I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Removing pain
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Lord, let my words
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Heal a heart that hurts
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people.
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Hello, and welcome to
another 3ABN Today program.
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I'm Jason Bradley.
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And I'm so excited
that you could join us
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as we are getting ready
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to discuss Adventist
World Radio in action.
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And I assure you,
they're definitely in action
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and you will see
why in just a minute.
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So I won't spend
long on this introduction,
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because we have a lot to cover.
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We have Duane McKey with us.
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He's the President of
Adventist World Radio.
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We have his
lovely wife, Kathy McKey.
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She is the Social Media
and Outreach Coordinator
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for President Ted Wilson.
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We have Cami Oetman
who is the Vice President
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for Advancement with
Adventist World Radio.
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We have we Wisam Ali
who is a pastor in Israel.
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It's great to
have you guys here.
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Thank you so much,
Jason. Wonderful to be here.
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Super excited. Yes.
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Very excited.
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Now, I want to jump
into a little bit of history
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with Adventist World
Radio and all of that.
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But before we dive in,
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we're going to be
blessed in song by Pam Lister
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and she will be
singing "When I Turn to You."
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When I turn to You
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You were always waiting
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With a heart that understands
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before I speak
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And I learn from You
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all that really matters
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And though a million years go by
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You'll still love me
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I no longer look
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for a place to hide
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'Cause I know where I belong
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When I turn to You
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When I turn to You, dear Lord
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I know that I love You
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When I turn to You
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You were watching over me
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Through the eyes that look
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Beyond the faults I see
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And I learn from You
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You are always merciful
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Though I remember
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All that You've forgiven me
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I no longer look
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for a place to hide
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'Cause I know where I belong
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When I turn to You
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When I turn to You, dear Lord
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I know that I love You
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I no longer look
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for a place to hide
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'Cause I know where I belong
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When I turn to You
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When I turn to You, dear Lord
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I know that I love You
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When I turn to You, dear Lord
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I know that
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I love You
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Wow, when I turn to
you, what a beautiful song.
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Thank you for that Pam.
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I want to jump into the history,
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because I want to take a
look at the beginnings of AWR.
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So why don't you share a
little bit about the history?
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A text that we like
a lot is Habakkuk 1:5.
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"Look among the
nations and watch,
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be utterly astounded
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for I will work
a work in your days
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which you would not believe
though it were told you."
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We're seeing it
with AWR about...
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We began almost 50 years ago.
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And it's incredible to see
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what is
happening around the world.
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I like to tell people, you go
to the scariest place on earth,
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the most remote
place, you go to North Korea,
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or go to some of the
rebel areas of the world
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where the communists
are controlling their...
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Go to the Columbia for example,
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to the drug
cartel in the mountains
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and AWR's there.
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Amen.
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If we're not there, we will
be there soon by God's grace.
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Wow.
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And so with AWR being there,
that means the gospel's there.
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That the gospel is
there. That's right.
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It's all about
preparing people to meet Jesus.
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We broadcast on
about 1,000 radio stations.
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Using them to reach
the world plus shortwave,
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internet, AM/FM,
social media, any way we can,
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we will use to
reach the world for Jesus.
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It's thrilling and exciting.
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And I know that you have a
lot of powerful testimonies.
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Oh my!
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Let me, Jason, let me
take you to a special place
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we're going to be there on,
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is it May 25 I
think, right, Kathy?
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Cami, yeah.
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To baptize a five star general.
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He's leading a rebellion,
a communist group a rebels
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controlling this
area of the world.
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For 50 years they've
killed 40,000 people.
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The general who's in
charge of the whole country
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for the
military, for the country.
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And he's getting baptized.
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Well, the general
though is working with us
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to baptize this rebel general.
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And we're going to
give him an amnesty.
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Wow. And we're
going to baptize him.
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And imagine the influence
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that that's going to
have over all other people.
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We're expecting
at least 500 troops,
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at least 500 troops
would surrender that day.
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Man, that's huge!
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And give their hearts to Jesus.
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Amen. Absolutely incredible.
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But we also are
thinking about doing things,
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of course, in the metro
areas of the world, Kathy.
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That's right.
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AWR is focusing on the
hundred largest metro areas
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of the world.
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And in the United States,
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the first place
that we'll be going
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is Dallas, Fort
Worth and Houston.
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Oh, nice.
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Actually, we did something there
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several years ago in Houston.
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We had how many?
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In 2011, we had 130
evangelistic meetings
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in that area of Houston,
the metro area of Houston.
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And it was amazing.
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I mean, we had hall meetings
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and church meetings.
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Yeah, it was really exciting.
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Hundred and thirty?
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Hundred and thirty
evangelistic meetings.
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That's right, that's in America.
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That's not in
Africa or someplace.
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It's here.
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So we believe that we
had to reach the whole world
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and we realize too that
our own country sometimes
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gets kind of left behind.
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So we want to start here
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with reaching 100
metro areas in the world.
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Which is huge,
because I agree with that.
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I feel like, you
know, wherever somebody is,
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oftentimes that's the
place that gets neglected.
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We're always going
abroad and everything like that.
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So that's, that is excellent
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and you guys had 130
evangelistic meetings
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right here in the US.
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Oh, well, we'll
probably have another
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I think year from this
coming fall another 300
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in the two cities at one time.
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Wow. Yeah.
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Wow. In America. That's America.
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Yes. Yes.
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That's not even including
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what you're
going to do overseas.
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Right. Not at all. Absolutely.
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Starting to broadcast this year.
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Yeah, we're
broadcasting this year.
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We'll broadcast,
we'll do internet,
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we'll do a lot of,
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like God pods,
Cell Phone Evangelism,
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anything that we can
use, we'll use in those areas.
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We have a new
Chatbot we're working at now
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for our new cell phones
that it's so easy to use.
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Now break that down.
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What is a Chatbot?
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It's texting.
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And you get the text
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and then you
get the audio files.
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And then you sign people up.
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It's just so easy. Nice.
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It's amazing. Yes.
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So it's increasing
accessibility as well.
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Oh, that's right. Yeah. A few.
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There are, I think, see,
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what is it over 7
billion people on earth.
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Over 7 billion, 3 1/2
billion have smart phones.
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So they can get these
sermons on their phone
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that we can touch, analyze it...
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And the remainder have radios.
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There you go.
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They have radio stuff,
well they have cell phones.
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That's right.
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Most of them have cell
phones but the smart phones
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but, yeah, we...
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The world is shrunk.
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And in our day,
it's just amazing.
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It's so incredible. It is.
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What else is going on with AWR?
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Well, Jason, we are
living in unprecedented times,
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wouldn't you agree?
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Our generation has the blessing
to witness incredible miracles
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that are happening just
like in the Old Testament
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and New Testament times.
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And we have brought one
today, Pastor Wisam Ali.
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I am super excited because
we were able to go to Nazareth
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and film document
his latest miracle,
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you know God's
performed so many in his life
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which we get to
hear about today.
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But the latest one,
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it really, if the
Bible was being written today
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I think this one
would be included.
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So I want to introduce,
this is our video on Wisam Ali
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and let's go ahead and show
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the audience
this incredible story.
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Let's go to the video right now.
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My uncle had tried
to stone me to death,
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and now my cousins
were here to finish the job.
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Find out how God is
using Adventist World Radio
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to reach the Muslim community
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and other
difficult to reach areas
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with the gospel message.
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Hi, I'm Cami
Oetman, and this is AWR360°.
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Adventist World
Radio is broadcasting
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to the most remote
locations of the world
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in more than 130
different languages.
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We've been doing
this for the past,
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well, almost 50 years now.
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But I've never seen
anything like this before.
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From baptizing rebels
and assassins almost daily,
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we receive news
of amazing miracles
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taking place all
around those ole ball of mud.
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Wisam story
right here in Nazareth
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is an example that
especially touched my heart.
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Being born Muslim,
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Wisam was taught
to hate Christianity.
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So when his sister
decided to become a Christian,
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he was sent by his
family to kill her.
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But because of a
miraculous dream from God,
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he decided to
begin studying the Bible.
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He soon returned to Nazareth
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to share his new
belief with his family.
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And his uncle, upon
hearing this became very angry
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and ordered his stoning.
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This happened over and over
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until finally his
brother stepped in.
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Then his father advised
Wisam to flee the country.
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Years later, after
his father and uncle died,
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Wisam's mother
invited him to return.
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He immediately
saw an opportunity
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to share Jesus in Nazareth.
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So he decided to set
up a center of influence,
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where he used the
Bible to teach English
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to his fellow people.
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We also gave Wisam AWR God pods,
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which he
distributed among his community.
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Recently though, things
took a turn for the worse,
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as the sons of his dead uncle
found out what Wisam was doing.
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They too have participated
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in his stoning
many years before,
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and now rallied a mob
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and went to Wisam's
house to attack him.
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Wisam's wife Audrey
heard the commotion downstairs
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and rushed out to
see what was happening.
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She knew right away that
Wisam was in serious trouble
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and fell on her
knees and began to pray.
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Wisam's brothers
rush to protect him
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when he was hit
with a metal rod.
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But then his own
cousin pulled out his knife
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and stabbed Wisam.
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But to his
astonishment, the knife bent,
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leaving him unharmed.
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Wisam's brother then picked
up the bent knife and said,
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"Try again to
kill the man of God."
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As the mob
retreated, they threatened,
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"You will not
know where or when,
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but we will kill you."
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Only a few weeks later though,
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Wisam received a
shocking phone call
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that these same two
cousins have been killed
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while riding on a motorcycle.
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It just reminds me
that if God is for us,
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who can be against us?
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This miraculous event agitated
the Muslim committee so much
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that Wisam knew it
was the perfect time
00:16:01.02\00:16:03.19
to use AWR Cell
Phone Evangelism.
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He immediately
sought out someone
00:16:06.49\00:16:08.16
to translate the
sermons into Arabic.
00:16:08.20\00:16:10.67
He found a man named Jamil
who readily agreed to help.
00:16:10.70\00:16:16.10
Jamil worked for days,
sometimes late into the night
00:16:16.14\00:16:19.11
translating the
Bible based sermons.
00:16:19.14\00:16:21.91
As he read, he was so greatly
moved by the presentations,
00:16:21.94\00:16:25.71
that he felt
compelled to share them
00:16:25.75\00:16:27.92
with one of his friends
from the Baptist Church.
00:16:27.95\00:16:30.49
She was so amazed by the sermons
00:16:30.52\00:16:32.45
that she shared
them with her pastor
00:16:32.49\00:16:34.49
who was also
impressed by what he read.
00:16:34.52\00:16:36.83
He then sought out
Wisam to preach at his church.
00:16:36.86\00:16:39.69
Wisam presented
at the Baptist Church
00:16:39.73\00:16:41.90
sharing Bible prophecy,
00:16:41.93\00:16:43.47
our health message and
Ellen White's writings.
00:16:43.50\00:16:46.60
Their hearts were so
convicted that the pastor
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and almost his
whole congregation
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made the decision to be baptized
00:16:51.41\00:16:53.31
into the
Seventh-day Adventist Church.
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And on a beautiful Sabbath day,
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we held a church
service at the Jordan River.
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Then one by one, they
entered into the water.
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We soon had the joy of baptizing
00:17:04.49\00:17:06.52
these precious souls
with elder Duane McKey.
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God is calling
all who are willing
00:17:10.66\00:17:12.56
to proclaim His
last day message.
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Adventist World
Radio not only broadcasts
00:17:14.86\00:17:17.47
into the Muslim countries
in their own languages,
00:17:17.50\00:17:20.74
but we are working
with people like Wisam,
00:17:20.77\00:17:22.90
helping to share the
gospel message in countries
00:17:22.94\00:17:25.17
that still need to hear
the wonderful story of Jesus.
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Thank you for supporting AWR.
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Jesus is coming soon.
00:17:31.11\00:17:32.81
And He invites you and me
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to be a part of
this great movement
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that will light the earth
00:17:36.58\00:17:37.92
with the knowledge of His truth.
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From broadcast to
baptism, this is AWR360A°.
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That is an incredible journey
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and just the true
testament of faith
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in the face of
adversity and persecution by,
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you know, one's own family.
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Cami, is there something
you want to add to this?
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Isn't our God amazing?
00:18:36.31\00:18:37.95
He is doing miracles
today like He has done
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all throughout history
and we are witnessing it.
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We actually get to
hear from flesh and blood
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how He was saved
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by divine touch
protecting his life.
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Amen. Yes.
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Well, thank you very
much for the opportunity
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and for this invitation.
00:18:57.30\00:18:58.70
I thank the AWR
team and I thank you 3ABN
00:18:58.73\00:19:02.57
for hosting us here
00:19:02.60\00:19:03.94
to share with you this testimony
00:19:04.01\00:19:06.88
and this is all to glorify God,
00:19:06.91\00:19:09.04
this is for His glory.
00:19:09.08\00:19:13.08
It doesn't mean
that we have all to live
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what I lived in order to be
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faithful
follower of Jesus Christ.
00:19:17.42\00:19:20.26
So He calls us
all and He calls us
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according to our abilities.
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And coming from this culture,
it's a little bit different.
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I grew up as a Muslim
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for a very strong Muslim family.
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I was educated to be an imam.
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Some stage...
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What's an imam?
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Imam, it's like the pastor
or the priest of the Muslim
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leading in the mosque
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and the prayers and so on,
00:19:49.75\00:19:51.89
but to be an imam,
00:19:51.92\00:19:53.25
that means you
have to study hard.
00:19:53.29\00:19:55.42
You have to know the Quran,
the book of Islam by heart.
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You have to know the Sharia law,
00:19:59.13\00:20:01.26
which is the law of Islam.
00:20:01.30\00:20:03.67
And then you have
to know the Hadith,
00:20:03.70\00:20:05.67
which is the teaching
of the Prophet of Islam.
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This is the basic
things that you have to know
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and takes years
and years to do it.
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However, during this journey,
00:20:14.18\00:20:17.38
there was always
something missing in my life.
00:20:17.45\00:20:20.02
So in one stage, I
decided to leave my family.
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And, well, let me
say, I come from a tribe.
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So when we speak of a
family, we are a very large,
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we occupy the west of Nazareth.
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Wow. So a very
influential tribe.
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And my father was
the head of this tribe.
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So leaving my tribe
or leaving my family,
00:20:40.77\00:20:43.07
that's a great insult to them.
00:20:43.10\00:20:45.91
So taking this decision,
00:20:45.94\00:20:48.08
they decided
that they would write
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my name off of the family,
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but I insisted
that I will leave.
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During my journey,
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I went through a
lot of experience
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trying to find the thing
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that will fill
this gap in my life.
00:21:02.22\00:21:04.96
And in some point
00:21:04.99\00:21:07.40
I was involved with
underground business.
00:21:07.43\00:21:10.77
And these people,
they tried to kill me,
00:21:10.80\00:21:13.03
they followed me and
they start shooting on me,
00:21:13.07\00:21:16.14
I was injured.
00:21:16.17\00:21:17.61
And another miracle
that the Lord saved my life.
00:21:17.64\00:21:22.11
And from there, I
got the opportunity
00:21:22.14\00:21:26.35
to get to study in Europe.
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My sister was already there.
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In Europe, I found out that
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my sister became a Christian.
00:21:34.52\00:21:39.63
So it was for me
somehow opportunity
00:21:39.66\00:21:41.83
to contact my family
00:21:41.86\00:21:43.26
and to save the
honor of the family
00:21:43.30\00:21:45.13
by telling them that
my sister is Christians
00:21:45.17\00:21:47.64
and we need to
discuss the matter,
00:21:47.67\00:21:49.60
what is the penalty for that.
00:21:49.64\00:21:52.54
More than that, my
sister had a boyfriend
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and he was a
Seventh-day Adventist pastor.
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And they are
planning to get married.
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So now, that will
complicate the matter.
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Yes, the plot thickens.
00:22:01.42\00:22:02.75
Yeah.
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So I came back to Israel
00:22:04.19\00:22:06.25
and, you know,
when my tribe meets
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for taking a decision,
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in this time, the
tribe, the head of the tribe,
00:22:10.26\00:22:12.76
he has a stamp
from the government
00:22:12.79\00:22:16.13
that he could
stamp any documents
00:22:16.16\00:22:17.73
and he can take any decision
00:22:17.77\00:22:19.27
like he is the
mayor of the city.
00:22:19.30\00:22:23.07
They will meet under the
tent, the elders of the tribe,
00:22:23.10\00:22:26.57
and then they will be surrounded
00:22:26.61\00:22:28.18
with the young men of the tribe.
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And when we
enter in front of them,
00:22:30.78\00:22:32.68
we have to sit on the ground,
00:22:32.71\00:22:35.48
so out of respect.
00:22:35.52\00:22:37.99
So I shared with
them but in this minute,
00:22:38.02\00:22:39.75
it seems the Holy
Spirit worked on me
00:22:39.79\00:22:42.26
by forgetting the
story of my sister
00:22:42.29\00:22:45.26
is getting married.
00:22:45.29\00:22:46.63
So I was speaking
about her being Christian.
00:22:46.70\00:22:49.90
And according to the Muslim law,
00:22:49.93\00:22:52.63
if a Muslim will
change to be a Christian,
00:22:52.67\00:22:55.00
he will be given opportunity
00:22:55.04\00:22:57.51
or chance to repent.
00:22:57.54\00:23:00.61
If he doesn't repent,
for the honor of the family,
00:23:00.68\00:23:03.45
he have to be killed.
00:23:03.48\00:23:05.58
Now, if this person like
00:23:05.61\00:23:07.12
a female will be
married to a Christian,
00:23:07.15\00:23:09.58
for the honor of the family,
00:23:09.62\00:23:10.99
there is no
nothing called repent,
00:23:11.02\00:23:13.29
they will kill her immediately.
00:23:13.36\00:23:14.79
Wow!
00:23:14.82\00:23:16.16
And decision of the
tribe was go back to Europe
00:23:16.19\00:23:18.66
and ask your sister to repent.
00:23:18.69\00:23:20.96
And when I came back to
Europe, I said to my sister,
00:23:21.00\00:23:23.60
this is the
verdict of the tribe.
00:23:23.67\00:23:25.63
They asked you to
come back to Islam.
00:23:25.67\00:23:27.67
Now I have no
address of my sister
00:23:27.70\00:23:29.07
or what I have is
just their phone number.
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She was very powerful,
00:23:32.44\00:23:36.04
and she's still very powerful.
00:23:36.08\00:23:38.61
She said to me,
"What will help me
00:23:38.65\00:23:40.32
to gain the whole world
and I will lose myself."
00:23:40.35\00:23:42.45
Amen. Amen.
00:23:42.48\00:23:44.52
It was very challenging to me.
00:23:44.55\00:23:46.19
And then at the end,
we made an agreement.
00:23:46.22\00:23:48.52
Like she asked me
to study first of all,
00:23:48.56\00:23:52.69
German language.
00:23:52.73\00:23:54.96
And after one year, she
will hand herself to me.
00:23:55.00\00:23:57.60
I said, "If you
don't hand yourself to me,
00:23:57.63\00:23:59.47
I will be killing
every day one Adventist."
00:23:59.50\00:24:01.67
Wow.
00:24:01.70\00:24:03.04
And I was serious on the matter.
00:24:03.07\00:24:04.41
And through this journey,
00:24:04.44\00:24:06.37
the Lord found me
00:24:06.41\00:24:07.84
and instead of
killing my sister,
00:24:07.88\00:24:09.81
I myself became a
Seventh-day Adventist.
00:24:09.84\00:24:12.45
And instead of
stopping her from proceeding
00:24:12.48\00:24:17.02
in her plans of
marrying this pastor,
00:24:17.09\00:24:20.16
I helped in the wedding.
00:24:20.19\00:24:21.79
Yes, so you were
encouraging it now?
00:24:21.82\00:24:23.93
Yes, yes.
00:24:23.96\00:24:25.29
But here start the story.
00:24:25.33\00:24:28.16
When after my baptism,
00:24:28.20\00:24:30.57
I promised God
00:24:30.60\00:24:31.93
that the first people will
hear about Jesus from my mouth
00:24:31.97\00:24:36.74
will be my father house.
00:24:36.81\00:24:38.41
It will be my tribe.
00:24:38.44\00:24:40.68
So I decided to
come back to Israel.
00:24:40.71\00:24:43.45
And again, the
council of the elders
00:24:43.48\00:24:45.68
and the young men was there.
00:24:45.71\00:24:48.02
I was sitting on the ground,
00:24:48.05\00:24:50.29
and amazingly
00:24:50.32\00:24:54.46
they forgot my sister.
00:24:54.49\00:24:57.23
Until today, no one
of my tribe is asking,
00:24:57.26\00:25:01.90
"Where is your sister and
what your sister is doing?"
00:25:01.93\00:25:04.93
My sister is like
deleted from their memory.
00:25:04.97\00:25:07.84
In this minute when
the council was formed
00:25:07.87\00:25:09.90
and I was sitting there,
00:25:09.94\00:25:11.44
my uncle who is in
charge of the mosque, the imam,
00:25:11.47\00:25:17.18
asked me the
question, "How is your faith?"
00:25:17.25\00:25:21.22
So I looked at him and
I said, "It's the best."
00:25:21.25\00:25:25.95
So he suspected
there is something wrong.
00:25:25.99\00:25:28.02
That was a very
diplomatic answer.
00:25:28.06\00:25:29.66
Yeah.
00:25:29.69\00:25:31.03
He asked me, "Are you
still praying five times a day?
00:25:31.06\00:25:34.73
Are you still
reciting the Quran?"
00:25:34.76\00:25:38.80
So I asked
permission to stand and talk.
00:25:38.83\00:25:41.40
So they allowed me to
stand in front of them.
00:25:41.44\00:25:43.30
I said, "Before I
answered this question,
00:25:43.34\00:25:45.47
I have a question to all of you.
00:25:45.51\00:25:48.51
Who is the creator?"
00:25:48.54\00:25:50.45
They said, "God is the Creator."
00:25:50.48\00:25:52.25
I said, "Who is the healer?"
00:25:52.28\00:25:55.12
They said, "God is the healer."
00:25:55.15\00:25:57.29
I said, "Who
can raise the dead?"
00:25:57.32\00:26:00.46
They said, "God
can raise the dead."
00:26:00.49\00:26:03.32
Then I responded to them saying,
00:26:03.36\00:26:06.26
"Then if God can
do all these things,
00:26:06.29\00:26:09.60
why Jesus is
mentioned in the Quran
00:26:09.63\00:26:12.67
that He can do
exactly what God can do."
00:26:12.70\00:26:17.31
And then my uncle said,
"Do you say that Jesus is God?"
00:26:17.34\00:26:22.51
I said to him,
"Uncle, I didn't say it,
00:26:22.54\00:26:25.21
but you proclaim it."
00:26:25.25\00:26:28.08
And it seems that it
did tease him a little bit
00:26:28.12\00:26:30.99
and he was very angry at me.
00:26:31.02\00:26:33.25
So he without consulting
00:26:33.29\00:26:36.39
the elders of the tribe
00:26:36.42\00:26:39.39
commanded the young
people to start stoning me.
00:26:39.43\00:26:42.83
And they start, you know,
00:26:42.86\00:26:45.67
the pain is not in being stoned.
00:26:45.70\00:26:49.00
The pain is to see those
that you grow up with them.
00:26:49.04\00:26:52.47
Eating, drinking
and playing with them.
00:26:52.51\00:26:55.61
They will take a stone
00:26:55.64\00:26:57.05
and they will
change immediately,
00:26:57.08\00:26:59.51
immediately from
being loving to this hatred,
00:26:59.55\00:27:03.72
that they want to kill you,
00:27:03.79\00:27:05.19
but they don't understand
why they are doing it.
00:27:05.22\00:27:09.52
And they start
stoning me and got injured,
00:27:09.56\00:27:12.26
and I saw my father
commanding my elder brother
00:27:12.29\00:27:16.97
to step in and hug me.
00:27:17.00\00:27:19.30
And this minute
they will stop stoning,
00:27:19.33\00:27:22.24
because they don't
want to injure my brother.
00:27:22.27\00:27:25.17
They treated my wounds,
00:27:25.21\00:27:26.68
they brought me after a few days
00:27:26.71\00:27:28.48
back to this council.
00:27:28.51\00:27:31.15
I sat there, my
father was a very wise man.
00:27:31.18\00:27:33.82
He said, "My son
has just a question.
00:27:33.85\00:27:36.89
And he deserves an answer.
00:27:36.92\00:27:40.96
Any one of you can
answer his question."
00:27:40.99\00:27:44.06
My uncle said, "No,
we would like to give him
00:27:44.13\00:27:45.76
a chance to tell us
about his new faith."
00:27:45.79\00:27:48.23
In this time, I
had my Bible with me.
00:27:48.26\00:27:52.17
I asked again
permission to stand and I stood,
00:27:52.20\00:27:55.97
and I took over three
hours preaching to them
00:27:56.00\00:27:59.74
the plan of salvation
from Genesis to Revelation.
00:27:59.77\00:28:02.31
Wow! Praise the Lord.
00:28:02.34\00:28:04.15
And after that, my uncle said,
00:28:04.18\00:28:06.18
"We don't need more
evidence for his blasphemy.
00:28:06.21\00:28:09.22
Kill him."
00:28:09.25\00:28:10.69
And they again start
stoning me for the second time.
00:28:10.72\00:28:14.66
But from far
away I saw my mother,
00:28:14.69\00:28:17.93
she was standing helpless.
00:28:17.96\00:28:20.33
You know the woman stature
00:28:20.40\00:28:21.83
among the Arabs
differ a little bit.
00:28:21.86\00:28:24.60
She has no
saying in the community.
00:28:24.63\00:28:28.27
She couldn't do
nothing. She was just weeping.
00:28:28.30\00:28:30.81
And all what I heard
from her was give up son.
00:28:30.84\00:28:35.01
When she said this word,
00:28:35.04\00:28:36.38
I remember the
words of my sister,
00:28:36.41\00:28:38.38
"What will help me to
give up and win the world
00:28:38.41\00:28:42.35
and I will lose
my eternal life?"
00:28:42.38\00:28:44.72
Yes.
00:28:44.75\00:28:46.09
I said to her, "Mother,
I cannot give up Jesus."
00:28:46.12\00:28:48.36
And there I collapsed.
00:28:48.39\00:28:50.16
And I was told that my brother
00:28:50.23\00:28:51.69
helped me again by
hugging me and saved my life.
00:28:51.73\00:28:55.56
Was taken to the hospital.
00:28:55.60\00:28:57.20
They treated my wounds
and then my father came
00:28:57.27\00:28:59.80
to give me about one week time
00:28:59.83\00:29:02.84
to leave the country.
00:29:02.87\00:29:04.84
Otherwise, my blood
will be called free.
00:29:04.87\00:29:07.64
Anyone from the
tribe will see me,
00:29:07.68\00:29:09.04
he's allowed to kill
me without punishment.
00:29:09.08\00:29:11.48
Wow.
00:29:11.51\00:29:12.85
So I left the
country going back to Europe.
00:29:12.88\00:29:15.32
In Europe I decided to
give my life to the Lord.
00:29:15.35\00:29:19.19
I started studying theology,
moved from Austria to Germany,
00:29:19.22\00:29:22.99
from Germany to South Africa,
00:29:23.02\00:29:25.16
finished my BA in Theology,
00:29:25.19\00:29:28.93
coming back, flying from
South Africa to Tennessee,
00:29:28.96\00:29:33.67
to Southern Adventist University
00:29:33.74\00:29:35.27
where I did my
master's degree there.
00:29:35.30\00:29:37.97
Going back to
Africa where I got married,
00:29:38.01\00:29:40.58
and start travelling
the world with my wife,
00:29:40.61\00:29:45.05
teaching preaching
about Islam and Christianity
00:29:45.08\00:29:48.02
and how to reach Muslims.
00:29:48.05\00:29:50.59
Because sadly, sadly,
I say during my journey,
00:29:50.62\00:29:55.39
I saw many methods
00:29:55.42\00:29:57.43
and many ways in
reaching out to Muslims.
00:29:57.46\00:30:01.66
And all these
ways, me personally,
00:30:01.70\00:30:06.30
I don't really agree with it,
00:30:06.33\00:30:08.60
with all due respect,
00:30:08.64\00:30:10.44
because I believe
Jesus gave us the instruction
00:30:10.51\00:30:14.08
how to reach out
to the whole world.
00:30:14.11\00:30:17.15
Open and honest
00:30:17.18\00:30:21.22
without having masks
in front of our face,
00:30:21.25\00:30:24.82
hiding behind a mask,
00:30:24.85\00:30:29.22
thinking that we are
protecting our lives.
00:30:29.26\00:30:33.09
Jesus said, "Go
to the world, preach,
00:30:33.13\00:30:35.20
teach and make disciples."
00:30:35.23\00:30:37.67
And that's the way I'm doing it.
00:30:37.70\00:30:40.14
Preach and teach.
00:30:40.17\00:30:41.50
Having the Bible in my hand
00:30:41.54\00:30:43.74
and just the Bible
because I believe in the Bible
00:30:43.81\00:30:46.88
and the Bible alone and
it says "Sola Scriptura"
00:30:46.91\00:30:50.95
and that's the way we do it
00:30:50.98\00:30:53.82
until 2014.
00:30:53.85\00:30:57.19
My mother called and he said,
00:30:57.22\00:30:58.82
"We want you with your
family to come back to Israel
00:30:58.85\00:31:01.52
and to work for
the family business."
00:31:01.56\00:31:03.53
I said there, "But
my blood is called free,
00:31:03.56\00:31:05.69
how do you want me to come back?
00:31:05.73\00:31:07.10
They will kill me."
00:31:07.13\00:31:08.46
She said all those that
they were in the council
00:31:08.50\00:31:10.87
and even those that they
were part of the stoning,
00:31:10.90\00:31:16.81
they themselves
passed away, they died.
00:31:16.84\00:31:20.18
And we will issue a degree
00:31:20.21\00:31:22.81
that you come with your family
00:31:22.84\00:31:24.58
under our protection.
00:31:24.61\00:31:26.41
Said, "Well, mother, okay,
I will come in one condition.
00:31:26.45\00:31:30.12
I'll keep the Sabbath."
00:31:30.19\00:31:31.92
Amen.
00:31:31.95\00:31:33.29
She said, "Deal."
00:31:33.36\00:31:35.62
I said, "No, no,
no, no, it's not enough.
00:31:35.66\00:31:37.89
I'll practice my Christianity."
00:31:37.93\00:31:40.50
She said, "No problem."
00:31:40.53\00:31:42.60
I said, "More than that.
00:31:42.63\00:31:44.70
Every client will come
to the company of yours,
00:31:44.73\00:31:47.94
I will share with him Jesus."
00:31:47.97\00:31:50.11
She said, "Deal, come back."
00:31:50.14\00:31:52.47
That's huge.
00:31:52.51\00:31:53.98
So when I came back, I
worked with them in 2014.
00:31:54.01\00:31:56.28
And the Lord blessed us
with having a lot of people
00:31:56.31\00:32:00.65
coming to take Bible studies
from a Muslim background.
00:32:00.72\00:32:04.19
And 2015, I was called
by the Israel field to work
00:32:04.22\00:32:07.46
as a full time
pastor to the Israel field
00:32:07.49\00:32:11.53
and be in charge
of the Arab community.
00:32:11.56\00:32:14.43
Now being in Israel,
charge of the Arab community
00:32:14.46\00:32:17.27
that means in Israel
we have 1.8 million Arabs,
00:32:17.30\00:32:20.27
and in Palestine, we
have another 6 million Arabs.
00:32:20.34\00:32:23.24
So my district is
over 7 million Arabs.
00:32:23.27\00:32:27.58
And I'm the only person
who speaks Arabic there.
00:32:27.61\00:32:30.25
Wow. Yeah.
00:32:30.28\00:32:31.61
So you've kind
of got the monopoly
00:32:31.65\00:32:33.45
on the pastoral
ministry over there.
00:32:33.52\00:32:36.89
That's right.
00:32:36.92\00:32:38.25
And the Lord blessed us
00:32:38.29\00:32:39.62
then thanking the
General Conference
00:32:39.65\00:32:42.09
and many unions
00:32:42.12\00:32:43.46
and conferences
around the world.
00:32:43.53\00:32:44.99
They helped us in
renovating the center
00:32:45.03\00:32:47.10
that we have in Nazareth.
00:32:47.13\00:32:48.63
And there we start our
journey and doing activities,
00:32:48.66\00:32:52.70
program and reaching
out to the Muslim community,
00:32:52.73\00:32:56.54
to the Arab
community in general,
00:32:56.57\00:32:58.14
Muslims and Christians.
00:32:58.17\00:33:00.58
We run English
program for little kids.
00:33:00.61\00:33:04.48
We started with four kids,
00:33:04.51\00:33:05.85
today we have approximately 80
00:33:05.88\00:33:08.18
that they attend and
200 on the waiting list.
00:33:08.22\00:33:12.05
We have woman ministry,
we have computer programs.
00:33:12.09\00:33:16.73
And we have many
different other programs
00:33:16.76\00:33:19.53
there in this center,
00:33:19.56\00:33:22.03
and the Lord blessed
us with many baptisms.
00:33:22.06\00:33:24.07
That is incredible.
00:33:24.10\00:33:25.43
That, this center
today, for the first time,
00:33:25.47\00:33:29.27
a group of Muslims
comes together on a Sabbath,
00:33:29.30\00:33:33.31
and they worship the
Lord, sometimes up to 20.
00:33:33.38\00:33:36.48
From a Muslim background,
00:33:36.51\00:33:38.08
they come to worship
the Lord on a Sabbath day.
00:33:38.11\00:33:40.45
Wow.
00:33:40.52\00:33:41.85
Moreover, we were like blessed
00:33:41.88\00:33:43.49
by having the opportunity
00:33:43.52\00:33:44.85
to reach out to
Baptist Churches.
00:33:44.89\00:33:48.16
And as we saw on the clip,
00:33:48.19\00:33:52.29
and the AWR team joined me
00:33:52.33\00:33:56.30
on one occasion there.
00:33:56.33\00:33:59.30
The whole Baptist Church
00:33:59.33\00:34:00.67
decided to take
Bible studies from us.
00:34:00.74\00:34:04.01
So I started going there
00:34:04.04\00:34:05.57
and shared with them
our fundamental beliefs.
00:34:05.61\00:34:08.74
And then last month,
00:34:08.78\00:34:10.78
the church decided no more
that Wisam Ali will come to us,
00:34:10.85\00:34:14.75
we will go to his church.
00:34:14.78\00:34:17.29
And they start joining us now
00:34:17.32\00:34:19.29
throughout all our
activities and programs,
00:34:19.32\00:34:21.42
and they are worshiping
with us on the Sabbath day.
00:34:21.46\00:34:24.36
That is incredible.
00:34:24.39\00:34:25.89
And your faith must
have grown tremendously,
00:34:25.93\00:34:30.17
like you already
had quite a bit of faith
00:34:30.20\00:34:33.10
because even in
the face of death,
00:34:33.13\00:34:35.27
you were still
proclaiming Christ
00:34:35.30\00:34:38.77
and He's grown your
ministry tremendously.
00:34:38.81\00:34:42.81
If you have faith
that means you don't fear,
00:34:42.84\00:34:47.55
because God will give you
00:34:47.62\00:34:49.72
the confidence
that He is on your side.
00:34:49.75\00:34:52.49
Amen. Yes.
00:34:52.52\00:34:53.86
I mean, I'm not shy of Jesus.
00:34:53.89\00:34:57.13
And Jesus, He Himself
said it in Mark, He said it,
00:34:57.16\00:35:02.70
"If you shy of Me,
I will be shy of you."
00:35:02.73\00:35:05.93
And I'm not shy of Him,
00:35:05.97\00:35:07.34
because I know He is on my side.
00:35:07.37\00:35:09.30
I know that He promised
and He kept all His promises,
00:35:09.34\00:35:12.74
and the greatest
promise that He promised that
00:35:12.77\00:35:14.84
He will fill us
with His Holy Spirit.
00:35:14.88\00:35:17.71
The question, do we trust Him
00:35:17.75\00:35:21.15
that we have the Holy Spirit?
00:35:21.18\00:35:23.49
If yes, then we will not be shy
00:35:23.52\00:35:26.35
to stand in front
of the whole world,
00:35:26.39\00:35:28.39
using the Bible,
00:35:28.42\00:35:29.86
and just the
Bible to witness Him,
00:35:29.89\00:35:34.00
His salvation plan
and his soonest coming.
00:35:34.03\00:35:36.46
Amen.
00:35:36.50\00:35:37.83
We're excited to be able
to work with Wisam in Israel,
00:35:37.87\00:35:41.74
has been a
wonderful relationship.
00:35:41.77\00:35:44.21
Adventist World Radio
will furnish God pods to them.
00:35:44.24\00:35:47.08
We have Cell Phone Evangelism,
00:35:47.11\00:35:49.18
and the Lord has
blessed in such a wonderful way
00:35:49.21\00:35:51.18
and Wisam, you
and Audrey and Raquel,
00:35:51.21\00:35:55.32
you're just wonderful
partners to work with in Israel.
00:35:55.35\00:35:58.42
Yes, his beautiful wife Audrey
00:35:58.45\00:36:00.26
is standing by his
side the whole time
00:36:00.29\00:36:02.42
and she is just as bold
and deep in her faith as he is.
00:36:02.46\00:36:05.39
They make a
beautiful, beautiful team.
00:36:05.43\00:36:07.96
And, yeah, it just was,
00:36:08.00\00:36:09.86
you know, when we recreated
those scenes with Audrey
00:36:09.90\00:36:13.13
and when she saw her
husband about to be attack,
00:36:13.17\00:36:16.24
the first thing she
did was pray to the Lord,
00:36:16.27\00:36:18.81
you know, the same God
00:36:18.84\00:36:20.78
that shut the lions'
mouth in Daniel's den
00:36:20.81\00:36:23.65
can save my husband right now.
00:36:23.68\00:36:25.55
And she just,
she's a prayer warrior.
00:36:25.58\00:36:27.52
She is amazing.
00:36:27.55\00:36:28.88
And so they make
an incredible team
00:36:28.92\00:36:30.59
for the Lord.
00:36:30.62\00:36:31.95
A powerful testimony
00:36:31.99\00:36:33.32
and, Wisam, you're
not like a superhero.
00:36:33.36\00:36:35.79
You're not made of iron, metal,
00:36:35.82\00:36:37.73
or anything like
that, like you are...
00:36:37.76\00:36:39.76
I'm so fragile.
00:36:39.79\00:36:41.13
Got you, human being
because that knife bent?
00:36:41.16\00:36:45.27
It bent.
00:36:45.30\00:36:47.80
Yeah, tell him that story. Yeah.
00:36:47.84\00:36:49.70
Well, do you know
00:36:49.74\00:36:51.97
this generation
that they wanted me
00:36:52.01\00:36:53.68
that as my mother
said they all died.
00:36:53.71\00:36:57.35
It seems to me that
00:36:57.38\00:36:59.55
they were
telling the story of me
00:36:59.58\00:37:02.02
being converted to Christianity
00:37:02.05\00:37:06.02
was told to
their next generation
00:37:06.05\00:37:08.12
to their
children of the children.
00:37:08.16\00:37:10.53
And now when we
speak of my tribe,
00:37:10.56\00:37:13.06
we count of about 2000-2100 men
00:37:13.09\00:37:19.17
over the age of 21.
00:37:19.20\00:37:21.67
And that's just the men.
00:37:21.70\00:37:23.04
That's just the
men, without the women,
00:37:23.07\00:37:25.61
without the children, just men.
00:37:25.64\00:37:28.24
So you can imagine how many
00:37:28.28\00:37:30.05
we are in this part of Nazareth.
00:37:30.08\00:37:32.85
And that's just one
part of the whole tribe
00:37:32.88\00:37:34.95
in the Middle East.
00:37:34.98\00:37:37.69
And every day I
drive in their midst.
00:37:37.72\00:37:41.46
And every day I greet them,
00:37:41.49\00:37:43.83
even though they
don't greet me back,
00:37:43.86\00:37:45.46
but still my Christianity
asked me to bless my enemies.
00:37:45.49\00:37:49.26
Yes. So pray for them.
00:37:49.30\00:37:51.23
That's what
Jesus asked us to do.
00:37:51.27\00:37:54.04
Now, it seems that the
news spread in Nazareth
00:37:54.07\00:37:57.21
about the
programs and activities
00:37:57.24\00:37:59.14
that we are doing in
Nazareth Life Help Center
00:37:59.17\00:38:02.61
and seems that specifically
00:38:02.64\00:38:05.08
my uncle house who
is next door to me,
00:38:05.11\00:38:09.12
they are the
most radical Muslims.
00:38:09.15\00:38:10.99
They didn't like it much.
00:38:11.02\00:38:13.86
So they were waiting for
the opportunity to fight me,
00:38:13.89\00:38:18.16
but they are so scared
00:38:18.19\00:38:20.00
because the decree
was issued by my parents
00:38:20.03\00:38:23.90
and my brothers
to the whole tribe
00:38:23.97\00:38:25.73
that I am under
their protection.
00:38:25.77\00:38:28.94
So this young men
00:38:28.97\00:38:32.37
waited for excuse,
00:38:32.41\00:38:34.91
let's say or
opportunity to attack me.
00:38:34.94\00:38:38.38
And you speak of few of
them, not just one or two,
00:38:38.41\00:38:43.18
they were about maybe 12, 13
00:38:43.22\00:38:46.25
in the same building living.
00:38:46.29\00:38:48.59
And one day it happens that
00:38:48.62\00:38:51.16
we have a guest coming to us,
00:38:51.19\00:38:53.80
and this guest arrived
00:38:53.83\00:38:56.26
the entrance of our house.
00:38:56.30\00:38:59.70
This guest, it seems that
00:38:59.73\00:39:02.47
he had the music a
little bit loud in his car.
00:39:02.50\00:39:05.14
Now in my culture, my guest
00:39:05.17\00:39:07.64
is it's like
under my protection.
00:39:07.68\00:39:10.45
Anything happens to him
it's like happening to me.
00:39:10.48\00:39:13.85
So one of these young men
00:39:13.92\00:39:17.52
in my uncle
house from the window,
00:39:17.59\00:39:19.49
he starts screaming at him
and insulting him verbally.
00:39:19.52\00:39:24.33
It happens that in this time
00:39:24.36\00:39:26.13
I was in my way to go
to the center of influence
00:39:26.16\00:39:30.47
that we have in Nazareth.
00:39:30.50\00:39:32.97
So I went and I said to
them, "Peace be upon you.
00:39:33.00\00:39:36.34
We are not meaning it bad.
00:39:36.37\00:39:39.81
I apologize on
behalf of my guest."
00:39:39.84\00:39:44.68
They didn't like it.
00:39:44.71\00:39:46.41
They said, "We are
waiting for the opportunity
00:39:46.45\00:39:48.92
to kill you Kaffir."
00:39:48.95\00:39:50.59
And now the word
Kaffir means unbeliever,
00:39:50.62\00:39:52.85
but it's a very bad word.
00:39:52.89\00:39:55.69
I smiled and I said,
"I come to you in peace.
00:39:55.72\00:39:59.16
Peace be upon you."
00:39:59.19\00:40:01.83
Suddenly I'm asking
my guests to come in,
00:40:01.86\00:40:04.43
I hear a crowd behind me
00:40:04.47\00:40:07.34
is coming with sticks,
00:40:07.37\00:40:10.31
and metals, and knives,
00:40:10.34\00:40:12.84
screaming in a loud voice.
00:40:12.87\00:40:15.31
So I turn, I just said to
them, "Please respect my guest.
00:40:15.34\00:40:19.85
Peace be upon you."
00:40:19.88\00:40:22.65
This time also my
brothers in the house
00:40:22.68\00:40:25.19
did hear the
screaming, so they came out.
00:40:25.22\00:40:29.22
What I did, I turned my back
00:40:29.26\00:40:30.76
and I stopped my brothers
from clashing with them,
00:40:30.83\00:40:34.00
because in this time,
it will be really a war.
00:40:34.03\00:40:37.17
And it will be very bloody.
00:40:37.20\00:40:39.37
Because we are
talking here about culture,
00:40:39.40\00:40:42.77
and about the
honor of the family.
00:40:42.80\00:40:44.54
Yes, and this is
one of the things
00:40:44.57\00:40:46.24
I always teach in my
programs and presentations.
00:40:46.27\00:40:49.41
Whenever I do programs
about Islam and Christianity,
00:40:49.44\00:40:52.58
please don't send missionary
00:40:52.61\00:40:55.58
to a Muslim community
00:40:55.62\00:40:57.39
without teaching them culture.
00:40:57.42\00:40:59.19
Don't teach them Islam,
00:40:59.22\00:41:01.39
don't give them a presentation
about what Islam is,
00:41:01.42\00:41:04.76
teach them culture
00:41:04.79\00:41:06.59
because if you
don't know culture
00:41:06.63\00:41:08.16
you can cause yourself harm.
00:41:08.20\00:41:10.67
So I tried to stop my brothers
00:41:10.70\00:41:14.37
from clashing
with my uncle house,
00:41:14.40\00:41:17.51
and this time that I
turned my back to them,
00:41:17.54\00:41:21.04
it was very loud.
00:41:21.08\00:41:24.08
One of them hit me
00:41:24.15\00:41:25.48
with a piece of
a metal on my back.
00:41:25.51\00:41:28.82
And I felt it
00:41:28.85\00:41:31.39
and I like fell little
bit down on my brothers
00:41:31.42\00:41:34.26
from the impact of this
of the hit of this metal.
00:41:34.29\00:41:38.73
And I look up on the terrace
00:41:38.76\00:41:40.20
and this minute I see
my wife and my daughter
00:41:40.23\00:41:42.23
are standing there,
00:41:42.26\00:41:43.87
and she's screaming and
she's telling me something
00:41:43.90\00:41:47.44
but, because of the loud crowd,
00:41:47.47\00:41:50.24
I couldn't
comprehend what she's saying.
00:41:50.31\00:41:52.87
Yes.
00:41:52.91\00:41:54.38
In these seconds, I
felt something touched me
00:41:54.41\00:41:58.05
from in my back behind.
00:41:58.08\00:42:02.62
And two seconds later,
00:42:02.65\00:42:05.82
I hear a piece of metal
is falling on the ground.
00:42:05.85\00:42:10.56
And it was so silence.
00:42:10.63\00:42:12.83
It was the first
time I experienced
00:42:12.86\00:42:17.20
such peaceful silence
00:42:17.27\00:42:22.04
and everywhere,
everyone in the street,
00:42:22.07\00:42:25.34
even my wife,
00:42:25.37\00:42:27.08
even my daughter that I
saw the tears in her eyes,
00:42:27.11\00:42:30.15
they were so quiet
00:42:30.18\00:42:33.25
and here my brother
bow down in the ground,
00:42:33.28\00:42:36.55
and he holds a knife up.
00:42:36.58\00:42:39.35
Wow.
00:42:39.39\00:42:40.76
We actually have that, don't we?
00:42:40.79\00:42:42.62
Yeah, we do. This
is the very knife.
00:42:42.66\00:42:44.86
Wow.
00:42:44.89\00:42:47.23
This is the shirt
that Wisam was wearing
00:42:47.30\00:42:49.73
during this incident.
00:42:49.76\00:42:51.10
Actually, Jason, some
people say a bent knife
00:42:53.94\00:42:57.21
or Arabs have bent knives.
00:42:57.24\00:42:58.91
So I bought an
Arab knife that's bent.
00:42:58.94\00:43:01.98
This is like Lawrence of Arabia.
00:43:02.01\00:43:04.28
Okay. It's a knife, straight.
00:43:04.31\00:43:06.45
Yeah, that's what
a bent knife is for.
00:43:06.48\00:43:09.72
But the knife that
they had was like this.
00:43:09.75\00:43:14.06
Wow!
00:43:14.09\00:43:15.42
That's something
you'd find in the kitchen.
00:43:15.46\00:43:16.93
Wisam showed us.
00:43:16.96\00:43:18.46
They came at him
like this underhand
00:43:18.49\00:43:20.43
because they are
martial art specialist.
00:43:20.50\00:43:23.40
And then this is
the actual knife.
00:43:23.47\00:43:26.40
That's the knife. Wow!
00:43:26.43\00:43:28.57
See how it's bent the other way?
00:43:28.60\00:43:30.31
Not like the Arab knife.
00:43:30.34\00:43:32.07
Wow!
00:43:32.11\00:43:34.78
Yeah, that is incredible.
00:43:34.81\00:43:38.48
So it's just a butcher
knife and is straight like this.
00:43:38.51\00:43:43.15
It goes in an angel's hand.
00:43:43.18\00:43:46.09
It must have
been an angel's hand.
00:43:46.12\00:43:48.39
This kind of metal
you cannot actually bend
00:43:48.42\00:43:50.73
because it will break.
00:43:50.76\00:43:52.09
Yes. You tried it.
00:43:52.13\00:43:53.50
I did try it.
00:43:53.53\00:43:54.86
Yeah, my
brothers they try with me
00:43:54.90\00:43:56.23
like to take another knife.
00:43:56.26\00:43:57.73
If you bend it, it will break
because its stainless steel,
00:43:57.77\00:44:01.60
it's impossible to end it.
00:44:01.64\00:44:03.41
Even if you will heat it,
00:44:03.44\00:44:05.61
it will bend but it
will lose its color.
00:44:05.64\00:44:08.21
Yeah, it is discolored.
00:44:08.24\00:44:09.58
Yeah, and it will lose
00:44:09.61\00:44:10.95
also the logo of the brand name.
00:44:10.98\00:44:12.95
That's why we asked...
00:44:12.98\00:44:15.18
Garwin.
00:44:15.22\00:44:16.55
Garwin McNeilus
that many of us know.
00:44:16.58\00:44:19.12
He builds cement trucks.
00:44:19.15\00:44:20.86
He knows metal, he knows steel.
00:44:20.89\00:44:22.42
Yeah, and he knows
this stuff for sure.
00:44:22.46\00:44:24.23
He does. So he
looks at this knife.
00:44:24.26\00:44:26.80
And he said, "No
man bent this knife."
00:44:26.83\00:44:29.33
Amen.
00:44:29.36\00:44:30.70
And we ask also
others the same thing
00:44:30.77\00:44:32.10
and they said the same thing.
00:44:32.13\00:44:33.57
So this is the actual shirt
00:44:33.64\00:44:36.47
and you can see
that the knife went in,
00:44:36.50\00:44:39.84
just touched your skin, right?
00:44:39.87\00:44:41.94
And came right
back out like that.
00:44:41.98\00:44:46.82
Wow!
00:44:46.85\00:44:48.52
Isn't that incredible?
00:44:48.55\00:44:49.88
That is incredible.
00:44:49.92\00:44:52.95
I mean, God was protecting you.
00:44:52.99\00:44:54.92
He had many
things in store for you.
00:44:54.96\00:44:56.93
He still has great
things in store for you.
00:44:56.96\00:44:59.66
I became more confident on this
00:44:59.69\00:45:02.13
because they asked
me, "Are you not scared?"
00:45:02.16\00:45:05.07
Even my family
asked me the question.
00:45:05.10\00:45:06.94
"Are you not scared now,
00:45:06.97\00:45:08.87
Like continue to preach
and teach your Christianity
00:45:08.90\00:45:12.34
and the love of Jesus
Christ and the salvation plan?
00:45:12.37\00:45:17.15
Wisam, excuse
me, now your brother
00:45:17.18\00:45:20.05
when he picked up the
knife he said something too.
00:45:20.12\00:45:22.95
Yeah, when he
picked the knife up,
00:45:22.98\00:45:24.82
he came to them
and he said to them,
00:45:24.85\00:45:26.45
"Try to kill the man of God."
00:45:26.49\00:45:29.79
And now my brother is a Muslim.
00:45:29.82\00:45:31.43
Yes. Yeah.
00:45:31.46\00:45:32.79
So what they did, you could
see the fear in their faces,
00:45:32.83\00:45:37.47
they pulled back
and one of them said
00:45:37.50\00:45:40.74
the day will come that
I will crush your head.
00:45:40.77\00:45:44.11
And the other said,
00:45:44.14\00:45:45.57
"The day will come that
I will cut you in pieces."
00:45:45.61\00:45:49.81
And they left.
00:45:49.84\00:45:52.11
Now according to, I
will tell you what happened
00:45:52.15\00:45:55.38
but you know, just to
put a footnote on this...
00:45:55.42\00:45:57.72
I believe that we experience
Jesus in different ways.
00:46:01.16\00:46:05.53
And we do experience every
day of our life is a miracle.
00:46:05.56\00:46:09.76
Yes.
00:46:09.80\00:46:11.13
I mean if you read the stories,
00:46:11.17\00:46:12.50
what we receive from AWR
00:46:12.53\00:46:13.87
and what we see also
on the broadcast of 3ABN,
00:46:13.94\00:46:16.81
all this, this shows that
God is not a sleeping God.
00:46:16.84\00:46:19.91
Amen.
00:46:19.94\00:46:21.28
God is an
active, God is in action.
00:46:21.31\00:46:24.35
And to be honest with you,
00:46:24.38\00:46:28.55
the only problem that we face,
00:46:28.58\00:46:33.99
we are not just shy,
00:46:34.06\00:46:37.06
we are scared.
00:46:37.13\00:46:40.03
Not just to hurt
the feelings of others,
00:46:40.10\00:46:42.23
but we are scared on our lives.
00:46:42.26\00:46:44.07
Yes.
00:46:44.10\00:46:45.43
But from my
experience, I believe.
00:46:45.47\00:46:48.20
If it's my time to die now
00:46:48.24\00:46:50.21
that means God sees
that I accomplished the work
00:46:50.24\00:46:53.38
He meant to me to do.
00:46:53.41\00:46:54.74
Amen.
00:46:54.78\00:46:56.11
If I didn't accomplish the
plan that He put in my life,
00:46:56.14\00:47:00.98
no matter what I will face,
00:47:01.02\00:47:03.49
He will save my life.
00:47:03.52\00:47:04.85
Amen.
00:47:04.89\00:47:06.22
Just a year ago.
00:47:06.25\00:47:07.59
I think it was a
year ago right now,
00:47:07.66\00:47:09.16
Kathy and I met you in Israel,
00:47:09.19\00:47:12.13
we preached in your
church there Meganium Church.
00:47:12.16\00:47:14.86
That's right.
00:47:14.90\00:47:16.23
And you told us after
that you couldn't stay
00:47:16.26\00:47:18.47
and talk to you if
you're going to a funeral.
00:47:18.50\00:47:20.24
That's true.
00:47:20.27\00:47:21.60
What is that?
00:47:21.64\00:47:23.34
After the incident,
00:47:23.41\00:47:25.17
and they were
threatening me all the time.
00:47:25.21\00:47:29.54
Can you imagine every
day I drive in front of them
00:47:29.58\00:47:32.15
or I walk in front of them,
00:47:32.18\00:47:33.92
and every day I had
to hear the same words,
00:47:33.95\00:47:38.35
"We will kill
you, we will kill you."
00:47:38.39\00:47:41.12
They were like
trying to intimidate me
00:47:41.16\00:47:44.43
or to scare me.
00:47:44.46\00:47:46.09
But every day I had
this smile on my face
00:47:46.13\00:47:49.06
because I remember the
hand of God on this knife.
00:47:49.10\00:47:52.60
As I said, if He wants
me to accomplish His plan,
00:47:52.63\00:47:56.17
that means I will stay alive
00:47:56.20\00:47:59.47
because He is a living God.
00:47:59.51\00:48:03.11
Daily, the same music,
00:48:03.14\00:48:06.72
the same words,
we will kill you.
00:48:06.75\00:48:09.95
My wife was very terrified like
00:48:09.98\00:48:12.09
to walk on the streets
on her own with my daughter.
00:48:12.12\00:48:14.82
So after a while,
00:48:14.86\00:48:18.63
I received the news
that there was a car accident
00:48:18.66\00:48:21.20
and the accident how it happens,
00:48:21.23\00:48:22.96
it was like, we
call it freak accident.
00:48:23.00\00:48:26.03
They call me
from my, my brothers,
00:48:29.27\00:48:32.07
they told me to come back home.
00:48:32.11\00:48:33.88
And they told me the story
00:48:33.91\00:48:37.28
that these two young men,
00:48:37.35\00:48:38.81
the one who hit me
with a piece of metal
00:48:38.85\00:48:41.12
and the one who
tried to stab me,
00:48:41.15\00:48:43.08
they were riding a
motorbike in a very high speed.
00:48:43.12\00:48:46.52
And they had the
accident with another car.
00:48:46.55\00:48:49.29
And the driver of the
other car was 85 years old man.
00:48:49.32\00:48:53.19
But the 85 years old
man, nothing happened to him.
00:48:53.23\00:48:56.97
However, these two young men,
00:48:57.00\00:48:59.60
one of them his
head was crushed.
00:48:59.63\00:49:01.90
And the other was
cut in the middle.
00:49:01.94\00:49:03.74
Wow!
00:49:03.81\00:49:05.14
So you no longer had to worry
about them coming after you?
00:49:05.17\00:49:08.31
But it's very
interesting also their wording.
00:49:08.34\00:49:10.75
Exactly.
00:49:10.78\00:49:12.11
What they were
saying to me every day.
00:49:12.15\00:49:13.48
It happened to them.
00:49:13.52\00:49:14.85
I will crush your
head, one of them said,
00:49:14.88\00:49:17.75
and the other
one was telling me,
00:49:17.79\00:49:19.12
I will cut you in pieces.
00:49:19.15\00:49:22.36
It was a very sad story
00:49:22.39\00:49:23.76
because two young
men lost their life
00:49:23.83\00:49:25.93
without knowing Jesus.
00:49:25.96\00:49:27.40
Yes.
00:49:27.43\00:49:28.76
But it seems that for God
there is a different plan.
00:49:28.80\00:49:32.33
Seems that His plan is
not finished yet in Nazareth
00:49:32.37\00:49:34.77
and building His
house in Nazareth,
00:49:34.80\00:49:37.41
because this is
for the first time
00:49:37.44\00:49:38.81
we have a worship
in the Arabic language.
00:49:38.84\00:49:42.01
And it seems God is preparing
00:49:42.04\00:49:44.51
for something much greater.
00:49:44.55\00:49:46.21
Yes.
00:49:46.25\00:49:47.62
And if you read
the Old Testament,
00:49:47.65\00:49:48.98
He sometimes
said to the Israelites
00:49:49.02\00:49:51.12
"Wipe the whole nations out,
00:49:51.15\00:49:53.99
because if you don't wipe them,
00:49:54.06\00:49:55.79
it will stop the plan
of the coming of Jesus."
00:49:55.82\00:49:58.73
And Haman was
one of these stories.
00:49:58.76\00:50:01.23
Haman and Esther,
00:50:01.26\00:50:02.60
he was one of those
that they didn't wipe out.
00:50:02.63\00:50:06.74
So this is what happened.
00:50:06.77\00:50:08.97
And this is how the
Lord prepared the way
00:50:09.00\00:50:12.57
for the greater plan.
00:50:12.61\00:50:13.98
Amen.
00:50:14.01\00:50:15.34
That is incredible.
00:50:15.38\00:50:16.71
Just want to add here.
00:50:16.75\00:50:18.21
We have this nice story
where he has this, the center,
00:50:18.25\00:50:21.65
and there's other
lessons and everything,
00:50:21.68\00:50:23.25
it's not big enough.
00:50:23.28\00:50:24.62
Right above it
is another building
00:50:24.65\00:50:26.69
which is for sale.
00:50:26.76\00:50:28.79
We wished to have
the top floor because...
00:50:28.82\00:50:32.13
We need to have an
AWR Center of Evangelism
00:50:32.16\00:50:34.90
and Radio station on the top
00:50:34.93\00:50:36.33
so that they'll
broadcast all over Israel.
00:50:36.36\00:50:38.60
And do that for
about $750,000, I think.
00:50:38.63\00:50:41.57
That'll be huge.
Wouldn't that be huge?
00:50:41.60\00:50:43.10
And I'm glad that
you brought that up
00:50:43.14\00:50:44.47
because as our
time is escaping us.
00:50:44.51\00:50:46.54
Yeah.
00:50:46.57\00:50:47.91
And so I want to
find out what AWR,
00:50:47.94\00:50:49.31
what are the needs
of the organization?
00:50:49.34\00:50:51.58
Yes.
00:50:51.61\00:50:52.95
Well, we want
to thank our donors
00:50:52.98\00:50:54.48
because they
really do keep us afloat.
00:50:54.52\00:50:57.12
They're the ones that,
00:50:57.19\00:50:58.92
you know, are just as
excited about Jesus coming in
00:50:58.95\00:51:01.42
and wanting to
see the work finished.
00:51:01.46\00:51:04.16
And AWR wants to
finish the work and we,
00:51:04.23\00:51:06.80
if we can focus
specifically in Nazareth,
00:51:06.83\00:51:10.00
for this extra top
story floor to have the center
00:51:10.07\00:51:15.64
and broadcast
across all of Israel
00:51:15.67\00:51:18.01
the gospel message,
that will be incredible.
00:51:18.04\00:51:20.48
So we're looking
for support in that way.
00:51:20.51\00:51:22.88
And also, of course, prayers.
00:51:22.91\00:51:24.88
Prayers are huge for us
00:51:24.91\00:51:27.95
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00:51:27.98\00:51:30.22
and all of our AWR
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00:51:30.29\00:51:32.45
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00:51:32.49\00:51:34.16
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