I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Removing pain
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Lord, let my words
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Heal a heart that hurts
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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- Hello and welcome to another
3ABN Today program. Thank
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you for joining us as
you do each and every day!
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I'm blessed by a lovely
co-host. - Yay! - My wife
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Yvonne, how are you today?
- I'm doing well, thank you.
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- All right. You're looking
spiffy. - Well, thank you;
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so are you! [laughter] -
All right. Now we'll move
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on to the main part
of the program. We know
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that you're blessed.
And don't forget every day
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to thank the Lord for
what He has done in your life,
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because without Him there
is no life. With Jesus Christ
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and acceptance of Him
committing- literally, if
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we go to Him and confess
our sins, He's faithful and
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just to forgive us
from our sins and to cleanse
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us from some unrighteousness.
- Oh... - All right, all
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unrighteousness. -
That's right. - Aren't you glad
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about that? So, just
think about it. The great God
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of the universe has a
home prepared for you and me
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with our names there. And
if they're written down in
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the Lamb's Book of Life
and all we have to do is,
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as I've said already, confess
to Jesus. He's faithful- He
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wants to forgive us.
He died that none should
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perish but all should
have everlasting life. So, the
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news today from 3ABN
to you is good news: Jesus
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loves you, He died
for you and made a plan of
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salvation for you,
He's coming back very soon
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in the clouds of glory
to call each and every one
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of us home. Isn't
that great news - Oh, man.
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And you know, the...
I guess the older I get,
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the more I just appreciate
the fact that this is just
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temporary-but we have
an eternal home. We have
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an eternal home in
heaven! So, what a blessing that
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is to know that we
can be with Him forever.
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- Absolutely. And what a
blessing for us that we're
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able to work with
people in ministry around the
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world, have the same
goals, same mission, as we do
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here at 3ABN, and as you
do at home-and that's to take
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the gospel into all
the world. And with that-
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that's my little
segue to introduce... - That
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was good! [laughter] -
Introduce brother Steve
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Dickman. Steve, how
are you doing? - I'm fine,
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thank you. It's good to
be here with you. - Thank
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you! What a privilege
to have you here today,
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and you're the
president of Harbert Hills? And
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tell us where Harbert
Hills is-and what is it? It's
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a...school? Is it a...
- Yeah! - Okay. - Harbert
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Hills Academy is located
in Savannah, Tennessee. Well,
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near Savannah, Tennessee.
- Okay. - We're kind of like
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you are here. You
say your nearest town may
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be Thompsonville or West
Frankfort, but reality is
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you're kinda in the country.
- Yeah, that's right. [laughter]
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We like it. - And so,
that's how it is for us there at
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Harbert Hills Academy;
we're located in the country.
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- Okay. - And so,
we praise God for that,
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because we like the country.
But Harbert Hills Academy
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was started 1951. It's
an outgrowth of the work
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that happened at Madison
College in Madison, Tennessee.
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And for those who
know something about that,
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Madison was started in 1904.
Ellen White helped to found
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that school and to give
it a philosophy of education-
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and the philosophy
there was, you should be a
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missionary-and we're
here to train missionaries,
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and the mission idea was
that you would be trained,
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and then you would go
out and start something
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where there was nothing
else going on to get the
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gospel into the areas.
Specifically at that point
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in time, there's a lot
of concern for the southern
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part of the United
States. The Civil War was over,
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but still it was not the
prime area of our country.
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And so, she was promoting
people to go out and start
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things in the southern
part of the United States.
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And so, Harbert
Hills Academy came out of
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that environment.
Both of my parents attended
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Madison College, so
they were there at Madison.
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- All right. - My
father came from California;
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my mother was living
in Tennessee at the time,
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but she came to Madison,
as well. And both of them
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came for an interesting
reason: their parents
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didn't have the resources
to pay for their college
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education. And so, Madison
was a place where you could
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come, and if you would learn
to work like they taught you
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in that program, you
could work your way through
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school. - Oh, that's
great. - And so, both
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of my parents worked
their way through Madison
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College. They're
sitting in chapel one day down
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toward the end of
their time there, and they
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had been married by
that point. They had met each
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other and were married,
and the individual giving
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the chapel talk
said, "I'm going to start a
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new school, and I
need some help." And so he
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made his appeal. He
said, "Are there any students
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here who'd be willing
to help start a new school,
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pioneer a work? And we
have this little place we're
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interested in down
in Savannah, Tennessee,
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and there's no Seventh-day
Adventist presence in nine
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or ten different counties
there." - Mm. - And as I
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heard the story, my
mother kind of gave the elbow to
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my father and said, "Louie,
I think that's us." - Okay!
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- And so, they committed
their lives to Harbert Hills
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Academy and to service
to God there, and I was
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born there. So, I have a
little history attachment
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to the school. - I'll say
you have a lot of history.
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Steve is also a president
of ASI. You've been there
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and were recently re-elected,
right? - Yes. - And so, you
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have a busy schedule.
- Yeah, I would say so.
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- He has a tremendously
busy schedule. So, doing
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both-but you're able
to do it. God has blessed
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you. He's given you
health and a good brain and a
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great-and I would say
instilled from your parents-
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great love for the
ministry and getting the gospel
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to the world. And so,
we're so thankful, again,
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that you're here today.
Before we go any farther
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though, we do have some
special music, and we're
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going to do the music,
and then we're going to
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come back. We want you at
home to call your friends,
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your enemies, everybody...
Let them know that 3ABN,
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we have a great
guest today. We're going to
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be hearing some miracle
stories. I know you like
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that. Brother Steve Dickman
is here. But right now, it's
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my privilege to introduce
some great friends of ours,
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the Birchfield brothers.
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- Praise the Lord. Is that
beautiful or what? - Oh, it's
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so peaceful, isn't it?
It's just very relaxing and
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tranquil. - And what a
Friend we have in Jesus.
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- Yes, indeed. - That's
what we're talking about
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today. That's what
you were sharing with the
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world. You're doing it in
an area here in Tennessee-
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you say near Savannah.
You've given us a little
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bit of the
background with your folks going
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there and you being basically
born there-and the year
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your folks went down
there was the year I was born.
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So, I'll remember that-1951.
I know I look a lot older, but
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I wasn't born until 1951.
- Oh, no! - So, we want to
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find out a little more
about the school, and I'm sure
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you've got some questions,
too... - Oh, yes. - ...about it
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and find out, you know, is
it connected with the church,
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is it self-supporting...
There are a number of
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things, and I'm sure you
have some... What questions
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you want out asking
him? - I was asking him
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about the enrollment.
Like, what is the enrollment
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at the school? How
many kids do you have there?
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- So, we have about 60
students, and they come
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from, interestingly,
all over the world. It was
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probably 10-15 years ago
we started accepting a few
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students from out of
the country. - Okay. - And
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somehow, they got
multiplied, and we have a lot of
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applications from out of
the country-students that
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want to come to the
United States and study. Maybe
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some of them just want
to get to the United States;
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that's probably a possibility.
But our program is unique
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in that that Madison model
of education was to provide
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a balanced
education, or you might say an
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all-around education.
We believe that education
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is more than what you
learn in the classroom.
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- Okay. - Not that classrooms
aren't something good,
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because we all need certain
information, and we better
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get it in the best environment
we can-but there's a lot
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more to education than
that. My study of education over
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the years-and I've
been doing this about
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28 years now-and so in
my role for Harbert Hills
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Academy, it's been a
while. I just continue to study
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this idea of education:
what God really wants in regard
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to this. First of all,
think of Genesis. Where
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did God put Adam
and Eve? - In a garden.
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- He put them in a garden.
Why did He put them there?
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You think, "Well,
he wanted a nice place
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for them." That's
true, but there was something
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more than that. And if
you read Genesis chapter
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2, you find it
says, "And God took Adam
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and Eve and put them
in the garden to dress
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it and to keep it." - Mhm.
- Well, what's so significant
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about that little sentence?
Well, it encompasses the
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whole plan of education-
because who's the Teacher?
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God Himself is the Teacher
in this case, and He took
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the students, Adam
and Eve, and He put them
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into the garden
and He gave them useful
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work to do. So, you
have: God is the teacher. So,
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in today's
environment, since He can't come
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personally, He gave
us His Word, right? So we
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have the Word of God,
we have the-in nature, He
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put them right there
in nature-the study of
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nature, we have
useful work for them to do.
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And along with the experiences
that you have when you're
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just living life, that
was God's original plan of
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education. Well, if you
take that a little further
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downstream and you look
at, how did Jesus get His
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education? Well,
book education says from
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four things: useful
work, study of Scripture, study
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of nature, and experiences
of life. - Okay, that's good.
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- So, we find that
model of education in Genesis,
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we find it-and
actually, in the schools of the
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prophets, as well-we find
it in the life of Jesus...
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And, you know, there
are even indicators that
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someday, when we get to
the heavenly kingdom, we're
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still going to continue
our education, and we're
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going to continue it on
God's farm instead of our
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farm here. - All right! -
And so, it's very interesting
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to see that God is consistent.
And a lot of times today,
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you see the high-tech
education, and "We've got
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to get a computer in the
hand of every student," and this
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kind of thing. But
you know, God didn't do
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that in the
beginning. He could have, right?
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God is God; He
could've created an iPad for
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everyone, right? -
Yeah, right; sure. [laughter]
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- Instead, He gave them
a real apple tree. - Yeah,
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there you go. Real
apple. [laughter] - Said, "Grow
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some of these and find
out." - So, what are some
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of the things that your
students do there besides...
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Once they get out of
the classroom, what are
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they learning? - So, the
way that... The practical
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training part of it is,
at Harbert Hills Academy,
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is that we have a 49-bed
nursing home on our campus
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owned by the school... -
Okay. - ...For the purpose of a
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training institution
for the students. So, we
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have 49 residents there,
the students are involved
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in cooking and
cleaning and housekeeping...
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And then, once they
are mature enough, we train
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them to be certified
nurse assistants, and
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they can actually do...
- These are high school?
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- Yeah! And they can do
direct patient care. And
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so, it's a very maturing
experience... - I'll say.
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- ...For them. And then,
we have a farm. You can't
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have school without a
farm... - Yeah, what's
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some of the things they
do? You're growing different
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crops? They're driving
the tractors and all that?
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- We grow berries and
potatoes and cucumbers,
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and we're just
building some greenhouses, kind
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of bringing... Our goal
is to actually grow more
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of what we eat. You
know, we're pretty dependent
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these days on going to
Walmart, right? Or some
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other grocery store;
don't let me call out a certain
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brand name here. But we
go to the grocery store;
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we expect that
that's where our food comes
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from. - Yeah!- But in
the beginning, it wasn't
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that way. - Right. -
And there may come a time
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when it's not going
to be that way. And so,
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learning to grow things
is a very important part-
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not just practically speaking
but for their education.
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- So the young folk get
to learn farming a little
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bit, right? - Yeah. -
Gardening and farming.
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- Gardening, farming...
We have a bakery there
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on campus, we have...
Yeah. Also have a radio
00:15:43.44\00:15:48.38
station. So, we have
a variety of things that
00:15:48.51\00:15:50.51
they're involved in,
which are the practical training
00:15:50.58\00:15:53.01
opportunities to take
what they learn in the
00:15:53.11\00:15:55.58
classroom and apply it
so that you don't forget
00:15:55.65\00:15:58.59
it. Now, I'm going
to assume something. I'm
00:15:58.65\00:16:01.29
going to assume in high
school, you took algebra.
00:16:01.39\00:16:02.72
Is that true? -
Yeah, I had to. [laughter]
00:16:02.79\00:16:05.73
Didn't really want
to; I had to. - That's one
00:16:05.86\00:16:09.46
of those required courses,
right? - Yeah. - But you
00:16:09.53\00:16:12.50
know what? We don't
remember much of it.
00:16:12.60\00:16:15.04
- That's true,
yeah. - Because we didn't
00:16:15.14\00:16:16.47
use it for
anything. - Mhm. Good; I was
00:16:16.50\00:16:19.21
afraid he was gonna
ask me something and I was
00:16:19.31\00:16:21.31
gonna have to
know... - Better you than me.
00:16:21.38\00:16:23.48
- No, yeah. - You
could certainly answer those
00:16:23.58\00:16:25.75
questions better than I.
- No, but you also probably
00:16:25.81\00:16:28.55
took basic math where
you learned to add and
00:16:28.62\00:16:30.99
subtract, right? -
Yeah. - But you remember that,
00:16:31.05\00:16:33.42
right? - Absolutely. -
Why? Because you use it. - Yeah,
00:16:33.49\00:16:35.86
that's right. - You
know, you use it daily. - Yeah,
00:16:35.92\00:16:37.89
I was a carpenter
for many years. - Okay,
00:16:37.96\00:16:39.69
so... - So, I
really needed that. - And
00:16:39.76\00:16:41.10
you learned some geometry.
- Yeah. - And I bet I could
00:16:41.13\00:16:43.37
ask you a question
about how to build a building
00:16:43.47\00:16:45.07
related to geometry,
and you could just tell me
00:16:45.13\00:16:47.17
like that. - Don't ask
me any, but I can build
00:16:47.27\00:16:50.81
buildings. - He can!
- Exactly, because why?
00:16:50.87\00:16:53.98
You used that skill
that you learned. And so, we
00:16:54.08\00:16:56.85
feel that application
is one of the keys to
00:16:56.91\00:17:00.18
education that has been,
to some degree, neglected.
00:17:00.28\00:17:03.69
- Mhm. - And we
learn a lot of theoretical
00:17:03.82\00:17:05.95
stuff. Even today, we
send students to college
00:17:06.05\00:17:09.89
and they come out,
and then they get the real
00:17:09.99\00:17:12.59
world and they're
like, "What do I do now?"
00:17:12.69\00:17:14.53
- Absolutely. -
Well, it should be that we
00:17:14.66\00:17:17.43
know something and have
real skills when we come
00:17:17.50\00:17:20.47
out of school. - It
is interesting that we
00:17:20.57\00:17:22.07
just spoke of
heaven. The Bible says that
00:17:22.17\00:17:24.77
we'll do the work of our
hands once we're in heaven.
00:17:24.84\00:17:28.24
In other words,
we'll plant vineyards, and
00:17:28.34\00:17:29.98
we'll do the work. So
as you said, continuing
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education won't just
be all in one area; it's
00:17:32.48\00:17:37.02
gonna be in the physical:
out doing things, which
00:17:37.12\00:17:39.45
is amazing. Now,
more recently, I think you
00:17:39.55\00:17:42.39
got into some
building. Speaking of building
00:17:42.49\00:17:44.23
or trades, tell us a
little bit what's happening
00:17:44.33\00:17:47.00
on that end, or
just students... Are they
00:17:47.10\00:17:50.50
building houses,
or...? What's happening?
00:17:50.60\00:17:52.50
- Well, we have had,
for a long time, a housing
00:17:52.60\00:17:56.20
need on our campus. -
Mhm. - We've had less housing
00:17:56.30\00:18:00.08
than we have- we have
more need than we have
00:18:00.18\00:18:04.15
houses. And so, in addition
to that, we've had some of
00:18:04.25\00:18:07.65
our staff have been
living in mobile homes.
00:18:07.78\00:18:10.65
Now, mobile homes
are a good solution maybe
00:18:10.75\00:18:13.62
temporarily. - Right. -
But a long-term solution
00:18:13.69\00:18:16.02
is... They don't really
work that well for that.
00:18:16.16\00:18:19.26
So, we are in a
process right now of building
00:18:19.36\00:18:22.90
some new staff homes. -
Wow. - That will replace
00:18:23.00\00:18:26.47
our mobile homes and
give us additional housing
00:18:26.57\00:18:28.70
so that our staff
have a respectable place to
00:18:28.80\00:18:32.47
live. - They should!
They should. They work
00:18:32.57\00:18:34.04
for it. - These are
not extravagant homes;
00:18:34.18\00:18:38.15
they're about 1400 sq
ft, 3 bedroom, 2 bath, a
00:18:38.25\00:18:40.92
little garage...but they're
very nice. And the students
00:18:41.02\00:18:44.89
are learning so many things
helping to build them. - So
00:18:44.99\00:18:48.26
the students are part of
the actual building of the
00:18:48.36\00:18:51.19
homes as well! - Yes!
- This is really good!
00:18:51.29\00:18:54.53
I'm loving the idea
of the application of the
00:18:54.63\00:18:58.73
education, because so
often... You know, you're
00:18:58.83\00:19:02.14
in school, and
you're learning the academic
00:19:02.24\00:19:04.14
part, as you had
said before, and then you
00:19:04.24\00:19:07.18
get out, and then you
have to get the experience.
00:19:07.28\00:19:09.68
But the students are
getting experience as
00:19:09.78\00:19:13.31
they learn the academics!
And so, that is such a
00:19:13.42\00:19:17.49
great marriage to me.
I think that it's really
00:19:17.62\00:19:20.16
important. And it's
also important, I think,
00:19:20.26\00:19:22.59
for character development,
because they're learning...
00:19:22.69\00:19:27.06
I interviewed someone
on Dare to Dream once,
00:19:29.03\00:19:31.80
an author, and he wrote
a book called How Children
00:19:31.90\00:19:35.30
Succeed. And basically,
it was saying that it's
00:19:35.40\00:19:38.91
not just about
academics; it's about character
00:19:39.01\00:19:41.54
development, perseverance,
and determination, and
00:19:41.64\00:19:44.41
all of these things.
And so, that's how they
00:19:44.51\00:19:47.55
succeed. So, you are
helping students to be
00:19:47.65\00:19:51.29
successful in life,
because not only are
00:19:51.35\00:19:54.12
they having the
academic piece, but they're also
00:19:54.22\00:19:56.42
having the character
development piece, and
00:19:56.52\00:19:58.63
that is so
important. - Yeah. And for me
00:19:58.73\00:20:02.06
as an employer,
someone comes to me and they
00:20:02.16\00:20:05.33
want to work in,
say, the studio, and they
00:20:05.47\00:20:08.50
say, "Well, I studied
some in school a little
00:20:08.60\00:20:10.61
bit," or, "I've
gone on the internet and
00:20:10.67\00:20:12.17
I've looked at how
to run a camera," but if
00:20:12.27\00:20:14.48
I say, somebody
comes and says, "Hey, I was
00:20:14.54\00:20:16.54
taught, and I've
already got experience, so"...
00:20:16.61\00:20:18.31
Here are your
students. Some of those can come
00:20:18.41\00:20:20.65
away and say, "I've
already done this. I've
00:20:20.75\00:20:22.58
done some building,
I've done some electrical,
00:20:22.68\00:20:24.35
I've done plumbing,
I've done framing, I've done
00:20:24.45\00:20:26.39
gardening, I've
done"... You've actually- now,
00:20:26.49\00:20:29.42
you've got
somebody. Say, "Okay, now we
00:20:29.56\00:20:31.33
don't just have the
textbook; now we got the whole
00:20:31.43\00:20:34.10
complete package." -
That's right. - I mean, that's
00:20:34.20\00:20:36.87
a great advantage. -
Really great advantage.
00:20:36.93\00:20:39.40
- If you know...or
you wouldn't be doing it.
00:20:39.50\00:20:41.30
- I got my education
at Harbert Hills Academy,
00:20:41.40\00:20:44.34
and I've learned a lot
of things in my life. I
00:20:44.44\00:20:46.47
went to school after
Harbert Hills Academy.
00:20:46.54\00:20:48.31
I attended Southwestern
Adventist College and then
00:20:48.38\00:20:51.25
Walla Walla College,
and went away with a degree
00:20:51.35\00:20:53.75
in engineering; worked
in that field for about
00:20:53.85\00:20:56.18
10 years. But when
I came back to Harbert
00:20:56.28\00:20:59.25
Hills, I
recognized something. I said,
00:20:59.32\00:21:02.22
"Do you know what?
Most of the stuff I
00:21:02.32\00:21:03.86
use every day is what
I learned right here."
00:21:03.93\00:21:06.29
- Okay! - And so, the
fact that I can build a house
00:21:06.39\00:21:10.50
and I can do wiring
and I can do plumbing, and
00:21:10.57\00:21:12.17
I can do those
kinds of things. Those are
00:21:12.27\00:21:14.54
things I learned
there. I didn't learn that in
00:21:14.67\00:21:16.07
college. - And
that's... - I learned that with
00:21:16.20\00:21:18.77
the practical part of
the program right there.
00:21:18.84\00:21:20.94
- Wonderful. I
wanted to talk about how you
00:21:21.04\00:21:24.71
got into media. I
mean, you seem to be getting
00:21:24.81\00:21:27.58
into all... You
know, Jesus said, "Go ye
00:21:27.65\00:21:30.69
into all the
world," so you're training
00:21:30.79\00:21:32.12
the students. But
back some... How long ago
00:21:32.15\00:21:34.42
was it before y'all
said, "We want to get into
00:21:34.56\00:21:38.06
media," whether it's
radio, television, print,
00:21:38.16\00:21:40.23
or page, "but we
should be there." Tell us how
00:21:40.33\00:21:43.70
that started. -
Well, it's an interesting
00:21:43.80\00:21:45.17
journey, because we
didn't really say that.
00:21:45.23\00:21:47.90
- Oh, okay. [laughter]
- Here's what happened:
00:21:48.00\00:21:50.47
we had a staff
member. His name was Albert
00:21:50.57\00:21:52.91
Nielsen-fine man.
He had worked there at
00:21:53.01\00:21:55.41
the school for
years, and he came to the
00:21:55.51\00:21:57.45
board of directors
one day and he said, "I'd
00:21:57.58\00:22:01.12
like to start a
radio station. Would you
00:22:01.25\00:22:03.85
be willing to allow
me to do that?" And the
00:22:03.95\00:22:06.62
board looked at him
and said, "You must be from
00:22:06.76\00:22:09.56
another planet." [laughter]
"You know that we have
00:22:09.66\00:22:12.13
a hard time buying
the groceries to feed
00:22:12.19\00:22:15.06
these students and
paying the bills...
00:22:15.16\00:22:17.47
Radio station? How
would we ever do that?" And
00:22:18.80\00:22:21.50
he just said, "Well,
let me ask a question.
00:22:21.60\00:22:25.71
If I could find the
money, would you let me start
00:22:25.81\00:22:29.21
it and shelter it here
at this school? Because I
00:22:29.31\00:22:31.91
need a corporation
to shelter it." And they
00:22:32.01\00:22:34.28
said, "Okay. Brother
Nielsen, it's fine. If
00:22:34.42\00:22:37.92
you can get some money
together, we'll let you
00:22:38.02\00:22:39.69
start the radio
station." What they didn't know
00:22:39.79\00:22:42.39
is that his mother was
going to leave him some
00:22:42.52\00:22:44.39
inheritance money. -
Oh... - And he had a passion
00:22:44.49\00:22:47.93
to see this happen,
but we didn't understand.
00:22:48.06\00:22:50.83
I say "we"; the board
didn't understand what
00:22:50.97\00:22:52.57
he was doing, but I
believe he was under
00:22:52.67\00:22:55.20
the influence of the
Holy Spirit, and the Holy
00:22:55.30\00:22:58.27
Spirit had prompted
him to do this thing. He
00:22:58.37\00:23:00.58
had the ability to
take nothing and make
00:23:00.68\00:23:06.88
something. You know?
Some people have that.
00:23:06.95\00:23:08.52
- Sure. - He could
take baling wire and masking
00:23:08.62\00:23:10.22
tape and make a transmitter,
okay? [laughter] That's
00:23:10.35\00:23:13.29
the kind of ability
he had. And because of
00:23:13.36\00:23:17.93
that ability, he was
actually able to pass
00:23:18.06\00:23:20.50
his Class I FCC
license test, and he began
00:23:20.60\00:23:25.23
to assemble the needed
parts and put together a
00:23:25.33\00:23:27.77
radio station.
Well, we didn't have a
00:23:27.87\00:23:29.34
tower. He said,
"I've gotta have a tower.
00:23:29.40\00:23:30.87
What am I gonna
do?" So, a local guy came
00:23:30.94\00:23:33.51
by and he said,
"Listen, I'd like to just donate
00:23:33.61\00:23:37.75
my car to you guys."
And so, he donated this
00:23:37.85\00:23:41.38
old Cadillac to the
school. And Mr. Nielsen saw it,
00:23:41.48\00:23:44.35
but he didn't see a Cadillac.
- Uh-oh. - He saw a tower.
00:23:44.45\00:23:47.46
- Come on now.
[laughter] - And he said, "Would
00:23:47.52\00:23:50.53
you be willing to
let me have this car for
00:23:50.63\00:23:52.99
the radio station
work here?" And he saw an
00:23:53.09\00:23:56.77
ad in the paper somewhere
up here in Illinois somewhere.
00:23:56.87\00:23:58.97
Someone had a tower
they wanted to sell,
00:23:59.07\00:24:03.14
and he called
them up. He said, "How
00:24:03.24\00:24:04.97
about this: I'm starting
a little radio station, and
00:24:05.07\00:24:07.21
I've got a Cadillac
I'd like to trade you for
00:24:07.28\00:24:08.74
your tower." And
they said, "Done." - Okay!
00:24:08.81\00:24:12.65
- So, we drove that old
Cadillac up here to Illinois
00:24:12.78\00:24:15.38
and parked it in
this guy's parking lot and
00:24:15.45\00:24:18.29
hoped that we never had
to see it again. - Yeah.
00:24:18.42\00:24:21.56
- And he sent us
out to this field where
00:24:21.66\00:24:23.36
there was this tower
that had been dropped on the
00:24:23.46\00:24:25.13
ground. - Mm,
mm... - And you know what
00:24:25.19\00:24:26.53
happens when you drop a
tower. - Mhm. - It bends
00:24:26.63\00:24:28.36
up some of the parts.
- Yeah, absolutely. - We
00:24:28.46\00:24:30.47
took it apart and
loaded it in a U-Haul truck and
00:24:30.53\00:24:32.40
hauled it home and
built a tower with that, and
00:24:32.47\00:24:35.97
that's how it got
started. He had a passion to see
00:24:36.07\00:24:38.37
this happen, and he
wouldn't let anything
00:24:38.47\00:24:40.41
stand in his way. A
lack of equipment was nothing
00:24:40.51\00:24:43.35
to him. - Right. -
Because he'd just pray his way
00:24:43.45\00:24:45.21
through it and ask the
Lord to help him know what
00:24:45.28\00:24:46.95
to do, and if it was
a Cadillac for a tower
00:24:47.05\00:24:48.65
or whatever it
was... But he ultimately got
00:24:48.75\00:24:52.05
a license for a 100,000-watt
station. - Wow, that's
00:24:52.15\00:24:55.72
great. - Now, in the
late '60s, early '70s,
00:24:55.82\00:24:57.16
that was okay; you
could do that, because radio
00:24:57.26\00:25:00.26
wasn't the same
thing it is today. - Right.
00:25:00.36\00:25:02.33
- But you could never
get that license today.
00:25:02.43\00:25:04.23
- Mhm. - Because
the frequencies are all
00:25:04.33\00:25:06.33
taken up. - Oh,
yeah. Yeah. So, you built
00:25:06.43\00:25:10.64
a radio
station... And what'd you do
00:25:10.74\00:25:13.11
for programming? What
year was this when you
00:25:13.17\00:25:15.08
first went on the
air? - So actually, in the
00:25:15.14\00:25:17.01
early '70s, I worked
at that radio station as
00:25:17.11\00:25:19.61
a student at
Harbert Hills Academy. I was
00:25:19.71\00:25:22.02
over there- and we
had turntables. You
00:25:22.08\00:25:23.42
know the old, big turntables,
and you'd put the record
00:25:23.45\00:25:25.42
on it and you'd cue
it up, and then you'd
00:25:25.49\00:25:28.36
would switch it on at
the right time and the
00:25:28.46\00:25:30.29
music would play.
That's what we did! - Yeah.
00:25:30.39\00:25:32.13
- And so, I'd work
shifts there at the
00:25:32.23\00:25:33.56
radio station, never
knowing that I'd be involved
00:25:33.60\00:25:35.73
in anything greater
than that... So, we got
00:25:35.83\00:25:41.74
our programming from
wherever we could get
00:25:41.84\00:25:44.64
it, and Mr. Nielsen had a
very interesting personality.
00:25:44.74\00:25:49.54
He liked to study history;
studied a lot of things,
00:25:49.64\00:25:51.25
and so he'd bring all
these interesting programs
00:25:51.38\00:25:53.45
in, and we'd play
them. So, it was kind of a
00:25:53.55\00:25:55.65
little bit...maybe
the word's eclectic or
00:25:55.75\00:25:58.15
something. It was just
like, it didn't really have
00:25:58.22\00:26:00.72
a theme, maybe, but it
was a lot of stuff, and
00:26:00.82\00:26:02.79
it was educational
radio, and we learned
00:26:02.92\00:26:04.73
a lot of things
there. - Mhm! - And so, that
00:26:04.86\00:26:07.20
was the
programming stream. Now, I came
00:26:07.26\00:26:09.53
back to Harbert
Hills in 1991. And when
00:26:09.63\00:26:12.50
I came back, the
radio station was kind of a
00:26:12.57\00:26:14.90
low point. When
I say it was a low
00:26:15.00\00:26:16.77
point, due to
lack of funds, you know
00:26:16.87\00:26:19.54
how it is, you do
what you have to do with
00:26:19.64\00:26:21.61
what you have. -
Sure. - And so, he was doing
00:26:21.68\00:26:23.38
that, and the transmitter
was old and decrepit,
00:26:23.45\00:26:26.31
we would say, and on
its last leg a few times
00:26:26.41\00:26:29.18
ago before. And he
would just say, "Well,
00:26:29.28\00:26:33.19
we'll keep it going
one more time." - Mhm.
00:26:33.25\00:26:35.06
- And I looked at
that situation and I said,
00:26:35.12\00:26:36.89
"I don't know what
there is to do for this.
00:26:37.03\00:26:39.16
It doesn't look
hopeful to me." So, we kind of
00:26:39.26\00:26:42.70
went through a
process there for a few years,
00:26:42.76\00:26:44.40
and in 1995 or '6,
I had a guy call me
00:26:44.47\00:26:50.41
on the phone. He
said, "I'd like to buy your
00:26:50.51\00:26:55.31
radio station. What
do you take for it?"
00:26:55.41\00:26:57.85
And I went, wow-this
guy might be serious!
00:26:57.95\00:27:01.45
I kind of smiled internally.
This might be a great
00:27:01.55\00:27:04.75
opportunity to really
get rid of this thing.
00:27:04.85\00:27:06.45
So I said,
"Well, I don't know, but
00:27:06.59\00:27:08.56
I'll think about
it." Hung up the phone...
00:27:08.69\00:27:11.69
...and then I went
to ASI. - Mhm. - And you
00:27:11.79\00:27:15.33
know what an inspiration
ASI can be... At ASI,
00:27:15.43\00:27:18.87
I met Paul Moore, and
he was involved in radio,
00:27:18.93\00:27:24.34
and I told him about
the situation. He looked at
00:27:24.44\00:27:28.04
me and he said, "Whatever
you do, please don't sell
00:27:28.14\00:27:32.01
that station." -
Right. - He said, "You don't
00:27:32.11\00:27:34.65
understand what
you've got. It may be on a
00:27:34.75\00:27:38.05
low down right
now, but you have a real
00:27:38.15\00:27:40.86
opportunity to witness
to your community through
00:27:40.96\00:27:42.59
this." He said,
"Please don't sell it." I said,
00:27:42.66\00:27:45.39
"Well, what can we do?"
He says, "Well, I'll help
00:27:45.46\00:27:47.43
you if I can. You
just tell me what"... You
00:27:47.50\00:27:49.56
know. I said, "I
don't know what to do!"
00:27:49.66\00:27:51.20
Well, I went back
home, and we began to pray.
00:27:51.27\00:27:53.80
I said, "Lord"- because
what had happened in the
00:27:53.87\00:27:56.20
meantime is the FCC had
told us, "You have to go
00:27:56.30\00:27:58.61
down in power."
[laughter] What they didn't know
00:27:58.71\00:28:01.64
is we were not at full
power. We were broadcasting
00:28:01.74\00:28:04.58
off an old, decrepit
transmitter just barely
00:28:04.65\00:28:07.38
getting out. But because
of the license said 100,000
00:28:07.48\00:28:11.32
watts, he said,
"You have to go down."
00:28:11.39\00:28:12.72
So, he had put an application-
Mr. Nielsen put an application
00:28:12.75\00:28:15.12
to go down in power. And
so I got home and I said,
00:28:15.19\00:28:18.43
"Are we going to let
this thing go down in power?
00:28:18.53\00:28:20.43
What are we gonna do?"
And I'm just praying and
00:28:20.50\00:28:21.90
praying and praying...
I got up in the morning.
00:28:21.96\00:28:25.40
I was reading in Psalms
81 and it says this-verse 10:
00:28:25.50\00:28:29.80
"I am the Lord your
God who brought you out
00:28:29.90\00:28:33.74
of the land of Egypt.
Open your mouth wide and I will
00:28:33.84\00:28:37.41
fill it." - All right!
- I went to the office, I
00:28:37.48\00:28:40.28
sat down with the
group, and I said, "We're going
00:28:40.38\00:28:43.25
to have a 100,000-watt
radio station." They said,
00:28:43.35\00:28:46.05
"What do you mean?" I
said, "Well, I read this
00:28:46.15\00:28:48.29
verse of scripture. Do
you believe the Bible?"
00:28:48.39\00:28:50.29
[laughter] "Well, yes, we
believe the Bible!" I said,
00:28:50.39\00:28:53.60
"Well, good! Then let's
do this!" And so, we began
00:28:53.70\00:28:56.50
the process, the Lord
sent the funds, and in
00:28:56.60\00:28:58.60
a matter of a few
months, 6-8 months, we were up
00:28:58.73\00:29:01.30
at 100,000 watts, and
we were broadcasting now
00:29:01.40\00:29:05.11
to places that we'd never
been before. - Sure. - And
00:29:05.21\00:29:08.21
we had taken on a consistent
programming stream. And so
00:29:08.31\00:29:12.38
it was a real
blessing, and we began to see
00:29:12.48\00:29:14.88
the impact of a radio
station in a local community!
00:29:14.98\00:29:18.75
It was just amazing to
see what God was doing-
00:29:18.85\00:29:21.46
to see Him supply the
need, and then to see Him begin
00:29:23.29\00:29:26.09
to use this
resource in the community to
00:29:26.19\00:29:29.56
impact the community.
- Amen. - Well, that's
00:29:29.70\00:29:32.23
incredible. - So are
the students actually the...
00:29:32.33\00:29:35.24
I don't want to say
disc jockeys; that's so
00:29:37.01\00:29:38.94
dated. [laughter]
But are they the... Thank
00:29:39.04\00:29:42.14
you. Are they the announcers
and all that in there? - So,
00:29:42.21\00:29:45.65
we teach a class
called Radio Broadcasting. And
00:29:45.75\00:29:48.48
in that class, they
learn how to use their voice...
00:29:48.58\00:29:52.82
There's kind of a process
to that. You know, on TV,
00:29:52.92\00:29:56.02
you got a face, and you
can express yourself through
00:29:56.16\00:29:59.33
facial expressions and
that kind of thing. But
00:29:59.43\00:30:01.80
in radio, you're
just there. - Right. - And
00:30:01.90\00:30:04.63
you've got to use your
voice to express yourself.
00:30:04.70\00:30:07.77
And so, we teach them
that, and we teach them
00:30:07.84\00:30:10.21
how to run the automation
systems and all the stuff
00:30:10.27\00:30:12.81
associated with
running a little studio for the
00:30:12.87\00:30:16.44
radio station. They
get some experience there.
00:30:16.54\00:30:19.48
They go over on
Friday afternoons, and they
00:30:19.58\00:30:21.48
run live there for some
hours and select the music
00:30:21.58\00:30:24.92
and do the announcing.
And so, they're a part
00:30:24.99\00:30:27.56
of this and learning
how to do this. You know, a
00:30:27.66\00:30:31.53
lot of little
churches have Low Power FMs
00:30:31.63\00:30:33.73
now. - Yeah. Yeah,
absolutely. - A lot of
00:30:33.83\00:30:36.10
times, they don't
have anybody that knows
00:30:36.20\00:30:37.57
anything. They start
one; they say, "We'd like to
00:30:37.63\00:30:39.60
have one," but they
don't know. And so, to be able
00:30:39.70\00:30:42.10
to send some students out
that have that training...
00:30:42.24\00:30:45.84
- No, that's
incredible. Like 3ABN, I talked
00:30:45.91\00:30:47.44
to Angela Lomacang recently.
We have nearly a network
00:30:47.54\00:30:50.61
of almost 400 radio
stations around the world. A lot
00:30:50.68\00:30:54.38
of those are those
Low Power, but we need
00:30:54.48\00:30:56.79
people to know how
to operate those and to
00:30:56.89\00:30:59.59
run those. Now, you
talked about the radio
00:30:59.69\00:31:02.52
not being seen. When we
first started 3ABN, I told
00:31:02.62\00:31:05.93
some of my friends that
we were building a television
00:31:05.99\00:31:08.63
station, and they
said, "No, you should build a
00:31:08.73\00:31:11.10
radio." And I said,
"Why?" And they said, "'Cause
00:31:11.20\00:31:13.57
you have a face for
radio, not television." - No...
00:31:13.64\00:31:16.50
[laughter] - I said
they're friends; I guess
00:31:16.60\00:31:19.87
they were. Maybe I'm
too dumb to figure that
00:31:19.94\00:31:22.31
one out. But they said,
"You've really got a radio
00:31:22.41\00:31:24.78
look about you." -
No... Not true. - A hidden
00:31:24.88\00:31:28.82
look. So, doing this,
if... I'm gonna guess.
00:31:28.88\00:31:33.86
Now, I'm not a
prophet or a son of a prophet.
00:31:33.96\00:31:35.92
I'm gonna say, once
you get in the Lord's work
00:31:36.02\00:31:38.36
and once you really
get going and you get this
00:31:38.39\00:31:41.43
100-watt station, everything
to this day has just been
00:31:41.50\00:31:44.80
a barrel of fun, a bed
of roses, they say, and
00:31:44.87\00:31:47.40
all of this stuff... Probably,
this never had a... The radio
00:31:47.47\00:31:50.74
station's never had a
problem. Is that right,
00:31:50.81\00:31:52.54
or am I wrong a
little bit? - Well, I want to
00:31:52.64\00:31:55.08
tell you the first problem
we had. - Okay. - And that
00:31:55.14\00:31:57.31
was when we just
bought a used transmitter
00:31:57.45\00:32:00.28
out of Texas. - Mhm. -
And we brought it in. We're
00:32:00.38\00:32:02.95
going to put it on the
air. We're not even on the air
00:32:03.02\00:32:04.99
yet with the 100,000
watts, because we needed a new
00:32:05.09\00:32:08.16
transmitter. But new was
used to us at that point!
00:32:08.22\00:32:10.76
- Sure. - So we
bought this transmitter, and
00:32:10.86\00:32:12.46
we brought it there.
We tried everything. I had
00:32:12.56\00:32:16.03
two engineers there that
knew more about this thing
00:32:16.13\00:32:18.97
than you and I could know
in a lifetime. They took it
00:32:19.07\00:32:21.77
all apart and laid it
out on a table and put
00:32:21.87\00:32:23.67
it back together and
plugged it in...it wouldn't
00:32:23.77\00:32:25.31
work. We took it apart
again, laid it out on the
00:32:25.37\00:32:27.14
table, and put it
back together...it wouldn't
00:32:27.24\00:32:28.78
work. And I'm going
like, "What's the deal here?
00:32:28.84\00:32:32.31
I mean, are we even
gonna have a radio station? We
00:32:32.38\00:32:35.25
spent all this money
now to upgrade, but are we
00:32:35.35\00:32:37.65
even going to have
one?" And the third time, we
00:32:37.79\00:32:40.39
took it apart, put it back
together...it still wouldn't
00:32:40.49\00:32:42.62
work. - Mm. - So, by that
time, I was kind of wondering.
00:32:42.69\00:32:45.53
But one of the engineers
says, "Ah, I think we ought
00:32:47.33\00:32:49.90
to change the length of
this cable." And I said,
00:32:49.96\00:32:52.37
"What is the length of
a cable have to do with
00:32:52.47\00:32:53.97
anything?" They
said, "Well, you never know
00:32:54.07\00:32:55.40
in radio,
different things impact..."
00:32:55.44\00:32:57.27
- Sure. - He changed
the length of the cable,
00:32:57.37\00:32:58.87
plugged it in, it
worked. - Okay! - Wow. - Well,
00:32:58.97\00:33:01.64
all of that to say,
God was training me, and
00:33:01.74\00:33:05.51
I didn't know it. -
Okay. - Because our founder,
00:33:05.68\00:33:10.62
Albert Nielsen at that
point... We didn't know
00:33:10.72\00:33:13.02
it, but he had bladder
cancer...and a few months
00:33:13.12\00:33:15.59
later, he was dead.
I was left with a radio
00:33:15.72\00:33:20.23
station that I didn't
know anything about. But I
00:33:20.33\00:33:24.10
did know something,
because I had been trained. We
00:33:24.23\00:33:26.30
teared the transmitter
apart a couple of times. - Yeah,
00:33:26.40\00:33:28.34
okay. - So, I felt comfortable
working on it and at least
00:33:28.47\00:33:32.14
knowing I could open
the door and close it.
00:33:32.24\00:33:33.84
- Sure. Yeah. - And so,
that is one of the challenges
00:33:33.98\00:33:38.81
we had in the
beginning... But God was working
00:33:38.91\00:33:40.98
even through these difficulties,
we're still working, providing
00:33:41.08\00:33:44.49
the training, providing
us with what we needed.
00:33:44.59\00:33:47.86
It's been a journey of
faith, honestly, because
00:33:47.96\00:33:50.93
you know how it is
in broadcasting work. At
00:33:52.43\00:33:54.56
least for us, we're a
listener-supported station.
00:33:54.70\00:33:58.03
We don't have the funds
to just pay all the bills,
00:33:58.13\00:34:00.54
but we invite our
listeners to help us!
00:34:00.64\00:34:02.24
- Right. - And that's been
a journey of faith, really,
00:34:02.34\00:34:04.47
because when you've got
a transmitter of the size
00:34:04.54\00:34:08.51
we've had to have on
the air, it eats a lot of
00:34:08.61\00:34:10.85
electricity. The bills
are expensive, but God has
00:34:10.95\00:34:14.85
been faithful in providing.
He's helped me to know
00:34:14.95\00:34:18.99
how to do things I
could never do. - Mhm. - You
00:34:19.09\00:34:21.22
know, you open the
equipment, maybe you're
00:34:21.32\00:34:22.66
looking, "I have no
idea what's wrong with this
00:34:22.69\00:34:24.03
thing!" - Sure. - And
you get an impression, "Well,
00:34:24.06\00:34:25.73
look here, look there,
check this, check that,"
00:34:25.83\00:34:27.16
and pretty soon, it's
working again. And you're going,
00:34:27.20\00:34:29.73
"Praise the Lord! I don't
know how to fix this thing,
00:34:29.86\00:34:31.33
but it's fixed!" - I
want to go a little bit now...
00:34:31.47\00:34:35.10
I'm gonna bring us
to the recent past. The
00:34:35.20\00:34:38.91
radio station-everything's
going well. But all of a
00:34:39.04\00:34:43.18
sudden, you get a-and
you'll explain this to the
00:34:43.28\00:34:46.25
viewers-you got a
hit. Lightning hit on your
00:34:46.35\00:34:49.45
station. I think you
even have a few pictures and
00:34:49.58\00:34:52.19
in a little bit
they'll show you, but tell us
00:34:52.32\00:34:54.26
what in the world happened
to this radio station and
00:34:54.36\00:34:57.29
how much damage did occur?
- So, I was in the country
00:34:57.39\00:35:03.10
of Colombia. And
some of my other duties,
00:35:03.16\00:35:05.73
with ASI and,
actually, with OCI, and I was
00:35:05.83\00:35:09.57
down there doing
some meetings for OCI and
00:35:09.67\00:35:11.97
doing some training
down there for-leadership
00:35:12.07\00:35:13.68
training-for the ministries.
And it's the night before I'm
00:35:13.78\00:35:17.81
to come home, and it's
like 11 o'clock at night
00:35:17.91\00:35:19.95
where I'm at, and
I'm getting these text
00:35:20.05\00:35:22.65
messages. "We got
problems. We're having
00:35:22.75\00:35:24.89
a huge lightning
storm on campus." My wife
00:35:24.99\00:35:26.92
texted me and she said,
"I think the windows are
00:35:27.02\00:35:29.19
going to blow out or something.
This is a terrible storm."
00:35:29.32\00:35:31.63
I went, "Oh, my!" And
so, pretty soon someone's
00:35:31.73\00:35:35.06
putting on the text
message, "I smell smoke."
00:35:35.16\00:35:37.37
And I said, "Somebody
smells smoke? That's bad!
00:35:37.47\00:35:40.10
Something's
burning!" And so pretty soon,
00:35:40.24\00:35:44.17
somebody else said,
"I smell smoke!" I said,
00:35:44.27\00:35:46.24
"Will somebody get in
their car and go see what's
00:35:46.34\00:35:48.18
burning?!"
[laughter] Because something's
00:35:48.28\00:35:50.55
burning if everybody's
smelling smoke. You know
00:35:50.65\00:35:52.41
the old adage:
"Where there's smoke, there
00:35:52.51\00:35:53.85
might be some fire"?
But they couldn't see
00:35:53.88\00:35:56.25
anything, because the
transmitter building's
00:35:56.35\00:35:57.69
about 2,000 ft from
campus. But pretty soon,
00:35:57.72\00:36:00.19
somebody got that far
out, and they saw this
00:36:00.29\00:36:02.29
glow, and they
called the fire department.
00:36:02.42\00:36:04.59
And when I heard that,
I said, "Oh, my. We got
00:36:04.69\00:36:06.29
bigger problems." I
said, "If they go in there,
00:36:06.43\00:36:07.86
start squirting water on
this, there's a 10,000-volt
00:36:07.96\00:36:10.37
transformer in
there, and it's going to be
00:36:10.50\00:36:13.44
problems." And so, they
showed up. I tried to send
00:36:13.54\00:36:16.94
text messages through,
"Please, be careful." I
00:36:17.04\00:36:19.07
didn't want anybody
to get hurt! I said, "The
00:36:19.24\00:36:21.24
equipment is one
thing, but getting somebody
00:36:21.38\00:36:22.71
hurt is another
problem." And so they went out,
00:36:22.74\00:36:24.85
and they put the
fire out. I came home the
00:36:24.95\00:36:28.48
next day. My
flight was scheduled early
00:36:28.62\00:36:30.29
that next morning; I
came home. I went straight out
00:36:30.39\00:36:32.79
to the transmitter building,
and I just stood there and
00:36:32.89\00:36:34.96
looked at it. You know
how things kind of affect
00:36:35.02\00:36:37.33
you? - Ooh... Look at
that. It's like that, we
00:36:37.39\00:36:40.80
have in Johnston City,
that little transmitter
00:36:40.90\00:36:42.40
shack (that's what
they call that). - You look
00:36:42.50\00:36:44.30
inside then, and you
look at the equipment that
00:36:44.40\00:36:46.84
was getting out the
good news, and you go in your
00:36:46.94\00:36:51.21
mind, you begin to say,
"Lord, what is happening
00:36:51.34\00:36:54.74
here? Why could this
be happening to us now?"
00:36:54.84\00:36:58.58
- I mean, that's
total destruction. It looks
00:36:59.65\00:37:01.38
like you bombed it. -
Yeah. It was just ashes and
00:37:01.48\00:37:04.39
some melted equipment
was all that was left.
00:37:04.52\00:37:07.22
- Mm, mm, mm. - And
as much as I have this
00:37:07.32\00:37:10.86
inward desire to
say, "Okay, everything's
00:37:10.93\00:37:13.46
fine," when you're in
a crisis like that, your
00:37:13.56\00:37:16.30
mind is just going.
So, my mind went this way;
00:37:16.40\00:37:19.87
my mind said, "All right."
I'm an action kind of person.
00:37:19.97\00:37:24.67
"Let me go on the
internet. I'm gonna search. I'll
00:37:24.77\00:37:28.98
find a used transmitter."
And I did! I found one
00:37:29.08\00:37:30.98
very similar to the
one we had. I said, "Ooh-
00:37:31.08\00:37:33.21
that's in Oregon. I can
send somebody to Oregon,
00:37:33.31\00:37:35.42
we can buy that transmitter,
we can rebuild this thing,
00:37:35.48\00:37:37.72
we'll be back on the
air before too long, and we
00:37:37.85\00:37:39.92
can get out there
again." And then I stopped, and
00:37:40.02\00:37:44.73
I began to ask myself
this question: "Is that
00:37:44.83\00:37:48.23
really what God
would want?" x2 The devil's
00:37:48.33\00:37:52.80
got a blow in here,
right? He's put a blow in, he's
00:37:52.90\00:37:55.94
brought this thing
down... God could've protected
00:37:56.04\00:37:59.34
it, but He chose not
to... There must be some purpose
00:37:59.44\00:38:02.88
here. I said, "You
know what? I'm going back to
00:38:02.98\00:38:08.28
my Bible." And that
verse in Psalms 81, "Open your
00:38:08.38\00:38:13.32
mouth wide, and I will
fill it." And I said, "You
00:38:13.42\00:38:16.56
know, we're not
going to rebuild with any
00:38:16.66\00:38:18.03
used equipment." -
Okay! - I said, "That's not...
00:38:18.13\00:38:20.60
I don't believe that
would be pleasing to the Lord."
00:38:20.70\00:38:23.00
- Mhm. - I said, "We
could for a few...maybe
00:38:23.06\00:38:25.63
$20-30,000, I go out
and buy some used stuff, and
00:38:25.73\00:38:28.14
we get back on the air,
but I don't believe that
00:38:28.20\00:38:29.90
would be pleasing to
the Lord." I said, "We're
00:38:30.01\00:38:32.51
going to go"... I said,
"I know that it's going to be
00:38:32.61\00:38:34.34
expensive, but we're
going to buy new equipment,
00:38:34.44\00:38:37.28
and this digital age
now will allow us to do more
00:38:37.38\00:38:41.65
than we have ever done
before. For God's glory,
00:38:41.72\00:38:46.19
let's rebuild this
thing and really put it on the
00:38:46.32\00:38:48.26
map." - Absolutely,
and that's what I wanted
00:38:48.36\00:38:50.33
our viewers to know
the reason you were not
00:38:50.43\00:38:52.59
above buying used,
but buying used is buying
00:38:52.69\00:38:56.56
old technology. - Yeah. -
So, you're thinking ahead,
00:38:56.67\00:39:00.40
which is a very
smart and wise and prudent
00:39:00.50\00:39:02.54
thing to do is to say,
"We're going to go with
00:39:02.64\00:39:04.74
new technology." Tell
us what you can do with
00:39:04.84\00:39:07.41
digital technology. -
So, the digital world today
00:39:07.48\00:39:10.21
allows you to have a
transmitter that occupies
00:39:10.28\00:39:13.78
the same bandwidth. In
other words, it doesn't
00:39:13.88\00:39:15.75
step on other
people's radio station, but you
00:39:15.85\00:39:18.92
can put three or
four channels where there
00:39:19.02\00:39:21.02
was only one. So, digital
radio's kind of... It's been
00:39:21.16\00:39:25.06
around for a while, but
it's the best technology
00:39:25.16\00:39:29.13
there is today. - And
we just happen to know
00:39:29.23\00:39:31.43
where he can get
some extra channels-radio
00:39:31.50\00:39:33.94
channels. - Yes! - And
I said to myself, "I know
00:39:34.04\00:39:37.21
3ABN has a radio
channel, and I know 3ABN has a
00:39:37.27\00:39:41.01
Spanish channel," and
I've had this burden for a long
00:39:41.11\00:39:43.61
time to see a Spanish
broadcast in our area...
00:39:43.71\00:39:46.05
but I didn't know how to
do it. But the devil opened
00:39:46.15\00:39:50.95
that door for me! - He
sure did. - I believe the
00:39:51.02\00:39:52.92
devil didn't know it.
- Nuh-uh. - But I believe
00:39:53.05\00:39:55.49
He wanted the gospel
to go in a more powerful
00:39:55.59\00:39:57.19
way. - Absolutely! -
And so right now, we are
00:39:57.33\00:40:01.50
selecting equipment and
building the station back,
00:40:01.60\00:40:04.80
and God has just
blessed abundantly and opened
00:40:04.90\00:40:07.94
the windows of
heaven, and we can build back
00:40:08.00\00:40:11.54
with brand-new new
technology, digital
00:40:11.61\00:40:14.71
technology, that will
allow us to do a better
00:40:14.74\00:40:17.58
job of bringing honor
to God. - Amen. - What
00:40:17.65\00:40:22.05
do you think? - I
think it's amazing. I think,
00:40:22.08\00:40:24.19
you know, it's so...
God allows certain things
00:40:24.22\00:40:27.46
to happen to draw us
closer to Him and also
00:40:27.49\00:40:31.73
to enhance our circumstances
in some way, and that's
00:40:31.79\00:40:36.60
what He's done.
He's opened up your mind
00:40:36.67\00:40:39.43
to say, "Well, let's
not use used equipment;
00:40:39.50\00:40:42.80
let's get something
new." And as you said, Danny,
00:40:42.87\00:40:45.47
and it's so important
to stay abreast of the
00:40:45.57\00:40:48.01
technology, because
it's always changing and you
00:40:48.04\00:40:50.98
could get something
that's obsolete. You're paying
00:40:51.05\00:40:53.48
less, but it's obsolete.
Get something that has to do
00:40:53.52\00:40:57.29
with what's going on
now, and then you can stay
00:40:57.35\00:40:59.62
up with it. So, I think
that's beautiful. - I was
00:40:59.69\00:41:03.83
thinking about this and
I said, "You know, that's
00:41:03.89\00:41:06.36
a lot of money. It's
gonna be like a quarter
00:41:06.39\00:41:08.43
million dollars just for
the basic stuff we need."
00:41:08.46\00:41:11.17
That's a lot of
money. But I said, "You know
00:41:11.23\00:41:13.13
what? If there's one
soul that would be reached
00:41:13.20\00:41:18.01
because of this, it's
worth the investment."
00:41:18.07\00:41:21.71
- There'll be many more
than that. - That's right.
00:41:21.74\00:41:23.11
- Yeah! And likely to
be many more than that.
00:41:23.18\00:41:25.71
But if it was just
one, and someday we look
00:41:25.81\00:41:29.12
back and say, "We invested
a quarter million dollars to
00:41:29.18\00:41:31.05
save a soul," praise
God because Jesus invested
00:41:31.12\00:41:33.52
His life. He didn't
hold anything back. He said
00:41:33.56\00:41:37.23
the whole treasury
of heaven was poured out
00:41:37.29\00:41:39.19
in Jesus, and He
came here. He didn't hold
00:41:39.26\00:41:41.70
anything back. He
said, "Well, I'm gonna save
00:41:41.76\00:41:43.26
some for later." He
gave it all. - And for our
00:41:43.30\00:41:45.90
viewers at home, we
of course- television is
00:41:45.97\00:41:50.21
our main focus, has been
for years... At least, we
00:41:50.27\00:41:53.91
talk about it and
you see us there, but as
00:41:53.98\00:41:55.68
we mentioned our radio
stations are up to nearly
00:41:55.74\00:41:58.25
300 owned and affiliate,
or 400 owned and affiliate
00:41:58.31\00:42:01.92
stations. But radio,
if you go to our local
00:42:01.98\00:42:05.52
church, and we're here
out in the country as you
00:42:05.59\00:42:07.59
saw, we have
numerous people-I don't know-
00:42:07.66\00:42:10.26
12, 15... I would be
guessing. I know there's
00:42:10.33\00:42:13.16
more than I can count
at hand of people, Steve,
00:42:13.19\00:42:16.13
as you know, just have
walked in the church and said,
00:42:16.20\00:42:19.67
"I'm here from
listening to 3ABN Radio." Now,
00:42:19.73\00:42:24.11
we get it with television,
but radio... There's many
00:42:25.07\00:42:26.41
people-walked in, baptized
at our church (probably from
00:42:26.44\00:42:30.48
3ABN Radio as television
in the area), so it's very
00:42:30.58\00:42:33.88
powerful. And so what
you have there, people
00:42:33.98\00:42:36.58
are driving down the
road, they can't watch
00:42:36.65\00:42:38.75
television when
they're driving down the road,
00:42:38.82\00:42:40.69
you know, and you turn
the radio on, and so we
00:42:40.76\00:42:44.09
have a full-power
station here, too-95.9 in the
00:42:44.19\00:42:47.63
local area-and
these people are listening
00:42:47.73\00:42:49.46
to 3ABN Radio. And they
walk in, just like the ones
00:42:49.56\00:42:52.80
do and say, "We're
ready to be baptized." - Amen!
00:42:52.87\00:42:55.64
- And just recently,
Pastor John was telling
00:42:55.74\00:42:57.61
me another couple
or two that came in. So
00:42:57.67\00:42:59.87
between television and
radio, it's amazing. So
00:42:59.97\00:43:02.64
that's why we're
excited to be able to work with
00:43:02.74\00:43:04.71
you and to... We
know the results, you know
00:43:04.81\00:43:07.55
the results, and
now you're going to be
00:43:07.62\00:43:09.12
able to do greater
things for God than you were
00:43:09.22\00:43:11.52
able to do before, because
the devil said, "Well, I'm
00:43:11.62\00:43:13.62
going to take them
out." But he underestimated
00:43:13.72\00:43:17.46
you and the power of
God and your determination,
00:43:17.56\00:43:20.26
because it's not
like your first rodeo,
00:43:20.33\00:43:22.43
as they say. You've
been in ministry 28 years.
00:43:22.53\00:43:25.23
I guarantee you you've
been to a bunch of rodeos.
00:43:25.33\00:43:27.90
So, what we don't say
is give up. - Exactly.
00:43:28.00\00:43:31.11
- So, "Okay, God. How
are you going to bring
00:43:31.17\00:43:32.51
us out of this one?"
- That's right. - Right
00:43:32.57\00:43:34.14
now, what they're facing
is, of course, that quarter
00:43:34.24\00:43:36.81
million dollars.
You may have some or
00:43:36.95\00:43:38.71
part of it done. I'm
sure you don't have all of
00:43:38.81\00:43:40.88
it, the radio, but
tell our viewers what we
00:43:40.98\00:43:44.85
can do to help with
this. - Let me tell you, Danny,
00:43:44.95\00:43:48.56
what God has done. He
has, to His glory, provided
00:43:48.66\00:43:55.46
all the funds for
the radio work. - Wow!
00:43:55.56\00:43:58.53
That is amazing. - To
do this quarter million
00:43:58.63\00:44:01.97
dollar rebuild, He
provided that. - That's amazing.
00:44:02.07\00:44:04.41
- It's absolutely
amazing. But what He has done...
00:44:04.51\00:44:07.34
He didn't stop there.
- Okay. - I called 3ABN
00:44:07.44\00:44:10.28
to get some counsel,
and I was talking with
00:44:10.38\00:44:13.58
your engineer here. -
Moses. - And we began to talk
00:44:13.65\00:44:16.92
about the fact that
we've had an application in for
00:44:17.02\00:44:21.12
a TV station for a while
and we got the construction
00:44:21.22\00:44:24.13
permit. But you
know what the FCC's been
00:44:24.23\00:44:26.09
doing with those frequencies
and stuff, so it's been
00:44:26.23\00:44:29.76
sitting dormant. But we
found out that our license
00:44:29.86\00:44:34.77
to construct the TV station
is now open. - Wow. - With
00:44:34.87\00:44:38.91
a dedicated frequency
that we can build there.
00:44:39.01\00:44:40.78
- Wow. Isn't that amazing?
- So what I would like to
00:44:40.84\00:44:43.95
do is appeal to the
3ABN audience to take this
00:44:44.05\00:44:47.65
thing to the next
level. - Okay. - Because God
00:44:47.75\00:44:49.95
has opened the door
for us through this tragedy
00:44:50.05\00:44:53.05
to now do the Low Power
TV, as well. - Okay. - And
00:44:54.32\00:44:57.86
He has provided so
abundantly at this point
00:44:58.83\00:45:01.16
that I am sitting here
today in full confidence
00:45:01.26\00:45:04.33
that He's going to
provide what we need to get that
00:45:04.47\00:45:06.84
Low Power TV on the
air, as well. - Absolutely.
00:45:06.97\00:45:10.11
- And to be a 3ABN affiliate
in that area, broadcasting
00:45:10.17\00:45:15.81
the good news of Jesus
to people in that area.
00:45:15.88\00:45:18.95
They tell us that the
budget is about $100,000
00:45:19.05\00:45:21.88
for this. - Yeah. Yeah.
- But I believe that God
00:45:21.98\00:45:25.15
has this, and I
want to tell you why. I
00:45:25.25\00:45:28.22
was sitting in my
office about a few days after
00:45:28.32\00:45:30.63
I got home from my
trip and I found out what
00:45:30.69\00:45:33.09
happened. I've been
through the ashes and
00:45:33.16\00:45:35.06
we're starting to
clean things up, and I had
00:45:35.16\00:45:37.30
begun to process
what we needed to do for
00:45:37.40\00:45:40.20
fundraising, and I
was just sitting there
00:45:40.27\00:45:41.60
and making some phone
calls, and this little girl
00:45:41.70\00:45:45.77
came to my door. She
said, "Mr. Steve? Are
00:45:45.87\00:45:48.71
you busy right
now?" And of course that,
00:45:48.81\00:45:52.08
in my case, is the
question that always, "Yes, I'm
00:45:52.18\00:45:54.48
always busy, but it's
okay." So I said, "No,
00:45:54.58\00:45:56.82
come on in! Sit down.
What can I do for you?"
00:45:56.89\00:45:58.95
And another little
girl popped her head around
00:45:59.05\00:46:01.96
the door, and so I saw
there were two of them,
00:46:02.06\00:46:03.69
and they live there
on our campus. She sat
00:46:03.79\00:46:06.46
down and she said, "You
know, we're worried about
00:46:06.53\00:46:09.63
the radio station." I
said, "Really?" She says,
00:46:09.73\00:46:13.00
"Yeah." She said,
"So, we want to make a
00:46:13.10\00:46:17.07
donation." And I say,
"Well, how nice. That's
00:46:17.14\00:46:21.24
so nice of you to
want to make a donation."
00:46:21.31\00:46:23.55
And she handed me an
envelope, and in that
00:46:24.25\00:46:29.62
envelope, there was $767. -
Oh, praise the Lord. - She said,
00:46:29.72\00:46:35.19
"You know, I think
it's more important that
00:46:35.29\00:46:37.39
people be able to
hear about Jesus than it is
00:46:37.49\00:46:41.50
for me to have a playhouse."
She says, "My sister and I
00:46:41.60\00:46:44.83
have been saving money
for our little playhouse."
00:46:44.93\00:46:46.87
She says, "But we want
to give this to the radio
00:46:47.60\00:46:49.90
station." - Wow. - I
just sat there and I said,
00:46:50.01\00:46:53.11
"God's got this." [laughter]
It is no problem for Him.
00:46:53.98\00:46:57.91
- Absolutely. - Put
your worries aside; the Lord
00:46:57.95\00:47:00.98
is going to do this
thing. - Mhm. - And it's
00:47:01.05\00:47:04.02
just amazing to see what
God does with little things.
00:47:04.09\00:47:07.72
- Yeah. Little is much
when God is in it. - That's
00:47:07.79\00:47:10.39
right. - And so, we're
sitting now, facing this
00:47:10.46\00:47:14.00
opportunity to now
put a TV antenna and a TV
00:47:14.03\00:47:18.60
transmitter in this new
building and on this same
00:47:18.67\00:47:22.04
tower, and I believe God
will be glorified when we
00:47:22.10\00:47:26.44
do that. - Yeah. Isn't
that great how the Lord
00:47:26.47\00:47:28.48
works? - It is. God
is amazing. - Looked like
00:47:28.54\00:47:30.98
it was going to be
devastation, and all
00:47:31.01\00:47:32.88
of a sudden comes
out a radio that's doing
00:47:32.95\00:47:36.45
different
languages- even doing Spanish
00:47:36.52\00:47:38.55
as well as the English-
then television. And so,
00:47:38.62\00:47:42.02
I mean, this is
really... Pardon this, but it's
00:47:42.06\00:47:44.03
a real kick in the pants to
the devil and his work, right?
00:47:44.09\00:47:47.33
And see the pants.
But that's what God
00:47:47.43\00:47:49.76
does. He's in the business
of creating things. So, what
00:47:49.86\00:47:53.00
we want you to do,
we want you to pray and
00:47:53.07\00:47:54.64
ask the Holy Spirit
what He would have you to
00:47:54.70\00:47:57.31
do. Now, I want to give
you just a minute before
00:47:57.37\00:47:59.34
we put the address on
the screen, but I want
00:47:59.41\00:48:01.34
you to get ready
to take it down and as
00:48:01.44\00:48:03.41
the Holy Spirit's impressing,
you'll want to send a
00:48:03.51\00:48:05.91
tax deductible love
gift to Harbert Hills
00:48:06.01\00:48:08.28
Academy, because this is
an incredible opportunity-
00:48:08.35\00:48:12.22
and that's why we wanted
you to come here. I talked
00:48:12.32\00:48:14.29
to our friend Garwin
McNeilus some weeks ago, and he
00:48:14.39\00:48:17.36
was telling me about
it. He sent me pictures.
00:48:17.46\00:48:19.29
I mean, this looked
like... I mean, it was a total
00:48:21.13\00:48:24.37
bomb-out. It's like,
really-sometimes, you
00:48:24.47\00:48:26.60
get a hit in just
certain- you know. But this is
00:48:26.67\00:48:29.10
like- destroyed everything.
And so, we started talking,
00:48:29.17\00:48:32.47
and he was asking
me questions and then
00:48:32.57\00:48:34.14
said, "Why don't you
talk to Steve and see
00:48:34.24\00:48:36.58
what we can do?" And I
said, "Absolutely. Let's
00:48:36.64\00:48:38.81
do it." It's just beginning.
- Yes. - It's gonna happen,
00:48:38.91\00:48:43.89
so we want you in
about a year from now to be
00:48:43.95\00:48:46.39
sitting down, should
the Lord tarry, and bring
00:48:46.49\00:48:48.36
some of the folk
who've come to know Jesus and
00:48:48.49\00:48:50.93
been baptized in the church
from watching and listening
00:48:51.03\00:48:53.96
to 3ABN Radio and whatever
other programming you have
00:48:54.06\00:48:57.77
there. So, absolutely.
- What an opportunity
00:48:57.87\00:49:00.87
to witness to the community
and to evangelize the community
00:49:00.94\00:49:05.41
in a way that- you
know, media- there's no better
00:49:05.54\00:49:08.61
way than media to me,
because you will enter
00:49:08.71\00:49:12.11
the homes or into the
cars, or whatever, and
00:49:12.21\00:49:14.92
that's how people can
hear about Jesus...and
00:49:15.05\00:49:18.29
it's just amazing. So,
what an amazing opportunity.
00:49:18.42\00:49:20.79
- It is an amazing
opportunity, and I'm
00:49:20.89\00:49:22.89
just confident that
God's going to do something
00:49:23.02\00:49:25.19
amazing for us, and
we're going to look back a year
00:49:25.29\00:49:27.56
from now and just continue
to praise Him. I shared with
00:49:27.66\00:49:31.53
some folks recently-
well, the newspaper asked me
00:49:31.63\00:49:34.04
to do a story about the
fire, and so I wrote the
00:49:34.14\00:49:36.84
story and I sent it to
him, and the guy called
00:49:36.94\00:49:38.57
me. He said, "Why? You're
just sounding like this is a
00:49:38.67\00:49:41.54
good thing!" [laughter]
And I said, "Well, what
00:49:41.68\00:49:45.01
else do you do?
It's done; we gotta go
00:49:45.11\00:49:47.45
forward." - Mhm. - And
he was just amazed that-
00:49:47.55\00:49:50.32
the positive
attitude. "We're gonna do this.
00:49:51.69\00:49:53.46
God's gonna bless this."
And it's a real opportunity
00:49:53.56\00:49:57.09
just to witness to the
community, too, that the
00:49:57.23\00:49:59.33
devil took it down,
but God brought it back
00:49:59.39\00:50:02.06
stronger. - Amen. -
All right. I think it- and
00:50:02.16\00:50:04.43
as old as I am, I can
use the word as "fun".
00:50:04.53\00:50:07.14
It's fun serving the
Lord and watching what God is
00:50:07.24\00:50:10.51
gonna do, 'cause we
don't know what He's
00:50:10.61\00:50:12.44
gonna do, but we know
it's gonna be good. - That's
00:50:12.57\00:50:14.54
right. - Right? For
we know that all things
00:50:14.64\00:50:16.95
work together for good
to who? - Them that love
00:50:17.05\00:50:20.58
the Lord and are the
called according to His
00:50:20.68\00:50:22.72
purpose. - Amen. -
And who is that? That's
00:50:22.82\00:50:24.55
all of us. That's
all of us who's willing,
00:50:24.65\00:50:26.39
right? As we said
in the beginning, if we
00:50:26.45\00:50:28.69
come to Jesus, we're
all sinners, we're all
00:50:28.79\00:50:31.46
saved by grace; and
if we confess our sins,
00:50:31.59\00:50:34.26
faithful and just He
is to forgive us from our
00:50:34.36\00:50:36.83
sins, cleanse us from
all unrighteousness...
00:50:36.93\00:50:39.07
Then He says this:
"Go ye into all the
00:50:39.17\00:50:41.67
world." But Stevie
says, "All power is given me
00:50:41.77\00:50:45.01
in heaven and earth." -
Exactly. - Go ye therefore.
00:50:45.07\00:50:46.94
So now... I
mean, immediately. So
00:50:47.01\00:50:49.94
what's saying is,
"Okay, looks like the end of
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the road of this TV
station... No, it's just
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the beginning,
'cause all power, I'm gonna
00:50:54.38\00:50:56.92
transfer that to
you. And if you go in My
00:50:57.02\00:50:59.29
name, I will open those
doors." As Dr. Walt used
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to say, "I've
counted my resources." The
00:51:02.22\00:51:03.86
Lord said, "And advance
found that I'm not wanting."
00:51:03.93\00:51:06.49
So Steve, go
forward, Savannah,? to that
00:51:06.59\00:51:10.00
whole entire area,
television and radio
00:51:10.10\00:51:12.07
for Jesus. What an
incredible, incredible
00:51:12.13\00:51:14.80
testimony and opportunity,
and we want YOU to have
00:51:14.90\00:51:18.27
the opportunity to be
a part of this. So what
00:51:18.37\00:51:20.68
we're going to do now,
we're going to go to an
00:51:20.74\00:51:22.08
address roll. You pray
and ask the Holy Spirit
00:51:22.11\00:51:24.18
what He would have you
to do. Now, if you don't
00:51:24.25\00:51:26.58
get this down for
any reason, you can call
00:51:26.68\00:51:28.52
3ABN. We will give you
their contact information,
00:51:28.58\00:51:32.09
but we're going to
go to that now, and then
00:51:32.19\00:51:33.92
we're gonna go to
a newsbreak and come
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back for a closing thought.
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If the Lord impresses
you to support Harbert
00:51:39.49\00:51:41.46
Hills Academy and
their media ministry and the
00:51:41.56\00:51:44.50
rebuild of their
radio station, please send
00:51:44.60\00:51:46.84
your donation or
other support to Harbert
00:51:46.90\00:51:50.14
Hills Academy
3575 Lonesome Pine Road
00:51:50.24\00:51:54.11
Savannah, Tennessee 38372.
That's Harbert Hills Academy
00:51:54.81\00:51:59.88
3575 Lonesome Pine
Rd Savannah, TN 38372.
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You can call (731)
925-3098. That's (731) 925-3098.
00:52:07.12\00:52:15.83
Or, you can find them
online at www.HarbertHills.org.
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