I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Removing pain
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Lord, let my words
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Heal a heart that hurts
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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Hello, and welcome to
another 3ABN Today Program.
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I'm Jill Morikone
and we are so glad
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that you have taken time
from your day to spend with us.
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We just want to thank you,
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I want to thank you for
your prayers, your love,
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your financial support
of the Ministry of 3ABN.
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To me, 3ABN is presenting
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the undiluted
Three Angels' Messages,
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one that would
counteract the counterfeit
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to a lost and dying world.
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You know, there's
many people who are broken,
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people who are alone,
people who are hurting,
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and don't know Jesus.
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Have not somehow found His face,
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don't know the
truth in His Word.
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And today,
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we have an
incredible woman of God.
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A woman who I
consider as my sister in Jesus.
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She's a precious woman
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and she has an
amazing testimony.
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God brought her,
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you could say out of darkness
into this marvelous light.
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God introduced her to Himself
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and she accepted
Him as her Savior.
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She found the truth in
His Word and all of this
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not that it began with this
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because it's the goodness of God
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that leads any
of us to repentance,
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so we know it began
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with a drawing
of the Holy Spirit.
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But 3ABN played a vital role,
a vital part in her journey,
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in her testimony.
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We want to talk
about that today.
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I'm speaking of
Laura Sommerfield,
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my precious sister in Jesus.
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And, Laura, we're
so glad you're here.
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Thank you. Glad to be here.
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So I know we're going
to spend this whole time
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unpacking your testimony.
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And you're going to share
what God, where you came from,
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and where you are now.
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We could say before
Jesus and after Jesus.
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What God's doing in your life,
but take us back to, Laura,
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when you were growing up?
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Okay.
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I grew up Methodist and
when I got out of my own,
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I didn't attend church.
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So for nine years,
I didn't go to church.
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I wasn't
particularly close to God.
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I had never really,
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that seemed like
something that was way far away.
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So I didn't, I was
kind of indifferent.
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And I was also very, very shy
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and scared to go
to church by myself.
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And so that was part of it.
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And so I used to, I
remember I would pray,
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I had a difficult time in school
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when I was growing up.
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And why do you
have a difficult time?
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Well, in my junior
high and high school years,
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I was bullied a
lot and the other kids,
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there was kids that
went around the school
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telling that me and
another girl were lesbians,
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and which was not true at all.
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She was a girl I'd met,
she was new to the school,
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and she was the
sister I never had.
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And we had a
great time together.
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So she was a good friend?
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A good friend.
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And somehow the
students twisted that?
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Yes.
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And so they were putting
notes up on the bulletin board,
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you know, that we're
lesbians and so forth and...
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On the bulletin board?
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Yeah, of the school.
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And they had all the
kids believing it was true.
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And in between
classes, they would, you know,
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bully us what bullies do,
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push you down
and point and laugh
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and everybody hated us.
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And it was a really hard time,
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I couldn't
concentrate on my schoolwork.
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And so this one guy was
telling me how ugly I was.
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And he punched me in my stomach.
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And I was, I didn't pass out,
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but I couldn't get my
breath for several seconds,
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but seemed like minutes.
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And so I just
couldn't adapt to life
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and I remember lying in my
bed at night crying to God.
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So I believed in God apparently,
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'cause I cried to Him
to take me away from earth
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because it was too painful.
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And so... I'm so sorry.
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It was just a kind of carried on
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when I went on my own then,
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I was very shy
because afraid of what,
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you know, people thought of me.
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And I got to wear...
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When I started
working, I got to wear,
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I would do whatever I
had to do to feel loved.
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And so...
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So this is maybe a
lot of relationships
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with other men?
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Yeah, a lot of relationships.
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And, you know,
just to feel loved.
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I just wanted to feel
loved, I remember that.
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Can I take you back
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just for a
moment to the bullying.
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So it made you feel isolated?
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Yes.
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It was tough to
go class to class.
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And because we knew
things were going to happen,
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they would throw gum
in our hair and so forth.
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So you were
afraid, you were isolated,
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you had low self-esteem?
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Very low self-esteem.
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And I was depressed and I just,
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I don't know if
suicide's the right word,
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I didn't want to kill myself,
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but I wanted to be
taken away from earth.
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And I begged and
begged God to take me.
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So what did you think about God?
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Did you see God
as a loving Father,
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as someone that
you wanted to be,
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you know, with or
was He seemed distant
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and like a bully too?
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He didn't seem like a bully,
but He seemed parental like,
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He wouldn't understand either,
like none of the other adults.
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You know, because the
teachers believed the kids.
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And one teacher
went to my parents
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and told them that
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I shouldn't go
around with this girl
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and she was bad for me.
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And so I was told
not to see her anymore.
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So that was the
only friend I had left
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that I wasn't allowed to see.
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And they split us up.
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We were in, each
grade was in three sections
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and they put her
in a different section
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so I wouldn't see her anymore.
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So then you reached adulthood...
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Then I reached adulthood.
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And then there is still
this pain from the past,
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so you're seeking
other relationships with men
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to fill that brokenness inside?
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Yes, it continued on.
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Whenever I went places, it
seems like guys were cruel.
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I don't know,
they would make fun
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and it just continued on.
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And doctors
took advantage of me.
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And I just
couldn't get a hold of life.
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I just...
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I would have relationships
and they'd get broken.
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And so I was always sad.
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And I didn't live a
very good Christian life
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because I did what I
had to do to get loved
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and never told my parents
because they were strict.
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And I was afraid of
getting in more trouble
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at home.
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So I never told
anybody anything that went on.
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So then, I know
you're married now.
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But what stage did you
meet and marry your husband Tom?
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I was actually 28 years
old when I got married to him.
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I met him
through a mutual friend.
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He was going to college.
And I met him through her.
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And we seem to
hit it off right away.
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And he was funny.
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The thing I liked
about him the most
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was he wanted to take me
to the zoo and to dinner,
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he wasn't after
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what all the
other guys were after.
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And he loved me for
me. Oh, that's precious.
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So that's...
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Then we got married
and he's Catholic...
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And you were Methodist
before? And I was Methodist.
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But I promised him
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I would switch over to Catholic.
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And we wanted to get married
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before that could happen though.
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So a year after we got
married, I became Catholic.
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And so I was
Catholic for about 34 years.
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And there's still even
though you're Catholic,
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and you're married to a
man who loved you for you,
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there was still some sort
of brokenness and pain inside.
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So let's stop the
story the moment there.
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Okay.
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I want to read
a scripture. Okay.
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When I think of this scripture,
Laura, I think of you.
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Okay.
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And then we're
going to go to a song
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and then we're going to find
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what redemption and healing
God brought into your life.
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This is
Zephaniah 3:14-17 saying,
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"Sing, O, Daughter
of Zion..." That's you.
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"Shout, O Israel.
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Be glad and rejoice
with all your heart,
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O, Daughter of Jerusalem.
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The Lord has taken
away your judgments.
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I think the Lord has
taken away your pain.
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The Lord has taken away
what Satan did in the past.
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He has cast out your
enemy, the king of Israel,
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the Lord is in your midst,
you shall see disaster no more.
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In that day, it
should be said to Jerusalem."
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We could say, in that
day, it will be said to Laura.
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"Do not fear, let
not your hands be weak,
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the Lord your God in your midst,
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the Mighty One will safe,
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He will rejoice
over you with gladness.
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He will quiet you with His love.
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He will rejoice
over you with singing."
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So when God looks at
you, and when we look at you,
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we see a woman that God loves,
a woman that God has redeemed,
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and He rejoices over you.
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He's taken away
that pain from the past
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and that life before Jesus,
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and He's replaced
it with His grace,
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and with His
goodness, and with His blood.
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Yes.
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That's the story of redemption
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that we're going to hear
what God did in Laura's life.
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But first we're
going to go to a song.
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We have John Stoddart with us.
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I love his ministry and music.
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He's a fabulous
pianist and singer.
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And he will be ministering
a song, "I turn to you."
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What can I say?
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Tell me where to begin
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How to explain
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How I've been changed within
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Amazing grace
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Caught me in time
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Gave me new life
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Now it's to You
that I run Jesus,
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I turn to You And
in all I go through
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Give You praise
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I turn to You Lord,
the things that You do
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I'm amazed
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Lord, You are the joy
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I will never comprehend
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Water of life,
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I'll never thirst again
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So when my life presses me down
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I'll just hold on
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And it's to You
that I run Jesus,
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I turn to You And
in all I go through
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Give You praise
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I turn to You Lord,
the things that You do
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I'm amazed, I'm amazed
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I turn to you and
in all I go through
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Give You praise
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I turn to You Lord,
the things that You do
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I'm amazed
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You're worthy
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Of all the glory
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You reign in majesty
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Dominion and power
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You are more
than the world to me
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To me I turn to You
and in all I go through
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Give You praise
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Oh, I turn to You
Lord, the things that You do
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I'm amazed I'm amazed
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Lord, I turn to You
And in all I go through
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Give You praise Give You praise
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Lord, You're worthy all along
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I turn to You
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Lord, the things that You do
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I'm amazed
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Oh, I'm amazed
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Lord, I turn to You
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Turn to You, turn to You
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For the questions of
life For the questions of life
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Lord, I turn to You
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Turn to You, turn to You
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When I don't have
any place else to go
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Lord, that's when I turn to You
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Turn to You, turn to You
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Oh, Lord, I turn
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Lord, I turn to You
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Turn to You, turn to You
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I turn to You and
in all I go through
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Give You praise
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I turn to You
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Lord, the things that You do
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I'm amazed
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Oh, Lord, I turn to You
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Amen.
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What an incredible song
exactly for this program.
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To me it's like God
handpicked it, Laura.
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You know, I turn to You,
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and in all I go through
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I can still give You praise
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And that's why Laura's
here today to encourage you
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at home no matter
what you've been through.
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And it could be
painful like some of the things
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she went through in her past
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and yet God has
redeemed, and justified,
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and is in the
process of sanctifying
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as He must do
with each one of us.
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So, Laura, we're so
excited that you're here.
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And you were telling us before
we went to the music about
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being bullied as
a child growing up,
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and how the pain
in that led you to,
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you could say look for
love in all the wrong places,
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just wanting to be loved.
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And then let's
fast forward to 2016.
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So this is a few
years down the road
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and then you had
converted to Catholicism
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when you married
your husband Tom.
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And then one day
you were channel surfing
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or how did that happen?
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I was home
recuperating from a surgery
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and I don't know why I
was drawn to watch 3ABN.
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But I already knew I
was going to watch it
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before I turn the TV on.
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Because I had seen
it when he was surfing
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and I've always been curious
and wanted to listen to it.
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But so that was my chance.
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And so I listened to
it and it was a great day,
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I listened to
pastor, after pastor,
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after pastor on Proclaim.
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And there was one Pastor
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Lonnie Melashenko
with Voice of Prophecy,
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he was director,
speaker at the time.
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And he had a sermon on
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called what
happens when you die?
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And I had just lost my
mother a year before then
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and I was always told that,
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you know, when we die
we go straight to heaven,
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and we're with our
loved ones in spirit,
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and watching over
them, and praying for them.
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Okay.
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So I believed that
my mom was doing that.
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And there was incidents
that happened that I thought
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was her like an antique
lamp of hers that came on
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and off by itself.
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And I thought it was
her letting me know...
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And you never flipped
it on or off, it just...?
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No, I was across the room
and it came on and went off.
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And there was
two bulbs in the lamp
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and one bulb
did not work at all,
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the other one worked.
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And the one that came on
was the one that doesn't work.
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And so I was sure it was mom
telling me she got to heaven,
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okay.
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And so...
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And your mom died
just before 2016 or...?
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Yes, she died in exactly a year
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in from when I had
been watching 3ABN.
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So you were in your mind
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somehow maybe that
was comforting thinking,
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"Well, my mom's in heaven
and she's watching over me."
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And yet I'm thinking,
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this is a
spiritualistic manifestation
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but you didn't
realize it at the time.
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No, I didn't.
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So I was watching...
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That's what got me interested
in the sermon and he was,
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Pastor Lonnie was saying,
of course, that you're asleep,
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that you don't go to heaven,
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and you can't
communicate with other people
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because you're asleep.
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And I was just taken by that.
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And it kind of hurt
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because it was
making me go through the,
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you know, the sadness of
losing her all over again,
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the grieving.
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And I'm like, "Yes,
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don't tell me she's
not with me, you know."
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And so I went on to listen
to other sermons that day.
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So were you were a
little mad or just hurt?
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I was hurt at the time.
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Okay.
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But then they played
it again a few weeks later
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and I heard it again.
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And then I was getting
mad, I was like, "Okay."
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And so I
actually wrote him and...
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You emailed him?
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Yeah, I looked up his website,
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and sent an
email to the website,
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and they in turn
forward it on to him.
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So then he actually
replied to me directly.
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And I told him that,
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you know, my mother
had passed on and told him
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that I didn't really
appreciate him saying that,
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you know, she's not with me.
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That's she's
resting in the grave
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and she's asleep
until Jesus comes.
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Yeah.
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And he asked if he could send me
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his sermons for me to listen to,
00:21:05.53\00:21:08.80
there was 26 of
them and he wanted me
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to listen to them
in consecutive order
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and instead of
hit and miss on TV.
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And so I said, "Okay,"
so he did mail them to me.
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Now this is the
Voice of Prophecy speaks.
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Yes.
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It's like a whole
series that he did.
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Yes.
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I know we've aired it
for years on Proclaim.
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And I know it's been a blessing
and ministered to many people.
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So he sent you the
entire, it was on DVD series?
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Yes. Well, no, I'm sorry.
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It was on...
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VHS. VHS tapes.
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Okay, yes.
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But I actually have a player
and so I was able to play 'em.
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So do you start at the beginning
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and watch them all or?
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I watched the first
one which was Armageddon
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and which was good.
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And, but then the
next one was starting to...
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The next one was
about the Sabbath.
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And I thought I was
going to learn about death,
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right, first thing.
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And instead
Sabbath was coming on.
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And it was saying that Sabbath
is on Saturday, not on Sunday.
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And I'm like, wow,
that drew my attention.
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And...
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Did that make you mad too?
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Not yet, because I just...
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Well, hadn't heard enough yet.
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Okay.
00:22:24.31\00:22:25.64
And so I listened some more.
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And, of course,
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he's always giving scripture
to back up what he's saying.
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And so I was taking notes,
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the whole time I
was playing these,
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I was sitting
there taking notes.
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And when he got to the part
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where it happened
with the early church,
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and the Catholic
admits that they did it.
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I was like in shock.
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I wasn't mad yet.
I was just in shock.
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And I was wondering,
00:22:52.90\00:22:54.24
how am I going
to tell this to Tom.
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And I just was amazed.
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And so I went on and
listened to more tapes.
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So I just want to
interrupt for one moment.
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So we neglected to
mention this before,
00:23:06.92\00:23:09.52
but you were not only
Catholic and, of course,
00:23:09.55\00:23:11.89
married to your
husband who was Catholic.
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At this time you are
working for a priest.
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Yes. I'm a
secretariat at Catholic Church,
00:23:15.66\00:23:19.56
and working for a priest.
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So you're well immersed
00:23:21.20\00:23:22.56
we could say in
the Catholic Church.
00:23:22.60\00:23:24.00
And here you're reading that
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and learning that
the Catholic Church
00:23:25.57\00:23:27.90
has something to
do with the change
00:23:27.94\00:23:29.67
from Sabbath to Sunday.
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And yet you're
working for a priest.
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Right. Okay.
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And I was kind of
curious about some of this.
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And I actually asked my priest
why we have church on Sunday
00:23:41.52\00:23:48.32
instead of Saturday.
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And he told me
00:23:49.86\00:23:52.79
that it was they
celebrate the resurrection.
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Yes.
00:23:55.96\00:23:57.30
And I said,
00:23:57.33\00:23:58.67
but we're not
keeping the commandment
00:23:58.70\00:24:00.77
when we do that.
00:24:00.80\00:24:02.30
And he said, "Yes, we are."
00:24:02.34\00:24:04.47
And I said, "No,
we're not going on Saturday,
00:24:04.51\00:24:07.31
and Saturday is the Sabbath."
00:24:07.34\00:24:09.58
And he said, "We're keeping it,"
00:24:09.61\00:24:11.85
and he walked away.
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Okay.
00:24:13.82\00:24:15.15
So then there was
every once in a while,
00:24:15.18\00:24:19.35
I would find an opening
00:24:19.39\00:24:20.92
where I could ask him something.
00:24:20.96\00:24:22.69
And one time,
00:24:22.72\00:24:25.29
he was wearing a special robe
00:24:25.33\00:24:27.06
that had some
picture on the front of it.
00:24:27.10\00:24:30.97
And I didn't
understand the picture.
00:24:31.00\00:24:36.67
And so I had asked him about it.
00:24:36.71\00:24:39.27
And it was a picture of Jesus
00:24:39.31\00:24:43.01
I believe it is
with but only one eye.
00:24:43.04\00:24:46.92
And He was turned
kind of sideways on it.
00:24:46.95\00:24:51.15
And I was asking
the meaning of that
00:24:51.19\00:24:55.29
and He told me
00:24:55.32\00:24:58.39
but I don't even
remember what he said,
00:24:58.43\00:25:00.53
I just remember that
we didn't agree on it
00:25:00.56\00:25:04.27
'cause I thought I was
seeing a second eye too.
00:25:04.30\00:25:07.70
I thought that I was seeing
in a different way than he was.
00:25:07.74\00:25:10.44
And he's a funny guy.
00:25:10.47\00:25:14.21
He's very nice guy
jolly all the time.
00:25:14.24\00:25:17.25
But he gets
excited and he slapped me
00:25:17.28\00:25:20.95
when I disagreed
with what he said.
00:25:20.98\00:25:23.12
He slapped me on
the side of my face.
00:25:23.15\00:25:25.15
And there was another lady
behind me that saw him do it.
00:25:25.19\00:25:29.39
And she goes, "Ah" like that.
00:25:29.42\00:25:31.59
And then there was
the deacon of the church
00:25:31.63\00:25:35.06
was across from me,
and he saw it happen.
00:25:35.10\00:25:39.00
But it didn't hurt,
it just surprised me.
00:25:39.03\00:25:42.44
Oh, absolutely. I
mean, he's your boss.
00:25:42.47\00:25:44.94
Here you are the secretary,
00:25:44.97\00:25:46.44
you could say at the parish
working for him as your boss.
00:25:46.47\00:25:49.61
And there was people around...
00:25:49.64\00:25:50.98
And you're asking questions.
00:25:51.01\00:25:52.35
You're saying, "Okay, I'm
learning this in the Bible.
00:25:52.38\00:25:55.18
Okay, I'm seeing this
here and what's going on."
00:25:55.22\00:25:58.32
And just going
before him and saying,
00:25:58.35\00:26:01.12
"I have some
questions here," and then he...
00:26:01.16\00:26:03.69
Yeah. That is shocking.
00:26:03.73\00:26:05.36
Yeah. Okay.
00:26:05.39\00:26:06.73
And he is known
to have a temper,
00:26:06.76\00:26:08.10
but he didn't hit
hard, but he just,
00:26:08.13\00:26:10.73
it doesn't take much
to get him flustered.
00:26:10.77\00:26:13.50
And so he just slapped me.
00:26:13.54\00:26:18.04
But then when I
brought it up a few weeks later
00:26:18.07\00:26:20.91
he denied doing it.
00:26:20.94\00:26:22.44
Okay. Yeah.
00:26:22.48\00:26:24.28
I mean, obviously as a boss
00:26:24.31\00:26:25.71
that's not appropriate behavior.
00:26:25.75\00:26:28.08
So I mean, I'm sure
you're trying to cover yourself
00:26:28.12\00:26:30.52
to say...
00:26:30.55\00:26:31.89
So at some point here,
00:26:31.92\00:26:34.72
you're learning, you're growing,
00:26:34.76\00:26:36.66
you're journeying,
00:26:36.69\00:26:38.03
some point here
you really met Jesus.
00:26:38.06\00:26:41.10
Yes. So talk to us about that?
00:26:41.13\00:26:42.76
I was watching those tapes
00:26:42.80\00:26:44.63
and the next one
was on the judgment.
00:26:44.67\00:26:47.07
And I learned that
Jesus was my advocate.
00:26:47.10\00:26:50.41
And I thought,
00:26:50.44\00:26:52.47
I haven't done anything
for Jesus to defend me with
00:26:52.51\00:26:57.05
and I haven't given
Him the time or day,
00:26:57.08\00:26:59.68
and I was feeling
guilty, and as I listened on,
00:26:59.71\00:27:05.32
it would tear up my heart.
00:27:05.35\00:27:08.12
And then I got to another tape
that was about Mary Magdalene,
00:27:08.16\00:27:14.43
and she pretty much reflected
my life in earlier years.
00:27:14.46\00:27:19.47
And in fact,
00:27:19.50\00:27:20.87
I had probably broken
00:27:20.90\00:27:22.24
a lot of
commandments in my lifetime.
00:27:22.27\00:27:24.24
And this was just hurting me
00:27:24.27\00:27:27.08
when I saw what I
had done to Jesus.
00:27:27.11\00:27:29.84
Yeah.
00:27:29.88\00:27:31.21
I felt so bad
that I have heard Jesus
00:27:31.25\00:27:33.62
and when He loves us so much,
00:27:33.65\00:27:38.85
and so it got to me
00:27:38.89\00:27:42.62
and I started
bawling and bawling,
00:27:42.66\00:27:46.09
and telling
Jesus how sorry I was.
00:27:46.13\00:27:49.56
And I kept telling,
"I love Him, I love Him."
00:27:49.60\00:27:53.70
And I was
trying to type an email
00:27:53.74\00:27:57.41
to Pastor Lonnie at the time,
but I couldn't stop crying.
00:27:57.44\00:28:01.74
So I couldn't see.
00:28:01.78\00:28:03.81
But I was just by
feel, I typed him an email,
00:28:03.85\00:28:07.88
and told him this
is worse than suicide
00:28:07.92\00:28:11.05
'cause I had been
there in years earlier.
00:28:11.09\00:28:14.26
And told him,
00:28:14.29\00:28:15.62
I have heard Jesus
and he was getting ready
00:28:15.66\00:28:20.23
to go out of town.
00:28:20.26\00:28:21.60
And he told me to
call him at a certain time.
00:28:21.63\00:28:25.27
So I called him and
we talked on the phone
00:28:25.30\00:28:28.07
for the first time then.
00:28:28.10\00:28:30.07
And, but I wasn't
able to talk very much...
00:28:30.11\00:28:34.24
'Cause you're crying so hard.
00:28:34.28\00:28:35.61
Yeah, but nothing was
coming out of my mouth
00:28:35.64\00:28:37.98
at all.
00:28:38.01\00:28:39.35
And he had to do
most of the talking.
00:28:39.38\00:28:41.65
So we ended up,
00:28:41.68\00:28:43.35
he prayed with
me and we hung up.
00:28:43.39\00:28:45.65
But then a couple weeks later,
00:28:45.69\00:28:48.29
I called him again and that time
00:28:48.32\00:28:52.73
I just spilt out
everything I was guilty of,
00:28:52.76\00:28:56.20
and he led me in
the sinner's prayer,
00:28:56.23\00:29:01.44
we were on the phone,
00:29:01.47\00:29:02.80
he was on his knees at his end,
00:29:02.84\00:29:04.24
and I was on my knees at my end.
00:29:04.27\00:29:06.51
And it's kind of funny
00:29:06.54\00:29:07.94
because I was at
work at the time.
00:29:07.98\00:29:09.84
So I was in the priest's
office with the door shut.
00:29:09.88\00:29:13.72
I had gone in an hour earlier,
and was in the priest's office,
00:29:13.75\00:29:18.82
and had place locked,
00:29:18.85\00:29:20.32
and was on my knees
00:29:20.36\00:29:22.36
saying the
sinner's prayer to Jesus.
00:29:22.39\00:29:25.79
And so we set up a time,
then he became my mentor,
00:29:25.83\00:29:32.33
Pastor Lonnie did.
00:29:32.37\00:29:33.70
And, so I continued to
listen to more tapes, and...
00:29:33.74\00:29:39.21
I just want to
interrupt one moment.
00:29:39.24\00:29:41.04
It's incredible to me, Laura,
to see the love God has for us.
00:29:41.08\00:29:46.95
You know, how to me
00:29:46.98\00:29:48.55
He just draws us
with His quotes of love,
00:29:48.58\00:29:51.55
and no matter what you've done,
00:29:51.59\00:29:53.79
no matter how far you've fallen,
00:29:53.82\00:29:55.82
no matter where it
feels like your past has been,
00:29:55.86\00:29:59.23
the Lord Jesus can redeem,
the Lord Jesus can forgive.
00:29:59.26\00:30:04.03
He says in 1 John 1:9,
"If we confess our sins,
00:30:04.07\00:30:07.74
He's faithful and just
to forgive us our sins,
00:30:07.77\00:30:11.34
and to cleanse us
from all unrighteousness."
00:30:11.37\00:30:14.18
So He doesn't
just like whitewash,
00:30:14.21\00:30:16.14
"Okay, here's a
quick forgiveness."
00:30:16.18\00:30:17.75
But it's a complete
cleansing from inside.
00:30:17.78\00:30:21.58
And the thing I love the
most about your testimony
00:30:21.62\00:30:24.92
is your heart for Jesus.
00:30:24.95\00:30:27.86
You know, you're
saying, I hurt You.
00:30:27.89\00:30:31.06
You know, think of
all the things I did
00:30:31.09\00:30:33.03
and how that hurt Jesus.
00:30:33.06\00:30:34.60
Often when we
do something wrong,
00:30:34.63\00:30:36.77
we just justify ourselves.
00:30:36.80\00:30:38.23
You know what I'm
saying, we kind of just say,
00:30:38.27\00:30:40.70
"Well, it wasn't
really that bad, God,
00:30:40.74\00:30:42.50
and I'm not really
that bad of a person."
00:30:42.54\00:30:44.31
But the Holy Spirit had
broken your heart to realize
00:30:44.34\00:30:48.24
what you had done
had put Him on the cross.
00:30:48.28\00:30:50.78
And I don't mean you
specifically, I mean,
00:30:50.81\00:30:52.68
what I did put Him on the cross,
00:30:52.71\00:30:54.48
what each one of us
did, our sins did that,
00:30:54.52\00:30:57.82
and yet you saw His love.
00:30:57.85\00:30:59.45
I did.
00:30:59.49\00:31:00.82
And indeed the story with
the Mary Magdalene one was
00:31:00.86\00:31:03.86
how quickly He forgave
Mary and how much He loved her,
00:31:03.89\00:31:08.56
and how much she loved
Him, and just to see her,
00:31:08.60\00:31:13.37
you know, wiping His feet
with her hair from her tears,
00:31:13.40\00:31:17.64
wiping them off
and anointing Him.
00:31:17.67\00:31:20.91
I thought, I want
to do that for Jesus.
00:31:20.94\00:31:23.45
And I thought, "He just
forgave her and loved her
00:31:23.48\00:31:27.68
in spite of what
how she had lived.
00:31:27.72\00:31:30.59
And I thought, I want that.
00:31:30.62\00:31:34.06
And I was thinking when
on judgment back on judgment,
00:31:34.09\00:31:40.20
the devil is going to...
00:31:40.23\00:31:42.40
He's spilling out everything
that I did for the reason
00:31:42.43\00:31:47.27
why I shouldn't be
allowed to be in heaven.
00:31:47.30\00:31:50.24
And so I wanted Jesus to
have something for me to,
00:31:50.27\00:31:56.58
you know, I
wanted to live for Jesus
00:31:56.61\00:31:59.78
and not for myself
like I had been doing.
00:31:59.81\00:32:03.08
And all those years
when I was looking for love,
00:32:03.12\00:32:07.56
Jesus was right there.
00:32:07.59\00:32:09.62
And I didn't even pay attention.
00:32:09.66\00:32:12.59
I didn't sense
it. I didn't feel it.
00:32:12.63\00:32:15.70
And, but I learned differently
listening to these tapes.
00:32:15.73\00:32:22.14
So talk to me
about the difference
00:32:22.17\00:32:23.74
before Christ and after Christ?
00:32:23.77\00:32:26.01
We talked some about
what your life was like
00:32:26.04\00:32:28.21
before meeting Jesus.
00:32:28.24\00:32:29.78
But how did it
change, Laura, after Jesus?
00:32:29.81\00:32:32.78
I put my
attention totally on Jesus.
00:32:32.81\00:32:36.18
I prayed, and
prayed, and prayed.
00:32:36.22\00:32:38.25
I couldn't wait to
get up in the mornings.
00:32:38.29\00:32:40.49
I was getting, and I
still do get up at 4:30 or so to
00:32:40.52\00:32:44.86
and because I can be
alone with God and pray to Him.
00:32:44.89\00:32:48.13
And I was writing things down
to remember them to scripture
00:32:48.16\00:32:53.54
and things like that.
00:32:53.57\00:32:55.70
And I just
couldn't do enough for Him.
00:32:55.74\00:32:59.17
I just loved.
00:32:59.21\00:33:00.94
And Pastor Lonnie had sent
me a booklet for Bible marking.
00:33:00.98\00:33:06.08
And so, I was
really into that big time
00:33:06.11\00:33:08.72
and I was getting to know
the Bible better by doing it.
00:33:08.75\00:33:12.42
And it was real fun to do,
00:33:12.45\00:33:14.66
really neat to see
the different places
00:33:14.69\00:33:17.06
that it references to
the same thing in the Bible.
00:33:17.09\00:33:21.06
And I was learning all
about Daniel and Revelation.
00:33:21.10\00:33:24.53
And these are
things that I never heard,
00:33:24.57\00:33:26.67
you know, at church,
00:33:26.70\00:33:29.04
they didn't talk about it
at Methodist or at Catholic.
00:33:29.07\00:33:32.44
And just so much I was learning
that I didn't, wasn't learning.
00:33:32.47\00:33:38.45
Now I do want to say
at the Catholic Church,
00:33:38.48\00:33:43.92
I did learn about dying to self
through the Catholic Church.
00:33:43.95\00:33:50.53
But everything else I've
learned from Adventist Church.
00:33:50.56\00:33:54.93
And it's a
blessing to be Adventist
00:33:54.96\00:33:59.93
because I'm learning so
much all the time every day.
00:33:59.97\00:34:03.71
Amen.
00:34:03.74\00:34:05.07
So let's talk about your
husband's reaction, Tom's.
00:34:05.11\00:34:07.78
What did he think?
00:34:07.81\00:34:10.11
Here you're
studying, and he's thinking,
00:34:10.15\00:34:11.61
"Well, my
wife's a good Catholic,
00:34:11.65\00:34:12.98
and she works as
the parish secretary.
00:34:13.01\00:34:17.09
And, you know, we have
this marriage in life together,
00:34:17.12\00:34:19.65
and all of a sudden you
start learning things about
00:34:19.69\00:34:22.46
when we die, we
sleep, is death as a sleep,
00:34:22.49\00:34:25.36
and then you start
learning about the Sabbath,
00:34:25.39\00:34:27.70
then you met Jesus.
00:34:27.73\00:34:29.06
And so what was
your husband's reaction?
00:34:29.10\00:34:32.33
He took it hard.
00:34:32.37\00:34:35.57
I told him that
00:34:35.60\00:34:37.17
I wanted to start
going to Adventist Church.
00:34:37.21\00:34:41.71
And he took it hard and said,
00:34:41.74\00:34:45.21
"But you promised
before we got married,
00:34:45.25\00:34:47.88
the two would be Catholic."
00:34:47.92\00:34:50.89
I didn't say this.
00:34:50.92\00:34:52.25
But I didn't realize,
I hadn't read the Bible.
00:34:52.29\00:34:54.76
And I didn't realize
the truth when I said that.
00:34:54.79\00:34:58.33
And I wanted to
be Catholic for him.
00:34:58.36\00:35:01.73
But, now, I wanted to
be Adventist for Jesus.
00:35:01.76\00:35:06.33
And I told him, but I was saved.
00:35:06.37\00:35:09.97
I've been reborn.
00:35:10.01\00:35:11.84
And I really want to go there.
00:35:11.87\00:35:14.24
And I said, "I want
to be baptized there."
00:35:14.28\00:35:18.21
And he said,
00:35:18.25\00:35:20.85
"But we'll go different ways
00:35:20.88\00:35:22.58
that will make us go
different directions."
00:35:22.62\00:35:25.42
And I said, "I
still be your wife,
00:35:25.45\00:35:27.82
I still be the same person,
I'll still do things with you."
00:35:27.86\00:35:32.03
And so I invited him
to come along with me,
00:35:35.06\00:35:39.10
but he wouldn't have
anything to do with that.
00:35:39.13\00:35:42.44
And one time I asked him,
00:35:42.47\00:35:46.54
now this was a year after
00:35:46.57\00:35:49.24
I was saved.
00:35:49.28\00:35:53.58
I asked him, "Would he go
with me to Adventist Church?"
00:35:53.62\00:35:57.45
And he said, "Probably not."
00:35:57.49\00:35:59.85
And I said, "If I
showed you in the Bible
00:35:59.89\00:36:02.26
where it says
Saturday is the Sabbath,
00:36:02.29\00:36:05.09
would you go with me then?"
00:36:05.13\00:36:06.86
And he said, "No."
00:36:06.90\00:36:08.96
So I haven't pushed it
00:36:09.00\00:36:11.20
because I don't
want to push it too much
00:36:11.23\00:36:13.23
'cause I love him dearly.
00:36:13.27\00:36:14.87
Yeah.
00:36:14.90\00:36:16.60
But you had to make a choice.
00:36:16.64\00:36:18.31
I mean, that I can't even
imagine because, you know,
00:36:18.34\00:36:20.81
my husband, Greg and I,
we both share the same faith.
00:36:20.84\00:36:25.05
So to make a choice and to say,
00:36:25.08\00:36:27.45
"Am I going to follow what
I'm learning in the Word of God,
00:36:27.48\00:36:29.98
even if it hurts
right now in the family?"
00:36:30.02\00:36:32.89
Exactly. Exactly.
00:36:32.92\00:36:34.26
I mean, that's a hard place
and a hard decision to make.
00:36:34.29\00:36:36.59
It's often I wish that
00:36:36.62\00:36:39.46
we could be the same
faith and be Adventist.
00:36:39.49\00:36:42.86
It felt like Jesus was
no longer in our marriage
00:36:42.90\00:36:46.67
for a while.
00:36:46.70\00:36:48.04
But now Tom has come
to accept it a lot better.
00:36:48.07\00:36:53.04
And he knows that
where I'm going to be
00:36:53.07\00:36:55.81
on Saturday
mornings and Wednesday night.
00:36:55.84\00:36:58.31
And he is okay
with it now. Amen.
00:36:58.35\00:37:02.38
So God's working
healing even in that.
00:37:02.42\00:37:04.09
He is. He is.
00:37:04.12\00:37:05.95
So talk to us
about when you decided to
00:37:05.99\00:37:09.12
first attend the
Seventh-day Adventist Church.
00:37:09.16\00:37:12.06
I know now
00:37:12.09\00:37:13.43
you're at the First Seventh-day
Adventist Church of Evansville.
00:37:13.46\00:37:16.56
I had the privilege of
being at Laura's baptism,
00:37:16.60\00:37:19.37
which we'll talk
about in just a moment.
00:37:19.40\00:37:20.94
But tell us first,
00:37:20.97\00:37:23.10
how did you find the church
00:37:23.14\00:37:24.64
and what was it like
the first time you went in?
00:37:24.67\00:37:27.41
Well, first of all,
00:37:27.44\00:37:28.78
I started going to the Catholic
Church on Saturday evenings
00:37:28.81\00:37:31.91
so that I was going
to church on Saturdays.
00:37:31.95\00:37:34.58
Tom wouldn't go with me.
00:37:34.62\00:37:36.18
But, and then I went
Sunday again with him, for him.
00:37:36.22\00:37:39.75
And so,
00:37:39.79\00:37:42.36
I one day called
Pastor Lonnie and told him
00:37:42.39\00:37:46.80
that I was going to
church on Saturdays now,
00:37:46.83\00:37:49.13
but it was the Catholic Church.
00:37:49.16\00:37:51.33
And he was pleased to hear that,
00:37:51.37\00:37:53.64
he said, "It could
use some tweaking,"
00:37:53.67\00:37:56.20
but he said, "this is a start."
00:37:56.24\00:37:58.34
And, so he was very
pleased, and prayed with me,
00:37:58.37\00:38:04.68
and so forth, and
after we hung up I thought,
00:38:04.71\00:38:08.22
"Tweaking, what
does he mean by that?"
00:38:08.25\00:38:10.49
And I thought, "Okay,
00:38:10.52\00:38:12.52
I'll look up an Adventist Church
00:38:12.55\00:38:14.19
and I'll start going
to an Adventist Church."
00:38:14.22\00:38:16.86
He never said that
on the phone at all.
00:38:16.89\00:38:19.03
This was all me.
00:38:19.06\00:38:20.96
And so I went to the internet
00:38:21.00\00:38:24.33
and started looking
up the Adventist churches
00:38:24.37\00:38:29.00
and found two of
them in Evansville.
00:38:29.04\00:38:31.34
And so there was
one real close to me,
00:38:31.37\00:38:34.51
and then one a
little further away.
00:38:34.54\00:38:37.38
And so I went, and did a
drive by and kind of peeked in,
00:38:37.41\00:38:43.82
and I was very
nervous about going by myself
00:38:43.85\00:38:47.52
because if you
remember when I was on my own
00:38:47.56\00:38:49.52
I didn't go to church
00:38:49.56\00:38:50.89
because I was
scared to go by myself.
00:38:50.93\00:38:53.29
Well, here I was again. Yes.
00:38:53.33\00:38:55.96
But now you had
Jesus. But now I have Jesus.
00:38:56.00\00:38:58.27
Before, you are on
your own and without Jesus.
00:38:58.30\00:39:01.24
Now you had Jesus. Right.
00:39:01.27\00:39:03.81
And I had this
protective hedge around me now.
00:39:03.84\00:39:07.51
So I made up my mind
I was going, and went,
00:39:07.54\00:39:13.88
and the people were so
friendly and everybody said,
00:39:13.92\00:39:17.29
"Happy Sabbath," and hugged me.
00:39:17.32\00:39:19.82
And they didn't even know me.
00:39:19.85\00:39:21.19
It was my first time there.
00:39:21.22\00:39:22.96
And I was like,
"Wow, this is really neat.
00:39:22.99\00:39:25.26
I felt loved already."
00:39:25.29\00:39:27.13
And it was so neat.
00:39:27.16\00:39:28.50
The pastor and his wife
were out of town at the time,
00:39:28.53\00:39:31.33
and the head elder
had said, welcomed me.
00:39:31.37\00:39:37.77
And said,
00:39:37.81\00:39:40.04
"The first time a visitor,
the second time family."
00:39:40.08\00:39:43.75
And I kept that in my head.
00:39:43.78\00:39:46.45
And so the next weekend I
wanted to go back again...
00:39:46.48\00:39:49.18
And be family.
Be family. So I did.
00:39:49.22\00:39:51.95
And it was the same
reaction everybody hugged,
00:39:51.99\00:39:54.86
"Happy Sabbath," and hugged.
00:39:54.89\00:39:56.96
And I just really
loved it and still I.
00:39:56.99\00:40:00.70
And I could feel Jesus. Amen.
00:40:00.73\00:40:03.23
And, so then I went to the
other church to see how it was.
00:40:03.26\00:40:10.04
And they were also friendly
00:40:10.07\00:40:11.61
and hugged and
said, "Happy Sabbath."
00:40:11.64\00:40:13.31
But I don't know the
one that I chose was the one
00:40:13.34\00:40:16.54
that I'm going to now.
00:40:16.58\00:40:18.51
And I have not
regretted it at all.
00:40:18.55\00:40:21.52
I look so forward
to going every week.
00:40:21.55\00:40:24.59
I just can't wait to
get there and I love that
00:40:24.62\00:40:27.66
the Adventist has a
quarterly, but we do.
00:40:27.69\00:40:31.79
I love that, no other
churches ever had that
00:40:31.83\00:40:34.66
that I've gone to.
00:40:34.70\00:40:36.03
And so...
00:40:36.06\00:40:37.40
And I know you watch
Sabbath School panels sometimes.
00:40:37.43\00:40:38.77
I do. I do.
00:40:38.80\00:40:40.57
And it's just, I
can't get enough of it.
00:40:40.60\00:40:43.24
I just, I love it.
00:40:43.27\00:40:45.37
It's a good way to read
the Bible and to learn things.
00:40:45.41\00:40:49.44
And I love learning about Jesus.
00:40:49.48\00:40:51.48
I just love it.
00:40:51.51\00:40:53.52
I just love it. Amen.
00:40:53.55\00:40:55.05
So you went for how long
00:40:55.08\00:40:56.75
before you made the
decision to be baptized?
00:40:56.79\00:40:58.75
I know Pastor Norris...
Is that your church, right?
00:40:58.79\00:41:01.09
And his wife Coyleen? Yes.
00:41:01.12\00:41:03.06
Yes. Okay.
00:41:03.09\00:41:05.33
I was going there
for about six months.
00:41:05.36\00:41:08.66
And I just commented to
in an email to Pastor Lonnie,
00:41:08.70\00:41:13.10
that I really would
like to be baptized.
00:41:13.13\00:41:16.57
And that's all it took, he said,
00:41:16.60\00:41:18.47
"I'll come there
and baptize you."
00:41:18.51\00:41:20.74
Now you hadn't met he
and his wife at this time?
00:41:20.78\00:41:22.84
We had never met yet. Okay.
00:41:22.88\00:41:24.21
You were just communicated
via email or phone, or whatever.
00:41:24.25\00:41:26.92
Right.
00:41:26.95\00:41:28.28
So six months
later for the first time
00:41:28.32\00:41:29.88
we were going
to meet each other.
00:41:29.92\00:41:31.25
We were meeting at a restaurant
00:41:31.29\00:41:32.79
before he was going to
have a service that evening.
00:41:32.82\00:41:36.96
He did an evangelistic service
00:41:36.99\00:41:38.93
for Friday evening
and Saturday morning.
00:41:38.96\00:41:41.70
And so before church,
00:41:41.73\00:41:44.63
we met at a restaurant
so we can meet each other,
00:41:44.67\00:41:47.10
and get used to
each other, and so forth.
00:41:47.14\00:41:50.21
So I knew what
they looked like but,
00:41:50.24\00:41:56.34
and Jeannie kind of
knew what I looked like
00:41:56.38\00:41:58.28
because of Facebook.
00:41:58.31\00:41:59.65
I'm friends
with her on Facebook.
00:41:59.68\00:42:01.65
And so, I
recognized her right away
00:42:01.68\00:42:06.65
and she recognized me.
00:42:06.69\00:42:08.02
And we just smiled and went
to each other with a big hug.
00:42:08.06\00:42:11.99
And so then we
talked and got acquainted.
00:42:12.03\00:42:15.96
And it was just a
really great time.
00:42:16.00\00:42:18.60
And we went to church
and it was a great weekend.
00:42:18.63\00:42:23.37
Yeah, that was Friday, right?
Isn't that when you first met?
00:42:23.41\00:42:25.87
And I think the first
time I met you was on Sabbath.
00:42:25.91\00:42:29.58
I remember we were in
the office here at 3ABN.
00:42:29.61\00:42:32.35
And I think it was Pastor Lonnie
00:42:32.38\00:42:35.45
who first
notified us of your story.
00:42:35.48\00:42:37.69
I think it was Pastor
Lonnie. He's friends with Roy.
00:42:37.72\00:42:39.62
Yes. Yeah.
00:42:39.65\00:42:40.99
So I think he's the one
who first notified us of that.
00:42:41.02\00:42:43.22
And I remember thinking,
00:42:43.26\00:42:44.89
"Wow, this is an
incredible testimony.
00:42:44.93\00:42:48.13
We have got to go."
00:42:48.16\00:42:49.56
So we took some
of our 3ABN crew,
00:42:49.60\00:42:52.53
I know Roy and
Arlene were there,
00:42:52.57\00:42:54.37
my husband Greg and I
went, Pastor CA Murray.
00:42:54.40\00:42:57.04
Yes.
00:42:57.07\00:42:58.41
I think Brad Walker went
and some of the other crew.
00:42:58.44\00:43:00.68
And we went over
to the Evansville
00:43:00.71\00:43:03.14
First
Seventh-day Adventist Church.
00:43:03.18\00:43:04.75
Pastor Norris was
there and his wife,
00:43:04.78\00:43:07.25
Pastor Lonnie was
there and Jeannie,
00:43:07.28\00:43:10.29
and the best thing is
that Lauren was there.
00:43:10.32\00:43:13.02
And we got to meet
you, and hug you, and see
00:43:13.05\00:43:16.42
what God is doing in your life.
00:43:16.46\00:43:18.46
And I know we have
some footage of that
00:43:18.49\00:43:21.16
I want to show here.
00:43:21.20\00:43:22.53
But I remember your baptism
00:43:22.56\00:43:24.57
going up in the baptistery tank.
00:43:24.60\00:43:26.20
And what was it like,
Laura, being baptized?
00:43:26.23\00:43:29.17
It was, I don't
know how to explain it.
00:43:29.20\00:43:31.41
There was flower petals
floating around in the water.
00:43:31.44\00:43:35.94
And it was high up in
the top of the church.
00:43:35.98\00:43:38.88
It was high... I
was close to heaven.
00:43:38.91\00:43:43.08
And it was just,
they were singing songs,
00:43:43.12\00:43:47.12
and it was just, he
was quoting scripture.
00:43:47.16\00:43:50.23
And then when I went and
got immersed under the water,
00:43:50.26\00:43:55.50
and came up, it was just,
00:43:55.53\00:43:58.67
I could feel it on my shoulders
00:43:58.70\00:44:01.44
like a heavy load
was off my shoulders.
00:44:01.47\00:44:04.84
It was just really neat.
00:44:04.87\00:44:07.58
I remember
Pastor Lonnie preached.
00:44:07.61\00:44:10.31
He had an incredible sermon.
00:44:10.35\00:44:12.08
And then in the afternoon,
00:44:12.11\00:44:13.68
we recorded a bit
of your testimony too.
00:44:13.72\00:44:16.48
I think we have a
little footage of that.
00:44:16.52\00:44:19.29
Pastor CA interviewed you
00:44:19.32\00:44:20.66
and Pastor Lonnie
about some of your journey.
00:44:20.69\00:44:24.29
Yes.
00:44:24.33\00:44:25.66
That was your first
experience with television.
00:44:25.69\00:44:28.06
Yes.
00:44:28.10\00:44:31.70
So I know since then,
00:44:31.73\00:44:34.20
Laura's been
active in the church.
00:44:34.24\00:44:36.74
So tell us you're not
just sitting in the pew
00:44:36.77\00:44:40.11
and being part of
the family as you are.
00:44:40.14\00:44:41.91
Now see, that's what I
thought I was going to do.
00:44:41.94\00:44:44.98
'Cause that's
what I had always done
00:44:45.01\00:44:46.58
in Methodist
Church and Catholic Church
00:44:46.61\00:44:49.05
was sitting in the pew.
00:44:49.08\00:44:50.89
And all of a
sudden one Saturday,
00:44:50.92\00:44:54.06
I was asked to
read the scripture.
00:44:54.09\00:44:57.59
And I was like panicked.
00:44:57.63\00:45:01.93
And I actually
him-hawed around that they said,
00:45:01.96\00:45:05.53
"We'll go to somebody else."
00:45:05.57\00:45:07.60
And instantly, I felt horrible.
00:45:07.64\00:45:11.37
Like, I refuse
Jesus when I did that.
00:45:11.41\00:45:15.48
And as soon as I got home,
I texted his wife and said,
00:45:15.51\00:45:19.31
"Tell him that
I'll read next time."
00:45:19.35\00:45:22.02
And so the next
time I was asked,
00:45:22.05\00:45:24.52
and I got up there and read.
00:45:24.55\00:45:25.99
And so I've read a
few times since then.
00:45:26.02\00:45:27.86
And I've come
around to know that
00:45:27.89\00:45:31.73
that is a witness
for Jesus right there.
00:45:31.76\00:45:34.66
It is.
00:45:34.70\00:45:36.03
And so I always remember that
00:45:36.06\00:45:37.40
I'm doing it for
Jesus and I'm okay then.
00:45:37.43\00:45:39.60
Amen.
00:45:39.63\00:45:40.97
And you're also
involved in some Bible study.
00:45:41.00\00:45:42.90
Yeah. Tell us about that?
00:45:42.94\00:45:46.27
Thunder in the Holy Land with...
00:45:46.31\00:45:49.54
Elder Bird. Yes.
00:45:49.58\00:45:51.41
Charles Bird. Charles Bird.
00:45:51.45\00:45:53.45
Pastor Lonnie also did
one where he narrated it.
00:45:53.48\00:45:57.62
And he gave me a set
00:45:57.65\00:45:59.52
and so I started showing pastor
00:45:59.55\00:46:04.69
and Coyleen got some
people together for me,
00:46:04.73\00:46:07.70
and I started showing that,
00:46:07.73\00:46:10.13
and we talked
about it afterwards,
00:46:10.17\00:46:11.80
and we went
through the whole series.
00:46:11.83\00:46:13.80
And it was kind of
sad that it was over,
00:46:13.84\00:46:16.77
we weren't ready to be done.
00:46:16.81\00:46:18.34
I think about all of
us felt the same way.
00:46:18.37\00:46:21.31
And so we
decided to start reading
00:46:21.34\00:46:24.71
Desire of Ages study in it,
00:46:24.75\00:46:27.35
and seeing what it
means and so forth.
00:46:27.38\00:46:30.12
And 'cause it has a
lot of scripture in it.
00:46:30.15\00:46:32.75
And so we would
reference to the scripture
00:46:32.79\00:46:35.86
and talk about it,
00:46:35.89\00:46:37.23
how it applies to
us now and so forth.
00:46:37.26\00:46:39.09
And we've become
a close knit group
00:46:39.13\00:46:41.30
and we have about nine of us
00:46:41.33\00:46:44.47
that has gone
for over a year now.
00:46:44.50\00:46:47.94
Is this Wednesday nights or...
00:46:47.97\00:46:49.30
Wednesday nights. Okay.
00:46:49.34\00:46:50.67
Yes, at six
o'clock. And it's very good.
00:46:50.71\00:46:55.34
I've really grown a lot from it.
00:46:55.38\00:46:57.48
And some of them
have said they have too.
00:46:57.51\00:47:00.02
Amen. Amen.
00:47:00.05\00:47:01.88
I know that Pastor Lonnie has
been a huge mentor in your life
00:47:01.92\00:47:05.89
that you have
volume his correspondence.
00:47:05.92\00:47:08.99
Sometimes I copy
out a little bit of it.
00:47:09.02\00:47:12.36
And I know that
Pastor Norris and Coyleen
00:47:12.39\00:47:16.46
have ministered in your life.
00:47:16.50\00:47:18.53
I was thinking about
some of the correspondence
00:47:18.57\00:47:20.57
between you and Pastor Lonnie.
00:47:20.60\00:47:21.97
And maybe someday a
book's going develop.
00:47:22.00\00:47:25.51
Yes, we are planning to...
00:47:25.54\00:47:28.91
I have kept all the emails
back and forth that we did.
00:47:28.94\00:47:33.11
And we're planning
to have it published.
00:47:33.15\00:47:36.52
And it just takes a
while to get it all together.
00:47:36.55\00:47:40.02
And I'm so busy now
with my Adventist life
00:47:40.06\00:47:43.69
that it's hard
for me to get to it.
00:47:43.73\00:47:47.06
But we're going to get it done.
00:47:47.10\00:47:48.93
And we already
have somebody in Germany
00:47:48.96\00:47:51.27
that wants to print it.
00:47:51.30\00:47:53.27
And so it's pretty
neat, exciting too.
00:47:53.30\00:47:57.44
It's another way to witness.
00:47:57.47\00:48:00.08
You know what
I'm thinking, Laura,
00:48:00.11\00:48:01.44
is that I think
about where you were.
00:48:01.48\00:48:06.92
You know, there's
a verse in Genesis.
00:48:06.95\00:48:08.75
I think it's Genesis 50,
00:48:08.78\00:48:10.32
Joseph talking to his brothers,
00:48:10.35\00:48:11.89
you know, right at
the end there of Genesis.
00:48:11.92\00:48:14.82
And he says, what
Satan intended for evil
00:48:14.86\00:48:18.09
because the brothers,
00:48:18.13\00:48:19.46
you know, throw them in the pit,
00:48:19.49\00:48:20.83
and sold him as
a slave into Egypt,
00:48:20.86\00:48:22.20
and all of that horrible stuff.
00:48:22.23\00:48:24.83
And that was not God.
00:48:24.87\00:48:26.20
God didn't want that to happen.
00:48:26.23\00:48:27.57
Satan intended that for evil.
00:48:27.60\00:48:29.14
But what does he say?
00:48:29.17\00:48:30.57
God turned to good.
00:48:30.61\00:48:32.94
And so I see what Satan
intended for evil in your life.
00:48:32.97\00:48:36.44
You know that
bullying as a child,
00:48:36.48\00:48:38.91
and the pain, and the
shame that you experience,
00:48:38.95\00:48:41.92
that isolation, that loneliness,
00:48:41.95\00:48:45.55
God worked redemptively.
00:48:45.59\00:48:48.32
He didn't want that to happen.
00:48:48.36\00:48:49.69
Of course, now that's a
result of sin and Satan.
00:48:49.72\00:48:52.59
But at the same time,
00:48:52.63\00:48:54.10
God brought beauty as it were,
from where there was ashes,
00:48:54.13\00:48:57.77
God brought cause the
desert as it were to rejoice,
00:48:57.80\00:49:01.10
and blossom as the rose,
00:49:01.14\00:49:03.00
and to look at you now,
00:49:03.04\00:49:04.37
and to see what God
is doing in your life,
00:49:04.41\00:49:07.41
and the incredible
journey that you've been on.
00:49:07.44\00:49:10.01
I know you came over
today with Linda Patterson
00:49:10.05\00:49:12.48
who's another sister in Jesus.
00:49:12.51\00:49:14.68
I can't even remember
00:49:14.72\00:49:16.38
how many camp meetings
Linda's been coming to.
00:49:16.42\00:49:18.39
She's been to our
church and the camp meeting.
00:49:18.42\00:49:20.76
She's a wonderful
woman. And you came...
00:49:20.79\00:49:22.79
Was it the first time with her
00:49:22.82\00:49:24.29
to camp meeting here with Linda?
00:49:24.33\00:49:25.66
Yes, in the spring I did,
I was here and I loved it.
00:49:25.69\00:49:29.96
I could have
tended that three weeks
00:49:30.00\00:49:32.03
and not got tired of it.
00:49:32.07\00:49:33.40
It was just awesome.
00:49:33.44\00:49:34.77
And I learned so much,
00:49:34.80\00:49:36.14
and it was even better
than watching 3ABN on TV.
00:49:36.17\00:49:39.77
You know, you get to
see pastor after pastor,
00:49:39.81\00:49:43.65
and learn so much,
and see them in person,
00:49:43.68\00:49:47.12
and you could feel
God, God was so much there.
00:49:47.15\00:49:51.35
And, you know, there
the ministers are talented
00:49:51.39\00:49:55.26
at bringing that out
that Jesus is there and...
00:49:55.29\00:49:59.43
Amen.
00:49:59.46\00:50:01.36
I want to mention
your email address here.
00:50:01.40\00:50:03.57
And then maybe we'll get to
00:50:03.60\00:50:04.93
a couple of your
favorite scriptures.
00:50:04.97\00:50:06.30
Okay.
00:50:06.33\00:50:07.67
But if you would
like to contact Laura,
00:50:07.70\00:50:09.24
we're not going
to put up an address,
00:50:09.27\00:50:10.71
and phone number, and all that.
00:50:10.74\00:50:12.07
But we would like to
put up her email address.
00:50:12.11\00:50:14.38
It's TigerSommerfield
that's just the word tiger,
00:50:14.41\00:50:17.98
and that's
S-O-M-M-E-R-F-I-E-L-D.
00:50:18.01\00:50:23.05
Tigersommerfield@gmail.com.
00:50:23.08\00:50:26.45
And so if something
she has shared today
00:50:26.49\00:50:29.09
about her own journey,
her journey of healing,
00:50:29.12\00:50:31.69
her journey into
the Adventist Church
00:50:31.73\00:50:33.56
if that has
ministered to your life.
00:50:33.60\00:50:35.86
If you have questions for Laura,
00:50:35.90\00:50:37.63
if you would like
someone to pray with you,
00:50:37.67\00:50:40.74
email Laura.
00:50:40.77\00:50:42.10
That's
TigerSommerfield@gmail.com.
00:50:42.14\00:50:45.57
And I know that she would
love to correspond with you
00:50:45.61\00:50:48.31
and encourage you in the Lord.
00:50:48.34\00:50:50.38
So we're almost
out of time here.
00:50:50.41\00:50:52.25
But is there a
scripture I know you told me
00:50:52.28\00:50:54.35
there's a couple scriptures
you really like, Laura.
00:50:54.38\00:50:56.65
You want to share
with us the scripture.
00:50:56.69\00:50:59.02
Coyleen, you mentioned,
she's one of my mentors,
00:50:59.05\00:51:01.69
and she has worked with
me, teach me on how to...
00:51:01.72\00:51:05.99
Training me on how
to teach Bible study.
00:51:06.03\00:51:08.63
And she sends me
scriptures all of the time
00:51:08.66\00:51:12.40
as well as Pastor Lonnie.
00:51:12.43\00:51:13.77
But one of them is Isaiah 41:13,
00:51:13.80\00:51:17.71
"For I the Lord your God
00:51:17.74\00:51:19.64
will hold your
right hand saying to you,
00:51:19.67\00:51:22.68
'Fear not, I will help you.'"
00:51:22.71\00:51:25.51
And I read that scripture.
00:51:25.55\00:51:26.88
I have 3x5 cards, I
keep in my purse on a spiral.
00:51:26.92\00:51:30.62
And I have that
written on there,
00:51:30.65\00:51:32.42
and I look at it all the
time to remind myself of that.
00:51:32.45\00:51:36.42
Amen.
00:51:36.46\00:51:37.79
And it's just a
great scripture to read.
00:51:37.83\00:51:41.86
I have another
one, if I have time.
00:51:41.90\00:51:43.23
Please we have
time for one more.
00:51:43.26\00:51:44.60
Absolutely.
00:51:44.63\00:51:45.97
Galatians 1:10,
00:51:46.00\00:51:47.34
"For do I now
persuade men or God?
00:51:47.37\00:51:50.81
Or do I seek to please men?
00:51:50.84\00:51:53.44
For if I still pleased men,
00:51:53.48\00:51:55.88
I would not be a
servant of Christ."
00:51:55.91\00:51:59.05
And I just wish I
would have read the Bible
00:51:59.08\00:52:02.82
when I was years ago.
00:52:02.85\00:52:04.95
And maybe I would
have got to Jesus sooner.
00:52:04.99\00:52:08.92
But I just love
these scriptures.
00:52:08.96\00:52:10.83
We're so blessed
to have the Bible
00:52:10.86\00:52:12.83
and scripture from God.
00:52:12.86\00:52:14.50
We have been so
blessed to have you here.
00:52:14.53\00:52:16.53
We're going to go to
our news break at this time,
00:52:16.56\00:52:18.70
and then we'll be back with
a closing thought from Laura.
00:52:18.73\00:52:21.60
But I hope your heart
has been encouraged today
00:52:21.64\00:52:24.11
at what God can do
in any of our lives
00:52:24.14\00:52:27.08
if we make a
decision to follow Him.
00:52:27.11\00:52:29.34
We'll be right back.
00:52:29.38\00:52:30.71