I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Removing pain
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Lord, let my words
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Heal a heart that hurts
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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Hello, friends,
welcome to 3ABN Today.
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My name is John Lomacang,
and I have my co-pilot with me.
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I'm Angela Lomacang.
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I'm glad that
you've tuned in today,
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and you're going
to be blessed today.
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Aren't they?
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I think that's an
understatement, honey.
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Oh.
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This program is
going to take you
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out of your office setting.
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Yeah, it is.
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If I could think
about this program
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in a very unique way,
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I would say somebody
might ask this couple,
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"Well, where is your office?
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Where do you go to work?"
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And their response might be,
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"Anywhere on the
planet where I am called."
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Yeah, and if you have a
granddaughter, grandson,
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a child, a
daughter, watch this program.
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That's right.
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It is for them, if
they are adventurous.
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What do you
think, honey? Oh, yeah.
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I think adventurous
will be the way it starts,
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but you'll learn
today in this program
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that this couple is
more than adventurous,
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very well trained.
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And the Lord has blessed them
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not only in their academia
to prepare for what they do
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on a daily basis
and a weekly basis
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but also you
have to have a passion
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for what this couple does.
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Yeah, it's ministry, isn't it?
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It's ministry.
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It's
International Rescue and Relief.
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And you'll meet
them in just a moment.
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But thank you for your prayers
and support of this network
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that keeps us going and growing,
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getting ready for
the coming of the Lord.
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I think I'm going to
let you introduce them.
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Oh, wow.
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I'm so excited. We have...
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Well, we have
Andrew and Kalie Saunders.
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And they are from, well,
Lincoln, Nebraska right now.
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But Kalie is more than...
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She's family to us.
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Kalie, we used
to go to our school,
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and her mom was the principal
of our school, Nancy O'Brien.
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It must have been nice, huh,
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having your mom as a
principal, your teacher?
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Depends on how you behave.
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That's right.
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And your dad, Joe O'Brien,
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he's been in the
pastoral department,
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he said, "For 20 years..."
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So many people call
in and they speak to Joe
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and he's prayed and
spoken with many people.
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So we're so happy to have you.
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And of course, your
husband, glad to have you here.
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And you've been married...
How long you been married now?
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Almost seven years.
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Wow. Wow.
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Almost seven years already.
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And tell us, Andrew,
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a little bit
about your background.
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Yes, tell us.
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We talked about
Kalie growing up here.
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We've been here
now, wow, 16 years
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and seen Kalie grow up
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and are very proud of
the road you've taken.
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And the life
partner that God sent
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to be a part of your life.
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But give us some
of your background
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'cause maybe our
viewers and listeners
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might say we know Kalie,
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but we don't
really know who Andrew is.
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Yeah.
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So I grew up in
the mission field,
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a different
mission field than 3ABN.
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But my parents were...
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My dad was a
surgeon in West Africa,
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in the country of Nigeria.
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And so I grew up there
for 10 years in Nigeria.
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And it's kind of
given me a passion
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to continue in mission and
work internationally, so...
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And kind of what
does your dad do?
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So he's a general surgeon.
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He's back living in
Africa, again, in Malawi,
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different
hospital but same mission,
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he's trying to
build local capacity
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so that we don't have to send
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foreign missionaries
any more necessarily
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but training up local
people to take on the mantle
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and minister to
their own people.
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Wow.
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And, honey,
while we've seen Kalie
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grow up here, you know,
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the question
would be in my mind,
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how did you both decide
to choose what you do now
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and kind of describe that
to our viewers and listeners
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how did you decide to choose
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what you do now
as a life dedication,
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as a job, as a career?
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I think it's
hard to say, you know,
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as a 17-year-old, 18-year-old,
like graduating high school,
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it's almost
impossible to be able to say,
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I know what I want to do
with the rest of my life.
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Like there's
just very few people
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that actually
get that opportunity.
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So I was one of those people
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that I didn't know exactly
where I wanted my life to go,
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I just knew that I wanted
to live a life of service,
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where I could serve the people
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that needed the most
help, wherever that was.
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And so
personally, I was drawn to
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the International
Rescue and Relief Program
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at Union College
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because, on top of
being an academic program,
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a bachelor's of science degree,
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it also had a lot
of adventure to it.
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Part of the program
is learning survival
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and swift water rescue
and technical rope rescue
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and search and rescue,
and there's a semester abroad.
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And I just thought, you know,
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this is a great way to
go into a life of service,
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even if I'm not exactly sure
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where I want to end up after it.
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Wow.
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And so when you talk
about all these things,
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where's your office?
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Well, for the last three months,
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our office was in Malawi.
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Wow.
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But it's arranged,
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it's gone from several countries
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to several states, just depends.
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Where have you traveled
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to do this
mission, I should say?
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Where have you
traveled to as a couple?
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As a couple, we've traveled...
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We actually used
to work for ADRA.
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After we graduated
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with the International Rescue
and Relief bachelor's degree,
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we went on to get
our master's degree
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in International
Development Administration
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with an emphasis in
emergency management
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from Andrews University.
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And so once we
had our masters there,
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we actually were hired by ADRA.
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And my husband and I
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both worked for ADRA in Ukraine,
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responding to the
civil conflict there,
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and then also
worked for ADRA in Iraq
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with the Syrian refugees
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at the height of
the crisis there.
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Oh, my.
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That must have
been pretty dangerous
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being out there in Iraq.
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Yeah, so we were 40 kilometers
or so from the frontlines,
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you would say,
where ISIS was fighting.
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But where we were, we
were well taken care of.
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The ADRA staff were wonderful
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and made sure that
we were never in danger.
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Wow. What were you doing there?
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My husband, he
can tell you about it.
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He was working very hard.
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Yeah, it was...
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It was a big job.
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Like, at the time,
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there were
several million people,
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both Iraqi
displaced from the war
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and then Syrians coming
in that were also displaced,
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so both refugees and internally
displaced people we call them.
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And we were
trying to do our part,
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we had a partnership with
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the International Department
of Humanitarian Affairs
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in Canada,
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they were funding
our project through ADRA.
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And we were doing cash for rent
to give people places to stay.
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The camps were full.
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There wasn't
space for more people
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to come into the camps.
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So we were trying
to find them housing
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and trying to integrate
them into the community,
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provide psychosocial support,
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vouchers so they could be
able to afford hygiene items
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like laundry soap and
just personal hygiene items
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and things like that.
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So, it was a
$1.4 million project,
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and we're able to reach
about 7,000 people, so...
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Wow.
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So while there is some adventure
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and some tentative moments
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where you wonder
what's going to happen,
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what could happen,
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the heightened
aspects of it are there
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because of the field you're in
or the theater that you're in.
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But for the most part,
you stay out of harm's way.
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But obviously,
anything is possible
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in the world that we live in.
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But I'm interested
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because when you talk about
International Relief and Rescue
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and both of you teach
this at Union College.
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Talk about that a little
bit because somebody might say,
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"International
Relief and Rescue,
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what do you actually teach?"
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Tell me some of the
specifics of the program.
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All right.
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So it has a wide
range of classes,
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and it kind of
tries to prepare you
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for one of three
different tracks.
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We have three emphases.
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You can go public safety,
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which would be
police, fire, EMS,
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somewhere along those lines.
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And then with one of those,
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you'd spend three years at Union
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with the fourth year
either at police academy
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or paramedic school
or something like that.
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And the first three years
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are focused on
getting your EMT license,
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some advanced skills like
airway and breathing skills.
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We get wilderness
medicine certifications.
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All units in the US
who do disaster response
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use the incident command system.
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So that way, if
units come from anywhere
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in the US to a disaster,
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we can all know
how each other work
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and fit into that
command structure.
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So we teach that system so
our people can fit right in.
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We teach technical rescue.
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So like Kalie said,
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we have swift
water, technical rope,
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search and rescue,
flood water management.
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And then we also
offer electives every year,
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and it could be
advanced rope skills
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or ice rescue or confined space
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or things like that that
people can take beyond that
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if they're
interested in that field.
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And then we also have
tracks that do pre-professional.
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So if you want to do
pre-med, pre-dent, pre-PA,
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something like that,
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you can also do the IR major
and take all these classes,
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and it's a bit more fun
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than just your
standard biology major.
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Yes, it is.
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And then our third
track, which we brought in
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when we came to the
program with our background
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in ADRA was a global
community development track
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where students are
a bit more prepared
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to work internationally
or with an NGO of some kind.
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It's a bit more
focused on grant writing,
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the same rescue classes
like everybody else takes
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but with more of a focus
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on less medical and
more on NGO management
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and things like that
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so they could work
for ADRA, World Vision,
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or an NGO in the US as well.
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Wow.
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Nice. Now tell us about Malawi.
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How did that come
about, you going to Malawi?
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I know your father is in Malawi.
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Your parents are in Malawi.
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Were you raised in Malawi?
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So I grew up in
Nigeria for 10 years.
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I went to high school in Kenya.
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So I lived a total
of 12 years in Africa.
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But my parents are
living in Malawi now
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after I, you know, left them,
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they moved to a
different country.
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So that gave us a
connection for a place to go.
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But Kalie is the
overseas coordinator
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for the program,
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so she can tell you
more about planning.
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Okay. Yeah.
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So for the four-year
bachelors of science degree
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that International
Rescue and Relief is,
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there's two exciting parts.
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So what Andrew was
explaining about the rescue
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and like the technical rescue
and stuff like that is taught
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immediately
following their freshman year,
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once they have
their EMT certification,
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then they jump right
into all the rescue classes.
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But we hold off a little
bit on the mission service
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until they can have a
little bit more training
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in cultural diversity and
like the social dimensions
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that are behind
potential disasters
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and just what it's like
maybe to expose them more
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to people of other cultures
and that level of diversity.
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So we give them lots of classes.
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And then their
final semester of college
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is when we do an
overseas semester.
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So Andrew and I,
we were students.
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And when we were students,
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we went for our CS
semester to Nicaragua.
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And the program had
been going to Nicaragua
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for about 10 years.
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When we came back as professors,
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we led two
semesters down to Nicaragua.
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And Nicaragua, you know,
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we have really
great connections,
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really great people,
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fantastic doctors
that we work with,
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fantastic
firefighters that we work with,
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like all of
these amazing people.
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However, their government
is a little unstable right now.
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And so they broke out
into a little bit of...
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not a civil war,
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but there's a lot
of unrest and rioting.
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And so because of
the safety factor,
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we chose not to go
back to Nicaragua this year,
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which was really a hard decision
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because we loved it so much.
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But when we knew, okay, we
can't go back to Nicaragua,
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this is a very
logistics heavy semester.
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You can't just take, you know,
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16-20 students to a
country and show up,
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like, there's a
lot of preparation,
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a lot of
planning, a lot of ground
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that has to be paved first.
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So when we knew we
couldn't go back to Nicaragua,
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you know, we were
all praying about it,
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trying to decide
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where's the best
place for us to go.
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And it turns out
that Andrew's family,
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his parents are
working in Malawi,
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and so they said,
"Well, we can help."
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So we went just
for a scouting trip
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for a week during the summer.
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And during that
week... that week trip,
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we could take a
whole hour just telling you
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about all the
miracles that happened
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in that one week alone,
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just that God made it very clear
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beyond the shadow of a doubt
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that this is where
he wanted us to go,
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that He opened the doors,
we met all the right people.
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Oh. Even on the airplane, huh?
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Yes.
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Even on the
airplane coming home,
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we sat next to the right people.
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So it's very clear
God wanted us to go there.
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That's right.
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So we went
forward with that plan.
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And for the whole fall semester,
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like we were
both teaching classes
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in the fall semester.
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But on top of that,
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we were also in contact
with everybody in Malawi
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and trying to work out the
logistics of transportation
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and where we're going to stay.
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We wrote up...
Where we're going to work.
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Yeah, we wrote
up work agreements
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with several
different organizations.
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So we worked with the
Adventist health services,
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we worked with...
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Adventist University.
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Yeah, the Adventist
University there in Malawi.
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We worked with the UNHCR,
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which is the High Commissioner
for Refugees from the UN.
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There's a refugee camp there
that we were able to work in.
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Wow. A huge camp.
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Yeah, a very large camp.
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So we were able to make
all of these connections
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in the summer,
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and then I spent
that fall planning
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exactly when and where
we would be in each place.
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And then we were able
to actually make it happen.
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And we spent our first
semester abroad in Malawi,
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just in this last year.
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We? How many is we?
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So, Andrew and myself
were the only staff that went.
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This year, we had 14 students.
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It varies depending
on the year, of course,
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our first year,
leading the group,
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it was 20, 21.
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Yep, so that was big.
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The next year was 8,
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and then this year,
it was 14, so it varies.
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Yeah.
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Now when you think
about all those 14 going,
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do you tend to have
more guys than girls
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or it's pretty even?
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It's been pretty even.
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It's pretty even,
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sometimes there'll be a
little bit of variation.
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But for the most part,
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for even the summer program
after their freshman year
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and then again for
the overseas semester,
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it's pretty much
split down the middle.
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Yeah, plus or minus one or two.
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And when you think
about the things that you do,
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I mean,
International Relief and Rescue,
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we've been talking about this
in preparation for the program,
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it's paramount to I'm
going to really strip...
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It's paramount to
you are on the lines
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to help others,
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but you have
such survival skills
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'cause I asked, I said,
"Well, when you train people,
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do you send them
out with a flashlight?"
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No.
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"Do they have
any digital devices?"
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No. Any tents?
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Any tents? But there is a...
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Tell me about that.
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I mean, just kind of familiarize
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our audience with that.
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Because there's an
emergency kit they have.
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But when you're
training these young people
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to kind of walk us
through that Colorado scenario,
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I think that
was very interesting
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when you dive back into Malawi.
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Okay, so, like, you know,
I'll talk about that then?
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So that's the part that I plan
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is the Summer Intensive session.
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And that's a lot of fun.
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I love the international work,
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and that's what I grew up doing,
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and I'm passionate about that.
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But I think the summer
portion may be more fun.
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So the first
week of the five weeks
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that we do out in
Southwest Colorado,
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in the four
corners area, is survival.
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We're at 8,000 feet.
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It's a beautiful ranch
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that we partner with
another Adventist group
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that has a
summer camp out there,
00:17:19.40\00:17:20.74
and they have 1,400
acres that they let us use.
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So it's a
beautiful big piece of land.
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And it gives us a lot of space
to be able to use and train,
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they've got
cliffs, valleys, creeks,
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we're able to spread
across this land and use it
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for different training purposes.
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So on that first
week of survival,
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we spend the first three
days training the students
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'cause we don't just
put them out and say,
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"Hey, figure it out."
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We train them first. Good.
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Then we teach them
how to build shelters,
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what plants are safe to
eat, how to purify water,
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how to build snares,
how to find direction,
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north, south, east,
west, all that stuff.
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We teach them how to
do it over three days,
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and then the next
three days are solo.
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We have this huge long canyon
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with a creek
running down the middle
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and we spread them
out every half mile.
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And they have their
own space that they work.
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And for three days,
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they're out there by themselves.
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They have a list of tasks
that they have to accomplish.
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But a lot of it we try to
put a very spiritual focus on.
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And that gives them
time to journal, to pray,
00:18:25.17\00:18:27.34
we encourage them to
take their Bibles with them.
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And most of them
have never actually sat
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for that amount of time
to think about who am I,
00:18:31.91\00:18:34.68
what am I doing in my
life, what do I want to do,
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to listen to
God and like to pray
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for that amount of times.
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I mean, so they come out
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of the other side
of that three days
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much more
confident 'cause, going in,
00:18:45.92\00:18:47.72
a lot of them
think they can't do it.
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But they come
out feeling strong.
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If I can do that,
I can do anything.
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That's right. Wow.
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And then they also
feel much closer to God,
00:18:53.60\00:18:54.93
much more confident,
00:18:54.96\00:18:56.30
and they're able to
take on the next four weeks
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feeling good about themselves.
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Yeah.
00:19:00.24\00:19:01.57
That's something I
think I'd like to try out,
00:19:01.60\00:19:02.94
but I might need a
little bit of preconditioning.
00:19:02.97\00:19:04.31
I don't know.
00:19:04.34\00:19:05.67
And you teach them how to eat,
00:19:05.71\00:19:07.04
how to survive
on various plants?
00:19:07.08\00:19:09.08
Yeah, it's very limited.
00:19:09.11\00:19:10.45
So they know what
plants are safe to eat.
00:19:10.48\00:19:11.85
We teach them all the
rules about, you know,
00:19:11.88\00:19:13.45
such as have
edges, brushes around,
00:19:13.52\00:19:14.85
and which one is safe to eat
00:19:14.88\00:19:16.22
and aggregated fruits
and that kind of stuff,
00:19:16.25\00:19:19.59
what's good and safe.
00:19:19.62\00:19:22.89
And then for the actual
solo, they're only allowed
00:19:22.92\00:19:25.13
to take a very minimal
amount of stuff with them.
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So they have a knife,
00:19:27.03\00:19:28.36
a metal match, a water purifier,
00:19:28.40\00:19:30.30
whatever they're
wearing for a day hike,
00:19:30.37\00:19:31.77
a small backpack,
and some fishing line,
00:19:31.80\00:19:35.77
Para cord, snare wire, a
few other things like that.
00:19:36.74\00:19:38.91
But it's very limited,
00:19:38.94\00:19:40.28
no flashlight
like you were saying.
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No flashlight. No tent.
00:19:41.68\00:19:43.85
They get extra
credit for several things.
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Like if they don't
use their sleeping bag
00:19:45.28\00:19:46.92
and they build a
shelter that's warm enough
00:19:46.95\00:19:48.85
without having to
use a sleeping bag,
00:19:48.88\00:19:50.62
they get extra credit for that.
00:19:50.69\00:19:54.26
We do have safety
protocols built in as well.
00:19:54.29\00:19:56.02
So they have to mark a trail
00:19:56.06\00:19:57.96
from where we drop them
off to where their shelter is
00:19:57.99\00:20:00.60
so we can find them
in case of emergency.
00:20:00.63\00:20:02.93
We give them radios
and whistles in a black bag
00:20:02.96\00:20:05.40
that's sealed so
they can break into that
00:20:05.43\00:20:06.94
and radio for help
if they needed anything.
00:20:06.97\00:20:08.57
Critical situations.
00:20:08.60\00:20:10.21
Yeah.
00:20:10.24\00:20:11.84
We check on them
every morning and night.
00:20:11.87\00:20:13.48
So we have a mailbox
from where we drop them off.
00:20:13.51\00:20:17.05
Mailbox, you know,
00:20:17.08\00:20:18.41
it's just a little
Tupperware container
00:20:18.45\00:20:19.78
and it's waterproof
00:20:19.81\00:20:21.15
and we leave
flashcards in there,
00:20:21.18\00:20:22.75
and they'll just
tell us, you know,
00:20:22.78\00:20:25.39
"I didn't sleep
well last night,"
00:20:25.42\00:20:26.76
or "I'm doing
okay," or they just give us
00:20:26.79\00:20:28.12
a little update
about how they're doing.
00:20:28.16\00:20:29.49
And we check on that
every morning and night
00:20:29.52\00:20:30.93
just to see how they're doing,
00:20:30.96\00:20:32.29
but no verbal contact
unless something is happening
00:20:32.33\00:20:34.60
that we need to pull
them out for some reason.
00:20:34.63\00:20:36.33
That is really good
because what that does
00:20:36.36\00:20:38.00
is that rips us away
from the convenience,
00:20:38.03\00:20:39.97
"I don't have a spoon,
00:20:40.04\00:20:41.37
could somebody give
me something to eat?"
00:20:41.40\00:20:42.87
Wow!
00:20:42.90\00:20:44.24
You know, "Where's the cereal?"
00:20:44.31\00:20:45.64
I'm... "It's right around you.
00:20:45.67\00:20:47.01
It's in the forest." Everywhere.
00:20:47.04\00:20:48.38
It is really interesting.
00:20:48.41\00:20:49.74
It's off the
grid kind of training.
00:20:49.78\00:20:51.11
So you develop a mindset
00:20:51.15\00:20:54.05
that you begin to see in nature
00:20:54.12\00:20:55.58
and in situations
that may be traumatic
00:20:55.62\00:20:58.22
to the person
living in the city.
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You may see, "Wow!
00:21:00.39\00:21:01.72
There's so much out here
00:21:01.76\00:21:03.09
we have access
to in comparison."
00:21:03.12\00:21:04.99
And that's amazing.
00:21:05.03\00:21:06.36
You want to try it out, honey?
00:21:06.39\00:21:07.73
I don't know.
00:21:07.76\00:21:09.10
Actually would be interesting.
00:21:09.13\00:21:10.80
Well, I don't know.
00:21:10.87\00:21:12.20
Let's get back to
Malawi. That's right.
00:21:12.23\00:21:14.77
'Cause we have...
00:21:14.80\00:21:16.14
Tell us more about that.
00:21:16.17\00:21:17.87
The miracles,
there are some things
00:21:17.91\00:21:19.24
that happened in
Malawi that we brought...
00:21:19.27\00:21:21.01
you have some
videos and pictures,
00:21:21.04\00:21:22.64
maybe I think what we should do
00:21:22.68\00:21:24.05
is go to, maybe,
some of the videos
00:21:24.08\00:21:25.58
and then we'll
come back and dive
00:21:25.61\00:21:27.12
into the specifics of Malawi.
00:21:27.15\00:21:28.72
Maybe you could
lead us into what we see
00:21:28.75\00:21:30.39
or let us know
what we see afterwards.
00:21:30.42\00:21:32.65
Oh, if I could just give
you a brief of what they expect,
00:21:32.69\00:21:36.36
we went there,
obviously, like I said,
00:21:36.39\00:21:38.36
it's a semester abroad.
00:21:38.39\00:21:40.10
It's very service-oriented.
It's all about service.
00:21:40.13\00:21:43.50
The students know
that they're going there
00:21:43.57\00:21:46.47
to not necessarily get
much out of it for themselves.
00:21:46.50\00:21:50.51
It's academic, of course,
but it's service-oriented.
00:21:51.24\00:21:54.98
And we had a very
tight schedule planned.
00:21:55.01\00:21:58.98
We had everything,
you know, organized out,
00:22:01.62\00:22:03.92
everything that
was supposed to happen
00:22:03.99\00:22:05.32
because from
like my perspective,
00:22:05.35\00:22:07.36
from Andrew's perspective,
00:22:07.39\00:22:09.09
we have to make sure that
they meet certain requirements
00:22:09.12\00:22:11.03
because everything
is for letter grade,
00:22:11.06\00:22:14.60
and they have to be able
to accomplish those skills
00:22:14.63\00:22:16.53
in order to graduate, right?
00:22:16.56\00:22:18.10
Right.
00:22:18.13\00:22:19.47
However, while we were
there, near the very end
00:22:19.50\00:22:22.40
'cause we were there
from January until April,
00:22:22.44\00:22:25.34
so near the very end of March,
00:22:25.37\00:22:27.51
we had our regularly
scheduled programming,
00:22:27.58\00:22:30.78
if you will, and
that we were going to...
00:22:30.85\00:22:33.25
When the cyclone,
cyclone Ida came through
00:22:33.28\00:22:36.55
and devastated
parts of Mozambique
00:22:36.58\00:22:39.02
and the southern
portion of Malawi,
00:22:39.05\00:22:42.39
so when that hit,
00:22:42.42\00:22:45.26
the students were
aware of the situation
00:22:45.29\00:22:48.56
and they knew this
is actually something
00:22:48.60\00:22:50.37
that we're trained
to be able to help with.
00:22:50.40\00:22:53.00
They've gone through all
of the swift water rescue,
00:22:53.03\00:22:55.37
the technical rope rescue,
00:22:55.40\00:22:56.74
the survival, the
flood management classes.
00:22:56.81\00:22:59.51
They know what it's like.
00:22:59.54\00:23:01.28
They know what they need to do
in order to be able to respond.
00:23:01.31\00:23:04.31
Plus, we'd been there
for almost three months
00:23:04.35\00:23:06.92
at this point
doing medical clinics.
00:23:06.95\00:23:10.29
The majority of our
time was for medical clinics.
00:23:10.32\00:23:13.36
And so they're, you
know, very used to the routine.
00:23:13.39\00:23:17.23
And when this
happened, everyone is thinking,
00:23:17.26\00:23:19.36
"Hmm, is there may be a chance
that we could go and help?
00:23:19.39\00:23:23.37
'Cause we're here, like,
we're trained, we're capable,
00:23:24.30\00:23:27.14
and we're not
even that far away,
00:23:27.17\00:23:29.04
we're in the same
country that needs the help."
00:23:29.07\00:23:30.94
Yes.
00:23:30.97\00:23:32.31
So we knew it was
a great opportunity.
00:23:32.34\00:23:35.61
We didn't want to go against
what we had already planned,
00:23:35.64\00:23:39.61
but we also wanted to be
open to the leading of God.
00:23:40.22\00:23:42.92
And so we stopped and we prayed,
00:23:42.95\00:23:45.52
and we said, "God, you
know, we already have our plans.
00:23:45.55\00:23:49.52
We already have
this academic program
00:23:50.36\00:23:52.19
that we need to complete.
00:23:52.23\00:23:53.83
However, if it's your will,
00:23:53.90\00:23:56.97
if this is what
you want us to do,
00:23:57.00\00:23:58.33
if you want us to stop
what we're doing now and go
00:23:58.37\00:24:00.74
and respond to this disaster,
00:24:00.77\00:24:03.61
we need you to
answer our prayer,
00:24:03.64\00:24:05.57
we need a fleece."
00:24:05.61\00:24:06.98
So we put our
fleece down and we said,
00:24:07.01\00:24:09.34
if it's your will that we go,
00:24:09.38\00:24:11.01
we ask that we will
have an official invitation
00:24:11.05\00:24:14.58
by an official organization
like the Malawian government
00:24:14.62\00:24:18.45
or another NGO
that was responding,
00:24:18.49\00:24:21.06
they would reach
out to us and contact us
00:24:21.09\00:24:24.36
and ask us to go with them.
00:24:24.39\00:24:26.26
And it had to be that day
00:24:26.29\00:24:27.70
'cause we only had
a week worth of time
00:24:27.73\00:24:30.10
that we could
actually go and help.
00:24:30.17\00:24:31.57
So I said,
00:24:31.60\00:24:32.93
"God, if this is your
will, it'll happen today."
00:24:32.97\00:24:36.10
So we prayed about it all day,
00:24:36.14\00:24:37.84
we went about
our normal business
00:24:37.87\00:24:40.48
what we had planned
already for the day.
00:24:40.51\00:24:42.54
Which was
actually another huge honor
00:24:42.58\00:24:45.28
and kind of a God thing was
00:24:45.31\00:24:47.12
we were working
at the United Nations
00:24:47.15\00:24:48.48
High Commissioner for
Refugees refugee camp in Malawi,
00:24:48.52\00:24:51.79
which had over
30,000 refugees in it,
00:24:51.82\00:24:54.56
and a huge need there as well.
00:24:54.59\00:24:55.92
Yes.
00:24:55.96\00:24:57.53
And so we went to the camp
00:24:57.56\00:24:58.89
and met all the
right people there.
00:24:58.93\00:25:00.30
It was kind of a God
thing that they were all there
00:25:00.33\00:25:01.76
at the same time.
00:25:01.80\00:25:03.13
Yeah, it's true
'cause this is a...
00:25:03.16\00:25:04.77
You know, we had already known
00:25:04.80\00:25:06.13
that it was a possibility
that we would respond.
00:25:06.17\00:25:08.77
And we were there
at the camp, and the...
00:25:08.80\00:25:12.77
What was his position?
00:25:12.84\00:25:14.94
Gideon? Gideon's position.
00:25:14.98\00:25:16.58
He was the director
of health and response
00:25:16.61\00:25:18.58
for all refugees in the country.
00:25:18.61\00:25:19.95
Yeah.
00:25:20.02\00:25:21.35
And we had met him
a couple days earlier
00:25:21.38\00:25:22.72
and gotten to know him some.
00:25:22.75\00:25:24.29
And he just happened
to come back that day,
00:25:24.32\00:25:26.96
and we're like, "Oh, well, okay.
00:25:26.99\00:25:30.53
Do you know,
like, is there a need?
00:25:30.56\00:25:33.23
Does the government need
anybody to come and help?"
00:25:33.26\00:25:36.67
And he said, "Hm, I think yes."
00:25:36.70\00:25:39.43
It's like I happen to know
00:25:39.47\00:25:40.84
the deputy
director for the response.
00:25:40.87\00:25:42.70
Oh, my.
00:25:42.74\00:25:44.11
Let me give you
his phone number.
00:25:44.14\00:25:45.47
Oh, my.
00:25:45.51\00:25:46.84
So you already see the
pieces coming together.
00:25:46.88\00:25:48.21
I do. Yeah.
00:25:48.24\00:25:49.58
But you still have
to get the invitation?
00:25:49.61\00:25:50.95
Right, right, exactly.
00:25:50.98\00:25:52.31
So Andrew had
contacted them and explained
00:25:52.35\00:25:54.95
like the credentials that we had
00:25:54.98\00:25:56.42
and the experience that we had
00:25:56.45\00:25:58.79
and that we were
willing and able to help.
00:25:58.82\00:26:01.36
And like I said, we
were praying the whole day.
00:26:01.39\00:26:03.73
Dr. Kingsley was in
the camp too that day.
00:26:03.76\00:26:06.70
Okay. Yeah.
00:26:06.73\00:26:08.06
So we actually were
there and, you know,
00:26:08.10\00:26:10.37
praying about
this and what to do.
00:26:10.40\00:26:11.73
And like we said,
00:26:11.77\00:26:13.10
the director of
health for refugees
00:26:13.13\00:26:14.47
was in the camp that day.
00:26:14.50\00:26:17.34
And they introduced
us to the deputy director
00:26:17.41\00:26:19.37
for the response to
the cyclone from Malawi.
00:26:19.41\00:26:22.11
But also we were
working for the United Nations
00:26:22.14\00:26:24.58
at this point.
00:26:24.61\00:26:25.95
And we had signed a memorandum
of understanding with them
00:26:25.98\00:26:28.05
that we'd work in the camp,
you know, X amount of days.
00:26:28.08\00:26:31.62
And the head of office for UNHCR
00:26:31.65\00:26:34.49
was in the camp that day
00:26:34.52\00:26:36.26
meeting with
this other individual
00:26:36.29\00:26:38.29
that gave us the phone number.
00:26:38.33\00:26:39.83
And we had them both
there at the same time.
00:26:39.86\00:26:41.60
"Yes, there's a need.
00:26:41.63\00:26:42.96
I'll connect you
with the right person."
00:26:43.00\00:26:44.33
And Dr. Kingsley,
the director of UNHCR,
00:26:44.37\00:26:47.27
the country director said
00:26:47.34\00:26:48.84
"Yes, I realized there's a need,
00:26:48.87\00:26:51.14
you can leave your memorandum
of understanding early
00:26:51.17\00:26:53.51
and go to the response."
00:26:53.58\00:26:55.01
So we released and allowed to go
00:26:55.04\00:26:56.41
and we were given the
context on how to get there.
00:26:56.44\00:27:02.68
But still no invitation.
00:27:02.72\00:27:04.09
But still, right, you need that.
00:27:04.12\00:27:05.45
Yeah.
00:27:05.49\00:27:06.82
But, like, the
steps were being laid,
00:27:06.86\00:27:08.76
and we went
through the entire day,
00:27:08.79\00:27:11.93
still had heard nothing.
00:27:11.96\00:27:14.33
We were kind of
starting to wonder,
00:27:14.36\00:27:16.43
"Maybe this isn't God's will."
00:27:16.46\00:27:17.80
You know, it was late at night.
00:27:17.83\00:27:19.63
We were getting
ready for bed actually.
00:27:19.67\00:27:23.27
And I think we
might have actually
00:27:23.30\00:27:24.64
even just like said goodnight
00:27:24.67\00:27:26.01
and we were already,
like, just done for the day.
00:27:26.04\00:27:27.84
And we had
actually just sat down
00:27:27.88\00:27:29.71
and Andrew looked
at me and he's like,
00:27:29.74\00:27:31.78
"Well, maybe
it's not God's will.
00:27:31.81\00:27:33.45
Maybe we're not
supposed to respond."
00:27:33.52\00:27:35.95
And this was at like,
11:00, 11:30 at night.
00:27:35.98\00:27:38.99
And he just, you know,
00:27:39.02\00:27:40.66
picked his
phone up to plug it in
00:27:40.69\00:27:42.32
and saw that there was an email
00:27:42.36\00:27:44.46
sitting there in his
inbox at 11:30 at night
00:27:44.49\00:27:47.10
from the Malawian...
00:27:47.13\00:27:49.83
Deputy director of response.
00:27:49.86\00:27:51.20
Yeah, asking us to please come.
00:27:51.23\00:27:52.77
Look at that.
00:27:52.80\00:27:54.40
So when you see the
response come through,
00:27:54.44\00:27:56.44
you know, God is
obviously saying,
00:27:56.47\00:27:58.51
"This is what I want you to do."
00:27:58.54\00:27:59.87
And it changes
your whole perspective.
00:27:59.91\00:28:02.04
So the Lord is now taking over
00:28:02.08\00:28:03.58
and we're gonna
follow into His mission.
00:28:03.65\00:28:05.35
And you brought some pictures
and some videos with you
00:28:05.38\00:28:07.98
to kind of walk us through that.
00:28:08.02\00:28:09.35
We'll go to the pictures first
and you tell us what we see.
00:28:09.38\00:28:11.72
Sure.
00:28:11.75\00:28:13.09
So this here is a
picture of our team.
00:28:13.12\00:28:15.59
You can see the blue T-shirts
00:28:15.62\00:28:17.99
with our IR logo
over their shoulder.
00:28:18.03\00:28:21.33
The people in uniform
00:28:21.36\00:28:23.00
are actually the
Malawi Defense Force
00:28:23.03\00:28:25.63
as well as the South
African Defense Force.
00:28:25.67\00:28:28.14
South Africa actually came
up with a helicopter and medics
00:28:28.17\00:28:31.74
to help provide
medical relief for Malawi.
00:28:31.77\00:28:35.41
And supplies too,
food, water, bedding.
00:28:35.44\00:28:37.98
This is us packing,
00:28:38.01\00:28:39.35
trying to get
ready for the morning
00:28:39.38\00:28:41.62
because the roads,
00:28:41.65\00:28:44.09
everything was
just completely flooded
00:28:44.12\00:28:45.82
and washed out.
00:28:45.85\00:28:47.19
And so the only way for
us to access these clinics
00:28:47.26\00:28:50.53
was by helicopter.
00:28:50.56\00:28:52.53
So the South African
military actually flew us in
00:28:52.56\00:28:56.53
via helicopter
over the flooding.
00:28:57.17\00:28:59.87
We only had so many
pounds we could take on with us.
00:28:59.90\00:29:03.91
So we know we're going to
be seeing hundreds of patients,
00:29:04.64\00:29:07.91
but we only have X
amount of medications
00:29:07.94\00:29:11.38
that we can
actually take with us.
00:29:11.41\00:29:12.78
So we had to pack
very strategically.
00:29:12.81\00:29:15.75
And this is us
landing on our first mission
00:29:15.78\00:29:18.45
with the South
African Defense Force.
00:29:18.49\00:29:20.66
You can see the
people just waiting.
00:29:20.69\00:29:22.59
They heard the helicopter coming
00:29:22.62\00:29:24.06
from long ways off.
00:29:24.13\00:29:25.49
That's me there in the in
the Rescue and Relief shirt.
00:29:25.53\00:29:28.26
And they heard us coming
and they knew it was help.
00:29:28.30\00:29:32.13
And these are people that
00:29:32.17\00:29:33.54
actually the rainy
season was happening.
00:29:33.57\00:29:37.31
Yeah, here you can
see they're clapping.
00:29:37.71\00:29:39.34
Beautiful.
They're happy to see you.
00:29:39.37\00:29:41.78
Yes. Oh.
00:29:41.81\00:29:44.25
They're glad that
some help has come.
00:29:44.28\00:29:47.52
When you get to
that kind of setting,
00:29:47.55\00:29:50.59
how do you just you
just kick into gear.
00:29:50.62\00:29:53.05
I mean, tell me what do you do
00:29:53.09\00:29:54.49
when you just land
and what happens next?
00:29:54.52\00:29:58.03
Well,
thankfully, we had been doing
00:29:58.06\00:30:00.33
three months of medical clinics,
00:30:00.40\00:30:01.86
leading up to this point.
00:30:01.90\00:30:03.60
So the students
that we took with us,
00:30:03.67\00:30:05.40
they were well trained,
they knew exactly their roles,
00:30:05.43\00:30:08.10
they knew exactly what to do,
00:30:08.14\00:30:09.47
and they knew how
to do it very well.
00:30:09.50\00:30:11.67
And so as soon as we would land,
00:30:11.71\00:30:13.48
we'd carry our
gear off the aircraft,
00:30:13.51\00:30:16.51
and usually, we would
meet with the village chief,
00:30:16.54\00:30:19.35
and they would direct us
00:30:19.38\00:30:20.75
to a building that we could use.
00:30:20.82\00:30:23.05
So there's no standard
clinic building in each village.
00:30:23.08\00:30:28.49
So it's whatever
they have to offer.
00:30:28.52\00:30:30.33
Sometimes it was one
classroom from their school.
00:30:30.36\00:30:33.60
Sometimes it was a church.
00:30:33.63\00:30:35.80
Sometimes they did
have a clinic facility,
00:30:35.83\00:30:37.93
but they had no
clinicians or medications.
00:30:37.97\00:30:41.00
And so they would let
us use the empty building.
00:30:41.04\00:30:43.54
It really would just depend.
00:30:43.61\00:30:45.94
And so as soon as we would land,
00:30:45.97\00:30:47.88
we'd carry our gear out
and the students knew exactly.
00:30:47.91\00:30:51.88
Andrew had them writing
up all of the FEMA documents,
00:30:52.48\00:30:56.48
basically, you can explain it
00:30:56.89\00:30:58.22
so the students
knew their role each day.
00:30:58.25\00:31:01.36
Yeah.
00:31:01.39\00:31:02.72
So while Kalie was out
00:31:02.76\00:31:04.73
managing the
clinics and everything,
00:31:04.76\00:31:06.09
I was the one
staying back in the capital
00:31:06.13\00:31:09.23
or in the base of operations,
working with the other players,
00:31:09.26\00:31:12.93
so the Malawi
Defense Force commanders
00:31:12.97\00:31:14.87
and the South African
Defense Force commanders
00:31:14.90\00:31:18.07
and planning for the next day
and where we go the next day,
00:31:18.11\00:31:21.94
and like who would do
what, and that kind of stuff,
00:31:21.98\00:31:23.78
and we would take, like we said,
00:31:23.85\00:31:25.65
we train all of our students
00:31:25.68\00:31:27.02
in the incident
command structure
00:31:27.05\00:31:28.38
from the same system
00:31:28.42\00:31:29.75
that we use
across the US with FEMA.
00:31:29.78\00:31:32.15
And we use all the same forms.
00:31:32.19\00:31:33.86
We had our
emergency operation planner
00:31:33.89\00:31:37.33
for the whole response.
00:31:37.36\00:31:38.69
And then every day, we'd write
a new incident action plan,
00:31:38.73\00:31:40.60
so what we were doing
for that operational period.
00:31:40.63\00:31:43.20
And everybody had
their work assignment
00:31:43.23\00:31:44.57
and knew exactly
what their role was.
00:31:44.60\00:31:46.10
So as soon as we got on ground,
00:31:46.13\00:31:47.90
everybody knew exactly
what they were supposed to do
00:31:47.94\00:31:50.24
and what was
expected of them, so...
00:31:50.31\00:31:52.54
We were totally
like self-sufficient,
00:31:52.57\00:31:55.88
basically, clinic.
00:31:55.91\00:31:57.68
So we had our own intake.
00:31:57.71\00:31:59.08
We had students working triage
00:31:59.11\00:32:00.45
where they would
get everybody's vitals
00:32:00.52\00:32:01.95
and chief complaints.
00:32:01.98\00:32:03.32
We could determine
who was the most sick.
00:32:03.39\00:32:06.79
And so if there was
somebody that had a dire need,
00:32:06.86\00:32:10.63
we could get them to
the front of the line
00:32:10.66\00:32:12.13
to see a doctor immediately.
00:32:12.16\00:32:13.50
This here, this
picture is them in triage.
00:32:13.53\00:32:15.60
You can see the
line forming behind them.
00:32:15.63\00:32:17.37
Long line. Yes.
00:32:17.40\00:32:19.30
So we had triage,
00:32:19.33\00:32:20.67
we had students
working, seeing patients.
00:32:20.74\00:32:24.64
At this point, like I
said, they had seen hundreds,
00:32:24.67\00:32:27.11
they'd seen
thousands of patients
00:32:27.18\00:32:28.51
by the time we were
done with the semester.
00:32:28.54\00:32:31.01
Here is our lab, actually.
00:32:31.05\00:32:32.55
We could test blood,
we could test for malaria,
00:32:32.58\00:32:36.82
we could test, you know, urine
00:32:36.89\00:32:39.65
to see if they had
infections or anything like that
00:32:39.69\00:32:42.26
so we would know better
medications to prescribe.
00:32:42.29\00:32:46.53
Here's just more
intake seeing patients.
00:32:46.56\00:32:51.20
So we had providers as well.
00:32:51.23\00:32:53.74
We did hire Malawian
doctors to come with us
00:32:53.77\00:32:56.81
to oversee everything
'cause we're not doctors.
00:32:56.84\00:32:59.67
So we're just making sure
00:32:59.71\00:33:01.04
that the standard of
care we were providing
00:33:01.08\00:33:03.45
was as high as possible.
00:33:03.48\00:33:04.95
The doctors signed
off on everything we did.
00:33:04.98\00:33:07.52
And then of course,
00:33:07.55\00:33:08.88
they'd end with
medications from our pharmacy.
00:33:08.92\00:33:11.32
This picture I'd like
to stop on for one second.
00:33:11.35\00:33:14.06
This is an
internally displaced camp.
00:33:14.09\00:33:17.43
You can see here this is...
00:33:17.46\00:33:18.83
These are people
from many, many villages
00:33:18.86\00:33:21.90
that have lost everything.
00:33:21.93\00:33:23.87
Their homes have
been washed away,
00:33:23.90\00:33:25.30
their crops have been ruined.
00:33:25.33\00:33:27.14
They've most likely
lost all of their possessions
00:33:27.17\00:33:28.97
except for what
they could carry.
00:33:29.00\00:33:31.34
And you can see,
this was lunchtime,
00:33:31.37\00:33:34.58
so the women are just.
00:33:34.61\00:33:36.08
They have claimed stake
00:33:36.11\00:33:37.45
on this one section of concrete.
00:33:37.48\00:33:38.95
They're starting to cook lunch.
00:33:38.98\00:33:41.38
You can see behind
them the many, many sheds.
00:33:41.42\00:33:44.79
Pavilions.
00:33:44.82\00:33:46.15
Pavilions,
yeah, they're massive,
00:33:46.19\00:33:48.42
with hundreds of people in each.
00:33:48.46\00:33:50.26
And that's all they have
to their name at this point.
00:33:50.33\00:33:53.50
In this camp,
00:33:53.53\00:33:55.06
they had 30 different
camps across the country...
00:33:55.10\00:33:57.07
yeah, across the affected area
00:33:57.10\00:33:58.43
and that camp specifically
was one of the bigger ones.
00:33:58.63\00:34:01.27
They had about
13,000 people in that camp.
00:34:01.30\00:34:03.94
That many?
00:34:04.01\00:34:05.34
What were the needs?
00:34:05.37\00:34:07.01
Everything. Everything?
00:34:07.08\00:34:08.41
Yeah. Food, water, bug nets.
00:34:08.44\00:34:10.48
I mean, 'cause
imagine the floodwaters rising
00:34:10.55\00:34:12.78
and you can just take
with you what you can carry,
00:34:12.81\00:34:15.98
you know, so they
lost their clothes,
00:34:16.02\00:34:17.59
their schoolbooks, their...
00:34:17.62\00:34:19.49
You know, everything, they lost.
00:34:19.52\00:34:22.26
Yeah. Yeah. Terrible.
00:34:22.29\00:34:24.23
Some of the miracle
stories that happen out of this
00:34:24.26\00:34:25.99
because I know that when you
go on a mission for the Lord,
00:34:26.03\00:34:29.43
He's not just going
to send you and say,
00:34:29.46\00:34:30.80
"Well, hey, handle
it, you're trained."
00:34:30.87\00:34:33.44
The Lord often moves mountains
00:34:33.47\00:34:36.74
to make what we think
is very, very difficult,
00:34:36.81\00:34:39.77
obvious that he's
involved in the mix.
00:34:39.81\00:34:41.54
What are some of the
things you experienced
00:34:41.58\00:34:43.65
when you're out on the service,
00:34:43.68\00:34:45.61
serving these
individuals that, you know,
00:34:45.65\00:34:47.05
"Hey, this is a God thing.
00:34:47.12\00:34:48.45
He's working in here.
00:34:48.48\00:34:50.69
He's moving in our behalf."
00:34:50.72\00:34:53.02
I think in addition
00:34:53.05\00:34:55.19
to obviously Him calling us
to go as we specifically asked,
00:34:55.22\00:35:01.06
We also had the
issue of funding it,
00:35:01.10\00:35:03.67
because we had to be able
to buy all of the medications
00:35:03.70\00:35:07.04
for our very own pharmacy.
00:35:07.07\00:35:08.77
We had to be able to buy food
and water and things like that
00:35:08.80\00:35:12.44
for our staff just
so that we can feed them
00:35:12.47\00:35:15.41
and make sure that they
we're staying healthy as well.
00:35:15.44\00:35:17.98
Like here we said, we
were totally self-contained.
00:35:18.01\00:35:20.22
We had our own
physicians, we had our own team,
00:35:20.25\00:35:22.08
we had our own food,
water, shelter, transportation,
00:35:22.12\00:35:26.12
as far as
vehicles and everything.
00:35:26.15\00:35:27.99
So we had to be
that self-contained unit
00:35:28.02\00:35:29.82
so that we weren't a burden
00:35:29.86\00:35:31.19
on anybody else in the response.
00:35:31.23\00:35:32.96
Because there's
already short supply
00:35:32.99\00:35:34.33
we don't want to add to that.
00:35:34.36\00:35:35.70
Yeah, and at this point,
00:35:35.73\00:35:37.07
it was near the
end of the semester,
00:35:37.10\00:35:38.43
our like, funds
had been drained.
00:35:38.47\00:35:40.84
We had just enough to finish out
00:35:40.87\00:35:42.47
the last couple
of weeks as planned
00:35:42.50\00:35:44.21
not to fund a
huge response effort.
00:35:44.24\00:35:47.28
So the day after we got the call
00:35:47.31\00:35:49.78
at 11:30 at night
saying, please come,
00:35:49.81\00:35:51.55
we told the
students the next morning
00:35:51.58\00:35:53.21
and we said to them, like,
00:35:53.25\00:35:55.02
obviously, you
know, "This is God's will,
00:35:55.05\00:35:56.55
He's asked us to go,
He's called us to go,
00:35:56.58\00:35:59.19
and He's not
gonna let us down now,
00:35:59.22\00:36:01.49
but we need you
to pray for money.
00:36:01.52\00:36:04.36
We need you to pray for funds
because we can't afford this.
00:36:04.39\00:36:07.70
So the students, they
all started praying as well.
00:36:07.73\00:36:11.70
They went about
their day as usual too
00:36:11.73\00:36:13.97
because there's very little
we could do in preparation
00:36:14.04\00:36:16.30
without some money coming in.
00:36:16.34\00:36:18.81
But by early afternoon,
00:36:18.84\00:36:24.18
we went from absolutely
no money for this response
00:36:24.25\00:36:27.42
to having $13,000 dispatched
00:36:27.45\00:36:30.19
in response in
a matter of hours.
00:36:30.22\00:36:32.22
And mind you,
00:36:32.25\00:36:33.59
this is the
middle of the day Malawi,
00:36:33.66\00:36:35.52
which is the
middle of the night US
00:36:35.56\00:36:37.53
where all their
friends and family are.
00:36:37.56\00:36:39.46
How did you raise the funds?
00:36:39.49\00:36:41.10
Sorry? How did
you raise the funds?
00:36:41.13\00:36:43.10
It was generous friends
and family of our students.
00:36:43.13\00:36:46.17
Oh, what a
blessing! Look at that.
00:36:46.20\00:36:47.77
Then we put a call out as well
to some of our previous donors.
00:36:47.80\00:36:51.34
So one that was very gracious
00:36:51.37\00:36:53.51
and worked with us
in a previous response,
00:36:53.58\00:36:54.91
this is not the first
response we've gone to,
00:36:54.94\00:36:56.28
we've also been
to, you know, Haiti.
00:36:56.31\00:36:59.55
Ike, Sandy.
00:36:59.58\00:37:01.45
Harvey in Texas, you know,
00:37:01.48\00:37:02.82
we've gone to
several in the past, so...
00:37:02.85\00:37:04.42
So not just overseas but
also some in the country,
00:37:04.45\00:37:07.99
rescue situations,
you mentioned Texas.
00:37:08.02\00:37:10.63
Yeah.
00:37:10.66\00:37:11.99
We led the team down to Texas
a couple years ago as well.
00:37:12.03\00:37:15.20
That was a big response as well.
00:37:15.23\00:37:16.77
So we reached out to
some of those same donors
00:37:16.80\00:37:18.37
who had helped us in the past.
00:37:18.40\00:37:19.97
Brother's Brother
being one of them.
00:37:20.04\00:37:21.37
They're a great NGO
that works overseas as well.
00:37:21.40\00:37:24.61
They gave us some funding.
00:37:24.64\00:37:25.97
We had some
people from California,
00:37:26.01\00:37:27.91
the Napa Valley Association
gave us some funding as well.
00:37:27.94\00:37:31.78
Different family members.
00:37:31.81\00:37:33.15
Yeah.
00:37:33.18\00:37:34.78
It was amazing to
see the generosity
00:37:34.82\00:37:36.28
that came to us with that.
00:37:36.32\00:37:37.89
So literally within
hours of our first miracle,
00:37:37.92\00:37:41.26
we had our second miracle
00:37:41.29\00:37:42.62
where we'd
actually raised more money
00:37:42.66\00:37:44.59
than we even
thought we would need.
00:37:44.63\00:37:46.56
We had estimated we
would need about 10,000
00:37:46.59\00:37:48.76
and 13,000 had been
pledged right off the bat.
00:37:48.80\00:37:52.33
So that was definitely just,
00:37:52.37\00:37:54.14
you know, we already
knew that it was God's will
00:37:54.17\00:37:56.37
but if there was any doubt
00:37:56.40\00:37:57.74
in any of our minds,
any of the students' minds
00:37:57.77\00:38:00.11
there was no way
they could wonder anymore.
00:38:00.18\00:38:01.71
Now what would money provide?
00:38:01.74\00:38:03.55
What would that
might be used for?
00:38:03.58\00:38:06.05
So it was for every
single step of the operation.
00:38:06.08\00:38:09.25
So we hired vehicles,
00:38:09.28\00:38:11.32
as we needed to be
able to transport ourselves
00:38:11.35\00:38:13.05
back down to the south.
00:38:13.09\00:38:14.99
It was what funded our pharmacy,
00:38:15.02\00:38:19.26
so we were able to
purchase medications,
00:38:19.29\00:38:22.30
the lab
equipment that we needed,
00:38:22.33\00:38:25.30
things like that.
00:38:25.33\00:38:26.67
Medications are expensive,
00:38:26.74\00:38:28.07
that's where the
majority of the money went
00:38:28.10\00:38:29.44
was to the pharmacy.
00:38:29.47\00:38:30.81
Yes, they're very,
very, very expensive.
00:38:30.84\00:38:32.67
But we were able to
actually get discounts
00:38:32.71\00:38:34.74
even for that,
which was another miracle
00:38:34.78\00:38:37.05
that God provided
our money went further.
00:38:37.08\00:38:38.81
Having worked with the
Adventist Health System
00:38:38.85\00:38:40.22
for the last few months,
00:38:40.25\00:38:42.28
we were actually
basing out of the hospital
00:38:42.32\00:38:43.69
where my parents
were working at the time,
00:38:43.72\00:38:45.15
or are still working, we
were with them at the time.
00:38:45.19\00:38:48.26
And the business
manager there said,
00:38:48.29\00:38:50.83
"Hey, you can use
our pharmacy number
00:38:50.86\00:38:52.56
and buy the drugs at
wholesale instead of retail."
00:38:52.59\00:38:55.63
Wow.
00:38:55.66\00:38:57.00
So that's saved us a
huge amount of money,
00:38:57.07\00:38:58.60
we were able to
make it go much farther.
00:38:58.63\00:39:00.14
Yup.
00:39:00.17\00:39:01.50
Now the reason I
asked that question
00:39:01.54\00:39:02.87
is because first you
have to get the invitation,
00:39:02.90\00:39:05.81
the Lord opened that door
late in the midnight hour.
00:39:05.84\00:39:10.05
And then, "Okay,
we got the invitation
00:39:10.08\00:39:11.75
but what are we gonna use?"
00:39:11.78\00:39:14.55
And that's where
the funds came in.
00:39:14.58\00:39:16.28
We're glad to go now
00:39:16.32\00:39:17.65
but Lord, what are we gonna
use to help this relief effort?
00:39:17.69\00:39:20.56
We know there's gonna be a lot
of need food, clothing, water,
00:39:20.59\00:39:24.56
but then the supplies,
the medicine, the triage,
00:39:24.59\00:39:26.56
that you're gonna carry on.
00:39:26.59\00:39:28.83
The reason I'm
saying is because we...
00:39:28.86\00:39:30.20
Remember, we did a triage
in the jungles of Zimbabwe.
00:39:30.27\00:39:32.80
With Maranatha, yeah.
00:39:32.83\00:39:34.97
Yeah, we went out there.
00:39:35.00\00:39:36.34
You almost had a chance
to pull somebody's teeth.
00:39:36.37\00:39:37.94
Yeah, was supposed
to pull someone's tooth,
00:39:37.97\00:39:40.08
then they said we got
to go, I was so happy.
00:39:40.11\00:39:42.51
Said we got to go
now and so I was...
00:39:42.54\00:39:44.35
They were showing me,
00:39:44.38\00:39:45.71
they said, we'd
like you to pull a tooth
00:39:45.75\00:39:47.12
and, you know, the
dental guy was there.
00:39:47.15\00:39:48.88
He was there, he already
numbed and everything needed,
00:39:48.92\00:39:50.32
showed her how to do it.
00:39:50.39\00:39:51.72
And he was training on the spot.
00:39:51.75\00:39:53.09
He said, "Would you
like to pull a tooth?"
00:39:53.12\00:39:54.72
"Okay."
00:39:54.76\00:39:58.03
I was rescued
at the last minute.
00:39:58.06\00:39:59.56
Well, we need to go.
00:39:59.59\00:40:02.03
But the triage idea
00:40:02.06\00:40:03.40
in a situation
like this in Africa,
00:40:03.47\00:40:05.33
you know, there's some very,
very developed parts of Africa.
00:40:05.37\00:40:07.47
But then when you go into
these underdeveloped areas...
00:40:07.54\00:40:10.54
Post disaster.
00:40:10.61\00:40:12.01
Post disaster, that's
the other aspect of it.
00:40:12.21\00:40:14.11
It's not only, you
know, homes that are built
00:40:14.18\00:40:15.98
out of some of the
most basic elements
00:40:16.01\00:40:18.28
that are available,
but then all of a sudden
00:40:18.31\00:40:20.12
a flood or a tornado,
or in this case a cyclone,
00:40:20.15\00:40:23.05
which is a tornado in America,
00:40:23.08\00:40:24.69
comes through
and just devastates,
00:40:24.72\00:40:26.05
water blows away
everything a person has,
00:40:26.09\00:40:28.39
you're going into a
very disadvantaged situation.
00:40:28.42\00:40:30.96
And then what about the chances
00:40:30.99\00:40:32.43
of getting malaria and all, that
00:40:32.46\00:40:33.80
that's also
heightened, isn't it?
00:40:33.83\00:40:36.03
Typhoid, cholera,
all of these things,
00:40:36.06\00:40:37.80
the chances of
contracting it goes up.
00:40:37.83\00:40:40.47
Yeah, which for our team,
00:40:40.54\00:40:41.87
we were already
taking malaria prophylaxis
00:40:41.90\00:40:43.44
and other and had vaccinations
00:40:43.51\00:40:44.84
to prevent most of these things,
00:40:44.87\00:40:46.41
but for the
indigenous population,
00:40:46.44\00:40:49.24
a lot of them don't.
00:40:49.28\00:40:50.65
Yeah.
00:40:50.68\00:40:52.01
I like what you
were just saying.
00:40:52.05\00:40:53.38
I think that's a
very important concept.
00:40:53.42\00:40:54.88
Because floods in the US
are absolutely devastating,
00:40:54.92\00:40:59.25
families lose
everything and it's horrible.
00:40:59.29\00:41:02.36
But a flood in the
US does not wipe away
00:41:02.39\00:41:04.49
our food supply
for the next year.
00:41:04.53\00:41:05.86
No, so true.
00:41:05.89\00:41:07.23
And that's what these people
are facing currently right now
00:41:07.30\00:41:09.80
is that these floods
have washed away their crops.
00:41:09.83\00:41:12.70
And at this point,
there's no chance for them
00:41:12.73\00:41:14.44
to be able to recover that
food before the next season.
00:41:14.47\00:41:18.04
When you're a
subsistence farmer,
00:41:18.07\00:41:19.71
and you have no
other source of income
00:41:19.74\00:41:21.64
and you're living
off of what you eat
00:41:21.68\00:41:23.58
and sell the extra
for a little bit of money,
00:41:23.65\00:41:26.05
now you've lost your
livelihood and your food.
00:41:26.08\00:41:28.45
That's right,
because we saw a home,
00:41:28.48\00:41:31.09
I think it was in
either Zimbabwe or Zambia,
00:41:31.12\00:41:33.39
that was pretty
much a thatched hut.
00:41:33.46\00:41:35.96
You know, the kind of
mud and straw and all.
00:41:35.99\00:41:38.29
And we saw a hole in
the wall of it, and we said,
00:41:38.33\00:41:40.70
"What will it cost to fix that?"
00:41:40.73\00:41:42.90
And it really broke
our hearts to see that,
00:41:42.93\00:41:44.63
"Well, if a really
heavy rain came through,
00:41:44.67\00:41:47.07
we know that that house
would just disintegrate.
00:41:47.14\00:41:50.14
But the Lord was able
to reach out and touch.
00:41:50.21\00:41:52.74
So you're in that
kind of a situation
00:41:52.77\00:41:54.21
when you go to
places like Malawi,
00:41:54.28\00:41:56.88
how do you determine...
00:41:56.95\00:41:58.91
Excuse me, how do you determine
00:41:58.95\00:42:00.55
when your need,
00:42:00.75\00:42:02.72
when your services
have supplied enough need
00:42:02.75\00:42:06.65
so that you could
leave it now to the locals,
00:42:06.69\00:42:08.49
or to the
government and you say,
00:42:08.52\00:42:09.96
"Okay, it's time for us
to pull back or move out."
00:42:10.03\00:42:13.40
So we were doing, as
I said, medical clinics,
00:42:13.43\00:42:15.83
but we were also
basically an assessment team
00:42:15.86\00:42:18.40
on the ground
for the government.
00:42:18.43\00:42:19.77
Okay.
00:42:19.80\00:42:21.14
So we were going to
places getting out there
00:42:21.17\00:42:23.71
like, right away
as soon as we could,
00:42:23.74\00:42:25.61
they were taking us there.
00:42:25.64\00:42:27.51
And these villages had,
00:42:27.58\00:42:28.91
some of them like we
said, a thousands of people.
00:42:28.94\00:42:30.95
In our team, we
didn't have enough capacity
00:42:30.98\00:42:34.92
within our team to be able
to treat all thousands of them.
00:42:34.95\00:42:38.75
But what we could do then is
00:42:38.79\00:42:40.16
we could treat the
most immediate needs,
00:42:40.19\00:42:43.43
then the sickest of the
sick, we could treat them.
00:42:43.46\00:42:45.99
And then what I was
doing every day was,
00:42:46.03\00:42:48.70
I was taking statistics
00:42:48.73\00:42:51.07
of all of the
patients that we'd seen.
00:42:51.10\00:42:52.83
Sometimes hundreds of people
I was tracking the statistics,
00:42:52.87\00:42:56.47
and then I would report those
00:42:56.50\00:42:57.84
to the government at
the end of the day saying,
00:42:57.87\00:42:59.54
"This place, we have
outbreaks of schistosomiasis,"
00:42:59.57\00:43:03.35
or something like this.
00:43:03.38\00:43:04.71
"This place has the most malaria
00:43:04.75\00:43:06.21
we've seen so far."
00:43:06.25\00:43:07.62
And I could tell the
government what we saw and then
00:43:07.65\00:43:10.19
they could at least
have, have an estimate
00:43:10.22\00:43:12.65
of how dire the need was there
00:43:12.69\00:43:14.86
and then they
could return later,
00:43:14.89\00:43:16.62
over and over again,
as the weeks progressed.
00:43:16.66\00:43:18.83
Wow.
00:43:18.86\00:43:20.20
And be able to talk to
people on ground and be like,
00:43:20.23\00:43:22.90
"What are your
biggest needs here now?
00:43:22.93\00:43:25.23
Is it water? Is it food?
00:43:25.27\00:43:26.60
Is it shelter? Is it bug nets?
00:43:26.63\00:43:27.97
Is it..."
00:43:28.00\00:43:29.34
You know, "What is
your biggest needs here?
00:43:29.37\00:43:30.71
And now what do
we need to take back
00:43:30.74\00:43:32.34
to the response committee
00:43:32.37\00:43:34.61
and so they know
what to be planning for
00:43:34.64\00:43:36.98
in the future.
00:43:37.05\00:43:38.38
So while we couldn't meet
every single person's need,
00:43:38.41\00:43:40.35
we hope that we at
least paved the way
00:43:40.42\00:43:41.85
for future response
teams and the government
00:43:41.88\00:43:44.82
to be able to come back
00:43:44.85\00:43:46.19
and meet those needs
better in the future.
00:43:46.22\00:43:48.69
Now you have needs,
don't you feel your school?
00:43:48.72\00:43:52.23
Aren't their needs
for Union College there?
00:43:52.26\00:43:55.46
You want to build whatever,
00:43:55.50\00:43:57.07
a technical rescue
center you were talking about?
00:43:57.10\00:44:00.34
Tell us about that?
00:44:00.37\00:44:01.80
So, you know,
00:44:01.84\00:44:03.30
we strive for
excellence in our program,
00:44:03.34\00:44:04.84
we really want to make
it the best that we can.
00:44:04.87\00:44:06.78
And I think that this
response is a prime example
00:44:06.81\00:44:09.64
of the quality of the education
00:44:09.68\00:44:11.55
that we've been able to provide.
00:44:11.58\00:44:13.92
The students were
ready and willing.
00:44:13.95\00:44:15.28
And, you know,
00:44:15.32\00:44:16.69
one another miracle
we didn't talk about
00:44:16.72\00:44:18.05
was how, when we showed up,
00:44:18.09\00:44:19.95
one of the
South African colonels
00:44:19.99\00:44:21.49
wasn't really
excited about us being there,
00:44:21.52\00:44:22.89
he wasn't sure of our capacity.
00:44:22.92\00:44:25.26
And by the end of it,
00:44:25.29\00:44:26.63
he sat us down
for a lessons learned
00:44:26.70\00:44:28.93
for 30 minutes and asked us
00:44:28.96\00:44:30.30
what we were doing
and why we worked so well
00:44:30.37\00:44:32.00
and he was impressed with us,
00:44:32.03\00:44:33.37
and what they could do better
for the continued response.
00:44:33.44\00:44:35.04
Wow!
00:44:35.07\00:44:36.40
The South
African military told us
00:44:36.44\00:44:37.77
that we were the
most professional team
00:44:37.81\00:44:39.21
they'd worked with there.
00:44:39.24\00:44:40.58
Wow, praise God.
00:44:40.61\00:44:41.94
So that was, you know,
00:44:41.98\00:44:43.35
a great testament to our program
00:44:43.38\00:44:44.71
and we want to keep
pushing to be better.
00:44:44.75\00:44:46.08
You never want to be stagnant.
00:44:46.11\00:44:47.45
You know, the
industry keeps pushing forward
00:44:47.48\00:44:48.82
and we want to be part of that.
00:44:48.85\00:44:50.39
You know, and as an academic
and educational facility
00:44:50.42\00:44:52.99
when we want to, you know,
00:44:53.02\00:44:54.36
spearhead some of the
best techniques out there
00:44:54.39\00:44:56.93
and teach our
students those things
00:44:56.96\00:44:58.29
to stay up on
the best practices.
00:44:58.33\00:45:01.13
So the technical rescue center,
00:45:01.16\00:45:02.60
tell us about the need for that,
00:45:02.63\00:45:05.20
and what it will facilitate.
00:45:05.23\00:45:06.77
We talked about that little bit.
00:45:06.84\00:45:08.17
I was very impressed
to look at the vision
00:45:08.20\00:45:11.67
that you had for that,
00:45:11.71\00:45:13.38
to know that it's
not just something
00:45:13.41\00:45:14.74
that would help the
school and the students,
00:45:14.78\00:45:16.85
but it has a larger capacity
00:45:16.88\00:45:18.28
to equip other
individuals, talk about that?
00:45:18.31\00:45:20.92
Yeah.
00:45:20.95\00:45:22.28
So we're in the very,
very beginning stages of it.
00:45:22.32\00:45:25.82
We've got some
architectural drawings
00:45:25.85\00:45:27.39
that, you know, a
local architectural firm
00:45:27.46\00:45:30.06
donate their time
and effort for us.
00:45:30.13\00:45:32.53
Probably about
$30,000 worth of effort
00:45:32.56\00:45:34.70
just for the drawings
have been given to us,
00:45:34.73\00:45:36.26
donated to us already.
00:45:36.30\00:45:37.63
Wow!
00:45:37.67\00:45:39.00
And they're amazing drawings,
places that we could, you know,
00:45:39.03\00:45:41.34
we could
practice, confine space,
00:45:41.37\00:45:43.24
rescue, trench
rescue, technical rope,
00:45:43.27\00:45:47.08
overturned
vehicles, collapse structure,
00:45:47.11\00:45:49.21
grain bin silo rescues,
00:45:49.24\00:45:50.58
all this kind of
stuff in this one building.
00:45:50.65\00:45:53.18
And there's nothing
like it in the Midwest.
00:45:53.21\00:45:55.55
There's some
things out in the...
00:45:55.58\00:45:56.92
on the east of west
coast like Seattle, California,
00:45:56.99\00:45:59.32
New York, Texas has
a couple of facilities,
00:45:59.35\00:46:01.19
but there's nothing in it
00:46:01.22\00:46:02.56
like that in the
Midwest that trains
00:46:02.59\00:46:04.23
to the National Fire Protection
Association standards.
00:46:04.26\00:46:07.73
Now which we do, we
train to those standards.
00:46:07.76\00:46:09.80
And we like to be able to
offer those training standards
00:46:09.83\00:46:14.14
and, you know, classes
to the fire departments
00:46:14.17\00:46:17.54
and response teams in our area.
00:46:17.61\00:46:20.68
We just had some
flooding in Nebraska
00:46:20.71\00:46:22.04
and we were able to
respond to that, as well,
00:46:22.08\00:46:24.18
a different team than us,
but also hire our students,
00:46:24.25\00:46:28.52
with the professors
that were still in the US.
00:46:28.72\00:46:30.29
Wow!
00:46:30.32\00:46:31.65
And during the
response and rescue efforts,
00:46:31.69\00:46:34.42
seven firefighters in
our region almost died,
00:46:34.46\00:46:36.73
because they didn't
have the proper training.
00:46:36.76\00:46:38.86
And we would like to change that
00:46:38.89\00:46:40.23
and be able to have a
center at Union College
00:46:40.30\00:46:42.70
that would be a
center of excellence
00:46:42.73\00:46:44.07
and be able to
provide that kind of training.
00:46:44.10\00:46:46.33
So what happened is
they encountered situations
00:46:46.37\00:46:48.07
that they didn't really
actually get training for.
00:46:48.10\00:46:50.41
But this facility,
00:46:50.44\00:46:51.77
because you talked about
some of the mock-ups I think,
00:46:51.81\00:46:53.78
I'm gonna use that phrase
mock-ups like silo rescue,
00:46:53.81\00:46:57.08
some of the other
things you just described.
00:46:57.15\00:46:59.01
If they
actually face that crisis
00:46:59.05\00:47:01.88
and knew how to handle
it in a mock-up of that set,
00:47:01.92\00:47:06.32
then they won't have to face
it for the first time and say,
00:47:06.35\00:47:08.29
"Now what do we do?" Exactly.
00:47:08.32\00:47:09.72
And that's kind of
what you're talking about.
00:47:09.76\00:47:11.09
Yeah.
00:47:11.13\00:47:12.46
So we teach this
swift water rescue,
00:47:12.49\00:47:13.83
flood management,
tech rope, confined space,
00:47:13.90\00:47:15.30
we do all that.
00:47:15.33\00:47:16.97
If we could train them
00:47:17.00\00:47:18.43
on how to do that
properly and safely,
00:47:18.47\00:47:20.44
we could prevent, you know,
00:47:20.47\00:47:21.80
rescuer deaths
and civilian deaths.
00:47:21.84\00:47:23.44
Because it's kind of like,
00:47:23.51\00:47:24.84
I'm in a situation
where I can only travel
00:47:24.87\00:47:26.44
from one place to
the next in a helicopter.
00:47:26.47\00:47:28.64
But then when we
get there, they say,
00:47:28.68\00:47:30.05
"Okay, well, we're not landing,
you have to parachute out."
00:47:30.08\00:47:32.75
And I say, "Well, I've
never parachuted before."
00:47:32.78\00:47:35.05
"Well just put it on and
just kind of pull the rope
00:47:35.08\00:47:36.89
and you see that thing goes red,
00:47:36.92\00:47:38.25
and just land and
pull your feet up.
00:47:38.29\00:47:40.86
You should be okay."
00:47:40.89\00:47:42.69
That's kind of what
you're talking about.
00:47:42.72\00:47:44.06
There are situations
00:47:44.13\00:47:45.46
where unfortunately people
that are very well trained
00:47:45.49\00:47:47.60
in other areas are not trained
00:47:47.63\00:47:49.33
and they could
really risk their lives.
00:47:49.36\00:47:50.70
Oh, yeah.
00:47:50.77\00:47:52.10
Not only theirs,
but the other people
00:47:52.13\00:47:53.47
they're trying to take care of.
00:47:53.50\00:47:54.84
Yeah.
00:47:54.87\00:47:56.20
In the rescue world,
00:47:56.24\00:47:57.57
we say never try
anything new unseen,
00:47:57.61\00:47:58.94
you need to practice it first
00:47:58.97\00:48:00.61
before you try
in the real world.
00:48:00.68\00:48:03.75
And there's always a
priority of rescuers too, like
00:48:03.78\00:48:07.65
you are the highest
priority on a rescue scene.
00:48:07.68\00:48:10.39
Because if you go into a
place that you're not trained
00:48:10.42\00:48:12.55
or capable to rescue in,
00:48:12.59\00:48:14.29
and you become another victim,
00:48:14.32\00:48:15.66
you've just made
the situation worse.
00:48:15.69\00:48:17.03
Wow!
00:48:17.06\00:48:18.39
Which is what
happened, these seven guys,
00:48:18.43\00:48:19.89
they went out to
try and save someone,
00:48:19.93\00:48:21.33
didn't know
what they were doing,
00:48:21.36\00:48:22.80
and then they got stuck
00:48:22.83\00:48:24.57
and the coast guard
had to come and save them.
00:48:24.60\00:48:25.93
And they just ended up
making the situation worse.
00:48:25.97\00:48:27.64
See?
00:48:27.67\00:48:29.00
And we want to
train how to prevent that.
00:48:29.04\00:48:30.71
To know what you're doing,
00:48:30.74\00:48:32.07
to be capable and be
able to make a difference.
00:48:32.11\00:48:34.68
What about vehicles?
Do you need vehicles?
00:48:34.71\00:48:38.08
So as part of our arsenal,
you know, goals to be better,
00:48:38.11\00:48:43.18
there's a few things
that we'd like to have
00:48:43.22\00:48:44.72
for our program that
would help us, you know,
00:48:44.75\00:48:47.56
more medical supplies
for EMT courses, that's...
00:48:47.59\00:48:50.33
Medical is a big
part of our program,
00:48:50.36\00:48:52.16
emergency medicine, as
well as a couple of vehicles
00:48:52.19\00:48:56.56
like for our
technical rescue side.
00:48:56.60\00:48:58.77
We'd like a big F-450
00:48:58.80\00:49:00.14
that we could put all
our rescue equipment on
00:49:00.17\00:49:02.54
and be able to
respond to scenes with that,
00:49:02.57\00:49:05.17
as well as an ambulance
also for the medical training.
00:49:05.21\00:49:07.74
That's an SUV F-450.
00:49:07.78\00:49:09.61
Yeah. A big pickup truck.
00:49:09.64\00:49:10.98
Big pickup truck. That's right.
00:49:11.01\00:49:12.35
With all our gear on.
00:49:12.38\00:49:14.58
Other things that would be great
00:49:14.62\00:49:15.95
would be more tech
rope gear, swift water gear,
00:49:15.98\00:49:18.12
flood management
gear like dry suits
00:49:18.15\00:49:19.62
and things like that.
00:49:19.65\00:49:20.99
We actually have a
full list. Wonderful.
00:49:21.02\00:49:22.76
We have a wish list for sure.
00:49:22.79\00:49:24.26
And you took a
response cash also,
00:49:24.33\00:49:25.93
just touch on that real quickly?
00:49:25.96\00:49:27.30
Yeah, so all of that
would go into our gear cash.
00:49:27.33\00:49:29.20
So it would help
us with our training,
00:49:29.23\00:49:31.43
our ability to
train the people around us
00:49:31.47\00:49:33.47
and our ability to respond.
00:49:33.54\00:49:34.94
Like we said, we've
been on many responses
00:49:34.97\00:49:38.01
and it's a part of
our real world experience
00:49:38.04\00:49:39.71
that our students
are trained for it
00:49:39.74\00:49:41.78
and then get that
experience in the real world
00:49:41.81\00:49:43.65
on an actual scene.
00:49:43.68\00:49:45.01
And that's why
we want to make sure
00:49:45.05\00:49:46.38
that our
listeners and our viewers
00:49:46.41\00:49:47.92
are going to be able to get
the information that they need.
00:49:47.95\00:49:50.59
Because this,
00:49:50.62\00:49:51.95
we're just touching
the tip of the iceberg.
00:49:51.99\00:49:54.62
I mean, we're
looking at their world
00:49:54.66\00:49:56.46
as it were through it,
00:49:56.49\00:49:57.89
through the
pinhole of television.
00:49:57.93\00:49:59.89
Yeah.
00:49:59.93\00:50:01.26
And you saw some
pictures, some video,
00:50:01.30\00:50:03.10
and that's just a microcosm
00:50:03.13\00:50:05.87
of what they
actually have been doing
00:50:05.90\00:50:07.80
and what they're
gonna be exposed to
00:50:07.84\00:50:09.17
in the future.
00:50:09.20\00:50:10.54
What I like
about Andrew and Kalie
00:50:10.61\00:50:11.97
is that they
want to equip people,
00:50:12.01\00:50:14.41
they want to make the students
00:50:14.44\00:50:15.94
that are coming
up in this program,
00:50:15.98\00:50:18.68
come into a very well
furnished environment.
00:50:18.71\00:50:22.38
Because I think
of the dollar value,
00:50:22.42\00:50:24.32
I think of it this way,
00:50:24.35\00:50:25.69
you know, the
Bible uses it this way,
00:50:25.72\00:50:27.06
this is my illustration.
00:50:27.09\00:50:28.42
If the shepherd is...
00:50:28.46\00:50:29.92
If they could
strike the shepherd,
00:50:29.96\00:50:31.99
the sheep will scatter.
00:50:32.03\00:50:33.83
And so they're in
that shepherding role
00:50:33.90\00:50:36.36
in the sense of emergency,
their dollar value is high,
00:50:36.40\00:50:39.63
they're so well trained.
00:50:39.67\00:50:41.17
You know, one of them get hurt,
00:50:41.20\00:50:43.91
not having the right supplies,
00:50:43.94\00:50:45.27
not having the
right response cash,
00:50:45.31\00:50:47.78
then all of a sudden,
00:50:47.81\00:50:49.14
it puts hundreds or
thousands of lives at risk.
00:50:49.18\00:50:51.45
You know, it's
amazing when I think
00:50:51.48\00:50:52.81
about what you guys have done
and what you're planning to do,
00:50:52.85\00:50:55.22
how important
and imperative it is,
00:50:55.25\00:50:57.39
to have the right supplies
to be able to accomplish that.
00:50:57.42\00:51:00.16
Not only for the
students that are coming up,
00:51:00.19\00:51:03.06
but for the training of
extra emergency individuals
00:51:03.09\00:51:06.29
outside in the Midwest,
00:51:06.33\00:51:07.66
I like that you
focused on the Midwest,
00:51:07.70\00:51:10.20
where right now we don't really
have that kind of facility.
00:51:10.27\00:51:12.53
And so if you'd
like to get in touch
00:51:12.57\00:51:14.40
with Andrew and Kalie
00:51:14.44\00:51:16.71
either as a financial sponsor,
00:51:16.74\00:51:18.77
a person that's capable
of providing that F-450,
00:51:18.81\00:51:24.81
that SUV for supply.
00:51:24.85\00:51:26.18
No, pickup truck.
00:51:26.21\00:51:27.55
I said what? It's
an SUV pickup truck.
00:51:27.62\00:51:29.15
That's right, pickup truck.
00:51:29.18\00:51:30.52
Thank you, honey.
00:51:30.59\00:51:31.92
And I should know better, right?
00:51:31.95\00:51:33.29
I should know
about trucks. Oh, yeah.
00:51:33.32\00:51:34.69
But the response cash,
00:51:34.72\00:51:37.66
building that
technical research center,
00:51:37.69\00:51:41.10
here's the information
that you're going to need
00:51:41.13\00:51:42.73
to be able to
make that a reality.
00:51:42.76\00:51:44.67
You can contact
them at this email
00:51:44.70\00:51:46.43
ucinfo@ucollege.edu.
00:51:46.47\00:51:51.01
That's U-C-I-N-F-O@ucollege.edu
00:51:51.04\00:51:55.44
or call (402) 486-2600.
00:51:55.48\00:52:01.18
Once again, (402) 486-2600.
00:52:01.22\00:52:07.26
And I know, honey,
00:52:07.29\00:52:08.72
if we ever take
the challenge up,
00:52:08.76\00:52:11.03
maybe one day
we'll just kind of,
00:52:11.06\00:52:12.93
maybe we'll go
just to see what you do.
00:52:12.96\00:52:14.66
You're more than welcome.
00:52:14.70\00:52:16.03
It wouldn't hurt,
00:52:16.06\00:52:17.40
because I could tighten
my muscles up here but...
00:52:17.47\00:52:19.93
It's a good rescue
course. It's amazing.
00:52:19.97\00:52:22.07
When you look back on
what you've done so far,
00:52:22.10\00:52:25.17
what can you say has
been the most valuable lesson
00:52:25.21\00:52:27.94
you've drawn out of
what you've done so far.
00:52:27.98\00:52:30.45
I'll start with you, Kalie.
00:52:30.48\00:52:31.81
Oh, no.
00:52:31.85\00:52:33.21
The most valuable? Yeah.
00:52:33.25\00:52:35.08
Most valuable lesson.
00:52:35.12\00:52:36.52
It didn't have to be
the most valuable lesson
00:52:36.55\00:52:38.62
that you've drawn from,
00:52:38.65\00:52:39.99
because you're still
learning, you're still growing.
00:52:40.06\00:52:42.29
I think from my
time as a student,
00:52:42.32\00:52:45.49
'cause I started as a student
00:52:45.53\00:52:46.90
before going
back as a professor.
00:52:46.93\00:52:48.26
From my time as a student,
00:52:48.30\00:52:49.63
I think just the
experiences in my life
00:52:49.66\00:52:54.07
that forced me to rely on God,
00:52:54.14\00:52:57.31
it gave me confidence in
my relationship with him.
00:52:57.34\00:53:00.48
But also there
were a lot of instances
00:53:00.51\00:53:02.61
where God had me get
myself out of my mess.
00:53:02.64\00:53:05.01
And so it grew
me in my character,
00:53:05.05\00:53:08.55
and my confidence and
my ability as a person
00:53:08.58\00:53:11.39
giving me the confidence
then to go on and do a masters,
00:53:11.42\00:53:14.19
and to work with
ADRA, and to go overseas
00:53:14.26\00:53:17.33
and eventually to come
back and work as professor.
00:53:17.36\00:53:21.16
Right.
00:53:21.20\00:53:22.53
Andrew?
00:53:22.56\00:53:23.90
What about you?
00:53:23.97\00:53:26.94
I think every person
has a different calling.
00:53:26.97\00:53:29.60
You know, originally,
00:53:29.64\00:53:31.01
I had a thought I was
gonna be a medical doctor
00:53:31.04\00:53:33.98
and then found something
else that had my passion.
00:53:34.01\00:53:37.48
You know, I think
saving people physically
00:53:37.55\00:53:40.02
is what I feel called to do.
00:53:40.05\00:53:41.88
You know, there's...
00:53:41.92\00:53:43.25
saving people
spiritually is what you guys do
00:53:43.28\00:53:44.75
on a daily basis.
00:53:44.79\00:53:46.19
And, and for us, I
think, I like to follow
00:53:46.22\00:53:48.72
the other side
of what Jesus did,
00:53:48.76\00:53:50.13
you know, where
He fed the hungry
00:53:50.16\00:53:51.49
and, you know,
took care of the sick
00:53:51.53\00:53:52.86
and clothed people.
00:53:52.89\00:53:54.23
And I think that's
what my calling is,
00:53:54.26\00:53:58.83
to show that love physically
for people, and this...
00:53:58.87\00:54:02.20
I think this program is
the best way to do that.
00:54:02.24\00:54:03.71
It's a great way to train
to actually meet people's needs
00:54:03.74\00:54:06.17
and try and share
God's love in there,
00:54:06.21\00:54:08.11
as you as you build a
relationship with them
00:54:08.14\00:54:10.35
and take care of
them, show them you care.
00:54:10.38\00:54:12.11
You know, life lessons
are so important to glean
00:54:12.15\00:54:14.48
from the work that you do.
00:54:14.52\00:54:15.85
Because as you go down
the road many years from now,
00:54:15.88\00:54:18.95
in the same field,
00:54:18.99\00:54:20.36
you're gonna be
able to write a memoir,
00:54:20.39\00:54:21.92
and talk about what we did
00:54:21.96\00:54:23.29
in different parts of the world.
00:54:23.32\00:54:24.83
And it's amazing to see that
00:54:24.86\00:54:27.03
these two lives are
dedicated to making a difference
00:54:27.10\00:54:29.70
in everyone else's life.
00:54:29.73\00:54:31.27
It's amazing.
00:54:31.30\00:54:32.63
And we're gonna
take a short news break
00:54:32.67\00:54:35.84
for some announcements.
00:54:35.87\00:54:37.21
And on the other
side of the news break
00:54:37.24\00:54:38.57
we'll be back for a
few closing thoughts.
00:54:38.61\00:54:41.08
Don't go away.
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