04 Some of these types of things we're praying about 00:34:00.07\00:34:02.97 and waiting for the Lord to bring us the right people. 00:34:03.00\00:34:06.21 Now are these... 00:34:06.24\00:34:07.58 We'll give the website information 00:34:07.61\00:34:08.94 before the program is done, 00:34:08.98\00:34:10.48 or any of these needs for production, for equipment, 00:34:10.51\00:34:14.92 are they listed at all on your website? 00:34:14.95\00:34:16.82 They are. 00:34:16.85\00:34:18.19 Our website is www.PathwayToParadise.org. 00:34:18.22\00:34:22.82 And then off the homepage, 00:34:22.86\00:34:24.33 we have some pages that explain our needs there. 00:34:24.36\00:34:28.46 And also the opportunities for people to be involved. 00:34:28.50\00:34:31.53 Pathway to Paradise, beautiful name, 00:34:31.57\00:34:33.47 but how did you arrive at it? 00:34:33.50\00:34:35.57 My first evangelistic series that I preached, 00:34:35.60\00:34:39.34 I developed and wrote that series 00:34:39.37\00:34:41.74 and that was the name of that series. 00:34:41.78\00:34:43.88 That was before the ministry really got started. 00:34:43.91\00:34:46.68 And then shortly after that, 00:34:46.72\00:34:48.05 as my wife and I were searching for a ministry name, 00:34:48.08\00:34:52.05 we thought, well, Pathway to Paradise 00:34:52.09\00:34:53.89 seems like a good name. 00:34:53.92\00:34:55.26 Let's use that. 00:34:55.29\00:34:56.62 So that's how that name came about. 00:34:56.66\00:34:58.13 So it was the one that you're using 00:34:58.16\00:35:01.53 for your own ministry. 00:35:01.56\00:35:03.10 And now that's the working challenges, 00:35:03.13\00:35:07.24 more people on the side helping out 00:35:07.27\00:35:10.84 if you can build any spiritual challenges 00:35:10.87\00:35:14.41 that you face, 00:35:14.44\00:35:15.78 because I know anytime you get involved in ministry, 00:35:15.81\00:35:17.65 you know, the devil always tries to, 00:35:17.68\00:35:19.38 on those days try to say, "Well, Tim, 00:35:19.41\00:35:21.22 I mean, do you really think this 00:35:21.25\00:35:23.15 is going to work?" 00:35:23.18\00:35:24.55 Any of those challenges or are they minimizing? 00:35:24.59\00:35:26.89 Oh, no, there's always the spiritual challenges 00:35:26.92\00:35:29.09 and those just increase as time goes on. 00:35:29.12\00:35:35.00 There have been challenges for my wife and I, 00:35:35.03\00:35:37.23 we've shared a number of those here this, 00:35:37.27\00:35:39.40 you know, today as we've been discussing this, 00:35:39.43\00:35:42.67 that willingness to sacrifice 00:35:42.70\00:35:44.31 and it's tough for every one of us, 00:35:44.34\00:35:45.77 and we each have a different area 00:35:45.81\00:35:47.34 where it's a challenge for us. 00:35:47.38\00:35:49.54 My challenge may not be your challenge. 00:35:49.58\00:35:51.48 And your challenge may be something 00:35:51.51\00:35:52.91 I don't struggle with. 00:35:52.95\00:35:54.48 But the willingness to surrender 00:35:54.52\00:35:57.69 and to follow the Lord even when we can't see 00:35:57.72\00:36:00.09 what that might mean, 00:36:00.12\00:36:01.46 I think that's the biggest thing. 00:36:01.49\00:36:03.66 It has been for me and for others it is as well. 00:36:03.69\00:36:08.03 You know, one of the illustrations 00:36:08.06\00:36:09.96 I use frequently is the African Impala, 00:36:10.00\00:36:12.30 a small animal, 00:36:12.33\00:36:13.67 and it can leap up to 30 feet or so I've read, 00:36:13.70\00:36:17.14 incredible agility and strength in that animal. 00:36:17.17\00:36:20.41 But in a zoo, if you go to a zoo, 00:36:20.44\00:36:23.21 they can be kept in their enclosure 00:36:23.24\00:36:24.85 with just a three-foot wall. 00:36:24.88\00:36:26.95 They could leap two or three times that high, 00:36:26.98\00:36:29.48 but they can't see. 00:36:29.52\00:36:30.85 If they can't see where they land, 00:36:30.89\00:36:32.72 if their eyes are just below that three-foot wall, 00:36:32.75\00:36:34.49 they will not jump. 00:36:34.52\00:36:36.02 And so often we are like that. 00:36:36.06\00:36:38.53 If we can't see what it's going to mean 00:36:38.56\00:36:40.63 on the other side, if I truly trust God, 00:36:40.66\00:36:42.50 if I truly follow Him. 00:36:42.53\00:36:44.50 I've been there myself, "Lord, I can't do it. 00:36:44.53\00:36:47.10 Can I really trust You?" 00:36:47.14\00:36:48.64 And to me, it again goes back to Hebrews 11:6. 00:36:48.67\00:36:52.74 Yes, we need to trust and believe that God exists. 00:36:52.77\00:36:56.08 But there's even more to it than that. 00:36:56.11\00:36:57.61 We need to trust and believe that He's a good God 00:36:57.65\00:36:59.95 and that He is someone 00:36:59.98\00:37:01.85 that we are safe with our lives launching out, 00:37:01.88\00:37:05.95 taking that leap 00:37:05.99\00:37:07.32 that He'll catch us in places right 00:37:07.36\00:37:08.69 where we need to be. 00:37:08.72\00:37:10.06 Wow. 00:37:10.09\00:37:11.43 You know, what I'm hearing, Tim is, 00:37:11.46\00:37:12.79 you know, where people that may be listening 00:37:12.83\00:37:14.16 to the program that are challenged by, 00:37:14.20\00:37:15.93 you know, their faith and their fears 00:37:15.96\00:37:17.73 or their sacrifices, some people will say, 00:37:17.77\00:37:20.90 well, the fear of the unknown is the thing 00:37:20.94\00:37:24.64 that keeps me frozen at the place 00:37:24.67\00:37:28.01 where I'm not even willing to go forward. 00:37:28.04\00:37:31.45 When did you break through that barrier? 00:37:31.48\00:37:34.02 Because I know I'm looking at many aspects 00:37:34.05\00:37:37.09 of each of the lives of Christians 00:37:37.12\00:37:39.45 that are able to get to the place, 00:37:39.49\00:37:40.89 even 3ABN is a miracle. 00:37:40.92\00:37:43.09 And we look back on the footsteps, 00:37:43.12\00:37:45.19 you know, how it grew through the years, 00:37:45.23\00:37:46.80 but we knew that along the way, 00:37:46.83\00:37:48.16 there was some of those breakthrough moments. 00:37:48.20\00:37:51.23 Do you mark those as your Ebenezers, 00:37:51.27\00:37:54.27 you know the term Ebenezer? 00:37:54.30\00:37:55.84 Yeah, we do. 00:37:55.87\00:37:57.21 And I think we have to have that. 00:37:57.24\00:37:59.21 We each need that pile of stones, so to speak, 00:37:59.24\00:38:01.68 like when the Israelites pass through the Jordan River, 00:38:01.71\00:38:04.31 Joshua told them, 00:38:04.35\00:38:05.68 build this pile of stones as a reminder 00:38:05.71\00:38:08.25 of what the Lord has done. 00:38:08.28\00:38:09.82 And we need to do that 00:38:09.85\00:38:11.19 in whatever form that means in our lives. 00:38:11.22\00:38:13.42 So that we can look back and say, "Okay, 00:38:13.46\00:38:15.86 the Lord worked for me here. 00:38:15.89\00:38:17.73 I trusted Him here. 00:38:17.76\00:38:19.66 He worked a miracle here." 00:38:19.69\00:38:21.03 That means that now today where I'm at right now, 00:38:21.06\00:38:23.30 in this situation, I can trust Him. 00:38:23.33\00:38:26.67 And it's so important to have those markers behind us 00:38:26.70\00:38:30.74 because at least in my life, 00:38:30.77\00:38:32.94 the challenges continue to increase 00:38:32.97\00:38:34.94 and get greater and greater. 00:38:34.98\00:38:36.68 I look at Abraham's life. 00:38:36.71\00:38:38.48 Now God gave him incredible promises. 00:38:38.51\00:38:41.02 If you will follow Me 00:38:41.05\00:38:42.38 and go to a land that you don't know, 00:38:42.42\00:38:44.59 I will make a great nation of you. 00:38:44.62\00:38:46.55 And Abraham at the time, 00:38:46.59\00:38:48.06 he had to make a decision of sacrifice. 00:38:48.09\00:38:51.23 He had to leave his home, he had to leave his friends, 00:38:51.26\00:38:54.96 probably many family members, 00:38:55.00\00:38:56.73 maybe a prosperous job. 00:38:56.77\00:38:59.00 He had to be willing to give all of that up 00:38:59.03\00:39:00.64 and follow God. 00:39:00.67\00:39:02.27 And he does and God blesses him. 00:39:02.30\00:39:04.04 And you come to the end of Abraham's life, 00:39:04.07\00:39:06.41 and he has the greatest test of faith, 00:39:06.44\00:39:09.61 probably that any person has ever had, 00:39:09.64\00:39:11.21 and that is to sacrifice his son Isaac. 00:39:11.25\00:39:13.25 Today, we remember Abraham as the father of the faithful. 00:39:16.28\00:39:19.69 There's a reason for that, 00:39:19.72\00:39:21.26 because he was willing to sacrifice 00:39:21.29\00:39:23.93 and to trust God to that degree. 00:39:23.96\00:39:27.20 That's a challenge for us. 00:39:27.23\00:39:28.56 That's right. 00:39:28.60\00:39:29.93 In what you said, I want to reiterate that 00:39:29.96\00:39:31.30 because it's important that people get it. 00:39:31.33\00:39:33.60 When you catapult yourself forward, 00:39:33.64\00:39:37.41 that Impala example is beautiful. 00:39:37.44\00:39:39.54 When you can't see that's when you have to, 00:39:39.57\00:39:41.34 that leap of faith is the term I like to use the Impala. 00:39:41.38\00:39:45.65 I'm not going to jump if I can't see 00:39:45.68\00:39:47.02 where I'm headed, but in the Christian's life 00:39:47.05\00:39:48.75 when you know God is there, when you know He's real, 00:39:48.78\00:39:51.75 you can take that leap of faith and when you land successfully, 00:39:51.79\00:39:55.66 then you say it was not as bad as I thought 00:39:55.69\00:39:57.86 it was going to be. 00:39:57.89\00:39:59.23 Actually was better than I thought 00:39:59.26\00:40:00.60 it was going to be. 00:40:00.63\00:40:01.96 And then He brings another obstacle. 00:40:02.00\00:40:03.73 And a lot of people don't see obstacles 00:40:03.77\00:40:05.90 as God's appointments. 00:40:05.93\00:40:07.37 They see obstacles as a hindrance of faith 00:40:07.40\00:40:11.57 rather than a developer of faith. 00:40:11.61\00:40:13.84 Talk about that, because you've seen, 00:40:13.88\00:40:15.98 you know, the sacrifices, you made some major sacrifices 00:40:16.01\00:40:19.25 and anybody diving into what you're diving into now, 00:40:19.28\00:40:22.08 there will be those days where you'll say, "Oh, 00:40:22.12\00:40:25.75 how much do we need to get that video equipment? 00:40:25.79\00:40:28.16 When will the audio boards arrive? 00:40:28.19\00:40:30.26 I wonder if we could hire one more person." 00:40:30.29\00:40:32.69 You're going to have those continual challenges. 00:40:32.73\00:40:34.43 But what you have now is you've seen God working 00:40:34.46\00:40:38.10 and you know that more challenges 00:40:38.13\00:40:39.47 are going to come. 00:40:39.50\00:40:40.84 You don't anticipate them, 00:40:40.87\00:40:42.20 but it's a part of faith building. 00:40:42.24\00:40:43.57 That's right. 00:40:43.61\00:40:44.94 And another thing 00:40:44.97\00:40:46.31 that has become so evident to me 00:40:46.34\00:40:47.68 is that God often requires us to claim His promise, 00:40:47.71\00:40:51.11 but then act before we see the fulfillment of the promise. 00:40:51.15\00:40:55.35 It's kind of like the Israelites again, 00:40:55.38\00:40:56.82 when they cross the Jordan River, 00:40:56.85\00:40:58.45 those priests had to get their feet wet 00:40:58.49\00:41:00.36 in the river, 00:41:00.39\00:41:01.72 the toes had to touch the water and then the water stopped. 00:41:01.76\00:41:05.06 And I've seen this many times in our experience 00:41:05.09\00:41:07.56 as this ministry has been growing, 00:41:07.60\00:41:09.66 that, yes, we need to pray 00:41:09.70\00:41:11.53 and we need to claim God's promises, 00:41:11.57\00:41:13.74 but then we act in faith. 00:41:13.77\00:41:15.84 And as we do that, 00:41:15.87\00:41:17.21 then the fulfillment of the promise comes. 00:41:17.24\00:41:19.74 Because when you read that passage, 00:41:19.77\00:41:22.54 without faith, I love that going back, 00:41:22.58\00:41:24.98 it's impossible to please God. 00:41:25.01\00:41:27.55 It's impossible. 00:41:27.58\00:41:28.92 So for people that are trying to please God without faith, 00:41:28.95\00:41:31.75 what is it? 00:41:31.79\00:41:33.12 Impossible, because He is saying to us, 00:41:33.15\00:41:35.49 we have this faith walk, and faith, 00:41:35.52\00:41:38.39 I had a quotation the other day, 00:41:38.43\00:41:40.43 faith does not see where it's going, 00:41:40.46\00:41:45.20 but it loves the one that's leading. 00:41:45.23\00:41:49.14 And you know that, you see that. 00:41:49.17\00:41:51.27 Absolutely. 00:41:51.31\00:41:52.64 Those of us who work here at 3ABN know that, 00:41:52.67\00:41:54.48 we see that. 00:41:54.51\00:41:55.84 And I want to make this clear as well. 00:41:55.88\00:41:58.51 Because it's not just ministries like 3ABN 00:41:58.55\00:42:01.72 or our ministry Pathway to Paradise Ministries, 00:42:01.75\00:42:04.32 that God is trying to develop this faith 00:42:04.35\00:42:06.19 going forth. 00:42:06.22\00:42:07.56 It is everybody, every Christian, 00:42:07.59\00:42:10.69 the entire world needs to hear the gospel, 00:42:10.73\00:42:12.89 the whole world needs to hear the three angels' messages. 00:42:12.93\00:42:15.50 And frankly, it's a bigger job than any ministry can do. 00:42:15.53\00:42:19.37 God needs every single person involved. 00:42:19.40\00:42:21.50 There you go. 00:42:21.54\00:42:22.87 And in order for me as a person, 00:42:22.90\00:42:25.64 to share that experience with others, 00:42:25.67\00:42:27.18 I have to have it myself first. 00:42:27.21\00:42:29.38 And so God is working. 00:42:29.41\00:42:30.75 He's trying to do this in every person's life. 00:42:30.78\00:42:32.85 That's right. 00:42:32.88\00:42:34.58 Now talk about some of the needs you have 00:42:34.62\00:42:36.38 because you have the budget for the continual building, 00:42:36.42\00:42:39.69 reiterate that, what still needs to be raised? 00:42:39.72\00:42:42.99 We need $150,000 00:42:43.02\00:42:45.26 and then we'll have met our $400,000 goal. 00:42:45.29\00:42:48.13 And that's the building goal? 00:42:48.16\00:42:49.50 That's the building that included modeling, 00:42:49.53\00:42:51.53 renovation, a little bit of new construction 00:42:51.57\00:42:53.77 within the building for office spaces and studios. 00:42:53.80\00:42:56.84 Okay. All right. 00:42:56.87\00:42:58.21 Now, let's go to the next level 00:42:58.24\00:42:59.64 of what are some of the other needs? 00:42:59.67\00:43:02.01 Well, we need better equipment for recording. 00:43:02.04\00:43:06.78 We have cameras that work for us. 00:43:06.82\00:43:09.22 But we need bigger hard drives, 00:43:09.25\00:43:11.89 video files take up a lot of space. 00:43:11.92\00:43:14.42 And now, you keep using the space 00:43:14.46\00:43:16.19 and you can't reuse it if you want to save that. 00:43:16.22\00:43:17.83 So, we need some really large hard drives 00:43:17.86\00:43:22.20 that operate at the speeds you need for video editing, 00:43:22.23\00:43:25.67 as well as a new computer as well 00:43:25.70\00:43:27.94 that can handle all of that. 00:43:27.97\00:43:29.37 So those are probably our biggest needs 00:43:29.40\00:43:30.74 from the production standpoint. 00:43:30.77\00:43:32.11 Okay. 00:43:32.14\00:43:33.48 A lot of people don't understand that 00:43:33.51\00:43:34.84 because when you evolve in ministry like here at 3ABN 00:43:34.88\00:43:38.08 when we go back in the archives, 00:43:38.11\00:43:41.75 every ministry has an archive, excuse me, 00:43:41.78\00:43:44.42 and so you have to store that, you don't just, 00:43:44.45\00:43:46.05 well, we did that program, let's go and erase it. 00:43:46.09\00:43:48.32 No, that's just valuable history. 00:43:48.36\00:43:51.19 Not only in the recalling of what happened in the past, 00:43:51.23\00:43:54.50 but in fact programs 00:43:54.53\00:43:55.93 that will continue to be used in the years. 00:43:55.96\00:43:58.13 Any other particular needs you have? 00:43:58.17\00:44:00.74 Well, we're always looking for more effective ways 00:44:00.77\00:44:03.94 to get the material out. 00:44:03.97\00:44:05.31 It's one thing to produce material, 00:44:05.34\00:44:07.11 it's something else... 00:44:07.14\00:44:08.74 Well, the second half of that 00:44:08.78\00:44:10.11 is getting the material out there, 00:44:10.15\00:44:11.61 which also takes money, whether you're, 00:44:11.65\00:44:14.42 you know, mailing things to people 00:44:14.45\00:44:15.95 or if you're buying airtime for those 00:44:15.98\00:44:18.85 that, you know, the broadcast networks 00:44:18.89\00:44:20.89 and so, we need those that will partner with us 00:44:20.92\00:44:24.03 to provide the ongoing funds to get this material out, 00:44:24.06\00:44:28.33 whether it's radio, or television, 00:44:28.36\00:44:33.20 or mailing things to the local communities. 00:44:33.23\00:44:35.37 Okay. 00:44:35.40\00:44:36.74 So increasing staff eventually, building up stair, 00:44:36.77\00:44:39.77 but right now it's, as you mentioned, Pastor... 00:44:39.81\00:44:45.15 David Salazar. 00:44:45.18\00:44:46.51 Pastor David Salazar 00:44:46.55\00:44:48.02 and obviously families growing up in that area, 00:44:48.05\00:44:50.99 your wife is also and this transition, 00:44:51.02\00:44:53.99 are you far from the facility that you're presently boarding? 00:44:54.02\00:44:57.06 We're about 15 minutes away our house, 00:44:57.09\00:44:59.73 just the right distance. 00:44:59.76\00:45:01.10 Just the right distance. 00:45:01.13\00:45:02.46 Wake up in the morning, let's go out and get involved. 00:45:02.50\00:45:05.37 And the sanctuary, about what size, capacity? 00:45:05.40\00:45:09.14 I would say, it can hold about 100 people probably. 00:45:09.17\00:45:11.67 Okay. 00:45:11.71\00:45:13.04 So undoubtedly now as I'm looking 00:45:13.07\00:45:14.68 at the development of this building, 00:45:14.71\00:45:16.64 because it's an Adventist building, 00:45:16.68\00:45:18.35 because you're an Adventist, 00:45:18.38\00:45:19.78 I can't see 00:45:19.81\00:45:21.15 how it won't be open on Sabbath. 00:45:21.18\00:45:23.49 Well, I think eventually, 00:45:23.52\00:45:25.39 that certainly goal of ours is to... 00:45:25.42\00:45:29.56 You know, we've been looking 00:45:29.59\00:45:30.93 for a church to go to ourselves. 00:45:30.96\00:45:32.29 Right. 00:45:32.33\00:45:33.66 And with that church closed down, 00:45:33.70\00:45:35.03 we have to drive about an hour in any direction 00:45:35.06\00:45:36.73 to get to the nearest church. 00:45:36.77\00:45:38.10 So there's definitely a need in that community 00:45:38.13\00:45:40.94 for a Seventh-day Adventist Church, 00:45:40.97\00:45:42.77 and we hope that this can help meet that need. 00:45:42.80\00:45:44.77 Yeah, the Lord might be pushing you 00:45:44.81\00:45:46.17 in that direction next, 00:45:46.21\00:45:48.24 because Macks Creek 00:45:48.28\00:45:50.28 and I know of Missouri briefly. 00:45:50.31\00:45:54.98 I lived out there a little bit, beautiful. 00:45:55.02\00:45:57.35 And are you near the Rolling Hills? 00:45:57.39\00:45:59.32 We are. 00:45:59.35\00:46:01.42 Lake of the Ozarks has a lot of hills around it 00:46:01.46\00:46:04.49 and it's really a beautiful area. 00:46:04.53\00:46:06.80 Wow, wow. 00:46:06.83\00:46:08.16 Wonderful. 00:46:08.20\00:46:09.53 Any other needs you have? 00:46:09.56\00:46:11.03 The prayer. Prayer? 00:46:11.07\00:46:12.40 Every ministry needs prayer. 00:46:12.43\00:46:14.14 And this is really the fuel that runs ministries, 00:46:14.17\00:46:18.74 and we covet the prayers of your listeners, 00:46:18.77\00:46:22.74 you know, and our supporters, absolutely essential. 00:46:22.78\00:46:25.51 You know, prayer's really important. 00:46:25.55\00:46:27.12 But there's something that came to my mind 00:46:27.15\00:46:28.62 as I was looking at one of the earlier pictures. 00:46:28.65\00:46:31.09 I saw that beautiful brick structure out 00:46:31.12\00:46:34.72 in front of the church, 00:46:34.76\00:46:36.09 and I was thinking to myself, are you going to... 00:46:36.12\00:46:37.66 Yeah, here's this picture. 00:46:37.69\00:46:39.73 Are you going to put your sign, your name there? 00:46:39.76\00:46:43.43 Well, this is another need we have. 00:46:43.47\00:46:45.30 We do need a sign 00:46:45.33\00:46:46.67 and we will put our name out there 00:46:46.70\00:46:48.04 but that particular frame for the sign 00:46:48.07\00:46:50.41 is actually too far off the road. 00:46:50.44\00:46:52.57 And I myself have flown by it, 00:46:52.61\00:46:54.94 slammed on the brakes and had to turn around. 00:46:54.98\00:46:57.15 So we also need to move that sign out 00:46:57.18\00:46:59.48 closer to the road. 00:46:59.51\00:47:00.85 And we would love to be able to get a digital sign out there 00:47:00.88\00:47:03.45 that can really grab attention 00:47:03.49\00:47:04.89 and let people know what's going on. 00:47:04.92\00:47:06.69 Okay. 00:47:06.72\00:47:08.06 Because I know that when you talk about visibility, 00:47:08.09\00:47:10.26 the Lord puts you out there and as He says, a candle 00:47:10.29\00:47:13.70 that's lit should not be put under a bushel, 00:47:13.73\00:47:16.10 bushel will suffer. 00:47:16.13\00:47:17.47 And a city on the hills should not be hidden, 00:47:17.50\00:47:19.63 and God wants to. 00:47:19.67\00:47:21.00 And so, if you're watching, 00:47:21.04\00:47:22.37 you could tell this ministry is something that God birthed, 00:47:22.40\00:47:25.17 I believe that fully, 00:47:25.21\00:47:26.88 and Pathway to Paradise, what a name. 00:47:26.91\00:47:30.45 And we think about all the obstacles 00:47:30.48\00:47:32.28 that God has already been able to give you, 00:47:32.31\00:47:35.08 faith to challenge it, 00:47:35.12\00:47:37.12 the sacrifices you and your wife 00:47:37.15\00:47:39.49 are continuing to make. 00:47:39.52\00:47:41.16 And I think the song that we have 00:47:41.19\00:47:43.19 that just really summarizes it. 00:47:43.22\00:47:45.99 Tim, is there anything too hard for God? 00:47:46.03\00:47:49.80 And as you're watching, before we go to our news break, 00:47:49.83\00:47:52.50 I want you to listen to the song 00:47:52.53\00:47:53.87 because this is a ministry, 00:47:53.90\00:47:55.24 when God births anything, 00:47:55.27\00:47:57.51 He moves the mountains in front of it. 00:47:57.54\00:47:59.67 Listen as Pam blesses us with the challenge, 00:47:59.71\00:48:02.91 "Is Anything Too Hard For God." 00:48:02.94\00:48:04.78 It's out of your hands 00:48:14.39\00:48:16.29 You've done all you can do 00:48:16.32\00:48:21.96 You've given God your problem 00:48:22.00\00:48:25.47 It's no longer up to you 00:48:25.50\00:48:29.60 You've prayed the prayer Of faith 00:48:29.64\00:48:33.34 You're standing on God's truth 00:48:33.38\00:48:36.91 While you're waiting For an answer 00:48:36.95\00:48:40.65 He has a question for you 00:48:40.68\00:48:46.76 Is anything too hard for God? 00:48:46.79\00:48:51.99 Who's got a problem 00:48:55.00\00:48:58.10 Beyond His power to solve? 00:48:58.13\00:49:02.64 Are there situations 00:49:02.67\00:49:05.77 He's not the Master of? 00:49:05.81\00:49:09.58 Is anything too hard for God? 00:49:09.61\00:49:15.52 Only believe, Trust His word 00:49:21.26\00:49:24.66 You'll see 00:49:24.69\00:49:28.53 His plans are now unfolding 00:49:28.56\00:49:32.40 Performing perfectly 00:49:32.43\00:49:36.24 It's clear How much He loves you 00:49:36.27\00:49:40.24 Look at all He's done 00:49:40.28\00:49:43.85 For all your questions 00:49:43.88\00:49:46.75 There's really only one 00:49:46.78\00:49:53.42 Is anything Too hard for God? 00:49:53.46\00:49:58.63 Who's got a problem 00:50:01.70\00:50:04.73 Beyond His power to solve? 00:50:04.77\00:50:09.30 Are there situations 00:50:09.34\00:50:12.41 He's not the Master of? 00:50:12.44\00:50:16.24 Is anything too hard for God? 00:50:16.28\00:50:21.52 Are there situations 00:50:24.59\00:50:27.66 He's not the Master of? 00:50:27.69\00:50:31.49 Is anything 00:50:31.53\00:50:37.97 Too hard 00:50:38.00\00:50:42.40 For God? 00:50:42.44\00:50:48.54 Well, thank you so much, Pam, 00:50:52.91\00:50:54.32 my answer to the question you posed is no, 00:50:54.35\00:50:57.29 there's nothing impossible for God. 00:50:57.32\00:50:58.85 What about you, Tim? I agree. 00:50:58.89\00:51:00.66 Well, I tell you, you know, you've been watching 00:51:00.69\00:51:02.26 and listening to the program about Paradise to Path, 00:51:02.29\00:51:05.73 Pathway to Paradise Ministries, excuse me, 00:51:05.76\00:51:08.83 and God raised this ministry for such a time as this. 00:51:08.86\00:51:14.00 We talked about the building needs, 00:51:14.04\00:51:15.67 the financial project that's being built. 00:51:15.70\00:51:19.34 Also the road sign, 00:51:19.37\00:51:21.44 that we're looking forward to changing also. 00:51:21.48\00:51:24.08 And when we think about the way that God does things, 00:51:24.11\00:51:27.22 He never does things second class, 00:51:27.25\00:51:30.35 but many of you that are watching 00:51:30.39\00:51:31.72 would like to find out 00:51:31.75\00:51:33.09 how you can be supportive of this ministry, 00:51:33.12\00:51:35.49 and send your donations and go to their website. 00:51:35.52\00:51:38.29 Here is the information that you need to be a support 00:51:38.33\00:51:42.00 and carry the gospel throughout the world. 00:51:42.03\00:51:46.03 If you would like to find out more about Pathway to Paradise 00:51:46.07\00:51:48.90 and how you can support their important mission, 00:51:48.94\00:51:51.67 please visit their website, PathwayToParadise.org. 00:51:51.71\00:51:54.78 That's PathwayToParadise.org. 00:51:54.81\00:51:57.78 You may also call them at 855-447-8788. 00:51:57.81\00:52:03.75 That's 855-447-8788. 00:52:03.79\00:52:08.69 Or write to Pathway to Paradise, 00:52:08.72\00:52:11.49 PO Box 36, Macks Creek, 00:52:11.53\00:52:14.56 that's Macks Creek, 00:52:14.60\00:52:17.33 Missouri 65786. 00:52:17.37\00:52:20.84 That's Pathway to Paradise, 00:52:20.87\00:52:23.34 PO Box 36, Macks Creek, 00:52:23.37\00:52:26.57 Missouri 65786. 00:52:26.61\00:52:29.14