I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Removing pain
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Lord, let my words
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Heal a heart that hurts
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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- Hello and welcome
to another 3ABN Today
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program. We are
so glad that you have
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joined us. Why is that?
Well, for one thing, you're
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our friends and our
family, and we just want to say
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thank you for your
support and prayers
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for the ministry of
3ABN. It's making a difference
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around the world, and
that's an incredible thing
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to think about-technology
and how it spreads. A long
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time ago, or over
30 years ago when God
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gave Danny the impression
to build a station that
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would reach the
world for Jesus Christ and
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spread the gospel around
the world, it is mainly by
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satellite. Now, we
have our cell phones, which-
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good for me! I
don't have my cell phone
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with me today.
It's supposed to be off
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the set. Do you have yours?
- Mine's here. - Good for you.
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[laughter] Anyway, you can
watch 3ABN on your cell phones.
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It's 24 hours a day over
the radio, over the internet...
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It's really
incredible. Even while we sleep
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at night, the gospel
is being spread around
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the world, so we want
to again just say thank
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you for that, and thank
you for being our family,
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too. Because
without you, 3ABN wouldn't
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be here. And of
course, we're always, always
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so thankful for
you. Today, we're talking
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about SALT. And to be
honest with you, I like
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SALT, as in SALT from
the shaker. - He does. - I-
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you know, people say,
"in moderation," right?
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So, you're supposed
to have it in moderation.
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I do like salt,
but we're not talking
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about salt... - No.
- ...that's going on
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food. This is an incredible
ministry, and we're excited,
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'cause we have some
long-time friends with
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us, as well; plus, we've
just met some new friends.
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- Thank you for
saying long-time friends. I
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really- that really makes
me feel young still, so you
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did a very good job,
sweetheart. - You know,
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a lot of times, we
tend to say "old friends,"
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and then what does
that make us? I guess that
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makes us old, too,
so long-term sounds a
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little better. - I
love the Today program,
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because we get to
feature ministries.
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We get to share
with you at home what God
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is doing in and
around the world, and this
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ministry is no exception.
SALT, which stands for
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Soul Winning and Leadership
Training... - It's an acronym.
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- And we - it's an acronym;
that's right - and we want
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to introduce them to
you at this time. Right
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on this side is
Pastor Douglas Na'a, and
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this is one of the
long-term friends, we
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could say. We went to
school together 20 years
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ago! - Yeah, I have
a lot of fond memories.
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- Yeah. You know,
it's interesting, 'cause
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just before we went
on the program, we were
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talking about how we were
in the dorm together. - Yes!
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- Whoever would've
thought?...It's been
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years ago now, right?
We're not old! Okay, it
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must've been a long
time ago. - That's right.
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- We were in the dorm
together, and then here
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we are, sitting on the
set. It's incredible. - And you
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are the director of
SALT. - So, I direct the SALT
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program - the Soul Winning
and Leadership Training program
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which runs from August
to December on the campus
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of Southern
Adventist University. Wonderful
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program; great partnership
between It Is Written and
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the School of Religion of
Southern Adventist University.
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So, it's my privilege
to direct the program.
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- Amen. - Glad you're here.
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- Absolutely
excited to have you here.
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And sitting next to
you is another long-term
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friend and your wife,
especially: this is Dr.
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Alan Parker. You're
a professor of religion
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at Southern Adventist
University, and it's a
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joy to have you
here. - Well, that's right-
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I'm glad to be
here; and my wife would
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have loved to have been
here. She knows both of you
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for a while, now. [laughter]
- That's good, too; I like
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that! - And if you detect
an accent on this side, that's
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'cause we're mixing in
New Zealand and South African.
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So, that's part of
what you get when you come
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to Southern Adventist
University; there's a lot
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of different
accents. You know, and some
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people may remember
you, also, 'cause you were in
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charge of AFCOE, correct?
Or at Amazing Facts. - So,
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when I was at Amazing
Facts, I was the director
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of the College of Evangelism-
the end of the evangelism
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program in general-moved
to Southern, and I had a
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student who said, "Man,
we'd love to do something
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like that here," and
that was the beginning
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of doing the SALT program
at Southern. - And how many
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years ago was that? I
know we're going to get
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into this a little
deeper; but how many years ago
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was that? - 2011 was
when we began. It was
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just incredible, because
John Bradshaw was actually
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coming through. We
just had a tornado, and that
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tornado had come
through, and John Bradshaw was
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coming in to
interview some people who had
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survived the
tornado. And he said, "Hey,
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you want to stop by
for breakfast?" And over
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breakfast, we talked
about SALT, and he said, "Why
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don't we do a partnership?"
And that's how it began.
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- Oh, wow. - You know,
it's really neat to see
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what God does, you know?
It was just over breakfast,
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and then look where SALT
is now. I know we're going
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to get some more details,
and it's really exciting
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what God is doing. - It
is! What year did you come to
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Southern? - So, 2007. -
2007... And what classes
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do you teach there? - So I
teach Christian spirituality,
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I will teach church ministry
for theology students, I teach
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life and teachings of Jesus,
some evangelism classes...
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So, it's just a
variety. - Amen. - You're busy.
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- It does keep me busy.
- Absolutely. And I know
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your wife, Nicole. If
you watch 3ABN at all,
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you might have seen
her. She's on A Multitude of
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Counselors and does an
incredible job. She has
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a heart for people
and a heart for ministry,
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and you have several
kids at home, too. - Yes, four
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kids. We just
adopted a child from Ukraine;
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he's 16, and then we
have three biological
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kids. - Amen. - So, it's
very loud and very exciting
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at home. [laughter] -
And before we get to the rest
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of our guests, Pastor
Doug, tell us about your
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wife and family,
too; we missed that at the
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beginning. - Yeah, so
I'm married to my beautiful
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wife, Meliana Na'a, and
we'll be married 14 years
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now. - Yay. - Congratulations.
- Yeah. We married in Auckland,
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New Zealand. And
right after we got married,
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then we came over to
Andrews University into
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the seminary. And ever
since then, we pastored
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in different conferences,
and now got the call to...
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- ...be the director... -
...be the director for the
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SALT program. - Amen.
And have you been there
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since 2011 when they
began, or no? When did
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you start there? -
No, it's been going on two
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years now since I've
been there. - Amen. Okay. And
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then we have Jeremy Clark
sitting next to Dr. Parker.
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You graduated from SALT
just recently! - Yeah, in
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2018. What a blessed
experience it was to be
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able to attend. - Amen.
- Well, we're excited to
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get into your story and
your experience at SALT.
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So, tell us about your
family, too, since we're
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talking about
families. So, you're married.
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- I'm married - 22 years.
- Congratulations! - I have
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four. We've got a 7-year-old,
a 14-year-old, a 19-year-old,
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and a 22-year-old. So,
across the gamut there.
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- Yeah. [laughter] For
sure. And what do you call home?
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- Right now, we are living
in a little town near Mountain
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Grove, Missouri, and
we are potentially moving
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to Indianapolis. -
Wow. That's neat. - We can't
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wait to hear why
God brought you to SALT
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and what happened, your
experiences there, and then
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what God's doing in
your life now. But before we
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get to all of that,
we have one more guest to
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introduce. This is Elizabeth
Rivas. - Yes! - And you
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graduated from SALT just
recently, as well? - Yes!
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Same class as Jeremy,
so 2018. I was so lucky
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that God brought me around
to the SALT program, 'cause
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I was... No, there was
no- I had no idea I was
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going to do that,
but He worked it out for
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us, so... - Amen. And
where is home for you?
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- Chattanooga; in Chattanooga,
Tennessee right now. - So,
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you didn't have to go far
to go to school? - Not too
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far, no. [laughter]
- That's nice. Not much
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of a travel, for sure,
to get to class and stuff.
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That's great. Yeah, we're
looking forward to getting
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to the stories. There's
a scripture that we wanted
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that goes right along with...
- Yes! Thank you. - I'm gonna
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guess. Don't you- it
probably has something
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to do with salt. - It has
something to do with salt.
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We're going to look at
Matthew chapter 5 verse
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13 - part of Jesus' Sermon
on the Mount. This is just
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after all the Beatitudes.
Then, He says, "You are
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the salt of the earth.
But if the salt loses its
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flavor, how shall it
be seasoned? It is then
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good for nothing
but to be thrown out and
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trampled underfoot by men."
Why did you pick that scripture?
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Of course, it says, "You
are the salt of the earth,"
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but...any specific reason?
- You know, one of the great
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things about that scripture
is it tells you what to do and
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what not to do. So,
it tells you that God has
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to transform your life
so that you can be salt.
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But if you don't let that
transformation take place,
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you're going to be
good for nothing, you know?
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And I think so many of
us have had an experience
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with Jesus, but we've
lost that. And when we
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do evangelism and witnessing,
that experience comes back.
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That's how we get our
seasoning back. So, we
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don't want to be
good for nothing; we want
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to be good for something.
- Amen. So, take us back
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to the story behind
the birth of SALT. I know
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you said over
breakfast, you were with Pastor
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John Bradshaw, and
it was kind of born from
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that; but there must
have been a reason or
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a... Did you see a
need for more soul-winning
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evangelism, or...?
What was the purpose? - Yes;
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so as we were sitting
down together, we sort
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of shared a dream that
anyone could do evangelism
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training, and we said,
"How could that happen?"
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We looked at the beautiful
campus of Southern, and we
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said, "It'd be great
if it could happen right
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here. You've got a
school of religion that's very
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dedicated to the
Bible, that's dedicated to the
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mission of the Bible,
and then you have this
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evangelistic fervor and
passion of It Is Written.
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What would happen if
we combined those two and
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that you could get
people from the ages of 17 to
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77, coming together?" Get
credits for it if they want
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them, or just come and attend
the program. There's nothing
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like that out there,
so we said, "If we could
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create a program that
would bring together the
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deep theology with the
evangelistic experience,
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and then make it for
everyone? Then, there'd
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be no excuse for somebody
not to get trained," and that
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was our goal. - Mm, wow.
So you said from 17 to 77.
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[laughter] So in other
words, that's basically
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almost all ages
then! 'Cause some people,
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I think, you know,
at home, they could be
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tuning in right today and
saying, "Oh, that's... I'm
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way too old to be
able to do that. That's all
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for the young folk,"
but you're saying no. - No.
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- Definitely not. We've
actually had people take
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the SALT program, for
example, even last year,
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we had, basically,
a 50-year-old, we had
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some in their 40s and
their 30s...in the past
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two years. And so we've
had a diversity of ages.
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I think the
assumption is that because it's
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on a college campus,
it's only for students-
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but far from it. We've
had a diversity of ages
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take the SALT program.
That's the wonderful thing;
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it's open for all
ages. Everybody needs to be
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a salt of the
earth. - Yeah. Wow. Yeah,
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I mean that's- I think
to me, that's incredible,
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because a lot of
times, I think we can become
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discouraged and think
that, "Okay, this is it;
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God can't use me anymore..."
But there's always hope.
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So then what happens?
So you realize then that
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there is a need, that
there's nothing out there
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like this, then we can do
something about it... Then
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what happens? - So he
said, "Let's put It Is
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Written support behind
it." I was able to go back to
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the university with
that support, and they voted
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it incredibly
quickly. I mean, there is some
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bureaucracy at universities.
- Oh, yeah! - But that
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bureaucracy went through
very quickly; and by that
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fall, we were offering
our very first program.
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I had a couple of
prized students of mine who
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were willing to help
with the program at almost
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no pay just because they
believed in the vision. And
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once we started the
program, the word got
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out, and every year we've
had a great class. - Amen.
00:12:06.65\00:12:09.52
So what is different about
SALT than some of the other
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evangelistic
training programs that are
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around the world? I know
you mentioned one already;
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that's so you can get
college credit, and it's
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connected with the college
campus. But what else would
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be different? - I
think one of the things that
00:12:20.27\00:12:22.34
separate SALT is this is
the only four-month Bible
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training program we have
left, and also the fact that
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it's connected to an
institution. We get so
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many calls from conferences,
pastors, presidents, looking
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for effective Bible
workers, and so even
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they know- they call the
SALT program, looking for Bible
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work. So, I think
it's the only one left here
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in the North American
Division, I believe. - Wow.
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- So, that's a
wonderful uniqueness. - And with
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that, something that
makes the program unique is that
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you get mentoring.
So, every time you go into
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the field, there's somebody
to work with you. When you
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give a Bible study, there's
someone sitting in on that
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Bible study. So,
you're not out there alone.
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There are some online
options, which is good
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if that's all you can
do; but this gives you the
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opportunity to have somebody
actually walk alongside of you.
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- Amen. What would you
learn if you went to SALT?
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What would you learn? -
We learn a lot of things,
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but basically,
SALT program teaches you
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to know your faith,
share your faith, and
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defend your faith.
And when we talk about
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defending, we're not talking
about debating people into
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the faith; we're
talking about answering people's
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objections in a
Christlike and in a winsome way.
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And not only that, but
the wonderful thing about
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the SALT program - it
combines the theoretical
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and the practical. So,
it's not just the- when
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we talk about
knowing your faith, we're not
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talking about intellectual
knowledge; we're talking
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about experiential knowledge.
And so, when the students
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come and take the SALT
program, they actually get
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to experience Adventism.
It's one thing knowing
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about the three
angels' messages-but have you
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experienced the three
angel's messages? - Wow.
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- That's deep. - And so,
we really want the students
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to experience, and
I think that's what we
00:14:01.84\00:14:04.41
need today: we need
an experiential knowledge
00:14:04.54\00:14:06.44
of Jesus, not just
the theoretical knowledge.
00:14:06.51\00:14:08.14
- I agree. - And so,
that's one of the things that's
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highly emphasized
in this whole program.
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I think one of the strongpoints
of this whole program on top
00:14:13.28\00:14:17.15
of discipleship, the
mentorship, is the fact
00:14:17.25\00:14:19.72
that it's taught by
proven soul winners. You've got
00:14:19.82\00:14:24.66
John Bradshaw, you've
got Eric Flickinger, you've
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got? you've got the
It Is Written evangelists
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come in and teach the
SALT program. So, it has that
00:14:31.43\00:14:34.34
elemental credibility,
that these are people
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who know what they're
talking about. They know
00:14:36.84\00:14:38.94
soul winning like the
back of their hand, and
00:14:39.01\00:14:40.98
combined with the teachers
at the Southern Adventist
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University - School of
Religion! They're not only
00:14:44.48\00:14:46.92
academic, but they,
too, have proven themselves
00:14:46.98\00:14:48.72
to be effective soul
winners! And so, when
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you have students come to
the SALT program, you know
00:14:51.59\00:14:53.82
you're being taught by
the best. - Amen. - You
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know you've been taught
by those who have actually
00:14:56.39\00:14:58.76
proven themselves. So,
the elemental credibility's
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right there. These
are credible teachers that
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teach in the SALT program.
- So then do the students
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have the opportunity of
going out and conducting
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Bible studies in
their area? - Absolutely.
00:15:08.80\00:15:10.61
- Absolutely. In fact,
a great experience took
00:15:10.67\00:15:14.28
place. I remember having
students go out, and they
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would- some of them
say, "Hey, can you come with
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me?" - Sure, a
little nervous about this,
00:15:19.21\00:15:20.75
like, "Oh, I don't
know." - Yeah! "What do I do?"
00:15:20.85\00:15:22.72
So one student, he says,
"Look. This lady, she loves
00:15:22.82\00:15:26.35
me visiting with
her, but I don't know how
00:15:26.45\00:15:28.52
spiritually interested
she is." And so I said,
00:15:28.59\00:15:31.39
"Alright. Let me go along."
And so he starts the Bible
00:15:31.49\00:15:34.06
study, doing a great
job, and then she stops him
00:15:34.13\00:15:37.27
and says, "You know,
I just don't want to be
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going to church and
doing some of those things."
00:15:40.00\00:15:42.70
- Okay. [laughter] -
And so, he was like, deer in
00:15:42.84\00:15:45.37
the headlights; but I'm there
so I just felt impressed to say,
00:15:45.44\00:15:48.91
"Well, can you tell me
why?" And she says, "Because
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I feel that they
reject me, I don't have the
00:15:51.65\00:15:53.88
nice clothes, they look
at me and I just feel the
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judgmentalism." And so
I said, "Well, how long
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has it been since
you've been in church?" And it
00:15:59.95\00:16:01.96
was like over a
decade. - Mm, wow. A long time.
00:16:02.02\00:16:04.19
- And so, I was
then inspired to ask her
00:16:04.26\00:16:07.16
another question. I
said, "Do you feel God looks at
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you the same way?" And
some tears just filled her
00:16:09.56\00:16:13.00
eyes, and she said... -
Great question. - "Yeah.
00:16:13.10\00:16:15.07
That's exactly how I
feel." So I turned back to the
00:16:15.14\00:16:17.54
student and I say, "You
know, we just learnt about
00:16:17.64\00:16:20.11
the gospel the other day
in class. Would you like to
00:16:20.24\00:16:22.08
share that?" So now,
they're learning something
00:16:22.18\00:16:24.48
in the classroom, but
they're learning to do
00:16:24.58\00:16:26.75
it in the field. So he
stumbles his way through
00:16:26.85\00:16:29.48
the gospel presentation,
getting more confidence
00:16:29.58\00:16:31.62
as he goes along, and
then at the end, he says,
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"Would it be your
desire to accept Jesus Christ?"
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And she says, "Yes, I
would like to do that."
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And she's... Tears
are coming down her face,
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the student is shocked
because he's never seen
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this before, and
we're able to have a prayer
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there. And it didn't end
right there, because that
00:16:48.64\00:16:51.47
Sabbath, she came to church
for the first time-she was
00:16:51.57\00:16:54.48
willing to take the risk-
because that wasn't really
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about church. It
was about God. - Right.
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- And then, we had meetings
at the end of that month.
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By the end of those meetings,
she was sealing her decision
00:17:02.18\00:17:06.15
for Jesus through
baptism. So, that's why we do
00:17:06.25\00:17:08.92
something like SALT. - See,
this is what's really powerful
00:17:09.02\00:17:11.46
to me is that this
is real-life experience.
00:17:11.53\00:17:14.23
These are not students to
students in the classroom,
00:17:14.33\00:17:16.36
doing a mock Bible
study; I mean, these are real
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souls that are out
there. They're seeing a real
00:17:19.87\00:17:22.64
conversion like
you're just sharing-I mean,
00:17:22.74\00:17:24.51
that's powerful-taking
place. And to me, that's
00:17:24.57\00:17:28.14
where it can get a little
addictive, in a good sense
00:17:28.21\00:17:30.61
of the word, right? [Yep.]
- That's why we call it the
00:17:30.68\00:17:32.58
evangelism bug. We try
to infect them with it.
00:17:32.65\00:17:34.75
- Amen! And then you
have it the rest of your life.
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[laughter] That's great.
So, I know there's different
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platforms. Tell us
and unpack that for us.
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- Correct. So, the
SALT has three separate
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platforms. The
first platform is what we
00:17:44.46\00:17:47.23
want everybody to experience.
It gives you the full, complete
00:17:47.33\00:17:51.10
experience; and
that is our 16-week fall
00:17:51.20\00:17:53.54
program from August
to December. We encourage
00:17:53.64\00:17:56.71
people to take
that program. - Is that
00:17:56.81\00:17:58.44
where they actually
come, then? On campus? - They
00:17:58.51\00:18:00.18
come on campus. - They
stay... Would it be in the
00:18:00.24\00:18:01.68
dorms, or do they have
to find housing? - There
00:18:01.74\00:18:03.88
are options available, right?
- Okay. - So, younger students
00:18:03.95\00:18:07.92
tend to go in the
dorms, and older students will
00:18:07.98\00:18:10.12
find housing in
the community. - Okay.
00:18:10.19\00:18:12.32
Good. So that's the
first platform. - That's the
00:18:12.39\00:18:14.46
first platform, man. That
gives you the full, complete
00:18:14.52\00:18:15.86
experience. We realize
not everybody can take 16
00:18:15.89\00:18:19.36
weeks off from their
work; and we have our
00:18:19.46\00:18:22.30
second platform,
and that's our one-week
00:18:22.36\00:18:24.13
summer SALT program.
Sometimes- that's usually
00:18:24.20\00:18:27.14
on the campus of Southern
Adventist University, but
00:18:27.20\00:18:29.44
this is where local churches
get to partner with the SALT
00:18:29.50\00:18:33.04
program, where they invite
the SALT program to do their
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church and we do a one-week
training in their church, or a
00:18:35.54\00:18:39.31
long weekend training in
their church that prepares
00:18:39.38\00:18:41.55
them for an upcoming
evangelistic meeting.
00:18:41.62\00:18:43.22
- You go to the churches.
- So, if they cannot make it
00:18:43.32\00:18:44.65
to the SALT program,
SALT program can make it
00:18:44.75\00:18:46.96
to them. - I love it.
- That's how it works.
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A lot of churches are in
need of training, in need
00:18:51.09\00:18:53.70
of revival, in need of
equipping and preparing
00:18:53.76\00:18:56.30
people to know their
faith, share their faith,
00:18:56.36\00:18:57.73
and defend their
faith. Then, we also have our
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third platform, and that
is our SALT 365. That gives...
00:19:00.50\00:19:05.94
365 just simply means
it's available 365 days out of
00:19:06.71\00:19:10.58
the year, and these are
resources that's available
00:19:10.68\00:19:12.91
for anybody any
way, any age, no matter
00:19:13.01\00:19:16.02
where you are in
this world. You can
00:19:16.08\00:19:17.75
actually take some
of those resources and
00:19:17.82\00:19:19.22
train your local
church with the resources that
00:19:20.06\00:19:23.06
are available. - And it's
online? - And it's online.
00:19:23.16\00:19:24.99
- How much does it cost? -
It's free of charge. That's
00:19:25.06\00:19:27.30
the wonderful thing
about SALT 365. And so we have
00:19:27.40\00:19:30.80
those three
platforms that's available for
00:19:30.90\00:19:32.57
anybody to take. - Amen!
Isn't that exciting? 'Cause
00:19:32.70\00:19:35.50
God wants all of us to
be involved in evangelism,
00:19:35.60\00:19:38.91
you know? The
Great Commission, Matthew
00:19:39.04\00:19:40.98
28... He says, "Go ye
and make disciples, and
00:19:41.04\00:19:44.18
preach the gospel to
the world." So, what an
00:19:44.31\00:19:46.61
incredible ministry,
training soul winners
00:19:46.68\00:19:49.88
to spread the gospel to
the world. So, if you want
00:19:50.49\00:19:53.96
to get involved, if you're,
say, sitting at home right
00:19:54.06\00:19:57.19
now and you're saying,
"I want to come to SALT
00:19:57.29\00:19:59.13
and I want to be equipped
and trained," or, "I think
00:19:59.23\00:20:01.83
SALT should come to my
church and train my church,"
00:20:01.93\00:20:05.40
or you want any of
those resources-you all have a
00:20:05.50\00:20:07.87
website. What's that
website? - Our website
00:20:07.97\00:20:09.44
is simple-it's SALT.training.
You don't have to put "www"
00:20:09.54\00:20:12.94
in the front, you
don't have to put a ".com,"
00:20:13.04\00:20:14.64
".org," or ".net";
it's just SALT.training,
00:20:14.74\00:20:17.68
as it is. Come onto
our website, and you will
00:20:17.78\00:20:21.28
see the three platforms
there. We have a 16-week
00:20:21.38\00:20:24.32
program, a one-week summer
SALT program, and also our
00:20:24.39\00:20:28.29
SALT 365. You can
just click on which one you
00:20:28.39\00:20:31.43
prefer to take. -
And what if someone wants
00:20:31.49\00:20:32.89
to call instead of
visit the website? - They can
00:20:32.99\00:20:35.26
call us; they can
call directly. SALT office:
00:20:35.36\00:20:37.50
That's our number, and
that'll come directly to
00:20:40.54\00:20:43.37
either myself or my outreach
coordinator. - Amen! Wonderful.
00:20:43.44\00:20:46.61
Well, I know we want
to hear from Jeremy and
00:20:46.74\00:20:49.08
Elizabeth, and we want
to get some of your story.
00:20:49.18\00:20:50.91
So, Elizabeth! Maybe
we should do ladies first.
00:20:50.98\00:20:52.81
Let's hear why did you
come to SALT in the first
00:20:52.91\00:20:56.48
place? Tell us why,
how you found out about it,
00:20:56.58\00:20:59.09
and why you wanted to go.
- Well, I lived in the area
00:20:59.15\00:21:02.02
in Chattanooga, and my
dad is actually an employee
00:21:02.12\00:21:05.13
at Southern, so I heard
about this program while
00:21:05.19\00:21:07.83
I was still in high
school. I was interested in it,
00:21:07.93\00:21:11.30
but I wasn't sure that
I wanted to commit a full
00:21:11.40\00:21:14.14
semester of college.
So I kind of put it out
00:21:14.20\00:21:18.47
of my mind for a while.
It's kind of a long story,
00:21:18.57\00:21:22.31
but God kind of brought
it back to me several times,
00:21:22.44\00:21:25.01
and I finally made
the commitment to, "Okay,
00:21:25.11\00:21:27.58
God, I'm going to
take this." And what drew
00:21:27.68\00:21:30.09
me to the program in
and of itself most was
00:21:30.19\00:21:33.25
the fact that they were
going to enable me to be
00:21:33.36\00:21:36.99
able to share what
I believed, what I had
00:21:37.09\00:21:38.69
grown up knowing, but
didn't know quite how to
00:21:38.76\00:21:41.63
share it. I had seen
a lot around me: people
00:21:41.70\00:21:45.97
that call
themselves Christians, but they
00:21:46.10\00:21:48.77
weren't really
active. I wasn't either, and I
00:21:48.87\00:21:51.97
wanted an avenue that I
could become more active.
00:21:52.04\00:21:55.18
So, that's what drew
me to it. - Amen...amen.
00:21:55.28\00:21:59.11
- So, describe,
then, your experience then
00:21:59.21\00:22:00.88
going then and
taking this. You did the 16
00:22:00.98\00:22:02.92
weeks then-is that right?-
in the fall. - Yes, I did the
00:22:03.02\00:22:04.82
16-week program. -
Were you scared? I mean, did
00:22:04.92\00:22:06.96
you like knocking
on doors or talking to
00:22:07.02\00:22:08.36
people or having
Bible studies? Did that even
00:22:08.42\00:22:09.92
make you a little
bit nervous? - That's...
00:22:09.99\00:22:11.33
Yeah! A little; we
could say that. That's not my
00:22:11.36\00:22:14.40
natural comfort
zone to be out there and
00:22:14.50\00:22:17.00
talking to strangers,
but I did feel supported.
00:22:17.10\00:22:22.64
We went out in
pairs, and my partner was
00:22:22.74\00:22:26.21
almost like a grandmother
to me. I was so blessed to
00:22:26.27\00:22:29.31
have her. She was very
bold in her faith, and she
00:22:29.38\00:22:33.01
was very zealous for
the work. And so, that kind
00:22:33.05\00:22:38.12
of gave me courage
to, you know, be able to
00:22:38.19\00:22:40.62
speak to people, as
well. And when we went knocking
00:22:40.69\00:22:44.16
on doors, it was a hard
process, but it was very,
00:22:44.23\00:22:47.30
very much worth it.
It grew me so much. I
00:22:47.36\00:22:50.97
didn't think I could do
it, but we had so much support
00:22:51.07\00:22:53.30
from mentors and from the
staff. It was a really good
00:22:53.37\00:22:57.11
experience, for sure.
- So when you go knocking
00:22:57.21\00:22:59.71
on doors, someone at
home might say, "Well,
00:22:59.81\00:23:01.41
what does that mean?
What are you saying to
00:23:01.48\00:23:02.81
them when you knock
on someone's door? What
00:23:02.94\00:23:04.48
happens? - Right. - So
what are you doing when
00:23:04.55\00:23:05.88
you go down the street
and you knock on someone's
00:23:06.08\00:23:07.42
door? - So, we go and
we approach the house,
00:23:07.52\00:23:10.79
and we try to look
around- maybe see what kind of
00:23:10.89\00:23:14.22
people live in it. So
like, young people or,
00:23:14.32\00:23:17.13
you know, what could
we say that would appeal
00:23:17.19\00:23:21.10
to them about the
Bible, right? And so, we go up
00:23:21.20\00:23:23.43
to them and we offer
health services through
00:23:23.50\00:23:26.94
our church or community,
as well. And then we ask
00:23:27.04\00:23:30.47
if they're
interested in learning about the
00:23:30.54\00:23:32.27
Bible at all. And so,
if they are, then we'll
00:23:32.37\00:23:36.38
sign them up to
come back and visit them
00:23:36.44\00:23:38.65
some more-we try
to make connections,
00:23:38.71\00:23:40.25
establish a relationship
with them-and we come
00:23:40.35\00:23:43.55
back with our mentor,
as well, and we sit down
00:23:43.62\00:23:47.46
and we have a Bible
study on Daniel 2 or
00:23:47.52\00:23:50.69
whatever the topic might
be. It's just a really good
00:23:50.79\00:23:54.73
experience to see
the people understanding
00:23:54.80\00:23:56.93
concepts about the Bible,
so it's great. - How do you
00:23:57.00\00:24:00.30
think the
experience changed you?-in your
00:24:00.40\00:24:02.77
own walk with God,
in your own journey-how
00:24:02.90\00:24:06.64
do you think it grew
you or it changed you? - It
00:24:06.74\00:24:09.21
definitely made me more
confident in what God can
00:24:09.28\00:24:12.41
do through me. I was not
comfortable with giving a
00:24:12.51\00:24:17.85
Bible study. That's not
something that I thought
00:24:17.92\00:24:20.09
I could do, but
they really showed us the
00:24:20.19\00:24:24.19
steps to doing it,
what things to look for, and
00:24:24.26\00:24:27.66
how to really make
it personable. So, one
00:24:27.76\00:24:31.97
time, I went to one of
the doors, and I thought
00:24:32.03\00:24:34.60
it was going to be just
like all the others. They're
00:24:34.67\00:24:36.40
really...you know-
sometimes they're nice,
00:24:36.50\00:24:38.51
but they're not
really interested, and I just
00:24:38.61\00:24:41.04
left them with the
Bible study. I was, you know-
00:24:41.14\00:24:43.01
maybe they'll read
it on their own. But we
00:24:43.14\00:24:45.75
kept coming back, 'cause
she was like, "Yeah, please
00:24:45.85\00:24:47.72
bring more of
them." It was a young lady,
00:24:47.82\00:24:49.92
and she kept studying more.
And finally, one of the times,
00:24:49.98\00:24:55.66
she's like, "Yeah, can you
please sit down and explain
00:24:55.76\00:24:57.59
this to me?" So we were
finally able to sit down
00:24:57.66\00:25:00.80
with this lady, and I
was like, "Wow, this is
00:25:00.90\00:25:02.53
actually going somewhere."
And we even got down to
00:25:02.63\00:25:05.70
the topic about the Sabbath
and she was like, "Wow, so
00:25:05.83\00:25:08.07
it's really- the
Sabbath is about relationships!
00:25:08.17\00:25:10.74
It's not just the law."
- That's good. - Praise the
00:25:10.84\00:25:13.04
Lord. - We were able to
communicate that with her,
00:25:13.14\00:25:15.21
and she was like,
"Yes! I really want to follow
00:25:15.28\00:25:17.15
this; I really want
to get to know God more,"
00:25:17.21\00:25:19.88
and she committed to
start keeping the Sabbath every
00:25:19.98\00:25:22.88
week. And that, for
me, was amazing, 'cause I'd
00:25:22.98\00:25:26.52
never done anything like
that before, and it's really
00:25:26.62\00:25:29.02
encouraging going forward
now, as well. - Amen. - That's
00:25:29.12\00:25:32.53
a powerful experience:
someone to ask- 'cause
00:25:32.63\00:25:34.96
I mean, her face just
radiates, so I'm thinking,
00:25:35.03\00:25:38.40
yeah, that she's caught
the evangelism bug. [laughter]
00:25:39.20\00:25:42.80
- She's infected. - So
you would recommend SALT to
00:25:43.61\00:25:49.34
someone else? - I would!
I would. I have recommended
00:25:49.44\00:25:52.18
it to several of my friends
I think. One of my friends
00:25:52.28\00:25:55.12
are coming from California,
potentially, next semester
00:25:55.25\00:25:57.19
to take it, so I definitely
recommend it 100%, for
00:25:57.29\00:26:00.89
sure. - And what are you
going to do, moving forward?
00:26:00.99\00:26:02.82
Are you wanting to do
Bible work, or are you
00:26:02.92\00:26:04.59
wanting to u- how are
you going to use this,
00:26:04.69\00:26:06.80
what you've learned,
going forward? - Right.
00:26:06.90\00:26:08.76
Well, long-term, I'm
just happy that I have
00:26:08.86\00:26:11.23
tools in my pocket as
I'm potentially going to
00:26:11.37\00:26:14.17
be in the medical
field; I'll have tools to speak
00:26:14.27\00:26:16.44
to people. But
more immediately, I am-
00:26:16.50\00:26:19.51
if God continues to lead
that way-I'll be going to
00:26:19.61\00:26:22.24
South America next
year and just spending some
00:26:22.34\00:26:26.05
time down there doing
some Bible work, as well.
00:26:26.15\00:26:28.08
- Amen. - You know,
this is powerful. Before we
00:26:28.18\00:26:29.75
get to Jeremy-'cause you
just touched on something
00:26:29.82\00:26:31.65
that I think is
really powerful, and that is
00:26:31.72\00:26:33.29
you're thinking of
going into the medical field.
00:26:33.39\00:26:34.92
So, SALT is not just
for someone that's really
00:26:35.02\00:26:37.43
going to do Bible
work for the rest of their
00:26:37.53\00:26:39.06
life and that is
their occupation, if we want
00:26:39.16\00:26:41.10
to say; you're saying
this is powerful tools
00:26:41.16\00:26:43.47
in your pocket, so to
speak. - For sure; yes.
00:26:43.57\00:26:45.63
- Just unpackage that
just a little bit about
00:26:45.67\00:26:47.44
what you mean by that,
'cause there's a lot of
00:26:47.50\00:26:49.04
people-young people,
especially-that may be
00:26:49.14\00:26:50.77
saying, "Ah, that's
not the profession or work
00:26:50.87\00:26:53.21
I want to do, so
I'm not going to go to
00:26:53.31\00:26:55.11
SALT." But SALT's actually
for people that are planning
00:26:55.21\00:26:57.71
just taking, what,
a semester out? Get
00:26:57.85\00:26:59.75
some great too-. -
Yeah... yeah. And that's another
00:26:59.85\00:27:03.05
thing that I'm
really so thankful that I
00:27:03.15\00:27:05.35
could receive college
credit for, so I wasn't
00:27:05.42\00:27:07.16
necessarily taking time
off of school. You know,
00:27:07.26\00:27:11.09
I was filling up my
religion requirements,
00:27:11.19\00:27:13.26
my elective requirements,
and at the same time, I
00:27:13.40\00:27:17.23
was being able to have
this time to learn about
00:27:17.33\00:27:19.73
how to share my faith
within my major-within
00:27:19.83\00:27:22.50
what I was already wanting
to do, so it's a great match.
00:27:22.64\00:27:26.37
It's not a waste of time
at all. - Amen. - I like how
00:27:26.47\00:27:30.25
you set that up. Go
ahead, Dr. Parker. - Yeah. It's
00:27:30.35\00:27:32.08
something that we might
call evangeliving rather
00:27:32.15\00:27:35.12
than evangelism, because
it's something that you do
00:27:35.18\00:27:38.32
as part of your profession,
no matter what you do.
00:27:38.39\00:27:41.19
- Wow. - That's powerful.
- That's good. I like that.
00:27:41.32\00:27:44.19
- Let's go to
Jeremy and hear your story.
00:27:44.29\00:27:46.39
Now, you- you're married,
you got four kids... This is
00:27:46.49\00:27:49.10
a different story
than someone who's just in
00:27:49.20\00:27:50.87
college, so tell us
what led you-what drew you
00:27:50.97\00:27:54.44
to SALT? - Well, we
had already been doing some
00:27:54.54\00:27:57.97
evangelism in our
local church, and it just-
00:27:58.07\00:28:02.34
it wasn't as successful
as we would've hoped it
00:28:02.48\00:28:05.01
would be, and so we
were at an Iowa camp meeting,
00:28:05.08\00:28:09.05
and Pastor Na'a
came and he was the guest
00:28:09.15\00:28:11.42
speaker. He was having some
classes on evangelism, so my
00:28:11.49\00:28:14.92
wife and I
attended. While we were going
00:28:14.99\00:28:18.39
through the classes,
Pastor Na'a said something that
00:28:18.49\00:28:22.10
resonated with us. He
said, "In warfare, the
00:28:22.20\00:28:26.43
battle is always won
on the ground." And so,
00:28:26.53\00:28:29.70
my wife and I kind
of looked at each other,
00:28:29.84\00:28:31.64
and we were talking without
talking, and we knew that we
00:28:31.74\00:28:35.31
had been going
about evangelism the wrong
00:28:35.38\00:28:37.55
way. - Wow. - So, the Lord
just put a conviction on my
00:28:37.65\00:28:40.88
heart to go and to learn
how to do this. So a long
00:28:40.98\00:28:45.59
story short, God just
made the way possible.
00:28:45.65\00:28:48.29
We were able to
leave everything behind. My
00:28:48.39\00:28:52.46
wife held the fort
for me, and we went down
00:28:52.56\00:28:54.36
to SALT and really learned
a lot more than we realized
00:28:54.46\00:28:58.90
we were signing up for
in the beginning. - And
00:28:59.03\00:29:02.20
what would that be? You
said you learned a lot more-
00:29:02.30\00:29:04.07
- Well, so, I went
for evangelism. That's
00:29:04.21\00:29:05.84
why I went. Knocking
on doors was the last
00:29:05.94\00:29:09.31
thing that I was
thinking of. [laughter] I really
00:29:09.44\00:29:14.42
didn't realize at
that moment that it was
00:29:14.48\00:29:16.62
going to be such an
intensive part of the
00:29:16.72\00:29:18.69
curriculum. You meet
a lot of folks, and you
00:29:18.79\00:29:23.93
get over that nervousness
of, "I can't do this." You can!
00:29:24.03\00:29:27.90
It's so easy; SALT makes
it easy. They train you how
00:29:28.00\00:29:31.60
to do this, and so
you're able to go out and make
00:29:31.67\00:29:34.30
relationships with folks.
You know, I had a situation
00:29:34.40\00:29:37.71
where we met a
young lady who accepted us
00:29:37.81\00:29:43.45
into her home, but she
was battling with drugs.
00:29:43.55\00:29:46.85
She had lost her children,
and she was losing the fight.
00:29:46.95\00:29:52.65
So, she was desperately
searching for the Lord,
00:29:52.75\00:29:57.19
but she didn't know
how to reach Him. So she
00:29:57.33\00:29:59.96
invited us into her
home, and we were able to meet
00:30:00.06\00:30:02.86
with her. And
after several lessons of
00:30:02.96\00:30:05.50
sitting down
together, there was this moment
00:30:05.60\00:30:08.57
where just the look
in her eyes changed, and
00:30:08.67\00:30:12.34
she realized..."Jesus
loves me." - Yeah.
00:30:12.47\00:30:16.61
- "As far as I've fallen
and I've lost everything,
00:30:16.68\00:30:20.68
and..." And she was just
able to realize that even
00:30:20.78\00:30:24.12
in that state, God
loved her. I was hooked. That
00:30:24.22\00:30:27.86
was it, and so I realized
right then and there that
00:30:27.96\00:30:32.89
the Lord was kind of calling
me more to just evangelism
00:30:32.96\00:30:37.53
itself, not that
there's anything wrong with it.
00:30:37.63\00:30:39.77
You gotta have a harvest
event, but there's so much
00:30:39.83\00:30:43.07
that goes into that
that we don't see. - Can I
00:30:43.17\00:30:46.01
stop you for one second?
You said, "I was hooked."
00:30:46.07\00:30:47.94
Was that the first time
you had ever experienced
00:30:48.01\00:30:51.28
the Holy Spirit
working on someone else's heart
00:30:51.35\00:30:54.88
like that? - Yes-the
first time I had seen it
00:30:54.95\00:30:56.28
in anyone's life outside
of my family's. You know,
00:30:56.32\00:30:59.85
my family and I, we
have plenty of testimonies to
00:30:59.95\00:31:02.46
share on how God has
delivered us-transformed
00:31:02.52\00:31:05.33
us-but that was the
first time I had ever seen the
00:31:05.39\00:31:08.56
Holy Spirit at work through
me to touch someone else.
00:31:08.66\00:31:12.93
- What did that feel like?
- It's... Words can't explain.
00:31:13.00\00:31:18.21
- Yeah, I think that's
powerful, and you realize
00:31:21.34\00:31:23.35
that God can use us
as weak human beings to
00:31:23.45\00:31:26.31
touch someone's life.
And the thing is, it's
00:31:26.45\00:31:29.15
not just temporal;
we're talking eternity here.
00:31:29.25\00:31:31.55
I mean, that's...
Yeah. That's powerful. So, I
00:31:31.69\00:31:35.56
can see your face,
too- yours also radiates...
00:31:35.66\00:31:37.43
Yeah, emotion is
deep there. That...yeah.
00:31:37.53\00:31:42.00
- It's an
emotional experience! - Yeah.
00:31:42.06\00:31:44.33
- But you would recommend
SALT to someone else? - Well,
00:31:44.40\00:31:46.63
it's funny you say
that. I'm actually sending my
00:31:46.74\00:31:48.70
daughter next semester.
[laughter] - I think that
00:31:48.80\00:31:51.61
hits close to
home! - So, yeah; I would
00:31:51.67\00:31:54.44
recommend it to
anyone. And we witness so many
00:31:54.54\00:31:57.78
young men and women,
just living the experience
00:31:57.88\00:32:03.69
and realizing why
they believe the way they
00:32:03.79\00:32:07.99
believe and being able
to put their fingerprint
00:32:08.09\00:32:11.09
on that. There was a
lot of testimonies just
00:32:11.19\00:32:14.03
in the classroom,
which was wonderful to be a
00:32:14.16\00:32:17.10
part of. - 'Cause
that encourages everybody
00:32:17.20\00:32:19.13
when things are being shared
within the classroom, too!
00:32:19.20\00:32:21.74
- Oh, yeah. It definitely
inspires people. - Yeah.
00:32:21.87\00:32:23.51
- So what are you
doing in moving forward now?
00:32:24.64\00:32:26.54
- Well, we went
home. SALT teaches you how
00:32:26.64\00:32:30.61
to kind of bring evangelism
to the church, and it gives
00:32:30.71\00:32:36.25
you the tools to do
that. So, we went home and
00:32:36.35\00:32:38.15
presented to the church
our plan for evangelism.
00:32:38.22\00:32:40.86
It Is Written- one of
the great things about the
00:32:40.96\00:32:43.39
partnership is they
offer something called a Mega
00:32:43.46\00:32:45.53
Mailer. And so, our
church piggybacked with It Is
00:32:45.63\00:32:50.83
Written and partnered
with them, and we sent
00:32:50.93\00:32:52.63
a Mega Mailer. Now, we
live in a very small community,
00:32:52.73\00:32:55.07
so it was roughly
1,800 mailers went out, and
00:32:55.17\00:32:58.27
we had 19 folks. - Oh.
That's a huge percentage.
00:32:58.37\00:33:01.78
- ...that they would
like us to come and give them
00:33:01.88\00:33:04.41
Bible studies. And so,
my church is doing that
00:33:04.51\00:33:06.92
right now. And in
the process of that, we
00:33:07.02\00:33:10.65
actually got a call from
the Indianapolis Conference. It
00:33:10.79\00:33:15.32
Is Written is doing
a 2020 campaign there,
00:33:15.46\00:33:17.66
and we have an opportunity
to come up there and do Bible
00:33:17.76\00:33:20.50
work. - Amen! - The Lord
has just continued to bless
00:33:20.60\00:33:23.67
us. - Amen... - It's
encouraging, isn't it?
00:33:23.77\00:33:26.63
- Yes. - I mean, you
think about this: over breakfast
00:33:26.74\00:33:28.97
a number of years ago, the idea
of SALT started to formulate.
00:33:29.07\00:33:33.14
- And all the people's lives who
are being changed as a result!
00:33:33.88\00:33:35.94
- What does that do to you?- I
mean, to hear these testimonies.
00:33:36.04\00:33:38.81
- It makes me emotional,
too, because I think it's
00:33:38.95\00:33:42.38
one thing to catch fish...
It's another thing to have
00:33:42.45\00:33:44.55
a school to train fishermen.
And so, to see each one of
00:33:44.69\00:33:48.39
their lives as they unfold...
I mean, I don't know what
00:33:48.49\00:33:51.43
eternity's going to be like,
but this is amazing. - Amen.
00:33:51.53\00:33:54.63
- Well, we have
some more guests we want
00:33:54.73\00:33:56.06
to bring on right now.
We're going to trade out
00:33:56.10\00:33:58.23
Jeremy and
Elizabeth during the song, but
00:33:58.30\00:34:02.77
right now we're going
to go to a song. This is a
00:34:02.84\00:34:04.67
perfect song to go with
what we're talking about-
00:34:04.77\00:34:06.98
"I Will Serve
Thee." This is by our good
00:34:07.11\00:34:10.15
friends, Reggie
and Ladye Love Smith.
00:34:10.25\00:34:12.85
I will serve Thee
because I love Thee
00:34:27.40\00:34:36.71
You have given life to me
00:34:39.14\00:34:47.85
I was nothing
before you found me
00:34:50.05\00:34:59.49
You have given life to me
00:35:02.30\00:35:11.41
Heartaches broken pieces
00:35:14.94\00:35:23.55
Ruined lives are why
00:35:25.65\00:35:30.69
You died on Calvary
00:35:30.79\00:35:37.83
Your touch is what I longed for
00:35:38.27\00:35:47.68
You have given life to me
00:35:49.51\00:35:59.25
I will serve Thee
because I love Thee
00:36:01.19\00:36:11.10
You have given life to me
00:36:13.50\00:36:22.68
I was nothing
before you found me
00:36:26.75\00:36:36.06
You have given life to me
00:36:38.56\00:36:48.17
Heartaches broken pieces
00:36:54.58\00:37:04.19
Ruined lives are why
00:37:06.49\00:37:11.53
You died on Calvary
00:37:11.89\00:37:19.33
Your touch was what I longed for
00:37:19.93\00:37:29.54
You have given life to me
00:37:31.48\00:37:41.02
You have given life
00:37:44.89\00:37:52.27
To me
00:37:55.14\00:38:05.08
- Wow, amen. Thank
you, Reggie and Ladye Love.
00:38:18.36\00:38:20.20
That is a powerful
song- "I Will Serve Thee." How
00:38:20.33\00:38:23.57
fitting, just as you mentioned
before we went to the song.
00:38:23.67\00:38:25.57
God wants all of us to
be vessels that He can use.
00:38:25.67\00:38:28.60
And no matter what place
you are in life, however old
00:38:28.70\00:38:32.61
or however young you
are, wherever you live in this
00:38:32.71\00:38:35.74
world, we can all
spread God's gospel around the
00:38:35.84\00:38:38.31
world. Well, you mentioned
we're switching out with
00:38:38.41\00:38:40.98
some of our guests that
we have here; but in case
00:38:41.08\00:38:42.85
you're just joining us,
we're talking about SALT-
00:38:42.95\00:38:44.59
and that's not salt
you put on your food, but
00:38:44.69\00:38:47.39
it's about SALT...
I'll let you explain what
00:38:47.49\00:38:49.69
it is, but we have
Pastor Na'a with us.
00:38:49.79\00:38:51.46
You're the director of
SALT. - Yes. - And then
00:38:51.56\00:38:54.23
we have Dr.
Parker. You're professor at
00:38:54.36\00:38:56.13
Southern Adventist University
of Religion; you're professor
00:38:56.26\00:38:59.57
there. So tell us,
again, what SALT is in case
00:38:59.70\00:39:01.74
someone is just
joining us-what SALT stands
00:39:01.84\00:39:03.44
for. - SALT stands for
Soul Winning and Leadership
00:39:03.54\00:39:06.57
Training. It is the
It Is Written school of
00:39:06.68\00:39:09.24
evangelism in partnership
with the school of religion
00:39:09.34\00:39:12.38
of Southern Adventist
University. It's a wonderful
00:39:12.48\00:39:15.38
program that
prepares people, teaches and
00:39:15.48\00:39:18.05
equips people to be
effective soul winners.
00:39:18.19\00:39:20.36
Not only that, but it
teaches people to know
00:39:20.42\00:39:22.42
their faith, experience
it, share it, live it,
00:39:22.52\00:39:25.19
and defend their faith.
- Amen. - Very practical,
00:39:25.29\00:39:29.66
isn't it? - Yes. -
It is. So you take what
00:39:29.76\00:39:32.33
you learn in the classroom
and you go and you put it
00:39:32.43\00:39:34.24
into practice in the
field with real people. - That's
00:39:34.30\00:39:37.71
incredible. We want
to put up your contact
00:39:37.81\00:39:40.31
information. We've been
talking about this wonderful
00:39:40.41\00:39:42.84
soul-winning evangelism
training center-as you
00:39:42.98\00:39:46.85
said,
evangeliving- which is powerful,
00:39:46.95\00:39:50.39
because God calls us to
a lifestyle of evangelism.
00:39:50.49\00:39:53.62
So if you want to contact
SALT, what's your website
00:39:53.69\00:39:56.86
again? - Our website is simple;
it's just soul.training. You
00:39:56.96\00:40:00.06
don't have to put a ".com"
or ".org" at the end of it,
00:40:00.16\00:40:02.60
or "www"; it's just simple.
So, it's just salt.training,
00:40:02.66\00:40:06.84
and that'll take you
to the website. And there,
00:40:06.94\00:40:09.70
you will have all of
the information you need to
00:40:09.80\00:40:11.47
take the SALT
program, partner with the SALT
00:40:11.57\00:40:14.34
program, and also
be equipped by the SALT
00:40:14.38\00:40:16.54
program. - Amen. - And
the phone number. - The
00:40:16.64\00:40:18.51
phone number is (423) 236-2036,
00:40:18.58\00:40:22.18
and that'll come directly
to our SALT office. - Let's
00:40:22.28\00:40:25.19
repeat that number one
more time. - (423) 236-2036.
00:40:25.25\00:40:30.69
- Wonderful; okay.
Well, we switched out some-
00:40:30.79\00:40:33.66
we did some musical
chairs here during the song, so
00:40:33.76\00:40:36.36
instead of Elizabeth
and Jeremy, we have two
00:40:36.46\00:40:38.60
new guests who are going to
tell us about their experience
00:40:38.70\00:40:41.74
in the SALT
program. We have Leah Crosby.
00:40:41.84\00:40:45.47
And Leah, we're so glad
to have you here. - Thank
00:40:45.57\00:40:48.31
you! I'm glad to be
here. - And sitting next to you
00:40:48.44\00:40:51.55
is Milika. - Hi. - Milika...
Saafi? - Yes. - And we're
00:40:51.65\00:40:56.62
so glad to have you here,
as well, Milika. - Thank you
00:40:56.69\00:40:58.79
for having me here. - And
so, let's hear a little bit
00:40:58.85\00:41:01.19
about both of your stories.
We'll start with you, Leah.
00:41:01.32\00:41:04.03
Tell us what led you and
what drew you to the SALT
00:41:04.13\00:41:06.36
program-and how long
ago did you go? - So, I
00:41:06.46\00:41:09.30
went through the SALT
program in 2013. I had
00:41:09.40\00:41:13.50
been doing Bible
work over the- not Bible
00:41:13.64\00:41:15.80
work- canvassing over
the summer! And we would
00:41:15.87\00:41:22.54
offer for those who
we would sell books to
00:41:22.64\00:41:26.85
sign up for Bible
studies. And I thought, "Well,
00:41:26.95\00:41:28.98
wouldn't it be neat
if I could go back and
00:41:29.08\00:41:30.62
actually give Bible studies
to some of these types of
00:41:30.72\00:41:32.89
people?" I had heard
about SALT, I think, it
00:41:32.99\00:41:36.56
was through the
website or something, 'cause it
00:41:36.62\00:41:39.16
had just started a
couple years prior. And then, in
00:41:39.23\00:41:44.80
my devotions, I was reading
about how students should
00:41:44.87\00:41:47.10
learn more about the
Bible. And I was like,
00:41:47.20\00:41:50.14
"Where could I go to
learn about the Bible,
00:41:50.24\00:41:52.47
like, as your
textbook?" And my mom was like,
00:41:52.54\00:41:54.98
"What about SALT?" So
I applied, I think, just
00:41:55.04\00:41:59.31
a month or so before
it started. - Mm, wow. And
00:41:59.41\00:42:02.98
then they accepted
you, and then you attended.
00:42:03.08\00:42:04.49
So you took the
16-week program that we were
00:42:04.59\00:42:06.39
talking about; is that
right? - Correct. - Wonderful.
00:42:06.49\00:42:08.39
- And what was the program
like for you? What was your
00:42:08.49\00:42:10.83
experience? - For me,
what I really liked about
00:42:10.93\00:42:14.16
it... I had been
raised a Seventh-day Adventist
00:42:14.26\00:42:17.50
Christian, but sometimes
I feel like it's almost
00:42:17.57\00:42:20.84
assumed that you know
things...but you may not
00:42:20.90\00:42:24.51
REALLY know them. And
so, I felt like I really
00:42:24.57\00:42:27.74
knew why I was an
Adventist, why I was
00:42:27.84\00:42:30.21
a Christian, and
it wasn't just, "Okay,
00:42:30.31\00:42:33.92
this is what we believe";
it was more of a connection
00:42:34.02\00:42:39.49
of the gospel and
the truth. It wasn't just
00:42:39.59\00:42:42.02
theology; it was alive.
I even considered getting
00:42:43.43\00:42:47.56
rebaptized because it
really just touched me
00:42:47.66\00:42:49.60
in a way that those
doctrines hadn't touched
00:42:49.70\00:42:52.47
me in the past. -
Amen. So not only learning
00:42:52.57\00:42:55.20
what we believe as
Seventh-day Adventist
00:42:55.30\00:42:56.77
Christians and learning
the Sabbath, as we would
00:42:56.87\00:42:58.84
say, and the state of
the dead, and the soon
00:42:58.91\00:43:00.61
return of Jesus...you
learned about Jesus, as
00:43:00.68\00:43:03.35
well, and the combination
of Jesus with the doctrine.
00:43:03.45\00:43:07.25
- Mhm. - So then, you
went out in the field.
00:43:07.35\00:43:12.05
So, you did some canvassing
during the summer, so that's
00:43:12.15\00:43:14.92
knocking on doors.
Did you kind of get over
00:43:15.02\00:43:16.73
that fear of going and
doing Bible studies now
00:43:16.83\00:43:18.99
as you're into the
curriculum? - Yeah,
00:43:19.09\00:43:21.53
that wasn't a fear for me.
- Good for you! - I learned
00:43:22.60\00:43:25.63
to work with other
people when I found out who my
00:43:25.73\00:43:28.07
outreach partner was.
I was like, "Will that
00:43:28.14\00:43:30.11
work!?" So, I learned
more how to work with other
00:43:30.21\00:43:32.87
people. That was, probably,
the biggest practical side
00:43:32.94\00:43:37.78
of things. - Oh,
that's good! - So then now,
00:43:37.88\00:43:39.48
what are you doing now?
'Cause you've taken this,
00:43:39.55\00:43:40.88
you said this has been
a few years ago, and so
00:43:40.92\00:43:43.25
did you continue on,
or what is your career?
00:43:43.35\00:43:45.15
What are you doing? -
So, yeah. SALT just totally
00:43:45.22\00:43:48.49
turned my life
around. I wasn't sure exactly
00:43:48.56\00:43:53.13
what direction I was
going. I had been doing
00:43:53.23\00:43:55.23
elementary ed; and
then after going through the
00:43:55.33\00:43:59.43
SALT program, I just fell
in love with teaching other
00:43:59.53\00:44:02.00
people the Bible and
about Jesus. And towards the end
00:44:02.07\00:44:06.64
of the program,
they had someone there
00:44:06.74\00:44:08.48
recruiting to work as
a Bible worker during the
00:44:08.61\00:44:11.51
next summer. So
I interviewed and I
00:44:11.61\00:44:16.22
got the job just immediately,
and I felt so shocked and
00:44:16.32\00:44:21.52
honored that God would
choose me. It's just been
00:44:21.62\00:44:24.93
one thing after the
other; I never went very long
00:44:24.99\00:44:28.26
without an opportunity.
So, that was just my
00:44:28.33\00:44:31.70
biggest takeaway that
God can actually use me-
00:44:31.77\00:44:34.00
that He has a plan for
my life! Like I may have
00:44:34.14\00:44:36.50
had it all planned
out, like, "This is the way
00:44:36.57\00:44:38.57
I'm going," but God's
plans are always better.
00:44:38.67\00:44:41.94
- Amen. That's
powerful. So you've been doing
00:44:42.04\00:44:44.25
Bible work in different
areas since then. - Correct.
00:44:44.35\00:44:46.98
- Amen! That's exciting.
Well, let's hear a little
00:44:47.08\00:44:49.48
bit of Malika and your
story. - Well, how I came
00:44:49.58\00:44:54.02
to SALT: Pastor
Douglas Na'a came to one of our
00:44:54.12\00:44:58.79
camps-our church camps-
and when I looked at it,
00:44:58.89\00:45:03.57
I was like, "Oh,
okay, this seems good," but
00:45:03.63\00:45:05.60
even before Doug came,
even before Pastor Na'a
00:45:05.73\00:45:10.61
came, I was kind of giving
out literature, but I wasn't
00:45:10.67\00:45:15.74
able to approach
people. So, I was actually just
00:45:15.84\00:45:17.61
putting it on their
cars. So... - So in other
00:45:17.71\00:45:21.35
words, you didn't
really want to talk to someone
00:45:21.48\00:45:22.82
and hand them the
pieces, just like, "Oh, there's
00:45:22.88\00:45:24.65
nobody there, so let
me just put it there."
00:45:24.75\00:45:26.55
- Yeah. - Okay. So this
is like a little Bible study
00:45:26.65\00:45:29.32
card or something, or a
piece of literature? - It
00:45:29.42\00:45:31.69
was like GLOW
tracts. - GLOW tract! Okay.
00:45:31.76\00:45:33.70
- So, I was too scared
to give it to them. But
00:45:34.73\00:45:38.17
when Doug came, he put
up a booth at our church
00:45:38.30\00:45:41.67
camp. And when I
looked at what they offered,
00:45:41.77\00:45:44.94
I was like, "Hm, this
is pretty interesting." So
00:45:45.04\00:45:48.21
I signed up, thinking
that they'll probably just send
00:45:48.31\00:45:50.68
me newsletters and
just updates on the SALT
00:45:50.81\00:45:53.48
program. So, the
next week, Doug called and
00:45:53.58\00:45:58.69
he asked whether I was
interested in joining the
00:45:58.79\00:46:03.56
SALT program, and I
said, "Yeah, but maybe next
00:46:03.66\00:46:06.53
year, not this
fall," which was last year.
00:46:06.59\00:46:09.16
But after the phone call,
it didn't settle well with
00:46:09.26\00:46:13.50
me; so I had to
pray about it, and I was
00:46:13.60\00:46:16.64
strongly impressed to
attend SALT last year.
00:46:16.77\00:46:23.68
- Wow. - So, they
brought me to SALT, so I packed
00:46:23.78\00:46:26.28
my bags from California
and drove all the way to
00:46:26.38\00:46:28.78
Tennessee. - Wow, drove
all the way...yeah. - That's
00:46:28.88\00:46:31.82
a little drive! [laughter]
...All the way across the
00:46:31.95\00:46:34.22
country. - So what did
it do for you? How did it
00:46:34.32\00:46:38.03
change your life? -
Well, now, I'm able to share
00:46:38.09\00:46:41.60
my faith with
others, and not just giving
00:46:41.70\00:46:45.40
GLOW tracts,
putting GLOW tracts on their
00:46:45.50\00:46:47.20
cars; I'm able to
share with others, like pass
00:46:47.30\00:46:50.97
GLOW tracts out with
others. I'm more confident
00:46:51.07\00:46:54.18
now to share my faith-
to tell others what Jesus
00:46:54.31\00:46:58.65
has done for me, so...
And I'm able to use the
00:46:58.78\00:47:02.48
tools that were taught
in SALT, and I'm able to
00:47:02.58\00:47:10.79
apply those tools
to what I'm doing now.
00:47:10.93\00:47:13.46
- Wow. - So tell
me, you were afraid to
00:47:13.53\00:47:16.00
talk to someone; you'd
just leave a GLOW tract
00:47:16.13\00:47:17.80
on someone's hood of their
car. So what was your first
00:47:17.93\00:47:21.54
experience like? The
first time you knocked on a
00:47:21.64\00:47:24.47
door. Do you remember
that-what that's like?
00:47:24.57\00:47:26.61
- Okay, it's funny you
tell me that. The first
00:47:26.68\00:47:29.38
time I knocked on someone's
door... Well, actually, our
00:47:29.51\00:47:34.12
first class, we approached-
me and my canvassing partner
00:47:34.22\00:47:37.92
(who was Destiny)-we
approached the store,
00:47:38.02\00:47:40.42
and she told me, "Look
up; look up!" So I looked
00:47:40.52\00:47:44.33
up, and there was a nest
of wasps. - Oh, dear. - But
00:47:44.39\00:47:48.43
I was impressed to
just knock on their door. We
00:47:49.33\00:47:52.23
weren't going to leave
that house. So, I knocked
00:47:52.33\00:47:55.47
on the door, and
straight away, one of the wasps
00:47:55.57\00:47:57.64
came and stung me on
my lip. - On your lip?!
00:47:57.77\00:48:01.48
- That was your first
experience. - That was
00:48:01.61\00:48:03.45
my first experience that
I'll never forget. And so,
00:48:03.55\00:48:07.48
what was funny...we
decided to continue.
00:48:07.55\00:48:11.25
And what's funny about
it is, every time I'd stay
00:48:12.12\00:48:16.96
quiet, it was
sore-like, it was throbbing. But
00:48:17.06\00:48:23.50
every time we'd go door
to door, it just- it was
00:48:23.60\00:48:28.40
just soothing though it
was sore when I was quiet.
00:48:28.50\00:48:34.44
But every time I tell
people, "Hey, you know,
00:48:34.58\00:48:37.51
you want Bible study?",
it was just soothing, so...
00:48:37.65\00:48:41.48
- God performed a
miracle and took the pain while
00:48:41.58\00:48:44.79
you were at the door
talking with people. - Yes.
00:48:44.89\00:48:46.96
- That's amazing. - I
find it interesting, actually,
00:48:47.06\00:48:48.92
that the wasp stung you
on your lip. It could've
00:48:49.06\00:48:51.19
been your arm or anything
else, but that's what we
00:48:51.29\00:48:53.09
use-our mouth-to talk.
- To share Jesus. - That's
00:48:53.19\00:48:56.23
Satan trying to- but
you said, "No, Satan!
00:48:56.33\00:48:58.43
Yes, I'm going
forward anyway!" [laughter]
00:48:58.53\00:49:01.04
- Wow. So what are
you doing now, then, with
00:49:02.00\00:49:04.17
the training that
you received in your work
00:49:04.27\00:49:06.71
or what you're doing now
currently? - Yep. So right
00:49:06.84\00:49:08.78
now, I'm doing Bible
work in Page, Arizona,
00:49:08.84\00:49:12.71
ministering to the Navajos.
- Wow. - Amen. - Fantastic.
00:49:12.81\00:49:18.19
You know, I think what's
really incredible is that
00:49:19.09\00:49:20.46
you get people from many
different...where they're
00:49:20.56\00:49:23.66
at in their life. Like
you mentioned, from 17 to
00:49:23.76\00:49:26.83
77? I know you just
used that as an interesting
00:49:26.93\00:49:28.60
age range there... But
still, it's neat to see
00:49:28.70\00:49:30.90
what God is doing,
and He can use anybody,
00:49:31.00\00:49:33.27
no matter what we're
doing, so long as we're
00:49:33.37\00:49:35.20
a willing vessel to
be used of God. - Amen.
00:49:35.30\00:49:37.91
Amen. - Does... Oh, go
ahead. - You don't always
00:49:38.04\00:49:40.41
see the results of
it right away, either. I
00:49:40.54\00:49:42.98
just think back to
an experience where a
00:49:43.08\00:49:46.35
SALT student- two SALT
students went up, knocked
00:49:46.51\00:49:49.35
on a door, and the lady
invited them in and said,
00:49:49.45\00:49:52.12
"I just want to
know something. Are you
00:49:52.85\00:49:54.32
Seventh-day Adventists?"
And they were like, "What
00:49:54.42\00:49:57.79
do we say here, because
if they're prejudiced or
00:49:57.89\00:49:59.79
not...?" So
finally, they kind of meekly
00:49:59.89\00:50:01.43
nod. "Well, we are
Seventh-day Adventist
00:50:01.50\00:50:03.00
Christians." And she
said, "Well, good, 'cause I
00:50:03.10\00:50:05.30
wouldn't study the
Bible with anyone else." Two
00:50:05.37\00:50:07.94
years beforehand,
SALT students had studied
00:50:08.07\00:50:11.27
the Bible with her,
lost contact... She had moved
00:50:11.34\00:50:14.81
away; no one knew
where she was. And now, they
00:50:15.78\00:50:18.51
knocked on her door
again, and she invited them in
00:50:18.61\00:50:20.82
and she got so excited,
started studying the Bible
00:50:20.92\00:50:23.72
with him, her
neighbor started studying the
00:50:23.79\00:50:25.92
Bible... Again, we
had meetings, and both of
00:50:26.05\00:50:28.12
them were baptized at
the end of the meetings...
00:50:28.22\00:50:30.06
...two years after the
initial contact. - Yeah.
00:50:30.16\00:50:32.76
- So at the end of the
16 weeks, is there always
00:50:32.86\00:50:34.90
an evangelistic series
like you're mentioning?
00:50:35.00\00:50:37.17
- Yes. - There is! Okay,
and it's being... I mean,
00:50:37.27\00:50:40.44
who are the evangelists?
Are they some of the
00:50:40.54\00:50:41.87
students, or one of the
professors? - Typically,
00:50:41.90\00:50:44.54
it'll be like Pastor
Na'a will preach, or we'll
00:50:44.61\00:50:47.74
bring in an evangelist.
Students will get involved
00:50:47.84\00:50:50.81
in presenting other
things, but the meetings will be
00:50:50.91\00:50:53.08
held by professional
evangelists. - Okay.
00:50:53.18\00:50:55.05
And then the follow-up,
is that done by some of
00:50:55.15\00:50:56.75
the SALT students? -
The wonderful thing is that
00:50:56.85\00:50:58.89
part of the SALT program
is partnering with a local
00:50:58.99\00:51:02.02
church, so that the students
get to see the whole experience-
00:51:02.09\00:51:05.99
the whole process of
evangelism. So like right
00:51:06.09\00:51:09.26
now, we are gearing up
our next church for our
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upcoming evangelistic
meetings this November.
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And so, part of the training-or
that church-is transitioning
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contacts over to the
local members. So, there's a
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sense of ownership by
the local church members
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off this program. And
so once the SALT program
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leaves, it transitions
out to the next church.
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The local members
are actually following up
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with many of these wonderful
people that have just been
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baptized. - Amen!
We want to put up the
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contact information
one more time before we go
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to the news break here,
and then we'll come back
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for some closing thoughts.
It's been an exciting program.
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- It has. - It
inspires me to want to get
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involved in evangelism!
If you want to contact
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the SALT ministry,
just go to their website:
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That's all you
need to put in. Type in:
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And you'll see the
three-pronged approach
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or the three platforms
that they have that you
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can attend; the four-month
evangelism training...
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You can invite the SALT
brethren to your church,
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and they can teach
you how to do evangelism
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in your local area!
Or, you can just look at
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SALT 365 and you can
see resources and learn
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how to do evangelism at
home and abroad, so we're
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going to go to a news
break- we'll be right back.
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