I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Removing pain
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Lord, let my words
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Heal a heart that hurts
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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Hello, I'm Shelley Quinn,
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and we welcome you
once again to 3ABN Today,
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the mending
broken people network.
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And, oh, I'm so excited
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what we're going
to talk about today
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because we are getting
ready to launch a new program,
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it is Raw
Questions Relevant Answers,
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and this is to help
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mend the broken
hearts of young people.
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And I have to tell
you that it doesn't matter
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what age you are, you
will enjoy this program.
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I'm very blessed to introduce
our three guests today,
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who are the co-hosts
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for Raw
Questions Relevant Answers.
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And first, we have Dee Casper.
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Dee, you're no
stranger to our audience,
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you've been on
a number of times.
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That's right, yeah.
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You are currently
working as a brand evangelist
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for ARTV.
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Yes, that's correct.
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Well, we're excited about that,
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and we're going
to let you tell us
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what that is in just a moment.
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But then, next to Dee,
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we have the
beautiful Michelle Doucoumes.
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And Michelle, believe it
or not is a college professor.
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You are a professor at
SAU and you teach business.
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I do, yeah.
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So you have an MBA,
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but you also
teach religion classes.
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Correct. Okay.
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Well, we're glad
to have you here.
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And then we have none
other than Mark Paden,
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who is a freelance filmmaker.
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And I'm going to
say something, Mark.
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Sure.
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I know you're the
youngest in the group.
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We have three
young single adults.
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And I am so
impressed with their wisdom.
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I've had the blessing,
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the privilege of
producing this program.
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So as we are recording,
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and I'm listening
to these young people,
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they sound like
they have knowledge
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way beyond their years.
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And that brings me to
our scripture for today,
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James 3:17 says,
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"The wisdom that is from above
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is first pure, then peaceable,
gentle, willing to yield,
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full of mercy and good fruits,
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without
partiality and hypocrisy."
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And these young
adults have uncommon wisdom,
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it is wisdom from above.
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And I have to tell you
that as I've listened to you,
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I think, "Oh, I
wished I had known
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what you know
when I was your age."
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Seriously. Praise God.
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Yeah. And it's beautiful.
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So before we
launch into the program,
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and I'm actually going to let
you all do some talking here.
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We first love to
start with music,
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and the person who
will sing for us today
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is one of my favorites,
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she has a beautiful spirit,
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she ministers,
she's a music minister.
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And I'm speaking
of Sandra Entermann.
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She is from Down Under.
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And Sandra is a
person that loves God,
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she worships God when she sings,
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and she just brings you
into the presence of the Lord.
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So Sandra is going to
sing for us now "Who am I."
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Who am I that the
Lord of all the earth
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Would care to know my name
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Would care to feel my hurt
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Who am I that the
bright and morning star
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Would choose to light the way
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For my ever wandering heart
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Not because of who I am
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But because of what You've done
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Not because of what I've done
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But because of who You are
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I am a flower quickly fading
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Here today and gone tomorrow
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A wave tossed in the ocean
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A vapor in the wind
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Still You hear
me when I'm calling
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Lord, You catch
me when I'm falling
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And You've told me who I am
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I am Yours
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Who Am I that the
eyes that see my sin
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Would look on me with love
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And watch me rise again
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Who Am I that the
voice that calmed the sea
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Would call out through the rain
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And calm the storm in me
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Not because of who I am
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But because of what You've done
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Not because of what I've done
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But because of who You are
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I am a flower quickly fading
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Here today and gone tomorrow
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A wave tossed in the ocean
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A vapor in the wind
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Still You hear
me when I'm calling
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Lord, You catch
me when I'm falling
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And You've told me who I am
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I am Yours
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Not because of who I am
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But because of what You've done
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Not because of what I've done
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But because of who You are
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I am a flower quickly fading
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Here today and gone tomorrow
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A wave tossed in the ocean
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A vapor in the wind
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Still You hear
me when I'm calling
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Lord, You catch
me when I'm falling
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And You've told me who I am
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I am Yours
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I am Yours
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I am Yours
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Whom shall I
fear Whom shall I fear
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'Cause I am Yours
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Oh, we want to
thank you, Sandra,
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and that was our
friend Christy Sidebick
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on the piano accompanying her.
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If you're just joining us today,
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we are going to talk about
Raw Questions Relevant Answers.
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Let me introduce
you, this is a new program
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that we're launching in July,
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and we're very excited about it.
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Let me introduce you once
again to the three co-hosts,
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and we had Dee Caspar,
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Michelle
Doucoumes, and Mark Paden.
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What I'd like to do first
is let's just get a little bit,
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the Reader's Digest
version of your background.
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Dee, did you grow up in church?
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No. Okay.
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So I grew up about a
half hour from here actually
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and had never heard of
a Seventh-day Adventist,
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had never heard of 3ABN,
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and in that
finding it on television,
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and so that was the fall of 2006
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that I first started to watch,
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and I think it
was Doug Batchelor's
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Most Amazing
Prophecies series that he did.
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And I remember thinking,
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"I've never heard that before,
but that's what the text says.
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And never heard that before
but that's what the text says."
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That kind of began a process.
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I eventually came, visited here,
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and then over a
series of events,
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I was baptized in 2010
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at the ARISE
Cornerstone Program,
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December of 2010.
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And I've been in
ministry ever since,
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it's been about
seven years if I'm right.
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Glory to God, that is exciting.
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I didn't know that about you.
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So you are currently serving as
the brand evangelist for ARTV.
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What does a
brand evangelists do?
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So ARTV is the
Adventists Reviews
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on demand media
platform that we've designed.
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We believe that digital media
is the new publishing work.
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So we're
continuing in publishing,
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but we're also
branching into digital media
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that's on demand
short and sharable.
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So my job, kind
of the way the role
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that I play on our team
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is to kind of increase
awareness about what we do,
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recruiting talents to kind
of help us create the content
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that we're doing,
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overseeing our
social media stuff,
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and whenever I travel
and speak doing evangelism,
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I just increase
awareness about what it is,
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how people can get involved,
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and I had to
share with our friends.
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So that's kind of
my responsibility.
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Okay, you know, we're
so glad that you're here,
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and we're so glad
that you are co-hosting
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Raw Questions Relevant Answers.
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And the next guest
today is Michelle Doucoumes,
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and she's a
college professor at SAU,
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Southern Adventist University.
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And when I first
met you, I thought,
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"No way you
could be a professor."
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You look like
one of the students.
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Thank you, I
appreciate that. I'll take it.
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Tell us a little did
you grow up in the church
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or what is your background?
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Well, I did grow
up in the church.
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In fact, my dad was
a pastor in the church,
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so I grew up
with a lot of church.
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Okay.
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But it wasn't maybe
till I was in college myself,
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studying business at
Southern Adventist University
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that God started
to work in my life.
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And there were
some different people
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and things that
were a part of that,
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the GYC movement
was a part of that,
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doing literature
evangelism in a summer
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really changed my
perspectives on life.
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And through a
number of these things,
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God just impressed upon me
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a desire to not
just do business as usual
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but to be able to do something
for the Lord with this.
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So things changed,
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I ended up going after
school and doing accounting,
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but then going to
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the Amazing Facts
Center for evangelism,
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doing Bible work,
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I was the business manager
for evangelism school called
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Souls West in Arizona.
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I did my MBA, and
then we started a program
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at Southern Adventist University
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in partnership
with It Is Written,
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called SALT, Soul-winning
And Leadership Training.
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So I did that for several years
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and still teach
for that program.
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And I was at the Wildwood
College of Health Evangelism
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as their director
for several years.
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And then just
recently came back to,
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where it started,
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at Southern Adventist University
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to teach business there.
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So much experience in just
such a short little lifespan.
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Oh, my, I will tell
you one thing, Shelley,
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when you do things for the Lord,
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it doesn't always
seem to make sense,
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it's never what you expect,
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but it's been a
really rewarding experience
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and it's still
teaching me many things.
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And so you have a
lot of interaction
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there with young people,
with college age students.
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And in this
program that we're doing,
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Raw Questions Relevant Answers,
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I would say our
target market is 15-30,
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it seems like that's where
the questions are coming from.
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But the next
co-host is Mark Paden.
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And, Mark, you are
a freelance filmmaker.
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Tell us a little of
your growing up here.
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Sure.
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When did God really become...
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When did it become a
personal relationship?
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Sure. So I grew
up in the church.
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Good godly parents,
everything like that.
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But then in my early teen years,
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I kind of got a
whiff of the world
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and decided that I
wanted to have a little bit more
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than I wanted God.
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And so I took, it
might say sabbatical
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from
Christianity for a little bit,
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at least from God and
really being a part of Him.
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And then I got
involved with a bunch of stuff,
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and I ended up going to
school up in Michigan called
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Great Lakes Adventist Academy.
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And when I went up there,
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you know, God just started
to really work on my heart.
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I was separated from
some of the influences
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that I was at in
my home in Texas.
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And I just started...
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You come from the
Austin area, right?
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That's party city,
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anybody from Texas knows
that Austin is party city.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Oh, yeah, and
honestly I love Texas.
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It's a great place but...
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If I could high-five you,
darling, from here I would.
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A high-five, yeah, you know.
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But yeah, it was a
really good experience for me
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to go up there to that school
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because it separated
me from some of the things
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that I was doing
and got me in a place
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where I could
start to think about God.
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And I remember God keeping
coming back to me saying,
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"Mark, I want you to come to Me,
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I want you come to Me."
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And finally, I
realized, you know what,
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I need to give my life to God.
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And so I just
decided, "You know what, Lord,
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I'm going to give
you my life 100%."
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And I knew that
there'd be some things
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that I needed to
give up in the process.
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And God just gave me
so much grace to do that,
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and it was incredible to me
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because once I
made that decision,
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you know what,
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I'm going to
surrender these things,
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I know God doesn't want
me to do and follow God.
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It was incredible just to
see the way that God put me
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into leadership positions
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and gave me so many
opportunities to do the things
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that I'd always wanted to do.
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You know, I'd grown up
loving cameras and technology,
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and as soon as I...
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So were you a
movie buff for a while?
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I was, big time.
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And it was
actually kind of funny
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because I was
watching a lot of things
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that, you know,
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Christians really
shouldn't be watching.
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And it was incredible
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because that was
one of the things
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that I knew I
needed to give to God.
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And when I decided to
do that, it was incredible
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because then God
started giving me
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so many opportunities to film.
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Like right after that,
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I had an
opportunity with the school
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actually to film a
couple different videos
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using a $20,000 camera.
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They bought like $3,000 computer
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so that I could
work on that, right?
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And it was just incredible
00:16:15.74\00:16:17.11
how it just
started going from there.
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Then I started,
after I graduated,
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you know, all the way along,
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I just wanted to
get into filmmaking,
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I wanted to do
freelance videography,
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and my thing was I
wanted to learn on my own,
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I wanted to learn
from sources online
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and just by
doing, and it was crazy
00:16:36.02\00:16:37.89
because that's how
God started to lead.
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He brought me from one ministry
to another, and I just...
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He taught me so much
about not only filmmaking
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but about how to do it for Him.
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And how to use this
medium of communication
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to communicate the gospel.
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And yeah, at this point,
00:16:55.84\00:16:58.65
it's so crazy that
God really does give us
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the desires of
our hearts, I mean,
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I love
traveling, I love cameras,
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I love filmmaking, I
love telling stories,
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and that's what I do now.
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And He's obviously given
you a great gift for that.
00:17:08.96\00:17:11.69
Mark actually did the open
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and all of the
graphics for this program.
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We've never done this before.
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But this concept...
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we've been
earnestly seeking the Lord,
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we knew we needed
more programming for youth,
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when we've been earnestly
seeking the Lord, and I say,
00:17:29.01\00:17:31.25
"Lord, what kind of program?"
00:17:31.28\00:17:32.61
And I think I'd
have an idea here,
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and maybe identify a host there.
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And you know what happened?
00:17:36.92\00:17:38.29
God just brought Dee Casper
right into our office one day.
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Dee, tell us where the concept,
and explain a little more
00:17:42.32\00:17:47.60
because Raw
Questions Relevant Answers
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isn't a preaching program.
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Correct.
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It's not preaching,
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you're really
touching the heart issues,
00:17:56.24\00:17:58.61
the relevancy of scripture
in young people's lives.
00:17:58.64\00:18:04.65
So tell us how
that concept came about.
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I think I was speaking with
Molly probably about a year...
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over year ago,
and she had asked,
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we've been kind of partnered
00:18:13.72\00:18:15.06
with 3ABN on different
projects, and she said,
00:18:15.09\00:18:16.79
"We've tried to do programs
for young people in the past,
00:18:16.86\00:18:19.29
and we're looking to
try to either resurrect
00:18:19.33\00:18:20.93
one of these
programs or do something else,
00:18:20.96\00:18:23.67
so would you be
willing to help us with it?"
00:18:23.70\00:18:25.07
And through that dialogue,
00:18:25.10\00:18:26.94
I kind of gave a counteroffer
00:18:26.97\00:18:28.30
to one of the
program offers they've given,
00:18:28.34\00:18:30.44
based on something that
Mark and I had done a lot of.
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So I travel a lot, I've been to,
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like 22 of our
academies, 4 of colleges
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speaking and
investing in young people,
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that's mainly what I do
is invest in young people
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and youth conferences and stuff.
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And one of the
things that Mark and I found
00:18:42.28\00:18:43.62
was that sharing at
schools during Q&As,
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just we have no
idea what's coming,
00:18:45.72\00:18:47.56
we don't know what
they're going to ask,
00:18:47.59\00:18:49.16
but we came to find was
by preaching on hard issues
00:18:49.19\00:18:52.73
and then opening up
for them to ask questions,
00:18:52.76\00:18:55.46
the questions were very raw.
00:18:55.50\00:18:57.53
And these kids were
burying their hearts
00:18:57.57\00:18:59.77
and asking
stuff that many adults
00:18:59.80\00:19:01.80
wouldn't have the
courage to talk about,
00:19:01.84\00:19:03.84
let alone ask.
00:19:03.87\00:19:05.21
And to ask as vulnerably
as strongly as these kids did,
00:19:05.24\00:19:08.44
kind of burying their hearts,
00:19:08.48\00:19:09.81
we realized something
has to be done about this.
00:19:09.84\00:19:11.95
And so when I saw that
there was an opportunity
00:19:11.98\00:19:13.55
for a program, my thought was,
00:19:13.58\00:19:15.65
"Why not do a
Q&A format program,
00:19:15.68\00:19:18.25
where we give young
people an opportunity
00:19:18.29\00:19:19.72
to anonymously ask questions,
00:19:19.75\00:19:21.69
where they can be as
vulnerable as possible
00:19:21.72\00:19:23.49
and give them
Christ-centered answers."
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Mark and I found that by being
00:19:25.96\00:19:27.46
immensely Christ-centered
in our preaching,
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by being
vulnerable to the people
00:19:29.66\00:19:31.07
were preaching too,
00:19:31.10\00:19:32.43
and by dealing with hard
issues that cripple them,
00:19:32.47\00:19:34.67
it opens doors to reach
young people in ways that,
00:19:34.70\00:19:37.61
basically, better
than anything else can.
00:19:37.64\00:19:41.28
So we're not coming in as
if we have our act together,
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we're telling them
what they need to know.
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We're speaking from vulnerable
standpoints of young people
00:19:45.31\00:19:47.62
who have wrestled in life,
and we're honest about that.
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And this shows
them that we're safe,
00:19:50.52\00:19:52.22
and then they can
open up and share.
00:19:52.25\00:19:53.59
And so that's kind
of how that door opened.
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And so I sent some examples,
00:19:55.59\00:19:57.03
where Mark and I had done
00:19:57.06\00:19:58.39
some Q&As in a
school before, to say,
00:19:58.43\00:20:00.13
"Would you guys be okay
00:20:00.20\00:20:01.50
with doing a program like this?"
00:20:01.53\00:20:02.86
And that kind of
facilitated discussion,
00:20:02.90\00:20:04.93
and then my insistence
was I want Mark to be here,
00:20:04.97\00:20:07.60
I want Mark to
be one of the hosts,
00:20:07.64\00:20:09.67
and then we wanted to
ensure that we had diversity.
00:20:09.70\00:20:11.91
And someone that I knew would...
00:20:11.94\00:20:14.04
'cause I mean I don't have
00:20:14.08\00:20:15.64
all the answers
neither does Mark,
00:20:15.68\00:20:17.01
and we surely don't
have a lot of the answers
00:20:17.05\00:20:18.38
to issues that
females are contending with,
00:20:18.41\00:20:19.75
and we need to have diversity.
00:20:19.78\00:20:21.35
And the person
immediately came to my mind
00:20:21.38\00:20:23.65
was someone had a lot
of respect for in ministry,
00:20:23.69\00:20:25.29
and we rubbed
shoulders a ministry
00:20:25.32\00:20:27.12
in a lot of different
locations the last few years,
00:20:27.16\00:20:29.22
it was Michelle.
00:20:29.26\00:20:30.59
And I had seen her in
Q&A format discussions
00:20:30.63\00:20:33.29
whether be GYC
southeast or some other place
00:20:33.36\00:20:35.73
I can't remember what it was.
00:20:35.76\00:20:37.10
And I knew that she had a
lot of experience in ministry
00:20:37.13\00:20:39.10
and is someone
who's down to earth
00:20:39.13\00:20:40.47
and practical and
would be Christ-centered.
00:20:40.50\00:20:42.47
And so I asked her,
"Would you be able to come?"
00:20:42.50\00:20:44.14
And she said, "Yeah."
And the rest is history.
00:20:44.17\00:20:47.01
And it's been amazing
00:20:47.04\00:20:48.38
because as we've
been filming together,
00:20:48.41\00:20:50.18
though the three of us
haven't done this together,
00:20:50.21\00:20:51.75
Mark and I've done it a lot.
00:20:51.78\00:20:53.75
Though the three of us
together have not done it,
00:20:53.78\00:20:55.82
it just feels like home.
00:20:55.85\00:20:57.52
And it just feels like
a home family discussion,
00:20:57.55\00:21:00.29
where we can talk about issues.
00:21:00.36\00:21:01.69
And each of us have a story
00:21:01.72\00:21:03.06
that's different and is diverse.
00:21:03.09\00:21:04.56
Mark grew up in the
church, and left, and came back.
00:21:04.59\00:21:07.13
Michelle grew up as a
pastor's kid and stayed
00:21:07.20\00:21:09.10
but kind of found
a deeper experience
00:21:09.13\00:21:10.47
later in life
00:21:10.53\00:21:11.87
and has been blessed
by college ministries
00:21:11.90\00:21:15.14
and other things from
a different perspective.
00:21:15.17\00:21:17.21
And she's worked in
multiple environments,
00:21:17.27\00:21:19.11
whether it be
self-supporting environments
00:21:19.14\00:21:20.74
and within the church.
00:21:20.78\00:21:22.51
And Mark and I have both worked
in self-supporting environments
00:21:22.54\00:21:25.25
and been to other schools.
00:21:25.28\00:21:26.88
And I wasn't raised in
the church but came in.
00:21:26.92\00:21:29.05
So there's this broad approach
00:21:29.08\00:21:30.49
that we're taking
from different areas.
00:21:30.55\00:21:32.79
Mark can speak from
experience in some areas,
00:21:32.82\00:21:34.69
I speak more from
kind of a clinical side
00:21:34.72\00:21:36.99
of having to help
people work through those.
00:21:37.03\00:21:38.53
So that's kind of the background
00:21:38.56\00:21:40.20
of how the program came about
00:21:40.26\00:21:41.93
and why we're
passionate about it
00:21:41.96\00:21:43.30
because we all
see the same issues
00:21:43.33\00:21:44.67
that young people
contend with and want to help.
00:21:44.70\00:21:46.87
You know, one thing that I
was telling my husband, JD,
00:21:46.90\00:21:50.57
when I get to listen to these,
00:21:50.64\00:21:52.57
I'm sitting in the control room,
00:21:52.61\00:21:53.94
and when these
three young adults
00:21:54.01\00:21:56.14
get off the set
00:21:56.18\00:21:57.51
and they go back
into the green room
00:21:57.58\00:21:58.91
when they're
doing a quick change,
00:21:58.95\00:22:00.52
and I hear them
laughing together
00:22:00.55\00:22:02.48
and the joy
that's in your heart.
00:22:02.52\00:22:04.45
And then when
they get on the set,
00:22:04.49\00:22:06.96
something that I appreciate
about the tone of the program
00:22:06.99\00:22:12.03
is it's very relaxed,
it's not preachy, and I said,
00:22:12.06\00:22:16.30
we're hitting, I
mean, kids are saying,
00:22:16.33\00:22:20.20
"Why is this happening to me?
00:22:20.24\00:22:21.67
Where is God?" You
know, they're searching.
00:22:21.70\00:22:25.07
And a lot of times,
00:22:25.11\00:22:26.44
the questions
that you're answering,
00:22:26.47\00:22:28.31
we're not talking
about anything this program
00:22:28.34\00:22:30.31
doesn't have to have a
disclaimer in front of it,
00:22:30.35\00:22:34.08
you could lead a child
of any age listen to this.
00:22:34.12\00:22:37.05
But they are heart
cries, if you will,
00:22:37.09\00:22:43.02
that somehow and
I don't know why,
00:22:43.06\00:22:46.23
and maybe we'll discover that,
00:22:46.26\00:22:47.76
but sometimes
young people are afraid
00:22:47.76\00:22:50.33
to ask parents or the pastors
or other people in church,
00:22:50.40\00:22:55.50
they don't feel like
00:22:55.54\00:22:56.87
they can get that
vulnerable with them.
00:22:56.94\00:22:58.81
And they kind of hide,
00:22:58.84\00:23:00.68
we're really good at
camouflage, aren't we?
00:23:00.71\00:23:04.15
Oh, Shelley, I mean, I
remember being in that position.
00:23:04.18\00:23:07.92
Even as a young
person growing up
00:23:07.95\00:23:09.98
with a relationship
with Jesus and in church,
00:23:10.02\00:23:12.42
there are times that I went
00:23:12.45\00:23:13.79
through a lot of
this questioning,
00:23:13.86\00:23:15.52
and felt like,
"If I told someone,
00:23:15.56\00:23:17.73
either I would be looked down on
00:23:17.76\00:23:19.86
or just given a Bible verse
00:23:19.89\00:23:21.80
and told to just
go have more faith"
00:23:21.83\00:23:23.43
or something like that.
00:23:23.47\00:23:25.03
And so I think that
that's part of the burden
00:23:25.07\00:23:26.74
that we have is to say no.
00:23:26.80\00:23:29.00
Young people need to know
that other people struggle
00:23:29.04\00:23:31.04
with these questions too.
00:23:31.07\00:23:32.61
And that it's okay,
00:23:32.64\00:23:34.54
and that God
does have the answers.
00:23:34.58\00:23:36.81
And I think part of the reason
is also a little bit casual is,
00:23:36.85\00:23:40.18
I remember being asked to
do this program, and thinking,
00:23:40.22\00:23:43.45
"I don't know that I have
all these answers either."
00:23:43.49\00:23:45.89
I'm afraid it's going
to be like raw questions,
00:23:45.92\00:23:48.49
half-baked answers,
instead of relevant answers.
00:23:48.52\00:23:53.76
But we're just sharing genuinely
00:23:53.80\00:23:56.73
from what we've seen,
from what we know of God,
00:23:56.80\00:23:59.63
and that's all we have to share
00:23:59.67\00:24:01.30
and that's what
we're trying to do.
00:24:01.34\00:24:02.67
Yeah, now, how did you
get the questions, Mark?
00:24:02.70\00:24:05.34
Sure.
00:24:05.37\00:24:06.71
So basically, what
we did is we went online
00:24:06.78\00:24:09.68
and asked young
people to ask questions.
00:24:09.71\00:24:14.12
And a lot of
people have sent them in
00:24:14.15\00:24:16.35
and, you know, it's...
00:24:16.38\00:24:18.42
What's the Facebook account?
00:24:18.45\00:24:20.16
Raw Questions Relevant Answers.
00:24:20.19\00:24:22.19
or R-Q...
00:24:22.22\00:24:23.56
R-Q-R-A-3-A-B-N is
kind of the handles.
00:24:23.63\00:24:25.89
So if you just
type R-Q-R-A-3-A-B-N
00:24:25.93\00:24:28.06
in the Facebook search
bar, it will take you there.
00:24:28.10\00:24:29.83
Okay, okay.
00:24:29.86\00:24:31.20
You know, the other thing too
00:24:31.23\00:24:32.57
that I just
wanted to piggyback on
00:24:32.60\00:24:33.94
what you all are saying,
00:24:34.00\00:24:35.34
you know, the
reason that I think
00:24:35.37\00:24:37.67
that we're able to grapple
with some of these questions
00:24:37.71\00:24:40.44
is that we've
spent a lot of pain
00:24:40.48\00:24:42.68
and agony wrestling with them
00:24:42.71\00:24:44.25
in our own
lives and experiences.
00:24:44.28\00:24:46.08
And I think that, I
mean, I know for me,
00:24:46.11\00:24:48.15
and I think I can
say for them too that,
00:24:48.18\00:24:50.05
you know, we've
spent the nights agonizing
00:24:50.09\00:24:52.69
because of something
00:24:52.72\00:24:54.06
that we've been wrestling with
00:24:54.12\00:24:55.46
or, you know,
those painful emotions
00:24:55.49\00:24:57.73
when we just can't
seem to get it together.
00:24:57.76\00:25:00.63
And I think because
of that, and I think too,
00:25:00.66\00:25:03.37
like none of us
have been satisfied
00:25:03.40\00:25:04.87
with just letting the
pain go on unaddressed.
00:25:04.90\00:25:08.24
And because of that,
I think that's driven us
00:25:08.27\00:25:09.94
to really seek answers
00:25:10.01\00:25:11.34
and to find help
in the Word of God.
00:25:11.37\00:25:13.68
And I think the
beauty of what I see
00:25:13.71\00:25:16.41
that God has shown us
is answers in His Word.
00:25:16.44\00:25:20.42
And the powerful thing
about that is, like, you know,
00:25:20.45\00:25:23.05
you can go to some human
00:25:23.08\00:25:24.72
and they can
give you their advice.
00:25:24.75\00:25:26.69
But at the end of the day,
00:25:26.76\00:25:29.12
it can be lost in
the midst of uncertainty,
00:25:29.16\00:25:31.43
maybe it works,
maybe it doesn't.
00:25:31.46\00:25:32.79
But with the Word of
God, we know it works.
00:25:32.83\00:25:34.83
When God says, "I will
put within you a new heart."
00:25:34.86\00:25:37.53
We can take that to
the bank, we know it works.
00:25:37.57\00:25:40.00
And that's the beauty...
00:25:40.04\00:25:41.37
the relevance of
this whole thing is that,
00:25:41.40\00:25:43.20
you know, we're
taking these issues
00:25:43.24\00:25:44.64
that we don't
want to talk about,
00:25:44.67\00:25:46.01
that we're scared to talk about,
00:25:46.04\00:25:47.38
that we sometimes can't even
put into words in our minds,
00:25:47.44\00:25:50.61
we're taking those
00:25:50.65\00:25:51.98
and giving the most
relevant answer possible
00:25:52.01\00:25:54.98
from the Word of God,
00:25:55.02\00:25:56.45
The Word that spoke
the earth into existence.
00:25:56.48\00:25:59.22
And I think that
Word can say a few things
00:25:59.25\00:26:00.92
about our
experience too, you know.
00:26:00.99\00:26:02.32
Amen, and that Word,
implanted in your hearts
00:26:02.36\00:26:05.79
has the power
to save your souls.
00:26:05.83\00:26:08.43
Go ahead, you were
going to say something.
00:26:08.46\00:26:09.80
I was just going to say that
it's a burden to make it clear
00:26:09.83\00:26:11.97
that Jesus is
acquainted with our grief,
00:26:12.00\00:26:13.84
that's one of the burdens that
we want to communicate as well
00:26:13.87\00:26:15.77
that you have a
Savior who understands.
00:26:15.80\00:26:18.01
It's mentioned in
Hebrews 2 and in Hebrew 4
00:26:18.04\00:26:20.11
that Jesus had to
suffer in all points like us
00:26:20.18\00:26:22.78
so that He could
comfort us for one and two,
00:26:22.81\00:26:25.18
to show us that He
stays so that we would in turn
00:26:25.21\00:26:27.72
come boldly to
His throne and grace
00:26:27.75\00:26:29.18
and that we may obtain mercy
00:26:29.22\00:26:30.59
and find grace to
help in a time of need.
00:26:30.62\00:26:32.32
And so to make God
the Father and Jesus
00:26:32.35\00:26:34.79
as personal and
accessible as possible
00:26:34.82\00:26:38.03
to these young people is
another burden that we have.
00:26:38.06\00:26:40.40
To make it clear that
we're not talking about a God
00:26:40.43\00:26:43.00
who is
disconnected and doesn't care.
00:26:43.03\00:26:44.40
We talked about this
in one of the programs,
00:26:44.43\00:26:45.83
in Daniel 2, the
belief of the astrologers
00:26:45.87\00:26:48.87
and the sorcerers
was that, you know,
00:26:48.90\00:26:50.27
that God doesn't dwell with men.
00:26:50.31\00:26:52.04
And, you know,
He's just someone,
00:26:52.07\00:26:53.48
you can't deal with us.
00:26:53.54\00:26:54.88
It's the Babylonian
and pagan view of God,
00:26:54.91\00:26:56.24
but that's not
the view of scripture.
00:26:56.28\00:26:57.75
Our view is a God who
was willing to become flesh
00:26:57.78\00:27:00.88
and dwell among us,
to suffer alongside us,
00:27:00.95\00:27:03.72
and offer us a means of escape.
00:27:03.75\00:27:05.09
And so we would
try to make it clear
00:27:05.12\00:27:08.12
of how beautiful and inviting
00:27:08.16\00:27:09.62
the character of God
the Father and Jesus is
00:27:09.66\00:27:12.66
and how much power
through the Holy Spirit
00:27:12.69\00:27:14.56
is available to us
00:27:14.56\00:27:16.33
to be able to walk in
the things that God requires.
00:27:16.36\00:27:18.13
You just, we're
clarifying a lot of topics,
00:27:18.17\00:27:20.04
whether it be why
Adventism matters,
00:27:20.07\00:27:21.80
and just kind of
explaining why we believe
00:27:21.84\00:27:23.61
Seventh-day
Adventism is important.
00:27:23.64\00:27:25.61
Dealing with
practical Christianity,
00:27:25.64\00:27:27.58
how to know the will of God,
dealing with identity issues,
00:27:27.61\00:27:31.18
dealing with family
issues, you know, in brokenness
00:27:31.21\00:27:33.35
in the family environment.
00:27:33.42\00:27:34.75
Someone asked a question,
00:27:34.78\00:27:36.12
"If I have a business
relationship with my dad,
00:27:36.15\00:27:37.99
and I view God in the same way,
00:27:38.02\00:27:39.82
what do I do about this?"
00:27:39.85\00:27:41.62
And the amazing
thing is the insight
00:27:41.66\00:27:44.16
that a lot of these
young people are given
00:27:44.23\00:27:45.56
regarding their circumstances
gives me so much hope for them
00:27:45.59\00:27:49.10
because it's not, you
know, there are heart cries
00:27:49.13\00:27:52.70
that they don't
have answers for,
00:27:52.73\00:27:54.10
but then there's other questions
00:27:54.14\00:27:55.47
where people
are saying things...
00:27:55.50\00:27:56.84
There's one we did
on self-governance,
00:27:56.87\00:27:58.21
I think when we
filmed yesterday...
00:27:58.24\00:27:59.57
And explain what
self-governance is.
00:27:59.61\00:28:01.01
Self-governance, yeah,
00:28:01.04\00:28:02.38
'cause a lot of us
need that explanation.
00:28:02.41\00:28:03.88
Self-governance is the principle
00:28:03.91\00:28:05.25
that we're not to
coerce and control
00:28:05.28\00:28:07.18
and deprive our
children of liberty.
00:28:07.25\00:28:09.68
We are to give them information,
00:28:09.72\00:28:12.25
and give them the freedom
to walk in this information,
00:28:12.29\00:28:14.56
and then counseling them
and correcting them as they go
00:28:14.59\00:28:16.96
as opposed to sometimes we think
00:28:16.99\00:28:18.33
we're pretty protecting
them by removing any opportunity
00:28:18.36\00:28:20.76
to make the bad choice.
00:28:20.83\00:28:22.23
The problem is they're so
afraid of making bad choices
00:28:22.26\00:28:25.17
that they don't know
how to make any choice,
00:28:25.20\00:28:26.63
for one.
00:28:26.67\00:28:28.00
And the first time they
get a freedom to make a choice
00:28:28.04\00:28:30.51
is when there's no one
around to help them through it.
00:28:30.54\00:28:33.38
And so it's a
principle covered throughout
00:28:33.41\00:28:36.24
the writings and Adventism
through the Spirit of Prophecy,
00:28:36.28\00:28:38.35
and other means
that this is something
00:28:38.38\00:28:39.95
that we're
supposed to have access
00:28:40.02\00:28:41.35
to help teach us these things.
00:28:41.38\00:28:42.72
God works through
freedom and information.
00:28:42.75\00:28:45.45
Let me give you a quick example
00:28:45.49\00:28:46.86
'cause some people
are sitting there saying,
00:28:46.89\00:28:48.26
"I still don't
know what he says,"
00:28:48.29\00:28:49.62
but my mother, and
I've talked freely on air
00:28:49.66\00:28:52.99
that she was bipolar,
she had some difficulties,
00:28:53.03\00:28:56.50
but she was
still a great mother.
00:28:56.53\00:28:57.87
And one thing she
always did with me,
00:28:57.90\00:29:00.10
from the time I
was maybe 10 years up,
00:29:00.17\00:29:02.67
is that when
I'd have a question,
00:29:02.70\00:29:04.87
"What should I do,"
00:29:04.91\00:29:06.24
she would say,
"What are your options?"
00:29:06.27\00:29:08.01
And we'd sit and
enlist the options,
00:29:08.04\00:29:10.18
"What do you think
00:29:10.21\00:29:11.55
the consequences
will be if you do this?
00:29:11.58\00:29:13.85
What about if you do this?"
00:29:13.88\00:29:15.72
And of course, it
was age appropriate,
00:29:15.75\00:29:18.39
she would guide me through,
but by the time I was 16,
00:29:18.42\00:29:23.39
she would sit and say,
"Well, what are your options?
00:29:23.46\00:29:25.79
What do you think
the consequences?"
00:29:25.83\00:29:27.30
And sometimes she let
me make the wrong choice.
00:29:27.36\00:29:31.07
And then I had, you
know, I'd come to her
00:29:31.10\00:29:33.13
and it was like, "I
shouldn't have done that."
00:29:33.17\00:29:35.30
And she said, "Honey, we
discussed the consequences."
00:29:35.34\00:29:38.04
There is something...
00:29:38.07\00:29:39.41
I'm not afraid
to make a decision,
00:29:39.44\00:29:41.01
by the time I
remember going off to college,
00:29:41.04\00:29:43.65
where people were
like, they were freaking out
00:29:43.68\00:29:46.92
'cause they
couldn't balance a checkbook
00:29:46.95\00:29:49.55
or they had to
take care of themselves,
00:29:49.58\00:29:51.62
and I was off to
college just totally prepared,
00:29:51.65\00:29:55.16
and it did not frighten
me at all to make a choice.
00:29:55.19\00:29:57.63
And that's what
we're talking about.
00:29:57.66\00:29:58.99
Yes, the ability to kind of
think through intelligently,
00:29:59.03\00:30:02.00
to ration through
each decision to know
00:30:02.03\00:30:03.83
why it's right why it's wrong,
00:30:03.87\00:30:05.43
but sometimes in our
attempts to protect our kids,
00:30:05.47\00:30:07.30
we're actually
setting them up for harm
00:30:07.34\00:30:08.67
because they've never learned
how to think for themselves.
00:30:08.70\00:30:11.34
They've been a reflector
of men's thoughts around them.
00:30:11.37\00:30:13.21
And many times,
they're basically
00:30:13.24\00:30:14.64
internally thinking,
00:30:14.68\00:30:16.01
"I just need to obey
to stay out of trouble,"
00:30:16.04\00:30:18.65
which has horrific
consequences down the line,
00:30:18.68\00:30:21.28
particularly with our
view of how this whole scene
00:30:21.32\00:30:23.65
is going to end
up on earth like.
00:30:23.69\00:30:25.02
Carry that out for us.
00:30:25.05\00:30:26.45
Yeah, just in blatant honesty,
00:30:26.49\00:30:28.66
we're setting these kids up
to fall in a Sunday law crisis.
00:30:28.69\00:30:31.13
If these kids are
being taught in their mind
00:30:31.16\00:30:33.36
and in their experience
just to basically obey
00:30:33.40\00:30:35.46
to stay out of
trouble, what do they do
00:30:35.50\00:30:37.67
whenever the government
and law enforcements speak
00:30:37.70\00:30:40.10
louder than presenters,
preachers, and their parents?
00:30:40.17\00:30:42.84
They're just going to
obey to stay out of trouble.
00:30:42.87\00:30:45.31
This is why we need
to train our children
00:30:45.34\00:30:46.71
to think for themselves now.
00:30:46.74\00:30:48.08
So this young person's
question was, "Wouldn't it be...
00:30:48.11\00:30:50.78
Why do our
parents do this to us?
00:30:50.81\00:30:53.18
And why is God
letting this happen?
00:30:53.21\00:30:55.08
Doesn't He know
that if we don't know
00:30:55.12\00:30:56.62
how to make these
decisions in a safe environment
00:30:56.65\00:30:58.52
where we can receive correction
00:30:58.55\00:31:00.19
that we're just
going to fall later?
00:31:00.26\00:31:01.59
Why would God let
them do that to us?"
00:31:01.62\00:31:04.39
That was the person's question.
00:31:04.43\00:31:06.19
And the insight
the young person had on
00:31:06.23\00:31:08.60
how self-governance should work
00:31:08.63\00:31:09.96
is amazing to me
and very insightful.
00:31:10.03\00:31:12.77
So we give them the opportunity
00:31:12.80\00:31:14.54
to ask their
questions anonymously as well.
00:31:14.57\00:31:17.21
All they have is like a gender,
an age, and a state, that's it,
00:31:17.27\00:31:21.01
or country or
province, wherever they're from.
00:31:21.04\00:31:23.31
And it just kind
of gives some insight
00:31:23.35\00:31:25.08
into the other people
who are listening to realize,
00:31:25.11\00:31:26.88
"Oh, man, someone else
00:31:26.92\00:31:28.25
who's my age is
wrestling with this."
00:31:28.28\00:31:29.62
But we're not giving specific
details about the person,
00:31:29.65\00:31:32.25
so they can be
vulnerable but not be exposed.
00:31:32.29\00:31:34.89
And their story
can still inspire
00:31:34.92\00:31:36.62
and help other people
wrestling the same way.
00:31:36.69\00:31:39.13
Go ahead.
00:31:39.16\00:31:40.50
I just want to jump in here too.
00:31:40.56\00:31:42.03
You know, we've both...
00:31:42.06\00:31:44.40
We're actually networking at
Heritage Academy in Tennessee.
00:31:44.43\00:31:48.40
I've been
involved a lot with GYC,
00:31:48.44\00:31:50.54
so I've seen a lot
of young people around.
00:31:50.57\00:31:53.07
And I am a young person,
00:31:53.11\00:31:54.61
so I've met a
lot of young people
00:31:54.64\00:31:58.68
who have grown
up in an environment
00:31:58.71\00:32:01.95
where they haven't been
free to govern themselves,
00:32:01.98\00:32:05.19
where that self-governance
hasn't been taught.
00:32:05.22\00:32:07.26
And so these
perspectives have come from
00:32:07.29\00:32:09.86
seeing a lot of situations
00:32:09.89\00:32:11.89
in which young
people are just plain
00:32:11.93\00:32:15.56
and simply unprepared
to stand for the right.
00:32:15.60\00:32:19.10
And what we've seen
is, where this happens,
00:32:19.13\00:32:22.97
there tends to be a
significant backfire of things,
00:32:23.00\00:32:27.24
where, you know, a
young person, as soon...
00:32:27.28\00:32:30.51
And I've seen this again a lot
00:32:30.55\00:32:32.98
where we'll have a
lot of coercion as to
00:32:33.01\00:32:38.65
what we're supposed to do.
00:32:38.69\00:32:40.02
And then, in the
end, just go buck wild.
00:32:40.06\00:32:41.86
So this isn't just like
theorizing and whatever,
00:32:41.89\00:32:45.29
like this is seen a lot of times
00:32:45.33\00:32:47.60
and seen a lot of
evidence in scripture,
00:32:47.60\00:32:50.73
in The Spirit of
Prophecy, is seen,
00:32:50.80\00:32:52.73
you know, a lot of
counsel on being careful
00:32:52.77\00:32:56.64
to not control the
will of a young person
00:32:56.67\00:33:00.41
so much that it forces
them in the other direction.
00:33:00.48\00:33:02.44
And there are many parents
00:33:02.48\00:33:03.85
who try to break
the stubborn will.
00:33:03.88\00:33:06.35
When we think
that, there's two points
00:33:06.38\00:33:08.08
I wanted to make very quickly.
00:33:08.12\00:33:10.02
The identity crisis that
young people are feeling...
00:33:10.09\00:33:13.46
Let me tell you something,
there are a lot of people
00:33:13.49\00:33:16.49
who've been in
the church for years
00:33:16.52\00:33:18.03
who are suffering
this identity crisis.
00:33:18.06\00:33:20.90
And if we understand how
God... How does God govern?
00:33:20.93\00:33:25.27
I mean, does God just
put His finger on us and say,
00:33:25.30\00:33:27.54
"You've got to do
this, you've got to do that"?
00:33:27.60\00:33:29.57
No, it is...
00:33:29.60\00:33:32.57
It's a covenant relationship
00:33:32.61\00:33:34.64
with the
love-motivated obedience.
00:33:34.68\00:33:38.45
But God lets us
decide for ourselves.
00:33:38.48\00:33:41.15
So it's very important.
00:33:41.18\00:33:43.55
Did you go through
that identity crisis?
00:33:43.59\00:33:45.19
You know, I did.
00:33:45.22\00:33:46.55
I mean there came a
point where I had to realize
00:33:46.59\00:33:48.32
and think about
what do I believe is me.
00:33:48.36\00:33:50.69
I know what my
parents have said,
00:33:50.73\00:33:52.16
I know what the church has said,
00:33:52.19\00:33:53.76
but I got to
college and realized,
00:33:53.80\00:33:57.20
"Well, what do I believe?" Yes.
00:33:57.23\00:33:59.60
That was a time in my life
where a lot of my close friends
00:33:59.63\00:34:02.84
either went toward
God or away from God.
00:34:02.87\00:34:05.51
And I saw that and I had to ask,
00:34:05.54\00:34:06.88
"Where do I fit with this?"
00:34:06.91\00:34:08.24
And I see it so
much every day working
00:34:08.28\00:34:09.64
in a university environment
00:34:09.68\00:34:11.01
and having worked at
other Adventist schools,
00:34:11.05\00:34:14.65
it's sad to me,
how many, after college
00:34:14.68\00:34:18.85
or shortly thereafter,
00:34:18.89\00:34:20.29
will no longer be part of church
00:34:20.36\00:34:21.96
or even practicing Christians.
00:34:21.99\00:34:24.39
And you think about why is that?
00:34:24.43\00:34:25.76
there's a lot of
discussion in the Church.
00:34:25.79\00:34:27.30
"Why the young
people leave the church?"
00:34:27.30\00:34:29.80
But there's a significant place
00:34:29.83\00:34:31.20
where young people are
going to ask questions.
00:34:31.23\00:34:33.90
We have to.
00:34:33.94\00:34:35.30
That's part of
that identity piece,
00:34:35.34\00:34:37.77
"Who am I? Who is God?
Where do I fit in the world?"
00:34:37.81\00:34:40.44
And there's a point
00:34:40.48\00:34:41.81
that everyone has to go
through that, I believe.
00:34:41.84\00:34:43.41
Absolutely.
00:34:43.45\00:34:44.78
And so the question is
00:34:44.81\00:34:46.15
when people are
asking those questions,
00:34:46.18\00:34:47.52
what answers are
they going to hear?
00:34:47.55\00:34:48.88
Is it just going
to be the pat answers
00:34:48.92\00:34:51.09
that don't meet
the needs of the heart?
00:34:51.12\00:34:52.69
Is it going to be the answers
00:34:52.72\00:34:54.06
that are out there in
the world, in the media,
00:34:54.12\00:34:55.76
and that are
flooding you every day?
00:34:55.79\00:34:58.13
Or is someone
going to be there to say,
00:34:58.16\00:34:59.83
"Hey, let me help you see
00:34:59.86\00:35:01.63
where the Word of
God fits those things
00:35:01.66\00:35:03.40
that are really
like aching inside?"
00:35:03.47\00:35:06.94
These questions are
not just intellectual.
00:35:06.97\00:35:09.84
That's a huge thing.
00:35:09.87\00:35:11.21
It has to do so
much with what's going on
00:35:11.24\00:35:13.14
in our hearts and our lives
00:35:13.17\00:35:14.98
and the really
deep things inside.
00:35:15.01\00:35:17.95
Go ahead.
00:35:17.98\00:35:20.12
We took a deep
breath at the same time.
00:35:20.15\00:35:21.48
I'm sorry, the other thing too
00:35:21.52\00:35:23.49
that I want to
mention with this is,
00:35:23.52\00:35:26.55
on Facebook, you go on,
00:35:26.59\00:35:27.92
and you see a
hundred posts about
00:35:27.96\00:35:30.33
how to meet these
emotional needs, right?
00:35:30.36\00:35:33.03
You're seeing constant blogs
and videos and all these things
00:35:33.06\00:35:36.83
from, in many cases,
00:35:36.87\00:35:38.20
a secularly
humanistic standpoint
00:35:38.23\00:35:41.14
to address the heart
needs that we're dealing with.
00:35:41.17\00:35:44.27
Or even worse, like let's say,
00:35:44.31\00:35:46.64
some of our raw
questions about is,
00:35:46.68\00:35:48.78
"Should I be doing this or not?"
00:35:48.81\00:35:50.55
If we go on there,
00:35:50.61\00:35:52.51
we're having a ton of
answers that aren't biblical.
00:35:52.55\00:35:55.55
Yes.
00:35:55.58\00:35:56.95
So I think a lot of the impetus
for this program is to say,
00:35:56.99\00:36:00.42
you know what, news
media, social media,
00:36:00.49\00:36:05.73
all of those things are giving
answers to our young people
00:36:05.76\00:36:08.83
that are totally out of
harmony with the Word of God.
00:36:08.86\00:36:11.10
And it's happening in a
vacuum where we as a church
00:36:11.13\00:36:13.97
are scared to address issues
00:36:14.04\00:36:16.20
because it goes a little
bit too depressed sometimes
00:36:16.24\00:36:19.61
or it goes a
little bit too intense
00:36:19.64\00:36:21.58
or it gets a little bit
too in the range of things that
00:36:21.61\00:36:24.91
we're not comfortable with.
00:36:24.95\00:36:26.28
And so if we can address
these issues in a way that,
00:36:26.31\00:36:30.19
you know, young people
can actually learn from,
00:36:30.22\00:36:34.26
we need to take over
the narrative from the world
00:36:34.29\00:36:37.46
and start saying, you know
what God has answers to this.
00:36:37.53\00:36:41.06
And God is able to actually
give you peace, and hope,
00:36:41.10\00:36:43.20
and happiness way more
than the world can give.
00:36:43.23\00:36:45.83
Amen.
00:36:45.87\00:36:47.20
God doesn't shame
us for having questions
00:36:47.24\00:36:48.80
and make us feel
idiots when we're vulnerable.
00:36:48.84\00:36:50.57
He says, "Come, let
us reason together."
00:36:50.61\00:36:52.41
But many times
our parents do. Yes.
00:36:52.44\00:36:54.98
And I, fortunately,
wasn't in that situation,
00:36:55.01\00:36:57.45
but many times,
our young people are
00:36:57.51\00:36:59.55
where they just feel
like, whether it be anyone
00:36:59.58\00:37:02.28
who is leading them
as teachers or chaplains
00:37:02.32\00:37:04.52
or pastors or just parents,
they are made to feel like,
00:37:04.55\00:37:08.19
"How could you possibly
ask a question like that?"
00:37:08.22\00:37:10.89
Or "You should
know better than that."
00:37:10.96\00:37:12.93
The problem is they don't.
00:37:12.96\00:37:14.36
And I mean, you guys
can testify to the fact
00:37:14.40\00:37:16.30
you get alarming phone
calls from adults and pastors
00:37:16.33\00:37:20.27
in the pastoral department
here of real heart issues
00:37:20.34\00:37:23.41
of not having any
assurance of salvation,
00:37:23.44\00:37:25.97
why would God let this happen.
00:37:26.01\00:37:27.81
And so if the adults
are having these questions,
00:37:27.84\00:37:30.45
of course our young
people are going to have them
00:37:30.48\00:37:32.08
because the very
people that are raising them
00:37:32.11\00:37:33.62
and leading them are
wrestling with the same things.
00:37:33.65\00:37:35.85
The difference is
these have more courage
00:37:35.88\00:37:38.15
to at least ask if they're
given a safe place to do so.
00:37:38.19\00:37:41.06
So one of the
things that we try to do
00:37:41.09\00:37:42.46
when we just
practice ministry in general
00:37:42.49\00:37:44.63
is to do ministry in a way
00:37:44.66\00:37:46.09
that shows young people
that we're safe, we understand,
00:37:46.13\00:37:48.90
and that God
understands and they're safe.
00:37:48.93\00:37:51.13
So just from a preaching
and teaching standpoint,
00:37:51.17\00:37:52.97
that's been our perspective.
00:37:53.00\00:37:54.77
And then from the Q&A format,
00:37:54.80\00:37:56.14
we're just carrying that
over into this environment.
00:37:56.17\00:37:58.67
I think another thing
that happens in Adventism
00:37:58.71\00:38:00.54
is that we're pretty good
at communicating to the world
00:38:00.61\00:38:03.21
that there are a lot
of things that God expects
00:38:03.24\00:38:05.68
that Christendom
seems to have lost sight of.
00:38:05.71\00:38:07.98
And we need to
tell people these things
00:38:08.02\00:38:09.72
because they matter.
00:38:09.75\00:38:11.09
The problem is many
times we have communicated
00:38:11.12\00:38:13.79
what God expects at the expense
00:38:13.82\00:38:16.29
of how God enables us
to do what He expects.
00:38:16.32\00:38:17.79
Absolutely.
00:38:17.83\00:38:19.26
And so, in turn, we
have all these fears
00:38:19.29\00:38:21.60
and all these
failures in our experience
00:38:21.63\00:38:24.33
and yet we have no
idea how to get there.
00:38:24.37\00:38:25.87
It's like Paul
says in Romans 7:20,
00:38:25.90\00:38:27.44
I think, he's just like,
"I know what I need to do,
00:38:27.47\00:38:29.47
but how to get
there, I have no idea."
00:38:29.50\00:38:31.54
And this is exactly
how our young people feel
00:38:31.57\00:38:34.34
and our adults are
feeling the same way.
00:38:34.38\00:38:35.71
But they're
asking these questions.
00:38:35.74\00:38:37.95
So this is why the message
of Righteousness by Faith,
00:38:37.98\00:38:40.52
in Christ, our
righteousness was meant to be
00:38:40.55\00:38:42.02
a large component of
the third angel's message
00:38:42.05\00:38:45.49
to prepare people to
stand in the day of God.
00:38:45.52\00:38:47.99
And it makes
sense to young people.
00:38:48.02\00:38:50.26
When I preach at our
colleges or universities
00:38:50.33\00:38:52.29
or at our academies,
00:38:52.33\00:38:54.20
I don't downplay
what God expects,
00:38:54.30\00:38:56.06
but I uplift who God is
00:38:56.10\00:38:58.03
and how He enables us
to do what He expects.
00:38:58.07\00:39:00.57
And so it's not just a
matter of saying the "what,"
00:39:00.60\00:39:03.07
we need to communicate
the "who" and the "how."
00:39:03.10\00:39:05.47
Absolutely.
00:39:05.51\00:39:06.84
And those
contextualize the "what."
00:39:06.91\00:39:08.41
And that's why the
everlasting gospel,
00:39:08.44\00:39:10.28
in Revelation 14:6,
00:39:10.31\00:39:11.65
contextualizes everything else
in the three angels' messages.
00:39:11.68\00:39:14.35
That's how God operates.
00:39:14.38\00:39:15.72
He realized that if people know
00:39:15.75\00:39:17.12
who He is and how He works,
what He asks just makes sense.
00:39:17.15\00:39:21.92
Exactly.
00:39:21.96\00:39:23.96
And that's not
communicated to our young people
00:39:23.99\00:39:26.16
as well as it ought to be,
00:39:26.19\00:39:27.50
even our adults,
and so we're wrestling.
00:39:27.56\00:39:28.93
Well, and I think part
of it is that many people
00:39:28.96\00:39:32.03
grew up with a lot of
rules and no relationship.
00:39:32.07\00:39:35.00
And rules without relationship
00:39:35.04\00:39:37.11
results in rebellion or
confusion, one of the two.
00:39:37.14\00:39:41.21
But I do believe... I
love what you're saying,
00:39:41.24\00:39:44.58
and my mind is
going 90 miles an hour.
00:39:44.61\00:39:47.72
When you said that the
world has stolen the narrative,
00:39:47.75\00:39:52.05
you're going to, this program,
00:39:52.09\00:39:54.09
Raw Questions Relevant Answers
00:39:54.16\00:39:56.02
will be paired
in a half-hour slot.
00:39:56.06\00:39:59.19
And you'll be first.
00:39:59.23\00:40:00.60
It's a 15-minute program,
but the weekly half-hour slot
00:40:00.63\00:40:04.30
will have this and
in Intimate Clarity,
00:40:04.33\00:40:07.00
now that is a program that
will follow this, that is...
00:40:07.04\00:40:11.51
We will have a disclaimer
on it because you may want
00:40:11.54\00:40:14.84
your younger children
to be out of the room.
00:40:14.88\00:40:17.41
But what I believe
is on these issues,
00:40:17.45\00:40:23.28
on sexual issues,
00:40:23.35\00:40:24.69
and we're not so
much talking sex,
00:40:24.72\00:40:26.09
you're not
getting into what we do.
00:40:26.12\00:40:27.76
We will to some
degree. Yeah, to some degree.
00:40:27.79\00:40:29.82
But we're not going to
go as deep as she does, yes.
00:40:29.86\00:40:32.16
Yes, and she being
Jennifer Jill Schwirzer.
00:40:32.19\00:40:36.70
These are things that we
need to get before the people.
00:40:36.73\00:40:39.97
And to your point, yes,
00:40:40.00\00:40:43.24
we don't just
relax God's standards,
00:40:43.27\00:40:46.44
but if we don't
understand 2 Corinthians 12:9,
00:40:46.47\00:40:50.01
what Jesus said, "My
grace is sufficient for you,"
00:40:50.08\00:40:53.45
and we understand that, to me,
00:40:53.48\00:40:55.15
the greatest gifts of
grace are Jesus Christ.
00:40:55.18\00:40:59.25
"For God so loved the world,
He gave His only begotten Son."
00:40:59.29\00:41:02.89
The Holy Spirit, that
was the gift from on high
00:41:02.92\00:41:06.70
that it is by the Spirit,
Ephesians 3:20-26 is saying,
00:41:06.73\00:41:11.57
"This is how Christ
dwells in us by faith
00:41:11.60\00:41:14.87
through His Holy Spirit."
00:41:14.90\00:41:16.34
This is how He empowers us.
00:41:16.37\00:41:18.67
And obedience is by
grace because He says,
00:41:18.71\00:41:21.88
"God works in us to will
and to do His good pleasure."
00:41:21.91\00:41:25.05
As we learn to
simply yield to Him,
00:41:25.08\00:41:28.55
we call it surrender
and people go "Surrender?"
00:41:28.58\00:41:32.09
But it's just yielding,
00:41:32.12\00:41:33.92
consenting to
allow Him to follow us
00:41:33.96\00:41:36.52
'cause He's not
going to force us.
00:41:36.56\00:41:38.13
But He does give us the power.
00:41:38.16\00:41:40.10
And then I love the
emphasis on the Word
00:41:40.16\00:41:43.83
because this is
alive and active and it is,
00:41:43.90\00:41:46.77
you know, when Paul says,
00:41:46.80\00:41:48.14
"We've been given
the mind of Christ."
00:41:48.17\00:41:50.24
Here it is. This
is the mind of Christ.
00:41:50.27\00:41:53.81
And so as we operate by
the principles of this Word,
00:41:53.84\00:41:58.75
that identity crisis I mean,
when we begin to understand,
00:41:58.78\00:42:03.32
Christ isn't
only our substitute,
00:42:03.39\00:42:05.15
but He's our
surety, that, you know,
00:42:05.19\00:42:07.66
2 Corinthians
1:20, He's our surety.
00:42:07.69\00:42:10.16
"From God to us,
00:42:10.23\00:42:11.56
that all of God's promises
are yes and amen in Him."
00:42:11.59\00:42:15.50
But then He's our
surety from us to God
00:42:15.53\00:42:19.73
because He is going
to work in us to will
00:42:19.77\00:42:21.34
and to do His good pleasure.
00:42:21.37\00:42:22.70
He will complete the
good work He's begun in us.
00:42:22.74\00:42:25.51
And we could just
get here and have church.
00:42:25.54\00:42:28.84
This is, to me...
I'm so excited about...
00:42:28.88\00:42:33.48
I told Jill this
morning, we were talking,
00:42:33.52\00:42:35.38
and I said, you know,
00:42:35.42\00:42:36.75
Danny declared this to be
the year of present truth.
00:42:36.79\00:42:40.02
And we're doing the
Three Angels' Camp Meeting.
00:42:40.06\00:42:43.39
We always have a
theme for the year.
00:42:43.43\00:42:45.09
But we're doing Raw
Questions Relevant Answers,
00:42:45.13\00:42:47.86
Intimate Clarity,
we've got a program coming up
00:42:47.86\00:42:51.80
Life After Choice
that will be about
00:42:51.83\00:42:54.60
abortion and people,
it's testimonies about people.
00:42:54.64\00:42:57.94
We're going to do a
program on Create...
00:42:57.97\00:43:03.11
God as Creator...
Creation science if you will.
00:43:03.14\00:43:06.51
And it's so exciting
to see what God's doing
00:43:06.55\00:43:09.52
because, to me,
00:43:09.55\00:43:11.25
we're still having the
preaching on all of this,
00:43:11.29\00:43:15.32
but we're hitting places
where people are crying out
00:43:15.36\00:43:19.79
and they need these answers.
00:43:19.83\00:43:21.60
Yes, yeah.
00:43:21.63\00:43:22.96
They need these
answers. They do.
00:43:23.00\00:43:24.33
Of the topics
you've covered so far,
00:43:24.37\00:43:27.74
what did you feel was something
00:43:27.77\00:43:31.47
that touched you
more on a personal level,
00:43:31.51\00:43:34.04
either the question or the topic
00:43:34.08\00:43:35.74
that had the greatest impact
00:43:35.78\00:43:37.71
or influence in
your life in the past?
00:43:37.75\00:43:41.78
You know, I would first say
00:43:41.82\00:43:43.95
something that really touches me
00:43:43.99\00:43:45.32
is people asking where is God,
00:43:45.35\00:43:48.76
this happened, that
happened, where was God
00:43:48.79\00:43:51.76
or how do I recover
00:43:51.79\00:43:53.46
from all of
these things going on.
00:43:53.50\00:43:54.93
And it touches me
because I've seen it in my life
00:43:54.93\00:43:58.60
I've asked that
question at different times,
00:43:58.63\00:44:01.04
and I've also seen so much,
00:44:01.07\00:44:02.87
as our world gets crazier,
more stuff is happening.
00:44:02.90\00:44:06.01
The percentage of kids
who have been through abuse,
00:44:06.04\00:44:09.48
who have been through
so much brokenness in life,
00:44:09.51\00:44:12.15
how can you not get to adulthood
00:44:12.18\00:44:14.52
and have some of
those questions of what now
00:44:14.55\00:44:17.19
and how does God play into this.
00:44:17.22\00:44:19.89
And like you said,
Shelly, we have God's Word,
00:44:19.92\00:44:22.62
we have so much healing there,
00:44:22.66\00:44:24.83
but sometimes, it's like
there's a wall around it.
00:44:24.86\00:44:27.96
We don't know how
to make that be alive.
00:44:28.00\00:44:31.23
And so that's
something that has really
00:44:31.27\00:44:33.10
touched me with this is
to say how can we share that
00:44:33.13\00:44:37.74
there are answers
about this type of thing,
00:44:37.77\00:44:39.91
that God's Word is more
than just maybe the religion
00:44:39.94\00:44:42.64
that you grew up
with or the things
00:44:42.68\00:44:45.05
that you thought it was about
00:44:45.08\00:44:46.88
but that it can
actually appeal to those places.
00:44:46.92\00:44:50.75
And understanding
the rules of engagement
00:44:50.79\00:44:53.66
in this great controversy
between good and evil,
00:44:53.72\00:44:56.12
I mean, sometimes our
kids don't understand it.
00:44:56.16\00:44:58.19
I mean, a lot of
adults don't understand that
00:44:58.23\00:45:00.36
because we get a lot of
questions like where is God,
00:45:00.43\00:45:03.13
people calling in to
the pastoral department.
00:45:03.16\00:45:06.03
So thank you for saying that.
00:45:06.07\00:45:07.70
That's a beautiful sentiment,
and this is something that
00:45:07.74\00:45:10.94
if people can understand...
00:45:10.97\00:45:14.01
And, Mark, you
always bring it home
00:45:14.08\00:45:16.48
on the word to me.
00:45:16.51\00:45:17.85
And to me, that
was a life-changing.
00:45:17.88\00:45:19.95
When God taught me that...
00:45:20.02\00:45:21.85
Isaiah 55:11, "As I
return, His word to Him,
00:45:21.88\00:45:25.85
it does not return void."
00:45:25.89\00:45:27.59
But Jeremiah 1:12
says, "He's active and alert,
00:45:27.66\00:45:30.93
watching over
His word to perform."
00:45:30.96\00:45:32.36
And in Romans 4:17,
00:45:32.39\00:45:34.36
"That He's the God of the dead
00:45:34.40\00:45:36.93
who calls things that are not,
as though they already were."
00:45:36.97\00:45:40.70
And so this is something I feel,
00:45:40.74\00:45:43.37
you know, I may get
up there and say this,
00:45:43.41\00:45:45.14
but you can tell, I'll
break out into preachy.
00:45:45.17\00:45:47.94
What I love about your format
00:45:47.98\00:45:50.61
is that there is good
energy, great synergy,
00:45:50.65\00:45:57.15
but there is this easy flow.
00:45:57.19\00:45:59.75
It is just like you're
eavesdropping on three people,
00:45:59.79\00:46:03.76
who are discussing this topic
00:46:03.79\00:46:06.03
from a very personal perspective
00:46:06.06\00:46:08.83
but from a very
spiritual perspective
00:46:08.86\00:46:11.80
to find the answers.
00:46:11.83\00:46:13.17
People are from
very different places,
00:46:13.20\00:46:14.54
I mean, some are
asking the questions like
00:46:14.57\00:46:16.47
we've talked about,
some are just asking,
00:46:16.50\00:46:18.61
"Why am I an
Adventist? Why does it matter?
00:46:18.64\00:46:21.51
How do I share my faith?
00:46:21.54\00:46:23.11
What should I be watching on TV?
00:46:23.14\00:46:24.81
What should I be listening to?"
00:46:24.85\00:46:26.72
And so it goes
from the big things
00:46:26.75\00:46:28.95
to just the
every day life things,
00:46:28.98\00:46:31.29
the practical things.
00:46:31.32\00:46:33.15
And that's what's
been fun to look at to,
00:46:33.19\00:46:35.39
it's just to be able to
look at a broad spectrum,
00:46:35.42\00:46:38.56
just of life as a
young person today
00:46:38.59\00:46:41.66
and talk about it.
00:46:41.70\00:46:43.03
Yeah.
00:46:43.06\00:46:44.40
I think honestly the other
thing too for me has just been,
00:46:44.43\00:46:47.97
you know, recently, there'd been
00:46:48.00\00:46:51.24
some rather intense
things happening in my life
00:46:51.27\00:46:54.94
that just really,
really got me down on a level
00:46:54.98\00:46:58.78
where I had to go through
00:46:58.81\00:47:00.55
and wrestle through a
bunch of other questions,
00:47:00.58\00:47:02.52
just in my own
personal experience.
00:47:02.55\00:47:05.39
And I think, for me,
something that this program
00:47:05.42\00:47:08.76
has really done for
me is just help me to see
00:47:08.79\00:47:14.36
how much of God has
grown me in the past year too
00:47:14.36\00:47:19.77
'cause like, you know,
00:47:19.80\00:47:21.14
you get you get hit
broadside or something,
00:47:21.17\00:47:22.87
and then you're floundering,
00:47:22.90\00:47:25.34
you're
wondering which way is up,
00:47:25.37\00:47:27.18
and that kind of becomes a
little bit of your identity
00:47:27.21\00:47:30.15
on the inside,
you know. Absolutely.
00:47:30.18\00:47:31.71
And then something
like this, it's just...
00:47:31.75\00:47:34.52
I was realizing the
other day, it's like,
00:47:34.55\00:47:36.79
"Wow, God has really
done a lot in helping me
00:47:36.82\00:47:40.36
to wrestle through
some of these things
00:47:40.39\00:47:41.72
and finding answers
that I didn't have before."
00:47:41.76\00:47:44.36
And, you know, it's
like that song blessings,
00:47:44.39\00:47:47.00
you know, What if His Blessings
Come through Raindrops.
00:47:47.03\00:47:51.07
And it's just made me realize,
00:47:51.10\00:47:52.67
you know, these
circumstances that, you know,
00:47:52.70\00:47:56.34
were really
difficult to go through,
00:47:56.37\00:48:00.31
they've really worked
for good and have brought me
00:48:00.34\00:48:05.58
to a much more firm
place in my own walk with God
00:48:05.61\00:48:09.52
than had they not happened.
00:48:09.55\00:48:11.02
So I guess it's just
been kind of affirmation
00:48:11.05\00:48:13.99
and healing process.
00:48:14.02\00:48:15.59
And here's what's interesting
that I found in the past.
00:48:15.62\00:48:17.89
I remember I was doing a
series and I believe in Texas
00:48:17.93\00:48:20.33
before becoming an Adventist,
00:48:20.36\00:48:21.66
but God had
given me this teaching,
00:48:21.70\00:48:24.77
and I was just watching
these 40 ladies just grow.
00:48:24.80\00:48:29.37
I mean, their trajectory...
00:48:29.40\00:48:30.74
And one night I was coming home,
00:48:30.81\00:48:32.67
and I'm praying on the way home,
00:48:32.71\00:48:34.18
and I said, "Oh, Lord,
thank You that they're all,"
00:48:34.21\00:48:37.35
you know, "You're
changing them all so fast.
00:48:37.38\00:48:39.71
Oh, Lord, thank you."
00:48:39.75\00:48:41.08
And then I said,
"Change me, change me."
00:48:41.12\00:48:43.62
And the Lord said to
me, "Do you not realize..."
00:48:43.69\00:48:47.39
And I knew this was God's voice,
00:48:47.46\00:48:48.89
that's still small voice,
00:48:48.92\00:48:50.26
I didn't
actually hear something,
00:48:50.33\00:48:51.93
but boy it was bang!
00:48:51.96\00:48:53.93
He said, "Do you
not realize the changes
00:48:54.00\00:48:56.83
that I have wrought in your life
00:48:56.87\00:48:58.93
and you've yet to thank Me."
00:48:58.97\00:49:00.37
Whoa!
00:49:00.40\00:49:02.80
And I mean I never
used the word wrought.
00:49:02.84\00:49:04.81
I knew that
wasn't my own thought,
00:49:04.84\00:49:06.57
but it just came through.
00:49:06.61\00:49:08.34
And I drove the rest
of the way home in silence
00:49:08.38\00:49:11.41
for nearly an hour,
00:49:11.45\00:49:12.95
thanking about what
God had done in my life.
00:49:12.98\00:49:15.98
And sometimes we
aren't quick to recognize
00:49:16.02\00:49:19.39
what God's
doing in our own life.
00:49:19.42\00:49:21.06
What impact has this had on you
00:49:21.09\00:49:23.16
or what through
the filming so far?
00:49:23.19\00:49:26.53
Because I've spent
the last three years
00:49:26.56\00:49:28.63
or so just
traveling and doing a work
00:49:28.66\00:49:30.80
that I felt was an
unmet need in Adventism
00:49:30.87\00:49:32.70
of trying to
communicate who God actually is,
00:49:32.73\00:49:36.20
how the very things that
God requires, God provides,
00:49:36.24\00:49:39.07
all of His
biddings are enablings,
00:49:39.11\00:49:41.21
and dealing with heart
issues that I feel like
00:49:41.24\00:49:43.35
we aren't doing
as much as we could,
00:49:43.38\00:49:44.91
there's been a lot
of praise in my heart
00:49:44.95\00:49:46.61
just to realize that, one, 3ABN
00:49:46.65\00:49:48.35
had the courage to
do a program like this
00:49:48.38\00:49:50.92
and to reach a demographic.
00:49:50.99\00:49:52.52
Two, to have the
willingness to disperse it
00:49:52.55\00:49:54.82
on more than one platform,
00:49:54.86\00:49:56.19
it's going to be released
on Facebook and Youtube,
00:49:56.22\00:49:57.93
not just 3ABN.
00:49:57.96\00:49:59.56
On all three vehicles,
to try to find these people
00:49:59.59\00:50:01.93
wherever we can.
00:50:01.96\00:50:03.67
And three, that
it's actually happening.
00:50:03.73\00:50:05.67
One, to get to do
ministry with my friends,
00:50:05.70\00:50:07.80
but two, to be in a
situation where we can finally,
00:50:07.84\00:50:10.37
on a large scale,
release something to the church
00:50:10.41\00:50:13.48
has been an unmet
need for way too long.
00:50:13.54\00:50:16.01
To see this thing actually
have skin and bones on it
00:50:16.04\00:50:18.41
and be brought to the
people who need it the most,
00:50:18.45\00:50:21.28
just brings a lot of
praise and gratitude to my heart
00:50:21.32\00:50:23.59
because who God actually
is, how He actually operates,
00:50:23.65\00:50:27.32
God is desperate
to be understood.
00:50:27.36\00:50:29.86
This is the whole
purpose of the controversy,
00:50:29.89\00:50:32.06
not just to
give a legal argument
00:50:32.09\00:50:33.46
for the existence of evil
00:50:33.50\00:50:34.83
but to allow God
himself to be understood on
00:50:34.86\00:50:37.20
who He actually is.
00:50:37.23\00:50:38.87
He's always had your
best interests at heart.
00:50:38.90\00:50:40.94
He's doing everything
in his power to save all,
00:50:40.97\00:50:43.44
even the ones
that we can't stand.
00:50:43.47\00:50:45.34
And if this is actually true,
00:50:45.37\00:50:48.21
someone should be
telling this to people.
00:50:48.24\00:50:50.31
And as loud as possible,
and to have a vehicle like 3ABN
00:50:50.38\00:50:54.48
and the Internet to do this,
00:50:54.52\00:50:57.05
just brings great joy
and gratitude to my heart
00:50:57.12\00:51:00.26
because I think
that the very thing that
00:51:00.29\00:51:02.32
God said would
happen in Revelation 18,
00:51:02.36\00:51:04.56
"Dispersing to the
world a true picture
00:51:04.59\00:51:06.46
of His character of love."
00:51:06.49\00:51:07.86
I think this is the beginning
of that process happening.
00:51:07.93\00:51:10.03
God's been doing it for years.
00:51:10.07\00:51:11.40
But on a larger
scale to get traction,
00:51:11.43\00:51:13.54
I see stuff
happening, and this excites me.
00:51:13.60\00:51:15.70
Well, we are excited as well.
00:51:15.74\00:51:17.57
And I just know this
is a God-ordained moment,
00:51:17.61\00:51:21.81
I know that He
brought the three of you in,
00:51:21.84\00:51:24.88
and this is a program you...
00:51:24.91\00:51:27.78
I guarantee you,
it doesn't matter
00:51:27.82\00:51:29.25
what your age is, it's
ministering to all of us
00:51:29.28\00:51:32.95
who are listening right now.
00:51:32.99\00:51:34.89
And there really
is no age barrier.
00:51:34.92\00:51:36.83
But I'm so excited
that we have a program
00:51:36.89\00:51:39.33
that is specifically
targeting the youth.
00:51:39.36\00:51:44.00
We have to go to
our news break just now,
00:51:44.03\00:51:47.70
and we're going to
come back in a moment
00:51:47.74\00:51:50.04
for some closing comments.
00:51:50.07\00:51:52.07
Please stay tuned.
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