I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Removing pain
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Lord, let my words
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Heal a heart that hurts
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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Hello, and welcome to
another 3ABN Today program.
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I'm Jason Bradley.
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and I am excited
that you could join us.
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We will be talking
about The 7th Scroll ministry.
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Now, perhaps you've heard
of The 7th Scroll ministry
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as our guests
have been here before.
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But if you haven't, you
will get that introduction
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to them today.
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We have with us Michael Edwards,
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who is The 7th Scroll president.
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And we have his wife
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and secretary
Joanna-Marie Edwards,
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and she's The
7th Scroll secretary.
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Welcome to the program.
Thank you for having us.
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It's great to
have you guys here.
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And I'm excited
about finding out
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all about how this got started.
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I know that it must
have been a faith walk.
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And, but before we jump in,
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we're gonna be blessed
in song by John Stoddard.
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He's going to be
playing "Come Thou Fount."
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Come, Thou Fount
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Of every blessing
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Tune my heart To sing Thy grace
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Streams of mercy
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Never ceasing
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Call for songs Of loudest praise
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And teach me ever
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To adore thee
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May I still thy goodness prove
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While the hope of
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Endless glory
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Fills my heart with joy And love
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Here I raise my
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Ebenezer Hither by thy help
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I've come
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And I hope, by Thy good pleasure
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Safely to arrive at home
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Jesus sought me
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when a stranger
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Wandering from the fold of God
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He, to rescue me from danger
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Interposed His precious blood
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His precious blood
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Oh, to grace how great a debtor
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Daily I'm constrained to be
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Let thy goodness like a fetter
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Draw me closer Lord to thee
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Prone to wander
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Lord, I feel it
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Prone to leave the God
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I love
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So here's my heart, Lord
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Take and seal it
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Seal it for court above
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Prone to wander
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Lord I feel it
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Prone to leave the God I love
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I love
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Here's my heart, Lord
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Take and seal it
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Seal it for the court above
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Seal it for the court above
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Seal it for the court above
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Seal it for your court above
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Wow, what a beautiful
song, "Come Thou Fount."
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I want to share a
scripture with you,
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this is found in
Hebrews 11:1, it says,
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"Now faith is the
substance of things hoped for,
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the evidence of
things not seen."
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You know, oftentimes
when I think about faith,
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I like to think
of it as the ability
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to tolerate uncertainty
while trusting in God.
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You know, as human beings
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we tend to want
to know everything.
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I mean, that's one
of the hardest things
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is to be able to
tolerate uncertainty
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and placing that trust in God.
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I'm excited that you
guys are here once again.
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Tell me a little bit
about The 7th Scroll ministry?
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Hmm, The 7th Scroll.
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I like to think that
The 7th Scroll started
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when our personal relationship
with God started to mature.
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We were fresh out of college,
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trying to figure
out life professionally.
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You know, where
was God taking us
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and how would this work?
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And Joe and I met
on Facebook. Okay.
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Now, not the best place but,
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I wouldn't
recommend for anyone else
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to look for their
life partner on Facebook,
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but we met on Facebook
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and God brought us
together at a really great time.
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And we supported each other
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through this journey
of trying to figure out
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what's next in life.
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And being both
raised in the church,
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through this frustration,
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we kind of supported
each other going back
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to our roots.
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And that's the foundation
and relationship with God.
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Got you.
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And as we started taking
our spiritual walk seriously,
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I began having dreams.
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And it was scary.
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I couldn't quite understand
where it was coming from,
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but I knew it was
God speaking to me.
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Yes.
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As this journey
kind of matriculated
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through a few months,
God spoke to me audibly.
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So I'm at worship one day
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and I hear God's
voice tell me that
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He wants me to
start a bus ministry,
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where I'm sharing
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the everlasting
gospel to my city,
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but also the testimony
of where He brought me from
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to I currently
was, and it was scary.
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But Proverbs tells us that
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in a multitude of
counselors there's safety.
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And God put a beautiful
support group around us.
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And this support group
was interested in the mission
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that God placed on our hearts.
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And we formed The 7th Scroll.
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Wow! Wow!
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I'm still kind
of stuck on the fact
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that you guys met on Facebook.
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You encouraged each other,
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you know, and then
you had these dreams.
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And that's, that's amazing.
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And then the
ministry came about?
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Right.
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So the ministry's
purpose was to share
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the everlasting gospel
through charitable service.
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And our main charitable service
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was going to be
this bus ministry.
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But when we formed the ministry,
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we didn't have a bus.
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Okay.
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And our whole
focus was, "Well, Lord,
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You told us to
start a bus ministry,
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but we don't have a bus."
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And around that same time,
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God was urging
us to get married.
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And we didn't quite understand,
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well, the
timing of this marriage
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and the bus like,
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how these two
kind of work together.
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And so, we followed God's lead,
because our favorite verses are
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1 Samuel 15:22 where it says,
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"Obedience is
better than sacrifice."
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And so, we wanted to obey God.
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He said, He was
urging us to get married.
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So we went ahead and
started planning a wedding.
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And we told all of
our families and friends
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that we invited that
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we weren't interested in
gifts or financial blessings,
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not because we're
the richest people
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in the world by any stretch.
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But simply because
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we're just so happy
that God brought us together.
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And we wanted to
share that moment
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with our friends and family.
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And we had
gracious family and friends
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that still
supported us monetarily.
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Yes.
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And we're truly
appreciative for that.
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But a few months
later, we found a bus.
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And it just so happened
that all of the money down
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to the penny that
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we got from our
wedding paid for the bus.
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Wow! So it finally clicked.
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I want to touch on that part
for a second because, you know,
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you weren't asking for,
you know, financial gifts
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or anything like
that, monetary gifts.
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But then you ended up
getting some monetary gifts
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for your wedding?
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Right, right.
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And then you took that money
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and invested it
into the ministry?
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Correct. Correct.
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Wow. It was a blessing.
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We got the bus
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and with the support
of our church family,
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Hanson Place Seventh-day
Adventist Church in Brooklyn.
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Okay, I've been there.
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And our then
pastor, Pastor Bernard Penn
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and with Elder Jeremiah Cox Sr.,
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and the rest of
our church family,
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we were able to get
the bus on the road.
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So we dedicated the
bus in July 27 of 2013.
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Okay.
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And the first day
that we got the bus
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on the road was July 29.
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That was the Monday of 2013
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and we pulled the
bus out of the lot.
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And I just began crying. Wow!
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It was just such a
blessing to actually see
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what God told
me, become a reality.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And I don't want to get in
trouble here, Jason, but...
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Okay. I have to be honest.
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You know, driving the
bus for the first time
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was probably 1B to
getting married 1A,
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this is close, it's close,
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I'll still give the edge to,
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you know getting
married was a blessing.
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You might end up
getting in trouble,
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but we have a
picture of the bus here.
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Yeah, yeah, it
was some real moment.
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You're driving it.
Just getting out there.
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And I'm sure the initial
riders who came on the bus
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probably thought
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I was a little crazy for crying,
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but it was such a
blessing just to be out there
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and to be servicing people,
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sharing the everlasting gospel.
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And to see God's will
being played out in your life.
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You know, He
called you to do this.
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And now you're seeing
the fulfillment of that.
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It's amazing. It was amazing.
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So your faith was rewarded?
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Yeah. Yes.
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In that first year, we
saw a myriad of blessings.
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By the end of the first year,
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we amassed about
a million riders,
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which probably sounds
like a lot, but the transit...
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The Transit
Authority in New York City
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gets about 650
million riders a year.
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So we only had a bus, one bus,
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and a million riders
is probably a small dent
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in that number of ridership.
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But we were able to
develop a lot of relationships
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with community members.
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We even have
media outlets come out
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and do focus pieces on us.
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We had NPR, we had NYU.
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And we even came here to 3ABN.
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Yeah, Fox 5
News too, didn't you?
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Right, right.
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So lots of other interactions
with different media outlets
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and just people understanding
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what we do and how we're
trying to service our community.
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Yes, yes. That was amazing.
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And so, you had the
opportunity to minister
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to the individuals on
the bus and everything.
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And so, how did that take place?
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Like what did the ministry
part look like on the bus?
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Well, Mike was driving.
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And I was in the back talking
to any riders that we had.
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We implemented a prayer book.
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And so we would pray
with the people, talk to them,
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they'll tell us any
issues they're having.
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And they'll write
down prayer requests,
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and to the number one prayer...
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Two of the best prayer
requests that we've had.
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One is health, and the
second one is finances.
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And so, while being on the bus,
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we wanted to ask God
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how exactly to
practically help them
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with these issues.
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And... We started to pray.
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Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
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It's interesting because
you guys really implemented
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Christ method, you know.
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Ministry of Healing tells us,
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you know, really
focus on people's needs
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as you draw closer to them,
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then you can make
them follow Christ.
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Yes.
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And so we started digging
through the Bible, studying,
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digging through one
of our favorite books,
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Ministry of Healing.
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And the idea of a
cooking school came up.
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And that first year of ministry
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really allowed us to develop as,
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as we said before relationships,
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and one of the key
relationships developed
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was becoming ASI members.
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Okay.
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And becoming a member
in ASI was such a blessing,
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because we were
able to get support
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and mentorship
more than anything else.
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And so we brought this
idea of a cooking school
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to our ASI family and
asked for guidance with it.
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You know, what do
you think about it?
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How can we really
get this moving forward?
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Give us some counsel.
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And so with the
support of the president
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then Dr. Perry
and Elder Lance Wilbur
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from Pulse Cafe
in Massachusetts.
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It gave us a
tremendous amount of insight
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on how to actually
move this project forward.
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Yes.
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And so we started
the cooking school,
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October of 2016.
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And over the
span of eight weeks,
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we collaborated
with our local church.
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And we must have
had about 80 people
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coming out to
the cooking school.
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Wow, 80 people?
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Eighty people. So
what can people expect
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when they go to
the cooking school?
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So that was our biggest issue.
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We were thinking, well, Lord,
how would a cooking school look
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if Jesus was on this planet,
walking in our modern day?
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And so, we thought
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as we looked
into Jesus' ministry,
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how did He do things,
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and He had a
very practical element
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of how He did ministry.
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It wasn't always theoretical.
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And so we wanted to bring
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that practical aspect
into the cooking school.
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Okay.
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And so, the best
way we could show that
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is not just to demonstrate
to people how to cook,
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but to have them cooking
along with the demonstrator.
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Got you.
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And so we collaborated
with Heidi's Health Kitchen.
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We collaborated with
Vegan Nest, Pulse Cafe,
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a ton of other health ministries
00:17:14.00\00:17:15.43
in the area to
really try and support
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moving this project forward.
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And it was a blessing.
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So many people came out
and they were truly touched.
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And what about the
financial component?
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Because I know that you
said finances and health.
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What about the
financial component?
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How did you guys?
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So we noticed
that with the finances,
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it was tied to the health.
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Okay.
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In that why
people wanted more money
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to achieve more in their lives.
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A lot of it came at the
expense of their own health.
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And so, as we went through
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the surveys from
a cooking school,
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we noticed that
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there are a lot
of lifestyle diseases
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that were pulling
money from people's accounts,
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diseases like
diabetes, high blood pressure,
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high cholesterol,
all of these issues
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that God gave us the remedy
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for through
natural therapeutics,
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the herbs,
through lifestyle changes.
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This is the second component
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that was missing
from people's lives.
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So in other words, this,
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these aren't
necessarily hereditary problems,
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or diseases or
anything like that.
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This is like self
inflicted through diet,
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through lifestyle
things and so you guys
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are showing them
how to combat that.
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Right. Okay.
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And so, we said, "Lord,
how can we even go deeper?"
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And so, we noticed
that this was an issue.
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And so we said, "Lord,
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help us get some
training on this,
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some clinical herbal training,
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some training in hydrotherapy,
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and other therapeutics
can really support people's
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well being,
especially in New York City.
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Yes, yes.
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Where there's a
high stress area.
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Yes. Super stressful.
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Yeah. So people need that help.
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And so the cooking school
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ran for eight
weeks, tons of support.
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And people were truly blessed.
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So I want you to picture this.
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We had the bus going full time.
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And so we'd run the bus morning
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rush hour all the
way to evening rush hour,
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so that could be anywhere
between 5 am to probably 9 pm.
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We had the cooking school going.
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And so that mean a
cooking class once a week.
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And we were enrolled in
a clinical herbal program.
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And we also have Bible studies
going every Friday evening.
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And you also have your marriage?
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Right.
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How did you manage
all of these things?
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It was a lot. It was.
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It was a really stressful time.
00:19:49.62\00:19:51.55
And here we are trying to
help other people's health
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and our own health declining.
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Right Yeah, yeah.
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And so, we looked
at God and we said,
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Lord, we're overwhelmed,
00:20:02.00\00:20:04.33
we need some help.
00:20:04.37\00:20:06.00
And Luke 10 never became
00:20:06.03\00:20:08.27
even more real to us then,
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harvest is
plentiful, the laborers are few.
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Yeah.
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And we were coming back
from dropping some friends off.
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This is the
middle of December, 2016.
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And we were dropping them off
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at our friend's
upstate Eden Lifestyle.
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Yes. Very familiar with them.
00:20:23.72\00:20:26.72
And we were coming back in
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with the bus and
we were refueling,
00:20:28.16\00:20:29.72
so we pulled into a gas station.
00:20:29.76\00:20:32.06
And as we pulled
into the gas station,
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it was snowing outside.
00:20:33.80\00:20:35.86
And Joe and I
started to smell smoke.
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So... Oh, no.
00:20:40.37\00:20:42.30
We were a little taken aback.
00:20:42.34\00:20:44.31
We said, "Well,
it's a gas station.
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What's the chances? Right.
00:20:46.81\00:20:48.98
But the way the
bus was constructed,
00:20:49.01\00:20:50.65
the engine was
inside of the bus.
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So we lifted the hood.
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And as we lifted the hood,
a huge waft of smoke came out.
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Oh, no.
00:20:57.62\00:20:58.95
So Joe looked at me,
00:20:58.99\00:21:01.12
I looked at Joe,
we grabbed our coats.
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And we just ran out.
We ran out of the bus.
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We left
everything else on the bus.
00:21:05.99\00:21:07.86
Everything. Wow, I
think, you know what?
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I think we have
a video of the bus
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that we want to show.
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It was a bitter moment. Yeah.
00:21:14.07\00:21:17.67
Just standing there
and watching the bus
00:21:17.71\00:21:21.48
in the gas station
right next to a gas pump
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in flames.
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Yeah.
00:21:25.71\00:21:27.05
And so we alerted the attendant
00:21:27.08\00:21:28.42
and we let the
attendant know that
00:21:28.45\00:21:30.69
there was a fire in progress.
00:21:30.72\00:21:33.32
He pressed the safe safety valve
00:21:33.36\00:21:35.46
to kind of ensure
some safety measures,
00:21:35.49\00:21:37.06
but we waited
for the greater part
00:21:37.09\00:21:38.79
of half an hour
before the firemen
00:21:38.83\00:21:41.50
were able to show up
and put out the flames.
00:21:41.53\00:21:43.90
Wait a minute,
you waited how long?
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About half an
hour. Half an hour.
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Wow, that was a
long response time.
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Yeah.
00:21:49.54\00:21:50.87
But when the firemen came,
00:21:50.91\00:21:52.97
they showed us the
fire pattern in the bus.
00:21:53.01\00:21:57.78
And Mike's
driver's seat wasn't burned.
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Our books weren't burn.
00:22:01.55\00:22:03.95
None of the
passenger seats were burned.
00:22:03.99\00:22:06.22
And so, we just knew that
00:22:06.25\00:22:08.72
God was still in the blessing...
00:22:08.76\00:22:10.39
Yeah.
00:22:10.43\00:22:11.76
Even though it
just looked, you know...
00:22:11.79\00:22:13.70
It looked bad. Yeah.
00:22:13.73\00:22:15.06
God still was protecting. Yeah.
00:22:15.10\00:22:17.73
Not one Bible
burned. And we were just...
00:22:17.77\00:22:20.74
We were just so surprised.
We're saying, "Lord, thank you.
00:22:20.77\00:22:23.81
You know, even
amidst that bitter moment,
00:22:23.84\00:22:25.87
there was that
peace that you know,
00:22:25.91\00:22:27.24
He will never leave us,
He will never forsake us.
00:22:27.28\00:22:29.28
Yeah.
00:22:29.31\00:22:30.65
So um... It was challenging.
00:22:30.68\00:22:34.75
For the next few weeks,
00:22:34.78\00:22:36.12
we received a lot of
support from our ASI family,
00:22:36.15\00:22:40.12
our local church to community,
00:22:40.16\00:22:42.46
everyone wanted us to
get back out on the road
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and see this ministry continue.
00:22:45.19\00:22:46.56
Yes.
00:22:46.59\00:22:47.93
But our question was,
00:22:47.96\00:22:50.00
well, Lord, You
allow this bus to burn.
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What is the message that
You really want to get to us?
00:22:53.54\00:22:57.17
As much as we want it
to get back on the road,
00:22:57.21\00:22:59.97
we really had to be honest
and ask God what He wanted us?
00:23:00.01\00:23:04.21
What He want us to do? Yes.
00:23:04.25\00:23:06.55
And around that time,
Elder Lance from Pulse Cafe.
00:23:06.58\00:23:10.05
Uh-huh.
00:23:10.09\00:23:11.42
He also does True Knowledge
of Self on Dare to Dream.
00:23:11.45\00:23:13.19
Yeah, Elder Lance.
00:23:13.22\00:23:14.56
So he sent us a
dissertation from Ted Wilson,
00:23:14.59\00:23:18.59
Elder Ted Wilson, the president.
00:23:18.63\00:23:20.60
And this dissertation was made
00:23:20.63\00:23:22.83
way before I
was even thought of.
00:23:22.86\00:23:26.30
But, um, it was a
beautiful dissertation
00:23:26.33\00:23:27.90
on urban
evangelism in New York City.
00:23:27.94\00:23:31.21
And so we combed
through this dissertation.
00:23:31.24\00:23:34.34
And we looked at
each one of the aspects
00:23:34.38\00:23:39.11
of urban evangelism
00:23:39.15\00:23:40.92
that was
outlined using the Bible
00:23:40.95\00:23:43.75
and the Spirit of Prophecy.
00:23:43.79\00:23:45.32
And we've realized that
God wanted something specific
00:23:45.35\00:23:49.52
done in New York City.
00:23:49.56\00:23:51.49
He wanted health evangelism
to be the primary goal
00:23:51.53\00:23:55.16
of reaching the people.
00:23:55.20\00:23:57.13
And as we sat back
and reflected on it,
00:23:57.17\00:23:58.97
Jason, we said,
well, we noticed that
00:23:59.00\00:24:01.64
God was taking
us in this direction
00:24:01.67\00:24:03.47
even before this tragedy,
00:24:03.51\00:24:06.51
helping us with
food distribution,
00:24:06.54\00:24:08.44
helping us start
the cooking school...
00:24:08.48\00:24:10.85
Clothes distribution.
00:24:10.88\00:24:12.21
Clothes distribution,
00:24:12.25\00:24:13.58
everything was
geared towards health.
00:24:13.62\00:24:15.52
And so, we doubled down
for the next couple of weeks
00:24:15.55\00:24:19.15
and months we doubled down on,
00:24:19.19\00:24:21.09
you know, doing more
health evangelistic classes,
00:24:21.12\00:24:23.86
more wellness
lectures, meeting more people.
00:24:23.89\00:24:27.66
And we were
able to, as a result,
00:24:27.70\00:24:31.73
link with our
local borough president,
00:24:31.77\00:24:35.20
and really
broadcast to the community,
00:24:35.24\00:24:37.61
the services and opportunities
00:24:37.64\00:24:39.61
that we have to try
and enrich people's lives.
00:24:39.64\00:24:42.51
Yeah. Yeah.
00:24:42.54\00:24:44.25
I want to go
back just a little bit
00:24:44.28\00:24:47.02
because you said something
00:24:47.05\00:24:48.38
that just really,
really grabbed me.
00:24:48.42\00:24:50.99
And that was the fact
00:24:51.02\00:24:52.35
that you were
looking for the lesson
00:24:52.39\00:24:54.56
that was in the trial.
00:24:54.59\00:24:55.92
Yeah.
00:24:55.96\00:24:57.29
You know,
oftentimes we go through things
00:24:57.33\00:24:58.66
and we're just like,
"Oh, this is horrible,
00:24:58.69\00:25:00.10
I can't believe
I'm dealing with this."
00:25:00.13\00:25:01.76
I can't, you know,
murmuring and complaining.
00:25:01.80\00:25:03.53
Yeah.
00:25:03.57\00:25:04.90
But how many times do we stop
00:25:04.93\00:25:06.27
and take a look to see
00:25:06.30\00:25:08.20
what lesson God is
trying to teach us?
00:25:08.24\00:25:10.94
I think that was...
00:25:10.97\00:25:12.64
That says a lot, you know.
00:25:12.67\00:25:14.51
And it was tough
00:25:14.54\00:25:15.88
just because
you're put in a position
00:25:15.91\00:25:18.08
where you have to
put yourself aside.
00:25:18.11\00:25:20.68
Yeah.
00:25:20.72\00:25:22.05
And if you're truly
wanting to follow God
00:25:22.08\00:25:23.65
in whatever He's
asking you to do,
00:25:23.69\00:25:26.15
we submit to Him
because we love Him.
00:25:26.19\00:25:27.92
We know that He
knows better than we do.
00:25:27.96\00:25:29.49
Yes.
00:25:29.52\00:25:30.86
And so, He was taking us
in this different direction.
00:25:30.89\00:25:33.09
And it was exciting
00:25:33.13\00:25:34.46
because we were so
used to the bus by now.
00:25:34.50\00:25:39.43
It was a great
deal of what we do,
00:25:39.47\00:25:41.74
how we connect with people.
00:25:41.77\00:25:43.51
And now God was taking us
00:25:43.54\00:25:44.87
in a totally
different direction.
00:25:44.91\00:25:47.34
And so with that
came some challenges.
00:25:47.38\00:25:49.34
I'm trying to figure
out how we would do this.
00:25:49.38\00:25:52.55
Remember, by this time,
00:25:52.58\00:25:55.02
we had seen over 3.5
million riders on the bus.
00:25:55.05\00:25:58.89
And so we were thinking, Lord,
00:25:58.92\00:26:00.49
how can we duplicate
this kind of effectiveness?
00:26:00.52\00:26:03.22
Yes.
00:26:03.26\00:26:04.59
And we found that
God also is interested
00:26:04.63\00:26:08.23
in quantity as much as
He's interested in quality.
00:26:08.26\00:26:11.57
That's right.
00:26:11.60\00:26:12.93
And so God
wanted us to, you know,
00:26:12.97\00:26:14.74
move in this direction.
00:26:14.77\00:26:16.50
And as we were
having students coming in,
00:26:16.54\00:26:19.37
one of our students said,
00:26:19.41\00:26:20.74
"Do you mind if I share
this with my co-workers,
00:26:20.78\00:26:24.65
this cooking school?
00:26:24.68\00:26:26.01
I've learned so much."
00:26:26.05\00:26:27.38
And we were saying,
"Okay, we don't have a problem.
00:26:27.42\00:26:29.58
Tell as many
people as you like."
00:26:29.62\00:26:30.95
Yeah.
00:26:30.99\00:26:32.32
And his co-workers
happen to be members at Fox 5.
00:26:32.35\00:26:37.23
Wow! It was a blessing.
00:26:37.26\00:26:40.26
They came in with their cameras,
00:26:40.30\00:26:41.66
and they filmed
what we actually did.
00:26:41.70\00:26:43.57
Wow!
00:26:43.60\00:26:44.93
And it got us
even more exposure.
00:26:44.97\00:26:47.84
So many more people came
00:26:47.87\00:26:49.70
to the cooking
school as a result.
00:26:49.74\00:26:51.31
Wow!
00:26:51.34\00:26:52.67
And it's been a
blessing ever since.
00:26:52.71\00:26:54.38
Yeah, yeah.
00:26:54.41\00:26:55.74
So God just continues
00:26:55.78\00:26:57.21
to help you guys to be effective
00:26:57.25\00:27:00.02
and to reach like a
wide variety of people,
00:27:00.05\00:27:04.02
and that also goes to
show that you don't know
00:27:04.05\00:27:06.22
who you're
coming in contact with,
00:27:06.25\00:27:07.96
you don't know who
you're dealing with.
00:27:07.99\00:27:09.32
You had no idea.
00:27:09.36\00:27:10.69
You know, you always have
to put your best foot forward.
00:27:10.73\00:27:13.46
So that, yeah,
that's, that's amazing.
00:27:13.50\00:27:15.53
It was great.
00:27:15.56\00:27:16.90
And so we're saying, Lord,
thank You for showing us that
00:27:16.93\00:27:19.97
because sometimes in
our own finite minds,
00:27:20.00\00:27:22.40
we can't see the
end from the beginning.
00:27:22.44\00:27:24.41
Yeah.
00:27:24.44\00:27:25.77
We know that
God definitely knows
00:27:25.81\00:27:27.14
how things will progress.
00:27:27.18\00:27:28.51
Yes.
00:27:28.54\00:27:29.88
And so, we continued
opening up to our community now,
00:27:29.91\00:27:32.68
wellness consultations,
00:27:32.71\00:27:34.42
and being able to help them
00:27:34.45\00:27:35.78
with the
lifestyle challenges that,
00:27:35.82\00:27:37.45
you know, so many
people are facing,
00:27:37.49\00:27:38.82
especially in New York City.
00:27:38.85\00:27:40.19
Yeah.
00:27:40.22\00:27:41.56
You would think with a city
that has so many opportunities
00:27:41.59\00:27:44.73
and amenities that
people would be healthier,
00:27:44.76\00:27:47.36
but it's the direct opposite.
00:27:47.40\00:27:49.00
Yeah. Woeful choices and...
00:27:49.03\00:27:53.57
I mean, everything so
expensive in New York,
00:27:53.60\00:27:56.30
you know, like
the cost of living.
00:27:56.34\00:27:58.84
Everything is so expensive
and you're on the go so much.
00:27:58.87\00:28:02.18
It's just hustle and bustle.
00:28:02.21\00:28:03.85
And so when you're rushing,
you know, what kind of tips,
00:28:03.88\00:28:08.05
you know, to put you
on the spot right now.
00:28:08.08\00:28:09.95
What kind of tips
do you have for that,
00:28:09.98\00:28:11.72
that person that's out there
00:28:11.75\00:28:13.09
that maybe on
the go all the time?
00:28:13.12\00:28:15.49
How can they still
maintain a healthy diet?
00:28:15.52\00:28:18.26
It's simple.
00:28:18.29\00:28:19.63
God gives us the
remedy in Genesis Chapter 1,
00:28:19.66\00:28:22.46
He gives us a plant-based diet.
00:28:22.50\00:28:24.23
And this plant-based diet
00:28:24.27\00:28:25.60
really helps not just
with our physical body,
00:28:25.63\00:28:28.40
but also helps with our mind.
00:28:28.44\00:28:30.27
And in an
environment like New York City
00:28:30.31\00:28:32.34
where everything is fast paced,
00:28:32.37\00:28:35.44
people really need
to be able to slow down
00:28:35.48\00:28:38.28
and not consume the
foods that would, you know,
00:28:38.31\00:28:40.88
take them out of
that peace of mind,
00:28:40.92\00:28:42.88
but also take
their body out of shape.
00:28:42.92\00:28:45.25
So first tip I would give
00:28:45.29\00:28:47.92
is to start
implementing more fruits
00:28:47.96\00:28:50.06
and more
vegetables into your diet.
00:28:50.09\00:28:51.69
Yeah, 'cause it doesn't
take, you don't have to prepare
00:28:51.73\00:28:53.70
that per se, yeah.
00:28:53.73\00:28:55.06
Exactly. Yeah.
00:28:55.10\00:28:56.43
Just some fresh
fruits, some fresh vegetables.
00:28:56.46\00:28:58.77
It will do a myriad of
things for you that, you know,
00:28:58.80\00:29:02.50
otherwise you wouldn't get.
00:29:02.54\00:29:03.87
Yeah.
00:29:03.91\00:29:05.24
Also preparation,
00:29:05.27\00:29:07.91
always prepare ahead
so you don't have to rush.
00:29:07.94\00:29:12.88
Because we rush so much
is because we just don't have
00:29:12.91\00:29:15.25
the preparation in mind,
so that's always necessary.
00:29:15.28\00:29:18.55
Yes. That's an excellent point.
00:29:18.59\00:29:21.22
I want to hear a
little bit more from you.
00:29:21.26\00:29:23.53
What does your day look like?
00:29:23.56\00:29:25.73
Like what's the day
in your life look like?
00:29:25.76\00:29:28.13
Um, well, of course, we
do worship in the mornings,
00:29:28.16\00:29:33.00
exercise, and we
get our day started
00:29:33.03\00:29:36.64
with answering
any calls, emails.
00:29:36.67\00:29:40.64
If we have a
cooking school at the time,
00:29:40.68\00:29:44.71
we have to shop for ingredients.
00:29:44.75\00:29:48.35
We have to
sometimes the recipe test,
00:29:48.38\00:29:51.85
that includes burning things
I could, a lot of mistakes,
00:29:51.89\00:29:56.96
but you figure
things out by God's grace.
00:29:56.99\00:30:00.10
And we get that together.
00:30:00.13\00:30:03.50
We do health
consultations as well.
00:30:03.53\00:30:05.70
And so, we have
to make sure that
00:30:05.73\00:30:07.84
we have our book together
00:30:07.87\00:30:12.14
and meet with
those people as well,
00:30:12.17\00:30:16.34
get protocols together
and so it's a pretty busy day.
00:30:16.38\00:30:20.95
Yeah.
00:30:20.98\00:30:22.32
Sometimes we have late nights,
00:30:22.35\00:30:23.69
but you know, God
has been in helping us.
00:30:23.72\00:30:28.06
How is it being in
ministry with your husband?
00:30:28.09\00:30:31.06
Like, how is that you
know, you guys together?
00:30:31.09\00:30:33.83
What is that like? Um,
I see him all the time.
00:30:33.86\00:30:36.93
That's a blessing anyway.
00:30:40.17\00:30:42.04
This might be her
chance to get even.
00:30:42.07\00:30:43.81
I think we play
well off of each other.
00:30:46.91\00:30:49.91
And so it helps my
weaknesses as well as his.
00:30:49.94\00:30:53.98
All right.
00:30:54.02\00:30:55.58
So you've got
the cooking classes,
00:30:55.62\00:30:57.05
you've got the
consultations, you're, you know,
00:30:57.09\00:30:59.02
teaching people
00:30:59.05\00:31:00.39
how to lead
healthier lifestyles.
00:31:00.42\00:31:02.62
What are some testimonials
00:31:02.66\00:31:04.59
or success stories
that you can share?
00:31:04.63\00:31:07.76
Well, one with Fox 5
coming that was, that was huge,
00:31:07.80\00:31:11.50
being able to reach
00:31:11.53\00:31:13.10
a whole new
demographic of people.
00:31:13.13\00:31:14.50
Yes.
00:31:14.54\00:31:15.97
Especially in this day and age
00:31:16.00\00:31:17.34
where it's a little bit
harder to knock on every door
00:31:17.37\00:31:19.81
and share what
you do with people,
00:31:19.84\00:31:21.81
getting your story
and your mission out
00:31:21.84\00:31:23.75
to a large group of
people is paramount.
00:31:23.78\00:31:27.78
Yeah. So that was huge.
00:31:27.82\00:31:30.59
Another one has been
00:31:30.62\00:31:31.95
able to connect
with local groups,
00:31:31.99\00:31:33.76
you know, especially
00:31:33.79\00:31:35.22
the borough president and other,
00:31:35.26\00:31:37.96
you know, community groups
00:31:37.99\00:31:39.39
that are interested in health,
00:31:39.43\00:31:41.00
but are not really seeing
00:31:41.03\00:31:42.36
the correlation
between faith and health.
00:31:42.40\00:31:44.97
And that's been
so such a blessing
00:31:45.00\00:31:47.57
being able to bring people
00:31:47.60\00:31:48.94
in from different walks of life.
00:31:48.97\00:31:50.31
Yeah, yeah.
00:31:50.34\00:31:51.67
And being able to
share with them the gospel.
00:31:51.71\00:31:53.54
Yes.
00:31:53.58\00:31:54.91
Because it's
deeper than the food.
00:31:54.94\00:31:56.28
Absolutely.
00:31:56.31\00:31:57.65
And it's like, if
you can teach somebody
00:31:57.68\00:31:59.01
how to be healthy,
but if there's not that
00:31:59.05\00:32:00.65
spiritual component,
00:32:00.68\00:32:02.92
I mean, you're
missing the point,
00:32:02.95\00:32:05.05
the main
message, the main message.
00:32:05.09\00:32:07.62
We have some more pictures
that I want us to look at.
00:32:07.66\00:32:10.33
And you can just tell us briefly
00:32:10.36\00:32:11.69
what's going on
in each one of those?
00:32:11.73\00:32:14.16
Ah, this is our street team.
00:32:14.20\00:32:16.46
So as a part, as,
00:32:16.50\00:32:19.47
as we continue with
this health evangelism,
00:32:19.50\00:32:21.77
we've been doing
Bible studies every week,
00:32:21.80\00:32:24.11
every Friday evening, we
call it Pillars and Fillers.
00:32:24.14\00:32:26.61
Okay.
00:32:26.64\00:32:27.98
I like that,
Pillars and Fillers.
00:32:28.01\00:32:30.78
We have, we talk about
the pillars of our faith,
00:32:30.81\00:32:33.08
but we also have fillers
00:32:33.11\00:32:34.45
where we talk about
stories in the Bible,
00:32:34.48\00:32:36.22
to kind of
support those pillars.
00:32:36.25\00:32:38.39
But we also call it fillers
00:32:38.42\00:32:39.75
because we do have
some healthy snacks
00:32:39.79\00:32:41.22
for our guests to grab.
00:32:41.26\00:32:44.03
And so we have,
we talk a lot about
00:32:44.06\00:32:46.70
what God's plan is for our life,
00:32:46.73\00:32:48.46
the plan of salvation.
00:32:48.50\00:32:50.40
And as a result, we...
00:32:50.43\00:32:51.90
There's an action part of it,
00:32:51.93\00:32:53.47
the practical component,
00:32:53.50\00:32:54.84
we can go out into the community
00:32:54.87\00:32:56.20
and we share the
everlasting gospel
00:32:56.24\00:32:58.31
with them.
00:32:58.34\00:32:59.67
And so part of that is
literature distribution.
00:32:59.71\00:33:01.14
Okay.
00:33:01.18\00:33:02.54
Not too far
from our home church,
00:33:02.58\00:33:04.58
Hanson Place, the
Barclay Center was built.
00:33:04.61\00:33:06.82
Okay.
00:33:06.85\00:33:08.78
So it attracts lots of people
from all over New York City
00:33:08.82\00:33:12.29
for different events,
00:33:12.32\00:33:13.66
whether it be
sports events or concerts,
00:33:13.69\00:33:15.72
and we use that as a
beautiful opportunity
00:33:15.76\00:33:17.63
to share God's
Word through literature.
00:33:17.66\00:33:19.79
Yes.
00:33:19.83\00:33:21.30
Also, we hand out DVDs and books
00:33:21.33\00:33:23.47
and all kinds of media
to get people to understand
00:33:23.50\00:33:26.94
what the everlasting gospel is.
00:33:26.97\00:33:28.30
Yeah.
00:33:28.34\00:33:29.67
Have you found that people
00:33:29.70\00:33:31.04
are becoming a little
bit more receptive to it now?
00:33:31.07\00:33:34.81
Or what do you see?
00:33:34.84\00:33:36.91
Yeah, we're seeing a lot
more people being receptive,
00:33:36.95\00:33:39.95
especially using
like glow tracks.
00:33:39.98\00:33:41.75
Yeah. Those are just gems.
00:33:41.78\00:33:43.69
Yes.
00:33:43.72\00:33:45.05
We're able to get those out
00:33:45.09\00:33:46.42
and really share with
people in a concise manner,
00:33:46.45\00:33:50.03
whatever message
we're trying to get through
00:33:50.06\00:33:51.59
to them at that time.
00:33:51.63\00:33:52.96
Got you. People
are really receptive.
00:33:52.99\00:33:55.03
Good, good. Yeah.
00:33:55.06\00:33:56.40
I mean, there's so much
going on in the world today.
00:33:56.43\00:33:58.63
You know, people have
questions and they're searching.
00:33:58.67\00:34:01.90
And it's a prime
opportunity to witness to them.
00:34:01.94\00:34:05.84
So that's, that's amazing.
00:34:05.87\00:34:08.04
Now, we also have some
more pictures that I want to,
00:34:08.08\00:34:10.41
I want to go through these,
I want to see these pictures.
00:34:10.45\00:34:12.95
You guys have some stories.
00:34:12.98\00:34:14.58
Ah, so this is with
our first eight weeks
00:34:14.62\00:34:17.35
to wellness
cooking class series.
00:34:17.39\00:34:20.02
And we, like we said before
00:34:20.06\00:34:21.42
we collaborate
with our ASI family.
00:34:21.46\00:34:23.73
And one of them is a
Heidi's Health Kitchen.
00:34:23.76\00:34:25.53
They taught some
classes there for us.
00:34:25.56\00:34:27.90
And that was huge,
just being able to,
00:34:27.93\00:34:30.93
again, collaborate
00:34:30.97\00:34:32.30
with all of the
ministries in the area
00:34:32.33\00:34:34.90
and really move
forward the work.
00:34:34.94\00:34:36.27
We believe there's
strength in numbers.
00:34:36.30\00:34:37.94
And if we're not united,
then we really are limiting
00:34:37.97\00:34:42.24
our reach for the gospel.
00:34:42.28\00:34:44.31
Yeah, and I like that too
00:34:44.35\00:34:45.78
because it's like
you're working together
00:34:45.81\00:34:48.42
because the goal is
to win souls for Christ.
00:34:48.45\00:34:51.42
That's it. That's
the ultimate goal.
00:34:51.45\00:34:53.09
That's it. Yeah.
00:34:53.12\00:34:54.46
So...
00:34:54.49\00:34:55.82
Ah, this is our,
00:34:55.86\00:34:57.26
what the layout
of our cooking class
00:34:57.29\00:34:58.73
would look like.
00:34:58.76\00:35:00.23
So people are
actually cutting and cooking.
00:35:00.26\00:35:03.60
And it's hands on,
it's very hands on.
00:35:03.63\00:35:06.90
And we're also attributing
to that practical component,
00:35:06.94\00:35:10.61
some education as well.
00:35:10.64\00:35:12.21
So teaching people
00:35:12.24\00:35:13.58
what the ingredients are
that they're actually using.
00:35:13.61\00:35:16.31
So whether it be
garlic, or lemon, or thyme,
00:35:16.34\00:35:21.38
whatever they're using,
00:35:21.42\00:35:22.75
understanding
why they're using it,
00:35:22.78\00:35:24.22
but then attaching a
spiritual connotation
00:35:24.25\00:35:26.59
to it as well.
00:35:26.62\00:35:27.96
Now, do you guys also have
00:35:27.99\00:35:29.32
like the health
benefits of each item
00:35:29.36\00:35:33.70
per se as much as you can?
00:35:33.73\00:35:35.06
Yeah, yeah.
00:35:35.10\00:35:36.43
And let people know the
benefit of following God's plan.
00:35:36.46\00:35:38.53
Amen. Amen.
00:35:38.57\00:35:40.90
And so what has been
some of the responses
00:35:40.94\00:35:42.70
and feedback from
the cooking classes?
00:35:42.74\00:35:44.74
It's been huge.
00:35:44.77\00:35:46.94
We've even been able
to work with local schools
00:35:46.98\00:35:49.28
and universities,
because they've seen
00:35:49.31\00:35:51.98
how us reaching the community
has had a profound effect.
00:35:52.01\00:35:55.85
So we've gone to
local universities
00:35:55.88\00:35:57.62
and done teaching
00:35:57.65\00:35:59.39
for the students
there but also for staff.
00:35:59.42\00:36:02.46
So I'm just sharing that
00:36:02.49\00:36:04.29
there's a connection
between faith and food.
00:36:04.33\00:36:06.19
Wow!
00:36:06.23\00:36:07.56
So you've gone to
a local university.
00:36:07.60\00:36:08.93
Now are these
public universities?
00:36:08.96\00:36:10.50
Public universities.
Wow! So that's huge.
00:36:10.53\00:36:13.84
God is
basically just saying like
00:36:13.87\00:36:16.24
He wants to reach His people,
00:36:16.27\00:36:18.51
He wants to reach the people,
and He wants to save them.
00:36:18.54\00:36:21.48
He does.
00:36:21.51\00:36:22.84
And so you guys are entering
in the public universities,
00:36:22.88\00:36:26.45
grabbing people off
the street everywhere.
00:36:26.48\00:36:28.65
Yeah.
00:36:28.68\00:36:30.02
That is
awesome. That is awesome.
00:36:30.05\00:36:31.69
So it's a donation
based cooking class program.
00:36:31.72\00:36:34.76
And so as people are
blessed, they, and they enjoy
00:36:34.79\00:36:38.59
with the
environment and the lessons
00:36:38.63\00:36:41.10
that we're trying to
get through people support,
00:36:41.13\00:36:43.77
and we're able to
move the project forward.
00:36:43.80\00:36:46.00
Yes.
00:36:46.03\00:36:47.37
And it's the same principle
that we've used with the bus.
00:36:47.40\00:36:49.60
Matthew 10 says,
00:36:49.64\00:36:50.97
"As freely we
receive freely we give."
00:36:51.01\00:36:53.11
Amen.
00:36:53.14\00:36:54.48
And that's our motto
as we move it forward.
00:36:54.51\00:36:56.01
Amen.
00:36:56.04\00:36:57.38
Now, were you always good
in the kitchen or I mean...
00:36:57.41\00:37:01.88
I'll be honest.
00:37:01.92\00:37:05.55
I wasn't always the
best in the kitchen.
00:37:05.59\00:37:07.12
Okay, okay.
00:37:07.16\00:37:08.49
I still don't
think I'm the best.
00:37:08.52\00:37:10.56
But, you know,
with trial and error,
00:37:10.59\00:37:13.63
you learn as you progress
00:37:13.66\00:37:15.20
and I'm a little bit
better than I was to begin with.
00:37:15.23\00:37:18.30
Okay, okay.
00:37:18.33\00:37:19.87
He does well in the kitchen.
He does well in the kitchen.
00:37:19.90\00:37:21.77
He does. He does.
00:37:21.80\00:37:23.20
Yeah, he has a mean lasagna.
00:37:23.24\00:37:25.31
All right. He does.
00:37:25.34\00:37:26.88
Okay. Nice, nice.
I like it so much.
00:37:26.91\00:37:29.78
I'm well with the baking,
he's well with the cooking.
00:37:29.81\00:37:32.08
Oh, so you're good at baking.
00:37:32.11\00:37:34.18
Okay, okay. Nice, nice.
00:37:34.22\00:37:37.12
We actually have
another food video.
00:37:37.15\00:37:40.19
Okay. Well, let's go to that.
00:37:40.22\00:37:41.92
Let's take a look at that now.
00:37:41.96\00:37:44.06
So this is probably
00:37:44.09\00:37:45.43
how a typical
setup would look like.
00:37:45.46\00:37:47.33
We have a lot of the
fresh vegetables and foods,
00:37:47.36\00:37:50.07
and our clients
come in different
00:37:50.10\00:37:52.70
from the community,
from the church, wherever.
00:37:52.73\00:37:55.27
And we have them
actually source their own food,
00:37:55.30\00:37:58.44
similar if they were in
a grocery or supermarket.
00:37:58.47\00:38:01.54
And they measure out.
00:38:01.58\00:38:03.65
So we have bowls, and pots,
00:38:03.68\00:38:05.31
and pans, and
burners for everyone.
00:38:05.35\00:38:07.38
And we're actually
making the recipe in real time.
00:38:07.42\00:38:11.32
And so we looked at
the Ministry of Healing
00:38:11.35\00:38:14.32
and saw some principles,
00:38:14.36\00:38:15.72
that the food
should be affordable,
00:38:15.76\00:38:17.63
it should be accessible,
it should be healthy.
00:38:17.66\00:38:20.20
It should be palatable,
some really tasty food.
00:38:20.23\00:38:23.03
And so we use these principles
in making simple dishes
00:38:23.06\00:38:26.23
that wouldn't
just nourish the body
00:38:26.27\00:38:28.00
but just also the mind.
00:38:28.04\00:38:29.47
Yes. And community is built.
00:38:29.50\00:38:31.61
So many people come in
contact with each other
00:38:31.64\00:38:34.21
that probably
wouldn't talk even though
00:38:34.24\00:38:36.81
they live
probably on the same block,
00:38:36.85\00:38:38.75
on the same neighborhood.
00:38:38.78\00:38:40.12
We're able to bring them closer
00:38:40.15\00:38:43.28
by just uplifting
God and His principles.
00:38:43.32\00:38:44.92
Amen.
00:38:44.95\00:38:46.29
I'll tell you what,
that food looks delicious.
00:38:46.32\00:38:48.92
And now I'm
hungry. Now, I am hungry.
00:38:48.96\00:38:53.56
You touched on something about,
00:38:53.60\00:38:56.30
you know,
finding inexpensive food.
00:38:56.33\00:38:58.63
A lot of times people think,
00:38:58.67\00:39:00.00
well, it's so
expensive to eat healthy.
00:39:00.04\00:39:02.10
That's what you
hear all the time.
00:39:02.14\00:39:03.81
What are some
things that people can do
00:39:03.84\00:39:06.14
to where they can
make it affordable
00:39:06.17\00:39:08.38
for themselves?
00:39:08.41\00:39:09.74
Really source organic
food, but you can get this
00:39:09.78\00:39:13.25
from your local supermarket.
00:39:13.28\00:39:15.12
We've seen it in Walmart,
00:39:15.15\00:39:16.95
we've seen it in
ShopRite, different,
00:39:16.99\00:39:19.39
different local
grocery supermarkets,
00:39:19.42\00:39:22.22
they have good food,
00:39:22.26\00:39:24.23
but what tends to
happen is people tend to go
00:39:24.26\00:39:27.06
to the other
aisles in the supermarket
00:39:27.10\00:39:29.26
that has food and everything,
00:39:29.30\00:39:31.20
and kind of leave
the fresh vegetables
00:39:31.23\00:39:32.97
and fruits by themselves.
00:39:33.00\00:39:35.10
So if we tap more into that
00:39:35.14\00:39:37.31
is a wealth of
health and nutrients
00:39:37.34\00:39:40.04
just in that section.
00:39:40.08\00:39:41.54
Yes, yes.
00:39:41.58\00:39:43.08
Just eat as fresh as you can.
00:39:43.11\00:39:45.55
Fresh is best. Yeah.
00:39:45.58\00:39:46.92
That's right. That's right.
00:39:46.95\00:39:48.95
Have you always been
like this, this healthy guy?
00:39:48.98\00:39:52.95
I'll be honest. I've
always been plant-based.
00:39:52.99\00:39:57.19
Okay.
00:39:57.23\00:39:58.56
I've been raised
plant-based since birth.
00:39:58.59\00:40:00.06
Okay.
00:40:00.10\00:40:01.43
So I've never had any
meat, never had any dairy
00:40:01.46\00:40:04.47
or any dairy products.
00:40:04.50\00:40:06.77
And so this is
all I know. Got you.
00:40:06.80\00:40:08.37
It was interesting that
00:40:08.40\00:40:09.74
God kind of brought me
back into something that.
00:40:09.77\00:40:11.34
Yeah.
00:40:11.37\00:40:12.71
But taking me a step further,
00:40:12.74\00:40:14.44
let me understand
the spiritual component,
00:40:14.48\00:40:17.21
that is not just about the food.
00:40:17.25\00:40:19.25
Yes.
00:40:19.28\00:40:20.62
It's about our
connection with Him.
00:40:20.65\00:40:21.98
Yes.
00:40:22.02\00:40:23.35
Now, Joanna, where
does your passion stem
00:40:23.39\00:40:25.12
from in all of this?
00:40:25.15\00:40:28.06
My mom has had me in the kitchen
00:40:28.09\00:40:30.89
from when I was really young.
00:40:30.93\00:40:34.23
And so it, just like he said,
00:40:34.26\00:40:37.13
it kind of came
back full circle to now
00:40:37.17\00:40:40.17
we have a cooking school
00:40:40.20\00:40:41.60
and now I'm baking the same way
00:40:41.64\00:40:44.57
she used to teach me to bake,
00:40:44.61\00:40:46.94
and it's just a blessing.
00:40:46.98\00:40:49.74
Yeah, His face lit up
00:40:49.78\00:40:51.45
when you say you're
baking so it must be...
00:40:51.48\00:40:53.98
It must be delicious.
00:40:54.02\00:40:55.62
Some good food, Jason. Yes, yes.
00:40:55.65\00:40:58.19
Amen.
00:40:58.22\00:40:59.55
It's amazing how God works
00:40:59.59\00:41:00.92
because He
brought you two together,
00:41:00.96\00:41:02.99
and you're in ministry together.
00:41:03.02\00:41:04.96
But, you know,
you both complement
00:41:04.99\00:41:07.53
each other so well.
00:41:07.56\00:41:09.76
So it's just amazing to see
00:41:09.80\00:41:11.53
that dynamic and
see how God orchestrated
00:41:11.57\00:41:14.44
the whole thing.
00:41:14.47\00:41:15.80
Yeah.
00:41:15.84\00:41:17.17
He gets all the
praise, all the credit.
00:41:17.21\00:41:19.41
And we're just so
thankful just to be together,
00:41:19.44\00:41:22.14
but also with a team,
00:41:22.18\00:41:24.08
you know 'cause
it's really not just us,
00:41:24.11\00:41:25.95
it's a team of us that
00:41:25.98\00:41:27.32
really move this project forward
00:41:27.35\00:41:28.85
and God's
mission in New York City.
00:41:28.88\00:41:30.72
And moving forward,
God has been impressing us
00:41:30.75\00:41:33.69
on our hearts
lately to really unite
00:41:33.72\00:41:37.26
and really train as many people
as we can in this line of work,
00:41:37.29\00:41:40.16
because there's a field
of work that's untapped.
00:41:40.20\00:41:42.80
Yes.
00:41:42.83\00:41:44.17
And people, whether you're
rich or poor, young or old,
00:41:44.20\00:41:47.90
everyone is
interested in health.
00:41:47.94\00:41:49.40
Yes.
00:41:49.44\00:41:50.77
And so, that's our mission
and our plan moving forward.
00:41:50.81\00:41:54.78
We really want
to help teach people
00:41:54.81\00:41:56.34
what we have been
experienced and exposed to.
00:41:56.38\00:41:58.91
Yeah.
00:41:58.95\00:42:00.28
You know, it's, when
you think about the cost,
00:42:00.32\00:42:03.28
when you think about the price,
00:42:03.32\00:42:05.49
it's a lot cheaper
to eat healthier than
00:42:05.52\00:42:07.42
it is to pay that
medical bill that you receive
00:42:07.46\00:42:09.79
after you get
out of that hospital.
00:42:09.82\00:42:12.46
A lot cheaper to do it that way.
00:42:12.49\00:42:14.16
It is. Yeah, yeah.
00:42:14.20\00:42:16.00
So what's next for
The 7th Scroll ministry?
00:42:16.03\00:42:19.43
Like we said, we
really want to teach more.
00:42:19.47\00:42:22.57
Share what God
has blessed us with,
00:42:22.60\00:42:24.34
the wealth of knowledge
00:42:24.37\00:42:25.71
and even experience with people,
00:42:25.74\00:42:28.61
as many people as we can.
00:42:28.64\00:42:30.65
We believe that time is short.
00:42:30.68\00:42:32.38
You know that Jesus is
coming again very soon.
00:42:32.41\00:42:35.15
And God is not just interested
in our physical health,
00:42:35.18\00:42:37.82
but also our spiritual health.
00:42:37.85\00:42:39.19
Amen.
00:42:39.22\00:42:40.56
So we really want to push
00:42:40.59\00:42:41.92
that training
component even further.
00:42:41.96\00:42:43.93
Amen.
00:42:43.96\00:42:45.29
Well, you just
said the key word soon,
00:42:45.33\00:42:47.93
Jesus is coming soon.
00:42:47.96\00:42:49.50
Right now we're going to go
00:42:49.53\00:42:50.93
to a song with John
Stoddard entitled "Soon."
00:42:50.97\00:42:54.87
Wow!
00:48:12.92\00:48:14.26
Soon, Soon.
00:48:14.29\00:48:15.62
Thank you, John. Thank you.
00:48:15.66\00:48:17.46
All right.
00:48:17.49\00:48:18.83
So I can't believe
our time is running short.
00:48:18.86\00:48:22.66
But I want to hear about
00:48:22.70\00:48:24.03
some of the challenges
that you faced in ministry?
00:48:24.07\00:48:27.74
I think the first
challenges that we faced
00:48:27.77\00:48:31.04
was probably a personal
one, our time management.
00:48:31.07\00:48:34.81
Okay.
00:48:34.84\00:48:36.18
Sometimes when
you're involved in ministry,
00:48:36.21\00:48:39.68
ministry can kind
of take the focus away
00:48:39.71\00:48:42.68
from your time and
you're not spending
00:48:42.72\00:48:45.59
enough time with God.
00:48:45.62\00:48:47.46
So we had to be very deliberate.
00:48:47.49\00:48:49.52
So we set timers on our phones,
00:48:49.56\00:48:52.46
to make sure that
00:48:52.49\00:48:53.83
we are definitely
spending our time with God.
00:48:53.86\00:48:56.83
Because it doesn't matter
if we are reaching the world
00:48:56.87\00:48:59.73
with the cooking school,
with wellness consultations,
00:48:59.77\00:49:02.34
but if we're not
spending time with the Master,
00:49:02.37\00:49:04.04
then we're wasting our time.
00:49:04.07\00:49:05.41
Yeah, yeah.
00:49:05.44\00:49:06.78
So I think that was
probably our first challenge.
00:49:06.81\00:49:11.01
Let's see, what
would be our second one.
00:49:11.05\00:49:13.95
I think our second one would be
00:49:13.98\00:49:17.49
people confining us to
just one type of ministry.
00:49:17.52\00:49:22.42
So everyone knew
7th Scroll as the bus.
00:49:22.46\00:49:26.16
And so we just
can't confine God.
00:49:26.19\00:49:30.00
And so when He moved us
in a different direction,
00:49:30.03\00:49:34.50
because the bus did
have the preaching component,
00:49:34.54\00:49:37.51
as well as the
teaching component,
00:49:37.54\00:49:39.54
but not so much
the health component.
00:49:39.57\00:49:41.08
Yeah.
00:49:41.11\00:49:42.44
And so, when God moved us
more so towards the health,
00:49:42.48\00:49:46.85
we just kept on hearing bus.
00:49:46.88\00:49:50.22
Yeah.
00:49:50.25\00:49:51.59
You know, and
that was hard for us
00:49:51.62\00:49:52.95
because we, that's
what we knew as well.
00:49:52.99\00:49:55.26
Yeah, yeah.
00:49:55.29\00:49:56.62
So the shift was made
00:49:56.66\00:49:58.53
but everybody had
you stuck back here.
00:49:58.56\00:50:00.60
It's interesting how it
works even in personal lives too
00:50:00.63\00:50:04.17
if you've been brought
through some kind of trial
00:50:04.20\00:50:06.27
or if you've overcome something,
00:50:06.30\00:50:08.37
people still confine
you to your past sins
00:50:08.40\00:50:12.67
or your past
indiscretions, your past
00:50:12.71\00:50:14.58
whatever the case may be,
00:50:14.61\00:50:16.58
people still
confine you to that.
00:50:16.61\00:50:18.25
But you know, I
like how you said,
00:50:18.28\00:50:20.65
God, we can, we
try and confine God,
00:50:20.68\00:50:23.59
but God moves us in
different directions.
00:50:23.62\00:50:25.52
Yeah.
00:50:25.55\00:50:26.89
And we have to be willing
00:50:26.92\00:50:28.26
to follow Him in
those directions.
00:50:28.29\00:50:30.76
You know, I've asked you about
your needs for the ministry.
00:50:30.79\00:50:34.00
And this was
prior to the program.
00:50:34.03\00:50:37.17
And I remember you saying that
00:50:37.20\00:50:38.53
prayer, prayer, you need prayer.
00:50:38.57\00:50:41.50
So we definitely want
00:50:41.54\00:50:43.04
our viewers to
pray for you guys.
00:50:43.07\00:50:46.47
But I think that they should
also support you financially,
00:50:46.51\00:50:50.08
food's not free,
00:50:50.11\00:50:51.91
especially it's not free
to put on the cooking classes
00:50:51.95\00:50:55.52
and stuff like that.
00:50:55.55\00:50:56.89
And there's a lot of
people that need your services.
00:50:56.92\00:51:02.02
We would really
appreciate the prayer,
00:51:02.06\00:51:05.86
first and foremost,
and the financial support
00:51:05.89\00:51:08.36
would be a blessing as well.
00:51:08.40\00:51:10.37
Because there are lots of people
00:51:10.40\00:51:11.90
in New York City
00:51:11.93\00:51:13.27
who are suffering and
who really need to hear
00:51:13.30\00:51:15.67
the everlasting gospel.
00:51:15.70\00:51:17.11
Absolutely. Absolutely.
00:51:17.14\00:51:18.71
So hopefully, our
viewers will pray for you
00:51:18.74\00:51:21.01
and support you financially.
00:51:21.04\00:51:22.41
Just like the Bible says,
"Faith without works is dead,
00:51:22.44\00:51:25.41
you know,
prayer without action."
00:51:25.45\00:51:28.02
You know, we need
to put some action
00:51:28.05\00:51:29.95
behind our prayers as well.
00:51:29.98\00:51:31.99
You know, I've got 15 coats,
and this guy's out here in cold
00:51:32.02\00:51:36.32
and I just tell him,
I'm gonna pray for him,
00:51:36.36\00:51:38.03
that doesn't work.
00:51:38.06\00:51:39.39
So, we're gonna go
to your address role
00:51:39.43\00:51:42.33
and let people know
00:51:42.36\00:51:43.70
how they can get
in touch with you.
00:51:43.73\00:51:47.57
To find out more
about The 7th Scroll
00:51:47.60\00:51:49.50
and how you can
help with their mission,
00:51:49.54\00:51:51.04
please visit The7thScroll.org
00:51:51.07\00:51:53.48
or email them at
info@The7thScroll.org.
00:51:53.51\00:51:57.45
You may also call
them at 347-779-7628,
00:51:57.48\00:52:02.92
or write to 150
South Portland Avenue,
00:52:02.95\00:52:06.49
Brooklyn, New York 11217.
00:52:06.52\00:52:09.82