I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Removing pain
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Lord, let my words
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Heal a heart that hurts
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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Hello, friends,
welcome to 3ABN Today.
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My name is John Lomacang,
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thank you so much
for taking the time
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to tune in for
very special program.
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And today we're
gonna be addressing
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a very
challenging part of Scripture.
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The rich man and Lazarus,
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it is a parable
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that have
confused so many clergy
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and membership alike.
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I've heard so many
different interpretations.
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And we're gonna
do our part today
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in some cases not
to muddy the water,
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but to clear it up.
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And to make it very clear
about what the Bible teaches
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as to the nature of man,
what happens when he dies,
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his mortal condition and
a number of other things.
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So stay tuned
and get your Bibles
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and invite your
friends to join us.
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And if you're a pastor,
we would strongly suggest
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that you start writing notes,
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we're gonna go to a
lot of scriptures today,
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because one of the things
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that we are very
importantly concerned about
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is that the Word of
God be communicated clearly
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that we don't teach
scriptures in the Bible
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that conflict with
the weight of evidence.
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The Bible says
a number of things
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about what happens when you die.
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But when you give
pictures that conflict,
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then you create confusion
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and God is not the
author of confusion.
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Today we have...
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I have with me actually,
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my good friend, Pastor Ryan Day.
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Good to have
you, Ryan. Yes, sir.
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And I've said this before,
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Ryan is not the new kid
on the block any longer.
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He's been here for...
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How long have you been here now?
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Well, this June
will be one year,
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so about ten months.
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Glad to have you here. Amen.
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And, but I found you
to be a man of the word.
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Amen.
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An excited evangelist
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and Ryan is a part of
not only 3ABN's family,
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he's a great musician, singer,
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one who's dedicated
his life to the Lord
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and his wife is the
principal of our school.
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That's right.
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We appreciate
Stephanie, very, very much.
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Yes. Amen.
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And, but before we
go any further, Ryan,
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I think because you
opened in the Bible,
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we should have word of prayer.
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So I'd like you
to have that for us.
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Yeah, sure thing.
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Father in heaven,
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Lord, we take
this time very serious.
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We recognize that this
is not just another time
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to just talk about Your word,
even though it's so fun to do.
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Lord, we need Your
Spirit to lead and guide us
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because we recognize
that while we may think
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we know
everything on this subject,
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there's still
so much more light,
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so many more connections
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that You want us
to make and, Lord,
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we just thank You
so much for truth,
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and for the opportunity
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to be able to
preach and to teach
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and to communicate
this powerful message
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to a lost and dying world.
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So I pray, Lord,
that You will give us
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the spiritual
eyesight, the spiritual hearing,
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and of course, the
spiritual mind of Christ
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to be able to rightly
divide Your word of truth
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during this hour
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and may there be
someone who's watching
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be blessed by this
and be led to your truth,
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and most
importantly led to Jesus Christ.
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We praise You, and
we thank You as always,
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and we ask this
in Jesus' holy Name.
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Amen. Amen.
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Thank you, Ryan.
Wonderful prayer.
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And as I mentioned moment ago,
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get your Bibles
because we're gonna be talking
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about the scriptures today
and when we open the Bible,
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we want the
Word of God to speak.
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Let's go right to the heart
of the issue, Luke Chapter 16,
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and you'll find in the gospels,
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this particular story
has become the foundation
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for all kinds of...
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Ryan, I could say
misguided conclusions
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about what Jesus
actually said about death,
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what the Bible
teaches about death.
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And so here's the premise,
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either the rest of the
Bible has to endorse this,
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or this has to be the
only thing we listened to
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and ignore the
rest of the Bible.
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Right.
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Because when you go into court,
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the judge, or the jury, or
the defense and prosecution,
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they make decisions
based on the preponderance
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of the evidence,
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and so you speak
to that for a moment.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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So, you know, first of all,
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someone gave me an
illustration years ago,
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and I've never forgotten it.
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And that's the
fact that, you know,
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there are multiple
dozens of Bible texts
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that communicate the
topic of the state of the dead,
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what happens to us when we die,
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the afterlife, things like that,
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just to give an example.
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But a lot of times,
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there will be an enormous amount
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of proof and harmony
on a particular subject.
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And then every once a while,
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you might run into
one or two or three texts
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that seems to be,
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may be pointing in
a different direction.
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And we know that
God does not lie,
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God is not the
author of confusion.
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So it may seem as if
it is on the surface,
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but we know that that text,
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it does fall in harmony
with the rest of Scripture.
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I remembered the illustration
that someone showed with me,
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or showed to me, or
gave to me years ago.
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They used a fence post,
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they said, if you're
putting up fence post
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and say you have ten fence post,
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and you're putting
them in a straight line,
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but then you know,
you get down the line,
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you put your 10th
post in the ground,
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and then you look and you see
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that there are one or two
that are, you know, offline,
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do you move the two
to meet the other eight
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or do you move the
eight to meet the two?
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Obviously, it just makes sense
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that the two are out
of line with the eight.
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But that is just an illustration
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to show the
simplicity of Scripture
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that we don't
have to take something
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out of context, or
misunderstand something,
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or formulate our own doctrine,
or a new theology on something.
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God's Word is harmonious.
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And if we simply just
allow the harmony of Bible
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to speak to us
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and rightly
divide the word of truth,
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as 2 Timothy 2:15 tells
us, then we will be safe.
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So we don't...
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We're not gonna
take the one post
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that's out of line
and put all the other
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in harmony with it
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because we're
gonna take the one post
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that's out of line
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and put it in
harmony with the eight.
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Right.
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Because the preponderance
of evidence is amazing.
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Let's begin by going
right to Luke Chapter 16,
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and we're gonna walk
through the story together.
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It's an amazing story
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or as Ryan would
say an incredible story.
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An incredible story.
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You know, I just,
I've heard that phrase
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and I said, that's definitely,
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if I ever want to figure out
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whether or not Ryan is saying it
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lift up the word incredible.
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But let's look
at Luke Chapter 16,
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and we'll break
this down together,
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starts in verse 19 and
we'll go back and forth
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and, "There was
a certain rich man
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who was clothed in
purple and fine linen
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and fared sumptuously every day.
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But there was a certain beggar
named Lazarus, full of sores,
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who was laid at his gate,
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desiring to be
fed with the crumbs
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which fell from
the rich man's table.
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Moreover the dogs
came and licked his sores.
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So it was that the beggar died,
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and was carried by the
angels to Abraham's bosom.
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The rich man also
died and was buried.
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And being in torments in Hades,
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he lifted up his eyes
and saw Abraham afar off
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and Lazarus in his bosom."
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I mean, already,
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the symbolism
starts to jump out.
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Oh, absolutely. Okay, begin...
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Take the next verse.
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Sure, 24, it says,
"Then he cried and said,
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'Father Abraham,
have mercy on me,
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and send Lazarus
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that he may dip the
tip of his finger in water
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and cool my tongue,
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for I am
tormented in this flame.'
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But Abraham said,
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'Son, remember
that in your lifetime
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you received good things,
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and likewise
Lazarus evil things,
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but now he is
comforted and you are tormented.
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And besides all this,
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between us and you
there is a great gulf fixed,
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so that those who want to
pass from here to you cannot,
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nor can those from
there pass to us.'"
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And then he now
breaks it into...
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He gives the picture now
of what happens to the both.
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Here's the fate of the rich man,
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here's the fate of the beggar.
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Now, they go
back to the symbolism.
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Right.
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Verse 27, "Then he said,
'I beg you therefore, father,
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that you would send
him to my father's house,
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for I have five brothers,
that he may testify to them,
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lest they also come to
this place of torment.'
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Abraham said to him..."
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Now this is Abraham speaking,
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"They have Moses
and the prophets,
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let them hear them."
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Now would you got to
get in the story now,
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this is also suggesting
that Abraham is still alive.
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Right.
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Because Abraham
died a long time ago,
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not only is it suggesting
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that the poor man
is in Abraham's bosom,
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but now Abraham is talking,
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who had been dead by this
point for thousands of years.
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Right. He's
talking in this story.
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"They have Moses
and the prophets,
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let them hear them.
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And he said,
'No, father Abraham,
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but if one goes to
them from the dead,
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they will repent.
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But he said to him,
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'If they do not hear
Moses and the prophets,
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neither will they be persuaded
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though one rise from the dead.'"
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And the ultimate resurrection
was the resurrection of...
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Absolutely. Of Jesus.
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Jesus, absolutely.
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And they didn't believe.
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So let's go and break it down.
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Let's start with
some of the symbolism.
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Sure.
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And when you've heard
this kinda, you would knew.
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Right.
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You came out of a church
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that believe
differently on this topic.
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Oh, absolutely. So
what is your transition?
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I would just like to
address the fact that,
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you know, in the
church that I was raised in,
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and not just the
church that I was raised in,
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I was primarily raised
in the Pentecostal faith,
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but in many, many, many
other denominations today,
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many people want to apply
that this particular parable
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is not, as we
would call it, a parable,
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a figurative
story or symbolic story,
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but rather a literal story.
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And as you were reading,
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just then as we
were reading through,
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we could see
some of the symbolism
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been
communicating and pouring out.
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I just want to
highlight the fact
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that from the opening line
of this particular passage,
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we know that this has to be
some type of parable or story
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that Christ is telling
that is not entirely true
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or in the sense that
it did actually happen.
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For instance, you
noticed the first few words,
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there was a certain rich man,
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Jesus often
began, if you go back,
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just one chapter Luke
15:11, notice what He says here,
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again, the
parable of the lost son,
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He started with a certain man.
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And so we know that
this language communicates
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to us that we're
dealing with a parable,
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Christ is using a symbolic story
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of some sort, a short
story to teach a moral lesson
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and so we know that's the case.
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And in the
sense, it's an allegory.
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Absolutely.
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You find allegories, Jeremiah
talked about the allegory
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where the trees are
talking to each other.
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Right.
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And so this allegorical language
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also can be parabolic
language he's illustrating to...
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And one of the keys
is, who's he talking to
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is a big key factor.
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Oh, absolutely.
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So let's start
with, who's he talking to.
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Sure.
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And let's start with verse 19
and to give further foundation,
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verse 19, go to the
Book of Exodus Chapter 39
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and we're gonna
look at verse 22 to 24.
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We're gonna see where
this picture came from.
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There was a certain rich man
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who was clothed in
purple and fine linen,
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and fared sumptuously every day.
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Sure. Read Exodus 39:22-24.
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Sure. Exodus 39.
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By the way, this is talking
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about the
garments of the priest.
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Sure, yeah, absolutely.
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Exodus 39:22,
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"He made the robe of the ephod
of woven work, all of blue.
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And there was an opening
in the middle of the robe,
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like the opening
in a coat of mail,
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with a woven binding
all around the opening,
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so that it would not tear.
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They made on the hem of the robe
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pomegranates of blue,"
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here comes the next
color, "purple and scarlet,
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and fine woven linen."
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Okay. Okay.
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So right there is what
we're gonna take verse 22.
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Sure.
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So purple and fine woven linen,
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describing the
garment of the high priest.
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Absolutely.
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So when you see here,
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at the very
opening of the story,
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it says,
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the rich men were clothed
in purple and fine linen.
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And when you
look at the hierarchy
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of the Jewish economy,
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the high priest, I
mean, the high priest.
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Right.
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He is as high as you can
go, he's the high priest,
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and his garments
were very well tailored,
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if I could use that,
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but all the colors
had symbolism in them.
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And so right away,
Jesus is connecting.
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He's talking to the Pharisees,
He's talking to the scribes,
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He's talking to
the religious leaders,
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and right away it
should jump out at them,
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"Is he talking to us?"
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Okay.
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Absolutely. Is he
talking to us, okay.
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But there was a certain beggar
named Lazarus, full of sores,
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who was laid at His gate.
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Now this part,
this is an amazing part,
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also beggar.
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When you look at the story,
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the rich man has
something that the beggar wants.
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Right.
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And let's find out what that is.
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Verse 21
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Verse 21 says, "Desiring
to be fed with the crumbs
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which fell from
the rich man's table.
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Moreover the dogs
came and licked his sores."
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Okay, now where do
you get crumbs from often?
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Where does crumbs
come from? From food.
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Right, from food.
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Or specifically,
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Jesus is referred to
as the blank of life.
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And the bread.
The bread of life.
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Absolutely.
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They've been given the bread.
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They had the bread for...
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Oh, at this point
about 2,000 years.
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Right.
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They had the bread, they
wouldn't share the bread.
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So the beggars,
those who want to be fed.
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Right.
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And the big, the sad
reality of the gospel, Ryan,
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is when you have
the bread of life,
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and you don't share it,
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and there are
people begging for it.
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Right.
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And they'll say, if you
just give me some crumbs,
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but let's look at the symbolism.
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Go to Matthew 7:6,
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let's look at the
crumbs and the dogs.
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We're gonna
start with Matthew 7,
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and we're gonna
start with verse 6.
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We're gonna stay in Matthew 7
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because Jesus brings
this out very carefully.
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Look at verse 6 about
the dogs, start there.
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Okay, verse 6 says,
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"Do not give what
is holy to the dogs,
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nor cast your
pearls before the swine,
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lest they trample
them under their feet,
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and turn and
tear you in pieces."
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Okay, and now we're
gonna give a picture now
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of what he meant by dogs.
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Sure. Look at verse 27 and 28.
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So the Bible says in Mark 7:27,
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"But Jesus said to her,
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'Let the
children be filled first,
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for it is not good to
take the children's bread
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and throw it to
the little dogs.'"
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And verse 28.
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Verse 28, "And she
answered and said to Him,
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'Yes, Lord,
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yet even the little dogs
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under the table eat
from the children's crumbs.'"
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Here it is. Right.
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Dogs and crumbs,
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where they're saying,
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children, the
children had the bread.
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Absolutely.
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The Lord gave the
bread to His children
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but this woman is saying,
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who's begging to be
fed, she wants the gospel.
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Right.
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And I just have to add here
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also Christ is in
this particular parable
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in Luke 16,
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the audience that
He is speaking to,
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if you go back up
in the previous verses,
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in Luke Chapter
16, you'll find out
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that He's speaking
directly to the Pharisees.
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The Pharisees are kind
of his small audience here.
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And it's interesting
that He would use a story
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in this particular
story, the rich man and Lazarus,
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He would use a story that
would have often been told
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by the Pharisees to
communicate the opposite
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of what Jesus
is speaking, right?
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That's right.
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In the Pharisee's story, it
would always be the rich man
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that, of course,
was blessed by God,
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and he would end up
going to Abraham's bosom.
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And then, of course,
the beggar who was poor,
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he must have been cursed,
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he would have been
one that would end up
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in an eternal burning hell.
00:16:16.84\00:16:18.74
But it's
interesting that right here
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in this particular verse,
when you're mentioning the,
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you know, the
crumbs and, you know,
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the Lazarus was
wanting the crumbs
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and the dogs came
and licked his sores.
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And you take us
back to the story
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of this woman who came to
Jesus here in Mark Chapter 7.
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It's interesting that that woman
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was a Canaanite woman.
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That's right.
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she was not a Jew,
and so the symbolism here
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that we're already seeing
as Christ has flip-flopped
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this particular story around,
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and He's trying to
communicate the moral story
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to the Pharisees and saying,
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no, no, it's not the always
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like the way you
say it's gonna be.
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In fact, let me
tell you a story.
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You see, the Jews
often found themselves
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as a higher or
much more important
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or much more worthy
of the goodness of God
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than that of the Gentiles
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and so this
Canaanite woman, in Mark 7,
00:17:01.05\00:17:03.59
she makes that point to Christ.
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He says, yeah, but even
the dogs get the crumbs,
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the little dogs get the
crumbs that fall from the table.
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In other words,
the symbolism here
00:17:09.66\00:17:10.99
as Christ is
saying, you know what,
00:17:11.03\00:17:13.03
let me flip-flop
this around for you
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just because you may be
rich, and you may be thinking,
00:17:14.56\00:17:17.47
you think that
you're blessed of God
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doesn't necessarily mean
00:17:18.87\00:17:20.24
you're gonna end
up in Abraham's bosom.
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And, you know,
00:17:22.10\00:17:23.44
so He's
flip-flopping this around
00:17:23.51\00:17:24.84
to show that the relationship
00:17:24.87\00:17:26.21
between the
Jews and the Gentiles
00:17:26.24\00:17:27.68
exactly what He would show Peter
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in the vision, Acts 10,
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when the sheet came down,
00:17:32.11\00:17:33.55
He would reach
him and say to him,
00:17:33.62\00:17:34.95
look, you know,
these are My people, too,
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and My crumbs, My bread,
00:17:36.82\00:17:38.69
My bread of life is just as much
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for them as it is for you.
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And I'm glad you
cited Acts Chapter 10
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because in Acts Chapter
10, that's another story
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that people take and twist it.
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Make him seem like
Jesus said eat anything.
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But if you remember
when the sheet came down
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with all kinds of unclean foods,
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Peter said, I've never eaten
anything common or unclean.
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And then later on when he
went to Cornelius's house,
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he said to Cornelius,
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"God has shown me
00:18:00.31\00:18:01.64
that I should not call
any man common or unclean."
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Absolutely.
00:18:04.35\00:18:05.68
It's amazing how
stories get twisted today
00:18:05.71\00:18:07.05
and all these false
doctrines come out of it.
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We're trying to clear
up the false teachings.
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Another thing is,
00:18:10.92\00:18:12.29
the Jews never
saw any other nation
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as worthy of the gospel.
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That's why at the well,
00:18:15.36\00:18:16.73
the woman that
spoke to Jesus here
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in John Chapter 4.
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Look at another
example, John 4:9
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And all through
the life of Jesus,
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He continued to make example,
He's continued to show the Jews
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how unthankful and
grateful they were.
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This is John 4:9,
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"Then the woman of
Samaria said to Him,
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'How is it that
You, being a Jew,
00:18:36.34\00:18:38.31
ask a drink from
me, a Samaritan woman?
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For Jews have no
dealings with Samaritans.'"
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See, and then not only that,
00:18:43.49\00:18:45.19
the 10 lepers
in Luke Chapter 16,
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the 10 lepers,
none of them were Jews.
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But look what
happened to the 10th one.
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Luke 17:16,
00:18:54.93\00:18:57.93
"And fell down on
his face at His feet,
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giving Him thanks.
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And he was a
Samaritan." Right, right.
00:19:02.04\00:19:03.91
So you see, continually,
00:19:03.94\00:19:05.91
Jesus tried to break
down this wall of prejudice
00:19:05.94\00:19:09.81
that the Jews had
against other nations.
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Absolutely, and I
just want to kind of...
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I don't want to
certainly interrupt
00:19:14.25\00:19:15.58
what you're saying there.
00:19:15.62\00:19:16.99
But I want to
kind of give lead way
00:19:17.02\00:19:18.35
into the fact that the fact
00:19:18.39\00:19:19.72
that Christ is
addressing the Pharisees,
00:19:19.75\00:19:21.09
this was their mentality.
00:19:21.12\00:19:22.46
They were the leaders,
00:19:22.49\00:19:23.83
they were the
religious teachers,
00:19:23.86\00:19:25.19
they would have
been the, you know,
00:19:25.23\00:19:26.56
the theologians of the day.
00:19:26.59\00:19:27.93
And the fact that
Christ has to turn the tables
00:19:27.96\00:19:29.56
to the religious leaders,
00:19:29.60\00:19:31.70
the ones who should
know better more than anyone,
00:19:31.73\00:19:33.77
and He's having
to instruct them,
00:19:33.84\00:19:35.17
and He's having to
reprove them and correct them.
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It's fascinating
also to mention here,
00:19:37.44\00:19:39.94
the fact that He is
speaking to the Pharisees,
00:19:39.97\00:19:43.01
because Christ in teaching
this particular parable,
00:19:43.04\00:19:46.25
as we're gonna continue
through this particular parable.
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You will notice that
there's lots of symbolism
00:19:49.68\00:19:51.65
and you'll notice
that off the cuff.
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If you don't know the
rest of the story of Scripture,
00:19:53.36\00:19:56.06
then you will
quickly get an understanding
00:19:56.09\00:19:58.23
that as if Christ
believed in what He was saying,
00:19:58.26\00:20:00.93
in a sense, that
as soon as you die,
00:20:00.96\00:20:03.77
you either end up
in one of two places,
00:20:03.80\00:20:05.90
but what Christ was using
was, He was using their story,
00:20:05.93\00:20:09.34
their interpretation,
their understanding.
00:20:09.37\00:20:11.57
I was doing a little bit
of research not too long ago,
00:20:11.61\00:20:13.91
and I found this
Flavius Josephus, okay?
00:20:13.98\00:20:15.58
Okay.
00:20:15.61\00:20:16.95
Flavius Josephus
was also a Pharisee,
00:20:16.98\00:20:20.15
he was a Jewish historian
00:20:20.22\00:20:21.95
and he was born sometime
around, I think, 36, 37 AD.
00:20:21.98\00:20:26.02
So in and around the time
00:20:26.05\00:20:27.49
that Christ and the early church
00:20:27.56\00:20:29.26
had just begun.
00:20:29.29\00:20:30.76
And it's interesting to notice
00:20:30.83\00:20:32.16
that he writes in
his book War on the Jews
00:20:32.19\00:20:34.00
pertaining to the
belief in the soul, okay.
00:20:34.03\00:20:37.17
That's right.
00:20:37.20\00:20:38.53
Pertaining to the Pharisees
00:20:38.57\00:20:39.90
because he
himself was a Pharisee.
00:20:39.93\00:20:41.27
This is what he writes in
Wars of the Jews, page 11.
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Notice what he says, he says,
00:20:44.54\00:20:45.87
"They" speaking
of the Pharisees,
00:20:45.91\00:20:47.94
"say that all
souls are incorruptible,
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but that the
souls of good men only
00:20:51.51\00:20:54.22
are removed into other bodies."
00:20:54.25\00:20:56.99
And then he goes on to say,
00:20:57.02\00:20:58.35
"But that the souls of bad man,"
00:20:58.39\00:21:00.36
notice the opposition here,
00:21:00.39\00:21:03.12
notice that the souls of bad men
00:21:03.16\00:21:05.36
are subject to
eternal punishment.
00:21:05.39\00:21:07.76
But notice, he
mentions the Sadducees
00:21:07.80\00:21:09.36
but the Sadducees
take away the belief
00:21:09.40\00:21:11.90
of the immortal
duration of the soul,
00:21:11.93\00:21:13.87
and the punishment
and rewards of Hades.
00:21:13.94\00:21:15.87
So He's using this comparison
00:21:15.90\00:21:18.94
between the
Pharisees and Sadducees
00:21:18.97\00:21:20.58
that the Pharisees believed
in the immortality of the soul.
00:21:20.61\00:21:23.08
That's right.
00:21:23.11\00:21:24.45
And they believed exactly
what Christ was communicating,
00:21:24.48\00:21:25.81
hence why Christ
was using the picture,
00:21:25.85\00:21:28.62
and the wording,
and the symbolism
00:21:28.65\00:21:29.98
that He was using here to
communicate a moral point.
00:21:30.02\00:21:32.62
In fact, we're gonna get to this
00:21:32.65\00:21:33.99
probably in just a few moments,
00:21:34.06\00:21:35.39
but Christ never
told this parable
00:21:35.42\00:21:37.23
for the purpose to
communicate the truth
00:21:37.26\00:21:38.96
about hellfire and
the state of the dead.
00:21:38.99\00:21:41.10
No, He tried to...
00:21:41.13\00:21:42.46
He was undoing what
they already believe.
00:21:42.50\00:21:43.87
Exactly, and so but the
fact that He was using this...
00:21:43.90\00:21:48.77
It's powerful to note
that He was basically...
00:21:48.80\00:21:53.51
This message was flying
in the face of the Pharisees
00:21:53.58\00:21:55.51
who believed in the
immortality of the soul.
00:21:55.54\00:21:57.55
But their idea, of
course, as I said earlier,
00:21:57.58\00:21:59.85
was that if you were
rich, if you were well often,
00:21:59.88\00:22:02.18
if you were a Jew,
00:22:02.22\00:22:03.59
it's almost like you
have an automatic right
00:22:03.62\00:22:05.02
into the kingdom of God.
00:22:05.05\00:22:06.39
And Christ was
turning that around
00:22:06.42\00:22:07.76
about him saying, no, no,
no, let me clarify this for you.
00:22:07.79\00:22:10.56
And it's powerful
how He uses the imagery
00:22:10.63\00:22:13.40
and the symbolism to
communicate the opposite
00:22:13.43\00:22:16.00
of what these religious
leaders actually believed.
00:22:16.03\00:22:17.90
That's right.
00:22:17.93\00:22:19.27
And matter of
fact, they even referred,
00:22:19.30\00:22:20.64
anytime they
didn't agree with Jesus,
00:22:20.67\00:22:22.37
they called Him of another race.
00:22:22.40\00:22:24.01
Right.
00:22:24.04\00:22:25.37
You know, they said in John 8:48
00:22:25.41\00:22:26.78
when the Jews
answered and said to Christ,
00:22:26.81\00:22:28.88
"Do we not rightly say
00:22:28.91\00:22:30.25
that You are a
Samaritan and You have a demon?"
00:22:30.28\00:22:31.88
Oh, yeah.
00:22:31.91\00:22:33.25
You know, whenever they
didn't agree with Jesus,
00:22:33.28\00:22:34.62
they linked Him
into another race.
00:22:34.65\00:22:35.98
Yeah, you're not a Jew.
00:22:36.02\00:22:37.39
You're not, you can't be a
Jew because of Your behavior.
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And so, we continually see
00:22:39.22\00:22:40.56
that picture drawn in the Bible.
00:22:40.59\00:22:41.92
But there's a point
that you made a moment ago,
00:22:41.96\00:22:43.32
and I want to talk about
this just a brief second.
00:22:43.36\00:22:46.03
The reason why
this is so important
00:22:46.06\00:22:47.40
for Jesus to undo as
there was a teaching,
00:22:47.43\00:22:49.10
today, it's called Neoplatonism.
00:22:49.13\00:22:50.97
Yes.
00:22:51.00\00:22:52.33
If you look up that
Neoplatonistic ideology,
00:22:52.37\00:22:54.80
it came from Plato,
00:22:54.84\00:22:56.17
who taught that the
soul was immortal by nature.
00:22:56.20\00:22:58.91
And that's why Jesus
stayed away for four days
00:22:58.94\00:23:03.35
before He
raised literal Lazarus.
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Right, right.
00:23:05.58\00:23:06.92
He stayed away for four days
00:23:06.95\00:23:08.28
because the Jews in
this Neoplatonistic belief.
00:23:08.32\00:23:10.89
Look it up Neoplatonism.
00:23:10.92\00:23:13.56
P- L-A-T-O-N-I-S-M Neo.
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They believe that three
days the soul made an attempt
00:23:16.56\00:23:19.59
to get back into the body,
which you just pointed out.
00:23:19.63\00:23:22.13
And if it was successful,
the person came back to life,
00:23:22.16\00:23:24.60
but if they didn't succeed,
00:23:24.63\00:23:26.07
then the person
was deemed to death.
00:23:26.10\00:23:27.70
Right, right.
00:23:27.74\00:23:29.07
Jesus stayed away for four
days to confirm, to say to them,
00:23:29.10\00:23:31.87
okay, let me let you realize
00:23:31.91\00:23:34.08
that souls don't
bring bodies back to life.
00:23:34.11\00:23:36.41
I am the resurrection of life.
00:23:36.44\00:23:39.15
So you see clearly,
00:23:39.18\00:23:40.52
Jesus was having to
come to His own people,
00:23:40.55\00:23:42.85
His own children with the bread,
00:23:42.88\00:23:45.29
who wouldn't
even share the crumbs
00:23:45.32\00:23:47.36
and had to untwist so much
00:23:47.39\00:23:49.56
of what they
twisted through years.
00:23:49.59\00:23:50.93
Absolutely, absolutely.
00:23:50.96\00:23:52.29
Let's go to the
next symbolism here.
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What verse are we now?
00:23:53.73\00:23:55.06
Verse 22, I think. Yes.
00:23:55.10\00:23:56.97
Verse 22, let's go that one now.
00:23:57.00\00:23:58.33
Sure.
00:23:58.37\00:23:59.70
So verse 22 says, "So it
was that the beggar died,
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and was carried by the
angels to Abraham's bosom.
00:24:01.67\00:24:04.71
The rich man also
died and was buried.
00:24:04.74\00:24:07.28
And being in torments in
Hades, he lifted up his eyes
00:24:07.31\00:24:10.08
and saw Abraham afar off,
and Lazarus in his bosom."
00:24:10.15\00:24:13.42
Now I have to add
here just for a moment,
00:24:13.45\00:24:15.22
because many
people want to apply
00:24:15.25\00:24:17.95
or read into this
something that's not here.
00:24:17.99\00:24:20.36
Thank you.
00:24:20.39\00:24:21.72
And that is the
fact that, notice that,
00:24:21.76\00:24:23.09
Christ often in His
ministry and in His words,
00:24:23.12\00:24:25.13
if something were to happen,
immediately following an event,
00:24:25.16\00:24:27.60
He would use the
word immediately.
00:24:27.63\00:24:29.66
And you'll notice
that the word immediately
00:24:29.70\00:24:31.20
is not found here.
00:24:31.23\00:24:32.57
In other words, we
cannot apply the fact
00:24:32.60\00:24:33.94
that Christ was communicating
00:24:33.97\00:24:35.47
that these
particular individuals
00:24:35.50\00:24:36.84
went immediately
upon the point of death
00:24:36.91\00:24:39.04
to again, heaven or hell
00:24:39.07\00:24:40.78
as the symbolism
is communicating here.
00:24:40.81\00:24:43.28
But rather, He is just
simply stating the fact,
00:24:43.35\00:24:46.41
just the fate of the two,
00:24:46.45\00:24:48.18
and it's not
specified in the text,
00:24:48.22\00:24:50.22
whether or not it
happened immediately or not.
00:24:50.29\00:24:51.75
In fact, you can't
read that in here at all.
00:24:51.79\00:24:54.62
Thank you.
00:24:54.66\00:24:55.99
So that's another thing,
00:24:56.02\00:24:57.63
this immediate
departure to your destination.
00:24:57.66\00:25:00.10
Right.
00:25:00.13\00:25:01.46
And we know we'll see
about this in John Chapter 5
00:25:01.50\00:25:02.83
in just a moment here.
00:25:02.86\00:25:04.20
But I want to
point out something,
00:25:04.27\00:25:05.60
the other symbolism
jumps up in these two verses.
00:25:05.63\00:25:07.84
Right, absolutely. Watch this.
00:25:07.87\00:25:10.01
Is Abraham's bosom the cemetery?
00:25:10.04\00:25:13.61
Absolutely not.
00:25:13.68\00:25:15.01
I mean, it brings a
smile to our hearts...
00:25:15.04\00:25:16.38
It does, sure.
00:25:16.41\00:25:17.75
That they're being
buried in Abraham's bosom.
00:25:17.78\00:25:20.12
Why Abraham,
00:25:20.15\00:25:21.48
why does he
continually bring Abraham
00:25:21.52\00:25:24.29
into the picture?
00:25:24.32\00:25:25.65
Now we're gonna
address that right now.
00:25:25.69\00:25:27.59
Absolutely.
00:25:27.66\00:25:28.99
And then we're
gonna see how many times
00:25:29.02\00:25:30.36
Abraham is
talked about further on.
00:25:30.39\00:25:31.73
But let's go to Matthew 3:9,
00:25:31.76\00:25:35.23
once again, the Jews thought it
00:25:35.26\00:25:37.80
since we have
Abraham as our father
00:25:37.83\00:25:39.17
and you see in
the Old Testament,
00:25:39.20\00:25:40.57
the God of
Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
00:25:40.64\00:25:42.54
The God of
Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
00:25:42.57\00:25:44.14
Right.
00:25:44.21\00:25:45.54
And they held that as a,
you know, an armband, a pride,
00:25:45.57\00:25:47.58
almost like a
medal in the Olympics.
00:25:47.61\00:25:49.44
Sure.
00:25:49.48\00:25:50.85
But Jesus had to
break down this idea
00:25:50.88\00:25:52.21
that you are not any
different than any other nation.
00:25:52.25\00:25:55.15
Only that I chose
you like the post office
00:25:55.18\00:25:57.79
to deliver the package
00:25:57.82\00:25:59.32
but you have the same
blood, the same heart,
00:25:59.35\00:26:00.89
when you die you
have the same fate.
00:26:00.96\00:26:02.76
Look at Matthew 3:9,
00:26:02.79\00:26:05.06
and this is one of that lead
us to the attitude they have.
00:26:05.09\00:26:09.10
Sure, the Bible says,
00:26:09.13\00:26:10.47
"And do not think
to say to yourselves,
00:26:10.50\00:26:12.67
'We have Abraham as our father.'
00:26:12.70\00:26:15.47
For I say to you
00:26:15.50\00:26:16.84
that God is able
to raise up children
00:26:16.91\00:26:19.01
to Abraham from these stones."
00:26:19.04\00:26:21.51
Okay, right
away, they're boasting,
00:26:21.54\00:26:22.88
don't say that whatever you do,
00:26:22.91\00:26:24.55
don't say
Abraham is your father,
00:26:24.58\00:26:26.55
please don't go there.
00:26:26.58\00:26:27.92
Sure, sure.
00:26:27.95\00:26:29.28
And so this
ideology, once again,
00:26:29.32\00:26:30.69
the preferential ideology is,
00:26:30.72\00:26:32.65
Abraham is our Father
00:26:32.69\00:26:34.06
and then also they
talked about Jesus.
00:26:34.09\00:26:37.03
Look at John 8:57. Yes.
00:26:37.06\00:26:39.33
They said to
Jesus, 'cause Jesus came
00:26:39.36\00:26:41.13
continually trying to
reveal Himself to them,
00:26:41.16\00:26:43.77
and they couldn't get
it that He's the Messiah,
00:26:43.80\00:26:45.87
they kept going back
to their progenitors.
00:26:45.90\00:26:48.70
Right, absolutely.
00:26:48.74\00:26:50.11
Oh, I have to just say,
00:26:50.14\00:26:51.47
just let's look at
verse 56 along with this,
00:26:51.51\00:26:53.78
so Christ makes the point here,
00:26:53.81\00:26:55.14
"Your father Abraham
rejoiced to see My day,
00:26:55.18\00:26:58.85
and he saw it and was glad."
00:26:58.88\00:27:00.52
And of course,
the response in 57
00:27:00.55\00:27:02.02
and the Jews said to Him,
00:27:02.05\00:27:03.39
"You are not yet 50 years
old, and have You seen Abraham?"
00:27:03.42\00:27:06.62
And then, of course, verse 58,
00:27:06.65\00:27:07.99
"Jesus said to them,
'Most assuredly, I say to you,
00:27:08.02\00:27:10.03
before Abraham was, I AM.'"
00:27:10.06\00:27:12.03
Right, He's showing,
hey, you keep saying Abraham,
00:27:12.06\00:27:14.70
but the reality of it
is, I have preceded him,
00:27:14.73\00:27:18.03
and I'm here after him.
00:27:18.07\00:27:19.40
Right.
00:27:19.43\00:27:20.77
I'm pre and post
Abraham, only God can do that.
00:27:20.84\00:27:22.84
Absolutely.
00:27:22.87\00:27:24.21
So once again,
he's breaking down
00:27:24.24\00:27:25.57
this preferential ideology
00:27:25.61\00:27:26.98
and Galatians 3:29,
00:27:27.01\00:27:31.18
because once again,
00:27:31.21\00:27:32.61
the Jews thought
that since Abraham is,
00:27:32.65\00:27:35.18
since they're of
the seed of Abraham,
00:27:35.22\00:27:36.89
then surely we have the right,
00:27:36.92\00:27:38.25
but look at what Paul
says in Galatians 3:29.
00:27:38.29\00:27:40.99
Actually, I
think verse 28 and 29.
00:27:41.02\00:27:43.02
Sure, absolutely.
00:27:43.06\00:27:44.39
Verse 28, 29, says,
00:27:44.43\00:27:45.76
"There is neither Jew nor Greek,
00:27:45.79\00:27:47.40
there is neither slave nor free,
00:27:47.43\00:27:49.23
there is
neither male nor female,
00:27:49.26\00:27:51.27
for you are all
one in Christ Jesus.
00:27:51.30\00:27:54.50
And if you are Christ's,
then you are Abraham's seed,
00:27:54.54\00:27:57.67
and heirs
according to the promise."
00:27:57.71\00:27:59.84
Nothing could burn a
Jews collar more than that.
00:27:59.87\00:28:02.81
Paul is saying,
"If you're in Jesus,
00:28:02.84\00:28:04.98
you are heir of Abraham."
00:28:05.01\00:28:06.35
Absolutely.
00:28:06.38\00:28:07.72
You are gonna
benefit from that seed,
00:28:07.75\00:28:09.38
and nothing could
burn the Jews more.
00:28:09.42\00:28:10.99
That's why they
resisted Him so much,
00:28:11.02\00:28:13.02
like in Antioch Chapter 30,
00:28:13.05\00:28:14.99
Antioch in the
Book of Acts 13:40-46.
00:28:15.02\00:28:18.66
You read a story
00:28:18.69\00:28:20.03
when Paul and Barnabas
was in Antioch preaching,
00:28:20.10\00:28:21.70
the Jews were excited
00:28:21.73\00:28:23.06
until the Gentiles
came the next Sabbath
00:28:23.10\00:28:24.93
to hear the sermon.
00:28:24.97\00:28:26.30
And then they
began to contradict
00:28:26.33\00:28:27.67
and blaspheme them
00:28:27.70\00:28:29.04
and turn the entire town
against Paul and Barnabas.
00:28:29.07\00:28:31.04
So once again,
the symbolism here
00:28:31.07\00:28:32.44
is preferential treatment
that Jews believe they had
00:28:32.47\00:28:35.64
and the Lord is breaking it down
00:28:35.68\00:28:37.05
in this parable.
00:28:37.08\00:28:38.41
Absolutely, in
fact, the irony of this
00:28:38.45\00:28:39.78
is if you go back
to John Chapter 8,
00:28:39.81\00:28:41.55
just referencing it,
00:28:41.58\00:28:42.92
you read that
particular chapter,
00:28:42.95\00:28:44.29
Christ is actually condemning,
00:28:44.32\00:28:46.39
and He's rebuking the Pharisees
00:28:46.42\00:28:48.42
because again,
they're calling themselves
00:28:48.46\00:28:50.46
seeds and heirs of
Abraham, but Christ says, look,
00:28:50.53\00:28:52.99
you know what, you can't
really call yourself that
00:28:53.03\00:28:54.93
because you don't believe in Me,
00:28:54.96\00:28:56.30
you don't believe in My Word.
00:28:56.33\00:28:57.67
I give you My Word,
you don't trust in it.
00:28:57.70\00:28:59.03
I tell you, who I am,
you don't believe who I am,
00:28:59.07\00:29:01.84
and I think of, you know,
00:29:01.87\00:29:03.51
we're gonna get to
this in just a little bit
00:29:03.54\00:29:05.24
and apply some emphasis to this.
00:29:05.27\00:29:06.61
But the fact that, you know,
00:29:06.68\00:29:08.01
those first five
books of the Bible,
00:29:08.04\00:29:09.38
this is what they live by.
00:29:09.41\00:29:10.75
They live by that
Torah, that Pentateuch,
00:29:10.78\00:29:12.28
the first five, Genesis, Exodus,
00:29:12.31\00:29:14.22
Leviticus,
Numbers, and Deuteronomy
00:29:14.25\00:29:15.72
which again, Moses wrote,
00:29:15.75\00:29:17.52
and they were all
about the writings of Moses,
00:29:17.59\00:29:19.29
they were all about the
prophetic and the promises
00:29:19.32\00:29:22.19
that Moses had to
give of the Messiah,
00:29:22.22\00:29:24.03
but when the Messiah showed up,
00:29:24.06\00:29:25.49
Jesus says,
look, he spoke of me.
00:29:25.53\00:29:28.50
In those
writings, Moses spoke of me,
00:29:28.53\00:29:30.20
but yet you do not believe.
00:29:30.27\00:29:32.17
Read John 5:39,
00:29:32.20\00:29:33.54
that's a very
point you're making
00:29:33.57\00:29:34.90
because the Jews,
and Jesus is standing,
00:29:34.94\00:29:37.94
now how obvious can it be.
00:29:37.97\00:29:40.18
Jesus is standing
right there in the flesh
00:29:40.21\00:29:42.94
and the religious
leaders are reading,
00:29:42.98\00:29:45.61
reading the prophets,
00:29:45.65\00:29:47.52
reading the Book of Moses to,
00:29:47.55\00:29:49.62
you know, as you just
mentioned the first five books.
00:29:49.65\00:29:51.65
They're locked into
the law and the Torah.
00:29:51.69\00:29:53.69
And look what Jesus said.
00:29:53.76\00:29:55.09
Jesus says in
John 5:39, it says,
00:29:55.12\00:29:58.79
"You search the Scriptures,
00:29:58.83\00:30:00.20
for in them you think
you have eternal life,
00:30:00.23\00:30:02.23
and these are they
which testify of Me."
00:30:02.26\00:30:04.57
And notice, He didn't say,
00:30:04.60\00:30:06.17
for in them you
have eternal life,
00:30:06.20\00:30:07.64
he says, in them you
think you have eternal...
00:30:07.67\00:30:10.11
You think, He says, you think.
00:30:10.14\00:30:11.94
So we often read this chapter
to get people to rear it.
00:30:11.97\00:30:14.28
We often recite this verse
00:30:14.31\00:30:15.64
to get people to
study their Bibles.
00:30:15.68\00:30:17.35
Here's the point,
when you study your Bible,
00:30:17.38\00:30:19.11
don't think that
eternal life is in your Bible,
00:30:19.15\00:30:20.95
it's still in Jesus.
00:30:20.98\00:30:22.32
It's still in
Christ. Absolutely.
00:30:22.35\00:30:23.69
That's what I was
gonna say to them.
00:30:23.72\00:30:25.05
So let's go to the
next part of the story.
00:30:25.09\00:30:26.42
Sure.
00:30:26.45\00:30:27.79
It's an amazing
story, Jesus is having
00:30:27.82\00:30:29.16
and the hardest thing,
00:30:29.19\00:30:30.53
the hardest thing that He did,
00:30:30.56\00:30:31.89
and by the way,
you know, the Daniel 9,
00:30:31.93\00:30:34.36
there was that 70-week prophecy.
00:30:34.40\00:30:35.73
Sure.
00:30:35.76\00:30:37.10
Jesus came in the first,
00:30:37.17\00:30:38.50
the last three and a half
years to try to get to the first
00:30:38.53\00:30:40.74
go to the lost sheep
of the house of Israel.
00:30:40.77\00:30:42.87
He even told His disciples,
00:30:42.90\00:30:44.24
first go to the lost
sheep of the house of Israel
00:30:44.31\00:30:45.81
'cause they're still lost.
00:30:45.84\00:30:47.18
But they have three
and a half years left
00:30:47.21\00:30:48.94
of that last one
week, before I cut them off.
00:30:48.98\00:30:51.38
Absolutely.
00:30:51.41\00:30:52.75
So He is trying to
break through to them.
00:30:52.78\00:30:54.32
And even the last evidence
is when Stephen was stoned,
00:30:54.35\00:30:56.99
and then Paul said,
00:30:57.02\00:30:58.35
now the gospel's
gonna to the Gentiles.
00:30:58.39\00:30:59.72
Absolutely.
00:30:59.75\00:31:01.09
But you find
now, very next verse
00:31:01.12\00:31:02.46
where we are is,
00:31:02.49\00:31:03.83
and he's gonna talk
about the conditions,
00:31:03.86\00:31:05.19
the conditions that are often
00:31:05.23\00:31:06.93
the fate of those
who ignore the Lord.
00:31:07.00\00:31:08.63
And the conditions of
those who embrace the Lord.
00:31:08.66\00:31:11.23
Verse 24 and 25
00:31:11.27\00:31:12.60
Verse 24 says, he...
00:31:12.63\00:31:14.70
I just want to
pause this for a moment.
00:31:14.74\00:31:16.07
Just look at also the wording,
the previous verse, verse 23.
00:31:16.10\00:31:18.67
And being in torments in Hades,
we mentioned this earlier,
00:31:18.71\00:31:22.34
Hades obviously
comes from Greek mythology.
00:31:22.38\00:31:24.45
So you can see this
Greek Hellenistic mentality
00:31:24.48\00:31:27.42
that Christ is using to
further communicate this.
00:31:27.45\00:31:29.98
He's not saying
He believes in this,
00:31:30.02\00:31:31.35
He's not confirming
that this is His mentality
00:31:31.39\00:31:33.56
or His theology,
00:31:33.59\00:31:34.92
but yet He's using this
to communicate the story.
00:31:34.96\00:31:37.26
And then we have some
context clues for that.
00:31:37.33\00:31:38.99
Notice verse... But
he's using their language.
00:31:39.03\00:31:40.73
Absolutely.
00:31:40.80\00:31:42.13
So he's trying to
say, does it sound like
00:31:42.16\00:31:43.87
if somebody comes
from Australia and say,
00:31:43.90\00:31:46.50
The New York
Knicks, your President,
00:31:46.53\00:31:49.20
the White House, Congress,
00:31:49.24\00:31:51.04
we're saying why are
they talking that way?
00:31:51.07\00:31:52.44
They're trying to
come, you Americans
00:31:52.47\00:31:54.28
and then all of a sudden,
yeah, they're talking about us.
00:31:54.31\00:31:56.41
The Lord is using their language
00:31:56.44\00:31:57.91
to get a message to them.
00:31:57.95\00:31:59.28
Go ahead. Absolutely.
00:31:59.31\00:32:00.65
Verse 24 and onward, it
says, "Then he cried and said,
00:32:00.72\00:32:04.22
'Father
Abraham, have mercy on me
00:32:04.29\00:32:06.86
and send Lazarus
00:32:06.89\00:32:08.96
that he may dip the
tip of his finger in water
00:32:08.99\00:32:12.33
and cool my tongue,
00:32:12.36\00:32:13.90
for I am
tormented in this flame."
00:32:13.93\00:32:16.97
And I don't smirk in
fact... You can't get past that.
00:32:17.00\00:32:18.60
Yeah, I don't smirk in the
fact that he's in these flames,
00:32:18.63\00:32:22.07
just the symbolism,
00:32:22.10\00:32:23.44
the fact that
someone could believe that
00:32:23.51\00:32:24.84
this is a literal story.
00:32:24.87\00:32:26.21
If this is a literal story,
00:32:26.24\00:32:27.58
then we have to apply
every single line upon line,
00:32:27.61\00:32:29.31
precept on precept
as a literal application
00:32:29.34\00:32:32.81
and I'm just thinking,
00:32:32.85\00:32:34.22
he really goes on to
say and cool my tongue,
00:32:34.25\00:32:36.15
for I'm
tormented in this flames.
00:32:36.18\00:32:37.52
Have you?
00:32:37.59\00:32:38.92
And I use this in
my evangelistic series.
00:32:38.95\00:32:40.29
I tell people,
imagine you're standing
00:32:40.32\00:32:42.22
in flaming fires,
00:32:42.26\00:32:44.69
will you first of
all, it just amazes me
00:32:44.73\00:32:46.56
that this guy
has the intelligence
00:32:46.59\00:32:49.03
and a coherent mind to be able
to communicate these things.
00:32:49.06\00:32:50.80
Right.
00:32:50.87\00:32:52.20
Because, you know,
that this is symbolic
00:32:52.23\00:32:53.57
because you go
put yourself in flames
00:32:53.60\00:32:55.44
and try to hold
00:32:55.47\00:32:56.81
an intelligent
conversation with someone,
00:32:56.84\00:32:58.17
it's just not gonna happen.
00:32:58.21\00:32:59.54
It's just, it's
definitely not gonna happen.
00:32:59.57\00:33:00.98
But the fact that, you
know, the irony of this,
00:33:01.01\00:33:03.04
that he would say,
00:33:03.08\00:33:04.41
"All I need is a
drop to cool my tongue
00:33:04.45\00:33:06.58
and to help me
from these torments."
00:33:06.61\00:33:08.85
We know that obviously,
there's something parable.
00:33:08.88\00:33:10.99
And if you burn
your hand in the sink,
00:33:11.02\00:33:12.52
which is turning on
the hot water too quickly.
00:33:12.55\00:33:14.36
You're not gonna stand there...
00:33:14.39\00:33:15.72
But you please
just dip a little,
00:33:15.76\00:33:17.13
you'd be screaming.
00:33:17.16\00:33:18.49
It's just not a coherent moment.
00:33:18.53\00:33:19.86
Absolutely. Verse 25.
00:33:19.89\00:33:21.23
Verse 25 continues.
00:33:21.26\00:33:22.60
Look at the connection
once again, back to the Jews.
00:33:22.63\00:33:24.33
Back to Abraham
"But Abraham said,
00:33:24.37\00:33:26.60
'Son, remember
that in your lifetime
00:33:26.63\00:33:29.00
you received your good things,
00:33:29.04\00:33:30.44
and likewise
Lazarus evil things,
00:33:30.51\00:33:33.31
but now he is comforted
and you are tormented."
00:33:33.38\00:33:37.65
Showing how the story flips.
00:33:37.68\00:33:39.05
You thought you had
the right but He's the one.
00:33:39.08\00:33:41.78
And that's why Jesus
said when the Pharisees saw,
00:33:41.82\00:33:43.59
I'm sitting with the publicans,
00:33:43.62\00:33:44.95
the harlots, the tax collectors.
00:33:44.99\00:33:46.32
Jesus said,
00:33:46.35\00:33:47.69
they'll make the
kingdom before you,
00:33:47.72\00:33:49.06
because they will
continually seen as unworthy.
00:33:49.09\00:33:51.59
But they accepted Jesus,
00:33:51.63\00:33:53.19
they were in the
company of Jesus.
00:33:53.23\00:33:54.86
And then Jesus said to them,
00:33:54.90\00:33:56.33
if you were
sick, I could help you.
00:33:56.36\00:33:58.20
But since you
don't need a physician,
00:33:58.23\00:34:00.24
I can't do anything for you.
00:34:00.27\00:34:01.60
Absolutely.
00:34:01.64\00:34:02.97
They wouldn't admit
their sinful condition.
00:34:03.00\00:34:04.34
It's fair to state
that Christ was a rebel.
00:34:04.37\00:34:06.88
He was not a rebel
to the kingdom of God
00:34:06.91\00:34:09.24
and God's agenda.
00:34:09.28\00:34:10.65
He was a rebel to
this manmade false system
00:34:10.68\00:34:13.85
that had been established
and continued forward,
00:34:13.92\00:34:17.12
influenced by the
Hellenistic in Greek
00:34:17.19\00:34:19.09
and Roman mythologies
and philosophies of the day.
00:34:19.12\00:34:23.32
So Christ is now coming in
00:34:23.36\00:34:25.33
as a rebel against their agenda,
00:34:25.36\00:34:27.23
and He's saying, look,
let me clear this like,
00:34:27.30\00:34:28.93
let me clear the air, let
me set the record straight.
00:34:28.96\00:34:31.47
This is not how you think it is.
00:34:31.50\00:34:34.04
It's actually this way.
00:34:34.07\00:34:35.40
And so that's
what we're seeing here.
00:34:35.44\00:34:36.77
This is just
one example of that.
00:34:36.81\00:34:38.24
And I'm gonna continue verse 26.
00:34:38.27\00:34:39.94
Before we read verse 26,
00:34:39.97\00:34:41.91
you'll begin to see right away
00:34:41.94\00:34:43.45
when in death, in the judgment,
00:34:43.48\00:34:46.65
there will be no connection
between the two sides.
00:34:46.72\00:34:48.45
Right, absolutely.
00:34:48.48\00:34:49.82
There will be no connection,
00:34:49.85\00:34:51.19
nobody is gonna be leaving there
00:34:51.22\00:34:52.55
and coming over here
and nobody leaving...
00:34:52.59\00:34:53.96
There'll be no
connection in the judgment.
00:34:53.99\00:34:56.49
When the 1,000 years is done
00:34:56.52\00:34:58.66
and just before
the lake of fire,
00:34:58.69\00:35:00.03
which is
described in this story,
00:35:00.10\00:35:01.50
there'll be no
communication on both sides.
00:35:01.53\00:35:03.23
And it says that in verse 26,
00:35:03.26\00:35:05.00
"And besides all this,
00:35:05.03\00:35:06.37
between us and you
there is a great gulf fixed,
00:35:06.40\00:35:09.94
so that those who want to
pass from here to you cannot,
00:35:10.01\00:35:14.58
nor can those
from here pass to us."
00:35:14.61\00:35:17.85
In other words, we
can't even connect.
00:35:17.88\00:35:19.85
And then the righteous,
the Bible says in Hebrews,
00:35:19.88\00:35:21.92
it's appointed
unto men once to die,
00:35:21.95\00:35:24.09
and after that the
judgment, so there is no...
00:35:24.12\00:35:26.52
And you'll see clearly,
00:35:26.55\00:35:27.89
we're gonna wrap
this in Scripture
00:35:27.92\00:35:29.26
right after
these next few verses.
00:35:29.29\00:35:31.36
Then he said,
another symbolistic language,
00:35:31.39\00:35:33.80
once again,
going back to Abraham.
00:35:33.83\00:35:36.30
Then he said, I beg
you, therefore Father
00:35:36.33\00:35:38.70
that you would send
him to my father's house,
00:35:38.73\00:35:41.80
for I have how many brothers?
00:35:41.84\00:35:43.74
Five brothers.
00:35:43.81\00:35:45.64
List those books
again, Genesis, Exodus...
00:35:45.67\00:35:47.28
Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus,
Numbers, and Deuteronomy.
00:35:47.31\00:35:50.05
The five books
00:35:50.08\00:35:51.41
that the Jews put
their heaviest weight on.
00:35:51.45\00:35:52.78
That's right.
00:35:52.81\00:35:54.15
The Torah, the
Pentateuch, the five books.
00:35:54.22\00:35:56.18
They put all their,
00:35:56.22\00:35:57.59
that's what John
5:39 was all about,
00:35:57.62\00:35:59.29
you're searching these
books looking for eternal life.
00:35:59.32\00:36:02.12
So now they're
saying, we have five brothers.
00:36:02.16\00:36:04.13
And notice what it says,
that they may testify to them.
00:36:04.16\00:36:07.73
That's why the Lord says,
00:36:07.76\00:36:09.10
these are they
which testify of me.
00:36:09.13\00:36:11.17
Those books testified of Jesus,
00:36:11.20\00:36:12.77
but you're ignoring
him, He's right here.
00:36:12.80\00:36:14.60
He said, well, send
somebody that they may testify,
00:36:14.64\00:36:17.97
that they may
give a clearer message.
00:36:18.01\00:36:19.81
And then He says,
00:36:19.84\00:36:21.18
lest they also come
to this place of torment.
00:36:21.21\00:36:23.65
Right.
00:36:23.68\00:36:25.01
And once again, this
conversation with a man
00:36:25.05\00:36:26.58
that's dead, Abraham.
00:36:26.61\00:36:28.45
Abraham said to him,
they have Moses and the what?
00:36:28.48\00:36:31.89
Prophets.
00:36:31.92\00:36:33.25
Look at Luke 24:27.
00:36:33.29\00:36:35.66
Now once again, he's clearly,
this is the clear delineation,
00:36:35.69\00:36:40.00
a clear description of
who He's talking about.
00:36:40.03\00:36:41.60
Yes.
00:36:41.63\00:36:42.96
They have Moses
and the prophets, who?
00:36:43.00\00:36:45.67
The Amalekites, the Hittites,
the Jebusites, the Amorites,
00:36:45.70\00:36:48.34
the Perizzites, the Hivites,
00:36:48.37\00:36:50.11
none of them had
Moses and the prophets.
00:36:50.14\00:36:52.04
The Israelites had Moses
and the prophets, Luke 24:27?
00:36:52.07\00:36:56.44
Luke 24:27 says,
00:36:56.48\00:36:58.75
"And beginning at
Moses and all the prophets,
00:36:58.78\00:37:00.72
He expounded to them
in all the Scriptures
00:37:00.75\00:37:03.18
the things concerning Himself."
00:37:03.22\00:37:04.75
That's right. It's powerful.
00:37:04.79\00:37:06.12
And this is the story
in the Road to Emmaus.
00:37:06.15\00:37:07.49
That's right.
00:37:07.56\00:37:08.89
He's
communicating to a disciple,
00:37:08.92\00:37:10.26
beginning at
Moses and the prophets.
00:37:10.29\00:37:11.63
And then you'll find later on,
00:37:11.66\00:37:13.16
this Moses and the prophets
seems to be their foundation
00:37:13.19\00:37:16.77
on which they
based their eternal hope.
00:37:16.80\00:37:18.13
That's right.
00:37:18.17\00:37:19.50
He says, you can have
all the books in the world.
00:37:19.53\00:37:21.17
Let me just put
a pin right here.
00:37:21.20\00:37:23.81
Don't find...
00:37:23.84\00:37:25.17
Don't think your
foundation is in learning.
00:37:25.21\00:37:28.08
Learning is important.
00:37:28.11\00:37:29.44
Teach them to observe
all things I command you.
00:37:29.48\00:37:31.68
But our foundation of
salvation is in Jesus.
00:37:31.71\00:37:33.92
Sure.
00:37:33.95\00:37:35.28
That's what the Lord
is trying to communicate.
00:37:35.32\00:37:36.69
You're stuck in this
ecclesiastical mindset
00:37:36.72\00:37:39.89
that you could
teach yourself in.
00:37:39.92\00:37:41.42
That's why they
called the disciples ignorant
00:37:41.46\00:37:43.19
and unlearned.
00:37:43.22\00:37:44.56
But what was the
key, they were with Jesus.
00:37:44.59\00:37:46.53
Absolutely, and I just want
to add to that the fact that,
00:37:46.56\00:37:48.96
you know, we know
that, as you said earlier,
00:37:49.00\00:37:51.13
very clearly, and I agree 100%,
00:37:51.17\00:37:53.10
that the Word of
God in and of itself
00:37:53.13\00:37:55.20
does not have that power
other than Christ Himself.
00:37:55.24\00:37:58.31
He's the one that has the power.
00:37:58.34\00:37:59.87
But Christ did say,
speaking of Himself,
00:37:59.91\00:38:01.91
He said, "I am the way
the truth and the life."
00:38:01.94\00:38:04.48
And, of course,
00:38:04.51\00:38:05.85
when He was
praying in John 17:17
00:38:05.88\00:38:09.98
when He was praying in
the Garden of Gethsemane
00:38:10.02\00:38:11.89
before being arrested
and taken on to put to trial.
00:38:11.92\00:38:14.69
He says, Thy word.
00:38:14.72\00:38:16.46
He says, sanctify
them by Thy truth,
00:38:16.49\00:38:18.26
Thy Word is truth.
00:38:18.29\00:38:20.43
So the Word of God
holds the power in as much
00:38:20.50\00:38:22.93
that it points us to the Savior.
00:38:22.96\00:38:25.63
And that's exactly
what was happening here,
00:38:25.67\00:38:27.70
this particular
man, though he was rich,
00:38:27.74\00:38:30.01
and though he was abundant
in all of the delicacies
00:38:30.04\00:38:32.37
and the wonderful
things in the world,
00:38:32.41\00:38:34.34
he had rejected the truth,
00:38:34.38\00:38:36.08
he had rejected the Word of God.
00:38:36.11\00:38:38.08
But Lazarus, though he was poor,
00:38:38.11\00:38:40.12
and he was a beggar, he did not,
00:38:40.15\00:38:41.95
he had a pure heart,
and God found him worthy.
00:38:41.98\00:38:44.32
The Pharisees in the
same way, they were rich.
00:38:44.35\00:38:47.46
Of course, we
read, of course, earlier,
00:38:47.49\00:38:49.19
the fine linens and
the things that they wore,
00:38:49.22\00:38:50.99
but they rejected the truth
when it was brought to them.
00:38:51.03\00:38:53.53
And I just want
to pull out here,
00:38:53.60\00:38:55.20
you had just read verses 27
00:38:55.23\00:38:57.73
and through 29,
00:38:57.77\00:38:59.97
where he says there
at the end of verse 29,
00:39:00.04\00:39:02.54
they have Moses
and the prophets,
00:39:02.57\00:39:04.21
let them hear them,
00:39:04.24\00:39:05.91
you know, to me
right there the response
00:39:05.94\00:39:07.94
and I'm gonna speak again,
00:39:07.98\00:39:09.31
my good friend
Dennis Priebe, he would say,
00:39:09.34\00:39:11.08
the only two words
in the human language
00:39:11.11\00:39:12.91
we should learn is, "Yes, Lord."
00:39:12.95\00:39:14.85
Exactly.
00:39:14.88\00:39:16.22
His response should have been,
Ah, I got it, okay, yes, Lord,
00:39:16.25\00:39:19.59
you know, and that's it.
00:39:19.62\00:39:20.96
But what was his response?
00:39:20.99\00:39:22.32
Notice verse 30 here.
That's right. Read the two.
00:39:22.36\00:39:24.03
And he said, no, I
just want to pause there,
00:39:24.06\00:39:27.23
even though he continues
to say, Father, Abraham,
00:39:27.30\00:39:29.10
and he continues the
sentence his response to, again,
00:39:29.13\00:39:32.73
what appears to be this
divine figure symbolically,
00:39:32.77\00:39:36.04
no, that's not
good enough for me.
00:39:36.07\00:39:39.21
And I just want to, you
know, testify to the point
00:39:39.24\00:39:42.14
that this particular parable,
00:39:42.18\00:39:45.01
and many other
truths in the Bible,
00:39:45.05\00:39:47.15
God's Word is so
clear. God's Word is so plain.
00:39:47.22\00:39:49.42
God is not the
author of confusion,
00:39:49.45\00:39:51.29
He does not want to confuse
us, His word is harmonious.
00:39:51.32\00:39:54.16
He's not gonna say
one thing over here,
00:39:54.19\00:39:55.66
and then turn around
00:39:55.69\00:39:57.03
and say another thing over here,
00:39:57.06\00:39:58.39
but yet many
people in that fence
00:39:58.43\00:39:59.76
post that I described earlier,
00:39:59.79\00:40:01.13
they would rather
go and manipulate,
00:40:01.16\00:40:03.47
and twist, and skew,
00:40:03.50\00:40:04.83
and pervert the two
that seems to be off
00:40:04.87\00:40:07.24
and fit their own and
create their own theology,
00:40:07.27\00:40:10.01
rather than going with the eight
00:40:10.04\00:40:11.87
that's in
harmony with each other.
00:40:11.91\00:40:14.28
And they create
their own theology,
00:40:14.31\00:40:16.04
and I cannot count
and my heartbreaks,
00:40:16.08\00:40:17.91
cannot count the times I have,
00:40:17.95\00:40:19.35
I've witnessed to people
00:40:19.38\00:40:21.15
and they would
have some type of skewed
00:40:21.18\00:40:23.99
or twisted
misunderstanding of Scripture.
00:40:24.02\00:40:25.65
And I would go to them and say,
00:40:25.69\00:40:27.06
you know hey, look,
the Bible says this,
00:40:27.09\00:40:28.56
you know, notice how clear
and harmonious the scriptures
00:40:28.59\00:40:30.93
and the response is,
"No, I don't believe that"
00:40:30.96\00:40:33.43
or no, they reject the truth.
00:40:33.50\00:40:35.20
And so very
similarly, in the experience
00:40:35.23\00:40:37.30
of what this rich man
is going through here,
00:40:37.37\00:40:39.20
he rejected the word
that he wanted a dead man.
00:40:39.23\00:40:42.67
That's why in verse 30...
00:40:42.70\00:40:44.31
But before you go to the verse,
notice what he asked instead,
00:40:44.34\00:40:47.81
he's asking for
a miracle instead.
00:40:47.84\00:40:51.11
And so many people today
00:40:51.15\00:40:52.55
would rather a
miracle than the Word of God.
00:40:52.58\00:40:56.02
That's right.
00:40:56.05\00:40:57.39
That's why the Bible says,
00:40:57.42\00:40:58.75
Many false christs and
false prophets will rise
00:40:58.79\00:41:00.26
and will deceive many,
00:41:00.29\00:41:01.62
they'll show great
signs and wonders."
00:41:01.66\00:41:03.19
Matthew 24.
00:41:03.22\00:41:04.56
"They'll show signs
and wonders to deceive."
00:41:04.59\00:41:06.29
Right.
00:41:06.33\00:41:07.66
So don't look for
miracles over God's Word.
00:41:07.70\00:41:09.33
If God's Word
says it, thank you.
00:41:09.36\00:41:11.37
If God's word says it,
00:41:11.40\00:41:12.73
don't say, hey,
well, do a miracle,
00:41:12.77\00:41:14.97
then I believe it.
00:41:15.00\00:41:16.34
And that's the problem
with Christianity today.
00:41:16.37\00:41:17.94
They prefer
miracles, give me two pills,
00:41:17.97\00:41:20.18
and call me in the morning.
00:41:20.21\00:41:21.54
Take two and
call me in the morning
00:41:21.58\00:41:22.91
rather than let
God's word speak.
00:41:22.94\00:41:24.31
And by the way, Paul
says in 1 Thessalonians 2:13,
00:41:24.35\00:41:28.98
"The Word of God
effectively works
00:41:29.02\00:41:31.02
in those who believe."
00:41:31.05\00:41:32.95
So if the Word of God is in you,
00:41:32.99\00:41:34.56
and you believe it, if
you let the Word of God in,
00:41:34.59\00:41:36.39
it'll work in you.
00:41:36.42\00:41:37.76
Amen. But you gotta believe it.
00:41:37.79\00:41:39.13
Don't put miracles
above the Word of God.
00:41:39.16\00:41:40.90
And verse 31,
let's transition...
00:41:40.93\00:41:42.26
Yeah, let's
continue on to verse 30 here,
00:41:42.30\00:41:44.37
he says, "And he said to
him, 'No, Father Abraham,
00:41:44.40\00:41:47.64
but if one goes to
them from the dead,"
00:41:47.67\00:41:50.61
and I want you to
notice the wording here, okay,
00:41:50.64\00:41:52.74
"if one goes to
them from the dead,
00:41:52.77\00:41:55.98
they will repent."
00:41:56.01\00:41:57.45
But then notice verse 31,
00:41:57.48\00:41:59.08
but he said to
him speaking of...
00:41:59.11\00:42:01.45
This is Abraham's response.
00:42:01.48\00:42:03.39
But he said to him,
00:42:03.42\00:42:04.75
"If they do not hear
Moses and the prophets,"
00:42:04.79\00:42:06.52
in other words, if
they will not accept
00:42:06.55\00:42:07.99
the plain truth of
God's Word as it is.
00:42:08.02\00:42:09.46
That's right.
00:42:09.49\00:42:10.93
Neither will they be
persuaded though one,
00:42:10.96\00:42:13.70
notice the word
here, rise from the dead,
00:42:13.73\00:42:16.23
there's a different...
00:42:16.26\00:42:17.60
Christ is actually
communicating in this parable,
00:42:17.63\00:42:20.04
the differentiation
between the belief
00:42:20.07\00:42:22.17
that the Pharisees had
and the belief that He had.
00:42:22.20\00:42:24.64
In other words,
the Pharisees believed
00:42:24.67\00:42:26.07
in the immortality of the soul.
00:42:26.11\00:42:27.48
And the fact that
00:42:27.51\00:42:28.84
the dead people
could come from the dead
00:42:28.88\00:42:30.78
as a dead person,
00:42:30.85\00:42:32.21
as a spirit, as a ghost
00:42:32.25\00:42:34.02
and speak and
communicate to the people,
00:42:34.05\00:42:35.82
but notice the opposition
that Christ communicates here
00:42:35.85\00:42:39.69
that the truth is, He said,
00:42:39.72\00:42:41.26
neither what they believe
will be persuaded though one,
00:42:41.29\00:42:44.03
here's the word,
rise from the dead.
00:42:44.06\00:42:45.86
Christ believed in the
resurrection of the dead
00:42:45.89\00:42:49.10
rather than someone
coming as or from the dead.
00:42:49.13\00:42:51.73
Exactly, those go to
them from the dead, see.
00:42:51.77\00:42:54.27
Right.
00:42:54.30\00:42:55.64
You're dead,
you're not going anywhere,
00:42:55.67\00:42:57.01
so on this particular note,
00:42:57.04\00:42:58.37
you clearly see they
believe in one thing,
00:42:58.41\00:42:59.74
that's why reiterate right here.
00:42:59.77\00:43:01.34
That's why Jesus
stayed away for four days
00:43:01.38\00:43:04.08
because they were
waiting for someone
00:43:04.15\00:43:05.48
to come from the dead.
00:43:05.51\00:43:06.95
And then that's also the belief
00:43:07.02\00:43:08.58
that's why they
guarded the tomb.
00:43:08.62\00:43:10.69
When Jesus died,
00:43:10.72\00:43:12.05
they didn't want Him
to come from the dead.
00:43:12.09\00:43:13.86
But He didn't
come from the dead,
00:43:13.89\00:43:15.89
He is the
resurrection and the life,
00:43:15.92\00:43:17.83
there's a
difference all together.
00:43:17.86\00:43:19.19
People when...
00:43:19.23\00:43:20.60
So let's hit, we have
about 10 minutes left.
00:43:20.63\00:43:21.96
Sure, sure.
00:43:22.00\00:43:23.33
Let's go ahead and hit
this right on the head.
00:43:23.37\00:43:24.70
Let's start with
some sound Bible verses.
00:43:24.73\00:43:27.54
Let's first start
with John 5:28 and 29.
00:43:27.57\00:43:30.64
What does the Bible say
about what happens when you die?
00:43:30.71\00:43:32.67
And this is important.
00:43:32.71\00:43:34.08
Once again, we're
gonna wrap this parable.
00:43:34.11\00:43:35.74
This was a parable
that Jesus was communicating
00:43:35.78\00:43:39.35
to the leaders of
the Jewish nation,
00:43:39.38\00:43:41.45
the scribes the
Pharisees, the Sadducees,
00:43:41.48\00:43:44.22
because of the
distorted belief they had,
00:43:44.29\00:43:45.89
He was saying, brethren,
00:43:45.92\00:43:47.26
don't think yourself
better than other people.
00:43:47.29\00:43:49.16
Because those that you ignore
00:43:49.19\00:43:50.63
will make the kingdom before you
00:43:50.66\00:43:52.23
and all the advantages you
had, all the word I gave you,
00:43:52.26\00:43:55.03
all the years
that I've taught you,
00:43:55.06\00:43:56.56
all the clothing you wear
00:43:56.60\00:43:58.23
will not give you
preferential treatment
00:43:58.27\00:43:59.97
over those that you ignore.
00:44:00.04\00:44:01.37
That's right.
00:44:01.40\00:44:02.74
Take care of the needs,
00:44:02.77\00:44:04.11
the Samaritans that they ignored
00:44:04.14\00:44:05.47
were licking the
sores of the beggar.
00:44:05.51\00:44:07.68
He said, those people
that you think are outcast,
00:44:07.71\00:44:09.81
they're taking care
of the community's needs.
00:44:09.84\00:44:11.28
Absolutely.
00:44:11.31\00:44:12.65
They are feeding the
hungry, and clothing the naked,
00:44:12.68\00:44:14.05
and taking stuff to the poor.
00:44:14.12\00:44:15.55
You're not doing anything
00:44:15.58\00:44:16.92
and you think you're
gonna make the kingdom.
00:44:16.99\00:44:18.32
That's why Matthew 25 says,
00:44:18.35\00:44:19.92
when you do it to
the least of these,
00:44:19.95\00:44:21.32
you've done for
Me, that's the measure
00:44:21.36\00:44:23.22
and not
necessarily what you have.
00:44:23.26\00:44:24.59
Absolutely.
00:44:24.63\00:44:25.96
John 5:28 and 29,
00:44:25.99\00:44:28.53
Jesus says, "Do
not marvel at this,
00:44:28.56\00:44:30.30
for the hour is coming
00:44:30.37\00:44:31.70
in which all who
are in the graves
00:44:31.73\00:44:33.64
will hear His voice."
00:44:33.67\00:44:35.54
And come forth that rise factor
00:44:35.57\00:44:37.94
that Christ is
talking about in the parable,
00:44:37.97\00:44:39.84
though, notice this,
00:44:39.87\00:44:41.21
"Those who have done good
to the resurrection of life,
00:44:41.24\00:44:43.85
and those who have done evil
00:44:43.88\00:44:45.38
to the
resurrection of condemnation."
00:44:45.41\00:44:47.55
That's right. And
the other thing that...
00:44:47.62\00:44:49.12
So you see the
two resurrections,
00:44:49.15\00:44:51.12
the resurrection of life,
00:44:51.15\00:44:52.49
the
resurrection of condemnation.
00:44:52.52\00:44:54.36
So those are the resurrections
that are coming in the future.
00:44:54.39\00:44:57.16
This is not something
that happens when you die.
00:44:57.23\00:44:58.83
Absolutely. Look
at another thing.
00:44:58.86\00:45:00.23
And by the way, the symbolism
and the story was about fire.
00:45:00.30\00:45:03.06
Let's see what the
Bible says about fire.
00:45:03.10\00:45:04.47
What happens to the
wicked when they die,
00:45:04.50\00:45:06.37
and when will there be fire?
00:45:06.40\00:45:07.74
Sure.
00:45:07.77\00:45:09.10
When will those who are
gonna be destroyed in the fire?
00:45:09.14\00:45:11.54
When is it gonna happen?
00:45:11.57\00:45:12.91
Look at Matthew 13:40-42.
00:45:12.94\00:45:15.21
Yes, I was hoping
you were gonna go there.
00:45:15.24\00:45:17.55
This is the parable of
the wheat and the tares.
00:45:17.58\00:45:19.58
That's right.
00:45:19.61\00:45:20.95
And what verse
did you say again?
00:45:20.98\00:45:22.32
Verse 40-42.
00:45:22.35\00:45:23.69
So 40-42, this is speaking
00:45:23.72\00:45:25.05
of the explanation of the tares.
00:45:25.09\00:45:26.42
That's right.
00:45:26.45\00:45:27.79
And Christ says
beginning in verse 40,
00:45:27.82\00:45:29.16
"Therefore, as the
tares are gathered,
00:45:29.19\00:45:30.56
and burned in the fire,
00:45:30.63\00:45:31.96
so it will be at
the," notice, "end of this."
00:45:31.99\00:45:34.90
And the New King
James Version says,
00:45:34.93\00:45:36.26
end of this age,
00:45:36.30\00:45:37.63
only the King James
Version uses the same thing
00:45:37.67\00:45:39.20
at the end of this world.
00:45:39.23\00:45:40.87
That's right.
00:45:40.94\00:45:42.27
And so when is
the end of this world,
00:45:42.30\00:45:43.64
that would be the question.
00:45:43.67\00:45:45.01
But he goes on
to say in verse 41.
00:45:45.04\00:45:46.37
"The Son of Man
will send out His angels,
00:45:46.41\00:45:47.74
and they will gather
out all of His kingdom
00:45:47.78\00:45:50.35
and all that offended,
00:45:50.38\00:45:51.71
and those who
practice lawlessness,
00:45:51.75\00:45:53.52
and will cast them
into the furnace of fire.
00:45:53.55\00:45:56.69
There will be wailing
and gnashing of teeth."
00:45:56.72\00:45:58.25
And there was wailing
00:45:58.29\00:45:59.62
and gnashing of teeth of the man
00:45:59.65\00:46:00.99
who was in
torment in the parable.
00:46:01.02\00:46:02.96
And so when would this happen?
00:46:02.99\00:46:04.33
Christ doesn't say it once.
00:46:04.36\00:46:05.69
He says it again,
also, in verse 49,
00:46:05.73\00:46:07.96
notice what Jesus
says again in verse 49,
00:46:08.00\00:46:10.10
"So it will be at
the end of the world."
00:46:10.17\00:46:13.10
So when will the
wicked be the judged?
00:46:13.13\00:46:16.07
When will the
righteous be brought forth
00:46:16.10\00:46:18.01
from the graves?
00:46:18.04\00:46:19.37
It's at the end of this world
at the second coming of Jesus.
00:46:19.41\00:46:21.44
That's right.
00:46:21.48\00:46:22.84
And they're not gonna be
in there saying, I'm thirsty,
00:46:22.88\00:46:25.68
could you give me some water?
00:46:25.71\00:46:27.05
It's really hot over here.
00:46:27.12\00:46:28.45
That's not gonna be the case,
00:46:28.48\00:46:29.82
because they will
not exist continually.
00:46:29.85\00:46:31.65
And also, there's something else
00:46:31.69\00:46:33.02
that people insert in this.
00:46:33.05\00:46:34.39
Years ago, I got a pamphlet,
00:46:34.42\00:46:35.76
I still have this
book from a pastor,
00:46:35.79\00:46:37.13
I won't say the denomination.
00:46:37.16\00:46:38.49
But he said, well,
he start to presuppose
00:46:38.53\00:46:40.70
and this is called eisegesis,
adding what's not there.
00:46:40.73\00:46:43.80
Exegesis is
expounding on what is there.
00:46:43.87\00:46:46.13
Eisegesis is
adding what's not there.
00:46:46.17\00:46:48.04
He said, "Well, this
story was about the souls
00:46:48.07\00:46:52.64
of each of those."
00:46:52.67\00:46:54.01
Not once did you find the
word soul in the story at all.
00:46:54.08\00:46:55.98
That's right, absolutely.
00:46:56.01\00:46:57.35
Because how can
a soul be tormented
00:46:57.38\00:46:59.81
when it has no dimensions.
00:46:59.85\00:47:01.18
Absolutely.
00:47:01.22\00:47:02.55
This is bodily torment
of the man as we speak,
00:47:02.58\00:47:03.92
this is bodily discomfort
00:47:03.99\00:47:05.32
that's talked
about in the story.
00:47:05.35\00:47:06.69
So let's see what
happens? What actually happens?
00:47:06.72\00:47:08.26
Malachi Chapter 4. Yes.
00:47:08.29\00:47:10.23
This is the
most rapid fire story
00:47:10.26\00:47:11.79
you've ever had
in the short program.
00:47:11.83\00:47:13.19
Absolutely.
00:47:13.23\00:47:14.56
Malachi 4:1 and 3,
00:47:14.60\00:47:16.40
look what the Bible says
about the fate of the wicked.
00:47:16.43\00:47:18.57
"For behold, the day is coming"
00:47:18.60\00:47:19.93
Malachi 4:1,
"burning like an oven,
00:47:19.97\00:47:22.87
and all the proud, yes,
00:47:22.90\00:47:25.01
all who do
wickedly will be stubble.
00:47:25.04\00:47:28.31
And the day which is coming,"
not at the end of the death,
00:47:28.34\00:47:31.68
"shall burn them
up, says the Lord
00:47:31.71\00:47:33.95
that will leave them
neither root nor branch,"
00:47:34.02\00:47:35.72
in verse 3.
00:47:35.75\00:47:37.09
What about the wicked? Yes.
00:47:37.12\00:47:38.89
"You shall trample the wicked,
00:47:38.92\00:47:40.49
for they shall be ashes
under the soles of your feet
00:47:40.56\00:47:42.99
on the day that I do this,
00:47:43.02\00:47:44.53
says the Lord of hosts."
00:47:44.56\00:47:45.89
And, Ryan, I want
you to go to Psalm 37.
00:47:45.93\00:47:48.70
Go to Psalm 37
00:47:48.73\00:47:50.07
Psalm 37. Verse 18-20.
00:47:50.10\00:47:51.43
Because here's
another thing showing you
00:47:51.47\00:47:53.17
that the wicked are not
gonna be hanging around.
00:47:53.20\00:47:54.97
They're not
gonna be hanging around
00:47:55.00\00:47:56.34
throughout eternity.
00:47:56.37\00:47:57.71
There's not gonna be
some eternally burning hell,
00:47:57.74\00:47:59.47
because the Bible
made it very clear.
00:47:59.51\00:48:01.08
They're gonna be ashes
under the soles of our feet.
00:48:01.11\00:48:03.45
They're gonna be burned up
00:48:03.48\00:48:04.81
but look what
David the Psalmist says,
00:48:04.85\00:48:06.58
Psalm 37:18-20. Sure.
00:48:06.61\00:48:08.95
So 18-20 says, "The Lord
knows the days of the upright:
00:48:08.98\00:48:12.05
and their
inheritance shall be forever."
00:48:12.09\00:48:14.59
The upright
forever. Right, right.
00:48:14.62\00:48:16.73
Okay, verse 19,
00:48:16.76\00:48:18.23
"They shall not be
ashamed in the evil time,
00:48:18.26\00:48:21.30
and in the days of
famine they shall be satisfied."
00:48:21.33\00:48:24.57
And then notice verse 20,
00:48:24.60\00:48:26.30
the wicked says,
"But the wicked shall,"
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notice the word perish...
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That's right.
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"And the enemies of the Lord,
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like the splendor of
the meadows, shall vanish.
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into smoke they
shall vanish away."
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That's right.
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So this end result of
the wicked is into smoke.
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Right. Malachi says ashes.
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Look at verse
10, read Psalm 37:10.
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"For yet a little while
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and the wicked shall be no more,
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indeed, you will look
carefully for his place,
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but it shall be no more."
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In fact, I'm
thinking of another text also
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exactly what they just said
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that the wicked
shall be no more.
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I'm thinking of
Obadiah 1:15-16, it says,
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"For the day of the Lord
is near upon all the heathen
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and they shall be as
though they had not been."
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That's right. And so...
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To perish, what does that mean?
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I was also
thinking of John 3:16.
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The most beautiful passage.
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Let's read it together.
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"For God so loved the world
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that He gave His
only begotten Son,
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that whoever believeth
in Him should not perish
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but have everlasting life."
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So the wicked don't
have everlasting life.
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So the wicked,
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if you don't
have everlasting life,
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you can't be
burning everlasting.
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Absolutely
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There's no everlasting burning
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to those who don't
have everlasting life.
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The righteous
receive everlasting life.
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What do the wicked?
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They perish. Sure.
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Into smoke shall
they vanish away,
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they shall perish,
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they shall be as
though they will be no more.
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Psalm 37:10 and so another one,
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Revelation 21:8.
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I'll hit this very quickly.
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"But the cowardly,
unbelievable, abominable,
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murderers, sexually
immoral, sorcerers, idolaters,
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and all liars shall
have their part in the lake
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which burns with
fire and brimstone,
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which is the second death."
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Right, absolutely.
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That's that eternal death.
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And in very simple
passage, Romans 6:23, for the...
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Wages of sin is death.
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But...
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But the gift of God
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is eternal life in
Christ Jesus, our Lord.
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Okay, there are
the two comparisons,
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the wages of sin is death.
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Right.
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The gift of God is eternal life.
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Amen.
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The wicked don't
receive eternal life,
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they receive death.
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And what's
death... The second death.
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The second death
is being banished,
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being destroyed
in the lake of fire.
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And you look for them
and they'll be no more.
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That's why Jesus
said in the parable...
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Matter of fact,
in the Beatitudes,
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the meek shall
inherit the earth.
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Right, absolutely.
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You know, we have a
couple of minutes here.
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I know we're getting
close to the end of this time.
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But I just got to say this,
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in pertaining to
this particular topic.
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This is one of those topics
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that many people
really struggle with,
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because of what has been
programmed into their mind
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over the years.
00:51:03.86\00:51:05.19
They feel like
there's a sense of vengeance,
00:51:05.23\00:51:06.80
there's a sense of justice,
00:51:06.83\00:51:08.50
in knowing that
again, God, not the devil,
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but God is now
in charge of hell,
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as the Bible does say,
God, not the devil is in charge,
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but God is in
charge, but that God would,
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you know, pour
out all of His wrath
00:51:17.67\00:51:19.34
for all eternity
upon these people.
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And I find that
to be inconsistent
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with the fact that 1
John 4:8 says, God is love.
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Thank you. And He is so loving.
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I'll tell you
this, this is the truth.
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You know, we've
already established
00:51:32.72\00:51:34.06
that the wicked
will not burn forever
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in the verses that we just read.
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But really quickly, you
know, 1 Peter, excuse me,
00:51:38.09\00:51:40.70
2 Peter 2:9 tells us this,
00:51:40.73\00:51:43.16
"The Lord knows how
to deliver the godly
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out of temptations."
00:51:45.03\00:51:46.74
"And to," notice,
"reserve the unjust unto the,"
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notice this,
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"the day of
judgment to be punished."
00:51:52.31\00:51:54.94
That's right.
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There's a single
day at the end of time.
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That's right.
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And I just want to bring
out the fact that God is love.
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He will bring in into sin,
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but He takes it and He
does it in a single day,
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not for all eternity.
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And lastly and not leastly,
00:52:07.66\00:52:10.03
Satan himself will be devoured,
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Ezekiel 28:18 and 19.
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"The Lord will devour
him by bringing a fire forth
00:52:14.30\00:52:17.70
from the midst of
him, and he shall be,"
00:52:17.73\00:52:20.04
the Bible says in Ezekiel 28:19,
00:52:20.07\00:52:23.41
"And shall be no more forever."
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Amen.
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If the devil is not
gonna exist anymore,
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why would those
who were wicked exist
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in eternal flames?
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Friends, we try
to make it clear.
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We're gonna take a short break
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and we'll be back
after this news break
00:52:35.38\00:52:37.89
for a few closing thoughts,
00:52:37.92\00:52:40.16
so don't go away.
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