I want to spend my life
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mending broken people,
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I want to spend my life
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removing pain...
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Lord, let my words
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heal a heart that hurts,
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I want to spend my life
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mending broken people...
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I want to spend my life
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mending broken people.
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Music...
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Hello, I'm Shelley Quinn
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and I am very
blessed to be the wife
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of this wonderful man
next to me, JD Quinn...
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and blessed to have you
on the program with us today.
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Well, this is special because
I'm looking forward to this,
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special... special
person we're talking with.
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Yes, we just want to
thank you for joining us
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on 3ABN Today Program.
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This is the "Mending
Broken People" network
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and I guarantee you... we
are going to hear a story today
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that you will see the power and
the glory of God to change lives
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in fact, let me
read the Scripture
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that I thought was
most appropriate for today
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and that is 2nd Corinthians 5:17
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that says, "Therefore,
if anyone is in Christ,
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he is a new creation;
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old things have passed away;
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behold, all
things have become new. "
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And we can certainly say that
for our dear friend and brother
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who is joining us today,
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he's part of our 3ABN staff
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and that is Bob Eads,
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Bob, we're so glad
you're with us today.
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Good morning, Thank
you for the opportunity.
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You know, you said
that you have been excited
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and desiring to
do this for years
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to tell your testimony on air
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and today you get that chance
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to talk about what
God did in your life.
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Praise God... praise God.
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And you said what...
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it's not your
personal testimony but...
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This is a miracle.
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The
miracle-working power of God.
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so, you're going to be
testifying about God, right.
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Amen, it's all about Him.
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And what I like
about Bob is that...
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Bob is one of
these guys that's...
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that's a very passionate...
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he has a passionate
relationship with the Lord
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and Bob is the type of person
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that's just talking
"Jesus" to everyone.
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Shelley: Yes he does...
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Now, there are a lot of people
that in certain situations
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they'll bring Christ up...
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then there's... there's Bob...
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and it's "Jesus, Jesus...
Jesus" he's a true inspiration.
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Shelley: Amen. JD
Quinn: True inspiration.
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He is my life... I
would have no life without Him
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He is the
life-giver and He energizes me
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and gives me the desire...
the willingness and the ability
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to talk about Him
every opportunity that I get,
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it doesn't matter whether
people accept it or not...
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I'm taking about Him.
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As we go through
this testimony...
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as we go through this miracle...
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let's just say that we
have scale of one to ten,
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we all could visualize that
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and man... you
started on a one...
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and now you're over here and
pinging at 9 and 1/2 and ten.
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This is truly a
miracle and I would imagine
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that there are a lot of
people that can identify...
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that they've had a similar
walk and as we like to say,
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"Just got sick and tired
of being sick and tired...
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there's got to be
more to life than this. "
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Absolutely, well, we just want
to encourage you to stay tuned
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because... and if you
know anyone who has...
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is maybe suffering addiction
to tobacco or alcohol or drugs
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or pornography... we're
going to cover it all today
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and to know that
there is truly hope
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and we just want to
take this opportunity
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before we get started
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to thank all of you
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for your prayers and your
love and your financial support
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because you'll see today
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this truly is the
Mending Broken People Network
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and it's possible because
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of the grace of our
Lord and Savior Jesus Christ
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and because of you.
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Before we begin, we
all love to hear music
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and we got a special treat today
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because Danny
Shelton will be singing,
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"Here I am, Dear Lord. "
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Amen.
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Music...
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Here I am
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dear Lord...
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Take me now...
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Take me now just as I am
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Take the breath you gave me
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Take this body of clay
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and mold me
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all over again.
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And I'll be what
you want me to be
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throughout eternity
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I'll breathe each
breath of my life for you
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each breath for you...
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breath for you
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Here I am... dear Lord
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Take me now...
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Take me now... just as I am
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Take the breath you gave me
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Take this body of clay
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and mold me
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all over again.
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And I'll spread
your love to everyone...
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and tell of Calvary
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I'll tell the
world what you mean to me
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what you mean to me...
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yes, mean to me...
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Here I am dear Lord...
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Take me now...
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Take me now just as I am...
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Take the breath you gave me
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Take this body of clay
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and mold me
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all over again.
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Music...
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I always love
to hear Danny sing,
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Danny is the
President and Founder of 3ABN
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and he truly is a
minister of music...
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JD Quinn: Amen.
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I mean, it's... I feel like...
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when I listen to him sing,
it's just like hearing a sermon
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so we enjoy that so much.
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Yeah, I was just saying, he
just makes it look so simple.
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It is simple for him.
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It is truly a gift.
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Yes, it is...
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Yes, absolutely.
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Well, if you're joining us
just a couple of moments late,
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we have a special
guest with us today
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and that is Bob Eads
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who is a new
creation in Christ Jesus
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and the Lord has
brought him through so much.
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Bob, let's just kind of
kick this off by going back
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to the beginning,
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tell us a little
of your childhood,
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did you grow up
in a Christian home?
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Actually, I did not,
my mother would take...
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my dad had nothing
to do with it at all...
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my mother would take my sister
and I to the Presbyterian church
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in the little
community in southern California
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where I was born and raised
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and drop us off
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and then pick us up at
the end of Sunday School
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and that was pretty much
the only religious background
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that I had.
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When we were old enough
to make our own decision,
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then I dropped
out it completely...
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I had no interest whatsoever
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so, that was
pretty much the extent
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of my religious background...
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pretty much zero when
you get right down to it.
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Okay, so, as a child...
were you a thriving child
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or were you... tell us a
little bit about your childhood.
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Well, actually, when
I was seven years old,
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I weighed 37 pounds.
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We were living in the
north-central Nebraska...
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small town of
Valentine at the time
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both of my parents were
heavy smokers... I had Asthma...
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the local doctors
were not able to diagnose.
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My mom finally
got me to a Specialist
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in southern
California at one time
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and he just flat told them,
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"You either move this
kid to a warm drive climate
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or bury him,
take your choice... "
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that next summer, we
moved to southern California
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and that's where I was raised
until I was about 18 years old.
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Okay, so, tell us
about that childhood.
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Well, I was the runt...
picked on a lot... bullied a lot
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by the time I
was seven years old,
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now this...
we're going back to...
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into the
Valentine, Nebraska again,
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this was prior to us moving out,
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I was about seven
when we moved out,
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older kids took my
sister and I down the alley...
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they actually had
alleys back in those days
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and they still do
in the little community
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and introduced us to cigarettes.
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My sister took one puff off
of the cigarette... got sick...
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never smoked
another day of her life,
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I was hooked and I smoked
for 22 or 23 years after that.
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At first I would...
because my parents both smoked
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there were cigarette
butts in the ash trays
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they'd put them out on
the floor... on the ground
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and different things like that
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so I was going
around collecting them...
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very small community...
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I would write notes
to the store keepers
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and say that my mom or my dad
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had sent me for a
pack of cigarettes,
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and something that
troubled me for many years...
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they both kept a
carton of cigarettes
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in one of the kitchen drawers,
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my mom was: Raleigh...
my dad was: Winston...
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and every now and then, a
pack of those would disappear.
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they never called me on that
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I think because... they
couldn't because they...
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they themselves smoked.
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Years later, I
talked to them... yes...
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But... but... I just want to ask
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you have Asthma... and
you've started smoking...
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did that not make it worse?
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Indeed it did... many
times throughout the year
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I would end up
in... in bed sick...
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taking many antibiotics,
losing a lot of time at work
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just feeling
miserable in general,
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but still the addiction
was stronger than all of that,
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the desire to have those
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and to continue
in that lifestyle
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was stronger than what
was going on physically.
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Nine years old, I was
introduced to pornography,
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I found a girlie
magazine somewhere
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in the little
community we lived in
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and that
carried on until 1997...
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that was the longest and
strongest addiction that I had
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throughout all these years
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and that's the one
that I know God is able...
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He can deliver us from that.
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I was fortunate enough...
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blessed enough to have
the One-Step Program...
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God just did away with it.
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Many people... there's nothing
wrong with the 12-Step Program,
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they introduce you to God
and help you along the way,
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some people need
that additional help
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of someone that suffers
from the same thing they do,
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but God just delivered
me... it was just done.
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I say that this is something
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that a lot of
people don't recognize
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is that
addiction... addiction...
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pornography is one of the
strongest addictions there is,
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it messes with
your brain chemistry
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as much as cocaine or heroin...
more than any of those.
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Yes, if I had to...
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and that is the one that I
still struggle with the most...
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we'll get to the
alcohol and the...
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and the other street drugs
and all that kind of stuff...
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that is the one
that was the hardest...
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the last to give up
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and that would be the one...
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if I ever gave up on God
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and went back to
any of the other stuff,
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that would be the one
thing I would go back to.
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The alcohol and the cigarettes
and the... all the rest of that
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were physically harmful,
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I mean, you could
feel the results of that
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but with the
pornography you don't...
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it's all going on in up here
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and, of course,
that changes everything
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throughout our entire system
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but when you're
in that addiction...
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when you're in that
predicament and that lifestyle,
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you don't realize that
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and because it is so prevalent
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many of your peers...
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many of the people
that are with you...
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I used to share the
materials that I had
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with a lot of married people
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and they would take it home
and pollute their families...
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their wives and I don't know...
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hopefully praise
God, not their children
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but at least their wives.
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So, here you are,
you've got a smoking addiction
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and then you develop
the pornography addiction...
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Bob: Yes, at nine...
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Shelley: When did the
drinking and the drugs come in?
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Back in the '50s and
'60s, when I was a kid,
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neighborhoods were still...
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we didn't lock the
doors to our homes...
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this is in southern California,
this is unheard of now,
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but the parents would
get together on weekends
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at somebody's house and
they would play their card games
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and they would bring their
alcohol... beer or wine, whiskey
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whatever it might
be... and their cigarettes
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and they would sit
around and play cards,
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well, all of the
kids from these families
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would gather at the same house
and we would pester our parents,
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"Oh mommy... I want
to... I want to taste that...
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I want a sip... I want a sip"
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and finally, to shut us up
and get us out of their hair
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so that they
could play their games,
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they would give us a sip
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and I think inadvertently,
that's where I developed that...
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that taste for alcohol
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so by the time I got out of
high school at 17 years old,
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I was an alcoholic.
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I was consuming daily,
00:15:06.90\00:15:08.24
we had a friend in school...
his dad ran a liquor store,
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owned and
operated a liquor store,
00:15:10.71\00:15:12.81
evening times our
friend would be...
00:15:12.87\00:15:14.68
he wasn't
supposed to sell alcohol
00:15:14.74\00:15:16.21
but out the
back door it would go
00:15:16.24\00:15:17.71
so we had a steady supply...
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several others did...
they hung together in a group.
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So, that was the alcohol
and then... six months...
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not six months...
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two weeks out of...
out of high school...
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I graduated in June of 1964,
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I joined the Navy
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and I was
introduced within six months...
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I was
introduced to the marijuana
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which ultimately led to
the cocaine... hashish...
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all of the pills...
the different pills...
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the uppers and the
downers and the rest of that
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and I became very, very
deep into that lifestyle
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and that carried on until 1997
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and this is where 3ABN
and Amazing Facts come in.
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Yes.
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Go ahead.
00:15:59.92\00:16:01.29
Well, 3ABN aired
a program that year,
00:16:01.32\00:16:03.49
it was called Satellite Seminar
00:16:03.53\00:16:04.86
the church did...
00:16:04.89\00:16:06.23
for those of you who are
Seventh-day Adventists out there
00:16:06.26\00:16:07.86
the church did not
have a Net Program that year
00:16:07.90\00:16:10.93
and Danny and
Pastor Doug teamed up
00:16:10.97\00:16:14.20
and they did a live satellite
broadcast... a Prophecy Seminar
00:16:14.24\00:16:17.07
I tuned into
that and I watched...
00:16:17.11\00:16:19.97
two weeks into that,
00:16:20.04\00:16:21.58
I was a born-again
Seventh-day Adventist Christian,
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without any prior
religious background...
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I did not own a Bible,
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I didn't need one
because I didn't believe in God,
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I went and
borrowed my mom's Bible
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King James Version oh!
what an experience that was!
00:16:30.25\00:16:33.66
It was like...
next day I was like,
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"Mom, how do you use this thing,
which chapter and verse...
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I don't know, I'm
listening to this stuff on 3ABN
00:16:38.19\00:16:39.79
and I don't know how to find it
00:16:39.86\00:16:41.20
and so she worked me
through on how to use the Bible.
00:16:41.23\00:16:44.27
Now...
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Are we still in the
Navy during this time
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or we passed Navy?
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We're passed Navy...
00:16:50.47\00:16:51.81
Okay, so, let's go
back to Navy for a minute...
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so you were... you
are a Vietnam Vet...
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Bob: I am.
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And you are on a ship
that shot how many rounds?
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We fired 5,000
rounds in one week,
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we set a record... we
were in the Stars and Stripes
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which was a publication of
the Navy... the U.S. Navy...
00:17:05.59\00:17:08.89
5- inch-54... that means that
the round was five inches around
00:17:08.92\00:17:13.70
and 54 inches high...
00:17:13.73\00:17:15.13
and we shot 5,000 of those...
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a small plane would
give us spotting directions
00:17:17.50\00:17:20.14
and we would
shoot into the jungle.
00:17:20.20\00:17:21.54
Okay, so, here you are...
00:17:21.57\00:17:23.44
it is in the Navy that you
get introduced to marijuana
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is that where you got on to
hashish and the other pills...
00:17:27.28\00:17:30.45
the uppers and the downers...
00:17:30.51\00:17:31.85
Bob: Yes.
00:17:31.88\00:17:33.58
You know, that
is so amazing to me
00:17:33.62\00:17:34.95
because we think if...
if you're sending off a son
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who's joined
some armed services,
00:17:38.45\00:17:41.12
you feel like
they're going to be...
00:17:41.16\00:17:43.83
have such good discipline
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but we hear this
story so often don't we
00:17:46.36\00:17:48.80
that people go into the
service and end up on drugs
00:17:48.86\00:17:53.07
so, you were in the
service for how many years?
00:17:53.13\00:17:56.44
I spent three years
and a month on active duty
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there's a four-year commitment,
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the rest of it was
on Inactive Reserves.
00:18:02.74\00:18:05.15
I was very
fortunate when I went it,
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if you joined before you were 18
you got out before you were 21
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so you could be in for as little
as three years and a month
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which is what I got or
three years and eleven months
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and then you
were off active duty.
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All right, were you
single at this point?
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You're single... so
you get out of the Navy
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and before you jump
to 3ABN, tell us the...
00:18:22.13\00:18:24.77
kind of fill in the blank there,
00:18:24.80\00:18:26.84
you married?
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Yes, my first
marriage was Alice 1...
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I am currently with Alice 2.
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Alice 1 was me...
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it was for lust and it
didn't last five years,
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a son came from that marriage,
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he'll be 48 this
August... August of this year
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and then, it gets a little...
it gets a little hazy from there
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right out of the Navy,
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I had moved to South Carolina
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to go and work for my
sister and brother-in-law,
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my brother-in-law was
still in the Navy at that time,
00:18:55.76\00:18:57.80
he was on nuclear submarines
00:18:57.83\00:18:59.17
they had started up a
business and I went down,
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that's where I
met my first wife,
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the first marriage came
from... in South Carolina
00:19:02.67\00:19:04.81
that's where my
son is and still is...
00:19:04.84\00:19:07.21
lost him for 24 years...
00:19:07.24\00:19:10.18
I was so heavily
involved in the drug culture...
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I moved away after
the divorce was final
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and went back to
southern California
00:19:15.82\00:19:17.99
and spent some
time with my sister
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and my niece and my nephew.
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Now, your wife actually
remarried and you gave...
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her new husband adopted
your son, is that correct?
00:19:25.36\00:19:29.50
Yes, they wanted
to adopt right away
00:19:29.56\00:19:31.53
and I refused
to let them do that
00:19:31.57\00:19:33.50
but after I moved
to southern California
00:19:33.54\00:19:35.90
and got much deeper
into the drug culture,
00:19:35.94\00:19:38.24
I got behind in child support
and they contacted me and said,
00:19:38.27\00:19:41.54
"Hey, if you don't want to
come back to South Carolina
00:19:41.58\00:19:43.21
and go to jail, let us adopt. "
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So, I allowed to let them adopt.
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When I did that, I
gave up the privileges
00:19:46.75\00:19:48.98
of being able to contact him...
00:19:49.02\00:19:50.35
have any... any
connection with him
00:19:50.39\00:19:52.09
at least until he was 18.
00:19:52.12\00:19:53.56
I was still cognizant enough to
realize that because of the...
00:19:53.62\00:19:58.16
the lifestyle I led,
00:19:58.19\00:20:00.00
I really didn't want him
to know anything about me.
00:20:00.03\00:20:01.66
I didn't... I wouldn't...
not have been proud as a father,
00:20:01.70\00:20:04.23
I was not a good father for the
five years he was in my life,
00:20:04.27\00:20:06.80
so, I kind of went
at it from that way.
00:20:06.84\00:20:10.71
When God brought
Alice 2 into my life,
00:20:10.74\00:20:13.48
she was working for
the Carolina Conf...
00:20:13.51\00:20:16.14
Shelley: Wait... wait...
wait... you jump ahead there...
00:20:16.18\00:20:18.25
okay, so, here you are
now, this... at this point
00:20:18.28\00:20:22.85
we've got a total mess, right?
00:20:22.88\00:20:24.65
Bob: Oh, absolutely.
00:20:24.72\00:20:26.05
Shelley: You're a wreck...
00:20:26.09\00:20:29.89
how did you tune in to 3ABN?
00:20:29.92\00:20:33.80
One night, I was
lying on my couch
00:20:33.83\00:20:36.23
in the little community
of Valentine, Nebraska,
00:20:36.26\00:20:38.43
north-central Nebraska,
00:20:38.47\00:20:39.80
nine miles from
South Dakota border,
00:20:39.83\00:20:41.30
bored to death... I had a large
satellite dish at that time
00:20:41.34\00:20:44.57
so they had 24
satellites across the horizon
00:20:44.61\00:20:47.51
with 24 channels on each one,
00:20:47.54\00:20:48.98
I did the math on that,
00:20:49.01\00:20:50.35
that's over 600
chann... 500 channels...
00:20:50.38\00:20:52.58
and I just started surfing...
I had an addiction to every...
00:20:52.61\00:20:56.22
if the movies didn't
have a lot of explosions
00:20:56.25\00:20:58.82
and naked or
semi-naked women in that,
00:20:58.85\00:21:00.26
I wouldn't even
be interested in it,
00:21:00.29\00:21:01.66
I had two hard core
triple X pornography channels
00:21:01.69\00:21:05.16
that I was subscribing to
00:21:05.19\00:21:06.53
and recording
almost 24 hours a day,
00:21:06.56\00:21:08.30
when I came into the church,
I had 60 six-hour VHS tapes
00:21:08.33\00:21:12.27
of absolutely nothing
but hard-core pornography.
00:21:12.33\00:21:14.20
I didn't want to watch anything.
00:21:14.24\00:21:15.67
That's a...
00:21:15.70\00:21:17.14
Shelley: That's a
God thing... if you...
00:21:17.17\00:21:19.01
if you've got that
pornography at that level
00:21:19.04\00:21:20.84
and you didn't
want to watch it...
00:21:20.88\00:21:22.24
you're... you're not
finding a single channel
00:21:22.28\00:21:24.35
that you want to watch.
00:21:24.41\00:21:25.85
Bob: Totally God...
00:21:25.88\00:21:27.22
so, I started surfing
the... the... the satellites...
00:21:27.25\00:21:30.15
and I'd spend about three
to five seconds on each channel
00:21:30.19\00:21:33.39
and when I
finished one satellite,
00:21:33.42\00:21:34.86
I'd move on to the next
00:21:34.89\00:21:36.46
somewhere down the line,
00:21:36.49\00:21:37.83
I ran across Doug
Batchelor preaching,
00:21:37.86\00:21:39.63
I don't recall the sermon,
00:21:39.66\00:21:41.20
oh, if I had just been smart
enough to write all this down,
00:21:41.23\00:21:43.47
but who knew...
00:21:43.53\00:21:45.37
and I was hooked and
I stayed on that channel
00:21:45.40\00:21:47.87
and I watched it
all the way through.
00:21:47.90\00:21:49.27
They had live questions...
people calling in...
00:21:49.30\00:21:51.61
and he was giving
answers and stuff...
00:21:51.64\00:21:52.97
Shelley: What hooked
you? What got you... I mean...
00:21:53.01\00:21:55.84
Bob: I think it... I
remember it was very colorful,
00:21:55.88\00:21:58.75
I suspect it may have had
something to do with the beast
00:21:58.78\00:22:01.08
or something in
the book of Revelation,
00:22:01.12\00:22:03.62
it was just...
because it was so colorful...
00:22:03.65\00:22:05.49
the language that he was using,
the things he was describing
00:22:05.52\00:22:08.22
and so, I stayed and I
watched the whole thing,
00:22:08.26\00:22:11.49
well, at the end of that, I
went back to my normal satellite
00:22:11.53\00:22:13.63
and regular
channels that I watch,
00:22:13.66\00:22:15.90
the next day, I
wanted more of course,
00:22:15.93\00:22:17.83
I... I'm... this is
great... I want more of this...
00:22:17.87\00:22:20.20
couldn't find it...
00:22:20.24\00:22:21.64
couldn't find it
00:22:21.67\00:22:23.04
I didn't remember the channel,
00:22:23.07\00:22:24.41
I didn't remember
the satellite it was on,
00:22:24.44\00:22:26.21
so, I started surfing again,
00:22:26.24\00:22:27.58
and I surfed for
two or three days...
00:22:27.61\00:22:30.01
I would... I mean,
there was religious stuff,
00:22:30.05\00:22:32.61
there was every... lot
of foreign language stuff,
00:22:32.68\00:22:34.88
all kinds of stuff
that I was not interested...
00:22:34.92\00:22:37.12
I wanted Doug Batchelor,
00:22:37.15\00:22:38.49
not know him by
name at that time...
00:22:38.52\00:22:39.95
that's what I was interested in
00:22:40.02\00:22:41.46
so I just went
back into the world
00:22:41.49\00:22:42.82
and back to my
regular programming,
00:22:42.86\00:22:44.19
two to three weeks
later, in my Television Guide
00:22:44.23\00:22:47.93
which was about this big,
00:22:47.96\00:22:49.30
there was a half-page Ad by 3ABN
00:22:49.33\00:22:52.80
advertising this upcoming
live satellite broadcast
00:22:52.83\00:22:57.54
Prophecy Seminar
with Doug Batchelor,
00:22:57.61\00:22:59.77
his picture was there...
00:22:59.84\00:23:01.18
I said, "That's
it... that's him... "
00:23:01.21\00:23:02.78
so, I knew... I
knew where to get it.
00:23:02.81\00:23:04.55
So, this was probably in 1990
or something like that... 1995?
00:23:04.61\00:23:08.55
This would have been 1997,
00:23:08.58\00:23:11.02
it was the fall of 1997...
it was when 3ABN aired that...
00:23:11.05\00:23:15.19
it was in the
old Boss Auditorium,
00:23:15.22\00:23:16.73
Bose... is it Bose or Boss?
00:23:16.79\00:23:18.23
Shelley: Boss.
00:23:18.26\00:23:19.59
The Boss... yes... and
the first time I came here
00:23:19.63\00:23:23.67
and went through the...
00:23:23.70\00:23:25.43
Shelley: Tour...
00:23:25.47\00:23:27.04
Bob: tour... yes
sometimes words just escape me,
00:23:27.07\00:23:29.34
too many years of
alcohol and other drugs, so...
00:23:29.37\00:23:31.77
but it's... please forgive me...
00:23:31.81\00:23:33.14
Gloria took us
back and I was shocked
00:23:33.17\00:23:35.94
because it was
no longer a Studio,
00:23:36.01\00:23:38.08
it was just storage at the time
00:23:38.11\00:23:40.12
and I said, "This is
where this happened?"
00:23:40.15\00:23:41.58
And they said, "Yes. "
00:23:41.62\00:23:42.95
So, that was quite an
experience to... to see that.
00:23:42.98\00:23:44.82
When I came to
3ABN... when God...
00:23:44.85\00:23:48.26
Shelley: Wait, wait,
wait... wait... wait...
00:23:48.29\00:23:49.62
you're going too...
00:23:49.66\00:23:51.19
I want to get back to
this new creation in Christ
00:23:51.26\00:23:53.63
so, you watch this Program...
this Series for two weeks...
00:23:53.66\00:24:00.67
Bob: Yes.
00:24:00.70\00:24:02.04
Shelley: And you surrendered
control of your life to God
00:24:02.07\00:24:05.64
and asked Christ to be
your Savior and to guide you...
00:24:05.67\00:24:09.14
Bob: Absolutely.
00:24:09.18\00:24:10.51
So, you just did
that in your own bedroom?
00:24:10.55\00:24:14.22
Yes, in my living room,
00:24:14.25\00:24:15.78
in this... I was purchasing
a 14-by-70-foot Mobile Home,
00:24:15.82\00:24:19.85
it was about 24
years old at the time
00:24:19.89\00:24:21.96
it was in excellent shape,
00:24:21.99\00:24:23.32
the people I had
purchased it from
00:24:23.36\00:24:24.69
had already
raised their children,
00:24:24.73\00:24:26.19
the lady had made custom
drapes, it was a nice place,
00:24:26.23\00:24:28.93
and that's where... now
I watched the whole Series,
00:24:28.96\00:24:31.83
it was this... two weeks
into it is when I surrendered
00:24:31.87\00:24:34.34
and I said, "You know,
God, I want you to be my Savior,
00:24:34.37\00:24:36.81
what do I need to do?"
00:24:36.84\00:24:38.51
And He... and
continuing to watch Pastor Doug
00:24:38.54\00:24:41.51
as he explained the steps
through that Prophecy Seminar
00:24:41.54\00:24:44.38
and that's what I love
about these prophecy seminars,
00:24:44.41\00:24:47.18
they start out
building a foundation...
00:24:47.22\00:24:48.58
"Who is Jesus?"
00:24:48.65\00:24:49.98
"What can He do in your life?"
00:24:50.02\00:24:51.69
Showing and
displaying the power that He has
00:24:51.72\00:24:55.36
and His willingness
00:24:55.39\00:24:57.03
no matter where
we're in in our lives
00:24:57.06\00:24:58.49
because I'm a mess...
I'm just... I'm alone...
00:24:58.53\00:25:02.50
and yet, He loved me
enough and still loves me
00:25:02.53\00:25:05.57
to the point that He
was willing to lead me
00:25:05.63\00:25:08.64
and guide me
through this process.
00:25:08.67\00:25:10.01
Now, this is really
interesting right now
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so I want to talk
some emotions for a second
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because there
are a lot of people
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that... who are
finding themselves
00:25:17.78\00:25:19.68
that there is no meaning...
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there is no
purpose in their life...
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so, you're sitting
here you're watching this,
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obviously the Holy
Spirit's working in your life.
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Bob: Very much.
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What does that mean? Are
you feeling something inside
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are you feeling drawn...
00:25:32.69\00:25:34.06
something wanted you to
get down on your knees and say,
00:25:34.10\00:25:37.63
"Lord, take my hand... "
00:25:37.67\00:25:39.00
I mean, what happened?
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I mean, how does that work?
00:25:41.97\00:25:43.30
I'd like to hear
that from a human being...
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to the best of your
ability and if you can't...
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it is beyond words... okay.
00:25:47.68\00:25:50.05
Bob: I will... I
will try to describe it.
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There were feelings... there
were physical manifestations
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pause
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Shelley: Like your
heart's fluttering...
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Bob: Yes, I... really
I guess I felt flushed...
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I felt lifted up...
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not like I'm floating off the
floor or anything like that...
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but I just felt different...
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I knew that I was
different at that time...
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I knew that something
was going on in my life
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that I could not explain
00:26:17.37\00:26:18.87
but it was
something that I wanted...
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it was something
that I desired...
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and I just...
"Lord, don't stop now...
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keep going... keep going. "
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Something was different
so now you begin to think,
00:26:25.98\00:26:29.18
"Maybe God is for real. "
00:26:29.22\00:26:31.12
Bob: Yes... well there
wasn't any "maybe" about it...
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after two weeks... I'd
like to explain it like this
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it was almost like...
like God just took a zipper
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unzipped my brain...
00:26:38.46\00:26:39.79
flipped it open in my head
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and just started
pouring in the truth.
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JD Quinn: Wow... wow.
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Bob: The Bible...
and the Bible only...
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JD Quinn: So, what
does surrender mean?
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Because at that
time you're unzipping...
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and you're pouring in...
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you know, Jesus is
coming into your life
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into your mind...
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you're changing your priorities.
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Bob: Yes.
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JD Quinn: So this... now
we're bringing up surrender,
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I mean, that's
the word that we use,
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well it's personal surrender...
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so, how does that work?
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I suspect it's
different for each individual,
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the way it worked for
me is I knew in an instant
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that I had to change...
that I had to be different...
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now, we have to go back again...
00:27:19.50\00:27:22.14
God worked in my
life in many ways
00:27:22.20\00:27:24.77
prior to my accepting Him,
prior to my belief in Him...
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to... no Bible...
had no belief in God...
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He brought
circumstances about in my life
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to give me
opportunities to make choices.
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JD Quinn: Hmmm...
Shelley: Hmmm... hmmm...
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Bob: So, He took...
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I say, "He took.. "
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I surrendered
cigarettes, nicotine in 1977...
00:27:43.22\00:27:46.43
it was about
1953 when I started...
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1977...
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He withdrew His
protection from me,
00:27:50.27\00:27:52.23
I was working in a
very harsh environment,
00:27:52.27\00:27:54.30
very long hard
hours... strong chemicals...
00:27:54.34\00:27:57.21
lot of noise... and
I got walking Pneumonia
00:27:57.27\00:28:00.14
and I went to the VA hospital
00:28:00.18\00:28:01.98
the only insurance I
had for most of my life
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and they said,
"Okay, you got two choices,
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we'll put you in
bed and dry you out
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and get your lungs healed
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or you can quit
smoking, take your choice. "
00:28:09.18\00:28:11.15
I chose to quit smoking
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because if I had gone
into the hospital for 30 days,
00:28:13.32\00:28:15.66
that took away the
rest of my drugs...
00:28:15.69\00:28:17.16
the marijuana... the cocaine...
all the rest... that was gone...
00:28:17.19\00:28:19.19
and then back then it was
caffeine and any other thing
00:28:19.23\00:28:22.16
that I could cram into my body
00:28:22.20\00:28:23.67
and I didn't
want that to happen,
00:28:23.70\00:28:25.23
so I just laid
them down and quit.
00:28:25.27\00:28:26.74
For many years, I
took credit for that,
00:28:26.77\00:28:28.27
I said, "Yeah, I
just quit smoking,
00:28:28.30\00:28:29.87
you know, just
got tired of it. "
00:28:29.90\00:28:31.24
But it was... that
was the motivation.
00:28:31.27\00:28:33.61
God brought that
circumstance about in my life
00:28:33.64\00:28:36.48
where I could make that choice.
00:28:36.51\00:28:38.25
Shelley: You just
didn't recognize it.
00:28:38.31\00:28:39.65
Bob: I didn't
know at the time...
00:28:39.68\00:28:41.02
oh, at this time, I'm
still like, "grrrhhh... "
00:28:41.05\00:28:42.75
everything that went wrong
in my life... I'm cursing God...
00:28:42.78\00:28:44.42
don't believe in Him...
00:28:44.45\00:28:45.79
but everything goes
wrong in your life, you curse,
00:28:45.82\00:28:47.42
who do you curse?
00:28:47.46\00:28:48.79
You don't curse anybody,
you don't curse your parents
00:28:48.82\00:28:50.43
or who you're working
for... it's always God.
00:28:50.46\00:28:51.99
"Well, why you're doing this?"
00:28:52.03\00:28:53.66
That's so interesting
00:28:53.70\00:28:55.03
because God really doesn't
exist because you're Atheist,
00:28:55.06\00:28:57.30
but yet you get to blame God...
00:28:57.33\00:28:58.97
so I mean... so
there's an oxymoron.
00:28:59.00\00:29:01.34
Bob: You got to blame somebody,
you can't blame yourself, right,
00:29:01.37\00:29:03.07
if you blame yourself,
you know you're in trouble.
00:29:03.10\00:29:04.81
All right, so
He... you were already...
00:29:04.84\00:29:07.64
had dealt with the cigarettes
00:29:07.68\00:29:10.48
just because it's a
life or death motivation
00:29:10.51\00:29:13.88
you had to give...
00:29:13.92\00:29:15.68
now, he was also...
00:29:15.72\00:29:17.39
weren't you beginning to give up
some of the drugs in your life?
00:29:17.45\00:29:20.79
No, I continued
with the marijuana for...
00:29:20.82\00:29:23.02
the next big step where
He brought in my life...
00:29:23.09\00:29:26.36
now this was 1977...
11 years later, in 1988...
00:29:26.39\00:29:29.20
circumstances that He
brought about in my life
00:29:29.23\00:29:32.00
where I was able to give up
the alcohol and the other drugs.
00:29:32.03\00:29:35.20
the alcohol... I was working
part time at a liquor store
00:29:35.24\00:29:38.04
in this small... back in
Nebraska at this time now,
00:29:38.07\00:29:40.84
I lived up there
19 years as an adult
00:29:40.88\00:29:42.61
five years as a child
00:29:42.64\00:29:44.21
and I just went to my
boss and just told him,
00:29:44.25\00:29:48.88
I said, "You know, I'm
$14,000 in credit card debt,
00:29:48.92\00:29:51.22
there's no way I can live
long enough to pay it off,
00:29:51.25\00:29:53.12
what am I going to do?"
00:29:53.15\00:29:54.49
And I'm
purchasing this Mobile Home,
00:29:54.52\00:29:56.19
the first real logical thing
that I ever did in my whole life
00:29:56.22\00:29:59.63
and I think this helped to
move my dad to do what he did.
00:29:59.66\00:30:03.06
Pause.
00:30:03.10\00:30:06.53
I went to my boss and said...
00:30:06.57\00:30:07.90
and I had just bought
two cases Dos Equis...
00:30:07.94\00:30:10.51
imported Mexican beer... that's
what I was hooked on at the time
00:30:10.54\00:30:13.17
I was buying it at
cost... kept it in his cooler,
00:30:13.21\00:30:15.74
I had a key... I
locked up at nights
00:30:15.78\00:30:17.11
so I could go in the
liquor store any time I wanted
00:30:17.15\00:30:18.81
and get my stuff...
my fix... so to speak
00:30:18.85\00:30:21.65
and I just went to Bill
and I said, "You know Bill... "
00:30:21.68\00:30:23.69
I said, "Man, I
just... I really can't afford
00:30:23.75\00:30:25.35
to do this anymore,
I need to stop this,
00:30:25.39\00:30:26.79
what am I going to do?"
00:30:26.82\00:30:28.16
He said, "Well, no problem"
00:30:28.19\00:30:29.52
he walked over to the cash
register... pulled up the money,
00:30:29.56\00:30:31.69
paid me back for
the liquor and said,
00:30:31.73\00:30:33.06
"I'll just sell it
through the store. "
00:30:33.09\00:30:34.66
So, that was the
end of the alcohol.
00:30:34.70\00:30:36.03
JD Quinn: Wow!
00:30:36.06\00:30:37.40
Still the pornography is there,
00:30:37.43\00:30:39.30
still the
street drugs are there.
00:30:39.33\00:30:41.14
Well, shortly after the
alcohol, I got to thinking,
00:30:41.17\00:30:43.54
my stash was getting low...
00:30:43.57\00:30:44.97
that's the little bit
of marijuana I had left
00:30:45.01\00:30:46.57
and the last
little bit of hashish...
00:30:46.61\00:30:48.51
I'd always to go
Denver and visit an aunt
00:30:48.54\00:30:50.45
and that's where
my connection was.
00:30:50.48\00:30:51.81
People in this little
town of Valentine had no clue
00:30:51.85\00:30:54.78
that I was involved
in any of this stuff,
00:30:54.82\00:30:56.62
I was hanging with the
Sheriffs... several deputies...
00:30:56.65\00:31:00.06
we hunted together
00:31:00.09\00:31:01.42
we were on the Fire Department,
00:31:01.46\00:31:03.29
volunteer Fire
Department together,
00:31:03.32\00:31:04.66
none of them had a clue
that any of this was going on.
00:31:04.69\00:31:06.59
I was very... very
good at hiding this
00:31:06.63\00:31:09.96
so... which was living a lie...
00:31:10.00\00:31:12.30
and I was one of the
best liars you ever met,
00:31:12.33\00:31:14.60
I lied myself out of a
lie-detector test one time...
00:31:14.67\00:31:17.61
we won't go into that
00:31:17.64\00:31:18.97
so, I gave up that and
I said, "You know what?
00:31:19.01\00:31:22.01
When I finish this
last little bit of marijuana
00:31:22.04\00:31:24.61
and the last little bit of
Hashish, I'm just going to quit
00:31:24.65\00:31:26.75
I'm not going to
Denver and get anymore. "
00:31:26.78\00:31:28.95
Here again, this is
God working in my life
00:31:28.98\00:31:31.15
trying to clean me
up and sober me up...
00:31:31.19\00:31:33.79
and get me in the
right frame of mind enough
00:31:33.82\00:31:36.39
to where in 19...
now this was '88...
00:31:36.42\00:31:38.79
it wasn't until '97
when I saw that Program.
00:31:38.83\00:31:41.93
So, even though I'd given
up all these other addictions,
00:31:41.96\00:31:45.60
the pornography was still there,
00:31:45.63\00:31:47.50
and the inordinate
lifestyle, I... I wasn't...
00:31:47.54\00:31:50.77
I had not accepted Christ...
I wasn't believing in Him,
00:31:50.81\00:31:53.41
I still didn't have a Bible,
00:31:53.44\00:31:54.78
but I look back now
00:31:54.81\00:31:56.14
and for many years, I
took credit for all that stuff
00:31:56.18\00:31:57.65
and I know now, that was the
Holy Spirit working in my life.
00:31:57.68\00:32:00.12
if He had not done what He did
00:32:00.15\00:32:01.82
and cleaned me up as He did,
00:32:01.85\00:32:03.45
now, we know God is
strong... he can do anything...
00:32:03.49\00:32:06.12
but there is a point in
our life where we can reach
00:32:06.15\00:32:08.76
where we can't be reached...
00:32:08.79\00:32:10.13
and I was heading that way.
00:32:10.16\00:32:11.49
What's interesting...
00:32:11.53\00:32:13.23
because here again we
hear this all the time.
00:32:13.26\00:32:15.83
"God chased me down. "
00:32:15.86\00:32:18.10
Now, in this situation,
we begin to see here...
00:32:18.13\00:32:21.70
it's kind of interesting
the seven, seven, eight, eight,
00:32:21.74\00:32:24.17
you know, and all this
00:32:24.21\00:32:25.84
but God actually did...
00:32:25.87\00:32:27.51
as you're looking
back with a clean mind,
00:32:27.54\00:32:30.45
God was chasing
you all the time.
00:32:30.48\00:32:33.35
Yes, He never gave up on me,
00:32:33.38\00:32:35.22
He will never give up on you...
you out there in the audience,
00:32:35.28\00:32:38.82
let me tell you something,
everything I've been through,
00:32:38.85\00:32:41.12
you may have been through
the same or maybe even worse,
00:32:41.16\00:32:44.23
God will never give up on
you, you have to give up on Him.
00:32:44.26\00:32:47.26
Amen... so...
and... and it's interesting
00:32:47.30\00:32:51.57
because I've always heard
00:32:51.60\00:32:52.93
pornography is the most
difficult addiction to give up
00:32:52.97\00:32:57.17
so that's the one
that's really still got you...
00:32:57.21\00:32:59.11
Satan had you in his
grips through that one
00:32:59.17\00:33:02.24
but now, you watched
this Series for two weeks,
00:33:02.31\00:33:05.71
you said... you
became a born-again Christian
00:33:05.75\00:33:08.92
which means, you
invited the Holy Spirit,
00:33:08.95\00:33:12.09
the Lord be your Savior
00:33:12.12\00:33:13.89
and were filled
with the Holy Spirit...
00:33:13.96\00:33:15.62
now, let me ask
you this question,
00:33:15.66\00:33:19.36
you also said, "I
became a born-again
00:33:19.39\00:33:23.06
Seventh-day Adventist Christian"
00:33:23.10\00:33:27.57
what do you mean by that?
00:33:27.60\00:33:29.10
Were you a big pork eater?
00:33:29.14\00:33:30.57
Were you... I
mean... we know all of the...
00:33:30.61\00:33:33.04
what changes... was it...
00:33:33.07\00:33:35.51
why was it different to
be an Adventist Christian?
00:33:35.54\00:33:38.48
I had about 30 or 35 dollars
worth of center-cut pork chops
00:33:38.51\00:33:43.59
in my freezer at the time,
00:33:43.62\00:33:44.95
I knew I had to give up pork
00:33:44.99\00:33:46.32
and I struggled with that...
"Now what am I going to do?"
00:33:46.35\00:33:48.29
Well, my sister
and brother-in-law
00:33:48.32\00:33:49.66
lived about five miles
outside of town on a ranch,
00:33:49.69\00:33:51.56
they had their own ranch...
they had this German Shepherd
00:33:51.59\00:33:54.10
and I said, "Ah, I'll take
it out there and give it to them
00:33:54.13\00:33:56.56
so they can give it
to the German Shepherd"
00:33:56.60\00:33:58.47
and I thought about
that for a few minutes...
00:33:58.50\00:34:00.40
"Naw... they're not
going to give that food
00:34:00.44\00:34:02.00
to the German Shepherd,
00:34:02.04\00:34:03.37
they're going to
cook 'em and eat 'em. "
00:34:03.41\00:34:04.74
So, I ended up taking them
to the back of one of the...
00:34:04.77\00:34:06.44
little small community...
we had three grocery stores
00:34:06.47\00:34:08.34
and I just went to one of the
dumpsters at the grocery store
00:34:08.38\00:34:09.94
and just threw them away...
00:34:10.01\00:34:11.35
nobody got 'em.
00:34:11.38\00:34:12.71
So you were really
convicted about the diet.
00:34:12.75\00:34:14.68
I was committed, I had
no problem with the Sabbath
00:34:14.72\00:34:16.52
because I'd never kept Sunday,
00:34:16.55\00:34:17.99
I didn't have many years
of a religious experience
00:34:18.02\00:34:21.52
to have to give up
00:34:21.56\00:34:22.89
I was just an open book.
00:34:22.92\00:34:24.26
So you saw in the Scripture
and as... as this truth...
00:34:24.29\00:34:27.96
it just... it is
easier to accept truth
00:34:28.00\00:34:33.27
when you're not trying to
replace beliefs that are wrong.
00:34:33.30\00:34:36.64
Bob: Exactly, I didn't
have to un-learn anything.
00:34:36.67\00:34:39.34
But now, let's talk
about your physical condition
00:34:39.37\00:34:42.88
because you had been 37
pounds at the age of seven,
00:34:42.91\00:34:46.35
were you still a
little slender thing here?
00:34:46.41\00:34:49.08
200 pounds... that
night I was lying on my couch,
00:34:49.12\00:34:53.79
the town saw me lose
70 pounds in seven months
00:34:53.82\00:34:58.06
simply by adopting
Genesis chapter 1 verse 29
00:34:58.09\00:35:02.26
and Genesis chapter 3
verse 18, that's where God...
00:35:02.33\00:35:06.20
Well, explain that for people
00:35:06.23\00:35:07.80
who may not have
their Bibles right there.
00:35:07.84\00:35:09.44
Genesis 1:29 lays out
the foods that we should eat
00:35:09.50\00:35:12.77
and there are no animal
products included in that list,
00:35:12.81\00:35:15.31
it's all the original Eden diet
00:35:15.34\00:35:18.41
and then in chapter 3 verse 18,
00:35:18.45\00:35:21.48
after sin is when we were
given the herb of the field
00:35:21.52\00:35:24.42
and today, that's
what we know as vegetables.
00:35:24.45\00:35:26.35
Prior to that,
everything was seed bearing,
00:35:26.39\00:35:28.02
nothing died...
00:35:28.06\00:35:29.39
and in Paradise, we
didn't kill anything to eat it,
00:35:29.42\00:35:31.33
it just continued to perpetuate.
00:35:31.36\00:35:33.13
Well, there were things missing
in our diet that we needed,
00:35:33.16\00:35:35.76
after sin entered
and God provided for that
00:35:35.80\00:35:38.30
praise God... like He
does for all of our needs
00:35:38.33\00:35:40.80
by giving us vegetables.
00:35:40.84\00:35:42.77
So maybe that's why your
kids don't like vegetables,
00:35:42.80\00:35:44.87
it comes natural.
00:35:44.94\00:35:46.27
Well, and... and if
you are just tuning in
00:35:46.31\00:35:50.95
to 3ABN for the first
time, essentially it is that
00:35:50.98\00:35:56.18
God did distinguish when
He told Adam to... not Adam...
00:35:56.22\00:36:02.26
when He told Noah to
get the animals on the ark,
00:36:02.32\00:36:06.19
He distinguished
between clean and unclean foods
00:36:06.23\00:36:10.07
and He had them coming in...
00:36:10.10\00:36:11.53
the unclean... in
pairs onto the ark
00:36:11.57\00:36:14.80
but the clean animals... He
had them come in seven pairs
00:36:14.84\00:36:19.44
and so, the whole point is that
00:36:19.47\00:36:22.34
it wasn't until after the flood
00:36:22.38\00:36:25.21
that... when all the vegetation
and the fruits were destroyed,
00:36:25.25\00:36:29.32
that God had
added meat to the diet
00:36:29.35\00:36:32.19
but He
distinguished the clean meat
00:36:32.25\00:36:34.82
so, pork is one of
those He said, "Don't eat...
00:36:34.86\00:36:38.53
it's an abomination. "
00:36:38.56\00:36:39.89
So, you are now not just
being spiritually renewed
00:36:39.93\00:36:46.20
but you are being physically...
00:36:46.23\00:36:48.77
I can't imagine you 70 pounds
heavier in the first place
00:36:48.80\00:36:51.77
but you're being
physically renewed
00:36:51.81\00:36:54.74
and people around
you are noticing this.
00:36:54.78\00:36:56.78
Yes, this has been a mystery
to me for all these years,
00:36:56.81\00:37:00.75
my sister has never
accepted this message,
00:37:00.78\00:37:03.18
she has had Seventh-day
Adventist close friends
00:37:03.22\00:37:06.05
in her
background for many years...
00:37:06.09\00:37:07.52
a lady lived next door to her
00:37:07.56\00:37:09.79
when her husband abandoned
her in southern California
00:37:09.82\00:37:11.99
a Seventh-day Adventist
lady took care of her kids
00:37:12.03\00:37:14.20
while she went back to
college to finish her education
00:37:14.23\00:37:16.73
and she was a good
Seventh-day Adventist Christian,
00:37:16.77\00:37:19.10
she shared literature...
00:37:19.13\00:37:20.47
my sister read
something in Ellen White
00:37:20.50\00:37:22.57
that she just
totally disagreed with
00:37:22.60\00:37:24.97
and she has,
since then, never...
00:37:25.04\00:37:27.34
including now, after seeing
what's gone on in my life,
00:37:27.38\00:37:30.31
has still never been
willing to read anymore
00:37:30.35\00:37:32.38
or to even accept it...
00:37:32.41\00:37:33.75
she just closed
her mind totally.
00:37:33.78\00:37:35.12
Shelley: That's sad.
00:37:35.15\00:37:36.48
The Sabbath... I've
had discussions with her
00:37:36.52\00:37:37.89
on the Sabbath...
she's seen me... how I go...
00:37:37.95\00:37:40.52
Shelley: Yeah, so, once again,
you've got this two-week thing,
00:37:40.56\00:37:46.39
now we're going into
body cleansing that...
00:37:46.43\00:37:49.70
I mean, God is really
doing something for you,
00:37:49.73\00:37:52.93
how did you meet Alice 2?
00:37:52.97\00:37:56.00
A friend of mine...
00:37:56.04\00:37:57.67
in the small church
there in Valentine, Nebraska
00:37:57.71\00:38:00.58
put me on a
Christian Dating Service
00:38:00.61\00:38:03.08
through
circumstances prior that...
00:38:03.14\00:38:05.28
I wasn't really interested
but I had asked for it.
00:38:05.31\00:38:07.02
Shelley: You had
joined the church
00:38:07.05\00:38:08.38
and this man was...
became a close friend.
00:38:08.42\00:38:10.59
Bob: Yeah. Shelley: Okay.
00:38:10.62\00:38:12.05
Bob: And put me on a
Christian Dating Service
00:38:12.09\00:38:13.76
thinking that I was looking
for a wife... which I wasn't...
00:38:13.79\00:38:15.82
but he misinterpreted
some statements that I'd made.
00:38:15.86\00:38:19.43
On a Sabbath Afternoon,
he invited me home for lunch
00:38:19.46\00:38:23.03
and he said, "Come
on down to the basement,
00:38:23.06\00:38:24.73
I want to show you something"
00:38:24.77\00:38:26.10
and there I was
on a computer screen
00:38:26.13\00:38:27.70
on this
Christian Dating Service.
00:38:27.74\00:38:29.50
And I said, "Well,
Wendall, what's this?"
00:38:29.57\00:38:31.71
And he told me and I
said, "I'm not interested"
00:38:31.74\00:38:34.48
you know, "I'm not
looking for a wife"
00:38:34.51\00:38:35.98
I'm a year and
half in the church,
00:38:36.04\00:38:37.45
all I had... I took every free
Bible Study that 3ABN offers
00:38:37.48\00:38:41.28
every one of them,
00:38:41.32\00:38:42.65
Voice of Prophecy, It
is Written, Amazing Facts,
00:38:42.68\00:38:44.62
whatever you guys have
that 3ABN has produced,
00:38:44.65\00:38:46.82
I've done them all,
00:38:46.86\00:38:48.19
that was my life... and I
just couldn't get enough of it,
00:38:48.22\00:38:50.33
well, he said, "Well"
00:38:50.36\00:38:52.33
he said, "We've got to do
something with it, Bob... "
00:38:52.36\00:38:54.73
he said, "I paid ten bucks to
get this thing on the computer"
00:38:54.76\00:38:57.43
and he said,
"It's not refundable"
00:38:57.47\00:38:59.07
I said, "You know,
Wendall, I'm sorry,
00:38:59.10\00:39:00.74
but I'm not interested
in this so just forget it. "
00:39:00.80\00:39:03.10
And he said, "Well,
we've already got this"
00:39:03.17\00:39:05.27
he said, "And I got to have this
00:39:05.31\00:39:06.64
so let's just play
around for a couple of times
00:39:06.68\00:39:08.68
and see what happens. "
00:39:08.71\00:39:10.05
So, we contacted two or three
women on this dating service
00:39:10.08\00:39:13.65
and nothing came
of it except Alice...
00:39:13.68\00:39:17.55
Alice 2... no
picture... no picture for me
00:39:17.59\00:39:21.36
his software was not
compatible with "Shining Stars"
00:39:21.39\00:39:24.26
so, they couldn't
see what I looked like,
00:39:24.33\00:39:26.59
through a series of miracles,
00:39:26.63\00:39:28.93
we tried communicating
twice on the computer
00:39:28.96\00:39:32.13
after we got our
initial conversation going
00:39:32.17\00:39:34.80
and that was not
going to happen anymore
00:39:34.84\00:39:37.44
so we switched
over to telephone.
00:39:37.47\00:39:39.94
Alice 2 and I...
my current Alice...
00:39:39.97\00:39:42.34
were on the
telephone for six weeks.
00:39:42.38\00:39:44.48
At the end of six
weeks, we got married.
00:39:44.51\00:39:46.55
JD Quinn: Wow!
Shelley: Praise God!
00:39:46.58\00:39:48.18
We like to tell
people, "We had to get married,
00:39:48.22\00:39:49.82
we had the $500 phone
bill, man, we couldn't keep...
00:39:49.85\00:39:51.85
you can't keep dating like this,
man, we can't afford this. "
00:39:51.89\00:39:54.52
Shelley: That was
back in the day, right?
00:39:54.56\00:39:56.79
Bob: Yes, yes...
00:39:56.83\00:39:58.19
she was familiar with
Pigeon Forge and Gatlinburg
00:39:58.23\00:40:00.86
in Tennessee
00:40:00.90\00:40:02.23
and that's where she
wanted to get married
00:40:02.26\00:40:03.60
and I said, "That's
fine, I'll marry you anywhere,
00:40:03.63\00:40:04.97
you know, I just love you and
I want to get married anyway. "
00:40:05.00\00:40:06.97
So we had all the
arrangements for our marriage
00:40:07.04\00:40:09.17
and our wedding was all made
and paid for on Credit Card.
00:40:09.20\00:40:12.57
Now, the final agreement was...
00:40:12.61\00:40:14.71
I'm going to fly
from Valentine, Nebraska
00:40:14.74\00:40:16.81
down to
Charlotte, North Carolina
00:40:16.85\00:40:18.18
which was where she
was working part-time
00:40:18.21\00:40:19.55
for the Carolina Conference
of Seventh-day Adventists
00:40:19.58\00:40:21.75
and that's when we were going
to make our final decision.
00:40:21.78\00:40:24.02
Shelley: Had you met at
all? Bob: No... no, no, no.
00:40:24.05\00:40:26.25
Shelley: So,
you've got the whole...
00:40:26.29\00:40:27.66
Bob: Everything... phone,
total 100 percent communication,
00:40:27.69\00:40:31.73
I didn't have to impress her
with what I wore for clothing,
00:40:31.76\00:40:34.16
what kind of car I drove,
what I did for entertainment.
00:40:34.20\00:40:36.46
Shelley: But you had
your wedding planned...
00:40:36.50\00:40:38.33
did you... you
hadn't even met her...
00:40:38.37\00:40:39.83
didn't even know
what she looked like?
00:40:39.87\00:40:41.50
Bob: No, well,
by this time I did.
00:40:41.54\00:40:43.81
Let's put this
little caveat in there,
00:40:43.84\00:40:46.31
I could have sent
her a picture of JD...
00:40:46.37\00:40:48.81
how would she have known?
00:40:48.84\00:40:50.51
She could have sent
me a picture of you...
00:40:50.55\00:40:51.88
how would I have known?
00:40:51.91\00:40:53.25
So, you really...
don't put so much store
00:40:53.28\00:40:54.95
in the "picture thing"
00:40:54.98\00:40:56.32
but that's
something our mind focuses on
00:40:56.35\00:40:57.95
and you know, it was nice,
00:40:58.02\00:40:59.35
I wanted to see
what she looked like
00:40:59.39\00:41:00.72
and she wanted to
see what I looked like,
00:41:00.76\00:41:02.86
but don't base your
relationship on that...
00:41:02.89\00:41:05.33
you know, looks can
be gone just that fast...
00:41:05.36\00:41:07.73
if we have a little accident...
disease... whatever...
00:41:07.76\00:41:09.66
if nothing else,
age is going to get you
00:41:09.70\00:41:12.67
so, don't worry about the looks,
00:41:12.70\00:41:14.40
worry about the spiritual.
00:41:14.44\00:41:16.30
JD Quinn: Amen. Shelley: Amen.
00:41:16.34\00:41:17.67
And she was very...
00:41:17.71\00:41:19.04
Alice has got a very
powerful testimony of her own
00:41:19.07\00:41:21.01
and unfortunately,
many times, I overshadow...
00:41:21.04\00:41:23.24
she shares when
she gets a chance
00:41:23.31\00:41:25.48
but most of the
time, I'm like this and...
00:41:25.51\00:41:27.75
she doesn't get
that much of a chance.
00:41:27.78\00:41:29.78
So, anyway...
00:41:29.82\00:41:31.22
JD Quinn: You got married,
this was when... say... '99...
00:41:31.25\00:41:33.32
Bob: This was '99...
yes... and I told her,
00:41:33.36\00:41:35.92
I said, "Now, when we get... "
00:41:35.96\00:41:38.06
we made the
decision, we met in Charlotte,
00:41:38.09\00:41:39.69
we said, "Yes,
we're getting married"
00:41:39.73\00:41:41.06
we were going to get married
something like Christmas...
00:41:41.10\00:41:42.96
Thanksgiving... New Year's...
00:41:43.00\00:41:44.37
4th of July... something like...
00:41:44.40\00:41:45.73
I said, "With the
way I scrambled my brain,
00:41:45.77\00:41:47.80
I'm not going to
remember our first anniversary
00:41:47.84\00:41:49.87
and don't want you to kill
me on our first anniversary... "
00:41:49.90\00:41:51.54
we got married three
days after my birthday.
00:41:51.57\00:41:54.14
Shelley: All right, how
many years had you been married
00:41:54.18\00:41:56.71
when you came to 3ABN
and what brought you to 3ABN?
00:41:56.75\00:41:59.28
Well, let's see...
when we came to 3ABN
00:41:59.31\00:42:01.82
we would have been married...
it would have been 19 this year
00:42:01.88\00:42:04.72
so it would have
been what? 15 then...
00:42:04.75\00:42:06.09
Shelley: Okay.
00:42:06.12\00:42:07.46
Bob: We would have been
married 15 years at that time.
00:42:07.49\00:42:08.82
We had colporteured... Alice...
00:42:08.86\00:42:11.99
Shelley: Now, for those who
don't know what a colporteur is,
00:42:12.03\00:42:15.30
that's a Literature Evangelist,
people go door to door
00:42:15.33\00:42:19.07
and sell... and give
away Christian literature.
00:42:19.10\00:42:22.10
Yes, Alice knew
that I was on fire
00:42:22.14\00:42:25.77
and she moved from
all of her family...
00:42:25.81\00:42:27.98
all but one of her daughters,
00:42:28.04\00:42:29.38
her two daughters
from a previous marriage...
00:42:29.41\00:42:30.75
all lived in the Charlotte area
00:42:30.78\00:42:32.35
less than an hour
apart from each other.
00:42:32.38\00:42:33.82
When she married me,
00:42:33.85\00:42:35.95
one of my conditions on
this dating service was,
00:42:35.98\00:42:38.12
"I'm not leaving Valentine,
Nebraska, this is it... "
00:42:38.15\00:42:40.12
my dad was there,
00:42:40.16\00:42:41.49
my granddad... his
dad was there before that,
00:42:41.52\00:42:43.32
there was a 100-year
tradition in that family
00:42:43.36\00:42:44.93
with the Eads' name and I
was just going to stay there.
00:42:44.96\00:42:47.73
That was... thinking up
here... not listening to God.
00:42:47.76\00:42:50.47
Alice knew I was on fire...
00:42:50.53\00:42:52.10
I got to get this guy
out of this little town
00:42:52.13\00:42:53.74
and get him out
where he can work for God.
00:42:53.77\00:42:55.14
JD Quinn: Amen.
00:42:55.17\00:42:56.50
So, we were going to go
to the Black Hills Institute
00:42:56.54\00:42:59.14
and go to their long program
00:42:59.17\00:43:00.71
which gives you
Literature Evangelism
00:43:00.74\00:43:02.78
Lay Pastor, Bible Worker,
00:43:02.84\00:43:06.01
multiple
possibilities of what you can do
00:43:06.05\00:43:08.78
and that was our goal.
00:43:08.82\00:43:10.15
We actually went
there... enrolled...
00:43:10.19\00:43:12.19
we never went there...
00:43:12.22\00:43:13.62
we had an opportunity...
00:43:13.66\00:43:14.99
when God brought
Alice 2 into my life
00:43:15.02\00:43:16.93
that brought my son back
into my life after 24 years.
00:43:16.96\00:43:19.39
Shelley: Praise God.
00:43:19.43\00:43:20.76
They lived about four
hours from each other,
00:43:20.80\00:43:22.13
she's in
Charlotte, North Carolina,
00:43:22.16\00:43:23.60
He was near
Charleston, South Carolina.
00:43:23.63\00:43:24.97
Shelley: Praise God.
00:43:25.00\00:43:26.33
And I had already
started making efforts
00:43:26.37\00:43:27.94
to see if I could
contact my ex-wife
00:43:27.97\00:43:29.60
and find my son which I had,
00:43:29.64\00:43:30.97
actually, the Pastor that...
that ordained me as an Elder
00:43:31.01\00:43:35.94
helped us to get me
together with my son
00:43:35.98\00:43:39.38
and so, I went to Charlotte,
I met her, we did all of that,
00:43:39.41\00:43:43.65
there was a house
being purchased...
00:43:43.69\00:43:45.45
another one being sold...
00:43:45.49\00:43:46.82
I mean, sometimes
it's... it gets to be scrambled.
00:43:46.86\00:43:48.56
Kind of fast forward here
00:43:48.59\00:43:50.26
because we're getting
down toward the end here,
00:43:50.29\00:43:53.29
how did you get to 3ABN?
00:43:53.33\00:43:55.90
In the last couple
of years of our tenure
00:43:55.93\00:43:59.43
as Literature
Evangelists/ Colporteurs,
00:43:59.50\00:44:02.94
I still enjoy the older
term better... "Colporteur"
00:44:02.97\00:44:06.84
new management had
come in to the Organization.
00:44:06.88\00:44:11.31
Now, they had looked
back at our record of...
00:44:11.35\00:44:15.72
Shelley: Service?
00:44:15.75\00:44:17.79
Bob: No, the financial aspects
of it... of our earnings...
00:44:17.85\00:44:20.59
of our earnings
00:44:20.62\00:44:21.96
and the new guy
that had come in...
00:44:21.99\00:44:23.56
the Publishing Director
said, "You know Bob... "
00:44:23.63\00:44:25.19
he said, "You're
just not doing it,
00:44:25.23\00:44:27.33
you need to get a job so
you can support your wife. "
00:44:27.36\00:44:29.43
Well, at the
time, we were debt free.
00:44:29.46\00:44:32.07
I think this was God working,
00:44:32.10\00:44:34.64
so, we were
released from service,
00:44:34.67\00:44:36.71
they said, "You know, we just...
00:44:36.74\00:44:38.67
we think you should get
work and support your family. "
00:44:38.74\00:44:41.54
So, we were like, "Oh Lord,
what are we going to do now?
00:44:41.61\00:44:44.45
We've got a month's rent
and utilities in the bank
00:44:44.51\00:44:46.31
and then that's
it... we're on the street.
00:44:46.35\00:44:48.08
Well, God stepped in,
00:44:48.15\00:44:49.48
we still haven't seen
3ABN involved in this yet,
00:44:49.52\00:44:52.32
but that's... it's coming,
00:44:52.35\00:44:53.69
so, we couldn't
get work anywhere...
00:44:53.72\00:44:55.76
this was late October,
00:44:55.79\00:44:57.13
people were hiring for
Christmas... part-time at least,
00:44:57.16\00:44:59.89
I couldn't get hired
as a Greeter at Walmart
00:44:59.93\00:45:02.56
or a Wrangler...
Buggy Wrangler...
00:45:02.60\00:45:04.60
we could not get work anywhere,
00:45:04.63\00:45:06.77
we went to a local college...
00:45:06.80\00:45:08.87
Community College...
they were giving a Program
00:45:08.90\00:45:11.14
on how to do a
resume... because we had no clue
00:45:11.17\00:45:13.41
in that process, we found out
00:45:13.44\00:45:15.24
that the State paid
for a Diploma, Certificate
00:45:15.28\00:45:18.45
or the higher one...
00:45:18.48\00:45:20.32
JD Quinn: Diploma...
00:45:20.35\00:45:22.12
Bob: No, higher than
the Diploma... Degree
00:45:22.15\00:45:23.72
and they would pay all expenses,
00:45:23.75\00:45:25.45
we ended up as college students
00:45:25.49\00:45:27.09
because that's all
where we could make a living.
00:45:27.16\00:45:28.49
We were going to get
paid to go to school,
00:45:28.52\00:45:30.59
we were eligible
for Pell Grant money
00:45:30.63\00:45:32.96
which was $5,500 a piece
00:45:32.99\00:45:34.76
so there was 11,000 dollars
that we could live on for a year
00:45:34.80\00:45:36.87
while we were going to school,
00:45:36.93\00:45:38.27
we assumed at
the end of the year,
00:45:38.30\00:45:39.63
we were going to get work,
00:45:39.67\00:45:41.00
so, as an upshot, my dad died,
there was a small inheritance
00:45:41.04\00:45:46.41
and we came here
to look at a home
00:45:46.44\00:45:48.31
that Alice had been in contact
with somebody on Facebook
00:45:48.34\00:45:51.58
that was a church
member in Thompsonville.
00:45:51.61\00:45:53.45
Shelley: Why did you come here?
00:45:53.48\00:45:54.82
I came here
because I wanted to do...
00:45:54.85\00:45:57.59
I wanted to be involved
in this ministry from 3ABN...
00:45:57.62\00:46:00.16
it's my life...
00:46:00.22\00:46:01.56
if it hadn't been for
3ABN, I wouldn't be a Christian,
00:46:01.59\00:46:04.13
I honestly believe
I would have been lost
00:46:04.16\00:46:06.83
had it not been
for 3ABN Programming
00:46:06.86\00:46:09.16
in conjunction
with Amazing Facts
00:46:09.20\00:46:11.43
I...
00:46:11.50\00:46:12.83
Shelley: So, this was
the desire of your heart
00:46:12.87\00:46:14.54
and you saw...
God opened the door
00:46:14.57\00:46:17.24
and when you came down
here, your intent was...
00:46:17.27\00:46:22.14
both of you were
going to volunteer.
00:46:22.18\00:46:23.98
Yes, I had contacted
previously and found out
00:46:24.01\00:46:25.75
that there were no
paid positions available...
00:46:25.78\00:46:27.12
so we said...
00:46:27.15\00:46:28.48
and they said, "But
we're accepting applications
00:46:28.52\00:46:30.82
for volunteers, if you
want to come and do that"
00:46:30.85\00:46:33.12
so, they had all the
paperwork ready... waiting...
00:46:33.15\00:46:35.29
we came here on a Monday,
we got here on the weekend
00:46:35.32\00:46:37.29
came in on a Monday... started
filling out the paperwork,
00:46:37.33\00:46:39.39
then we went through the
interview process with Molly,
00:46:39.43\00:46:41.46
told her the things I could do,
00:46:41.50\00:46:43.73
she says, "Fine,
you'll work with...
00:46:43.77\00:46:45.33
train you on
camera... it's no problem,
00:46:45.37\00:46:46.74
Alice, what do you do?"
00:46:46.77\00:46:48.10
She started listing off
and she just looked at Alice
00:46:48.14\00:46:50.01
and said,
"Alice, you want a job?"
00:46:50.04\00:46:51.37
Well, we were told there were
no paid positions, we didn't...
00:46:51.41\00:46:53.94
"Alice, do you want a job?"
00:46:53.98\00:46:55.51
And she said, "Yeah,
I guess, doing what?"
00:46:55.54\00:46:57.98
She took her back to Tim Lass...
00:46:58.01\00:46:59.35
he took about an hour
with her and came out and said,
00:46:59.38\00:47:01.78
"Fine, yeah, she
works in Programming"
00:47:01.82\00:47:04.39
He said, "She'll do
fine" so, that was it.
00:47:04.42\00:47:06.65
And I know that you're very
involved with Prison Ministry...
00:47:06.69\00:47:09.06
Bob: Yes.
00:47:09.09\00:47:10.43
JD Quinn: since
you've been here...
00:47:10.46\00:47:11.79
You know, that has
become a love of your heart.
00:47:11.83\00:47:13.16
Bob: Amen.
00:47:13.19\00:47:14.53
And what all are
you involved with?
00:47:14.56\00:47:16.63
Well, we do three
different prisons,
00:47:16.67\00:47:19.23
there's the Federal
Prison in Marion, Illinois
00:47:19.27\00:47:21.47
we go there
every Sabbath morning,
00:47:21.50\00:47:22.84
there's a State Penitentiary
00:47:22.87\00:47:25.17
near Ina which is
about 20 miles from here
00:47:25.21\00:47:28.68
we go there Thursday nights
00:47:28.71\00:47:30.71
and then on the 2nd and
4th Sabbath of the month,
00:47:30.75\00:47:33.68
we go to another
State Penitentiary
00:47:33.72\00:47:36.02
in a small community
of Pinckneyville in...
00:47:36.05\00:47:39.35
also in southern Illinois...
00:47:39.39\00:47:40.89
and we do... right now we
go through the Quarterlies,
00:47:40.92\00:47:44.19
we make sure all of the inmates
that attend our programming,
00:47:44.23\00:47:46.73
we give them a Quarterly
00:47:46.76\00:47:48.10
so they can keep up
with what we're doing,
00:47:48.13\00:47:49.46
what we're studying...
00:47:49.50\00:47:50.83
in the Federal Prison
they're allowed twice a month...
00:47:50.87\00:47:52.83
they actually teach the lesson
00:47:52.87\00:47:54.34
different ones will
accept the responsibility
00:47:54.37\00:47:56.37
and they will teach the lesson.
00:47:56.40\00:47:57.74
JD Quinn: Amen.
00:47:57.77\00:47:59.11
Sometimes it's a sermon,
00:47:59.14\00:48:00.48
right now we're going
through a video production
00:48:00.51\00:48:01.84
of studies on the
book of Revelation...
00:48:01.88\00:48:04.15
JD Quinn: So
all this... all this
00:48:04.21\00:48:06.55
as you've learned since 1997...
00:48:06.58\00:48:08.78
now you're actually
getting to put it into action
00:48:08.82\00:48:12.82
all this time through...
learning through colporteurism,
00:48:12.85\00:48:16.42
Literature Evangelist...
00:48:16.46\00:48:18.39
you were out there representing
the Lord Jesus Christ...
00:48:18.43\00:48:22.13
Bob: Yes.
00:48:22.16\00:48:23.50
JD Quinn: So,
you're still working
00:48:23.53\00:48:24.90
and you're working harder
than you probably ever worked.
00:48:24.93\00:48:26.97
Bob: Yes.
00:48:27.00\00:48:28.34
JD Quinn: more diligently
and with more passion.
00:48:28.37\00:48:30.31
Shelley: And you're
actually an employee of 3ABN...
00:48:30.34\00:48:31.97
Bob: I am.
00:48:32.01\00:48:33.34
Shelley: You volunteered
what... the first two years?
00:48:33.38\00:48:34.94
Bob: Yes... the
second year here,
00:48:34.98\00:48:36.78
I fell off a
little ladder at home,
00:48:36.81\00:48:38.48
it wasn't at work... broke a hip
00:48:38.51\00:48:40.12
by the time all that
mess was over with...
00:48:40.15\00:48:41.88
it took about
another year and a half...
00:48:41.95\00:48:43.65
during which time I
worked part-time off and on
00:48:43.69\00:48:45.92
when I could
00:48:45.95\00:48:47.29
and then, financially...
00:48:47.32\00:48:48.76
Alice, by this time, was
not able to work full time
00:48:48.79\00:48:50.93
so, I approached 3ABN
00:48:50.99\00:48:52.63
and they were kind
enough to hire me on
00:48:52.66\00:48:54.63
as a part-time employee...
so now I am an employee.
00:48:54.66\00:48:57.17
Shelley: Amen.
00:48:57.20\00:48:58.53
Bob: I liked it much
better as a volunteer
00:48:58.57\00:49:01.20
because then, I could
volunteer to do anything
00:49:01.24\00:49:03.81
sometimes now I'm a little
bit restricted in what I can do
00:49:03.84\00:49:05.94
and I... just...
00:49:05.97\00:49:07.31
I want to help
anybody in any way that I can.
00:49:07.34\00:49:09.24
It doesn't matter the
Department or what this...
00:49:09.28\00:49:11.25
what the task is...
00:49:11.28\00:49:12.61
Shelley: You know the thing
I've always enjoyed about you
00:49:12.65\00:49:15.12
is... you know,
we say to each other,
00:49:15.15\00:49:17.59
at Church... "Happy
Sabbath, happy Sabbath"
00:49:17.62\00:49:19.99
this one comes in
and "Happy Tuesday"
00:49:20.02\00:49:22.99
"Happy Thursday"
00:49:23.02\00:49:24.36
whatever...
you're a very happy man
00:49:24.39\00:49:26.80
because the Lord
has changed your life,
00:49:26.83\00:49:29.16
totally and completely, you
are a new creation in Christ
00:49:29.20\00:49:32.93
but this is something that
00:49:32.97\00:49:34.90
you bring a lot of
joy to our Department...
00:49:34.94\00:49:39.94
I mean, our ministry here...
00:49:39.97\00:49:41.81
Bob: Praise God.
00:49:41.84\00:49:43.18
Shelley: But you're
still involved in...
00:49:43.21\00:49:45.05
you do a lot of airport runs
00:49:45.11\00:49:46.85
and he's constantly
giving out literature
00:49:46.88\00:49:50.12
wherever you are.
00:49:50.45\00:49:51.79
Bob: Yes, absolutely.
00:49:51.82\00:49:53.15
People, let me
tell you something,
00:49:53.19\00:49:54.52
Danny's latest book,
"Spiritual Vigilantes"
00:49:54.56\00:49:57.16
is so easy to give away,
00:49:57.19\00:49:58.56
carry them with you,
ladies, you have a pocketbook...
00:49:58.59\00:50:00.83
a purse... carry your purse...
00:50:00.86\00:50:02.20
I carry them in every
van that I drive for 3ABN
00:50:02.23\00:50:04.60
in my personal vehicles
00:50:04.63\00:50:05.97
and all you have to do is...
you don't have to know anybody,
00:50:06.00\00:50:08.70
it's, "Did you get
your free book yet?"
00:50:08.74\00:50:11.11
That's it... little
smile on your face...
00:50:11.14\00:50:12.97
"Did you get
your free book yet?"
00:50:13.01\00:50:14.34
"Oh no, what free book?"
00:50:14.38\00:50:15.71
"Well, here, you got one now. "
00:50:15.74\00:50:17.08
99.9 percent of the time,
people will take that book
00:50:17.11\00:50:19.31
and I take the "Share Cards"
00:50:19.35\00:50:20.88
and put that inside the
front cover so they have...
00:50:20.92\00:50:22.68
Shelley: What is a Share Card?
00:50:22.72\00:50:24.05
That is a card that
tells you how to contact 3ABN
00:50:24.09\00:50:26.29
and all of the programming
that is available through 3ABN.
00:50:26.32\00:50:29.29
Shelley: All the ways to get it.
00:50:29.32\00:50:30.83
Bob: All the
ways to get it, yes.
00:50:30.86\00:50:32.29
Whether it is on...
00:50:32.33\00:50:34.13
it's not just 3ABN
broadcast over the television
00:50:34.20\00:50:38.43
but we also have 3ABN YouTube,
00:50:38.47\00:50:40.64
we're on all
kinds of social media.
00:50:40.67\00:50:43.77
Bob: Yes...
00:50:43.81\00:50:45.14
Shelley: So that's
what those Share Cards...
00:50:45.17\00:50:47.11
and we want to
encourage each one of you...
00:50:47.14\00:50:49.28
you can get those
"Share Cards" for free,
00:50:49.31\00:50:51.31
just call the Call Center,
00:50:51.35\00:50:53.11
ask them to send
you... 50 or a 100
00:50:53.15\00:50:55.68
and when you go out, you
can give these to somebody
00:50:55.72\00:50:58.95
because they may not
have 3ABN on television,
00:50:58.99\00:51:01.52
but most
everybody's got a Smartphone
00:51:01.56\00:51:04.26
and they can download the
3ABN App on the Smartphone
00:51:04.29\00:51:08.46
or they can get on to YouTube
00:51:08.50\00:51:10.73
so, it's a great way to do that.
00:51:10.77\00:51:12.93
There's no... there's
no cost for the books,
00:51:12.97\00:51:14.90
if you're out there shipping...
I think it's $18.50 for 100,
00:51:14.94\00:51:19.17
there are a 100 books in a box,
00:51:19.21\00:51:20.64
I'm currently
on... I've lost track...
00:51:20.68\00:51:22.58
it's either the
fourth or fifth box
00:51:22.61\00:51:24.28
that I've given out personally
00:51:24.31\00:51:26.28
since Danny produced the book,
00:51:26.31\00:51:28.02
it's so easy... and you can
reach so many people that way.
00:51:28.05\00:51:31.75
Don't hesitate...
you don't have to preach,
00:51:31.79\00:51:33.99
you don't have to be
anything special in the church,
00:51:34.02\00:51:36.32
all you have to
do... carry the books
00:51:36.36\00:51:38.06
and offer them to
somebody, God will see to it...
00:51:38.09\00:51:40.26
somebody will take that book.
00:51:40.30\00:51:41.63
Shelley: Amen... and we're...
00:51:41.66\00:51:43.00
we're going to have
to go here to Newsbreak
00:51:43.03\00:51:44.67
in just a second
00:51:44.70\00:51:46.03
but that... the book
is, "Spiritual Vigilantes"
00:51:46.07\00:51:48.90
once again, you can
call the Call Center
00:51:48.94\00:51:51.34
and... 618-627-4651
00:51:51.37\00:51:55.98
and they can
ship you those books,
00:51:56.01\00:51:58.35
costs... for shipping is
$18 and a half cents, I think,
00:51:58.38\00:52:03.39
$18.50 for a hundred
00:52:03.45\00:52:06.19
so... but you
may not want a 100,
00:52:06.22\00:52:08.42
if you just want to get
10 or 20 or 50... you can.
00:52:08.46\00:52:11.83
So, Bob, we're going to
come back in just a moment
00:52:11.86\00:52:15.06
because we got to get a
concluding thought from you
00:52:15.10\00:52:18.83
but I'm just so excited
what God has done in your life
00:52:18.87\00:52:22.54
and I've never heard
your entire testimony before
00:52:22.57\00:52:25.21
so, this is a lot of fun
00:52:25.24\00:52:27.11
but we want to
encourage you to stay tuned...
00:52:27.14\00:52:31.11
we're got to go to Newsbreak
00:52:31.15\00:52:32.48
but we'll be
back in just a moment
00:52:32.51\00:52:33.85
for our closing thought.
00:52:33.88\00:52:35.22