I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Removing pain
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Lord, let my words
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Heal a heart that hurts
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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Mending broken people
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Hello and welcome to 3ABN Today.
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We appreciate so much
that you've taken time
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out of your busy day to join us.
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We have a very,
very special program
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scheduled for you
today for all of us
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because we're gonna be talking
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about a very, very important
last day events type of topic.
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And we'll get into
that in just a few moments.
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I wanna say thank you
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for all of your
love, prayers, and support
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because without
you we wouldn't be here
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doing what we're doing
being able to preach the gospel
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to all the world.
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Again, we have a
very special topic today.
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I'm gonna give you the
title and you're gonna...
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It's gonna sound funny
I've said it several times
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to Pastor Lomacang and
he keeps saying, "What?"
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You'll know why
it's entitled this
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in just a few moments,
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but I've entitled
today's "Serpentology."
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Serpentology root word serpent,
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there is a lie
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that a serpent
told in Scripture.
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And we're gonna
read about that today.
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And the subject matter is
going to be over obviously,
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the topic of the
state of the death.
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Now you may be sitting
at home saying right now,
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you know what, I've
heard this a million times.
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I already know
the truth about it,
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but we're going to
be taking a fresh look
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at what the Bible has to
say about this special topic
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and why it's so important
for us to be discussing it
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and to know the truth
about it here in the last days.
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Before we dive deep
into this topic, though,
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I'm going to
introduce these wonderful panel,
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it's a panel of three,
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but I think we can
get the job done, right?
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Okay.
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To my right here we
have Pastor John Lomacang.
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It's a blessing
to have you, Brother.
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Good to be and it
trenches with someone
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who knows how to
sharpen the word,
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appreciate a lot.
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Amen. Praise the Lord.
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I'm gonna be excited to see
what you have prepared for us
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because when we take
on these type of subjects,
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you're like a machine gun
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and I appreciate all that
you have to bring to the table.
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Soldier of the cross. Amen.
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In a good way. In a good way.
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Praise the Lord.
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And, of course, to my left here,
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I have my brother Dakota Day.
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It's a blessing to have you.
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It's a blessing to be here.
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I appreciate the
invitation. Amen.
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You're with
Amazing Facts Ministry
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for those of may not know.
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Dakota is an evangelist
for Amazing Facts Ministry
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and you travel
full-time for the gospel
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and it's a
blessing to have you here
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to join us on
this program today.
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That's right. That's right.
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It's a blessing
to be here at 3ABN,
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with Amazing
Facts most of the time,
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so it's always a blessing
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to see our brothers
and sisters at 3ABN.
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Amen. Praise the Lord.
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Before we dive
deep into our subject,
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I'm gonna have you to
say a prayer for us, okay?
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Sure, yeah. Let's pray.
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Father in heaven, we
wanna thank You so much,
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Lord, for waking
us up this morning
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and breathing
Your breath of life
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into us again,
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that we would be able to, Lord,
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to come together
and study Your Word.
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Lord, that we
will not be deceived
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by any kind of serpentology,
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but Lord that we would
have Your true theology,
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Lord, the study of Your
Word in our hearts in our minds.
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So give us a spirit,
Your spirit now as we pray
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and as we study Your Word.
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Lord, that we may be led
and guided into all truth.
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We ask this in Jesus'
holy precious name, amen.
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Amen. Praise the Lord.
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I like what you said
in your prayer there.
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You know, that we
may not be deceived
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by serpentology,
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but theology or
by biblical theology,
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because we want to know
what the Bible actually says
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about this topic
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that we're gonna be
talking about today.
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And what kind of sparked me
to entitle it Serpentology is
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as you're gonna see
in just a few moments,
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we're gonna dive
deep into this subject.
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And we're gonna talk
about the very first lie
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that was ever
recorded in Scripture
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and told by a serpent
and we know that serpent,
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to be none other,
as the Bible says,
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"The devil himself."
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And that lie you
would say, you know what?
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That's an old lie.
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It's not that big
of a deal anymore.
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It was told
nearly 7,000 years ago,
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6,000 years ago,
but you know what?
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We still see that
the effects of that lie,
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the effects of that deception
is still at work today,
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probably
stronger than ever before.
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I wanna start reading
and kind of open us up
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and launches into this
subject with a couple of texts,
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one from the Bible
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and one from a book
called The Great Controversy.
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Let's start first
in Revelation 16:13-14.
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And, of course, after I read
these opening text, gentlemen,
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I'm gonna pitch it to you.
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And we're gonna
dive deep into this.
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Revelation
16:13-14, the Bible says,
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and John is in vision,
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and this comes
within the context
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of the seven last plagues
that will come upon this earth,
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but notice what the Bible
says in beginning in verse 13,
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it says, "And I saw
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three unclean spirits like frogs
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coming out of the
mouth of the dragon,
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out of the mouth of the beast,
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and out of the mouth
of the false prophet.
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For they are spirits of
demons, performing signs,
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which go out to
the kings of the earth
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and to the whole world,
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to gather them to the battle
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of the great day
of God Almighty."
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So just as the
spirit of the devil
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was at work in the beginning,
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we see that John saw in vision
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very vividly
for these last days,
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that there are spirits of demons
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still performing
miracles, signs, and wonders
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in these last days,
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and trying to deceive
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millions and millions
of millions of people.
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Now I'm gonna
tie that with a text
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that many of us have
probably heard before,
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someone might not.
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This comes from
The Great Controversy,
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page 588.
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And it's a very
powerful statement.
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Notice what this says.
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It says, "Through
the two great errors,
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the immortality of the
soul and Sunday sacredness,
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Satan will bring the
people under his deceptions.
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While the former lays the
foundation of spiritualism,
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the latter creates a
bond of sympathy with Rome.
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The Protestants
of the United States
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will be foremost in
stretching their hand
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across the gulf to grasp
the hand of spiritualism,
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they will reach over
the abyss to clasp hands
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with the Roman power,
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and under the influence
of this threefold union,
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this country will
follow in the steps of Rome
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and trampling on the
rights of conscience."
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Now there's a lot
to unfold and unpack
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from just that one text there,
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but it's
interesting that she says
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under this threefold union
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and she includes
spiritualism, Pastor,
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she includes spiritualism.
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Spiritualism, of course is
the belief of an afterlife,
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the immortality of the soul
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and beyond the point of death
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in which persons can communicate
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with spirits of dead people.
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And we want to unpack this topic
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because as we're about to
show in just a few moments,
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the devil told the first
lie ever recorded in Scripture
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in relation to death,
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"You shall not surely die."
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We'll reference that again,
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but what really
sparked my attention
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to bring this topic
about for us to discuss
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is recently on the
news, you start to see,
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you know, some significant
influential people have passed,
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have died.
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I'm thinking of
in recent months,
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you know, you're
looking at Kobe Bryant,
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the famous basketball star.
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Now, you know,
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Kobe Bryant was one of my
favorite basketball players
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growing up, but I
remember my Facebook
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and social
media flooded, Pastor.
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Me and Dakota
both talked about this,
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you know, Kobe
Bryant's in heaven,
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he's looking down, him
and his daughters up there
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and just concept
that there's a life
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beyond the point
of death in this life.
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I also think of, you know,
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in recent times, Little Richard,
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Little Richard passed.
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And again, many people stating,
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"Oh, he's in heaven
looking down upon us.
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That man is with the Lord today.
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He's went home to
be with the Lord."
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And you hear
these type of things,
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and then, of
course, in very recent time,
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we've seen even
the famous apologists,
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Christian apologist
Ravi Zacharias passing,
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of course, I saw on
my social media lit up,
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this man has now
went to be with the Lord.
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And I know that
people are making these faith
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based statements,
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but, Pastor, I wanna
pitch it to, you guys,
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'cause we're talking about
the immortality of the soul.
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What is the soul?
What is the spirit?
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Let's start there.
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Is this biblical?
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When we hear people say
that someone has passed on
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or they've went on to
heaven to be with the Lord
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and they're
looking down upon us?
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Is this biblical?
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Does a soul go on to
be with God in heaven
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after they die?
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And does their spirit
go on to be with the Lord
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after they die?
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What is the soul?
What is the spirit?
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I'm gonna pitch it to, you guys.
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Let's dive deep into this.
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Well, part of the quandary
comes out of the translation
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that people often find
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their doctrinal
information from.
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There's a Bible
text in Genesis 2:7,
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which I'll go to that first.
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And the King James Version,
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the New King James
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and the New
International Version,
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they vary on the word soul being
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is the next to
transition used word being,
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but the word soul
has metamorphosized
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into something
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that the Bible never
initialized it to be.
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And there's a teaching,
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you might look this up
a very interesting study,
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Neoplatonism.
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This Neoplatonistic ideology
was inserted into Christianity,
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even before Christianity
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inserted into the
Greco-Roman Empire,
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where the Jewish Church existed,
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and even the Jews were
affected by this belief.
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One of the examples
in Scripture we find
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is in John 11,
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where Jesus
stayed away for four days
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where instead of
going immediately
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to resurrect Lazarus,
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He heard Lazarus was sicken,
then He said to His disciples,
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plainly, Lazarus is dead.
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When He got there, Martha said,
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"You know, if you had been here,
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my brother would not have died."
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Well, the question is,
and many people don't ask,
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why did Jesus stay
away for four days?
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Because the belief was
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in the Neoplatonistic
School of Theology
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that the soul they believe
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tried incessantly to
get back into the body
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for three days and if it didn't,
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then the body
would begin to decay.
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That's why the
Bible talked about Jesus
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spending only three days
and three nights in the jail.
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And because He
didn't see corruption,
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that's when corruption
began to kick in the fourth day.
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And they will convince
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that if the fourth day occurred,
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and He wasn't
raised, then, you know,
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He's definitely
not gonna get a chance
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to come forward
in the resurrection.
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And that's why
Jesus came forth and said,
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"I am the
resurrection and the life."
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He said that in John
11 to Mary and to Martha,
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almost specifically to Martha,
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but Genesis 2:7 says,
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and we have to
look at what a soul is
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to really
establish the reality here.
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Genesis 2:7, I'm
reading the King James Version.
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The Bible says,
"And the Lord God
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formed man of the
dust of the ground,
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and breathed into his
nostrils the breath of life,
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and man became a living soul."
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So notice the two combinations,
we have the dust of the ground,
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and then the dust of the ground
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is the formation
of the human body.
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All of its cells and organs,
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everything that's
encapsulated as my good friend
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who is a forensic pathologist,
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who does
autopsies, he says, "You know,
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when you open up a
person who has passed,
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it's a gruesome thought,
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and they begin to exam
the reason why they died."
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This is to see so many evidences
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as to what could
have caused the death.
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But the body is
there, but where is the soul?
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So people ask the question.
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Well, let's go ahead
and eliminate the word soul.
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And when you read
Genesis 2:7 in the end
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in the New King James version,
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which version do
you have, Dakota?
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King James. Okay. King James.
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Ryan? Yes.
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So I have the New
King James Version.
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Okay, read that.
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And it says, "And
the Lord God formed man
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of the dust of the ground,
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and breathed into his
nostrils the breath of life,
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and man became a living,"
instead of soul its mine says,
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"being," a living being.
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So the combination of
the dust of the ground
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plus the breath of
life makes it very clear.
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Now, Dakota, go to Job 27:3.
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Job 27:3. Job 27:3.
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Read that for me
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because when the Lord
breathed into Adam's nostrils,
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Adam became a living soul.
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He did something for
Adam to become a living soul.
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That's right.
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Job 27:3 says,
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"All the while
my breath is in me,
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and the spirit of
God is in my nostrils."
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Okay, how did he get there?
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Because God
breathed into his nostrils
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the breath of life.
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He put it that was the avenue
to insert that spark of life.
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Now I can't breathe
into anybody's nostrils
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and give them
the breath of life.
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You know, they
might run if, you know,
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I don't even go down that path
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because it could be so gruesome,
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but only God's
breath can give us life.
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So now let's look at
the opposite of life.
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Ecclesiastes 12:7.
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Notice all these
verses, Ecclesiastes 12:7,
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and read this is...
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It doesn't
matter the translation.
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Sure. But...
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So Ecclesiastes 12:7 says,
this is a popular one here,
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"Then the dust will
return to the earth as it was,
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and the spirit will
return to God who gave it."
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Okay, now here, let's go ahead
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and take this
whole ideology together.
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There you go. And say
the spirit is the soul.
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Well, that would mean
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that Adam
existed in heaven first
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and he came down
and got into this body.
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And when the body died,
Adam went back to heaven.
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It doesn't say that,
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it says the spirit
returned to God's who gave.
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The spirit returns
to God who gave it.
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Clearly, what is
the spirit that returns?
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Dakota made it
clear, the breath of life.
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God is the author,
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the owner of the breath of life.
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That's right.
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So nothing returns to
heaven, but lastly, Psalm 146:4,
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Dakota read that for me?
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Psalm 146:4. Psalm 146:4?
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Yeah.
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You know, while
he's finding that,
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I just have to say,
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it's interesting
that many people will say,
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you know, when a person dies,
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while their spirit
went to be with Jesus,
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and they're thinking of a ghost,
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like a ghostly
apparition of some sort,
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somehow is liberated
or separated from the body
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at the point of death,
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but what we're
showing here is obviously,
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biblically
speaking, the Spirit of God,
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according to the Bible,
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is the breath of
life that God gives,
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not some ghostly person
that lives within us, right?
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And that comes from the word
nephesh, you know, or pneuma.
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You have those two
words, the Greek and the Hebrew,
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but now look at Psalm 146:4,
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this settles the reality
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as to what happens
when a person dies.
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Okay, read that.
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It says, "His
breath goeth forth,
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he returneth to his earth,
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in that very day
his thoughts perish."
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Okay, in that very day.
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Now his version he's
reading King James it says
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his breath goes forth...
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There you go.
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New King James version
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which is again a
similar translation.
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It says, "His spirit
departs." That's right.
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Okay.
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So there's a correlation
there, spirit and breath.
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Same thing. That's right.
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Whatever the...
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And in the Hebrew
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those are the
same identical words.
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So His spirit
departs, but what happens?
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He returns to his earth. Right.
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In that very day
his thoughts perish.
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That's why paramedics
when a person is near death,
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keep them
alive, put that oxygen,
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make sure that his
breath doesn't leave his body
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because then everything ceases.
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I have many more,
but I'm gonna head and...
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No, I think we've
somewhat answered that.
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Dakota, I wanna kick it to
you now for this next question.
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And if you have anything
to say on what we just said,
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you can sure add this.
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I think we've
answered this clearly already
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as far as what the spirit is,
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you know,
obviously the breath of life.
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You know what a soul is?
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The soul is the
combination of body plus breath.
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There's no such
thing really in the Bible
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as a dead soul,
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you know, there could
only be one type of soul
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and it's a living soul,
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but I just wanted for the
sake of this particular topic
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we have to ask the
question, is a soul immortal?
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Because most people
believe in this since
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the soul is a
person, a ghostly person,
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an identification
that lives within you,
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does that soul live on forever
we've kind of already answered,
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but I wanna kind
of nail that down,
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I'm gonna pitch to Dakota
and, Pastor, you can give...
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Yeah, go ahead.
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Just before you do that
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because I wanna
make a clarification,
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I know you mean
there's no such thing
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as a dead soul
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meaning a soul that
separates from the body,
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but the Bible does
say in Ecclesiastes 18:4,
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"The soul that
sinneth, it shall die."
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It shall die. Right.
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And there's no such
thing as an immortal soul.
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Right.
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So a dead soul,
what I mean by that
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was a dead soul in the sense
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that a dead person
continues to live on
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as a dead, but yet living soul.
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That's not biblical.
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Okay. I got it.
Absolutely. Absolutely.
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So, Dakota, is
the soul immortal?
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What does the Bible
have to say about this?
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The Bible is very clear on this.
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You read in 1 Timothy 6:15-16
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that God alone has
immortality, right?
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And that again,
that's 1 Timothy 6:15-16.
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God alone has immortality.
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So we did not
receive immortality
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until later which
we'll get to that,
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but that's at the
Second Coming of Jesus,
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but nevertheless,
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as Pastor quoted
Ezekiel 18:4, it says,
00:17:17.17\00:17:19.20
"The soul that
sinneth, it shall die." Right.
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"The wages of
sin is death." Right.
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Romans 6:23.
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And oftentimes, when
I'm studying with this
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with someone
that become confused
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about death,
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you know, they tend to
think that when we die,
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we really don't die,
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our spirit or ghostly apparition
00:17:35.25\00:17:36.99
that God put inside of
us float somewhere else.
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And we've
already dismantled that
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and the understanding
that when God made man
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from the very beginning,
He did not put inside of him,
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a ghostly apparition,
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and then that
made Adam come to life,
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but instead, He
breathed into his nostrils,
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and then man
became a living soul.
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So understanding that
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we have to understand
that life comes from God
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and God alone.
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And so when we die,
"The wages of sin is death, "
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according to Romans 6:23.
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So we know that when we
die, we actually do die.
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And this is where your
idea for the sermon title comes
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Serpentology is because
we know that that first lie
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that we looked at
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or that we're gonna look at
even more in Genesis Chapter 3,
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really originated with a devil
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when he said that
you shall not surely die.
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Why don't we go
there and read that, right,
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just to set the foundation.
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So Genesis 3,
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and pastor gave us
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a beautiful kind
of historical basis
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on where this idea
of the immortal soul
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or the immortality of the soul
comes from the Neoplatonism,
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but biblically speaking,
who's the father of this lie?
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This idea that we continue on.
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So, Dakota,
take us to Genesis 3,
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and read those texts there?
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Yeah. So let's go
to Genesis 3 here.
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Let's pick it up.
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Let's just pick
it up in verse 1.
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Genesis 3:1, it says,
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"Now the serpent was more subtle
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than any beast of the field
which the Lord God had made.
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And he said unto the
woman, 'Yea, hath God said,
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You shall not eat of
every tree of the garden?'
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And the woman
said unto the serpent,
00:19:00.47\00:19:01.80
'We may eat of the fruit
of the trees of the garden.
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But of the fruit of the tree
00:19:03.74\00:19:05.07
which is in the
midst of the garden,
00:19:05.11\00:19:06.44
God hath said, You
shall not eat of it,
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neither shall you
touch it, lest ye die.'"
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Okay.
00:19:09.21\00:19:10.55
So the result of
eating and disobeying God
00:19:10.58\00:19:12.18
is death, right?
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And then notice
00:19:13.62\00:19:14.95
what the
serpent says in verse 4,
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"The serpent
said unto the woman,
00:19:16.35\00:19:17.69
'You shall not surely die.'"
00:19:17.72\00:19:19.05
Okay. So...
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Serpentology. Serpentology.
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Not biblical
theology, but serpentology.
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God says the
wages of disobeying Me.
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The wages of
breaking My law is death,
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I mean, it's clear
as glass right there.
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And then the serpent,
00:19:29.23\00:19:30.57
of course, being
the deceiver that he is.
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He says, "No, he's
really lying to you,
00:19:32.57\00:19:34.77
you're not really gonna die.
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You'll be like Him,
00:19:36.37\00:19:37.71
and you'll be
able to live forever
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and all of these things."
00:19:39.11\00:19:40.48
And so this serpentology, again,
00:19:40.51\00:19:43.28
originated in the Garden of Eden
00:19:43.35\00:19:44.68
with the devil,
00:19:44.71\00:19:46.05
and so many people
today are still drinking
00:19:46.08\00:19:47.62
the wine of
Babylon still drinking,
00:19:47.65\00:19:49.85
sipping back on
grandma's old cough medicine
00:19:49.88\00:19:51.79
or I guess you could say,
00:19:51.82\00:19:54.06
and so many people
were deceived by this
00:19:54.09\00:19:55.76
and I think that
00:19:55.79\00:19:57.13
and we'll get to the
details on it in a bit,
00:19:57.16\00:19:58.69
but we're going to
see that the ramifications
00:19:58.73\00:20:01.53
if you believe
something like this,
00:20:01.56\00:20:03.57
the
ramifications in the last days
00:20:03.60\00:20:05.27
that you can so easily
be deceived by the devil,
00:20:05.30\00:20:08.47
by believing the first lie
the devil ever told humanity.
00:20:08.50\00:20:11.37
Absolutely.
00:20:11.41\00:20:12.74
So the very
purpose and reasoning
00:20:12.77\00:20:14.28
behind why it's important
00:20:14.31\00:20:16.21
that we take on
such a topic, Pastor,
00:20:16.24\00:20:18.28
is the fact
00:20:18.31\00:20:19.65
that millions and millions
and millions of Christians,
00:20:19.68\00:20:22.35
billions perhaps,
00:20:22.38\00:20:24.82
have come to this understanding,
00:20:24.85\00:20:26.86
or at least this
traditional belief,
00:20:26.89\00:20:29.06
not from the Bible,
00:20:29.09\00:20:30.43
but the very
idea that after death,
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there's something else,
00:20:33.83\00:20:35.26
that there's life beyond
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and the question
we're simply addressing
00:20:36.70\00:20:38.13
and nailing down.
00:20:38.17\00:20:39.50
Obviously, we
know the Bible teaches
00:20:39.53\00:20:40.87
that the soul is not immortal.
00:20:40.94\00:20:42.40
In fact, you
referenced Ezekiel 18:4.
00:20:42.44\00:20:45.27
And what does that say again?
00:20:45.31\00:20:46.68
"The soul that
sinneth, it shall die."
00:20:46.71\00:20:48.94
It shall die.
00:20:48.98\00:20:50.35
So one could say at this point
00:20:50.38\00:20:52.01
death is
technically creation in reverse.
00:20:52.05\00:20:55.08
The best way to look at it.
00:20:55.12\00:20:56.45
That's the one
interesting way to look at it.
00:20:56.48\00:20:58.19
Do you have any final thoughts
00:20:58.22\00:20:59.55
on this immortality of the soul?
00:20:59.59\00:21:00.96
Because I'm gonna go on
to the question of the hour
00:21:00.99\00:21:02.32
in just a moment.
00:21:02.36\00:21:03.69
Okay, well, let's
look at Genesis 3:19,
00:21:03.73\00:21:06.33
just so we could
settle the issue of Adam
00:21:06.36\00:21:08.13
the very first man
00:21:08.16\00:21:09.70
because the Bible
says Adam lived 930 years
00:21:09.73\00:21:12.40
and he died.
00:21:12.43\00:21:14.14
When he died, where
did he go? There you go.
00:21:14.17\00:21:17.84
In Genesis 3:19...
00:21:17.87\00:21:19.37
Which is my next question.
00:21:19.41\00:21:20.78
Do we go anywhere
when we die, right?
00:21:20.81\00:21:22.64
Like we've
clearly communicated that
00:21:22.68\00:21:24.25
that's not possible,
00:21:24.28\00:21:25.61
but still, there's
someone gonna watch at home
00:21:25.65\00:21:27.02
that says, "Wait a
second, I still believe that,
00:21:27.05\00:21:29.28
you know,
Grandma Sally's up there
00:21:29.32\00:21:30.79
looking down upon me.
00:21:30.82\00:21:32.15
She's with Jesus right now
walking the streets of gold."
00:21:32.19\00:21:35.26
Let's nail this down. Do
we go anywhere when we die?
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Take a step. Let's see.
00:21:37.86\00:21:39.19
The Lord made it clear.
00:21:39.23\00:21:40.60
The Bible is so amazingly clear.
00:21:40.63\00:21:41.96
Look at Genesis 3:19.
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"In the sweat of
your face or brow,
00:21:44.17\00:21:46.74
you shall eat bread till
you return to the ground."
00:21:46.77\00:21:52.74
To heaven, right?
00:21:52.77\00:21:54.81
So that shows
that there was no soul
00:21:54.84\00:21:56.38
that came down, went to a body
00:21:56.41\00:21:57.85
and went back anywhere.
00:21:57.88\00:21:59.55
Nobody is in heaven now
00:21:59.58\00:22:00.92
except for the ones
that the Bible mentions,
00:22:00.95\00:22:02.28
Elijah, Noah, and
Enoch, see and, you know,
00:22:02.32\00:22:05.52
there's some suggestion
00:22:05.55\00:22:07.69
that the 24 elders were
part of the resurrection,
00:22:07.72\00:22:10.03
that when Jesus,
00:22:10.06\00:22:11.39
but outside of those who
the Bible clearly chooses
00:22:11.43\00:22:16.13
or speaks about,
00:22:16.16\00:22:17.50
it says clearly notice
what the rest of the text says.
00:22:17.57\00:22:20.44
And this is why he
returns to the ground.
00:22:20.47\00:22:22.70
"For out of it you were
taken, for dust you are,
00:22:22.74\00:22:26.78
and to dust you shall return."
00:22:26.81\00:22:29.68
I mean, how can you be
even any clearer than that.
00:22:29.71\00:22:32.35
The only other
clarity you can get
00:22:32.38\00:22:33.72
is in the Book of Job.
00:22:33.75\00:22:35.08
Let's look at Job
because Job Chapter 14,
00:22:35.12\00:22:37.89
Job Chapter 14, I mean,
it's gonna ignite you, Ryan.
00:22:37.92\00:22:41.46
I'm gonna stand back
'cause he's gonna combust.
00:22:41.49\00:22:45.43
But look at Job Chapter
14, it's amazing passage,
00:22:45.46\00:22:48.90
it talks about
this process of death
00:22:48.93\00:22:50.57
and I wanna slide into it
00:22:50.60\00:22:52.93
because Job just lays
such a beautiful foundation.
00:22:52.97\00:22:57.41
And I'm gonna
start with verse 7.
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We don't often
start with verse 7,
00:22:59.37\00:23:01.11
but verse 7 is significant.
00:23:01.14\00:23:03.48
"For there is hope for a tree,
00:23:03.55\00:23:06.41
if it is cut down,
that it will sprout again,
00:23:06.45\00:23:11.89
and that its tender
shoots will not cease.
00:23:11.92\00:23:15.02
Though its roots may
grow old in the ground,
00:23:15.06\00:23:17.66
and a stump may
die in the ground,
00:23:17.69\00:23:19.93
yet at the scent
of water it will bud
00:23:20.00\00:23:22.26
and bring forth
branches like a plant."
00:23:22.30\00:23:25.30
Now I always love that passage
00:23:25.33\00:23:27.24
because you know what it says,
00:23:27.27\00:23:28.60
the spiritual application
before it gets into death.
00:23:28.64\00:23:30.71
It says, if we look at
people and think that, you know,
00:23:30.74\00:23:34.48
they've been a
sinner for so long,
00:23:34.51\00:23:36.54
they left the
church 25, 30 years ago,
00:23:36.58\00:23:38.81
there's no way that
they could come back.
00:23:38.85\00:23:40.62
The Lord says as
long as the stump remains
00:23:40.65\00:23:42.72
in the ground
00:23:42.75\00:23:44.09
at the scent of
water, who's the water?
00:23:44.12\00:23:45.55
Jesus. That's right, Jesus.
00:23:45.59\00:23:46.96
Have to give them to just Jesus
00:23:46.99\00:23:48.96
because the
roots are still there.
00:23:48.99\00:23:50.93
What is the root
does? It sniffs for water.
00:23:50.96\00:23:53.23
And the moment it
finds it, it will bud again.
00:23:53.26\00:23:55.00
So that's hope for those
that have been away from Lord
00:23:55.03\00:23:57.57
for many years, but
here's the transition.
00:23:57.60\00:24:00.17
"But a man dies
and is laid away,
00:24:00.24\00:24:03.61
indeed he breathes his last."
00:24:03.64\00:24:05.74
And look at the question.
00:24:05.77\00:24:07.28
"Where is he?"
Dakota, pick it up.
00:24:07.31\00:24:10.95
Verse 11.
00:24:10.98\00:24:12.31
"As the waters
fail from the sea,
00:24:12.35\00:24:14.22
and the flood
decayeth and drieth up.
00:24:14.25\00:24:16.35
So man lieth down,
00:24:16.38\00:24:17.85
and riseth not till
the heavens be no more,
00:24:17.89\00:24:21.29
they shall not awake,
00:24:21.32\00:24:22.66
nor be raised
out of their sleep."
00:24:22.69\00:24:24.96
How long they're
gonna be down there?
00:24:24.99\00:24:26.33
Till the heavens are no more.
00:24:26.36\00:24:27.93
That's right.
That's heavens a new earth.
00:24:27.96\00:24:29.56
That's powerful. So
the heavens are no more.
00:24:29.60\00:24:30.97
And keep going. And verse 13.
00:24:31.00\00:24:35.57
It says, "O that thou
wouldest hide me in the grave,
00:24:35.60\00:24:38.74
that thou
wouldest keep me secret,
00:24:38.77\00:24:40.78
until thy wrath be past,
00:24:40.81\00:24:42.81
that thou wouldest
appoint me a set time,
00:24:42.84\00:24:45.58
and remember me!"
00:24:45.61\00:24:46.95
Okay, so keep me in that grave.
00:24:47.02\00:24:48.35
Job is the oldest
book in the Bible,
00:24:48.38\00:24:50.69
older than Genesis.
00:24:50.72\00:24:52.05
Job, who was an upright man
00:24:52.09\00:24:54.26
knew exactly
what was gonna happen
00:24:54.29\00:24:56.19
when you die.
00:24:56.22\00:24:57.56
Now, Ryan, pick
it up in verse 14
00:24:57.63\00:24:59.23
because he continues adding
to the clarity of what happens.
00:24:59.26\00:25:03.00
It said, I'm reading
00:25:03.03\00:25:04.37
from the New King James Version,
00:25:04.40\00:25:05.73
it says, "If a man
dies, shall he live again?
00:25:05.77\00:25:08.50
All the days of my
hard service I will wait,
00:25:08.54\00:25:11.84
till my change comes."
00:25:11.87\00:25:13.68
Okay. Verse 15.
00:25:13.71\00:25:15.04
"You shall call,
and I will answer you.
00:25:15.08\00:25:17.48
You shall desire
the work of Your hands."
00:25:17.55\00:25:19.58
Okay.
00:25:19.61\00:25:20.95
'For now You number my steps,
but do not watch over my sin."
00:25:20.98\00:25:26.12
Right, Job is saying, "Hey,
00:25:26.15\00:25:27.76
as long as I'm alive
00:25:27.79\00:25:29.12
I'm waiting till
my change comes."
00:25:29.16\00:25:30.73
When I die, I have
to go to the grave,
00:25:30.76\00:25:32.16
wait till my change comes.
00:25:32.19\00:25:33.70
Just appoint me a
set time and remember me.
00:25:33.73\00:25:35.90
And so often the thief
on the cross didn't say,
00:25:35.93\00:25:39.03
I want to be with
you in paradise today.
00:25:39.07\00:25:41.34
He said, "Remember me
when you come in your kingdom."
00:25:41.37\00:25:44.44
The same remember me
that the thief asked for
00:25:44.47\00:25:46.98
is the same
remember me that Job ask.
00:25:47.01\00:25:49.44
When you come remember me.
00:25:49.48\00:25:51.18
So I could throw you... I
could throw it back to you.
00:25:51.21\00:25:52.95
I think, I wanna give
you just to clarify here.
00:25:52.98\00:25:56.05
You know, I think
we've made this very clear,
00:25:56.08\00:25:57.75
but, you know,
there's gonna be people
00:25:57.79\00:25:59.32
that's gonna read that
text you just read earlier
00:25:59.35\00:26:00.96
in Genesis 3, and I
think it was verse 19,
00:26:00.99\00:26:03.16
where it says, you know,
unto the dust you shall return.
00:26:03.19\00:26:06.43
And I've had many
Christians say, "Right,
00:26:06.46\00:26:08.46
the body will return,
but the soul goes on."
00:26:08.50\00:26:11.33
And that's why we're
hitting this up front.
00:26:11.37\00:26:13.97
And identifying
biblically, what is a soul?
00:26:14.04\00:26:16.14
What is a spirit?
00:26:16.17\00:26:17.51
Because if you don't have
that foundational understanding
00:26:17.54\00:26:20.18
of what the Bible teaches,
00:26:20.21\00:26:21.54
in reference to the
soul and the spirit,
00:26:21.58\00:26:23.35
and if you think it's
some ghost of some sort,
00:26:23.38\00:26:25.58
then you're gonna
have a completely twisted
00:26:25.61\00:26:27.32
distorted understanding
00:26:27.35\00:26:28.68
of what the Bible
teaches about death.
00:26:28.72\00:26:30.29
And as we have
clearly studied so far,
00:26:30.32\00:26:31.95
we see that the soul
00:26:31.99\00:26:33.36
is the combination
of body and breath.
00:26:33.39\00:26:34.86
It's a living being,
we do not have a soul,
00:26:34.89\00:26:37.53
we do not possess a
soul inside, we are a soul.
00:26:37.56\00:26:41.20
And, of course, a
soul, a living being can die,
00:26:41.23\00:26:43.37
which is why it says
the soul that sinneth,
00:26:43.40\00:26:45.20
Ezekiel 18:4, it shall die.
00:26:45.23\00:26:48.07
And the spirit, of course,
00:26:48.10\00:26:49.44
is none other than
the breath of life,
00:26:49.47\00:26:50.81
which returns to the Lord.
00:26:50.84\00:26:52.17
I'm thinking
00:26:52.21\00:26:53.58
of another
great example of this.
00:26:53.61\00:26:55.31
If indeed...
00:26:55.34\00:26:56.68
And I'm sure when you showed
another biblical example here
00:26:56.75\00:26:58.11
and I'm gonna throw
this to Dakota for him
00:26:58.15\00:26:59.48
to talk a little about this.
00:26:59.51\00:27:01.52
If we go to heaven when we die?
00:27:01.55\00:27:03.15
I'm just
speaking hypothetically,
00:27:03.18\00:27:05.02
I would expect it
00:27:05.05\00:27:06.42
if I died right
now went to heaven.
00:27:06.45\00:27:08.59
Again, this is an example.
00:27:08.62\00:27:10.76
I would expect to see
a lot of people there.
00:27:10.83\00:27:13.40
One of those people
00:27:13.43\00:27:14.76
would probably be
King David, right?
00:27:14.80\00:27:16.60
I would expect, the Bible says
00:27:16.67\00:27:18.00
that he's a man after
God's own heart, right?
00:27:18.03\00:27:19.57
I mean, this is a man
00:27:19.60\00:27:20.94
that while he had
troubles and trials,
00:27:20.97\00:27:22.30
and, you know, he was a sinner,
00:27:22.34\00:27:23.71
he was a man
after God's own heart.
00:27:23.74\00:27:25.41
He asked for forgiveness.
00:27:25.44\00:27:26.88
The Lord transformed this man
00:27:26.91\00:27:28.94
before he expired on this earth.
00:27:28.98\00:27:31.28
So I would expect
that of all people,
00:27:31.31\00:27:32.78
he would probably
be in heaven, right?
00:27:32.81\00:27:34.45
Now it's interesting
because if you fast forward
00:27:34.48\00:27:37.32
about 1,000 years or
so, after David dies,
00:27:37.39\00:27:40.66
you're gonna
come in the scripture
00:27:40.69\00:27:42.09
to the day of Pentecost.
00:27:42.12\00:27:43.66
Dakota, I want to,
00:27:43.73\00:27:45.06
want you to take
us to Acts Chapter 2,
00:27:45.09\00:27:46.43
we're gonna read
verses 29 and 34.
00:27:46.46\00:27:48.60
Let's unpack this here
00:27:48.63\00:27:49.96
because there's
something revealed to us here
00:27:50.00\00:27:51.77
about King David.
00:27:51.80\00:27:53.13
Acts 2:29, 34.
00:27:53.17\00:27:55.40
Peter has been preaching.
00:27:55.44\00:27:56.81
Preaching, yeah,
00:27:56.84\00:27:58.17
he's been
preaching his heart out
00:27:58.21\00:27:59.54
telling them about Jesus Christ.
00:27:59.57\00:28:00.91
And he basically gets to a part
00:28:00.94\00:28:02.28
where he's talking
about the patriarch David.
00:28:02.31\00:28:04.15
And he says in verse
29, "Men and brethren,
00:28:04.18\00:28:05.65
let me freely speak unto
you of the patriarch David,
00:28:05.68\00:28:07.88
that he is both dead and buried,
00:28:07.92\00:28:09.28
and his sepulcher is
with us unto this day."
00:28:09.32\00:28:12.05
So he very clearly says
here, he's dead, he's buried,
00:28:12.09\00:28:15.06
his tomb still remains with us.
00:28:15.09\00:28:16.93
And then notice verse 34.
00:28:16.96\00:28:18.46
When you go down, he says,
00:28:18.49\00:28:19.83
"For David is not
ascended into the heavens."
00:28:19.86\00:28:22.30
So it's very clear
here that when we die,
00:28:22.33\00:28:25.00
we don't go straight to
heaven or straight to hell,
00:28:25.03\00:28:27.44
but we are in the grave,
and we remain as Job says here,
00:28:27.47\00:28:31.07
I just wanted to cover
this one here in Job 21:32.
00:28:31.11\00:28:33.78
It says, "Yet shall he
be brought to the grave,
00:28:33.81\00:28:35.61
and shall remain in the tomb."
00:28:35.64\00:28:37.98
So when we die,
00:28:38.01\00:28:39.35
we're brought to the
grave, we remain in the tomb,
00:28:39.38\00:28:40.72
and we await
00:28:40.75\00:28:42.08
the Second
Coming of Jesus Christ,
00:28:42.12\00:28:43.49
as Christians as believers.
00:28:43.52\00:28:45.19
And I just wanna talk
about another verse here.
00:28:45.22\00:28:46.69
We talked about do we
go anywhere when we die?
00:28:46.76\00:28:49.12
I think understanding
what Jesus had to say
00:28:49.16\00:28:51.19
about this is paramount
because in John 5:28-29.
00:28:51.23\00:28:55.00
There we are. Jesus
makes it very clear.
00:28:55.03\00:28:57.07
"Marvel not at this
for the hour is coming,
00:28:57.10\00:28:59.40
which all that are in the graves
00:28:59.43\00:29:01.00
shall come forth."
00:29:01.04\00:29:02.67
So let's stop for a moment.
00:29:02.70\00:29:04.37
He's saying the hour is coming,
00:29:04.41\00:29:06.57
in which all
that are in the graves
00:29:06.61\00:29:08.41
shall hear His voice,
00:29:08.44\00:29:09.78
means those that
are in the graves,
00:29:09.81\00:29:11.15
and we're talking
about 4,000 years has passed.
00:29:11.18\00:29:13.62
And so when Jesus
00:29:13.65\00:29:14.98
is actually
speaking these words,
00:29:15.02\00:29:16.35
4000 years, a lot
of people have died,
00:29:16.38\00:29:17.72
been in the graves.
00:29:17.75\00:29:19.09
He says the hour is coming
00:29:19.12\00:29:20.46
in which those
that are in the graves,
00:29:20.49\00:29:21.82
He didn't say they
were in heaven or hell.
00:29:21.86\00:29:23.63
He said, they shall come forth,
00:29:23.66\00:29:24.99
and they shall hear His voice,
00:29:25.03\00:29:26.59
means they haven't came
forth and went anywhere yet,
00:29:26.63\00:29:28.73
and they haven't
yet heard His voice.
00:29:28.76\00:29:30.60
And it goes on to say here,
He says, "And shall come forth,
00:29:30.67\00:29:34.14
they that have done good,
unto the resurrection of life,
00:29:34.17\00:29:36.91
and they that have done evil,
00:29:36.94\00:29:38.27
unto the
resurrection of damnation."
00:29:38.31\00:29:39.71
So we see that
Jesus made it very clear
00:29:39.74\00:29:42.61
those that are in the
graves have not went forth
00:29:42.64\00:29:44.61
and they have
not heard His voice,
00:29:44.65\00:29:45.98
but they will
in the resurrection
00:29:46.01\00:29:48.55
that will take place at
the Second Coming of Jesus,
00:29:48.58\00:29:50.72
those that have done good
unto the resurrection of life,
00:29:50.79\00:29:52.65
and then later
those that have done evil
00:29:52.69\00:29:54.49
unto the
resurrection of damnation.
00:29:54.52\00:29:55.86
So if they're already in hell,
and they're already in heaven,
00:29:55.89\00:29:58.59
why is there a resurrection?
00:29:58.63\00:30:00.00
Right. That's a good point.
00:30:00.03\00:30:02.13
And another
text, Revelation 22:12.
00:30:02.16\00:30:08.07
Yes. There you go. That's right.
00:30:08.10\00:30:09.50
"Behold, I come quickly,
and my reward is with Me,
00:30:09.54\00:30:13.48
to give to every man
00:30:13.51\00:30:14.88
according as his work shall be."
00:30:14.91\00:30:16.95
Now, I'm coming
00:30:16.98\00:30:19.01
and I'm bringing
my reward with me.
00:30:19.05\00:30:21.28
Well, according
to the common belief,
00:30:21.32\00:30:23.52
the reward was given
at the time of death.
00:30:23.59\00:30:25.65
That's not the case.
00:30:25.69\00:30:27.06
The
resurrection, you just talked
00:30:27.09\00:30:28.42
about the two resurrections
00:30:28.46\00:30:29.79
and what has happened
in the Christian world,
00:30:29.82\00:30:31.36
death has become
an alternate route.
00:30:31.39\00:30:33.90
Death has become
an alternate route
00:30:33.93\00:30:36.20
as that game in Monopoly,
00:30:36.23\00:30:37.57
you know, you're
not going to jail,
00:30:37.60\00:30:40.37
go pass and collect $200.
00:30:40.44\00:30:42.47
No, when you die you
cannot go past the grave.
00:30:42.50\00:30:45.64
You go to the grave,
the grave is my house.
00:30:45.67\00:30:48.31
Job made it clear
that grave is my house.
00:30:48.34\00:30:50.48
That also takes care of
the home going services.
00:30:50.55\00:30:53.11
The only home you
go into the grave,
00:30:53.15\00:30:54.58
the grave is my house.
00:30:54.62\00:30:55.95
The Bible makes
it very, very clear,
00:30:55.98\00:30:57.75
but I'm gonna
show you another text.
00:30:57.79\00:30:59.42
We often go to Ezekiel
18:4, but go to Joshua 11:11.
00:30:59.45\00:31:03.73
Okay, all right. Joshua 11:11.
00:31:03.76\00:31:05.66
I want this specifically, I
wanna have Dakota read this.
00:31:05.69\00:31:08.16
Joshua 11:11.
00:31:08.20\00:31:10.17
Because the King
James Version is the version
00:31:10.20\00:31:12.37
that often uses the
word soul repeatedly.
00:31:12.40\00:31:15.27
And a lot of times people tend
to take them out of context.
00:31:15.30\00:31:18.21
And then, Ryan,
I'm gonna have you
00:31:18.24\00:31:19.57
read Matthew 28:10.
00:31:19.61\00:31:21.51
Right, okay.
00:31:21.54\00:31:22.88
Because these are two
verses that we have to clarify
00:31:22.91\00:31:25.38
because people
read what it says,
00:31:25.41\00:31:27.02
but they make people read,
00:31:27.05\00:31:29.68
and they get
settled with what they heard
00:31:29.72\00:31:31.62
rather than what
it actually said.
00:31:31.65\00:31:33.36
So we're in Joshua, right?
00:31:33.39\00:31:35.19
Joshua 11:11.
00:31:35.22\00:31:36.93
Joshua 11:11 says,
00:31:36.96\00:31:38.46
"And they smote all the souls
00:31:38.49\00:31:40.80
that were therein
with the edge of the sword,
00:31:40.83\00:31:43.87
utterly destroying them,
00:31:43.90\00:31:45.80
there was not
any left to breathe,
00:31:45.83\00:31:48.57
and he burnt Hazor with fire."
00:31:48.60\00:31:51.21
Okay, notice what happened.
00:31:51.24\00:31:52.77
What happened to all the souls?
00:31:52.81\00:31:54.58
They were destroyed.
00:31:54.61\00:31:56.31
And not only were they destroyed
00:31:56.34\00:31:57.68
to be redundant,
00:31:57.71\00:31:59.05
nobody was left to
breathe, all the souls.
00:31:59.08\00:32:02.82
This was a battle Israel,
00:32:02.85\00:32:04.22
and then the
value of Hazor here.
00:32:04.29\00:32:06.09
They're talking
about the end result
00:32:06.12\00:32:07.46
of this battle.
00:32:07.49\00:32:08.82
All the souls that
went up against God,
00:32:08.86\00:32:11.16
what happened to them all?
00:32:11.19\00:32:12.53
They were all utterly destroyed,
00:32:12.56\00:32:15.50
and none of them
are left to breathe.
00:32:15.53\00:32:17.70
Once again, evidence
that the soul is not immortal
00:32:17.73\00:32:20.94
because all the souls died.
00:32:20.97\00:32:22.30
And by the way,
the word soul there,
00:32:22.34\00:32:24.11
once again simply
means all the humanity
00:32:24.14\00:32:26.54
that went against God,
00:32:26.57\00:32:27.91
every person that
was in that battle died,
00:32:27.94\00:32:30.65
and none of them
were left to breathe.
00:32:30.68\00:32:32.15
That's what happens when we die.
00:32:32.18\00:32:33.72
None of us are left to breathe,
00:32:33.75\00:32:35.55
but now what
happens if a person dies
00:32:35.58\00:32:37.39
in a plane crash or somebody,
00:32:37.42\00:32:39.92
a tyrant says,
00:32:39.95\00:32:41.79
which was the case
during the Holocaust?
00:32:41.82\00:32:43.86
Many people were,
00:32:43.93\00:32:45.26
it's a sad way
to think about it.
00:32:45.29\00:32:47.40
They were killed in
these fiery furnaces.
00:32:47.43\00:32:50.97
Look at Matthew 28.
00:32:51.00\00:32:52.90
Matthew 28,
verse, what verse is it?
00:32:52.93\00:32:54.84
Matthew 28:10.
00:32:54.87\00:32:56.81
All right,
Matthew 28:10 says here,
00:32:56.84\00:33:01.28
"Then Jesus said to
them, 'Do not be afraid.
00:33:01.31\00:33:03.38
Go and tell My
brethren to go to Galilee,
00:33:03.45\00:33:05.95
and there they will see Me.'"
00:33:05.98\00:33:07.78
Did I say Matthew 28:10?
Okay, no, that's not the one.
00:33:07.82\00:33:10.49
Matthew 20. Matthew 20.
00:33:10.52\00:33:12.59
Go to Matthew
20. Okay, Matthew 20.
00:33:12.62\00:33:15.19
All right, I'm there.
00:33:15.22\00:33:16.56
Because, yeah, there now, okay.
00:33:16.59\00:33:19.43
And we're talking
about the difference
00:33:19.46\00:33:20.96
between the soul and
the body, here it is.
00:33:21.00\00:33:25.53
Have it right here in my notes.
00:33:25.57\00:33:27.54
Okay, here it is.
00:33:27.57\00:33:28.90
So when the Lord compares
what happens when a person dies
00:33:28.94\00:33:32.54
in comparison to what
happens when a person is alive.
00:33:32.57\00:33:36.95
The fear has been...
00:33:36.98\00:33:39.45
"Do not fear him
00:33:39.48\00:33:40.82
who is able to destroy the body,
00:33:40.85\00:33:43.52
but not able to
destroy the soul.
00:33:43.59\00:33:46.62
Fear him who is able to destroy
both body and soul in hell."
00:33:46.65\00:33:50.33
Okay, all right. Okay.
00:33:50.36\00:33:52.19
And so if body and soul
00:33:52.23\00:33:55.63
can be destroyed in hell,
00:33:55.66\00:33:59.67
then the body and the
soul are not immortal.
00:33:59.70\00:34:03.14
That's right. That's right.
00:34:03.17\00:34:04.51
Absolutely.
00:34:04.54\00:34:05.87
And you said, you
used the word destroy.
00:34:05.91\00:34:07.28
Right.
00:34:07.31\00:34:08.64
I mean, that
means no longer exists.
00:34:08.68\00:34:10.01
So this, you're
talking about Matthew 10:28?
00:34:10.05\00:34:11.38
Matthew 10:28.
00:34:11.41\00:34:12.75
You had them
backwards, but that's right.
00:34:12.78\00:34:14.12
So the Bible
says in Matthew 10:28,
00:34:14.15\00:34:15.48
"And do not fear
those who kill the body
00:34:15.52\00:34:17.59
but cannot kill the soul.
00:34:17.62\00:34:19.29
But rather fear Him
who is able to destroy
00:34:19.32\00:34:21.59
both soul and body in hell."
00:34:21.62\00:34:23.56
Right. And so you
see the difference.
00:34:23.63\00:34:24.96
I had a dyslexic moment there,
which happens periodically.
00:34:24.99\00:34:28.56
I got you. But
notice what happened.
00:34:28.60\00:34:30.17
And so, a lot of
people hear the first part,
00:34:30.20\00:34:32.63
don't fear
00:34:32.67\00:34:34.34
those who are able
to destroy the body,
00:34:34.37\00:34:36.40
but not able to
destroy the soul.
00:34:36.44\00:34:38.17
Let me tell you
what the Bible means.
00:34:38.21\00:34:39.67
If somebody
decides to incinerate you,
00:34:39.71\00:34:44.25
will you come forth
in the resurrection?
00:34:44.28\00:34:47.02
Well, of course. Of course.
00:34:47.05\00:34:49.25
But now which
death is there no return?
00:34:49.28\00:34:53.66
Go to Revelation 20:6.
00:34:53.69\00:34:56.32
Which death is there no return?
00:34:56.36\00:34:58.03
That's right.
00:34:58.06\00:34:59.39
And you know the
answer. That's right.
00:34:59.43\00:35:00.80
It is the second death,
Revelation 20:10, you said?
00:35:00.83\00:35:03.77
No, Revelation
20:6. Oh, verse 6.
00:35:03.80\00:35:07.14
Okay, Revelation 20:6,
00:35:07.17\00:35:09.34
"Blessed and holy
is he who has part
00:35:09.37\00:35:11.41
in the first resurrection.
00:35:11.44\00:35:13.11
Over such the
second death has no power,
00:35:13.14\00:35:16.01
but they shall be
priests of God and of Christ,
00:35:16.04\00:35:18.15
and shall reign with
Him a thousand years."
00:35:18.18\00:35:19.51
Okay, so notice what?
00:35:19.55\00:35:20.92
So when Jesus said to Martha,
00:35:20.95\00:35:22.35
he who liveth and
believeth in Me shall never die.
00:35:22.38\00:35:25.39
That's another one of
those texts that people say,
00:35:25.42\00:35:26.99
"See, he'll never die."
00:35:27.06\00:35:28.39
That's the second death.
00:35:28.42\00:35:29.76
And I just wanna bring it out.
00:35:29.79\00:35:31.13
So you're talking
about the second death,
00:35:31.16\00:35:32.49
which is the
ultimate destruction
00:35:32.53\00:35:33.90
of the wicked, the second death.
00:35:33.93\00:35:35.26
What is death by definition?
00:35:35.30\00:35:36.77
It is the absence
of life. Thank you.
00:35:36.80\00:35:39.57
The absence of
life, there's no life.
00:35:39.60\00:35:41.80
There's no life there.
00:35:41.84\00:35:43.17
So when Jesus said,
"The wages of sin is death,
00:35:43.20\00:35:46.44
" through His servant Paul,
00:35:46.47\00:35:47.81
He was making
it very clear that,
00:35:47.84\00:35:49.48
you know, and I oftentimes
thought about this, that too.
00:35:49.51\00:35:52.81
You know, there's
people that have doubted
00:35:52.85\00:35:54.32
Jesus' resurrection
and His death, right?
00:35:54.35\00:35:57.49
Think about
this. Think about this.
00:35:57.52\00:36:01.39
When we die, we
don't really die,
00:36:01.42\00:36:03.16
we go somewhere else,
then Jesus didn't really die.
00:36:03.19\00:36:06.26
Right.
00:36:06.29\00:36:07.80
Then we can't say
that His sacrifice
00:36:07.83\00:36:09.46
was really that
great of a sacrifice,
00:36:09.50\00:36:11.87
but if indeed He actually died,
00:36:11.90\00:36:14.70
that our Creator died for
us, and paid the penalty for us.
00:36:14.74\00:36:19.31
Now there's an issue.
00:36:19.34\00:36:20.88
Now we can say, "Okay,
wow, that's a sacrifice.
00:36:20.91\00:36:23.58
That's powerful."
00:36:23.65\00:36:24.98
Very legitimate.
00:36:25.01\00:36:26.35
So yeah, I
think that's powerful.
00:36:26.38\00:36:27.72
I have to ask
the question, though.
00:36:27.75\00:36:29.08
Hey, we don't run
past what you just said.
00:36:29.12\00:36:30.45
Because this past,
you know, it is powerful
00:36:30.49\00:36:31.92
because if Jesus
never really died,
00:36:31.95\00:36:34.16
then the wages for
sin were never paid.
00:36:34.19\00:36:36.49
That's right. Sure.
00:36:36.52\00:36:37.86
That's right. He
never really died.
00:36:37.89\00:36:39.23
That's right.
00:36:39.26\00:36:40.60
The wages were never paid,
00:36:40.63\00:36:41.96
but if He did die,
then the wages were paid.
00:36:42.00\00:36:44.93
We are redeemed.
00:36:44.97\00:36:46.84
But if He never died,
we are yet not redeemed.
00:36:46.87\00:36:49.57
That's right.
Very important point.
00:36:49.60\00:36:50.94
Amen. Praise God.
00:36:50.97\00:36:52.31
But, Pastor,
there's gonna be someone...
00:36:52.34\00:36:53.71
Okay.
00:36:53.78\00:36:55.11
Having seen all
this and read all this.
00:36:55.14\00:36:57.28
There's gonna be
someone to say, yeah,
00:36:57.35\00:36:58.68
but I just sense it,
00:36:58.71\00:37:00.52
I know I believe
that my dead loved one
00:37:00.55\00:37:04.19
is up there in heaven,
00:37:04.22\00:37:05.82
watching over me
looking down upon me
00:37:05.85\00:37:08.72
and watching over
me each and every day.
00:37:08.76\00:37:11.83
The text that comes to
mind as I'm thinking of this as,
00:37:11.86\00:37:14.53
you know, many
people have this idea
00:37:14.56\00:37:16.30
that past the point of death,
00:37:16.33\00:37:18.27
that people continue to
have conscious thoughts,
00:37:18.30\00:37:20.94
you know, that
they're able to compute
00:37:20.97\00:37:22.57
and understand
what's around them
00:37:22.60\00:37:23.94
in spirit form.
00:37:24.01\00:37:25.34
We can't see them,
00:37:25.37\00:37:26.71
but they can see us
00:37:26.74\00:37:28.08
and they can watch over us,
00:37:28.11\00:37:29.44
you know, when the
wind blows and the breeze,
00:37:29.48\00:37:30.81
it's just right or the light
just strikes us just right.
00:37:30.85\00:37:32.81
And I'm not trying to
be facetious or sarcastic.
00:37:32.85\00:37:34.62
These are real things
that people in my family
00:37:34.65\00:37:37.65
and friends and people
that I know all the time,
00:37:37.69\00:37:39.49
you know what?
00:37:39.52\00:37:40.86
I was in my house the other day,
00:37:40.89\00:37:42.22
and, you know, I sit down
in Uncle Joe's old rocker,
00:37:42.26\00:37:45.03
you know, and Uncle Joe
has been dead for 20 years,
00:37:45.06\00:37:46.90
but, man I just sensed
the presence of Uncle Joe
00:37:46.93\00:37:49.40
and lo and behold, I
looked down the hallway
00:37:49.43\00:37:51.33
and peeking out
from behind the door
00:37:51.37\00:37:52.87
smiling and waving
at me was Uncle Joe.
00:37:52.90\00:37:55.70
A couple of texts
that come to my mind here,
00:37:55.74\00:37:57.41
Ecclesiastes Chapter 9.
00:37:57.44\00:37:58.77
We need to go there.
00:37:58.81\00:38:00.14
Dakota, why don't you go
to Ecclesiastes Chapter 9,
00:38:00.18\00:38:02.34
and we're gonna unpack this.
00:38:02.38\00:38:03.95
And then, Pastor, you can,
00:38:03.98\00:38:05.58
I know you probably
have some text of your own,
00:38:05.61\00:38:06.95
but I also wanna
look at Job 7:9-10.
00:38:07.02\00:38:10.52
So Job 7:9-10,
00:38:10.59\00:38:12.49
and then we can
add our own text here
00:38:12.52\00:38:13.86
to really solidify this.
00:38:13.89\00:38:15.22
So do people continue
to have conscious thoughts
00:38:15.26\00:38:17.93
after death?
00:38:17.96\00:38:19.29
In other words,
can grandma and grandpa
00:38:19.33\00:38:21.06
and all of my loved
ones who have passed on,
00:38:21.10\00:38:23.47
are they really watching over me
00:38:23.50\00:38:24.90
because then that
would communicate that,
00:38:24.93\00:38:26.84
you know, in some
cases for some people
00:38:26.87\00:38:28.44
who are playing
with Ouija boards
00:38:28.47\00:38:29.94
and all other kinds of,
00:38:30.01\00:38:31.41
you know, occult like practices.
00:38:31.44\00:38:33.88
There are people
often they believe
00:38:33.91\00:38:35.24
they can communicate
with their dead loved ones.
00:38:35.28\00:38:37.88
Dakota, let's show
00:38:37.91\00:38:39.75
that the Bible
does not support this,
00:38:39.78\00:38:41.12
Ecclesiastes 9:5, 6, 10.
00:38:41.15\00:38:43.99
All right, let's read it.
00:38:44.02\00:38:45.35
It says, "For the living
know that they shall die,
00:38:45.39\00:38:48.12
but the dead know not anything,
00:38:48.16\00:38:50.93
neither have
they any more reward,
00:38:50.96\00:38:52.56
for the memory of
them is forgotten.
00:38:52.59\00:38:54.43
Also their love,
and their hatred,
00:38:54.46\00:38:55.90
and their envy is now perished,
00:38:55.93\00:38:57.63
neither have
they any more portion
00:38:57.67\00:38:59.10
forever in any thing
that is done under the sun."
00:38:59.13\00:39:02.20
And then notice verse 10.
00:39:02.24\00:39:03.61
This is, I think powerful verse
00:39:03.64\00:39:05.31
that very clarifies this,
00:39:05.34\00:39:06.98
"Whatsoever thy
hand findeth to do,
00:39:07.01\00:39:08.88
do it with thy might,
00:39:08.91\00:39:10.35
for there is no
work, nor device,
00:39:10.38\00:39:13.52
nor knowledge, nor
wisdom, in the grave,
00:39:13.55\00:39:17.19
whether thou goest."
00:39:17.22\00:39:18.92
So that's pretty
clear right there.
00:39:18.95\00:39:20.29
There's no work.
There's no knowledge.
00:39:20.36\00:39:22.42
There's no, any
kind of, you know,
00:39:22.46\00:39:24.43
thing computing with the dead
00:39:24.46\00:39:26.16
for them to be
able to communicate,
00:39:26.19\00:39:27.73
have some kind of dialogue
or conversation with us,
00:39:27.76\00:39:30.80
according to the Scripture.
00:39:30.87\00:39:32.20
Right. Absolutely.
00:39:32.23\00:39:33.74
And there's something else
00:39:33.77\00:39:35.10
I just wanted to
bring out on this,
00:39:35.14\00:39:36.47
you know, a lot of people.
00:39:36.50\00:39:37.84
I shared this with a
gentleman in Tennessee one day,
00:39:37.87\00:39:40.01
is good friend of mine.
00:39:40.08\00:39:41.41
He was my barber.
00:39:41.44\00:39:42.78
And he was just blown away.
00:39:42.81\00:39:44.25
I mean, I've
never seen this before,
00:39:44.28\00:39:45.88
but then he finally
came to me, he said, "Dakota,
00:39:45.91\00:39:47.52
I don't know that
I can believe this."
00:39:47.55\00:39:48.88
He said, "Because what
about all of the people
00:39:48.92\00:39:51.85
that believe in God now
00:39:51.89\00:39:53.76
because they've
had these experiences?"
00:39:53.79\00:39:56.73
And he had a
very valid question.
00:39:56.76\00:39:58.86
What about all these
people that belief in God now
00:39:58.89\00:40:01.23
that had these experiences,
but they've talked to,
00:40:01.26\00:40:03.26
you know, someone
that's died or whatever.
00:40:03.30\00:40:05.17
And I thought about I said,
00:40:05.20\00:40:06.53
"Let me get
back to you on that."
00:40:06.57\00:40:07.90
I thought about it
and I prayed about it,
00:40:07.94\00:40:09.27
and then God just
gave me this answer.
00:40:09.30\00:40:10.64
He said, "Well,
00:40:10.71\00:40:12.04
that's no different
than all of these people
00:40:12.07\00:40:13.88
that believe in, you know,
00:40:13.91\00:40:15.44
that's Hindu that
believe in reincarnation
00:40:15.48\00:40:17.25
and all these other things."
00:40:17.28\00:40:18.61
They believe they've talked
to their dead loved ones too.
00:40:18.65\00:40:21.05
So that's supposed to
reinforce their belief
00:40:21.08\00:40:23.12
just because they
had some experience.
00:40:23.15\00:40:25.72
we as Christians
would not want some Hindu
00:40:25.75\00:40:28.22
or Buddhist or
someone that's maybe in Daoism
00:40:28.26\00:40:30.83
or whatever,
00:40:30.86\00:40:32.19
we wouldn't want them to
believe in their experiences
00:40:32.23\00:40:34.56
over the Word of God.
00:40:34.60\00:40:36.06
We as a Christian
would point them back
00:40:36.10\00:40:37.47
to the Word of God and say,
00:40:37.50\00:40:38.83
"No, no, no,
00:40:38.87\00:40:40.20
even though you
may have experienced
00:40:40.24\00:40:41.57
something real."
00:40:41.60\00:40:42.94
We have to understand
what the Bible tells...
00:40:42.97\00:40:44.31
That seems reverse.
00:40:44.34\00:40:45.67
Yeah, yeah,
well, it could be real,
00:40:45.71\00:40:47.04
but not exactly what,
00:40:47.08\00:40:48.41
you know, the
person that's speaking to
00:40:48.44\00:40:49.78
may not be it's not
obviously that person,
00:40:49.81\00:40:51.41
you know, their
loved one or whatever,
00:40:51.45\00:40:52.81
but this is why we're
commanded in 1 John 4:1,
00:40:52.85\00:40:55.38
wanna try and test the spirits
00:40:55.42\00:40:57.89
to see whether
they are of God or not.
00:40:57.92\00:40:59.99
And so yeah... And
we test them by what?
00:41:00.06\00:41:01.79
We test them by the Word.
00:41:01.82\00:41:03.16
Word of God. That's right.
00:41:03.19\00:41:04.53
Sanctify them
by thy truth. Amen.
00:41:04.56\00:41:05.89
Thy word is truth.
00:41:05.93\00:41:07.50
And then in Isaiah 8:20,
00:41:07.53\00:41:09.13
if they speak not
according to this Word
00:41:09.16\00:41:11.33
is because there
is no light in them.
00:41:11.37\00:41:13.34
We always need to
go back to the Bible.
00:41:13.37\00:41:14.80
Pastor, chime in on this one.
00:41:14.84\00:41:16.91
Job 7:9-10,
00:41:16.94\00:41:19.07
"As the cloud
disappears and vanishes away,
00:41:19.11\00:41:23.14
so he who goes down to
the grave does not come up."
00:41:23.18\00:41:27.52
That's clear.
00:41:27.55\00:41:29.05
"He shall never
return to his house,
00:41:29.08\00:41:31.79
nor shall his
place know him anymore."
00:41:31.82\00:41:35.46
Okay, so based of
that. That's clear.
00:41:35.49\00:41:37.83
If someone's sitting
in Uncle Joe's rocker,
00:41:37.86\00:41:40.80
and they look down the hallway,
00:41:40.83\00:41:42.40
and what appears
to be very clearly,
00:41:42.43\00:41:44.57
Uncle Joe smiling and waving
00:41:44.60\00:41:46.50
from the other
end of the hallway.
00:41:46.53\00:41:48.90
What is it? How do
you explain that, right?
00:41:48.94\00:41:50.54
I mean, so let's chime on that.
00:41:50.61\00:41:53.11
Now, I'll give it to you,
but let's do two passages.
00:41:53.14\00:41:55.61
Psalm 115:17. There you go.
00:41:55.64\00:41:57.78
Oh, that's a good
one. Psalm 115:17.
00:41:57.81\00:41:59.35
Yeah, I was going to
bring that one out too,
00:41:59.38\00:42:00.72
but go head and go there.
00:42:00.75\00:42:02.08
The Bible is so clear,
00:42:02.12\00:42:03.49
that's the
beautiful thing about it
00:42:03.52\00:42:04.85
is we have to get to the place
00:42:04.89\00:42:06.22
where we are willing to divorce
00:42:06.25\00:42:07.59
our perception for fact.
00:42:07.62\00:42:09.92
You know, you cannot ever,
00:42:09.96\00:42:11.53
you could never
sentence a person
00:42:11.56\00:42:14.00
based on perception, fact.
00:42:14.03\00:42:16.67
Here's the evidence.
00:42:16.70\00:42:18.03
Psalm 115:17,
00:42:18.07\00:42:19.53
"The dead do
not praise the Lord,
00:42:19.57\00:42:22.40
nor any who go
down into silence."
00:42:22.44\00:42:25.67
Instead of up into praise,
00:42:25.71\00:42:27.48
down into silence,
00:42:27.51\00:42:28.84
instead of continuing to live
00:42:28.88\00:42:30.25
and look down through portals,
00:42:30.28\00:42:31.61
and this is the
crazy thing about it.
00:42:31.65\00:42:35.05
When we are alive, if
you go to the green room,
00:42:35.08\00:42:37.32
which is round that corner
you couldn't even see in here,
00:42:37.39\00:42:40.09
but now that you die,
00:42:40.16\00:42:41.49
you could see
through time and space
00:42:41.52\00:42:42.86
and where heaven is,
00:42:42.89\00:42:44.23
you got these divine binoculars
00:42:44.26\00:42:45.59
that you can get in
some bodiliness form,
00:42:45.63\00:42:47.90
float around and check out.
00:42:47.93\00:42:49.26
Oh, what's he doing now?
00:42:49.30\00:42:50.67
That is the
Neoplatonistic ideology,
00:42:50.70\00:42:52.83
but here's the other one.
00:42:52.87\00:42:54.24
Look at Leviticus 19. Okay.
00:42:54.27\00:42:56.81
Leviticus 19.
00:42:56.84\00:42:58.17
So the question
is, who do they see?
00:42:58.21\00:43:00.78
Leviticus 19.
00:43:00.81\00:43:03.21
And then, Ryan,
we're gonna go to...
00:43:03.24\00:43:07.92
So Leviticus 19, I
may go down to verse...
00:43:07.95\00:43:12.45
Here I am.
00:43:12.49\00:43:14.56
Verse 31...
00:43:14.59\00:43:17.66
I'll probably
start with verse 30.
00:43:17.69\00:43:20.23
You wanna read that, Ryan?
00:43:20.30\00:43:21.63
So I'm gonna begin. Let's do 31.
00:43:21.66\00:43:25.37
It says, "Give
no regard to mediums
00:43:25.40\00:43:28.10
and familiar spirits,
00:43:28.14\00:43:30.11
do not seek after
them, to be defiled by them.
00:43:30.14\00:43:34.38
I am the Lord your God."
00:43:34.41\00:43:36.38
Now watch this.
00:43:36.41\00:43:37.98
With that in mind,
00:43:38.01\00:43:39.35
familiar spirits
00:43:39.38\00:43:40.72
from which we
get the word family.
00:43:40.75\00:43:42.08
That's right.
00:43:42.12\00:43:43.49
Some people say, no
one could have known that,
00:43:43.52\00:43:45.09
but my uncle,
00:43:45.12\00:43:46.55
how long has the devil
and his angels been around?
00:43:46.59\00:43:48.49
Oh, yeah, they know us
better than we know us.
00:43:48.52\00:43:50.26
And is he not able
to transform himself?
00:43:50.33\00:43:53.93
The Bible says
that in 2 Corinthians,
00:43:54.00\00:43:56.50
Satan himself
transforms himself.
00:43:56.53\00:43:58.93
He could transform
himself into an angel of light.
00:43:58.97\00:44:01.40
His evil angels can
transform themselves into uncle,
00:44:01.44\00:44:04.84
whomever or auntie whomever?
00:44:04.87\00:44:07.48
But now Isaiah 8, we
always read verse 20,
00:44:07.51\00:44:10.78
but verse 19 is the context.
00:44:10.85\00:44:15.42
Isaiah 8:19. Okay.
00:44:15.45\00:44:18.32
And read that, Ryan.
00:44:18.35\00:44:20.06
Okay, Isaiah 8:19,
00:44:20.09\00:44:23.29
this is the New
King James Version
00:44:23.32\00:44:24.66
says,
00:44:24.69\00:44:26.03
"And when they say to you,
00:44:26.06\00:44:27.40
'Seek those who are
mediums and wizards,
00:44:27.43\00:44:31.13
who whisper and mutter, '
00:44:31.17\00:44:33.34
should not a
people seek their God?
00:44:33.37\00:44:35.87
Should they seek the
dead on behalf of the living?"
00:44:35.90\00:44:39.44
Absolutely not. Don't do that.
00:44:39.47\00:44:42.18
You can't because the
dead can't tell you anything.
00:44:42.21\00:44:44.31
The dead know not
anything. That's right.
00:44:44.35\00:44:46.92
That's why the reason
why the Lord put this here
00:44:46.95\00:44:48.78
is because that's
what Saul's trap was.
00:44:48.82\00:44:52.09
He went to talk to
Samuel, and this is an amazing.
00:44:52.12\00:44:54.89
Was Samuel a righteous prophet?
00:44:54.92\00:44:56.93
Of course, he was.
00:44:56.96\00:44:58.36
But when Samuel went
to the Witch of Endor
00:44:58.39\00:45:00.70
and disguised himself
the first step in apostasy
00:45:00.73\00:45:03.20
is disguising yourself,
00:45:03.23\00:45:04.87
whole another topic altogether.
When Saul went there.
00:45:04.90\00:45:06.97
When Saul. Yeah.
00:45:07.04\00:45:08.37
You said Samuel
went... When Saul, thank you.
00:45:08.40\00:45:10.94
When Saul went to
the Witch of Endor
00:45:10.97\00:45:13.51
to see Samuel to bring them
up or to see him Samuel came up.
00:45:13.58\00:45:19.21
Okay, he didn't
come down. Right.
00:45:19.25\00:45:21.42
And the point is many
people forget that it says
00:45:21.45\00:45:23.79
he perceived that it was Samuel.
00:45:23.82\00:45:26.42
So, Ryan, and so
the spirit came up.
00:45:26.45\00:45:28.82
And what's funny
about that story,
00:45:28.86\00:45:30.73
he never even saw Samuel.
00:45:30.76\00:45:32.46
No. He only listened.
00:45:32.49\00:45:33.90
He listened, listen.
00:45:33.93\00:45:35.26
He listened to the
word of the wizard.
00:45:35.30\00:45:37.37
Of the witch.
00:45:37.40\00:45:38.93
And the witch knew
00:45:38.97\00:45:41.27
that what was happening was evil
00:45:41.30\00:45:42.77
because she said
didn't Saul say that,
00:45:42.80\00:45:45.77
if this happens
that will be killed.
00:45:45.81\00:45:48.98
Saul now in
disguise is offering freedom
00:45:49.01\00:45:52.48
and safety to a witch.
00:45:52.51\00:45:54.22
Yeah. Yeah.
00:45:54.25\00:45:55.58
She just
described Samuel to him,
00:45:55.62\00:45:58.19
and then he's like
that's got to be him.
00:45:58.22\00:45:59.72
He perceived that it is Samuel
based on the witches story
00:45:59.75\00:46:02.86
on what she was seeing.
00:46:02.89\00:46:04.23
That's right.
00:46:04.26\00:46:05.59
So doesn't look like your uncle.
00:46:05.63\00:46:07.00
I perceive that's my
uncle. No, it's not your uncle.
00:46:07.03\00:46:09.40
If the same
familiar evil spirits,
00:46:09.43\00:46:11.90
many false
Christs and false prophets
00:46:11.93\00:46:13.64
shall show great
signs and wonders
00:46:13.67\00:46:16.17
that's gonna deceive.
00:46:16.20\00:46:17.54
And that's why he
said, try the spirits.
00:46:17.61\00:46:19.31
'Cause God
doesn't work that way,
00:46:19.34\00:46:20.68
either you're dead
waiting for the resurrection
00:46:20.71\00:46:22.04
or you're not.
00:46:22.08\00:46:23.45
That's right. Okay.
00:46:23.48\00:46:24.81
So that's what we've said,
00:46:24.85\00:46:26.61
you know, why are
these things happening?
00:46:26.65\00:46:28.12
Why do people see these,
00:46:28.15\00:46:29.85
you know,
familiar spirits, right?
00:46:29.88\00:46:31.99
It goes back to
the texts that I read,
00:46:32.02\00:46:33.76
pastor even alluded to
it, Revelation 16:13-14.
00:46:33.79\00:46:37.16
I saw three unclean spirits...
00:46:37.23\00:46:38.83
And by the way, this is speaking
00:46:38.86\00:46:40.20
of the last days.
00:46:40.23\00:46:41.56
My friends, if
you're watching this
00:46:41.60\00:46:42.93
at home right now,
00:46:42.96\00:46:44.30
this is talking
about the last days prior
00:46:44.33\00:46:45.67
to the Second Coming of Jesus.
00:46:45.70\00:46:47.04
So the devil told
this lie in the beginning
00:46:47.07\00:46:48.97
and he's still telling
it before Jesus returns.
00:46:49.00\00:46:52.44
Revelation 16:13-14, "And I saw
00:46:52.47\00:46:54.51
three unclean spirits like frogs
00:46:54.54\00:46:56.51
coming out of the
mouth of the dragon,
00:46:56.54\00:46:57.95
out of the mouth of the beast,
00:46:57.98\00:46:59.31
and out of the mouth
of the false prophet,
00:46:59.35\00:47:01.55
for they are spirits of demons."
00:47:01.58\00:47:03.49
Why, is that really Uncle
Joe at end of the hallway?
00:47:03.52\00:47:06.12
No. What are they again?
00:47:06.15\00:47:07.49
"They are spirits of
demons, performing signs,
00:47:07.56\00:47:10.73
which go out to
the kings of the earth
00:47:10.76\00:47:12.36
and to the whole world,
to gather them to battle
00:47:12.39\00:47:14.30
the great day of God Almighty."
00:47:14.33\00:47:16.77
I think we have
solidified the fact
00:47:16.80\00:47:19.00
that we do not go
to heaven when we die.
00:47:19.03\00:47:21.67
We do not receive immortality
at the point of death,
00:47:21.70\00:47:24.41
but I have to ask the
question, my brothers.
00:47:24.44\00:47:26.68
When are we given immortality?
00:47:26.71\00:47:29.14
Let's jump into
the Scripture and show
00:47:29.18\00:47:30.95
when we kind of referenced
already at the resurrection,
00:47:30.98\00:47:34.22
but let's read some texts
and then let's solidify that.
00:47:34.25\00:47:36.15
1 Corinthians
15:51-53. Go ahead, Dakota.
00:47:36.18\00:47:39.39
1 Corinthians 15:51-53.
00:47:39.42\00:47:45.83
Yes. All right.
00:47:45.86\00:47:47.93
It says, "Behold,
I shew you a mystery.
00:47:47.96\00:47:49.70
We shall not all sleep."
00:47:49.73\00:47:51.33
In other words,
we're not all gonna be dead
00:47:51.37\00:47:53.44
at the Second Coming of Jesus.
00:47:53.47\00:47:54.80
Right. There's
gonna be some alive.
00:47:54.84\00:47:56.17
There's gonna be some alive.
00:47:56.20\00:47:57.54
"We shall not all sleep,
but we shall all be changed."
00:47:57.57\00:47:58.91
I don't know about you guys,
00:47:58.94\00:48:00.28
I'm looking
forward to being changed.
00:48:00.31\00:48:01.64
Amen.
00:48:01.68\00:48:03.01
It says, "In a moment,
in the twinkling of an eye,
00:48:03.04\00:48:04.38
at the last trump."
00:48:04.41\00:48:05.75
So notice, the changing
takes place at the last trump.
00:48:05.78\00:48:08.35
It says, "For the
trumpet shall sound,
00:48:08.38\00:48:10.09
the dead shall be
raised incorruptible,
00:48:10.12\00:48:12.52
and we shall be changed."
00:48:12.55\00:48:13.89
Again this all
happens at the last trumpet.
00:48:13.96\00:48:16.22
"For this corruptible
must put on incorruption,
00:48:16.26\00:48:18.26
and this mortal
must put on immortality."
00:48:18.29\00:48:19.76
There you go.
00:48:19.79\00:48:21.13
That's when the
immortality begins,
00:48:21.16\00:48:22.53
but the
question I wanna pose is,
00:48:22.56\00:48:23.90
why do they believe this.
00:48:23.97\00:48:25.30
And this is crazy.
00:48:25.33\00:48:26.67
I wanna show you that the lie
that the devil told back then,
00:48:26.70\00:48:29.10
was still alive believed
in the days of the apostles.
00:48:29.14\00:48:32.34
This is the reason
why this lie still lives.
00:48:32.37\00:48:34.51
2 Thessalonians
2:10-11. Oh, yes.
00:48:34.54\00:48:38.01
"And with all
unrighteous deception
00:48:38.05\00:48:40.72
among those who perish,"
00:48:40.75\00:48:42.35
here's the reason
why, if you still say,
00:48:42.38\00:48:44.79
I don't believe it,
00:48:44.82\00:48:46.15
you're open to susceptibility
to being deceived,
00:48:46.19\00:48:49.79
"because they did not
receive the love of the truth,
00:48:49.82\00:48:54.23
that they might be saved."
00:48:54.30\00:48:55.76
You know, the word
they're saved means spared.
00:48:55.80\00:48:57.83
That's the word they
00:48:57.87\00:48:59.20
that they might
be spared from what?
00:48:59.23\00:49:00.57
From unrighteous deception.
00:49:00.64\00:49:02.40
"And for this reason
00:49:02.44\00:49:03.81
God will send
them strong delusion,
00:49:03.84\00:49:05.24
that they should
believe," what, Ryan?
00:49:05.27\00:49:07.08
A lie. No, no,
look at the last word.
00:49:07.11\00:49:09.48
Well, it says
that they might be,
00:49:09.51\00:49:10.95
it says they send
them strong delusion...
00:49:10.98\00:49:12.91
That they might believe what?
00:49:12.95\00:49:14.35
That they should
believe a lie or the lie.
00:49:14.38\00:49:16.58
The lie. Oh, the lie.
00:49:16.62\00:49:18.09
Okay. Okay.
00:49:18.12\00:49:19.55
That may be tiny, but it's huge.
00:49:19.59\00:49:21.36
Yeah, that's a
good point. What lie?
00:49:21.39\00:49:23.56
The very lie that
started this whole thing
00:49:23.63\00:49:26.90
is continuing in
its trek, serpentology.
00:49:26.93\00:49:29.50
The lie that was told
then is still being told.
00:49:29.53\00:49:32.47
The unrighteous
deception that caught Eve
00:49:32.50\00:49:34.94
is the unrighteous deception
00:49:34.97\00:49:36.50
that catches everyone
who rejects the truth.
00:49:36.54\00:49:38.61
You know what's
powerful as we're sitting here
00:49:38.64\00:49:39.97
talking about this,
00:49:40.01\00:49:41.34
you're talking
about those who reject
00:49:41.38\00:49:42.71
the love of the truth or
have a love for the truth,
00:49:42.74\00:49:45.58
they reject the truth.
00:49:45.61\00:49:46.95
It's
interesting, I think of that,
00:49:47.02\00:49:48.35
one of the questions
00:49:48.38\00:49:49.72
that come up
often with this subject
00:49:49.75\00:49:51.09
is people always say,
00:49:51.12\00:49:52.45
but what about the
rich man and Lazarus?
00:49:52.49\00:49:53.82
I know that
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that's a whole
another topic for the day,
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but something in that
parable and I wanna emphasize
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that's a parable by the way,
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something in that parable
that catches my attention.
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The rich man
speaks to father Abraham.
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And he says, "Hey,
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just send them back
from the dead, " right?
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So that they can send
Lazarus back from the dead
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so he can warn my brothers,
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so they don't have
to come to this place.
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And the father tells
them, you know, no, you know,
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I can't do that, right?
00:50:19.35\00:50:20.72
Because they're not
even still gonna believe you
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even if I send
them back from the dead,
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and he says, "Believe
in the Word of the Lord."
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And his response is, "No, Lord."
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You go read that parable.
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He says, "No, Lord."
00:50:30.26\00:50:31.59
But if you, see
he's persisting it.
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And there's
people with that spirit,
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that mentality,
my friends, today.
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We have to get
back to Scripture.
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We have to say, are
we biblical Christians,
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are we self-sins?
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I know that's a Ryan
Day word right there.
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A self-sin.
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Are we a
Christian? Are we a self-sin?
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Are we a follower of self?
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You know, the Bible says,
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there is a way which
seemeth right into a man,
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but then in the end
there are the ways of death.
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So are we perceiving
and only wanting to believe
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what we wanna believe
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or are we going
back on thus saith
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the Lord and saying,
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"Lord, I wanna believe
whatever is in Your Word."
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And that was the
problem with this rich man.
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He said, "No,
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he didn't wanna
believe the truth."
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No, Lord, but only
if you just send him
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back from the dead.
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He says, "Look, even
if I send this brothers
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back from the dead,
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they're still
not gonna believe."
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And so we've got about a
minute and 19 seconds here,
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I also wanna touch on
1 Thessalonians 4:16-17.
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1 Thessalonians 4:16-17.
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1 Thessalonians,
I'm right here, 4:16-17.
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Notice what the Bible says.
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It says, "For the Lord Himself
would descend from heaven
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with the shout,
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with the voice of the archangel,
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and with the trump of God.
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And the dead in
Christ will rise first."
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And what's powerful
about this? Check this.
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After the dead in
Christ will rise first, notice,
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"Then we which are alive
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and remain shall be caught up, "
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after them?
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No, together.
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No, it says "Together
with them in the clouds
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to meet the Lord in the air.
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And thus shall we
always be with the Lord."
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My friends, my dead loved
ones, your dead loved ones.
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They don't get to go to
heaven before me and you.
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We all get to go
to heaven together.
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And that's the
beautifulness of this text
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and all the texts
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that we've been
talking about here,
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and we have about
25 seconds before we go
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to a two-minute or
when we go to a quick break,
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and we're gonna come
back for two minutes,
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but I hope that you've
learned something today.
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This is a powerful truth.
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We're looking at
00:52:16.30\00:52:17.63
what does the Bible
teach us about death.
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And I think we've
clearly seen that today.
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We're gonna take a short
break, don't go anywhere.
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We're gonna come back
for some closing comments
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in just a few moments.
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But hey, grab your friends,
00:52:28.18\00:52:29.51
grab your family
if they're not around,
00:52:29.54\00:52:31.18
and catch us with
these last two seconds
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'cause we're gonna
tie this up together
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in just a few moments.
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