Music...
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Hello, and welcome to
another 3ABN Today Program.
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We're so glad that you
have joined us today...
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you know why?
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It's because
you're part of our family.
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I hope your day
has been going well...
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I know that here at
3ABN, it's been a great week
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that we're going
through... been through...
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and we just want to say,
"Thank you for your prayers
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and financial support
for the ministry of 3ABN
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because you... and of
course the Lord Jesus Christ
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you're helping to spread
the gospel around the world
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and you know what's
so incredible about that
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is that, as you pray
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and as you send
your gifts to 3ABN,
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you're making a
difference in someone's life...
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not just for here on
this earth but for eternity
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and that's absolutely fantastic
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and we have a very encouraging
program today, don't we?
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Jill: We do... I
love the Today Program
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because we get to
feature what God is doing
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in ministries... in
people's lives around the world
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and today is no exception.
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It's our privilege to have the
President of the world church
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of Seventh-day
Adventists here with us
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Elder Ted Wilson, President
of the General Conference
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of Seventh-day Adventists,
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thank you so
much for being here,
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and your beautiful wife, Nancy.
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Elder Ted: She's
the more important one.
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All: Laughter.
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Greg: We know that Mr.
Danny Shelton, of course,
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and his wife, Yvonne, would
loved to have been here too
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on this Set but
their plans didn't work out
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for them to be here
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but they send their
greetings to both of you as well
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and we just want to say,
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"Thank you for your
support for 3ABN... "
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because 3ABN is a
supporting ministry
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of the
Seventh-day Adventist church.
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We believe in evangelism...
we believe in the message...
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we believe in spreading
the gospel around the world
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and I know that that is
your heartbeat all the way.
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Elder Ted: Amen... amen...
and thank you for your welcome,
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it's a great privilege
to be again here at 3ABN
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and we are extremely grateful
for the very wonderful support
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that this Organization brings
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to the evangelistic
outreach of the church.
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In fact, we will visit different
places around the world
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and, "You know,
this person came in... "
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or "this person came in...
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because they heard
the message on 3ABN
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and they just
showed up at church. "
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So, praise God
for what He's doing
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through the gifts
that people give...
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the prayers that people offer
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and the work that
is accomplished...
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we just give God the glory.
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Greg: Amen.
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Elder Ted: It's a privilege,
you know, for the world church
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to work together.
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Hope Channel... and 3ABN...
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and other outreach activities...
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what a blessing to be a
part of one focus and that is...
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preparing people through
the power of the Holy Spirit
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for Jesus' soon coming.
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Greg: I believe that as
we work together that's...
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I mean, that's
powerful as a family,
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now we're talking about you
as being part of our family...
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that's powerful
because we are working together
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to spread the
gospel around the world
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and we just want to say,
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"Thank you for
partnering with us. "
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Now, you came in and flew in...
in the plane into St. Louis
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I know you have a busy schedule
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but we're kind of in
the middle of nowhere...
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but you were
mentioning, Mrs. Wilson,
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about driving
along... it's kind of flat
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but as you get here, the terrain
changes just a little bit...
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Nancy: Hmmm... hmmm...
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Greg: It's a
little bit more rolling...
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but it's amazing to
me to think about...
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out here in these corn fields...
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about the signal
going up into outer space
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and then, coming back down
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and like you said...
touching people's lives
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and they're coming into the
Seventh-day Adventist Church
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as members... praise the Lord.
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Jill: So, tell us a little bit,
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we have people who watch...
many different denominations...
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tell us a little bit... the
Seventh-day Adventist Church
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what's the membership?
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What's the goal and objective
of this last-day Movement?
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Elder Ted: Well Jill,
Seventh-day Adventist Church
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is operating in about
215 countries of the world.
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In some countries, we
have large memberships...
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others... just a small group
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but everyone is important...
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every outreach activity...
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every witnessing opportunity
is precious in the Lord's sight.
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We have almost 22 million
baptized Seventh-day Adventists.
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Jill: Amen. Greg: Wow...
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Elder Ted: So, that's not
including smaller children...
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and those who like
to associate themselves
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with the Adventist Church
but that's the baptized members
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and really,
that's a small amount
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in comparison with the...
what? 7.6... 7 billion people
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in the entire globe
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but the Lord is using
these people in a powerful way
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to touch lives everywhere
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and they do it
through the wonderful method
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that Christ has offered to us
and to follow in His footsteps
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helping people
physically and mentally
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and socially and spiritually
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and it's such an important thing
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to draw in those
elements of Christ's ministry
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as He touched people's lives...
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as He helped them to realize
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that there was something bigger
in life than just existing
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and it was really
to bring glory to God
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and to prepare people
for the climactic event
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of Christ's soon return
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and that's the kind of
thing that motivates me also
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and I just am so excited
about the Lord's second coming
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and, of course,
that's what 3ABN...
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Three Angels
Broadcasting Network...
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you are broadcasting
those three angels' messages
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of Revelation 14...
powerful messages...
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which focus back on
Christ's righteousness...
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that's the real core of
those three angels' messages
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and the wonderful aspect
that God is our Creator...
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not only our
Creator but our Redeemer
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and that we need to turn people
back to the true worship of God
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as opposed to a kind of
works-oriented arrangement
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because we're only saved
by the grace of Jesus Christ
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but when you accept
Christ, He then works in you
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to do something miraculous
to change your life...
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to become more
and more like Him...
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that's sanctification...
we're justified by Christ...
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we're sanctified
through His power
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and we then are able
to proclaim this message
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in practical ways.
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So, the
Seventh-day Adventist Church
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is really a Movement that is
heralding Christ's soon return
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and helping people to
do exactly what Jesus said,
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to live life abundantly,
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not only now but of
course, for the future.
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So, the
Seventh-day Adventist Church
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focusses upon those elements
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that are so
important in Scripture
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and we believe
everything that Scripture says,
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and what a blessing it is
to be able to take God's Word
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and accept it as it reads
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not trying to put all kinds of
strange interpretations into it
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so, Seventh-day Adventists base
their beliefs on this holy Word.
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Now, this is a
pretty small Bible...
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Jill: It's super small.
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Elder Ted: But
it's still the Bible.
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Greg: That's right,
and that's the whole Bible.
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Elder Ted:
That's the whole Bible
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and that's been
around the world,
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I don't know how
many times with me
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and it goes with me
to the office every day
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and it's a
precious little Bible...
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not my preaching Bible
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although I've used it to preach
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when I lost
another one temporarily,
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but the Word of God
whether it's small or large
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is God's Word. Greg: Amen.
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Jill: And it needs
to be hid in our heart,
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that's the key and
the important part.
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Greg: Amen.
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Jill: To read it and digest
it and to take it internally.
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Greg: Amen, sure...
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tell us a little
but about your family
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and then we'll go to
some music here shortly
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but today as we're going to
be talking with Elder Wilson
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what a privilege to
have he and his wife here,
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we've got basically some updates
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of what's going on in the church
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there's been some different
things that has been affecting
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some of the
members in the church
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and, of course, there are
things happening in the world
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that we live in, so we
want to be talking about that...
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evangelism as well
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so I know this hour is
going to go by really quickly,
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but in case you
don't know the Wilsons...
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Mrs. Wilson, how many kids?
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I know you have
some kids and grandkids
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and so, tell us
about your family.
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Nancy: We have three daughters
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and because we
have three daughters,
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we now have three sons... we
call our sons-in-law our sons
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and they have given
us 11 grandchildren...
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we have five granddaughters
and six grandsons.
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Greg: So, the
oldest grandchild...
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Nancy: Just turned 13...
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Greg: And the littlest?
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Nancy: Is six months old.
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Elder Ted: Under one year.
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Greg: So, when
you all get together,
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you got a fun household.
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Elder Ted: We have
our own Camp Meeting.
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Laughter...
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Our own tribe...
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I mean, now it's...
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Nancy: Our own
Vacation Bible School
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I call is "Chaotic Bliss... "
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Laughter...
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Greg: That's really special.
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Nancy: Yeah, it
is... and many of them
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are very close in age
so, they're very, very close
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and it's a wonderful
time when we're all together.
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Greg: Do you all get to
spend much time together?
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because I know your
travel schedule is just amazing.
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Elder Ted: We try...
we try to get together
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at least two times a
year... maybe three times...
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we try to coordinate
schedules and all of that
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so, we'll meet at our
home or someone's home
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or go on a trip, you know,
hiking or something like that
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we... we like to
be in the outdoors
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and a blessing to be
together in so many ways.
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So, yeah, we've
got quite a group...
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I think we have what? 19...
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Nancy: 19 when
we're all together now.
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Elder Ted: You put them in
little corners of the house
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and here and there but
everybody has a great time
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in so many ways.
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Greg: That's fun... that's
the preciousness of family
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being together...
spending the time together...
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Elder Ted: Yeah. Nancy: Exactly.
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Greg: I look
forward to heaven too
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together as all God's family.
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Elder Ted: Amen.
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Greg: Amazing...
shall we go to a song,
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we have Pastor Wintley Phipps...
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you have a Scripture
first? Jill: I have a Scripture.
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Greg: Okay, let's
go to the Scripture
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and then we'll go to a song.
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Jill: This is Matthew
24:14. Greg: Oh, that's great.
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Jill: I was
thinking of evangelism...
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that's what made me think of it.
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"This gospel of the kingdom will
be preached in all the world
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as a witness to all the nations,
and then the end shall come. "
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Nancy: Amen.
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Jill: And that's the
mission and an objective of 3ABN
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and the
Seventh-day Adventist Church...
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we preach the gospel message
to a lost and dying world
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and that's what
we're talking about today.
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Greg: That's right.
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Jill:
Evangelism is the heartbeat
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and what God is
doing in and through
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the Seventh-day
Adventist Church.
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First, we're going to a song,
Pastor Wintley Phipps is with us
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the song he will be
ministering is: Coming Again.
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Music... Trumpet...
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more music...
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Why stand ye gazing there
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up into the sky?
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Be not discouraged
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for we have brought good news
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This same Jesus
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Whom we do magnify
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Soon He will come again
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for all to glorify
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He is coming again...
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He is coming again
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Son of the Father
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He is coming again
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On Calvary He claimed my destiny
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Lord, I humble myself
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myself...
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to Thee...
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Thee...
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Lord, I want to see Your face
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just help me be strong
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I know You will return
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I know it won't be long
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He is coming again...
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He is coming again
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Son of the Father
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He is coming again
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On Calvary He claimed my destiny
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Lord, I humble myself
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to Thee...
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Lift up the trumpet
and loud let it ring
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Jesus is coming again
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Cheer up ye pilgrims
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Be joyful and sing
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Jesus is coming again
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Coming again...
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Coming again
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Jesus is coming again
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Coming again...
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Coming again
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Jesus is coming
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again...
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Pause...
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Greg: Amen, thank
you Pastor Phipps,
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praise the Lord...
Jesus is coming again
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and He's coming very, very soon.
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I just want to say... thank
you for your sacrificial gifts.
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Just recently I
received a letter across my desk
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and maybe you're
even watching now today,
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where someone
gave 99 cents to 3ABN
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and to some of you, you may say,
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"Oh, that's not very much. "
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Do you know what? That is a lot.
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I believe this
person gave sacrificially...
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God's going to
take that 99 cents
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and multiply and
only the Lord knows
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how many people will be in the
kingdom because of the 99 cents,
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you can't put a price on a soul,
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God will multiply and
take whatever you've got
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the key is... is to dedicate
it and give it to the Lord.
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He'll take it and use it.
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Jill: That's right,
we're talking today...
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visiting today
with Elder Ted Wilson
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and his wife, Nancy.
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Elder Ted Wilson,
of course, is President
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of the General Conference
of Seventh-day Adventists,
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and thinking of that
song Elder Phipps just sang,
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"Coming Again... "
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that is the mission of the
Seventh-day Adventist Church
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to proclaim the
undiluted three angels' messages
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to a lost and dying world
that Jesus is coming again soon.
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There's an initiative
with the church called:
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Total Member Involvement
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that deals specifically
with getting people involved
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in Evangelism,
talk to us about that.
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Elder Ted: Total Member
Involvement really involves
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exactly as the name implies.
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Everybody doing
something for Jesus...
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everyone
connecting with the Lord
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through Bible Study and prayer
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and then,
allowing the Holy Spirit
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to express the
truth through your lives.
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It involves not simply rhetoric
and just a nice slogan...
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it means that church
members should be active
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in the spreading of the gospel
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and the preparation of
Christ's soon return...
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not just pastors and
evangelists and church officers
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but everybody...
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even people who
think, "Well, you know,
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I just don't know how I
can possibly talk to somebody
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and well... "
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the Lord will empower you
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to say the right
thing at the right time
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to show love and
Christ's compassion to people
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and attract them to something
much greater than anything
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they have ever experienced.
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So, total member involvement
is empowering church members
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to really become involved.
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Jill: Hmmm...
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Elder Ted: In
John chapter 9 verse 4,
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it tells us that
Jesus was saying,
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"I need to work the
works of Him who sent me
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because night is coming.
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I got to work
during the day time... "
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and so, do what you
can while it is light
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and that's the same thing
with Total Member Involvement,
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there needs to be
an urgency about it.
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The church members feel,
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"We are really part of
an on-going activity... "
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not just contributing,
which is good... financially...
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not just praying...
which is absolutely crucial...
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but actually doing
something to help other people
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know that the Lord
is coming very soon.
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We are seeing...
all across this globe
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amazing results
from church members
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simple people... if I can...
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I mean, I consider
myself to be a simple person...
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not an... you
know... a humble person...
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I mean, you have to be a
person that truly realizes
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that it is the
Lord working through you
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and not some
flashy dazzling thing
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that you are producing.
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This is the Holy
Spirit working through you
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and you have to humble yourself
in order for that to happen
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and I just pray that personally,
I will do that every day
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and that all of our church
members will be so used by God
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in touching the lives
of neighbors and friends
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and relatives.
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This is what Total Member
Involvement really is all about.
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When it comes
to public meetings,
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we have seen in
different parts of the world
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and we're getting ready to
head off to Papua New Guinea,
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Lord willing,
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provided there is no
restriction, you know,
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on travel and
that kind of thing,
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we'll probably get to
that in a few minutes,
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but we're going to be
holding Evangelistic meetings
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in the highlands
of Papua New Guinea.
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there will be about 2,000
other Evangelistic meetings
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taking place...
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Jill: So, 2,000 simultaneously.
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Elder Wilson:
Yes... Greg: 2,000.
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Elder Wilson: It's
amazing and they're hoping for
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tens of thousands of baptisms,
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of course, that's
up to the Holy Spirit,
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because we present the
Word through the power of God
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but, you can go to
many different countries,
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and Total Member
Involvement is taking on
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such a personal
meaning for people.
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They're not
just looking there...
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sitting and watching
somebody else do something,
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they're getting involved.
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Greg: Hmmm...
hmmm... that's important.
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Elder Ted: And that I tell you
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is just been one of the
happiest things that I have seen
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in a long time
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and the Lord is just doing
marvelous things through people.
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I don't know, Nancy, if you
have something you want to add
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in terms of our
observation of what TMI...
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some people say, "Well,
that's too much information"
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but you know what?
The young people...
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some of the young
people said, "That's great,
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because TMI... you
normally think of something else
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but then, that
draws your attention
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to what the real purpose is...
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Total Member Involvement. "
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Greg: I love it, yeah.
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Nancy: I think
of it as an attitude
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that we're all be the
Lord's hands and feet and mouth
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and if we have the
attitude every day of saying,
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"Lord, use me... "
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and sometimes, you know,
when you're in the grocery store
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or wherever we are,
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we see people who
are discouraged...
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who are troubled or
maybe not well physically,
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we have
opportunities to encourage them
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and, you know, it's... we
can be ministering all day long
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if we pray that
we will be sensitive
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to the
opportunities that come our way.
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But we have just seen
people all over the world
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and we must came
from Malawi recently
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and the
involvement of the young people
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and the women and
everyone working together
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doing their
thing and it's just...
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it's thrilling to
see and it just...
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it excites them
and brings joy to them
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and, you know, it's...
it's a selfless activity...
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you're thinking of others
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and that's what
makes you the happiest
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when you're
ministering for others
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and you forget about self.
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Greg: So what would be
like, some examples then
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because someone
says, "Okay, that's neat...
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Total Member
Involvement... so does that mean
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preaching every day?"
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But it sounds like
you said, "Helping others"
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so would that be someone taking
the trash out for somebody?
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or... and let's say,
someone's is shut in at home,
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what could they do?
Total Member Involvement...
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someone can't
get out of the house
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based on their physical
condition or something...
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anybody can be involved somehow.
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Elder Wilson: It can
be involving any thing
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that touches people's lives
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and then... not
just leaving it there,
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but somehow drawing them
to a relationship with Jesus.
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Greg: So, in other words,
someone could take the trash out
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for someone next-door
neighbor but then say,
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"Hey, I've got a
little tract for you. "
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Elder Wilson: Exactly...
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or, you know, remind
them that God loves them
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and... "You know, I've got a...
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I've got a special text or two
I'd like to just share with you"
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or... or "How would you
like to study the Bible with me?
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Let's look at God's Word. "
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I mean, all kinds of
ways in which to touch lives,
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and let me just add
to what Nancy has said
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about young people.
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In some parts of the world,
the church is getting older
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but in a majority
of the world church
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or a huge portion of the church,
00:24:08.98\00:24:11.45
young people are so
vibrant, they're so excited...
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they're on
fire... they're just...
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and the church is
full of young people...
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you know,
teenagers... early 20s... 30s...
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they're just on
fire for the Lord,
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and they're not
ashamed of representing Jesus.
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Greg: Amen, that's encouraging.
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Nancy: We heard one
or two child preachers
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in Africa recently,
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and they got up and
just spoke with conviction,
00:24:35.34\00:24:38.84
they were precious...
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but, you know, if
we just open our eyes
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and ask God to show
us... there are so many things
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and there are a lot of shut-ins
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or maybe someone is
losing their eyesight
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and someone
could read to them...
00:24:51.22\00:24:53.29
someone could
take their mail and...
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and, you know,
there are so many errands
00:24:55.62\00:24:57.83
and things that...
ways we can help neighbors.
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You don't have to wait for
a huge project to be involved.
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Elder Ted: Showing
the kindness of Jesus
00:25:05.07\00:25:08.50
and then, drawing
people to spiritual renewal
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and spiritual life in the Lord.
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I have a quotation
from a favorite author
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for many of us... Ellen White
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and we believe... I
believe that's inspired by God
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and points to the Scriptures...
points to Christ...
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but it says in the book titled:
Testimonies for the Church,
00:25:31.96\00:25:38.13
volume 9, it says, "The
work of God in this earth
00:25:38.17\00:25:41.17
can never be finished,
until the men and women
00:25:41.20\00:25:44.21
comprising our
church membership,
00:25:44.24\00:25:46.44
rally to the work
and unite their efforts
00:25:46.47\00:25:49.58
with those of
ministers and church officers. "
00:25:49.61\00:25:52.75
So, God is waiting for all of us
00:25:52.78\00:25:56.12
to work together under the power
00:25:56.15\00:25:58.59
and leadership
of the Holy Spirit
00:25:58.62\00:26:00.99
and then, things will
happen in an even a greater way.
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Greg: Yeah, yeah,
that's powerful for sure,
00:26:04.76\00:26:07.23
I think about the
times that we're living in...
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you're kind of
referencing the Coronavirus
00:26:09.76\00:26:12.27
as far as travel, restrictions
and that sort of thing,
00:26:12.30\00:26:14.84
you know, you think
about the natural disasters.
00:26:14.87\00:26:16.84
We had the fires in Australia...
00:26:16.91\00:26:21.74
a volcano in the Philippines...
00:26:21.78\00:26:24.61
and then, we've
got the Coronavirus
00:26:24.65\00:26:27.88
and the scare about that.
00:26:27.92\00:26:29.92
Everyone is nervous
and worried about travel...
00:26:29.95\00:26:31.95
Elder Ted:
Tornados are happening...
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unbelievable things that people
normally just don't think about
00:26:34.96\00:26:42.30
this happening
in their backyard,
00:26:42.33\00:26:43.80
terrible tornado that took
place in Tennessee recently
00:26:43.87\00:26:49.14
and terrible
earthquake down in Puerto Rico.
00:26:49.17\00:26:53.54
Now, we don't want to
over dramatize these things
00:26:53.58\00:26:57.71
or over
sensationalize these things
00:26:57.78\00:27:00.35
to the point where we're saying,
00:27:00.38\00:27:01.92
"Well, you know,
the world's going to end
00:27:01.98\00:27:04.62
in the next week
or something... "
00:27:04.65\00:27:05.99
because we know from
prophetic understanding
00:27:06.02\00:27:08.29
certain things have to happen
00:27:08.32\00:27:09.89
and it's going to
take a little more time
00:27:09.92\00:27:12.89
but I really believe the
Lord's coming is very soon
00:27:12.93\00:27:15.60
but these things...
00:27:15.63\00:27:19.17
even though we don't
over sensationalize them,
00:27:19.20\00:27:22.27
they are definite signs that
Jesus' coming is imminent...
00:27:22.30\00:27:28.04
He's coming very soon.
00:27:28.08\00:27:29.71
So, I don't think people ought
to just dismiss these things
00:27:29.74\00:27:33.85
as, "Well, they're cyclical...
00:27:33.88\00:27:35.45
they're just...
just happenstance... "
00:27:35.48\00:27:37.49
there is something happening
even in the physical world
00:27:37.52\00:27:41.09
that tells us...
Jesus' return is imminent.
00:27:41.12\00:27:44.46
Greg: Yeah, amen, you
know, it's exciting times
00:27:44.49\00:27:47.80
that we live in too.
00:27:47.83\00:27:49.16
You know, and it's really tragic
that have lost their loved ones
00:27:49.20\00:27:52.63
and those who have passed
away from the natural disasters
00:27:52.67\00:27:54.90
and things that are
going on in the world
00:27:54.94\00:27:56.81
but then, it's right now is
the time to go out and use these
00:27:56.84\00:28:00.58
as opportunities for evangelism
00:28:00.61\00:28:02.74
because, you think about the
world right now, Elder Wilson,
00:28:02.78\00:28:04.48
there are a lot of questions
going on, "What's going on?"
00:28:04.51\00:28:06.68
As we were
traveling around recently,
00:28:06.72\00:28:08.35
people were like,
"Boy, this is really scary!"
00:28:08.38\00:28:10.19
People are afraid
00:28:10.25\00:28:11.99
so, how should the
Adventist Church approach this?
00:28:12.02\00:28:14.39
Elder Ted: But
Greg, the Bible says,
00:28:14.42\00:28:17.49
"Men's hearts... men
and women's hearts...
00:28:17.53\00:28:20.33
everybody's hearts are
going to fail them for fear. "
00:28:20.36\00:28:23.83
This is an opportune time
for Seventh-day Adventists...
00:28:23.87\00:28:27.30
for Christians
of all denominations
00:28:27.34\00:28:30.87
who are Bible-believing people,
00:28:30.91\00:28:32.44
who are just placing
themselves in God's hands,
00:28:32.47\00:28:35.78
to understand the full impact
of what is going on the world
00:28:35.81\00:28:41.42
according to Bible prophecy
00:28:41.45\00:28:43.59
and as Seventh-day
Adventists, we know
00:28:43.62\00:28:46.19
that these things
are going to come about
00:28:46.22\00:28:48.76
just before the
return of Christ.
00:28:48.79\00:28:50.89
This is a time for
Bible-believing Christians
00:28:50.93\00:28:55.90
to be solid anchors...
00:28:55.93\00:28:58.20
to be people who will
give stability to a situation
00:28:58.23\00:29:04.47
because, you know,
people are just panicking...
00:29:04.51\00:29:07.34
they're...
they're... they're agitated...
00:29:07.38\00:29:09.41
they don't know what to do,
00:29:09.44\00:29:10.78
but Christians can be
solidly grounded in Christ.
00:29:10.81\00:29:14.52
Greg: Amen.
00:29:14.55\00:29:16.18
Pastor Ted:
There's a beautiful verse
00:29:16.22\00:29:17.95
that comes from
the Old Testament
00:29:17.99\00:29:19.65
which I think is
key to all of this...
00:29:19.69\00:29:22.99
it's something that I
grew up as a little child
00:29:23.02\00:29:26.83
looking at something on the wall
00:29:26.86\00:29:29.06
that had this beautiful verse
00:29:29.13\00:29:31.83
and it is
really absolutely true,
00:29:31.87\00:29:34.87
it's Isaiah
chapter 26 and verse 3.
00:29:34.90\00:29:38.47
"Thou wilt keep
him in perfect peace,
00:29:38.51\00:29:42.04
whose mind is stayed on Thee:
because he trusteth in Thee. "
00:29:42.08\00:29:48.78
So, if you really
trust in the Lord,
00:29:48.82\00:29:51.25
your life can be a source of
stability for your community...
00:29:51.29\00:29:55.79
for your family...
for those around you...
00:29:55.82\00:29:58.16
for the work place...
00:29:58.19\00:29:59.93
and you don't have
to come across as being
00:29:59.96\00:30:02.10
part of the group
that's just frazzled
00:30:02.13\00:30:04.83
because you don't know
what's going to happen next.
00:30:04.87\00:30:07.07
Now, admittedly,
00:30:07.10\00:30:08.44
we can't predict
what's going to happen next
00:30:08.47\00:30:11.71
but like with this
Coronavirus, COVID-19,
00:30:11.74\00:30:15.01
it's... it's a
dangerous thing...
00:30:15.04\00:30:17.38
you need to take precautions...
00:30:17.41\00:30:19.71
you need to be careful...
00:30:19.75\00:30:21.08
you need to not be
standing near people
00:30:21.12\00:30:24.72
that might be infecting you,
00:30:24.75\00:30:26.96
you need to be
pleasant and happy
00:30:26.99\00:30:28.59
but, you know,
keep your distance.
00:30:28.62\00:30:30.23
Cleansing your hands...
00:30:30.26\00:30:32.69
not putting your
hands to your face
00:30:32.73\00:30:34.83
which is probably one of
the most detrimental things
00:30:34.86\00:30:37.63
but you also can't just go
hide in the cave somewhere.
00:30:37.67\00:30:41.70
You have to be an
active agent of Jesus
00:30:41.74\00:30:45.41
and God will use that to
bring stability and a peace
00:30:45.44\00:30:52.28
into people's lives
00:30:52.31\00:30:54.18
because you are fixed
upon the Lord Himself.
00:30:54.22\00:30:58.59
So, this is a great opportunity
for Seventh-day Adventists
00:30:58.62\00:31:03.12
and so many others
00:31:03.16\00:31:04.83
to be real
witnesses for the Lord.
00:31:04.86\00:31:07.40
Things may happen...
restrictions may come in...
00:31:07.43\00:31:11.47
Government agencies
may dictate things...
00:31:11.50\00:31:14.34
so, we need to be
prudent and careful
00:31:14.37\00:31:17.14
but we can't act like
everything is falling apart
00:31:17.17\00:31:21.28
and we don't know where to turn.
00:31:21.31\00:31:22.68
We can turn to God's
Word for the Lord says...
00:31:22.71\00:31:26.18
He will be with us
to the very end of time
00:31:26.21\00:31:29.65
and you can
count on that promise,
00:31:29.68\00:31:32.22
and not only count on
it... you can act on it...
00:31:32.25\00:31:35.62
and you can show people
that you truly are connected
00:31:35.66\00:31:39.03
with the God of stability.
00:31:39.06\00:31:40.70
Greg: Hmmm...
00:31:40.73\00:31:42.06
Jill: Amen, what an opportunity
for Seventh-day Adventists
00:31:42.10\00:31:44.90
to be salt and light in the
world and in their community.
00:31:44.93\00:31:48.24
Talk to us for a moment
about the church in China
00:31:48.27\00:31:51.31
because we know Coronavirus...
00:31:51.34\00:31:53.24
specifically there's
quite a large outbreak in China,
00:31:53.27\00:31:57.25
have we lost any members
in the church there in China
00:31:57.28\00:32:01.25
and what are
the members there...
00:32:01.28\00:32:03.18
what is the spirit
there amongst the members?
00:32:03.22\00:32:05.19
Elder Ted: Well,
in a beautiful way,
00:32:05.22\00:32:06.96
the Seventh-day Adventist Church
is trying to reach out to people
00:32:06.99\00:32:10.23
because of the
lockdown situation,
00:32:10.26\00:32:13.40
many people, I
think are destitute
00:32:13.43\00:32:16.06
of even some of
the simplest things,
00:32:16.10\00:32:18.67
you know, toothpaste
and this kind of thing...
00:32:18.70\00:32:21.14
soap and what have you...
00:32:21.17\00:32:22.67
I mean, things that...
that may be difficult to find
00:32:22.70\00:32:26.74
because of all the restrictions,
00:32:26.78\00:32:28.74
so, Seventh-day
Adventists are attempting
00:32:28.78\00:32:31.11
to be truly
Christ's hands and feet
00:32:31.15\00:32:34.22
in helping people
in a very personal way.
00:32:34.25\00:32:38.25
The area of Wuhan where the
epicenter is of the Coronavirus
00:32:38.29\00:32:46.49
that has developed,
00:32:46.53\00:32:47.86
is a place where our
Head Elder and his wife
00:32:47.90\00:32:55.04
contracted this
disease and others...
00:32:55.07\00:32:58.24
so, this is something of...
of really a personal nature
00:32:58.27\00:33:04.31
and you don't know when
you might be infected yourself
00:33:04.35\00:33:09.58
but the church
has to be a witness
00:33:09.62\00:33:12.32
even in those
difficult situations
00:33:12.35\00:33:14.99
and what an opportunity for our
church in China and elsewhere
00:33:15.02\00:33:20.23
because now there are
other very strong centers
00:33:20.26\00:33:23.26
in different parts of the
world with this Coronavirus.
00:33:23.30\00:33:27.14
Greg: Yeah, sure is.
00:33:27.17\00:33:28.80
Elder Ted: But, you know,
to be a part of the remedy
00:33:28.84\00:33:31.41
as opposed to the problem...
00:33:31.47\00:33:33.41
be part of the solution.
00:33:33.44\00:33:35.31
Be someone who brings
encouragement to people
00:33:35.34\00:33:40.25
if nothing more than that...
00:33:40.32\00:33:42.62
that can be real positive thing.
00:33:42.65\00:33:44.89
So, our church is
trying, I think, everywhere
00:33:44.92\00:33:47.56
where they're facing this issue,
00:33:47.62\00:33:49.79
to be part of the solution
and not part of the problem.
00:33:49.82\00:33:53.06
Jill: Amen.
00:33:53.09\00:33:54.43
Greg: I like that and I
like being, like you're saying
00:33:54.46\00:33:55.80
to being stable...
00:33:55.83\00:33:57.17
in other words, be
a stable Christian...
00:33:57.20\00:33:58.87
we base our stability
on Christ and His Word,
00:33:58.90\00:34:01.50
we know that things
are going to get bad
00:34:01.54\00:34:03.47
as we head toward the end times,
00:34:03.51\00:34:04.84
we don't have to be afraid,
00:34:04.87\00:34:06.21
I know off camera, Mrs.
Wilson, you were mentioning
00:34:06.24\00:34:08.61
a really good
text, was it in Isaiah?
00:34:08.64\00:34:11.45
Nancy: Yes... no... Psalm
34:4. Greg: What does it say?
00:34:11.48\00:34:14.88
Nancy: "I sought the
Lord, and He heard me,
00:34:14.92\00:34:18.69
and delivered me
from all my fears. "
00:34:18.72\00:34:23.89
Greg: That's powerful.
Nancy: That's beautiful.
00:34:23.93\00:34:26.49
Jill: Have you
claimed that promise?
00:34:26.53\00:34:27.86
Nancy: Many times.
00:34:27.90\00:34:29.50
Greg: And I'm sure,
many different circumstances
00:34:29.53\00:34:32.17
that you've been in,
00:34:32.23\00:34:33.57
yeah, so when we
go to God's Word,
00:34:33.60\00:34:35.44
what promises are found
in it and we can claim them
00:34:35.47\00:34:38.61
because God is
alive and He is well
00:34:38.64\00:34:41.24
and He is there
to take care of us
00:34:41.28\00:34:43.14
and walk with us through
whatever we're going through.
00:34:43.18\00:34:45.61
Pastor Ted: And
let me just add that
00:34:45.65\00:34:47.52
that... you know, we're
in this great controversy.
00:34:47.55\00:34:51.15
We are between Christ and Satan
00:34:51.19\00:34:54.02
and we are as some
have portrayed it...
00:34:54.06\00:34:56.52
we are the
theatre of the universe.
00:34:56.56\00:34:58.93
The entire universe is
watching what is happening
00:34:58.96\00:35:02.30
on this earth.
00:35:02.33\00:35:03.67
Are individuals... human beings
00:35:03.70\00:35:06.50
willing to, of
their own volition...
00:35:06.53\00:35:10.51
their own voluntary action
00:35:10.54\00:35:12.77
believe in a God
that created them
00:35:12.81\00:35:15.04
and Who can sustain them.
00:35:15.08\00:35:16.98
Satan's great theme was that...
and it was a complete lie
00:35:17.01\00:35:21.72
that's the beginning of
fake news or whatever...
00:35:21.78\00:35:25.62
that... that, "No,
you're just an Automaton...
00:35:25.65\00:35:28.62
you're just a robot...
00:35:28.69\00:35:30.36
you're just
worshipping or serving God
00:35:30.39\00:35:33.29
because you don't
have any other choice... "
00:35:33.33\00:35:36.43
but this great
controversy to show the universe
00:35:36.46\00:35:39.50
that there are people
00:35:39.53\00:35:41.97
who, out of love
for what God has done,
00:35:42.00\00:35:46.01
creating us and redeeming us...
00:35:46.04\00:35:48.44
we are His twice...
00:35:48.48\00:35:49.81
that you will give
your heart and your life
00:35:49.84\00:35:54.62
completely to Him
00:35:54.68\00:35:56.42
and as this develops... as this
is seen by the entire universe
00:35:56.45\00:36:02.19
we can know that this great
controversy is going to end soon
00:36:02.22\00:36:07.96
and sin will never bring
its ugly head up again...
00:36:08.00\00:36:11.30
it will be eradicated
for the rest of eternity
00:36:11.33\00:36:14.60
and that's also a hope
00:36:14.64\00:36:17.24
that people who
understand Bible prophecy
00:36:17.27\00:36:20.68
and the very
imminent return of Christ...
00:36:20.71\00:36:24.05
they can place their
hope that one of these days
00:36:24.08\00:36:27.05
that there will be
no more Coronaviruses...
00:36:27.08\00:36:29.15
All: Amen.
00:36:29.18\00:36:30.62
Elder Ted: No more volcanos
that are killing people...
00:36:30.65\00:36:33.36
no more earthquakes
that will destroy...
00:36:33.39\00:36:35.46
there will be a
time of eternal peace
00:36:35.49\00:36:39.93
throughout the
ages, the ceaseless ages.
00:36:39.96\00:36:44.37
That's the hope we got to
hang on to and believe in.
00:36:44.40\00:36:47.40
Greg: Amen, yeah, I agree.
00:36:47.44\00:36:49.10
Jill: As... as you
travel throughout...
00:36:49.14\00:36:50.61
because I know both of you
do a great deal of traveling,
00:36:50.64\00:36:52.61
you referenced earlier, Malawi,
00:36:52.64\00:36:54.14
talk to us about some of the
countries you've been recently
00:36:54.18\00:36:57.11
and how you see our
people having this hope
00:36:57.15\00:37:01.28
in the soon return of Jesus
00:37:01.32\00:37:02.95
or how they're
working to spread the gospel
00:37:02.98\00:37:05.05
or be involved
in evangelism more,
00:37:05.09\00:37:07.56
or any other
stories from those regions?
00:37:07.59\00:37:09.56
Elder Ted: And then
Nancy can share here
00:37:09.59\00:37:11.53
a few aspects of it as well...
00:37:11.56\00:37:13.50
our most recent trip
was to the Galápagos Islands
00:37:13.53\00:37:18.17
where we had a
marvelous inauguration of a...
00:37:18.20\00:37:22.80
a... a museum of
nature called "Origins"
00:37:22.87\00:37:26.47
which, of course,
Seventh-day Adventists...
00:37:26.51\00:37:30.08
we believe God
created us by His word
00:37:30.11\00:37:33.45
in six literal days recently...
00:37:33.52\00:37:37.82
but, of course, many people
have a different perspective
00:37:37.85\00:37:41.92
they believe in Evolution.
00:37:41.96\00:37:44.03
Frankly, I think it is...
00:37:44.06\00:37:46.06
it is harder to
believe in Evolution
00:37:46.09\00:37:48.26
than it is in
Creation to be honest
00:37:48.30\00:37:50.43
specially with the
precious Word of God explaining
00:37:50.47\00:37:53.34
and what God is
doing in our lives,
00:37:53.37\00:37:55.24
re-creating in us a
new spirit every day
00:37:55.27\00:37:58.01
as we submit to Him
00:37:58.04\00:37:59.61
but in any case, we
had a marvelous experience
00:37:59.64\00:38:03.81
where this beautiful
center was inaugurated
00:38:03.85\00:38:08.15
in order to show
people the power of God
00:38:08.18\00:38:12.85
and also to explain
the beauties of nature
00:38:12.89\00:38:17.53
and how it is part of
our God-given responsibility
00:38:17.56\00:38:22.40
as stewards of this earth
00:38:22.43\00:38:24.03
to take care of
what He has given to us
00:38:24.07\00:38:27.00
and this in many ways
will help people recognize
00:38:27.04\00:38:31.34
the beautiful
creative power of God.
00:38:31.37\00:38:34.11
And that was a
marvelous experience
00:38:34.14\00:38:36.24
to be with our
people in Ecuador,
00:38:36.28\00:38:38.18
the Galápagos
Islands are in Ecuador,
00:38:38.21\00:38:40.05
and it was a marvelous...
00:38:40.08\00:38:43.45
Greg: Hmmm... so it's a museum?
00:38:43.49\00:38:45.79
Elder Ted: It's a museum...
a very interactive museum...
00:38:45.85\00:38:48.52
Greg: Wow!
00:38:48.56\00:38:49.89
Elder Ted: And it's
just a marvelous thing,
00:38:49.92\00:38:51.36
we hope thousands of people...
00:38:51.39\00:38:53.23
because I think they have
about 250,000 visitors a year
00:38:53.29\00:38:57.17
that come through
the Galápagos Islands
00:38:57.20\00:38:59.03
so, they will... many
of them be able to see
00:38:59.07\00:39:02.54
in that Center... the
beauty of God's creative power
00:39:02.57\00:39:06.47
which again... that's part of
the first angel of Revelation 14
00:39:06.51\00:39:11.38
of those three angels
that God is the Creator.
00:39:11.41\00:39:15.18
But, just a
little bit before that,
00:39:15.22\00:39:17.39
not too long ago, we visited
five different countries,
00:39:17.42\00:39:21.96
Jordan, Ghana, South
Africa, Malawi and Angola.
00:39:21.99\00:39:27.70
Greg: Hmmm...
00:39:27.73\00:39:29.06
Elder Ted: And in
each one of those places,
00:39:29.10\00:39:30.53
we had meetings
with our church members,
00:39:30.57\00:39:32.10
in some places, we
have enormous membership...
00:39:32.13\00:39:35.50
Ghana for instance...
and Malawi and Angola...
00:39:35.54\00:39:38.84
in other places like Jordan,
00:39:38.87\00:39:41.58
maybe 100 members
in the whole country,
00:39:41.61\00:39:44.15
but we were opening a...
00:39:44.18\00:39:46.51
re-inaugurating a
special Center of Influence
00:39:46.55\00:39:50.79
in that region... that will
help people with music classes,
00:39:50.85\00:39:56.06
language
classes, health classes,
00:39:56.09\00:39:58.73
education will continue...
they have a school there...
00:39:58.76\00:40:02.03
so, that was a
marvelous experience.
00:40:02.06\00:40:05.57
In Ghana, we had a
beautiful celebration
00:40:05.60\00:40:10.24
of many years of...
of Conference Status...
00:40:10.27\00:40:14.84
self-supporting status...
00:40:14.88\00:40:17.25
of the Central Ghana Conference
00:40:17.28\00:40:19.15
and just
thousands of people there...
00:40:19.21\00:40:21.52
it was a marvelous explanation
00:40:21.55\00:40:24.72
of how God has
used thousands of people
00:40:24.75\00:40:28.32
to spread to even a
greater amount of people
00:40:28.36\00:40:31.23
in the country of Ghana.
00:40:31.26\00:40:32.73
But Nancy can share
about Malawi a little more
00:40:32.79\00:40:36.56
and about Angola because the
thing that really struck us...
00:40:36.60\00:40:39.77
we had in both places on Sabbath
00:40:39.80\00:40:43.94
a beautiful worship
experience in both places...
00:40:43.97\00:40:49.01
in Malawi... Lilongwe
00:40:49.04\00:40:51.35
and in Luanda in Angola.
00:40:51.38\00:40:53.58
In Lilongwe I
think we had probably
00:40:53.62\00:40:57.45
about 40,000 people there,
00:40:57.49\00:40:59.95
Greg: 40,000? Wow.
00:40:59.99\00:41:01.86
Elder Ted: 40,000... and,
of course, the whole country
00:41:01.89\00:41:04.19
has... Adventists...
maybe around 600,000.
00:41:04.23\00:41:06.46
Jill: Wow!
00:41:06.49\00:41:07.83
Elder Ted: And in Angola, we
had about 35,000 people there.
00:41:07.86\00:41:10.70
Jill: It's a beautiful country.
00:41:10.73\00:41:12.40
Elder Ted: But in
Malawi especially,
00:41:12.43\00:41:14.24
as Nancy was
kind of referencing,
00:41:14.30\00:41:16.00
there was... there was a special
parade of church members...
00:41:16.04\00:41:23.11
everyone from... from
Literature Evangelists...
00:41:23.14\00:41:26.61
people who share
Christian books...
00:41:26.68\00:41:28.62
to medical health workers...
00:41:28.68\00:41:31.02
to women ministries and
Dorcas community services...
00:41:31.05\00:41:38.49
outreach... young
people... Pathfinders...
00:41:38.53\00:41:42.10
Nancy:
Adventurers... all levels of...
00:41:42.13\00:41:45.63
and they are just out
there so enthusiastic.
00:41:45.67\00:41:49.10
Greg: In their uniforms?
00:41:49.14\00:41:50.47
Nancy: Oh yes... oh
yes, marching and...
00:41:50.51\00:41:52.11
Elder Ted: You know,
they're so excited about being
00:41:52.14\00:41:55.91
part of a Movement that
is sharing eternal truths
00:41:55.94\00:41:59.65
and Christ at the
center with others.
00:41:59.68\00:42:02.08
It's not as though
they're hiding... you know...
00:42:02.12\00:42:05.05
making up
apologies for who they are...
00:42:05.09\00:42:07.52
they are so happy to
be Seventh-day Adventists.
00:42:07.56\00:42:11.03
To be Christians in
this world of confusion,
00:42:11.06\00:42:14.36
where we were just
talking about the Coronavirus
00:42:14.40\00:42:17.93
and all the frustrations
that people are facing,
00:42:17.97\00:42:21.47
and yet, these young
people and older ones
00:42:21.50\00:42:26.01
are just so happy to
have a better message
00:42:26.04\00:42:28.38
and I think that's
really what we experience...
00:42:28.41\00:42:32.05
people having
this precious message
00:42:32.08\00:42:35.25
physically, mentally,
socially and spiritually...
00:42:35.28\00:42:38.15
a completeness in Christ...
00:42:38.19\00:42:40.06
Nancy, maybe you
can share a few things.
00:42:40.09\00:42:42.46
Nancy: I was just
saying... a message of hope.
00:42:42.49\00:42:43.96
Everybody is... is
looking for hope...
00:42:43.99\00:42:47.60
what can they hang
on to, what is solid?
00:42:47.63\00:42:51.20
What is truth?
00:42:51.23\00:42:53.23
What will carry me
through whatever I have to face?
00:42:53.27\00:42:56.00
And, we... in fact, we...
00:42:56.04\00:43:01.81
we saw people
who'd been through a lot.
00:43:01.84\00:43:04.21
One man had been
in jail for two months
00:43:04.25\00:43:07.32
because he was
falsely accused of something
00:43:07.35\00:43:11.59
and he and his wife
just radiated God's love.
00:43:11.62\00:43:15.82
Elder Ted: That was in Angola.
00:43:15.86\00:43:17.93
Nancy: They just... they were...
00:43:17.96\00:43:19.93
I thought I saw
halos above their head...
00:43:19.96\00:43:22.56
they just
radiated the love of God
00:43:22.60\00:43:24.50
in spite of what
they had been through
00:43:24.53\00:43:26.17
and they were just
humble, committed Christians
00:43:26.20\00:43:31.57
that were so inspiring
00:43:31.61\00:43:32.94
and they went through a lot!
00:43:32.97\00:43:34.91
But God was with them.
00:43:34.94\00:43:36.51
Elder Ted: And
while he was in jail,
00:43:36.54\00:43:39.01
along with
another church leader,
00:43:39.05\00:43:41.98
they didn't just
sit there and mope,
00:43:42.05\00:43:44.95
they evangelized
00:43:44.99\00:43:47.36
and a church essentially
was born in that prison
00:43:47.39\00:43:52.23
and it is growing so,
I mean, wherever you...
00:43:52.26\00:43:56.33
I mean, the old saying,
"Wherever you're planted,
00:43:56.36\00:44:00.37
you ought to grow... " you know.
00:44:00.44\00:44:01.77
Nancy: Bloom
where you're planted.
00:44:01.80\00:44:03.14
Elder Ted: Bloom where
you're planted, yeah...
00:44:03.17\00:44:04.97
and what a blessing
it is, and I tell you...
00:44:05.01\00:44:06.94
they were falsely accused...
totally falsely accused...
00:44:06.98\00:44:10.81
and one of our
missions in Angola
00:44:10.85\00:44:14.55
was to meet with the
President of the country
00:44:14.58\00:44:17.65
and to thank him for interceding
because he has a great project
00:44:17.69\00:44:23.79
to try and eliminate
corruption in the country
00:44:23.83\00:44:28.06
and we were able to have
a meeting with the President
00:44:28.10\00:44:31.43
of the country and to
read Scripture to him...
00:44:31.50\00:44:36.10
to share promises
and to pray with him
00:44:36.17\00:44:39.11
and to thank him for
what he had done to intervene
00:44:39.17\00:44:44.05
in this situation.
00:44:44.08\00:44:45.71
In fact, on this trip,
00:44:45.75\00:44:47.28
we had the privilege of meeting
Heads of State in Ghana...
00:44:47.32\00:44:50.75
in Malawi... and in Angola
00:44:50.79\00:44:53.29
and that is a
God-given privilege.
00:44:53.32\00:44:56.02
It has nothing to do to us...
it's nothing special about us...
00:44:56.06\00:44:59.09
but it's an
opportunity to witness
00:44:59.13\00:45:01.40
to these high
influential leaders
00:45:01.43\00:45:04.23
as to what God
can do through them
00:45:04.27\00:45:06.97
in bringing religious
liberty to their country...
00:45:07.00\00:45:10.41
to preserving the
opportunity to worship God
00:45:10.44\00:45:13.34
according to people's
conscience and dictates.
00:45:13.38\00:45:16.21
Anyway, it was a... it was a
marvelous trip in so many ways
00:45:16.24\00:45:19.61
and it is just emblematic...
00:45:19.65\00:45:21.88
it's a symbol of how
God is working in the lives
00:45:21.92\00:45:25.25
of literally thousands
upon thousands of people
00:45:25.32\00:45:28.62
all around this globe
00:45:28.66\00:45:29.99
because we're preparing
for Jesus' soon coming.
00:45:30.03\00:45:33.80
Jill: Yes.
00:45:33.83\00:45:35.16
Greg: You know, I'm encouraged
by what you're sharing
00:45:35.20\00:45:36.73
because you're over the
Seventh-day Adventist church,
00:45:36.77\00:45:38.37
you know, as the
General Conference President
00:45:38.43\00:45:40.17
of Seventh-day Adventists,
00:45:40.20\00:45:41.54
and by you sharing these
stories of what's happening...
00:45:41.57\00:45:43.74
because these
are recent stories...
00:45:43.77\00:45:45.11
this is not something
that happened ten years ago...
00:45:45.14\00:45:46.47
Elder Ted: Not even a
month ago, two weeks ago.
00:45:46.51\00:45:48.68
Greg: Yeah, because
some people will say,
00:45:48.71\00:45:50.05
"Your church is dead,
you know, people are leaving,
00:45:50.08\00:45:51.85
people are discouraged...
00:45:51.88\00:45:53.45
evangelism
doesn't work anymore... "
00:45:53.48\00:45:54.98
what you're
sharing... stuff is happening...
00:45:55.02\00:45:57.12
for those that are
willing to be vessels,
00:45:57.15\00:45:59.05
things are happening...
the church is alive and well,
00:45:59.09\00:46:00.56
young people are involved...
00:46:00.59\00:46:01.92
they're excited
about evangelism.
00:46:01.96\00:46:04.09
Elder Ted: And lay people...
and let me just put this in here
00:46:04.13\00:46:07.30
not to interrupt you too much
00:46:07.33\00:46:09.06
but in Europe... which
is a very secular place
00:46:09.10\00:46:12.83
and a very challenging place,
00:46:12.87\00:46:14.20
lay people are taking
charge of public outreach...
00:46:14.24\00:46:18.64
whether it's in small
groups or in public evangelism,
00:46:18.67\00:46:23.04
and in about two
years, there is planned
00:46:23.08\00:46:26.45
some exciting
evangelistic outreach
00:46:26.51\00:46:29.05
which will work, of course,
with the organized church
00:46:29.08\00:46:32.02
but lay people...
00:46:32.05\00:46:33.49
that's what Total Member
Involvement is all about.
00:46:33.56\00:46:35.66
Greg: So, I was going toward
a "Revival and Reformation"
00:46:35.69\00:46:38.73
because I know
that's been our initiative
00:46:38.76\00:46:41.13
and initiatives are good
but I like it to be lifestyle
00:46:41.16\00:46:43.77
right, it should just
become part of our lifestyle
00:46:43.80\00:46:46.57
so, share with us about
the "Revival and Reformation"
00:46:46.60\00:46:49.34
push of the General Conference
00:46:49.37\00:46:51.81
because I think it's
really, really important
00:46:51.84\00:46:53.44
because it's not just as a...
as an Organization as a whole
00:46:53.48\00:46:56.34
but you're
going all the way down
00:46:56.38\00:46:57.78
to the
individual life in a person.
00:46:57.81\00:46:59.85
Elder Ted: Total
Member Involvement
00:46:59.88\00:47:01.85
will never get off the
ground in your own life
00:47:01.88\00:47:04.92
or in the church
00:47:04.95\00:47:06.29
if there isn't a
complete connection
00:47:06.32\00:47:09.16
with the Lord personally.
00:47:09.19\00:47:10.73
It... you know the
church is not involved
00:47:10.76\00:47:13.60
with just some
sloganeering and some kind of...
00:47:13.63\00:47:16.36
you know, "Get
everybody involved
00:47:16.40\00:47:17.80
then, you know,
blah, blah, blah... "
00:47:17.83\00:47:19.20
it just kind of happens.
00:47:19.23\00:47:20.64
No, it's got to be a personal
connection with the Lord,
00:47:20.67\00:47:24.47
and that's what
revival is all about.
00:47:24.51\00:47:27.24
Nancy: Yes.
00:47:27.28\00:47:28.61
Elder Ted: Connection
with the Word of God...
00:47:28.64\00:47:30.95
daily reading of the Word of God
00:47:30.98\00:47:33.85
daily reading of the
Spirit of Prophecy...
00:47:33.88\00:47:36.79
daily... not only
daily... hourly prayer...
00:47:36.82\00:47:39.65
I mean, we got to be in
connection with the Lord
00:47:39.69\00:47:41.66
all the time.
00:47:41.69\00:47:43.02
Just before the
Program, we had prayer here
00:47:43.06\00:47:46.86
and that was powerful
prayer that our Producer prayed.
00:47:46.90\00:47:49.83
Greg: Yeah, Bobby.
00:47:49.86\00:47:51.20
Elder Ted: And then...
and personally I prayed also,
00:47:51.23\00:47:54.30
"You know, Lord, speak
through us or use us... "
00:47:54.34\00:47:57.41
You got to be in
constant contact with the Lord,
00:47:57.44\00:48:00.91
but all of this then
produces supernaturally...
00:48:00.94\00:48:03.78
because the Holy
Spirit is working in us...
00:48:03.81\00:48:08.28
supernaturally creates
a... not only a revival
00:48:08.35\00:48:12.79
but it begins
to change your life
00:48:12.82\00:48:15.26
and that's the
"Reformation" part
00:48:15.32\00:48:17.69
because we have to
submit to a lot of things...
00:48:17.73\00:48:20.53
sometimes, we're
pretty stubborn...
00:48:20.56\00:48:22.76
and we're
pretty self-centered...
00:48:22.80\00:48:24.93
and we just have to submit
00:48:24.97\00:48:27.04
and in... in
Colossians in the first chapter,
00:48:27.07\00:48:31.47
it says here in verse 9 of
Colossians 1, Paul is saying,
00:48:31.54\00:48:38.48
"For this cause we also,
since the day we heard it,
00:48:38.51\00:48:41.88
do not cease to pray for you,
00:48:41.92\00:48:44.02
and to desire
that ye might be filled
00:48:44.09\00:48:47.46
with the knowledge of
His will and all wisdom
00:48:47.49\00:48:49.56
and spiritual understanding. "
00:48:49.59\00:48:50.93
Greg: Hmmm...
00:48:50.96\00:48:52.29
Elder Ted: God wants
us to understand our role
00:48:52.33\00:48:54.96
in the very end of time
00:48:55.03\00:48:56.56
and then, it goes on to say,
00:48:56.60\00:48:58.67
"That ye might walk worthy
of the Lord unto all pleasing,
00:48:58.70\00:49:02.57
being fruitful
in every good work,
00:49:02.60\00:49:05.41
and increasing in
the knowledge of God;
00:49:05.44\00:49:08.28
strengthened with all might,
according to His glorious power,
00:49:08.31\00:49:12.61
unto all
patience and longsuffering
00:49:12.65\00:49:14.92
with joyfulness... "
00:49:14.95\00:49:16.28
and... you know, we
can keep on going...
00:49:16.32\00:49:18.12
it's this marvelous text...
00:49:18.15\00:49:20.09
this "Revival and Reformation"
00:49:20.12\00:49:21.99
is... is a transformation
in people's lives...
00:49:22.02\00:49:25.46
so that neighbors
and friends and... and...
00:49:25.49\00:49:28.90
and work associates
00:49:28.93\00:49:30.27
and... and... and,
you know, family...
00:49:30.30\00:49:32.23
they say,
"What's happened to you?
00:49:32.27\00:49:34.50
You seem to be sweeter
and kinder and more patient
00:49:34.54\00:49:38.74
and you're not
frenetic and just...
00:49:38.77\00:49:41.44
you know, panicking
because of the Coronavirus
00:49:41.48\00:49:44.81
or something...
00:49:44.85\00:49:46.61
but
something... you're poised...
00:49:46.65\00:49:49.18
you have a stability... "
00:49:49.22\00:49:50.65
that's because you're
connected to the Vine...
00:49:50.69\00:49:54.32
you're connected to Jesus
00:49:54.36\00:49:55.79
and that's what
"Revival and Reformation"
00:49:55.82\00:49:58.06
is all about
00:49:58.09\00:49:59.43
and from that springs the
wonderful sharing of the gospel.
00:49:59.46\00:50:03.16
Jill: Amen, absolutely.
00:50:03.23\00:50:04.83
If I can ask you Nancy,
00:50:04.87\00:50:06.43
I know we're
almost out of time here
00:50:06.47\00:50:08.04
but, if I can
ask you as a woman,
00:50:08.07\00:50:09.54
how do you keep your
relationship with Jesus vibrant?
00:50:09.57\00:50:13.58
How do you keep that
revival and reformation active
00:50:13.61\00:50:17.58
in your own life you travel...
00:50:17.61\00:50:19.55
you're constantly bombarded with
different things and attacks,
00:50:19.58\00:50:23.75
how do you keep
that in your own walk?
00:50:23.79\00:50:25.39
Nancy: I have tried to
start memorizing Scripture more,
00:50:25.42\00:50:30.86
and then, it's fresh in my mind
00:50:30.89\00:50:34.13
and it's like...
it is so soothing
00:50:34.16\00:50:37.37
and it's so powerful
00:50:37.40\00:50:38.73
and Scripture is so applicable
to our lives every day
00:50:38.77\00:50:44.27
and I think the
more... you know...
00:50:44.31\00:50:46.54
"Thy Word have I hid in my heart
00:50:46.57\00:50:48.71
that I might not
sin against Thee. "
00:50:48.74\00:50:50.18
It brings us not
only... it brings us peace...
00:50:50.21\00:50:55.08
absurdity... trust...
and it keeps us faithful
00:50:55.12\00:51:00.06
so, I try to... to
spend time with the Lord,
00:51:00.09\00:51:04.99
reading often
it's on an airplane...
00:51:05.06\00:51:07.10
and I pray...
00:51:07.13\00:51:10.33
if I can't sleep
at night, I pray.
00:51:10.37\00:51:13.67
Jill: Hmmm...
00:51:13.70\00:51:15.04
Nancy: And I try to
take every opportunity...
00:51:15.07\00:51:17.31
sometimes we're
just too tired to read.
00:51:17.34\00:51:20.61
Jill: Yes. Greg: Hmmm... hmmm...
00:51:20.64\00:51:22.01
Nancy: And so, then I
can just talk to the Lord
00:51:22.04\00:51:26.15
but I try... I have
to say I limit my reading
00:51:26.18\00:51:30.09
to things that I find
will edify me spiritually
00:51:30.15\00:51:34.02
and it's not that...
00:51:34.06\00:51:36.36
it's because my
time is so limited,
00:51:36.39\00:51:42.13
so, I'm very picky about
what I spend my time reading
00:51:42.16\00:51:45.03
but when I'm in the kitchen,
I'll listen to sermons...
00:51:45.10\00:51:47.90
I'll listen to
things that... that help me
00:51:47.97\00:51:54.64
and I am trying to learn how
to abide in Christ continually.
00:51:54.68\00:51:59.91
Jill: Amen. Greg: Amen.
00:51:59.95\00:52:01.28
Jill: Well, that's
evident in both of your lives
00:52:01.32\00:52:02.88
that you walk with God...
00:52:02.92\00:52:04.25
that you seek
His face in His Word.
00:52:04.29\00:52:06.19
We've been so blessed today by
our time here with Elder Wilson
00:52:06.22\00:52:10.89
and his wife, Nancy,
00:52:10.93\00:52:12.26
we'll be back in a moment with
a few closing thoughts from them
00:52:12.29\00:52:14.90
but we just want you at home...
00:52:14.93\00:52:16.53
encourage you to pray
specifically for the Wilsons.
00:52:16.56\00:52:20.34
Pray for their leadership...
00:52:20.40\00:52:21.74
pray for what God
is doing in and through
00:52:21.77\00:52:25.21
the Seventh-day
Adventist Church.
00:52:25.27\00:52:26.61
We'll be right back.
00:52:26.64\00:52:27.98