I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Removing pain
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Lord, let my words
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Heal a heart that hurts
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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Hello, friends,
welcome to 3ABN Today.
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My name is John Lomacang
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and I have the best
co-pilot in the world.
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How you doing, honey?
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I'm happy, I'm excited,
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'cause you know I
work for 3ABN Radio.
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That's right.
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Anything to do with
radio I'm excited about.
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And this is
Adventist World Radio,
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you'll find out in just a moment
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what that's all about if
you've not heard about it,
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but if you have tuned in before,
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thank you for your prayers
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and your financial
support of this network
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as we continue
going and growing,
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getting ready for
the coming of the lord.
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Honey, we have so
much to cover today.
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I don't want to take a
lot of time on housekeeping.
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Yeah.
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What's the song
that we have for today?
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Scott Michael Bennett
is going to share a song
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called You Raise Me Up.
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When I am down
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And, oh, my soul, so weary
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When troubles come
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And my heart burdened be
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Then, I am still
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And wait here in the silence
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Until you come
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And sit awhile with me
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You raise me up
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So I can stand on mountains
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You raise me up
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To walk on stormy seas
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Oh, I am strong
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When I am on your shoulders
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You raise me up
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To more than I can be
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There is no life
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No life without its hunger
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Each restless heart
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Beats so imperfectly
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But then you come
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And I am filled with wonder
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Sometimes I think
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I glimpse eternity
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You raise me up
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So I can stand on mountains
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You raise me up
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To walk on stormy seas
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I am strong
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When I am on your shoulders
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You raise me up
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To more than I can be
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You raise me up
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So I can stand on mountains
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You raise me up
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To walk on stormy seas
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I am strong
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When I am on your shoulders
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You raise me up
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To more than I can be
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You raise me up
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To more than I can be
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Thank you so much, Scott.
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That song is a wonderful segue
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because God
raises every one of us up
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for a particular purpose.
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And our guests today are
no exception to that rule.
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They have been
raised up for such a time
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as this to take radio
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and the wonderful
gospel around the world.
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So let's go ahead
and meet them right now.
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Let's do it.
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To my immediate
right is Duane McKey.
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Good to have you here, Duane.
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I'll extend my
hand and shake yours.
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Thank you. Thank you.
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I don't think my arm is long
enough for the rest of them.
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But Adventist World Radio,
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first of all,
good to have you back.
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Thank you so much.
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My wife and I have been
on a program with you before.
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It's always good because we know
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you're on the front
lines of the gospel as we are
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and kind of for those
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who may be
watching for the first time
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or listening,
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tell us what is
Adventist World Radio?
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Who you are all?
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Yeah, we reach
the world on radio.
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I tell people you go to
the scariest place on earth,
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the most desolate place, the...
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You go to North Korea
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or to the
jungles of South America
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where the drug
cartel control the land
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and AWR's there.
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If not, we will be
there soon by God's grace.
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So that's our plan.
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We've been going for 50 years,
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broadcasting the good
news that Jesus is coming soon
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and, John, I'm
seeing things now,
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we are seeing things now
that's never happened before.
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These stories are
just absolutely incredible.
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And we're going to talk
about some of those today.
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That's right.
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Well, honey, since
you're the only woman on here
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and there's only one
lady on the other side.
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Why don't you go ahead
and introduce the next one.
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Okay, now you have
a difficult last name.
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And your name is Cami Oetman.
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That's right. Cami Oetman.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. Welcome,
Cami. Thank you so much.
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I'm excited to be here and
I'm excited to be with AWR.
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Yeah, I've seen you on
3ABN watching AWR and...
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We love being here at 3ABN.
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You are a great hostess.
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And next to you.
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My name is Jeff Wilson.
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I retired in 2010
and went to work for AWR
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as a field representative
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in planned giving
and trust services.
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Okay, we're going
to talk about that.
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Enjoyed every minute of that.
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Good to have you
here today. Thank you.
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And somebody who
I've known for a while.
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I've known you since
you were a little boy, Ed.
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You know, not really.
That's a long time ago.
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But we've been...
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We've known each
other for quite some time.
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Yes, indeed.
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Praise the Lord
to be back again.
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And good to have
you here. Thank you.
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You're with Adventist...
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Tell us, are you with
Adventist World Radio right now?
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Well, yes.
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Interestingly
enough, I was involved
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with Adventist World
Radio before I retired even
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and I'm glad that
I'm still with them.
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It's been a blessing to me
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and I'm sure has
been too many other people
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that we've contacted.
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We'll let you know
about some of those
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as we talk today.
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And you've been a
lawyer for a number of years.
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Yes, I am.
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Yes, I remember a
project we worked on together
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and praise God,
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you're also in trust
services and stewardship
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at the General
Conference, that was one...
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Teaching money management.
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Money management, which
is a good thing to do now
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as you're with
Adventist World Radio.
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Let's dive in
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and talk a little bit
about Adventist World Radio
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and the project today,
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we're talking about
you cannot outgive God.
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That's a powerful testimony.
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We know that in our own lives.
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Amen, we can't.
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And for something to
be around for 50 years,
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that principle has to be true.
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We'll dive in with
you and talk about that.
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John, we're excited
to be here with you.
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And it's a great
partnership we have with 3ABN
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and we just love
doing projects with you
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and we thank you for
all that you do for us
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by inviting us to come
back and tell these stories.
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I grew up in
Oklahoma, on a farm and...
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dairy farm, milked lots of cows.
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And I...
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When I left I'd always
go back and help my parents.
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And one thing I
noticed about cows.
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It takes nine months
for a baby calf to be born.
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You know, all the...
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Just like people.
Just like a human being.
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Yeah, yeah.
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You know, elephants, I
think it's about two years,
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and a horse is 11 months.
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I told my wife it was two years
for an elephant, she gasped.
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You're not
gonna get an elephant.
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But they never, almost
never, once in a while...
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Well, in 40 years, I
saw one set of twins.
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One set of twins.
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We have a video.
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Cami. Yes.
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And the reason he's showing us
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because an incredible miracle
has taken place in Tanzania
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with the Maasai tribe.
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We were able to go to
Tanzania and document this,
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the story of how when
you're faithful to God,
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God is faithful to you.
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And with the Maasai tribe,
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cows are extremely important,
it is their livelihood.
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And so as you
just heard Duane say
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they rarely have twins,
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but watch and see what God does.
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Okay. With
Abraham in this video.
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Okay, let's go to the
Abraham video right now.
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With colorful
clothes and herds of cattle,
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the Maasai people are
spread throughout this land.
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Watch us when very
wealthy Maasai tribal leader
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does the unthinkable.
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He puts his faith in God
first before everything else.
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This is AWR360A°.
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We are in Tanzania,
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a country famous
for the Maasai people,
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known for their
distinctive customs
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and brightly colored dress.
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They welcomed me with
a native jumping dance.
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From a standing position
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these warriors
can vertically spring
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over three feet high.
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Their smiles made
me feel right at home
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and they even allowed me
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to carry one of
their precious babies.
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I enjoyed every moment
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and fell in love
with these dear people
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who received me with open arms.
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The Maasai have a
semi nomadic lifestyle.
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Even this village we are
at right now is temporary.
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Every aspect of their lives
revolves around their cattle.
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The cows determine
where the village moves
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based on where the
herds can eat grass.
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Cattle is their currency
and their main source of food.
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Nothing is left to waste.
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Even their huts
are made of cow dung.
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For a man to give
away his cattle is foolish
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and unheard of.
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That's why
Abraham's story is amazing.
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He owns more than 1,000 cows.
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I have over 1,000 cows
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and I'm considered
rich by my Maasai people,
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but something was
missing in my life.
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Abraham's heart was convicted
at an evangelistic series,
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and he became a baptized member
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of the
Seventh-day Adventist Church.
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Most Massai cannot read or write
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so they learn from the radio.
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Abraham was
overjoyed when he tuned in AWR.
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It was a topic of tithing
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that really
caught his attention.
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They spoke of
faithfulness and trusting God,
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and that 10% belongs to Him.
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As his eyes took
in all that he owned,
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he knew what he had to do.
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In that moment,
he made a commitment.
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Like Jacob of old, he
marked every 10th cow.
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By the time he was finished,
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more than 100 cows have
been designated for God.
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My friends and
neighbors thought I was crazy.
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To the Massai 100 cows
is worth about $30,000.
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You just don't give away
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the most
important resource you own.
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Despite the ridicule,
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Abraham
remained faithful to God.
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His neighbors stopped
laughing nine months later.
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They were shocked to see
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that many of Abraham's
cows gave birth to twins
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and his sheep triplets.
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Cows rarely have twins.
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It's considered
historic when they do.
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Immediately everyone understood
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that this miracle
came from a higher power.
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After the Maasai witnessed
Abraham's faithfulness,
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they approached
the union president,
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Pastor Godwin
Lekundayo and said,
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"We want to tithe too."
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Pastor Godwin was amazed
and said, "Are you Adventist?"
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They replied, "No, but
we want God to bless us
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just like he's
blessing Abraham."
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And praise the Lord,
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nine months later
their cows had twins too.
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Here is something else amazing.
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Every time a thief would
steal any of Abraham's cattle,
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the cows would
always return home,
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as if guided by unseen hands.
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Now thieves fear
stealing from Abraham.
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I praise God for
Adventist World Radio.
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Abraham credits AWR
for changing his life.
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Everyone sees
that the more he gives,
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the more he is blessed.
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Thanks to Abraham's testimony.
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Today, over 80
Maasai have accepted Jesus
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and have been baptized.
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And all of them now
listen to Adventist World Radio.
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These kinds of miracles
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not only
happened a long time ago,
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they're happening today,
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our heavenly Father is ready
to multiply your blessings.
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are being reached
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We all can look
forward to the day
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when we see the
fruits of our labor
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and praise God for allowing
us to be part of His good work.
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This is AWR360A°.
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What an amazing story.
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I'm blown away.
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Wow, when Abraham trusted
God and gave his tithe...
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Yes.
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That the rest of that text
is "I will rebuke the devourer."
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And as I'm looking at
that, Cami, and all of us,
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the cows started
coming back home by themselves
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by God's guidance,
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and the devourer came to take,
the lord rebuked the devourer.
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It's amazing. They have twins.
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Yes, all of the cattle had twins
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and then his friends
that started to pay tithe,
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their cows
started to have twins.
00:16:04.06\00:16:05.39
But you have to
understand too. Yeah.
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That when he was, you
know, he's counting his cows out
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one, two, three, four, five,
six, seven, eight, nine, tithe.
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And the neighbors were there
laughing and making fun of him
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saying "He's lost his mind."
00:16:17.51\00:16:18.87
Give away all that money. Yeah.
00:16:18.91\00:16:20.38
Then nine months
later they watch,
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they can't believe it.
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Yeah, you have
twins and triplets.
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Yeah, his cattle is
just, I mean, you can have...
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It's expanding and expanding
and now he's even more known
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but, you know, God is using him
as an incredible example there
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across the Maasai
tribes in Tanzania.
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I think this is
a wonderful thing
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that we as
Christians need to know.
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We need to realize
that as we trust God,
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take Him and His
promise, He will bless.
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His scoop shovel
pitched there on the farm,
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His scoop shovel
is bigger than ours.
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His scoop shovel, I like that.
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And then He owns
the cattle on a...
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Thousand hills. That's right.
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This story is
becoming a pun to me.
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But a spiritual
God there's no way
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that you can outgive God.
00:17:03.62\00:17:05.95
Ed, tell us this
amazing story about the guitar?
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Well, it's very
interesting to me that,
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this is just an illustration.
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But I think that
God has given His people
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enough resources and
assets to finish the work.
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Amen.
00:17:16.80\00:17:18.13
And it's just a matter
of how we motivate people
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to do something like that.
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It may interest you
to know that just...
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was nine years
ago, I was here at 3ABN.
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We did a program on
Adventist World Radio.
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And I demonstrated
those little radios.
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You may remember
we did crank it up.
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I remember that.
Yeah, that wind up.
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Well, someone called the
GC office right after that
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and said, "We have a
guitar we'd like to donate."
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And it's very interesting to me
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that the person
that answered the phone
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was the young lady who said,
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"I don't think we take guitars."
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Usually folks have
cash or liquid assets.
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But this was a guitar.
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And she said, "Well,
let me speak with Ed Reid."
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So they
transferred the call to me
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and I called him
back and he said,
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"Yeah, I have a
guitar I'd like to donate,"
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but it's not something to
take to a flea market on Sunday
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and sell for $500.
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This is a real expensive guitar.
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And it turns out
that it was a 1935 edition
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of Gibson's Super
400 archtop guitar,
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which they only made 63
00:18:11.59\00:18:12.92
in their whole
history of Gibson guitars.
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And there was a huge guitar,
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one to lead a
band because it was...
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in those days
nothing was electrified.
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It was supposed to
be the loudest guitar.
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And anyway, when
I got it, he said,
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"Now, I want you to
take this to Nashville
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and get it appraised
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by George Gruhn
of Gruhn's Guitar
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'cause he used
to work for Gibson
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and knew the value and
written a book about it."
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When I took it
there, George said to me,
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"Where did you get this?"
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Well, this is interesting
00:18:37.55\00:18:38.88
because Beck and Sherulthine
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who lived in Juliet,
Idaho and still do there.
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They had had it for 50
years in their collection.
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But he said to me something
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that I want you
guys to understand.
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He said "I do not want this
to get burned up at the end.
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I want it to do
something good for God."
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Amen. Wow.
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Isn't that interesting?
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That's the whole
point of it really.
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But yeah, I took it to George,
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where did you
get this and so on.
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They put blue light cameras down
00:19:01.10\00:19:02.44
and looked at
all over and he said,
00:19:02.47\00:19:03.91
"You follow this
wherever you go."
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There for four stories in
their building in Nashville.
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He said "$16,000
is what it's worth."
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Wow.
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Four months later,
we sold it for $20,000.
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Amen. Wow.
00:19:13.55\00:19:15.52
And he said to Sharon, his wife,
00:19:15.55\00:19:17.02
"I wonder how many of these
digital radios this would make?"
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Amen. Yeah.
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That to me was an encouragement
more to me than to them.
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But we've all been
friends since that time.
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And it's amazing to see
how many people feel like,
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"Well, I could do something."
00:19:31.13\00:19:32.73
And that's why we
mentioned the guitar store.
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It was actually
featured in our transmissions,
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you know, nine years ago.
00:19:37.11\00:19:39.21
But it continues to inspire me
and many other people to think
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you don't have
to be very wealthy
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to see something happen
to advance the cause of God.
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They were willing to do that.
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Beautiful.
00:19:48.35\00:19:49.68
That's amazing.
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You know, so when we think
00:19:51.09\00:19:52.42
it's just an
instrument to be played,
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the value and
that's the perceived value
00:19:54.29\00:19:57.73
and the actual value
is what we often miss.
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But also let's add
the other component.
00:20:00.43\00:20:02.76
The Lord multiplies the value,
00:20:02.80\00:20:04.80
when He knows it's going
to be contributed to His work.
00:20:04.83\00:20:06.87
Beyond the
appraisal. Beyond the appraisal.
00:20:06.94\00:20:09.14
And that's amazing.
00:20:09.17\00:20:10.51
So do you guys
still accept guitars?
00:20:10.54\00:20:14.38
I think right now
you'll accept anything.
00:20:14.41\00:20:16.51
Because God can
turn one man's junk
00:20:16.54\00:20:20.02
into another man's treasure.
00:20:20.05\00:20:21.38
By no means is a
guitar junk by it,
00:20:21.42\00:20:22.88
that's not the connection.
00:20:22.92\00:20:24.35
But praise God
for moving hearts.
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Dr. Lang video.
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Sure.
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That's my wife's brother...
00:20:29.16\00:20:30.83
Kathy, my wife, her
brother and sister-in-law,
00:20:30.86\00:20:34.10
went to medical
school and he did
00:20:34.13\00:20:35.60
and they moved to Florida,
00:20:35.63\00:20:37.37
and had a good
practice down there and retired,
00:20:37.40\00:20:39.93
moved up all the
way up to Tennessee.
00:20:39.97\00:20:43.10
And he came to
one of our three...
00:20:43.14\00:20:45.74
We do awareness
mission Sabbaths,
00:20:45.77\00:20:48.51
and he came to one of
those and was so impressed.
00:20:48.54\00:20:50.55
Actually, he's very,
he's German from North Dakota.
00:20:50.58\00:20:53.72
And very shy, I
guess what he is.
00:20:53.75\00:20:57.39
He would never get up front,
00:20:57.42\00:20:58.75
but she talked him into go
00:20:58.79\00:21:00.12
in to preach a series
of evangelistic meeting
00:21:00.16\00:21:02.22
just like...
00:21:02.26\00:21:04.99
I should probably begin with,
we'll come to that later...
00:21:05.03\00:21:07.93
It changes life and this video,
00:21:07.96\00:21:11.20
you'll really
enjoy about what he...
00:21:11.23\00:21:14.90
What they...
00:21:14.94\00:21:16.27
How they were
influenced to really help.
00:21:16.30\00:21:17.87
Okay. I like to see that.
00:21:17.91\00:21:19.31
Finish the work. Yeah.
00:21:19.34\00:21:20.68
Dr. Lang video,
let's check it out.
00:21:20.71\00:21:22.04
Let's see it.
00:21:22.08\00:21:23.45
I grew up a farm
boy in North Dakota
00:21:30.99\00:21:35.32
till I went
away to Union College
00:21:35.36\00:21:37.66
and met and
married this young lady.
00:21:37.69\00:21:43.06
And two weeks before
our fourth child was born,
00:21:43.10\00:21:47.14
we started medical school
00:21:47.17\00:21:49.74
and moved up here to
this delightful Ooltewah,
00:21:49.77\00:21:53.14
Tennessee area and
so we love it here.
00:21:53.17\00:21:57.18
When we went to the rally
here and saw what AWR is doing,
00:22:01.72\00:22:06.76
and how they
could get into areas
00:22:06.79\00:22:09.76
where far as I know, no
other ministries can reach
00:22:09.79\00:22:15.73
and some of the stories
that were given with Cami
00:22:15.76\00:22:20.17
and places
they'd gone and Duane,
00:22:20.24\00:22:23.71
that really
impressed me and I said
00:22:23.74\00:22:25.64
"This is a
really worthy ministry."
00:22:25.67\00:22:30.25
I met Jeff Wilson
00:22:30.28\00:22:31.88
who said he could do
our will and trust here.
00:22:31.91\00:22:37.02
It was painless.
00:22:37.09\00:22:39.19
It went smoothly,
Jeff took care of it all
00:22:39.22\00:22:41.69
and to get the trust
without any out of pocket costs
00:22:41.72\00:22:47.20
was way beyond what I expected.
00:22:47.23\00:22:50.87
Now, does God
ever run into a wall?
00:23:02.51\00:23:05.81
Never. Never.
00:23:05.85\00:23:07.22
Okay.
00:23:07.25\00:23:08.58
So this Dr. Lang's video,
00:23:08.62\00:23:12.22
how did this
encourage your faith?
00:23:12.25\00:23:14.42
Oh, actually, for my
wife a lot and for me too,
00:23:14.46\00:23:18.93
he was in very good, health,
retired, went to Tennessee,
00:23:18.96\00:23:24.07
like southern and
here a couple months ago
00:23:24.10\00:23:26.84
he was on a ladder
and fell off the ladder
00:23:26.87\00:23:29.47
and he died then.
00:23:29.50\00:23:31.47
So this is very
meaningful to our family.
00:23:31.51\00:23:34.08
But again, it's a, you
know, as we work together,
00:23:34.11\00:23:38.58
like I think
they had said or Jeff,
00:23:38.61\00:23:42.22
one of you said
that, you know, there is...
00:23:42.25\00:23:44.02
God has plenty of
resources to finish the work.
00:23:44.09\00:23:46.96
And I believe
I'm seeing things now
00:23:46.99\00:23:49.12
like I've never seen before.
00:23:49.16\00:23:50.53
After 40 years of
international evangelism,
00:23:50.56\00:23:53.03
God is doing
something in incredible always.
00:23:53.06\00:23:55.80
We're seeing,
we're seeing rebels.
00:23:55.83\00:23:57.77
We're seeing drug cartel.
00:23:57.80\00:23:59.80
We're seeing some
of the worst assassins
00:23:59.83\00:24:03.17
in the world
coming to know Jesus.
00:24:03.20\00:24:05.14
Amen. Wow.
00:24:05.17\00:24:06.51
It's just
amazing. Time is short.
00:24:06.54\00:24:07.88
You know, that's
the mission of Christ.
00:24:07.91\00:24:09.24
He's come to seek and
to save those who are lost.
00:24:09.28\00:24:11.38
Yeah.
00:24:11.41\00:24:12.75
And He said to the Pharisees,
00:24:12.78\00:24:14.45
"Because you say you
are, well, I can't help you."
00:24:14.48\00:24:17.79
You don't need a physician.
00:24:17.82\00:24:19.22
But so it doesn't
matter the condition
00:24:19.25\00:24:21.12
because God is... Jesus
is the master physician.
00:24:21.16\00:24:24.99
Now, Jeff, the Doreen testimony,
00:24:25.03\00:24:27.13
tell us about that.
00:24:27.20\00:24:28.63
Doreen is a
special friend of mine.
00:24:28.66\00:24:32.67
We met about six years ago,
00:24:32.70\00:24:34.17
but way back in
April 24 of 1993,
00:24:34.24\00:24:39.31
she sent $10, 12 months
to Adventist World Radio.
00:24:39.34\00:24:43.65
And over the years that
$10 became $20, and $25,
00:24:43.68\00:24:47.42
and $50, and $100, and $500.
00:24:47.45\00:24:51.35
I only had a post office box,
00:24:51.39\00:24:54.06
but I was under
impression from the Lord
00:24:54.09\00:24:55.92
I needed to visit this woman
00:24:55.96\00:24:57.69
and that's when she'd given
00:24:57.73\00:24:59.59
probably about
$80,000 to our ministry.
00:24:59.63\00:25:03.10
I had just out
of post office box
00:25:03.13\00:25:04.93
and I finally found
a number that worked.
00:25:04.97\00:25:07.44
And I called and
I got her husband.
00:25:07.47\00:25:10.01
And he was a very
reclusive type man.
00:25:10.04\00:25:13.21
And he said,
"Well, you can't come
00:25:13.24\00:25:14.68
and visit my house."
00:25:14.71\00:25:16.04
But it was kind of funny
00:25:16.08\00:25:17.45
because he answered the
phone and I could hear him say,
00:25:17.48\00:25:19.45
"Doreen, the head honcho
from Adventist World Radio
00:25:19.48\00:25:22.85
is on the line to talk to you."
00:25:22.88\00:25:25.62
And I was trying to
say how do I respond to her
00:25:25.65\00:25:27.59
'cause I didn't
know I was a honcho,
00:25:27.66\00:25:29.39
let alone a head honcho.
00:25:29.42\00:25:31.79
But we met at a
grocery store, and we talked
00:25:31.83\00:25:34.73
and she shared
with me her excitement
00:25:34.76\00:25:37.07
about reaching people
00:25:37.10\00:25:38.43
that can't be
reached in any other way.
00:25:38.47\00:25:41.37
And I started teaching sometimes
00:25:41.40\00:25:42.94
in her Sabbath school
class at Caringbah Church.
00:25:42.97\00:25:46.31
And one day Doreen said to me,
00:25:46.34\00:25:51.15
"We have all this artwork."
00:25:51.18\00:25:52.81
And her house was full of...
00:25:52.85\00:25:56.58
If you buy at
Walmart it's called a vase,
00:25:56.62\00:25:58.45
if you buy at those
fancy stores it's a vase.
00:25:58.49\00:26:01.46
Vases. Annunciation.
00:26:01.49\00:26:03.22
Vases. Yes.
00:26:03.26\00:26:05.19
Some of them six feet tall
00:26:05.23\00:26:06.80
and some small
ones in the cabinets.
00:26:06.83\00:26:08.90
Hundreds and hundreds of these.
00:26:08.93\00:26:10.27
She and her husband had
travelled the world on...
00:26:10.30\00:26:13.87
not on cruise ships
but on merchant ships
00:26:13.94\00:26:16.64
because he didn't like people.
00:26:16.71\00:26:18.37
They even were at
Pitcairn three times.
00:26:18.41\00:26:20.88
And she said...
00:26:20.91\00:26:22.24
I said, "But,
Doreen, this is your life.
00:26:22.28\00:26:23.75
These have so many memories."
00:26:23.78\00:26:25.11
She says, "I want this...
00:26:25.15\00:26:26.82
It's just stuff.
00:26:26.85\00:26:28.72
I want it to help
finish God's work."
00:26:28.75\00:26:32.12
So I think we have a
picture there of Doreen
00:26:32.15\00:26:35.49
in her kitchen,
00:26:35.52\00:26:36.86
and another picture
00:26:36.93\00:26:38.46
with a young man named Jim Fren.
00:26:38.49\00:26:41.10
Jim, we found
Jim by God's grace.
00:26:41.13\00:26:45.37
He actually has a
business of estate sales.
00:26:45.40\00:26:50.71
And he told us...
00:26:50.74\00:26:52.07
you know, Japanese
artwork, Chinese artwork,
00:26:52.11\00:26:55.38
German stein's,
walking sticks, ivory,
00:26:55.41\00:26:58.88
people used to
collect this stuff,
00:26:58.91\00:27:00.25
they don't collect it anymore.
00:27:00.32\00:27:01.65
You know, same
with stamps and coins.
00:27:01.68\00:27:03.49
They're not worth
what they used to be
00:27:03.52\00:27:05.19
in the old days.
00:27:05.22\00:27:06.55
But he said, "I'm
committed to this.
00:27:06.59\00:27:09.09
This is for God's work."
00:27:09.12\00:27:10.46
He wasn't an Adventist but...
00:27:10.53\00:27:12.63
And by God's grace, he sold it.
00:27:12.66\00:27:15.60
And we got a little
over $80,000 for her artwork.
00:27:15.63\00:27:20.87
And I went back to visit
Doreen and her walls are bare
00:27:20.94\00:27:23.61
and their shelves are bare.
00:27:23.64\00:27:24.97
And I said "Doreen,
00:27:25.01\00:27:26.71
aren't you sad
for losing all this?"
00:27:26.78\00:27:28.54
And she had this
huge smile on her face
00:27:28.58\00:27:30.48
that you measured with
a yardstick not a ruler.
00:27:30.55\00:27:33.35
She said, "No, it's
going to benefit God's work."
00:27:33.42\00:27:37.79
We started talking to her
00:27:37.82\00:27:41.06
about our estate plan.
00:27:41.09\00:27:44.43
When her husband
Richard died a few years ago,
00:27:44.46\00:27:47.93
all they had was what
we call a holographic will.
00:27:47.96\00:27:50.57
That means a will
that you wrote out by hand.
00:27:50.60\00:27:53.23
And this was an estate
00:27:53.27\00:27:54.70
that was worth
several million dollars,
00:27:54.74\00:27:56.91
and it was going
to be transferred
00:27:56.94\00:27:58.44
by a handwritten will,
00:27:58.47\00:27:59.81
not an attorney had
had anything to do with.
00:27:59.84\00:28:02.14
Well, we prayed a lot over that.
00:28:02.18\00:28:04.68
And we got a good
attorney to represent her.
00:28:04.71\00:28:07.52
And she told me when she
went in to see the judge,
00:28:07.55\00:28:09.88
the judge said,
00:28:09.92\00:28:11.25
"How many years were
you married to Richard?"
00:28:11.29\00:28:13.25
And she said, "Sixty seven."
00:28:13.29\00:28:14.72
He said, "Case dismissed.
00:28:14.76\00:28:16.09
Everything goes to her."
00:28:16.12\00:28:17.63
Because in this
handwritten will,
00:28:17.66\00:28:19.03
he said, she had
lived like 90 days
00:28:19.06\00:28:21.03
or something, and so forth.
00:28:21.06\00:28:22.40
Anyway, so then we
had a very good attorney
00:28:22.43\00:28:24.97
assist her and her son David,
00:28:25.00\00:28:28.14
came back with her
from the attorney's office
00:28:28.17\00:28:30.81
when they signed the documents.
00:28:30.84\00:28:32.74
And she said...
00:28:32.77\00:28:34.11
And David said to
me, "Elder Wilson,
00:28:34.18\00:28:35.74
I want you know
that my sister and I
00:28:35.78\00:28:37.35
are totally behind
what our mother is doing.
00:28:37.38\00:28:40.52
And in her will she
leaves a million dollars in cash
00:28:40.55\00:28:44.09
to Adventist World
Radio and her home.
00:28:44.12\00:28:46.96
And at this point, our
home is worth $1 million.
00:28:46.99\00:28:51.16
So $10 over
about a 27 year period,
00:28:51.19\00:28:55.06
more and more commitment to God.
00:28:55.10\00:28:56.70
But what we are
seeing is in our donors
00:28:56.77\00:29:01.14
and you see it with
your donors at 3ABN as well.
00:29:01.17\00:29:04.31
They have a feeling
that we're near the end.
00:29:04.34\00:29:06.27
Yeah. That's right.
00:29:06.31\00:29:07.64
Jesus is coming soon.
00:29:07.68\00:29:09.01
We need to put it
in God's work now,
00:29:09.04\00:29:11.55
we don't want it in
our pocket when God comes
00:29:11.58\00:29:14.48
and Doreen is a wonderful story
00:29:14.52\00:29:17.79
of that in a person's life
00:29:17.82\00:29:21.46
who is very, very
committed to the Lord.
00:29:21.49\00:29:24.06
And that commitment grows, yeah.
00:29:24.13\00:29:25.63
Amen.
00:29:25.66\00:29:27.00
And once again, it's
true you cannot outgive God.
00:29:27.03\00:29:30.07
If you look at the
cadence here, honey,
00:29:30.10\00:29:31.60
we're looking at the ways
that God sustains His work.
00:29:31.63\00:29:34.34
And the point that you
made is very well taken.
00:29:34.37\00:29:36.54
We're living in
the time of the end
00:29:36.57\00:29:37.91
and you think
about all the things
00:29:37.94\00:29:39.27
that people possess.
00:29:39.31\00:29:40.68
We are praying
that you possess things
00:29:40.71\00:29:42.91
and things don't possess you.
00:29:42.94\00:29:44.88
Because these things
really as you pointed out, Jeff,
00:29:44.91\00:29:47.05
I think they got
in flames one day.
00:29:47.12\00:29:49.15
The guitar, you know,
00:29:49.18\00:29:50.52
what happens when the
house gets set on fire
00:29:50.59\00:29:52.19
and we saw an example of
that in the Paradise fire
00:29:52.22\00:29:54.62
and you can imagine multiple,
00:29:54.66\00:29:56.19
millions of possessions
just went up in flames,
00:29:56.22\00:29:59.26
and could not help the
work of the Lord at all.
00:29:59.29\00:30:01.93
So God allows
these small tragedies
00:30:01.96\00:30:03.70
to help us see that
either it has value now
00:30:03.77\00:30:06.77
to advance the
cause of God or one day,
00:30:06.84\00:30:08.97
you know, our
riches, as James says,
00:30:09.00\00:30:10.91
will be crank up as
a witness against us.
00:30:10.94\00:30:13.71
So if you think about
supporting the work of God,
00:30:13.78\00:30:15.94
and you're
surrounded with stuff,
00:30:15.98\00:30:17.58
you know, we're getting older,
chronology doesn't reverse.
00:30:17.65\00:30:21.12
The best time to
support the work of God is now.
00:30:21.15\00:30:23.59
Now what do we have, honey?
00:30:23.62\00:30:24.95
Now, Ed, you want to share
a story with us, don't you,
00:30:24.99\00:30:27.46
about Alice Hammond?
00:30:27.49\00:30:29.02
I do indeed.
00:30:29.06\00:30:30.53
Kathy and I did some
visiting in Washington State
00:30:30.56\00:30:32.46
a few years ago,
and we met a dear lady,
00:30:32.49\00:30:34.36
a retired schoolteacher.
00:30:34.40\00:30:35.73
She taught in the Adventist
elementary school system
00:30:35.76\00:30:37.97
for many years.
00:30:38.00\00:30:39.33
And still daily
prays for all the students
00:30:39.37\00:30:41.17
that she had, and so on
and loves them and so on,
00:30:41.20\00:30:43.10
a dear sweet lady.
00:30:43.14\00:30:44.74
And we told her about the
way that she could support.
00:30:44.77\00:30:47.41
She was doing a monthly thing,
00:30:47.48\00:30:48.81
a small amount each month.
00:30:48.84\00:30:50.28
But then she called
me back and she said,
00:30:50.35\00:30:51.98
"I think I'm ready
to do something bigger."
00:30:52.01\00:30:54.15
So I went to see her and
this is an amazing story.
00:30:54.22\00:30:57.39
I flew into Seattle,
00:30:57.42\00:30:58.95
and I put in my GPS
Bremerton, Washington
00:30:58.99\00:31:01.79
and I was thinking
about going south on I5,
00:31:01.82\00:31:03.73
then up the other side as
many of you have done before
00:31:03.76\00:31:05.86
around the Puget Sound.
00:31:05.89\00:31:07.43
But my GPS took me a strange way
00:31:07.50\00:31:10.27
and ended up right at the ferry.
00:31:10.30\00:31:12.20
So I'm going to
take the ferry across
00:31:12.23\00:31:13.64
that's going around,
it was actually cheaper.
00:31:13.67\00:31:15.27
It's only like $5
Washington State ferry system.
00:31:15.30\00:31:19.14
At sundown it's real
beautiful right over there
00:31:19.17\00:31:21.51
but when I got over there,
00:31:21.54\00:31:23.18
there's these
huge aircraft carriers
00:31:23.21\00:31:25.51
bigger than cities in there
00:31:25.55\00:31:27.12
'cause that's the Bremerton
Naval airbase, Naval shipyard.
00:31:27.15\00:31:30.49
Okay.
00:31:30.52\00:31:31.85
Well, this has a
point to it as well.
00:31:31.89\00:31:33.22
But anyway, when I
went to see Alice Hammond,
00:31:33.25\00:31:35.59
she said, "I've
decided to do an annuity
00:31:35.62\00:31:38.36
with Adventist World Radio."
00:31:38.39\00:31:39.89
And she said,
"I wish I had more,
00:31:39.93\00:31:41.26
but it's only 150,000."
00:31:41.30\00:31:43.16
This is a retired
Adventist schoolteacher.
00:31:43.20\00:31:45.43
This is amazing
because she said,
00:31:45.47\00:31:47.07
"I don't want to die
00:31:47.14\00:31:48.47
with a lot of
stuff in my possession.
00:31:48.50\00:31:49.84
I want it to go to the
cause of God and so on."
00:31:49.87\00:31:51.24
So this is incredible
to me that this happened.
00:31:51.27\00:31:54.28
The reason I
mentioned her by name
00:31:54.31\00:31:55.64
is we used to keep everybody
fairly private as you know,
00:31:55.68\00:31:58.55
but she passed away this year.
00:31:58.58\00:31:59.91
So most of that came
00:31:59.95\00:32:01.28
into the Adventist
World Radio already
00:32:01.32\00:32:03.49
but since I was
already over there,
00:32:03.52\00:32:05.62
I was looking
around on our website,
00:32:05.65\00:32:08.06
our private donor base...
00:32:08.09\00:32:11.49
Donor list.
00:32:11.53\00:32:13.06
And I found that
someone had just contributed
00:32:13.09\00:32:14.93
$10,000 in cash
00:32:14.96\00:32:17.47
to the Arabic language ministry
that we were starting up.
00:32:17.50\00:32:21.17
Now this is very interesting
00:32:21.20\00:32:22.54
because I called
the person I said, Tim,
00:32:22.57\00:32:24.81
would it be all right
00:32:24.84\00:32:26.17
if I could stop by and see you?"
00:32:26.21\00:32:27.58
And I said...
00:32:27.61\00:32:28.94
you know, I thought
when I made the appointment
00:32:28.98\00:32:30.31
that it was gonna
be somebody my age
00:32:30.35\00:32:31.68
that was retired
00:32:31.71\00:32:33.05
and had their
disposable assets and so on.
00:32:33.08\00:32:36.15
When I got there, however,
00:32:36.18\00:32:37.82
I thought I was
at the wrong address
00:32:37.85\00:32:39.19
because the address
was a basement apartment.
00:32:39.22\00:32:41.99
There wasn't a
fancy car parked outside.
00:32:42.02\00:32:44.33
It was a used Toyota
Corolla, an older model.
00:32:44.36\00:32:47.50
And when I talked, it
was Tim and Kirsten Swope
00:32:47.53\00:32:50.17
when I got there.
00:32:50.20\00:32:51.53
They had just given $10,000.
00:32:51.57\00:32:53.10
Now they had just
recently finished college.
00:32:53.13\00:32:55.20
She was
expecting their first child
00:32:55.24\00:32:56.57
and how in the world
they ever gave $10,000.
00:32:56.60\00:32:59.04
I had tears in my eyes
00:32:59.07\00:33:00.41
almost the whole
time I was there,
00:33:00.48\00:33:01.81
I could not believe this.
00:33:01.84\00:33:03.18
And this is an amazing
story that they did that.
00:33:03.21\00:33:05.98
And AWR prepared
them a very nice plaque
00:33:06.01\00:33:10.29
with a picture
of an Arab guy on it
00:33:10.32\00:33:11.65
and the language and
thanked him and so on
00:33:11.69\00:33:13.02
and send it back to
them and it's on their wall.
00:33:13.05\00:33:14.99
But the amazing part about
it is it doesn't stop there.
00:33:15.02\00:33:17.73
The next summer, I was at ASI
00:33:17.76\00:33:19.53
and I was at a
table at one of the meals.
00:33:19.56\00:33:21.86
And a couple sat
by me and they said,
00:33:21.90\00:33:23.30
"We know you're from
AWR, what's happening."
00:33:23.37\00:33:25.20
So I told him this story,
00:33:25.23\00:33:26.84
just about
everybody around the table
00:33:26.87\00:33:28.20
got tears in their eyes
and couldn't believe it.
00:33:28.24\00:33:29.80
So this couple were David
and Esther Kim said to me,
00:33:29.84\00:33:33.88
"We want to do something."
00:33:33.91\00:33:35.24
They called me, they'd
asked for one of my cards,
00:33:35.28\00:33:36.85
and about a month
later they called me and said
00:33:36.88\00:33:38.21
"We want to make a
pledge to the Lord.
00:33:38.25\00:33:40.42
We want to conceive a child.
00:33:40.45\00:33:43.49
And if that happens,
00:33:43.52\00:33:44.85
we're going to
give $10,000 to AWR."
00:33:44.89\00:33:46.62
Wow. That was the Lord saying.
00:33:46.65\00:33:48.82
Taking the lead
of the other one.
00:33:48.86\00:33:50.73
Yeah.
00:33:50.76\00:33:52.09
Then they said
"When the child is born,
00:33:52.13\00:33:53.46
we're going to
give another $10,000."
00:33:53.50\00:33:54.83
Wow.
00:33:54.86\00:33:56.20
Which they've done both.
00:33:56.23\00:33:57.57
And the interesting
thing is they want to do
00:33:57.60\00:33:58.93
a special project
00:33:58.97\00:34:00.30
so just at that time
the Doma project in Africa
00:34:00.34\00:34:01.77
was opening up and Duane said,
00:34:01.80\00:34:04.47
"Would you be
interested in this project?"
00:34:04.51\00:34:05.84
Would they?
00:34:05.87\00:34:07.21
Yeah, they wanted to do
something not just in general.
00:34:07.28\00:34:09.08
By not just the
general donation.
00:34:09.11\00:34:10.45
Yeah. And so that's what they...
00:34:10.48\00:34:11.81
So it just keeps going
00:34:11.85\00:34:13.18
as people learn
about these stories.
00:34:13.21\00:34:14.82
The amazing thing is,
00:34:14.85\00:34:16.18
even young people can do things.
00:34:16.22\00:34:17.59
That's what the
point of this. Amen.
00:34:17.62\00:34:18.95
Yeah, I'm glad
you brought that up
00:34:18.99\00:34:20.32
because a lot of
times people think,
00:34:20.36\00:34:21.69
"Well, you know,
we have to retire.
00:34:21.72\00:34:23.06
We got 40 years left,
we got 30 years left,"
00:34:23.09\00:34:24.43
and in this world today,
00:34:24.46\00:34:25.96
all you have left
is the next breath.
00:34:25.99\00:34:28.00
You don't have a
whole lot of time.
00:34:28.03\00:34:29.73
But it's exciting to
see that young people
00:34:29.76\00:34:32.43
in this altruistic
society people are thinking
00:34:32.47\00:34:35.24
about how to
advance the cause of God.
00:34:35.27\00:34:37.11
Yeah.
00:34:37.14\00:34:38.47
My question is, how
many languages is AWR...
00:34:38.51\00:34:41.98
We're broadcasting in about 100,
00:34:42.01\00:34:43.55
just about 100 to 130
00:34:43.58\00:34:45.95
and we're expanding
to 500, that's our goal.
00:34:45.98\00:34:48.15
Yes. Wow.
00:34:48.18\00:34:49.52
Wow. That's amazing.
00:34:49.55\00:34:50.89
We have 1,000
stations around the world
00:34:50.92\00:34:52.25
so we reach the globe,
00:34:52.29\00:34:53.86
from Guam alone we
reach a third of the world.
00:34:53.89\00:34:56.06
Wow. On shortwave.
00:34:56.09\00:34:57.43
You still do the radio one.
00:34:57.46\00:34:58.79
Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yes.
00:34:58.83\00:35:00.20
We do that.
00:35:00.23\00:35:01.56
We do internet, we do shortwave,
00:35:01.60\00:35:02.93
we do DAB,
00:35:02.96\00:35:04.30
we're starting a new DAB
station in all of Paris...
00:35:04.33\00:35:05.67
What is DAB?
00:35:05.70\00:35:07.04
Digital Audio Broadcasting.
00:35:07.07\00:35:08.64
Okay, yeah I got that.
00:35:08.67\00:35:10.01
So it's a brand new,
00:35:10.04\00:35:11.37
brand new in Europe and
so we'll reach all of Paris.
00:35:11.41\00:35:14.41
We're doing the
same thing in London,
00:35:14.44\00:35:15.78
we were reaching
all London now 24/7.
00:35:15.81\00:35:17.55
And you know what?
00:35:17.58\00:35:18.91
The way the world
is going nowadays it...
00:35:18.95\00:35:20.32
You don't have to knock on doors
00:35:20.35\00:35:21.68
or kick down
doors, you can post,
00:35:21.72\00:35:23.39
just send it by
satellite, by signal,
00:35:23.42\00:35:24.99
by some kind of digital
media and it makes it there.
00:35:25.02\00:35:28.09
I don't know, are you
familiar with the farmer video?
00:35:28.12\00:35:30.83
The farmer story?
00:35:30.86\00:35:32.39
Tell us about that. I love that.
00:35:32.43\00:35:33.80
Yes, this is a
precious video of a man
00:35:33.83\00:35:37.57
that wanted to
leave a legacy and...
00:35:37.60\00:35:40.94
And let's just roll the video
00:35:40.97\00:35:42.30
so you can see how God used him
and what He's done in his life.
00:35:42.34\00:35:46.68
Okay.
00:35:46.71\00:35:48.04
I grew up in Indiana,
00:35:53.62\00:35:54.95
and I've been a
farmer all my life.
00:35:54.98\00:35:57.95
My father, every
time we plant a field,
00:35:57.99\00:36:01.49
when we got through
we'd always kneel down
00:36:01.52\00:36:03.32
and have prayers.
00:36:03.36\00:36:04.69
We've done our part,
now the Lord will do His,
00:36:04.73\00:36:07.50
and He always come through.
00:36:07.53\00:36:09.50
After praying about it,
00:36:13.17\00:36:14.54
my wife and I
decided to do a gift annuity
00:36:14.57\00:36:17.31
through Adventist World Radio.
00:36:17.34\00:36:19.64
It goes to people that normally
you're not going to hear.
00:36:19.67\00:36:23.75
And that's what our
three angels' message
00:36:23.78\00:36:26.82
is all about, to every nation,
kindred, tongue and people.
00:36:26.85\00:36:32.15
When you're a farmer,
00:36:32.19\00:36:33.56
you don't have
a retirement plan.
00:36:33.59\00:36:35.92
It was a good way to
supplement our retirement.
00:36:35.96\00:36:39.33
It's been a blessing to us,
00:36:39.36\00:36:41.13
and I know it's
going to be a blessing
00:36:41.16\00:36:42.50
to those others
around the world.
00:36:42.53\00:36:44.43
Yeah, I met Bill Mann,
00:36:50.74\00:36:52.07
he is a wonderful friend of mine
00:36:52.11\00:36:53.91
and we recently
visited him in the hospital.
00:36:53.98\00:36:56.08
He fell and broke his shoulder.
00:36:56.11\00:36:59.01
And we took along
the picture of this video
00:36:59.05\00:37:02.35
and he's so thrilled
00:37:02.38\00:37:03.72
that his
testimony is being shared.
00:37:03.79\00:37:07.09
I did his...
00:37:07.16\00:37:08.49
helped him in his
wife do their estate plan
00:37:08.52\00:37:10.93
couple of years ago.
00:37:10.96\00:37:12.43
And everybody, you
know, you can't predict,
00:37:12.46\00:37:14.50
everybody thought
Bill was gonna die
00:37:14.53\00:37:16.23
'cause he's a
little bit overweight
00:37:16.26\00:37:17.60
and all that sort of thing.
00:37:17.63\00:37:18.97
Well, it was his
very healthy wife
00:37:19.00\00:37:21.07
that had a brain
aneurysm and died very quickly.
00:37:21.10\00:37:24.84
And it was...
00:37:24.87\00:37:26.21
It would have
been a huge problem
00:37:26.24\00:37:27.58
had they not already set
their estate plan in place,
00:37:27.61\00:37:31.41
which included a power
of attorney for healthcare
00:37:31.45\00:37:34.65
and a living will.
00:37:34.68\00:37:36.25
That solved problems
00:37:36.28\00:37:37.95
that would have
come up into the family
00:37:37.99\00:37:39.72
because they now knew
what their mother wanted.
00:37:39.75\00:37:45.23
We along with 3ABN...
00:37:45.26\00:37:46.83
and Ed and I
were just in the foyer
00:37:46.90\00:37:48.70
before this meeting
started with Joe Hunt,
00:37:48.73\00:37:52.13
your panned giving director.
00:37:52.17\00:37:53.64
We are colleagues,
we worked together.
00:37:53.67\00:37:56.00
Many of the people we
work with, they don't...
00:37:56.04\00:37:58.51
Go ahead. They don't, right, Ed.
00:37:58.54\00:38:00.28
They don't want to
leave to one ministry,
00:38:00.31\00:38:02.21
they want to leave
to a broad ministry
00:38:02.24\00:38:04.51
that's reaching
the world, worldwide.
00:38:04.55\00:38:07.95
And it's a joy to help
people do what they want to do.
00:38:07.98\00:38:13.96
Sometimes people
think, "Well, we're worried
00:38:13.99\00:38:15.72
because they're going
to tell us how to give."
00:38:15.76\00:38:18.33
Giving is a very personal thing
00:38:18.36\00:38:19.93
between individual and the Lord.
00:38:20.00\00:38:22.70
And what we do is
facilitate what they want to do
00:38:22.73\00:38:25.77
by bringing
along the legal counsel
00:38:25.80\00:38:28.30
that they need
to draft documents
00:38:28.34\00:38:30.11
and look at the bigger picture.
00:38:30.14\00:38:31.47
We want, Ellen White
talked about preparing a plan
00:38:31.51\00:38:34.68
that stood the test of law.
00:38:34.71\00:38:37.68
And, of course, a holographic
00:38:37.71\00:38:39.05
will may or may not
stand the test of law.
00:38:39.08\00:38:41.15
But if an
attorney who's licensed
00:38:41.18\00:38:43.08
and that state has
prepared that plan, it's strong.
00:38:43.12\00:38:47.16
And we are fighting the enemy,
00:38:47.19\00:38:50.06
and the enemy
does not want even $1
00:38:50.13\00:38:52.59
to come into God's work
00:38:52.63\00:38:54.00
either now or
through an estate plan.
00:38:54.03\00:38:56.33
So we're in a war
00:38:56.36\00:38:57.87
and we have to have very
solid legal counsel on our side
00:38:57.90\00:39:01.87
to listen to what
to people want to do,
00:39:01.90\00:39:04.24
and help them to do it.
00:39:04.31\00:39:06.47
And it's a blessing to them
not only in their final gift,
00:39:06.51\00:39:11.25
but in their life right now
to have their life in order.
00:39:11.28\00:39:15.08
We like to remind people
00:39:15.12\00:39:16.45
that if you have
your estate plan in order,
00:39:16.48\00:39:19.22
you'll generally
live 10 to 13 years
00:39:19.25\00:39:21.56
longer than if you don't...
00:39:21.59\00:39:23.76
I like to tell people
00:39:23.83\00:39:25.16
that because
people are superstitious.
00:39:25.19\00:39:28.86
Well, if I plan for
death, I'm gonna die.
00:39:28.90\00:39:31.40
I've found that
all over the world.
00:39:31.43\00:39:33.67
The truth is people
00:39:33.74\00:39:35.24
who have their
estate plan in order
00:39:35.27\00:39:36.94
also fasten their
seat belts, they eat right,
00:39:37.01\00:39:39.14
they study their
Bible, they live longer.
00:39:39.17\00:39:41.38
And they have less stress
00:39:41.41\00:39:42.74
because the will is not
left up to whoever else.
00:39:42.78\00:39:46.58
Wow.
00:39:46.61\00:39:47.95
What about the
Salt Lake City donor?
00:39:47.98\00:39:49.42
Well, that's another that's...
00:39:49.45\00:39:51.55
I was just there last week
00:39:51.59\00:39:52.92
to settle that up
with the Schaffners,
00:39:52.95\00:39:55.52
sweet couple, Carl and Nancy.
00:39:55.56\00:39:58.53
It's a kind of a
charitable gift annuity
00:39:58.56\00:40:00.83
we don't talk a lot about
and we should more than we do.
00:40:00.90\00:40:04.07
Most people interested
in a charitable gift annuity
00:40:04.10\00:40:06.57
are in their 70s or 80s or 90s.
00:40:06.60\00:40:08.84
And that's
because the older you are,
00:40:08.87\00:40:11.37
the higher the
return back to you.
00:40:11.41\00:40:13.58
You know that because
you do a lot of those here
00:40:13.61\00:40:15.61
at 3ABN.
00:40:15.64\00:40:17.15
What Carl and Nancy did was
something a little different.
00:40:17.18\00:40:19.65
It's called a deferred
charitable gift annuity.
00:40:19.68\00:40:23.99
And what Carl was doing
00:40:24.02\00:40:25.35
is what a lot of younger
people need to start doing.
00:40:25.39\00:40:28.92
You thought, think
about planning for retirement,
00:40:28.96\00:40:31.99
you need to diversify.
00:40:32.03\00:40:34.30
You know, my parents
dependent on social security,
00:40:34.33\00:40:36.33
that was enough.
00:40:36.36\00:40:37.70
That's not enough
for anybody anymore.
00:40:37.73\00:40:39.20
You need social security,
00:40:39.23\00:40:40.84
you need hopefully a
employment retirement plan,
00:40:40.87\00:40:45.14
but then you
need other resources.
00:40:45.17\00:40:47.78
A deferred gift
annuity is a contract
00:40:47.81\00:40:50.05
between the donor and
3ABN or Adventist World Radio,
00:40:50.08\00:40:54.48
or the church in which
they make the gift now,
00:40:54.52\00:40:58.95
the church invests that gift,
00:40:58.99\00:41:00.89
but they don't
receive their payments
00:41:00.96\00:41:02.69
till sometime in the future.
00:41:02.72\00:41:04.66
Which means they're
getting a higher rate of return
00:41:04.69\00:41:06.46
when they get it.
00:41:06.49\00:41:07.83
What Carl did,
00:41:07.86\00:41:09.20
and a lot of people
would think about this.
00:41:09.23\00:41:10.77
He's retiring this June.
00:41:10.80\00:41:12.50
When he does at 66,
00:41:12.53\00:41:14.27
but he doesn't want
to take social security
00:41:14.30\00:41:16.10
till he gets to 70
because there'll be more.
00:41:16.14\00:41:19.17
So his payments,
00:41:19.21\00:41:20.58
his deferred
gift annuity payments
00:41:20.61\00:41:22.01
are going to start in
this June and fill in that gap
00:41:22.04\00:41:26.05
until he reaches
his older retirement age
00:41:26.08\00:41:31.12
when he'll get
more social security
00:41:31.15\00:41:32.59
than if he'd
started at a younger time.
00:41:32.62\00:41:34.46
So we've done three with him
00:41:34.49\00:41:35.99
and they're very
happy with those,
00:41:36.02\00:41:37.86
and we hope to do more
00:41:37.89\00:41:39.23
and some of the 3ABN
donors would be interested
00:41:39.26\00:41:42.36
in that concept too.
00:41:42.40\00:41:43.77
I like the way
you brought that out
00:41:43.80\00:41:45.13
that one of the
things that you don't do
00:41:45.17\00:41:47.44
and we don't do either,
00:41:47.47\00:41:48.90
is to tell people
how to invest in it.
00:41:48.94\00:41:50.34
Exactly.
00:41:50.41\00:41:51.74
To give it because the
work of the Lord is a conviction
00:41:51.77\00:41:54.31
that God puts on
each one of our hearts
00:41:54.34\00:41:56.31
and there are
people that give here,
00:41:56.34\00:41:58.01
there are people who
give to Adventist World Radio,
00:41:58.05\00:41:59.55
and other
ministries, or even the church.
00:41:59.58\00:42:00.92
They give to both.
00:42:00.95\00:42:02.28
And they give.
00:42:02.32\00:42:03.69
I like the planned
giving, the deferred annuities.
00:42:03.72\00:42:05.45
And so you might be interested
00:42:05.49\00:42:06.86
in finding out how and
what the difference is.
00:42:06.89\00:42:09.46
And before the program is done,
00:42:09.49\00:42:10.83
we'll tell you
how to get information
00:42:10.86\00:42:12.19
and even how to contact 3ABN
to find out more about that.
00:42:12.23\00:42:14.93
Most of the people who
give to us give to you too.
00:42:14.96\00:42:18.00
That's right. That's right.
00:42:18.03\00:42:19.37
We're partnering
in it. Yeah, we are.
00:42:19.40\00:42:20.84
And tell all the world.
00:42:20.87\00:42:22.20
Yeah. Amen.
00:42:22.24\00:42:23.61
Now, Ed, what is the
philosophy of giving?
00:42:23.64\00:42:25.57
Well, this is interesting.
00:42:25.61\00:42:26.98
And this is a little bit
based on just my own view
00:42:27.01\00:42:30.15
of the charitable gift
annuities that I have done.
00:42:30.18\00:42:32.65
Okay.
00:42:32.68\00:42:34.02
About 80% of them
are done by widows.
00:42:34.05\00:42:37.39
So I just looked at a big
long list of several dozen
00:42:37.42\00:42:39.42
that I've done
00:42:39.45\00:42:40.79
and men are here
and there a little bit
00:42:40.86\00:42:42.22
but most of them
are done by widows.
00:42:42.26\00:42:44.46
Now think about this...
00:42:44.49\00:42:46.49
The only offering
that Jesus ever commanded
00:42:46.53\00:42:48.76
was to a widow lady
00:42:48.80\00:42:50.17
who gave her last
two cents to the church
00:42:50.20\00:42:51.53
that was just about to kill him.
00:42:51.57\00:42:54.14
So even though the
church may have problems,
00:42:54.17\00:42:55.77
God says "This is My church.
00:42:55.80\00:42:57.24
It's the apple of My eye."
00:42:57.31\00:42:59.01
Isn't that true? Amen.
00:42:59.04\00:43:00.38
So we will do the best we can.
00:43:00.41\00:43:02.18
So the most amazing
thing is that frequently
00:43:02.21\00:43:05.21
when a lady becomes a widow,
00:43:05.25\00:43:07.55
the husband has had a major part
00:43:07.62\00:43:09.05
in the
management of their money,
00:43:09.08\00:43:10.42
and they don't know what to do.
00:43:10.49\00:43:11.82
They've got investments
here and investments there,
00:43:11.85\00:43:13.19
property here,
property there, and so on.
00:43:13.22\00:43:15.22
And so, Jeff, and I talk to them
00:43:15.26\00:43:17.43
about several things first.
00:43:17.46\00:43:19.16
Are your debts all paid?
00:43:19.19\00:43:20.53
Do you have sufficient
income through each month
00:43:20.60\00:43:21.93
to take care of
your needs and so on?
00:43:21.96\00:43:23.50
Is your family
taking care of your need
00:43:23.57\00:43:24.90
and helping and so on?
00:43:24.93\00:43:26.27
But when they have
assets that are beyond that,
00:43:26.30\00:43:29.74
tangible assets, we say,
why don't you get an annuity
00:43:29.77\00:43:32.64
that will assist you
during your retirement years,
00:43:32.67\00:43:35.94
the balance will go to the God's
00:43:35.98\00:43:37.35
cause when you pass away.
00:43:37.38\00:43:38.81
And this is
something else we tell people,
00:43:38.85\00:43:40.32
"If you want to you
can revoke your interest
00:43:40.35\00:43:41.92
in your annuity,
00:43:41.95\00:43:43.89
and let the church
have it right away.
00:43:43.92\00:43:45.49
Let's just say that
things are winding up
00:43:45.52\00:43:46.89
and you just
don't want the church
00:43:46.96\00:43:48.39
to keep paying you interest,
00:43:48.42\00:43:49.76
but you'd like to let
them take the whole balance."
00:43:49.79\00:43:51.59
That's happened to
several of mine already.
00:43:51.63\00:43:54.00
Very interesting point.
00:43:54.03\00:43:56.16
The reason I want to say
what I did about the widows
00:43:56.20\00:43:58.40
is that we want them
to simplify their lives
00:43:58.43\00:44:00.44
so they don't have to
worry about the stock market
00:44:00.47\00:44:02.14
or anything like that.
00:44:02.17\00:44:03.51
They can be involved in helping
00:44:03.54\00:44:05.47
to make sure the
cause of God goes forward.
00:44:05.51\00:44:08.24
Now, here's my last
little bit of philosophy,
00:44:08.28\00:44:10.88
who of us wants to die
with a big bank account?
00:44:10.95\00:44:14.48
Or with lots of assets.
00:44:14.52\00:44:16.15
And I thought to
myself, Kathy and I,
00:44:16.18\00:44:17.52
this year gave a huge amount
of my most we've ever done
00:44:17.59\00:44:19.85
to a new church project,
00:44:19.89\00:44:21.32
we're going to do more,
we're trying to do more,
00:44:21.36\00:44:23.43
we want to make sure
that when Jesus comes
00:44:23.46\00:44:24.89
we don't have a lot
of money in the bank.
00:44:24.93\00:44:27.20
The goal of the
Christian is to die penniless.
00:44:27.23\00:44:30.50
The trick is dismantling,
00:44:30.57\00:44:33.47
so you need to
figure out how to do it
00:44:33.54\00:44:34.87
and you do your
estate plan and so on
00:44:34.90\00:44:36.24
so the God's cause is remembered
00:44:36.27\00:44:37.61
even if you may
not have your wits
00:44:37.64\00:44:38.97
about you at the end, you know.
00:44:39.01\00:44:40.34
And we also minimize
the family squabbles.
00:44:40.38\00:44:42.91
Oh, absolutely.
00:44:42.94\00:44:44.28
A lot of times when
people die, you know, I said
00:44:44.31\00:44:45.78
"Where there's a will
there's a lot of relatives."
00:44:45.81\00:44:47.75
That's right.
00:44:47.78\00:44:50.29
They say, if you do your
giving while you're living
00:44:50.32\00:44:52.02
then you knowing
where it's going.
00:44:52.05\00:44:53.56
Say that again. Say it.
00:44:53.59\00:44:54.92
If you give your
giving while you're living
00:44:54.96\00:44:56.29
then you knowing
where it's going.
00:44:56.32\00:44:57.66
Did you hear that?
00:44:57.69\00:44:59.03
If you give while you're living
00:44:59.06\00:45:00.40
then you're
knowing where it's going.
00:45:00.43\00:45:01.76
I like that. Had
to write that down.
00:45:01.80\00:45:03.13
That should be
buttoned you guys.
00:45:03.16\00:45:04.50
They should.
00:45:04.53\00:45:05.87
But, Jeff, talk about the donor
with the matched challenge?
00:45:05.90\00:45:07.97
Well, this is such
an interesting case.
00:45:08.00\00:45:10.41
Two years ago a
lady called the office
00:45:10.44\00:45:13.78
and said she wanted to
give a $50,000 matching gift.
00:45:13.81\00:45:17.78
In other words,
if we could raise $50
00:45:17.81\00:45:19.95
based on her challenge,
she would give us $50.
00:45:20.02\00:45:23.79
And usually we're
encouraging people to give,
00:45:23.82\00:45:25.79
this was a case where I said,
00:45:25.82\00:45:27.16
"I want to come
and talk to you first."
00:45:27.19\00:45:29.59
And I went to talk to her.
00:45:29.62\00:45:31.46
And she asked us to
keep her name anonymous,
00:45:31.49\00:45:34.73
and we're going to do that.
00:45:34.76\00:45:36.50
But she lived in
a very humble home.
00:45:36.53\00:45:40.14
Now there are mobile homes
and there are trailer houses,
00:45:40.17\00:45:44.01
she lived in a trailer
house, that's a difference.
00:45:44.04\00:45:47.41
She had been
widowed more than once.
00:45:47.48\00:45:50.25
And I said, "Can you do this?"
00:45:50.28\00:45:52.91
And she said,
"Yes, I can do this."
00:45:52.95\00:45:55.08
She said, "I've
done it for Quiet Hour,
00:45:55.12\00:45:56.82
I've done it for one
of our mission schools."
00:45:56.89\00:45:59.09
But she says "I have
just a couple of things.
00:45:59.12\00:46:01.56
Is it okay if I
give $25,000 in 2018
00:46:01.59\00:46:06.23
and $25,000 in 2019,
00:46:06.26\00:46:08.30
what would you say?
00:46:08.33\00:46:09.66
What do I say?
00:46:09.70\00:46:11.03
Then she said,
"Give me a week or two.
00:46:11.07\00:46:13.34
I've got to put
some resources together
00:46:13.37\00:46:15.07
and I will send you
a check which she did.
00:46:15.10\00:46:17.01
Wow.
00:46:17.04\00:46:18.37
And I just
visited her a few days ago
00:46:18.41\00:46:20.98
to give her a report.
00:46:21.01\00:46:22.84
And the report was
that her $50,000 challenge
00:46:22.88\00:46:26.45
grant from a
widow's mite you might say,
00:46:26.48\00:46:29.05
she was a retired
church schoolteacher,
00:46:29.08\00:46:32.42
twice a widow,
00:46:32.45\00:46:35.86
196 people had given
00:46:35.89\00:46:39.86
a little over $54,000
00:46:39.89\00:46:42.63
to match her $50,000.
00:46:42.66\00:46:45.60
And she had a
huge smile on her face.
00:46:45.63\00:46:48.77
You know, like Ed
said... Did you say 194 people?
00:46:48.80\00:46:51.51
When you give
while you're living,
00:46:51.54\00:46:53.41
you get the joy of giving.
00:46:53.48\00:46:55.51
Yeah. Wow.
00:46:55.54\00:46:56.88
You expect... When we
give in our estate plan,
00:46:56.95\00:46:58.61
we were just making sure
00:46:58.65\00:47:00.02
that God gets what He loaned us.
00:47:00.05\00:47:02.72
But when we give
while we're living
00:47:02.75\00:47:04.09
we see the souls win,
00:47:04.12\00:47:05.45
we see the quality
broadcasts at 3ABN,
00:47:05.49\00:47:09.06
we see new areas being entered,
00:47:09.09\00:47:10.93
we see getting into
remote, impossible places.
00:47:10.96\00:47:15.46
We see what
Jesus said was the sign
00:47:15.50\00:47:19.50
that His coming was there
00:47:19.53\00:47:21.27
and that is when the
gospel goes to every nation,
00:47:21.30\00:47:24.21
kindred, tongue, and people.
00:47:24.24\00:47:26.34
Wow.
00:47:26.37\00:47:27.71
We see the
hurricanes, we see the crime,
00:47:27.74\00:47:29.88
we see all of this,
00:47:29.91\00:47:31.48
but the gospel
going to every nation,
00:47:31.51\00:47:33.21
kindred, tongue and
people is a sign of the end
00:47:33.25\00:47:35.58
and that's what we see today.
00:47:35.62\00:47:36.99
Amen. Yes.
00:47:37.02\00:47:38.35
Beautiful. With your
partnership and ours.
00:47:38.39\00:47:39.72
Yes. Okay.
00:47:39.75\00:47:41.09
Yeah. Now, Cami.
00:47:41.12\00:47:42.46
Yes.
00:47:42.49\00:47:43.83
Let's talk about
Papua New Guinea?
00:47:43.86\00:47:45.19
Let's.
00:47:45.23\00:47:46.56
You know, the Holy Spirit
is moving all over this world
00:47:46.59\00:47:48.63
on people's hearts to
give what they can now
00:47:48.66\00:47:51.60
so that we can
finish the work together.
00:47:51.63\00:47:53.74
And I believe we can do
that in this generation.
00:47:53.77\00:47:56.47
There is this couple
named Ellen and Simon
00:47:56.50\00:47:59.44
in Papua New Guinea,
00:47:59.47\00:48:00.81
our team was just
there and met with them.
00:48:00.88\00:48:03.08
They were Sunday
pastors, both of them,
00:48:03.11\00:48:06.48
with seven children.
00:48:06.51\00:48:09.02
They came across
the AWR broadcasts
00:48:09.05\00:48:12.29
and evangelistic series
00:48:12.32\00:48:13.69
and things that are happening
there in Papua New Guinea
00:48:13.76\00:48:15.69
and they have fallen in love
with the truth in the Bible.
00:48:15.72\00:48:18.39
Fallen in Jesus,
fall in love with Jesus
00:48:18.43\00:48:20.70
and want to become
Seventh-day Adventists.
00:48:20.73\00:48:23.23
Now they are not baptized yet,
00:48:23.26\00:48:25.50
but they will be
00:48:25.53\00:48:26.87
when we have our big
evangelistic series coming up,
00:48:26.94\00:48:29.17
which both of you
know very well about.
00:48:29.20\00:48:31.34
We'll talk about
that in a minute.
00:48:31.37\00:48:33.48
But this precious family
are so on fire for the Lord
00:48:33.51\00:48:38.51
that they have
decided sacrificially
00:48:38.55\00:48:41.02
to tear down their home
and erect a church building
00:48:41.05\00:48:46.55
so that all the community
in their surrounding area
00:48:46.59\00:48:49.69
will come to the
Seventh-day Adventist Church.
00:48:49.72\00:48:52.99
The little hut
behind that building
00:48:53.03\00:48:55.03
that you see there,
00:48:55.06\00:48:56.40
all nine of them are living
in a little hut right now.
00:48:56.43\00:49:00.14
Talk about giving
everything you've got.
00:49:00.17\00:49:03.61
And this church
will be used mightily
00:49:03.64\00:49:07.08
and it will be overflowing
00:49:07.11\00:49:09.01
and it will start
other churches nearby.
00:49:09.04\00:49:11.68
We just know it.
Incredible, right?
00:49:11.71\00:49:13.82
People are moved now to
really do something amazing
00:49:13.85\00:49:17.19
all over this
world for the Lord.
00:49:17.22\00:49:18.79
Yeah, and the
Lord picks the place
00:49:18.82\00:49:20.36
where He wants His blessing...
00:49:20.39\00:49:21.72
That's right.
00:49:21.76\00:49:23.09
And New Guinea
is an amazing place.
00:49:23.12\00:49:24.96
Let's talk about that, can
we? We have a project with ASI.
00:49:24.99\00:49:29.63
Yes.
00:49:29.66\00:49:31.00
And us, and Papua New Guinea,
that church that you saw,
00:49:31.03\00:49:33.87
we can put a roof on that church
00:49:33.94\00:49:36.07
for 800 bucks, $800.
00:49:36.10\00:49:38.97
The local people
will build the church.
00:49:39.01\00:49:41.11
They'll take care
of it and everything.
00:49:41.14\00:49:42.48
Put the
material. They'll fill it.
00:49:42.51\00:49:43.85
They're just asking that we help
00:49:43.88\00:49:45.21
and so that'll be part
of the offering with ASI.
00:49:45.25\00:49:47.32
And if people want to
help and give ahead of time
00:49:47.35\00:49:49.12
they can give to
3ABN or to us AWR.
00:49:49.15\00:49:51.65
And just mark it P&G churches.
00:49:51.69\00:49:54.09
I think it's...
00:49:54.16\00:49:55.49
You think about that,
00:49:55.52\00:49:56.86
$800 you can put
a roof on the church
00:49:56.89\00:49:58.23
and they will build it
00:49:58.26\00:49:59.59
and these people
are not baptized yet.
00:49:59.63\00:50:01.03
They're not baptized yet.
00:50:01.06\00:50:02.40
That's what's amazing
00:50:02.43\00:50:03.77
is they're so willing to
give everything they've got
00:50:03.80\00:50:05.40
before they're
even baptized members.
00:50:05.43\00:50:07.67
And New Guinea is
going to be blitz,
00:50:07.70\00:50:11.27
you know with
evangelistic meetings.
00:50:11.31\00:50:12.87
Over 2,000 meetings,
00:50:12.91\00:50:14.28
we're doing
health events right away.
00:50:14.31\00:50:16.48
We expect this to
be the largest event
00:50:16.51\00:50:19.31
in the history of
the Adventist church.
00:50:19.35\00:50:21.28
Wow.
00:50:21.32\00:50:22.65
Just... When was that?
00:50:22.68\00:50:24.02
Last April, we were there.
00:50:24.09\00:50:25.42
April, May.
00:50:25.45\00:50:26.79
And they had 300,000
people in the baptismal class
00:50:26.82\00:50:29.22
in one
conference, in one mission.
00:50:29.26\00:50:30.96
Three hundred thousand?
00:50:30.99\00:50:32.33
They're holding
them over to be baptized
00:50:32.36\00:50:33.90
during our meetings.
00:50:33.93\00:50:35.30
Wow.
00:50:35.33\00:50:36.67
And then we had our
team just back there,
00:50:36.70\00:50:39.50
it's growing, 500,000, 500,000.
00:50:39.53\00:50:44.31
We have a secret
00:50:44.34\00:50:45.67
we're going to
share on a future program,
00:50:45.71\00:50:47.04
well, not on this one.
00:50:47.08\00:50:48.41
But why not?
00:50:48.44\00:50:49.78
Well, you want to say it, honey?
00:50:49.81\00:50:51.15
Sure. Yeah.
00:50:51.18\00:50:52.51
Just go ahead
and tell the secret.
00:50:52.55\00:50:53.88
Yeah, let's do it.
00:50:53.92\00:50:55.25
I'm gonna preach.
00:50:55.28\00:50:56.62
Amen.
00:50:56.65\00:50:57.99
I'm so nervous.
00:50:58.02\00:50:59.35
Amen. Good will bless.
00:50:59.39\00:51:00.72
Just for one week. Yeah.
00:51:00.76\00:51:02.29
Amen. Gotta be wonderful.
00:51:02.32\00:51:03.66
What a wonderful
partnership we have together.
00:51:03.73\00:51:05.06
Praise the
Lord, praise the Lord.
00:51:05.09\00:51:06.43
If the Lord...
00:51:06.46\00:51:07.80
the Lord is
pulling all the stops out.
00:51:07.83\00:51:09.16
That's why we're gonna make sure
00:51:09.20\00:51:10.53
you get the information you need
00:51:10.57\00:51:11.90
to contact Adventist World Radio
00:51:11.93\00:51:13.67
to find out how you can
participate either financially,
00:51:13.74\00:51:16.50
or boots on the ground
00:51:16.54\00:51:17.87
as one of those preaching
the everlasting gospel.
00:51:17.91\00:51:20.28
Here's the
information that you need.
00:51:20.31\00:51:24.15
Adventist World Radio's
goal is to reach every person
00:51:24.18\00:51:27.12
with the saving
message of God's love
00:51:27.15\00:51:28.95
through programs
aired in the 200 plus
00:51:28.98\00:51:31.19
critically important
languages spoken in the world.
00:51:31.22\00:51:34.19
If you would like to
find out more about AWR,
00:51:34.26\00:51:36.66
or if you would like to
support the evangelistic series
00:51:36.73\00:51:39.09
in Papua New Guinea,
00:51:39.13\00:51:40.50
please visit
their website awr.org.
00:51:40.53\00:51:43.87
That's awr.org.
00:51:43.90\00:51:46.40
You may also
contact them at 301-680-6304
00:51:46.43\00:51:52.11
or write to
Adventist World Radio 12501,
00:51:52.14\00:51:56.44
Old Columbia Pike,
Silver Spring, Maryland 20904.
00:51:56.48\00:52:01.42