I want to spend my life
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mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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removing pain
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Lord, let my words
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heal a heart that hurts
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I want to spend my life
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mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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mending broken people
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- Hello and welcome
to 3ABN Today! I am so
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excited about our
program today. Sorry that my
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husband's not here
with me. You know I'm always
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happier when he's
here with me, but he sends
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his regards to you,
and I am thrilled to
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be here with our guests.
First of all... First of all,
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Rico Hill is a very
dear friend. He's no
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stranger to 3ABN and
definitely no stranger
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to Dare to Dream,
and he is my brother in
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the Lord. So, Rico
Hill is here from the
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Beehive International
Ministries. Yay! - So
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happy to be here,
sister, with you again.
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- Oh, it's so
great. - The excitement can
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be felt as palpable.
- I know it! I know it!
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And my viewers are
going to be so excited
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when they hear what
you're doing. It's always
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exciting to know what
God is doing. - And He's
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moving. - And He's
moving! Introduce the
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rest of your team.
- Well, with me today
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is Jonathan Euler, our
director, of international
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development for the
Beehive, and a gentleman
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we've been
working with over the last
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couple of years,
Leslie Williams, who was a
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representative for
the trust, and we'll
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talk about that
partnership. - Absolutely!
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It's going to be
great. You're not gonna want
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to miss any of
this. But let's have some
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music first, and
then we'll come back and
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talk to our
guests. Our musical guest
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today is Sam Ocampo, and
he's going to play "My Tribute."
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- How beautiful.
Thank you, Sam, for that. To
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God be the glory for
the things He has done.
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And He's done such
great things! Think
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about the great
things God has done in your
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life. Think about
what He's always doing in
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your life, and then be
thankful and be grateful
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to Him for all that
He's done. We're grateful
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for what God is doing
with the Beehive! First
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of all, the Beehive.
Why the Beehive? What
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is the Beehive? What
is that name? - Although,
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we are making honey
now, so we can say that.
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Jonathan will
share about that when we
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get to it. The
Beehive actually comes from...
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We saw this back in
2009. We saw a statement
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in the Spirit of
Prophecy where, in
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the book, Welfare
Ministry, it talked about how
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Ellen White had had
a dream. And in this
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dream, she saw two
beehives. Long story
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short, it turned out
it was not real beehives;
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it was actually two
churches that were in
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the Bay Area who were
busy, seeking to finish
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the work-one in San
Francisco, one in Oakland.
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They had,
primarily, work that was
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health-related...but
it was more than that
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in that it was
integrated evangelism, it was
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meeting people right
where they were-literally-
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as they had shops and
restaurants and meeting
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rooms and reading
rooms and all these kinds of
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things that were reaching
the people in an organic
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way. I'm going to
emphasize that. That
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really captured our
attention, and we saw,
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"Wow, this is how
God wants to finish the
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work," where we saw
that there was a bevy
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of activity-a beehive
of activity-in the Bay
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Area. So, we said,
"We want to set up the
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Beehive all around
the world in every city."
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It was
ambitious... [laughter]...to say
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the least. But nonetheless,
God has really blessed.
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Oh, if men would praise
the Lord for His goodness
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and for His wonderful
works in the children of
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men. So, we do praise
the Lord for what He's
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done. - Amen. And how
long ago did the Beehive
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start? - We started
in 2009, officially. We
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became a non-profit
organization in 2010,
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and that was the exact
same year that we actually
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started in- well, it
was in Haiti after that huge
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earthquake. It
took off there, took off
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here in the States; I
began to do health talks
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and health seminars,
and that led to working
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with 3ABN, the TV show
From Sickness to Health...
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- I was just going to
say, "Do you recognize
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Rico?" From
Sickness to Health, which is-
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if you haven't seen
that, you definitely need
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to watch it. It's
actually on Dare to Dream as
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well as the parent network,
3ABN. So, you definitely
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need to watch that.
It is so innovative; it's
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so different.
It's refreshing! You're
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giving a lot of
great information, but in a
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format that reaches
the people! So, it's
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really great. -
Wherever I go, people stop and
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they say, "Oh,
you're the guy- where's the
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blue guy?" They
always wanna know where the
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blue guy is. - Right,
right, right; that's true.
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So, from- this whole
thing in 2009 with the
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earthquake and all,
that's where the Beehive
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actually just got started.
- Well, it was... We had
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started on the campus
of Arizona State University
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here in the States.
So, it was almost like this
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simultaneous kind of
thing that took place
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in 2010, actually.
What we wanted to do is,
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we wanted to really
be data-driven. And what
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I mean by that is,
oftentimes, throughout
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the world, people
are- you know, before they
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launch a product, they
launch a business, they
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want to know what
people- what's the trends?
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What's happening out
there? How do you take
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the pulse of what
people are looking for? And I
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think, sometimes, we
don't do enough of that
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in ministry,
whereas we are selling the
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greatest product
the world has ever seen.
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That's the gospel-the
everlasting gospel. So
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therefore, we wanted
to see what would happen
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if we tried to do
city mission in a country.
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Jonathan's going to
talk about what happened
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in Haiti, but we
started on the campus of Arizona
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State University
and wanted to see what
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would take place if we
actually used health to
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reach people on a
public university campus. So,
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it started simultaneously,
and we just did research
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and development for a
few years to see, "What are
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the needs, and how
do we meet people where
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they are?" And,
really, it just gave us so much
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information, and
that led us to actually,
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really, building up
the Beehive, but also
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figuring out a cycle
of evangelism that we call
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CHAT. I am so excited
to tell you about that
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and share that. So,
training people to finish
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the work. - Yes!
Yes, yes, yes-which is so
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important! And it's
so important, again,
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to find out, to get
the pulse of the people to
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find out what
their needs are and then
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how to design whatever
it is that you're going
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to design to meet
that need. - Amen. - And
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that's what you guys
are doing. - Amen. - So,
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the Beehive is not
really just a health
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initiative; it's more
than that. - No. It is a
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solution-driven initiative.
In other words, whatever
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the problem is-
because you'll find that when
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you go to certain
places in the world, you know,
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their issue is
not- everyone needs good
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health, but not
everybody knows that they need
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health in terms of,
like, diet and lifestyle.
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- Right. -
Sometimes, people just need a
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job! - Mhm. - That
will make them healthier.
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- And relieve the
stress, right? - Exactly. And
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so, we found that,
within the Adventist
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church, we have everything
that the world needs to
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solve their
problems. We have everything
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they need. If you have
financial problems, well,
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guess what? We have
a system. If you have
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health problems, we
got a system. If you
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got social
problems, we got a system! If
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you got family
problems... - We got a system.
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- Children,
child guidance-come on!
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[laughter] - That's
right. - We have something
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for every need. And
what we need to start
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to do is utilize,
you know, what we have,
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form partnerships,
and begin to really
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finish the work. To
really get back to it,
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here it is,
Christ's Method Alone. Now,
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I know people say
that, they toss it around,
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but we really
believe it. We've taken it to
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heart, He mingled with
people as one who desired their
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good, He met their needs...
How do you meet someone's
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needs if you don't
mingle with them? If you don't
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spend time with them?
You can't just come in
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and pose. "Oh, well,
this is what you need!
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You need the
gospel!" Yeah, everybody needs
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that, but they
don't know they need the
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gospel! "Right now,
I'm just going through
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a terrible divorce." "I
can't feed my children."
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"I don't have a
job." So, how do we begin
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to CHAT with them? And
CHAT stands for community,
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health, advocate,
training. - Ahh! - How do you
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advocate on behalf
of a community that will
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make them healthier
financially, physically,
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mentally, spiritually?
Amen? - That is beautiful.
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Meeting them at their
point of need (just like
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Jesus did), finding
out what they need (because
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you have to be in
relationship first),
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and then meeting
those needs. And that's what
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you're doing that's
amazing. And so, what
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is your role, Jonathan,
in all of this? What is
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your role with the
Beehive? - My role is
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in the country of Haiti,
so I'm there all the time;
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been almost 8
years now. Just after the
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earthquake of 2010,
which was a devastating
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natural disaster. 350
thousand people killed
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in just a few seconds.
Schools collapsed with the
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children inside,
churches destroyed, hospitals
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destroyed, just devastation.
Scott Therman, one of
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the co-founders of
the Beehive, and I went
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to Haiti shortly
after that disaster, and the
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UN is driving
around in tanks, and people
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are camped out in
tents, and just very difficult
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in so many ways. We
were lost immediately
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in all the
confusion, and someone came and
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knocked on our door as
we're sitting in the car.
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We can't communicate,
totally lost, praying for
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guidance... Somebody
knocks on the door and
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says, "Can I help
you guys? You look lost."
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And he says, "Are
you Adventist?" And we're
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like, what!? "Yes,
we're Adventist." And
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he's like, "Did you
know that there's an
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Adventist hospital
down the street?" We were
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parked like, right
next to the sign like, right
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down the street from
the Adventist hospital. He
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takes us to the Adventist
hospital, we walk in, and
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it is my friend from
high school that I hadn't
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seen for 10 years
that is the administrator
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of the hospital - Are
you kidding? - And we've
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been staying at
hotels, we have like, so many
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problems. We can't
communicate, we don't
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have any connections,
and he's like, "Oh, you
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can stay here where
you have translators
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and food and water and
internet," and all these
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things. So, we
stayed there, and we started
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in the hallway
with all the emergency
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responders. People
coming in with problems and
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going out on tarps
and just very, very, very
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high, tense
situation. And eventually, we
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got ours established
and we saw that there
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was a need to help
Loma Linda. Loma Linda was
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coming there, and they
were trying to get their
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building ready for
a class that they were
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going to teach, and
another miracle that
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we got connected
with them. They needed
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people that could
be boots on the ground
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and get their
building renovated, and we
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needed to make
friends and work. We'd been
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in hotels and in the
hallway for some time.
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- When he says "hallway,"
he means sleeping in the
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hallway. - Literally.
Literally in the hallway.
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- We lived in a
hallway for 6 months. - In the
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hospital in the
hallway. - Let's go back for a
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minute, because what
you said... You gave me
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a lot of meat
here. What you said was,
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you're sitting in
your car, lost, and someone
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comes up to you to the
car and gives you directions
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to the Adventist
hospital which you were right
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near! - Yeah, we had
no idea it was there.
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- I mean, just- how
do people not believe in
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God? That is just NOT
a series of coincidences.
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It's just not-that
somebody would come
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up to you and say,
"You guys look lost," and
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you're right near the
Adventist hospital, and
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the person that's
the administrator is your
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friend from elementary
school or high school.
00:16:47.64\00:16:49.97
I mean, it's all God-ordained.
So, you ended up being
00:16:50.01\00:16:56.71
in Haiti after the
devastation and living
00:16:56.81\00:17:00.55
in- sleeping in
hallways. - Yep. - Why were you
00:17:00.58\00:17:04.99
there? What were you
there to do? - Our goal
00:17:05.05\00:17:07.62
is to start a city
mission and country mission
00:17:07.69\00:17:10.16
outpost/inpost center
of influence and try to
00:17:10.26\00:17:14.83
have a vocational
training, agriculture
00:17:14.86\00:17:17.60
training, a
location that people can get
00:17:17.67\00:17:19.93
trained with CHAT
in the States and then
00:17:20.04\00:17:23.17
come to Haiti and practice
their training and reach
00:17:23.24\00:17:25.61
the people the best
we can. - Aw, that's
00:17:25.67\00:17:27.71
beautiful. What is the
situation now in Haiti?
00:17:27.78\00:17:32.11
We know what it
was, and I've read that
00:17:32.18\00:17:36.48
there's been such
misappropriation of funds
00:17:36.52\00:17:39.52
that funds that were
supposed to be used to
00:17:39.62\00:17:43.09
help the people there
have been diverted into
00:17:43.16\00:17:46.46
other things and not
used for the people there.
00:17:46.53\00:17:51.20
Are they still struggling?
Is there still tremendous
00:17:51.27\00:17:53.40
need there? What is
the status? - It is so
00:17:53.50\00:17:55.60
difficult. There are
so many problems in so
00:17:55.67\00:17:57.91
many areas; everyone
is struggling. The people
00:17:57.97\00:18:00.44
that are coming to
help are struggling, the
00:18:00.51\00:18:01.84
people that are
living there are struggling,
00:18:01.88\00:18:03.21
government's
struggling... One way that we've
00:18:03.24\00:18:04.91
found to help was,
after the earthquake, there
00:18:04.98\00:18:07.08
was a lot of
children that were orphaned.
00:18:07.15\00:18:08.48
So, we found that the
struggle was very real
00:18:08.58\00:18:10.95
for these children.
They're in broken-down
00:18:11.02\00:18:13.59
homes, they're with no
plumbing, no electricity,
00:18:13.62\00:18:15.12
no beds, no food, so
we got into these places
00:18:15.19\00:18:18.29
and renovated 12 different
locations and helped 500
00:18:18.33\00:18:21.83
kids go to school, have
beds, have clothes, have
00:18:21.90\00:18:24.77
food; they started
little gardens, they
00:18:24.83\00:18:26.77
started little businesses;
we built second stories
00:18:26.84\00:18:29.04
and expanded their
structures and repaired
00:18:29.14\00:18:31.51
their structures. And
so, we got into helping
00:18:31.57\00:18:34.61
right away there with
that area of devastation.
00:18:34.68\00:18:37.68
- Can I jump in? This
is what we call CHATing.
00:18:37.78\00:18:40.92
- Ahh. - Helping
people to understand that-
00:18:40.95\00:18:44.45
the way that we see
this is, everything begins
00:18:44.52\00:18:47.46
with a conversation.
That conversation, a
00:18:47.56\00:18:49.42
knock on the door,
right? The language
00:18:49.56\00:18:52.16
barrier was there, but
God was doing something.
00:18:52.23\00:18:54.63
It began as a
conversation; they chatted, but
00:18:54.73\00:18:57.47
what did it lead to?
It led to sustainable,
00:18:57.53\00:19:01.00
meaningful,
impactful ministry. And I find
00:19:01.10\00:19:05.24
that, a lot of
times, our people, they want
00:19:05.34\00:19:08.44
to get into the work,
but we just don't know
00:19:08.51\00:19:10.51
how to CHAT. We
don't know how to actually
00:19:10.58\00:19:13.31
communicate and come
down to what people's
00:19:13.35\00:19:15.02
level- it's in the book
Medical Ministry, page 238,
00:19:15.08\00:19:19.75
where it says that
meeting people right
00:19:19.82\00:19:22.66
where they are is the
gospel ministry. Jesus
00:19:22.72\00:19:27.03
came from heaven, but
He became a man. - Right.
00:19:27.13\00:19:30.57
- He spoke our
language. He met us right where
00:19:30.67\00:19:33.74
we are. So, what we
have to begin to realize-
00:19:33.77\00:19:36.50
and this is what
CHATing is all about-is it's not
00:19:36.57\00:19:39.41
coming to people with
our lofty and high ideals
00:19:39.47\00:19:43.04
about what they need,
but instead meeting them
00:19:43.11\00:19:46.01
on the level where
they are. And this is a-
00:19:46.08\00:19:48.28
- Get to know
them. - Get to know them!
00:19:48.35\00:19:49.98
Jonathan, he's not
saying at all- he's a
00:19:50.09\00:19:52.99
humble brother. I
respect that and I appreciate
00:19:53.05\00:19:54.82
that, but this
brother LIVES in a war zone.
00:19:54.89\00:19:57.83
He's in a war zone
and actually making a
00:19:57.89\00:20:01.23
difference in
people's lives. Walk through
00:20:01.30\00:20:03.33
some of the things,
because it started in
00:20:03.43\00:20:05.60
the hallway of a
hospital. But really-
00:20:05.67\00:20:08.00
walk them through
how this has grown into a
00:20:08.04\00:20:11.34
city mission right
in Port-au-Prince, and
00:20:11.41\00:20:15.48
then also a
country outpost in Bohoc.
00:20:15.54\00:20:19.01
- So, yeah. We
started in the hallway. We
00:20:19.11\00:20:20.48
eventually got a
patient room, then we eventually
00:20:20.58\00:20:23.08
got a little
volunteer area and we started
00:20:23.15\00:20:26.65
making stuff out of
shipping pallets, making
00:20:26.72\00:20:29.16
little raised beds.
We saw trashed shipping
00:20:29.22\00:20:31.23
pallets, and we saw
that there was a need
00:20:31.29\00:20:33.40
for gardening and food,
and we know the agricultures
00:20:33.46\00:20:35.66
of the ABCs of
education, so we start making
00:20:35.73\00:20:39.23
these little raised
beds behind the hospital out
00:20:39.27\00:20:41.10
of shipping pallets
and start growing food
00:20:41.17\00:20:43.27
there behind the
hospital and sharing food with
00:20:43.34\00:20:44.97
everybody. It's a
great way to make friends.
00:20:45.04\00:20:46.81
Everybody likes free
veggies. - Yeah, what
00:20:46.91\00:20:50.58
a great idea! - And
so that led to us needing
00:20:50.68\00:20:52.21
to expand. We kind of
outgrew our stay there
00:20:52.28\00:20:55.38
and we got a
place down the street. I
00:20:55.48\00:20:59.29
think we have a picture
of Rico and I in the city
00:20:59.35\00:21:02.76
mission that we've now
turned into a city mission.
00:21:02.82\00:21:07.23
It is an inpost
there for the city, and we
00:21:07.30\00:21:10.73
make a bunch of
stuff now out of shipping
00:21:10.83\00:21:12.37
pallets, taking
garbage and teaching young
00:21:12.47\00:21:14.84
people and people
with our jobs how to make
00:21:14.94\00:21:17.27
these amazing things
out of shipping pallets.
00:21:17.31\00:21:20.28
So, everything there
in the picture is all
00:21:20.38\00:21:22.24
out of shipping pallets.
00:21:22.28\00:21:24.58
different items
all made from recycled
00:21:24.65\00:21:27.08
wood all by people
who are not really skilled
00:21:27.18\00:21:29.98
or educated in
that area. 25-30 people
00:21:30.05\00:21:33.42
employed just at that
one location. That, then,
00:21:33.52\00:21:36.09
is helping all
their families. So, if you
00:21:36.19\00:21:38.63
have 25 or 30
people that have a job all
00:21:38.66\00:21:41.10
the time, they're
going to support the kids and
00:21:41.16\00:21:43.10
the cousin and the
mother and the father.
00:21:43.16\00:21:45.63
So, it averages,
maybe, 5 people supported by
00:21:45.73\00:21:48.20
one person having a
job. So, that's CHATing
00:21:48.24\00:21:51.01
and helping and ministering
to 150 people just with
00:21:51.07\00:21:54.64
the woodshop
there. Then we're learning
00:21:54.74\00:21:56.21
our own skills, we're
building our own things,
00:21:56.28\00:21:58.01
and we help a lot
of other ministries by
00:21:58.11\00:22:00.98
building their stuff. -
That is huge. - And then
00:22:01.02\00:22:03.22
after that starts
going, God led us to some
00:22:03.28\00:22:07.39
property 3 hours north
of Port-au-Prince where
00:22:07.46\00:22:10.33
we now have a 50-acre
piece of land that we're
00:22:10.36\00:22:13.60
building buildings
and starting classes and
00:22:13.70\00:22:16.83
raising animals
and have 23 different
00:22:16.93\00:22:20.00
types of fruit trees,
and people are all coming
00:22:20.10\00:22:22.17
to visit. Probably
have a picture of a group
00:22:22.24\00:22:24.34
that came there to
visit. Loma Linda has
00:22:24.44\00:22:26.54
been a very supportive
and very great partnership
00:22:26.64\00:22:29.34
that they have come
6 years in a row, and
00:22:29.44\00:22:33.58
there they are at
the outdoor kitchen there
00:22:33.62\00:22:35.95
at the country
mission, having a great trip.
00:22:36.02\00:22:39.55
- And these are Loma
Linda students? - Yes.
00:22:39.65\00:22:41.79
They're physical
therapy students. They have a
00:22:41.86\00:22:44.96
program at the Adventist
hospital in the Adventist
00:22:45.03\00:22:47.93
university there in
the city where they're
00:22:47.96\00:22:49.86
teaching rehab
tech- training rehab tech
00:22:50.00\00:22:53.20
people. - That's
incredible. Leslie,
00:22:53.27\00:22:56.00
I know you've been
sitting here patiently.
00:22:56.07\00:22:58.34
We're going to come
back, 'cause we have
00:22:58.41\00:22:59.74
some more pictures
that you're going to
00:22:59.77\00:23:01.31
show. I just want
to talk to Leslie a bit
00:23:01.38\00:23:03.55
about what your
position is and your role is
00:23:03.58\00:23:06.65
with the Beehive.
- Well, maybe about
00:23:06.72\00:23:10.49
2013, we were
asked to come to a church
00:23:10.52\00:23:12.85
upstate in New York
to help them develop
00:23:12.92\00:23:14.66
a center of
influence. I had never heard of
00:23:14.72\00:23:17.43
the Beehive or
anything like that, and so we
00:23:17.46\00:23:19.76
were doing it the hard
way. We were developing
00:23:19.79\00:23:21.26
curricula and things
like that to train the
00:23:21.33\00:23:23.43
people how to get
into the communities and
00:23:23.53\00:23:25.83
do this work according
to Christ's method. And
00:23:25.90\00:23:28.04
then one day, I
receive a text message from a
00:23:28.14\00:23:31.11
number that I
didn't recognize, and it
00:23:31.17\00:23:32.71
just had a link;
that's it. It was from- this
00:23:32.77\00:23:36.48
was in 2015 and was
the August 2015 issue
00:23:36.54\00:23:40.98
of the Review. On
the cover was Jared and
00:23:41.05\00:23:46.72
Rico, and I'm like,
"Who are these guys?
00:23:46.76\00:23:48.99
Really?" [laughter]
And so I go to their
00:23:49.06\00:23:52.86
page and I'm like,
"You gotta be kidding
00:23:52.96\00:23:54.30
me! These guys
have this whole training
00:23:54.30\00:23:56.46
regime to prepare
Seventh-Day Adventists
00:23:56.60\00:23:58.53
to go and do the work
in the communities that
00:23:58.63\00:24:01.70
they serve on an
ongoing sustainable basis using
00:24:01.77\00:24:04.61
health focus
outreach?" So, the group that I
00:24:04.67\00:24:07.78
was working with,
I said, "You guys"- I
00:24:07.84\00:24:09.41
sent them all this
article. They're like,
00:24:09.48\00:24:10.95
"Where'd you get thi"-
I was like, "I don't know
00:24:11.01\00:24:12.35
who sent this to me!"
[laughter] To this day,
00:24:12.38\00:24:14.52
this is 5 years
later, I still don't know who
00:24:14.58\00:24:17.49
actually sent this
text. It actually has opened
00:24:17.52\00:24:20.86
up an opportunity and
a new world for me and
00:24:20.89\00:24:25.39
the people that I
work with at the trust.
00:24:25.46\00:24:27.20
Our goal right now
is to take what it is
00:24:27.23\00:24:30.07
that we see Jonathan
doing and bringing it
00:24:30.13\00:24:32.13
here to the
United States. But again,
00:24:32.23\00:24:34.20
it starts with training.
- So, your group, then,
00:24:34.24\00:24:39.61
does the training? -
No, we do the training.
00:24:39.64\00:24:42.51
It's an online
training program, and, really,
00:24:42.58\00:24:45.98
it's a whole cycle
of evangelism. I'm just
00:24:46.08\00:24:48.02
kind of like- just
give you a sense of what
00:24:48.08\00:24:49.52
that looks like. We
start with revival. We need
00:24:49.62\00:24:52.79
to revive our
churches, to wake them up out
00:24:52.85\00:24:55.06
of their sleeping,
right? So, we actually
00:24:55.12\00:24:57.23
hold a rally. And when
we, in the second segment,
00:24:57.29\00:24:59.89
when we're talking,
we'll bring out a couple who
00:24:59.96\00:25:02.23
actually had been
right in the thick of it, and
00:25:02.30\00:25:05.00
they orchestrated a
rally (I don't want to
00:25:05.10\00:25:07.80
steal their thunder
too much), but 500 people
00:25:07.87\00:25:10.61
from 16 churches
showed up in one high school
00:25:10.71\00:25:13.88
location. We're
like, "How do we finish
00:25:13.91\00:25:16.75
this work?" So,
they'll talk about that, but
00:25:16.78\00:25:18.71
it starts with that
revival, then people
00:25:18.78\00:25:21.32
go online and they
do a course online where
00:25:21.38\00:25:24.42
they learn about,
basically, the Great Controversy
00:25:24.49\00:25:28.72
that we are in and
what that all means
00:25:28.79\00:25:31.33
and what it all
entails in terms of, you know,
00:25:31.39\00:25:34.50
the work that God
has called us to do, how
00:25:34.56\00:25:36.83
we have to put
aside our own desires and
00:25:36.93\00:25:41.14
die to self in order
to really do this work, to
00:25:41.20\00:25:43.87
really understand and
appreciate the righteousness
00:25:43.97\00:25:47.74
of Christ. And having
Christ as our righteousness
00:25:47.81\00:25:50.75
to actually do the
work... You know, people will
00:25:50.81\00:25:53.31
say to you
sometimes, "Well, you know? I'm
00:25:53.38\00:25:54.92
really not a
speaker, and I don't really...
00:25:54.98\00:25:56.95
That's not my thing.
I just kind of stay in
00:25:56.99\00:25:58.82
the..." When Jesus
spoke, He says, "You
00:25:58.89\00:26:01.19
know what- the words
that I speak, they're
00:26:01.22\00:26:02.56
not my own. The work
that I do is not my work;
00:26:02.59\00:26:05.13
it's the Father's."
He's trying to help us
00:26:05.19\00:26:07.13
understand that what
we can do, it's not based
00:26:07.13\00:26:10.00
on our own strength;
it's what God does through
00:26:10.07\00:26:12.47
us. So, really,
the course is all about
00:26:12.50\00:26:14.74
allowing God to use
you as a broken vessel. He
00:26:14.77\00:26:18.57
gets all the glory
when that happens, right?
00:26:18.67\00:26:20.38
- Yes! Yes, yes. And
there are so many people,
00:26:20.48\00:26:21.94
like you said, who
feel that they're not able
00:26:22.04\00:26:24.65
to do this; but it's
the power of God that gives
00:26:24.71\00:26:27.45
you the ability
to those He calls; He
00:26:27.52\00:26:30.82
equips. He's not
just going to put you out
00:26:30.89\00:26:33.22
there without
equipping you to do the job. So,
00:26:33.29\00:26:36.12
that is amazing. -
Well, you know what- when you
00:26:36.19\00:26:38.96
think about it, God
gets the glory when He takes
00:26:38.99\00:26:41.53
someone who says,
"I'm really shy." I'm a shy
00:26:41.60\00:26:44.60
person! People never
believe me when I say
00:26:44.70\00:26:47.00
that. I am! I am.
I'm a very shy person. If
00:26:47.04\00:26:50.87
you really knew me,
I'm a VERY shy person. But
00:26:50.94\00:26:53.54
I believe that when
the power of God takes hold
00:26:53.64\00:26:57.81
of you, you can do
anything! It doesn't
00:26:57.88\00:27:00.75
matter. So when
people say, "You know what...
00:27:00.85\00:27:02.65
That's not my thing."
People have to get out
00:27:02.75\00:27:06.15
of their comfort zone
and get into the Comforter's
00:27:06.22\00:27:08.62
zone. Come on, somebody;
say amen! - Come on, now!
00:27:08.69\00:27:12.89
- Because when you
do that, God will work
00:27:12.96\00:27:14.63
through you. Amen?
- That's right, amen.
00:27:14.73\00:27:16.43
So, you and
Leslie- - We work together.
00:27:16.50\00:27:20.97
He's a sales guy.
That's his background
00:27:21.07\00:27:26.01
before the Lord
grabbed ahold of him, and he
00:27:26.04\00:27:29.41
has the
ability...he has a unique set of
00:27:29.48\00:27:32.81
gifts and skills in
terms of going out and
00:27:32.88\00:27:35.75
just- the man will go
without sleep, without
00:27:35.82\00:27:38.92
rest; he won't break
any health laws, amen?
00:27:38.99\00:27:40.76
[laughter] But nonetheless,
he will drive to Canada,
00:27:40.86\00:27:44.99
he will drive to- you
just drove to Nova Scotia?
00:27:45.09\00:27:47.10
From New York City,
from upstate New York.
00:27:48.53\00:27:51.23
He will go and go and
go to tell people about
00:27:51.30\00:27:54.27
how they can get into
this work, and nothing
00:27:54.34\00:27:57.37
stops him. So, when
we connected, he was
00:27:57.47\00:27:59.84
exactly what we needed
in terms of just getting
00:27:59.91\00:28:01.84
the word out; and
now, from that, just tell
00:28:01.91\00:28:04.71
them about the partnership
that had developed as
00:28:04.78\00:28:06.78
a result of some of
the work the Lord has
00:28:06.85\00:28:08.55
been doing through you.
- Well, praise the Lord.
00:28:08.62\00:28:10.32
A lot of what has happened
is just going and telling
00:28:10.35\00:28:12.89
folks that, "Hey,
you know what, we have a
00:28:12.95\00:28:14.99
work to do; we've
been created for a specific
00:28:15.09\00:28:16.86
purpose and
specific reason for the times
00:28:16.89\00:28:19.29
that we live, and that
there's no getting around
00:28:19.36\00:28:22.20
it and that as Seventh-Day
Adventists, we have this
00:28:22.26\00:28:24.17
awesome responsibility
to be an asset to the
00:28:24.27\00:28:27.24
communities that
we serve and to the
00:28:27.27\00:28:29.34
world. We started
to speak to conference
00:28:29.40\00:28:33.04
workers, conference officials,
union officials, and I've
00:28:33.07\00:28:37.15
written as many as 15
letters to one guy. - Wow.
00:28:37.25\00:28:40.32
[laughter] - I'll
follow up till you tell me to
00:28:40.42\00:28:44.39
go away. That's my
sales background. But
00:28:44.45\00:28:46.89
the whole idea is, this
is what we've been called
00:28:46.96\00:28:48.96
to do. How can you
help us to accomplish
00:28:48.99\00:28:50.93
this as the president
of the Atlantic Union?
00:28:50.99\00:28:53.43
G. Earl Knight
supports what it is that we've
00:28:53.50\00:28:55.13
been doing as a
conference. Danielle Anore from
00:28:55.20\00:28:58.93
Northeastern
Conference. And Northeastern
00:28:59.00\00:29:03.04
Conference, at their
last worker's meeting,
00:29:03.10\00:29:04.64
said, "We believe
that Christ's method is the
00:29:04.71\00:29:07.68
way that we are going
to finish this work. We
00:29:07.74\00:29:10.01
want to expose all
60,000." They almost
00:29:10.08\00:29:12.68
have 60,000
members, 200+ churches in
00:29:12.71\00:29:15.45
Northeastern
Conference. And Northeastern
00:29:15.52\00:29:17.82
Conference and
Southern New England Conferences
00:29:17.89\00:29:19.72
are working together
in the shared territories,
00:29:19.79\00:29:21.82
because we need a
mobilized, well-trained group of
00:29:21.89\00:29:25.79
people to go into
the communities, into the
00:29:25.86\00:29:27.66
homes and actually
developing meaningful
00:29:27.73\00:29:31.00
strategic alliances
with government, with
00:29:31.07\00:29:33.64
education, and telling
them, "We are Seventh-Day
00:29:33.67\00:29:35.57
Adventist. This is
what we bring to the
00:29:35.60\00:29:37.11
table. This is how we
can improve the health
00:29:37.14\00:29:39.04
of your community,
and we're not charging you
00:29:39.11\00:29:42.21
anything, 'cause God
has sent us to do this
00:29:42.28\00:29:44.38
work and no one
else has been sent to do
00:29:44.45\00:29:46.82
this work." And so,
it's been a tremendous
00:29:46.85\00:29:49.15
blessing to see the
response of not only
00:29:49.25\00:29:52.02
church officials. One
of the quotes that has
00:29:52.09\00:29:55.22
really motivated me
to just go, go, go, is
00:29:55.26\00:29:58.63
taken from Counsels
for the Church, page
00:29:58.73\00:30:01.50
58, paragraph 1.
"The work of God in this
00:30:01.60\00:30:04.27
Earth can never be finished..."
00:30:04.37\00:30:06.03
...that this is an
all-hands-on-deck. This is-
00:30:12.94\00:30:15.28
there's no time for
us to bicker about what
00:30:15.34\00:30:17.88
was- this is now.
Let's work together
00:30:17.98\00:30:21.42
now, let's get this
work done, and let's
00:30:21.52\00:30:24.25
go to heaven, because
there is an end to this,
00:30:24.29\00:30:27.62
and we're a part to
this Great Controversy
00:30:27.72\00:30:30.23
between Christ and
Satan. We're on the
00:30:30.29\00:30:33.19
right side and we
need to go on the winning
00:30:33.26\00:30:35.26
side. - That's right.
- We need to let people
00:30:35.33\00:30:37.67
know that they
have a role; Seventh-Day
00:30:37.70\00:30:39.83
Adventists have a
role. It's not just returning
00:30:39.90\00:30:41.77
the tithe or going
to church. Jesus never
00:30:41.84\00:30:44.57
sent a proxy; He
always went Himself. And we
00:30:44.64\00:30:47.81
need to go
ourselves. So, what CHAT really
00:30:47.84\00:30:51.68
does is it creates
authentic opportunities
00:30:51.78\00:30:54.18
for Seventh-Day
Adventists to learn
00:30:54.25\00:30:55.68
how to engage the
community sustainably,
00:30:55.75\00:30:58.49
long-term; not
just, "Hey, we're having a
00:30:58.55\00:31:00.76
health expo! Come and
join us, and then we'll
00:31:00.86\00:31:02.66
see you next year for
the next health expo."
00:31:02.72\00:31:04.56
That's not
authentic ministry that we as
00:31:04.69\00:31:07.60
Seventh-Day Adventists
have been called to do.
00:31:07.73\00:31:10.03
Jesus was in the
community 365 for 3-and-a-half
00:31:10.07\00:31:13.70
years. We're supposed
to follow His example,
00:31:13.80\00:31:17.11
and we should be
in the community 365!
00:31:17.17\00:31:19.71
Seventh-Day Adventists
need to become important
00:31:20.84\00:31:22.91
and relevant in
the day-to-day lives of
00:31:22.98\00:31:25.05
the people that their
churches serve. - That's
00:31:25.15\00:31:29.22
very true. You
know, if your church is in
00:31:29.32\00:31:32.79
a community and people
in the surrounding area
00:31:32.89\00:31:35.19
don't know that that
church is there, you're
00:31:35.26\00:31:37.93
not doing your job.
That's one of the things-
00:31:37.99\00:31:40.96
- And too much of
that happens, by the way.
00:31:41.06\00:31:42.56
- Absolutely! Would
the community miss- if,
00:31:42.66\00:31:47.10
for some reason, the
church shut down, would
00:31:47.17\00:31:49.47
the community miss that
church? And if the answer
00:31:49.54\00:31:52.61
is no and they don't
even know that we are
00:31:52.71\00:31:55.91
there, then we have
a big problem! And what
00:31:55.98\00:31:58.55
I'm hearing you say
is that we have to- let's
00:31:58.65\00:32:03.05
get that fire
going. Let's get that fire
00:32:03.15\00:32:06.09
going. Let's get
that involvement, that
00:32:06.15\00:32:08.96
revival going,
because if we are revived- too
00:32:09.06\00:32:14.83
many of us are
asleep at the wheel. We are
00:32:14.93\00:32:17.93
asleep. We're just
lethargic, we just-
00:32:18.03\00:32:20.30
and we need to have
that Holy Ghost revival going
00:32:20.40\00:32:26.21
so that we have that
energy to do what God
00:32:26.31\00:32:29.88
has called us to do.
The Lord is coming back
00:32:29.94\00:32:31.81
here, and people need
to know about the Lord!
00:32:31.91\00:32:35.22
Go ahead. - Well,
there's a quote sister
00:32:35.28\00:32:36.89
White said that many
in our churches would
00:32:36.95\00:32:38.49
do this work if
they were taught. This is
00:32:38.59\00:32:41.42
where CHAT comes in.
It's actually creating
00:32:41.52\00:32:44.09
the platform for us
to be taught how to do
00:32:44.19\00:32:47.46
this work, not as a
hit-or-miss but as a
00:32:47.56\00:32:50.10
well-oiled machine to
do this comprehensively.
00:32:50.20\00:32:53.03
I read an article
in 2013 by Ted Wilson
00:32:53.13\00:32:56.20
called, "Big
Cities, Bigger Vision," and
00:32:56.30\00:32:59.17
it really helped me
to understand that the
00:32:59.24\00:33:01.44
world church and I
have the exact same mission
00:33:01.51\00:33:04.65
as a member of
the church. And how do
00:33:04.71\00:33:06.48
we work together
with the world church with
00:33:06.55\00:33:08.82
our conferences,
with our unions, with our
00:33:08.85\00:33:10.19
pastors, in order
to do this work on an
00:33:10.29\00:33:12.25
ongoing, sustainable
basis? And it requires
00:33:12.35\00:33:14.29
that we demonstrate
the love for each other
00:33:14.36\00:33:16.32
that the Bible says
that we should so that
00:33:16.39\00:33:18.59
people will know that
we are Christ's disciples.
00:33:18.66\00:33:20.90
If we do this work
once and for all, we'd-
00:33:20.93\00:33:23.87
and I look at it
like this: I used to be a
00:33:23.97\00:33:26.03
competitive
athlete, and I want to win. I
00:33:26.10\00:33:28.64
never went to a track
meeting and said, "Oh,
00:33:28.74\00:33:31.44
I'm gonna get a
bronze today!" I came to get
00:33:31.57\00:33:34.68
the bronze? No!
I'm going for the gold.
00:33:34.74\00:33:36.91
Jesus has promised us
the gold of the kingdom,
00:33:37.01\00:33:40.48
so what I'm hoping is
that people will recognize
00:33:40.58\00:33:43.12
that Adventism is
not a spectator's sport;
00:33:43.18\00:33:46.72
this is an all-hands-on-deck,
and you need to learn your
00:33:46.82\00:33:49.69
role so that you can
play a meaningful part
00:33:49.79\00:33:53.03
in finishing the
work that God has called
00:33:53.13\00:33:55.66
us to do as a
people. - That's beautiful.
00:33:55.76\00:33:57.87
- You know what,
there's something that I got
00:33:57.93\00:33:59.30
from Leslie. He
said that we were on a
00:33:59.37\00:34:01.64
conference call one
day. He says, "You know
00:34:01.70\00:34:03.17
what?" with the same
passion that you see here,
00:34:03.24\00:34:05.77
"You know what? If
you're in the military,
00:34:05.84\00:34:08.11
they don't seek to
take a city and not talk to
00:34:08.18\00:34:11.68
each other!" He says,
"If you're going to take
00:34:11.75\00:34:15.12
a city, all hands
on deck, all the units
00:34:15.18\00:34:18.02
are working
together, you don't have a unit
00:34:18.09\00:34:20.06
over there and a
unit over here and they're
00:34:20.09\00:34:21.46
like, 'What are you
guys doing?' 'Oh, well,
00:34:21.52\00:34:23.46
we're doing our thing
over here.'" They work
00:34:23.53\00:34:26.16
in tandem; they work
in conjunction with one
00:34:26.26\00:34:28.83
another. And this is
really- it's a coordinated
00:34:28.90\00:34:31.77
effort, and that's
really the heart of what
00:34:31.87\00:34:33.60
we're doing. As we
talk to conferences-
00:34:33.70\00:34:36.34
and wait till you
talk to the couple that's
00:34:36.40\00:34:38.87
coming up in the
second segment of the show-
00:34:38.97\00:34:40.68
how we're setting up
evangelism zones where
00:34:40.74\00:34:43.04
entire conferences
have bought into this, and
00:34:43.08\00:34:46.25
they're trying to
mobilize the people.
00:34:46.28\00:34:47.65
It's really within
Ted Wilson's idea of
00:34:47.72\00:34:50.35
total member
involvement. So, we'll talk some
00:34:50.45\00:34:53.82
more about that. -
Yes, yes; for sure. So,
00:34:53.86\00:34:55.72
what you're saying
is the importance of
00:34:55.79\00:34:59.09
partnering - the
importance of, you
00:34:59.16\00:35:02.23
know, if I have
this ministry over here,
00:35:02.26\00:35:04.97
and you have this one
over here, and somebody
00:35:05.03\00:35:07.57
else has this one
over here, why can't we
00:35:07.64\00:35:09.50
come together? - We
cannot finish the work
00:35:09.57\00:35:11.67
until we partner. - And
make a difference. - Because
00:35:11.77\00:35:13.88
Jesus said, and you kind
of quoted it there, Jesus
00:35:13.98\00:35:17.35
said that, "They
will know that I've come
00:35:17.38\00:35:20.05
when you're one." We're
all scattered and all over
00:35:20.12\00:35:23.69
the place, then it
doesn't represent the very
00:35:23.79\00:35:26.55
character of God. He
says, "The Father and
00:35:26.62\00:35:28.72
I, we're one!" And
I pray that you also
00:35:28.79\00:35:32.09
would be one so
that the world will know
00:35:32.16\00:35:34.60
that I've come. But
unless they see that-
00:35:34.66\00:35:37.97
'cause really, at the
end of the day, Yvonne,
00:35:38.03\00:35:40.90
the point of the
whole gospel is that the
00:35:40.94\00:35:45.04
world would get
a revelation of the
00:35:45.14\00:35:47.84
character of Jesus;
and that character is
00:35:47.91\00:35:50.45
one where there's one
love, there's one mission.
00:35:50.51\00:35:54.08
- Yes. Yes, and that
is doable. - Absolutely.
00:35:55.95\00:36:00.09
- And you guys are
doing it. You're bringing
00:36:00.19\00:36:04.19
people together
through the power of the Holy
00:36:04.26\00:36:07.36
Spirit - bringing
people together to finish this
00:36:07.40\00:36:10.00
work. Jonathan, you
were over there in Haiti,
00:36:10.07\00:36:13.13
living in a
situation where- tell us about
00:36:13.20\00:36:15.87
your living
conditions, how you're living.
00:36:15.97\00:36:18.81
- Talk about that
and also let them know
00:36:18.87\00:36:20.88
some of those
pictures of what partnerships
00:36:20.91\00:36:23.35
have wrought. -
Yeah. To start with the
00:36:23.38\00:36:26.18
partnerships, we're
seeing a lot of benefit
00:36:26.25\00:36:27.78
with coming
together and partnering and
00:36:27.82\00:36:29.35
helping each other to
move the work forward,
00:36:29.42\00:36:31.92
Loma Linda... - We
have a picture about that.
00:36:32.02\00:36:34.06
- Yeah, it showed
the Loma Linda students
00:36:35.56\00:36:36.96
that there was one
of them. We have a lot
00:36:37.03\00:36:40.83
of good partnerships
there; several ministries
00:36:40.90\00:36:43.03
and churches and
schools, Walla Walla and Andrews
00:36:43.10\00:36:45.83
and Southern and the
local university, the
00:36:45.90\00:36:49.40
local ADRA, a local
hospital, other ministries,
00:36:49.44\00:36:52.91
Quiet Hour,
Restore a Child... Lots of
00:36:53.01\00:36:56.18
different Adventist
ministries and partnerships
00:36:56.24\00:36:58.48
have been a huge
blessing. We've talked some
00:36:58.55\00:37:00.75
about the city work,
city mission, and in the
00:37:00.85\00:37:03.82
countryside is really
where we're passionate
00:37:03.85\00:37:06.45
and excited about
people coming to CHAT
00:37:06.52\00:37:09.26
with the community.
We're feeding everyone
00:37:09.32\00:37:12.49
that we can from
the community. We have a
00:37:12.53\00:37:14.46
picture of a bunch
of kids that have come
00:37:14.56\00:37:16.30
to the kitchen there
to be fed. I found that
00:37:16.40\00:37:21.07
before they can be
spiritually fed, they
00:37:21.14\00:37:23.84
need to be fed so
that they can be nourished
00:37:23.91\00:37:27.01
and actually hear what
you're saying. - Absolutely.
00:37:27.11\00:37:29.54
- They really are
hungry for actual food, and
00:37:29.61\00:37:32.35
then they realize
that they're hungry for the
00:37:32.41\00:37:33.92
spiritual food. -
That's right. - One of our
00:37:34.02\00:37:36.79
great examples of the
CHAT program and action
00:37:36.89\00:37:40.66
there in Haiti
is one of our, now,
00:37:40.76\00:37:42.89
full-time workers.
She was coming to a
00:37:42.96\00:37:45.59
clinic time. She's
so sick and the kids are
00:37:45.66\00:37:48.16
sick, and no one
can understand why she's
00:37:48.23\00:37:49.66
sick. We're like,
"Let's go to your house and
00:37:49.73\00:37:51.63
see if we can help."
So we went to her house,
00:37:51.67\00:37:54.10
and we get to her house
and we see that her whole
00:37:54.20\00:37:56.57
roof is made out
of natural fiber stuff
00:37:56.67\00:37:59.67
like banana leaves
and sticks, and it's
00:37:59.71\00:38:01.91
got so many problems.
There's little animals
00:38:02.01\00:38:04.41
in there, little
bugs, and mold; the house
00:38:04.51\00:38:08.02
is made out of
sticks. It's just an amazing
00:38:08.12\00:38:11.15
situation that this
woman and her children
00:38:11.22\00:38:13.59
were in. So, we
raised money, fixed the roof/
00:38:13.69\00:38:15.82
repaired the roof, and
she's not sick anymore.
00:38:15.89\00:38:18.29
Now, she's coming to
church, and her kids-
00:38:18.36\00:38:21.13
she's not Adventist;
kids are not Adventist;
00:38:21.23\00:38:23.13
her friends and
neighbors, not Adventist-
00:38:23.20\00:38:25.20
and now they're
coming to church, in a church
00:38:25.30\00:38:27.74
where we actually
did a bunch of work and
00:38:27.80\00:38:30.21
fixed a bunch of
stuff. The church close by had
00:38:30.24\00:38:32.57
a dirt floor, and we
put a concrete floor and we
00:38:32.61\00:38:36.44
built some
benches. The guys, actually,
00:38:36.51\00:38:39.48
that built the
benches, they said, "We're going
00:38:39.55\00:38:42.75
to come to church on
Sabbath." They're not
00:38:42.78\00:38:44.39
Adventist. Like,
"We're going to come to church
00:38:44.42\00:38:46.15
on Sabbath. We built
the bench...we're going
00:38:46.19\00:38:47.76
to sit on that
bench." [laughter] - That's
00:38:47.82\00:38:51.36
great. "We're not
going to let that bench go
00:38:51.43\00:38:53.63
to waste." - They
came in, they're sitting on
00:38:53.70\00:38:55.80
the bench, they're
so happy...the kids and
00:38:55.90\00:38:57.77
young people and
non-Adventists, sitting
00:38:57.87\00:38:59.80
in church on
Sabbath, 'cause they're proud
00:38:59.87\00:39:01.87
of their work. - Aw,
that's good. You guys
00:39:01.90\00:39:03.57
are doing an amazing
job. We're so grateful
00:39:03.64\00:39:07.91
for what you're
doing. We have some music,
00:39:07.98\00:39:11.55
and then we have
some other guests that
00:39:11.61\00:39:13.38
you'd want to talk
to about what they're
00:39:13.45\00:39:15.78
doing as well. So,
thank you both, Jonathan
00:39:15.88\00:39:18.15
and Leslie, for all
that you're doing. Let's
00:39:18.25\00:39:20.79
listen to Sam Ocampo again
as he plays "The Lighthouse."
00:39:20.89\00:39:26.49
- Thank you so much,
Sam, for that beautiful
00:43:46.65\00:43:48.69
song, "The Lighthouse."
And that's what we're
00:43:48.76\00:43:51.03
to be! We're to be a
lighthouse in the darkness.
00:43:51.13\00:43:54.30
There are so many
people who don't know
00:43:54.36\00:43:56.26
about Jesus who
need to, and we have two
00:43:56.33\00:43:59.00
guests here who are
being lighthouses in
00:43:59.07\00:44:02.74
their communities.
Welcome to the Domdrowskis
00:44:02.84\00:44:06.88
We have Tom and
Sandra. - Thank you. - So nice
00:44:06.98\00:44:09.68
of you to be here.
Tell us what you're
00:44:09.74\00:44:11.81
doing. - Well, we are
trying to develop CHAT
00:44:11.88\00:44:15.38
and create a model
of evangelism for the
00:44:15.48\00:44:19.15
cities. Most of
the people in the world
00:44:19.25\00:44:21.72
today are congregating
in cities, they're living
00:44:21.79\00:44:24.03
in cities, and we
have a work to do to
00:44:24.13\00:44:26.26
evangelize people,
to tell people the good
00:44:26.29\00:44:28.96
news, and so the
natural strategy is go to the
00:44:29.06\00:44:32.67
cities. We've gotta
do it in the cities.
00:44:32.77\00:44:34.60
And the challenge
that we're having is that
00:44:34.64\00:44:37.07
many of our churches
work as silos-kind of
00:44:37.11\00:44:40.64
independently of one
another-and what we're
00:44:40.74\00:44:43.11
trying to do is break
out of that silo mentality,
00:44:43.21\00:44:45.15
saying, "Listen.
There's no one church that can
00:44:45.21\00:44:47.18
work the city by
itself, so we've got to do this
00:44:47.28\00:44:50.25
together. We've got
to be a team." - Yes. So
00:44:50.29\00:44:51.99
how did you do it? -
Well, I was introduced
00:44:52.02\00:44:54.02
to CHAT - Rico
came to the Southern New
00:44:54.12\00:44:56.52
England conference
camp meeting in 2017. Very
00:44:56.59\00:44:59.03
grateful for our
conference administrators
00:44:59.13\00:45:00.93
for inviting him. I
had not known of him and
00:45:00.96\00:45:03.97
that ministry until
that point in time, so I was
00:45:04.07\00:45:06.47
introduced to him
through Leslie; Leslie
00:45:06.53\00:45:09.10
was there,
attending the camp meeting. He
00:45:09.17\00:45:11.11
invited me to a
meeting where we were with the
00:45:11.21\00:45:13.24
conference
president, union officials, and
00:45:13.38\00:45:15.44
Rico was there.
They proposed this idea.
00:45:15.54\00:45:18.01
They said, "We've got
these urban areas within
00:45:18.08\00:45:20.15
the Southern New
England conference: Boston,
00:45:20.22\00:45:22.08
Hartford,
Worcester, Providence of Rhode
00:45:22.15\00:45:25.02
Island. Can we try
to do this? Can we try
00:45:25.09\00:45:27.36
to tackle this?"
Because CHAT had been done
00:45:27.39\00:45:29.59
before as kind of
like on a one-church model,
00:45:29.66\00:45:32.63
but it had never
been done in a teamwork
00:45:32.69\00:45:35.86
model with multiple
churches. So I said,
00:45:35.93\00:45:38.90
"Yeah, let's give
it a shot." We have a
00:45:38.97\00:45:40.40
good relationship with
our regional conference
00:45:40.44\00:45:42.27
in the area,
Northeastern Conference, and we
00:45:42.34\00:45:44.61
decided to reach the
hand out and say, "Let's
00:45:44.71\00:45:48.91
do this. Let's try to
take this relationship
00:45:48.98\00:45:51.58
to a whole new level
in working in the Greater
00:45:51.65\00:45:54.22
Hartford area";
that's where the Connecticut
00:45:54.28\00:45:55.82
Valley churches... I
actually have a two-church
00:45:55.85\00:45:57.62
district- again, can't
forget my sister church,
00:45:57.72\00:45:59.72
Rockville-Tolland. But
it's a- we live kind of in
00:45:59.82\00:46:03.76
the shadow of
Hartford, so what we're trying
00:46:03.79\00:46:06.93
to do is create
the Greater Hartford
00:46:07.03\00:46:08.33
evangelism zone.
We have 16 churches,
00:46:08.40\00:46:12.10
primarily, in
that area. They're on
00:46:12.20\00:46:14.27
board with it. From
both conferences, the pastors
00:46:14.37\00:46:17.31
are supportive of the
idea, and we're starting
00:46:17.41\00:46:19.64
a work more collaboratively
and going- we're right
00:46:19.74\00:46:22.24
now in the
training session, the second
00:46:22.31\00:46:24.45
phase of this CHAT
cycle of evangelism.
00:46:24.51\00:46:26.61
- What I love about
this couple is that,
00:46:26.72\00:46:28.92
as a pastor couple,
pastoring two churches...
00:46:28.98\00:46:35.36
- Ah, now, see? I
should've introduced
00:46:35.42\00:46:37.43
you as Pastor. -
Oh, he's a pastor! - Oh,
00:46:37.53\00:46:39.69
I'm sorry. I apologize.
- Again, you were just
00:46:39.76\00:46:42.10
saying supporting
ministry working with
00:46:42.20\00:46:44.23
the local church
and conference. So,
00:46:44.30\00:46:47.87
partnerships.
That's what we're trying to
00:46:47.97\00:46:50.37
model. - That's great.
- Yeah, it's beautiful.
00:46:50.47\00:46:52.07
- And the beauty of
it is that he himself
00:46:52.11\00:46:54.81
has taken the
training. - Yes! - As the leader
00:46:54.88\00:46:57.75
of the church, don't
say, "Well, you all need to
00:46:57.81\00:46:59.71
do it"- no! He's
doing... He's online, taking the
00:46:59.75\00:47:02.15
training. But
Sandra's going to tell us, real
00:47:02.25\00:47:04.95
quickly, about the
rally that they had.
00:47:05.05\00:47:08.92
- Okay. - I didn't
know what to expect when
00:47:09.02\00:47:10.39
they said, "You're
going to come up here.
00:47:10.46\00:47:11.79
It's going to be
held at a high school..."
00:47:11.83\00:47:13.26
Take it away. - Well,
the first step in that
00:47:13.33\00:47:16.33
CHAT cycle of
evangelism that you saw is the
00:47:16.43\00:47:18.67
Great Health
Controversy weekend. Rico comes
00:47:18.77\00:47:21.07
in and gives a weekend,
and it's revival for the
00:47:21.14\00:47:24.01
church members. This
is not where you invite
00:47:24.11\00:47:26.11
the public; this is
to revive and educate the
00:47:26.14\00:47:29.71
church members and
to put a taste in their
00:47:29.81\00:47:31.65
mouth to say, "Yes,
I want to be trained."
00:47:31.71\00:47:34.52
And so he comes up,
and meanwhile, we've
00:47:34.58\00:47:37.19
all been working and
rallying the churches-
00:47:37.29\00:47:39.89
Leslie and Tom have
been going from church
00:47:39.99\00:47:43.09
to church, rallying
the pastors and everything-
00:47:43.19\00:47:45.43
and they responded
with 16 churches. This
00:47:45.49\00:47:49.66
is just one city's
worth of churches. We had
00:47:49.73\00:47:55.77
200 people come on
Friday night, we had
00:47:55.87\00:47:59.07
500 people come for
the Sabbath presentations
00:47:59.14\00:48:01.41
(which was all-day
long). - I think there's
00:48:01.48\00:48:03.04
a picture for
that, right? - We have a
00:48:03.08\00:48:04.41
picture up there
somewhere. Then, on Sunday, he
00:48:04.51\00:48:09.68
comes back and does a
hands-on. And you know
00:48:09.78\00:48:12.12
on Sunday, the
numbers drop off. He thought
00:48:12.19\00:48:14.52
there was just going
to be 25. We had 140.
00:48:14.59\00:48:19.06
There, he did some
cooking demos and he had
00:48:19.09\00:48:21.83
his chef come; they
were running out and getting
00:48:21.93\00:48:24.53
paper plates, you know,
last minute, just because
00:48:24.60\00:48:28.27
the number that
responded was so much more than
00:48:28.37\00:48:33.81
our expectations. And
also, this is when they
00:48:33.88\00:48:37.08
sign up for the
training and say, "We want to
00:48:37.15\00:48:38.85
continue. We want
to be able to do this
00:48:38.88\00:48:40.52
together." So, I just
want to give this number
00:48:40.62\00:48:43.69
here: we now have
75 to 80 people signed
00:48:43.79\00:48:49.59
up and going through
the online training right
00:48:49.66\00:48:52.16
now. This is including
families, so sometimes,
00:48:52.26\00:48:54.50
you sign up, but the
whole family is watching
00:48:54.56\00:48:57.93
it together and
going through the training.
00:48:58.00\00:48:59.47
We're excited about
that. - Yes! That's amazing!
00:48:59.53\00:49:02.77
- I should
mention that. They're not
00:49:02.80\00:49:04.14
just doing an online
training to get information.
00:49:04.24\00:49:06.54
We've got tons of
information as Adventists.
00:49:06.57\00:49:09.08
This is designed
for, once they finish,
00:49:09.14\00:49:11.98
they're going to do
something that YOU'RE
00:49:12.05\00:49:13.55
familiar with. They're
going to actually start
00:49:13.65\00:49:15.62
to do these
little satellite health
00:49:15.68\00:49:18.25
seminars
throughout the evangelism zone
00:49:18.32\00:49:20.99
of From Sickness to
Health. - I love it!
00:49:21.06\00:49:24.56
- So, for five
days, we utilize and we
00:49:24.63\00:49:28.26
integrate little
pieces from the show, and,
00:49:28.33\00:49:31.73
with a speaker-
now, I've been doing them
00:49:31.80\00:49:34.47
around the
country. What we do is, the
00:49:34.54\00:49:36.84
whole motto is, "Never
let people go." You keep
00:49:37.01\00:49:40.21
mingling with them all
the way to an evangelistic
00:49:40.28\00:49:42.78
series. You never
stop. Don't let them go.
00:49:42.88\00:49:46.72
Not as Leslie says.
"See you next year."
00:49:47.98\00:49:50.09
No! We take them from
one thing to the next.
00:49:50.12\00:49:52.19
They stay within the
cycle. - So the retention
00:49:52.25\00:49:54.49
level has got to
be through the roof,
00:49:54.56\00:49:56.56
because you're not
letting them go! - You
00:49:56.66\00:49:58.66
don't let them go. Can
I tell you this? - Yes.
00:49:58.73\00:50:00.10
- I just did an evangelistic
series in Tacoma, Washington
00:50:00.13\00:50:02.50
at the Tacoma
Central Church. In September,
00:50:02.60\00:50:06.23
I did a From Sickness
to Health - five days.
00:50:06.30\00:50:08.50
They spent about
$10,000 on ads: media, Facebook,
00:50:08.54\00:50:13.58
radio... No one
came to the evangelistic
00:50:13.74\00:50:17.65
series from that
effort. They sent out fliers.
00:50:17.75\00:50:20.88
The people who came
to the meetings came
00:50:20.92\00:50:23.85
from the health talks,
From Sickness to Health.
00:50:23.95\00:50:26.72
12 baptisms. Hallelujah.
Now, speaking of success,
00:50:26.82\00:50:31.56
you got to tell-
this is an amazing story.
00:50:31.66\00:50:33.96
Tell her the story.
We got like, one minute.
00:50:34.03\00:50:36.33
Tell the story about
the mayor. - The mayor.
00:50:36.40\00:50:38.73
Well, the mayor of...
- He came to the rally.
00:50:38.80\00:50:41.10
- ...of South
Windsor, we invited him to the
00:50:41.17\00:50:42.50
rally. He's a
medical doctor by profession,
00:50:42.54\00:50:44.24
graduate of the Yale
Medical School. He is
00:50:44.34\00:50:48.18
very respectful of
the work that we do as
00:50:48.24\00:50:51.08
Adventists. He's
Muslim by faith, profession,
00:50:51.15\00:50:53.68
but he grew up and
has been influenced by
00:50:53.75\00:50:56.72
Adventists through
his medical degree. He
00:50:56.82\00:51:00.89
came to the rally,
so he knows our health
00:51:00.96\00:51:03.96
message. He
understands the role that it can
00:51:04.06\00:51:05.83
play, and this is
what he said at this rally
00:51:05.96\00:51:07.40
(where there were 500
Seventh-Day Adventists).
00:51:07.50\00:51:09.26
- Now, Tom invited
him to the rally to
00:51:09.33\00:51:11.40
speak specifically to the
Adventists. - Honest thing.
00:51:11.47\00:51:13.94
And this is, in a
nutshell- he spoke for
00:51:14.20\00:51:16.87
10 minutes, but
here's what it boils down to:
00:51:16.91\00:51:18.54
he said, "You Adventists
are like a sports car.
00:51:18.64\00:51:20.24
You're like a fine-tuned
machine like a Porsche
00:51:20.98\00:51:22.74
that I saw sitting
in the parking lot." He
00:51:22.81\00:51:24.98
says the only problem
is this. He says, "You're
00:51:25.08\00:51:27.48
only going 5 miles
an hour." - Ooh. - And
00:51:27.58\00:51:29.62
as a result of that,
you're blocking traffic.
00:51:29.68\00:51:31.12
- Ooh! - He said,
"If you were to take this
00:51:31.22\00:51:33.52
machinery out on
the road the way it was
00:51:33.56\00:51:35.39
designed to run,
I guarantee you the
00:51:35.46\00:51:37.76
rest of us would be
following you." - Wow,
00:51:37.83\00:51:41.20
is that powerful? -
I was sitting like...
00:51:41.26\00:51:44.37
- Oh, wow. That is
so powerful. So, you
00:51:44.47\00:51:47.17
are actually reaching
out to the community and
00:51:47.27\00:51:51.24
getting them to come
in and hear; it's not
00:51:51.34\00:51:54.04
just for Adventists.
We don't want viewers
00:51:54.11\00:51:56.61
to think that this
is just for Adventists.
00:51:56.68\00:51:59.55
- Well, it's to
get the Adventists out
00:51:59.61\00:52:01.02
of the benches and
into the community.
00:52:01.05\00:52:02.85
- Yes. Yes. - It's
to train the Adventists,
00:52:02.95\00:52:04.72
really. - And
that is what we have to
00:52:04.82\00:52:08.49
do - get people up. I
know that you're going
00:52:08.59\00:52:11.19
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00:52:11.29\00:52:15.33
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