I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Removing pain
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Lord, let my words
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Heal a heart that hurts
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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Hello, I'm Shelley
Quinn, and we welcome
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you once again to
3ABN Today and just want
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to take this opportunity
to thank you for your
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prayers and your
love and your financial
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support of 3ABN,
the Mending Broken
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People Network.
I'm excited about our
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special guests today.
But before I introduce
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them, let me read to
you something that, to
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me, is such a beautiful
promise. It's something
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that Jesus said in
John 17:3. He said, "This
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is eternal life that
they should know You,
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the only true God,
and Jesus Christ whom
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You have sent." Do you
realize eternal life is
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not a list of "dos
and don'ts." Eternal life
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is to have a relationship
with a loving Heavenly
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Father and to know
Him in an intimate way.
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That's the way He
wants to know you. And I
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tell you what! I
think that all three of our
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guests here today
have found that secret, so
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let me introduce you
to our special guests.
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First, we have John
Youngberg. John, we're
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so glad you're with
us today! - Thank you
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so much! I'm so
happy to be here. - And you
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are the co-founder of
WIN Wellness; that's correct?
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- That's right. -
Well, we're going to get back
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to you. You've got
a PhD. He said, "Don't
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bother about calling
me "Doctor." This is a
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man who has spent a
lifetime in service to
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the Lord, and that's
special. Then, we have
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Candice
Hollingsead. Did I say it right?
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- Yes. - Good!
Candice, you're an educator.
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- Yes, I am an
educator. - And what do you do
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with WIN Wellness?
- I actually volunteer
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to help WIN Wellness
and John in the ministry
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one day a week. For
sure, one day a week.
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Sometimes more, and
just do whatever he needs.
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- Praise God. - Including
haul away some brush out
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of his yard.
[laughter] - Praise God. Well,
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we appreciate that
so much. Then, we have
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Pastor Allen Dybdahl.
Boy, I'll tell you- you're
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going to want to
catch this man's testimony
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sometime, because
it's amazing how God is
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using him. But you are
a vice president for WIN
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Wellness. - Correct. -
And kind of the director
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of marketing; is
that correct? - Yes, that
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is correct.
Marketing and sales. - Well, we
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are very pleased to
have the three of you. Before
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we get kicked off
into this story-and boy,
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we got some exciting
stories to share with
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you-first, we have
our very own Tammy Chance
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that's Danny's sister.
I love the way she sings.
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My husband has
already asked her. There's one
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song she sings, he
said, "If I go before
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you, I want you to
sing that at my funeral."
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But Tammy's going to sing for
us, "Because of Who You Are."
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You spoke the words and
all the worlds came into order
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You raised Your hands and
planets filled the empty skies
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You placed a woman and
a man inside the garden
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And though they failed, they
found compassion in Your eyes
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Oh, Lord, I stand
amazed at the wonder of it all
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Yet, a greater
wonder brings me to my knees
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Lord, I praise You
because of who You are
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Not for all the mighty
deeds that You have done
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Lord, I worship You
because of who You are
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It's all the reason that
I need to voice my praise
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Because of who You are
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One holy night, You sent
Your promise from a virgin
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And promise grew till He
revealed to us Your heart
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Endearing love displayed
throughout Your crucifixion
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And through Your death, You
tore the darkened grave apart
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Oh, Lord, I stand
amazed at the wonder of it all
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Yet, a greater
wonder brings me to my knees
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Lord, I praise You
because of who You are
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Not for all the mighty
deeds that You have done
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Lord, I worship You
because of who You are
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You're all the reason
that I need to voice my praise
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Lord, I praise You
because of who You are
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Not for all the mighty
deeds that You have done
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Lord, I worship You
because of who You are
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You're all the reason
that I need to voice my praise
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Because of who You are
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Because of who You are
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Because of who You are
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Amen. The wonder of
it all. What He did for
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us and who He is. We've
thanked Tammy very much.
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Well, if you're
joining us just a moment late,
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we have three very
special guests. John
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Youngberg, Candice
Hollingsead, and Allen
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Dybdahl. We're so
glad each and every one of
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you are here. Before
we kick off, we've got so
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much to say. Can
you give us the Reader's
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Digest version? Just
a little bit about your
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life. Were you born
in a Christian home?
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- I was born in a
Christian home. My
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parents were missionaries
in India. I was born after
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they got back, and
I count it a privilege
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to enter the
ministry. Went 15 years to
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South America as
I minister. Our two
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sons and my first
wife were born in Chile.
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Incidentally, my
oldest son is flying to Chile
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to help a construction
consultant for a few
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days. So, anyhow, my
first wife fell ill with
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glioblastoma and
unfortunately passed
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away. Some time
later, I married Millie. I'm
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sorry to say that I
lost her 7 months ago. - And
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I'm so sorry, John.
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- So, the WIN
Wellness program was organized
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by Millie and me,
and God helped us as we
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carried it to six
continents published
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in 31 languages
around the world. And in just
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one word, it's
about helping people to be
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well in every part of
their lives - not only
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biologically, but
spiritually, in their
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families... It all
works together, and
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that's what we're
about- trying to share with
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the world. - Praise
God. Thank you so much
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for that. Candice, how
about you? Did you also
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grow up in a Christian
home? - Yes, I did grow
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up in a Christian
home! My father was a pastor,
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so we were very
involved in the churches that
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he pastored. - Was he
an Adventist Christian?
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- He was an Adventist
pastor, yes. My husband
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and I have three
children that are grown
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adults (which is
very lovely). I retired,
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and when I retired, I
found myself with little
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to do. So, my husband
said, "Well, why don't
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you join a grow
group?" I looked through the
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catalogue in our church
to- - What is a grow group?
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- A grow group is a
small group of people,
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like a caring group
or a study group that
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get together in a
home and study a specific
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topic. In our
church, there's a variety of
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them- everything from
riding a motorcycle or
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going golfing or
going boating or studying
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health issues. So
I said to my husband,
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"I think I'll join
this John and Millie's
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grow group." - That
was wonderful. - They're
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lovely people! So
I went, and from then
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on, oh my. My life
did change. - Praise God.
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I know that, John,
you said your middle
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name is "Small
Groups," right? [John laughs]
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Thatta boy. I'll tell
ya! - And so, I volunteer-
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I'm sorry. So I
volunteer once a week because I
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think that the
ministry that John and Millie
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have been involved in
is life-changing. - Praise
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God. Praise God. How
about you, Allen? - Well,
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unlike these two, I
did not grow up in a
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Christian home.
My great-grandparents
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were Seventh-Day
Adventist Christians,
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and I remember just
like it was yesterday.
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I would go to their
house probably every
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couple of weeks or
so, and they would always
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tell me, when
Friday night came, that the
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Sabbath is approaching;
"Put your toys away."
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I never forgot that.
But as most people do,
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I just went my way
until I was in my 20s
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and actually heard
about an evangelistic series
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by Kenneth Cox
down in Baton Rouge,
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Louisiana in the
early 80s. I went there and
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was baptized. -
Praise God. - I was very
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interested in
spreading the gospel message, so
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I became a
literature evangelist and I
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served for 16 years as
a literature evangelist
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in different
leadership positions. - He was
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also publishing
director of the Lake
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Union Conference.
- Wonderful. Okay!
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Well now, let's just
talk a little bit about
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WIN Wellness. First of
all, I want to know what
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WIN stands for,
but also, you have a
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unique approach
to health, so tell us
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about that. -
Well, WIN- we all want to
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be winners, don't
we? The WIN is an acronym
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that stands for,
"Wellness Integrating
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Needs." So, we start
with the needs of people-
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the felt needs-and
we move on from there.
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So how does that
affect you in your current
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situation? So, WIN
Wellness. Important
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in that many
people mention health only
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from a biological
standpoint. Our program
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includes family
wellness- that's where we really
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started from-and it
includes a spiritual and mental
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wellness, and
includes biological wellness,
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all working
together. - So, you have Jesus
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at the center...is
basically what your
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approach is, and I
think you've brought
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something to show
on the screen for that,
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that you make
Jesus the center as the
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Healer; is that
correct? - That's right. Jesus
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is the great
Healer; He's in the center,
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and beyond this then
are the various dimensions
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of life which include
mind-spirit, spiritual
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wellness; which include
the body, with biological
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wellness, then
how this is applied in
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relationships: husband-wife
relationships, family
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relationships,
parents and children. - So,
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the synergy of your
approach is that each
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area of our life
affects the other. - That's
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right. And we feel
that health and wellness is
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not just a question
of 8 remedies or this,
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a few... It's
actually a combination of all
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of them, which- shall
I speak about synergy?
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- Sure! - Synergy,
which means the whole
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is greater than the
sum of its parts. Well,
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this is taught in the
Bible. It says, "Five of
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you will chase 100,"
in Leviticus 26, "but
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100 of you will chase
10,000." - Okay, so as
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we're looking at this
graphic, what does this
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graphic tell us? -
It tells us that all of
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these different dimensions
of life, of these factors,
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they blend
together. So, some people say,
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"Well, which is
the most important?" We
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answer with,
chuckle, and say, "Well, when
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you're not practicing,
that's the most important."
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But they all do
something that is more than the
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sum of their individual
contribution. When you
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blend them all
together, things really begin
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to happen in the health
and the spiritual outlook
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of the hope and
longevity. - Yes. Now, as you
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and Millie... How
long were you and Millie
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married? - Millie and
I were married 46 years.
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- 46. I know you're
still going through the
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adjustment, trying
to find a new rhythm to
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life without her and
I'm sorry for your loss,
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but you and Millie
evidently made a really
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dynamic team. - I
run to keep up with
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her. [laughter] -
It's true! - But you had
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an individual that-
she was talking with
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who was not a
Christian, and something really
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interesting
happened. Tell us about that.
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- The momentous moment
in our life, we were in
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Pune, India, and
there we were. We were
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finishing a
seminar. One kind gentleman
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had bought flowers
every night and decorated the
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auditorium, and
we found out he was a
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Hindu, and that
was wonderful. The last
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night, we were
saying goodbye to the people
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and Millie was
praying with one and another,
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and this
gentleman approached one of
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the directors and
said, "Would Millie pray with
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me?" So, the man
came and said to Millie,
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"This gentleman wants
you to pray with him."
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So, she walks over
to where he is and says,
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"Would you like me
to pray for you?" "Yes."
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"And what would you
like me to pray about?"
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We will never
forget the answer. Only two
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words, from a
Hindu which, sometimes,
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people think, "Well,
they're pagans." Well,
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I don't like the
word 'pagan,' but, Hindus-
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wonderful people.
And this Hindu says just
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two words: "More
Jesus." - Woo! - And wow. Almost
00:16:43.37\00:16:48.27
a life-changing two
words. - I think you
00:16:48.34\00:16:52.51
brought a picture of
him. I want to be sure
00:16:52.57\00:16:54.51
to show that picture.
Who's with him in this
00:16:54.58\00:16:59.05
picture? - I'm in
the middle, and the
00:16:59.11\00:17:02.45
gentleman I'm
speaking of is on the right.
00:17:02.55\00:17:04.95
- In the blue. -
And he's a Hindu. Just
00:17:05.05\00:17:09.46
last year, he
was baptized in the
00:17:09.52\00:17:12.66
Seventh-Day
Adventist Church. - Glory! - As
00:17:12.73\00:17:14.96
a Christian. But he-
the big thing for him was
00:17:15.03\00:17:18.27
finding out who
Jesus was and more Jesus.
00:17:18.33\00:17:22.04
- So, I love the
approach that you take, because
00:17:22.10\00:17:25.17
I know you've got
a number of books and
00:17:25.24\00:17:27.64
we'll talk about
them, but you have your WIN
00:17:27.71\00:17:31.48
Wellness- there's...
We'll talk about these
00:17:31.51\00:17:33.68
books in just a
moment, Getting Started,
00:17:33.78\00:17:36.05
Pressing Forward,
Finishing Strong...
00:17:36.15\00:17:38.29
But after your
encounter with this man, and I
00:17:38.39\00:17:43.49
know all of your
books are based on Jesus.
00:17:43.59\00:17:47.10
I love your
approach. - But here, we put it
00:17:47.16\00:17:49.40
all together. We had
a bit of this, bit of
00:17:49.46\00:17:52.50
that in the other
books; but here, we
00:17:52.57\00:17:55.40
started with Jesus
and was all about Jesus.
00:17:55.47\00:17:58.47
- Okay. So this
Hindu... What was his first
00:17:58.57\00:18:00.91
name? Do you remember?
- I'm sorry, I don't know.
00:18:00.98\00:18:03.31
- Okay. He, though,
was the catalyst for
00:18:03.38\00:18:06.18
you and Millie to
write this book. - In our
00:18:06.25\00:18:08.78
thoughts, yes. -
Jesus- Who Is He? Tell us
00:18:08.82\00:18:12.12
about the book. -
Well, the book took two years
00:18:12.19\00:18:15.89
to write. It wasn't
written in a fortnight.
00:18:15.96\00:18:20.66
We wrote it from an
eyewitness standpoint.
00:18:20.73\00:18:25.77
Like, you're there
and you're seeing this
00:18:25.87\00:18:29.67
and somebody who has
been talking to Jesus is
00:18:29.77\00:18:32.91
telling his or her
story of what Jesus did with
00:18:33.01\00:18:36.68
them. So, in the 20
chapters- we've been
00:18:36.75\00:18:41.98
very fortunate. In
those 20 chapters, we have
00:18:42.02\00:18:44.95
them illustrated by
none less than Nathan
00:18:45.02\00:18:48.69
Greene. - We're
going to show one of those
00:18:48.76\00:18:51.66
illustrations in
just a moment when we
00:18:51.73\00:18:53.60
come to that
chapter. - So, anyhow, it's
00:18:53.66\00:18:57.27
changed lives and I
will just tell one very
00:18:57.33\00:19:00.37
brief encounter of
the book with someone
00:19:00.47\00:19:04.67
who needed it. A
lady in hospice hadn't
00:19:04.77\00:19:09.04
eaten for two days,
hadn't slept, and the
00:19:09.11\00:19:15.72
minister came
to-Ellen is her name-and says,
00:19:15.78\00:19:20.49
"You know, I've got a
book here. I'd like to
00:19:20.56\00:19:24.03
read you a chapter
about Jesus. Who is He?"
00:19:24.09\00:19:27.73
She read about
Jesus calming the storm.
00:19:27.80\00:19:31.33
Then, the lady listened
attentively. That night,
00:19:33.00\00:19:39.31
she slept all night
long after that. She says,
00:19:39.41\00:19:43.18
"I know who's in my case-
Who's in my health. It's Jesus.
00:19:43.24\00:19:50.25
He was here with
me." He says the next day,
00:19:50.35\00:19:54.89
she ate a good
breakfast, then her son came to
00:19:54.96\00:19:58.79
visit her, then she
lay down to sleep and
00:19:58.86\00:20:04.23
never woke up. But
she knew who was with
00:20:04.30\00:20:09.50
her in her life was
Jesus. - Who is He to
00:20:09.60\00:20:13.68
you? - Well, I'm a
sinner saved by grace,
00:20:13.71\00:20:18.75
and Jesus is the
most wonderful thing in my
00:20:18.81\00:20:23.62
life. It makes life
worth living; it makes
00:20:23.69\00:20:26.76
it worth getting up
in the morning; it makes
00:20:26.86\00:20:29.62
it worth sharing
with other people. He is
00:20:29.72\00:20:32.29
my best friend. He's
my all in all. - Amen!
00:20:32.33\00:20:36.36
And that's
through many, many years,
00:20:36.40\00:20:39.50
many heartaches, many
valleys, many mountaintops,
00:20:39.57\00:20:44.41
but He never let you
down, did He? - I wrote
00:20:44.47\00:20:48.18
down a list, "God: Who
Is He?" and in that list,
00:20:48.24\00:20:51.95
I have 111
different names of the Holy
00:20:52.01\00:20:56.45
Spirit and about 300
different names of God
00:20:56.52\00:21:00.49
and Jesus. He's all
that to you, dear listener,
00:21:00.56\00:21:06.39
dear watcher, but
He's more than that. He is
00:21:06.43\00:21:10.60
something special in
your life. You can have
00:21:10.67\00:21:13.57
your own names for
Jesus: best Friend,
00:21:13.64\00:21:15.77
wonderful Guide, whatever
it is- all names of Jesus.
00:21:15.84\00:21:20.98
- Amen. Who is He to
you, Candice? - I think
00:21:21.04\00:21:25.15
that the chapters
in this book exemplify
00:21:25.21\00:21:28.25
exactly who He can be
to a person. For example,
00:21:28.32\00:21:33.02
in chapter 8, it
talks about brokenness to
00:21:33.09\00:21:36.56
wholeness, and
it's actually the story
00:21:36.62\00:21:39.23
about the woman at
the well. How many of us
00:21:39.33\00:21:45.13
are broken? We all
are broken, but Jesus can
00:21:45.17\00:21:49.90
lead us to
holiness. That is who Jesus is
00:21:49.97\00:21:54.04
to me and what this
book is. That's probably
00:21:54.11\00:21:56.44
my favorite chapter
in the book, because
00:21:56.51\00:21:59.08
everybody needs Jesus
to bring them to wholeness.
00:21:59.18\00:22:02.75
It's really
important and so glorious when
00:22:02.82\00:22:06.52
He does. There's
another chapter that's about
00:22:06.55\00:22:09.19
being lost and found
and reminds me of who
00:22:09.26\00:22:15.06
Jesus is, that He is
wanting to find everyone.
00:22:15.13\00:22:20.54
Everyone! So, if you
have a child that has
00:22:20.60\00:22:24.17
strayed, the
Bible promises that the
00:22:24.24\00:22:27.08
children will be
restored to their parents. If
00:22:27.14\00:22:29.88
we believe in Jesus,
He will help to restore
00:22:29.94\00:22:33.88
and mend those family
relations. - Amen. And
00:22:33.95\00:22:37.52
praise God that He
does not want anyone
00:22:37.55\00:22:41.02
to perish. - No! He
wants to save everyone!
00:22:41.09\00:22:43.63
Every single
person. So, that brokenness
00:22:43.73\00:22:48.73
to wholeness and
that lost to found are so
00:22:48.76\00:22:51.17
important. That's who
Jesus is. - So, I know
00:22:51.23\00:22:54.17
that the final chapter
is on the Second Coming
00:22:54.24\00:23:00.68
of Jesus Christ.
Now, this is one of the
00:23:00.74\00:23:04.65
illustrations of
Nathan Greene that we wanted
00:23:04.71\00:23:08.32
to show you. It's in
the book because this
00:23:08.35\00:23:10.72
is such an amazing
painting, but there's
00:23:10.79\00:23:14.16
something of real
personal interest to you, John.
00:23:14.19\00:23:19.09
Tell us what. - As
you look at the picture,
00:23:19.16\00:23:21.40
down on the right
over by three people from
00:23:21.46\00:23:24.53
the corner, woman in
her pink sweater, that's
00:23:24.63\00:23:30.07
my own dear
Millie. I'm behind her in a
00:23:30.11\00:23:33.48
light blue. Yes, we
will be waiting for Jesus.
00:23:33.51\00:23:38.85
I thought she might
be among the living;
00:23:38.91\00:23:41.25
she's going to be one
of those who are raised
00:23:41.32\00:23:43.69
from the dead. This
wonderful picture Nathan
00:23:43.79\00:23:46.59
Greene- I think
it's his best. Every one
00:23:46.65\00:23:50.16
of those angels has
a human face, and these
00:23:50.23\00:23:53.33
people- they are
real people. That angel
00:23:53.40\00:23:59.23
who's taking this little
girl over from the grave,
00:23:59.40\00:24:02.74
her mother
receiving this little girl, a
00:24:02.80\00:24:06.14
four-year-old little
girl who caught leukemia
00:24:06.21\00:24:10.15
and was laid in
the grave. That is the
00:24:10.21\00:24:12.85
dress that she was
buried in. We see it
00:24:12.91\00:24:16.08
there, and the parents receiving
her. You, viewer, maybe you
00:24:16.15\00:24:21.12
have some people
who will be there, also,
00:24:21.19\00:24:23.49
when Jesus comes.
That'll be wonderful- when we
00:24:23.56\00:24:28.10
rise up to meet Him
together in the clouds.
00:24:28.13\00:24:31.23
- Oh, amen and
amen. Allen? - Shelley, I
00:24:31.33\00:24:34.20
just can't stand it
any longer. I gotta share,
00:24:34.27\00:24:36.27
especially with
this picture we just saw
00:24:36.37\00:24:38.87
of Nathan Greene's.
One day, I put an ad in the
00:24:38.94\00:24:42.64
paper for a lawn
mower I wanted to sell, and
00:24:42.71\00:24:46.05
this lady responded
and she came. When she got
00:24:46.08\00:24:49.18
there, we talked a
little bit and she said,
00:24:49.22\00:24:50.65
"I don't know why I
drove 50 miles to see
00:24:50.72\00:24:52.95
this lawn mower. I
really didn't need to
00:24:53.02\00:24:54.52
drive that much." So
we talked a little bit.
00:24:54.62\00:24:56.76
She's a member of one
of the largest churches
00:24:56.83\00:24:59.26
in northern
Indiana- Protestant churches.
00:24:59.33\00:25:02.93
So we talked a
little bit, and I said, "I
00:25:03.00\00:25:04.63
got something
before you leave." She did
00:25:04.67\00:25:06.60
buy the lawn mower,
by the way. So I turned
00:25:06.67\00:25:08.60
the book to that
page with Nathan Greene's
00:25:08.70\00:25:11.14
painting on there;
didn't say a word. I
00:25:11.24\00:25:12.74
turn it and handed her
the book, and she said,
00:25:12.84\00:25:16.64
"Do you believe that?"
I said, "Yes, I do believe
00:25:16.71\00:25:20.42
it with all my
heart." She said, "I do, too!"
00:25:20.48\00:25:24.19
She said, "My church
I go to does not teach
00:25:24.25\00:25:26.65
this." - They don't
teach the Second Coming?
00:25:26.72\00:25:29.02
- Neither does the
pastor. - Wow. - And she said,
00:25:29.12\00:25:31.39
"Now, I know why
I drove 50 miles."
00:25:31.46\00:25:34.96
Because of just
showing her the picture. And
00:25:35.06\00:25:38.07
I must add this since
I'm the marketing director:
00:25:38.17\00:25:40.27
I encourage everybody
to have books in their
00:25:40.34\00:25:43.47
homes where they can
share it with whoever
00:25:43.54\00:25:46.11
comes and works on
their house or whatever
00:25:46.17\00:25:48.74
the case may be.
Anybody! I bought 4 cases
00:25:48.84\00:25:52.21
already, so I share
them with everybody I meet.
00:25:52.31\00:25:54.72
I've had some
wonderful experiences. Gotta
00:25:54.78\00:25:57.72
share another one
about that same book, too.
00:25:57.79\00:26:00.39
In the American
College of Lifestyle Medicine-
00:26:00.46\00:26:04.49
every year- we were
in Tucson last year,
00:26:04.59\00:26:10.17
last October, and we
had a nice little brochure
00:26:10.23\00:26:13.80
sitting out there
that showed, "Jesus-Who
00:26:13.87\00:26:15.60
Is He?" and the books,
and I was standing there
00:26:15.67\00:26:18.24
by the booth. A man
came by and he looked
00:26:18.31\00:26:20.54
at the poster, he
looked at me, he looked at the
00:26:20.58\00:26:23.55
poster again... He
goes, "Jesus... Who is He?"
00:26:23.61\00:26:26.68
to me. I'll never
forget. I said, "Brother, He's
00:26:27.72\00:26:34.16
my Savior and He
wants to be yours." And we
00:26:34.22\00:26:37.66
hit it off right
then and we became great
00:26:37.69\00:26:40.33
friends. He probably
calls me once every other
00:26:40.40\00:26:42.70
week. - Really! - He
loves Jesus. I tell you,
00:26:42.76\00:26:47.94
that book will bring
so many people to the
00:26:48.00\00:26:50.17
Lord. I just love
it. - Why do you- I mean,
00:26:50.24\00:26:55.51
that's a huge
statement, to say that this book
00:26:55.54\00:26:59.05
will bring so many
people to the Lord.
00:26:59.15\00:27:00.62
You've got, obviously,
stories, but why do you
00:27:00.68\00:27:04.45
think it is? This is
a simple- I mean, these
00:27:04.55\00:27:08.96
are beautiful
stories; they're simple. Why
00:27:09.02\00:27:10.93
does this touch people
and their heart resonate
00:27:10.99\00:27:17.27
with this book? - John
chapter 12 verse 32 says,
00:27:17.33\00:27:23.97
"And I, if I be
lifted up from the earth
00:27:24.04\00:27:28.24
will draw all
peoples to myself," and I
00:27:28.31\00:27:31.91
believe that. - So this-
- The center of the gospel.
00:27:32.01\00:27:35.22
- It is the center
of the gospel. Without
00:27:35.28\00:27:38.55
Jesus, we don't have
a gospel. - Absolutely.
00:27:38.59\00:27:41.72
- We don't have
any hope at all. One of
00:27:41.79\00:27:45.09
the chapters is
about the resurrection. If
00:27:45.13\00:27:47.56
Jesus didn't rise- if
He didn't die for our sins
00:27:47.63\00:27:50.83
the second death and
then rise, we have nothing!
00:27:50.87\00:27:54.70
We have absolutely
nothing. But because
00:27:54.77\00:27:56.91
He did die on the
cross, He did do the
00:27:56.97\00:27:59.57
second death for
us. He took that for ME
00:27:59.64\00:28:02.14
and for you. We don't
have to die that second
00:28:02.21\00:28:05.91
death! We can
claim His life and be
00:28:06.01\00:28:09.12
resurrected, He is the
life giver! Why wouldn't
00:28:09.18\00:28:12.45
we want that? - I
just have to say for those
00:28:12.55\00:28:16.22
who may be watching
and you're going, "Second
00:28:16.29\00:28:18.79
death... What is
that?" You need to read
00:28:18.86\00:28:21.20
Revelation which
talks about the second death
00:28:21.26\00:28:24.33
twice. That's
when people go into the
00:28:24.43\00:28:30.07
final place where all
sinners will be annihilated
00:28:30.11\00:28:35.28
at the end,
because there are so many
00:28:35.34\00:28:37.81
Christians who
believe you're either going to
00:28:37.88\00:28:40.95
have eternal life in
heaven or you're going
00:28:40.98\00:28:45.19
to have eternal life in
hell, and that's not what the
00:28:45.25\00:28:47.36
Bible teaches! The
Bible teaches Jesus
00:28:47.42\00:28:49.92
said, "For God so
loved the world, He gave His
00:28:50.03\00:28:52.66
only begotten Son
that whosoever believeth
00:28:52.69\00:28:55.70
in Him should not
perish but have everlasting
00:28:55.76\00:28:59.60
life." So, those
are the two things that
00:28:59.67\00:29:03.44
are being
contrasted. What's your favorite
00:29:03.51\00:29:05.91
part of this book? -
Well, I would say the
00:29:05.97\00:29:09.64
chapter on Calvary
and Gethsemane - the two
00:29:09.71\00:29:14.55
key chapters of
the book. What Christ
00:29:14.62\00:29:18.82
suffered in
Calvary. We may not have
00:29:18.85\00:29:22.39
realized- pardon
me. When He suffered in
00:29:22.46\00:29:24.53
Gethsemane, if
after praying three times
00:29:24.59\00:29:28.60
that the cup be
removed if it was the Father's
00:29:28.70\00:29:32.47
will. Then finally,
He said, "But Thy will be
00:29:32.53\00:29:37.47
done." Whatever must
be will be, and I want
00:29:37.54\00:29:42.04
to be- I'm willing to
give my life for these
00:29:42.08\00:29:44.98
people. Then, He fell
to the earth, I think,
00:29:45.01\00:29:49.18
as a dead man. If God
wouldn't have sent the
00:29:49.22\00:29:52.39
angel, Jesus never
would've got to Calvary,
00:29:52.42\00:29:55.09
because He
would've died right there in
00:29:55.12\00:29:57.53
Gethsemane. It's
the greatest decision in
00:29:57.56\00:30:00.43
the history of the
world is that Jesus decided
00:30:00.53\00:30:03.73
that He would die
for you and for me. - And
00:30:03.80\00:30:07.97
would you want to
look- you see these cameras
00:30:08.00\00:30:10.61
over here. When
they've got a little red light,
00:30:10.67\00:30:12.37
if you want to talk
to the audience, that's
00:30:12.44\00:30:14.48
where you look, because
you have got an evangelist's
00:30:14.54\00:30:18.91
heart. There is no
if, ands, or buts about
00:30:18.95\00:30:21.48
it. But Allen, I'd
like you to, for just a
00:30:21.55\00:30:25.05
minute, talk to us.
I know you all brought
00:30:25.12\00:30:27.06
a graphic about the
importance of the cross.
00:30:27.12\00:30:30.29
Explain this graphic
to us. - Well, as it says,
00:30:30.36\00:30:35.43
Christ's death
proved God's great love for
00:30:35.53\00:30:37.83
man. It is our privilege
of salvation. To remove
00:30:37.90\00:30:42.30
the cross from the
Christian would be like blotting
00:30:42.37\00:30:45.27
the sun from the sky.
- What would it be like
00:30:45.34\00:30:50.88
to just live in
darkness- total darkness? No
00:30:50.95\00:30:54.58
morning, no
sunrise- just eternal night.
00:30:54.65\00:30:59.35
That is trying to
have Christianity without a
00:30:59.39\00:31:03.32
cross. - Yes. -
Religion without a Jesus. So,
00:31:03.39\00:31:06.93
that's one of my
favorite statements- just to
00:31:07.03\00:31:11.10
think that Jesus is
the One who brings the
00:31:11.17\00:31:15.87
light into our life,
joy into our hearts...
00:31:15.94\00:31:19.54
And yes, viewer, He
brings joy into YOUR
00:31:19.61\00:31:24.01
heart and life into
your soul. - Amen. Amen.
00:31:24.11\00:31:28.35
Truly, you do have an
evangelist's heart. It
00:31:28.42\00:31:30.69
shows. Your eyes
twinkle when you're talking
00:31:30.72\00:31:34.09
about Jesus. So,
if just for a minute,
00:31:34.16\00:31:39.59
before we kind of
change horses here, tell us
00:31:39.66\00:31:45.20
about the experience
of you and Millie working
00:31:45.23\00:31:48.10
on this together. -
Well, it was life-changing.
00:31:48.17\00:31:53.31
Two whole years... This
didn't happen in a moment.
00:31:55.34\00:31:58.51
Two whole years.
And of course, Millie,
00:31:58.58\00:32:03.05
after I did most of
the writing, she put a lot
00:32:03.12\00:32:07.02
of input into it,
and she said, "Well, it's
00:32:07.09\00:32:10.66
still lacking
something, John." She said, "I'm
00:32:10.69\00:32:13.86
going to write two
more chapters." - I would
00:32:13.93\00:32:16.53
come to their house,
and she'd say, "Okay,
00:32:16.56\00:32:19.77
we have another
chapter," and I'd say, "That's
00:32:19.83\00:32:22.34
enough! That's
enough; stop!" Then I'd come
00:32:22.40\00:32:26.47
the next week. "Oh,
we have another chapter!"
00:32:26.54\00:32:28.31
It was really a time
of joy for them to write
00:32:28.41\00:32:33.11
that book. Each
chapter was incredible. - And
00:32:33.18\00:32:36.89
life-changing. -
What I love... You're very
00:32:36.95\00:32:39.95
smart in the way,
because this is not
00:32:39.99\00:32:42.82
an overpowering
book at all. There's 20
00:32:42.86\00:32:45.16
chapters and
they're relatively short so
00:32:45.19\00:32:47.86
you can sit down
and read one in a decent
00:32:47.90\00:32:53.17
amount of time.
Then you have reflection
00:32:53.23\00:32:56.34
questions afterwards,
because that's what's
00:32:56.44\00:32:59.51
important. As we read
John 17:3, THAT'S what
00:32:59.57\00:33:03.35
eternal life is
all about. This is- we
00:33:03.45\00:33:06.05
have a covenant-keeping
God whose heart it
00:33:06.11\00:33:10.49
is to reveal
Himself to you who wants to
00:33:10.55\00:33:15.76
draw you near to
Him, and He's wooing you
00:33:15.79\00:33:18.56
with His love all
the time. You may not
00:33:18.59\00:33:20.63
recognize it, but
He wants you to know
00:33:20.66\00:33:23.37
Him as He knows
you. So, this is a very
00:33:23.47\00:33:26.97
special book. But I
want to kind of transition
00:33:27.04\00:33:30.94
for a second. This
book... It's interesting to me,
00:33:31.01\00:33:36.04
'cause if somebody
just picked up and read
00:33:36.11\00:33:38.91
this book, they
would think, "Oh, they're
00:33:38.95\00:33:41.62
evangelists." This is
a precious way to look
00:33:41.68\00:33:46.39
at Jesus and come to
know who He is, but you
00:33:46.45\00:33:50.26
said something
so interesting. WIN
00:33:50.33\00:33:54.10
Wellness, you have a
series of three books
00:33:54.16\00:33:57.77
here: book #1, 2, and
3. This is Getting Started,
00:33:57.80\00:34:03.24
On the Path to
Health and Healing, Pressing
00:34:03.30\00:34:06.57
Forward on the Path
to Health and Healing,
00:34:06.64\00:34:10.11
and Finishing Strong
on the Path of Health
00:34:10.18\00:34:13.72
and Healing. But
you said in the very
00:34:13.78\00:34:16.99
beginning, it was
the little Hindu man's
00:34:17.02\00:34:20.92
comment to Millie.
"More Jesus." That's
00:34:20.99\00:34:25.29
what he wanted. You
said that's what brought
00:34:25.33\00:34:28.93
this fourth book,
Jesus- Who Is He? And you
00:34:29.03\00:34:31.77
said it came from
these wellness books. So,
00:34:31.80\00:34:35.20
you've got these
stories then integrated in the
00:34:35.27\00:34:38.97
wellness books? -
Yes. You see, we had Jesus
00:34:39.04\00:34:43.78
in every chapter, but,
you know, a little Jesus
00:34:43.85\00:34:48.05
here, a little
Jesus there, and we said,
00:34:48.08\00:34:50.45
"Hey, we've got to
put this whole thing
00:34:50.52\00:34:52.09
together, because even
if it's nutrition we're
00:34:52.15\00:34:56.83
talking about, we're
talking about Jesus is
00:34:56.86\00:34:58.99
the Bread of Life."
So, Jesus was there,
00:34:59.06\00:35:04.27
but we need to look
at Him in His own right,
00:35:04.33\00:35:07.94
so we start with
Him, front and center, and
00:35:08.00\00:35:11.47
we just dedicated
a book because He is
00:35:11.54\00:35:15.88
the great Healer.
Now, if you're into the
00:35:15.94\00:35:19.25
book ministry
healing- shall I mention that
00:35:19.31\00:35:21.58
now? - Sure! - The
book ministry healing-
00:35:21.65\00:35:23.85
a famous quote
from this book speaks of
00:35:23.92\00:35:29.96
8 natural remedies.
This is on page 127.
00:35:30.03\00:35:33.70
Yes, there are 8
natural remedies that
00:35:33.76\00:35:38.37
are very important,
but the book also has 7
00:35:38.40\00:35:42.90
chapters on the
family! And many people, they
00:35:42.97\00:35:45.61
don't think of the
family when they think
00:35:45.67\00:35:49.18
of healing. But
there are a lot of family
00:35:49.24\00:35:52.65
questions that need
to be also dealt with.
00:35:52.71\00:35:55.88
So there, when we
deal with the family, we
00:35:55.95\00:35:59.65
are dealing with such
subjects as the crisis
00:35:59.72\00:36:05.36
in the family. A healthy
family shows appreciation.
00:36:05.43\00:36:09.86
When I say, "I
appreciate what you do and who
00:36:09.93\00:36:13.30
you are." A healthy
family shows commitment-
00:36:13.37\00:36:17.04
husband to wife,
wife to husband. A healthy
00:36:17.11\00:36:20.54
family spends time
together. There is no
00:36:20.58\00:36:23.38
healthy family
without time that we spend
00:36:23.45\00:36:26.05
together. A healthy
family is one that has
00:36:26.11\00:36:31.32
social support. And
finally, the most important
00:36:31.39\00:36:35.36
of all of them is
love. Really, the key thing
00:36:35.42\00:36:39.73
in these three books,
the key factor is love.
00:36:39.76\00:36:43.80
That's what blends it
all together. It blends
00:36:43.87\00:36:48.60
all of these 21
different factors. There are
00:36:48.64\00:36:52.81
29 chapters,
because some of the chapters
00:36:52.84\00:36:55.91
have to have two
chapters dealing with one factor
00:36:55.94\00:37:00.98
such as love. So,
someone said, "Which
00:37:01.05\00:37:07.22
is the most important
one of all?" "It's the
00:37:07.26\00:37:09.62
one you're not
doing." [Shelley laughs] In
00:37:09.66\00:37:13.06
every chapter of the
book, we start out with a
00:37:13.09\00:37:17.30
gripping story. We
move onto what science says
00:37:17.37\00:37:21.64
on this subject-
recent scientific findings.
00:37:21.70\00:37:25.24
Then we said, "Now
what does the Bible say on
00:37:25.31\00:37:28.64
that same subject?"
So we have: the first I
00:37:28.71\00:37:34.08
is Interest, the
second I is Information, the
00:37:34.15\00:37:39.35
third I is Inspiration!
Then the fourth I is
00:37:39.42\00:37:44.39
Intentionality.
What are you- what am I
00:37:44.46\00:37:48.40
going to do about
it? Now, we're not quite
00:37:48.46\00:37:50.30
that blunt. But in
other words, to say,
00:37:50.37\00:37:52.97
"Well, next week,
when we come back together-
00:37:53.03\00:37:54.97
this week, we're
talking about water! And you
00:37:55.04\00:37:58.54
made your own goals!
Let's see. Did you have
00:37:58.64\00:38:01.04
any goal? Next week,
I'm going to ask you,
00:38:01.08\00:38:03.35
'Have you reached
that goal or done something
00:38:03.45\00:38:06.51
toward that goal
during this week?'" So, they
00:38:06.58\00:38:10.42
share together, and
that is encouraging when
00:38:10.49\00:38:13.29
I find out Candice
says, "Yeah, I drink
00:38:13.36\00:38:16.32
my eight glasses a
day," and Allen says, "I did
00:38:16.39\00:38:20.10
this," then that
brings it to life to see real
00:38:20.16\00:38:25.23
people and not just an
abstract factor out there.
00:38:25.30\00:38:28.44
- So, I have to tell you
a story about a gentleman
00:38:28.54\00:38:30.71
that came to one of
the small groups, and we
00:38:30.81\00:38:33.51
were studying book
one in this 3-book series.
00:38:33.58\00:38:37.41
His name's John
Ehn, and he had gone to
00:38:37.45\00:38:41.52
a wellness seminar
at an Adventist church
00:38:41.55\00:38:45.12
and found out about
the small group studies
00:38:45.22\00:38:48.42
on health and
wellness at John and Millie's
00:38:48.46\00:38:50.33
house. It was
actually the same small group
00:38:50.36\00:38:53.90
that I had joined. He's
not Adventist. He brought-
00:38:53.96\00:38:58.63
he and another friend
named Dale came. As we
00:38:58.70\00:39:04.14
were going, he was
making changes and we would
00:39:04.21\00:39:08.04
press the intentionality
and he'd say, "Oh,
00:39:08.11\00:39:11.01
I'm just making
small steps, just taking
00:39:11.08\00:39:13.25
small steps." Then,
all of a sudden, it was,
00:39:13.31\00:39:16.05
"Well, I gave up
eating pork. I don't think
00:39:16.08\00:39:18.82
that's good, and
I've decided not to drink
00:39:18.85\00:39:20.96
anymore. I don't
think that's good for my
00:39:21.02\00:39:23.39
body." And as we
went, it just got more and
00:39:23.46\00:39:26.56
more serious until
we started to come to
00:39:26.59\00:39:28.80
the end of the 10
weeks. Then, he just
00:39:28.83\00:39:32.80
shocked us all
by saying-'cause we
00:39:32.83\00:39:36.14
were coming to the
end-he said, "Well,
00:39:36.20\00:39:37.81
what are we going to
do next?" I said, "Well,
00:39:37.87\00:39:39.94
I think we have
some time off before we
00:39:40.01\00:39:42.51
start the next grow
group." And he said,
00:39:42.54\00:39:44.35
"Well, I can't do
that!" We said to him, "Dale,
00:39:44.41\00:39:48.28
well then, what do
you want to do?" He said,
00:39:48.35\00:39:50.99
"Well, let's study
the Bible!" - Praise God.
00:39:51.02\00:39:54.42
- So, we just
said, "Well, what do you
00:39:54.49\00:39:55.92
want to study in
the Bible?" He'd tell us
00:39:55.99\00:39:59.73
and we'd make
Bible studies. My husband
00:39:59.79\00:40:02.16
and John and
Millie would make a Bible
00:40:02.23\00:40:03.57
study and then he
and Dale would come, and
00:40:03.63\00:40:06.30
he was baptized
and Dale was baptized!
00:40:06.33\00:40:10.07
And now, Dale's wife
is studying with John,
00:40:10.14\00:40:12.77
as well. This John
went on to host his
00:40:12.84\00:40:15.48
own grow group in another
town. - This John visitor...
00:40:15.54\00:40:19.71
- The one that was
baptized. Yes! It's
00:40:19.98\00:40:22.65
like it multiplies
in this synergy. That is
00:40:22.68\00:40:28.52
just amazing. It's
just miraculous when
00:40:28.59\00:40:30.49
you watch it happening.
- But you know, I think
00:40:30.56\00:40:32.76
that- I have this
saying, that rules
00:40:32.79\00:40:37.80
without relationship
result in rebellion.
00:40:37.87\00:40:42.47
If you grow up
just hearing, "Don't do
00:40:42.54\00:40:45.14
this, don't do
that, don't do this, don't
00:40:45.21\00:40:46.81
do that," it's kind
of like if you don't have
00:40:46.88\00:40:49.34
that relationship
with Jesus, it makes you
00:40:49.41\00:40:52.61
want to rebel. But
what happened here is
00:40:52.68\00:40:55.32
you obviously introduced
him to the great Healer
00:40:55.38\00:40:59.12
and he was
attracted to Jesus, and that's
00:40:59.19\00:41:02.62
where the intentionality-
that's the root of it.
00:41:02.69\00:41:05.53
- And now, he's
out there winning other
00:41:05.59\00:41:06.96
people to Jesus. - Yes,
that's right. - Praise God;
00:41:07.03\00:41:08.96
amen. Allen, how did
you get connected here?
00:41:09.03\00:41:13.54
- Good question. I
live about a block away
00:41:13.60\00:41:17.21
from them. I never
met them up until about 3
00:41:17.24\00:41:20.81
years ago. My wife's
mother worked for them
00:41:20.88\00:41:23.81
as their secretary
years ago, and so I was
00:41:23.85\00:41:27.52
raking leaves in my
yard, and I saw these
00:41:27.58\00:41:30.39
two people come by
(and it was John and
00:41:30.45\00:41:33.09
Millie). - They walk.
- They walk constantly.
00:41:33.15\00:41:36.29
Millie said something
to me and I responded,
00:41:36.32\00:41:39.13
and she invited me
to one of their Friday
00:41:39.19\00:41:41.90
night meetings,
which they've had for how
00:41:41.96\00:41:43.67
many years now, John?
- Forever? - 30 years,
00:41:43.73\00:41:48.14
probably? - Were you
already a pastor, or no?
00:41:48.20\00:41:50.37
- Oh, yes. So, I saw
them, so my wife and I
00:41:50.41\00:41:57.78
went. We went
there, and there's like 40
00:41:57.85\00:42:00.85
people at this
house. At John and Millie's
00:42:00.92\00:42:03.89
house. - On a Friday
night. - On a Friday night.
00:42:03.92\00:42:06.15
- That's not their
original small grow
00:42:06.25\00:42:07.62
group; that's-
they just have a meeting
00:42:07.69\00:42:09.52
at their house
every Friday night. People
00:42:09.56\00:42:11.06
just show up. - They
could not survive without
00:42:11.13\00:42:12.89
meetings. So, it
was a blessing. Then you
00:42:12.96\00:42:15.76
know what I've
learned? As an Adventist, I
00:42:15.83\00:42:18.87
kind of got away from
a few things, you know-
00:42:18.93\00:42:20.44
eating right and
different, bad habits
00:42:20.54\00:42:24.57
that you get. Then,
I started watching John
00:42:24.64\00:42:28.34
and Millie, then
they're teaching about the
00:42:28.41\00:42:31.28
water; never drank
enough water, so I've
00:42:31.35\00:42:33.72
started to drink water. I
was a little bit overweight.
00:42:33.78\00:42:35.68
My knees started
hurting- joints. I could never
00:42:36.65\00:42:40.46
figure- it was just
a year ago, and they
00:42:40.56\00:42:42.89
started preaching to
me, and I was listening.
00:42:42.96\00:42:46.86
I appreciate that
so much about John and
00:42:46.93\00:42:49.86
Millie. It really helped
me to realize, "You know,
00:42:49.90\00:42:53.40
I gotta do something."
I'm 62 now, so things
00:42:53.44\00:42:56.20
start hurting, you
know? With all these lifestyle
00:42:56.30\00:42:59.67
adjustments that I
have made, it's been such a
00:42:59.77\00:43:03.21
blessing to me. I
feel better now, I can walk
00:43:03.28\00:43:06.61
better, more easily,
and it's just been such
00:43:06.68\00:43:09.48
a blessing. One of
the biggest things that
00:43:09.55\00:43:11.42
John and Millie
really taught was after you
00:43:11.49\00:43:14.96
eat your meal, go for
a walk. - Yes. - And it's
00:43:15.02\00:43:18.89
really helped me tremendously
and I thank you for that.
00:43:18.93\00:43:21.80
Can I say one more
thing about Millie?
00:43:21.86\00:43:23.87
- Absolutely! - We
live right down the street,
00:43:23.97\00:43:26.97
and the moment she
passed away, we got
00:43:27.04\00:43:29.44
the call. It's about
2:15 in the morning. So
00:43:29.50\00:43:33.17
we went over there,
and there's our dear, sweet
00:43:33.21\00:43:36.61
Millie. The nurse came
to make the pronouncement.
00:43:36.64\00:43:40.88
She had something
in her life that she
00:43:44.39\00:43:45.95
wanted to just- she
felt like she can share
00:43:46.02\00:43:48.62
with us. There's about
6 of us standing there,
00:43:48.69\00:43:51.13
and she asked if
we would pray for her.
00:43:51.19\00:43:54.13
We gathered around,
held her, and all of
00:43:54.20\00:43:58.57
us were crying and
praying for her, and
00:43:58.63\00:44:01.40
I thought,
"Here's Millie even in her
00:44:01.47\00:44:04.21
death." Even in her
death, souls are being
00:44:04.24\00:44:09.41
touched. I'll never
forget that. - There
00:44:09.48\00:44:12.68
in our family room,
the one corner is for
00:44:12.75\00:44:16.52
the chair where I
proposed to Millie
00:44:16.58\00:44:19.45
47 years ago,
almost. - Wow. - 7 feet away
00:44:19.52\00:44:24.69
is the bed where
she died-place where she
00:44:24.73\00:44:28.53
died. Across the room,
just 25 feet is the desk
00:44:28.60\00:44:35.34
where she wrote and
studied, but I call it
00:44:35.40\00:44:39.04
my love triangle.
- Oh, how precious.
00:44:39.11\00:44:41.74
- Right there in
the family room. - Well,
00:44:41.78\00:44:44.05
I'll tell you what-
you were a blessed man
00:44:44.11\00:44:46.48
to have her, but she
was a very blessed woman
00:44:46.51\00:44:49.85
to have you, too,
'cause you're very
00:44:49.92\00:44:52.09
special. I mean,
doesn't take but a 5
00:44:52.12\00:44:55.16
minutes with you to
know how very special you
00:44:55.22\00:44:57.49
are. And obviously,
you're not a thumper.
00:44:57.59\00:45:02.13
You're not somebody
that's saying, "You gotta
00:45:02.16\00:45:03.77
do this, you gotta
do that;" you're showing
00:45:03.83\00:45:06.20
the love of Jesus
in how it all works
00:45:06.27\00:45:11.14
together, but
you practice what you
00:45:11.21\00:45:14.28
preach, don't you? - I
try to exercise an hour
00:45:14.34\00:45:17.41
a day. - Well,
boy, now you're gonna
00:45:17.48\00:45:19.51
put me to shame. Let
me ask you this, because
00:45:19.55\00:45:22.85
for in the few
minutes we have left, what is
00:45:22.92\00:45:27.36
the difference?
Getting Started is your first
00:45:27.39\00:45:30.29
book, Pressing Forward,
and Finishing Strong. So,
00:45:30.43\00:45:33.66
what would you say
is the central focus of
00:45:33.73\00:45:37.80
Getting Started? -
Well, we start with an
00:45:37.87\00:45:41.37
interview. Somebody's
just beginning on their
00:45:41.40\00:45:44.37
health program, and
yes, we make sure we're
00:45:44.47\00:45:49.98
on an optimistic viewpoint,
so we start with hope.
00:45:50.08\00:45:54.75
Really, a lot of
health depends upon
00:45:54.85\00:45:58.19
hope. - Amen! - And
that's what's happening
00:45:58.22\00:46:00.82
in Alzheimer's today.
People have lost hope.
00:46:00.89\00:46:03.93
They say, "You're
going to the grave. You got
00:46:04.03\00:46:05.66
Alzheimer's."
It's not true! And you
00:46:05.69\00:46:08.13
gotta give people
hope. That's what our son
00:46:08.23\00:46:09.80
Wes is doing. Half of
his patients are Alzheimer's
00:46:09.86\00:46:13.97
patients. He's giving
them hope, and they're
00:46:14.04\00:46:16.24
recuperating! - Amen.
- Book one actually is
00:46:16.34\00:46:20.18
pretty simple concepts
to grasp, and well-known
00:46:20.24\00:46:25.08
principles of
wellness, so it's not like- it's
00:46:26.11\00:46:30.02
more of a slow start
in the Getting Started.
00:46:30.09\00:46:34.39
Chapter 5 is
about forgiveness. It's
00:46:34.46\00:46:36.93
amazing how many people
don't know that forgiveness
00:46:36.99\00:46:40.50
isn't about the other
person; forgiveness is
00:46:40.56\00:46:43.83
about you. And if
you can take the gift of
00:46:43.93\00:46:47.30
forgiveness and
then give it to someone
00:46:47.37\00:46:49.67
else, YOU are set
free. So, that's primarily
00:46:49.74\00:46:55.44
book one. It's the
simpler things that,
00:46:55.54\00:46:59.51
although forgiveness
can be very difficult,
00:46:59.58\00:47:02.85
but they are concepts
that are more well known.
00:47:02.95\00:47:05.62
- It's my
favorite chapter, it's of
00:47:05.69\00:47:07.02
forgiveness. - I'm just
looking at some of these
00:47:07.06\00:47:10.49
chapters and I love
this- "Life Is a Balancing
00:47:10.56\00:47:13.70
Act," "Hope in a Hopeless
World," "Just Do It," "The
00:47:13.80\00:47:16.67
Miracle Drug:
Sunlight," "A Time of Healing,"
00:47:16.70\00:47:20.47
"Forgiveness," "Eating
Discoveries," "About the
00:47:20.54\00:47:23.24
Brain: Your Command
Center," "Your Fate Is on
00:47:23.30\00:47:25.87
Your Plate," "My Love
Journey," "Triumph Over
00:47:25.94\00:47:30.05
Tragedy," "Are You
Rich and Don't Know It,"
00:47:30.11\00:47:32.45
"Family Time." So, this
is a good starting place.
00:47:32.51\00:47:36.72
- It is a good starting
point. - All right. Pressing
00:47:36.79\00:47:38.89
forward. - A little
bit more difficult to grasp
00:47:38.95\00:47:43.93
some of those; they're
a little bit more complex-
00:47:44.03\00:47:46.23
a little bit more
involved in your life decisions.
00:47:46.33\00:47:50.03
- Among them is the
whole question of genes.
00:47:50.10\00:47:53.20
Many people think,
"Well, if I have bad genes,
00:47:54.24\00:47:56.60
it's all through."
No! - You can turn on
00:47:56.67\00:48:00.94
and off. - You can
turn them on and you
00:48:01.04\00:48:02.94
can turn them off. So,
that comes as a liberating
00:48:03.04\00:48:06.92
question to many,
many people. So, yes, I
00:48:07.02\00:48:11.69
will die with the
same genes I was born with,
00:48:11.79\00:48:14.59
but you can turn
them off so they don't
00:48:14.66\00:48:18.33
function, or you can
turn them on. Maybe I was
00:48:18.39\00:48:21.43
born with a
diabetes gene, but I can turn
00:48:21.50\00:48:24.10
it off and I can
live a wholesome life.
00:48:24.20\00:48:27.90
- Okay, Finishing Strong.
- Well, that's definitely
00:48:27.94\00:48:32.87
heavy on intentionality.
It's about commitment.
00:48:32.97\00:48:36.75
Some of the same
topics are reviewed in more
00:48:36.78\00:48:39.75
depth. - I just
have to tell the opening
00:48:39.85\00:48:44.25
story of this. The
running of the first marathon.
00:48:44.32\00:48:49.32
Pheidippides was
part of the Athenian
00:48:49.99\00:48:53.23
army, the Persians
had decided they were
00:48:53.33\00:48:56.56
going to take Athens
at all costs. So they move
00:48:56.63\00:49:02.04
in and come in 600
boats and they land on the
00:49:02.14\00:49:05.91
plains of marathons,
some 25-26 miles from
00:49:06.01\00:49:09.18
Athens. Miltiades
is the general. They go
00:49:09.28\00:49:12.71
up to defend
their land. Miltiades is
00:49:12.78\00:49:16.28
outnumbered-10-1-and
he says, "Pheidippides,
00:49:16.35\00:49:19.72
my runner, run to
Sparta and see if these people
00:49:19.79\00:49:22.62
can come and help
us." So, Pheidippides runs
00:49:22.66\00:49:26.19
to Sparta, 140
miles, 140 miles back home,
00:49:26.23\00:49:31.07
says, "Sorry, Miltiades,
but they can't come till
00:49:31.13\00:49:34.87
you have the new
moon. It's their religious
00:49:34.97\00:49:37.91
belief." Well, the
war wasn't going to wait
00:49:37.97\00:49:41.14
for the new moon. They
attack immediately, and
00:49:41.21\00:49:47.88
God helps them win
the battle, and they push
00:49:47.98\00:49:51.15
the Persians back
into the ocean. And as they
00:49:51.22\00:49:54.62
see them sailing
away, the general looks and
00:49:54.69\00:49:57.23
he says, "Hey,
they're sailing south. They're
00:49:57.29\00:50:00.80
sailing toward
Athens, and there's nobody in
00:50:00.86\00:50:03.53
Athens to defend the
city! All the soldiers
00:50:03.60\00:50:06.70
are here!" He said,
"Pheidippides, will you
00:50:06.74\00:50:10.27
run to Athens and
tell them we have won the
00:50:10.31\00:50:12.77
victory?" And so, he
crosses the mountain there
00:50:12.84\00:50:16.75
behind the plains.
I've been there; I've seen
00:50:16.81\00:50:19.91
it. He comes to
Athens. You can imagine. He's
00:50:20.02\00:50:24.35
run 280 miles in the
last few days, and now,
00:50:24.42\00:50:28.26
life is blurry, he
hardly sees the gate as he's
00:50:28.32\00:50:31.89
approaching Athens.
And finally, he runs into
00:50:31.93\00:50:36.06
the city, goes to
the marketplace. There's
00:50:36.13\00:50:38.43
one of the elders of
the city. "Pheidippides,
00:50:38.47\00:50:40.60
what is it?" And as
he falls to the earth,
00:50:40.67\00:50:44.67
breathing his last
breath, he says, "Rejoice. We
00:50:44.77\00:50:49.61
have conquered." - Amen.
- And that's the message:
00:50:49.68\00:50:52.65
"Rejoice; we have
conquered," in Jesus!
00:50:52.71\00:50:56.25
We go from defeat to
victory; from rejection
00:50:56.69\00:51:01.42
like the thief on
the left of the cross to
00:51:01.52\00:51:04.43
acceptance like the
thief on the right. And
00:51:04.53\00:51:07.60
that's what he's
going to do for you, my
00:51:07.66\00:51:09.80
dear friend! -
Amen! Now, we only have
00:51:09.86\00:51:12.63
the minute left, and
I want to be sure and
00:51:12.67\00:51:16.10
get the president of
the- it's North Colombia
00:51:16.17\00:51:22.81
Union. Tell us
this story, because-and
00:51:22.91\00:51:26.92
it's going to have
to be quick-in a minute.
00:51:26.98\00:51:28.88
- Pastor Redondo,
North Colombia Union, South
00:51:28.98\00:51:31.92
America. He comes
and says, "John, we need
00:51:31.99\00:51:34.92
books to run with
our small groups." - A
00:51:35.02\00:51:39.59
thousand small
groups. - And we hear his-
00:51:39.69\00:51:42.36
Pastor Redondo. And
I said, "Okay, we'll
00:51:42.43\00:51:45.10
send you hundreds of
copies." We sent them
00:51:45.17\00:51:47.14
to them. He used the
WIN Wellness in their
00:51:47.20\00:51:50.44
series in one
year, and baptized 14,400
00:51:50.54\00:51:55.84
souls. - My! - And
found Christ. - Through
00:51:55.91\00:51:58.88
the WIN Wellness? How do you get
00:51:58.95\00:52:02.15
WIN Wellness,
Allen? - And the 1,300
00:52:02.22\00:52:04.75
ballpoints. - Well,
we have several ways. We
00:52:04.85\00:52:07.99
have a website (I
think that's going to
00:52:08.06\00:52:09.76
come up here in just
a moment). - And would
00:52:09.82\00:52:12.63
you tell us what
that website is, please?
00:52:12.69\00:52:14.46
- The website
will have, of course-we
00:52:14.53\00:52:17.00
have a store with all the
materials. - And that's...
00:52:17.07\00:52:19.43
Oh, sorry. www.WINWellness.g.
- Org. - Org! Sorry!
00:52:19.53\00:52:28.98
- Let me do your... -
I'm sorry! - That's okay!
00:52:29.04\00:52:31.81
So it's
WINWellness.org. - Or they can
00:52:31.88\00:52:41.82
contact me at my
personal email. It's
00:52:41.92\00:52:46.26
adWINwellness@gmail.com.
00:52:46.33\00:52:54.60
- And we've got
the books, you've got
00:52:54.67\00:52:56.17
PowerPoints for the
books, you've got...
00:52:56.24\00:52:58.74
- We got the new
USB. - That's wonderful.
00:52:58.81\00:53:02.04
All right. - ...That
we offer. - Well, what
00:53:02.11\00:53:03.98
we're going to have
to do is take a quick
00:53:04.05\00:53:05.85
break to go to the
news break, and then we're
00:53:05.91\00:53:08.68
going to come back
for a closing thought.
00:53:08.75\00:53:10.69