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Series Code: TDY
Program Code: TDY018033A
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00:01 I want to spend my life
00:07 Mending broken people 00:12 I want to spend my life 00:18 Removing pain 00:23 Lord, let my words 00:29 Heal a heart that hurts 00:34 I want to spend my life 00:40 Mending broken people 00:45 I want to spend my life 00:51 Mending broken people 01:10 Hello and welcome to another 3ABN Today program. 01:12 Thank you for joining us as you do each and every day. 01:16 So happy for my co-host here, Miss Yvonne. 01:18 Well, I'm happy to be here. 01:20 And we have some guests today that's not really guest, 01:22 they're family and they're co-workers. 01:25 But for television sake, 01:26 we'll say they're our guest today. 01:28 That means that we're gonna be interviewing them, right? 01:29 That's right. 01:31 We're gonna find out 01:32 a lot of information about them. 01:33 But we want to thank you first for your love 01:35 and your prayers and financial support of 3ABN. 01:38 We are dedicated, 01:40 our commission has been to take this gospel 01:42 of the kingdom into all the world. 01:44 So we've been literally dedicating our time, 01:47 our talents, your gifts, 01:48 whatever you give to 3ABN to support us 01:51 in taking an undiluted three angels' messages, 01:54 one that would counteract 01:55 the counterfeit into all the world. 01:58 But what I know that people like as they like to know 02:02 who are we supporting, who are we working with. 02:04 And so, while you may know Shelley and JD Quinn 02:08 for many years. 02:10 This program we found out 02:11 'cause we've done a few of the other co-workers here. 02:14 But we wanted to do something personal, 02:16 they see you preaching 02:18 or see you on Sabbath school programs 02:20 and what have you. 02:21 But sometimes we like to get back 02:23 and I think specially 02:24 the women probably more than the men, 02:26 but they want to get into the little details, 02:28 how do you guys meet and tell us, 02:31 you know, a lot of this personal information. 02:33 And, so why not? Yeah. 02:35 I think our viewers love to know 02:37 the behind the scenes things. 02:39 You know, so I think it's good to, 02:41 it's good to share that. 02:42 You know, I just have to tell you, 02:44 I'm really excited because I didn't realize, 02:46 it's probably been ten years 02:47 since I gave my personal testimony, 02:49 our testimony of how we came to 3ABN. 02:53 So I jotted down some kind of, just some dates, 02:56 the years how God developed it. 03:00 You know that Sister White says, 03:02 "We have nothing to fear for the future lest 03:04 we forget how God has led us in the past." 03:07 And it's just so amazing to revisit this idea 03:10 of how God got us here. 03:12 Absolutely. 03:13 And it's just that when you put it down on paper 03:15 and then you can see the progression of things 03:18 and just how God just had His hand in everything, 03:21 it's just amazing. 03:22 All right. 03:24 Well, before we go to that we have some music today. 03:26 And somebody that I really enjoy her music. 03:29 And her talents and her gifts and wonderful Christian lady. 03:32 I think it's Jennifer LaMountain. 03:34 And she's gonna be singing, "In Your Mercy". 04:13 In Your mercy 04:16 You have shown me 04:19 Your salvation 04:24 Undeserving of your favor 04:30 I am free 04:35 And I'll never be the same 04:41 All my life I will remain 04:47 In your mercy 04:51 Tender mercy shown 04:55 To me 05:04 In Your mercy 05:07 You have promised 05:09 To be near me 05:13 I am resting 05:17 In the shelter 05:20 Of Your wings 05:24 Every fear I leave behind 05:30 Every confidence 05:33 I find In Your mercy 05:40 Tender mercy shown 05:43 To me 05:47 So great is Your love 05:52 It is higher than the heavens 05:58 Your faithfulness reaches 06:03 The sky 06:06 Be exalted O Lord 06:12 Over all the earth 06:17 Let Your glory be seen 06:21 In my life 06:25 In my life 06:50 In Your mercy 06:54 You have given 06:57 Of Your life blood 07:02 One last heartbeat and redemption 07:07 Was complete 07:12 What a debt of love You paid 07:18 With Your death 07:21 My soul was saved 07:30 In Your mercy 07:35 Tender mercy 07:41 Shown to me 08:14 Amen. Beautiful. Oh, that was lovely. 08:17 You know, one of the things that I feel about Jennifer 08:20 is that she worships when she's singing. 08:24 And so she draws you into 08:27 that whole experience which is, 08:28 which is so different from performance. 08:31 You know, it's one thing to perform a song, 08:34 it's another to minister. 08:36 Absolutely. And to me Jennifer ministers. 08:37 So thank you, Jennifer. Beautiful. 08:39 And she has for so many years. 08:41 And just wonderful person, wonderful Christian, 08:44 and so we appreciate her so much. 08:46 Now today we have Shelley and JD Quinn 08:48 and so, Yvonne, you kind of... 08:50 I'm gonna kind of let you take some of these questions 08:53 'cause I know you want to get into personal thing, 08:55 relationships and all that so. 08:57 I do. I do. 08:58 Well, JD and I will probably do... 08:59 Yeah, we'll just start. 09:01 Let's pick a date and what we're talking about... 09:03 We're here anyway. Is it, then go like that. 09:05 Yeah. 09:07 Well, you know, the obvious thing to me 09:10 is you guys have such a wonderful relationship. 09:14 You know, whenever I talk to you, 09:16 you're telling me, 09:17 "Oh, JD and I were praying about this." 09:19 And it's just, it's so beautiful. 09:23 Have you always been a Christian, both of you? 09:28 Have you always been Christians? 09:30 Go ahead. Well, we... 09:32 I think that I grew up in a home 09:33 that believed in Jesus Christ, 09:35 I'm not gonna call it a Christian home per se. 09:38 But there was a belief in Jesus Christ. 09:40 I went to a New Testament church. 09:42 So I always loved Jesus, 09:44 but I didn't understand a lot of things 09:46 because you didn't really get into the Old Testament. 09:50 What's a New Testament church? 09:51 A New Testament church is basically one 09:53 that kind of feels that the Old Testament 09:56 is the old letter 09:57 that is no longer part or necessary. 10:01 You know, they don't understand 10:02 that 40% of the New Testament comes from the Old Testament. 10:04 Right, right, right. 10:06 And that is the only scriptures 10:09 that the apostles and Jesus 10:12 when they're talking about scripture, 10:13 they're referring to the Old Testament. 10:15 Right. 10:16 So if you don't have that understanding of the old, 10:20 I think the New Testament is revealed in the Old, 10:23 but the Old Testament is explained 10:25 in the New Testament. 10:26 So without that understanding, 10:28 I think you kind of end up skewed 10:32 in a certain direction. 10:34 What about you, JD? 10:35 Mine, I was raised an Adventist. 10:37 In fact my grandmother, 10:40 they were some of the first Adventists 10:41 who came in Central Texas. 10:43 We have a big cemetery outside of Central Texas 10:47 that have all the old pioneers in that time. 10:50 And so, and my grandfather like my brother and my father 10:55 and my aunt, they both had two 10:58 of their brother and sister 11:00 that were buried there, just babies, you know. 11:02 But they started the Adventist community. 11:04 And there was old place called Mage. 11:07 And then we settled in Central Texas, 11:10 around Coleman, Texas. 11:12 My grandfather loved the Lord. 11:15 He had his ways of doing things but he loved Jesus, 11:18 my grandmother was a lot quieter. 11:20 And then my aunt, 11:21 my brother, my father, my aunt, my aunt was a devote. 11:26 She was the cornerstone of Adventism in Central Texas 11:29 for many, many years. 11:31 And all she prayed, she prayed. 11:35 Like everybody named James, you go through the Jimmy stage, 11:38 you go through the Jim stage and finally you grew up 11:40 and be who you want to be, you know. 11:42 But she would always call me James 11:44 because that was, he was a disciple James. 11:49 And he says, you know, 11:50 "James, the Lord loves you, He's got His hand on your life. 11:55 When are you gonna turn your life around? 11:58 James, get it together, get it together, I mean." 12:01 You just gave us a hint that you were raised there 12:04 but you didn't certainly stayed there, you left. 12:06 And then Florence Detamore came 12:10 into the area, 1956. 12:13 And my father was reconverted. 12:17 And all of a sudden out of nowhere, 12:19 we then were gonna get a Christian education, 12:22 three of us little hungry birds, 12:23 you know, three of us children. 12:25 And so, then we maintain two homes, 12:28 we maintain one home in Keene Texas. 12:30 And so, yes I went through our schools. 12:33 And, yes, I sat on the back row. 12:36 Yes, I did sleep through those things. 12:38 Back then it really wasn't so much about relationships, 12:41 it was about rules. 12:43 And I don't know, 12:45 I guess everybody has a stubborn side to them. 12:48 It wasn't intentional, you know, I've probably, 12:52 I would guess 12:54 there's just probably hasn't been a day in my life 12:55 that I haven't prayed, prayed earnestly. 12:58 So even as the times 13:00 that I were really wasn't that active in the church. 13:01 In fact I wasn't involved in the church, for no reason, 13:04 I don't even, I've studied this and studied this. 13:07 And I have no idea how you involve in a way, 13:09 but Satan works 13:11 in mysterious ways too, you know. 13:13 And so I've always been there, 13:16 I just didn't know what I was there for. 13:21 I think it's Luke 15, 13:22 you know, the different parables, 13:24 and one is the lost coin. 13:26 And we can be lost in the house at the sermon 13:29 that have about being lost in the house. 13:32 And so we can go through the motions 13:34 and we can think that we are still Adventist. 13:38 But we're lost 13:40 because we're not following Jesus, 13:42 we're just following some of the rules. 13:44 Oh, when I first met him, 13:45 he wasn't going to church and I told him, 13:49 if you, I'm not gonna date you if you don't go to church. 13:51 So he started going to church with me. 13:53 And it was a Sunday keeping church. 13:55 And I never knew because when we first married, 13:58 those first few years 14:00 he was coming to church with me, 14:02 I didn't know that he felt uncomfortable 14:04 because I didn't know he was an Adventist. 14:07 So you never talked about it? 14:08 Oh, no, no 'cause he'd been out of the church 14:10 for a number of years. 14:12 And I remember one day asking him, 14:14 what do Adventists believe. 14:16 Well, I think I slept through all of that. 14:18 So we went to, it was a school reunion. 14:25 And this is how the devil works. 14:28 I asked somebody that he knew from school, 14:31 what do Adventist believe. 14:32 You know what answer I got, and with this kind of force, 14:36 we believe you must go 14:37 to church on Saturday, the Sabbath. 14:39 We believe you can't eat pork and shrimp. 14:41 We believe in our prophet Ellen White. 14:43 And I said, "Oh, I believe in the gift of prophecy. 14:46 Does she follow the Bible?" 14:48 You know, what he said, "Oh, no, she's got so much 14:50 more to say than the Bible has to say." 14:53 Like this, I would have nothing 14:56 to do with Adventists. 14:59 Oh, with that answer I can... 15:00 But the thing about, these are good guys. 15:03 We just grew up in a time you know whenever... 15:06 It's out there. 15:08 And I can't answer for them, 15:09 you know, but they are good friends of mine, 15:11 I mean, we were buddies, we grew up together. 15:13 But the long and the short of it is 15:14 I felt Adventism was a cult. 15:17 And so, I remember we married in '87 15:21 and we lived in Dallas, 15:22 he was going to church with me at a Sunday keeping church. 15:26 We were going to church, I didn't realize 15:28 what that he was going through this turmoil 15:31 because it wasn't on the Sabbath. 15:33 And then when we moved from Dallas to Houston 15:36 and then we moved back to his hometown of Coleman. 15:38 And when we were in Coleman, 15:40 the local Adventist church bought the downlink. 15:44 And you know what? Downlink television. 15:46 A downlink television station... 15:49 Yeah, Trinity Broadcasting had it. 15:52 And so what happened was, all of a sudden, 15:55 now there's only two programs on TB and that I liked. 15:58 And that was Charles Stanley and Jack Hayford, 16:01 good Bible teachers. 16:02 I didn't like the music, 16:04 I didn't like anything else about that. 16:06 But all of a sudden 3ABN is on this network. 16:10 And I would tell him, "Hey, do not watch it." 16:14 If I'd catch him, one time he was watching Dwight. 16:19 And I came downstairs, I said, "You turn that off." 16:22 Those are cults, 16:23 those are cults, you turn that off, 16:24 I don't want that in my house. 16:26 Would not watch 3ABN. Shame on you, Shelley. 16:30 But I was just thinking. 16:32 And what caught my attention 16:34 was that I... 16:38 Is there anybody out there I knew. 16:40 I mean, I totally missed out. 16:42 And so... 16:44 He was sneaking and watching it. 16:45 Yeah, I was just trying to see if there's anybody that I knew. 16:48 And, of course, over the years and everything 16:51 so many things are going 16:52 but didn't know anybody that I really knew, and... 16:56 But let me, let me get this part in 16:58 'cause I have to say as I said it's been 10 years 17:01 since I've given my testimony. 17:02 And I actually sat down, 17:04 I've never done this before 17:05 'cause I thought, well I want to remember the dates. 17:07 And I put down the years and how God led. 17:10 It is so amazing how God got us here. 17:13 And I think you begin to take things for granted 17:17 when you're in a good rhythm, you know what I'm saying. 17:20 In 1995, I... 17:22 Wait, wait before you, 17:23 before you go to how you got here, 17:27 I'm still not, how did. 17:30 Are you gonna, 17:31 are you going to tell us how you, he came back in? 17:34 Yeah. Okay. All right, go ahead. 17:35 I'll get it started. Let him finish it. 17:37 But anyway, in 1995, we were living in Houston. 17:40 And JD sold his business 17:42 and he went to work with his brother. 17:44 I mean, he went to go help him for a couple of weeks 17:46 and he ended up working there. 17:48 And he called me and said, 17:49 "Honey, we're going to move to Coleman." 17:50 Well, I had vertigo. 17:52 And I mean a bad case of vertigo. 17:55 It was 24/7 I was spinning like a top. 17:58 I'd been to all the doctors 17:59 that treated the NASA astronauts 18:02 and everything. 18:04 And the only thing they came to the conclusion 18:05 is they would have to clip the nerves to my ears 18:09 and I would be deaf. 18:10 And I said, "No, I'm not ready to go there yet." 18:12 But anyway, so I packed up the house, 18:15 we moved to Coleman. 18:18 And I was ended up... 18:21 The tornado had just hit the farm. 18:23 So I ended up living on the farm with his parents. 18:26 And to help them, 18:29 but I thought it was gonna be a two week stay, 18:31 I was there year and a half 18:32 because my mother-in-law 18:34 was diagnosed with colon cancer. 18:36 My father-in-law was in early Alzheimer's. 18:38 And then we had a 15 year old niece, 18:41 his brother's daughter that we're also taking care of. 18:43 And they, these guys were traveling all the time. 18:46 So here I've got this vertigo. 18:48 And long, so I can't go into that story, 18:51 it's such a fascinating story. 18:53 But God reached down to me at eight months into this. 18:57 And he spoke to me one day 18:59 'cause honestly when you're that sick, 19:02 I wasn't praying very much, 19:03 I couldn't read, you couldn't focus. 19:06 And it was all I could do just to function every day 19:08 and take care of everyone. 19:10 So God impressed upon my heart one day, My Word is... 19:15 He said, "I set before you life and death. 19:17 My Word is life, do you choose life?" 19:19 And He impressed me to get in the scriptures 19:22 and find the promises and praying back to Him. 19:27 I did this for two weeks. 19:28 Healing promises, no faith, no faith came. 19:31 And it was like, 19:32 "Lord, do You really tell me to do this?" 19:34 Just kind of going through the motions. 19:36 It was just hard to look up the scriptures. 19:39 But then the day that I'm saying, 19:42 "Did You call me to do this?" 19:43 He led me to three scriptures, Isaiah 55:11, 19:47 that where he says, 19:48 "My word will not return to void 19:51 but accomplish every purpose for which I send it." 19:54 Jeremiah 1:12, where He says, 19:57 "You've seen correctly, 19:58 I am active and alert watching over My Word to perform it." 20:02 And Romans 4:17, it says that, 20:04 "God is the God who gives life to the dead 20:06 and calls things 20:08 that are not as though they already were." 20:10 All of a sudden faith came. 20:12 I realized by me claiming God's promises 20:15 and praying Him back then, speaking them over my life 20:18 that what was happening was I was doing what God did, 20:23 calling things that were not as though they already were. 20:26 Returning God's Word to Him and He was going to perform it. 20:29 And four months later, I was healed. 20:33 He healed me, I mean, and so it was all weird though. 20:37 Then what happened is 20:39 I was so excited about this '96 that I sat down 20:43 and I wrote this little book called 20:44 Life Affirmations from Scripture. 20:46 It was just like a chapter to introduce why 20:49 but it was mostly affirmations. 20:51 And I passed, I printed off a couple of hundred 20:54 and I just give them out to people, strangers. 20:58 So in '97 21:02 I was contacted by someone in Houston, 21:05 hired as a consultant 21:06 because my background had been in IT, 21:10 in corporate development. 21:13 And I'd had a corporate life 21:15 all those years till we moved to Coleman. 21:18 And I was contacted, somebody wanted me to come work 21:22 as a consultant for a new business. 21:24 It went into a full-time job. 21:26 And when I say full-time, I mean, full-time. 21:29 Here I spend this year so close to the Lord. 21:33 And teaching people about, you know, speaking His Word. 21:37 Now all of a sudden, I'm in a job 21:40 where I am traveling 26 to 27 days 21:44 out of the week, doing... 21:45 Month. Month. 21:47 Well, yeah, I get, 21:48 it felt like out of the, out of the month. 21:50 And what happened was, I... 21:55 We always did these symposiums on the weekend. 21:57 So I didn't get to go to church. 22:00 And I would wrestle with that with God for a while. 22:03 And then I remember one night, you know. 22:05 As though it was God's fault, but anyway go ahead. 22:07 Yeah, it's like, I mean, I'm saying, 22:10 "Oh, Lord, we need the money, 22:12 this is good money, we need the money." 22:14 And it's just for a little time, 22:17 I was making... 22:19 It's amazing how we can rationalize the things 22:21 we want to do. 22:23 You know, we can make it seem as though. 22:25 Well, God you know, you know my heart. 22:27 Yes, exactly. This is a gift from you. 22:30 Yeah. Yeah. 22:32 'Cause we thought it was a gift from Him. 22:34 But in '99 this company went kaputs, 22:37 I mean, they had a trajectory they came out of, 22:40 we had a great marketing campaign, 22:44 came out of the gate just went straight up 22:47 but they made several million in their first year 22:50 but they spent a million more. 22:53 And the same thing the second year, 22:55 so they weren't watching things. 22:57 And they went kaput 22:58 and we've been working with CPA's in this company. 23:02 Well, all of a sudden we've got about 100 CPA's 23:06 around the United States 23:09 who are saying if you will do the same business 23:12 development seminar that you did for this company, 23:15 for our clients, 23:17 we'll guarantee you that will have 100 clients. 23:21 I mean, if you contract to come to our city 100 clients 23:24 you can charge them $1,000 for two days seminar. 23:29 What's a hundred times a thousand? 23:31 100,000. 23:32 You know, by the time you took out everything else, 23:34 we were still looking 23:35 at maybe making 50,000 a weekend. 23:39 And we had them lined up everywhere. 23:41 So he's working in the panhandle. 23:45 And I am, I mean we had incorporated, 23:48 we had bought a full wall sized screen. 23:52 I'm working on 23:53 all of these business development seminars. 23:56 And back then it was all PowerPoint type stuff, 23:58 we didn't have the other. 24:00 And I am feeling lost and lonely 24:03 and needing to get closer to God. 24:05 So I'm praying and I ask God, 24:07 you know, how is it that I can be so close to you 24:09 that I feel Your heart breathe 24:11 and end up in this backslidden condition. 24:13 Well, it's easy, if you're not going to church 24:15 and you're not, you know. 24:17 And so God taught me 24:21 how to press into His presence in prayer. 24:25 And He taught me to seek His face 24:27 and listen for the still small voice. 24:30 And now all of a sudden, 24:33 he's traveling and I'm calling him and say, 24:36 "Oh, God told me, blah, blah, blah. 24:38 God said this, God." 24:40 And one day he said to me, 24:42 "Honey, please don't tell anybody else 24:45 you think that God's talking to you 24:46 because they're gonna think you're crazy." 24:49 And he said, "Why don't I hear from God." 24:53 You know what I asked him? Do you listen? 24:57 'Cause he prayed all the time. 24:58 Do you remember the first time 25:00 you listened what God said to you 25:01 about the potter and the... 25:02 Tell them that story 'cause this was... 25:04 Well, what was important in my life 25:05 'cause I was wandering 25:07 and Shelley was always a spiritual leader. 25:09 That's one thing that attracted me to her. 25:12 And we really weren't church going people. 25:15 But I knew that there was something special 25:17 about Shelley because she loved Jesus. 25:19 And I had evolved so far from Jesus. 25:23 And if you're a... 25:27 Boy, this is getting really naked now. 25:29 But if you were raised an Adventist, 25:31 you always wonder 25:33 what's on the other side of the mountain 25:34 because that's where everybody is. 25:37 And so some place deep within me 25:39 and I played sports everywhere, I was gifted as an athlete. 25:42 So I had to battle all this stuff all the time, 25:45 juggling all these balls. 25:46 But then I met Shelley and it was very important, 25:49 it's kind of like, 25:50 I'm JD Quinn, I'm Shelley Quinn, 25:52 if you don't go to church, I'm not interested. 25:54 So that kind of put things in perspective real, real, 25:57 real quick and you had to make a decision. 26:00 Are you worth going to church for? 26:03 And so, you know I made a quick decision 26:06 but I think so because really that's what I'm starving for 26:10 and I pray daily. 26:12 What did I pray for? I have no idea. 26:14 I just knew that there's roadblocks 26:17 all day long in all of our lives, 26:19 and I just prayed. 26:20 And I know that He heard me, 26:22 but I'm still trying to figure out 26:24 what's going on here. 26:26 So it became evident 26:27 that Shelley became my hero and our spiritual leader. 26:31 Don't ever think in any of your home 26:34 that the wife can't be the spiritual leader. 26:36 That's all it's keeping a lot of families together 26:38 is the wife is the spiritual leader. 26:41 Shelly was the spiritual leader of our church. 26:45 Then I hung on our home. 26:47 And I hung just on every word 26:49 but I've got to do my own thing too. 26:52 So it's all very complicated. 26:54 But I wanted 26:57 what Shelly had probably 27:00 without paying my dues. 27:03 Boy, that's easy to do. 27:04 I want it, you got it, 27:06 hey, why are you so much better than me 27:08 and He listens to you, but He doesn't hear me. 27:10 I mean, you're just juggling balls 27:12 all the time 27:13 but she had a relationship, I could spell relationship 27:18 but I didn't know whether I wanted to commit 27:21 because I think down deep inside 27:24 I was a commitment forbid 27:25 not just with relationships but in life itself. 27:29 So you had to break through that. 27:33 And so we did go to church all the time. 27:38 And, oh, but wait a minute here, 27:42 even as I was sleeping in class, 27:45 Jim Gilley was in our... 27:47 And he was couple of years older. 27:49 I mean he became pastor, 27:52 was he paying attention I wasn't. 27:54 I mean, do you see what I'm saying. 27:56 I mean, it's just kind of like, it's not making sense here. 28:00 And so, anyway as I am listening 28:04 and I keep asking Shelley, 28:06 "How do I get that?" 28:10 And bless her heart, she was just as straight 28:12 because we would be driving places, 28:14 never think she's gonna minister, 28:16 I'm going to carry luggage, I'm not involved, 28:18 you know, I want to be involved. 28:20 But yet I know that I'm not qualified. 28:23 But you had to surrender, honey. 28:26 But you just jumped ahead just a little bit, 28:28 let me back up 28:30 because before we started ministering 28:31 what happened is, 28:33 here we've got this whole corporation set up. 28:36 And we're looking at big bucks, right? 28:39 Yeah. 28:40 And I am though just empty inside, seeking God. 28:46 And He taught me 28:48 how to present to His presence or really seek His face. 28:52 But He taught me to listen for the still small voice. 28:55 You know where God impresses His thoughts upon your mind. 28:58 And by the way, 28:59 some people have criticized me for saying that. 29:01 And Sister White says it is well, 29:03 you know, but here's the point. 29:05 As I am now pressing into the presence of the Lord, 29:09 it was hardly any time at all, just within a few weeks. 29:13 I knew God was calling me to full-time ministry. 29:16 And so he's still working with his brother. 29:19 And it was in the year it was '99 29:23 'cause we were trying to get ready for Y2K. 29:28 And it was in December and I went to visit him 29:32 the last couple of days of December up there 29:34 where they were working. 29:36 And I just remember this, 29:39 we had to stay at a little motel, 29:41 it was an inn run by some Indians very... 29:44 I mean, it's the only thing we could find. 29:46 And it was so funny 29:47 because it was just a dinky little hotel, 29:53 had a TV up on the wall, 29:56 no remote control 29:57 or he's got the attention of a hummingbird, 30:00 the attention span of a hummingbird 30:01 when it comes to TV. 30:02 So here I'm thinking, I'm all prepared for Y2K. 30:06 And we'd lay down on the bed, be watching, he say, 30:08 "Well, honey, change the channel, 30:09 I'm jumping to change it." 30:10 "Honey, change the channel." 30:12 So I was up and down about 15 times in 30 minutes. 30:15 And I looked at him and I said, 30:17 "I'm not ready for Y2K 30:18 'cause I can't even stand being without a remote." 30:21 But anyway... 30:22 But we had plenty of water 30:24 and plenty of everything stacked up like everybody else 30:26 which you know just in case like this. 30:28 So what happened was when I was praying 30:32 and God was impressing me, 30:34 He was calling me into full-time ministry. 30:37 He made it clear to me, it had to be His decision. 30:40 That it had to be JD's decision. 30:43 I didn't think that there was any way possible JD 30:46 was gonna let go of this new business. 30:48 I really didn't. 'Cause you had just started. 30:51 We were just getting ready to kick it off, 30:54 it was getting ready to launch in January. 30:56 And we had sacrificed a lot to get 30:59 to that particular point, you know. 31:01 And all we could talk about was that. 31:05 Yeah. That, that, you know. 31:07 Had nothing about going to church, 31:08 I mean, we're still going to church 31:10 every Sunday and everything, you know. 31:11 I mean, being good little Christians. 31:13 And, but still we're focusing on that. 31:17 And so, then I began to sense 31:20 that we didn't talk about that 24 hours a day. 31:24 We talked about that maybe 12 hours a day. 31:27 I mean, I'm exaggerating but... 31:29 So something was happening 31:31 but I was maintaining my posture 31:33 'cause we were really looking forward 31:35 to this new chapter in our life. 31:39 Yeah, it was December 31 31:42 and we were going down the road. 31:44 And this was 1999. 31:46 And he says to me, 31:48 "Honey, what's wrong with you?" 31:51 And I kind of answered 31:53 in that little singsong way and I said, "Oh..." 31:56 He said, "You don't seem as interested in this." 31:58 And I said, 31:59 "Oh, I'm still interested, you know kind of." 32:02 And he said, 32:03 "Shelley, if you could be doing anything in the world, 32:07 what would you want to be doing?" 32:09 And I said, "I wouldn't be out teaching people 32:10 how to be successful in business. 32:12 I'd be out teaching them 32:13 how to have a closer relationship 32:15 with the Lord." 32:16 And you know God had, 32:19 when God, I knew God was calling me. 32:21 And he said it had to be his decision. 32:23 I had asked for a sign. 32:25 So what happened was I'm thinking, 32:27 well, God's opening the door. 32:29 And I'm kind of taking it from an indirect approach. 32:33 And I said, "Honey, maybe it doesn't mean 32:35 that we have to do away." 32:37 I said, "When He said full-time, 32:38 maybe it's not full-time now. 32:39 Maybe we can do our seminars. 32:41 And then, you know, 32:42 that will actually support the ministry." 32:44 He looks at me as we're going down the road, 32:46 he said, "You do know what God is asking." 32:50 Because he had heard from God, 32:51 well, I have to get back to that story. 32:53 But he said, "You do know what God is asking." 32:55 And I said, "Yeah, I feel like it's full-time now." 32:57 Never in a million years did I think he, 33:00 'cause, you know he'd say, "I thought he was gonna say, 33:02 'We just spent all of this money 33:04 and all this time putting all of us together.'" 33:06 You know what he said? 33:08 "Who am I to argue with God?" Okay. 33:11 So I told him then, 33:12 I said and I asked for sign and God said, 33:15 "This time I'll give you one." 33:17 So He says, 33:18 "That's the problem with you, Christians." 33:19 It's not that he wasn't one that he said, 33:21 "That's the problem with you, Christians, 33:23 you are always asking for a sign." 33:25 He said, what's gonna happen if God doesn't give you a sign. 33:29 I thought, well, so let me just, 33:31 I want to take you 33:32 'cause our time is going so fast. 33:34 Let me just take you through a few things 33:35 and then you can jump in too. 33:37 So what happened the next day I drove, it was January 1. 33:40 I drove back home, that was on a Saturday. 33:43 On Sunday I spent a couple of hours praying 33:46 and the phone rings. 33:47 And it was a Christian Broadcasting Network 33:50 asking me to come meet, they had gotten 33:52 one of those little copies of the book I had put out. 33:55 You talk about a sign, 33:56 God didn't waste any time that was 24 hours later. 34:01 I went and then they ended up inviting me 34:04 again and again. 34:05 They offered me, I was there for eight months. 34:07 They offered me my own program. 34:10 And we were almost finished taping this program 34:14 and it was going to be on Exalting His Word. 34:17 You know what happened. 34:21 Someone called me into the office, 34:22 they wanted me to sign an agreement. 34:25 And this agreement was giving them all copyright 34:29 to everything. 34:30 And I said, "Well, I'll give you copyright 34:33 to your broadcast." 34:34 I said, "I'm not trying to..." 34:35 But I said, "I don't want 34:37 to give you copyright to the book or copy 34:38 'cause then I couldn't do it anywhere else." 34:41 Long story short, we ended up parting ways, 34:44 it was very painful after being 34:46 on the network for eight months, 34:47 it was very painful. 34:50 So now I come back 34:52 and I'm doing, God just opened up, 34:55 I was doing Bible studies, 34:57 weekly Bible studies in five different cities. 34:59 So Monday night I'd be here, Tuesday night I'd be there, 35:01 Wednesday night... 35:03 God is teaching me, Danny, 'cause JD said to me, 35:06 I mean, I asked the Lord. 35:08 I said, "Father, what do You want me to teach? 35:11 I don't want to go out and teach what You... 35:13 What I think is important. 35:14 Show me. 35:16 And JD said to me one day, 35:18 "What are you gonna tell my friends about the Sabbath?" 35:22 Out of nowhere because I mean, 35:25 we had been married I don't know how long. 35:27 Yep. Ten years, twelve years. 35:28 Probably Sabbath has never come up. 35:30 Or it may be longer than that, about 20... 35:31 Never... 35:32 You never told about the Sabbath. 35:34 Never. Never ever. 35:35 She's the spiritual leader. 35:37 Shelley knows the Bible backward and forward. 35:39 I knew where Genesis was. 35:43 I mean, I'm exaggerating, but you know what I'm saying, 35:45 she's the spiritual leader. 35:47 And I mean, and she normally was right. 35:50 So what made you say that this day? 35:52 Purely Holy Spirit, out of nowhere. 35:56 How are you gonna handle the Sabbath issue? 35:58 And Shelley, I mean, just bless her heart. 36:01 She left there, I'd be back in five minutes. 36:04 So guess what happens. 36:06 God started me on study of the sanctuary 36:11 is where He had started me. 36:13 And then, when I got to the point 36:15 where I realized that the book of the law 36:18 which is out of Deuteronomy, 36:20 it's the old covenant was placed on the, 36:23 in a side pocket at the ark. 36:26 But God's Ten Commandments were placed inside the ark, 36:30 written on the stone. 36:32 Man, that jumped off the page at me. 36:34 And I did a really deep study on the old covenant 36:36 and the new covenant. 36:38 I learned that the Ten Commandments 36:40 were still effective 36:43 and I came down to him one day, 36:45 he was home 36:47 'cause all this time he's traveling. 36:48 And I praise God 36:50 because I had all this time to study 36:51 but I told him, I said, 36:53 "Honey, I've been woefully wrong 36:55 about the Sabbath, woefully. 36:57 Well, it's interesting he brought it up 37:00 but he wasn't ready yet, 37:01 I started celebrating the Sabbath right away 37:04 not going to a church but he was kind of, 37:07 he wanted to watch a sports and... 37:09 You know. JD. 37:10 But let, I mean, to this day 37:13 I could cry like a baby right now. 37:15 Okay. 37:16 Because let's put this in true perspective. 37:21 My people have been Adventists all their life, 37:25 that doesn't mean, that just means 37:27 they had a label of Seventh-day Adventists. 37:31 There were some very dedicated, 37:33 there were some that were lukewarm. 37:35 And your mother became a Methodist again 37:36 or started attending them. 37:38 And so here Shelley comes down. And we... 37:42 Second floor she came down from the office and she says, 37:44 "Well, have I've been wrong." 37:46 Now this is spiritual leader talking. 37:49 And I'm... And what do you mean. 37:51 She says, "The Sabbath 37:54 is the seventh day of the week." 37:59 Wow. 38:01 What an aha-aha moment in my life 38:04 because then all of a sudden the spiritual leader 38:08 of our family came down and told me 38:12 what I should have known generations ago. 38:15 Okay. Totally missed it. 38:18 And it was kind of like, wow, and I remember, 38:23 I was sitting in my lazy boy chair 38:26 and just inside my heart was, 38:29 I didn't know whether to jump up 38:30 and say hurray or just cry. 38:35 Because then all of a sudden you fool you. 38:40 Now number one, I'm given her too much credit. 38:43 Myself not enough credit 'cause if I wasn't a fool, 38:47 I'd be studying myself. 38:49 But that really is not who I was... 38:52 At that time. 38:53 At that time. All right. 38:55 So let me, 'cause our time is running out. 38:56 This gets really good. 38:58 How did, I don't know with the story, 39:02 had you let go of the corporate? 39:04 Yes. 39:05 Yes, I'm in full-time ministry 39:06 and it was really hurting our budget. 39:11 It really was hurting our budget. 39:13 So here I am, 39:14 this is still the year 2000 in full-time ministry. 39:17 And all of a sudden one day as I'm praying, 39:20 guess what the Lord impresses upon me. 39:22 I will join you to one who is following, 39:28 running fast after me. 39:30 And you and JD will work shoulder to shoulder, 39:33 I wasn't the least bit excited about that. 39:38 I remember sitting there and saying, 39:39 "Lord, I thought you called me to full-time ministry. 39:41 You're gonna join me to somebody else's ministry?" 39:44 It took me a little while and I thought, okay, 39:47 if this is what the Lord says it's gonna be what's best. 39:50 We're now in 2001. 39:54 In March, He impressed upon me, 39:57 He was gonna open the doors for television, 40:00 radio and publishing 40:01 and I would speak into all the world. 40:03 Now that's 2001. 40:05 Then in September, I was out teaching 40:09 at these five little different church, 40:12 the home churches is what they called them. 40:14 Had you become an Adventist by this time? 40:15 Oh, no. 40:17 No, no, no, I'm a Sabbath celebrator though. 40:18 Sabbath keeper. Okay. 40:20 No, I'm still thinking Adventist are a cult. 40:23 She's thinking and she is the only one 40:24 who keeps Saturday. 40:26 She is, I mean, she is... 40:27 Well, no, and God was teaching me the truth 40:29 about the state of the dead, 40:30 He was teaching me the truth about hell. 40:32 And all of these things just one on one. 40:35 And I do think 40:36 that why doesn't anybody teach this stuff. 40:39 So here I am, in September 40:42 I was teaching, 40:45 I had been doing a teaching on grace, 40:47 that even obedience was by grace 40:50 because it's God who works in us to will 40:51 and to do His good pleasure. 40:53 I came home, this is September of 2001, 40:57 I'm flipping through the channels, 40:58 he's out of town, 40:59 it was like 11:30 at night by the time 41:01 I'd finished that and visited with everybody and come back. 41:04 I am flipping through the channels 41:06 and just as it hits 3ABN, Kenneth Cox says, 41:11 "I don't know what everybody's problem 41:13 is with obedience, it's all by faith anyway." 41:17 And it was just, I thought, 41:19 "Well, that sounds like I'm teaching obedience 41:21 by grace through faith." 41:22 So I listened, the next day I tuned in on purpose. 41:26 And here I had asked his friend that was so misguided, 41:30 "What do Adventists feel about righteousness by faith?" 41:32 And this guy was like, "What do you mean?" 41:35 And so, I tuned in and this preacher 41:38 I think it was probably Doug, he used a lot of, 41:41 you know, he was talking about righteousness by faith. 41:45 And you know what I thought, 41:46 well, it must be not everybody on there is Adventist. 41:51 You know like TV and it has all these different ones. 41:54 So now I start watching 3ABN. 41:57 And you know what I'm finding out. 41:59 Everything that God teaches me 42:01 is being taught on this network. 42:04 The one thing though that I was begging God for. 42:08 See I grew up, in the church I grew up, 42:10 you couldn't read Revelation, it was prohibited. 42:13 You know and I think, I've read and that says, 42:15 it says, "Blessed if you are if you read it." 42:17 So I'm reading this. 42:19 I am begging God to explain Revelation to me. 42:23 How do you figure out all of these symbols? 42:25 And I had every book there was on prophecy. 42:28 I mean, you name the author, I had the books. 42:31 Nobody agreed, all these Sunday keeping people, 42:34 nobody agreed. 42:35 So I flipped it on and it was Steve Wohlberg 42:39 was doing the Antichrist Chronicles. 42:42 And all of a sudden I realized, okay, 42:46 it's Daniel is the key to unlock 42:49 and everything from the Old Testament 42:50 is what unlocks Revelation. 42:52 So now I am really excited 42:54 'cause I'm finding out there's a church 42:56 that believes what I believe, what God's teaching me. 42:59 But also they've got the truth on the Sabbath. 43:01 So what did I do? 43:03 I drain my measly little $700 out of my ministry account. 43:07 Send it to 3ABN with a letter saying, 43:10 "Pray for me. 43:12 I think the Lord may be leading me 43:13 to join the Seventh-day Adventist church." 43:15 They published the letter, 43:17 you know, how you do the big letters. 43:19 The local Adventist pastor, 43:21 well, he was 30 miles away in Brownwood. 43:23 The Adventist pastor calls 3ABN and says, 43:27 "Hey, I need to get 43:29 this lady's contact information. 43:31 Well, you have a pretty strict privacy policy. 43:33 He had to, he said he had 43:35 to fax his pastoral credentials, 43:36 he had to prove who he was and say, 43:38 "Hey, she's saying she wants to join." 43:41 So the long and the short of it, 43:42 he comes to visit me. 43:44 And when he does, 43:45 I'm interviewing him to make sure 43:47 he talks like you all talk, right? 43:50 And I found him, 43:51 his name was Jim, Pastor Jim Graves, 43:53 very godly man. 43:54 So what happened then is that I began going 43:58 to church regularly in December. 44:01 And Pastor Graves says, 44:03 "What do you want to see for next year? 44:04 What program?" 44:06 I said, "Well, I really like for Steve Wohlberg to come." 44:08 He calls Wohlberg 44:09 and he calls me back and he says, 44:11 "He's booked out for a year, 44:12 no chance that he can be here in 2002 he said." 44:16 Well, guess what? 44:17 Steve got a cancellation, he came in February of 2002. 44:21 And so I'm just eating it up. 44:25 The pastor makes sure that Steve and his wife 44:28 and I are sitting at the same table. 44:31 And I didn't know this till much later 44:33 but Steve had gone to the pastor saying, 44:35 "You got to get this woman in the church." 44:37 And Pastor Graves, bless his heart, 44:39 such a godly man he said, 44:41 "Oh, no, the Lord has already told me hands off. 44:44 He's bringing her in." 44:45 And I'm gonna have to fast forward. 44:47 So what happens was, this is 2002, right? 44:52 I joined on June 1 of 2002, 44:56 I'm watching 3ABN Today program. 44:59 As I am getting ready to go teach Sabbath school 45:03 'cause we had, would have our path, 45:05 we had it out of order 45:06 because the pastor was going to different programs. 45:08 But he had me, I was teaching. 45:11 And as I am listening, I prayed Friday night, 45:15 "Lord, if you want me to join this church as many programs 45:20 as I've watched they've not talked about 45:21 the Holy Spirit." 45:23 And I said, "I've got to know 45:24 that if You want me to join this church, 45:26 I've got to know they believed in the baptism 45:28 and the Holy Spirit and being led by the spirit." 45:31 So I've got the TV on, 45:32 I'm getting ready for Sabbath school. 45:35 Guess what? 45:36 It's Denise Smith, you were interviewing him. 45:38 It was all on the baptism and the Holy Spirit. 45:40 And I was just like, 45:42 "Whoo-hoo, Lord, that's my answer." 45:44 And so June 8 of 2002, I joined the church. 45:48 Steve Wohlberg calls me, I went to work with him 45:52 and he was up in Dallas and I'd go up weekly 45:54 and work with his ministry. 45:56 He calls me and says, 45:58 "Will you man our booth at ASI?" 46:02 I said, "What's ASI?" 46:03 So he's telling me August of 2002, I go to ASI, 46:08 I am manning the booth, 46:09 you and I bump into each other in the hallway. 46:14 And I just, and I just tell you kind of a little bit 46:18 what I've just said, 46:19 you made sure Teresa Booth interviewed me, 46:21 but then you had me on live that night. 46:25 You know when you interview certain people. 46:27 And so what happened then is that, 46:31 that is when after that in October, 46:36 Dee Hildebrand called and said, 46:37 "Can you come do the New Year's Eve program?" 46:42 And I said, "Sure." 46:43 So this is 2002, December 31, 46:47 we drive in and there's snow on the ground. 46:50 And I tell to JD, "Honey, can you believe that..." 46:56 We came in the night before. 46:58 But I said, "Do you realize that God knew 47:00 from the beginning of time that on." 47:03 And he had it recorded in His heavenly record book 47:05 that we would be here on this day. 47:09 And he just says, "Wow, that's a happy thought." 47:11 So we did the interview. 47:13 Afterwards you all took me back and offered me a job. 47:17 And I was scheduled to do some Kids Time 47:20 'cause I met Brenda at the thing too. 47:24 And so I stayed two weeks and did the Kids Time 47:27 and I tried out every department. 47:29 And, Danny, I'll never forget I had such a sinking feeling, 47:32 I was supposed to meet with you at the end of the two weeks. 47:35 And my heart was here 47:37 but I didn't feel like God had released me 47:39 from this call to Word ministry. 47:41 So you call me into your office and said, 47:44 "Well, what do you think?" 47:45 And I said, "Danny, 47:46 I just can't come to a decision." 47:48 I said, before I even got out of my struggle, 47:51 you said, "Shelley, we all want you here." 47:53 But he said, 47:54 "You said God's given you a special message 47:56 and He's impressed upon my heart 47:58 that I can't interrupt His call on your life. 48:01 So I think instead of being, 48:02 joining administration you're gonna be a programmer." 48:05 And sure enough 48:06 then that is I did Exalting His Word. 48:10 And had 17 days to write that book. 48:14 And then we came into that program, 48:16 then I began volunteering here for the next 18 months or so. 48:21 And we did Up Closes together, I was on some Lives with you. 48:25 And then, I mean, our hearts were here, 48:28 this is, that's all I talked about 48:30 was 3ABN and the ministry here. 48:32 So we got the call in December 48:35 of 2004 offering us both the job. 48:38 And we came here in January of 2005. 48:42 Praise the Lord. Wow. 48:43 Great testimony. And JD. Yes, sir. 48:45 Came around and now, 48:47 JD Quinn is our pastoral director 48:51 of pastoral ministry. 48:53 Yes, yes. 48:55 From all of that he missed, look how much he's soaked in, 48:58 now, he's helping people around the world and Shelley, 49:00 of course, is program development 49:02 but she wears numerous hats. 49:04 So we're so thankful that you all came. 49:07 You know, and it just goes to prove again 49:09 that God is supernatural. 49:11 That He is the one that's moving the parts 49:14 that it used to, it used to really amaze me 49:18 that I would get a certain call 49:19 from a certain person that I was supposed to, 49:23 how does God do that, 49:24 how come he didn't get that call, he didn't. 49:26 It's because God is in charge. That's right. 49:29 So please allow God to be in charge of your lives, 49:33 submit to Him, you know. 49:35 I mean, I could write the book on surrender today. 49:37 And I ask a thousand times, "Shelley, what do I do?" 49:40 And she keeps saying, 49:42 "JD, you just have to surrender." 49:44 Well, I confuse surrendering with consent, 49:48 surrender to me mean give up. 49:50 And I just, that wasn't part of who I was. 49:53 But I certainly understand giving consent. 49:57 You know, I love being in harmony 49:59 with someone else. 50:01 And let me say something, God told me 50:02 that He was gonna do a quick work in JD. 50:05 And I watched it, before we came here, 50:09 he really started studying in the Word. 50:11 But I watched him 50:12 in those first six months, he just... 50:15 Because he was praying God's Word over people, 50:17 that's all he does now. 50:19 He never reads anything 50:20 but the Bible or biblical material. 50:23 And he has, he is such a godly man, 50:26 I'm so blessed to be married. 50:28 And he's now 50:29 the spiritual leader in our home. 50:31 Now we're thankful that you both are here. 50:33 And from the very first moment I met you at ASI, 50:37 I knew the Lord 50:39 was gonna have you here to ministry, 50:41 didn't know how exactly that would work. 50:43 And so, that's when we developed relationship 50:46 and ask you to come and do things. 50:48 I told Dee, we need to get this lady and see what, 50:51 you know, just something about it, 50:53 you know, when you see it. 50:55 And I had no idea that the Lord was saying, 50:56 you would hook up with other ministry 50:58 but yet in my heart 51:00 I knew that you all would be here. 51:02 What a blessing 51:03 that you have been for so many years, 51:04 both of you. 51:06 And only eternity will be able to tell 51:08 when you're in heaven, for eternity the people 51:11 that will come up and say thank you, Shelley, 51:13 thank you, JD. 51:14 'Cause JD talks with people, 51:16 prays with people around the world. 51:17 Yes, you two wrote a book that has really impacted. 51:22 It has been so impactful. Tell us a little bit? 51:25 Ten Commandments, Twice Removed. 51:27 You don't have it, you will give you a copy free. 51:30 And so we did that in 2004. 51:33 And it's, I think, 51:35 11 million now has been printed. 51:37 I don't know how many, 51:39 do you get that, it's now in Chinese. 51:40 We had that in so many languages. 51:42 I know, and we've seen so many, so many people 51:45 that have really joined the church and accepted Jesus. 51:48 And joined the church because of that book. 51:50 If you don't have yours, just tell him, 51:52 Danny and Shelly said, we'd give one, 51:54 you can write to or send to 3ABN or call us. 51:57 I cannot believe that our time is just about all gone. 51:59 What we're gonna do 52:00 is we're gonna go to a news break 52:01 and then we're gonna come back for a closing thought. |
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