I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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Removing pain
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Lord, let my words
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Heal a heart that hurts
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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Mending broken people
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- Hello and welcome
to 3ABN Today. If you are
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a part of our 3ABN
family, you know who I am. But
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if you're just
joining us, my name is John
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Lomacang. I am a part of
this wonderful ministry that
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the Lord has established
to get the people of the world
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ready for the soon
coming of our Savior. And thank
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you so much for
taking the time today to tune
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into the program!
You might be wondering at
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this point whether
or not you should watch
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this program... Let
me tell you. You cannot
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afford to miss it.
Talk about inspiration and
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God's divine
guidance, turning tragedy into
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triumph and
changing the course of human
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history for the glory
of His name. Today, you're
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going to hear about
that and so much more with
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our guest today.
And so, take the time to
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just sit back, invite
your friends and family, and we
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know the Lord is going
to bless. Thank you for your
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prayers and your financial
support of this network
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that continues to go
and grow as we get ready
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for the coming of our Lord.
I'm going to go right ahead
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and introduce our
guest today, because he has a
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story to tell!-and I
mean a STORY. You've heard
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stories; but today,
I'm sure this one would
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inspire you and
take your spiritual walk
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with Christ to
another level. Brother Moses,
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Moses Brown, good
to have you here today.
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- It's also good to be
with you, Pastor. - Yes.
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I can call you Dr.
Moses Brown because you have
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your PhD-we'll talk
about that in a moment-and the
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guiding of your
life; but it's so good to
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get a chance to sit
down and converse and to walk
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through your life story.
We've been in many circles
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before-together in the
music circles-but this is
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a privilege to get
a chance to sit down
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and find out more
about you and look at some of
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the affinities that
the Lord has allowed us to
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share. But for our viewing
and listening audience, kind
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of tell them who you
are, where you're from, and
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what you do right now.
- Well, I am from Tampa,
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Florida-born there in
Plant City, Florida. I
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serve as a chaplain, the
head chaplain for Florida
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Hospital Connerton. I'm
on the pastoral staff of
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Mt. Calvary, and I'm
the founder of Feed Our
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Children Ministries.
- Okay. And it's good
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to have you here
today. We have quite a journey
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to walk through,
because I'm seeing you now in a
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completely different
light. My wife had a chance to
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talk to you and the privilege
of interviewing you on 3ABN
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Radio; and when she
came home and told me some of
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your story... I mean, I
teared up, realizing that
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the journey that the
Lord has taken you on
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has a lot of similarities
with mine. We're not
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going to tell my
story today; we're going to
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tell your story,
and we're going to dive
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right in so that
our audience could go on
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this journey with you to
see the wonderful providence of
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God. Let's dive into
the beginning, and I'll turn
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it over to you. -
Well, it started off with a
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girl by the name
Cherry. At 13 years old, she had
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lost her parents there
in Manning, South Carolina.
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Set of twins; her twin
sister's name was Trudy.
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And when her parents died,
she had to move in with her
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older sister there
in Hallandale, Florida.
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They migrated down to
Hallandale, Florida, and
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she was still one of
those who loved to go to church.
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She was one who went to
Sunday school. Her daddy
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was a Baptist
preacher there in Manning. And
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while she was going to church
there, that particular Sunday-
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it was on a hot
August day-she was walking
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home from a BTU
service that they had. And as
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she was walking
home, one of the deacons
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invited her to take
a ride with her to go
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home. She was a little
reluctant at first; and
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she decided, "Well,
he's a man of authority; he
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was a deacon," and
also one of the first police
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officers there in
that city. She got in the
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car, and she still was
a little reluctant...but
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she said, "I can
trust him." But that trust
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turned into
tragedy. At that point, while
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they were driving towards
her house, he suddenly made
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a turn that was in a
different direction. And
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she said, "Why are
you taking me this way?"
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And he indicated to her,
"Listen, I don't want you
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to- just look at
this new house I got." He
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was a builder, also,
and he had a beautiful home
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that he was building.
He's like, "I just want
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to take you around
so you can at least see
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what my house looks like."
And so as they were walking
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through that
house... She said when she got
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to the bedroom area,
his whole demeanor changed,
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and that's where he took
advantage of her, and her
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life never had been the
same since. She said she
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didn't think she was
pregnant, because she
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was fighting through that
thing...so she didn't really
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think really
anything happened. But as it
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came out, a few
months later, her sister was
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looking at her and
she said, "Cherry, you are
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pregnant!" And she
didn't know what to do, 'cause
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at that time, she was
just a child, herself. She just
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left it in God's
hands. She kept it silent from
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her older sisters
first. But in the interim of
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that, they had to suddenly
move from Hallandale to a
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place called Plant City
(which is about four hours
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away), because her older
sister's husband had gotten
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in some kind of gambling,
disputing... They had to
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get out of town, quickly.
But it was still the providence
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of God that God was
navigating this whole
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thing all the way through,
because in Plant City is
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where she decided she
wanted to have her baby...
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and she turned 14 at
that time. She told her older
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sisters that, "I want
to have my baby. I want
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to keep my baby." But
to the surprise to her...
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And so she said,
"No, you can't have that
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child here! We're
barely feeding YOU! How are
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we going to feed you
with the little money we have
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with just beans and
rice and..." And her husband
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had a gambling debt and
they didn't know what to
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do. She said, "And
there is somebody that we know
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in town, and they can
kinda clear this whole
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thing up so you don't
have to go through this.
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You don't want to have
to live with this thing."
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And she said, "If you
go down to this certain
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house, back in the ghetto
back there, certainly, they
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knew how to do abortions."
And she didn't know what
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to do. She said,
"Oh, God, this is not what
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I want to do in my
heart." But they told her that,
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"You cannot bring
the baby back here." She
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said, "If you want
to keep your baby, you
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have to find
somewhere where you AND the baby
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can stay." She said,
"The only other thing you can
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do is just leave
that child there." And so,
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she was thinking, and
she decided that, "Well,
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I have no money; I
have no other options." And
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so, she was given
that address to go and get
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rid of the child.
And while she was walking
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down that way, Pastor
John, she heard a voice,
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like an epiphany came
over her and said, "In
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all your ways, acknowledge
Me." She remembered those
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scriptures; that's
why it's good to keep your
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children in Sabbath
school and church school, 'cause
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those scriptures came
back to her: "In all your
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ways, acknowledge me,
and I will direct your
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path. Trust in the
Lord with all your heart and
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lean not upon your own
understanding." And she
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knew that voice; even
as a child, she knew that
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voice. See, that's
the voice of Jesus. But
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still, she didn't see
any way that she could
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keep this child. It
was just overwhelming for
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her. And she thought
in her mind, "I gotta
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go through this," so
she kept moving 'cause she
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had no other
answers. But when she put her
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hand on the door,
she said that, "I heard a
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distinct voice: 'If
you will let Me have this
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child, I will be
its Father.'" And right
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then, she knew she
can trust Him where she
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couldn't trace Him. And
she put it in God's hands,
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and she turned away with
an expression of joy that
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she had never had before,
and she walked back home,
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feeling good, because
she could tell her sisters
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that God was going to
take care of that child. But to
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her surprise when she
got back home and told
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them that she was
going to keep her child, they
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came back with the same
scenario. "You can't have
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that child here." So
she knew there was only
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one option left...to
leave the child in the hospital.
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She went down to the
South Florida Baptist
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Hospital there in Plant
City. And as a 14-year-old girl
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trying to figure
out, you know, "Do I want
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to do the will of
God?" It's something about
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when you do the will
of God... Look, I believe
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if it's God's will,
it's God's bill. - That's
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right. [laughter] I
like that; I like that. - And
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He has never missed a
payment. And she realized
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that He had the tab for
this. And so while she was
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in the hospital, she
didn't know where to turn to.
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But after the baby was
born, she told the doctors-
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she said, "Doctor,
do you know anybody who
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could take care of
my baby? I don't want to
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just throw it into
the system. Do you know
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any Christian people?"
And first, he was saying,
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"I don't want to get
into this," you know?
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He was a Caucasian doctor,
and he said, "I don't wanna
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really get into those
kinds of things; that's
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something for you to
handle." But she said
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as he was walking
out the door, he heard a
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voice, himself.
This is what God?
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He said he would change
the hearts of kings, and
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then He put it on
his head a lady's name by
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the name of Annette
LeRoy Brown. He knew they keep
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kids! They kept
kids, and they were very
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loving parents, 'cause
they adopted two children from
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the Adventist Soul
Career Orphanage there.
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They had a couple
other kids, but never had any
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kids of their own;
never had any babies at all.
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He was led to call
them. When he called them,
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he said, "We got a child
down here that the mother
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wants it to be in
a Christian home. Do
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you want to come and
just investigate it before
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it goes into the
system?" And they came down, and
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God inspired them to
stand there. They took the child
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in his hand (which was
me!) and they said, "I'm
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going to name this
child Moses Samuel Brown,"
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she said, "because this
child's coming out of the
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bulrushes, and I know
this child is for us."
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And they took me and they
gave me an opportunity that
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I would never have gotten-
I would've never got- I feel
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like I'm sitting
here today because it was
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the decision that took
place years ago in those
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rooms that somebody trusted
God...trusted God in the midst
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of the storm, and
they refused to let a good
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storm go to waste, 'cause
I gotta take this and make
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something out of it. And
there, from that opportunity
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that two mothers made a
decision: one made a decision
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to let me live, and the other
one made a decision to show
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me how to live. And
through that, my life had been
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navigated all the way
to this point through their
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influence. And I
stand here today, saying,
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Pastor John, that I'm
so glad that little girl,
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Cherry, when she had
me... She didn't know exactly
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how it was going to turn
out, but this is what God
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had in mind-me sitting
here, talking to you today.
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- Wow. - This is what
God had in mind when I
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move around and witness
to people in evangelism.
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The devil should've took
me a long time ago... It's
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too late now. -
That's right. - He should've
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took me out then, but
he couldn't do anything
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with it. But I'm here
today on the testimony
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of those who believe
that God can do anything
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through any tragic situation.
He took a mess, and He made
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a miracle. That's me.
- You know, I think...
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I want to pause right
here and just play that song.
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You know, you are not
only a person that God
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has rescued...
There's so much in your story;
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I'm kind of holding
you back that I can see is
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a part of the way
that God leads, even in my
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life-you know, the way
that your life began...
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the way that my
life began. But God has a
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plan! He doesn't take
tragedies and chalk 'em
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up as a disaster: "I
can't do anything with
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this." And as you listen
to this song that brother
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Moses Brown is going to
sing, "It Is Well with My
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Soul," I want you to
know that- I don't know where
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you are right now, and
you may be a young person
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right now at that very same
intersection, wondering, "What
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am I going to do? I'm
pregnant. I don't know
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what to do. Where's my
life headed?" I want you
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to know Moses' life
is a testament that you
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don't have to worry. God's...
What'd you say about the
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bill? - If it's God's
will, it's God's bill.
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- If it's God's will,
it's God's bill; and I
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want you to listen to this
song "It Is Well with My Soul,"
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because it is well with
his soul, it is well with MY
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soul. I pray as you listen
to this song, it will be well
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with your soul.
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When peace like a
river attendeth my way
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When sorrows
like sea billows roll
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Whatever my lot,
thou hast taught me to say
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It is well; it
is well with my soul
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It is well
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With my soul
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Oh, it is well; it
is well with my soul
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Oh, Lord haste the day
when Thy faith shall be sight
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And the clouds be
rolled back as a scroll
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And the trump, it shall sound,
and the Lord shall descend
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Even so, it was
well with my soul
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Is it well
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With your soul?
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Is it well; is it
well with your soul?
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It is well
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With my soul
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Yes, it is.
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It is well; it is well
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With my soul
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My soul
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My soul
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- Praise the Lord.
It is well with brother
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Moses Brown's soul, and
I pray that it is also well
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with yours. Tell us about
the person that accompanied
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you on the piano! - That
was my dear, lovely wife,
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Jeanette ? Brown.
She is an accompaniment
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musician, and...
Ah, goodness-I couldn't
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live without her.
[laughter] - And what an amazing
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beginning; and I know
that- I'm going to say
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this to our audience
that's listening and watching;
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we'll give you information
later on in the program
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how you can invite
brother Moses Brown. I call him
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brother Moses Brown
although you are very
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qualified; you have
your M.Div., you have your
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PhD, and God has
qualified you in so many ways-
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educationally and spiritually-
but you want to hear the
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full-blown story.
You want to invite him to
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come, he and his wife,
to share the tremendous
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journey that he has
been on ever since the Lord
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stepped in and rescued
him. What a name-Moses. Taken
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from the bulrushes. Now,
you have this opportunity
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through a woman who
God impressed her heart to
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bring you in, but
now you're growing up as
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a teenager. When you
found out about how your life
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began, were there any
kind of emotional challenges
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there? Tell us about
some of that, because people
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sometimes don't see that
side of it. Sometimes they
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see angry young kids, or
children that are rebellious,
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but they don't understand
behind it, there's a tapestry.
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- Well, things were
going pretty well. As a child,
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I was the baby. And
you know, my other siblings
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there said I was
spoiled. [laughter] But I didn't
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think I was spoiled,
but I was really loved by
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Annette and LeRoy
Brown was the day I
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was- LeRoy Brown, a
name like that... But they
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gave me so much love that
I didn't even notice anything
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that was off from parents
who had their own children.
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- They filled the gap
beautifully. - Very good.
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My name was Brown, and
I just assumed that I kind
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of looked like
LeRoy Brown. But as I got
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older, there were relatives
that were around, and you
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hear different things
that drop here and there, and
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then I finally realized that
this is something different.
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And then, when my mother
explained to me what happened,
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I didn't see it like they
saw it; I saw it as betrayal. I
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saw it as... I said,
"You lied to me. I thought I
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was a Brown," and I
was actually a Rogers- a
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Scott...wherever they
went with it. I said, "What
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kind of stuff is
this?" and I was angry at
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everyone in the whole
scenario, and I was angry
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at the woman that gave me
away, because I discovered
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later that she had
got remarried and didn't
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understand what that was
about till I found out that
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she got remarried 'cause
she got married to someone
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who was very abusive,
'cause she was trying to
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find security. She had no
job, no nothing; and it was
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a man that would beat
her unmercifully...and the
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children. I looked
into that situation, and I
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said, "Oh, God." And
she's the one who told me that,
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"If I had kept you, most
likely, he would've killed
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you." - Hm. - And that
didn't even register like
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it should have at
the time. I looked at the
00:20:18.01\00:20:21.78
mother who gave me
away, the one who kept me, and
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those scenarios seemed to
add up. "You should've kept
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me and kept me where I
could've been with you,
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my birth mother." -
That longing to be with your
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birth mother. -
That longing that I had-
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actually, "Who was my
dad!?" Every man wants to know
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who his father is. -
That's right. - And she pointed
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out the fact- that's
when she explained to me that,
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"You came into a situation
where there was an abuse
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situation with a man
that took advantage of me."
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And that didn't register
deep, but then I knew that
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there was a man that I
had his DNA in me. When I
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was going to Forest
Lake Academy, we were singing
00:21:07.60\00:21:09.93
down in that area of
Hallandale, and I went
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there. And while we were
singing, I'd say, "I'm going to
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call these numbers of
this man that was name-
00:21:16.24\00:21:20.08
whose last name was Scott,
and I looked up the numbers.
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When I got to one of
the numbers, I said, "Well,
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that person died just
a few weeks ago, and we
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had his funeral." -
Hm! - That was my father.
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And I realized right then
that God did not want that
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to come across together,
and He wanted to block it.
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And I couldn't understand
it, but I realized that when
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God told my mother
that He would be my father,
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He said, "I'm a jealous
God," and He didn't want
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anything to interfere
for the path He already laid
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out for me. And that was
like a hindrance that I felt
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that even God betrayed
me at that point, I thought.
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And then, as I left
Forest Lake and I was kind of
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moving around and
trying to figure myself out, he
00:22:08.29\00:22:11.69
spoke to me; he
said, "Listen- if you would
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give Me your life, if
you would take My hand," He
00:22:14.73\00:22:18.57
said, "you will realize
that it was My hand that
00:22:18.70\00:22:21.77
put you in that hospital
there in Plant City where
00:22:21.84\00:22:26.47
that woman could come
and get you- I put you
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into a Seventh-day
Adventist home." He
00:22:29.41\00:22:32.78
said, "I started you
where I wanted you. And because
00:22:32.88\00:22:35.88
of that, I gave you
a place where you can
00:22:35.95\00:22:38.49
have covering and
that you can go in the path
00:22:38.59\00:22:41.36
that I have already mapped
out for you." He said, "You
00:22:41.42\00:22:44.29
gotta trust me in
this, Moses. You gotta trust
00:22:44.33\00:22:46.09
me in this." And when I
understood that, I realized-
00:22:46.16\00:22:50.30
when I realized and TRULY
realized that it was the hand
00:22:50.40\00:22:53.67
of God that was navigating this
messed up life, I surrendered
00:22:53.70\00:22:57.74
all to Him and I gave it
to Him. I said, "Lord, take
00:22:57.84\00:23:00.68
this mess..." I said,
"Take this mess of mine,"
00:23:00.78\00:23:07.45
'cause I didn't know what
to do with it, John; I didn't
00:23:08.38\00:23:09.98
know what to do, and I
felt that I could trust Him.
00:23:10.09\00:23:13.96
He said, "I will put you
in places where you could
00:23:14.06\00:23:17.23
never go, and I will
send you around the world." I
00:23:17.33\00:23:20.40
didn't understand that!
He said, "I will send you
00:23:20.50\00:23:22.96
around to preach this
gospel and I'll help you
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to comfort other people."
He said, "I need you to let
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go and forgive." And when
I forgave those who I felt
00:23:28.64\00:23:33.21
that did me wrong, I realized
they were not doing me wrong;
00:23:33.34\00:23:39.58
they were helping me, to
put my life in order, because
00:23:39.71\00:23:45.42
the devil used to
whisper in my ear. He said, "How
00:23:45.52\00:23:47.99
can you be anything when
you came here accidentally!?
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How can you be-
you're a tragedy! You have no
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purpose; you were not
even meant to be! How could God
00:23:55.73\00:23:59.27
have an outline for you?
You should just"- he would
00:23:59.33\00:24:01.60
tell me, "You should take
your life 'cause you never
00:24:01.70\00:24:04.04
had one!" - Mm. - And
God had to whisper in my ears
00:24:04.14\00:24:09.34
when I hear those songs,
He says, "Peace be still,"
00:24:09.48\00:24:13.21
and I used to hear that
thing. "Peace be still."
00:24:13.82\00:24:16.05
And I found peace. I
found peace in trusting in Him.
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And today, I can say
that through that, everything
00:24:21.09\00:24:24.86
that God had promised me,
I found that He is one that
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keeps every promise.
I've learned one thing, Pastor
00:24:29.40\00:24:32.50
John: that if I
pursue His presence, He would
00:24:32.57\00:24:37.71
deliver His promise. - Okay,
wonderful; wonderful. - See,
00:24:37.77\00:24:41.78
I used to pursue the
promise-the things that
00:24:41.84\00:24:44.98
He said He was going to
do-but I wasn't pursuing
00:24:45.05\00:24:47.18
Him. But He had to rewind
the script and say, "Listen,
00:24:47.28\00:24:53.25
it's not the promise I
want you to be pursuing;
00:24:53.32\00:24:55.89
I want you to
pursue My presence." For in
00:24:55.96\00:24:59.29
His presence, I discovered
my purpose. - Mm. - See,
00:24:59.39\00:25:05.63
one thing the devil couldn't
mess with was the purpose
00:25:05.73\00:25:08.57
that God gave me. - Wow. -
He could get in the process,
00:25:08.67\00:25:11.77
'cause the process, you
can mingle it with all kinds
00:25:13.21\00:25:15.61
of things and try to discourage
me and all those other things
00:25:15.71\00:25:18.55
in the process, but it
was through prayer that pushed
00:25:18.65\00:25:22.28
me through this to get
to the purpose that God
00:25:22.35\00:25:24.95
had placed me here
for. - Wow. He hid you from
00:25:25.05\00:25:28.69
what could've been. - Yes.
- He put you in the cleft of
00:25:28.76\00:25:31.66
a rock so that you could
just get a glimpse of His
00:25:31.76\00:25:34.50
glory. - Oh, yes. - He
said, "Moses, if I didn't
00:25:34.60\00:25:37.03
hide you, your life would've
been a tragedy complete..."
00:25:37.07\00:25:40.34
But He hid you in the
cleft of the rock. That's
00:25:41.07\00:25:43.87
why when you sing that
song, which I'm going to
00:25:43.97\00:25:45.81
go to right now-"He Hideth
My Soul"-your life is a result
00:25:45.91\00:25:50.35
of Him hiding you from what
could've been. See, we don't
00:25:50.41\00:25:52.85
understand the way God
works; God works in ways
00:25:52.95\00:25:55.25
that are just mysterious
to us. But when we rewind
00:25:55.32\00:25:58.39
the tape of our lives,
we recognize, "He shielded
00:25:58.52\00:26:02.09
me at that moment. He
came in and rescued me!
00:26:02.16\00:26:05.06
I could've been the
child that was killed by this
00:26:05.16\00:26:07.23
man who was abusive to
my mother who had given
00:26:07.36\00:26:09.96
me up! He saved me from
that!" And we go back and
00:26:10.07\00:26:12.63
we realize, "I would
not have had it any other
00:26:12.70\00:26:14.57
way if I could rewind
this video tape." That song is
00:26:14.64\00:26:18.04
a wonderful song of ministry;
and as you listen to this song,
00:26:18.11\00:26:20.41
"He Hideth My Soul,"
recognize that you may
00:26:20.48\00:26:22.81
be going through some
places in your life where
00:26:22.88\00:26:26.72
you cannot understand
it! But the Lord is maybe
00:26:26.75\00:26:29.75
hiding YOUR soul so
that what could have been is
00:26:29.85\00:26:33.22
being prevented by His
providence and His love
00:26:33.36\00:26:35.86
for you. Listen to this
ministry, "He Hideth My Soul."
00:26:35.96\00:26:39.63
A wonderful
Savior is Jesus my Lord
00:26:57.35\00:27:05.22
A wonderful Savior to me
00:27:06.09\00:27:12.79
He hideth my soul in
the cleft of the rock
00:27:13.73\00:27:21.67
Where rivers of pleasures I see
00:27:22.34\00:27:29.84
A wonderful
Savior is Jesus my Lord
00:27:30.48\00:27:38.32
He taketh my burdens all away
00:27:39.09\00:27:45.39
He holdeth me up
and I shall not be moved
00:27:46.83\00:27:54.27
He giveth me strength for my day
00:27:54.77\00:28:02.18
He hideth my soul in
the cleft of the rock
00:28:02.81\00:28:09.98
Where rivers are
dry, thirsty lands
00:28:10.45\00:28:16.52
He hideth my life in
the depths of His love
00:28:17.86\00:28:25.80
And He covers me
there with His hands
00:28:26.03\00:28:32.37
Oh, He covers me
there with his hands
00:28:32.61\00:28:41.15
When clothed in His brightness,
transported I'll rise
00:28:45.92\00:28:53.73
To meet Him in clouds of the sky
00:28:54.20\00:29:00.60
His perfect
salvation, His wonderful love
00:29:01.17\00:29:08.31
I'll shout with
the millions on high
00:29:08.88\00:29:15.95
He hideth my soul in
the clefts of the rock
00:29:16.05\00:29:22.82
Where rivers are
dry, thirsty lands
00:29:23.46\00:29:28.90
Oh, He hideth my life
in the depths of His love
00:29:30.27\00:29:38.24
And He covers me
there with His hands
00:29:38.34\00:29:44.85
Oh- yes, He
covers me there... Mmm...
00:29:45.05\00:29:53.39
Oh, He'll cover you there...
00:29:54.29\00:29:58.69
Oh, He covered me there with His
00:30:01.56\00:30:09.57
hand!
00:30:09.67\00:30:18.68
- I know that as you
listen to that song, you know
00:30:24.32\00:30:26.19
that it is true: many of
us wouldn't be here today
00:30:26.29\00:30:29.12
if the Lord had not
hidden us from the tragedies of
00:30:29.22\00:30:32.43
life-in the cleft of
the rock where we see
00:30:32.53\00:30:34.86
His glory, and we'll
experience His protective
00:30:34.96\00:30:37.53
care. Isn't that wonderful?
- Yes. - Now, your life...
00:30:37.63\00:30:40.27
As you're unfolding this,
I'm sitting here... I'm kind
00:30:40.37\00:30:42.90
of like a balloon being
filled with water (please
00:30:43.00\00:30:45.24
don't stick me with
a pin; I'm gonna pop),
00:30:45.34\00:30:46.81
because your life is a
miracle. It's an amazing
00:30:47.74\00:30:49.28
story, and people are
being touched by that.
00:30:49.38\00:30:51.65
And I know there is
so much more, which I'm
00:30:51.75\00:30:53.08
going to say to the audience
we'll let you know how to
00:30:53.15\00:30:55.35
get in touch with Moses
and his wife, to invite them
00:30:55.45\00:30:58.35
to come to your community.
But now, the Lord brings
00:30:58.45\00:31:02.16
you beyond that angry
childhood-that childhood
00:31:02.22\00:31:06.29
that when you discovered
all these things that the
00:31:06.39\00:31:09.70
Lord hid you from,
you couldn't organize them
00:31:09.80\00:31:12.60
together. But you
get married, you grow up,
00:31:12.67\00:31:16.10
you have children of
your own, but another tragedy
00:31:16.17\00:31:19.21
is on the way. Tell us
about it. - It was while
00:31:19.31\00:31:22.58
I was doing a crusade,
and I just saw God move
00:31:22.68\00:31:28.38
like I've never seen
before there in Kenya,
00:31:28.45\00:31:31.19
in Kisumu. - Well,
show some of those pictures
00:31:31.29\00:31:34.26
later on. - Yes. And we
have other styles of the
00:31:34.36\00:31:36.69
people there, and I
got back from there- the
00:31:36.79\00:31:41.03
high of an experience with
Christ and then on March the
00:31:41.13\00:31:46.23
6th, 2007, one of my
daughters called me and
00:31:46.33\00:31:50.97
said, "Daddy, David
is dead." I was stunned.
00:31:51.04\00:31:56.68
My only son... He
was 21 years old; never
00:31:56.78\00:32:00.72
really got to the
bottom of it, but he was one of
00:32:00.85\00:32:03.79
the?. So many
different stories I got
00:32:03.82\00:32:06.65
from there-but I
just knew the bottom line:
00:32:06.76\00:32:09.02
he was dead at 21 years
old. Well, John, my life
00:32:09.12\00:32:14.20
changed at that very
moment, and I was there,
00:32:14.30\00:32:18.37
thinking; said, "Lord,
what could've happened?
00:32:18.47\00:32:20.40
That's my son-he had
a bright future ahead of
00:32:20.50\00:32:23.00
him!" She reminded me,
"David is dead." I looked
00:32:23.10\00:32:30.21
around and I said,
"Lord, this CAN'T be." I didn't
00:32:30.31\00:32:34.02
know how to handle
it. I mean, when a parent
00:32:34.12\00:32:36.38
loses a child, you
don't even comprehend how to
00:32:36.45\00:32:42.39
even juggle the different
things coming at you. That's
00:32:42.52\00:32:46.43
why when people say, "I
understand," I knew they
00:32:46.46\00:32:48.30
didn't, because you cannot
understand it until you lose
00:32:48.36\00:32:51.10
that child. - Mm. - And
God had to sit me down again,
00:32:51.17\00:32:55.07
and I had to ask,
"Lord, WHERE WERE YOU, Lord,
00:32:55.17\00:32:57.87
when You took my ONLY
child?" And He said, "I
00:32:57.97\00:33:02.61
was in the same place
I was when they took My
00:33:02.71\00:33:05.01
Son on Calvary." He
said, "I've never moved. I'm
00:33:05.08\00:33:09.78
still the same God."
I had to cope with that,
00:33:09.85\00:33:14.89
but I knew that if God
was in it...I can't understand
00:33:15.79\00:33:22.70
the sovereignty of
God, because He works in
00:33:22.76\00:33:26.57
mysterious ways. But I
knew that if God was in
00:33:26.70\00:33:30.87
it somehow-as Romans 8:28
said, "Everything will work
00:33:30.91\00:33:35.44
together for good to
those who love the Lord"-and I
00:33:35.51\00:33:38.78
sat there and said,
"Lord, I don't know how this is
00:33:38.88\00:33:41.28
going to come out, but
I'm trusting You, again, where
00:33:41.35\00:33:44.42
I cannot trace You." And
now that I learned how to
00:33:44.49\00:33:48.69
help others who are going
through similar experience,
00:33:49.72\00:33:52.86
who lost loved
ones, and some people are
00:33:52.96\00:33:56.80
maybe watching today
are defiant because God
00:33:56.90\00:34:00.17
took someone out of their
lives that they loved; but
00:34:00.27\00:34:03.51
I want you to know
today, wherever you are today,
00:34:03.61\00:34:07.18
God loves you, and He
has never forgotten you. You
00:34:07.28\00:34:11.88
have to hold onto every
scripture there is because
00:34:11.98\00:34:16.45
that's where you find
the peace that passes all
00:34:16.55\00:34:19.39
understanding. - That's
right. And you know what,
00:34:19.49\00:34:21.09
let me add a point here:
a lot of people think that
00:34:21.19\00:34:23.43
God is the One that
took them. - Yes. - But what
00:34:23.53\00:34:25.86
we're actually- necess-
saying is, "Why didn't God
00:34:25.96\00:34:27.83
prevent it?" is
usually what the question is.
00:34:27.86\00:34:30.33
"Why didn't He stop
it?" And if God were to step
00:34:30.43\00:34:33.17
into every scenario that
happens to us in this world,
00:34:33.23\00:34:36.24
this actual world would
be heaven. But the tragedies
00:34:36.34\00:34:39.81
come, and we look
back on these tragedies-
00:34:39.91\00:34:42.18
the loss of a child,
the loss of a mother, the
00:34:42.24\00:34:44.28
way that your life
was started. And we see at
00:34:45.41\00:34:48.45
these broken places the
sovereignty and the love
00:34:48.55\00:34:51.42
of God never, ever
wanes. He doesn't stop because
00:34:51.52\00:34:55.22
tragedy strikes us. If a
bullet hits us, He's still
00:34:55.29\00:34:58.56
the Healer. If we're
incarcerated, He's still
00:34:58.63\00:35:01.23
the One that brings
freedom to us in our
00:35:01.26\00:35:03.47
position of incarceration.
So, yeah-he allowed it
00:35:03.57\00:35:06.47
to happen, but He
wasn't the one that took your
00:35:06.53\00:35:09.07
child. The enemy once
again tried to shake your faith,
00:35:09.17\00:35:11.81
'cause he's the one
that is the murderer from the
00:35:12.41\00:35:14.51
very beginning. But something
came out of this that was
00:35:14.58\00:35:17.25
positive. You know,
being raised in a home where
00:35:17.35\00:35:21.02
there's hardly any
food, your mother having to
00:35:21.08\00:35:24.19
deal with the same,
your natural mom being told,
00:35:24.29\00:35:26.76
"Get rid of your
child; we can hardly even
00:35:26.86\00:35:28.66
feed you," the Lord
moved you to begin a ministry.
00:35:28.72\00:35:31.73
Let's talk about
that for a moment, which
00:35:31.79\00:35:33.50
just changed so many
lives. - Yes! It was...
00:35:33.60\00:35:36.40
I was home there in Tampa
area, and I just did a brief
00:35:36.46\00:35:43.57
time in the military.
I got back, and trying
00:35:43.67\00:35:46.94
to help my mother who
had taken care of me for
00:35:47.08\00:35:49.38
a while. And while I was
there, there was a shooting
00:35:49.48\00:35:51.51
there in the inner
city. At the time, I was doing
00:35:51.61\00:35:54.88
encouragement on the
radio at that time, and
00:35:54.98\00:35:58.12
the police department
asked me would I come out and
00:35:58.22\00:36:00.19
talk to the kids that
were there who watched this
00:36:00.22\00:36:04.39
person get shot down in
the parking lot while she
00:36:04.46\00:36:08.36
was begging for her life.
I went out in the community,
00:36:08.46\00:36:13.87
and...sometimes, you don't
realize how tragically it hits
00:36:13.97\00:36:18.87
people until you're out
there with them. I was standing
00:36:19.01\00:36:23.45
around and started talking
to the kids and trying to
00:36:23.55\00:36:25.78
encourage them. And brother
John, when I started opening
00:36:25.85\00:36:29.35
programs and trying to
bring some things in there,
00:36:29.45\00:36:31.59
they started asking me-
'cause I'd bring little snacks
00:36:31.69\00:36:33.46
and we had little
talks- and one boy said, "Hey,
00:36:33.49\00:36:36.39
can I have one of
those Thanksgiving meals that
00:36:36.52\00:36:39.49
they have on television?"
And I said, "What do you
00:36:39.63\00:36:42.63
mean?" "I want one of
those Thanksgiving meals
00:36:42.73\00:36:45.37
they have on TV, like
the turkey and all the
00:36:45.47\00:36:47.20
other things." And I
said, "Well, what did you have
00:36:47.30\00:36:50.87
for Thanksgiving
last year?" He said, "We
00:36:50.97\00:36:53.07
had a hotdog and some
chips." And right then,
00:36:53.17\00:36:57.41
the Lord said, "Make it
happen." I said, "You go
00:36:57.45\00:37:00.95
and get your friends, and
I'll ask the people in the
00:37:01.05\00:37:03.12
community to bring food."
We set up the whole tables
00:37:03.22\00:37:08.06
with food. And when
they came out, I noticed that
00:37:08.16\00:37:12.43
he had more friends than
I anticipated. [laughter]
00:37:12.49\00:37:15.10
We had set up for about
100, but it was about 400
00:37:15.83\00:37:19.57
and some people there.
- What! - That was lined
00:37:19.67\00:37:21.80
up down the road.
And the cameras came out!
00:37:21.87\00:37:24.81
The media came out. They
just wanted to see this thing
00:37:24.87\00:37:27.64
was happening, 'cause
with the tragedy of the young
00:37:27.74\00:37:30.38
lady... And some of the people
who were working with me said,
00:37:30.48\00:37:33.62
"Don't do this, because
you will get embarrassed!"
00:37:33.72\00:37:35.88
But then I had to go back
to that same thing: if it's
00:37:37.39\00:37:39.15
God's will, it's God's
bill. - That's right; I
00:37:39.25\00:37:41.36
like that. - And I remember that
He did it in the scriptures with
00:37:41.42\00:37:44.36
fish and the loaves of bread,
and I said, "That's the same
00:37:44.49\00:37:47.83
God that was there! He's
here! That is not a fantasy
00:37:47.86\00:37:51.43
book; that Book transcends
all the way throughout time."
00:37:51.50\00:37:55.50
And I said, "I'm trusting
God in this scenario to make
00:37:55.60\00:37:59.07
it happen." I said,
"This is not MY reputation;
00:37:59.17\00:38:01.64
it's His." - That's
right. - See, a lot of the time,
00:38:01.74\00:38:03.81
we get messed up with
our reputation, but when
00:38:03.88\00:38:06.08
I'm doing something for
God, it's all on Him. - And
00:38:06.15\00:38:09.48
what happened? How did
the people get fed? - The
00:38:09.55\00:38:11.45
people went through the
line, everyone went through
00:38:11.52\00:38:14.09
the line, and in our community,
people usually bring Tupperware
00:38:14.19\00:38:18.89
and foil. I mean,
they want something to take
00:38:18.96\00:38:21.30
home with them, and I
was looking at that. You
00:38:21.36\00:38:23.47
can't tell them,
"Don't do it"; but when they
00:38:23.50\00:38:25.33
got done, it was
enough food left over, brother
00:38:25.40\00:38:29.04
John, that they could
take TWO servings with them.
00:38:29.14\00:38:32.07
- That's right. - So
when God showed up, He also
00:38:32.17\00:38:34.94
showed out. - That's
right. Twelve baskets of?
00:38:35.04\00:38:36.98
- Yes! - You have
some pictures that connect
00:38:37.08\00:38:39.38
to that. I want to
have them walk through these
00:38:39.48\00:38:41.58
pictures with your Feed
the Children organization.
00:38:41.68\00:38:44.35
Let's look at some
of those. Explain to us
00:38:44.42\00:38:46.29
what we're going to be
seeing here. - These are
00:38:46.35\00:38:48.79
some kids that our
ministry spread out into Kenya,
00:38:48.89\00:38:53.53
so when I started going
preaching in crusades, I started
00:38:53.60\00:38:55.73
taking Feed Our Children
Ministries in those areas, and
00:38:55.83\00:38:58.77
these are a lot of the
kids we were reaching out to and
00:38:58.83\00:39:00.70
some of the orphanages
there. Some of the families
00:39:00.80\00:39:03.74
in the communities
were, when they called us, one
00:39:03.84\00:39:07.11
of the things they
had to do- they had to go
00:39:07.21\00:39:08.54
through no red tape;
all they had to do was call,
00:39:08.58\00:39:10.08
and we'd bring out
gifts and food, AND we'd give
00:39:10.18\00:39:12.48
them literature-Seventh-day
Adventist literature. We may
00:39:12.58\00:39:16.82
not see them again, but
I believe I'll see them in
00:39:16.92\00:39:19.29
heaven. This is some
of the feedings that we do
00:39:19.42\00:39:21.69
during the Thanksgiving.
And people from- we
00:39:21.79\00:39:24.36
worked mainly with the
migrant families, and you'll
00:39:24.39\00:39:27.66
see some of them coming
up next. - Mm. - This is a
00:39:27.76\00:39:32.97
lady in the wheelchair as
she was sitting there, she
00:39:33.07\00:39:35.74
hadn't had anything for
a long time, and she was
00:39:35.84\00:39:39.34
thankful for the
food that we were bringing
00:39:39.44\00:39:41.08
to her. - Wow. - We
have huge community outreach
00:39:41.11\00:39:47.42
during the end-of-the-year
season, and we just had
00:39:47.52\00:39:51.12
a couple thousand people
there, and we were giving
00:39:51.22\00:39:54.32
out. One thing-I want
you to know-we've never
00:39:54.42\00:39:56.29
run out. - Amen. - Never-
from that time, I learned to
00:39:56.39\00:39:59.56
trust God that we'd never run
out. - God's will is God's bill.
00:39:59.66\00:40:02.30
- You can't deplete them.
Yes, it is. - I like that.
00:40:02.40\00:40:05.17
- We tried to run a
summer camp for the kids, and we
00:40:06.33\00:40:08.67
do the Vacation
Bible School for people who
00:40:08.74\00:40:11.01
don't have nowhere to
go, and we have good people
00:40:11.11\00:40:14.14
there that we can trust
them with those kids, and
00:40:14.24\00:40:16.04
they learn about
Christ Jesus. - Mhm. That's
00:40:16.14\00:40:19.38
amazing. But you know,
the Lord has done so many
00:40:19.51\00:40:21.68
things in your life; we're
just getting little snippets,
00:40:21.75\00:40:23.35
like snapshots, as
one person said many years
00:40:23.45\00:40:26.12
ago, of your life.
It's amazing how God turns
00:40:26.19\00:40:28.46
tragedy into triumph, and
I'm not going to forget that
00:40:28.56\00:40:31.93
anytime soon: "God's will
is God's bill." It's amazing;
00:40:31.99\00:40:37.00
while they are
clichés, they are true! - Yes.
00:40:37.10\00:40:41.10
- That God... But the Lord
allowed you to rub shoulders,
00:40:41.20\00:40:43.20
because He'd not only
given you this ministry,
00:40:43.34\00:40:45.84
but then He got you
involved in preaching ministry-
00:40:45.91\00:40:48.34
evangelism! And you
had an opportunity to meet
00:40:48.44\00:40:51.31
a couple of people
that were a part of the 3ABN
00:40:51.41\00:40:55.05
family: brother- Little
Richard! You had a chance
00:40:55.12\00:40:57.65
to minister to him. Talk
about that briefly. - Just
00:40:57.75\00:40:59.79
before I went to Oakwood,
I was in LaGrange, Georgia.
00:40:59.89\00:41:02.99
We used to do something called
"Dark County Evangelism," and
00:41:03.06\00:41:06.36
they brought in this
man named Little Richard who
00:41:07.76\00:41:10.63
I didn't know. "Come on,
let us listen to things."
00:41:10.73\00:41:14.00
I was listening to Del
Decker most of the time. And
00:41:14.10\00:41:16.07
during that time, we were
just kind of seeing him walk
00:41:16.14\00:41:20.44
up, I saw these cameras
come up, and I said, "What's
00:41:20.54\00:41:24.11
going on? Who's this?"
They said, "It's Little
00:41:24.21\00:41:25.78
Richard." [laughter] And
he came in with his entourage,
00:41:25.88\00:41:29.72
and he sung in the
tent that night. I was over
00:41:29.78\00:41:34.66
the movie for that?
effort. When he brought
00:41:34.76\00:41:38.33
him in, he asked me, he
said, "Listen, on weekends,
00:41:38.43\00:41:40.46
when you get a chance
from school, come on out
00:41:40.56\00:41:42.26
and sing with me!"
And that's when he was
00:41:42.33\00:41:44.67
preaching. - Okay! - And
so, I thought he was just
00:41:44.73\00:41:47.00
a rock star preacher, and
found out that he was this
00:41:47.07\00:41:51.94
big superstar. I traveled
around with him for years-
00:41:52.01\00:41:55.68
got to see people
who... You know, sometimes you
00:41:55.74\00:41:59.81
see people in a whole
different genre, and you
00:41:59.85\00:42:01.58
realize that they're
just people, too. And when he
00:42:01.65\00:42:04.92
was in an accident, I
saw these stars coming up to
00:42:05.02\00:42:07.06
his room, and I saw
how God wanted to use him
00:42:07.16\00:42:11.59
to reach them. -
That's right. - And many that
00:42:11.69\00:42:15.23
have never heard this
truth, this three angels'
00:42:15.36\00:42:18.13
message, got it because
he gives out those books
00:42:18.23\00:42:21.04
everywhere he goes. - That's
right. Every day, he does that.
00:42:21.14\00:42:23.27
But you've also been
involved in ministry-
00:42:23.37\00:42:25.44
a lot of ministry events.
We're going to walk through
00:42:25.54\00:42:28.21
some of those pictures
and have you explain to
00:42:28.31\00:42:29.81
the audience, and even
those who are on the radio,
00:42:29.88\00:42:32.35
give a little detail
so they can understand
00:42:32.48\00:42:34.62
what we're seeing
here, because God has taken
00:42:34.65\00:42:36.32
you places preaching
in different parts of our-
00:42:36.42\00:42:38.59
baptizing, and so
many different things. The
00:42:38.69\00:42:41.62
multi-faceted blessing
of God is still anointing
00:42:41.69\00:42:46.06
your life and your wife's
life and making a difference
00:42:46.13\00:42:48.33
to thousands. Explain
what we're seeing right
00:42:48.43\00:42:50.60
here in this picture.
- Oh, this is there in?.
00:42:50.70\00:42:54.34
The whole conference wanted
to have an evangelistic crusade,
00:42:54.44\00:42:59.67
and I was in that part.
We baptized over 20-some
00:42:59.77\00:43:03.78
people just when
that week we were there.
00:43:03.88\00:43:05.38
And this is what it's
all about, brother John, just
00:43:07.32\00:43:10.12
bringing them to that
foot of the cross through the
00:43:10.22\00:43:13.25
pool. That was some
of the men that we were
00:43:13.36\00:43:16.76
baptizing. Good to
see men baptized! And in
00:43:16.86\00:43:20.00
that area, Curso, they
speak a different language;
00:43:20.10\00:43:22.86
so when you're preaching,
it's good to have somebody
00:43:22.93\00:43:25.47
who can preach with you-
translator that can preach.
00:43:25.57\00:43:29.70
- Ah, I see; the translator's
preaching there, too.
00:43:29.80\00:43:31.14
- And this is in Kenya-
Kisumu. We had thousands
00:43:31.21\00:43:35.01
of people to come
out there, and we were in
00:43:35.08\00:43:36.91
the stadium out
there. We just saw many give
00:43:37.01\00:43:40.62
their lives to Christ
in the baptism that we
00:43:40.72\00:43:42.45
had there with 300-some
souls. - Mm. - This is in
00:43:42.55\00:43:46.72
Ethiopia, and these are
the souls that were baptized
00:43:46.76\00:43:51.03
there. If you're watching in
Ethiopia and you see yourself
00:43:51.13\00:43:54.40
there, you oughta
give a shout right now how
00:43:54.50\00:43:57.70
God has done miraculous
things in your life. - I see
00:43:57.80\00:43:59.90
you out in the crowd there.
- Yeah, I'm right there in the
00:44:00.07\00:44:01.40
middle. [laughter] This
is in Panama! Many places I
00:44:01.44\00:44:06.57
would go, when they wanted
a black preacher to come along
00:44:06.68\00:44:11.85
in some places-and
this was in Panama, where
00:44:11.91\00:44:15.05
Elder Faulkenberg
called me up and sent me down
00:44:15.15\00:44:18.42
there to preach in
that area-couldn't speak a
00:44:18.49\00:44:21.22
lick of Spanish! I knew
"gloria Dios," but there,
00:44:21.32\00:44:25.79
God had showed Himself
in that area there in Panama
00:44:26.56\00:44:29.70
with the baptism.
Just left there in Guyana-
00:44:29.76\00:44:33.50
Linden, Guyana. Went
there twice; two churches
00:44:33.60\00:44:37.11
came out of that, and
this was our last time
00:44:37.27\00:44:39.47
there. We just saw these
beautiful souls from revival
00:44:39.57\00:44:41.98
there in Guyana. -
Mm. It's amazing what the
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Lord does. He does it
continuously. And when
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you go back-and I wanna
just say to the listening and
00:44:49.12\00:44:51.45
viewing audience-when you
go back and look at how your
00:44:51.55\00:44:53.32
life begins, you
could never tell what fruit
00:44:53.36\00:44:57.86
or what plant is going
to come from that seed.
00:44:57.96\00:45:00.93
You could look at that
mustard seed and realize
00:45:01.50\00:45:03.23
it's so tiny, but it's
a symbol of that little
00:45:03.37\00:45:06.43
spark of faith; and your
life has been just replete
00:45:06.50\00:45:09.14
and filled with so many
stories of God moving in
00:45:09.24\00:45:13.17
providential ways. And
right now, you minister;
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you have a couple of
CDs. Talk about that, and you
00:45:15.88\00:45:18.48
use that in the ministry
there at the Florida hospital.
00:45:18.58\00:45:21.72
- Yes. I'm fortunately
the head chaplain for
00:45:21.82\00:45:25.15
there at Florida Hospital
Connerton, and serve also
00:45:25.25\00:45:28.09
at Florida Hospital Tampa
and just ministering to many
00:45:28.19\00:45:31.49
people who are on
their dying beds, are going
00:45:31.59\00:45:34.60
through life-changing scenarios
through health, catastrophic
00:45:34.66\00:45:39.53
health situations... I
sing to them, and it's like when
00:45:39.60\00:45:45.34
David was singing to
the Lord. There's something
00:45:45.47\00:45:49.21
about music that transcends into
a soul that's been ruptured,
00:45:49.31\00:45:53.21
and just hearing those
songs brings them comfort,
00:45:53.31\00:45:56.58
so I put a list of songs
of hymns. I call it, "Healing
00:45:56.69\00:46:00.09
Hymns," and then get
it through the Adventist
00:46:00.19\00:46:03.69
Book Center. And there,
I just proclaim God's Word
00:46:03.79\00:46:07.66
through music. - We
could also give the website for
00:46:07.76\00:46:10.47
your ministry, Feed Our
Children, and we'll give
00:46:10.57\00:46:13.74
that in just a
moment. But something... There
00:46:13.77\00:46:16.00
was a tragedy that happened
in Florida not too long ago...
00:46:16.10\00:46:18.61
Helena Ramsay. I know
the young lady, because I was
00:46:19.94\00:46:22.91
able to interview her
good friend who was a family
00:46:23.01\00:46:27.85
acquaintance. They were
close friends, and she and
00:46:27.95\00:46:32.49
her friend- her friend
stood by her and watched
00:46:32.59\00:46:34.92
her when the tragedy
happened, and she was
00:46:35.06\00:46:38.26
shot. Talk about that.
You had a chance to meet the
00:46:38.36\00:46:42.50
family members. - Yes.
- And after you preached,
00:46:42.60\00:46:44.83
and it was in Tabernacle
SDA Church in Miami. Talk
00:46:44.90\00:46:48.14
about that for a
moment. - When the grandma came
00:46:48.20\00:46:50.27
up to me, she said,
"Please pray for my family." She
00:46:50.31\00:46:52.34
said, "We had our
granddaughter's funeral
00:46:52.44\00:46:55.68
the day before." And I
realized that this was one
00:46:55.78\00:47:00.28
of those kids that was
shot in the school there,
00:47:00.38\00:47:03.35
and in Douglas High School.
And so, I was leaving, and
00:47:03.45\00:47:08.72
the Lord inspired me to
go by the school that day,
00:47:08.82\00:47:11.93
'cause they were having
orientation, trying to bring
00:47:12.03\00:47:13.53
them back in. And
while I was there-you know,
00:47:13.56\00:47:16.33
being a chaplain-I just
wanted to offer my services.
00:47:16.43\00:47:19.07
And one of the Adventists
there, he is a counselor, and
00:47:19.17\00:47:23.41
so I was standing with
him and just praying for
00:47:23.51\00:47:26.01
those who were
there. I read something that
00:47:26.11\00:47:28.44
Danny Shelton wrote in
his book about the shooting
00:47:29.48\00:47:32.78
in different schools.
One thing he said was this:
00:47:32.88\00:47:36.89
"We focus on that, but
it's because we're breaking
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the Commandments." And
I realized that all these
00:47:41.22\00:47:44.99
tragedies come from, just like
Danny said- the Commandments
00:47:45.13\00:47:48.10
of God must be kept in order
for His peace to come back into
00:47:48.16\00:47:52.00
our country. And so, I
saw how these children were,
00:47:52.10\00:47:56.17
and many of them
still are, and our schools
00:47:56.27\00:47:59.01
are being just on
lockdown because the enemy is on
00:47:59.11\00:48:03.78
attack. I was instrumental
in trying to bring some healing
00:48:03.88\00:48:08.52
to a lot of those that
I met there, that I was
00:48:08.62\00:48:11.02
praying for them. And I
found out that-"you saved
00:48:11.09\00:48:14.22
my people if we pray, He
will bring healing." And so
00:48:14.32\00:48:16.96
while I was there, I
saw God move through the
00:48:17.06\00:48:20.03
prayers of giving
those who wanted to have some
00:48:20.13\00:48:22.60
type of way out understanding.
I was able to cope with that
00:48:22.70\00:48:26.33
because of my past experience
with my son. I knew what those
00:48:26.43\00:48:33.41
families were
feeling, because by losing my
00:48:33.58\00:48:38.15
son and HIS death, I
understood what it was
00:48:38.28\00:48:41.52
like to walk by that bedroom
at night and look in that room
00:48:41.65\00:48:46.29
and looking for your
child and realizing they're not
00:48:46.35\00:48:48.79
there anymore. It just
grips at and tears your
00:48:48.86\00:48:53.06
heart out. But then the
more it tears your heart
00:48:53.13\00:48:55.60
out, the more you lean
into Christ, and He'll give
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you that peace. -
There's a passage you gave to me
00:48:59.20\00:49:01.80
before the program began
in Lamentations 3:37. Share
00:49:01.90\00:49:04.94
that with our audience
right now. Should I read
00:49:05.04\00:49:07.68
and then you want
to explain that to us?
00:49:07.78\00:49:09.38
- You read it, 'cause I
have my version of saying
00:49:09.44\00:49:11.45
it. - Okay. Well, use
your version of saying
00:49:11.51\00:49:13.45
it. I love the way that
you include that in your
00:49:13.55\00:49:15.02
life. I was reading that
text in Lamentations 3:37.
00:49:15.08\00:49:18.65
It says, "Who can speak
it in your life and it comes
00:49:18.75\00:49:22.89
to pass if God has
not commanded it?" - Mm.
00:49:22.96\00:49:27.23
- I had to resonate
with that word, because many
00:49:27.30\00:49:29.90
were speaking the can't-do
and "you're not able to do,"
00:49:30.07\00:49:34.24
and "you don't have enough
finance to do it," and "you're
00:49:34.34\00:49:36.00
not in the right place to
do it," "you don't have the
00:49:36.07\00:49:39.84
right background," and
all these other things. But if
00:49:39.91\00:49:43.55
you get all those
"no's from a thousand people
00:49:43.65\00:49:46.48
and you get one million
"cant's from others, all
00:49:46.58\00:49:50.82
I need was one "can" from
God, and that one "can" from
00:49:50.92\00:49:54.86
God... 'Cause if He had
not commanded it, I don't
00:49:54.96\00:49:57.43
worry about what other
people say. - That's right.
00:49:57.56\00:50:00.03
- I don't look at a
budget. I can do great things on
00:50:00.13\00:50:02.36
a 0 budget.
[laughter] 'Cause God can take 0
00:50:02.43\00:50:05.97
and make hero, so I'm
not confined to these things
00:50:06.03\00:50:10.07
that we have, because God
said, "I can handle this."
00:50:10.17\00:50:13.14
And so, that text has stayed
with me. Even though I had
00:50:13.24\00:50:17.05
all these things going
against me, and even life
00:50:17.15\00:50:19.48
dictated that "you shouldn't
be where you are," but I
00:50:19.61\00:50:22.98
think I'm sitting here
with you today-representing all
00:50:23.05\00:50:27.12
the children that could've
been here, that should've
00:50:27.22\00:50:30.19
been here, and may have
been here-but I hope that
00:50:30.29\00:50:34.13
from this point on,
there might be somebody out
00:50:34.20\00:50:36.90
there, sitting there
and you're looking at
00:50:37.00\00:50:39.13
this program, and you
say, "Should I keep my
00:50:39.20\00:50:41.24
child? Is it worth
it?" I want you to know that
00:50:41.30\00:50:43.97
it's worth it all. God
took a nothing like me,
00:50:44.07\00:50:47.91
and He turned my
life around. And I promise
00:50:47.98\00:50:51.01
you: if you put it
in His hands, He'll take
00:50:51.08\00:50:53.55
your tragedy and
He'll bring triumph. That's
00:50:53.65\00:50:56.72
what I want you to know
today. - That's right. And
00:50:56.82\00:50:58.89
you know, what a powerful
testimony-and we're JUST
00:50:58.99\00:51:01.36
getting started! So here
is the information. I know
00:51:01.46\00:51:04.26
you want to invite Moses
and his wife to your community.
00:51:04.36\00:51:08.06
Here is the information that you
need to make that connection.
00:51:08.16\00:51:11.70
- If you would like
to invite Pastor Moses
00:51:14.04\00:51:15.80
Brown to sing at your
church, or if the Holy
00:51:15.94\00:51:18.84
Spirit impresses you to
support his ministry, you
00:51:18.94\00:51:21.64
may contact him in a
variety of ways. Visit
00:51:21.74\00:51:24.61
FeedOurChildren.org
to find out how they
00:51:24.71\00:51:28.08
provide much-needed food
and care for children and
00:51:28.18\00:51:31.12
their families.
Their website, again, is
00:51:31.22\00:51:33.56
FeedOurChildren.org.
If you would like to call
00:51:33.66\00:51:37.39
them, dial (813) 784-1021;
or write to Feed Our Children
00:51:37.49\00:51:44.20
Ministries, Post Office Box
290415, Tampa, Florida 33687.
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