I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Removing pain
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Lord, let my words
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Heal a heart that hurts
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life.
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Mending broken people
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Hello, and welcome
once again to 3ABN Today.
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This particular
program is a biblical study.
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It's going to be
a three way study.
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And let me quickly
introduce our special guests
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because there's no use
keeping you guys a secret.
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We have the
brother's Day with us.
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That's right. Ryan
Day and Dakota Day.
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Thank you so much
for being minuteman.
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We didn't know
we're gonna be doing this
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to the last second.
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Yes.
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But, Ryan, you are the Assistant
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to the General Manager
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of the Proclaim, not Proclaim...
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The Praise Him Music Network.
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Praise Him
Music Network at 3ABN.
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Right.
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So I assist Tim Parton,
who is our General Manager
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of the new 3ABN
Praise Him Music Network.
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And I kind of
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wear multiple hats here as well,
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as we all do, as
the Lord calls upon us.
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We're here for Bible
programs and music programs
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and anything the
Lord calls us to do.
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Well, you know,
you're very blessed.
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The Lord has gifted Ryan.
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He was an evangelist
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for Amazing
Facts for five years.
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He's a great Bible teacher.
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I'm sure you've seen him
on the Sabbath School panel
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and a wonderful singer.
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So you are a
well grounded person.
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And we're not lifting
you, we're lifting up the Lord.
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To God be the glory.
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Amen. Amen.
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And then your
younger brother, Dakota.
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Dakota, you also are an
Amazing Facts evangelist now
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for three years?
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Yeah, three years. Three years.
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Yes.
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And so you and your wife
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are really on the
road almost constantly.
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Yeah, we do about eight
to nine meetings a year,
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proclaiming the
everlasting gospel
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of the Three Angels' Messages.
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Yeah. Praise God.
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Well, we're so glad
that you were here visiting
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and you can join us today.
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You know, what we
want to talk about today
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is the personhood
of the Holy Spirit.
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In John 4:24, Jesus said,
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"God is spirit and
those who worship Him
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must worship in
spirit and in truth."
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Well, when we start
talking about the nature of God,
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particularly the
triune nature of God,
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things...
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We have to stick to scripture
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because we are walking
on holy ground, are we not?
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Of course, absolutely.
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Let me share
something with you guys.
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None of us were reared
in the Adventist Church.
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So we've got a
similar background.
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Right.
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The reason I am a
Seventh-day Adventist Christian,
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is because I
believe this church,
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this movement teach us
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more Bible
truths than any other.
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If I found
someone who taught more,
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I would join that church.
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That's right. Amen.
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But what I so
admire is that the pioneers
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of the
Seventh-day Adventist Church
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came from all these
different denominations.
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They came in and they had
their perspectives on scripture
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and their interpretation.
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But you know what they did,
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they got
together and they studied.
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They laid it everything aside,
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often their
study was corrective.
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I mean, you know, over
the years, you see how...
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As I studied out various things,
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they had to let go
of some of the things
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they had believed.
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And we believe as a church
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that the Bible is infallible,
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and that it alone
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is how we should
prove our doctrine.
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Sola Scriptura, right?
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That's right. Amen.
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So let's look...
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We wanted to look at
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a couple of our
fundamental beliefs.
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Absolutely.
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Because I think that
gives us a good launching pad
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for this program.
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Our first fundamental belief
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is that the holy scriptures
are the authoritative,
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infallible
revelation of God's will
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and the definitive
revealer of doctrines.
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In other words,
everything we believe
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is based only on Scripture.
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And if you can't
have, "Thus saith the Lord,"
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doesn't matter who says it,
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it's got to be
based on Scripture.
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Our second belief
is in the Trinity,
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that there is one God,
Father, Son, and Holy Spirit,
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a unity of three
coeternal persons.
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Right. So you know
what that makes us?
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Monotheistic Trinitarians.
That's right. yeah.
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Doesn't it? And...
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Not a belief in three
Gods but a belief in one God
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that consist of
three, as you just said,
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coeternal persons.
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Yes. So one being three persons.
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And, you know, people...
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I was trying to
explain to a Muslim.
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She kept saying, how
can Father, Son and Spirit,
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one plus one,
plus one equals three.
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How can you say that
there's only one God?
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Right.
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And you know
what the Lord gave me?
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And it was just an epiphany.
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We've been using
the wrong equation.
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It's not one plus one
plus one, it's one times one,
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times one, equals one.
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One cube.
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And you'll find that
God's presence is in the cube.
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When you look
at the sanctuary...
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What was the shape
of the holy of holies?
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That's right.
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Perfect cube, 15 by 15, by 15.
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When you look at
what's the New Jerusalem,
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the length, width,
the height, perfect cube.
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So God's
presence is in the cube.
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Let's look at...
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Now let me ask you, is
Trinity found in the Bible?
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No.
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The word Trinity is
not found in the Bible,
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but the concept is.
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So I just want to
touch on that for a moment
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because again, there
may be some viewers at home
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that says, you know
what, I don't like that word.
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And that's a
personal preference,
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because we recognize that,
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while the word Trinity
is not found in Scripture.
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Historically, the
church applied that word
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to describe the concept
that we find in Scripture,
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which is basically a
Tri-unity, a unity of,
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as we said, three persons.
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And so while our God is one God,
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our God consist of
three unified individuals,
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which is where you get
the word Trinity, Tri-unity.
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While I don't personally use
the word Trinity all the time,
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sometimes I'll
use it to communicate
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the concept of the unity
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of these three
coeternal persons.
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But, you know,
there's many different words
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that we used to
describe our Christian walk
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or our Christian terminology
that's not found in the Bible.
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For instance, millennium.
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The word millennium is
not found in Scripture,
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but the concept of
millennium is there.
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Incarnation is not
found in Scripture.
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Incarnation is not found there.
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And so many, many words,
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but Trinity is not
necessarily an evil word.
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Some people
associate it with Catholicism,
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and the concept
is definitely there.
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So we use that
word that term Trinity.
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We're talking about a Tri-unity
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of the three unified
beings that make up our one God.
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You know, and I
want to point that out
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since you
mentioned about Catholicism.
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Sure.
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We do not believe the same
as the Catholic Church teaches
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an eternal generation
of the Son and the Spirit,
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that they are
eternally emanating
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from the Father.
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We do not believe that,
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we believe in
three coequal persons
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that have the same past,
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not that the
Father has generated
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the Spirit or the Son.
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And one of the reasons I
think that we can trust this,
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there are 58 triadic
scriptures that talk about
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the Father, Son and the Sprit.
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So, you know, I
recently, recently,
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a couple of years ago, I did...
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I've got a 300 page
study on the Holy Spirit.
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Oh, wow, better.
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Because I think
it's good to go back
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and check out what you
believe from now and then.
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Sure. All right.
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Let's look then
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at fundamental
belief number three
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is about the Father,
four is about the Son.
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Would you please read, Ryan,
Fundamental Belief Number 5?
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Number 5.
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So dealing with the Holy Spirit.
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Fundamental
Belief Number 5 says,
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"God, the
eternal spirit was active
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with the Father and
the Son in creation,
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incarnation and redemption.
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He is as much a person
as the Father and the Son.
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He inspired the
writers of Scripture.
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He filled
Christ's life with power.
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He draws and
convicts human beings
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and those who respond,
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He renews and transforms
into the image of God.
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Sent by the Father
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and the Son to be
always with His children.
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He extends spiritual gifts
to the church, empowers it,
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that is the church,
to bear witness to Christ
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and in harmony with
the scriptures leads it,
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that is the
church, into all truth."
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Amen and amen. Absolutely.
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So when we look in the Greek,
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the word for person is Prosopon.
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And it is translated as person,
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presence, face, countenance.
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It is used to the
Father, the Son and the Spirit.
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And this is...
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This simply means...
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It doesn't mean that, you know,
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sometimes when you say
person, people think, well,
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it's got to be human being.
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No, it's a living
entity who is endowed
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with personal properties
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of understanding
will and emotion.
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So we want to see then
what the scriptures say
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about the Holy Spirit.
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Some people believe
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He's just a mere
emanating influence,
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a power that's coming from God.
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Some people believe
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He is the
person of Jesus Christ.
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But let's look at
what the scriptures say.
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And one thing
else I want to say is,
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the Bible is not
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a systematic theology textbook.
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What it is,
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is a progressive
self-revelation of God.
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So we find in the Old Testament,
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the idea of the
advent of Christ.
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It is more fully
developed in the New Testament.
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We find in the Old Testament,
the advent of the Holy Spirit,
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which is more fully
developed in the New Testament,
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particularly Jesus in
John Chapters 14 through 16.
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Boy, that's rich
study on the spirit,
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as is the Book of Acts.
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Absolutely.
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So, Dakota, why
don't we start with you
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because what we
first want to show is that
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the Holy Spirit
is a distinct person
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from Jesus Christ.
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Let's read John
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14:16.
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John 14:16. All right.
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And I just want to point out
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as he's preparing
to get that scripture.
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We're going to
attempt to clarify
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what the Bible
says about this subject.
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And I can't
emphasize that enough.
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But what we cannot do,
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as we are counseled very clearly
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is understand the
nature of the Holy Spirit.
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Amen.
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It is a mystery
in and of itself.
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And there's so much
complexity to the Godhead.
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In fact, the
Godhead is so complex.
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It's about one
of the most complex,
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if not the most complex
topic in all of Scripture,
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trying to
understand the nature of God
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is beyond our understanding.
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But what we can understand
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is what is revealed to
us through the Word of God.
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And so that is the
point of this study.
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And I'm very glad
to be a part of it,
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because I believe God is
not the author of confusion.
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And He wants us to
understand who He is,
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but there are
elements to His nature
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that we simply
don't fully understand.
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It has not been
revealed to us yet.
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Incomprehensive. Absolutely.
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I heard it once said,
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if you can
understand everything about God,
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He wouldn't be
God. There you go.
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That's good. Amen.
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That's a good one. It's good.
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So John 14:16.
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"And I will pray the Father,
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and He shall give
you another comforter,
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that he may abide
with you forever."
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All right. So let's
hit this in the Greek.
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Yes. Okay.
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Another
comforter, another helper.
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So in the original
Greek here, if you were to go
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and study it very in depth,
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the words another helper
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in the original
Greek is allos Parakletos,
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that's how we
would pronounce it.
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And it's interesting because
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what the original
actually communicates,
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as I believe it's
clearly communicated here
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in the English.
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I believe it was
properly translated
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that Christ is simply saying
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and it's
interesting in this one text,
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you have three beings present.
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You have the Father, notice,
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Christ and I's,
well, there's the Son
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and I will pray to the Father.
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So there's the
second being, notice.
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And He will give
you another helper.
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Now we know that
Christ is also a comforter.
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Christ is a helper.
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The Messiah was the Paraclete.
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Absolutely. He is a Parakletos.
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But here in the original Greek,
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allos Parakletos is
simply communicating
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that we're not talking
about the one comforter
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that is already present.
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He's saying,
He's going to send you
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a completely
separate distinct person,
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another Parakletos to
come and lead us and guide us
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and abide with us,
as the Scripture says,
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here forever.
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And you know, in Greek,
there's two words for another.
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There's Heteros and Allos.
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Heteros means...
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Let me give you an example.
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If I have a bowl of fruit
and you've eaten an apple,
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and then I pick
up this bowl of fruit
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that has grapes and oranges
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and things that you
want another piece of fruit.
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And you say,
I'll have another but
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you pick an orange
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or it's another
in the same category.
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But allos Parakletos,
allos in the Greek means
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one that is exactly alike.
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So it's like a
clone if you will.
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Right.
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So when Jesus said,
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I will send allos Parakletos...
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Sure.
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I'll pray the
Father had Him send allos.
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He's saying, I'm gonna send...
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I and the Father will
send one who is just like Me.
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Sure.
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One who is identical to Me.
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But we see that
He's definitely...
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As you said,
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Jesus was the
Paraclete in heaven,
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now He's our advocate
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in heaven.
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He was Paraclete on
earth, advocate in heaven.
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You know what,
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this fourth verse
also points out here.
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It says that He may
abide with you forever.
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And that refers to
the Holy Spirit as a He.
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Jesus was speaking of Himself
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or the Father being that
comforter that would come,
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than why would He
reference it as another He.
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And so I think
it's very important
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to point that out
and understand that.
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Absolutely.
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And what is the
word Parakletos mean?
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It means helper or comforter.
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Comforter, helper,
counselor, advocate.
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It is a person.
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The word Parakletos
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is only assigned to a person.
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And when you think about that,
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we're going to get to
a scripture that Paul...
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King James Version
scripture in a moment
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that many people use.
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But Jesus always in
speaking of the Holy Spirit,
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He used the
emphatic personal pronoun
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"He" always.
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Now let me ask you.
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Do you think our
Savior would use language
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that would mislead His apostles?
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Exactly.
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You know, I quoted earlier,
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referenced a scripture
in 1 Corinthians Chapter 14,
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where it says,
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God is not the
author of confusion.
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Yes.
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And I believe
that, that goes as far as
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to communicate that God
is not a God of confusion.
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He doesn't want us to be
confused about who He is,
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while His nature is mysterious.
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And there's so
many elements of that,
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that we don't fully
understand as far as who God is
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and what God is consisted of.
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I think God wants
us to understand that.
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And to me, Shelley, and
I just want to add this,
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not trying to be
facetious or sarcastic.
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But if I were to read this
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just simply having
no prior information
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or understanding
of scripture at all,
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or what others believe,
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or what other types of
interpretation is applied
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to these particular text,
because you can take any text
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and twist it, as
Peter would say that
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people were doing to
Paul's writings to twist it
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to their own destruction.
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But if you were to
just simply take this
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for what it says and
not try to apply some deep,
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personal, theological,
spiritual, symbolic meaning,
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it literally communicates
right there in the text,
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three distinct persons.
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And so when I
read this text here
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and I read what Christ says,
and I will pray to the Father,
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you know, I had to
pause for a moment,
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just to mention,
Dakota and I came
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before we were
Adventists years ago.
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We came out of
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the Oneness
Apostolic Pentecostal movement.
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And there are wonderful people,
loving people in that movement.
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But while we
were in that movement,
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and I was raised up
in that, we were taught
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another completely different,
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very interesting
twisted version of the Godhead.
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It was more of a, what
would be properly called
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an immortalist
perspective of God which is,
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there's one central,
again monotheistic being,
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you know, monotheism, one being
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and this one being is
playing different roles
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in different
dispensations of times.
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For instance,
Christ is the Father,
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Christ is the Son,
Christ is the Holy Spirit.
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And so there's so
many different varieties
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and versions of this
of looking at this topic
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where people
misinterpret or add to
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or take away from
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what the scripture
is actually saying.
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And I think
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it's vitally
important that we...
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In this instance,
especially in John 14,
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the context of this passage,
nowhere in here, does it...
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Is there any type of
symbolic, prophetic, you know,
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symbolism that is
being communicated here.
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The Christ is coming
straight out and saying,
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"Look, I'm gonna
pray to the Father.
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And when I'm gone,
He's gonna send you
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another Parakletos.
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He's gonna send
you another comforter,
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distinctly from Himself,
distinctly from the Father."
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Amen. Very clear.
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We have to be clear too that,
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you know, we have to understand
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what a verse is saying
or what it's not saying.
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Right.
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So many people
read into a verse,
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their own understanding
or their own presuppositions
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or where they may be,
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or what they may
have been raised into.
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And Jesus did not say...
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And I'm gonna pray to the Father
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and I will come to you again.
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That's right. Right?
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And so we have to be careful
not to read into the text.
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Amen. Amen.
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Well, and the
fact that, you know,
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we wouldn't dare accuse
Christ of using something
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that employing
language that would mislead
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His apostles and His disciples.
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He said, I am sending
you another allos Parakletos.
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One, who is just like Me.
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Why was that important
that Jesus sent the Holy Spirit?
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And we're going to see,
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it was Christ and
the Father that are...
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The scripture says,
who sent the spirit.
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But why did Jesus know
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He needed to send another?
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Well, I think it's always...
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I think it's always
important to understand it
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from the perspective of the,
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the very aspect of
scripture communicates to us
00:20:45.77\00:20:49.38
that the Father and
the Son are in heaven.
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Okay, let's just
start there for a moment.
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The Son tells us
to pray to the Father,
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our Father who art in heaven.
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And so, while
God is omnipresent,
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while the Father is omnipresent,
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and the Son is omnipresent,
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they're omnipresent
through the Holy Spirit.
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And so Christ was with
them in person at that time
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as a very
physical, literal comforter.
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But once His physical being
was going to go back to heaven,
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and then the Father
is very physical being.
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Of course, in all of
His glory is in heaven.
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The only way that He
could manifest Himself
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and that we would be comfort,
you know, not comfortless,
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would be to send His leading,
guiding spirit to be with us.
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And so in that
case, I would say that,
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that we have to
understand that while God...
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The entirety of God,
you know, Father, Son,
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and Holy Spirit is omnipresent.
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The scripture does
very much communicate
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that it is
through the Holy Spirit
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that God is omnipresent.
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Amen.
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And it also, you
know, the Holy Spirit
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came to take
Christ's place on earth.
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Did He not to complete the work?
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Because Jesus is
still ministering in heaven
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but He could not be here.
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And that's why He told them,
00:22:02.85\00:22:04.19
"Hey, it's better
for you that I go."
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Because the Holy Spirit
has worked with God's believers
00:22:06.02\00:22:09.46
throughout scripture.
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He was one who
was alongside of them.
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But now, just as Christ,
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God was incarnated...
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Now the Holy
Spirit's incarnated,
00:22:21.87\00:22:23.91
he lives in us, right?
00:22:23.94\00:22:25.51
And Christ was a very
physical representation
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and manifestation
00:22:28.94\00:22:30.55
of the perfect sinless
moral character of God.
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Amen.
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And so while the
disciples and the people
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were able to very physically,
00:22:36.92\00:22:39.02
visually see the beautiful
loving character of God
00:22:39.05\00:22:42.46
on display in the
very physical form.
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When Christ went away,
00:22:45.36\00:22:46.70
how was that
beautiful character of God
00:22:46.73\00:22:49.10
going to be
manifest to His people?
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Through the Holy Spirit. Amen.
00:22:51.00\00:22:52.37
Okay, let's
continue with verse 17.
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You want to pick up 17 and 18?
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Absolutely.
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So we're still in John 14:17-18.
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The Bible says, in this
again, this is Jesus speaking.
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"He says the spirit of truth,"
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again referring
to the Holy Spirit,
00:23:05.71\00:23:08.18
"whom the world cannot receive
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because it neither
sees Him, nor knows Him,
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but you know Him,
for He dwells with you,
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and will be in you."
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And He says, "I will
not leave you orphans,
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I will come to you."
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All right. So, as
you've already said...
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I mean, I think this is where
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people get a
little confused as to
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whether or not the
Holy Spirit is Christ,
00:23:31.44\00:23:34.11
when He says, I
will come to you.
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I believe we're going
to see throughout scripture
00:23:35.91\00:23:39.38
that the presence,
the Father and the Son
00:23:39.41\00:23:42.85
live in our hearts by faith
00:23:42.88\00:23:45.92
through the
presence of the Holy Spirit.
00:23:45.95\00:23:48.32
When the spirit dwells in us,
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then we know
00:23:50.99\00:23:52.36
that the Father and
the Son dwell in us.
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And, you know, we'd look at
00:23:54.73\00:23:56.06
Ephesians Chapter 3 for that.
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I love this scripture.
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Paul says in Ephesians 3:16.
00:24:01.04\00:24:04.67
He's praying that God
would grant you, the Ephesians.
00:24:04.71\00:24:08.78
"According to the riches
00:24:08.81\00:24:10.18
of His glory to be
strengthened with might,
00:24:10.25\00:24:13.82
through His
Spirit in the inner man."
00:24:13.85\00:24:17.29
And He's talking
about strengthened
00:24:17.32\00:24:19.02
with that dynamite power
00:24:19.05\00:24:21.66
through the Holy
Spirit living in us.
00:24:21.69\00:24:25.43
And for what purpose?
00:24:25.46\00:24:26.80
That Christ may dwell in
your hearts through faith.
00:24:26.83\00:24:29.63
Yes. Yes.
00:24:29.66\00:24:31.17
So when this
Holy Spirit is in you,
00:24:31.20\00:24:34.27
because the Father,
the Son, and the Spirit
00:24:34.30\00:24:39.14
are the exact same essence...
00:24:39.17\00:24:42.51
Yes, and character, yeah.
00:24:42.54\00:24:43.88
And character, in nature,
00:24:43.95\00:24:45.91
all of their attributes
then one times, one times
00:24:45.95\00:24:49.05
one equals one.
00:24:49.08\00:24:51.09
That's right. And
they are indivisible.
00:24:51.12\00:24:53.96
One divided by one,
divided by one, equals one.
00:24:53.99\00:24:57.56
You mentioned this
particular text here
00:24:57.63\00:24:59.29
that I just read.
00:24:59.33\00:25:00.70
And we read that
particular portion
00:25:00.73\00:25:02.06
where it says,
00:25:02.10\00:25:03.43
I will send you
the spirit of truth.
00:25:03.47\00:25:04.80
And then at the end of
that particular verse, in 18,
00:25:04.83\00:25:06.43
He says, I will come to you.
00:25:06.47\00:25:08.14
And this is where a
lot of people misinterpret
00:25:08.17\00:25:10.71
and apply their
own personal knowledge
00:25:10.74\00:25:12.57
and saying, see,
00:25:12.61\00:25:13.98
the Christ is
telling them in code
00:25:14.01\00:25:16.68
that I'm gonna send
you another comforter,
00:25:16.75\00:25:18.61
I'm going to
send you the spirit.
00:25:18.65\00:25:20.12
Hint, Hint, I'm
gonna come to you.
00:25:20.15\00:25:22.55
But, you know, it's interesting
00:25:22.58\00:25:23.92
that we have to understand that
00:25:23.99\00:25:25.32
because, I
found this quote here,
00:25:25.35\00:25:26.69
and this is a good
quote to kind of understand
00:25:26.72\00:25:28.62
what this is saying here.
00:25:28.66\00:25:30.03
This comes from
Manuscript Releases,
00:25:30.06\00:25:31.39
volume 20, page 324.
00:25:31.43\00:25:32.96
Very short, very
sweet, but very clear.
00:25:32.99\00:25:35.56
It is said
here, "The Holy Spirit
00:25:35.60\00:25:37.30
is the comforter
in Christ's name.
00:25:37.37\00:25:41.20
He personifies Christ, yet
is a distinct personality."
00:25:41.24\00:25:45.77
Amen.
00:25:45.81\00:25:47.18
And so while the Holy Spirit
is a distinct third person
00:25:47.21\00:25:50.98
with the same
character and personality
00:25:51.01\00:25:53.42
as the Father and the Son,
00:25:53.45\00:25:54.78
He is a
representative of Christ.
00:25:54.82\00:25:56.89
So Christ
essentially is coming to us
00:25:56.92\00:25:59.82
in the form of the spirit,
when the Holy Spirit shows up,
00:25:59.85\00:26:03.53
because as we're gonna
read in just a few moments
00:26:03.56\00:26:05.46
over in John Chapter 16,
00:26:05.49\00:26:06.93
He says, "He will
show you and reveal to you
00:26:07.00\00:26:09.23
all that is from Me and by Me."
00:26:09.26\00:26:10.67
Amen.
00:26:10.70\00:26:12.03
And so while He is a distinct
third individual person,
00:26:12.07\00:26:14.97
He is Christ personified
in character and in spirit,
00:26:15.00\00:26:18.34
so that we might
be able to manifest
00:26:18.37\00:26:20.78
within ourselves as we
receive the Holy Spirit,
00:26:20.81\00:26:23.35
that of the very moral
loving character of Jesus.
00:26:23.38\00:26:26.18
So when you think
about Hebrews 1:3,
00:26:26.21\00:26:28.25
it talks about
Christ being the outraying,
00:26:28.28\00:26:31.49
the effluence of the Father,
00:26:31.52\00:26:35.19
the same with the Holy Spirit.
00:26:35.22\00:26:36.56
Absolutely.
00:26:36.59\00:26:37.93
So, you know, in verse
23, if we go on down here,
00:26:37.96\00:26:40.53
Jesus says that,
00:26:40.60\00:26:42.46
"If anyone loves
Me and keeps My word,
00:26:42.50\00:26:45.23
My father and I
will come to them
00:26:45.27\00:26:47.54
and will make a home with him."
00:26:47.57\00:26:49.40
So we're looking
at three coequal,
00:26:49.44\00:26:53.61
coeternal persons
that are one being.
00:26:53.68\00:26:56.95
Let me give you an
example of what I just said
00:26:56.98\00:26:59.05
that you could
twist another scripture
00:26:59.08\00:27:00.82
to make it sound
something that it doesn't.
00:27:00.85\00:27:02.68
For instance,
what I just read here
00:27:02.72\00:27:04.19
in John 14:17-18,
00:27:04.22\00:27:07.82
where Christ says here,
00:27:07.86\00:27:09.19
"I will not leave you
orphans, I will come to you
00:27:09.22\00:27:11.13
speaking in the
form of the spirit."
00:27:11.16\00:27:12.69
And so people take
that scripture, as I said,
00:27:12.73\00:27:14.43
and they will
apply and say, see,
00:27:14.46\00:27:16.03
that is the Spirit of Christ.
00:27:16.06\00:27:17.40
So it must be Christ
coming in the spirit form,
00:27:17.47\00:27:20.14
but it's not a
third distinct person
00:27:20.17\00:27:21.87
from the Father and the Son.
00:27:21.90\00:27:23.41
Well, we can
apply the same method
00:27:23.44\00:27:25.21
if we go to the
scripture where Christ says
00:27:25.24\00:27:26.91
in response to
Thomas's doubting,
00:27:26.98\00:27:28.91
where He says to
him, "When you see Me,
00:27:28.94\00:27:31.55
you have seen the Father."
00:27:31.58\00:27:33.01
As when I was in the Oneness
Apostolic Pentecostal Church,
00:27:33.05\00:27:35.75
that was one of the text
that they would use to say, see,
00:27:35.78\00:27:38.49
Jesus is the
Father because He said,
00:27:38.52\00:27:40.39
when you see Him,
you see the Father.
00:27:40.46\00:27:42.76
But even I've
run into many people,
00:27:42.79\00:27:44.33
even those who
don't believe that
00:27:44.36\00:27:45.76
the Holy Spirit is a
third distinct person,
00:27:45.79\00:27:47.43
they still believe
that the Father and the Son
00:27:47.50\00:27:49.36
are two distinct persons.
00:27:49.40\00:27:51.20
So you can take scriptures
and read too much into them
00:27:51.23\00:27:54.44
and apply something
00:27:54.47\00:27:55.80
that's actually
not being said there.
00:27:55.84\00:27:57.34
We know that when
Christ was saying,
00:27:57.41\00:27:59.07
when you see Me, you
have seen the Father.
00:27:59.11\00:28:00.98
He's saying, you know,
00:28:01.01\00:28:02.88
the Father cannot
be revealed to you
00:28:02.91\00:28:04.65
because if He was
here and very present,
00:28:04.68\00:28:06.72
you would just disintegrate.
00:28:06.75\00:28:08.08
But I am the Father's character,
00:28:08.12\00:28:11.22
I am the Father's moral essence,
00:28:11.25\00:28:14.06
personified right here
in the physical presence,
00:28:14.09\00:28:16.66
but yet He was a distinct
00:28:16.73\00:28:18.33
different
person than the Father.
00:28:18.36\00:28:19.69
Amen. Absolutely.
00:28:19.73\00:28:21.06
I think a lot of
the confusion too that
00:28:21.10\00:28:22.43
comes with a
subject of the Holy Spirit,
00:28:22.46\00:28:24.33
or even the
Godhead in general is,
00:28:24.37\00:28:26.94
people focus and
they make their main focus
00:28:26.97\00:28:31.14
on the numerical sense of
it where the scripture says,
00:28:31.17\00:28:33.48
"Hear, O Israel, the
Lord our God is one."
00:28:33.51\00:28:36.21
And they think that,
that one is only speaking
00:28:36.24\00:28:38.31
in a numerical sense
00:28:38.35\00:28:39.68
but as we've been talking about,
00:28:39.71\00:28:41.05
is speaking of the
sense of unity and agreement.
00:28:41.08\00:28:42.42
Right.
00:28:42.45\00:28:43.79
In the Hebrew the word is echad,
00:28:43.82\00:28:45.49
which is compound
unity. Right. Yeah.
00:28:45.52\00:28:48.19
So like, you know,
you had the example
00:28:48.22\00:28:49.69
where it says that,
00:28:49.72\00:28:51.06
when a man and a
woman are married,
00:28:51.09\00:28:52.43
they become one flesh.
00:28:52.46\00:28:54.23
It doesn't mean that
00:28:54.30\00:28:55.63
we're one flesh
in the literal sense,
00:28:55.66\00:28:58.03
in the numerical sense,
but in agreement and in unity.
00:28:58.07\00:29:00.54
Amen. Right.
00:29:00.57\00:29:01.90
Amen. Great point.
00:29:01.94\00:29:03.27
Thank you for
bringing that in, Dakota.
00:29:03.30\00:29:05.17
All right. So
let's look then at...
00:29:05.21\00:29:07.71
Let me say this.
00:29:14.25\00:29:15.58
Scripture unequivocally teaches
00:29:15.62\00:29:18.72
that the Holy Spirit
is as much a conscious,
00:29:18.75\00:29:23.56
intelligent person as
the Father and the Son,
00:29:23.63\00:29:27.20
because all of the elements
00:29:27.23\00:29:29.70
that constitute personality
00:29:29.73\00:29:32.50
are attributed to Him.
00:29:32.53\00:29:33.87
Sure, sure.
00:29:33.94\00:29:35.27
So we want you to
turn in your Bibles
00:29:35.30\00:29:37.01
to 1 Corinthians Chapter 2.
00:29:37.04\00:29:40.31
And let's see
that the Holy Spirit
00:29:40.38\00:29:43.01
is endowed with wisdom,
00:29:43.04\00:29:45.51
understanding and will.
00:29:45.55\00:29:47.42
Who wants to take 1
Corinthians 2: 10-11?
00:29:47.45\00:29:51.22
I'll take that one. Okay.
00:29:51.25\00:29:54.72
This is an exciting
study because I came...
00:29:54.76\00:29:58.26
Again, as I said, I came from
00:29:58.29\00:30:01.16
a twisted understanding of God.
00:30:01.20\00:30:03.26
And over the
years God has had to
00:30:03.30\00:30:04.87
straighten my understanding
out from a biblical perspective.
00:30:04.90\00:30:08.14
And so, there's a
lot of different views
00:30:08.17\00:30:09.77
of this out there.
00:30:09.80\00:30:11.14
And I just want to
make a quick appeal
00:30:11.17\00:30:12.51
that you allow the
Bible to speak to you,
00:30:12.54\00:30:14.51
allow the scriptures
to speak to you directly
00:30:14.54\00:30:16.85
and not some preconceived ideas
00:30:16.88\00:30:18.98
or understanding that
00:30:19.01\00:30:20.35
someone else is sharing with you
00:30:20.42\00:30:21.75
because that's how
confusion comes in.
00:30:21.78\00:30:23.32
And people begin to
adopt confusing ideas
00:30:23.39\00:30:25.92
based on what others are saying,
00:30:25.95\00:30:27.69
rather than what
the scripture is saying.
00:30:27.72\00:30:29.29
Amen. All right.
00:30:29.32\00:30:31.36
1 Corinthians 2:10-11 says,
00:30:31.39\00:30:33.73
"But God hath revealed them
00:30:33.80\00:30:35.96
unto us by his Spirit,
00:30:36.00\00:30:37.73
for the Spirit
searcheth all things,
00:30:37.77\00:30:39.80
yea, the deep things of God.
00:30:39.83\00:30:41.67
For what man
knoweth the things of a man,
00:30:41.70\00:30:44.24
save the spirit of
man which is in him?
00:30:44.31\00:30:46.98
Even so the things
of God knoweth no man,
00:30:47.01\00:30:49.61
but the Spirit of God."
00:30:49.64\00:30:53.52
Interesting.
00:30:53.55\00:30:54.88
So now let's break this one down
00:30:54.92\00:30:57.29
because many people will say,
00:30:57.32\00:31:02.29
"Well, this is the
energy or the spirit..."
00:31:02.32\00:31:07.20
An impersonal
force. An impersonal force.
00:31:07.23\00:31:09.70
Yeah. But let's look at this.
00:31:09.73\00:31:11.73
When it says
the spirit searches,
00:31:11.77\00:31:14.04
searches is an
act of understanding.
00:31:14.07\00:31:16.07
Right. Absolutely. All right.
00:31:16.10\00:31:18.11
Then he goes
down here and he says,
00:31:18.14\00:31:19.67
what man knows the things,
except the spirit of the man.
00:31:19.71\00:31:22.51
Now this is self-consciousness
00:31:22.54\00:31:24.15
that resides in
a man or a woman.
00:31:24.18\00:31:26.08
Sure.
00:31:26.11\00:31:27.45
But when you get down
to the next sentence, says,
00:31:27.52\00:31:31.02
even so no one
knows the things of God
00:31:31.05\00:31:33.05
except the Spirit of God.
00:31:33.09\00:31:34.76
This is a totally different
construction in the Greek.
00:31:34.79\00:31:39.29
It is not a mere
self-consciousness of God.
00:31:39.33\00:31:43.60
Right.
00:31:43.67\00:31:45.00
This is the personal,
00:31:45.03\00:31:46.84
Holy Spirit in
relation to the Father.
00:31:46.87\00:31:50.04
And John 4:24, Jesus said,
00:31:50.11\00:31:53.71
"God is spirit."
00:31:53.78\00:31:55.14
That's right.
00:31:55.18\00:31:56.51
So when people say,
00:31:56.54\00:31:58.38
well, the
spirit is just a power.
00:31:58.41\00:32:00.82
Well, wait a minute.
00:32:00.85\00:32:02.18
Does the spirit have a spirit?
00:32:02.22\00:32:03.99
You know, I mean...
00:32:04.02\00:32:05.82
If God is spirit...
00:32:05.85\00:32:07.69
Christ was spirit
before He became...
00:32:07.72\00:32:09.56
when He was
incarnated. That's right.
00:32:09.59\00:32:11.43
So here we see
that we do have wisdom
00:32:11.46\00:32:16.46
and understanding in
this act of searching.
00:32:16.50\00:32:19.70
So let's flip it
over to 1 Corinthians 12.
00:32:19.73\00:32:23.41
Why don't you take that, Ryan?
00:32:23.44\00:32:24.77
Sure. 1 Corinthians 12.
00:32:24.81\00:32:27.01
And this is gonna be verse 11.
00:32:27.08\00:32:29.41
It says, "But one
and the same Spirit
00:32:29.44\00:32:31.91
works all these things,
distributing to each one
00:32:31.95\00:32:35.62
individually as He wills."
00:32:35.65\00:32:38.89
And so this is talking about
00:32:38.92\00:32:41.42
how the spirit
00:32:41.46\00:32:42.79
endows the very
concept of a will,
00:32:42.82\00:32:44.79
that we have the
leading guiding power
00:32:44.83\00:32:48.20
of the spirit
00:32:48.23\00:32:49.73
who works in all
these things to give us
00:32:49.76\00:32:51.83
and distribute these individual
wonderful spiritual gifts
00:32:51.87\00:32:54.77
that we receive as
believing Christians.
00:32:54.80\00:32:58.34
And so it's
interesting here that,
00:32:58.37\00:33:00.68
that Paul's language...
00:33:00.71\00:33:02.48
Of course it
would be meaningless
00:33:02.51\00:33:03.85
if the spirit is only
in an influencing energy.
00:33:03.88\00:33:06.72
There's a personality here.
00:33:06.75\00:33:08.15
There's a
personhood to this that,
00:33:08.18\00:33:10.69
that there's a
choice being made,
00:33:10.72\00:33:12.22
that I'm gonna give divine...
00:33:12.25\00:33:13.59
I'm prerogative, yeah.
00:33:13.66\00:33:14.99
A divine
prerogative, a divine choice.
00:33:15.02\00:33:16.36
Yeah.
00:33:16.39\00:33:17.73
An agenda to say, "Okay,
I'm gonna give this person
00:33:17.76\00:33:20.10
this specific gift
because that's what
00:33:20.13\00:33:21.56
they're gonna
do for the kingdom.
00:33:21.60\00:33:22.93
I'm gonna give this
person a specific gift
00:33:22.96\00:33:24.57
because they're gonna
bless the kingdom and amplify
00:33:24.60\00:33:27.44
and advance the
kingdom in this way."
00:33:27.47\00:33:28.97
So there's an
intelligence there.
00:33:29.00\00:33:31.01
And some non-personal force
00:33:31.04\00:33:34.54
or essence or
power cannot do that.
00:33:34.58\00:33:38.08
There's a divine intelligence
00:33:38.11\00:33:39.91
and personhood behind this work.
00:33:39.95\00:33:41.55
Amen.
00:33:41.58\00:33:42.92
And we know, if
we turn to Acts 13:2.
00:33:42.95\00:33:45.82
I'll let you
take that one, Dakota.
00:33:45.85\00:33:47.66
That the Holy Spirit,
00:33:47.69\00:33:49.66
He not only
distributed the gifts
00:33:49.69\00:33:52.73
according to His will,
00:33:52.76\00:33:54.30
but He chose church leaders
00:33:54.33\00:33:57.57
and He exercised
His authority there.
00:33:57.60\00:34:00.54
Acts 13:2.
00:34:00.57\00:34:03.61
"As they ministered to the Lord,
00:34:03.64\00:34:04.97
and fasted, the Holy Ghost said,
00:34:05.01\00:34:07.18
Separate me Barnabas
and Saul for the work
00:34:07.21\00:34:10.85
whereunto I have called them."
00:34:10.88\00:34:13.21
The Holy Spirit said.
00:34:13.25\00:34:15.98
We've got... That's right.
00:34:16.02\00:34:17.39
I've got so many
scriptures on that.
00:34:17.42\00:34:18.85
You know, somebody telling
me, "Well, He doesn't speak."
00:34:18.89\00:34:21.99
And I said, really,
I've got so many scriptures
00:34:22.02\00:34:25.53
that talks about the
Holy Spirit speaking.
00:34:25.56\00:34:28.03
But He's exercising
again, a divine prerogative.
00:34:28.06\00:34:31.77
Sure.
00:34:31.80\00:34:33.13
The Holy Spirit is
acting as Christ agent,
00:34:33.17\00:34:36.44
as God's agent here.
00:34:36.47\00:34:38.54
He is ministering to the church,
00:34:38.57\00:34:42.41
choosing the leaders
and where they will go.
00:34:42.44\00:34:45.25
So let's look at Acts 15:28.
00:34:45.28\00:34:49.35
Okay, Acts 15:28.
00:34:49.38\00:34:50.89
"For it seemed good to
the Holy Spirit and to us,
00:34:50.92\00:34:54.39
to lay upon you
no greater burden
00:34:54.42\00:34:56.52
than these necessary things."
00:34:56.56\00:34:59.36
And so we see
that there again...
00:34:59.39\00:35:01.60
There's a divine intelligence,
a personal intelligence
00:35:01.63\00:35:04.70
that is leading to
make church decisions here.
00:35:04.73\00:35:07.77
So the spirit,
that intelligent spirit,
00:35:07.80\00:35:10.11
a person who is
leading these individuals,
00:35:10.14\00:35:12.81
working through the church
00:35:12.84\00:35:14.18
to make good spiritual decisions
00:35:14.21\00:35:16.21
for the church.
00:35:16.24\00:35:17.58
Amen. Absolutely.
00:35:17.65\00:35:18.98
And we see it again in Acts 16.
00:35:19.01\00:35:20.92
This is...
00:35:20.95\00:35:22.28
Why don't you
take that one, Ryan?
00:35:22.32\00:35:23.99
I mean, Dakota, Acts 16:6-7.
00:35:24.02\00:35:27.59
We're seeing the
Holy Spirit is...
00:35:27.66\00:35:30.23
He decides as He wills.
00:35:30.26\00:35:32.59
He distributes the gifts.
00:35:32.63\00:35:34.93
He chooses church leaders.
00:35:34.96\00:35:36.67
He's leading in
church decisions.
00:35:36.70\00:35:39.13
But He also led in the direction
00:35:39.17\00:35:41.94
of the preaching of the gospel.
00:35:41.97\00:35:43.44
Acts 16:6.
00:35:43.51\00:35:45.64
Acts 16:6-7. Yes.
00:35:45.67\00:35:48.51
"Now when they had
gone throughout Phrygia
00:35:48.54\00:35:50.68
and the region of
Galatia, and were forbidden
00:35:50.75\00:35:53.25
of the Holy Ghost to
preach the word in Asia,
00:35:53.28\00:35:57.02
after they were come to..."
00:35:57.09\00:35:58.75
How do you pronounce that?
00:35:58.79\00:36:00.16
Mysia. Mysia.
00:36:00.19\00:36:01.52
Mysia. Mysia?
00:36:01.56\00:36:02.89
Okay, Mysia or
however you say that.
00:36:02.92\00:36:04.26
"They assayed to
go into Bithynia,
00:36:04.29\00:36:08.43
but the Spirit
rather suffered them not."
00:36:08.46\00:36:10.67
Right.
00:36:10.70\00:36:12.03
New King James Version says,
"Spirit did not permit them."
00:36:12.07\00:36:15.57
So they were
forbidden by the Holy Spirit.
00:36:15.60\00:36:18.64
There's a time and
place for everything, right?
00:36:18.67\00:36:20.01
Right. Absolutely.
00:36:20.08\00:36:21.41
But here we see the
spirit saying not now,
00:36:21.44\00:36:25.38
don't go, I'm not
allowing you to go.
00:36:25.41\00:36:27.75
Right. Does that
sound like a person?
00:36:27.78\00:36:30.39
Absolutely.
00:36:30.42\00:36:32.09
Only a person could give that
00:36:32.12\00:36:33.66
type of leadership and guidance.
00:36:33.69\00:36:35.02
Okay. Yeah.
00:36:35.06\00:36:36.39
Why don't you hit the
idea of how the Holy Spirit
00:36:36.42\00:36:39.06
is endowed with emotion?
00:36:39.09\00:36:40.80
Well, we serve an emotional God.
00:36:40.83\00:36:42.76
Yes.
00:36:42.80\00:36:44.17
And while we know
that, that can be a gift
00:36:44.20\00:36:46.97
and it is certainly
a gift I think that God
00:36:47.04\00:36:49.17
has bestowed upon us
00:36:49.20\00:36:50.61
to be able to
express the emotion.
00:36:50.64\00:36:53.78
We know that sometimes
00:36:53.81\00:36:55.14
the enemy will
play upon our emotions.
00:36:55.18\00:36:57.05
And so we have to
safeguard and had to be careful.
00:36:57.08\00:36:59.18
But I like to remind people
that we serve a God of emotion.
00:36:59.21\00:37:01.88
Amen.
00:37:01.92\00:37:03.25
He created emotion. He wants...
00:37:03.28\00:37:04.85
We are emotional beings.
00:37:04.89\00:37:06.22
We were created in His image.
00:37:06.25\00:37:07.92
And so He is an emotional God.
00:37:07.96\00:37:09.32
The Father is
an emotional being.
00:37:09.36\00:37:11.06
Jesus expressed His emotions
many times in scriptures
00:37:11.09\00:37:14.80
as He was working with
00:37:14.83\00:37:17.83
and working among
the people of God.
00:37:17.87\00:37:20.57
And here we find
00:37:20.64\00:37:21.97
that the Holy
Spirit is no different.
00:37:22.00\00:37:23.41
We're gonna go to Romans 15:30.
00:37:23.44\00:37:26.68
Again, this is Romans 15:30.
00:37:26.71\00:37:29.14
And we see here
that the spirit loves,
00:37:29.18\00:37:32.08
that the spirit
shows emotions of love.
00:37:32.11\00:37:34.42
It says, "Now I beg you brethren
00:37:34.45\00:37:36.25
through the Lord Jesus Christ,
00:37:36.28\00:37:38.35
and," notice
there's a distinction here,
00:37:38.39\00:37:40.69
"through the love of the spirit,
00:37:40.76\00:37:43.12
that you strive together with Me
00:37:43.16\00:37:44.93
in prayers to God for Me."
00:37:44.96\00:37:47.13
Love, while love
identifies who God is.
00:37:47.20\00:37:50.70
Love can also...
00:37:50.77\00:37:52.10
We can have emotions of love.
00:37:52.13\00:37:53.47
And so we see
that the Holy Spirit
00:37:53.50\00:37:55.00
here is also
expressing an emotion of love.
00:37:55.04\00:37:58.24
And then what...
00:37:58.27\00:37:59.67
I mean, God is love,
00:37:59.71\00:38:01.74
so we expect
that the Holy Spirit
00:38:01.78\00:38:03.75
to be the spirit of love.
00:38:03.78\00:38:05.38
But what about
the emotions of...
00:38:05.41\00:38:08.92
Can we grieve the Father?
00:38:08.95\00:38:10.92
Oh, of course. Absolutely. Sure.
00:38:10.99\00:38:12.52
Ephesians 4:30
says that actually.
00:38:12.55\00:38:14.86
It says that...
00:38:14.89\00:38:16.22
Why don't you read that?
00:38:16.26\00:38:18.26
"And do not grieve
the Holy Spirit of God,
00:38:18.29\00:38:20.53
whereby you are sealed
unto the day of redemption."
00:38:20.60\00:38:24.30
And we need to make...
00:38:24.33\00:38:25.67
We need to be careful that
00:38:25.70\00:38:27.04
we do not grieve
the spirit of God
00:38:27.07\00:38:28.40
and continuing to rebel
00:38:28.44\00:38:30.14
against the will
of God in our life.
00:38:30.21\00:38:31.77
We can do that.
00:38:31.81\00:38:33.14
We can actually bring
much sorrow and agony,
00:38:33.17\00:38:35.41
even anguish to God.
00:38:35.44\00:38:36.78
So can a force be grieved?
00:38:36.85\00:38:39.51
An impersonal
force. An impersonal force.
00:38:39.55\00:38:40.92
An impersonal
force cannot be grieved.
00:38:40.95\00:38:43.15
Right. Only a
person can be grieved.
00:38:43.18\00:38:44.99
Do you know?
00:38:45.02\00:38:46.35
And then in Greek it's
actually cease grieving
00:38:46.39\00:38:49.19
the Holy Spirit.
00:38:49.22\00:38:50.99
By whom, and that is
literal, that it's not by which,
00:38:51.03\00:38:55.10
by whom you were sealed
for the day of redemption.
00:38:55.13\00:38:59.53
You know, and
we've emphasized this,
00:38:59.57\00:39:01.27
the Father, the
Son, the Holy Spirit,
00:39:01.30\00:39:03.07
while there are three
distinct different persons,
00:39:03.10\00:39:05.31
they are one and
the same in goal,
00:39:05.34\00:39:07.68
agenda, purpose
and as we're seeing
00:39:07.71\00:39:09.84
their emotions in essence.
00:39:09.88\00:39:11.45
And so it's interesting...
00:39:11.48\00:39:12.81
In the life of Christ, do
we see Christ being grieved?
00:39:12.85\00:39:16.99
You know, the Bible tell...
00:39:17.02\00:39:18.35
You know, within this,
00:39:18.39\00:39:19.72
I'll think of the
story that perhaps
00:39:19.75\00:39:21.09
the shortest
scripture in all the Bible.
00:39:21.12\00:39:22.46
As he was weeping
over the fact that,
00:39:22.49\00:39:25.06
that He saw the pain and
the hurt in Mary and Martha
00:39:25.09\00:39:27.13
when they lost Lazarus.
00:39:27.20\00:39:28.53
Yes.
00:39:28.56\00:39:29.90
I can imagine Christ
weeping over Jerusalem
00:39:29.93\00:39:32.30
with emotion as he was
saying, O Jerusalem, Jerusalem,
00:39:32.33\00:39:36.10
how long I have, you know,
00:39:36.14\00:39:37.74
wanted to gather
you as a hen gathers her
00:39:37.77\00:39:40.08
hens under her wings
or chicks under her wings,
00:39:40.11\00:39:42.31
but you were not willing.
00:39:42.34\00:39:43.68
We see, and we're actually told
00:39:43.75\00:39:45.38
in the Spirit of Prophecy,
00:39:45.41\00:39:47.05
that when He was
rebuking the Pharisees,
00:39:47.12\00:39:48.85
He did it with
tears in His eyes.
00:39:48.88\00:39:51.12
And so as Christ
expresses emotion
00:39:51.15\00:39:53.76
and the Holy Spirit is to reveal
00:39:53.79\00:39:55.59
now the manifestation of
Christ will and Christ...
00:39:55.62\00:40:00.03
Christ's very, very intelligence
00:40:00.10\00:40:02.13
and His moral character.
00:40:02.16\00:40:03.57
You could
imagine that as a person,
00:40:03.60\00:40:05.57
the Holy Spirit can be
grieved and show emotion.
00:40:05.60\00:40:08.27
Amen. Absolutely.
00:40:08.30\00:40:09.64
So the spirit loves? Absolutely.
00:40:09.67\00:40:13.04
The spirit can be grieved
00:40:13.07\00:40:14.41
and the lay
person can be grieved.
00:40:14.44\00:40:16.51
The spirit can be insulted.
Let me read Hebrews 10:29.
00:40:16.54\00:40:20.62
But this always,
this one gets you.
00:40:20.65\00:40:24.02
Hebrews 10:29.
00:40:24.09\00:40:25.42
"Of how much worse
punishment, do you suppose,
00:40:25.45\00:40:28.86
will he be thought worthy,
00:40:28.89\00:40:30.43
who has trampled the
Son of God under foot,
00:40:30.46\00:40:33.80
counted the
blood of the covenant,
00:40:33.83\00:40:36.00
by which he was
sanctified a common thing
00:40:36.03\00:40:39.77
and insulted the spirit."
00:40:39.80\00:40:43.81
The capital S,
Holy Spirit of grace.
00:40:43.84\00:40:48.21
So only a person
00:40:48.24\00:40:52.01
can be insulted.
00:40:52.05\00:40:54.55
Yeah.
00:40:54.58\00:40:56.89
You can't insult a wind
or an air, or a fire or...
00:40:56.92\00:41:01.06
In all these things
00:41:01.09\00:41:02.42
you will find in
Scripture by the way
00:41:02.46\00:41:03.83
that this Holy
Spirit is compared to.
00:41:03.86\00:41:05.86
The Holy Spirit
is compared to wind.
00:41:05.89\00:41:07.90
The Holy Spirit
is compared to fire.
00:41:07.93\00:41:09.76
The Holy Spirit
is compared to rain.
00:41:09.80\00:41:11.70
The Holy Spirit is
compared to a dove.
00:41:11.73\00:41:14.77
And so all of
these things are elements
00:41:14.80\00:41:17.67
that it's being
compared to, but it's,
00:41:17.71\00:41:20.18
the Holy Spirit is not wind,
00:41:20.21\00:41:21.58
the Holy Spirit is not
fire, it is not a dove.
00:41:21.61\00:41:24.31
It is not...
These are describing...
00:41:24.35\00:41:26.72
It's a mode of
operation. Absolutely.
00:41:26.75\00:41:28.72
Like Jesus, I am divine. Right.
00:41:28.75\00:41:30.89
I am the gate. I
am the door. Yeah.
00:41:30.92\00:41:33.56
So it is just a
mode of operation
00:41:33.59\00:41:37.99
and that is critical.
00:41:38.03\00:41:39.36
Absolutely.
00:41:39.39\00:41:40.73
So we can, you can offend a dove
00:41:40.80\00:41:43.16
and per se.
00:41:43.20\00:41:44.53
Can offend the wind or a
fire or element like that.
00:41:44.57\00:41:47.47
But yet a person you can
00:41:47.54\00:41:49.37
and that's what
we're emphasizing here.
00:41:49.40\00:41:50.74
Okay. All right.
00:41:50.81\00:41:52.31
Acts 5:3.
00:41:52.34\00:41:54.71
Dakota, you want
to take that one?
00:41:54.74\00:41:56.28
Sure. Yeah.
00:41:56.31\00:41:57.91
Obviously this
is a really big one.
00:41:57.95\00:42:00.12
The story of
Ananias and Sapphira, yeah.
00:42:00.15\00:42:02.38
Acts 5:3, "But
Peter said, Ananias,
00:42:02.42\00:42:05.75
why hath Satan
filled thine heart
00:42:05.79\00:42:07.82
to lie to the Holy Ghost,
00:42:07.86\00:42:10.06
and to keep back part
of the price of the land?
00:42:10.13\00:42:13.60
Whiles it remained,
was it not thine own?
00:42:13.63\00:42:16.90
and after it was sold,
was it not in thine own power?
00:42:16.97\00:42:20.47
why hast thou conceived
this thing in thine heart?
00:42:20.54\00:42:23.04
thou hast not lied unto
men," then He clarifies,
00:42:23.07\00:42:26.34
"but unto God."
00:42:26.37\00:42:27.71
And so the Holy
Spirit is called God here.
00:42:27.74\00:42:30.15
We know it's
part of the Godhead.
00:42:30.18\00:42:31.81
And when you lie to God,
00:42:31.85\00:42:33.95
you're ultimately lying
to the Holy Spirit as well,
00:42:34.02\00:42:36.05
which, as we've clarified...
00:42:36.08\00:42:37.42
You lie to the Holy
Spirit, you lie to God.
00:42:37.49\00:42:38.82
You cannot lie to
an impersonal force.
00:42:38.85\00:42:40.29
Right. Amen.
00:42:40.36\00:42:41.69
Amen. Absolutely.
00:42:41.72\00:42:43.06
And then...
00:42:43.09\00:42:44.89
Can anyone
00:42:44.93\00:42:46.93
but God be blasphemed?
00:42:47.00\00:42:50.67
Well, we know that
00:42:50.70\00:42:52.03
according to Matthew Chapter 12,
00:42:52.07\00:42:55.14
God can be blasphemed.
00:42:55.17\00:42:57.11
But, of course, we know that,
00:42:57.14\00:42:58.47
that great scary occurrence
00:42:58.51\00:43:02.71
that can happen in one's life,
00:43:02.74\00:43:06.18
blaspheming the
Holy Spirit is going far
00:43:06.21\00:43:09.42
and beyond something
that Christ even said,
00:43:09.45\00:43:10.99
He couldn't forgive you for it.
00:43:11.02\00:43:12.55
And I just want
to emphasize that,
00:43:12.59\00:43:15.82
that...
00:43:15.86\00:43:17.23
And I'm sure we're
gonna read this again.
00:43:17.26\00:43:18.59
Mark 3:28.
00:43:18.63\00:43:19.96
Okay, yeah, let's read.
Let's read it, Mark 3:28.
00:43:20.00\00:43:21.33
Yes. So Mark 3:28-30.
00:43:21.36\00:43:25.13
It says,
"Assuredly, I say to you,
00:43:25.17\00:43:27.34
all sins will be
forgiven the sons of men,
00:43:27.37\00:43:29.87
and whatever
blasphemies they may utter.
00:43:29.90\00:43:33.07
But he who blasphemes
against the Holy Spirit
00:43:33.11\00:43:35.68
never has forgiveness,
00:43:35.71\00:43:37.05
but is subject to
eternal condemnation.
00:43:37.08\00:43:40.12
But they said, he
has an unclean spirit."
00:43:40.15\00:43:42.98
And so...
00:43:43.02\00:43:44.35
You know, again in Matthew
00:43:44.39\00:43:45.72
He also emphasizes the
fact that you can, you can,
00:43:45.75\00:43:48.49
you know,
blaspheme and speak badly
00:43:48.52\00:43:50.36
against the Son of
Man, even himself Christ.
00:43:50.43\00:43:52.79
And this is
what's amazing to me.
00:43:52.83\00:43:54.63
And again, it shows
to me even more clear,
00:43:54.66\00:43:58.63
straightforward
proof that the Holy Spirit
00:43:58.67\00:44:02.14
is a third
distinct person from Christ
00:44:02.17\00:44:05.57
because He just
states in that scripture.
00:44:05.61\00:44:07.88
You can say... You
can say bad things to me.
00:44:07.91\00:44:11.45
You can put Me
down as the Son of Man,
00:44:11.48\00:44:13.92
as the Son of God.
00:44:13.95\00:44:15.32
But if you
blaspheme the Holy Spirit,
00:44:15.35\00:44:17.49
you've went far and beyond,
00:44:17.52\00:44:18.85
you've crossed that
line of demarcation,
00:44:18.89\00:44:20.86
you've passed the
point of no return.
00:44:20.89\00:44:22.99
And so it's
interesting that if Christ,
00:44:23.02\00:44:25.86
if the Spirit of God,
00:44:25.89\00:44:27.30
the Holy Spirit is
indeed Christ Himself,
00:44:27.33\00:44:31.47
then, that to me,
00:44:31.50\00:44:32.83
that would be
confusion for Christ to say,
00:44:32.87\00:44:34.84
"Oh, you can say all
these things about me.
00:44:34.87\00:44:36.91
And you know, you can lie to Me
00:44:36.94\00:44:38.27
and you can put Me down
00:44:38.31\00:44:39.64
but when you
blaspheme the Holy Spirit,
00:44:39.67\00:44:42.41
I can't forgive you for that."
00:44:42.44\00:44:43.85
Well, then essentially you
would be doing that to Him,
00:44:43.88\00:44:46.51
and that's confusion.
00:44:46.55\00:44:47.88
And so we know that he's,
Christ is essentially saying,
00:44:47.92\00:44:50.49
you know, My power,
the power of My spirit,
00:44:50.52\00:44:52.95
it's a time, you're living
in a judgment time period.
00:44:56.09\00:44:58.33
Well, you cannot afford
to reject the leading power
00:44:58.36\00:45:01.83
of the Holy Spirit.
00:45:01.86\00:45:03.20
And if you do, you
can set yourself up
00:45:03.23\00:45:05.80
for blasphemy.
00:45:05.83\00:45:07.34
Completely rejecting the living,
00:45:07.37\00:45:09.00
leading guiding power of gospel.
00:45:09.04\00:45:10.41
And only God can be
blasphemed. Absolutely.
00:45:10.44\00:45:12.07
You know, I think
that part of the problem,
00:45:12.11\00:45:14.08
of course, you know, Jesus said,
00:45:14.11\00:45:15.44
I and the Father are one.
00:45:15.48\00:45:17.88
Paul says that the Holy
Spirit is the Spirit of Christ,
00:45:17.91\00:45:21.02
the Spirit of the Father.
00:45:21.05\00:45:23.25
Sure. So this is
where people forget.
00:45:23.28\00:45:27.06
They are three
persons, one being,
00:45:27.09\00:45:31.19
one times one, times one.
00:45:31.23\00:45:34.10
They have the same attributes,
they have the same purpose.
00:45:34.13\00:45:37.50
They're the same essence.
00:45:37.57\00:45:39.53
Now, hard time,
00:45:39.57\00:45:40.94
we're not gonna
get to all of this.
00:45:40.97\00:45:42.30
But let me just...
00:45:42.34\00:45:43.67
Let me hit
something real quickly.
00:45:43.71\00:45:45.17
The Holy Spirit is
endowed with speech and mind
00:45:45.21\00:45:49.74
and you can look in Acts.
00:45:49.78\00:45:52.21
All throughout
Acts it's talking about
00:45:52.25\00:45:54.88
what the Holy Spirit says.
00:45:54.92\00:45:56.89
The Holy Spirit
speaks to Philip.
00:45:56.92\00:45:58.89
He's speaking.
00:45:58.92\00:46:00.66
And then he bears
witness Jesus said.
00:46:00.69\00:46:03.43
He teaches us the truth.
00:46:03.46\00:46:06.29
But what I want to get to,
00:46:06.33\00:46:08.60
because this is the scripture
00:46:08.63\00:46:10.40
that people will sometimes use
00:46:10.47\00:46:13.67
is Romans 8:26.
00:46:13.74\00:46:16.64
Yes. Would you...
00:46:16.71\00:46:18.04
You've got the
King James Version.
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Let's start with you Dakota.
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Read Romans 8:26 from
the King James Version.
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Romans 8:26.
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One of the most,
probably misunderstood text,
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misapplied text for
sure in all of the scripture.
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All right.
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It says, "Likewise the Spirit
also helpeth our infirmities,
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for we know not
what we should pray
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for as we ought,
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but the Spirit itself
maketh intercession for us
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with groanings
which cannot be uttered."
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The spirit itself.
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Why does the Greek...
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Why does Paul say
the spirit itself,
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if he is a person?
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If the Holy Spirit is a person,
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why would Paul
say the spirit itself?
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In the Greek the
word for spirit is Pneuma.
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It is neuter gender.
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And that means it is
not male, it is not female.
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This is perfectly
appropriate to say
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the spirit itself as far as
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following grammatical rules.
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But it would be equally...
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When Jesus said in John 4:24,
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"God is spirit and
you must worship Him
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in spirit and truth."
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It would be just
equally as grammatically correct
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to say God is spirit.
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You must worship it
in spirit and truth,
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because it is neuter gender.
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But the
interesting thing, I believe,
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Christ intercession
to the Father proves
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that He is a
different entity from the Father
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and the Holy
Spirit's intercession
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proves His distinct personhood.
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And I just want to point out
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that when Jesus
spoke of the Holy Spirit,
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anytime Jesus
spoke against the rule
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of Greek grammar,
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He always used
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the emphatic personal pronoun,
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He. Yeah.
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I think we can look
to our Lord and see that.
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Absolutely. Absolutely.
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And, you know,
this is something that
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a lot of people were all here,
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I prefer New King
James to King James
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because I get tripped
up under these and thou's,
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it just throws me off.
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But sometimes people say,
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"Yeah, but look,
they changed itself.
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In the New King James it
says, this Spirit Himself,
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as all of the rest
of the translations
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refer to Him in
a personal manner
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because Christ always did.
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But it's, I think that is...
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I think we're on
dangerous ground,
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when we call the Holy Spirit it.
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I agree.
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You know, I believe that
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we are...
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grieving Him in the fact that
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we are not
recognizing Him as God.
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Right. Absolutely.
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What do you think?
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Well, I think, absolutely,
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I think it sets
us up for exactly
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what we were just talking about,
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in the rejection
of the Holy Spirit
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and committing the one,
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the one act or the one existence
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or the state of which
we reject the Holy Spirit
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and commit
blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.
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When we don't
apply a personality,
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a person to that
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distinct
individual of the Holy Spirit,
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then we set ourselves
up to apply more emphasis
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to the Father and the Son.
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And we reject the
leading guiding power
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of the Holy Spirit.
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And I think that
puts us in a direction
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and sets us up for a dangerous,
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fearful looking forward
to judgment in rejecting
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the very person
that Christ said,
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I'm sending to
be a comfort to you.
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I'm sending to
lead and to guide you
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and to teach you all things
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and to remind you of all things.
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And I just, I know
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we have just a couple of minutes
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before our break here,
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but I just want to
add here very quickly.
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You know, I, as a
Seventh-day Adventist Christian,
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inside the
Seventh-day Adventist Church,
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there are many different views
on a lot of different subjects.
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But there is a strong movement
within the Adventist Church
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of those who are Seventh-day
Adventist Christians,
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but they are anti-Trinitarians.
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And on this particular
point, I'm sure people,
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they are gonna
watch this program
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and they're gonna
just pick us apart
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because of the interpretation
that they get personally
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from the particular
text that they see one way
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very different from us.
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But I think it's
important that we understand
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as I was finding
some of these that,
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you know, they try to manipulate
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the text as well as
the Spirit of Prophecy
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to say
something that it doesn't.
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But I just want to
make this very clear.
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Manuscripts Releases volume 14,
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as well as Acts of
the Apostles page 52,
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powerful texts,
you got to read this
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because this is powerful.
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She says here,
this is Ellen White,
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whom I believe had
the gift of prophecy,
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whom I believe was strongly
influenced by the Holy Spirit.
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She says, "It is not
essential for you to know
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and be able to define
just what the Holy Spirit is."
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Christ tells us that
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the Holy Spirit
is the comforter,
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and the comforter
is the Holy Ghost.
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On this point,
she goes on to say,
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"Silence is golden."
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And she's
referring to the nature,
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that you can't
understand the Holy Spirit.
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We can only
understand in as much as
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what the
scripture reveals to us.
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And we have to stick to that.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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And, you know, this is...
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We're just out of time.
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But the scripture shows us that
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the Holy Spirit possesses
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all the
attributes particular to God.
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I mean, He has,
He's holy, obviously,
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eminently holy
as His name suggest.
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He's eternal.
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Hebrews 9:14 talks
about the eternal spirit.
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He's all knowing,
Jesus said in John 14: 26,
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that He will
teach you all things.
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He's omnipresent.
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In Psalms He says,
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"Where can I go to be
away from your spirit?"
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He's omnipotent.
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He is the one who
actually was the one,
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who, if you will affected
the incarnation of Jesus,
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and miraculously
formed the incarnate Christ.
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So when we see this,
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we see that the
Holy Spirit is God.
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And again, it is
not God the Father,
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God, the Son,
God the Holy Spirit.
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It is God, the
Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
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One times, one
times one equals one.
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Amen.
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Well, we've got to
take a quick break,
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but we're going to be
back with a final thought.
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