I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Removing pain
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Lord, let my words
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Heal a heart that hurts
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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Hello and welcome to
another 3ABN Today Program.
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I'm Jason Bradley
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and today we are going to
talk about Lineage Journey.
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What is lineage journey?
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Well, stay tuned,
you're gonna find out.
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My guests today are...
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We have Adam Ramdin,
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he's with the
North England Conference
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and he's the Youth Director.
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And then we have Clive Coutet,
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who is the Media
Director of Weimar Institute.
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It's a pleasure to
have you guys here.
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Good to be here. Good, good.
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I've seen Lineage Journey
and the quality is so amazing.
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I want to find out a little
bit about your backgrounds
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and, you know, what it
took to get this project
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to come together,
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how long it took,
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we're going to
get into all that.
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But before we jump in to
the meat of the interview,
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I want to go to a
song by Matt Throgmorton
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entitled "Consider the Lilies."
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Consider the lilies
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They don't toil nor spin
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But there's not a king
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With more splendor than them
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Consider the sparrows
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They don't plant nor sow
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But they're fed by the master
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Who watches them grow
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We have a Heavenly Father
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Above
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With eyes full of mercy
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And a heart full of love
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He really cares
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When your head is bowed low
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Consider the lilies
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And then you will know
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May I introduce you
to this friend of mine
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Who hangs out the stars,
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tells the sun when to shine
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And kisses the flowers
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each morning with dew
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But He's not too busy
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to care about you
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We have a Heavenly Father
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Above
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With eyes full of mercy
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And a heart full of love
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He really cares
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When your head is bowed low
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Consider the lilies
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And then you will know
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Oh, yes, He cares
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I know He cares
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His heart is touched
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with my grief
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When the days are weary
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The long nights dreary
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Consider the lilies
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and then you will know
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He cares
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Wow, what a beautiful song.
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"Consider the Lilies."
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Adam, I want to find out
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a little bit
about your background.
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Were you raised Adventist?
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So you were raised Adventist?
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I was raised Adventist,
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both my parents,
brother and sister,
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neither of them
came from Adventist home.
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So, I was born
and raised in England,
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grew up over there.
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So raised in the church,
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wasn't baptized
till I was 19 though,
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and then I went
to do some studies
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and got into ministry in my 20s.
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Okay, and what about you, Clive?
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Pretty similar experience
with my parents anyway.
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My mom wasn't raised
Adventist, my dad was
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and then I was raised Adventist,
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but kind of as a young
person growing up in church,
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you kind of get lost
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and kind of left
it mentally anyway.
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And it was really through
some life changing experiences
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in my late teens and early 20s
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that really
changed my life around
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and I found Christ again.
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Amen.
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Adam, you're no
stranger to 3ABN.
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I've been here a
couple of times, yeah.
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Yeah.
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What growth have you
seen since you've been here?
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Growth with the...?
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With Lineage. Okay.
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Yeah, we came about
year and a half ago,
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we were filming,
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we were releasing
what we call Season One.
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And we're filming
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in the process of
filming Season Two.
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So since then we've
obviously finished Season One,
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we took a six month break,
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and then we started
releasing Season Two.
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We're actually almost completed
releasing season two so,
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in that time,
since we last came,
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it's grown a lot in
terms of the countries
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that it's been viewed in,
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and obviously
the number of people
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who have been watching it
and where it's been watched.
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So it's been quite
remarkable to see that growth.
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It was never
something we knew would,
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or expect it will happen,
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or thought would
happen, we just thought,
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"Yeah, few people here
and there might watch it."
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If you had to throw out a number
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how many people would
you say have been reached?
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Just shy of 3 million.
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Wow!
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Well, that's taking
into account Facebook views,
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YouTube views, Video views,
and the website and so on.
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But the real number
we don't really know.
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Obviously, we
don't know, I mean,
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that's the
digital number you get.
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But a lot of the
testimonies we get back in
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is that people
who are watching it
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are watching it in
schools, like classrooms,
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or they're
watching in Sabbath schools,
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or they're watching
it, a lot of churches show
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at the end of Sabbath
school or divine service.
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So, you know,
it may be one view,
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but 200 people watch it,
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so we don't really know exactly.
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Nice.
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So, you said,
churches are showing it
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in Sabbath schools
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and all other southern
schools are showing it.
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What kind of...
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How do they use
that like, is it,
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can they do seminars with
it, I mean, how's that work?
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Well, I know for
example, my home church,
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they kind of do
it as a youth program
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and they have the
youth watch the episode
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and then they have
a discussion about it.
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Where on other churches
who kind of use it and play it
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in between Sabbath
school and divine service,
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it's like a filler,
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and especially the
500 year anniversary
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of the
Reformation in 2017, you know,
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all the churches were
talking about Reformation
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and what was
happening in the Reformation.
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So it was really good
for especially church members
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to kind of learn
history, learn the background
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of, you know, the origins
of roots of Protestantism.
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So, yeah, it's being
used in multiple ways,
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whether young, old,
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everyone's kind of
taking the information
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and learning just
tons of information.
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Praise the Lord.
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Now, how did you
come up with the name?
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Good question.
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So the idea was
Clive's idea... Okay.
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He originally approached me
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on the steps of the
British Museum and said,
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"Hey, do you want
to film some videos
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on Reformation
history here in England,
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we've got the British Museum,
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we've got John
Wesley's home and so on."
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And then we thought,
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well, let's go to
Oxford, and Cambridge,
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and Lutterworth where
John Wycliffe was from
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and then we thought Scotland.
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So we kind of built this
idea, but we were still...
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And then the idea was to have
a series that would go weekly.
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So one episode a
week throughout the year.
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So that was the
idea, weekly episodes.
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And then thinking of a name,
we brainstormed a lot of ideas.
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And it was actually...
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So we're thinking
of all these ideas,
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and some of
them now I look back,
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I'm so glad we didn't pick them.
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Lineage, it's kind
of has a ring to it.
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It's just one word and whatnot.
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But the idea kind
of behind the name
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was that the
episodes were chronological.
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So we started with Constantine.
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Then we went all the way up
to say, the end of the 1700s.
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And each episode
was chronological.
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So the idea behind lineage
was we're tracing the story
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of our heritage, of
our history through time.
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So then, lineage journey,
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you know, the
journey of our lineage
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and how we can
trace that through time.
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Nice.
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So, have you
always been into history?
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Personally, I have, yeah.
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Yeah. What about you, Clive?
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I wouldn't say I was,
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especially in
school, I definitely wasn't.
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But as I became an Adventist
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and really found the Lord again,
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especially after
reading the Great Controversy,
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that's when my mind
really just got unlocked.
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And when I started to
visualize, I'm a creative.
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So I started to
visualize a lot of the stuff,
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you know, went on to YouTube,
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try to find, you
know, good representations,
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good videos, I just
couldn't find that stuff.
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So I guess, to
answer your question,
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no, I haven't
always been in history,
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but as an Adventist,
yes, I have been into history.
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And why do you guys
think it's so important
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to be aware of your history?
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I think, for me,
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history and identity
are so tied together.
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And you know, a lot of people
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they wanted to know
where they come from,
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as you know,
ethnicity or they want to know
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about family
heritage is or, you know,
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let me trace my family
tree and all that kind of stuff.
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So we have an
interest on a personal level,
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but I think
spiritually, increasingly
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as Christians or as Adventists.
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The younger generation
is not always aware like,
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what happened 50
years ago, 100 years ago,
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but it's
interesting to know those,
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I believe those stories
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'cause it plays a part
in shaping who we are today.
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And so knowing your
past helps you to understand
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why you're here in
the present, really.
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And also helps you to
understand the future.
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Yes, yes.
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'Cause they say
history has a tendency
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or a way of repeating itself...
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Yeah, it does unfortunately,
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and try and learn the lessons
from the past and yeah...
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Absolutely. Now, how many...
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I know you said
that you want to show
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like an episode a week.
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So how many
episodes are in a season?
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Initially, Season One
was gonna be, you know,
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the full 52 weeks but
it didn't quite work out.
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So it was only 48.
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Okay, okay.
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But 48 is enough.
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This guy will
tell you it was a lot.
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Yeah, it was a lot of work.
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But then Season Two,
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we kind of made up
for that and we did 52
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so in total for
season one and two,
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we have 100 episodes.
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Plus loads of, you know,
behind the scenes videos.
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We also have Season One,
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a lot of the videos
have 360 video as well.
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So young people can
kind of explore the locations
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to where these things
took place in 360 degree video.
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And, so yeah,
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we have quite a lot of episodes.
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And I would say
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there's probably
about 60, 360 videos,
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and maybe about 10
behind the scenes videos.
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So we're looking at
about 170, something like that.
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Yeah. Wow.
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And what's your
creative process?
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When you're thinking about,
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you know,
creating these episodes,
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what's your process?
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What are you thinking about
while you're developing this?
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I mean, for me,
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I'm really thinking
about how is this history,
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which often enough
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to the average
person may be boring?
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How can we make
that boring history
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relevant to someone
in their life, you know,
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but then also the
message has to be relevant,
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which is why there's
an evangelistic appeal
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at the end of
every single episode,
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but also visually how
is it gonna be appealing.
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You know, often enough
stuff can be very low quality
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or, you know, it may not
be to a very high standard
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but, you know,
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young people want to
see good quality stuff.
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And, you know,
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one of the things
that we were thinking about
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is on social media for example,
on YouTube or an Instagram,
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you have probably
up to three seconds
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to reach someone
before they just scroll past.
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Yes.
00:14:14.52\00:14:15.85
So that's why, you
know, at the beginning
00:14:15.88\00:14:17.29
of every single Lineage episode,
00:14:17.32\00:14:18.89
there's really
fast paced imagery
00:14:18.92\00:14:22.19
within the first three seconds
00:14:22.22\00:14:23.56
it's this, you know,
really fast paced clips
00:14:23.63\00:14:25.56
to kind of grab
someone's attention
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so that it will draw them
into want to watch the rest
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of the three to
five minute video.
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Um, so yeah, really important
00:14:31.90\00:14:33.64
in terms of the
creative processes
00:14:33.67\00:14:35.07
is the message obviously,
also, how is that gonna,
00:14:35.10\00:14:37.94
how is that message
going to be portrayed visually.
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So there's a science
behind it? Yes, definitely.
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We've also tried to make
00:14:44.41\00:14:45.75
as much of the
filming on location.
00:14:45.78\00:14:49.38
So rather than, you know,
00:14:49.42\00:14:51.15
a green screen or something
and there's no problem,
00:14:51.19\00:14:53.39
you know, some
people have to use it,
00:14:53.46\00:14:54.96
but we've tried as
much as possible that way.
00:14:54.99\00:14:56.86
If I'm talking
about John Wycliffe,
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I'm standing by his
church or we're talking
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and I think that gives
it an added, I don't know,
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realness or what
it would be like,
00:15:03.80\00:15:05.43
we're talking about Jan Hus.
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I'm standing where he died,
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or we're talking
about William Miller,
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and we're in his house.
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So it gives that connection.
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It's not just...
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So it shows that, you
know, we went to the places
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and the filming was on location.
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I think with like
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this millennial
generation that we have,
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it's not enough
just to read it in books.
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Sometimes, and some
people don't even read books,
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you know, but it's not enough.
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People want to kind of
see what you're talking about.
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So that's why, you know,
being on location helps people
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to explore those places.
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This is where, you
know, Martin Luther stood up.
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This is where, you
know, John Wycliffe, you know,
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what this process is,
this is the physical location
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where these things took place.
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It really brings it to life.
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Exactly.
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So okay, so when you're
recording these episodes,
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and, you know,
from start to finish,
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give us an idea
of, let's say your...
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not the creative
process, we talked about that.
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But from start to
finish, how long does it take?
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To film or to edit it?
00:16:05.23\00:16:06.70
To film from start to finish,
00:16:06.73\00:16:08.36
filming, editing,
planning, the whole nine.
00:16:08.40\00:16:13.34
I mean, the filming,
00:16:13.37\00:16:15.04
if all the
filming stays in one area
00:16:15.07\00:16:17.21
where we can
walk to all different,
00:16:17.24\00:16:18.94
we do all the different shots
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roughly four,
four hours roughly.
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By that time you
do the drone shots,
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the B-roll, the dialogue
and memorizing it and whatnot.
00:16:26.11\00:16:30.32
So probably about four hours.
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Four hours of recording, really?
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Maybe three, maybe three.
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It also depends on, you
know, a lot of the time,
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the physical locations
are in different places.
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So sometimes we have
to travel in between that.
00:16:41.23\00:16:43.20
But if we were to just
do it from start to finish,
00:16:43.23\00:16:45.53
probably filming
wise, four hours,
00:16:45.57\00:16:47.67
typically, in terms
of trying to save money,
00:16:47.70\00:16:51.21
we've had to do
things really quickly.
00:16:51.24\00:16:53.41
So we're kind
of in and we're out
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and on to the next location.
00:16:54.84\00:16:56.18
He's always like "Oh,
I got 6% of battery life.
00:16:56.21\00:16:57.78
You got to get it
right in one shot."
00:16:57.81\00:16:59.75
You gotta do in
one take, you know.
00:16:59.78\00:17:02.25
Yeah, no pressure, no pressure.
00:17:02.28\00:17:05.15
But in terms of
the editing process
00:17:05.19\00:17:08.09
Season One typically per episode
00:17:08.12\00:17:10.73
took two to three days.
00:17:10.76\00:17:12.36
Season Two has taken
so about one to two days.
00:17:12.39\00:17:16.50
That's because, you
know, we've been able
00:17:16.53\00:17:17.87
to refine the
process and review.
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After Season One I
was able to review things
00:17:19.27\00:17:20.84
and see how was a
better way of doing it,
00:17:20.87\00:17:23.41
you're able to cut
down the time a little bit,
00:17:23.44\00:17:25.57
but it's still
very time consuming.
00:17:25.61\00:17:27.11
So you're
talking about, you know,
00:17:27.18\00:17:28.71
at least three or
four days per episode
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and that's not
including the script writing
00:17:30.38\00:17:32.01
and the
logistics and the planning
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and all that kind of stuff.
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Three to four days per episode.
00:17:34.82\00:17:36.15
Okay, so it's
not two to three days
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for all 50 something...
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No, no, no.
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Okay, I was about to
say that is incredibly fast.
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Now, if we knew all the
work before we start the project
00:17:45.16\00:17:49.73
and some of it so like you
film a lot on location, right.
00:17:49.76\00:17:54.04
So you have to
climb mountains and stuff
00:17:54.07\00:17:56.81
where like to get
some of these shots.
00:17:56.84\00:17:58.17
Yeah, I mean,
00:17:58.21\00:17:59.54
some of the first
season was a lot in Europe.
00:17:59.57\00:18:00.91
So a lot of it
was in the capitals,
00:18:00.94\00:18:02.44
the cathedrals
and places like that.
00:18:02.48\00:18:05.45
And there were some
places we climbed the mountain,
00:18:05.48\00:18:06.85
the Waldensian episode
we climbed the mountain
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to film at sunrise.
00:18:09.42\00:18:10.89
And so we had to leave at
like, 4 o'clock in the morning
00:18:10.92\00:18:13.56
or 5 to climb up
and we got there.
00:18:13.59\00:18:16.26
At least Clive got
there on the sunrise,
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I was a little bit behind him.
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Season Two was
Adventist history.
00:18:21.66\00:18:23.03
And that was a
completely different...
00:18:23.06\00:18:26.23
For the most part
completely different
00:18:26.27\00:18:27.64
because instead of going
to like big austere cathedrals
00:18:27.67\00:18:30.91
and, you know,
00:18:30.94\00:18:32.27
seeing reformation
statues and monuments,
00:18:32.31\00:18:34.64
we were traveling like
New England and New York,
00:18:34.68\00:18:37.91
just tiny little
farms and little villages.
00:18:37.95\00:18:40.45
And it was an
interesting contrast
00:18:40.52\00:18:42.02
to see the contrast between
say the Reformation origins
00:18:42.05\00:18:44.42
and then seeing the
origins of Adventism,
00:18:44.45\00:18:47.06
which was very humble
00:18:47.09\00:18:48.92
and very, to the
average view insignificant.
00:18:48.96\00:18:52.96
But yet to see
00:18:52.99\00:18:54.33
where our history has come from,
00:18:54.36\00:18:55.70
from really humble
beginnings to where we are today
00:18:55.73\00:18:58.20
is pretty, pretty amazing.
00:18:58.23\00:19:00.27
And I think Season One
was also challenging at times
00:19:00.34\00:19:03.10
because we were filming
and editing at the same time,
00:19:03.14\00:19:06.21
you know, so, like
Adam just mentioned
00:19:06.24\00:19:08.84
that one morning where
we climbed up Monte Castello
00:19:08.88\00:19:11.78
so to go film an episode
on the Waldensian Valley,
00:19:11.81\00:19:14.02
and the night before,
00:19:14.05\00:19:15.75
we had an episode
coming out that very morning,
00:19:15.78\00:19:18.39
and I was editing until 3 am
00:19:18.42\00:19:20.39
to then wake up at 5 to
climb a mountain, you know,
00:19:20.46\00:19:23.63
and but the process was...
00:19:23.66\00:19:26.19
Because we were
very new to this,
00:19:26.23\00:19:27.60
it kind of grew organically
and so fast, you know,
00:19:27.63\00:19:31.33
there wasn't much time
to kind of refine things,
00:19:31.37\00:19:33.84
but we managed to
do that for Season Two.
00:19:33.87\00:19:36.57
But I mean, even
just making stuff
00:19:36.60\00:19:38.04
visually
interesting for Season Two.
00:19:38.07\00:19:39.51
Season One like Adam said,
00:19:39.54\00:19:40.88
monuments and that kind of stuff
00:19:40.91\00:19:42.24
but we have an
episode of Season One
00:19:42.28\00:19:44.25
on the potato patch preachers,
00:19:44.28\00:19:45.61
you know, how do you make
00:19:45.65\00:19:46.98
a potato farm
field look interesting.
00:19:47.02\00:19:49.25
These are some of the challenges
00:19:49.28\00:19:50.62
that we had to
get through and...
00:19:50.69\00:19:52.02
Man, how did you make?
00:19:52.05\00:19:53.39
How did you do that?
00:19:53.42\00:19:55.66
Watch the episode
and you'll find out.
00:19:55.69\00:19:59.73
And we actually have some
video that we are going to show.
00:19:59.76\00:20:04.00
And tell us a little
bit about the first one
00:20:04.07\00:20:05.93
that we're going
to take a look at.
00:20:05.97\00:20:07.34
Probably the easiest one
to make visually interesting
00:20:07.37\00:20:08.87
was the one on
Adventist education.
00:20:08.90\00:20:12.24
So we were talking about
the history of Adventism,
00:20:12.27\00:20:14.41
but then key to
Adventist, you know, our church,
00:20:14.44\00:20:17.48
the Adventist Church
is focused on education.
00:20:17.55\00:20:20.52
So we did an episode
00:20:20.55\00:20:21.88
on how the
Adventist education started,
00:20:21.92\00:20:24.09
where the vision came from,
00:20:24.12\00:20:25.49
the focus on
education, a holistic education
00:20:25.52\00:20:27.59
that it wasn't just
kind of academic achievement,
00:20:27.66\00:20:30.26
but it was the
education of the whole person.
00:20:30.33\00:20:32.56
And it was mission minded,
and it was Bible based, etc.
00:20:32.59\00:20:36.56
And when we
released that episode
00:20:36.60\00:20:39.00
we actually put
out on social media,
00:20:39.03\00:20:40.44
on Facebook and Instagram.
00:20:40.47\00:20:41.87
If you've got video clips
of your Adventist schools,
00:20:41.90\00:20:43.84
please send them into us.
00:20:43.91\00:20:45.54
And we had an amazing
support around the world
00:20:45.57\00:20:47.51
of people sending
us clips from Korea
00:20:47.58\00:20:49.31
and different parts of Africa,
South America, and Europe.
00:20:49.34\00:20:52.21
And so that episode,
00:20:52.25\00:20:53.82
we were able to get
video clips kind of worldwide,
00:20:53.85\00:20:57.19
threw in worldwide
Adventism education today
00:20:57.22\00:21:00.76
and people really
connected with that
00:21:00.79\00:21:02.36
when they saw their school
or their alma mater, you know,
00:21:02.39\00:21:04.59
on that and so
that was a real blessing
00:21:04.63\00:21:07.73
that episode so...
00:21:07.76\00:21:09.10
Wow.
00:21:09.13\00:21:10.47
Well, we might as
well show it right now.
00:21:10.50\00:21:11.83
Let's check out
00:21:11.87\00:21:13.20
the birth of
Adventist education.
00:21:13.23\00:21:14.57
The Adventist
Church was in its infancy
00:21:32.52\00:21:35.12
with a membership that was
only in the tens of thousands
00:21:35.16\00:21:38.96
and yet it had
already made ventures
00:21:38.99\00:21:41.46
into the publishing
work and the health work.
00:21:41.50\00:21:44.00
Despite a small
membership, it would soon move
00:21:44.07\00:21:47.04
into the
educational field as well
00:21:47.07\00:21:49.90
with a vision far greater
00:21:49.94\00:21:52.04
than the reality of
church life at the time.
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A school had started in
1868 by Goodloe Harper Bell,
00:21:55.51\00:22:00.12
that was supported
locally here in Battle Creek.
00:22:00.15\00:22:03.49
But in 1872,
James and Ellen White
00:22:03.52\00:22:06.76
would call for the
upgrading of this school
00:22:06.79\00:22:09.19
into an advanced
educational institution
00:22:09.22\00:22:12.03
and also for the denomination
to support the school.
00:22:12.06\00:22:16.23
As guidance for the school,
00:22:22.27\00:22:23.74
Ellen White wrote testimony
for the church number 22,
00:22:23.81\00:22:27.58
where she developed
the fundamental principle
00:22:27.61\00:22:30.05
of the correlation
between the physical, mental,
00:22:30.08\00:22:33.28
moral and religious
aspects of education.
00:22:33.31\00:22:36.89
The Bible was not to be just
an elective option to study,
00:22:36.92\00:22:40.29
but was to be infused
00:22:40.36\00:22:41.69
throughout the whole curriculum,
00:22:41.72\00:22:43.43
eliminating the
classics as the main thrust.
00:22:43.46\00:22:47.00
Initially the
teachers and administrators
00:22:47.03\00:22:49.60
struggled to implement
00:22:49.63\00:22:51.07
what they probably didn't
fully understand themselves.
00:22:51.10\00:22:54.57
As well as making the
curriculum Bible based,
00:22:54.60\00:22:57.54
there was also the admonition
00:22:57.61\00:22:59.37
to include a
manual labor program.
00:22:59.41\00:23:01.74
Education was to move away
00:23:07.52\00:23:10.19
from the Latin
and Greek classics
00:23:10.22\00:23:11.99
and be holistic,
00:23:12.02\00:23:13.56
focusing on
character development
00:23:13.59\00:23:15.76
and daily reminding the students
00:23:15.79\00:23:17.73
of their obligation
to God, to live for Him
00:23:17.76\00:23:20.60
and be a
missionary wherever they were.
00:23:20.63\00:23:23.77
The focus on manual
labor and missionary work
00:23:23.80\00:23:26.37
is reflected in the
early names of these schools.
00:23:26.40\00:23:30.11
The College of
Medical Evangelist,
00:23:30.14\00:23:32.67
Emmanuel Missionary College,
Southern Missionary College,
00:23:32.71\00:23:36.75
Australasian Missionary College
and Oakwood Industrial School,
00:23:36.78\00:23:41.25
the purpose was the mission.
00:23:41.28\00:23:43.49
The name of the school
00:23:43.52\00:23:44.85
reflected the
purpose of the church
00:23:44.89\00:23:47.06
to train
missionaries at home and abroad.
00:23:47.09\00:23:50.83
The vision to start
00:23:55.43\00:23:56.77
a comprehensive
educational system
00:23:56.80\00:23:59.10
would mushroom and grow.
00:23:59.13\00:24:01.00
Education is such a
key evangelistic strategy.
00:24:01.04\00:24:04.81
The places today where
the church is stronger,
00:24:04.84\00:24:07.64
have a strong
Adventist educational system
00:24:07.68\00:24:10.75
that is valued and
supported by the members.
00:24:10.78\00:24:14.22
Education that recognizes
00:24:14.25\00:24:15.92
it's not just for
academic advancement,
00:24:15.95\00:24:19.02
but that is also
evangelistic and redemptive,
00:24:19.05\00:24:22.19
echoing the words of Ellen White
00:24:22.22\00:24:24.23
that education and
redemption are one.
00:24:24.26\00:24:27.60
The work of education
now encompasses the globe
00:24:31.83\00:24:35.27
with the largest
Protestant school system,
00:24:35.30\00:24:37.74
but our strength
lies not in our size,
00:24:37.77\00:24:40.88
but in our faithfulness
to the original purpose
00:24:40.91\00:24:43.65
of setting up the
educational school system.
00:24:43.68\00:24:46.85
Practical education
with a clear mission focus
00:24:46.92\00:24:50.19
was the primary
motivating factor
00:24:50.22\00:24:52.69
rather than just
academic excellence.
00:24:52.72\00:24:55.49
Many today do not
have the opportunity
00:25:00.33\00:25:02.63
of an Adventist education.
00:25:02.66\00:25:04.63
If that is you,
00:25:04.67\00:25:06.00
then may you be a witness
in your school or university,
00:25:06.03\00:25:09.07
like the
Waldensians in years gone by.
00:25:09.10\00:25:11.77
Proverb says,
00:25:11.81\00:25:13.14
"Train up a child
in the way he shall go.
00:25:13.17\00:25:15.68
And when he is old, he
will not depart from it."
00:25:15.71\00:25:19.41
Whether it's at
Sabbath school, home school,
00:25:19.45\00:25:22.08
or Adventist school,
00:25:22.12\00:25:23.49
we see that
education is vitally important
00:25:23.52\00:25:26.76
in solidifying what we believe,
00:25:26.79\00:25:29.02
as well as giving us the
skills that we need in life.
00:25:29.06\00:25:32.63
If you live near a
school, then support it,
00:25:32.66\00:25:35.33
support the youth
who are attending,
00:25:35.36\00:25:37.37
whether it's financially,
through your prayers,
00:25:37.40\00:25:39.73
by volunteering, by working,
00:25:39.77\00:25:41.77
or in whatever way that you can.
00:25:41.80\00:25:44.04
Wow, that made
history come alive.
00:26:03.16\00:26:06.43
What countries have
you been to, to record?
00:26:06.46\00:26:09.76
About, I was counting,
I think it's about 11, 12.
00:26:09.80\00:26:14.64
So, France, Italy, Switzerland,
Czech Republic, Germany,
00:26:14.67\00:26:20.28
Denmark, Sweden,
England, Scotland,
00:26:20.31\00:26:25.75
Wales, then
Australia, New Zealand,
00:26:25.78\00:26:29.82
the United States of America.
00:26:29.85\00:26:32.65
I think that's
it. That's it. Yeah.
00:26:32.69\00:26:34.06
So far.
00:26:34.09\00:26:35.42
Wow.
00:26:35.46\00:26:36.79
So far.
00:26:36.83\00:26:38.16
I mean, that's
quite a bit right there.
00:26:38.19\00:26:39.53
Has anything out of the ordinary
00:26:39.56\00:26:40.90
happened in any
of these countries?
00:26:40.93\00:26:42.26
Ah...
00:26:42.30\00:26:44.90
I mean, we've had
numerous testimonies
00:26:44.93\00:26:47.24
that have come through.
00:26:47.27\00:26:49.00
I say, one of the testimonies
that we heard recently
00:26:49.04\00:26:53.58
is actually from what,
from wherever from England
00:26:53.61\00:26:56.04
was a young guy who,
00:26:56.08\00:26:58.11
maybe he is about
nine I think or ten,
00:26:58.15\00:27:00.22
and he was in school.
00:27:00.25\00:27:01.58
And he actually went
to a Catholic school.
00:27:01.62\00:27:04.72
And he actually knew Adam
00:27:04.75\00:27:07.36
'cause Adam
preaches a lot in England,
00:27:07.39\00:27:09.69
and his teacher's
actually an atheist.
00:27:09.72\00:27:13.06
And they were doing
some history lessons
00:27:13.09\00:27:15.70
on some of the work
that took place in England.
00:27:15.73\00:27:18.40
And they ended up playing
one of the Lineage episodes
00:27:18.43\00:27:20.74
in a Catholic school
by an atheist teacher.
00:27:20.77\00:27:24.31
And he shared a
little testimony,
00:27:24.34\00:27:26.17
he ended up telling his teacher
that you know, he knew Adam,
00:27:26.21\00:27:28.84
and there was anything else?
00:27:28.88\00:27:30.58
The teacher was looking for...
00:27:30.65\00:27:32.61
Was online searching for videos
that would illustrate his point
00:27:32.65\00:27:35.25
of noble
characters from history.
00:27:35.28\00:27:37.79
And he bumped across a Lineage
episode and showed in class
00:27:37.82\00:27:41.22
and you know the
student there in England was,
00:27:41.26\00:27:43.53
you know, really excited
to tell his teacher that hey,
00:27:43.56\00:27:45.66
you know, that's some.
00:27:45.69\00:27:47.03
Well, I know the
person and but also,
00:27:47.10\00:27:48.43
that's something so
that was interesting to see
00:27:48.46\00:27:50.40
that it's not just being
used maybe within the circle
00:27:50.47\00:27:53.44
that we would assume but,
00:27:53.47\00:27:54.90
you know, in a
public school as well.
00:27:54.94\00:27:57.54
So that was pretty...
00:27:57.61\00:27:58.97
But it sounds like experiences,
00:27:59.01\00:28:00.48
you know, we shot the episode
in New Zealand last year.
00:28:00.51\00:28:04.05
And there's a guy
00:28:04.08\00:28:06.95
that's mentioned
called Eric Hare.
00:28:07.02\00:28:09.38
And he's a prominent
figure in the history
00:28:09.42\00:28:10.92
of what took
place in New Zealand.
00:28:10.99\00:28:12.52
And we ended up driving
to this town called Kaeo.
00:28:12.55\00:28:15.99
And in the town,
there's like a little museum.
00:28:16.02\00:28:19.13
We went to the museum
00:28:19.16\00:28:20.50
and we were talking to this lady
00:28:20.53\00:28:22.30
and we're asking about the
information about Eric Hare
00:28:22.33\00:28:25.10
if there was any
pictures or anything like that,
00:28:25.13\00:28:26.84
and she was kind
of intrigued like,
00:28:26.87\00:28:28.30
why are we
interested in this person?
00:28:28.34\00:28:29.70
We come all the
way from England.
00:28:29.74\00:28:31.11
This town is like,
00:28:31.14\00:28:32.84
it's smaller than Thompsonville.
00:28:32.87\00:28:34.21
Yeah. It's like...
00:28:34.28\00:28:35.61
It's really
small. Tiny, tiny, tiny.
00:28:35.64\00:28:36.98
Yeah.
00:28:37.01\00:28:38.35
Probably like
200, 300 meters long,
00:28:38.38\00:28:40.32
just a few houses.
00:28:40.35\00:28:41.95
And yet it's interesting
'cause the Adventist Church
00:28:41.98\00:28:43.89
the Jehovah's Witness
00:28:43.92\00:28:45.25
and the Catholic
Church in New Zealand
00:28:45.29\00:28:46.62
all started in this little town.
00:28:46.65\00:28:48.46
So they...
00:28:48.49\00:28:49.82
The locals kind of
know their history,
00:28:49.86\00:28:51.19
they know their
heritage that this is there.
00:28:51.23\00:28:52.93
So when we came up
they're asking about
00:28:52.96\00:28:55.06
the Adventist history like
Joseph Hare or Eric B. Hare.
00:28:55.10\00:28:59.07
Her ears perked up and...
00:28:59.10\00:29:00.77
And, you know,
we discovered that
00:29:00.84\00:29:02.27
she was actually
a descendant of him.
00:29:02.30\00:29:04.44
Really?
00:29:04.47\00:29:05.81
So she was a
family, long relative,
00:29:05.84\00:29:08.34
I can't remember if it was
great, great granddaughter,
00:29:08.38\00:29:10.95
or, you know, second
cousin or something like that.
00:29:10.98\00:29:12.75
But she was a
relative of this man.
00:29:12.78\00:29:15.35
So she was super intrigued
about what we're doing.
00:29:15.38\00:29:17.89
She's very
helpful. Very helpful.
00:29:17.92\00:29:19.69
Sent us all this information,
went back to England.
00:29:19.72\00:29:22.62
And you know, she
sent us more photos,
00:29:22.66\00:29:25.36
and every now and then
I've emailed her saying,
00:29:25.39\00:29:27.50
you know, do you have
this or do you have that
00:29:27.53\00:29:28.93
and she's taking
pictures and photocopied
00:29:28.96\00:29:30.50
and she's not an
Adventist herself.
00:29:30.57\00:29:32.33
You know, it was
just a blessing to see
00:29:32.37\00:29:35.84
how we're on the
other side of the world.
00:29:35.87\00:29:38.37
And we managed to
meet a descendant of,
00:29:38.41\00:29:40.91
you know, Joseph Hare,
00:29:40.98\00:29:43.08
who was prominent
in starting up the work
00:29:43.11\00:29:44.98
within New Zealand.
00:29:45.01\00:29:46.82
And she was just so
helpful and really grateful
00:29:46.85\00:29:50.12
that we were doing a video
on her family history really.
00:29:50.19\00:29:54.06
Joseph was the first
Adventist in New Zealand.
00:29:54.09\00:29:55.69
Okay.
00:29:55.72\00:29:57.06
Then his son was Robert Hare
who became a famous evangelist.
00:29:57.13\00:30:00.30
He studied at
Pacific Union College,
00:30:00.33\00:30:02.13
went back there.
00:30:02.16\00:30:03.50
He had a son
called Eric B. Hare,
00:30:03.57\00:30:06.84
who is famous in Adventism
for being a story writer,
00:30:06.87\00:30:09.27
famous
missionary, he was in Burma.
00:30:09.30\00:30:11.21
And so a lot of
people know Eric B. Hare.
00:30:11.24\00:30:13.78
And then so when we...
00:30:13.81\00:30:15.64
I think this lady
would probably be like
00:30:15.68\00:30:17.25
a second or third
cousin down from him.
00:30:17.28\00:30:20.52
Her great grandfather,
00:30:20.55\00:30:22.15
who would have
been Robert Hare's
00:30:22.18\00:30:23.69
brother ended up going
back to the Methodist Church
00:30:23.72\00:30:26.09
and didn't stay
an Adventist but,
00:30:26.12\00:30:28.16
but, uh, yeah,
00:30:28.19\00:30:29.52
it was very, very unique,
and very interesting too.
00:30:29.56\00:30:32.79
Yeah, that sounds like...
00:30:32.83\00:30:34.20
To have a connection that far
on the other side of the world
00:30:34.23\00:30:36.33
and have someone so helpful.
00:30:36.36\00:30:38.03
But even that, you know,
we've had great experiences,
00:30:38.07\00:30:40.97
always people in
different countries
00:30:41.00\00:30:42.54
have been really
willing to help us and,
00:30:42.57\00:30:44.44
you know, we went to France
and filmed some episodes there
00:30:44.47\00:30:47.11
and we had the
youth director in France,
00:30:47.18\00:30:50.15
who was really
interested in what we're doing
00:30:50.18\00:30:51.85
and helping us go places
00:30:51.88\00:30:53.21
and it's just been
everywhere we've been,
00:30:53.25\00:30:55.42
doors have just opened
and God has really let us.
00:30:55.45\00:30:57.59
Praise the Lord.
00:30:57.62\00:30:58.95
What about Muslim countries?
00:30:58.99\00:31:00.36
That's a good question.
00:31:00.39\00:31:02.99
Recently, we've been
having a lot of views,
00:31:03.02\00:31:07.73
at least on
Facebook, in Muslim countries.
00:31:07.76\00:31:10.17
So Afghanistan, Libya, Iran,
00:31:10.20\00:31:14.74
and just doesn't really
come off the top of my head.
00:31:14.77\00:31:16.91
And so I don't know,
I don't know how or why.
00:31:16.94\00:31:20.21
But there's
something happening over there.
00:31:20.28\00:31:22.28
And so it's interesting
to look at the views of,
00:31:22.31\00:31:25.18
you know, America, yeah,
00:31:25.21\00:31:26.72
Philippines, England, Australia,
00:31:26.75\00:31:28.68
but then to see these
countries pop up as well.
00:31:28.72\00:31:30.79
It shows that
there's a great hunger
00:31:30.82\00:31:32.42
in all parts of the world for...
00:31:32.45\00:31:34.19
And interestingly
enough, there's has been a guy
00:31:34.26\00:31:36.73
who runs a ministry over
in one of those countries,
00:31:36.76\00:31:38.76
I'm not sure where, but
he takes Adventist content,
00:31:38.79\00:31:42.00
and he translates it,
00:31:42.03\00:31:43.47
and then he posts on his channel
00:31:43.50\00:31:45.07
in Arabic language
00:31:45.10\00:31:46.43
and he's been taking our
videos and reposting them.
00:31:46.47\00:31:48.74
And so I'm guessing
00:31:48.77\00:31:50.11
that may have been
one of the avenues in,
00:31:50.14\00:31:51.81
but it's just showing
that, you know, these episodes
00:31:51.84\00:31:54.51
they're kind of being
picked up by different races
00:31:54.54\00:31:59.75
different religions
all around the world.
00:31:59.78\00:32:01.52
And they're kind of
taking it and translating it
00:32:01.55\00:32:04.22
and getting it into places
that we can't even imagine.
00:32:04.29\00:32:06.86
I've heard of these videos,
00:32:06.89\00:32:09.76
you know, YouTube is banned
00:32:09.79\00:32:11.13
in places like
China, for example.
00:32:11.16\00:32:12.89
But I've heard of people
who have downloaded them,
00:32:12.93\00:32:15.83
sent them on WhatsApp,
or send them through mobile,
00:32:15.86\00:32:18.27
you know,
mobile media platforms.
00:32:18.30\00:32:20.17
And, you know,
sharing these and it's funny,
00:32:20.24\00:32:22.40
it's funny when
someone sends me a video
00:32:22.44\00:32:25.61
of what I've done,
00:32:25.64\00:32:26.98
but they didn't know
that I did it, you know.
00:32:27.01\00:32:29.64
It's funny how it
just goes full circle,
00:32:29.68\00:32:31.08
but it shows that,
00:32:31.11\00:32:32.45
you know, the Lord is
opening up opportunities
00:32:32.48\00:32:34.22
for digital media to
get out into the masses.
00:32:34.25\00:32:36.99
Yeah, it's digital evangelism.
00:32:37.02\00:32:38.52
Exactly. Absolutely.
00:32:38.55\00:32:40.06
So what are some of the res...
00:32:40.09\00:32:41.62
But well, first, before we
go into some of the responses,
00:32:41.66\00:32:44.43
how many translations are there?
00:32:44.46\00:32:47.80
Up to 18.
00:32:47.83\00:32:49.73
And that's subtitles.
00:32:49.76\00:32:51.10
Up to 18 and I say up to
because not every language
00:32:51.13\00:32:53.54
has done every
episode, but up to 18.
00:32:53.57\00:32:57.01
You can find some of it,
00:32:57.04\00:32:58.84
some of the
episodes will be up to 18,
00:32:58.87\00:33:00.38
some of them
would be less, depends.
00:33:00.41\00:33:01.78
We don't translate ourselves.
00:33:01.81\00:33:03.38
So we're kind of, I
guess just a crowd source
00:33:03.45\00:33:06.92
where people
submit their translations
00:33:06.95\00:33:08.35
and that's kind
of how we go with it.
00:33:08.38\00:33:10.72
Now in terms of
dubbing, up to...
00:33:10.79\00:33:13.19
Is it three or four?
00:33:13.22\00:33:14.56
Three, I think up to three.
00:33:14.59\00:33:15.92
Okay.
00:33:15.96\00:33:17.33
One language, Polish
did the whole of Season One.
00:33:17.36\00:33:18.69
Fully dubbed in
Polish, Italian most of it
00:33:18.73\00:33:20.83
and Slovenian are one
of those languages as well.
00:33:20.90\00:33:23.97
And so there's
quite a bit on that,
00:33:24.00\00:33:25.33
that takes a little
bit more time and effort
00:33:25.37\00:33:26.70
for people to do
00:33:26.74\00:33:28.07
but there's a
fair amount out there.
00:33:28.10\00:33:29.77
We have them all on our channel,
00:33:29.80\00:33:31.14
but they have
them on their as well.
00:33:31.17\00:33:32.51
That's amazing.
00:33:32.54\00:33:33.88
And people are
voluntarily doing this.
00:33:33.91\00:33:35.24
Yeah.
00:33:35.28\00:33:36.61
As far as
there's people content,
00:33:36.64\00:33:37.98
"Hey, can we translate?"
00:33:38.01\00:33:39.35
Well, sure, you know,
00:33:39.38\00:33:40.72
just make sure you give it to us
00:33:40.75\00:33:42.08
after you're done, you know.
00:33:42.12\00:33:43.49
Yeah, now that's amazing.
00:33:43.52\00:33:44.85
What are some of the
responses that you've received,
00:33:44.89\00:33:46.22
once people watch Lineage?
00:33:46.25\00:33:47.59
Um, one of the interesting
ones we had was, like I said,
00:33:47.62\00:33:51.06
it's used in schools
and some people use it,
00:33:51.09\00:33:52.79
there was a young
school girl in Georgia, who...
00:33:52.83\00:33:57.17
We saw a little
video on Facebook
00:33:57.20\00:33:58.53
and then we contacted
her and she made a video
00:33:58.57\00:34:00.47
and kind of gave
it to us after that,
00:34:00.54\00:34:02.24
but she used, she was...
00:34:02.27\00:34:06.34
I forget her age
so it's around 10,
00:34:06.37\00:34:08.41
she's about 10.
00:34:08.44\00:34:09.78
I forget exactly how old she is.
00:34:09.81\00:34:12.45
Maybe a few years
older, I'm not sure.
00:34:12.48\00:34:15.02
But she was doing a
worship for our class
00:34:15.05\00:34:16.72
and she had to do a worship
00:34:16.79\00:34:18.39
and she was doing on
Martin William Miller,
00:34:18.42\00:34:20.86
and then she has
watched Lineage Journey at home
00:34:20.89\00:34:23.43
with her family,
they watch it regularly.
00:34:23.46\00:34:25.19
And so she used the video
00:34:25.23\00:34:26.56
as part of her doing her worship
00:34:26.59\00:34:28.53
for the school.
00:34:28.56\00:34:29.90
So that was
really encouraging to see
00:34:29.93\00:34:31.30
that someone of a young
age was taking this resource,
00:34:31.33\00:34:34.47
was speaking publicly,
was using it as part of her,
00:34:34.50\00:34:37.67
you know, her resources
that she was using to share
00:34:37.71\00:34:39.81
and that was
really interesting too,
00:34:39.84\00:34:41.58
and encouraging to
see someone sharing.
00:34:41.61\00:34:43.75
Another story that
just came to mind was,
00:34:43.78\00:34:46.28
last year I went camping.
00:34:46.31\00:34:47.92
I'm in Wales, and I met a
guy and I'm speaking to him,
00:34:47.95\00:34:53.22
and he was asking me what I do
00:34:53.25\00:34:54.59
and I was
explaining about Lineage,
00:34:54.62\00:34:55.96
he was like, "Oh, you
know, I've watched Lineage,
00:34:55.99\00:34:57.79
I've watched it a few times."
00:34:57.83\00:34:59.43
And he went on to say
that he's studying history,
00:34:59.46\00:35:02.10
I think it was
religious history.
00:35:02.13\00:35:03.77
And he said, for his exam,
00:35:03.80\00:35:06.67
he would watch
the Lineage episodes,
00:35:06.74\00:35:09.20
study the content out.
00:35:09.24\00:35:10.71
And when he actually
took his exam he would get...
00:35:10.74\00:35:14.44
The question would be asked,
00:35:14.48\00:35:16.01
and that the episode
would come to his memory
00:35:16.04\00:35:18.21
and the point of
what Adam was saying
00:35:18.25\00:35:19.58
would come to his
memory and he passed his test.
00:35:19.61\00:35:21.95
So he basically used it as
a way to study for an exam.
00:35:21.98\00:35:24.92
Wow, I needed you guys
when I was studying in school.
00:35:24.95\00:35:28.22
So we got to make sure
it's historically accurate.
00:35:28.26\00:35:31.69
That's right.
00:35:31.73\00:35:33.06
You know, these are
just some of the ways,
00:35:33.09\00:35:34.50
I mean, there's plenty
more that we could come to
00:35:34.53\00:35:36.53
but I think we'd
be here for a while.
00:35:36.56\00:35:38.70
We got a few
teachers contact us and,
00:35:38.73\00:35:40.37
you know, just
share how to use it.
00:35:40.44\00:35:41.77
We've had academy
deans, another dean,
00:35:41.80\00:35:44.61
I believe
Georgia-Cumberland Academy.
00:35:44.64\00:35:45.97
She's the dean of ladies.
00:35:46.01\00:35:47.74
She uses it in
the dorm worship so...
00:35:47.78\00:35:50.25
Actually another one
that just come to mind,
00:35:50.28\00:35:51.71
which should be
really good to share is
00:35:51.75\00:35:53.75
there was a
teacher who was teaching
00:35:53.82\00:35:55.68
at kindergarten I think it was
00:35:55.72\00:35:57.29
and they were watching
some of these Lineage episodes.
00:35:57.32\00:36:00.26
And she sent us a
video of her class,
00:36:00.29\00:36:02.99
who had taken the episode
that we did on Jerome and Huss
00:36:03.02\00:36:07.50
and they watched the episode.
00:36:07.53\00:36:08.86
And then they actually recreated
00:36:08.90\00:36:11.20
the episode using Lego.
00:36:11.23\00:36:12.87
So they've done John Huss,
00:36:12.90\00:36:14.57
you know, burning at the stake
and they've done him in prison.
00:36:14.60\00:36:17.11
And, you know, all of
these different points
00:36:17.14\00:36:18.97
that were
covered in the episode.
00:36:19.01\00:36:20.58
The kids have
actually made these,
00:36:20.61\00:36:23.18
I guess monuments or
structures using Lego.
00:36:23.21\00:36:25.65
She sent us a video of all of it
00:36:25.68\00:36:27.02
and it's pretty amazing to see
00:36:27.05\00:36:28.38
that young kids are taking this
and being able to understand it
00:36:28.42\00:36:31.05
and then, you know, obviously,
00:36:31.09\00:36:32.42
create wonderful
masterpieces out of Lego.
00:36:32.45\00:36:34.82
Yeah, that is amazing.
00:36:34.86\00:36:36.19
And I mean, they're really
taking in the history because,
00:36:36.22\00:36:38.43
you know, at that young age,
00:36:38.46\00:36:39.79
like their minds
are like sponges,
00:36:39.83\00:36:42.23
they're so impressionable,
and they just absorb everything
00:36:42.26\00:36:44.50
that they're
learning, so that's awesome.
00:36:44.53\00:36:46.23
We didn't create the videos
per se for younger children.
00:36:46.27\00:36:48.64
That wasn't our target audience.
00:36:48.67\00:36:50.01
But as we travel around,
00:36:50.04\00:36:51.37
we find a lot
of the younger kids
00:36:51.41\00:36:53.38
especially really,
really connect and enjoy it.
00:36:53.41\00:36:57.05
I guess the short time
is, you know, appeals as well.
00:36:57.08\00:37:00.32
It's not like, you know,
00:37:00.35\00:37:01.68
sit down and
watch a 60 minute video
00:37:01.72\00:37:03.05
or 20, it's just shortened.
00:37:03.08\00:37:05.39
Yeah, yeah, I'd like
to transition a little bit
00:37:05.42\00:37:08.46
into New Zealand.
00:37:08.49\00:37:09.86
Let's talk about New Zealand.
00:37:09.89\00:37:11.23
Oh, well, we kind
of mentioned earlier
00:37:11.26\00:37:12.59
that they did filming
the episode down there.
00:37:12.63\00:37:14.93
It's fascinating to see
00:37:14.96\00:37:16.70
how the church
started in New Zealand.
00:37:16.77\00:37:18.30
And as I said, as we
were filming down there,
00:37:18.33\00:37:20.74
we met a lady who was integral
to the Adventist history there
00:37:20.77\00:37:24.51
and I think it's
fascinating to see
00:37:24.54\00:37:26.68
how the church started, yeah.
00:37:26.71\00:37:28.08
We actually have a
clip from that episode.
00:37:28.11\00:37:31.25
Let's take a look at that.
00:37:31.28\00:37:32.61
Funds had been raised
by Sabbath School members
00:37:52.87\00:37:55.14
in California
00:37:55.17\00:37:56.50
to send the missionary
team down to Australia.
00:37:56.54\00:37:58.94
The intention was to
open the work in Australia,
00:37:58.97\00:38:01.81
but God had
additional plans in store.
00:38:01.84\00:38:04.95
Headed by S.N. Haskell,
00:38:04.98\00:38:06.65
the team stopped
here in New Zealand
00:38:06.72\00:38:09.02
for four to five
days on route in 1885.
00:38:09.05\00:38:13.12
Impressed by the
friendliness of the people
00:38:13.15\00:38:15.76
and noting the
libraries in town,
00:38:15.79\00:38:18.16
Haskell commented
00:38:18.19\00:38:19.53
that the people must
be interested in learning
00:38:19.56\00:38:22.20
and would therefore
00:38:22.23\00:38:23.57
make good prospects
for learning Bible truths.
00:38:23.60\00:38:26.87
After settling in Melbourne,
he decided to return to America
00:38:31.27\00:38:35.04
and stopped off in
New Zealand on the way.
00:38:35.08\00:38:37.78
He had heard of a group
of Sunday keeping Adventists
00:38:37.81\00:38:40.92
and found accommodation
with Edward and Lizzie Hare.
00:38:40.95\00:38:44.29
They introduced him
to others in the area,
00:38:44.32\00:38:46.76
and he held some meetings
over the course of a few weeks,
00:38:46.79\00:38:50.26
breaking the evangelistic rule
00:38:50.33\00:38:52.29
he presented the
Sabbath on the first night
00:38:52.33\00:38:54.63
and the second
coming on the second night.
00:38:54.66\00:38:57.17
They were
convinced and encouraged him
00:38:57.20\00:38:59.33
to visit the rest
of the Hare family
00:38:59.37\00:39:01.74
who live north in Kaeo.
00:39:01.77\00:39:03.71
Deciding not to
return to the US,
00:39:08.71\00:39:11.15
he stayed with the
Hare family in Kaeo,
00:39:11.18\00:39:13.82
about 250
kilometers north of Auckland.
00:39:13.85\00:39:17.49
This area is rich
in religious history,
00:39:17.52\00:39:20.26
with the Methodist, Anglican,
00:39:20.29\00:39:21.89
Catholic and
Seventh-day Adventist churches
00:39:21.92\00:39:24.56
having roots in the area.
00:39:24.59\00:39:26.36
Here he met the patriarch
of the family, Joseph Hare,
00:39:26.39\00:39:29.83
an Irish Orangemen
who along with his family
00:39:29.86\00:39:33.03
lived in a house on
the mound behind me.
00:39:33.07\00:39:35.77
He also met his son Robert,
00:39:35.80\00:39:37.61
and both of them were preachers.
00:39:37.64\00:39:39.71
Haskell was invited to speak
00:39:39.74\00:39:41.58
and spoke for three
consecutive Sundays,
00:39:41.61\00:39:44.25
along with evening meetings
and also holding Bible studies
00:39:44.28\00:39:48.05
during the day in the home.
00:39:48.08\00:39:50.19
The Hare family
decided to keep the Sabbath,
00:39:54.92\00:39:57.43
and this campus
behind me would end up being
00:39:57.46\00:39:59.79
one of the
first church buildings
00:39:59.83\00:40:01.53
that they met in.
00:40:01.56\00:40:02.96
Robert the son had a
difficult decision to make.
00:40:03.00\00:40:05.80
He was engaged to be married.
00:40:05.83\00:40:07.64
The house had been built,
the furniture had been ordered,
00:40:07.67\00:40:10.64
but his bride to be
objected to his new beliefs.
00:40:10.71\00:40:14.51
It was marriage or the Sabbath.
00:40:14.54\00:40:16.98
She wouldn't convert
and he wouldn't compromise.
00:40:17.05\00:40:20.22
The marriage was off,
and he left for America
00:40:20.25\00:40:23.15
to study for the
ministry at Healdsburg College.
00:40:23.18\00:40:26.02
Haskell returned in 1886
00:40:32.16\00:40:35.03
and ran a two week
evangelistic series,
00:40:35.06\00:40:37.57
and before he left,
00:40:37.60\00:40:38.93
he organized the Kaeo
Seventh-day Adventist Church,
00:40:38.97\00:40:41.80
the first in New Zealand
on the 23rd of March 1886.
00:40:41.84\00:40:47.31
Haskell sent a good
report to the General Conference
00:40:47.38\00:40:50.18
and requested an
evangelist to be sent.
00:40:50.25\00:40:53.08
The choice was 28
year old AG Daniels,
00:40:53.11\00:40:56.42
who would later go on
00:40:56.45\00:40:57.79
to be the longest serving
General Conference President.
00:40:57.82\00:41:01.06
AG Daniels brought with
him a 15 square meter marquis
00:41:01.09\00:41:05.96
that was pitched
here in this park,
00:41:05.99\00:41:08.26
along with a pedal organ
and together with his wife
00:41:08.30\00:41:11.73
lived in a tent on site.
00:41:11.77\00:41:14.24
AG Daniels would lead
00:41:21.54\00:41:22.88
the first
evangelistic tent series
00:41:22.91\00:41:25.11
in Auckland and
drew large crowds.
00:41:25.15\00:41:27.72
And at the end of
17 weeks of meetings,
00:41:27.75\00:41:30.79
a Sabbath School with
78 members was started.
00:41:30.82\00:41:34.42
Later on, a small wooden church
was built on Mackelvie Street
00:41:34.46\00:41:38.69
with 67 charter members
00:41:38.73\00:41:40.80
and the first service took place
00:41:40.83\00:41:43.06
on the 15th of October 1887.
00:41:43.10\00:41:46.63
This was the first church built
in the southern hemisphere,
00:41:46.67\00:41:50.31
and still stands today
as part of the Ponsonby
00:41:50.34\00:41:53.58
Seventh-day Adventist Church.
00:41:53.61\00:41:55.28
Robert Hare would
soon return from the USA
00:42:01.92\00:42:04.75
with his American
bride, Henrietta Johnson
00:42:04.79\00:42:07.39
and thrust himself
into the work here.
00:42:07.46\00:42:10.13
A few years later, a
conference would be formed,
00:42:10.16\00:42:12.96
and the work would
progress to the South Island
00:42:12.99\00:42:15.50
with S.N.
Haskell, amongst others,
00:42:15.53\00:42:17.73
starting the
church there as well.
00:42:17.77\00:42:20.14
A few years later,
00:42:20.17\00:42:21.50
the conference was
split into two in 1915.
00:42:21.54\00:42:24.84
A college was also
started at Long Burn
00:42:24.87\00:42:27.58
on the south part
of the North Island.
00:42:27.61\00:42:30.38
When Ellen White was
in the South Pacific,
00:42:30.45\00:42:32.48
she spent some time here
helping to establish the church
00:42:32.51\00:42:36.12
and spoke at the first
New Zealand camp meeting
00:42:36.15\00:42:39.32
and also began
writing on the life of Christ
00:42:39.35\00:42:42.49
while she was down here.
00:42:42.52\00:42:43.93
And so the stop on
the journey to Australia
00:42:50.37\00:42:53.10
turned into a lot more
than just a few days' rest.
00:42:53.13\00:42:56.54
God had bigger plans
than just rest and relaxation.
00:42:56.57\00:43:00.38
S.N. Haskell's
return journey to America
00:43:00.41\00:43:03.21
never materialized then,
00:43:03.24\00:43:05.01
and instead the
church was birthed here
00:43:05.05\00:43:07.32
in this beautiful country.
00:43:07.35\00:43:09.08
Sometimes we have big plans
that we want God to accomplish.
00:43:09.12\00:43:12.79
And whilst that's good to have,
we must always be open to God
00:43:12.82\00:43:16.86
turning things around
and remember as Isaiah says
00:43:16.93\00:43:20.20
that "His ways are
higher than our ways."
00:43:20.23\00:43:23.13
Tell you what, you
guys have been teaching me
00:43:38.01\00:43:39.68
all kinds of new things today.
00:43:39.71\00:43:42.15
Now, as I look
at that production,
00:43:42.18\00:43:44.75
and I'm looking
at the quality of it,
00:43:44.79\00:43:47.09
it seems like we've
got you two sitting here
00:43:47.16\00:43:50.76
but how many
people are on your team
00:43:50.83\00:43:52.23
'cause it seems like
00:43:52.26\00:43:53.60
there would be a lot of
people involved with this.
00:43:53.63\00:43:55.06
It's more than just us,
Clive's the main camera guy,
00:43:55.10\00:43:57.80
but we also have another two
00:43:57.83\00:44:00.87
that would work with the cameras
00:44:00.94\00:44:02.27
and the filming.
00:44:02.30\00:44:03.71
We have a
photographer, we have a...
00:44:03.74\00:44:06.61
Someone who
writes all the content
00:44:06.68\00:44:08.01
for our website, and
our blogs, and our articles.
00:44:08.04\00:44:10.35
And also does fact
checking on the scripts
00:44:10.38\00:44:12.35
that are written.
00:44:12.38\00:44:13.72
We then have my wife, his wife,
00:44:13.75\00:44:16.35
they kind of
assist in the producing.
00:44:16.38\00:44:18.22
For Season Two, my
wife did the sound,
00:44:18.25\00:44:20.86
audio sound for that,
00:44:20.89\00:44:22.22
she kind of
learned that and did that.
00:44:22.26\00:44:24.23
A website, someone
who does the website,
00:44:24.26\00:44:26.06
so there's a team of
around about 10 of us.
00:44:26.09\00:44:30.40
That if we're all
there, that would be 10.
00:44:30.47\00:44:32.13
But, you know, sometime,
it would just be me and him.
00:44:32.17\00:44:34.60
But ideally, there's
like six or seven of us
00:44:34.64\00:44:36.91
were filming on location.
00:44:36.94\00:44:38.27
So it varies
where we go, about 10.
00:44:38.31\00:44:40.41
So different people have
different skills and talents.
00:44:40.48\00:44:42.51
Some of them are
just for the visual,
00:44:42.54\00:44:43.95
and then others
are for the back end
00:44:43.98\00:44:45.51
or for the, you
know, supporting resources
00:44:45.55\00:44:48.78
that we make as well.
00:44:48.82\00:44:50.19
And what resources do you have?
00:44:50.22\00:44:52.32
At the minute
we've got the website,
00:44:52.35\00:44:53.69
which is very involved,
00:44:53.76\00:44:55.72
there's a lot of articles there,
00:44:55.76\00:44:57.13
but we're in the process
and almost ready to produce
00:44:57.16\00:44:59.73
a series of study guides
00:44:59.76\00:45:01.76
that will go
alongside all of the episodes
00:45:01.80\00:45:03.57
of Season One and Season Two.
00:45:03.60\00:45:05.77
So the idea would be that
someone could watch the video
00:45:05.80\00:45:08.27
and have a small
group Bible study
00:45:08.30\00:45:09.64
or a Sabbath school class
00:45:09.67\00:45:11.01
or a youth group or
something like that.
00:45:11.04\00:45:12.37
And then watch the video
00:45:12.41\00:45:13.78
and then you've
got a study guide
00:45:13.81\00:45:15.14
to enable you
to have discussion,
00:45:15.18\00:45:16.95
that's clearly
taking you to a point.
00:45:16.98\00:45:18.81
So you're not just
enabled you think, guys,
00:45:18.85\00:45:20.22
but these are
different questions
00:45:20.25\00:45:21.58
we've put together,
there's some Bible texts,
00:45:21.62\00:45:23.12
there's some
biblical illustrations
00:45:23.15\00:45:24.72
that match with it we think,
00:45:24.75\00:45:26.09
and would help the Bible study,
or the small group leader,
00:45:26.12\00:45:28.89
or the pastor, or
the Sabbath school leader
00:45:28.92\00:45:30.33
to be able to have a
constructive discussion.
00:45:30.36\00:45:33.60
That is nice.
00:45:33.63\00:45:34.96
So we're about to release
that for Season One and Two.
00:45:35.00\00:45:38.07
Okay.
00:45:38.10\00:45:39.43
And you guys also have t-shirts
and all that stuff too, right?
00:45:39.47\00:45:42.87
Yeah, 'cause the guy
who's our photographer
00:45:42.90\00:45:45.21
works as an illustrator.
00:45:45.24\00:45:46.57
Works for Apple
like he's an illustrator.
00:45:46.61\00:45:48.24
So he's got some really kind
of unique designs for t-shirts,
00:45:48.28\00:45:51.85
Martin Lutheran and John Knox,
00:45:51.88\00:45:55.15
William
Tyndale, and John Wesley.
00:45:55.18\00:45:57.42
We got t-shirts that
people can buy if they want to,
00:45:57.49\00:45:59.25
you know, support
Lineage or wear it that way.
00:45:59.29\00:46:03.43
Yeah.
00:46:03.46\00:46:04.79
So what can we
expect in Season Two?
00:46:04.83\00:46:07.60
Well, Season Two is out,
and that's Adventist history.
00:46:07.63\00:46:09.56
But the dream or the
plan is to have Season Three.
00:46:09.60\00:46:12.93
And so really what
we've covered so far,
00:46:12.97\00:46:14.94
you could summarize and say
00:46:14.97\00:46:16.37
it's a history of the
book Great Controversy,
00:46:16.40\00:46:21.31
because we
start with Constantine
00:46:21.34\00:46:22.68
and then we go all the way
up through Adventist history.
00:46:22.71\00:46:25.58
So it's really
covering the time period
00:46:25.61\00:46:27.02
that the book
Great Controversy covers.
00:46:27.05\00:46:28.82
Our idea now was
to go back in time,
00:46:28.85\00:46:31.55
and to go back to Genesis
or Patriarchs and Prophets,
00:46:31.59\00:46:34.26
and have smaller series.
00:46:34.29\00:46:35.62
We're looking at
maybe 10 to 15 episodes
00:46:35.66\00:46:37.33
on the book
Patriarchs and Prophets.
00:46:37.36\00:46:39.33
So covering that time
period, then Prophets and Kings,
00:46:39.36\00:46:43.77
then probably a
few more episodes on,
00:46:43.80\00:46:45.97
on Desire of Ages just
because we have more locations
00:46:46.00\00:46:48.30
that we could film it.
00:46:48.34\00:46:49.67
And then Acts of the Apostles
is the journeys of Paul.
00:46:49.70\00:46:52.11
So the idea is to...
00:46:52.14\00:46:53.78
Season Three would
probably be breaking down
00:46:53.81\00:46:55.61
into four segments.
00:46:55.64\00:46:57.15
And then together
with what we've got,
00:46:57.18\00:46:58.75
it would provide people
00:46:58.78\00:47:00.12
with a big narrative of
the Great Controversy theme
00:47:00.15\00:47:04.29
through scripture
and through history.
00:47:04.32\00:47:06.32
So that's the
plan to kind of go back
00:47:06.35\00:47:08.12
to complete the package.
00:47:08.16\00:47:10.63
So that's gonna involve
filming in some new countries
00:47:10.66\00:47:14.33
that would be Israel and Jordan,
00:47:14.36\00:47:15.93
Egypt and some
countries in the Middle East
00:47:15.96\00:47:18.50
and the Mediterranean
area in order to complete that,
00:47:18.53\00:47:21.80
to make it.
00:47:21.84\00:47:23.17
And how long is each episode?
00:47:23.20\00:47:25.01
Episodes, we typically
aim to hit about five minutes.
00:47:25.04\00:47:28.61
Oh, wow.
00:47:28.64\00:47:30.25
Five, like five minute
episode, how long, I mean like,
00:47:30.28\00:47:34.38
so when you're airing them,
00:47:34.42\00:47:36.99
let's say you
put them on YouTube.
00:47:37.02\00:47:39.02
Is it the same?
00:47:39.05\00:47:40.39
How, like how long?
00:47:40.46\00:47:41.79
Yeah, they're five
minutes there, like for example,
00:47:41.82\00:47:43.53
on 3ABN we have them on there,
00:47:43.56\00:47:44.89
but we've put like
five episodes together
00:47:44.93\00:47:47.13
to make it into a, you
know, a half an hour production.
00:47:47.20\00:47:50.47
But each episode individually
is about five minutes
00:47:50.50\00:47:52.57
or so long.
00:47:52.60\00:47:54.30
So it's bite size pieces,
00:47:54.34\00:47:56.04
bite size
content, very digestible.
00:47:56.07\00:48:00.28
I guess the catchphrase
will be a short and shareable.
00:48:00.31\00:48:02.54
Yes. Yes, for
digital evangelism.
00:48:02.58\00:48:04.68
What are some of your needs?
00:48:04.71\00:48:07.02
Well, we're hoping, I mean,
in order to film Season Three,
00:48:07.05\00:48:10.39
we have to,
00:48:10.42\00:48:12.82
I guess, raise the
funds to film Season Three,
00:48:12.85\00:48:14.49
we, you know, it's a dream,
it's a vision at the minute,
00:48:14.52\00:48:17.23
but we need to
kind of raise the funds
00:48:17.26\00:48:18.63
to go and film that
00:48:18.66\00:48:20.23
and create
these resources to be,
00:48:20.30\00:48:22.33
you know, be used by
the people out there.
00:48:22.36\00:48:24.83
So we have to raise the
logistical costs for that.
00:48:24.87\00:48:27.17
At the minute everyone
on the team is voluntary.
00:48:27.24\00:48:29.27
And we both have other jobs.
00:48:29.30\00:48:30.64
So this is kind of
something we're doing,
00:48:30.71\00:48:32.04
I guess, you say on the side
00:48:32.07\00:48:33.41
and all the other
team members there,
00:48:33.44\00:48:34.78
they're volunteering their time,
00:48:34.81\00:48:36.14
they have full time jobs
and they volunteer their time.
00:48:36.18\00:48:37.55
So at the minute is voluntary,
00:48:37.58\00:48:38.91
so we need to
kind of raise the funds
00:48:38.95\00:48:40.32
to kind of just
the logistical expenses
00:48:40.35\00:48:42.18
of filming
00:48:42.22\00:48:43.59
and getting around again
and doing stuff and, yeah.
00:48:43.62\00:48:46.89
And so let's recap
00:48:46.96\00:48:49.36
what's all
involved with the project.
00:48:49.39\00:48:52.09
So people, I mean,
00:48:52.13\00:48:53.60
you know, oftentimes
you see a finished project
00:48:53.63\00:48:56.26
but you don't know everything
that goes on behind the scenes.
00:48:56.30\00:48:59.90
So let's go over that.
00:48:59.93\00:49:02.67
I mean, in terms
of the videos, it's,
00:49:02.70\00:49:04.47
you know, the
writing of the scripts,
00:49:04.51\00:49:06.54
it's researching the locations,
00:49:06.57\00:49:08.38
it's traveling to
locations and filming,
00:49:08.41\00:49:10.55
and all of that that
involves photography,
00:49:10.58\00:49:13.18
video, drones, etc.
00:49:13.21\00:49:14.82
And then it's on the back end
00:49:14.85\00:49:16.18
when Clive has to do the editing
00:49:16.22\00:49:18.22
and putting the
post production together.
00:49:18.25\00:49:20.56
And it's the
producing of the study guide
00:49:20.59\00:49:22.32
that goes along with it.
00:49:22.36\00:49:23.96
So it becomes quite a...
00:49:24.03\00:49:25.89
And there's dream to do
a few other things as well,
00:49:25.93\00:49:27.86
like audio series,
00:49:27.90\00:49:29.36
longer
documentaries on each reformer.
00:49:29.40\00:49:32.57
There's other
things in the pipeline
00:49:32.60\00:49:33.94
that we're kind
of thinking about,
00:49:33.97\00:49:35.30
but obviously all
these things take resources.
00:49:35.34\00:49:37.87
And so we're
kind of just dreaming.
00:49:37.91\00:49:40.58
But, you know, we
dreamed for Season One,
00:49:40.61\00:49:41.94
and we dreamed for Season Two.
00:49:41.98\00:49:43.31
And we're at the stage
two and a half years later now
00:49:43.35\00:49:44.81
we're dreaming
about Season Three.
00:49:44.85\00:49:46.72
So, you know, we know
God can provide for us.
00:49:46.75\00:49:49.38
Yeah. And He continues to do so.
00:49:49.42\00:49:51.69
Do you guys have any
like movies in your future,
00:49:51.72\00:49:55.32
you thinking about?
00:49:55.36\00:49:56.73
We have one
already on Martin Luther.
00:49:56.76\00:49:58.79
It was kind of done
00:49:58.83\00:50:00.20
that we released on
the day of the reformation,
00:50:00.23\00:50:01.60
we partnered with an
ARTV Adventist Review TV.
00:50:01.63\00:50:05.03
It's called 95.
00:50:05.07\00:50:06.74
And it's kind of
just on Martin Luther.
00:50:06.77\00:50:10.11
So about 45-50 minutes
long, just on Martin Luther.
00:50:10.14\00:50:13.21
So the aim really is
to do like, longer stuff.
00:50:13.24\00:50:16.41
So like a whole one hour segment
00:50:16.44\00:50:20.65
on John Wycliffe or
John Wesley, you know,
00:50:20.72\00:50:23.05
'cause we're kind of touching
00:50:23.08\00:50:24.82
the edges of
all these reformers.
00:50:24.85\00:50:26.65
There's so much
more information,
00:50:26.69\00:50:28.02
what were they like,
00:50:28.06\00:50:29.39
you know, did they have
kids and how was it like,
00:50:29.42\00:50:31.23
standing up to
the Catholic Church
00:50:31.26\00:50:32.66
as Martin Luther
who had a family,
00:50:32.69\00:50:34.10
you know, those kind of things.
00:50:34.13\00:50:36.16
So we kind of want to
delve a little bit deeper.
00:50:36.20\00:50:38.10
Nice, nice.
00:50:38.13\00:50:39.47
So kind of really
exploring their background
00:50:39.50\00:50:42.07
and who they
were as an individual,
00:50:42.10\00:50:44.41
in addition to
what they contributed.
00:50:44.44\00:50:47.21
Nice.
00:50:47.28\00:50:49.11
So, all right, so
we've got the movie thing,
00:50:49.14\00:50:52.48
we've got bite size content,
00:50:52.51\00:50:54.32
shareable content, study guides.
00:50:54.35\00:50:57.62
I think the study
guides is an awesome idea.
00:50:57.65\00:50:59.72
Yeah, we're
looking at releasing those
00:50:59.75\00:51:01.09
in hard copy,
00:51:01.12\00:51:02.46
but also because of
the younger generation
00:51:02.49\00:51:03.83
that we're not solely
appealing to, but obviously,
00:51:03.86\00:51:06.80
is our large audience.
00:51:06.83\00:51:08.16
We're also going to release
those on Apple as iBooks.
00:51:08.20\00:51:10.57
Okay.
00:51:10.60\00:51:11.93
They're interactive,
they have illustrations,
00:51:11.97\00:51:13.34
they have interactive maps
and all that kind of stuff.
00:51:13.37\00:51:15.50
We already have a few prototypes
00:51:15.54\00:51:16.91
that we're kind of
working on behind the scenes.
00:51:16.94\00:51:18.27
Nice, nice.
00:51:18.31\00:51:19.64
Well, I can't believe
our time is almost up.
00:51:19.67\00:51:23.01
And we definitely
want people to know
00:51:23.04\00:51:25.11
how they can contact you,
00:51:25.15\00:51:27.12
how they can support
you, and all of those things.
00:51:27.15\00:51:29.58
So we're gonna go
to an address role
00:51:29.62\00:51:32.42
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