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00:02 I want to spend my life
00:07 Mending broken people 00:12 I want to spend my life 00:19 Removing pain 00:24 Lord, let my words 00:30 Heal a heart that hurts 00:34 I want to spend my life 00:40 Mending broken people 00:46 I want to spend my life 00:51 Mending broken people 01:09 Hello, I'm Shelley Quinn, and we welcome 01:11 you once again to 3ABN Today and just want 01:15 to take this opportunity to thank you for your 01:18 prayers and your love and your financial 01:20 support of 3ABN, the Mending Broken 01:23 People Network. I'm excited about our 01:26 special guests today. But before I introduce 01:28 them, let me read to you something that, to 01:32 me, is such a beautiful promise. It's something 01:36 that Jesus said in John 17:3. He said, "This 01:41 is eternal life that they should know You, 01:45 the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom 01:49 You have sent." Do you realize eternal life is 01:53 not a list of "dos and don'ts." Eternal life 01:56 is to have a relationship with a loving Heavenly 02:01 Father and to know Him in an intimate way. 02:05 That's the way He wants to know you. And I 02:08 tell you what! I think that all three of our 02:11 guests here today have found that secret, so 02:15 let me introduce you to our special guests. 02:18 First, we have John Youngberg. John, we're 02:21 so glad you're with us today! - Thank you 02:24 so much! I'm so happy to be here. - And you 02:26 are the co-founder of WIN Wellness; that's correct? 02:30 - That's right. - Well, we're going to get back 02:32 to you. You've got a PhD. He said, "Don't 02:35 bother about calling me "Doctor." This is a 02:38 man who has spent a lifetime in service to 02:44 the Lord, and that's special. Then, we have 02:47 Candice Hollingsead. Did I say it right? 02:50 - Yes. - Good! Candice, you're an educator. 02:53 - Yes, I am an educator. - And what do you do 02:55 with WIN Wellness? - I actually volunteer 02:59 to help WIN Wellness and John in the ministry 03:03 one day a week. For sure, one day a week. 03:06 Sometimes more, and just do whatever he needs. 03:10 - Praise God. - Including haul away some brush out 03:12 of his yard. [laughter] - Praise God. Well, 03:15 we appreciate that so much. Then, we have 03:18 Pastor Allen Dybdahl. Boy, I'll tell you- you're 03:22 going to want to catch this man's testimony 03:25 sometime, because it's amazing how God is 03:27 using him. But you are a vice president for WIN 03:31 Wellness. - Correct. - And kind of the director 03:34 of marketing; is that correct? - Yes, that 03:35 is correct. Marketing and sales. - Well, we 03:37 are very pleased to have the three of you. Before 03:42 we get kicked off into this story-and boy, 03:45 we got some exciting stories to share with 03:47 you-first, we have our very own Tammy Chance 03:51 that's Danny's sister. I love the way she sings. 03:55 My husband has already asked her. There's one 03:57 song she sings, he said, "If I go before 04:00 you, I want you to sing that at my funeral." 04:02 But Tammy's going to sing for us, "Because of Who You Are." 04:15 You spoke the words and all the worlds came into order 04:22 You raised Your hands and planets filled the empty skies 04:29 You placed a woman and a man inside the garden 04:36 And though they failed, they found compassion in Your eyes 04:43 Oh, Lord, I stand amazed at the wonder of it all 04:51 Yet, a greater wonder brings me to my knees 04:57 Lord, I praise You because of who You are 05:04 Not for all the mighty deeds that You have done 05:11 Lord, I worship You because of who You are 05:17 It's all the reason that I need to voice my praise 05:23 Because of who You are 05:32 One holy night, You sent Your promise from a virgin 05:39 And promise grew till He revealed to us Your heart 05:46 Endearing love displayed throughout Your crucifixion 05:53 And through Your death, You tore the darkened grave apart 06:00 Oh, Lord, I stand amazed at the wonder of it all 06:08 Yet, a greater wonder brings me to my knees 06:14 Lord, I praise You because of who You are 06:21 Not for all the mighty deeds that You have done 06:28 Lord, I worship You because of who You are 06:34 You're all the reason that I need to voice my praise 06:41 Lord, I praise You because of who You are 06:48 Not for all the mighty deeds that You have done 06:55 Lord, I worship You because of who You are 07:02 You're all the reason that I need to voice my praise 07:08 Because of who You are 07:15 Because of who You are 07:22 Because of who You are 07:40 Amen. The wonder of it all. What He did for 07:42 us and who He is. We've thanked Tammy very much. 07:46 Well, if you're joining us just a moment late, 07:48 we have three very special guests. John 07:50 Youngberg, Candice Hollingsead, and Allen 07:53 Dybdahl. We're so glad each and every one of 07:56 you are here. Before we kick off, we've got so 07:58 much to say. Can you give us the Reader's 08:00 Digest version? Just a little bit about your 08:03 life. Were you born in a Christian home? 08:05 - I was born in a Christian home. My 08:07 parents were missionaries in India. I was born after 08:10 they got back, and I count it a privilege 08:14 to enter the ministry. Went 15 years to 08:17 South America as I minister. Our two 08:22 sons and my first wife were born in Chile. 08:28 Incidentally, my oldest son is flying to Chile 08:32 to help a construction consultant for a few 08:37 days. So, anyhow, my first wife fell ill with 08:44 glioblastoma and unfortunately passed 08:47 away. Some time later, I married Millie. I'm 08:54 sorry to say that I lost her 7 months ago. - And 08:58 I'm so sorry, John. 08:59 - So, the WIN Wellness program was organized 09:03 by Millie and me, and God helped us as we 09:06 carried it to six continents published 09:09 in 31 languages around the world. And in just 09:12 one word, it's about helping people to be 09:15 well in every part of their lives - not only 09:18 biologically, but spiritually, in their 09:22 families... It all works together, and 09:25 that's what we're about- trying to share with 09:27 the world. - Praise God. Thank you so much 09:30 for that. Candice, how about you? Did you also 09:32 grow up in a Christian home? - Yes, I did grow 09:34 up in a Christian home! My father was a pastor, 09:36 so we were very involved in the churches that 09:39 he pastored. - Was he an Adventist Christian? 09:42 - He was an Adventist pastor, yes. My husband 09:45 and I have three children that are grown 09:47 adults (which is very lovely). I retired, 09:51 and when I retired, I found myself with little 09:55 to do. So, my husband said, "Well, why don't 09:57 you join a grow group?" I looked through the 10:01 catalogue in our church to- - What is a grow group? 10:04 - A grow group is a small group of people, 10:06 like a caring group or a study group that 10:08 get together in a home and study a specific 10:12 topic. In our church, there's a variety of 10:17 them- everything from riding a motorcycle or 10:19 going golfing or going boating or studying 10:21 health issues. So I said to my husband, 10:24 "I think I'll join this John and Millie's 10:26 grow group." - That was wonderful. - They're 10:29 lovely people! So I went, and from then 10:33 on, oh my. My life did change. - Praise God. 10:37 I know that, John, you said your middle 10:40 name is "Small Groups," right? [John laughs] 10:43 Thatta boy. I'll tell ya! - And so, I volunteer- 10:47 I'm sorry. So I volunteer once a week because I 10:50 think that the ministry that John and Millie 10:52 have been involved in is life-changing. - Praise 10:54 God. Praise God. How about you, Allen? - Well, 10:58 unlike these two, I did not grow up in a 11:01 Christian home. My great-grandparents 11:04 were Seventh-Day Adventist Christians, 11:06 and I remember just like it was yesterday. 11:09 I would go to their house probably every 11:13 couple of weeks or so, and they would always 11:15 tell me, when Friday night came, that the 11:18 Sabbath is approaching; "Put your toys away." 11:20 I never forgot that. But as most people do, 11:24 I just went my way until I was in my 20s 11:27 and actually heard about an evangelistic series 11:31 by Kenneth Cox down in Baton Rouge, 11:34 Louisiana in the early 80s. I went there and 11:37 was baptized. - Praise God. - I was very 11:42 interested in spreading the gospel message, so 11:44 I became a literature evangelist and I 11:46 served for 16 years as a literature evangelist 11:49 in different leadership positions. - He was 11:53 also publishing director of the Lake 11:55 Union Conference. - Wonderful. Okay! 12:00 Well now, let's just talk a little bit about 12:02 WIN Wellness. First of all, I want to know what 12:06 WIN stands for, but also, you have a 12:10 unique approach to health, so tell us 12:13 about that. - Well, WIN- we all want to 12:16 be winners, don't we? The WIN is an acronym 12:20 that stands for, "Wellness Integrating 12:23 Needs." So, we start with the needs of people- 12:28 the felt needs-and we move on from there. 12:31 So how does that affect you in your current 12:35 situation? So, WIN Wellness. Important 12:38 in that many people mention health only 12:42 from a biological standpoint. Our program 12:46 includes family wellness- that's where we really 12:49 started from-and it includes a spiritual and mental 12:53 wellness, and includes biological wellness, 12:56 all working together. - So, you have Jesus 13:00 at the center...is basically what your 13:04 approach is, and I think you've brought 13:05 something to show on the screen for that, 13:10 that you make Jesus the center as the 13:13 Healer; is that correct? - That's right. Jesus 13:15 is the great Healer; He's in the center, 13:17 and beyond this then are the various dimensions 13:21 of life which include mind-spirit, spiritual 13:26 wellness; which include the body, with biological 13:29 wellness, then how this is applied in 13:33 relationships: husband-wife relationships, family 13:38 relationships, parents and children. - So, 13:41 the synergy of your approach is that each 13:46 area of our life affects the other. - That's 13:50 right. And we feel that health and wellness is 13:54 not just a question of 8 remedies or this, 13:57 a few... It's actually a combination of all 14:02 of them, which- shall I speak about synergy? 14:06 - Sure! - Synergy, which means the whole 14:08 is greater than the sum of its parts. Well, 14:12 this is taught in the Bible. It says, "Five of 14:16 you will chase 100," in Leviticus 26, "but 14:20 100 of you will chase 10,000." - Okay, so as 14:25 we're looking at this graphic, what does this 14:27 graphic tell us? - It tells us that all of 14:30 these different dimensions of life, of these factors, 14:34 they blend together. So, some people say, 14:38 "Well, which is the most important?" We 14:40 answer with, chuckle, and say, "Well, when 14:42 you're not practicing, that's the most important." 14:44 But they all do something that is more than the 14:48 sum of their individual contribution. When you 14:52 blend them all together, things really begin 14:56 to happen in the health and the spiritual outlook 14:59 of the hope and longevity. - Yes. Now, as you 15:03 and Millie... How long were you and Millie 15:06 married? - Millie and I were married 46 years. 15:08 - 46. I know you're still going through the 15:12 adjustment, trying to find a new rhythm to 15:14 life without her and I'm sorry for your loss, 15:18 but you and Millie evidently made a really 15:22 dynamic team. - I run to keep up with 15:27 her. [laughter] - It's true! - But you had 15:30 an individual that- she was talking with 15:34 who was not a Christian, and something really 15:37 interesting happened. Tell us about that. 15:39 - The momentous moment in our life, we were in 15:41 Pune, India, and there we were. We were 15:46 finishing a seminar. One kind gentleman 15:48 had bought flowers every night and decorated the 15:51 auditorium, and we found out he was a 15:55 Hindu, and that was wonderful. The last 15:59 night, we were saying goodbye to the people 16:02 and Millie was praying with one and another, 16:05 and this gentleman approached one of 16:06 the directors and said, "Would Millie pray with 16:11 me?" So, the man came and said to Millie, 16:15 "This gentleman wants you to pray with him." 16:17 So, she walks over to where he is and says, 16:20 "Would you like me to pray for you?" "Yes." 16:24 "And what would you like me to pray about?" 16:26 We will never forget the answer. Only two 16:31 words, from a Hindu which, sometimes, 16:34 people think, "Well, they're pagans." Well, 16:38 I don't like the word 'pagan,' but, Hindus- 16:40 wonderful people. And this Hindu says just 16:43 two words: "More Jesus." - Woo! - And wow. Almost 16:48 a life-changing two words. - I think you 16:52 brought a picture of him. I want to be sure 16:54 to show that picture. Who's with him in this 16:59 picture? - I'm in the middle, and the 17:02 gentleman I'm speaking of is on the right. 17:05 - In the blue. - And he's a Hindu. Just 17:09 last year, he was baptized in the 17:12 Seventh-Day Adventist Church. - Glory! - As 17:15 a Christian. But he- the big thing for him was 17:18 finding out who Jesus was and more Jesus. 17:22 - So, I love the approach that you take, because 17:25 I know you've got a number of books and 17:27 we'll talk about them, but you have your WIN 17:31 Wellness- there's... We'll talk about these 17:33 books in just a moment, Getting Started, 17:36 Pressing Forward, Finishing Strong... 17:38 But after your encounter with this man, and I 17:43 know all of your books are based on Jesus. 17:47 I love your approach. - But here, we put it 17:49 all together. We had a bit of this, bit of 17:52 that in the other books; but here, we 17:55 started with Jesus and was all about Jesus. 17:58 - Okay. So this Hindu... What was his first 18:00 name? Do you remember? - I'm sorry, I don't know. 18:03 - Okay. He, though, was the catalyst for 18:06 you and Millie to write this book. - In our 18:08 thoughts, yes. - Jesus- Who Is He? Tell us 18:12 about the book. - Well, the book took two years 18:15 to write. It wasn't written in a fortnight. 18:20 We wrote it from an eyewitness standpoint. 18:25 Like, you're there and you're seeing this 18:29 and somebody who has been talking to Jesus is 18:33 telling his or her story of what Jesus did with 18:36 them. So, in the 20 chapters- we've been 18:42 very fortunate. In those 20 chapters, we have 18:45 them illustrated by none less than Nathan 18:48 Greene. - We're going to show one of those 18:51 illustrations in just a moment when we 18:53 come to that chapter. - So, anyhow, it's 18:57 changed lives and I will just tell one very 19:00 brief encounter of the book with someone 19:04 who needed it. A lady in hospice hadn't 19:09 eaten for two days, hadn't slept, and the 19:15 minister came to-Ellen is her name-and says, 19:20 "You know, I've got a book here. I'd like to 19:24 read you a chapter about Jesus. Who is He?" 19:27 She read about Jesus calming the storm. 19:33 Then, the lady listened attentively. That night, 19:39 she slept all night long after that. She says, 19:43 "I know who's in my case- Who's in my health. It's Jesus. 19:50 He was here with me." He says the next day, 19:54 she ate a good breakfast, then her son came to 19:58 visit her, then she lay down to sleep and 20:04 never woke up. But she knew who was with 20:09 her in her life was Jesus. - Who is He to 20:13 you? - Well, I'm a sinner saved by grace, 20:18 and Jesus is the most wonderful thing in my 20:23 life. It makes life worth living; it makes 20:26 it worth getting up in the morning; it makes 20:29 it worth sharing with other people. He is 20:32 my best friend. He's my all in all. - Amen! 20:36 And that's through many, many years, 20:39 many heartaches, many valleys, many mountaintops, 20:44 but He never let you down, did He? - I wrote 20:48 down a list, "God: Who Is He?" and in that list, 20:52 I have 111 different names of the Holy 20:56 Spirit and about 300 different names of God 21:00 and Jesus. He's all that to you, dear listener, 21:06 dear watcher, but He's more than that. He is 21:10 something special in your life. You can have 21:13 your own names for Jesus: best Friend, 21:15 wonderful Guide, whatever it is- all names of Jesus. 21:21 - Amen. Who is He to you, Candice? - I think 21:25 that the chapters in this book exemplify 21:28 exactly who He can be to a person. For example, 21:33 in chapter 8, it talks about brokenness to 21:36 wholeness, and it's actually the story 21:39 about the woman at the well. How many of us 21:45 are broken? We all are broken, but Jesus can 21:49 lead us to holiness. That is who Jesus is 21:54 to me and what this book is. That's probably 21:56 my favorite chapter in the book, because 21:59 everybody needs Jesus to bring them to wholeness. 22:02 It's really important and so glorious when 22:06 He does. There's another chapter that's about 22:09 being lost and found and reminds me of who 22:15 Jesus is, that He is wanting to find everyone. 22:20 Everyone! So, if you have a child that has 22:24 strayed, the Bible promises that the 22:27 children will be restored to their parents. If 22:29 we believe in Jesus, He will help to restore 22:33 and mend those family relations. - Amen. And 22:37 praise God that He does not want anyone 22:41 to perish. - No! He wants to save everyone! 22:43 Every single person. So, that brokenness 22:48 to wholeness and that lost to found are so 22:51 important. That's who Jesus is. - So, I know 22:54 that the final chapter is on the Second Coming 23:00 of Jesus Christ. Now, this is one of the 23:04 illustrations of Nathan Greene that we wanted 23:08 to show you. It's in the book because this 23:10 is such an amazing painting, but there's 23:14 something of real personal interest to you, John. 23:19 Tell us what. - As you look at the picture, 23:21 down on the right over by three people from 23:24 the corner, woman in her pink sweater, that's 23:30 my own dear Millie. I'm behind her in a 23:33 light blue. Yes, we will be waiting for Jesus. 23:38 I thought she might be among the living; 23:41 she's going to be one of those who are raised 23:43 from the dead. This wonderful picture Nathan 23:46 Greene- I think it's his best. Every one 23:50 of those angels has a human face, and these 23:53 people- they are real people. That angel 23:59 who's taking this little girl over from the grave, 24:02 her mother receiving this little girl, a 24:06 four-year-old little girl who caught leukemia 24:10 and was laid in the grave. That is the 24:12 dress that she was buried in. We see it 24:16 there, and the parents receiving her. You, viewer, maybe you 24:21 have some people who will be there, also, 24:23 when Jesus comes. That'll be wonderful- when we 24:28 rise up to meet Him together in the clouds. 24:31 - Oh, amen and amen. Allen? - Shelley, I 24:34 just can't stand it any longer. I gotta share, 24:36 especially with this picture we just saw 24:38 of Nathan Greene's. One day, I put an ad in the 24:42 paper for a lawn mower I wanted to sell, and 24:46 this lady responded and she came. When she got 24:49 there, we talked a little bit and she said, 24:50 "I don't know why I drove 50 miles to see 24:53 this lawn mower. I really didn't need to 24:54 drive that much." So we talked a little bit. 24:56 She's a member of one of the largest churches 24:59 in northern Indiana- Protestant churches. 25:03 So we talked a little bit, and I said, "I 25:04 got something before you leave." She did 25:06 buy the lawn mower, by the way. So I turned 25:08 the book to that page with Nathan Greene's 25:11 painting on there; didn't say a word. I 25:12 turn it and handed her the book, and she said, 25:16 "Do you believe that?" I said, "Yes, I do believe 25:20 it with all my heart." She said, "I do, too!" 25:24 She said, "My church I go to does not teach 25:26 this." - They don't teach the Second Coming? 25:29 - Neither does the pastor. - Wow. - And she said, 25:31 "Now, I know why I drove 50 miles." 25:35 Because of just showing her the picture. And 25:38 I must add this since I'm the marketing director: 25:40 I encourage everybody to have books in their 25:43 homes where they can share it with whoever 25:46 comes and works on their house or whatever 25:48 the case may be. Anybody! I bought 4 cases 25:52 already, so I share them with everybody I meet. 25:54 I've had some wonderful experiences. Gotta 25:57 share another one about that same book, too. 26:00 In the American College of Lifestyle Medicine- 26:04 every year- we were in Tucson last year, 26:10 last October, and we had a nice little brochure 26:13 sitting out there that showed, "Jesus-Who 26:15 Is He?" and the books, and I was standing there 26:18 by the booth. A man came by and he looked 26:20 at the poster, he looked at me, he looked at the 26:23 poster again... He goes, "Jesus... Who is He?" 26:27 to me. I'll never forget. I said, "Brother, He's 26:34 my Savior and He wants to be yours." And we 26:37 hit it off right then and we became great 26:40 friends. He probably calls me once every other 26:42 week. - Really! - He loves Jesus. I tell you, 26:48 that book will bring so many people to the 26:50 Lord. I just love it. - Why do you- I mean, 26:55 that's a huge statement, to say that this book 26:59 will bring so many people to the Lord. 27:00 You've got, obviously, stories, but why do you 27:04 think it is? This is a simple- I mean, these 27:09 are beautiful stories; they're simple. Why 27:10 does this touch people and their heart resonate 27:17 with this book? - John chapter 12 verse 32 says, 27:24 "And I, if I be lifted up from the earth 27:28 will draw all peoples to myself," and I 27:32 believe that. - So this- - The center of the gospel. 27:35 - It is the center of the gospel. Without 27:38 Jesus, we don't have a gospel. - Absolutely. 27:41 - We don't have any hope at all. One of 27:45 the chapters is about the resurrection. If 27:47 Jesus didn't rise- if He didn't die for our sins 27:50 the second death and then rise, we have nothing! 27:54 We have absolutely nothing. But because 27:56 He did die on the cross, He did do the 27:59 second death for us. He took that for ME 28:02 and for you. We don't have to die that second 28:06 death! We can claim His life and be 28:09 resurrected, He is the life giver! Why wouldn't 28:12 we want that? - I just have to say for those 28:16 who may be watching and you're going, "Second 28:18 death... What is that?" You need to read 28:21 Revelation which talks about the second death 28:24 twice. That's when people go into the 28:30 final place where all sinners will be annihilated 28:35 at the end, because there are so many 28:37 Christians who believe you're either going to 28:40 have eternal life in heaven or you're going 28:45 to have eternal life in hell, and that's not what the 28:47 Bible teaches! The Bible teaches Jesus 28:50 said, "For God so loved the world, He gave His 28:52 only begotten Son that whosoever believeth 28:55 in Him should not perish but have everlasting 28:59 life." So, those are the two things that 29:03 are being contrasted. What's your favorite 29:05 part of this book? - Well, I would say the 29:09 chapter on Calvary and Gethsemane - the two 29:14 key chapters of the book. What Christ 29:18 suffered in Calvary. We may not have 29:22 realized- pardon me. When He suffered in 29:24 Gethsemane, if after praying three times 29:28 that the cup be removed if it was the Father's 29:32 will. Then finally, He said, "But Thy will be 29:37 done." Whatever must be will be, and I want 29:42 to be- I'm willing to give my life for these 29:45 people. Then, He fell to the earth, I think, 29:49 as a dead man. If God wouldn't have sent the 29:52 angel, Jesus never would've got to Calvary, 29:55 because He would've died right there in 29:57 Gethsemane. It's the greatest decision in 30:00 the history of the world is that Jesus decided 30:03 that He would die for you and for me. - And 30:08 would you want to look- you see these cameras 30:10 over here. When they've got a little red light, 30:12 if you want to talk to the audience, that's 30:14 where you look, because you have got an evangelist's 30:18 heart. There is no if, ands, or buts about 30:21 it. But Allen, I'd like you to, for just a 30:25 minute, talk to us. I know you all brought 30:27 a graphic about the importance of the cross. 30:30 Explain this graphic to us. - Well, as it says, 30:35 Christ's death proved God's great love for 30:37 man. It is our privilege of salvation. To remove 30:42 the cross from the Christian would be like blotting 30:45 the sun from the sky. - What would it be like 30:50 to just live in darkness- total darkness? No 30:54 morning, no sunrise- just eternal night. 30:59 That is trying to have Christianity without a 31:03 cross. - Yes. - Religion without a Jesus. So, 31:07 that's one of my favorite statements- just to 31:11 think that Jesus is the One who brings the 31:15 light into our life, joy into our hearts... 31:19 And yes, viewer, He brings joy into YOUR 31:24 heart and life into your soul. - Amen. Amen. 31:28 Truly, you do have an evangelist's heart. It 31:30 shows. Your eyes twinkle when you're talking 31:34 about Jesus. So, if just for a minute, 31:39 before we kind of change horses here, tell us 31:45 about the experience of you and Millie working 31:48 on this together. - Well, it was life-changing. 31:55 Two whole years... This didn't happen in a moment. 31:58 Two whole years. And of course, Millie, 32:03 after I did most of the writing, she put a lot 32:07 of input into it, and she said, "Well, it's 32:10 still lacking something, John." She said, "I'm 32:13 going to write two more chapters." - I would 32:16 come to their house, and she'd say, "Okay, 32:19 we have another chapter," and I'd say, "That's 32:22 enough! That's enough; stop!" Then I'd come 32:26 the next week. "Oh, we have another chapter!" 32:28 It was really a time of joy for them to write 32:33 that book. Each chapter was incredible. - And 32:36 life-changing. - What I love... You're very 32:39 smart in the way, because this is not 32:42 an overpowering book at all. There's 20 32:45 chapters and they're relatively short so 32:47 you can sit down and read one in a decent 32:53 amount of time. Then you have reflection 32:56 questions afterwards, because that's what's 32:59 important. As we read John 17:3, THAT'S what 33:03 eternal life is all about. This is- we 33:06 have a covenant-keeping God whose heart it 33:10 is to reveal Himself to you who wants to 33:15 draw you near to Him, and He's wooing you 33:18 with His love all the time. You may not 33:20 recognize it, but He wants you to know 33:23 Him as He knows you. So, this is a very 33:27 special book. But I want to kind of transition 33:31 for a second. This book... It's interesting to me, 33:36 'cause if somebody just picked up and read 33:38 this book, they would think, "Oh, they're 33:41 evangelists." This is a precious way to look 33:46 at Jesus and come to know who He is, but you 33:50 said something so interesting. WIN 33:54 Wellness, you have a series of three books 33:57 here: book #1, 2, and 3. This is Getting Started, 34:03 On the Path to Health and Healing, Pressing 34:06 Forward on the Path to Health and Healing, 34:10 and Finishing Strong on the Path of Health 34:13 and Healing. But you said in the very 34:17 beginning, it was the little Hindu man's 34:20 comment to Millie. "More Jesus." That's 34:25 what he wanted. You said that's what brought 34:29 this fourth book, Jesus- Who Is He? And you 34:31 said it came from these wellness books. So, 34:35 you've got these stories then integrated in the 34:39 wellness books? - Yes. You see, we had Jesus 34:43 in every chapter, but, you know, a little Jesus 34:48 here, a little Jesus there, and we said, 34:50 "Hey, we've got to put this whole thing 34:52 together, because even if it's nutrition we're 34:56 talking about, we're talking about Jesus is 34:59 the Bread of Life." So, Jesus was there, 35:04 but we need to look at Him in His own right, 35:08 so we start with Him, front and center, and 35:11 we just dedicated a book because He is 35:15 the great Healer. Now, if you're into the 35:19 book ministry healing- shall I mention that 35:21 now? - Sure! - The book ministry healing- 35:23 a famous quote from this book speaks of 35:30 8 natural remedies. This is on page 127. 35:33 Yes, there are 8 natural remedies that 35:38 are very important, but the book also has 7 35:42 chapters on the family! And many people, they 35:45 don't think of the family when they think 35:49 of healing. But there are a lot of family 35:52 questions that need to be also dealt with. 35:55 So there, when we deal with the family, we 35:59 are dealing with such subjects as the crisis 36:05 in the family. A healthy family shows appreciation. 36:09 When I say, "I appreciate what you do and who 36:13 you are." A healthy family shows commitment- 36:17 husband to wife, wife to husband. A healthy 36:20 family spends time together. There is no 36:23 healthy family without time that we spend 36:26 together. A healthy family is one that has 36:31 social support. And finally, the most important 36:35 of all of them is love. Really, the key thing 36:39 in these three books, the key factor is love. 36:43 That's what blends it all together. It blends 36:48 all of these 21 different factors. There are 36:52 29 chapters, because some of the chapters 36:55 have to have two chapters dealing with one factor 37:01 such as love. So, someone said, "Which 37:07 is the most important one of all?" "It's the 37:09 one you're not doing." [Shelley laughs] In 37:13 every chapter of the book, we start out with a 37:17 gripping story. We move onto what science says 37:21 on this subject- recent scientific findings. 37:25 Then we said, "Now what does the Bible say on 37:28 that same subject?" So we have: the first I 37:34 is Interest, the second I is Information, the 37:39 third I is Inspiration! Then the fourth I is 37:44 Intentionality. What are you- what am I 37:48 going to do about it? Now, we're not quite 37:50 that blunt. But in other words, to say, 37:53 "Well, next week, when we come back together- 37:55 this week, we're talking about water! And you 37:58 made your own goals! Let's see. Did you have 38:01 any goal? Next week, I'm going to ask you, 38:03 'Have you reached that goal or done something 38:06 toward that goal during this week?'" So, they 38:10 share together, and that is encouraging when 38:13 I find out Candice says, "Yeah, I drink 38:16 my eight glasses a day," and Allen says, "I did 38:20 this," then that brings it to life to see real 38:25 people and not just an abstract factor out there. 38:28 - So, I have to tell you a story about a gentleman 38:30 that came to one of the small groups, and we 38:33 were studying book one in this 3-book series. 38:37 His name's John Ehn, and he had gone to 38:41 a wellness seminar at an Adventist church 38:45 and found out about the small group studies 38:48 on health and wellness at John and Millie's 38:50 house. It was actually the same small group 38:53 that I had joined. He's not Adventist. He brought- 38:58 he and another friend named Dale came. As we 39:04 were going, he was making changes and we would 39:08 press the intentionality and he'd say, "Oh, 39:11 I'm just making small steps, just taking 39:13 small steps." Then, all of a sudden, it was, 39:16 "Well, I gave up eating pork. I don't think 39:18 that's good, and I've decided not to drink 39:21 anymore. I don't think that's good for my 39:23 body." And as we went, it just got more and 39:26 more serious until we started to come to 39:28 the end of the 10 weeks. Then, he just 39:32 shocked us all by saying-'cause we 39:36 were coming to the end-he said, "Well, 39:37 what are we going to do next?" I said, "Well, 39:40 I think we have some time off before we 39:42 start the next grow group." And he said, 39:44 "Well, I can't do that!" We said to him, "Dale, 39:48 well then, what do you want to do?" He said, 39:51 "Well, let's study the Bible!" - Praise God. 39:54 - So, we just said, "Well, what do you 39:55 want to study in the Bible?" He'd tell us 39:59 and we'd make Bible studies. My husband 40:02 and John and Millie would make a Bible 40:03 study and then he and Dale would come, and 40:06 he was baptized and Dale was baptized! 40:10 And now, Dale's wife is studying with John, 40:12 as well. This John went on to host his 40:15 own grow group in another town. - This John visitor... 40:19 - The one that was baptized. Yes! It's 40:22 like it multiplies in this synergy. That is 40:28 just amazing. It's just miraculous when 40:30 you watch it happening. - But you know, I think 40:32 that- I have this saying, that rules 40:37 without relationship result in rebellion. 40:42 If you grow up just hearing, "Don't do 40:45 this, don't do that, don't do this, don't 40:46 do that," it's kind of like if you don't have 40:49 that relationship with Jesus, it makes you 40:52 want to rebel. But what happened here is 40:55 you obviously introduced him to the great Healer 40:59 and he was attracted to Jesus, and that's 41:02 where the intentionality- that's the root of it. 41:05 - And now, he's out there winning other 41:07 people to Jesus. - Yes, that's right. - Praise God; 41:09 amen. Allen, how did you get connected here? 41:13 - Good question. I live about a block away 41:17 from them. I never met them up until about 3 41:20 years ago. My wife's mother worked for them 41:23 as their secretary years ago, and so I was 41:27 raking leaves in my yard, and I saw these 41:30 two people come by (and it was John and 41:33 Millie). - They walk. - They walk constantly. 41:36 Millie said something to me and I responded, 41:39 and she invited me to one of their Friday 41:41 night meetings, which they've had for how 41:43 many years now, John? - Forever? - 30 years, 41:48 probably? - Were you already a pastor, or no? 41:50 - Oh, yes. So, I saw them, so my wife and I 41:57 went. We went there, and there's like 40 42:00 people at this house. At John and Millie's 42:03 house. - On a Friday night. - On a Friday night. 42:06 - That's not their original small grow 42:07 group; that's- they just have a meeting 42:09 at their house every Friday night. People 42:11 just show up. - They could not survive without 42:12 meetings. So, it was a blessing. Then you 42:15 know what I've learned? As an Adventist, I 42:18 kind of got away from a few things, you know- 42:20 eating right and different, bad habits 42:24 that you get. Then, I started watching John 42:28 and Millie, then they're teaching about the 42:31 water; never drank enough water, so I've 42:33 started to drink water. I was a little bit overweight. 42:36 My knees started hurting- joints. I could never 42:40 figure- it was just a year ago, and they 42:42 started preaching to me, and I was listening. 42:46 I appreciate that so much about John and 42:49 Millie. It really helped me to realize, "You know, 42:53 I gotta do something." I'm 62 now, so things 42:56 start hurting, you know? With all these lifestyle 42:59 adjustments that I have made, it's been such a 43:03 blessing to me. I feel better now, I can walk 43:06 better, more easily, and it's just been such 43:09 a blessing. One of the biggest things that 43:11 John and Millie really taught was after you 43:15 eat your meal, go for a walk. - Yes. - And it's 43:18 really helped me tremendously and I thank you for that. 43:21 Can I say one more thing about Millie? 43:23 - Absolutely! - We live right down the street, 43:27 and the moment she passed away, we got 43:29 the call. It's about 2:15 in the morning. So 43:33 we went over there, and there's our dear, sweet 43:36 Millie. The nurse came to make the pronouncement. 43:44 She had something in her life that she 43:46 wanted to just- she felt like she can share 43:48 with us. There's about 6 of us standing there, 43:51 and she asked if we would pray for her. 43:54 We gathered around, held her, and all of 43:58 us were crying and praying for her, and 44:01 I thought, "Here's Millie even in her 44:04 death." Even in her death, souls are being 44:09 touched. I'll never forget that. - There 44:12 in our family room, the one corner is for 44:16 the chair where I proposed to Millie 44:19 47 years ago, almost. - Wow. - 7 feet away 44:24 is the bed where she died-place where she 44:28 died. Across the room, just 25 feet is the desk 44:35 where she wrote and studied, but I call it 44:39 my love triangle. - Oh, how precious. 44:41 - Right there in the family room. - Well, 44:44 I'll tell you what- you were a blessed man 44:46 to have her, but she was a very blessed woman 44:49 to have you, too, 'cause you're very 44:52 special. I mean, doesn't take but a 5 44:55 minutes with you to know how very special you 44:57 are. And obviously, you're not a thumper. 45:02 You're not somebody that's saying, "You gotta 45:03 do this, you gotta do that;" you're showing 45:06 the love of Jesus in how it all works 45:11 together, but you practice what you 45:14 preach, don't you? - I try to exercise an hour 45:17 a day. - Well, boy, now you're gonna 45:19 put me to shame. Let me ask you this, because 45:22 for in the few minutes we have left, what is 45:27 the difference? Getting Started is your first 45:30 book, Pressing Forward, and Finishing Strong. So, 45:33 what would you say is the central focus of 45:37 Getting Started? - Well, we start with an 45:41 interview. Somebody's just beginning on their 45:44 health program, and yes, we make sure we're 45:50 on an optimistic viewpoint, so we start with hope. 45:54 Really, a lot of health depends upon 45:58 hope. - Amen! - And that's what's happening 46:00 in Alzheimer's today. People have lost hope. 46:04 They say, "You're going to the grave. You got 46:05 Alzheimer's." It's not true! And you 46:08 gotta give people hope. That's what our son 46:09 Wes is doing. Half of his patients are Alzheimer's 46:14 patients. He's giving them hope, and they're 46:16 recuperating! - Amen. - Book one actually is 46:20 pretty simple concepts to grasp, and well-known 46:26 principles of wellness, so it's not like- it's 46:30 more of a slow start in the Getting Started. 46:34 Chapter 5 is about forgiveness. It's 46:36 amazing how many people don't know that forgiveness 46:40 isn't about the other person; forgiveness is 46:43 about you. And if you can take the gift of 46:47 forgiveness and then give it to someone 46:49 else, YOU are set free. So, that's primarily 46:55 book one. It's the simpler things that, 46:59 although forgiveness can be very difficult, 47:02 but they are concepts that are more well known. 47:05 - It's my favorite chapter, it's of 47:07 forgiveness. - I'm just looking at some of these 47:10 chapters and I love this- "Life Is a Balancing 47:13 Act," "Hope in a Hopeless World," "Just Do It," "The 47:16 Miracle Drug: Sunlight," "A Time of Healing," 47:20 "Forgiveness," "Eating Discoveries," "About the 47:23 Brain: Your Command Center," "Your Fate Is on 47:25 Your Plate," "My Love Journey," "Triumph Over 47:30 Tragedy," "Are You Rich and Don't Know It," 47:32 "Family Time." So, this is a good starting place. 47:36 - It is a good starting point. - All right. Pressing 47:38 forward. - A little bit more difficult to grasp 47:44 some of those; they're a little bit more complex- 47:46 a little bit more involved in your life decisions. 47:50 - Among them is the whole question of genes. 47:54 Many people think, "Well, if I have bad genes, 47:56 it's all through." No! - You can turn on 48:01 and off. - You can turn them on and you 48:03 can turn them off. So, that comes as a liberating 48:07 question to many, many people. So, yes, I 48:11 will die with the same genes I was born with, 48:14 but you can turn them off so they don't 48:18 function, or you can turn them on. Maybe I was 48:21 born with a diabetes gene, but I can turn 48:24 it off and I can live a wholesome life. 48:27 - Okay, Finishing Strong. - Well, that's definitely 48:32 heavy on intentionality. It's about commitment. 48:36 Some of the same topics are reviewed in more 48:39 depth. - I just have to tell the opening 48:44 story of this. The running of the first marathon. 48:49 Pheidippides was part of the Athenian 48:53 army, the Persians had decided they were 48:56 going to take Athens at all costs. So they move 49:02 in and come in 600 boats and they land on the 49:06 plains of marathons, some 25-26 miles from 49:09 Athens. Miltiades is the general. They go 49:12 up to defend their land. Miltiades is 49:16 outnumbered-10-1-and he says, "Pheidippides, 49:19 my runner, run to Sparta and see if these people 49:22 can come and help us." So, Pheidippides runs 49:26 to Sparta, 140 miles, 140 miles back home, 49:31 says, "Sorry, Miltiades, but they can't come till 49:34 you have the new moon. It's their religious 49:37 belief." Well, the war wasn't going to wait 49:41 for the new moon. They attack immediately, and 49:47 God helps them win the battle, and they push 49:51 the Persians back into the ocean. And as they 49:54 see them sailing away, the general looks and 49:57 he says, "Hey, they're sailing south. They're 50:00 sailing toward Athens, and there's nobody in 50:03 Athens to defend the city! All the soldiers 50:06 are here!" He said, "Pheidippides, will you 50:10 run to Athens and tell them we have won the 50:12 victory?" And so, he crosses the mountain there 50:16 behind the plains. I've been there; I've seen 50:20 it. He comes to Athens. You can imagine. He's 50:24 run 280 miles in the last few days, and now, 50:28 life is blurry, he hardly sees the gate as he's 50:31 approaching Athens. And finally, he runs into 50:36 the city, goes to the marketplace. There's 50:38 one of the elders of the city. "Pheidippides, 50:40 what is it?" And as he falls to the earth, 50:44 breathing his last breath, he says, "Rejoice. We 50:49 have conquered." - Amen. - And that's the message: 50:52 "Rejoice; we have conquered," in Jesus! 50:56 We go from defeat to victory; from rejection 51:01 like the thief on the left of the cross to 51:04 acceptance like the thief on the right. And 51:07 that's what he's going to do for you, my 51:09 dear friend! - Amen! Now, we only have 51:12 the minute left, and I want to be sure and 51:16 get the president of the- it's North Colombia 51:22 Union. Tell us this story, because-and 51:26 it's going to have to be quick-in a minute. 51:28 - Pastor Redondo, North Colombia Union, South 51:31 America. He comes and says, "John, we need 51:35 books to run with our small groups." - A 51:39 thousand small groups. - And we hear his- 51:42 Pastor Redondo. And I said, "Okay, we'll 51:45 send you hundreds of copies." We sent them 51:47 to them. He used the WIN Wellness in their 51:50 series in one year, and baptized 14,400 51:55 souls. - My! - And found Christ. - Through 51:58 the WIN Wellness? How do you get 52:02 WIN Wellness, Allen? - And the 1,300 52:04 ballpoints. - Well, we have several ways. We 52:08 have a website (I think that's going to 52:09 come up here in just a moment). - And would 52:12 you tell us what that website is, please? 52:14 - The website will have, of course-we 52:17 have a store with all the materials. - And that's... 52:19 Oh, sorry. www.WINWellness.g. - Org. - Org! Sorry! 52:29 - Let me do your... - I'm sorry! - That's okay! 52:31 So it's WINWellness.org. - Or they can 52:41 contact me at my personal email. It's 52:46 adWINwellness@gmail.com. 52:54 - And we've got the books, you've got 52:56 PowerPoints for the books, you've got... 52:58 - We got the new USB. - That's wonderful. 53:02 All right. - ...That we offer. - Well, what 53:04 we're going to have to do is take a quick 53:05 break to go to the news break, and then we're 53:08 going to come back for a closing thought. |
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