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Mending broken people
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Removing pain
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Lord, let my words
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Heal a heart that hurts
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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Hello and welcome to 3ABN Today.
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My name is CA Murray,
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and allow me once
again to thank you
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for spending
just a little of your,
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no doubt, busy day with
us, to thank you for your love,
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your prayers,
your financial support
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of Three Angels
Broadcasting Network,
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as for just shy of 34 years,
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we have been together
in the greatest enterprise
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ever given to the
human hands of men and women,
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that is lifting up the mighty
and matches name of Jesus.
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So when we say thank you,
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we mean it from the
bottom of our hearts
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because we know
and we are convicted
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that we could not do
what we are called to do
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without your assistance,
without your partnership,
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without your
love and your prayers.
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So we do say thank you.
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Today is a very special program,
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and you will forgive me
if I'm excited, yay, giddy
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because of our subject manner
and because of the worthies
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who share this panel
with me on this very day.
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We are excited to talk
about the anatomy of legalism,
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and we're going
to walk through that,
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unpackage that in
just a little bit.
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But to assist in that
task, we've got Ryan Day.
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Ryan, good to have you here man.
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It's good to be here.
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Ryan is the assistant
to the General Manager
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for the Praise Him Channel.
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I like to call him associate.
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I like associate
better. Yes, I do too.
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Associate carries a
little more panache,
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a little more elan,
a little more cachet.
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I just like associate better.
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So I'm changing
your title, Ryan,
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you are now the
associate. Sounds great.
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Yeah, no more
money, but you get...
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That's okay. That's okay.
But you get another title.
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And, of course,
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we have our student of
the Word and fellow traveler,
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this is our
friend, Shelley Quinn.
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Who does so many, many things
and hosts so many programs,
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and she is an author
and a speaker of some note,
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and, Shelley, always
good to have you here.
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Oh, it's always good to be here.
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Yeah.
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I have to say before
I introduce John Dinzey.
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Someone asked me some time ago,
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when we do these Bible programs,
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do we get in a room and kind
of go over our stuff together.
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And the answer is...
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No!
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No, we don't do that.
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Shelley just got the
subject several hours ago.
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So we know that we don't get...
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Actually, 30 minutes ago.
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Isn't that recent?
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John Dinzey is
our General Manager
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at 3ABN Latino Channel.
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Johnny, good to
have you here, man.
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It's a pleasure to be here
once again to study God's Word.
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Praise the Lord.
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We don't.
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And the one of the
reasons we don't do that...
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We don't need to do that
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is because truth, I
think you all agree,
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is an objective thing.
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It is not
subjective. Truth is objective.
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Amen.
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And when you're
all studying truth,
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as you come closer to
that fixed mark that is truth,
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you also come
closer one to the other.
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You know, as you're
coming closer to the cross,
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you're drawing
closer to each other.
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As you're
drawing closer to truth,
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you're always
drawing closer to each other.
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And so we have
never had to do that
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because the Holy Spirit
works through us and with us,
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and as we draw
closer to the truth,
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there is a natural sort of
symbiosis that takes place,
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and everybody's
on the same page.
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So in the 14 years that
I've been here and changed.
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And, Shelley, we
came about the same time.
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Although you had
done some work before,
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we've never had
to get into a room
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and make sure we
don't step on each other,
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say the wrong thing because
we're all studying truth,
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and truth has a way of
galvanizing your thoughts
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and bringing
everything together.
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So I'm excited as
we talk about legalism.
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And I need to say
in setting this up,
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you know, there
are certain sins,
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certain problems
that tend to afflict
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the believer more
than other things.
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Pride, we find out,
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it can be
resonant in the church.
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Legalism is something
that affects the believer.
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You almost have to be a
believer to be a legalist.
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You know, if
you're not a believer,
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you can't be a legalist
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because it's not
important to you.
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But this thing
that we call legalism,
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we're going to unpackage
that in just a little bit,
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is something that
afflicts the church,
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that affects
believers in the church,
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affects believers in the church.
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Of all denominations.
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Of all denominations.
Yeah, of all denominations.
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Perhaps some more than
other, but certainly it is.
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For those who
want to be reformers,
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who want to try to
live as close to the Lord
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as it possibly can,
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it is a danger
that they can step into
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that needs to be guarded
against very, very carefully.
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So that's what
we're going to talk about.
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And I want to pray on air.
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Shelley, if you
would take us to the song
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for just a few moments
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because this is a
very important subject.
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Absolutely.
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And we want to spend a little
time just talking to the Lord
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before we launch out and
sort of wade out into it.
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Heavenly Father, we come in
the name of Jesus thanking You,
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O Lord, that You loved us enough
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to send Him to die for us
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while we were yet sinners,
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thanking You for the gift of
salvation through Jesus Christ,
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for Your Holy
Spirit and Your Word,
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and we ask just now, Father,
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that for each one of us here,
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O Father, fill us with
Your afresh, with Your Spirit,
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and, Lord, for all
who are hearing our voice,
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we ask in Jesus' name that
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You would give each
one of us ears to hear
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what the Holy
Spirit would have to say,
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and we pray, Father,
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that this program
will help guard our hearts
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against legalism, Lord.
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And so we give You all
the praise, all the glory.
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And we thank You, Father,
for You know You are with us.
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And we just want
to also thank You
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for bringing
Ryan in with us today.
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And, Lord, may You be glorified,
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help us to lift Christ high
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that He may draw
all unto Himself.
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In Jesus' holy name we
pray, thanking You, Father,
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for the answer to
the prayer of faith.
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Amen. Amen.
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Amen.
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We do want to mention...
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You know, you hate
to keep calling him
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new, new, new, new,
new, he is new still.
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There's still
just some gloss on him,
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but Ryan Day is an evangelist,
a preacher, a teacher,
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a world-class singer, and we're
finding out a pretty nice guy
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and a Christian.
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So soon and very soon, we
will drop the moniker new,
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he'll just be Ryan
Day or Pastor Ryan Day.
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For now, new but not
much longer will he be.
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When we define
legalism, lords and lady,
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I went to the dictionary
and found it actually woefully
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lacking in the
depth of definition.
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The dictionary said
it's an excessive adherence
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to a law or a formula.
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It is dependence on moral law
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rather than personal
religious faith, which is nice,
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but it lacks the depth
of what legalism really is,
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and I want to
sort of wade into that
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and allow you each
to give a definition
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from your heart as to what it is
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because that will sort
of begin to set the platform
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for what we're talking about.
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Because legalism, more than
a philosophy, is a practice.
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Yes.
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And when you're
dealing with a term like that,
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you've got to go a
little deeper than the what,
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and you've got
to go into the why
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because the what exists
because of the why and...
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So we want to
sort of wade into that.
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Ryan, I think
I'll start with you.
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If you're defining legalism,
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your mind, from your
study, what do you have?
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Well, I mean,
you know, legalism,
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traveling on the road, meeting
lots of different people,
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you meet all kinds of
different personalities,
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people with different ideas,
perspectives of the gospel.
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And so I see that
to a certain extent.
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I see legalism as being
someone battling or struggling
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with the concept of a gospel,
what the gospel means to them.
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And so in this case, I think a
person who is legalistic-minded
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is someone who is, you
know, for lack of a better term,
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kind of unsettled or unsatisfied
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with their faith, with the
idea that Christ has literally
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become the full
substitute for them,
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that there is a sense of
I always have to do more,
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you know, there's
not enough that I can do,
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I'm not good enough,
I'm not perfect enough.
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And so there's
always that that idea that
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I must keep working,
working, working to please God
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or to bring
myself in favor with God,
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that He can give me
grace but not until then.
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And there's
different variations.
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You're going to run
into a lot of people.
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I have personally who, you know,
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don't necessarily
consider themselves a legalist,
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but they are.
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But some people are very open.
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They might consider
themselves a legalist,
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but there are so many different
perspectives or ideologies out
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there concerning
the legalistic mindset.
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So that would
be kind of a broad,
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a very broad perspective of
what legalism or what a person
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with a
legalistic mindset might be.
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Well said. Shelley?
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I guess if I were to
define it, I would say
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it's a doctrinal position
of rules and regulations
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to achieve salvation
and spiritual growth.
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This is people who
think, you know, one thing
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we know is both the
Old and the New Testament
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are very clear that
salvation belongs to the Lord.
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And I think that
it is a pride issue.
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Let me put it this way.
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To me, the definition of
humility is to be absolutely,
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totally dependent upon the Lord.
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That's
humility. That was Christ.
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But I think for
some people, it's like,
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"I've got to do
something to, you know,
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contribute to my salvation,
to my spiritual growth."
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And I think that
this is something that
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we can be legalistic about
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following these systems
of rules and regulations,
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and often they are man-made,
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sometimes it's going
back to the Old Covenant.
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There are people who think that
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we still have to
follow the Law of Moses
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and the Book of Deuteronomy
that was nailed to the cross.
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But, you know, we
can be legalistic.
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Let me put it this way.
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Let's say that there is
a non-essential doctrine.
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We've got to be
careful about heresy.
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But if there is a
non-essential doctrine
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that we disagree with someone,
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you can actually
get legalistic about it.
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It's kind of like, you know,
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it's got to be
according to my interpretation,
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and we're ready to
run you out of the church
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if you're not
agreeing with everything.
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That's legalistic is too.
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It is. Well said.
Well said. Johnny?
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You know, there are
extremes even in legalism,
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if you want to call it that,
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because you have
the people on one side
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that they don't
want to do anything.
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They want to do
whatever they want.
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So you have this
extreme over here,
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then there are the
legalistic people that are...
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You have legalism and
then legalistic people
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that they have
lost sight of Christ,
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and they work not only to...
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Like Paul, like Paul was
without blame, without thought,
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he was a legalist.
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Paul was the perfect legalistic,
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if you want to call it
that, concerning the law,
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blameless he would say.
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So a legalist has
lost sight of Christ.
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Amen. That's a
good way to say it.
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The law or the
rules and regulations
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have become his or her
God, this object is that.
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Whereas the
Christian, you know, Paul says,
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"Be imitators of
me as I am of Christ."
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They're not
seeking to imitate Christ,
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but they're seeking to
have purity in such a way
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that they lose sight
of the beauty of holiness.
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Amen.
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And, you know,
all false religions
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are work-based religions.
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Very true.
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So what you find that
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not only are
people who are legalistic,
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and you always
will find this that
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they're very prideful that...
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and I'll just give you an
example of a woman that I met,
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"I'm a vegan.
I'm this, I'm that.
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I'm ready to be translated."
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And she had no
real love in her heart,
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that's being very legalistic.
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But what you'll find is that
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most legalistic
people are very judgmental.
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You know, they're
very judgmental of others.
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And they kind of
take it upon themselves
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to be judge and jury and to...
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Jesus called us
to be fishers of men,
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but He didn't call us to
be the cleaners of the fish.
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And so I think that
we've got to be careful
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that we always show
love and mercy to people
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who may not have made
it as far along as we have.
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Amen. Well said.
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You know, the thing
about most legalists
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is legalists don't have fun.
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You know, it's hard to have fun
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when you're trying to
work your way into heaven,
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when you're trying to do
something to please a Lord
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who already says, "I love you."
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You know.
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You can't earn that
love, that love exists.
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You simply accept
and walk into that.
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And if you're trying to earn it,
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you're kind of
a miserable person
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'cause you can never
be quite good enough.
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And I see legalism as an attempt
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to earn righteousness through,
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and I use this
term, stuff that you do.
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And you can't do
enough stuff, you know,
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to earn that love
which is already there.
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Berkouwer, Dutch
reformed theologian,
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wrote a book
called Sin, 750 pages,
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I've read it
once, once is enough.
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But in that, he talked
about, and you know this,
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the four New
Testament definitions of sin,
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hamartia, which
is missing the mark,
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anomia, which is
lawlessness or anarchy,
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malosmus, which is
wandering in the dark,
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blind leading the blind,
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and the last one is paraptoma,
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which means intent got parry,
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you've got walking alongside.
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So the one that I see
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that is closest to
legalism is paraptoma.
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It's a parallel path,
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but it's not
going in the same place.
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It looks like it's
right, but it's a parallel path.
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Walking in the in the footsteps
of Jesus is the correct path.
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Paraptoma is walking
alongside on a parallel path
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but it's not the right path.
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So you're trying to get
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a righteous
standing with the Lord
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because you know you have to.
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You need to be righteous.
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But rather than
surrendering to a righteousness
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that is provided for you,
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you're trying by your
own efforts to please Him
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and to be
righteous, and, of course,
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that which is
not of faith is sin.
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And without faith it is
impossible to please Him.
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So it's got to start
with a pre-existing condition.
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I like to say a
love relationship
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with the Lord and out
of that love relationship
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there comes obedience
as a natural consequence.
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So if you're trying
to obey without that,
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you are defeated
before you begin.
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You really can't go too far.
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Having said that,
let's ask this question,
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why then is legalism wrong?
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What makes it wrong?
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Vis-A-vis, and
Ryan and I were talking
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about this just
a little bit ago,
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what Christ has
done on the cross?
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You got the substitutionary
death of Christ on the cross,
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then you got me trying
to make myself good enough,
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what's wrong with that?
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Yeah.
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I found a quote.
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This comes from the
Bible Echo, July 2nd 1894.
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When I found this quote,
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I think it, in a
general sense summed up
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the wrongfulness of legalism.
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I'm just going to read
it here, it's not very long.
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It says, "All legalism,
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all the sorrow and woe by
which you may encompass yourself
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will not give you
one moment of relief.
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You cannot rightly estimate sin.
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You must accept God's estimate.
And it is heavy indeed.
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If you bore the
guilt of your sin,
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it would crush you."
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"But the sinless one
has taken your place,
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and though undeserving,
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he has become your guilt.
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By accepting the provision
God has made," that's the key,
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"by accepting the
provision that God has made,
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you may stand free
before Him in the merit
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and virtue of your substitute."
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And we know that
substitute to be Christ.
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And so I think, Shelley alluded
to it very clearly, legalism,
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I think the ultimate
wrongfulness about it
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is that there's a
sense of strong pride there.
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I can't accept Christ
as my ultimate substitute.
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Even though legalist
will verbally say that,
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obviously no one's
going to march around and say,
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"You know, I can't really accept
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fully the sacrifice of Jesus."
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But literally, when
you get down to the,
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you know, to the
brass tacks of this issue,
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you're dealing with someone
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who ultimately is so
prideful that it's like,
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you know, "Christ, I
know He did this for me
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but I've got to add to that."
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Yes.
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"I've got to do
more to make sure
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that that He's
fully satisfied with me
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as His child and as a servant."
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And so it really is a
legalistic issue of pride
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on the part of the individual.
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Yes.
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Shelley, you touched on that,
what you're saying basically,
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Jesus ain't enough.
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That sacrifice was not enough,
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I got to add to that.
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And you've
touched on that before,
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Shelley, this idea of pride.
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I got to have a
part in my salvation,
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I got to put some bean in a pot.
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It's not enough to
just serve me the soup,
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I want to add something to that.
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You know, it's interesting
because in Galatians 5,
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Paul's talking to the Galatians
who were being agitated
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and stirred up by the Judaizers
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and trying to get
them to go back to...
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Or saying, "You got to
follow the Law of Moses,
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you've got to be circumcised,
you've got to do this,
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you've got to do that."
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And Paul comes
out and tells them,
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"Hey, you know, if
you're circumcised,
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then Christ is of no prophety."
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But he goes on in verse 4.
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He says that, you know,
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"If you're going
to be circumcised,
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you've got to keep
the whole Law of Moses."
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And in verse 4, he says,
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"You have become
estranged from grace,
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you who attempt
to be justified,"
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Yes.
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"By law, you have fallen,
you're estranged from Christ,
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you have fallen from grace."
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And see, this is
something that the pride of man
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and, you know,
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it's interesting
what you were saying
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was legalism 'cause I grew up
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caught up on this
little windmill type thing
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or what do you call
it with a little hamster
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runs on the running wheel?
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Yeah.
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Anyway, that I was
taught I had to be perfect
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to be loved by God.
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Now I did grow up a
Seventh-day Adventist,
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but I was taught
I had to be perfect
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to be loved by God.
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And although, I mean I
didn't know what grace was,
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but even when I
learned about grace,
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I had a case of the do mores,
00:19:54.59\00:19:56.93
I call it the
performance type mentality where
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"Oh, Lord, if I'd
only read my Bible more.
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Oh, I need to, you
know, make sure..."
00:20:03.10\00:20:05.63
I had a man say recently,
00:20:05.67\00:20:07.54
he was brought up to believe
if you didn't spend four hours
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in church on Sabbath
00:20:10.31\00:20:11.77
that you hadn't
celebrated Sabbath.
00:20:11.81\00:20:14.38
That's a man, you know,
00:20:14.41\00:20:15.74
you're not going to find a
thus saith the Lord on that.
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Right.
00:20:17.28\00:20:18.61
So but it was like,
if only I read more,
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if only I
prayed more, if only...
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and when I wasn't,
00:20:25.59\00:20:26.96
then I always
start to feel guilty.
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To this day, I
have to stop and say,
00:20:29.02\00:20:31.49
"Lord, thank
You for who You are,
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thank You for grace."
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Because you can get...
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And I didn't think
of myself as legalistic
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'cause I felt like I was it
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but I did still feel like
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I needed to do
something to earn His favor.
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Yeah.
00:20:46.21\00:20:47.58
You know, and it's
of the worldly mind
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but it's logical
and it's sequitur.
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The idea that if I do
a little Bible reading,
00:20:52.38\00:20:54.85
I feel pretty good, I'm
okay, more ought to be better,
00:20:54.88\00:20:57.89
you know. Yeah, yeah.
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If I give up this, that
ought to make me better.
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If I pray a little more,
that ought to make me better.
00:21:01.92\00:21:05.53
There is something in the back
of our minds that says to us,
00:21:05.56\00:21:08.73
"If you do this
just do a little more
00:21:08.76\00:21:10.27
and God will love you more.
00:21:10.30\00:21:12.13
There'll be a
closer relationship,
00:21:12.17\00:21:13.64
you can maybe get more blessings
00:21:13.67\00:21:15.00
or get more stuff from the Lord,
00:21:15.04\00:21:16.47
just do a little more."
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And the default
setting is that's anti-God.
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Amen.
00:21:22.21\00:21:23.55
That's saying to God,
"You're not sufficient for me.
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I've got to do
something to add."
00:21:26.95\00:21:28.28
And, of course,
the moment you do that,
00:21:28.32\00:21:29.65
you're actually
walking away from the Lord
00:21:29.68\00:21:31.45
and not walking closer to Him.
00:21:31.49\00:21:32.82
And I think what
legalism, the bottom line,
00:21:32.85\00:21:36.46
it opposes salvation by grace.
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Yes.
00:21:39.13\00:21:40.50
It is opposing the
grace of our Lord and Savior,
00:21:40.53\00:21:44.17
Jesus Christ, and we
know Ephesians 2: 8-10 says,
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"We were saved by grace,
00:21:47.57\00:21:48.90
not by works so that no
man could have any boast."
00:21:48.94\00:21:54.61
But we were
saved, the Bible says,
00:21:54.64\00:21:57.35
"For the good works He prepared
in advance for us to do."
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But it's all to His glory.
00:22:00.55\00:22:02.38
And I think we have a hard time
00:22:02.42\00:22:04.39
giving it all to
the glory of God.
00:22:04.42\00:22:05.75
And I agree with you,
and it's very interesting
00:22:05.79\00:22:07.66
that Ephesians 2
juxtaposes 10, says,
00:22:07.69\00:22:11.16
"Created for good works
00:22:11.19\00:22:12.53
right behind by
grace", as you say.
00:22:12.56\00:22:14.10
So there is a fusion,
there is a connection,
00:22:14.13\00:22:16.87
but the connection comes
00:22:16.90\00:22:18.87
when the pre-existing condition
00:22:18.90\00:22:20.54
of relationship
with Jesus is in place.
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Amen.
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Then the good works flow
out of and not instead of.
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Right. Johnny?
00:22:25.87\00:22:27.21
You know, most people...
00:22:27.28\00:22:31.38
have either this "I'm
not good enough to be saved,
00:22:34.22\00:22:38.59
even though Christ
died for me on the cross,
00:22:38.62\00:22:40.76
He took my place.
00:22:40.79\00:22:42.16
I'm not good
enough to be saved."
00:22:42.19\00:22:45.36
It's a works
oriented in their mind
00:22:45.39\00:22:48.06
because you're
saying, "I have to do more,
00:22:48.10\00:22:50.90
I have to do more,
00:22:50.97\00:22:52.30
I'm not good
enough to be saved."
00:22:52.33\00:22:53.67
And, of course, in all this,
00:22:53.70\00:22:55.04
of legalism and these extremes
00:22:55.07\00:22:57.11
that people go to that that
was working in people's minds.
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Amen.
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That was working
in people's minds.
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Even though some people
have asked for forgiveness,
00:23:01.84\00:23:04.25
and wept before the Lord,
00:23:04.28\00:23:07.75
and they don't
commit the same sin again,
00:23:07.78\00:23:09.75
but they're asking the Lord,
00:23:09.78\00:23:11.12
"Lord, forgive me for that sin."
00:23:11.15\00:23:12.49
Because it comes
back to their mind
00:23:12.52\00:23:13.89
because it's there,
00:23:13.96\00:23:15.29
the mind keeps a record of it.
00:23:15.32\00:23:16.93
And then devil, of course,
00:23:16.96\00:23:18.29
tries to bring it
back to your mind.
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I like to read the Scripture
00:23:20.83\00:23:22.16
because I think
it helps illustrate
00:23:22.20\00:23:24.07
a little bit about
legalistic mindset.
00:23:24.10\00:23:27.80
And this is Luke 18,
00:23:27.84\00:23:29.44
Jesus says in starting verse 10,
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"Two men went up
into the temple to pray,
00:23:31.11\00:23:32.97
the one a Pharisee
and the other Republican.
00:23:33.01\00:23:35.21
The Pharisee stood and
prayed thus with himself,
00:23:35.24\00:23:38.21
'God, I thank Thee that
I am not as other men are,
00:23:38.25\00:23:42.02
extortioners,
unjust, adulterers,
00:23:42.05\00:23:44.75
or even as this publican.
00:23:44.79\00:23:46.52
I fast twice in the week,
00:23:46.55\00:23:47.96
I give tithes of
all that I possess.'
00:23:47.99\00:23:50.53
And the publican standing
afar off would not even lift up
00:23:50.56\00:23:53.70
so much as his eyes unto
heaven but smote upon his breast
00:23:53.73\00:23:56.53
saying God be
merciful to me, a sinner.'
00:23:56.56\00:24:01.60
And Jesus, as I tell you,
00:24:01.64\00:24:02.97
this man went down
to his house justified
00:24:03.00\00:24:05.01
rather than the
other for everyone
00:24:05.04\00:24:06.81
that exalts
himself shall be abased
00:24:06.88\00:24:09.64
and he that humbleth
himself shall be exalted."
00:24:09.68\00:24:13.21
So this is the problem
with the legalistic mind.
00:24:13.25\00:24:16.89
He is not going to be justified,
00:24:16.92\00:24:18.95
he's trying and
trying and trying,
00:24:18.99\00:24:21.32
but he's never
going to feel good enough.
00:24:21.36\00:24:24.23
You see, there's that
never going to feel good enough
00:24:24.26\00:24:26.90
and always got
to keep trying more.
00:24:26.93\00:24:29.16
And then, of course,
we need to find Jesus.
00:24:29.20\00:24:32.97
When you keep your eyes on
Jesus and if I be lifted up,
00:24:33.00\00:24:35.47
will draw all men unto me. Amen.
00:24:35.50\00:24:37.11
And Jesus has to be our focus.
00:24:37.14\00:24:38.97
The grace, you know,
00:24:39.01\00:24:40.71
when you understand
that Jesus came to save me,
00:24:40.78\00:24:45.78
I am a sinner,
He came to save me,
00:24:45.81\00:24:48.55
and there's really...
00:24:48.58\00:24:49.92
nothing I can add to
what Christ has done for me,
00:24:52.19\00:24:55.79
you know, I can't add
anything that will say okay,
00:24:55.82\00:24:59.13
Christ did all this but because
00:24:59.16\00:25:01.26
you fed a 100 people, or you,
00:25:01.30\00:25:06.63
you know, you went
to church every week,
00:25:06.67\00:25:09.00
or, you know, whatever works
you want to pile onto that,
00:25:09.04\00:25:13.17
he says, the focus is...
00:25:13.21\00:25:15.11
"By grace you are
saved through faith."
00:25:15.14\00:25:17.35
And that not of yourselves,
it is the gift of God.
00:25:17.38\00:25:19.68
But then there's the other part,
00:25:19.71\00:25:21.72
"We were created for..."
00:25:21.75\00:25:23.22
Good works. "Good works."
00:25:23.25\00:25:24.59
And, see, that
has to come in there
00:25:24.62\00:25:26.22
but there has to be a balance
00:25:26.25\00:25:27.89
because the focus
always has to be Christ.
00:25:27.92\00:25:29.46
Now someone is sitting home,
00:25:29.49\00:25:30.93
and either of you can
sort of grab onto this,
00:25:30.96\00:25:33.73
and they're saying,
00:25:33.80\00:25:35.13
"It sounds like they're
saying that there is no place
00:25:35.16\00:25:37.63
for commandment
keeping in the life
00:25:37.67\00:25:39.03
of the safest person."
00:25:39.07\00:25:40.44
And this is attention
that the Adventist Church...
00:25:40.47\00:25:43.20
I've just got to say, oh, wait,
00:25:43.24\00:25:44.57
'cause you asked about the
relationship with the cross,
00:25:44.61\00:25:46.98
before we go back
to the commandment...
00:25:47.01\00:25:49.08
Okay, you want
to weigh in on that?
00:25:49.11\00:25:50.45
Can I weigh in on that?
00:25:50.48\00:25:51.81
Because to me there is something
00:25:51.85\00:25:53.18
very special about this.
00:25:53.21\00:25:54.55
What people seem to
not understand often,
00:25:54.58\00:25:58.79
especially the
legalist is that salvation
00:25:58.82\00:26:02.09
has always been by
grace through faith.
00:26:02.12\00:26:04.33
There is an eternal gospel
00:26:04.36\00:26:06.70
and when God
announced this covenant
00:26:06.73\00:26:10.97
in Genesis 3:15 and then,
00:26:11.00\00:26:13.57
you know, He's saying,
00:26:13.64\00:26:14.97
"Hey, I'm going
to send one who...
00:26:15.00\00:26:16.57
I'm going to send
you the deliverer",
00:26:16.60\00:26:17.94
He will bruise the
head of the serpent,
00:26:17.97\00:26:21.04
you know, the
serpent will bruise his heel
00:26:21.08\00:26:22.48
but he'll bruise his head.
00:26:22.51\00:26:24.15
Then comes Abraham,
00:26:24.18\00:26:26.48
he gets into this
everlasting gospel,
00:26:26.51\00:26:29.82
the covenant that he
was justified by faith.
00:26:29.85\00:26:33.56
Now people almost go, "Whoops,
00:26:33.59\00:26:36.66
let's cut the record off
here and add the Law of Moses."
00:26:36.73\00:26:40.60
But when you read in Exodus,
00:26:40.63\00:26:43.26
the Bible says that
when the Hebrew children
00:26:43.30\00:26:45.60
were in captivity,
00:26:45.63\00:26:49.07
God heard their cry
00:26:49.10\00:26:51.07
and He remembered the
covenant with Abraham,
00:26:51.11\00:26:56.41
and Isaac, and Jacob.
00:26:56.44\00:26:58.68
So actually, it is a
continuation of the...
00:26:58.71\00:27:02.78
even the law was a continuation
of salvation by grace,
00:27:02.82\00:27:07.46
and it all was a shadow.
00:27:07.49\00:27:10.93
You know, when He
created this sanctuary for them,
00:27:10.96\00:27:14.00
this was a shadow of
things that were to come.
00:27:14.03\00:27:17.57
Christ was the body
that cast the shadow.
00:27:17.60\00:27:21.04
So when Christ
died on the cross,
00:27:21.07\00:27:23.51
what had transpired was the Jews
00:27:23.54\00:27:27.28
had taken the promises of God.
00:27:27.31\00:27:30.88
And they had made them
into this system of rules
00:27:30.95\00:27:34.32
and regulations to
which they added, what?
00:27:34.35\00:27:36.48
Nine hundred and thirty
more, is that what it is?
00:27:36.52\00:27:38.89
And Christ died to
set us free from that.
00:27:38.92\00:27:43.83
He was...
00:27:43.86\00:27:45.19
So to me, legalism,
when we find people that,
00:27:45.23\00:27:48.83
you know, they got to wear
the blue fringe on their coats
00:27:48.86\00:27:52.73
or something,
00:27:52.77\00:27:54.14
you find people
that are going back
00:27:54.17\00:27:55.90
trying to earn their
way, it is like to me,
00:27:55.94\00:27:59.17
you are saying,
Christ didn't do...
00:27:59.21\00:28:03.11
I mean that
didn't point to Christ
00:28:03.14\00:28:05.15
and He didn't achieve that.
00:28:05.18\00:28:07.42
And Paul says
in Colossians 2:14,
00:28:07.45\00:28:09.82
when he's talking
about that old law,
00:28:09.85\00:28:12.95
that curse that was,
00:28:12.99\00:28:14.32
you know, the law brought a
curse and it was against us,
00:28:14.36\00:28:17.66
it got nailed
to the cross, well,
00:28:17.69\00:28:19.06
let me read what
he goes on to say.
00:28:19.09\00:28:22.06
He says in...
00:28:22.10\00:28:24.43
He says after that, of course,
00:28:24.47\00:28:28.17
"Don't let any
man judge you in food,
00:28:28.20\00:28:29.67
or drink, or
regarding a festival,
00:28:29.70\00:28:31.44
or a new moon, or Sabbath."
00:28:31.47\00:28:33.01
He's referring back now
00:28:33.04\00:28:34.78
to the special annual
Sabbath's, the celebrations.
00:28:34.81\00:28:39.18
And then he says, "They
were a shadow of things to come,
00:28:39.21\00:28:41.65
Christ is the substance."
00:28:41.68\00:28:44.02
But then listen, he says,
00:28:44.09\00:28:45.42
"Let no one cheat
you out of your reward,
00:28:45.45\00:28:47.89
taking delight
in false humility,
00:28:47.92\00:28:50.73
worship of angels,
00:28:50.76\00:28:52.46
intruding into those things
which he has not seen vainly
00:28:52.49\00:28:55.83
puffed up by his fleshly mind."
00:28:55.86\00:28:58.30
He's talking
about the legalist here.
00:28:58.33\00:29:00.44
"Not holding fast to the head
00:29:00.47\00:29:02.07
from whom all of
the body nourished
00:29:02.10\00:29:03.81
and knit together
by joints and ligaments
00:29:03.84\00:29:06.07
grows with the
increase that is from God.
00:29:06.11\00:29:09.28
Therefore, if
you died with Christ
00:29:09.31\00:29:12.08
from the basic
principles of the world,
00:29:12.11\00:29:14.32
why is though
living in the world
00:29:14.35\00:29:17.59
do you subject yourself
to regulations, do not touch,
00:29:17.62\00:29:21.42
do not taste, do not handle,
00:29:21.46\00:29:23.56
which are all concerned things
00:29:23.63\00:29:27.43
which perish with the using
according to the commandments
00:29:27.50\00:29:31.13
and doctrines of men. "
00:29:31.17\00:29:33.57
Of men.
00:29:33.64\00:29:34.97
And he said, "These
things indeed have an appearance
00:29:35.00\00:29:38.61
of wisdom in
self-imposed religion,"
00:29:38.64\00:29:42.94
so here we go, that's
legalist, an appearance,
00:29:42.98\00:29:46.38
it's the cleaning
out up the outside
00:29:46.41\00:29:49.62
but there's no inward change.
00:29:49.65\00:29:51.45
Yes.
00:29:51.49\00:29:52.82
And Christ called them
whitewashed tombs, and he said,
00:29:52.85\00:29:56.59
"These things have
an appearance of wisdom
00:29:56.62\00:29:58.79
in self-imposed
religion, false humility,
00:29:58.83\00:30:01.46
and neglect of the body
00:30:01.50\00:30:04.43
but there have no value
00:30:04.47\00:30:05.80
against the
indulgence of the flesh."
00:30:05.83\00:30:08.20
So all of these
rules and regulations
00:30:08.24\00:30:10.71
that people come up with,
00:30:10.74\00:30:13.07
if you can't find a
thus saith the Lord,
00:30:13.11\00:30:17.08
all you're doing is...
00:30:17.15\00:30:19.88
we do this, we do
that, and it's not...
00:30:19.91\00:30:23.42
we are taking away from
what Christ accomplished
00:30:23.49\00:30:26.22
on the cross for us
because it all pointed to Him.
00:30:26.25\00:30:29.79
Yes, well said, well said.
00:30:29.82\00:30:31.56
That's true. The only thing...
00:30:31.59\00:30:33.50
Go ahead. I'm sorry.
00:30:33.53\00:30:34.86
I was looking a little
bit at this earlier today.
00:30:34.90\00:30:36.77
And I had to smile
and at the same time
00:30:36.80\00:30:39.37
is it was sad because
the devil is so sneaky
00:30:39.40\00:30:45.34
that he gets you
going in one direction
00:30:45.37\00:30:50.18
and you lose sight of Christ,
00:30:50.25\00:30:51.98
and it was giving some examples
00:30:52.01\00:30:55.35
of some of those little
things that were added on,
00:30:55.38\00:30:58.22
for example about
the Sabbath itself.
00:30:58.25\00:31:00.59
And one was that
00:31:00.66\00:31:03.73
some of the Jews
refused to eat an egg
00:31:03.76\00:31:05.96
because maybe somebody saw
00:31:05.99\00:31:08.33
when the egg was
being laid and "Oh,
00:31:08.36\00:31:11.27
that egg was
laid on the Sabbath,
00:31:11.30\00:31:13.13
the chicken
broke the commandment,
00:31:13.17\00:31:14.60
therefore you
cannot eat that egg."
00:31:14.64\00:31:16.71
And I was like, "What?"
00:31:16.74\00:31:18.11
And then the other one,
00:31:18.14\00:31:19.47
"If you were standing
up and you took some food,
00:31:19.51\00:31:23.55
if you took two steps
and you didn't swallow it
00:31:23.58\00:31:27.02
you were carrying something,
00:31:27.05\00:31:28.52
therefore you were
working on the Sabbath."
00:31:28.55\00:31:30.39
You see? So there were
extremes to these things
00:31:30.42\00:31:33.66
that took you away from the Lord
00:31:33.69\00:31:35.92
and focused your mind
on the works, the works.
00:31:35.96\00:31:40.10
"And so by the works of
the law shall no man be,"
00:31:40.13\00:31:45.27
Yes.
00:31:45.30\00:31:46.63
"Justified."
00:31:46.67\00:31:48.00
You see.
00:31:48.04\00:31:49.37
And so but again,
00:31:49.40\00:31:50.81
we have to find what
does God want us to understand
00:31:50.84\00:31:55.54
because when you read
Romans chapter 7, I think,
00:31:55.58\00:31:59.85
it's verse 12 or 2, I
don't remember, He says,
00:31:59.88\00:32:02.28
"Therefore the
commandment is holy..."
00:32:02.32\00:32:05.62
"Therefore the law is holy,
00:32:05.65\00:32:06.99
the commandment
holy and just and good."
00:32:07.06\00:32:09.36
So if the commandment
is holy, just and good,
00:32:09.39\00:32:12.83
what is the balance in here?
00:32:12.86\00:32:14.53
Amen.
00:32:14.56\00:32:15.90
Where does the law fit
into grace and the law?
00:32:15.93\00:32:20.34
Where does it fit in
God's perfect Christian life?
00:32:20.37\00:32:25.87
Where does the law fit?
That's what we got to address.
00:32:25.91\00:32:28.21
Yes, and may I say this?
00:32:28.24\00:32:29.68
Yes, say it.
Permission has been granted.
00:32:29.71\00:32:31.31
You know, because I grew up
00:32:31.35\00:32:34.38
being taught the commandments
were nailed to the cross,
00:32:34.42\00:32:36.89
and then as I
studied that sanctuary,
00:32:36.92\00:32:38.92
and you're looking,
00:32:38.95\00:32:40.29
and this was
theology in physical form.
00:32:40.36\00:32:43.19
So you find out the commandments
00:32:43.22\00:32:47.80
that God wrote
with His own finger
00:32:47.83\00:32:49.30
and whose finger was that?
00:32:49.33\00:32:50.67
The finger that
got nailed to the cross
00:32:50.70\00:32:52.17
because the Bible says,
00:32:52.20\00:32:53.64
"Nothing was created,
except by Him", right?
00:32:53.67\00:32:57.04
So the
commandment, the finger that...
00:32:57.11\00:33:00.01
the commandments
that were written
00:33:00.08\00:33:01.41
by the finger of Christ,
00:33:01.44\00:33:03.01
where were they put?
00:33:03.04\00:33:04.51
Under the mercy seat, inside.
00:33:04.55\00:33:05.95
Inside the ark and that
is under the mercy seat,
00:33:05.98\00:33:09.55
I mean, mercy
always triumphs law, right?
00:33:09.58\00:33:13.02
Yeah. But that...
00:33:13.05\00:33:14.89
what does the ark represent?
00:33:14.92\00:33:17.56
The judgment of the...
00:33:17.63\00:33:18.96
The throne of God.
The throne of God, right.
00:33:18.99\00:33:20.33
So that is the
foundation of His government
00:33:20.36\00:33:22.20
with the Ten Commandments.
00:33:22.23\00:33:23.70
Now the Law of Moses,
00:33:23.77\00:33:25.77
which is the
book of Deuteronomy,
00:33:25.80\00:33:27.54
is basically what they
called The Book of the Law,
00:33:27.57\00:33:30.81
it was rolled up
and put in a pocket.
00:33:30.84\00:33:34.01
Yes, the Ten Commandments
00:33:34.08\00:33:35.41
were in it as the
heart of the covenant
00:33:35.44\00:33:37.75
but the Ten Commandments
00:33:37.78\00:33:39.11
are the heart of
the everlasting...
00:33:39.15\00:33:40.75
I mean, the moral law is part
of the everlasting covenant,
00:33:40.82\00:33:46.22
the everlasting gospel
'cause you get to Hebrews
00:33:46.25\00:33:49.49
and what does He
say in Hebrews 8:10?
00:33:49.52\00:33:52.89
That God is going to
write His law on our hearts
00:33:52.93\00:33:57.40
and put Him in our minds
00:33:57.47\00:33:58.93
and then He's going
to work in us to will and
00:33:58.97\00:34:01.64
to do His good pleasure.
00:34:01.67\00:34:03.00
And what is interesting is that
00:34:03.04\00:34:04.37
when you go to
Deuteronomy 29 and 31,
00:34:04.41\00:34:06.98
you'll find that
the part of the law
00:34:07.01\00:34:09.51
that was put on a
side was put there
00:34:09.54\00:34:12.81
for a witness against it.
00:34:12.85\00:34:14.22
Against the...
00:34:14.25\00:34:15.58
If you use that language,
and then you go to Colossians,
00:34:15.62\00:34:17.49
what's there? One see the cross?
00:34:17.52\00:34:18.89
That part, well, that
was a witness against you.
00:34:18.92\00:34:21.66
So there was never any dictum
00:34:21.69\00:34:23.36
made about the Ten Commandments.
00:34:23.43\00:34:25.23
There'll always be a transcript
of the character of God
00:34:25.26\00:34:28.76
and as such as
eternal as God is Himself.
00:34:28.80\00:34:31.30
You know, this idea
of trying to do right,
00:34:31.33\00:34:35.07
you can with a lot of effort
for short periods of time...
00:34:35.10\00:34:41.44
accomplish certain
things. Very short.
00:34:41.48\00:34:42.98
You know, say, you are a
smoker, you can with will,
00:34:43.01\00:34:47.98
some days you get up
and you got the will.
00:34:48.02\00:34:49.78
"You know, today,
I will not smoke."
00:34:49.82\00:34:51.25
And you don't, you don't.
00:34:51.29\00:34:52.95
So you've done a nice deed.
00:34:52.99\00:34:55.99
But you haven't gotten
the victory over smoking
00:34:56.02\00:34:59.89
because you haven't
asked for forgiveness,
00:34:59.93\00:35:02.63
that sin can rise
up and condemn you.
00:35:02.66\00:35:05.30
So only those
things that are done
00:35:05.33\00:35:07.07
through the
power of Jesus Christ
00:35:07.14\00:35:09.10
are really washed away,
which is why you have this...
00:35:09.14\00:35:13.38
What seems like
a confusing thing
00:35:13.41\00:35:15.31
in the 1, 2, and 3
John, three times, he says,
00:35:15.34\00:35:17.75
"Those who are in
Christ, do not sin."
00:35:17.78\00:35:20.75
Then in 1 John 2:1,
you got "And if you do sin,
00:35:20.82\00:35:24.22
you got an
advocate with the Father."
00:35:24.29\00:35:25.62
"So what is up with that?
00:35:25.65\00:35:26.99
You know, where is
this truth? Do I not sin?
00:35:27.02\00:35:30.23
Or do I have an
advocate with the Father?"
00:35:30.26\00:35:31.76
Of course,
Shelley, as you well know,
00:35:31.79\00:35:33.53
that's in the...
00:35:33.60\00:35:35.73
Imperfect tense, which means
you do not continue to sin.
00:35:35.76\00:35:38.47
As a pattern of life. Precisely.
00:35:38.50\00:35:40.34
But if somebody trips you
up or if you stumble yourself,
00:35:40.37\00:35:44.34
God has taken care of that.
00:35:44.37\00:35:46.14
He's giving you an
advocate with the Father,
00:35:46.17\00:35:47.74
you're in Christ the righteous
to take care of those things.
00:35:47.78\00:35:52.28
That is something done
forensicly outside of you.
00:35:52.31\00:35:55.18
That's a provision
that God has made for you
00:35:55.22\00:35:59.45
so that you can be
justified and remain justified
00:35:59.49\00:36:03.53
while the sanctification
process is taking place
00:36:03.56\00:36:06.46
in your life.
00:36:06.49\00:36:07.83
He's looking at you as better
00:36:07.86\00:36:09.53
while He is
actually making you better.
00:36:09.56\00:36:11.97
So those are provisions
that He has given for you,
00:36:12.00\00:36:14.34
so you need not
try to be sinless.
00:36:14.37\00:36:19.04
What you need to try to do
00:36:19.07\00:36:20.81
is stay on
Jesus' side, you know.
00:36:20.88\00:36:23.35
Apply Christ, I say,
at the point of attack.
00:36:23.38\00:36:26.25
You know, if
he's attacking heart,
00:36:26.28\00:36:27.62
put Christ here.
00:36:27.65\00:36:28.98
If he's messing with
your head, put Christ here.
00:36:29.02\00:36:30.59
If he's going through your ears,
00:36:30.62\00:36:31.95
put Christ here.
00:36:31.99\00:36:33.32
But put Christ at
the point of attack.
00:36:33.36\00:36:34.69
Amen.
00:36:34.72\00:36:36.06
So when temptation
comes, I don't say,
00:36:36.09\00:36:37.43
"How am I not going
to not be mad at Ryan?"
00:36:37.46\00:36:39.06
I say, "How am I
going to serve Jesus?"
00:36:39.09\00:36:40.43
Amen.
00:36:40.50\00:36:41.83
And then Jesus takes
care of that mad thing.
00:36:41.86\00:36:43.20
Amen. That's right.
00:36:43.23\00:36:44.57
But, Ryan, you
didn't grow up being taught
00:36:44.60\00:36:45.93
that you to obey
the Ten Commandments,
00:36:45.97\00:36:48.47
what convinced you
that it was necessary
00:36:48.50\00:36:51.81
to keep the commandments?
00:36:51.84\00:36:53.17
Well, you know, it's interesting
00:36:53.21\00:36:54.54
because I remember in,
00:36:54.58\00:36:57.15
what we call, Sabbath school
00:36:57.18\00:36:58.98
for Sunday
keepers at Sunday school.
00:36:59.01\00:37:01.15
So I remember, you know,
00:37:01.18\00:37:02.65
attending Sunday
school as a child, you know,
00:37:02.68\00:37:05.12
and every single year
was like a cyclical thing,
00:37:05.15\00:37:08.02
and I think probably
still in most churches today,
00:37:08.06\00:37:11.23
people do this,
and it's quite ironic
00:37:11.26\00:37:13.16
that in Sunday
school we teach the children
00:37:13.19\00:37:15.33
the Ten Commandments.
00:37:15.36\00:37:16.87
You know, there's this ongoing,
00:37:16.90\00:37:18.60
you know,
there's several lessons,
00:37:18.63\00:37:20.14
and you quote the commandments,
00:37:20.17\00:37:21.90
and, you know
have your memory verse
00:37:21.94\00:37:23.54
is on the commandments.
00:37:23.61\00:37:24.94
And so it's taught to
you to learn and memorize
00:37:24.97\00:37:27.88
the Ten Commandments as a child.
00:37:27.91\00:37:29.24
But what always
confused me as I got older,
00:37:29.28\00:37:31.38
as I started getting up into,
you know, the teenage classes
00:37:31.41\00:37:35.78
and then the
early adult classes,
00:37:35.82\00:37:37.49
then what was taught to me
and told for me to remember
00:37:37.52\00:37:40.86
was then it was quiet
reversed when I got older,
00:37:40.89\00:37:43.56
you know what it's...
00:37:43.63\00:37:44.96
Those are done away with,
we don't have to keep those.
00:37:44.99\00:37:46.33
Yes.
00:37:46.36\00:37:47.70
And so while there wasn't
maybe full sermons delivered
00:37:47.73\00:37:51.17
or any type of
entire messages that,
00:37:51.20\00:37:53.00
you know, where pastors,
00:37:53.03\00:37:54.47
you know, secluded or
isolated the Ten Commandments
00:37:54.50\00:37:56.91
and were taught
us not to keep them.
00:37:56.94\00:37:59.21
It was certainly not something
that was taught to keep.
00:37:59.24\00:38:01.84
Yes.
00:38:01.88\00:38:03.21
And so I think
the gaping question,
00:38:03.24\00:38:05.21
we've kind of all suddenly
brought the commandments
00:38:05.25\00:38:08.78
into this conversation,
00:38:08.82\00:38:10.19
and I think when you're dealing
00:38:10.22\00:38:11.55
with the concept of legalism,
00:38:11.59\00:38:12.92
that's usually where
the focus comes down to
00:38:12.95\00:38:16.22
is the Ten Commandments.
00:38:16.26\00:38:17.63
"Do I have to obey the law?
00:38:17.66\00:38:18.99
Do I have to keep
the law to be saved?
00:38:19.03\00:38:21.36
Is it necessary for
me to perfectly keep
00:38:21.40\00:38:25.37
and obey all the
Ten Commandments?"
00:38:25.40\00:38:27.44
And, you know,
00:38:27.47\00:38:29.80
I like to usually
tell people in Bible study
00:38:29.84\00:38:31.57
if we're discussing the
Ten Commandments is that,
00:38:31.61\00:38:33.71
you know, the Ten Commandments
or keeping of the law
00:38:33.78\00:38:36.21
is not the means
by which we are saved.
00:38:36.24\00:38:37.85
Amen.
00:38:37.88\00:38:39.21
We do not obtain,
for those of you at home,
00:38:39.25\00:38:40.62
obviously we
know this, we don't...
00:38:40.65\00:38:42.55
The Bible makes it very clear,
00:38:42.58\00:38:43.92
we do not gain
salvation or eternal life
00:38:43.99\00:38:46.76
by the perfect
adherence to or keeping
00:38:46.79\00:38:49.29
of the Ten Commandments.
00:38:49.32\00:38:50.66
Amen.
00:38:50.73\00:38:52.06
But I will say
that keeping of the law,
00:38:52.09\00:38:55.16
the keeping of
the Ten Commandments
00:38:55.20\00:38:56.53
is a natural response of someone
00:38:56.56\00:39:00.27
who is in a saving
relationship with Jesus Christ.
00:39:00.34\00:39:03.51
And so I made a note
here because someone,
00:39:03.54\00:39:06.78
you know, had this down
through the years travelling,
00:39:06.81\00:39:08.51
and going into
homes, and visiting people,
00:39:08.54\00:39:10.58
which is a major part
of evangelistic ministry,
00:39:10.65\00:39:13.15
you're going to
have those questions.
00:39:13.18\00:39:14.55
And so, you know, people try
to use personal logic to say,
00:39:14.58\00:39:17.29
"Well, if we're not saved
00:39:17.32\00:39:19.49
by the keeping
of the commandments?
00:39:19.52\00:39:21.29
Well, then that must mean
also that I cannot miss out
00:39:21.32\00:39:24.96
on the kingdom of God
if I break the commandments
00:39:24.99\00:39:28.46
or if I do not
keep the commandments."
00:39:28.50\00:39:30.97
And so it's
interesting to me that,
00:39:31.00\00:39:34.90
you know, I put a note here,
00:39:34.94\00:39:36.50
can disobedience to God's
law cost us our salvation?
00:39:36.54\00:39:41.21
I want to read this text here,
00:39:41.24\00:39:42.68
and I think we'll probably
all head in this direction,
00:39:42.71\00:39:45.51
but I think Matthew 7
00:39:45.55\00:39:47.65
is one of the
most interesting...
00:39:47.68\00:39:49.02
There's a passage,
and, of course, as you know,
00:39:49.05\00:39:51.39
Matthew 7 is the continuation
and ultimately the ending
00:39:51.42\00:39:55.82
of Jesus'
sermon on the mountain.
00:39:55.86\00:39:57.99
And Jesus says
this in Matthew 7:21,
00:39:58.03\00:40:01.60
"Not everyone who says to Me,
00:40:01.63\00:40:03.97
'Lord, Lord,' shall
enter the kingdom of heaven."
00:40:04.00\00:40:06.03
Amen. Okay?
00:40:06.07\00:40:08.17
"But he who does the
will of My Father in heaven."
00:40:08.20\00:40:12.24
And so the question,
00:40:12.27\00:40:13.61
I think, many people
need to be asking is,
00:40:13.68\00:40:15.01
"What is the will
of God biblically?"
00:40:15.04\00:40:17.25
Now I think
there's many scriptures
00:40:17.28\00:40:19.11
that clearly
communicate this, you know,
00:40:19.15\00:40:21.18
across the
spectrum of the Bible.
00:40:21.22\00:40:23.39
But one text
that comes to my mind
00:40:23.42\00:40:25.15
is when you're
reading Psalms 40:8,
00:40:25.19\00:40:27.46
this is what the
psalmist wrote, he says,
00:40:27.49\00:40:28.86
"I delight to do
Your will, O my God,
00:40:28.89\00:40:32.16
and Your law is
within my heart."
00:40:32.19\00:40:34.83
So there's kind of
a correlation there,
00:40:34.86\00:40:36.77
doing the will of
God, your law is within me.
00:40:36.80\00:40:39.63
So continue reading, He says,
00:40:39.67\00:40:41.00
"But those who do the
will of My Father in heaven,
00:40:41.04\00:40:43.61
many will say to Me on that day,
00:40:43.64\00:40:44.97
'Lord, Lord, have we
not prophesied in Your name?
00:40:45.01\00:40:47.98
Cast out demons in Your name?
00:40:48.01\00:40:49.38
Done many
wonders in Your name,'"
00:40:49.41\00:40:50.78
and I like to pause
here and mention that,
00:40:50.85\00:40:53.72
who does these things?
00:40:53.75\00:40:56.12
First of all, who
calls the Lord Lord?
00:40:56.15\00:40:57.72
Yeah. Believers.
00:40:57.75\00:40:59.35
Okay, so Jesus is
addressing professed believers,
00:40:59.39\00:41:03.22
people who would call
out on the name of God.
00:41:03.26\00:41:05.09
And then He says down here,
notice, it says, "And then..."
00:41:05.13\00:41:07.20
This is verse 23, "And
then I will declare to them
00:41:07.23\00:41:11.30
I never knew you, depart from Me
00:41:11.33\00:41:14.67
you who practice..."
00:41:14.70\00:41:16.04
And this is the New King
James Version, "Lawlessness."
00:41:16.07\00:41:18.34
King James Version will
say "iniquity", same thing.
00:41:18.37\00:41:21.28
"I never knew you," when I read
this passage as a young man,
00:41:21.31\00:41:24.31
this is what really got me,
and to answer your question,
00:41:24.35\00:41:26.65
as a young man, I
read this passage,
00:41:26.72\00:41:28.05
and I remember
thinking to myself,
00:41:28.08\00:41:29.95
"Lord, is it
possible that I could be going
00:41:29.98\00:41:33.22
through this entire
life telling everyone,
00:41:33.25\00:41:35.16
"Yeah, I'm saved,
I'm saved, I know Jesus,"
00:41:35.19\00:41:38.19
but get down to the end of time
00:41:38.23\00:41:40.40
only to hear those
most haunting words
00:41:40.43\00:41:42.76
come from my
Savior, "I don't know you.'"
00:41:42.80\00:41:44.60
Amen.
00:41:44.63\00:41:45.97
And I remember God
led me on a very short
00:41:46.00\00:41:47.97
but very profound
study of the Word.
00:41:48.00\00:41:52.07
We all know the text
where Jesus says in John 17: 3,
00:41:52.11\00:41:55.58
"And this is
eternal life that they may,"
00:41:55.61\00:41:58.51
there's the word, "know you."
00:41:58.55\00:42:00.52
Remember when Jesus
said, "Depart from Me,
00:42:00.55\00:42:02.28
I do not know you."
00:42:02.32\00:42:03.79
So here it is, John 17:3,
00:42:03.82\00:42:06.19
"And this is eternal
life that they may know you,
00:42:06.22\00:42:08.89
the only true
God and Jesus Christ
00:42:08.92\00:42:11.26
whom You have sent."
00:42:11.29\00:42:12.63
So it's eternal
life to know God,
00:42:12.66\00:42:15.53
and the Greek word I
found there for the word "know",
00:42:15.56\00:42:17.47
it's an interesting
word, you pronounce it ginosko.
00:42:17.50\00:42:20.67
And it literally
means, in the original Greek,
00:42:20.74\00:42:22.80
to know very close, to
know in a deep, intimate way.
00:42:22.84\00:42:26.68
So not just, you know,
"Oh, yeah, that's John,
00:42:26.71\00:42:29.08
I've heard of him," but
to really truly know him.
00:42:29.11\00:42:33.45
I was reading 1
John 2:3, one day.
00:42:33.52\00:42:38.02
Again, that question in my mind,
00:42:38.05\00:42:39.39
"Lord, how can
I truly know You?"
00:42:39.42\00:42:41.79
Again, with this idea in
my mind that, you know what,
00:42:41.82\00:42:44.43
"I want to be saved, I
want to truly know God,
00:42:44.46\00:42:46.80
but, Lord, I've been told
00:42:46.83\00:42:48.53
that I don't have to
be obedient to Your law
00:42:48.56\00:42:50.80
as long as I just love
Jesus and continue on with,
00:42:50.87\00:42:53.87
you know, my relationship."
00:42:53.94\00:42:55.40
But right here, 1
John 2:3, he says,
00:42:55.44\00:42:57.81
"Now by this, we
know," same word, ginosko,
00:42:57.84\00:43:01.98
"that we know Him," ginosko,
"if we keep His commandments."
00:43:02.01\00:43:07.62
And then in verse 6, he says,
"He who says he abides in Him
00:43:07.65\00:43:10.79
ought himself also to
walk just as He walked."
00:43:10.82\00:43:15.39
And you mentioned
that earlier. Yeah.
00:43:15.42\00:43:17.03
Well, I
deliberately stopped before 3
00:43:17.06\00:43:18.39
because I figured
someone's going to hit it.
00:43:18.43\00:43:20.50
Amen. It's too strong not to...
00:43:20.53\00:43:22.83
Absolutely.
00:43:22.86\00:43:24.20
Yeah. I have to...
00:43:24.27\00:43:26.37
He is sitting here
punching me because he was...
00:43:26.40\00:43:28.90
I did not punch you, I'm sorry.
00:43:28.94\00:43:31.27
Anyway, he translated my
sermon this past Sabbath,
00:43:31.31\00:43:36.01
and my sermon this past Sabbath
was "Know That You Know".
00:43:36.04\00:43:39.78
And so a lot of
this was in here.
00:43:39.81\00:43:41.55
But I have to just say
this 'cause it's so important.
00:43:41.58\00:43:45.02
Every now and
then, someone will say,
00:43:45.05\00:43:47.26
"Oh, you're a legalist,"
00:43:47.29\00:43:48.89
'cause you believe in
keeping the Ten Commandments.
00:43:48.92\00:43:52.86
Let me read to you why
I keep God's commandments.
00:43:52.89\00:43:57.77
1 John 5:3, I mean,
you can just go to 1 John,
00:43:57.80\00:44:00.57
and you're going to
have the whole thing here.
00:44:00.64\00:44:03.24
He says, "This
is the love of God
00:44:03.27\00:44:07.64
that we keep His commandments,
00:44:07.68\00:44:10.68
and His commandments
are not burdensome."
00:44:10.75\00:44:12.35
Amen.
00:44:12.38\00:44:13.72
See, when you look
at the Ten Commandments,
00:44:13.75\00:44:15.68
number one, they were
written in the past tense.
00:44:15.72\00:44:19.79
You know what that means?
I mean, in the future tense.
00:44:19.82\00:44:22.52
In future tense. Yes.
00:44:22.56\00:44:23.93
No! Past tense.
00:44:23.96\00:44:25.29
No, they were written
in the past tense, yes.
00:44:25.33\00:44:27.13
Yes, past tense. Because...
00:44:27.20\00:44:29.16
And what that
means is it's promised.
00:44:29.20\00:44:31.37
God was saying,
"Hey, when you're
00:44:31.40\00:44:33.10
in covenant
relationship with Me,
00:44:33.13\00:44:35.54
you're not going to have
any other gods before Me.
00:44:35.57\00:44:38.44
You're not going
to bow down to idols.
00:44:38.47\00:44:41.54
You are not going to
take My name in vain.
00:44:41.58\00:44:44.85
You can't wait to
celebrate the Sabbath with Me.
00:44:44.88\00:44:47.62
You won't...
00:44:47.65\00:44:49.05
You'll honor your
father and mother,
00:44:49.08\00:44:50.42
you won't commit murder,
adultery, or you won't steal,
00:44:50.49\00:44:52.39
you won't bear false testimony,
00:44:52.42\00:44:54.26
you won't covet
because that's what living
00:44:54.29\00:44:57.93
in covenant relationship
with Me is all about.
00:44:57.96\00:45:01.10
I'm going to do this for you
00:45:01.13\00:45:02.46
as I work in you to willing
to do your good pleasure."
00:45:02.50\00:45:05.87
And I guarantee you, if I say,
00:45:05.90\00:45:07.64
"Well, I don't
serve any other gods."
00:45:07.67\00:45:09.37
Nobody says, "Oh,
you're legalistic,
00:45:09.40\00:45:11.64
but you're
keeping that commandment."
00:45:11.67\00:45:14.08
It is obedience is, to me,
the highest form of worship.
00:45:14.11\00:45:20.72
That is true.
00:45:20.75\00:45:22.08
It is an expression of
loyalty and love to God.
00:45:22.12\00:45:28.42
And He says right
here, this is love for God
00:45:28.46\00:45:32.53
that you obey His commandments.
00:45:32.56\00:45:34.76
So it's as we are
walking in obedience,
00:45:34.80\00:45:41.34
this is where it
is, and, you know,
00:45:41.37\00:45:42.70
Hebrews 5:9, nobody
ever uses that scripture.
00:45:42.74\00:45:45.77
You know what
the Hebrews 5:9 says?
00:45:45.81\00:45:47.98
It says that, "He,
Christ, once He was perfect,
00:45:48.01\00:45:51.38
He became the
author of eternal salvation
00:45:51.41\00:45:55.55
for all who obey Him."
00:45:55.58\00:45:58.05
Obey Him, yes, yes.
00:45:58.09\00:45:59.82
Obedience, you
cannot get around it.
00:45:59.85\00:46:02.89
And even in our early church,
00:46:02.92\00:46:04.99
there was this tension
between obedience and grace
00:46:05.03\00:46:09.60
and thank
goodness, grace won out.
00:46:09.63\00:46:11.53
But not to the
neglect of obedience,
00:46:11.57\00:46:14.14
it's just where does
the obedience come from.
00:46:14.17\00:46:16.54
Yeah. Truth be told, when...
00:46:16.57\00:46:19.51
Everybody here is
married, if someone said,
00:46:19.54\00:46:23.58
"Shelley, you're not
allowed to cheat on JD."
00:46:23.65\00:46:25.98
You've been married
how many years, couple?
00:46:26.01\00:46:27.55
Thirty something plus, yeah.
00:46:27.62\00:46:28.95
Yeah, more or less.
Yeah, who's counting?
00:46:28.98\00:46:30.79
You're not allowed to
hear... Is that legalism?
00:46:30.82\00:46:33.36
No. Yeah. Ryan, is it...
00:46:33.39\00:46:35.19
You have a cute little
wife, is that legalism?
00:46:35.22\00:46:37.43
Absolutely not. Yeah.
00:46:37.46\00:46:38.79
And it's funny because I know
where you're going with this.
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When you go through
those Ten Commandments...
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Precisely.
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No one ever
considers it legalism
00:46:43.70\00:46:45.07
to not worship other gods
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or to, you know,
bear false witness, or...
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But there is one. There is one.
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There is one of the ten
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that people tend to
automatically associate
00:46:52.27\00:46:55.88
with a legalistic mindset.
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And, of course, we know
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that's the keeping of
the fourth commandment,
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the Sabbath.
00:47:00.92\00:47:02.25
Yeah. Amen.
00:47:02.28\00:47:03.62
Which is why in John 14:15,
He says, "If you love me,"
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preexisting condition,
"keep My commandments."
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And if you don't love Him,
00:47:07.66\00:47:08.99
you really can't do that anyway.
00:47:09.02\00:47:10.93
It has to be a response of love.
00:47:10.96\00:47:13.06
I teach people
because my wife has cold feet,
00:47:13.09\00:47:15.60
and, you know,
00:47:15.63\00:47:18.40
just when you're in that embryo,
00:47:18.43\00:47:19.90
getting ready to go to
sleep, you're just about there,
00:47:19.93\00:47:24.11
and here comes the cold feet,
it's like, "Ooh, I'm awake."
00:47:24.14\00:47:26.37
Yeah, that's right. But it's...
00:47:26.41\00:47:29.94
You've been
married X number of years,
00:47:29.98\00:47:31.85
that's you
signed on for, you know
00:47:31.88\00:47:33.65
and there are other kind
of things you sign up for,
00:47:33.72\00:47:35.38
and it's not burdensome.
00:47:35.42\00:47:37.85
You know, it's part
of the relationship.
00:47:37.89\00:47:39.35
Well, that's exactly
what you've been saying.
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You see, when the focus is
00:47:42.79\00:47:44.76
I love God, I
want to please Him,
00:47:44.79\00:47:47.86
I want to serve
Him, I want to honor Him,
00:47:47.90\00:47:51.53
then keeping the commandments
is a delight, not a burden,
00:47:51.57\00:47:55.87
not a way to salvation.
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But you do it
because you love God.
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And that's what it is.
00:48:00.31\00:48:01.64
He says, the first
thing in Great Commandment,
00:48:01.68\00:48:03.88
"Love the Lord, your
God with all your heart,
00:48:03.95\00:48:05.58
all your mind, all your soul."
00:48:05.61\00:48:08.25
This is the reason for
keeping the commandments
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and your neighbor as yourself.
00:48:10.72\00:48:12.59
And so this love of God
leads us to seek to please Him
00:48:12.62\00:48:18.76
in all points, in all things.
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And we have to remember, we
don't obey by our own power,
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even obedience is by grace.
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Yes, it is.
00:48:27.70\00:48:29.04
It is as, "God works in us
00:48:29.07\00:48:30.41
to will and to do
His good pleasures,"
00:48:30.44\00:48:31.77
is what He says
in Philippians 2:12.
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Let me throw in two...
00:48:33.68\00:48:35.01
I know you're
running out of time,
00:48:35.04\00:48:36.38
I want to throw
these two in. Romans 6:16.
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"Do you not know that to
whom you present yourself
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slaves to obey,
you are that one slaves
00:48:43.18\00:48:46.39
whom you obey, whether of sin,"
00:48:46.42\00:48:49.29
and we're going to either
be on one side or the other,
00:48:49.32\00:48:51.63
"you can either
be a slave to sin
00:48:51.66\00:48:55.23
which leads to death
00:48:55.26\00:48:56.97
or of obedience
leading to righteousness."
00:48:57.00\00:49:00.57
Christ came to destroy
the works of the devil,
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and He wants to work in us
00:49:03.61\00:49:05.47
to will and to do
His good pleasure,
00:49:05.51\00:49:07.48
to lead us on
obedience so that we are...
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It's righteousness by faith,
00:49:10.98\00:49:13.21
but listen to
what 1 John 3:7 says,
00:49:13.25\00:49:17.99
"Little children,
let no one deceive you,
00:49:18.02\00:49:19.99
he who practices
righteousness is righteous,
00:49:20.06\00:49:23.36
just as he is righteous.
00:49:23.43\00:49:24.86
He who sins is of the devil,
00:49:24.89\00:49:26.80
for the devil has
sinned from the beginning.
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For this purpose, the
Son of God was manifested
00:49:28.36\00:49:30.80
that He might destroy
the works of the devil."
00:49:30.87\00:49:33.20
Yes. So faith
without works is dead.
00:49:33.23\00:49:36.10
When we come to
the Lord and believe,
00:49:36.14\00:49:38.57
we yield, we
surrender, control to Him,
00:49:38.61\00:49:41.88
then He works in
us to will and to do.
00:49:41.91\00:49:44.28
He is not going to lead us
down the path of lawlessness
00:49:44.31\00:49:47.82
which is sin.
00:49:47.85\00:49:50.29
I like to say this because...
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In a way, for me, it's an easy
way to look at it, you know.
00:49:53.56\00:49:56.52
Do we have to
keep the commandments?
00:49:56.56\00:49:58.36
And there are those that say,
00:49:58.39\00:49:59.73
"Oh, no. We don't have
to keep the commandments."
00:49:59.76\00:50:02.10
Well, when you go to heaven,
00:50:02.13\00:50:03.90
is it going to be
okay to steal, to kill,
00:50:03.97\00:50:07.24
to commit adultery, to
covet, to have other gods?
00:50:07.27\00:50:11.47
Of course,
you're going to say no.
00:50:11.51\00:50:13.48
And if it's not
going to be okay in heaven,
00:50:13.51\00:50:15.54
it should not be
okay on this earth.
00:50:15.58\00:50:17.65
And so I like to
read here in James 2
00:50:17.68\00:50:21.22
and because of
time, read only verse 11.
00:50:21.25\00:50:25.52
No, no, verse 12.
00:50:25.55\00:50:26.96
"So speak ye and so do,
as they that will be judged
00:50:26.99\00:50:30.93
by the law of liberty."
00:50:30.96\00:50:33.03
Wow, look at that
James, also the law of liberty.
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That's right.
00:50:36.06\00:50:37.40
Because if you
don't, you're going to sin
00:50:37.47\00:50:39.60
and you're going
to be a slave to sin,
00:50:39.63\00:50:41.20
you don't have
liberty, you don't have Christ.
00:50:41.24\00:50:42.80
Amen.
00:50:42.84\00:50:44.21
You need Christ,
Christ is liberty,
00:50:44.24\00:50:46.34
loving Him is
seeking to please Him.
00:50:46.37\00:50:49.31
All right, love
it, love it, love it.
00:50:49.34\00:50:51.01
That's right.
00:50:51.05\00:50:52.38
Let's do this
because we're running out...
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I want you to
prepare your minds and hearts
00:50:53.95\00:50:55.65
for a short summary statement
00:50:55.68\00:50:57.42
after we come back
from our news break
00:50:57.49\00:50:59.75
'cause this hour has
gone so incredibly fast.
00:50:59.79\00:51:01.72
I want to just touch on
a text very, very quickly.
00:51:01.76\00:51:03.96
We're in 1 John,
and we could really
00:51:04.03\00:51:05.36
just sort of park the
car and pull over to the curb
00:51:05.39\00:51:07.03
at 1 John and stay there.
00:51:07.10\00:51:08.43
It's very good. And
exhaust this whole thing.
00:51:08.46\00:51:11.33
But 1 John 2:7,
00:51:11.37\00:51:13.23
you know, someone ran
up to me, and they said,
00:51:13.27\00:51:15.04
"Bible's talking out of
both sides of its mouth."
00:51:15.07\00:51:17.04
"Brethren, I write no
new commandment to you
00:51:17.11\00:51:19.24
but an old commandment,
00:51:19.27\00:51:20.61
which you have
heard from the beginning.
00:51:20.68\00:51:22.01
The old commandment is the word
00:51:22.04\00:51:23.75
which you've heard
from the beginning."
00:51:23.78\00:51:25.11
Then next verse, verse 8,
00:51:25.15\00:51:26.65
"Again, a new
commandment I write to you,
00:51:26.72\00:51:29.52
which thing is
true in him and in you."
00:51:29.55\00:51:32.25
And they were saying,
"Well, the Bible is speaking
00:51:32.29\00:51:33.66
out of both sided of its mouth."
00:51:33.69\00:51:35.02
It is not.
00:51:35.06\00:51:36.42
I don't
remember the Greek words,
00:51:36.46\00:51:37.79
one sounds like mayonnaise,
just that's in my mind.
00:51:37.83\00:51:40.73
But what Christ is
saying, "It's not a new thing,
00:51:40.80\00:51:42.93
it's a new thing to you."
00:51:42.96\00:51:44.30
Yes.
00:51:44.33\00:51:45.67
Because you're
thinking that you're free
00:51:45.70\00:51:47.04
from keeping commandments
00:51:47.07\00:51:48.40
because of what I did,
that's the "in Him" part.
00:51:48.44\00:51:49.77
It's not new.
00:51:49.80\00:51:51.14
It's the same commandment
from the very beginning.
00:51:51.17\00:51:53.38
It is not brand new.
00:51:53.41\00:51:54.74
It's new to you because
you haven't heard it before.
00:51:54.78\00:51:56.11
It's like buying a new
car, a second-hand car,
00:51:56.14\00:51:58.95
it's new to you, but
it's not a new car, you know.
00:51:58.98\00:52:01.28
Same old car, just new to you.
00:52:01.32\00:52:03.08
And Christ is
saying that, "It's not..."
00:52:03.12\00:52:04.62
"It's the same old
gospel, the same truth that
00:52:04.65\00:52:07.92
that we are saved by grace,
00:52:07.96\00:52:09.49
not through our labors
or through our efforts."
00:52:09.52\00:52:13.23
We're going to go
to our news break now,
00:52:13.26\00:52:14.60
and then I want you
to prepare, each of you,
00:52:14.63\00:52:16.06
for a closing statement,
a little bow tied on this
00:52:16.10\00:52:19.80
very, very interesting subject.
00:52:19.83\00:52:21.47
Let's go to the
news break just now.
00:52:21.50\00:52:23.07