I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Removing pain
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Lord, let my words
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Heal a heart that hurts
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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Hello, and
welcome to another program
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from your family at 3ABN.
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My name is John
Dinzey and I will be with you
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during this hour,
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this hour of blessing
because we have a program
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that has good news that
we'd like to share with you
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and for that, I would
like to introduce the guests
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that we have for today.
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I'm talking about
Pastor Hernell Hernandez.
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Welcome.
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It's a pleasure
to see you again.
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Pastor Hernell, you are COO
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of International
Children's Relief Fund.
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It is correct.
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Welcome.
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Thank you so much.
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And next to you,
we have Pedro Arce,
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Arce in Spanish Arce.
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Yes, sir. Welcome.
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You are secretary
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of International
Children's Relief Fund.
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Yes, sir.
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Thank you for being here.
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Thank you for having us.
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Well, they have some
good news to share with you
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about International
Children's Relief Fund,
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but also news about Cuba
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that you are going
to want to listen to.
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As a matter of fact,
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I will tell you right now
that it'll be good for you
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to get something to write with
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because you're
going to wanna write,
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maybe note on the program,
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and the information
they're going to share
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because this is wonderful news.
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Well, before we continue,
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we like to go to
the Lord in prayer,
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and we'd like to pray
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and we'd like to
let you know once again
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that 3ABN has a prayer partner,
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prayer warriors
sometimes they are called.
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And we have prayer partners
practically all over the world,
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in almost every
country in the world.
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And, this is a
volunteer ministry
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that people
participate in with 3ABN,
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you can sign up by
going to the 3ABN website
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and 3ABN will send
you some prayer requests,
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we're not going to send you
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all the prayer
requests we received
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because you will be overwhelmed.
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But we'll send you
some of the prayer request.
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And people are
hoping and expecting
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that you'll pray with them.
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So we encourage you to
go through the 3ABN website
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and learn how you can
become a prayer partner.
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And it will be
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a wonderful
opportunity from ministry.
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You will be blessed
and so will the people
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that are expecting a prayer.
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So at this time,
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we'd like to go
to the Lord in prayer
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so He will bless this program
and everyone listening to us.
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Let's pray.
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Our loving heavenly Father,
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we are grateful to
You for Your blessings.
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We are thankful
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because You have given
us another day of life.
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We bring before You, Lord,
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the needs of Your children
that are listening to us,
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wherever they may be.
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We know that You are
the all-powerful mighty God.
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And that You are
all wise, all knowing.
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And heavenly Father,
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we pray that You would
consider every request,
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whether we consider
them small or great.
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We ask that You will each
one give personal attention to.
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And, Lord, You know
what is best for us.
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Therefore we ask for those
that are asking for strength,
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for healing, for
financial relief,
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for help in their marriage,
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for help as well to
reach their loved ones,
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they have been
separated from You, Lord.
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We ask that You
will do what is best
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in each and every situation.
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Lord, there are
people that are even
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just suffering pain,
physical pain, emotional pain,
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we pray that You
will minister to each one.
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And, Lord, we also
ask for Your Holy Spirit
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to guide the words that we share
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so that Your children
will be encouraged and blessed.
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And that they will also see
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that You are doing
great and mighty things.
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We ask You for these
blessings in the Holy
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and blessed name of Jesus.
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Amen.
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Well, we are happy to
have Pastor Hernell Hernandez.
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And we like to
know a little bit about
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International
Children's Relief Fund,
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and so we're launching
that question now right to you.
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What is International
Children's Relief Fund?
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Okay.
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International
Children's Relief Fund
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is a non-profit organization
based in Tucson, Arizona.
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And they are
looking for helping people
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in its several programs.
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But the major
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is support the
Seventh-day Adventist mission
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around the world.
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So this is
practically what ICRF doing.
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And now the name
seems to imply children
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but apparently
based on what you said,
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it's an umbrella for
ministry in different aspects.
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Share a little
bit more about that?
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Children's, we're
all children's of God
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and under that
umbrella, we also cover health,
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evangelism, schooling,
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special with young children age,
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as far as the BBS
program as we have found before.
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And health message
through clinics, massage
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and other implementations
of equipment and techniques
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that people are needing
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to release their
suffering and pain.
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And this is part
mainly of what we cover
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with International
Children's Fund release.
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Okay, well, you not only have
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a mission of
reaching local people,
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but people
beyond the United States
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because it's international.
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Can you share a little bit about
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what countries you
have been focusing on,
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let's say in the
last five to ten years?
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Yes, we have the
opportunity to serve the Lord
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through the Chaplaincy Service.
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This is another branch
for International Children
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and a few years ago,
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we have traveled to
Panama, to Costa Rica.
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And coming to my
mind about one person
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who accepts the
Seventh-day Adventist message,
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General Manuel
and Tony Onirigua.
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It is a very
interesting character
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because he was a
government, you know,
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in charge of the
government of Panama.
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And he was in jail in order,
you know, to receive justice.
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So, at the time
when I was in Panama,
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I asking about him.
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So I pray the Lord.
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I said, Lord, if you
give me the opportunity,
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we can give it some support,
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some hope and, you
know, visit Manuel.
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It is hard because,
you know political issues.
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So we used to send
ICRF as our chaplain
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and the Lord opened the
door and we spent several visit,
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you know, to Manuel and
I think you was with me,
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at the end for that, he's
visiting him in the prison
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and finally in
the last date of him,
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I remember a...
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I talked with him.
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I said, Manuel,
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you need to make a reflection
not because I told you,
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because by inspiration
of the Spirit of God.
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So when you
think it's appropriate,
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you need to
present, asking for a pardon.
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A pardon, you know. Pardon?
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A pardon, correct.
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And I remember, I
receive a note from you.
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Hernell, I think
the Lord has answered
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because He made
a wonder statement
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and say it three
times, I ask Him the...
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You know, pardon
in order to receive
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the blessing from God
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so what's amazing
using ICRF as our chaplain,
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you know, working
in the jails in Panama.
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Yes, I remember that you
had visited him several times
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and then mentioned to me
the opportunity to go see him
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and it was an interesting visit.
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They've never been to
visit somebody of such stature
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as you want to say and anyway,
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he, I was glad to see
that when we went to see him,
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there was a Bible open and
he had a desk and so I said,
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well, praise the Lord, you know,
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the Bible is not far from sight.
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And so, it was good to see that.
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So he passed away, I understand,
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I don't know how long ago,
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but I understand he passed away
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and it was good
that we see evidence
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that he started
to follow the Lord.
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Praise the Lord for that.
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Amen. Yes.
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We have a song
that we like to share.
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There's more that
you will want to know
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about International
Children's Relief Fund,
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and the exciting things
that are happening in Cuba
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for the preaching of the gospel,
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so we want to
encourage you to stay tuned.
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But at this moment,
we like for you to enjoy
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the blessing of a song
that we're gonna share with you
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by Paulo Torres
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and he will be
instrumental violin
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and the title of the
song is "The Love of God."
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Amen. Praise the Lord.
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Amen.
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Well, the love of God
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and this is a
wonderful rendition,
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instrumental rendition of a song
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that expresses the love of God.
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I mean, you cannot
compare the love of God
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to anything upon the earth.
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The closest thing they
say is a mother's love,
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but it goes far
beyond of mother's love.
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Praise the Lord.
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We want to encourage you to pray
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for the ministry
in song the 3ABN has
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because this also is evangelism.
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And talking about evangelism,
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you know, 3ABN has
had a desire to see
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the fulfillment of the gospel
preached all over the world
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because in
Matthew 24:14, it says,
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"And this gospel of the
kingdom shall be preached
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"in all the world for a
witness unto all nations,
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and then the end shall come."
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And as we talk
about a place called Cuba,
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I know many people
have interest in Cuba
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and wonder what's going on there
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because communism for
many, many years had control
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and how is the
gospel advancing in Cuba.
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We've heard reports
from time to time about Cuba.
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In 2001, 3ABN
participated with the Spanish
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La Voz de La Esperanza which is,
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many of you know
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the Voice of
Prophecy in English.
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We have a Spanish equivalent
called La Voz de La Esperanza
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and 3ABN in 2001,
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early 2001 went with them
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and recorded an
evangelistic campaign.
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And that was called
"Cuba, Jesus loves you"
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with Pastor Alexander Bullion.
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A magnificent
wonderful opportunity
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to preach the gospel there.
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But, there are some
things going on recently
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that we'd like
for you to hear about
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because this is
an eyebrow raising
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and things that you
say, "Well, praise the Lord."
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So we want you
to listen carefully
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to what's going on.
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Pastor Hernell, tell us
about what's going on in Cuba
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in the preaching of the gospel?
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And what you
have been doing there
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and tell us how the
Lord has been working
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and opening doors
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because this is
just marvelous news.
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It is amazing
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about how the Lord
change the situation
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and you said, but
how can be possible?
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So for almost 60 years
of religion restriction,
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now the government said,
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"Yes, we want to
consider your proposal."
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Twenty years ago, I
start to visiting Cuba,
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and with the same propose.
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But...
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With the same...
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Propose. Purpose.
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Yeah, purpose, yeah.
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Okay, And I
receive a very welcome,
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you know, from the
government agencies,
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but I remember one time,
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I have a 45 minutes
with the same question,
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and I would like to answer.
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And I think I
answer appropriately.
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Their question was
this particular individual
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from the government asked to me.
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And at the end...
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And the question was simple.
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He said, how can be possible?
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You have this particular license
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from the US government
when we haven embargo?
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And I said to, well,
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I apply and the government
given the license for.
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And I say, yeah, yeah,
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but if it's something else
00:19:20.49\00:19:22.32
who give it to
you they'll answer.
00:19:22.36\00:19:25.09
So once again it's 45
minutes with the same question.
00:19:25.13\00:19:29.43
And I said finally, Okay,
00:19:29.46\00:19:31.93
I want to tell
you another truth,
00:19:31.97\00:19:33.94
I start with telling
the truth for to begin with.
00:19:33.97\00:19:37.04
But I want to tell you
who give me this license.
00:19:37.11\00:19:42.18
And I see these guys, you know,
00:19:42.21\00:19:44.91
pay more attention
what they have before.
00:19:44.95\00:19:47.45
And I said, "When
I give you the name,
00:19:47.52\00:19:52.55
you're going to believe me.
00:19:52.59\00:19:56.62
And it will be hard for you
because you are a communist.
00:19:56.66\00:20:02.83
The person who
gave me that is God.
00:20:02.86\00:20:05.50
The Lord give
me this license for
00:20:05.53\00:20:07.64
and do you trust me?
00:20:07.67\00:20:09.07
And do you believe me?"
00:20:09.10\00:20:10.44
And the guy said,
Yes, I believe you,
00:20:10.51\00:20:13.14
but I have sown lagoons.
00:20:13.17\00:20:16.44
So, you know...
00:20:16.48\00:20:18.55
So let me see if
I understand you.
00:20:18.58\00:20:21.12
You kind of picked up the
story somewhere in the middle
00:20:21.15\00:20:24.02
because you have
been given a license
00:20:24.09\00:20:27.16
by the US government to be
able to bring things into Cuba.
00:20:27.19\00:20:31.19
It is correct.
00:20:31.23\00:20:32.56
Even though there is an embargo.
00:20:32.59\00:20:33.93
It is correct.
00:20:34.00\00:20:35.33
You are able to
bring things into Cuba
00:20:35.36\00:20:37.27
to further the preaching
of the gospel and to...
00:20:37.30\00:20:39.77
Yes, it is correct.
00:20:39.80\00:20:41.50
We was in
partnership with the former
00:20:41.54\00:20:45.21
Seventh-day
Adventist hospitals in Florida.
00:20:45.24\00:20:48.81
So we feed, we
help hospitals in Cuba.
00:20:48.84\00:20:52.08
Okay.
00:20:52.11\00:20:53.45
And so they know us,
00:20:53.52\00:20:55.12
they know the
Seventh-day Adventist
00:20:55.15\00:20:56.92
is a good people,
trying to helping them.
00:20:56.99\00:20:59.25
Now that's very interesting
because you're saying
00:20:59.29\00:21:03.83
that somebody from
the Cuban government
00:21:03.86\00:21:05.96
had for 45
minutes kept wondering
00:21:05.99\00:21:10.00
or asking you who,
how did you do this?
00:21:10.07\00:21:12.83
How is it possible?
00:21:12.87\00:21:14.24
And so finally the best
answer you could give him
00:21:14.27\00:21:17.01
is God did it
through different means.
00:21:17.04\00:21:20.41
Exactly.
00:21:20.48\00:21:21.81
Because if I mentioned
I talk with this people,
00:21:21.84\00:21:25.58
it's a regular
procedure, but not for them.
00:21:25.61\00:21:29.38
Now this license
or this permission
00:21:29.42\00:21:31.52
or authorization that you
have from the US government,
00:21:31.55\00:21:34.29
how long does this last?
00:21:34.32\00:21:35.66
The permission was for a
temporary couple of years
00:21:38.63\00:21:42.53
and some amount of
money and have to inform them
00:21:42.56\00:21:46.60
every time when
I travel to Cuba.
00:21:46.63\00:21:48.64
I have to follow
some regulations.
00:21:48.67\00:21:50.81
Okay. Okay.
00:21:50.84\00:21:52.17
I cannot be in
hotels, I cannot...
00:21:52.21\00:21:55.78
So I respect all the rules.
00:21:55.81\00:21:58.35
But in this particular case,
00:21:58.38\00:22:00.98
he tried to asking me
00:22:01.02\00:22:02.88
for some particular information,
00:22:02.92\00:22:06.35
it is not appropriate I answer.
00:22:06.39\00:22:10.66
And in order to get
more implication, right?
00:22:10.73\00:22:14.93
So when I answer that, he said,
00:22:14.96\00:22:18.43
"O Pastor Hernell,
00:22:18.47\00:22:20.14
I know what kind
of people you are
00:22:20.17\00:22:21.84
a Seventh-day Adventists
and the final question
00:22:21.87\00:22:24.97
what I'm asking
you if we're about,
00:22:25.01\00:22:27.38
and he mentioned some names.
00:22:27.41\00:22:30.15
Do you know these people?
00:22:30.18\00:22:31.78
Do you know because
they are not in the same
00:22:31.81\00:22:34.88
like at the
Seventh-day Adventist?
00:22:34.92\00:22:36.58
They do counter
revolution and so.
00:22:36.62\00:22:38.92
So when I saw that, I
waited until he finished.
00:22:38.95\00:22:42.89
I said, "Sir
with all your respect,
00:22:42.92\00:22:46.90
or my respect, I wanna tell you,
00:22:46.93\00:22:49.63
you owe me an apologize."
00:22:49.66\00:22:52.27
And the guy's surprised.
00:22:52.30\00:22:53.87
"How can be possible?"
00:22:53.94\00:22:55.27
Yeah, I said
because I am not working
00:22:55.30\00:22:58.24
for the CIA or FBI
00:22:58.27\00:23:01.01
and even the Cuban, you know...
00:23:01.04\00:23:05.68
Political system.
00:23:05.71\00:23:07.05
Political agent.
00:23:07.12\00:23:08.45
I don't do that.
00:23:08.48\00:23:09.82
I am a Seventh-day Adventist,
00:23:09.85\00:23:12.25
the reason why I
live in the United States
00:23:12.29\00:23:15.52
is because I consider...
00:23:15.56\00:23:19.89
It's more much better
if I go out my country.
00:23:19.93\00:23:23.90
But now, once again
00:23:23.97\00:23:26.37
I think in my
relation over here is finished.
00:23:26.40\00:23:29.27
So, the guy tried to apologize
once again and once again,
00:23:29.30\00:23:33.11
but I returned to United States,
00:23:33.14\00:23:36.48
I've been
contact with the license,
00:23:36.51\00:23:39.51
you know, I
said, they recommend,
00:23:39.55\00:23:41.95
"Hernell, I don't
think it's appropriate.
00:23:41.98\00:23:43.69
You return with
the problem in Cuba."
00:23:43.72\00:23:45.59
So from there,
00:23:45.62\00:23:47.09
past 20 years until
a couple of years ago,
00:23:47.16\00:23:50.63
I was visiting Cuba
00:23:50.66\00:23:52.26
with the same
purpose, helping them.
00:23:52.29\00:23:54.46
Okay. Now I
understand a little better.
00:23:54.50\00:23:56.53
So you said this
happened 20 years ago?
00:23:56.56\00:23:58.70
It's correct.
00:23:58.73\00:24:00.07
This happened 20 years ago.
00:24:00.14\00:24:01.47
Now do you
still have the license
00:24:01.50\00:24:03.71
to bring things into
Cuba to further the gospel?
00:24:03.74\00:24:07.21
Okay.
00:24:07.28\00:24:08.61
Now up here International
Children's Relief Fund.
00:24:08.64\00:24:12.25
So with the
experience of what I had before
00:24:12.28\00:24:14.45
with the government of Cuba,
00:24:14.48\00:24:15.82
I incorporate ICRF
as a CEO in Tennessee.
00:24:15.85\00:24:21.32
So I now develop
00:24:21.36\00:24:23.26
this new concept and once again,
00:24:23.29\00:24:26.73
in one of my visits,
one of this guy come to me.
00:24:26.80\00:24:31.23
Not the same guy, another?
00:24:31.27\00:24:32.60
No, no, no. I said...
00:24:32.63\00:24:33.97
Another guy?
00:24:34.04\00:24:35.37
Another new guy and more charm,
00:24:35.40\00:24:39.21
more friendly, of
course, total different.
00:24:39.24\00:24:44.25
And in one of the interview,
he said, Pastor Hernell,
00:24:44.28\00:24:49.52
how do you think Cuba
as a religious liberty?
00:24:49.55\00:24:53.96
And I said, well, I
wanted to tell you the truth.
00:24:53.99\00:24:59.63
I live in 1988,
1980 because I...
00:24:59.66\00:25:05.77
You left Cuba in 1980?
00:25:05.80\00:25:07.67
Yeah, in 1980. Okay.
00:25:07.70\00:25:09.04
And Andreso was the
first in my family moved to US
00:25:09.07\00:25:15.38
so his family reunion.
00:25:15.41\00:25:16.75
But the second
one is more important.
00:25:16.78\00:25:19.45
I lost the
opportunity to be a doctor
00:25:19.48\00:25:24.42
because the
government don't allowed to me
00:25:24.45\00:25:27.69
to go to school in Cuba.
00:25:27.72\00:25:32.39
And no
opportunity because Saturday
00:25:32.43\00:25:34.53
you have to go, even now.
00:25:34.56\00:25:35.90
Even now.
00:25:35.93\00:25:37.27
Yeah, you have to attend...
00:25:37.30\00:25:38.63
In school, in
universities, you have to...
00:25:38.67\00:25:40.04
You have to attend a...
00:25:40.07\00:25:41.40
Sabbath school on Saturdays.
00:25:41.44\00:25:42.77
On Saturday.
00:25:42.80\00:25:44.14
So I said but my
surprise is I come in
00:25:44.17\00:25:46.11
and I see hundreds of
Seventh-day Adventist,
00:25:46.14\00:25:49.64
doctors, professionals,
and is something strange.
00:25:49.68\00:25:53.92
Yes.
00:25:53.95\00:25:55.28
Yes, they say
yes, yes of course.
00:25:55.32\00:25:57.19
Now, you don't have
to hide your belief,
00:25:57.22\00:26:01.96
even if you want to be
00:26:01.99\00:26:03.32
a member of the communist party.
00:26:03.36\00:26:05.26
I respect you, I made
the government respect.
00:26:05.29\00:26:07.93
I say, "Wow, it's good news
for me because I don't know,"
00:26:07.96\00:26:11.53
I answered to him.
00:26:11.57\00:26:12.90
This is very, very interesting
and I know some stories
00:26:12.93\00:26:15.27
about some pastors,
00:26:15.30\00:26:16.64
they had very
difficult times in Cuba
00:26:16.71\00:26:20.68
because they were pastors.
00:26:20.71\00:26:22.54
But now, you're saying
00:26:22.58\00:26:23.95
that there's
been a change in Cuba
00:26:23.98\00:26:26.38
where it's not as
dangerous, can I say that way?
00:26:26.41\00:26:29.55
It's correct.
00:26:29.58\00:26:30.92
Dangerous to say
that you're a Christian.
00:26:30.99\00:26:33.19
And so now it seems
like tension is lower
00:26:33.22\00:26:38.59
perhaps in this area
and you're not marginalized
00:26:38.63\00:26:43.00
as much as before
00:26:43.03\00:26:44.37
or there may be
still some left I guess.
00:26:44.40\00:26:47.27
But opportunities are open
now for Christians to do things.
00:26:47.34\00:26:52.24
Well, really...
00:26:52.27\00:26:54.54
I know some Christians though,
00:26:54.58\00:26:55.98
I know some
Seventh-day Adventists
00:26:56.01\00:26:57.35
that have gone to jail
00:26:57.38\00:26:58.98
because of
their beliefs in Cuba.
00:26:59.01\00:27:01.02
It is correct. Yes.
00:27:01.05\00:27:02.38
Well, I was one of them.
00:27:02.42\00:27:03.79
You were one of them?
00:27:03.82\00:27:05.15
Exactly, I was one of them.
00:27:05.19\00:27:06.52
But now he said,
00:27:06.55\00:27:08.36
"Tell me what is
your appreciation
00:27:08.39\00:27:10.43
about Christian or
religious liberty?"
00:27:10.46\00:27:14.00
So I answer him that way.
00:27:14.03\00:27:15.56
But, the very interesting point
what I want to make emphasize
00:27:15.60\00:27:19.33
is a this guy told me,
00:27:19.37\00:27:22.84
"Hernell,
00:27:22.87\00:27:24.21
we have a several
individual religious like you
00:27:27.08\00:27:31.65
but are not Adventists."
00:27:31.68\00:27:33.42
And he mentioned
the denomination,
00:27:33.45\00:27:35.65
who do counter
revolution activities
00:27:35.68\00:27:38.55
in Cuba right now.
00:27:38.59\00:27:39.92
Okay.
00:27:39.95\00:27:41.29
You know, so people's
looking like Christian,
00:27:41.32\00:27:43.63
but they are not
because I believe
00:27:43.66\00:27:45.99
that real Christian is
not involved in politics.
00:27:46.03\00:27:51.50
Okay. You have to be careful.
00:27:51.53\00:27:53.17
Political movement.
00:27:53.20\00:27:54.54
Exactly.
00:27:54.57\00:27:56.27
So at the time
00:27:56.30\00:27:57.87
when he has start
preparing the approach,
00:27:57.91\00:28:02.41
I am thinking 20
years back, right?
00:28:02.44\00:28:05.95
When the guy told me,
00:28:05.98\00:28:07.32
"Hey, what do you
think about this guys and..."
00:28:07.35\00:28:10.09
But the guy 20 years ago
00:28:10.12\00:28:11.59
was trying to
get your cooperation
00:28:11.62\00:28:14.72
to do things for
the Cuban government.
00:28:14.76\00:28:16.49
It is correct.
00:28:16.52\00:28:17.89
This is what I smell at the time
00:28:17.93\00:28:20.70
when he
approached and questioned.
00:28:20.73\00:28:22.06
Twenty years ago,
but now recently...
00:28:22.10\00:28:24.93
Yes, I have this
interview with him,
00:28:24.97\00:28:27.57
he asked me this question
and I'm suspicious again.
00:28:27.64\00:28:31.31
Oh, they're coming
from the same 45 minutes
00:28:31.34\00:28:34.01
with another question.
00:28:34.08\00:28:35.61
So he show me,
00:28:35.64\00:28:37.35
he said the
Seventh-day Adventist
00:28:37.38\00:28:40.22
is not involved
00:28:40.25\00:28:41.58
in counter
revolution activities over here,
00:28:41.62\00:28:43.69
but in some religion,
00:28:43.72\00:28:45.05
yes and he mentioned
the name of the religion
00:28:45.09\00:28:47.36
and that do you
know something about it
00:28:47.39\00:28:48.99
and I said, "Ah.
00:28:49.02\00:28:50.73
Let me tell you something.
00:28:50.76\00:28:52.13
Twenty years ago and
I refreshed the memory
00:28:52.16\00:28:54.66
what's happened, and
I don't want to answer.
00:28:54.70\00:28:59.80
If you're going
that direction, please,
00:28:59.83\00:29:01.87
I think we are
finished this conversation.
00:29:01.90\00:29:04.74
And the guy said,
"No, no, not at all.
00:29:04.77\00:29:07.31
It is only to see
00:29:07.38\00:29:10.35
what is your
observational look at it.
00:29:10.38\00:29:13.08
How you can observe,
00:29:13.11\00:29:15.32
what observation
you can bring in order
00:29:15.35\00:29:17.75
the Cuban
government can say yes,
00:29:17.79\00:29:21.69
we have a religious liberty?"
00:29:21.72\00:29:24.93
I said, "Well," and, Dinzey,
00:29:24.96\00:29:28.43
it is the time where
the Lord give me a surprise.
00:29:28.46\00:29:34.77
Because it's nothing is
coming in my mind to answer.
00:29:34.80\00:29:39.81
And I don't
think about the answer
00:29:39.84\00:29:42.48
in order to give it to
him, what he's asking for.
00:29:42.51\00:29:45.45
So the point is, I said, really?
00:29:45.48\00:29:49.82
Do you want to
know what you can do?
00:29:49.85\00:29:52.89
Yes.
00:29:52.92\00:29:54.89
Give opportunity to
have a television station.
00:29:54.92\00:29:58.43
Not for Seventh-day
Adventist, for everyone.
00:29:58.46\00:30:01.20
And people can see
00:30:01.23\00:30:03.70
something
different beside politics.
00:30:03.77\00:30:06.43
You can see something to
care about people himself,
00:30:06.47\00:30:10.24
take care about the family.
00:30:10.31\00:30:11.64
Take care about a
belief what you show me.
00:30:11.67\00:30:14.81
So I think it is the opportunity
00:30:14.84\00:30:16.98
for the government to do that.
00:30:17.05\00:30:18.38
So you asked the government
to give the opportunity
00:30:18.41\00:30:21.95
to have a Christian
television channel in Cuba?
00:30:21.98\00:30:24.69
Correct. Okay.
00:30:24.72\00:30:26.05
Now let me ask
you another question
00:30:26.09\00:30:27.46
related to this and maybe
either Pedro or you can answer.
00:30:27.49\00:30:33.16
What is the current
situation for television?
00:30:33.19\00:30:38.70
You go to some countries
and all the frequencies
00:30:38.73\00:30:40.77
are taken with
different channels.
00:30:40.84\00:30:43.04
How is Cuba?
00:30:43.07\00:30:45.24
How many channels do
they have on the air?
00:30:45.27\00:30:47.18
Can anyone get a
television license?
00:30:47.21\00:30:50.35
Or is it only the government
that can have a television?
00:30:50.38\00:30:54.62
The government
controls the television system,
00:30:54.65\00:30:59.49
the internet, the nets...
00:30:59.52\00:31:04.13
The nets? The nets.
00:31:04.16\00:31:05.86
So they do have only
two channels on Cuba.
00:31:05.89\00:31:09.10
But right now...
00:31:09.13\00:31:10.47
Nationwide only?
00:31:10.50\00:31:11.83
Yes, national
wide all two channels.
00:31:11.87\00:31:13.47
But now, with the
internet opening in Cuba,
00:31:13.54\00:31:18.84
they have access now
00:31:18.87\00:31:20.21
to a lot of other
different programs
00:31:20.28\00:31:22.71
that are not provided
by those two channels.
00:31:22.74\00:31:27.15
So now they have the opportunity
00:31:27.22\00:31:29.38
to select
different package of movies,
00:31:29.42\00:31:35.39
different
things, nature, health,
00:31:35.42\00:31:37.89
different topics that they want.
00:31:37.93\00:31:39.89
And they were...
00:31:39.93\00:31:41.26
But only on
those two TV channels.
00:31:41.30\00:31:43.77
No.
00:31:43.80\00:31:45.13
This is totally
different. Totally different.
00:31:45.17\00:31:46.50
They pluck the...
00:31:46.53\00:31:47.97
They buy like a memory...
00:31:48.00\00:31:49.34
A memory?
00:31:49.37\00:31:50.71
RAM that will
have all the programs
00:31:50.74\00:31:53.81
that you would
choose for a whole month.
00:31:53.88\00:31:56.41
It's like a cable
00:31:56.44\00:31:58.45
so we can
understand and in that,
00:31:58.48\00:32:01.55
we'll have all that you
want choose on the month
00:32:01.58\00:32:04.52
and they have
access to that too.
00:32:04.55\00:32:06.69
In addition to
the two TV stations
00:32:06.76\00:32:09.16
that they have there.
00:32:09.19\00:32:10.53
So it's not that you are,
00:32:10.56\00:32:13.13
people turn on their TV
and they can get more channels.
00:32:13.16\00:32:16.53
They can only get two channels.
00:32:16.56\00:32:17.90
Exactly.
00:32:17.93\00:32:19.27
Pastor Hernell is
saying we want another channel
00:32:19.30\00:32:21.50
that will be three channels
00:32:21.54\00:32:23.27
on the air that
people can access to.
00:32:23.30\00:32:25.71
Now these are free
television channels?
00:32:25.74\00:32:27.08
Yes. Correct.
00:32:27.11\00:32:28.44
You want to get a third
free television channel.
00:32:28.48\00:32:30.55
Correct.
00:32:30.58\00:32:31.91
But you're talking
about something else
00:32:31.95\00:32:33.28
that I'm familiar with,
00:32:33.31\00:32:34.65
and that is that the
people in the streets
00:32:34.68\00:32:36.02
sell TV programs, movies,
soap operas, comedies whatever.
00:32:36.05\00:32:41.86
Correct.
00:32:41.89\00:32:43.22
And they're
selling them on memories
00:32:43.26\00:32:44.93
that people can
put into their computer
00:32:44.96\00:32:46.59
and then be able to see
these television things.
00:32:46.63\00:32:49.43
Of course. Yes.
00:32:49.46\00:32:50.97
All of these programs
have to be authorized.
00:32:51.00\00:32:55.34
Authorized by the government.
00:32:55.37\00:32:57.31
It is nobody can
go over there with,
00:32:57.34\00:32:59.67
well I want to show
this and people can buy
00:32:59.71\00:33:02.08
in the corner of the house.
00:33:02.11\00:33:03.75
No, no, no, no.
00:33:03.78\00:33:05.11
They supervise everything
00:33:05.15\00:33:07.02
because the origin of
this particular program
00:33:07.05\00:33:10.39
has to be
authorized for the government.
00:33:10.42\00:33:11.99
Okay.
00:33:12.02\00:33:13.36
So at a time when I
said that to this guy
00:33:13.39\00:33:16.49
and he said
quickly, Pastor Hernandez,
00:33:16.52\00:33:20.33
I would like to
help you but I cannot.
00:33:20.40\00:33:23.80
He said, "You can guide me."
00:33:23.87\00:33:27.94
And...
00:33:27.97\00:33:29.64
Now this is interesting.
00:33:29.67\00:33:31.01
An interesting response
00:33:31.04\00:33:32.37
because I would
like to help you he said.
00:33:32.41\00:33:35.74
Now this is a communist
leader in the government?
00:33:35.78\00:33:38.61
Correct. That's
very interesting.
00:33:38.65\00:33:40.15
How did he go? What did he say?
00:33:40.22\00:33:41.92
Well, after couple of visits,
00:33:41.95\00:33:47.99
we take it maybe a year,
00:33:48.02\00:33:51.06
I receive a connection
00:33:51.09\00:33:53.29
with some particular
level of the government.
00:33:53.33\00:33:56.97
And one of them suggest,
you have to write a letter.
00:33:57.00\00:33:59.93
Okay.
00:33:59.97\00:34:01.30
And I said, "Well,
a letter, very well."
00:34:01.34\00:34:03.91
Yes, yes.
00:34:03.94\00:34:05.27
So I tried to include
the Seventh-day Adventist,
00:34:05.31\00:34:08.71
you know, to make the letter.
00:34:08.74\00:34:11.28
And for some wise
advice and reasons,
00:34:11.31\00:34:17.69
we don't do
00:34:17.72\00:34:19.05
with the
Seventh-day Adventist Church.
00:34:19.09\00:34:20.66
So I have to write
the letter of president
00:34:20.69\00:34:24.03
of the International Children.
00:34:24.06\00:34:26.09
So we sent this letter
to the president of Cuba.
00:34:26.13\00:34:30.80
Can you explain the
reason why it is wise
00:34:30.87\00:34:33.17
not to include the
Seventh-day Adventist Church
00:34:33.20\00:34:35.64
in the letter to
the government of Cuba?
00:34:35.67\00:34:38.74
In this that you're trying
00:34:38.77\00:34:40.41
to do together a
television channel?
00:34:40.48\00:34:42.11
It is very wise not to
because if we did that,
00:34:42.14\00:34:46.85
that way, then
they will pinpoint
00:34:46.92\00:34:49.88
the Adventist Church
00:34:49.92\00:34:52.62
for any single fault
00:34:52.65\00:34:54.62
that they may see or
think that it would be.
00:34:54.66\00:34:58.66
So by not putting the name
of Seventh-day Adventist but...
00:34:58.69\00:35:05.07
In the proposal.
00:35:05.10\00:35:06.43
In the proposal but doing it
00:35:06.47\00:35:08.70
with the
Seventh-day Adventist Church
00:35:08.74\00:35:10.71
is gonna be an obvious.
00:35:10.74\00:35:12.37
It shows that this is who I am,
00:35:12.41\00:35:14.68
but I'm not showing you my face.
00:35:14.71\00:35:16.44
Okay, so you are saying...
00:35:16.48\00:35:18.41
I have a couple
of few questions.
00:35:18.45\00:35:21.75
When you presented this idea,
00:35:21.78\00:35:25.92
somebody in the Seventh-day
Adventist Church leadership
00:35:25.95\00:35:29.82
advised you not to include
00:35:29.86\00:35:31.23
the name of the
Seventh-day Adventist Church,
00:35:31.26\00:35:32.63
is that correct?
00:35:32.66\00:35:34.00
Because in Cuba you
have the Cuban union
00:35:34.03\00:35:36.77
of the
Seventh-day Adventist Church
00:35:36.80\00:35:38.13
and it has some conferences.
00:35:38.17\00:35:40.54
What was their view on
this idea of not putting
00:35:40.57\00:35:43.10
the name of the
church in the proposal?
00:35:43.14\00:35:45.11
What did they say?
00:35:45.14\00:35:46.47
Okay.
00:35:46.51\00:35:47.84
Right now, we are in the process
00:35:47.88\00:35:50.25
to do it what we are doing.
00:35:50.28\00:35:52.38
So it is a fine line
00:35:52.41\00:35:57.32
we can express some information.
00:35:57.39\00:36:00.99
Not because it's have
a problem in information
00:36:01.02\00:36:04.96
but we have to be
careful what we say, right?
00:36:04.99\00:36:08.03
So I approach to the president,
00:36:08.06\00:36:12.43
the pastor
president in the Cuban union.
00:36:12.47\00:36:15.24
And after
advice of other pastor,
00:36:15.27\00:36:18.61
they recommend we do,
00:36:18.64\00:36:22.31
I do for
International Children Fund.
00:36:22.34\00:36:24.98
International Children's Fund.
00:36:25.01\00:36:26.35
So this is the letter head
00:36:26.38\00:36:28.18
and this is the
idea and the concept.
00:36:28.22\00:36:30.29
So the
Seventh-day Adventist Church
00:36:30.32\00:36:32.15
can participate but
not necessary with the name
00:36:32.19\00:36:35.32
but what program
and things like that.
00:36:35.36\00:36:37.13
Exactly.
00:36:37.16\00:36:38.49
Now a question.
00:36:38.53\00:36:41.03
Can 3ABN
00:36:41.06\00:36:42.73
provide programming
00:36:42.76\00:36:44.40
for the memory
that you give to people,
00:36:44.43\00:36:50.94
3ABN can participate this way.
00:36:50.97\00:36:52.57
Is that correct?
00:36:52.61\00:36:53.98
Yes.
00:36:54.01\00:36:55.34
You remember
pastor when we visited...
00:36:55.38\00:36:56.71
I'm asking because I know.
00:36:56.75\00:36:58.78
You remember we visit Cuba.
00:36:58.81\00:37:00.35
And we in the very beginning,
00:37:00.42\00:37:03.39
was wise where the Lord use us
00:37:03.42\00:37:06.19
and represent several
programs, different programs.
00:37:06.22\00:37:09.89
And I think it past a few years
00:37:09.92\00:37:12.53
in order to receive the
answer from the Almighty.
00:37:12.56\00:37:16.30
And now they saw this program
00:37:16.33\00:37:18.67
so when I make the letter
00:37:18.70\00:37:20.74
to the president
and they answered.
00:37:20.77\00:37:26.24
And the president
that rule the institution.
00:37:26.27\00:37:29.94
The president of?
00:37:29.98\00:37:31.31
Of the Cuba.
00:37:31.35\00:37:32.68
The actual president of Cuba.
00:37:32.71\00:37:34.05
The president of
the country of Cuba.
00:37:34.12\00:37:35.45
That's correct. Okay.
00:37:35.48\00:37:36.82
Of course through the
channels is as religious
00:37:36.85\00:37:40.46
so he answered to me with
a letter of authorization.
00:37:40.49\00:37:46.70
And one of the paragraph
saying Chaplain Hernandez,
00:37:46.73\00:37:52.37
if you have the opportunity
to bring us a program structure
00:37:52.40\00:37:57.81
and he mentioned
music, he mentioned family,
00:37:57.84\00:38:00.98
he mentioned religious
00:38:01.01\00:38:02.41
so he's saying they are the only
00:38:02.44\00:38:04.25
because they are good programs.
00:38:04.28\00:38:06.51
So they aren't
looking all their programs.
00:38:06.55\00:38:08.48
They are looking for 3ABN
00:38:08.52\00:38:09.95
because this is
examples we bring before.
00:38:09.98\00:38:12.72
Now, I'm gonna give a
little background to this
00:38:12.75\00:38:16.59
because 3ABN several
years ago, I personally took,
00:38:16.62\00:38:21.03
Pastor Hernell,
00:38:21.06\00:38:22.40
I don't know where
you were at that time
00:38:22.43\00:38:23.97
but about five to
six years ago maybe,
00:38:24.00\00:38:27.54
I took some DVD's of
our 3ABN programming,
00:38:27.57\00:38:31.34
Spanish 3ABN
programming to the union
00:38:31.37\00:38:35.14
because we received
some donations and we heard
00:38:35.18\00:38:38.38
that the churches
have DVD players and TV's
00:38:38.41\00:38:41.98
and the university
00:38:42.02\00:38:43.39
of the
Seventh-day Adventist Church
00:38:43.42\00:38:44.75
had the
possibility of making copies
00:38:44.79\00:38:48.72
so that the
copies they made can go
00:38:48.76\00:38:51.99
to the different
churches and groups.
00:38:52.03\00:38:54.00
So we took a good sample
of some of the programming
00:38:54.03\00:38:57.37
of our five to six years ago.
00:38:57.40\00:38:59.60
Now you are
referring to something we did
00:38:59.63\00:39:01.40
about three years ago.
00:39:01.44\00:39:03.17
Pastor Hernell and I went.
00:39:03.20\00:39:05.74
This time the samples of
our programs were not taken
00:39:05.77\00:39:09.98
to the
Seventh-day Adventist Church,
00:39:10.05\00:39:11.58
they were taken to
the Cuban government.
00:39:11.61\00:39:14.22
That's correct.
00:39:14.25\00:39:15.58
Marriage seminars,
00:39:15.62\00:39:16.95
health programs and
drug prevention programs
00:39:16.99\00:39:19.99
of the 3ABN Latino has.
00:39:20.06\00:39:22.26
And we took that
and you share that
00:39:22.29\00:39:23.73
with the Cuban government.
00:39:23.76\00:39:25.09
Of course.
00:39:25.13\00:39:26.46
And then they
looked this stuff over.
00:39:26.49\00:39:27.83
They looked at this
over and they decided
00:39:27.86\00:39:30.10
that they want
some more of this,
00:39:30.17\00:39:31.80
they want some more programs.
00:39:31.83\00:39:33.17
It is correct.
00:39:33.20\00:39:34.54
So now, the
answer of my proposal
00:39:34.57\00:39:39.24
was give me the opportunity
00:39:39.27\00:39:41.78
to have a studio,
television studio.
00:39:41.81\00:39:44.81
We want to do this and this.
00:39:44.85\00:39:46.18
So... In Cuba?
00:39:46.21\00:39:47.55
A television studio in Cuba?
00:39:47.62\00:39:48.95
In Cuba, of course.
00:39:48.98\00:39:50.69
He said, well I have a paper,
00:39:50.72\00:39:55.39
a contract with them saying
00:39:55.42\00:39:58.16
anything what
you want to broadcast
00:39:58.19\00:40:01.66
through the network.
00:40:01.70\00:40:04.07
The network
what Pedro mentioned,
00:40:04.10\00:40:06.50
you know, passed to us.
00:40:06.53\00:40:08.87
So we need to
see what you select,
00:40:08.90\00:40:13.58
we want to see, we have,
we signed that and we release.
00:40:13.61\00:40:17.75
And you can do it.
00:40:17.78\00:40:19.11
Okay.
00:40:19.15\00:40:20.52
It is not like a...
00:40:20.55\00:40:21.88
I want to do whatever I...
00:40:21.92\00:40:23.25
No, no.
00:40:23.28\00:40:24.62
And it is...
00:40:24.65\00:40:25.99
It's on legal implications.
00:40:26.02\00:40:27.72
So I have to be right with them.
00:40:27.76\00:40:30.63
So I said well, we
have a several TV station,
00:40:30.66\00:40:35.70
Christian television station
00:40:35.73\00:40:37.57
include Adventist
and non-Adventist.
00:40:37.60\00:40:39.40
Right.
00:40:39.43\00:40:40.77
Do you think they are welcome?
00:40:40.84\00:40:42.17
All of them?
00:40:42.20\00:40:43.54
But the rule for now it is a...
00:40:43.57\00:40:44.91
You have to
show me the programs.
00:40:44.94\00:40:47.08
And they want some edit
teams such as put some kind of,
00:40:47.11\00:40:52.51
we can call "commercials,"
00:40:52.55\00:40:54.22
but it's not
appropriate before Cuba.
00:40:54.25\00:40:56.99
I mean they said,
00:40:57.02\00:40:58.35
let me put some advertisings
00:40:58.39\00:41:00.06
in order to keep
the city cleanse,
00:41:00.09\00:41:03.43
you know, don't drop garbage,
00:41:03.46\00:41:04.96
pick it up so
that's kind of announcement
00:41:04.99\00:41:08.16
we can do at beginning,
00:41:08.20\00:41:09.96
of the end of each
program of week one two.
00:41:10.00\00:41:13.64
Now this is the
Cuban government saying
00:41:13.67\00:41:16.34
they would like to
put the announcements
00:41:16.37\00:41:19.51
in the beginning or the
end, and in between programs.
00:41:19.54\00:41:22.11
Exactly.
00:41:22.14\00:41:23.48
About keeping the city clean,
00:41:23.55\00:41:25.88
keeping water safe and
all these type of things.
00:41:25.91\00:41:29.35
You're saying
are they political?
00:41:29.38\00:41:30.89
No. No political?
00:41:30.92\00:41:32.25
No, this is one of my proposal.
00:41:32.29\00:41:34.82
I said, "I don't
want to be involved
00:41:34.86\00:41:37.03
or manipulate in
political issues.
00:41:37.06\00:41:40.00
Not at all."
00:41:40.03\00:41:41.36
Not at all, okay.
00:41:41.40\00:41:42.73
So it is by writing.
00:41:42.76\00:41:44.60
You're being
clear to our viewers
00:41:44.63\00:41:46.94
about what is happening here.
00:41:46.97\00:41:49.87
It is correct.
00:41:49.90\00:41:51.74
And that is why we
were advised not to use
00:41:51.77\00:41:55.21
the Seventh-day
Adventist because the government
00:41:55.24\00:41:58.85
if they give us
that opportunity,
00:41:58.88\00:42:01.15
then they have to
give the same opportunity
00:42:01.18\00:42:03.32
to all the other
church's denominations
00:42:03.39\00:42:05.89
and they will
want to prevent that.
00:42:05.92\00:42:08.26
So in this way,
00:42:08.29\00:42:10.23
we are welcome also
all their denominations
00:42:10.26\00:42:15.03
but on their own
supervision so, yes,
00:42:15.06\00:42:18.40
it is a
Seventh-day Adventist Church
00:42:18.43\00:42:19.77
who's going to be
running the TV station,
00:42:19.80\00:42:24.04
but not under the name
of Seventh-day Adventist.
00:42:24.11\00:42:26.98
That's how we have to work
in order to be accomplished
00:42:27.01\00:42:31.45
with the rules and
regulations of that country has.
00:42:31.48\00:42:34.75
And be free of
any political issue.
00:42:34.78\00:42:39.65
I understand based
on prior conversations
00:42:39.69\00:42:42.29
because 3ABN,
00:42:42.32\00:42:43.93
we've tried to go in there with,
00:42:43.96\00:42:45.93
trying to get a
frequency to get on the air.
00:42:45.96\00:42:49.23
I understand that
the Cuban government
00:42:49.26\00:42:50.87
is not prepared
to give a TV license,
00:42:50.90\00:42:55.84
a TV channel to any
religious denomination,
00:42:55.87\00:43:01.81
specifically, or to
any particular church.
00:43:01.84\00:43:05.88
They are more open to the idea
of having a television channel
00:43:05.91\00:43:08.88
where different religious groups
00:43:08.92\00:43:10.49
can put on their programming.
00:43:10.52\00:43:12.22
Now, part of the proposal,
00:43:12.25\00:43:15.79
I understand that you presented
to the council of churches
00:43:15.82\00:43:19.56
that they have there is that
00:43:19.59\00:43:21.60
from sunset Friday
to sunset Saturday,
00:43:21.63\00:43:25.50
all of that time
00:43:25.53\00:43:26.87
is for Seventh-day
Adventist programming.
00:43:26.94\00:43:28.27
Is that correct?
00:43:28.30\00:43:29.64
Yeah.
00:43:29.67\00:43:31.01
We make a proposal
saying if we put one channel,
00:43:31.04\00:43:34.64
we want to divide time,
00:43:34.68\00:43:37.18
in order to give
opportunity to all the religious
00:43:37.25\00:43:38.91
but please give it to us
the chance to from Saturday,
00:43:38.95\00:43:42.75
a Friday night to Saturday
use for Seventh-day Adventist.
00:43:42.78\00:43:47.06
This particular
question, they don't answer.
00:43:47.09\00:43:50.93
They said, give it to us,
00:43:50.96\00:43:53.80
programs such as
3ABN give it to me
00:43:53.83\00:43:56.40
and we're going to put
in our official channel.
00:43:56.43\00:44:00.44
Okay, the
broadcasting in the regular
00:44:00.47\00:44:02.97
two channels or service.
00:44:03.00\00:44:04.61
This is what they intend to
do with this but beside that,
00:44:04.64\00:44:09.54
I saw the big opportunity, why?
00:44:09.58\00:44:13.05
Because sometimes
because the economic situation,
00:44:13.08\00:44:17.09
one tower in Oriente or
any province falling down
00:44:17.12\00:44:22.42
because he reckoned or whatever.
00:44:22.46\00:44:24.93
They don't fix it.
00:44:24.96\00:44:26.29
So this region
doesn't have access
00:44:26.33\00:44:28.03
to their regular television.
00:44:28.06\00:44:29.56
But now the network
they create it, okay.
00:44:29.60\00:44:34.84
It is a little bit complicated
to explain, but it's simple.
00:44:34.87\00:44:39.34
In every corner
of any community,
00:44:39.37\00:44:42.94
you get somebody who receive
they call it the package.
00:44:42.98\00:44:47.32
So where they
receive a secular...
00:44:47.35\00:44:49.28
The television package.
00:44:49.32\00:44:50.69
Exactly.
00:44:50.72\00:44:52.05
So now, they authorize us.
00:44:52.09\00:44:54.32
To have a religious package.
00:44:54.36\00:44:55.72
Truly and we are the only ones.
00:44:55.76\00:44:58.13
Okay.
00:44:58.16\00:44:59.49
We are the first one and
the Seventh-day Adventist
00:44:59.53\00:45:02.93
under the umbrella of
ICRF has this opportunity.
00:45:02.96\00:45:06.74
So now we can develop,
00:45:06.77\00:45:09.07
you know, or
introduce any channel,
00:45:09.10\00:45:11.67
any program from
3ABN, any program from...
00:45:11.71\00:45:15.14
Hope Channel.
00:45:15.18\00:45:16.51
Any program from
Hope Channel, anyone's.
00:45:16.54\00:45:19.15
So it is the opportunity
where the Lord opened.
00:45:19.18\00:45:22.35
So let me see if I
understand this right
00:45:22.38\00:45:23.79
and perhaps you can
correct me if I'm wrong,
00:45:23.82\00:45:26.29
there are really
three opportunities.
00:45:26.32\00:45:29.46
Opportunity number
one is the package.
00:45:29.49\00:45:31.79
That is available in the corner,
00:45:31.83\00:45:33.19
people can buy this
and you're selling this
00:45:33.23\00:45:35.93
or you giving
this away the package,
00:45:35.96\00:45:38.67
people that want the
programming in the corner
00:45:38.70\00:45:40.54
in the USB memory?
00:45:40.57\00:45:42.34
Yeah.
00:45:42.37\00:45:44.01
That is why the
people have access.
00:45:44.04\00:45:45.67
We don't sell it.
00:45:45.71\00:45:47.08
You don't sell it?
No, no, we don't sell it.
00:45:47.11\00:45:48.44
We put it in the system.
00:45:48.48\00:45:49.98
You put in the system?
00:45:50.05\00:45:51.38
In the system and somebody
go to visit every province
00:45:51.41\00:45:55.38
and every province
go on to the municipals.
00:45:55.42\00:45:58.42
Municipalities, communities.
00:45:58.45\00:46:00.86
Exactly and now at the
end, in every four blocks,
00:46:00.89\00:46:04.36
you can found somebody.
00:46:04.39\00:46:05.73
Somebody that is
making this available.
00:46:05.76\00:46:07.43
For a couple of pesos.
00:46:07.50\00:46:09.26
Couple of Cuban pesos.
00:46:09.30\00:46:10.67
Okay.
00:46:10.70\00:46:12.03
So that's
opportunity number one.
00:46:12.07\00:46:13.40
Opportunity number two
00:46:13.44\00:46:14.77
is that the Cuban
government has said
00:46:14.80\00:46:17.31
they want some of the program,
00:46:17.34\00:46:18.67
they want the
programming that 3ABN has,
00:46:18.71\00:46:21.41
health programs,
00:46:21.44\00:46:22.78
marriage programs
that promote good values.
00:46:22.81\00:46:25.11
Yes.
00:46:25.15\00:46:26.48
You're not ready for
religious programming yet
00:46:26.51\00:46:28.02
because we're talking about
the two nationwide TV channels
00:46:28.05\00:46:32.22
that the government
puts programming on.
00:46:32.25\00:46:33.96
Correct.
00:46:33.99\00:46:35.32
Of course they
have to look at it first
00:46:35.36\00:46:36.93
before they put it on the air.
00:46:36.96\00:46:38.89
But this is
opportunity number two.
00:46:38.93\00:46:40.90
Number two, okay.
00:46:40.93\00:46:42.26
Opportunity number
three is a television channel
00:46:42.30\00:46:45.77
that they are in the
process of authorization.
00:46:45.80\00:46:50.51
What is the process?
00:46:50.54\00:46:52.07
Okay, let me say...
00:46:52.11\00:46:56.18
Well, you have
the studio as well.
00:46:56.21\00:46:57.55
They've given you permission,
that's opportunity number four,
00:46:57.58\00:47:01.28
to have a TV studio in Cuba.
00:47:01.32\00:47:04.45
I think you talked once
about two TV studios in Cuba.
00:47:04.49\00:47:07.16
But anyway, TV studio in Cuba
00:47:07.19\00:47:09.09
to produce
programs also in Cuba.
00:47:09.12\00:47:11.16
Correct.
00:47:11.19\00:47:12.53
Answer to first question is...
00:47:12.56\00:47:13.90
When they give it to me
00:47:17.83\00:47:21.44
by writing the
official authorization,
00:47:21.47\00:47:25.24
we receive some
instruction verbally.
00:47:25.27\00:47:28.74
Okay. Okay.
00:47:28.78\00:47:30.25
So the observation is
00:47:30.28\00:47:33.08
they're going to
see how work the...
00:47:33.11\00:47:38.85
The other
opportunities. Exactly.
00:47:38.89\00:47:40.76
Even our behavior.
00:47:40.79\00:47:42.62
Okay. Okay.
00:47:42.66\00:47:44.43
Let me see how you run
in this news activities
00:47:44.46\00:47:49.63
really is going
through the package,
00:47:49.66\00:47:52.17
you know, the network package.
00:47:52.20\00:47:53.57
So Hernell, be patient
so we're going to consider.
00:47:53.64\00:47:58.27
So I understood.
00:47:58.31\00:48:00.38
So what we believe but...
00:48:00.41\00:48:01.74
Okay.
00:48:01.78\00:48:03.11
Because of time, I'm
going to see if I summarize
00:48:03.14\00:48:04.55
some of this
because I understand.
00:48:04.58\00:48:07.32
Now the Cuban government
00:48:07.35\00:48:09.12
is still very
cautious about this.
00:48:09.15\00:48:10.82
Correct.
00:48:10.89\00:48:12.22
Therefore, they wanna see
00:48:12.25\00:48:13.96
what you do with
the other opportunities.
00:48:13.99\00:48:15.69
Opportunity one,
with the package.
00:48:15.72\00:48:18.06
Opportunity two, with
the television programs
00:48:18.09\00:48:20.10
they're gonna put
on the two TV stations
00:48:20.13\00:48:21.73
that are national wide.
00:48:21.76\00:48:23.87
And opportunity
three, this studio,
00:48:23.90\00:48:26.94
they wanna see what you do first
00:48:26.97\00:48:28.30
before they approve the channel,
00:48:28.34\00:48:31.71
what will be the third channel,
00:48:31.74\00:48:33.14
that will be a religious channel
00:48:33.17\00:48:34.51
to reach all of Cuba.
00:48:34.54\00:48:35.88
Okay. Exactly.
00:48:35.91\00:48:37.25
Okay, now we're ready.
00:48:37.28\00:48:38.61
I don't know if you
wanna share something else
00:48:38.65\00:48:40.02
before I ask you this question.
00:48:40.05\00:48:41.38
Well, when we
saw the hand of God
00:48:41.42\00:48:47.69
making this significant change.
00:48:47.72\00:48:51.03
Yes.
00:48:51.06\00:48:52.39
And don't coming for us.
00:48:52.43\00:48:53.80
Right.
00:48:53.83\00:48:55.16
Coming from them.
00:48:55.20\00:48:57.80
I see the hand of God.
00:48:57.83\00:48:59.70
It is not normal.
00:48:59.73\00:49:01.07
It is not the
regular way what human do.
00:49:01.10\00:49:04.11
Yes.
00:49:04.14\00:49:05.47
We follow religious policy.
00:49:05.51\00:49:07.88
I don't say despite.
00:49:07.91\00:49:09.41
But in this particular say,
00:49:09.44\00:49:11.05
the Lord don't
use religious policy
00:49:11.08\00:49:15.55
in order to go access through.
00:49:15.58\00:49:17.59
Even traditional methods.
00:49:17.62\00:49:20.56
Well let me see,
let's pray for someone go...
00:49:20.59\00:49:24.76
No, no, no.
00:49:24.79\00:49:26.13
It's something coming
from them in a way I said,
00:49:26.16\00:49:28.70
I don't expect to answer.
00:49:28.73\00:49:31.53
This guy what he asked
me for when I said give it
00:49:31.57\00:49:35.87
the opportunity
to get a television.
00:49:35.90\00:49:37.51
So now the challenge,
00:49:37.54\00:49:39.67
Pastor Dinzey, is
raising the funds.
00:49:39.71\00:49:45.51
Okay, that was my question.
00:49:45.55\00:49:47.22
We have two minutes.
00:49:47.25\00:49:48.58
We need to know
what are the needs,
00:49:48.62\00:49:50.02
immediate needs
and long term needs
00:49:50.09\00:49:52.52
to make all this happen?
00:49:52.55\00:49:54.16
What are the
needs that you have?
00:49:54.19\00:49:57.33
I know you have to put a
studio together actually,
00:49:57.36\00:50:00.20
we have a picture.
00:50:00.23\00:50:01.56
Are you ready for picture?
00:50:01.60\00:50:02.93
Yes. Okay.
00:50:02.96\00:50:04.30
Now what is this that
we're looking at here?
00:50:04.33\00:50:05.67
Okay, this is a
facility belong to the property,
00:50:05.70\00:50:08.54
it belong to the Seventh-day
Adventist Church in CamagA
00:50:08.57\00:50:11.47
Quey. Okay.
00:50:11.51\00:50:12.84
In the bottom, they
have the first day care,
00:50:12.87\00:50:15.61
this is another miracle that...
00:50:15.64\00:50:16.98
Children's day care.
00:50:17.05\00:50:18.38
Children day care.
00:50:18.41\00:50:19.75
Okay.
00:50:19.78\00:50:21.12
So we intend to
build On the second level?
00:50:21.15\00:50:22.48
On the second level.
00:50:22.52\00:50:24.45
For the studio?
00:50:24.49\00:50:25.82
For the studio.
00:50:25.85\00:50:27.19
So it is one of the issues.
00:50:27.26\00:50:29.09
I talked to the
government, well,
00:50:29.12\00:50:30.53
we have the intention to build,
but it is hard to found a nail.
00:50:30.56\00:50:36.26
A nail?
00:50:36.30\00:50:37.63
When you have a
nail, you need a hammer.
00:50:37.67\00:50:39.20
And when you have the
block, you don't have cement.
00:50:39.23\00:50:41.77
So in a funny way
and I say no, no, no.
00:50:41.80\00:50:44.54
It is okay.
00:50:44.57\00:50:45.91
It's because they
blocked, of course.
00:50:45.94\00:50:47.31
They're going to...
00:50:47.38\00:50:48.71
The embargo.
00:50:48.74\00:50:51.41
So I said, I need...
00:50:51.45\00:50:52.95
How you can help me?
00:50:52.98\00:50:54.52
And we receive,
00:50:54.55\00:50:55.88
we already have the
permission to export
00:50:55.92\00:50:58.22
from Home Depo
all the materials,
00:50:58.25\00:51:00.86
in order to go to
Cuba and build that.
00:51:00.89\00:51:03.29
Okay, so you have permission
from the US government...
00:51:03.32\00:51:05.69
Correct.
00:51:05.73\00:51:07.10
To bring all the
building materials
00:51:07.13\00:51:09.73
you need into Cuba to
put the studio together?
00:51:09.76\00:51:12.40
Correct. Okay, this is one need.
00:51:12.43\00:51:13.87
How much money is needed for it?
00:51:13.94\00:51:15.84
Well in the
internet, we make a some...
00:51:15.87\00:51:19.91
You have 30 seconds to tell me.
00:51:19.94\00:51:21.28
Yeah, yeah, I don't
remember the amount but...
00:51:21.31\00:51:23.85
The amount,
several thousand dollars.
00:51:23.88\00:51:26.08
Several thousand
dollars. From 30,000-50,000.
00:51:26.11\00:51:27.85
And the
information is in the website.
00:51:27.88\00:51:31.62
So you have other needs to
make the other things happen,
00:51:31.65\00:51:33.79
the package you
have, you need computers,
00:51:33.86\00:51:36.56
you need things like that.
00:51:36.59\00:51:37.93
We're gonna have to
ask you some more questions
00:51:37.96\00:51:40.30
after we have our news
break, we have a news break,
00:51:40.33\00:51:42.73
and then we're coming back.
00:51:42.76\00:51:44.10
We have some
final moments with them
00:51:44.17\00:51:46.20
and then we'll
return for great news.
00:51:46.23\00:51:49.04
God has been using
non-traditional methods
00:51:52.14\00:51:54.58
to show His power in Cuba
00:51:54.61\00:51:56.51
and the results
have been extraordinary.
00:51:56.54\00:51:58.78
Now the Cuban
government is authorized
00:51:58.81\00:52:00.82
International
Children's Relief Fund
00:52:00.85\00:52:03.22
to build a television studio
to prepare Christian programs
00:52:03.25\00:52:06.45
to be broadcast in that country.
00:52:06.49\00:52:08.72
If you like to
support this project,
00:52:08.76\00:52:10.73
visit their website ICRFInc.org.
00:52:10.76\00:52:15.96
That's ICRFInc.org.
00:52:16.00\00:52:19.90
You can call them
at (260) 615-6065.
00:52:19.93\00:52:24.97
You can also write to them
00:52:25.01\00:52:26.34
at International
Children's Relief Fund,
00:52:26.37\00:52:28.68
9612, Dayton Pike,
Soddy-Daisy, Tennessee 37379.
00:52:28.71\00:52:34.32