I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Removing pain
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Lord, let my words
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Heal a heart that hurts
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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Hello. I'm Shelley
Quinn, and we welcome you
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to 3ABN Today.
We're so glad that you've
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tuned in again. I
think you're going to
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be very inspired
today by this story. You
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know, in Matthew
28 verses 19 and 20,
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Jesus tells His disciples,
"Go therefore and make
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disciples of all the
nations, baptizing them
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in the name of the
Father and the Son and the
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Holy Spirit,
teaching them to observe
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all things that I have commanded
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you." We call this
the Great Commission.
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As Danny Shelton
always says, "What
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God asks of us is
that we come to the
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foot of the
cross, then we go and
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share the story,
and the blessing is on
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the go." You
know, some people, in a
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moment of
"spiritual heat," they become
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passionate about
sharing the gospel
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for this long. But
then there are some
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people who really
obey this command and
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they make a
spiritual commitment to a
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lifestyle of
discipling others, and such is
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our guest today.
Before I introduce
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him, I just want to
take this opportunity
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to thank you from
the bottom of our hearts
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for your prayers
and your love and your
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financial
support, because it is YOU
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that makes this
ministry possible-not only to
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reach around the
world, the lost and the
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suffering, but to
showcase ministries
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like that of
today, which is Riverside
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Farm Institute, and
our special guest is Alan
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Knowles, who is the
director of outreach
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for Riverside Farm
Institute. We're so
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glad you're here.
- Thank you. - Now,
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Alan, we're going to
first have some music,
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but I know-because
I've talked with you
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for a few
minutes- that in 1985, you
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went to Africa on
your first missionary
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journey, and you're
still there. - Still
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there. - That is
amazing, and we're
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anxious to hear
your story and to hear
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what Riverside Farm
Institute is all about.
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But before we
do that, I know you
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like music and I
know that YOU like music,
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so we have John Stoddart with us
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today. He is going
to play the piano and
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sing, "Come Thou
Fount," one of my
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favorite songs.
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Come, Thou Fount
of every blessing
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Tune my heart to sing Your grace
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Streams of mercy, never ceasing
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Call for songs
for louder springs
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And teach me ever to adore Thee
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May I still thy goodness prove
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Rather hope of endless glory
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Fills my heart with joy and love
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Ohh...
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Here, I raise my Ebenezer
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Here there by Thy
great help I've come
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And I hope, by Thy good pleasure
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Safely to arrive at home
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Jesus sought me when a stranger
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Wandering from the throne of God
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He, to rescue me from danger
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Interposed His precious blood
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His precious blood
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Ooh...
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Yeah...
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Oh, to grace how great a debtor
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Daily I'm constrained to be
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Let that goodness like a fetter
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Draw me closer, Lord, to Thee
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Prone to wander, Lord, I feel it
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Prone to leave the God I love
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So here's my heart,
Lord, take and seal it
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Seal it for Your courts above
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Prone to wander, Lord, I feel it
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Prone to leave the God I love
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I love...
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Here's my heart,
Lord, take and seal it
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Seal it for Your courts above
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Seal it for Your courts above
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Seal it for Your courts above
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Ooh...
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Seal it for Your courts above
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Well, that was
John Stoddart and a very
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interesting and
unique rendition of
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"Come Thou
Fount." If you're joining
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us just a moment
late, our special guest
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today is Alan
Knowles. He is the director
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of outreach for Riverside Farm
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Institute in
Zambia. Before we get into
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the ministry that
God called you to,
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let's get to know
Alan just a little bit.
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Did you grow up
in a Christian home?
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Tell us a little of your story.
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My mom and dad were
Seventh-Day Adventists
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when I was born,
and I'm born and raised
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Seventh-Day
Adventist. - Well, you weren't
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BORN a
Seventh-Day Adventist; you had
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to become one. But
you were reared in a
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Seventh-Day
Adventist Christian home. Okay,
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so when did-
sometimes, I think that people
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who've been
brought up in this movement
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take things so
much for granted, and
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sometimes, it's
kind of like they feel
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they've inherited
it. When did God become
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real to you? When
did Christ become real
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to you? - I think
it was after I had
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married. I mean,
God was real to me
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as a young person
growing up, but after
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I got married, my
wife and I went to
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a missionary
training school in Southern
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New Hampshire. It
was there, I met some
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folks who really
pointed me to the
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service aspect of
Christianity. - Praise
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God. Now- - And turned my life
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in that direction.
- All right; so you
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were in this
training school, I believe you
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said, for 3 years.
- That's right. - Were
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you planning on overseas mission
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work, or was this
more local? - When
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I was a young
kid in grade school,
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I remember writing
a little report that
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I wanted to be a
missionary, you know?
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Didn't even really
know what that was, except
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for, maybe, some
missionaries would
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come to church or
something. It was at
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that training
school we were learning
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to be
missionaries at home. Learning
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to do cooking schools-
five-day plans back then-
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missionary- raise
up a church in a dark
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county; that kind
of thing. That was our
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intent. - But
God had other plans,
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didn't He? - Had
other plans. - Okay,
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so tell us- how
did- what was your
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profession, first of
all? - I'm a builder,
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carpenter, by
trade. - All right. You are
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married, have two
little boys by now;
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when did you get
the call to Zambia?
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- I would say we got
the call-a call in 1983,
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which was a year
after we had been to the
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mission training
school. My wife and
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I looked at each
other and we said,
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"No way."
[laughter] Then, we spent our
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training time
there. Probably a year
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later, my wife
said, "What do you think,
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if we should go
overseas?" I said,
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"No... No." And then maybe a
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few months later,
I would say, "Well,
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I've been
thinking about it, Pauline.
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Maybe we should
go." She would say, "No,
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I think it'd be
safer to have my kids
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stay here." - As
the boys were little,
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weren't they? -
Then in, probably, 1984
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(and a half), we
both got the same
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idea together and
we said, "There's a
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call. There's a
somebody- there's
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a need in
Zambia." My brother-in-law
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had been there,
and he was calling me
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every so often,
"You should come."
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- But we know
where the real call came
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from. [laughs]
Okay, so the boys were
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2 and 6 years old when you-
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- 3 and 6. - 3
and 6 when you went to
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Zambia in 1985.
Tell us about- what was
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your first
impression of Riverside Farm
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Institute? Tell us-
just kind of give us
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a little of the
history of that ministry.
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- Well, we
didn't really know where
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Zambia was at
the beginning of that
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call. We
researched it and did a good
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study of where we
were going, but we
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weren't ready for
anything, and when we
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got there, life was
completely different
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than we ever expected
it. In fact, I remember
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on my desk, I
had a calendar and I
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had marked days
left before my term was
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up. I remember it
going from a thousand
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days left to 999
days left. Imagine.
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I was waiting to go home, but my
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wife said, "No...
No. We've been called
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here. Don't even
count." And it didn't
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take long. I
don't remember any more
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numbers. My wife
was my inspiration
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to stay. God
turned my eyes away from
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how I felt to the
needs that were around.
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- Yeah. So,
Riverside Farm- let's just
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back up before
you tell us about the
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history there.
Tell us about Zambia in
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general. 'Cause,
obviously, this was
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a shock to your
system. You weren't
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quite prepared for this. - When
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we came in 1985, Zambia was in a
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one-president-for-life
political system, and
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it wasn't long
before that changed. We were
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thankful for that
change. But during that time,
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the economy was
very poor. We weren't
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able to buy
very much in town. We
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just ate what
we grew, basically.
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A few
necessities were available in
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town, but sometimes
they weren't available.
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It was a rough
economy at that time, and
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poverty was all around. Being a
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Third World
Country, or a developing
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country, it had
some growing to do.
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- What were the people
like? - Well, Zambia is
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known as a
friendly, warm country, and
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for sure, we
experienced that from the people
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we worked with,
people that lived
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around Riverside
Farm- we just enjoyed their
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openness, their
happiness, they're-
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I wouldn't say
content with poverty, but they
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understood that
happiness is more
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important than prosperity. And
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not that they had
a big choice in the
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matter, but they
had a choice whether to
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be happy or not.
They were an inspiration
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to me. - So,
give us the history of
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Riverside Farm
Institute, 'cause it's
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been around quite
a while. - It has. In
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short, in 1974,
an American doctor
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who lived on the
property there-or
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in Zambia-an American
Adventist self-supporting
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doctor wanted to have a training
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school for
Zambians: evangelism and
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agriculture
mixed together. So, he
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called for help, and
5 families from Wildwood
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came over to
Foster's Farm (it was called
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Foster's Farm at
that time-J.G. Foster was
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the owner. During
those early days, they were
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chopping out
wilderness and started growing
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food in training
and started a school
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of evangelism for
Zambians. - Praise
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God. So, when we're
talking about a school
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of evangelism...
First of all, what is- the
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majority of the
people in Zambia-
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what is their
religious practice? - There's
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a lot of demon
possession and demon worship
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that goes on there. -
A lot of spiritualism.
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- Christianity is
the religion of the
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country.
Pronounced that way, "We're a
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Christian nation,"
but it's mixed with
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spiritualism. -
So, you've got the
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witch doctors... This
type of thing? - We do.
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And the curses, the
anti-curses, remedies
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for curses... People
live in a lot of fear
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and interpretation of
what's going to happen
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to them and their
children and how to
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care for them. Part
of our education is to
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teach them God's
way. God has a way of
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healing, God has a
way of living, and so
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those things have
to be adapted to their
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lifestyle, but to
turn their eyes from the
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scary evil of
Satan's work to the
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Heavenly Father,
that He's the One
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who can take care
of us, He's the One
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who's going to
deliver us, He's the
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One who will
heal our children and
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teach them and
save them one day in an
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eternal kingdom. That's the hope
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that they need.
- You know, Alan, I
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just have to
say this to everyone
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at home. When you
live in a developed
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country, we don't
recognize, sometimes-
00:17:51.23\00:17:54.57
people will roll
their eyes if you talk about
00:17:54.60\00:17:57.94
demonic oppression
and possession, but
00:17:58.01\00:18:01.44
every missionary
I've talked with, everyone
00:18:01.54\00:18:04.95
I know who lives
in Africa or Haiti or
00:18:05.01\00:18:09.18
some of these
places, it is very real,
00:18:09.28\00:18:12.25
it can be very
powerful, and it's a force to
00:18:12.35\00:18:14.92
be dealt with. But
we just praise God.
00:18:14.99\00:18:17.46
1 John 4:4, "Greater
is He who's in us than
00:18:17.53\00:18:20.06
he who is in
the world." So, this
00:18:20.16\00:18:24.33
began, but what is
the ministry? I mean,
00:18:24.43\00:18:28.90
here, 1974, we've
got these pioneering
00:18:28.97\00:18:32.97
families over
there; but what is the
00:18:33.01\00:18:34.58
ministry of Riverside
Institute? - Of course,
00:18:34.64\00:18:38.91
the ministry would
center around preparing
00:18:38.95\00:18:43.42
people for Jesus
to come. So, to do
00:18:43.52\00:18:46.22
that, there are
several ways, of course; we
00:18:46.29\00:18:48.32
know that from
our educational system
00:18:48.39\00:18:51.83
here in America. Even
our goal as Adventists
00:18:51.93\00:18:55.26
to train them means
to give them something
00:18:55.33\00:18:58.57
in their hands, give
them something in their
00:18:58.70\00:19:00.94
minds so that they
can use that to both
00:19:01.00\00:19:04.17
prepare themselves
and help others to see
00:19:04.27\00:19:06.74
that this life
is temporary. Jesus
00:19:06.84\00:19:11.05
is coming. This
is what we need to be
00:19:11.11\00:19:13.45
ready for. - Okay.
So, give us what kind of
00:19:13.52\00:19:17.22
programs you're
running there. - We
00:19:17.29\00:19:19.12
have four major
classes and they run
00:19:19.15\00:19:21.12
in 5-month seminars.
Evangelism training is
00:19:21.19\00:19:25.36
our highlight.
That's a 5-month program to
00:19:25.39\00:19:29.10
learn how to do
evangelism, but also
00:19:29.16\00:19:33.60
how to run
churches. There's only- let's
00:19:33.64\00:19:38.04
put it this way. A
pastor might have 40
00:19:38.17\00:19:41.14
congregations to take
care of, so the elders
00:19:41.24\00:19:45.71
in the churches- - And these are
00:19:45.78\00:19:47.85
Adventist
Christians. - The elders
00:19:47.92\00:19:51.75
in these churches
basically are the pastors
00:19:51.82\00:19:54.06
and have to run
and organize the church
00:19:54.12\00:19:56.12
and encourage
people, so they need training
00:19:56.22\00:19:58.13
how to do that-how
to be a pastor without
00:19:58.19\00:20:00.96
being a pastor
to help the pastor.
00:20:01.06\00:20:03.83
So, our
training teaches them how
00:20:03.93\00:20:05.93
to be church administrators,
local church administrators,
00:20:06.00\00:20:09.40
and how to present
the gospel to their
00:20:09.47\00:20:13.04
congregations on
a weekly basis. So,
00:20:13.07\00:20:16.04
evangelism. Then, we
have lifestyle educator,
00:20:16.14\00:20:19.45
which takes
people from thinking that
00:20:19.55\00:20:24.02
white bread and
soda is the best thing we
00:20:24.99\00:20:27.99
can get for our
lunch, and to go to the witch
00:20:28.09\00:20:32.03
doctor to get our
children better to
00:20:32.09\00:20:33.90
teach them good
food, good health
00:20:33.96\00:20:36.56
habits, and how
you can, with simple
00:20:36.67\00:20:40.30
remedies, help your
children to overcome
00:20:40.37\00:20:43.61
this common, simple-
remedies. So, lifestyle
00:20:43.67\00:20:47.24
educator. Then,
we have a tailoring
00:20:47.31\00:20:49.84
class that
teaches ladies how to sew
00:20:49.91\00:20:53.95
and gives them a
trade. They sew on treadle
00:20:54.02\00:20:58.65
sewing machines.
- Aw, my grandmother
00:20:58.72\00:21:01.52
had one of those.
That's how I learned
00:21:01.59\00:21:03.09
to sew. - Because
there's not electricity
00:21:03.16\00:21:04.49
in many places
where they'll go, so that
00:21:04.53\00:21:07.10
will help them, and
they can support their
00:21:07.16\00:21:09.76
family, make
clothes for their children,
00:21:09.86\00:21:11.60
and so forth like
that. We teach agriculture,
00:21:11.63\00:21:15.90
or gardening, so
that people can take
00:21:15.97\00:21:18.47
that back home, do
their evangelism in
00:21:18.57\00:21:21.24
church or
whatever, but support their
00:21:21.31\00:21:22.78
family and grow
better gardens than just
00:21:22.88\00:21:24.91
the traditional
methods that are used around
00:21:25.01\00:21:27.75
the country. -
Okay, but where do- you
00:21:27.82\00:21:30.45
said take it back
home, so it's not just
00:21:30.52\00:21:32.02
people in the
local area; it's people
00:21:32.09\00:21:34.26
from all over
Zambia. - That's right. - How
00:21:34.29\00:21:36.46
do your students
learn of this and
00:21:36.49\00:21:40.00
where do they stay if
they come for 5 months?
00:21:40.06\00:21:42.40
- Well, we have dormitories on
00:21:42.46\00:21:43.83
the campus, and
we take 12 students
00:21:43.87\00:21:47.07
in each of those
classes, so there's
00:21:47.14\00:21:48.64
about 50 students
each 5-month seminar.
00:21:48.70\00:21:52.04
They come from around
the whole country. Our
00:21:52.11\00:21:56.88
pioneer Bible workers are out in
00:21:56.95\00:22:00.62
the far reaches,
and they do a lot of the
00:22:00.68\00:22:02.25
sending students to us. We also,
00:22:02.32\00:22:05.52
on the weekends, we send our-
00:22:05.55\00:22:07.52
- So, would you say
that- I mean, you've
00:22:07.62\00:22:09.06
got a boarding
school, in a sense, but this
00:22:09.12\00:22:12.63
is not for high
school and under.
00:22:12.69\00:22:15.36
This is for
people who have already
00:22:15.43\00:22:17.20
received their- -
Passed high school.
00:22:17.30\00:22:19.10
A lot of the young
people have finished
00:22:19.13\00:22:23.30
high school and
are waiting for funding
00:22:23.41\00:22:25.64
for college or
something like that. In between
00:22:25.74\00:22:27.38
them, I come to
Riverside and get
00:22:27.48\00:22:29.44
some good health
education, evangelism,
00:22:29.51\00:22:32.38
or trade. - So
Alan, how many people
00:22:32.45\00:22:37.19
are in staff at Riverside Farm?
00:22:37.29\00:22:40.19
- In our
supervisor role is about 25
00:22:40.26\00:22:45.86
who live on
campus- 25 Zambian families
00:22:45.93\00:22:49.00
along with the 3
missionary families.
00:22:49.06\00:22:52.63
- Okay, but I
know you have several
00:22:52.70\00:22:54.60
hundred acres.
Who's farming this? - We
00:22:54.70\00:22:56.91
have a
commercial farm and it takes
00:22:57.01\00:22:58.97
a lot of hand
labor, so there's a hundred
00:22:59.04\00:23:01.51
workers who come
in every day to do
00:23:01.58\00:23:04.65
the farmwork
from hoeing, planting,
00:23:04.71\00:23:09.22
harvesting, and
sending foods to the market.
00:23:09.28\00:23:13.52
- Okay, so we see
a picture here. It's
00:23:13.59\00:23:15.39
a beautiful
property. - It's 500 acres
00:23:15.42\00:23:18.89
that are
irrigated. You can see we
00:23:18.93\00:23:22.00
have center pivots
there. We're growing
00:23:22.03\00:23:24.03
wheat and soybeans
in these areas, then
00:23:24.10\00:23:28.70
our campus- you
can see the river there
00:23:28.80\00:23:30.77
in the picture.
That's where we get our
00:23:30.87\00:23:33.07
water for irrigation.
The Lord has blessed.
00:23:33.14\00:23:36.04
This property is
one of the closest farms
00:23:36.14\00:23:40.28
to the capital
city, so our crops are
00:23:40.35\00:23:45.05
easily sold. -
These are banana trees,
00:23:45.12\00:23:47.69
right? - These
are banana trees. - We
00:23:47.76\00:23:49.22
just saw the
wheat. What is the yield-
00:23:49.32\00:23:51.29
what kind of a
yield do you get there?
00:23:51.36\00:23:53.60
- There are 500 tons
in our- I think it's 100
00:23:53.63\00:23:59.63
acres, so... I
don't know how to convert
00:23:59.67\00:24:02.00
that to bushels and
acres and stuff, but
00:24:02.07\00:24:04.67
we grow
commercial wheat crop every
00:24:04.74\00:24:07.61
year. - And then
you sell this and those
00:24:07.68\00:24:11.45
funds help
support... - That's right; pay
00:24:11.55\00:24:13.82
the teachers and
support the students.
00:24:13.88\00:24:17.09
The students only
pay a small tuition
00:24:17.15\00:24:18.79
that covers their
food. The education
00:24:18.92\00:24:21.76
program is
available for any Zambian who
00:24:21.82\00:24:24.39
wants to come. -
Mmkay. I think we had a few
00:24:24.46\00:24:27.16
more pictures of some
of your classes. Let's
00:24:27.20\00:24:29.40
look at those. - Might
just add on the bananas;
00:24:29.46\00:24:31.87
that's our biggest
crop. We have, probably,
00:24:31.93\00:24:35.07
about 7 million
bananas a year we sell. - Wow.
00:24:35.10\00:24:39.87
Now, this, obviously,
is the tailoring class.
00:24:39.94\00:24:42.78
- Yeah. You can see
the treadle machines
00:24:42.88\00:24:44.58
there, and these
ladies come for 5
00:24:44.68\00:24:46.18
months. When they
come, most of them
00:24:46.28\00:24:48.18
don't know
anything about sewing. When
00:24:48.28\00:24:50.09
they're done,
they can actually make
00:24:50.15\00:24:51.49
a suit for their
husbands or their
00:24:51.59\00:24:53.66
fathers. - So,
this gives them a means
00:24:53.72\00:24:55.82
of livelihood, if
you will. - All the
00:24:55.92\00:24:58.49
children wear
school uniforms, so they
00:24:58.56\00:25:00.26
can do a little business at home
00:25:00.33\00:25:01.80
making school uniforms. Mhm,
00:25:01.83\00:25:04.40
simple things
like that. - Now, what
00:25:04.43\00:25:05.93
is this
picture? - Our evangelism
00:25:06.00\00:25:07.57
class teaches
young men the skills of,
00:25:07.64\00:25:12.24
like I said, to
be administrators in
00:25:12.31\00:25:16.75
churches. These men
will go out into the
00:25:16.78\00:25:21.02
far reaches and
help the local pastors
00:25:21.08\00:25:23.45
in places where
the pastors can't even
00:25:23.49\00:25:26.59
reach. Some of
them have to walk for
00:25:26.65\00:25:28.19
two days to get
to where these Bible
00:25:28.22\00:25:31.46
workers are
actually stationed and are
00:25:31.49\00:25:33.50
working. - It's
such dedication. Do you
00:25:33.56\00:25:35.60
call these your
pioneer Bible workers? - This
00:25:35.63\00:25:37.67
is our pioneer
Bible workers. We have 50
00:25:37.73\00:25:39.23
of them in the
far reaches (I said)
00:25:39.33\00:25:41.20
of Zambia that we
support. - And how
00:25:41.30\00:25:44.21
do you sup- do
they get sponsored? - We
00:25:44.31\00:25:46.51
are looking for
sponsors for these young men
00:25:46.57\00:25:50.75
at $100 a month.
That takes care of just
00:25:50.81\00:25:54.55
their ministry.
They still have to farm
00:25:54.65\00:25:58.75
themselves and to
support their families
00:25:58.85\00:26:02.12
and send their kids
to school. This is a
00:26:02.19\00:26:03.83
ministry support that
we give them. - That's
00:26:03.89\00:26:07.10
amazing. So,
when you've got 50 out
00:26:07.20\00:26:11.40
there (now), these
are the men who are
00:26:11.43\00:26:13.80
helping do church
plants, overcoming- now, tell
00:26:13.90\00:26:19.77
me if this is
true, because I have
00:26:19.84\00:26:21.31
heard this. The
particular Sunday
00:26:21.38\00:26:26.41
denomination is
there that- it has quite
00:26:26.51\00:26:31.02
a good membership;
but in that particular
00:26:31.05\00:26:35.06
denomination, they
don't worry about if
00:26:35.12\00:26:38.99
people are still
using the witch doctors.
00:26:39.03\00:26:41.16
They just want
them to come to church
00:26:41.20\00:26:42.53
then go do
whatever they want to do.
00:26:42.56\00:26:44.10
Right? So, when you,
then- when your people are
00:26:44.13\00:26:47.47
going out, we're
teaching them that
00:26:47.57\00:26:49.50
the witch doctor
is- you're on the wrong
00:26:49.57\00:26:54.24
side of power.
Right? How difficult is that
00:26:54.34\00:26:57.95
to overcome? - I'd say it's very
00:26:58.01\00:27:00.92
difficult. It's generation after
00:27:00.98\00:27:03.49
generation,
Satan has done his work
00:27:03.65\00:27:07.22
to create in the
whole thought pattern
00:27:07.29\00:27:11.89
that he's the
one that helps you.
00:27:11.96\00:27:14.93
So, it's a
struggle, but these men are
00:27:15.00\00:27:17.07
determined.
Their lives with their
00:27:17.10\00:27:20.10
wives and their families are the
00:27:20.17\00:27:22.00
example for them.
So, that's the challenge
00:27:22.04\00:27:25.07
that they have-
to be examples that
00:27:25.14\00:27:27.68
Jesus is the One
who takes care of their
00:27:27.78\00:27:30.28
children and takes care of their
00:27:30.35\00:27:31.68
diseases-not the
witch doctor. - Amen.
00:27:31.71\00:27:34.45
- It's difficult.
- So, when they go
00:27:34.55\00:27:37.89
out and they're
preaching, they're
00:27:38.02\00:27:42.52
having great
success as far as baptism.
00:27:42.66\00:27:45.69
What- I think we've
got some more pictures
00:27:45.79\00:27:48.33
that we'd like
to show you of them-
00:27:48.36\00:27:50.00
the pioneer
Bible workers who are
00:27:50.07\00:27:52.77
preaching. Then
what happens after they
00:27:52.83\00:27:57.47
preach? - It's
two things that go on
00:27:57.57\00:28:00.14
with evangelism. One
is there's a need for a
00:28:00.18\00:28:05.01
church building,
and the other is a need
00:28:05.11\00:28:08.78
to educate the
children. So, in the past,
00:28:08.85\00:28:13.62
you can see baptisms
are in simple, humble
00:28:13.69\00:28:17.66
places and
hundreds are baptized each
00:28:17.73\00:28:19.56
evangelistic
meeting. The children are
00:28:19.59\00:28:25.43
going to come. That
school building that
00:28:25.50\00:28:28.40
you just saw,
One-Day School, has been a
00:28:28.47\00:28:30.94
means of
evangelism. The children can get
00:28:31.01\00:28:35.14
educated in
Seventh-Day Adventist schools.
00:28:35.18\00:28:37.71
That's going to be
a tool that will, in
00:28:37.75\00:28:42.28
time, be the
strength of our church.- Okay;
00:28:42.38\00:28:46.29
so these men are
going out and beating the
00:28:46.35\00:28:47.89
bushes, if you
will, or they're out in
00:28:47.92\00:28:49.66
the bush. They,
obviously, are having-
00:28:49.72\00:28:52.63
the Lord is
blessing in great success.
00:28:52.69\00:28:55.23
When you start
this one-day school-
00:28:55.26\00:28:59.03
I mean, when you
say "one-day school,"
00:28:59.13\00:29:00.54
you're talking about
a school that's actually
00:29:00.57\00:29:01.94
constructed in one
day. - That's right.
00:29:02.00\00:29:04.97
- Then, how long,
though- I mean, what...
00:29:05.04\00:29:07.64
Is that an
automatic thing? "Okay, we've
00:29:09.08\00:29:11.65
got all these
people baptized. We need a
00:29:11.75\00:29:13.65
school." How does
this happen? - Well,
00:29:13.68\00:29:15.42
funding is needed
for building schools.
00:29:15.48\00:29:18.55
I'd just like to
say thank you to 3ABN
00:29:18.62\00:29:21.02
and its listeners
for the support that
00:29:21.12\00:29:23.32
they have been.
We were able to put
00:29:23.39\00:29:25.33
13 one-day
preschools. The government kind
00:29:25.36\00:29:30.87
of controls
grades 1 and up, but the
00:29:30.97\00:29:34.94
preschool- our
church can actually own and
00:29:35.00\00:29:38.51
operate and use
Seventh-Day Adventist
00:29:38.57\00:29:40.64
teachers to teach
the young people in
00:29:40.68\00:29:42.51
preschool. So,
3ABN had sponsored 12 of
00:29:42.58\00:29:46.55
these schools that
we built (for these
00:29:46.65\00:29:48.75
pioneers
especially). The foundation of
00:29:48.82\00:29:51.15
children-
education is the foundation
00:29:51.19\00:29:54.52
for eternity. -
Amen. Amen. But then these
00:29:54.62\00:29:57.69
schools kind of
become centers of influence-
00:29:57.76\00:30:00.23
centers of
evangelism, right? 'Cause if you
00:30:00.30\00:30:03.23
can reach the
kids... - That's it. You can
00:30:03.30\00:30:05.13
reach the parents
you've interested.
00:30:05.20\00:30:06.97
So with that, the
next step is, there's
00:30:07.04\00:30:10.14
a congregation
after the baptism. They
00:30:10.21\00:30:12.41
need a place to
worship. We have a picture
00:30:12.51\00:30:15.88
here of what kind
of a worship place
00:30:15.94\00:30:20.05
we would find in
a typical area in
00:30:20.15\00:30:22.12
Zambia. A rundown;
grass-thatched. Rain
00:30:22.22\00:30:26.79
comes in,
everyone has to move to the
00:30:26.86\00:30:28.96
sides of the
church or whatever, and
00:30:29.06\00:30:31.29
the people are
eagerly waiting for
00:30:31.36\00:30:35.00
a new church. -
Yeah. - The team will come.
00:30:35.10\00:30:40.97
These Bible workers
will give us a call,
00:30:41.04\00:30:43.61
and our team from
Riverside will come
00:30:43.67\00:30:45.24
as we get sponsorship
for one-day churches.
00:30:45.34\00:30:48.34
I'd just like to
show a little picture
00:30:48.38\00:30:51.08
here of how our
team works. We have a
00:30:51.15\00:30:55.52
video roll that we
can put on right now. When
00:30:55.58\00:31:00.06
we arrive at the
site, the church members
00:31:00.12\00:31:03.36
are there to
help us and they take
00:31:03.43\00:31:06.63
instruction. The
church goes up in
00:31:06.70\00:31:09.50
no time. One
interesting story: we had a
00:31:09.56\00:31:12.73
young man who was
going by in the morning
00:31:12.80\00:31:15.07
with his bicycle
and he saw our truck
00:31:15.17\00:31:16.91
there. He drove by,
looking and wondering
00:31:17.01\00:31:20.31
what these
people were going to do
00:31:20.38\00:31:21.91
there. At noon
time, when he came back
00:31:21.94\00:31:23.68
on his bicycle, he
was just pedaling by and
00:31:23.78\00:31:27.08
he looked. There's the
church building already
00:31:27.15\00:31:30.75
up. He's looking
at it as he's driving,
00:31:30.82\00:31:33.52
and he crashed into
the side of the road
00:31:33.56\00:31:35.52
and fell right
over, got up, and said,
00:31:35.59\00:31:37.66
"Where did that
come from?" - You know,
00:31:37.69\00:31:39.76
it is amazing. The
one-day church project
00:31:39.83\00:31:42.26
is amazing. Praise
God for the work that
00:31:42.36\00:31:46.74
they're doing around
the world. But this is
00:31:46.80\00:31:49.37
something that we
see the local people are
00:31:49.44\00:31:52.61
excited to come out
and help you, because
00:31:52.67\00:31:54.58
they so want a
place where they can be
00:31:54.68\00:31:59.65
proud to go to
worship and something
00:31:59.71\00:32:01.35
that honors the
Lord, right? - And they
00:32:01.45\00:32:03.12
become owners of it
as they work for it.
00:32:03.18\00:32:05.95
- I think you
brought us a picture- what it
00:32:05.99\00:32:08.82
looked like when it
was finished. Quite a
00:32:08.89\00:32:11.03
difference. That's
lovely. - That replaced
00:32:11.09\00:32:14.13
that old scraggly-
looking church where
00:32:14.23\00:32:17.03
they had to duck
when the rains came. Now,
00:32:17.10\00:32:20.74
they have a place
of influence; connects
00:32:20.80\00:32:23.61
them to the outside
world, is an influence
00:32:23.67\00:32:26.81
in their village,
maybe the first tin roof
00:32:26.91\00:32:30.68
in the whole
village. You know, not that
00:32:30.78\00:32:34.38
we want people to
come for the loaves
00:32:34.48\00:32:36.89
and fishes, we
say, but if people will
00:32:36.99\00:32:40.22
come to church
because you have a tin roof,
00:32:40.32\00:32:44.73
it gives an
opportunity for them to hear
00:32:44.76\00:32:47.10
the gospel then. -
Amen. - So, it's a tool.
00:32:47.13\00:32:50.13
It's one of the
many tools of evangelism.
00:32:50.20\00:32:52.47
Such a blessing,
that program. - But,
00:32:52.53\00:32:55.24
now, some of the
evangelism- we have
00:32:55.30\00:32:57.77
friends that are
missionaries in Zambia,
00:32:57.84\00:33:00.98
as well. I know that
there's a lot of people
00:33:01.04\00:33:04.68
who live along
the rivers, so tell us
00:33:04.71\00:33:08.05
about that
outreach. - Some of our Bible
00:33:08.08\00:33:11.72
workers, like I
said, live places where
00:33:11.82\00:33:13.89
the pastors
can't get, and one of
00:33:13.96\00:33:15.66
these in particular
lives on the Zambezi
00:33:15.72\00:33:18.33
River, upstream.
They really have quite a
00:33:18.43\00:33:23.13
challenge to go to
church. During part
00:33:23.23\00:33:27.00
of this year,
there's flooding in the area.
00:33:27.07\00:33:31.31
The river floods
for part of the year and
00:33:31.41\00:33:33.34
they have to use
canoes. They actually
00:33:33.41\00:33:34.84
live out there on
little high-elevated
00:33:34.94\00:33:38.08
areas, and the river
is around their houses.
00:33:38.15\00:33:40.95
They'll come out
in the rainy season
00:33:41.02\00:33:43.89
and come out of
their house, and there's
00:33:43.92\00:33:46.09
the river- it's around them, so
00:33:46.19\00:33:48.72
they have to
step into their canoe.
00:33:48.79\00:33:50.33
We'll have a picture
of one of their churches
00:33:50.43\00:33:52.73
here that, in the
rainy season, this is
00:33:52.83\00:33:56.06
what their
church looks like. They
00:33:56.16\00:33:59.53
can come out of
their house and paddle to
00:33:59.63\00:34:02.70
church, and they
won't find anybody
00:34:02.77\00:34:04.67
there because
who's going to come to
00:34:04.71\00:34:06.07
church when you
can't even get into the...
00:34:06.17\00:34:09.74
- Yeah. Just stay
in your canoe. - So,
00:34:09.81\00:34:13.11
the next picture
we'll show is when they do
00:34:13.18\00:34:15.45
come. They're
standing in their canoes,
00:34:15.52\00:34:19.12
wondering- and
they have to be careful
00:34:19.15\00:34:22.32
when they come out
of their houses into
00:34:22.36\00:34:23.73
their canoes.
There's crocodiles that are
00:34:23.79\00:34:26.06
cruising along in
their little villages
00:34:26.13\00:34:28.76
here. You can
see the raised mounds
00:34:28.86\00:34:32.37
and all around it.
Everywhere around...
00:34:32.40\00:34:34.34
So, here, the
people are saying, "Look at
00:34:34.40\00:34:38.41
our church!" when
we came to visit there.
00:34:38.47\00:34:40.44
We really are
squeezed and we can't even
00:34:40.48\00:34:45.45
worship there in
some parts of the area,
00:34:45.51\00:34:47.52
so we called our
team from Riverside to
00:34:47.55\00:34:49.75
come and help us
with a one-day church.
00:34:49.82\00:34:53.05
When we arrive
off the riverbanks,
00:34:53.15\00:34:58.33
the church members
are there, helping us
00:34:58.43\00:35:01.53
carry all the
materials. - Even the mommas.
00:35:01.66\00:35:05.13
- Even the mommas there from the
00:35:05.20\00:35:06.53
cradle roll
department have their helping
00:35:06.57\00:35:10.71
hands to carry
them. There's a ton of
00:35:10.77\00:35:14.24
materials that need
to be carried. People
00:35:14.31\00:35:17.68
can't carry them
all, so what do we have?
00:35:17.75\00:35:20.18
No cars, no jeeps,
no trucks; the oxen
00:35:20.25\00:35:25.55
are doing the work
here. - So it probably
00:35:25.65\00:35:28.42
takes- it is long
to get the materials
00:35:28.46\00:35:31.79
down the river
and unloaded as it is
00:35:31.86\00:35:35.13
to build the
church, 'cause when we say
00:35:35.20\00:35:37.13
"one-day church,"
they literally go up
00:35:37.17\00:35:39.23
in a day. - It took
us a day to go up the
00:35:39.33\00:35:42.84
river, unload it,
and get all the materials
00:35:42.90\00:35:45.64
on site. Then the
next day, church was up.
00:35:45.71\00:35:50.51
A miracle. It was
the first tin roof in
00:35:50.58\00:35:52.55
this whole area, in
the village. This village
00:35:52.58\00:35:57.35
was then a place
where it's a sacred
00:35:57.39\00:36:02.12
village. This is
our evangelism. You can
00:36:02.16\00:36:05.29
see- - Now, that isn't the
00:36:05.33\00:36:06.66
same place, is
it? - That's the same
00:36:06.73\00:36:08.53
place. - That's
the same place, so it
00:36:08.56\00:36:10.17
looks like a new
church now. That's
00:36:10.20\00:36:12.50
during the
rainy season! - In the
00:36:12.57\00:36:14.50
dry season, it's
dry and sandy. It's a
00:36:14.60\00:36:16.97
mile from the
river to where the church
00:36:17.07\00:36:18.91
is. In the rainy
season, you have to
00:36:18.97\00:36:20.91
use a canoe to
get to church. We call
00:36:20.98\00:36:23.11
that the Canoe
Church. - Wow. That's amazing.
00:36:23.18\00:36:26.21
- So, people will
then come with their
00:36:26.31\00:36:28.28
canoes to church if
they have a dry place
00:36:28.35\00:36:30.15
where they can
sit and worship. - So,
00:36:30.22\00:36:33.02
when you think
about some of the stories
00:36:34.42\00:36:37.69
you've heard, or
the people you've met,
00:36:37.76\00:36:39.79
because- you and
your wife went there with
00:36:39.89\00:36:42.66
your two little
babies, 3 and 6 in 1985, and
00:36:42.76\00:36:47.60
I think during
that time, you've only
00:36:47.70\00:36:49.54
come home for a
short period of time while
00:36:49.60\00:36:52.41
your boys were finishing high
00:36:52.44\00:36:54.18
school, right? -
High school- that's
00:36:54.24\00:36:55.58
right. - Now,
what- is there anyone
00:36:55.64\00:36:59.68
in particular that-
I want two questions.
00:36:59.75\00:37:04.42
#1) How has
this changed you, and
00:37:04.49\00:37:07.26
what is one of
the greatest changes?
00:37:07.32\00:37:09.36
If you can look
back, can you think
00:37:09.42\00:37:10.99
of somebody's story
that just will never
00:37:11.06\00:37:14.36
leave you- it's
just indelible? - Well,
00:37:14.40\00:37:18.30
you can't help but,
being changed, when every
00:37:18.37\00:37:21.50
day, you wake up
and go out and there's
00:37:21.57\00:37:25.14
a huge need in
front of you. Oftentimes,
00:37:25.24\00:37:30.25
in this society,
where we live here in
00:37:30.31\00:37:32.38
America, you don't
see a need. You get up
00:37:32.48\00:37:38.19
and you go to
work, and you need to go
00:37:38.25\00:37:39.69
to work. But
people come to our door
00:37:39.75\00:37:43.69
on a regular
basis and ask, "Can you
00:37:43.76\00:37:49.63
help us with food
for today?" My wife
00:37:49.70\00:37:55.40
and I look at
each other on a regular
00:37:55.50\00:37:57.44
basis and say,
"How can we say no?"
00:37:57.47\00:38:00.41
And for a small,
little penance of help,
00:38:00.48\00:38:04.18
they turn around
and go, "Thank you!
00:38:04.25\00:38:08.58
Praise God! You've
saved us for today."
00:38:08.68\00:38:11.82
And it may be
that, tomorrow, they have
00:38:11.92\00:38:14.86
some other
opportunity; but today is what
00:38:14.92\00:38:17.16
they needed something
for. You know, we have
00:38:17.23\00:38:20.56
times in Zambia
where the rain doesn't fall
00:38:20.63\00:38:23.77
and there's
hunger. I had a family that
00:38:23.87\00:38:27.34
walked for 12
miles 'cause they heard
00:38:27.40\00:38:31.14
there was
somebody who was willing to
00:38:31.17\00:38:33.81
help at Riverside.
They came and knocked
00:38:33.91\00:38:36.88
on our door, my
wife answered, and-I
00:38:36.98\00:38:41.98
don't know.
Sometimes, you get overwhelmed.
00:38:42.05\00:38:44.72
She said, "Well,
go see my husband."
00:38:44.82\00:38:47.16
Well, they came
and found me, and I was
00:38:48.39\00:38:50.33
busy doing
something. They sat down behind
00:38:50.43\00:38:55.43
me while I was busy.
I said, "Just a minute."
00:38:55.46\00:38:57.33
Then I get up and
say, "Can I help you?"
00:38:58.80\00:39:00.87
They just said, "We
don't have any food.
00:39:01.00\00:39:03.74
We haven't eaten
for three days and we
00:39:03.81\00:39:06.78
walked all the way
here." I said, "Well,
00:39:06.81\00:39:09.81
I don't know," and I
had something else to
00:39:09.88\00:39:12.28
do, and so I went.
I didn't pay attention
00:39:12.35\00:39:16.32
to this still,
small voice, and I was
00:39:16.38\00:39:18.95
busy doing something
again. I turned around;
00:39:19.09\00:39:20.82
there they were
again right behind
00:39:20.89\00:39:22.22
me. They weren't
going to give up.
00:39:22.26\00:39:23.76
Three times, I
had to move around the
00:39:23.86\00:39:25.63
campus. As an administrator, you
00:39:25.69\00:39:28.10
have to get around
and keep things going.
00:39:28.20\00:39:30.20
They just followed
me and said, "We're
00:39:30.30\00:39:31.97
not going home
until we get some help."
00:39:32.03\00:39:33.90
- Bless their
hearts. - It struck me. God's
00:39:33.94\00:39:38.67
trying to tell
me something here.
00:39:38.74\00:39:40.21
I'm too busy
doing "His work" to just
00:39:40.24\00:39:47.68
listen to people and their today
00:39:47.78\00:39:51.39
need. I said,
"No. I'm going to help
00:39:51.45\00:39:54.06
them," so I sent
them to a certain
00:39:54.12\00:39:56.62
person who could help them with
00:39:56.73\00:39:58.06
some bananas and
some cornmeal-that's
00:39:58.09\00:40:02.33
a basic thing-some
vegetables. They were
00:40:02.40\00:40:05.43
actually leftover
vegetables, 'cause
00:40:05.53\00:40:07.80
we had sold all
the first quality ones.
00:40:07.87\00:40:10.21
They had about 5
sacks of food. There
00:40:10.27\00:40:13.94
was a
grandfather, a mother and a
00:40:14.04\00:40:16.28
father, and 5
children. They took those 2
00:40:16.34\00:40:22.45
sacks of food,
and they said, "We can
00:40:22.52\00:40:24.85
go home now." - You
know, even when we're
00:40:24.92\00:40:27.89
dedicated to the Lord-
I mean, we're not perfect.
00:40:27.96\00:40:31.29
There are times
that it takes us a little
00:40:31.36\00:40:33.13
while to respond
to the Lord's voice. I
00:40:33.19\00:40:36.23
wish we could all learn to just
00:40:36.26\00:40:38.63
respond soon. I
pray that all the time.
00:40:38.70\00:40:41.74
"Lord, make me
sensitive to Your still, small
00:40:41.80\00:40:43.91
voice." But we
can get so busy doing
00:40:44.01\00:40:47.68
good that we can be
ignoring an opportunity
00:40:47.74\00:40:51.55
that the Lord brings
to us; but praise God
00:40:51.65\00:40:54.78
that the Fruit of
the Holy Spirit is love,
00:40:54.82\00:40:57.69
joy, peace,
patience, kindness, goodness,
00:40:57.75\00:40:59.89
gentleness,
meekness, and self-control. So,
00:40:59.95\00:41:03.09
when you see some
of these Bible workers-
00:41:03.16\00:41:08.60
I mean, 50, and
at $100 a month -
00:41:10.83\00:41:15.64
we've got $5,000
right there a month. Are
00:41:15.70\00:41:19.51
they all sponsored,
or you're looking for
00:41:19.57\00:41:21.04
sponsors today? -
We're looking for sponsors
00:41:21.14\00:41:23.45
today. We have a
good number of them
00:41:23.55\00:41:26.95
sponsored, and
others are at their homes
00:41:27.12\00:41:29.98
unsponsored doing
their Bible work as they
00:41:30.05\00:41:33.49
can afford to.
They need help with the
00:41:33.56\00:41:36.36
evangelistic
tools: a bicycle to get
00:41:36.46\00:41:39.63
around, literature
to pass out, a pen;
00:41:39.69\00:41:44.80
they need to buy a
pen so they can help
00:41:44.90\00:41:46.74
mark the Bible
studies. I mean, simple little
00:41:46.84\00:41:49.87
things that are, to
us- pens are on every
00:41:49.94\00:41:53.07
desk. But for
them, a pen is a special
00:41:53.17\00:41:55.64
thing in their
pocket. - Yeah. We're so
00:41:55.71\00:42:01.58
spoiled, aren't
we? - We don't know.
00:42:01.65\00:42:03.25
- All right. So,
and then the other thing
00:42:03.32\00:42:05.59
is, how many
one-day churches- and
00:42:05.65\00:42:09.66
as I said, these
are churches where
00:42:09.72\00:42:12.73
everything comes to
you- all the materials,
00:42:12.79\00:42:14.83
and you must
appreciate this as a builder,
00:42:14.90\00:42:16.90
because they come all
precut; they come ready
00:42:17.00\00:42:20.57
to erect. Literally, these are
00:42:20.64\00:42:23.51
going up. Not just
in Zambia, but around
00:42:23.57\00:42:26.41
the world, they
can be erected in one
00:42:26.44\00:42:29.28
day. Not always the
brick on the outside,
00:42:29.34\00:42:31.78
but the other...
So, how many of those
00:42:31.88\00:42:34.85
are you wanting
to build? - We've
00:42:34.95\00:42:39.12
built around 400 of
them in Zambia already.
00:42:39.19\00:42:43.43
- Wow. - In my
estimation, and with
00:42:43.49\00:42:45.36
the conference
leaders' estimation, there
00:42:45.43\00:42:47.73
are thousands that
are needed. These are
00:42:47.80\00:42:49.90
small congregations
and the rural areas
00:42:49.96\00:42:52.30
that still need
help. We have matching
00:42:52.37\00:42:56.47
funds right now (and
the kits on-site) for
00:42:56.64\00:43:00.14
a hundred churches.
$2,000 matching fund
00:43:00.18\00:43:04.08
for every thousand
dollars that we raise.
00:43:04.15\00:43:07.05
So, $1,000 would
put up one of these kits
00:43:07.15\00:43:10.85
for one of these Bible workers.
00:43:10.92\00:43:12.79
- Unbelievable.
So, let me repeat that.
00:43:12.85\00:43:14.42
You're looking to
fund 100 churches.
00:43:14.49\00:43:17.13
If you raise
1,000, you have matching
00:43:20.56\00:43:23.23
funds for 2,000. So
there are basically 3,000
00:43:23.30\00:43:26.30
a piece, so that's
what you're looking
00:43:26.37\00:43:29.17
for. - And with
that, we can put the
00:43:29.24\00:43:31.34
name of your
Sabbath school class on the
00:43:31.37\00:43:33.84
church, or the
name of your church or
00:43:33.91\00:43:37.11
your group if you
would like that. As part of
00:43:37.18\00:43:39.88
the donation, it
would be a memorial
00:43:39.95\00:43:41.58
to your group in
Zambia until Jesus
00:43:41.68\00:43:45.39
comes. - Amen.
Amen! Well, what we want
00:43:45.45\00:43:48.72
to do is, we're
going to put- you know,
00:43:48.76\00:43:51.73
I believe with all
of my heart- I have
00:43:51.79\00:43:55.53
to tell you; let
me back up. When I was
00:43:55.63\00:43:58.47
a brand new
Adventist- I'd only been an
00:43:58.53\00:44:00.84
Adventist for about
2 months, and I went
00:44:00.87\00:44:06.24
to ASI. As a matter
of fact, that's wehre
00:44:06.34\00:44:10.55
I met Danny
Shelton. He had me on that
00:44:10.61\00:44:14.58
eveming sharing
my testimony, because
00:44:14.68\00:44:16.55
I told him that
3ABN was instrumental in
00:44:16.65\00:44:20.36
bringing me into
the church. I found that
00:44:20.42\00:44:23.56
when I finally
started watching- I found that
00:44:23.59\00:44:26.09
everything God
was teaching me, 3ABN
00:44:26.13\00:44:28.96
was teaching. So the
point is, I'm at ASI.
00:44:29.06\00:44:34.47
I am meeting all of
these wonderful people-
00:44:34.54\00:44:40.28
these wonderful
ministries, and I
00:44:40.34\00:44:43.24
remember that someone
told me about Riverside
00:44:43.35\00:44:46.41
Farm Institute. You
were actually under the
00:44:46.45\00:44:48.88
umbrella of Outpost
Centers International,
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which is a 501c3.
They have so many wonderful
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ministries.
Everybody kept telling me about
00:44:59.76\00:45:05.00
Riverside Farm! I
thought, "This is so
00:45:05.10\00:45:09.67
amazing." I heard
about you when I was a
00:45:09.77\00:45:12.34
brand new
Adventist. The work there has
00:45:12.41\00:45:15.24
impressed so many
people. We want you
00:45:15.31\00:45:19.45
to have the
opportunity. I believe that God
00:45:19.51\00:45:23.18
works in such a
way that there's times
00:45:23.28\00:45:26.96
when we hear something
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and it's not just a pluck of the
00:45:28.46\00:45:29.99
heartstring but we
know God is saying,
00:45:30.06\00:45:32.66
"I want you to help
support this." They're
00:45:32.76\00:45:35.66
looking for
sponsors for some of their
00:45:35.76\00:45:39.47
pioneer Bible
workers who are going places
00:45:39.57\00:45:42.87
that the pastors cannot go. Just
00:45:42.97\00:45:45.77
think-a pastor
having 40 churches. I mean,
00:45:45.84\00:45:48.84
you can barely make
the rounds in a year;
00:45:48.98\00:45:51.65
you know? It's unbelievable. So
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they're reaching so
many souls for Christ,
00:45:54.35\00:45:58.39
and also need a
hundred churches. Right now,
00:45:58.52\00:46:04.19
if you have a
Sabbath school class that
00:46:04.26\00:46:06.19
would like to sponsor
a church to raise $1,000
00:46:06.23\00:46:09.66
and donate to them,
you, really- it's just
00:46:09.73\00:46:14.04
like your money
suddenly tripled 'cause
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they've got
someone with matching funds
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that they will give
$2,000 for every 1,000
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that is donated.
So, if the Holy Spirit
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is impressing upon
your heart to support
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this work, here's
how you can get in
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touch with them.
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- If you would like
to help Riverside Farm
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Institute build
churches in Zambia, you can
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donate online by
visiting OutpostCenters.org
00:46:36.02\00:46:39.19
and clicking on
their Donate button. Then,
00:46:39.29\00:46:41.93
click on the
Ministries menu and select
00:46:42.03\00:46:44.57
Riverside Farm Institute. That
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website, again,
is OutpostCenters.org
00:46:47.07\00:46:49.90
You may also
mail your donation to
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Outpost Centers
5132 Layton Lane, Apison,
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Tennessee 37302.
Please earmark your
00:46:56.54\00:47:00.35
donation to
Riverside Farm churches, and
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thank you for all
you do to help spread
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the gospel.
00:47:05.65\00:47:08.19
You know, these
pioneer Bible workers,
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particularly,
are such a blessing,
00:47:18.40\00:47:22.40
because there's
no way these outlying
00:47:22.47\00:47:25.07
breaches could be
reached. Now, these
00:47:25.14\00:47:28.08
people- are
they recent converts?
00:47:28.14\00:47:31.21
I mean, if
they're going out there to
00:47:31.28\00:47:32.61
combat
witchcraft, or are they people
00:47:32.65\00:47:35.28
who've been
Seventh-Day Adventist Christians
00:47:35.32\00:47:36.89
for some time? - Generally, the
00:47:36.99\00:47:39.52
pioneers will be
seasoned Seventh-Day
00:47:39.55\00:47:42.02
Adventists,
leaders or deacons in their
00:47:42.12\00:47:45.89
church, and they
come to Riverside for
00:47:45.96\00:47:47.56
additional training:
how to manage church,
00:47:47.63\00:47:51.50
counsel people,
and to give them some
00:47:51.57\00:47:55.74
encouragement that
they have a connection
00:47:55.80\00:47:57.77
to something bigger
than just themselves.
00:47:57.84\00:48:00.28
So, some of these
guys will come across
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stories that curl
your blood, or you just
00:48:05.01\00:48:10.25
say, "Praise God for
His miracles/mercies."
00:48:10.69\00:48:14.39
I think of one
particular man who
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was doing ministry
in this area, and the
00:48:19.33\00:48:23.70
chief was
opposing him. This goes all
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the time. The
chief actually told them
00:48:26.87\00:48:31.34
he couldn't do an
evangelistic meeting
00:48:31.41\00:48:33.27
in his village. He
had walked for a whole
00:48:33.38\00:48:37.31
day to get there. He had all his
00:48:37.41\00:48:39.81
equipment there, was ready, and
00:48:39.88\00:48:43.02
advertised. "You
can't evangelistic meeting
00:48:43.08\00:48:47.72
here or I'll have
you arrested." So,
00:48:47.79\00:48:51.79
he decided he'd
better not get arrested,
00:48:51.89\00:48:54.23
so he backed up, went to another
00:48:54.30\00:48:56.40
little village
that was out of his
00:48:56.46\00:48:58.07
jurisdiction, and
did his evangelism. Some
00:48:58.17\00:49:01.50
people were
baptized. He decided in the
00:49:01.57\00:49:03.97
middle, he was
going to go back to this
00:49:04.01\00:49:06.17
village, sneak in,
and tell people that
00:49:06.27\00:49:08.38
there's an
evangelistic meeting in the next
00:49:08.48\00:49:09.88
village! Well, unfortunately (or
00:49:09.94\00:49:13.85
or fortunately),
the chief heard about it
00:49:13.92\00:49:16.72
and he got the
police, or the vigilantes,
00:49:16.79\00:49:20.06
and they arrested
him and actually put
00:49:20.16\00:49:21.82
him in jail for
a couple of days.
00:49:21.86\00:49:23.22
After a couple
of days, he got out
00:49:25.33\00:49:27.26
and went home.
They had beaten him,
00:49:27.43\00:49:29.50
even, just for disrespecting the
00:49:29.60\00:49:32.00
chief. When he got
home, he heard that
00:49:32.10\00:49:35.57
the chief had
fallen sick. Okay, here's
00:49:35.60\00:49:38.07
a story. Chief is
sick; the missionary's
00:49:38.11\00:49:41.31
going to come and
heal him... No, it didn't
00:49:41.38\00:49:44.41
work that way.
He came, and on his
00:49:44.51\00:49:50.45
way, he heard
that the chief died. So
00:49:50.52\00:49:53.86
he said, "Well, now I can do the
00:49:53.92\00:49:57.49
evangelistic
series in the village!"
00:49:57.53\00:50:00.80
Sure enough, there
wasn't anybody else
00:50:00.90\00:50:02.43
opposing him, so
he started up again-
00:50:02.50\00:50:04.97
the second evangelistic
meeting right in that
00:50:05.03\00:50:07.30
village. I don't
know if you can call it
00:50:07.37\00:50:11.37
a miracle that
the chief died, but it
00:50:11.47\00:50:14.34
was some kind of a
miracle. God allowed
00:50:14.41\00:50:16.88
this, and now they
have a congregation
00:50:16.95\00:50:19.81
there with no
church building because the
00:50:19.85\00:50:21.85
chief hadn't
allowed anything. I think
00:50:21.92\00:50:23.95
there was 12 or
13 people baptized
00:50:23.99\00:50:26.45
there, and they're
calling for a one-day
00:50:26.55\00:50:28.62
church right
now. When I get back,
00:50:28.66\00:50:30.69
they want one. -
Amen. And we just
00:50:30.73\00:50:33.33
want to- I'm glad
you mentioned that,
00:50:33.40\00:50:35.90
because we want to say, one more
00:50:35.96\00:50:37.63
time, that right now, you have a
00:50:37.70\00:50:41.30
donor who will
more than match funds.
00:50:41.37\00:50:44.31
You've got double-matching
00:50:44.37\00:50:45.74
funds, so just
$1,000 from our viewers
00:50:45.81\00:50:53.92
and listeners of
3ABN... For every
00:50:53.98\00:50:56.45
$1,000, that is-
and these churches are
00:50:56.48\00:50:59.62
$3,000 each; you
need 100 of them. But
00:50:59.69\00:51:02.82
right now,
you've only gotta raise
00:51:02.89\00:51:05.33
100,000 because
for every thousand you
00:51:05.39\00:51:07.70
raise, somebody
will donate 2,000, and
00:51:07.76\00:51:11.50
that is so amazing
to me, to think that
00:51:11.57\00:51:14.00
$1,000 can help put up a church.
00:51:14.04\00:51:18.04
I'm sure that
you've seen people's lives
00:51:18.14\00:51:21.48
change when they
have these churches.
00:51:21.58\00:51:24.55
- That's right. It's
a tool of evangelism,
00:51:24.61\00:51:26.41
as I've said
before that draws people
00:51:26.45\00:51:30.35
to something
interesting, but then
00:51:30.42\00:51:34.42
they get to hear
the trained Bible
00:51:34.49\00:51:37.19
worker present
to them the gospel;
00:51:37.23\00:51:40.06
the good news:
Jesus is coming, this life
00:51:40.13\00:51:44.00
will end...
There's a lot of hope for
00:51:44.03\00:51:48.37
a third world
person of heaven. - And you
00:51:48.44\00:51:54.08
are helping to
fulfill the Great Commission.
00:51:54.14\00:51:57.25
Well, we are going
to go to our newsbreak
00:51:57.31\00:52:02.12
right now. When we
come back- I forgot
00:52:02.18\00:52:04.72
to ask you about
Pauline, your wife,
00:52:04.79\00:52:06.86
so we'll have
just a closing thought
00:52:06.92\00:52:09.66
in just a moment.
Please stay tuned.
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