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You Cannot Outgive God

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00:01 I want to spend my life
00:07 Mending broken people
00:12 I want to spend my life
00:18 Removing pain
00:23 Lord, let my words
00:30 Heal a heart that hurts
00:34 I want to spend my life
00:40 Mending broken people
00:45 I want to spend my life
00:51 Mending broken people
01:08 Hello, friends, welcome to 3ABN Today.
01:11 My name is John Lomacang
01:12 and I have the best co-pilot in the world.
01:15 How you doing, honey?
01:16 I'm happy, I'm excited,
01:18 'cause you know I work for 3ABN Radio.
01:20 That's right.
01:21 Anything to do with radio I'm excited about.
01:24 And this is Adventist World Radio,
01:27 you'll find out in just a moment
01:29 what that's all about if you've not heard about it,
01:31 but if you have tuned in before,
01:33 thank you for your prayers
01:34 and your financial support of this network
01:35 as we continue going and growing,
01:37 getting ready for the coming of the lord.
01:39 Honey, we have so much to cover today.
01:41 I don't want to take a lot of time on housekeeping.
01:42 Yeah.
01:44 What's the song that we have for today?
01:45 Scott Michael Bennett is going to share a song
01:47 called You Raise Me Up.
02:08 When I am down
02:11 And, oh, my soul, so weary
02:16 When troubles come
02:19 And my heart burdened be
02:25 Then, I am still
02:27 And wait here in the silence
02:33 Until you come
02:36 And sit awhile with me
02:41 You raise me up
02:44 So I can stand on mountains
02:48 You raise me up
02:51 To walk on stormy seas
02:56 Oh, I am strong
02:59 When I am on your shoulders
03:04 You raise me up
03:07 To more than I can be
03:15 There is no life
03:18 No life without its hunger
03:23 Each restless heart
03:26 Beats so imperfectly
03:30 But then you come
03:33 And I am filled with wonder
03:38 Sometimes I think
03:41 I glimpse eternity
03:46 You raise me up
03:48 So I can stand on mountains
03:53 You raise me up
03:56 To walk on stormy seas
04:01 I am strong
04:03 When I am on your shoulders
04:08 You raise me up
04:11 To more than I can be
04:21 You raise me up
04:24 So I can stand on mountains
04:29 You raise me up
04:32 To walk on stormy seas
04:37 I am strong
04:39 When I am on your shoulders
04:44 You raise me up
04:47 To more than I can be
04:54 You raise me up
04:58 To more than I can be
05:25 Thank you so much, Scott.
05:26 That song is a wonderful segue
05:28 because God raises every one of us up
05:31 for a particular purpose.
05:32 And our guests today are no exception to that rule.
05:35 They have been raised up for such a time
05:37 as this to take radio
05:39 and the wonderful gospel around the world.
05:41 So let's go ahead and meet them right now.
05:42 Let's do it.
05:44 To my immediate right is Duane McKey.
05:45 Good to have you here, Duane.
05:46 I'll extend my hand and shake yours.
05:48 Thank you. Thank you.
05:49 I don't think my arm is long enough for the rest of them.
05:50 But Adventist World Radio,
05:52 first of all, good to have you back.
05:53 Thank you so much.
05:55 My wife and I have been on a program with you before.
05:56 It's always good because we know
05:57 you're on the front lines of the gospel as we are
05:59 and kind of for those
06:01 who may be watching for the first time
06:02 or listening,
06:04 tell us what is Adventist World Radio?
06:05 Who you are all?
06:07 Yeah, we reach the world on radio.
06:10 I tell people you go to the scariest place on earth,
06:14 the most desolate place, the...
06:16 You go to North Korea
06:18 or to the jungles of South America
06:21 where the drug cartel control the land
06:23 and AWR's there.
06:25 If not, we will be there soon by God's grace.
06:28 So that's our plan.
06:29 We've been going for 50 years,
06:31 broadcasting the good news that Jesus is coming soon
06:33 and, John, I'm seeing things now,
06:35 we are seeing things now that's never happened before.
06:38 These stories are just absolutely incredible.
06:41 And we're going to talk about some of those today.
06:42 That's right.
06:43 Well, honey, since you're the only woman on here
06:45 and there's only one lady on the other side.
06:47 Why don't you go ahead and introduce the next one.
06:48 Okay, now you have a difficult last name.
06:54 And your name is Cami Oetman.
06:57 That's right. Cami Oetman.
06:58 Yeah.
07:00 Yeah. Welcome, Cami. Thank you so much.
07:01 I'm excited to be here and I'm excited to be with AWR.
07:04 Yeah, I've seen you on 3ABN watching AWR and...
07:09 We love being here at 3ABN.
07:11 You are a great hostess.
07:13 And next to you.
07:15 My name is Jeff Wilson.
07:17 I retired in 2010 and went to work for AWR
07:20 as a field representative
07:22 in planned giving and trust services.
07:24 Okay, we're going to talk about that.
07:25 Enjoyed every minute of that.
07:27 Good to have you here today. Thank you.
07:28 And somebody who I've known for a while.
07:30 I've known you since you were a little boy, Ed.
07:34 You know, not really. That's a long time ago.
07:35 But we've been...
07:37 We've known each other for quite some time.
07:38 Yes, indeed.
07:40 Praise the Lord to be back again.
07:41 And good to have you here. Thank you.
07:42 You're with Adventist...
07:44 Tell us, are you with Adventist World Radio right now?
07:45 Well, yes.
07:46 Interestingly enough, I was involved
07:48 with Adventist World Radio before I retired even
07:50 and I'm glad that I'm still with them.
07:52 It's been a blessing to me
07:53 and I'm sure has been too many other people
07:55 that we've contacted.
07:56 We'll let you know about some of those
07:58 as we talk today.
07:59 And you've been a lawyer for a number of years.
08:01 Yes, I am.
08:02 Yes, I remember a project we worked on together
08:03 and praise God,
08:05 you're also in trust services and stewardship
08:06 at the General Conference, that was one...
08:08 Teaching money management.
08:09 Money management, which is a good thing to do now
08:11 as you're with Adventist World Radio.
08:13 Let's dive in
08:14 and talk a little bit about Adventist World Radio
08:16 and the project today,
08:17 we're talking about you cannot outgive God.
08:21 That's a powerful testimony.
08:22 We know that in our own lives.
08:24 Amen, we can't.
08:25 And for something to be around for 50 years,
08:27 that principle has to be true.
08:28 We'll dive in with you and talk about that.
08:31 John, we're excited to be here with you.
08:33 And it's a great partnership we have with 3ABN
08:36 and we just love doing projects with you
08:39 and we thank you for all that you do for us
08:41 by inviting us to come back and tell these stories.
08:44 I grew up in Oklahoma, on a farm and...
08:50 dairy farm, milked lots of cows.
08:52 And I...
08:54 When I left I'd always go back and help my parents.
08:56 And one thing I noticed about cows.
09:01 It takes nine months for a baby calf to be born.
09:05 You know, all the...
09:07 Just like people. Just like a human being.
09:08 Yeah, yeah.
09:10 You know, elephants, I think it's about two years,
09:11 and a horse is 11 months.
09:13 I told my wife it was two years for an elephant, she gasped.
09:17 You're not gonna get an elephant.
09:19 But they never, almost never, once in a while...
09:22 Well, in 40 years, I saw one set of twins.
09:25 One set of twins.
09:27 We have a video.
09:28 Cami. Yes.
09:29 And the reason he's showing us
09:31 because an incredible miracle has taken place in Tanzania
09:35 with the Maasai tribe.
09:37 We were able to go to Tanzania and document this,
09:41 the story of how when you're faithful to God,
09:44 God is faithful to you.
09:46 And with the Maasai tribe,
09:49 cows are extremely important, it is their livelihood.
09:53 And so as you just heard Duane say
09:55 they rarely have twins,
09:57 but watch and see what God does.
09:59 Okay. With Abraham in this video.
10:01 Okay, let's go to the Abraham video right now.
10:07 With colorful clothes and herds of cattle,
10:10 the Maasai people are spread throughout this land.
10:14 Watch us when very wealthy Maasai tribal leader
10:17 does the unthinkable.
10:19 He puts his faith in God first before everything else.
10:22 This is AWR360A°.
10:39 We are in Tanzania,
10:40 a country famous for the Maasai people,
10:43 known for their distinctive customs
10:45 and brightly colored dress.
10:47 They welcomed me with a native jumping dance.
10:50 From a standing position
10:51 these warriors can vertically spring
10:53 over three feet high.
10:55 Their smiles made me feel right at home
10:58 and they even allowed me
10:59 to carry one of their precious babies.
11:02 I enjoyed every moment
11:03 and fell in love with these dear people
11:05 who received me with open arms.
11:09 The Maasai have a semi nomadic lifestyle.
11:12 Even this village we are at right now is temporary.
11:15 Every aspect of their lives revolves around their cattle.
11:19 The cows determine where the village moves
11:21 based on where the herds can eat grass.
11:24 Cattle is their currency and their main source of food.
11:28 Nothing is left to waste.
11:30 Even their huts are made of cow dung.
11:33 For a man to give away his cattle is foolish
11:36 and unheard of.
11:37 That's why Abraham's story is amazing.
11:40 He owns more than 1,000 cows.
11:56 I have over 1,000 cows
11:58 and I'm considered rich by my Maasai people,
12:02 but something was missing in my life.
12:06 Abraham's heart was convicted at an evangelistic series,
12:10 and he became a baptized member
12:11 of the Seventh-day Adventist Church.
12:15 Most Massai cannot read or write
12:17 so they learn from the radio.
12:19 Abraham was overjoyed when he tuned in AWR.
12:24 It was a topic of tithing
12:25 that really caught his attention.
12:33 They spoke of faithfulness and trusting God,
12:36 and that 10% belongs to Him.
12:40 As his eyes took in all that he owned,
12:43 he knew what he had to do.
12:45 In that moment, he made a commitment.
12:48 Like Jacob of old, he marked every 10th cow.
12:51 By the time he was finished,
12:53 more than 100 cows have been designated for God.
12:57 My friends and neighbors thought I was crazy.
13:01 To the Massai 100 cows is worth about $30,000.
13:06 You just don't give away
13:08 the most important resource you own.
13:10 Despite the ridicule,
13:11 Abraham remained faithful to God.
13:15 His neighbors stopped laughing nine months later.
13:18 They were shocked to see
13:19 that many of Abraham's cows gave birth to twins
13:23 and his sheep triplets.
13:26 Cows rarely have twins.
13:29 It's considered historic when they do.
13:31 Immediately everyone understood
13:33 that this miracle came from a higher power.
13:36 After the Maasai witnessed Abraham's faithfulness,
13:39 they approached the union president,
13:41 Pastor Godwin Lekundayo and said,
13:44 "We want to tithe too."
13:46 Pastor Godwin was amazed and said, "Are you Adventist?"
13:50 They replied, "No, but we want God to bless us
13:54 just like he's blessing Abraham."
13:56 And praise the Lord,
13:58 nine months later their cows had twins too.
14:03 Here is something else amazing.
14:05 Every time a thief would steal any of Abraham's cattle,
14:09 the cows would always return home,
14:12 as if guided by unseen hands.
14:15 Now thieves fear stealing from Abraham.
14:20 I praise God for Adventist World Radio.
14:25 Abraham credits AWR for changing his life.
14:29 Everyone sees that the more he gives,
14:32 the more he is blessed.
14:37 Thanks to Abraham's testimony.
14:38 Today, over 80 Maasai have accepted Jesus
14:42 and have been baptized.
14:44 And all of them now listen to Adventist World Radio.
14:55 These kinds of miracles
14:57 not only happened a long time ago,
14:59 they're happening today,
15:01 our heavenly Father is ready to multiply your blessings.
15:04 The unreachable are being reached
15:06 by Adventist World Radio.
15:08 Together, we can finish the work.
15:10 We need your faithful prayers and dedicated support.
15:13 We all can look forward to the day
15:15 when we see the fruits of our labor
15:17 and praise God for allowing us to be part of His good work.
15:21 This is AWR360A°.
15:34 What an amazing story.
15:35 I'm blown away.
15:37 Wow, when Abraham trusted God and gave his tithe...
15:41 Yes.
15:42 That the rest of that text is "I will rebuke the devourer."
15:46 And as I'm looking at that, Cami, and all of us,
15:49 the cows started coming back home by themselves
15:52 by God's guidance,
15:53 and the devourer came to take, the lord rebuked the devourer.
15:56 It's amazing. They have twins.
15:58 Yes, all of the cattle had twins
16:01 and then his friends that started to pay tithe,
16:04 their cows started to have twins.
16:05 But you have to understand too. Yeah.
16:07 That when he was, you know, he's counting his cows out
16:10 one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, tithe.
16:14 And the neighbors were there laughing and making fun of him
16:17 saying "He's lost his mind."
16:18 Give away all that money. Yeah.
16:20 Then nine months later they watch,
16:22 they can't believe it.
16:24 Yeah, you have twins and triplets.
16:25 Yeah, his cattle is just, I mean, you can have...
16:28 It's expanding and expanding and now he's even more known
16:31 but, you know, God is using him as an incredible example there
16:36 across the Maasai tribes in Tanzania.
16:38 I think this is a wonderful thing
16:40 that we as Christians need to know.
16:43 We need to realize that as we trust God,
16:46 take Him and His promise, He will bless.
16:48 His scoop shovel pitched there on the farm,
16:50 His scoop shovel is bigger than ours.
16:52 His scoop shovel, I like that.
16:54 And then He owns the cattle on a...
16:58 Thousand hills. That's right.
17:00 This story is becoming a pun to me.
17:01 But a spiritual God there's no way
17:03 that you can outgive God.
17:05 Ed, tell us this amazing story about the guitar?
17:08 Well, it's very interesting to me that,
17:10 this is just an illustration.
17:12 But I think that God has given His people
17:14 enough resources and assets to finish the work.
17:16 Amen.
17:18 And it's just a matter of how we motivate people
17:19 to do something like that.
17:21 It may interest you to know that just...
17:23 was nine years ago, I was here at 3ABN.
17:25 We did a program on Adventist World Radio.
17:28 And I demonstrated those little radios.
17:29 You may remember we did crank it up.
17:30 I remember that. Yeah, that wind up.
17:32 Well, someone called the GC office right after that
17:35 and said, "We have a guitar we'd like to donate."
17:38 And it's very interesting to me
17:39 that the person that answered the phone
17:43 was the young lady who said,
17:45 "I don't think we take guitars."
17:47 Usually folks have cash or liquid assets.
17:49 But this was a guitar.
17:51 And she said, "Well, let me speak with Ed Reid."
17:52 So they transferred the call to me
17:54 and I called him back and he said,
17:55 "Yeah, I have a guitar I'd like to donate,"
17:58 but it's not something to take to a flea market on Sunday
18:00 and sell for $500.
18:02 This is a real expensive guitar.
18:04 And it turns out that it was a 1935 edition
18:08 of Gibson's Super 400 archtop guitar,
18:11 which they only made 63
18:12 in their whole history of Gibson guitars.
18:15 And there was a huge guitar,
18:17 one to lead a band because it was...
18:19 in those days nothing was electrified.
18:21 It was supposed to be the loudest guitar.
18:24 And anyway, when I got it, he said,
18:25 "Now, I want you to take this to Nashville
18:27 and get it appraised
18:29 by George Gruhn of Gruhn's Guitar
18:30 'cause he used to work for Gibson
18:32 and knew the value and written a book about it."
18:34 When I took it there, George said to me,
18:35 "Where did you get this?"
18:37 Well, this is interesting
18:38 because Beck and Sherulthine
18:41 who lived in Juliet, Idaho and still do there.
18:44 They had had it for 50 years in their collection.
18:47 But he said to me something
18:48 that I want you guys to understand.
18:50 He said "I do not want this to get burned up at the end.
18:52 I want it to do something good for God."
18:54 Amen. Wow.
18:55 Isn't that interesting?
18:57 That's the whole point of it really.
18:58 But yeah, I took it to George,
18:59 where did you get this and so on.
19:01 They put blue light cameras down
19:02 and looked at all over and he said,
19:03 "You follow this wherever you go."
19:05 There for four stories in their building in Nashville.
19:07 He said "$16,000 is what it's worth."
19:10 Wow.
19:11 Four months later, we sold it for $20,000.
19:13 Amen. Wow.
19:15 And he said to Sharon, his wife,
19:17 "I wonder how many of these digital radios this would make?"
19:19 Amen. Yeah.
19:23 That to me was an encouragement more to me than to them.
19:26 But we've all been friends since that time.
19:28 And it's amazing to see how many people feel like,
19:31 "Well, I could do something."
19:32 And that's why we mentioned the guitar store.
19:35 It was actually featured in our transmissions,
19:37 you know, nine years ago.
19:39 But it continues to inspire me and many other people to think
19:42 you don't have to be very wealthy
19:43 to see something happen to advance the cause of God.
19:46 They were willing to do that.
19:48 Beautiful.
19:49 That's amazing.
19:51 You know, so when we think
19:52 it's just an instrument to be played,
19:54 the value and that's the perceived value
19:57 and the actual value is what we often miss.
20:00 But also let's add the other component.
20:02 The Lord multiplies the value,
20:04 when He knows it's going to be contributed to His work.
20:06 Beyond the appraisal. Beyond the appraisal.
20:09 And that's amazing.
20:10 So do you guys still accept guitars?
20:14 I think right now you'll accept anything.
20:16 Because God can turn one man's junk
20:20 into another man's treasure.
20:21 By no means is a guitar junk by it,
20:22 that's not the connection.
20:24 But praise God for moving hearts.
20:26 Dr. Lang video.
20:27 Sure.
20:29 That's my wife's brother...
20:30 Kathy, my wife, her brother and sister-in-law,
20:34 went to medical school and he did
20:35 and they moved to Florida,
20:37 and had a good practice down there and retired,
20:39 moved up all the way up to Tennessee.
20:43 And he came to one of our three...
20:45 We do awareness mission Sabbaths,
20:48 and he came to one of those and was so impressed.
20:50 Actually, he's very, he's German from North Dakota.
20:53 And very shy, I guess what he is.
20:57 He would never get up front,
20:58 but she talked him into go
21:00 in to preach a series of evangelistic meeting
21:02 just like...
21:05 I should probably begin with, we'll come to that later...
21:07 It changes life and this video,
21:11 you'll really enjoy about what he...
21:14 What they...
21:16 How they were influenced to really help.
21:17 Okay. I like to see that.
21:19 Finish the work. Yeah.
21:20 Dr. Lang video, let's check it out.
21:22 Let's see it.
21:30 I grew up a farm boy in North Dakota
21:35 till I went away to Union College
21:37 and met and married this young lady.
21:43 And two weeks before our fourth child was born,
21:47 we started medical school
21:49 and moved up here to this delightful Ooltewah,
21:53 Tennessee area and so we love it here.
22:01 When we went to the rally here and saw what AWR is doing,
22:06 and how they could get into areas
22:09 where far as I know, no other ministries can reach
22:15 and some of the stories that were given with Cami
22:20 and places they'd gone and Duane,
22:23 that really impressed me and I said
22:25 "This is a really worthy ministry."
22:30 I met Jeff Wilson
22:31 who said he could do our will and trust here.
22:37 It was painless.
22:39 It went smoothly, Jeff took care of it all
22:41 and to get the trust without any out of pocket costs
22:47 was way beyond what I expected.
23:02 Now, does God ever run into a wall?
23:05 Never. Never.
23:07 Okay.
23:08 So this Dr. Lang's video,
23:12 how did this encourage your faith?
23:14 Oh, actually, for my wife a lot and for me too,
23:18 he was in very good, health, retired, went to Tennessee,
23:24 like southern and here a couple months ago
23:26 he was on a ladder and fell off the ladder
23:29 and he died then.
23:31 So this is very meaningful to our family.
23:34 But again, it's a, you know, as we work together,
23:38 like I think they had said or Jeff,
23:42 one of you said that, you know, there is...
23:44 God has plenty of resources to finish the work.
23:46 And I believe I'm seeing things now
23:49 like I've never seen before.
23:50 After 40 years of international evangelism,
23:53 God is doing something in incredible always.
23:55 We're seeing, we're seeing rebels.
23:57 We're seeing drug cartel.
23:59 We're seeing some of the worst assassins
24:03 in the world coming to know Jesus.
24:05 Amen. Wow.
24:06 It's just amazing. Time is short.
24:07 You know, that's the mission of Christ.
24:09 He's come to seek and to save those who are lost.
24:11 Yeah.
24:12 And He said to the Pharisees,
24:14 "Because you say you are, well, I can't help you."
24:17 You don't need a physician.
24:19 But so it doesn't matter the condition
24:21 because God is... Jesus is the master physician.
24:25 Now, Jeff, the Doreen testimony,
24:27 tell us about that.
24:28 Doreen is a special friend of mine.
24:32 We met about six years ago,
24:34 but way back in April 24 of 1993,
24:39 she sent $10, 12 months to Adventist World Radio.
24:43 And over the years that $10 became $20, and $25,
24:47 and $50, and $100, and $500.
24:51 I only had a post office box,
24:54 but I was under impression from the Lord
24:55 I needed to visit this woman
24:57 and that's when she'd given
24:59 probably about $80,000 to our ministry.
25:03 I had just out of post office box
25:04 and I finally found a number that worked.
25:07 And I called and I got her husband.
25:10 And he was a very reclusive type man.
25:13 And he said, "Well, you can't come
25:14 and visit my house."
25:16 But it was kind of funny
25:17 because he answered the phone and I could hear him say,
25:19 "Doreen, the head honcho from Adventist World Radio
25:22 is on the line to talk to you."
25:25 And I was trying to say how do I respond to her
25:27 'cause I didn't know I was a honcho,
25:29 let alone a head honcho.
25:31 But we met at a grocery store, and we talked
25:34 and she shared with me her excitement
25:37 about reaching people
25:38 that can't be reached in any other way.
25:41 And I started teaching sometimes
25:42 in her Sabbath school class at Caringbah Church.
25:46 And one day Doreen said to me,
25:51 "We have all this artwork."
25:52 And her house was full of...
25:56 If you buy at Walmart it's called a vase,
25:58 if you buy at those fancy stores it's a vase.
26:01 Vases. Annunciation.
26:03 Vases. Yes.
26:05 Some of them six feet tall
26:06 and some small ones in the cabinets.
26:08 Hundreds and hundreds of these.
26:10 She and her husband had travelled the world on...
26:13 not on cruise ships but on merchant ships
26:16 because he didn't like people.
26:18 They even were at Pitcairn three times.
26:20 And she said...
26:22 I said, "But, Doreen, this is your life.
26:23 These have so many memories."
26:25 She says, "I want this...
26:26 It's just stuff.
26:28 I want it to help finish God's work."
26:32 So I think we have a picture there of Doreen
26:35 in her kitchen,
26:36 and another picture
26:38 with a young man named Jim Fren.
26:41 Jim, we found Jim by God's grace.
26:45 He actually has a business of estate sales.
26:50 And he told us...
26:52 you know, Japanese artwork, Chinese artwork,
26:55 German stein's, walking sticks, ivory,
26:58 people used to collect this stuff,
27:00 they don't collect it anymore.
27:01 You know, same with stamps and coins.
27:03 They're not worth what they used to be
27:05 in the old days.
27:06 But he said, "I'm committed to this.
27:09 This is for God's work."
27:10 He wasn't an Adventist but...
27:12 And by God's grace, he sold it.
27:15 And we got a little over $80,000 for her artwork.
27:20 And I went back to visit Doreen and her walls are bare
27:23 and their shelves are bare.
27:25 And I said "Doreen,
27:26 aren't you sad for losing all this?"
27:28 And she had this huge smile on her face
27:30 that you measured with a yardstick not a ruler.
27:33 She said, "No, it's going to benefit God's work."
27:37 We started talking to her
27:41 about our estate plan.
27:44 When her husband Richard died a few years ago,
27:47 all they had was what we call a holographic will.
27:50 That means a will that you wrote out by hand.
27:53 And this was an estate
27:54 that was worth several million dollars,
27:56 and it was going to be transferred
27:58 by a handwritten will,
27:59 not an attorney had had anything to do with.
28:02 Well, we prayed a lot over that.
28:04 And we got a good attorney to represent her.
28:07 And she told me when she went in to see the judge,
28:09 the judge said,
28:11 "How many years were you married to Richard?"
28:13 And she said, "Sixty seven."
28:14 He said, "Case dismissed.
28:16 Everything goes to her."
28:17 Because in this handwritten will,
28:19 he said, she had lived like 90 days
28:21 or something, and so forth.
28:22 Anyway, so then we had a very good attorney
28:25 assist her and her son David,
28:28 came back with her from the attorney's office
28:30 when they signed the documents.
28:32 And she said...
28:34 And David said to me, "Elder Wilson,
28:35 I want you know that my sister and I
28:37 are totally behind what our mother is doing.
28:40 And in her will she leaves a million dollars in cash
28:44 to Adventist World Radio and her home.
28:46 And at this point, our home is worth $1 million.
28:51 So $10 over about a 27 year period,
28:55 more and more commitment to God.
28:56 But what we are seeing is in our donors
29:01 and you see it with your donors at 3ABN as well.
29:04 They have a feeling that we're near the end.
29:06 Yeah. That's right.
29:07 Jesus is coming soon.
29:09 We need to put it in God's work now,
29:11 we don't want it in our pocket when God comes
29:14 and Doreen is a wonderful story
29:17 of that in a person's life
29:21 who is very, very committed to the Lord.
29:24 And that commitment grows, yeah.
29:25 Amen.
29:27 And once again, it's true you cannot outgive God.
29:30 If you look at the cadence here, honey,
29:31 we're looking at the ways that God sustains His work.
29:34 And the point that you made is very well taken.
29:36 We're living in the time of the end
29:37 and you think about all the things
29:39 that people possess.
29:40 We are praying that you possess things
29:42 and things don't possess you.
29:44 Because these things really as you pointed out, Jeff,
29:47 I think they got in flames one day.
29:49 The guitar, you know,
29:50 what happens when the house gets set on fire
29:52 and we saw an example of that in the Paradise fire
29:54 and you can imagine multiple,
29:56 millions of possessions just went up in flames,
29:59 and could not help the work of the Lord at all.
30:01 So God allows these small tragedies
30:03 to help us see that either it has value now
30:06 to advance the cause of God or one day,
30:09 you know, our riches, as James says,
30:10 will be crank up as a witness against us.
30:13 So if you think about supporting the work of God,
30:15 and you're surrounded with stuff,
30:17 you know, we're getting older, chronology doesn't reverse.
30:21 The best time to support the work of God is now.
30:23 Now what do we have, honey?
30:24 Now, Ed, you want to share a story with us, don't you,
30:27 about Alice Hammond?
30:29 I do indeed.
30:30 Kathy and I did some visiting in Washington State
30:32 a few years ago, and we met a dear lady,
30:34 a retired schoolteacher.
30:35 She taught in the Adventist elementary school system
30:38 for many years.
30:39 And still daily prays for all the students
30:41 that she had, and so on and loves them and so on,
30:43 a dear sweet lady.
30:44 And we told her about the way that she could support.
30:47 She was doing a monthly thing,
30:48 a small amount each month.
30:50 But then she called me back and she said,
30:52 "I think I'm ready to do something bigger."
30:54 So I went to see her and this is an amazing story.
30:57 I flew into Seattle,
30:58 and I put in my GPS Bremerton, Washington
31:01 and I was thinking about going south on I5,
31:03 then up the other side as many of you have done before
31:05 around the Puget Sound.
31:07 But my GPS took me a strange way
31:10 and ended up right at the ferry.
31:12 So I'm going to take the ferry across
31:13 that's going around, it was actually cheaper.
31:15 It's only like $5 Washington State ferry system.
31:19 At sundown it's real beautiful right over there
31:21 but when I got over there,
31:23 there's these huge aircraft carriers
31:25 bigger than cities in there
31:27 'cause that's the Bremerton Naval airbase, Naval shipyard.
31:30 Okay.
31:31 Well, this has a point to it as well.
31:33 But anyway, when I went to see Alice Hammond,
31:35 she said, "I've decided to do an annuity
31:38 with Adventist World Radio."
31:39 And she said, "I wish I had more,
31:41 but it's only 150,000."
31:43 This is a retired Adventist schoolteacher.
31:45 This is amazing because she said,
31:47 "I don't want to die
31:48 with a lot of stuff in my possession.
31:49 I want it to go to the cause of God and so on."
31:51 So this is incredible to me that this happened.
31:54 The reason I mentioned her by name
31:55 is we used to keep everybody fairly private as you know,
31:58 but she passed away this year.
31:59 So most of that came
32:01 into the Adventist World Radio already
32:03 but since I was already over there,
32:05 I was looking around on our website,
32:08 our private donor base...
32:11 Donor list.
32:13 And I found that someone had just contributed
32:14 $10,000 in cash
32:17 to the Arabic language ministry that we were starting up.
32:21 Now this is very interesting
32:22 because I called the person I said, Tim,
32:24 would it be all right
32:26 if I could stop by and see you?"
32:27 And I said...
32:28 you know, I thought when I made the appointment
32:30 that it was gonna be somebody my age
32:31 that was retired
32:33 and had their disposable assets and so on.
32:36 When I got there, however,
32:37 I thought I was at the wrong address
32:39 because the address was a basement apartment.
32:42 There wasn't a fancy car parked outside.
32:44 It was a used Toyota Corolla, an older model.
32:47 And when I talked, it was Tim and Kirsten Swope
32:50 when I got there.
32:51 They had just given $10,000.
32:53 Now they had just recently finished college.
32:55 She was expecting their first child
32:56 and how in the world they ever gave $10,000.
32:59 I had tears in my eyes
33:00 almost the whole time I was there,
33:01 I could not believe this.
33:03 And this is an amazing story that they did that.
33:06 And AWR prepared them a very nice plaque
33:10 with a picture of an Arab guy on it
33:11 and the language and thanked him and so on
33:13 and send it back to them and it's on their wall.
33:15 But the amazing part about it is it doesn't stop there.
33:17 The next summer, I was at ASI
33:19 and I was at a table at one of the meals.
33:21 And a couple sat by me and they said,
33:23 "We know you're from AWR, what's happening."
33:25 So I told him this story,
33:26 just about everybody around the table
33:28 got tears in their eyes and couldn't believe it.
33:29 So this couple were David and Esther Kim said to me,
33:33 "We want to do something."
33:35 They called me, they'd asked for one of my cards,
33:36 and about a month later they called me and said
33:38 "We want to make a pledge to the Lord.
33:40 We want to conceive a child.
33:43 And if that happens,
33:44 we're going to give $10,000 to AWR."
33:46 Wow. That was the Lord saying.
33:48 Taking the lead of the other one.
33:50 Yeah.
33:52 Then they said "When the child is born,
33:53 we're going to give another $10,000."
33:54 Wow.
33:56 Which they've done both.
33:57 And the interesting thing is they want to do
33:58 a special project
34:00 so just at that time the Doma project in Africa
34:01 was opening up and Duane said,
34:04 "Would you be interested in this project?"
34:05 Would they?
34:07 Yeah, they wanted to do something not just in general.
34:09 By not just the general donation.
34:10 Yeah. And so that's what they...
34:11 So it just keeps going
34:13 as people learn about these stories.
34:14 The amazing thing is,
34:16 even young people can do things.
34:17 That's what the point of this. Amen.
34:18 Yeah, I'm glad you brought that up
34:20 because a lot of times people think,
34:21 "Well, you know, we have to retire.
34:23 We got 40 years left, we got 30 years left,"
34:24 and in this world today,
34:25 all you have left is the next breath.
34:28 You don't have a whole lot of time.
34:29 But it's exciting to see that young people
34:32 in this altruistic society people are thinking
34:35 about how to advance the cause of God.
34:37 Yeah.
34:38 My question is, how many languages is AWR...
34:42 We're broadcasting in about 100,
34:43 just about 100 to 130
34:45 and we're expanding to 500, that's our goal.
34:48 Yes. Wow.
34:49 Wow. That's amazing.
34:50 We have 1,000 stations around the world
34:52 so we reach the globe,
34:53 from Guam alone we reach a third of the world.
34:56 Wow. On shortwave.
34:57 You still do the radio one.
34:58 Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yes.
35:00 We do that.
35:01 We do internet, we do shortwave,
35:02 we do DAB,
35:04 we're starting a new DAB station in all of Paris...
35:05 What is DAB?
35:07 Digital Audio Broadcasting.
35:08 Okay, yeah I got that.
35:10 So it's a brand new,
35:11 brand new in Europe and so we'll reach all of Paris.
35:14 We're doing the same thing in London,
35:15 we were reaching all London now 24/7.
35:17 And you know what?
35:18 The way the world is going nowadays it...
35:20 You don't have to knock on doors
35:21 or kick down doors, you can post,
35:23 just send it by satellite, by signal,
35:25 by some kind of digital media and it makes it there.
35:28 I don't know, are you familiar with the farmer video?
35:30 The farmer story?
35:32 Tell us about that. I love that.
35:33 Yes, this is a precious video of a man
35:37 that wanted to leave a legacy and...
35:40 And let's just roll the video
35:42 so you can see how God used him and what He's done in his life.
35:46 Okay.
35:53 I grew up in Indiana,
35:54 and I've been a farmer all my life.
35:57 My father, every time we plant a field,
36:01 when we got through we'd always kneel down
36:03 and have prayers.
36:04 We've done our part, now the Lord will do His,
36:07 and He always come through.
36:13 After praying about it,
36:14 my wife and I decided to do a gift annuity
36:17 through Adventist World Radio.
36:19 It goes to people that normally you're not going to hear.
36:23 And that's what our three angels' message
36:26 is all about, to every nation, kindred, tongue and people.
36:32 When you're a farmer,
36:33 you don't have a retirement plan.
36:35 It was a good way to supplement our retirement.
36:39 It's been a blessing to us,
36:41 and I know it's going to be a blessing
36:42 to those others around the world.
36:50 Yeah, I met Bill Mann,
36:52 he is a wonderful friend of mine
36:53 and we recently visited him in the hospital.
36:56 He fell and broke his shoulder.
36:59 And we took along the picture of this video
37:02 and he's so thrilled
37:03 that his testimony is being shared.
37:07 I did his...
37:08 helped him in his wife do their estate plan
37:10 couple of years ago.
37:12 And everybody, you know, you can't predict,
37:14 everybody thought Bill was gonna die
37:16 'cause he's a little bit overweight
37:17 and all that sort of thing.
37:19 Well, it was his very healthy wife
37:21 that had a brain aneurysm and died very quickly.
37:24 And it was...
37:26 It would have been a huge problem
37:27 had they not already set their estate plan in place,
37:31 which included a power of attorney for healthcare
37:34 and a living will.
37:36 That solved problems
37:37 that would have come up into the family
37:39 because they now knew what their mother wanted.
37:45 We along with 3ABN...
37:46 and Ed and I were just in the foyer
37:48 before this meeting started with Joe Hunt,
37:52 your panned giving director.
37:53 We are colleagues, we worked together.
37:56 Many of the people we work with, they don't...
37:58 Go ahead. They don't, right, Ed.
38:00 They don't want to leave to one ministry,
38:02 they want to leave to a broad ministry
38:04 that's reaching the world, worldwide.
38:07 And it's a joy to help people do what they want to do.
38:13 Sometimes people think, "Well, we're worried
38:15 because they're going to tell us how to give."
38:18 Giving is a very personal thing
38:20 between individual and the Lord.
38:22 And what we do is facilitate what they want to do
38:25 by bringing along the legal counsel
38:28 that they need to draft documents
38:30 and look at the bigger picture.
38:31 We want, Ellen White talked about preparing a plan
38:34 that stood the test of law.
38:37 And, of course, a holographic
38:39 will may or may not stand the test of law.
38:41 But if an attorney who's licensed
38:43 and that state has prepared that plan, it's strong.
38:47 And we are fighting the enemy,
38:50 and the enemy does not want even $1
38:52 to come into God's work
38:54 either now or through an estate plan.
38:56 So we're in a war
38:57 and we have to have very solid legal counsel on our side
39:01 to listen to what to people want to do,
39:04 and help them to do it.
39:06 And it's a blessing to them not only in their final gift,
39:11 but in their life right now to have their life in order.
39:15 We like to remind people
39:16 that if you have your estate plan in order,
39:19 you'll generally live 10 to 13 years
39:21 longer than if you don't...
39:23 I like to tell people
39:25 that because people are superstitious.
39:28 Well, if I plan for death, I'm gonna die.
39:31 I've found that all over the world.
39:33 The truth is people
39:35 who have their estate plan in order
39:37 also fasten their seat belts, they eat right,
39:39 they study their Bible, they live longer.
39:41 And they have less stress
39:42 because the will is not left up to whoever else.
39:46 Wow.
39:47 What about the Salt Lake City donor?
39:49 Well, that's another that's...
39:51 I was just there last week
39:52 to settle that up with the Schaffners,
39:55 sweet couple, Carl and Nancy.
39:58 It's a kind of a charitable gift annuity
40:00 we don't talk a lot about and we should more than we do.
40:04 Most people interested in a charitable gift annuity
40:06 are in their 70s or 80s or 90s.
40:08 And that's because the older you are,
40:11 the higher the return back to you.
40:13 You know that because you do a lot of those here
40:15 at 3ABN.
40:17 What Carl and Nancy did was something a little different.
40:19 It's called a deferred charitable gift annuity.
40:24 And what Carl was doing
40:25 is what a lot of younger people need to start doing.
40:28 You thought, think about planning for retirement,
40:32 you need to diversify.
40:34 You know, my parents dependent on social security,
40:36 that was enough.
40:37 That's not enough for anybody anymore.
40:39 You need social security,
40:40 you need hopefully a employment retirement plan,
40:45 but then you need other resources.
40:47 A deferred gift annuity is a contract
40:50 between the donor and 3ABN or Adventist World Radio,
40:54 or the church in which they make the gift now,
40:58 the church invests that gift,
41:00 but they don't receive their payments
41:02 till sometime in the future.
41:04 Which means they're getting a higher rate of return
41:06 when they get it.
41:07 What Carl did,
41:09 and a lot of people would think about this.
41:10 He's retiring this June.
41:12 When he does at 66,
41:14 but he doesn't want to take social security
41:16 till he gets to 70 because there'll be more.
41:19 So his payments,
41:20 his deferred gift annuity payments
41:22 are going to start in this June and fill in that gap
41:26 until he reaches his older retirement age
41:31 when he'll get more social security
41:32 than if he'd started at a younger time.
41:34 So we've done three with him
41:36 and they're very happy with those,
41:37 and we hope to do more
41:39 and some of the 3ABN donors would be interested
41:42 in that concept too.
41:43 I like the way you brought that out
41:45 that one of the things that you don't do
41:47 and we don't do either,
41:48 is to tell people how to invest in it.
41:50 Exactly.
41:51 To give it because the work of the Lord is a conviction
41:54 that God puts on each one of our hearts
41:56 and there are people that give here,
41:58 there are people who give to Adventist World Radio,
41:59 and other ministries, or even the church.
42:00 They give to both.
42:02 And they give.
42:03 I like the planned giving, the deferred annuities.
42:05 And so you might be interested
42:06 in finding out how and what the difference is.
42:09 And before the program is done,
42:10 we'll tell you how to get information
42:12 and even how to contact 3ABN to find out more about that.
42:14 Most of the people who give to us give to you too.
42:18 That's right. That's right.
42:19 We're partnering in it. Yeah, we are.
42:20 And tell all the world.
42:22 Yeah. Amen.
42:23 Now, Ed, what is the philosophy of giving?
42:25 Well, this is interesting.
42:27 And this is a little bit based on just my own view
42:30 of the charitable gift annuities that I have done.
42:32 Okay.
42:34 About 80% of them are done by widows.
42:37 So I just looked at a big long list of several dozen
42:39 that I've done
42:40 and men are here and there a little bit
42:42 but most of them are done by widows.
42:44 Now think about this...
42:46 The only offering that Jesus ever commanded
42:48 was to a widow lady
42:50 who gave her last two cents to the church
42:51 that was just about to kill him.
42:54 So even though the church may have problems,
42:55 God says "This is My church.
42:57 It's the apple of My eye."
42:59 Isn't that true? Amen.
43:00 So we will do the best we can.
43:02 So the most amazing thing is that frequently
43:05 when a lady becomes a widow,
43:07 the husband has had a major part
43:09 in the management of their money,
43:10 and they don't know what to do.
43:11 They've got investments here and investments there,
43:13 property here, property there, and so on.
43:15 And so, Jeff, and I talk to them
43:17 about several things first.
43:19 Are your debts all paid?
43:20 Do you have sufficient income through each month
43:21 to take care of your needs and so on?
43:23 Is your family taking care of your need
43:24 and helping and so on?
43:26 But when they have assets that are beyond that,
43:29 tangible assets, we say, why don't you get an annuity
43:32 that will assist you during your retirement years,
43:35 the balance will go to the God's
43:37 cause when you pass away.
43:38 And this is something else we tell people,
43:40 "If you want to you can revoke your interest
43:41 in your annuity,
43:43 and let the church have it right away.
43:45 Let's just say that things are winding up
43:46 and you just don't want the church
43:48 to keep paying you interest,
43:49 but you'd like to let them take the whole balance."
43:51 That's happened to several of mine already.
43:54 Very interesting point.
43:56 The reason I want to say what I did about the widows
43:58 is that we want them to simplify their lives
44:00 so they don't have to worry about the stock market
44:02 or anything like that.
44:03 They can be involved in helping
44:05 to make sure the cause of God goes forward.
44:08 Now, here's my last little bit of philosophy,
44:10 who of us wants to die with a big bank account?
44:14 Or with lots of assets.
44:16 And I thought to myself, Kathy and I,
44:17 this year gave a huge amount of my most we've ever done
44:19 to a new church project,
44:21 we're going to do more, we're trying to do more,
44:23 we want to make sure that when Jesus comes
44:24 we don't have a lot of money in the bank.
44:27 The goal of the Christian is to die penniless.
44:30 The trick is dismantling,
44:33 so you need to figure out how to do it
44:34 and you do your estate plan and so on
44:36 so the God's cause is remembered
44:37 even if you may not have your wits
44:39 about you at the end, you know.
44:40 And we also minimize the family squabbles.
44:42 Oh, absolutely.
44:44 A lot of times when people die, you know, I said
44:45 "Where there's a will there's a lot of relatives."
44:47 That's right.
44:50 They say, if you do your giving while you're living
44:52 then you knowing where it's going.
44:53 Say that again. Say it.
44:54 If you give your giving while you're living
44:56 then you knowing where it's going.
44:57 Did you hear that?
44:59 If you give while you're living
45:00 then you're knowing where it's going.
45:01 I like that. Had to write that down.
45:03 That should be buttoned you guys.
45:04 They should.
45:05 But, Jeff, talk about the donor with the matched challenge?
45:08 Well, this is such an interesting case.
45:10 Two years ago a lady called the office
45:13 and said she wanted to give a $50,000 matching gift.
45:17 In other words, if we could raise $50
45:20 based on her challenge, she would give us $50.
45:23 And usually we're encouraging people to give,
45:25 this was a case where I said,
45:27 "I want to come and talk to you first."
45:29 And I went to talk to her.
45:31 And she asked us to keep her name anonymous,
45:34 and we're going to do that.
45:36 But she lived in a very humble home.
45:40 Now there are mobile homes and there are trailer houses,
45:44 she lived in a trailer house, that's a difference.
45:47 She had been widowed more than once.
45:50 And I said, "Can you do this?"
45:52 And she said, "Yes, I can do this."
45:55 She said, "I've done it for Quiet Hour,
45:56 I've done it for one of our mission schools."
45:59 But she says "I have just a couple of things.
46:01 Is it okay if I give $25,000 in 2018
46:06 and $25,000 in 2019,
46:08 what would you say?
46:09 What do I say?
46:11 Then she said, "Give me a week or two.
46:13 I've got to put some resources together
46:15 and I will send you a check which she did.
46:17 Wow.
46:18 And I just visited her a few days ago
46:21 to give her a report.
46:22 And the report was that her $50,000 challenge
46:26 grant from a widow's mite you might say,
46:29 she was a retired church schoolteacher,
46:32 twice a widow,
46:35 196 people had given
46:39 a little over $54,000
46:42 to match her $50,000.
46:45 And she had a huge smile on her face.
46:48 You know, like Ed said... Did you say 194 people?
46:51 When you give while you're living,
46:53 you get the joy of giving.
46:55 Yeah. Wow.
46:56 You expect... When we give in our estate plan,
46:58 we were just making sure
47:00 that God gets what He loaned us.
47:02 But when we give while we're living
47:04 we see the souls win,
47:05 we see the quality broadcasts at 3ABN,
47:09 we see new areas being entered,
47:10 we see getting into remote, impossible places.
47:15 We see what Jesus said was the sign
47:19 that His coming was there
47:21 and that is when the gospel goes to every nation,
47:24 kindred, tongue, and people.
47:26 Wow.
47:27 We see the hurricanes, we see the crime,
47:29 we see all of this,
47:31 but the gospel going to every nation,
47:33 kindred, tongue and people is a sign of the end
47:35 and that's what we see today.
47:37 Amen. Yes.
47:38 Beautiful. With your partnership and ours.
47:39 Yes. Okay.
47:41 Yeah. Now, Cami.
47:42 Yes.
47:43 Let's talk about Papua New Guinea?
47:45 Let's.
47:46 You know, the Holy Spirit is moving all over this world
47:48 on people's hearts to give what they can now
47:51 so that we can finish the work together.
47:53 And I believe we can do that in this generation.
47:56 There is this couple named Ellen and Simon
47:59 in Papua New Guinea,
48:00 our team was just there and met with them.
48:03 They were Sunday pastors, both of them,
48:06 with seven children.
48:09 They came across the AWR broadcasts
48:12 and evangelistic series
48:13 and things that are happening there in Papua New Guinea
48:15 and they have fallen in love with the truth in the Bible.
48:18 Fallen in Jesus, fall in love with Jesus
48:20 and want to become Seventh-day Adventists.
48:23 Now they are not baptized yet,
48:25 but they will be
48:26 when we have our big evangelistic series coming up,
48:29 which both of you know very well about.
48:31 We'll talk about that in a minute.
48:33 But this precious family are so on fire for the Lord
48:38 that they have decided sacrificially
48:41 to tear down their home and erect a church building
48:46 so that all the community in their surrounding area
48:49 will come to the Seventh-day Adventist Church.
48:53 The little hut behind that building
48:55 that you see there,
48:56 all nine of them are living in a little hut right now.
49:00 Talk about giving everything you've got.
49:03 And this church will be used mightily
49:07 and it will be overflowing
49:09 and it will start other churches nearby.
49:11 We just know it. Incredible, right?
49:13 People are moved now to really do something amazing
49:17 all over this world for the Lord.
49:18 Yeah, and the Lord picks the place
49:20 where He wants His blessing...
49:21 That's right.
49:23 And New Guinea is an amazing place.
49:24 Let's talk about that, can we? We have a project with ASI.
49:29 Yes.
49:31 And us, and Papua New Guinea, that church that you saw,
49:33 we can put a roof on that church
49:36 for 800 bucks, $800.
49:39 The local people will build the church.
49:41 They'll take care of it and everything.
49:42 Put the material. They'll fill it.
49:43 They're just asking that we help
49:45 and so that'll be part of the offering with ASI.
49:47 And if people want to help and give ahead of time
49:49 they can give to 3ABN or to us AWR.
49:51 And just mark it P&G churches.
49:54 I think it's...
49:55 You think about that,
49:56 $800 you can put a roof on the church
49:58 and they will build it
49:59 and these people are not baptized yet.
50:01 They're not baptized yet.
50:02 That's what's amazing
50:03 is they're so willing to give everything they've got
50:05 before they're even baptized members.
50:07 And New Guinea is going to be blitz,
50:11 you know with evangelistic meetings.
50:12 Over 2,000 meetings,
50:14 we're doing health events right away.
50:16 We expect this to be the largest event
50:19 in the history of the Adventist church.
50:21 Wow.
50:22 Just... When was that?
50:24 Last April, we were there.
50:25 April, May.
50:26 And they had 300,000 people in the baptismal class
50:29 in one conference, in one mission.
50:30 Three hundred thousand?
50:32 They're holding them over to be baptized
50:33 during our meetings.
50:35 Wow.
50:36 And then we had our team just back there,
50:39 it's growing, 500,000, 500,000.
50:44 We have a secret
50:45 we're going to share on a future program,
50:47 well, not on this one.
50:48 But why not?
50:49 Well, you want to say it, honey?
50:51 Sure. Yeah.
50:52 Just go ahead and tell the secret.
50:53 Yeah, let's do it.
50:55 I'm gonna preach.
50:56 Amen.
50:58 I'm so nervous.
50:59 Amen. Good will bless.
51:00 Just for one week. Yeah.
51:02 Amen. Gotta be wonderful.
51:03 What a wonderful partnership we have together.
51:05 Praise the Lord, praise the Lord.
51:06 If the Lord...
51:07 the Lord is pulling all the stops out.
51:09 That's why we're gonna make sure
51:10 you get the information you need
51:11 to contact Adventist World Radio
51:13 to find out how you can participate either financially,
51:16 or boots on the ground
51:17 as one of those preaching the everlasting gospel.
51:20 Here's the information that you need.
51:24 Adventist World Radio's goal is to reach every person
51:27 with the saving message of God's love
51:28 through programs aired in the 200 plus
51:31 critically important languages spoken in the world.
51:34 If you would like to find out more about AWR,
51:36 or if you would like to support the evangelistic series
51:39 in Papua New Guinea,
51:40 please visit their website awr.org.
51:43 That's awr.org.
51:46 You may also contact them at 301-680-6304
51:52 or write to Adventist World Radio 12501,
51:56 Old Columbia Pike, Silver Spring, Maryland 20904.


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